Habs call up Tinordi from Bulldogs

Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin announced on Thursday morning that the club has called up defenceman Jarred Tinordi from the AHL’s Hamilton Bulldogs.

Tinordi, a 21-year-old who was selected by the Canadiens in the first round (22nd overall) at the 2010 NHL entry draft, played 55 games with the Bulldogs this season, posting 2-9-11 totals to go along with 51 penalty minutes. The 6-foot-6, 218-pounder will add size to the Canadiens’ blue line while wearing No. 42.

After beating the Ottawa Senators 4-3 in a shootout Wednesday night at the Bell Centre, the Canadiens announced that Greg Pateryn was being returned to the Bulldogs. Pateryn played three games with the Canadiens after being recalled from Hamilton on March 7.

The Canadiens were given the day off Thursday and will be back on the ice Friday at 11 a.m. in Brossard as they prepare to visit the New Jersey Devils Saturday night.

(Photo by Harry How/Getty Images)

Tinordi’s turn for blue-line audition, by Pat Hickey

Eller salvages shootout win over Senators, by Pat Hickey

Eller is bigger, stronger and faster this season, by Brenda Branswell

One of Eller’s best efforts as a Hab, by Dave Stubbs

In the Room: “Eller was phenomenal”, by Pat Hickey

Whirlwind two weeks has Ryder on fire, by The Canadian Press

Habs vs. Senators photo gallery

Habs odds of winning 25th Stanley Cup much improved, by Stu Cowan

Rookie Pateryn keeps things simple, by Pat Hickey

Canadiens prospect Bennett growing at University of Michigan, by Pat Hickey

New Bulldogs goalie Tokarski has winning history, by Kevin Mio

Geoffrion considering retirement after serious injury, by Brenda Branswell

The shootout move heard ’round the hockey world, by Stu Cowan




  1. John Frodo says:

    The reason the 2012-2013 Habs are successful.

  2. Hobie Hansen says:

    Desharnais fully deserves what he got. He’s been giving everything he’s got the past year or so to this team with some pretty impressive results.

  3. YoNiko says:

    3.5m per ?

    Thats an awesome number. If you take DD and his contract and compare him to the 25 highest paiod centers in the league. Points vs $$ you would be very surprised. Now does that mean he will finish that contract in MTL? Maybe… Maybe not… but as a business decision and a CAP situation… amazing work by MB

  4. Habfan29 says:

    If we give DD $3.5 for 4 years, what is going to cost us for PK next year? I hope DD contract does not have a NMC or NTC. I would have given him $10 million over 4 like Brandon Prust received, Prust has meant more to this team in a short period of time than DD.

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      It´ll be very, very hard to sign Subban for less than 7m a year.

      • Luke says:

        Regardless of what any one else is getting paid.

        PK looks to be setting the terms of his future negotiations all on his own.

      • Habfan29 says:

        yes I say 6 years 7m

      • RetroMikey says:

        Subban knows he is the “Michael Jordan” of hockey.
        There will be many endorsements given to him also from our neighbours south of the border and many fans following him.
        Who knows, a movie actor part time for PK as well.
        He won’t be here after his contract expires.
        His loyalty is to George Washington and anything green in colour and not the CH for many years to come.
        Does he deserve the big bucks? I say yes but does he have loyalty to stay in Montreal? I say no.
        Loyalty is not in the dictionary anymore for todays’s athletes except a mere few.

        “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Apples and oranges. Prust gets paid on the high side of what a good fourth-liner can normally get, and that’s because he was a UFA and good with his dukes. Even so, he’s outplaying his contract so far.

      David Desharnais on the other hand is getting paid as a point-producing centreman who can play on the first and second line, on the power-play and the shootout. He’s rewarded for his unceasing effort and dedication, and his attitude on and off the ice. So his wage scale is going to be much higher that Brandon’s.

      If P.K. continues on his trajectory, he’s going to get paid a lot of money for a lot of years, and he will be worth it. No issues there either.

  5. Luke says:

    DD’s Contract.

    Similar point totals to Grabovski. (expect 50-60ish)
    Similar stature to Grabovski. (teeny tiny)
    Similar work ethic to Grabovski. (tireless)
    (Oh, I mean The New Grabovski… not the Montreal, first 2 years in TO Grabovski).
    Similar term to Grabovski. (1 year less I think)
    Dissimilar compensation to Grabovski. ($2mm/season less I think)

    Solid deal. One that could be moved if necessary, but won’t handcuff a team if retained.

    MB, good job. You may have an extra 1/2 hour for lunch.

    (Still not keen on the Habs mix at centre. It’ll be curious to see which of Eller and Galch play the wing primarily).

    • HabinBurlington says:

      He is struggling to maintain that scoring pace this year. He and Kulemin are both really struggling to show they are worth their contracts.

      • Luke says:

        Thats why the -2mm is nice.

        Grabbo at 5mm+ (Is that even right, i’m a bit to sober to remember hockey contracts) is a stretch, but he’s a solid player and while his offense is sub-par this year, the rest of his game is decent.
        Kulemin? Looks like he scored 30 by accident…

  6. jols101 says:

    3.5 million for 4 years is a good deal for everyone. At least Bergevin didn’t overpay and it is a very movable contract if they decide to do that down the road. I am not even one of DD’s many cheerleaders on this site and I still think it is a fair deal.

  7. habs-fan-84 says:

    I don’t understand what the problem is?

    3.5M is VERY digestible!

    Why does everyone get so concerned with term? At 3.5 per the contract is MOVEABLE (if need be).

    Look what happened with Cole. Everyone was concerned PG gave him too much and too long a term…did it really matter? He was simply traded.

    Term has to be one of the biggest red herrings out there.

    • krob1000 says:

      Term can be very, very bad…in this case a term that ends with a guy still in his productive years at a reasonable rate …it is a non issue. Montreal always has to overpay…in this case they did not have to…DD probably deserved Grabovski money anyways especially in Montreal…I wouldn’t have wanted to give it to him…but if you look at it that he got basically 3 years of deserved money spread out over 4…with flexibility re the cap, a moveable contract, a wealth of talent up the middle, he wanting to be in montreal…it all makes sense…

      • HabinBurlington says:

        The Grabovski contract is precisely the one I had in mind when thinking this deal is quite digestible. The Leafs probably would like to be shopping him right now, but his contract is making any move very difficult.

        • krob1000 says:

          I like MB’s line of thinking…he understands the importance of depth up the middle…only thing that ruins this for me is if he moves Eller

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I can’t see why he would move Eller. Perhaps in two years time he maximizes value for Plex? I am not speculating a move to trade Plex, but I could see that happening.

    • knob says:

      I guess as long as Bob Gainey is working, or the Goat for that matter, no contract is untradeable! smh

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      DD now is only the team´s third best centre with Galchenyuk still playing on the wing. Once DD drops to the third line without having our best LW on his line or is moved to the wing his production might drop significantly and it´ll be hard to deal him. That´s why 2 years, 3 years max would have been much, much better.

  8. GrosBill says:

    Good morning folks,

    So DD has signed 4 year, 3.5 million per. Look forward to reading your thoughts on it today. I like DD, he has earned an NHL contract no doubt. Do I think he is a first line center; NO! But that contract is not a first line center contract. So at that price, is it a good deal for DD and are we happy to have him as second third line center for that contract?

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      It looks like there will not be a first line center (in the true sense) on this team in the short term. Balanced scoring across three lines will be the theme.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Newf_Habster says:

      IMHO it is bit too much. Between 2.5M and 3.0M per year would be more reasonable. I hope it does not include NTC or NMC.

    • krob1000 says:

      as a team that does not have to pay its first line center 7 million plus…yup ..i am content….2 years more than ideal but ideal never happens and he isn’t old so it isn’t like those last two years he won’t be productive..worst case scenario he gets outplayed out of his position..what a terrbile position to be in

      • GrosBill says:

        I agree, I was expecting a 2 year deal max. Also agree that we are rolling three lines pretty evenly atm mostly depending on which line is hot on any given day as to which sees more ice time. I figured he would be signed to a term that reflects how far Chucky is away from playing center.

  9. krob1000 says:

    3.5 is the right money…the term is a little more than I expected but not outrageous. The reason he got more than PK…as some will question is more of an age vs years of service with club thing. DD is in more of his “prime”as this conract takes him well throught the magic 27 age and is being rewarded accordingly…add in the Motnreal surcharge for taxes…then that DD was probably eager to stay…all in all…reaosnable signing at that rate. Remember Dd has many guys he feeds puck to who are NOT in their primes yet…his numbers should not decrease any time soon other than this year natural decline given Eller’s expanded role and a functional 4th line

    • HabinBurlington says:

      If he continues to put up the points he has (no reason to believe he won’t) and we find ourselves with a glut of centers we can trade this contract. In my amateur opinion, there seems to be a threshold number of about 4 – 5 million where trading a player with that size contract becomes extremely difficult. While many of us may wish the term was 2-3 years, I think overall it appears to be a somewhat fair deal for the club. I would think DD is very happy with the deal.

  10. knob says:

    Why are they giving DD this kind of contract? In two years, maybe even next year, your centres ought to be:
    Line 1 – Plekanec
    Line 2 – Eller
    Line 3 – Gallchenyuk
    DD is not/should not be in the long term plans. You need a Francophone to appease the masses? Get a guy that can play on the wing, that will contribute to the success of the team!

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      100% this. The francophone thing has gone way too far. Desharnais could deserve around 3.5 M but the timing, the term, doesn’t make sense. The spoon-feeding of the best wingers every night is getting tired.


      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Steeltown, your disdain is showing. You’re verging on intolerance here. David Desharnais is a valuable asset who has signed a reasonable deal. Someone has mentioned the Mikhail Grabovski contract as a comparable, maybe you look at that and take comfort there.


        You were very spirited in your defence of P.K. against any slight, imagined or real, during his contract negotiations these last few months. Maybe you should examine your conduct when it comes to a dedicated player who has overcome great odds to become an important part of a winning team.

        • Steeltown Hab says:

          I was right about PK. Look at his performance he’s going to earn a lot more in 2 years than we could have had him at this off-season.

          Ya Grabovski is overpaid, Toronto also had no other Center options and were a bit at his mercy when making the deal. Plus I’d argue Grabovski is a much more complete center than Desharnais (can play in his own end, high end speed, etc).

          Just the term and timing make no sense. We have a logjam at Center clearly some decisions need to be made for the future, why not see what you have in a player before a 4 year commitment is all I’m saying the 3.5 per isn’t terrible it’s not a steal though.


          Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

        • RD says:

          Toronto is hardly considered a beacon for intelligent contracts. If I’m not mistaken, Darcy Tucker is still on their books.

      • mdp2011 says:

        Wow, what a stupid statement.

      • GrosBill says:

        Get a grip! I do not feel the deal was given because he was a Franco! He got it for playing well and exceeding expectations. DD bashing from Steel going a bit far?

        • Steeltown Hab says:

          He’s exceeded expectations this year?


          Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

          • GrosBill says:

            Talking about his time as a Hab in general, of course our expectations are different after last years season, hence the new deal. I do not however feel he has been awful this year either. The Franco twist of your post is what irks me the most.

          • RD says:

            I get your point. Last year, his first full year in the NHL, he was a 60 point center.
            This year, he’s on pace to be a 35-45 point center. He’s a bargain if he’s 60…kinda steep if we get 45 points.

    • krob1000 says:

      At 3.5….he will be moveable if need be, but if Pleks starts to decline in the future, if Galchenyuk ends up a winger,etc,etc. In a perfect world you sign him for 2 years but at that money it is not gonna make a difference. Between he and Pleks you are paying for one elite center….2 or 3 years from now…instead you get depth.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Not sure of Gally playing center in 2 years…Seguin, for example, is still on the wing. At worst, MB has him under contract so he can deal him easier if need be.

      BTW it is important to give their only French Canadian forward an opportunity.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Phil C says:

      Just because he is signed long term doesn’t mean he is in their long term plans. Muckler traded Hossa immediately after he signed him. A player under contract has more trade value, assuming it reflects good value for money. Compared to the Grabovski deal, it is a bargain. This is just good asset management.

    • Mick says:

      I think this is Bergevin’s first bad move. Should only have given him 2 years.

  11. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Now we know where Cole’s money went…

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  12. HabFanSince72 says:

    The Kaberle buyout issue.

    He has one year left at $4.25M.

    1) He is bought out. That costs $3M.

    2) He gets injured and cannot be bought out. You must pay him $4.25M but you can use the capspace for another D man.

    So in both cases you get capspace back. Option 2 is only $1.25M more.

    Are we really not playing Kaberle to avoid his getting a season ending injury, just to save $1.25M?

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      Amnesty buyout doesn’t cost anything against the cap.


      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      With the cap dropping down to 64 million…would not be surprised. You can sign a 4th liner with the savings.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • knob says:

      And, for what it’s worth, Kaberle has actually played decent. He has certainly lost a step be he is a better option for the power play, as opposed to using Bouillon or, yes, Gorges.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        The mild improvement he provides over Josh Gorges and Francis Bouillon on the powerplay is more than offset by his indifferent, uninvolved play in general in other situations.

    • krob1000 says:

      Whether people like it or not he is a good insurance policy if Markov goes down or any two of Markov/Diaz/Subban. HE also may have value at the deadline if someone is need of a pp dman…a team that is built a little differently than ours would be able to use Kaberle….the Habs D is not a great fit for him but he is still an NHL dman. We are not playing him becuase he is being outplayed by the other guys who fill that role.

    • Phil C says:

      3) He gets injured, but is healthy in time for the season, but after the buyout window has passed in the summer. Habs get stuck with the salary.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Not quite HFS72. Your take on option 2 is correct if he suffers an injury that prevents him from playing clear until the end of the 2014 season. The risk though is if he suffers a groin strain or concussion that puts him on the IR until next training camp. This would prevent the team from using the amnesty buyout provision on him this summer, and then have to carry his salary on our cap total next season.

  13. Saintpatrick33 says:

    Desharnais 4 yrs at $3.5M cap hit not too bad. I was worried it would be over 4 mil which would be overpayment.

  14. ed says:

    I like Desharnais but I would not have committed for 4 years term.

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      Completely agree. Once Galchenyuk is switched to centre, there should be no place for DD on our team. Unless he gets moved to the wing of course. I really hope neither Plekanec or Eller will be traded because of this signing because that would be a huge mistake.

      • krob1000 says:

        Look at it this way NONE of DD, PLeks or Eller were ready fro primetime minutes at center until 23 or later…..which is how old Galchenyuk will be at that point

        • Bob_Sacamano says:

          Right but I assume Galchenyuk will be ready for that earlier, maybe two years from now.

          • krob1000 says:

            so you sign a verymoveable part as an insurance policy and in him you get a guy who wants to be there and is still in his prime years. Also insurance against Pleks slipping or Eller levelling off….3.5 it is no big deal…if he got market value plus the Montreal surcharge that normally is added to Hab contracts …then that 4th year becomes an issue. In this case…that extra year is able to be converted either through another center(being moved), insurance(another center injured or declining in production), or moved for assets (will be a very attractive deal likely at that point with him being still in prime years)

  15. Steeltown Hab says:

    I really don’t understand why NOW. Like why not wait till the end of the year, it’s not like he’s shown this year he’s so vital to the teams success that we need commit to 4 years.

    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

  16. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    3.5 million/year for DD…would have preferred 3 million. Actually, would have preferred if MB waited till after the playoffs. I wanted see him first in a seven game series against the other team’s bigger centermen. What was the rush?

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  17. Cal says:

    Dreger says 4 years at $3.5.

  18. Propwash says:

    Dreger says 4 years 3.5m average


  19. aj says:

    Good move for Bergevin to keep Desharnais here. This is another sign of the current GM putting his fingerprint in the way he does things. I predict this will be like a 5-6 yr. contract extension, similar to Max Pacioretty’s long-term deal.

    There seems to be another trade on the works by MB come April 3rd. Any news or ‘rumours’ about that?

  20. MattZ says:

    DD extended 4 years, no sign of $ though

  21. Stuck_in_To. says:

    Attended the ACC last night where the Leafs were merely competent while the Penguins were awful for 50 minutes. Even Crosby was failing to complete easy passes. But for all the advantage enjoyed by the Leafs, they only had a handful of scoring opportunities and did not convert. When the Penguins woke up around the 50 minute mark, they stomped on the Leafs. Those guys still have a long way to go.

    I always forget just how large players are.

  22. Steeltown Hab says:

    Tweet from Dan Kramer that sums up my concerns.

    “Here’s an issue: #Habs Max Pacioretty is undoubtedly team’s 1st line LW. And we have little evidence Desharnais can be productive w/out him.”


    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

    • HabFanSince72 says:


    • Habfan10912 says:

      Morning Steel. I don’t understand some of the dislike of DD’s game by some. While I admit his lack of size and lack of a solid defensive game, the guy is a very consistent player who always seems to make his line mates better. I think he should be given some credit for Patches production along with Cole’s last season. I admit that I am probably looking through my Hab colored glasses but I really like DD’s game.

  23. HabFanSince72 says:

    They are not calling up rookie D-men to “showcase” them. That makes no sense.

    First, the team needs to win every game.

    Second, a rookie D-man in his first 3-4 NHL games will never look that good.

    Third, NHL teams have AHL scouts. If they want to find out about Tinordi or Pateryn they can look at their performance over many games at a more appropriate level of competition.

    They’re calling up those guys because they don’t want to play Kaberle, which is odd to me.

    • mksness says:

      either they are trying to work out a trade for kaberle, which i don’t think is that far fetched that a team may want to take a chance on or they don’t want him hurt so they can buy him out.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Amnesty buyout 2? I think the simple explanation is MB has found ZERO interest in the trade market for Kabrele and to avoid injury he’s not willing to play him and thus screwing up the ability to buy him out during the off season.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      The common consensus is that they don’t want Kaberle to get hurt so they can buy him out. This would mean that nobody wants him (expected). I think that they are looking for another defenceman so they are trying out their guys first. Either that or the asking prices are a lot and MB wants to try out his guys first. Who really knows…

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  24. Lafleurguy says:

    There are deadline deals and non-deadline deals, and it’s very encouraging that a valuable player like DD is being treated very respectfully; comparable to how Max Pac was handled.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Morning Guy. I tend, no I admit I pretty much ignore the business side of the game, but is this a bridge contract for DD or did he already sign his bridge contract?

      • Lafleurguy says:

        Hi Jim! Ben, Chris, Frank, Steve, Tom would know the answer. (There are other expert posters who I unintentionally left out). I would conjecture that players like DD may have different rules, for example attaining RFA status due to age over 27. I recall encountering an UFA category 6, and to dodge sniping from the nasties if I posted something wrong, it may have been an UFO category 6!

        “May you live in interesting times.”

      • 24 Cups says:

        This is DD’s fifth year as a pro, sixth if you include the ECHL.

        I think this is his last RFA contract. Having said that, I still think MB should negotiate (coin) as if this was a bridge deal.

        As for any fear of signing him due to the MaxPac factor, I understand that point. There also is the fact that we have four good centers moving forward. However, signing DD is just a way of protecting an asset. None of us know how things will shake down roster wise during the next few years. We have our assumptions and desires, but the Erik Cole situation proves that nothing is cast in stone.

  25. HabinBurlington says:

    Jonathan Quick and Pekka Rinne both pulled last night, wonder if fans there are preparing the gallows for these goalies also?

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Ah, but the rest of the universe is not as expert in hockey matters, and especially goaltending as Canadiens fans!

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • mksness says:

      goalies in general have been struggling. i guess due to the lockout for some and others are just being exposed by either bad defence or the book is out on that goalies weaknesses

      • Lafleurguy says:

        Have you noticed how many snipers are now in the league? Pacioretty is getting it on the net better (same for Subban). Silfverberg and Zibenajad have amazing shots. And ever since Peter Forsberg used it in a World Ice Hockey Championship in ’94 against Sean Burke, the “backhand dangle” is regularly employed. Last night Shawn Mattias undressed a Boston D and Rask with a backhand dangle (after amazingly getting back up on his feet in 0.2 seconds).

        “May you live in interesting times.”

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Some here still yearn for the backup goalie of the Blues and droll over the hope of returns of other Hab failures Ryan OB and Aaron Palushaj.

  26. Steeltown Hab says:

    Predictions for DD’s extension…GO


    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Pac, Emelin – @J_Perez22

  27. JohnBellyful says:

    Are you a goaltender whose team appears headed to the playoffs and there’s a really good chance you could wind up in the Stanley Cup final?
    Sure, there are flaws in the team’s game – no team is perfect – but they’re no worse than any your opponents have.
    Except for one.
    Your defence is undersized or plays small. It has trouble keeping the other teams’ forwards out of your face. Rivals block your view, and get in the way while you’re trying to make a save.
    When you’re winning, the problem’s nothing more than a minor irritant but as the season draws to end and the pressure mounts, that pimple could burst your dream of a championship.
    Incredibly, your GM is doing nothing to get rid of the blockhead (or two) in the lineup.
    Don’t wait until it’s too late. Act now.
    The answer is clear.
    The answer is ClearACrease®.
    Liberally apply this noxious cream to your uniform and equipment and watch your foes scatter.
    Remove that welcome mat they’ve placed at your doorstep.
    One whiff of you and they’ll start whiffing their shots.
    ClearACrease® is the ideal solution for a porous defence that doesn’t clog up the lanes and allows opposing teams into your crease, increasing the odds of a goal being scored.
    When blueliners aren’t doing their job, it’s up to you to plug the holes. Nose holes, in particular.
    ClearACrease® is guaranteed to fill the nostrils of opponents with a stench so powerful few, if any, will venture anywhere near your ‘workplace’. Those who dare to try will be instantly overcome with nausea and collapse, providing an additional barrier to shots along the ice making it into the net.
    But won’t ClearACrease® overpower its own user, you ask.
    Yes – if applied all at once. But when applied in small increments over a four week period, the cream causes the user to lose his sense of smell.
    Then he can lather it on as much as he wants.
    The results are impressive.
    “I’ve been using ClearACrease® for decades and I’ve won more games than any other goalie, three Stanley Cups and four Vezina Trophies,” says Martin Ordure, who hasn’t been able to smell roses in 25 years.
    ClearACrease®’s active ingredients include dried skunk scent glands, baby poo extract, shredded Conservative campaign literature, and Brut.
    In addition to removing filth and grit from goalmouths, ClearACrease® also melts show showers before they reach your face, and discourages annoying head bumps from teammates after a victory.
    ClearACrease® does have its limits. Its makers cannot guarantee unblemished performances by goaltenders. Shots from centre ice that bounce in for a goal and other ‘softies’ are beyond the cream’s powers to eradicate.
    Side effects include extended periods of loneliness, loss of hair and shrunken testicles.

    — “A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants.” —

    • HabinBurlington says:

      This sounds a lot like Deer Antler Spray? You sure you aren’t infringing on some copyright laws John?

      • habstrinifan says:

        Good one! I hear V.J and A-Rod are already on the phone with John. Someone please tell my wife that she’s wrong about why A-Rod is called A-Rod. She thinks she knows baseball better than me and insists that it cant be for his hitting in the clutch… she thinks it’s his hitting in the cr… Well you guys talk to her.

      • JohnBellyful says:

        Sal, my brother-in-law, watches a lot of Law and Order, and he says no.

    • Cal says:

      Now, that is one smelly belly post. Thanks, JB. My morning LOL! 😀

    • habstrinifan says:

      Very good John. I think my “not bathing until we beat the Bruins” bodily avoirdupois beads were used as a base point in the lab.

      By the way I assured the Food and Drug and the ‘tree huggers”, on your behalf, that no conservatives were harmed in the shredding process. Strange look on the tree-huggers face … almost like look P.K had when he said “he was sad to lose the G-spot.” Get your mind outta the gutter folks.. I meant G-SPOT as in the Alaskan ex-hab.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      LMAO. Brut? LOLOLOLOL One of your best John! Hope all is well bud.

  28. commandant says:

    Contract Extension for David Desharnais


    Go Habs Go!
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    • HabinBurlington says:

      Morning Ben, despite DD making his way to the NHL by a different route than most, do you think we can expect this to be a “bridge” contract for DD? I wonder if MB will go the 2 yr. term route with a modest raise.

  29. HabinBurlington says:

    Not only will Habs be well rested going into Saturdays game against the Devils, but the Devils are also playing in Philadelphia tonight. Would be nice to take advantage of them being tired.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Good morning Gerald. Road games are always difficult. It seems through the years that we always end up taking one or two 5-3 ‘s against these guys.
      BTW – I hear the Toronto fan base is talking about morale victories led by it’s Chief Cheerleader Pierre McGuire. You WILL enjoy your day there I bet.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Yes I heard PM on the radio this morning saying just that. I will definitely have one eye on the Jets/Leafs game tomorrow night and one on RDS following our beloved Habs.

        Morning Jim!

  30. habstrinifan says:

    Thanks Jackal for he link to P.K/Prusts ‘fatherly advice’. The video after shows the MB interview by fans. Couldnt help but think about John Tototella(?) and how “out the door” he would be as a coach if MB were running the NYR.

    I am not saying one way is right or the other..takes all kinds way I see it.. but Man oh Man MB would have shut Torts up long time ago.

  31. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    Do you notice how many posters have stopped coaching from the couch and started managing the corporation from the couch? It’s becoming post after post about who is worth astronomical amounts of cash, now, this very moment. People have really bought into the idea that money shows a man’s worth.
    There was a time when Hab fans compared players to players – current, past, legendary, etc. Now we compare them to numbers.

    I know the Cap is a constraint, as is the appeal of all the money thrown around in this entertainment industry that entertains us so well. But man, this recent trend is turning hockey talk into a parody of a bunch of gangsta rappers working with their accountants.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      It is too bad that contracts and contract talk have become almost more important than a players hockey skills.

      Go Habs Go!

    • Habfan10912 says:

      For me it started with the lockout. For me the business side of the game is boring. I guess it’s here to stay but I agree with your post. It’s more entertaining to talk about the players, match-ups, trades etc…

    • Phil C says:

      Being an armchair GM is pretty normal around the trade deadline and the start free agency. We will go back to armchair coaching after the trade deadline, I don’t think it has anything to do with them winning.

  32. Mick says:

    Little David is getting a contract extension with the Habs.
    Good for him that he is going to get some money and term.
    Can we trade him now?

    Be Happy…….

    • habstrinifan says:

      If he’s getting 4.5… forget trading him. In my opinion he’s not worth 4.5 anywhere else but Mtl.
      And I do think he is a very good player and has earned his spot.

      • Gerry H says:

        No chance he is getting term or 4.5 a year. If the number is real, it’s $4.5 over two, which would be a steal.

        MB ain’t giving DD more term or dollars than PK coming out of his ELC.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        I would be surprised if he got that much especially as an RFA.

        David Perron for example ( to pick another David) is on a $3.8M cap hit. I think he is a comparable player (perhaps Perron is a bit better?).

        So I would take $3.5M as a starting guess.

  33. D Man says:

    I love going to the Leaf comment section in the TO papers. So desperate. Right now they are feeling the collapse happening again. Maybe it will or maybe not but it sure is fun to watch!

    You can’t be both a Habs and a Leafs fan

  34. SUMO says:

    TSN’s Darren Dreger says the Blues are entertaining offers on Chris Stewart for defensive help. This is exactly the type of player the Habs should make a serious pitch for. He is young 25, consistent 25-30 goal scorer, right-handed shot and playing for an RFA contract (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=418158)

    Defense is an area of strength for the Habs; so aside from Subban (a keeper), Markov & Kaberle (too old, expensive and not fair value) everyone else should be in play. Is Diaz (27yrs, inexpensive contract) and one of our A+ defense prospects (Beaulieu or Tinordi) enough to land Stewart?

    Dreger also just tweeted Desharnais’s contract extension to be announced on Friday.

    • The_Salted_One says:

      Actually, was thinking that the reason Pateryn and now Tinordi were being brought up was possibly to showcase them for a possible trade. was thinking the same when kabby played a couple games and played relatively well only to be replaced by webber. Almost as if management is rotating the D to showcase some trade bait. I am probably wrong, but i wonder if anyone else thought this?

      your friendly neighborhood Salted One

      • SUMO says:

        Actually i thought the same thing. In the past 10games; Kaberle, Weber, Pateryn and now Tinordi have all suited up……

        • Good Habit says:

          When points are on the line, I find it hard to believe that a COACH would showcase a player and risk losing a game. You ice the best lineup possible. My guess is that Therrien and Bergevin are seeing who fits in best until Diaz comes back. It’s not to say that they MB isn’t considering trading a D-man before the deadline. Who wouldn’t want a guy like Chris Stewart? Especially a perennially undersized team like the Habs. I just hope we don’t give up too much. I wouldn’t give up Diaz and (Tinordi or Beaulieu). Maybe Diaz and a forward prospect (Leblanc, Kristo, etc.) Take it or leave it. I can’t believe what San Jose wants for Ryan Clowe. The guy has 0 goals and is -7 and they want the moon for him. Patience is key here. I wouldn’t rush to pull the trigger if we keep winning. Let the other teams risk missing the playoffs. Then they will get desperate.

    • Marc10 says:

      Wow. Chris Stewart, eh. Oh man. That would be sweet and a right-handed shot to boot. That’s worth looking into.

      DD locked up. I love it.

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      That unfortunately would probably not enough.

      DD is supposed to get 4.5 m a year I read on twitter (various sources). I hope this is some sick joke. What is Eller going to get next season then, 6 million? We don´t need DD at centre and who knows how valuable he would be as a winger? More than 3 m per year would be a mistake.

      • geo_habsgo says:

        Eller is not worth anywhere near 4.5 million at this point, in spite of his strong play this season. Whether you are a fan of Desharnais game or not, he is a productive player and has been for a season and a half now. Eller has been a strong, flashy player consistently for this season only. You can’t compare the two players. Eller, if he continues on this pace, will get his payday someday.

  35. The Jackal says:

    Has anyone else seen this? It’s pretty funny, it’s Prust and PK on how Prust’s dad asked to talk to PK on the phone to tell him to shoot the puck more.


  36. HardHabits says:

    Habs have the 3 of best 2nd centres in the league.


    • H.Upmann says:

      That’s a pretty cool way to look at it. And to think one of them is only 19. I really think Chucky and Eller can develop into those Hossa and Sundin mould-types.

      side note on 5’9s: Though we miss some of Cammy’s offence, I’m glad his cap hit is off our books now. Especially if it means down the road we get a chance to take a look at Danny Kristo or Colberg and use space to sign Subban.

      • 24 Cups says:

        I don’t think Dave was including Galchenyuk. Right now he’s not capable of playing center in the NHL. The three centers are Pleks, Eller and DD. None are good enough to be #1, but all three are solid 2nd line pivots.

        On a team without any star forwards, offense by committee rules the day.

        • Clay says:

          I thought the same Steve. Bodes well if (when) Galchenyuk is ready though, because I think he may finally be he number 1 we’ve been looking for.

          ☞ The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool. ~ Richard Feynman ☜

  37. HabFanSince72 says:

    Ryan O’Byrne is benched by a team that is 23rd overall in goals against.

    Why anyone would want him on the Habs is a mystery.

    (Or what Matty said below.)

  38. HardHabits says:

    The 5 best teams in the NHL right now (alphabetically) are Anaheim, Boston, Chicago, Montreal, and Pittsburgh. Those teams are separating themselves from the rest of the pack and if the trend continues there will be a huge gap between the top 5 and the rest of the league.

    The rest of the league however is clustered together. 5 points separates 6th to 20th.

    The NE Division having 4 teams in the top 10, with 4 teams possibly in the play-offs this spring, also means that the Eastern Conference could have 4 teams in the draft lottery this summer.

  39. durocher says:

    Ryan O’Byrne was a healthy scratch tonight. We should give Tinordi a few games to show what he’s got and, unless he blows MB/MT away, we should take a serious look at OB. Stu Bickel is another person who could give us depth on the right side (he can also throw ’em).

    • Mattyleg says:

      Why on Earth would we want a player we got rid of, and who is now a healthy scratch on a far worse team than we are?

      Might as well try to get Gomer back.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • HardHabits says:

        Therrien has intimidated the line combos out of us for good it seems. I am looking forward to Bergevin scaring that crap out of the ludicrous trade talk too. Ryder for Cole is the first salvo.

        Haven’t seen any of the infamous line combo with players that have been traded for in a while either. Good riddance too.

      • Clay says:

        You nailed it Matthew. Why indeed?

        ☞ The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool. ~ Richard Feynman ☜

    • habstrinifan says:

      Do not agree with those who dismiss re-acquiring Ryan O’Byrne out of hand. But, and this is a BIG BUT, if you are suggesting trading Tinordi for him.. NO! I dont think you are though… if Tinordi is to be sent back for seasoning then no harm evaluating an O’Bryne reacquisition.

  40. Garbo says:

    Not much of a pole question. Maybe a few years from now… but is there really any argument that Pleks is not the best centerman on the team?

    This only becomes an issue because of the consistent lack of an identifiable 1st line. Take each center individually and I think any GM in the league would take Pleks over the others.

  41. Garbo says:

    Leafs lose again.

    Really looks like Carlyle is a shoe-in for the Jack Adams! (I’m truly baffled by some of the fools out there who keep saying this… typical Leafs fans always think they’re the best at everything)

    Meanwhile practically the same team he coached to bottom of the West last year is tearing it up under new leadership.

    • Bill says:

      It’s been well documented that the Leafs’ hot start was based on a lot of very fortunate and aberrant statistical oddities. Getting outshot and outchanced, but winning games based on unusually high shooting percentages. Reimer and Scrivens putting up weirdly high save percentages.

      When things start to regress to the mean – and maybe they have been over the past four games – it’ll get harder.

      But I think they were lucky enough at the start to be able to coast into the playoffs just by going .500 the rest of the way. I think they’ll do it. The Rangers and Flyers are just dysfunctional this year. Total crap.

      And that’s good. I’d love to see them make the playoffs and meet the Habs somewhere. Win or lose, it’ll be a fantastic series!!

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • The Jackal says:

        IF we lost that series, that would NOT be fantastic.
        Heads will be called for like no other time before in the history of HIO.

        • Bill says:

          Yeah, and then the playoffs would be over, and summer would come, and the next season would start. I’ve been through heartbreak before, I’d get over it, so would the rest of us. Losing to Boston in 7 games after PK tied it up with seconds left was pretty devastating too.

          And mainly, I guess I just think the Habs win that series walking away anyhow, haha.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

      • Garbo says:

        I agree. I think it would be pretty cool to have a Leafs-Habs playoff series. Starting to get tired of the Bruins rivalry, would be nice to have a new team to hate with the same intensity 🙂

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        Yeah, for the past while, it seemed like they just got goal after goal without much effort. And even though Scrivens leaves a ton of rebounds that would normally result in goals, it never seemed to happen.

        I said this before and I’ll say it again: not sure I would want the Habs to face them in the 1st round. If they’re to meet, hopefully it’s in the CF if they both make it that far. Not sure Habs fans’ collective ego could withstand losing to them in the 1st round, lol.

        • Bill says:

          The Habs and Leafs have met in the playoffs before. Mostly the Habs win, but sometimes they lose. The Habs have lost in the Cup Finals to Toronto before. The world kept turning.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

          • jedimyrmidon says:

            Except the last time Toronto made the playoffs 7-8 years ago, more than any other team in the NHL.

            And Cup Finals? 1967. 1967!

            That kind of ‘futility’ means that one team’s [fanbase] has a lot more to gain while the other [fanbase] has a whole lot more to lose. Of course, it only matters if you care what Toronto thinks… Which you apparently don’t (being much wiser).

          • geo_habsgo says:

            You’re very cerebral at 12 am lol. :p

    • Whatever says:

      McLaren and Orr each played just over 2 minutes the entire game. Didn’t even spend time in the box, just the bench.

      Brilliant coaching to willingly play a game two forwards short in the lineup. I’m sure the other 3 lines appreciated it. Not as much as the Penguins though.

  42. hockeymaniac31 says:

    Just finished watching highlights on youtube of the Habs beating both the Caps and the Pens in 7 games. After watching those I came to 2 conclusions. #1 is that if Cammaleri could of played like that during the whole regular season he would be still on this team and being a big part of it I may add. #2, the reseaon the highlights stopped there is because the Habs played the Flyers which were a much bigger team and too physical for the Habs. That being said looking at this team the Habs are much better BUT still lacking that physical presence that could have pushed them over the top 2 years ago. This team is only one BIG BAD physical player who can play nasty away from putting them on the top. Hate to say it but we just can’t play a 7 game series and expect to win it against teams like Boston with the roster we have as of now. And Tinordi is not the answer. Not yet anyway.

    • hockeymaniac31 says:

      We need someone like a Scott Stevens or dare I say it a Darcy Tucker on our team. Someone who puts fear into the opposition to where if you lay a finger on our guys you better be looking the get the SH$? beat out of you. Thats the player that will put us over the top!

      • Bill says:

        Yeah, Darcy Tucker was terrifying. Lol. Would fight anyone … would lose to anyone. He played with an edge, I’ll grant you, but the worst thing he ever did was try to be a fighter. Too small and not good at it. That guy was a Hockey Player. Fantastic. I watched him in Fredericton with the Baby Habs and he was … beautiful. A force. If he’d tried to be more of gritty scorer and less of a scrapper he’d have had an even better career.

        Alain Vigneault actually ruined him in Montreal with this idiotic, rookie-coach “three chairs” system: he used to say “you can be a scorer, a defensive player, or a tough guy … choose one”. Moronic. I mean, right, who would want a versatile player?

        Full Breezer 4 Life

      • Mattyleg says:

        No player is scared to play physical hockey because some idiot is going to ‘beat them up’ or -more likely- ‘beat up the other goon on your team’.

        Who was ever scared of Darcy Tucker?

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      We lost to the Flyers because Halak’s magic ran out.

  43. jedimyrmidon says:

    Okay… so all four Canadian teams in the East are in a playoff spot. Would be nice if it ended up that way by the playoffs.

    Of course, Bettman, Jacobs and Snyder wouldn’t like that.

    • rnnoble says:

      For now. Toronto better hope NYR and Philly don’t find their groove, and that NYI go back to their old losing habits!

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      Disagree. Would be much more fun if Toronto was the only Canadian team in the east to not make it.

    • Garbo says:

      I agree. I wish Toronto well. It’s really their fans I don’t like.

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        Have to agree… to a certain extent. Under Wilson, you didn’t have the Leafs taking dangerous runs at the Habs like they do under Carlyle. Unlike Emelin and Subban, the hits the Leaf were trying to make last game were goonish, dangerous and borderline. Also, engaging in goonish tactics like nearly kneeing Pleks after taking a 6-0 lead just to rub salt into the wounds is a show of poor sportsmanship.

        But yes, in general, Leafs fans tend to irk me more with the mouthing off. They like to call Gionta’s hit on Reimer dirty as if it were intentional and whatnot, which completely ignores the situation and the type of player Gionta is. Then they have Colton Orr punching Bourque in the face, most likely concussing him, and they’re probably completely fine with that, and probably also consider Gionta’s hit just as dirty.

      • HardHabits says:

        I feel sorry for Leaf fans.

    • Mattyleg says:

      No disrespect, but I couldn’t care less.
      I don’t like any other team in the NHL.
      Most teams have tons of Canadians on them anyway, so it doesn’t make a difference to me.
      Just means that the CBC can get all gooey.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Trisomy 21 says:

        I’m of the same opinion, but in the back of my mind I’d like to see a Canadian team win (preferably the Habs) for no other reason than to silence the critics who say Canada hasn’t won a cup in X years

  44. habs11s says:

    How long till Torts is unemployed?


    “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

  45. Storman says:

    Rangers lose Time to find a stream to watch Tortorella presser

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …is firstrowsports app safe Steve ?

      • Storman says:

        Chris i use adblock and ad block plus in my chrome browser and i never install anything from the first row sports site i just use the flash players availabe with the stream channels to watch any of the sporting events. Chris I Never have had any trouble even before i installed ad block, but if you use chrome as your browser iadblock is a good free application available at google web store to make your browsing and streaming ad free..

        I am actually watching Ducks vs Stars on first row sports right now Ice Hockey section and link 1 stream is absolutely perfect

        You dont have to download anything, do not download those HD streaming ads you do not need them , just click on one of the links for the games or event you want and they will play instantly after a very short buffer time, like the stars ducks games has 2 links,,, but link 1 is perfect so i have not even checked link2, for the UFC fight saturday night there will probably be about 12 different links or channels to choose from, just find the best stream and enjoy

        • Habitant in Surrey says:

          …I clicked on a link and up-popped a request to download, so that spooked Me 🙂

          …I do use Chrome and Ad-block

          …ok, I will give it a try fight night …again, thanks 🙂

          …and, have a ‘feelin’ ‘ this will be Georges toughest fight

          • Storman says:

            No problem, Chris if you need any help or have any questions i will look for you on HIO tomorrow and game night. cheers have a good one, should be a war Saturday night first Habs vs jersey and then George vs Diaz should be a good viewing night.

  46. Habilis says:

    Looking at the East standings tonight, there’s now some serious separation between the top three teams and the rest of the pack. Three horse race for number 1?

    I bet on the red horse. 😀

  47. Stevie.Ray says:

    TSN’s Insider Trading was talking about the most coveted players coming out of college this year. One of the top three was a 6’4” Quebec kid named Antoine Laganiere.
    I’ve been saying for years Montreal doesn’t draft enough players that project to be quality bottom six players, but this guy could help us in that area maybe? I imagine MB has to give the kid a serious look. What do you think?

  48. Habitant in Surrey says:


    …is anyOne here going to the Georges St. Pierre-Nick Diaz fight at the Bell Centre ?

    …if You are, I’m jealous 🙂

    …I’m much more a boxing fan, but this GSP-Diaz confrontation looks like it will be fun / celui-ci ressemble ça va être amusant 🙂

  49. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Leafs lose…dream of them finishing ninth coming true. What happened to ScriVezina? LOL!

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  50. mdp2011 says:

    off topic, but Baseball. has got its own version of the shootout at the WBC.

    Extra Innings
    For any inning beginning with the 13th inning, the Federation Team at bat shall begin the inning with runners on first and second base. The batter who leads off an inning shall continue to be the batter who would lead off the inning in the absence of this extrainnings rule. The runner on first base shall be the player (or a substitute for such player) in the batting order immediately preceding the batter who leads off the inning. The runner on second base shall be the player (or a substitute for such player) in the batting order immediately preceding the runner on first base. By way of example, if the #5 hitter in the batting order is due to lead off the 13th inning, the #3 player in the batting order (or a pinchrunner for such player) shall begin the inning on second base and the #4 player in the batting order (or a pinch-runner for such player) shall begin the inning on first base. Any runner or batter removed from the game for a substitute shall be ineligible to return to the game, as is the case in all circumstances under the Official Baseball Rules. For purposes of calculating earned runs under the Official Baseball Rule 10.16(b), the runners who begin an inning on first and second base pursuant to this rule each shall be deemed to be runners who have reached first base because of a fielding error, but no error shall be charged to the opposing Federation Team or to any player.

  51. ProHabs says:

    What really bugs me is when a team (the Habs) trade for a prospect that takes 5 years to finally make the show while the other team gets a player that is NHL ready immediately. Case in point:

    1) Greg Pateryn for Mikeal Grabovsky – even though Grab is a weasel, he has been an effective player for the Leafs while we got a guy that we are still not sure if he will be successful in the NHL after all this time.

    2) Micheal Bornival for Ryan O’Byrne – now I know RO’B is best know for stealing purses and scoring on his own net but he is a big physical defenceman who I am sure could fill our need for a number 6 d-man who can play tough. With Bornival, it looks like we will have to wait another two years just to see if he can play in the NHL.

    Hopefully the Habs stop making these types of trades.

    • habstrinifan says:

      We wont regret Bournival. Smarts just basically ooze from him.

      • ProHabs says:

        I hope your right. I haven’t really heard much about him in Hamilton this year. I just assumed he was having a bad year. Not sure what to make of him or Louis Leblanc right about now. Plus neither one of them is the strong powerful forward that can drop the mitts when needed that we really need.

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      The Grabovski trade I can understand. Why would the Habs want a disruptive player on their team, trying to dictate what he deserved? The Habs got a 2nd round pick, but they then traded it away so there could have been a more solid return had they used it.

      In any case, both trades aren’t that big of a deal. There can only be 23 players on the Habs’ roster and I don’t think guys like Grabovski and O’Byrne are huge losses (unlike McDonagh).

      Letting free agents walk for nothing hurt the Habs a lot more.

    • SlovakHab says:

      We sometimes trade players for picks/prospects, and sometimes picks/prospects for players.

      Just like any other team.

      In first case, fans will complain that we get rid of ready players for future uncertainty.
      In the second case, fans will complain that we sabotage our future for immediate need.

  52. habstrinifan says:

    Busy day so just

    Interesting discussion started by Ian re Colby Armstrong. I had him peg as one of the best additions but production wise it has not worked out that way. I had started to agree ,what I think is the majority, that we should get rid of him.

    But that discussion started by Ian had me breaking out in a cold sweat. I started thinking about Prust and how the Rangers undeestimated him and basically got rid of him. I agree with those(like that handsome guy who looks like Kirk Muller) who say that losing Armstrong’s intangibles (both on and off the ice) may come back and haunt us as losing Prust has done to the Rangers.

    Maybe we should just leave well enough-alone where Armstrong is concerned. He willl add some production to all hs intangibles as the season goes on.

  53. Stevie.Ray says:

    I’m going to Karaoke tonight. My usual songs are Tiny Dancer and Bad Moon Risin’. And then I usually try to sing Total Eclipse of the Heart to clear the place out.

    Tonight I’m going to try some new ones. Lola, by the Kinks and Angel, by Shaggy. Think that will go over well?

  54. Storman says:

    Apparently Canadiens not using Kaberle in fear he will get hurt and there would then be no chance of a team taking him off our hands at the deadline, and or risk losing him for a compliance buy out next year.. I wonder if they have some one driving him home from practice or if they even let him practice..

    • habstrinifan says:

      Kinda ruthless in a way. I think MB is like Obama that way.. smiles nice for you but deep down take sno prisoners in regards to running the team.
      People ignore how much of a political animal Obama is as we are beginning to understad just how tough MB is as a GM.

      • Storman says:

        Very good comparison, and you are right people do not know the tough political opponent Obama can be, I love it though, Republicans really have a terribly hard time dealing or getting there way with him.

        MB kind of ruthless, but when you think about it, he is trying to protect team going forward no matter how it is perceived, Looks Like the games kaberle played he was not too bad and that was his showcase for the league if someone needs a puck moving defense man at deadline. However he will not risk injury to Kaberle going forward , tough but hey Kaberle has no one to blame.. Really weird seeing this type of leadership, this is team first at all costs no prisoners no excuses, this team will be good for years going forward with this type of leadership.

        • ed says:

          Obama is protected by the media. You don’t see that?
          The media shows you the Obama they want you to see, that’s why you don’t see the “ruthlessness” in Obama.
          It doesn’t fit the character of the President they want to promote.

          The media used to challenge the President when I was a young man. Now they give him standing ovations when he appears at a Press conference.

          To answer your question below, there are no neutral media outlets today, and that is a real shame.

          • Storman says:

            Sure I do Fox News loves him , Media spin politics anyway they want, really are then any neutral media outlets anymore, Politics and the American financial Banking system is a complete farce, and the route of all corruption and evil in our society and will always be, So live life to the fullest and try to be kind do a favor for someone or try to make a change for good however small you may think it is perceived , when ever you can,

          • The Jackal says:

            Neutral? BBC News.
            Really neutral? ….it’s naive to think views won’t creep into a story or analysis, it’s natural. What matters is that it is not one-sided.

  55. habs-fan-84 says:

    Well Leafs lose lol. Listening to the FAN590 Should make for an enjoyable drive in to work tomorrow morning.

    Unfortunately, Boston won as well – keeps the pressure on the Habbies.


  56. mdp2011 says:

    Leafs lose 4th straight, seems like that 18 wheeler is heading toward the cliff again.

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