No changes expected to Habs lineup against Leafs

The Canadiens are expected to use the same lineup that beat the Pittsburgh Penguins 6-5 in a shootout Thursday when the Toronto Maple Leafs visit the Bell Centre Saturday night (7 p.m., CBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

Carey Price, who is still recovering from a lower-body injury suffered at the Sochi Olympics, won’t dress, with Peter Budaj making his third straight start. Dustin Tokarski, called up from the Hamilton Bulldogs to replace Price, will fill the backup role again.

Price, who is listed as day-to-day, will travel with the team on next week’s West Coast road trip.

“He’s doing well right now. He’s doing better, so that’s a good sign,” coach Michel Therrien told reporters about Price after Friday’s practice in Brossard.

Michael Bournival, recovering from a concussion, took part in Saturday’s morning skate wearing a no-contact jersey and isn’t ready for game action. Ryan White, who is battling the flu, also skated but isn’t expected to play tonight. George Parros would take White’s spot. Brandon Prust is also out with an upper-body injury.

Therrien is looking forward to the Hockey Night in Canada showdown against Toronto.

“Teams understand, especially at this time of the year, that two points are crucial,” the coach said Friday. “So I’m expecting an intense game like we always have when they’re playing us. It’s always a special time when you play the Leafs, especially on a Saturday night. They’re fun games to be part of, but both teams understand that this is a race to make it to the playoffs.”

After facing the Leafs, the Canadiens will head out on a four-game West Coast trip next week with stops in Los Angeles on Monday, Anaheim on Wednesday, Phoenix on Thursday and San Jose on Saturday.

On Friday night, the St. Louis Blues acquired goaltender Ryan Miller and forward Steve Ott from the Buffalo Sabres in exchange for former Habs goalie Jaroslav Halak, Chris Stewart, William Carrier, a first-round draft pick in 2015 and a third-round pick in 2016.

Here’s the projected Habs lineup to face the Leafs:

Galchenyuk-Plekanec-Gionta
Pacioretty-Desharnais-Gallagher
Weise-Eller-Bourque
Moen-Briere-Parros
 
Markov-Emelin
Gorges-Subban
Murray-Tinordi

 (Photo by John Kenney/The Gazette)

Budaj gets third straight start against Leafs, by The Gazette’s Brenda Branswell

Habs vs. Leafs preview, NHL.com

Game Day Report, Canadiens.com

Road ahead looks like a minefield for Canadiens, by The Gazette’s Pat Hickey

Gallagher is a Giant in Vancouver, by The Gazette’s Dave Stubbs

NHL teams paying a price for Sochi, by Pat Hickey

Subban talks to Nilan about relationship with Therrien, Stu on Sports blog

Bournival taking things one step at a time, Canadiens.com

Leafs, Bernier shake off Long Island letdown, Toronto Star

Plenty of sublots brewing for Habs-Leafs, Toronto Sun

Blues acquire Miller, Ott from Buffalo, NHL.com

The story behind Canada’s most famous Olympic hockey fan and his beer fridge, by The Gazette’s Stu Cowan

Young Habs fan gets special birthday memory, Letters to the Sports Editor

Habs prospect Fucale puts world junior disappointment behind him, montrealgazette.com

1,098 Comments

  1. Psycho29 says:

    St. Louis Blues ‏@StLouisBlues·2m
    BREAKING: The Blues have acquired Miller & Ott from Buffalo for Halak, Stewart, Carrier & two picks.

  2. Habitant in Surrey says:

    ‘Gionta, Markov focus for Habs before trade deadline day': cbc.ca; Tim Wharnsby

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports-content/hockey/opinion/2014/02/gionta-and-markov-front-and-centre-for-habs-before-trade-d-day.html

  3. thebonscott says:

    stewart to ottawa, no man say it ain’t so, we already have enough trouble with ottawa, was hopeing MB to land stewart

    C’mon guys this is not rocket surgery!!!!

  4. joeybarrie says:

    Halak coming back to haunt our division.
    Miller might get a Stanley Cup.
    Very interesting.

  5. Ron says:

    Rene Lavoie twetted Halak traded to Sabres for Miller

  6. monmick says:

    Ott and Miller to Blues, Stewart to Sens and Michalek to Sabres, or something like that in a 3-way deal…

    • IngersollHabsFan says:

      Hmmm…trade deadline just got interesting..

      “The sports page records people’s accomplishments, the front page usually records nothing, but man’s failures.” Earl Warren

  7. Paz says:

    I look at Subban, Eller, Galchenyuk, and I see the future of this team.

    These three players were 3 of our best last season, full of promise.

    There is reason to be concerned regardless of our record.

  8. Prop says:

    Seems that Saint Louis is about to acquire one Ryan Miller.

    ____________________
    DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

  9. HabsLifer says:

    Here a thought. PK is a defensive liability as we all know (althought not everyone agrees). That giveaway to Sutter will attest to that. Why don’t we try PK up front? He likes to move in the offensive zone and with the right line, it could be a good experience for all. You could always use him at the point on the powerplay. What do you think?

    ———————————
    Claude Provost Rocked!

    • Commandant says:

      I think that one mistake does not make a player a defensive liability.

      Every stat shows that PK makes far more good offensive plays than bad ones.

      And I don’t move a norris trophy winner to forward. Thats silliness.

      Go Habs Go!

      http://lastwordonsports.com/

      • D Man says:

        One mistake? Really?

        You can’t be both a Habs and a Leafs fan

      • JohnBellyful says:

        It worked for Red Kelly, a Hall of Famer, so there has been a precedent, albeit a different era.
        So I wouldn’t call it silliness out of hand.

        Wikipedia:
        “Once Kelly arrived in Toronto, Imlach asked him to become a full-time centre, figuring that Kelly could easily match up against the Montreal Canadiens’ Jean Béliveau. The switch paid off. Already a great playmaker, Kelly turned Frank Mahovlich into one of the most lethal goal scorers in NHL history. He won his fourth Lady Byng Award in 1961. In his eight seasons with the Leafs, they won the Stanley Cup four times – the same number of times he’d won in Detroit.”

        Hmm, Eller is struggling … he might make a good blueliner. He is responsible defensively.

    • punkster says:

      Oh great…comedy night on HIO.

      Dump DD…
      Play Larry and Chucky 20+ minutes per game…
      Go full Breezer.

    • Habfan17 says:

      He was a forward until his Dad had him switch to defence!

      Habfan17

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      He had a terrible game, no argument, but everyone has one now and then and the good thing is we won. I think all the B.S. surrounding the O’s and the talk of P.K. being a defensive liability has hurt his game, that’s for sure. I also think Therrien hasn’t been much help. Thoroughbreds need a nuanced hand and I don’t believe MT has it in him.

      Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

  10. ProHabs says:

    I am not a DD basher. I dont’ mind the guy that much but did any of you notice the number of times he turned the puck over in his zone and didn’t get the puck out of the zone. There was a couple of shifts where he had more than 1 chance to get the puck out and didn’t. Others would have been benched for this.

    Just saying. Again, I don’t mind Little DD. And he scored the shootout winner. Yahooo!

  11. Commandant says:

    The Habs are no longer small.

    We just signed a 6’8″ beast who is one of the best athletes in the world.

    From the Habs official twitter.

    https://twitter.com/CanadiensMTL/status/439504774153527296

    Go Habs Go!

    http://lastwordonsports.com/

  12. scrotchland says:

    Please fire that Therian today….do it now., and that Pom Pom cheerleader gorges can go with him. both useless as kids on a bull.

  13. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Fans are idiots ? (including Me :) )

    …I think so, We have a Coach whom when hired over Patrick Roy I did a very convincing imitation of Arliss watching Travis shootin’ Ol’ Yeller

    …but, the Guy (Therrien) has this Team of mongrels and shake n bakes in SECOND PLACE !!! fer Gawd’s sake

    …let’s leave Our ammunition dry for when We miss the play-offs

    …then go all Pol Pot

  14. Storman says:

    @ bellcentre hotdog,,, thanks for that clip,, did not know an NHL franchise could shit the bed so bad with just a pre game ceremony, painful, hilarious..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iPvC1WEIYM

  15. CJ says:

    Just a reminder, Sportsnet is carrying the London Knights game tonight at 7:00pm. Great chance to see Mike McCarron.

  16. munch17 says:

    Lots of talk about Lars Eller.
    He’s strong,he’s big.he hits,has pretty good hands – obviously not a fit for the Habs.
    In the last two years he has played 107 games and has 18 goals and 33 assists for 51 points ( .47 PPG)
    He kills penalties , and is given no PP time.
    David Desharnais has played 106 games, scored 21 goals, 41 assists for 62 points ( .58 PPG).. He plays with the top wingers and doesn’t get shuffled around. He plays top PP minutes and doesn’t contribute defensively. He is soft and easy to play against. He goes down like a rag doll.It is laughable.
    We could win with Lars Eller as the number 3 center.
    WE WILL NEVER BE A WINNING TEAM WITH DAVID DESHARNAIS AS THE NUMBER ONE CENTER.

    • PrimeTime says:

      What is our record?

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    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      No, but the team could win with Desharnais and Pacioretty as second liners (their contracts are bargain second line) and Galchenhuk as the top center… I’d like to see a 3rd line of Plek-Eller(LW) – Gallagher… Move Bourque to RW to play with DD and Patch. Then go get Galchenyuk some wingers, a guy that can actually play the PP. Maybe Moulson-Galchenyuk-Gaborik… Just the first two UFA that came to mind.

      It’s time to build around Galchenyuk.. Why the worry over Eller? He hasn’t shown a true offensive touch.. He has a great skill set but rarely makes high intelligence plays.. I see Eller as a bottom 6 guy, a valuable bottom 6.

    • B says:

      DESHARNAIS ISN’T THE NUMBER ONE CENTER.

      –Go Habs Go!–

  17. Kooch7800 says:

    Dan Girardi and the NY Rangers agree to 6-year $33 million extension.
    “Lets Go Canada”

  18. UKRAINIANhab says:

    Lets just pause for a moment and imagine if Gorges was the captain!

    …actually lets not!!!

  19. AndyF says:

    It’s just as clear as ever that in order to win a Cup, you have to do everything right. Everything.

    Sadly, in Montreal’s case they will never get *everything* right as long as they make French a condition for being a coach here. French should definitely be a condition for being in a marketing or PR position. But the coach is not a press coach, or a public relations coach. He is the coach of the players.

    I think we’ll continue to see the Habs underperform for a long time. :(

    • bwoar says:

      So you’re blaming the French fact for the team’s inability to win a Cup? Too bad for 29 other owners that they didn’t have such a convenient explanation!

      • AndyF says:

        I’m saying that in any multi-factor competitive system, over-constraining the choices is going to give you poor results.

        Just to be clear, take any other factor and throw in an additional arbitrary constraint. We only want left-handed coaches. Or we want goalies that were born in April or May.

        Any constraint that is unrelated to the skill level of the coach is one contraint too many.

        • DipsyDoodler says:

          I think you over-rate the importance of coaches. More to the point, the argument that the Habs are handcuffing themselves with incompetent coaches is simply not true.

          Among the coaches hired by the Habs in the last three decades, Lemaire, Demers, Burns, Perron, Julien won the cup, and Therrien and Vignault went to game 7 of the finals.

          The only two incompetent coaches we’ve had are Mario Tremblay and Randy Cunnyworth.

          Jacques Martin and Carbo were both good. Not sure what happened with Carbo.

          So the reality is that the Habs have actually been a coaching factory over the last 30 years. Has any other team produced as many competent NHL coaches? If anything the problem is we fire them too easily.

          • DipsyDoodler says:

            Also, the idea that there’s a guy out there, a genius, like a Bobby Fischer of coaching who we could hire if only he spoke French… Who is that guy?

            And please don’t mention the three best coaches in the league right now – they all have jobs.

          • AndyF says:

            Timing is important. You can have a good coach, but if he’s not there when your players mature, then it’s a wasted effort.

            If the coach has been picked from 1/6th of the coaching pool, then 5 times out of 6 you will not have made the right choice.

            In the most fortunate of circumstances, you might win a Cup. Remove the full potential of picking one of the factors perfectly and you have very little chance.

          • D Mex says:

            Wow.

            ALWAYS Habs –
            D Mex

    • UKRAINIANhab says:

      French thing does not help. It is not the reason we do not win the cup.

    • 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

      I’ll bite. We are in the thrall of the media/social media 24ch beast … a huge part of the job is PR, particularly when you are the big fish (the Habs) in a small pond (Quebec).

      I can’t really accept blanket criticism of the MT that comes from many quarters – when the Senators went on a 13? game winning streak and zoomed into the playoffs with a fairly average team, everyone raved about Corey Clouston and his system etc.

      He was fired the next year.

      I was not an MT fan but I will give him his due for the results that match the talent of his team.

      “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

    • New says:

      Julien. Quenneville. Stanley Cup 2013. But neither of them coached the Habs. I don’t know why people don’t get that.

    • D Mex says:

      Useless post, with a pinch of ignorance thrown in for flavour.

      ALWAYS Habs –
      D Mex

      • AndyF says:

        Thank you for the useful, informed post. :-)

        • D Mex says:

          Sorry.
          I have no idea what a ” multi-factor competitive system ” is, but it sure sounds important.

          What I do know is that 99% of Montrealers would not have posted comments as uninformed and insensitive as yours. However, your profile distinguishes you as being from Westmount, so I should probably inform myself by asking if you consider this the ” other 1% ” or the ” top 1% ” …

          Or are those constraints too ” arbitrary ” for you ?

          ALWAYS Habs –
          D Mex

  20. rhino514 says:

    I have a questions:

    Does a team get credited both for an extra goal for if they win in a shoot-out and an extra goal against if they lose in a shoot-out?
    If that´s the case, then if we want to know the “real” GF and GA for a team, we should lessen their goals against by the number of shoot-out losses, and subtract the number of shoot-outs won from their goals for, correct?
    I never saw the logic in why they count these goals which don´t exist.

    • krob1000 says:

      That is weird…and annoying. Part of why I would rather they go to the 3 on 3 format and play until someone wins. Yes thee will be the odd 20 minute OT…fans would love it. They could ditch teh controversial extra point, have gaols and stas mean something, hae team play still be factor, IMO be more exciting and really not sure how they lose.

    • New says:

      Give them 3 points for a regulation win, one and two for overtime. You’ll see overtime and shootouts almost disappear.

  21. sane hockey fan says:

    What do 2/3 of the people here want exactly? What would satisfy them? 1st place in the division? In the NHL? A shrine for PK outside of the Bell Centre?

    • shiram says:

      Success in the regular season, followed by a decent showing in the playoffs, and a not so boring style of play.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      LOL!

      A team that’s tough as nails that brawls their way to multiple Stanley Cups and injures as many people along the way as possible!

      I would settle for a shrine of Lyle Odelein outside the Centre Bell.

      • PrimeTime says:

        Roller Derby fan?

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    • 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

      To quote Earl Butz, loose shoes, and two things that will get modded …

      “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

    • New says:

      2/3 of them want to complain.

  22. bellcentre hotdog says:

    After watching the terriffic pre game ceremony honoring the Canadian Olympians at the Bell Centre Wednesday, and given the Canucks are hosting ‘The Heritage Classic’, I wonder if we’ll see another incredibly awkward moment. This pre game ceremony is so bad, awkward, and pointless, it’s hilarious!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iPvC1WEIYM

  23. Habfan17 says:

    Some of you were discussing the possibility of a Subban trade below. I guess it may come down to, what Bergevin really sees going on with Subban and if he thinks he will come around. How much money Subban will accept and term. If Markov signs for one or two years. I think if Bergevin is not convinced Subban will ever be more than he is now and he still wants $8 million, then he may decide to trade him. Stranger things have happened! Would Nashville trade Weber straight up? That is tough, I would think not.
    I do think there are teams that would pay handsomely to get him though! Edmonton!!! Send Eller and Subban for Eberle and Yakupov. Yes, I did say Eller, then move Bournival to Centre.

    Habfan17

  24. krob1000 says:

    There was this group of talented vets who have been competitive for years, then there was this young core of guys who were up and coming and then a couple of ready to contribute kids who noone expected along. All of these players had different assets they brought to the table….they needed some structure though to harness their talents…in came MB with MT, Gallant,etc and they did a marvelous job. Allowing all of these talents to flourish under a team oreinted system….but then….then came 2013-14.

    This is the year where that system became the be all end all and actually started to overrun the talent…the talent needed guidance and MT gets credit there…but the system is just that or supposed to be. It is a system and a foundation, an underlying strength…something that allows you to not falter but does not limit your potential. See Detroit…they play a very orgainzed sytem but within it they allow the talent to do what needs to be done especially across the red line. All players are responsible…but none are forced to vacate the style that got them where they are….in fact they were encouraged to develop their skills, taught to hang onto the puck and support the puck, taught to pressure in all circumstnaces and to rely on the underlying system…not become overridden by it. This is MT’s problem IMO.

  25. Habcouver says:

    One out of three of us here are happy with MT. I’m one and for the sole reason the Habs are in playoff contention given the limitations of the players actively on the roster. That is to say, MT has not done anything obtusely wrong (yet) to create chaotic poor performance.

    We Are (Not) All Canucks.
    Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

  26. Mr_MacDougall says:

    It was discussed on Hockey Central that Tyler Myers is available in Buffalo. He is 6’8″ plays the right side is signed for 5 more seasons at 5.5 mill and has been struggling mightily.

    The Sabres are looking to cut payroll and add veteran experience in the bottom 6 and back end.

    The thought of having a D-Core with Tinordi and Myers in for 10-15 years is very interesting. If the Sabers would be interested in Josh Gorges this could be a possibility…

    Thoughts?

  27. shiram says:

    “I can’t say much, we agreed not to say much, but talks are ongoing and Andrei wants to stay in Montreal,” Berezin told ESPN.com Friday. “We’ll see where it goes. He’s played 13 seasons with Montreal. He wants to finish his career in Montreal.”

    http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=nhl&id=29339&src=desktop

  28. BriPro says:

    Sarah McLachlan will be signing at the Heritage Classic in Vancouver?
    And I’m 3,000 miles away…. (heavy sigh).

  29. Garbo says:

    Here’s a better poll question for this fan base: Would you be happy with anyone coaching the Montreal Canadiens?

    I doubt the results would change much.

    MT has taken a so so team to second in the division and in a prime spot to make the playoffs. Give the guy a break.

    • krob1000 says:

      last year the team finished 4th overall and 2nd in the conference. The core of the team should be one year further along…that is hwere the problem is …the core of the team is not growing and that is pretty well the main complaint everyone is having. We are not talking about just Subban and Eller…..really name one player who is exceeding expectations going into the season? who is thriving? Even Dd and Patches are not exactly thriving…they are doing well but not as well as we would have hoped anyway.
      It feels as though Glaly, Chucky, Eller, Subban, Bournival, Beaulieu, Tinordi all either took steps back (Gally not stepped back but appears held back nd overloaded with too much workload on that line and takes a beating). I think the structure MT introduced last year was great…it was a big reason the team excelled..he deserves credit. Where the knock is he is now coming off as stifling…it seems the focus is so structured that it is crippling the games of some and many are forgetting who they are as players and what made them successful.
      MT did the same in Pitts…he came in and built the foundation…but he is not the guy to do the finishing work on the house…that is all.

      • Paz says:

        Seriously, with that group Therrien took over in Pittsburgh it is unbelievable that he was fired.

      • alain58 says:

        It is mostly the forwards who have problems. Fire the forward assistant coach, Gallant.

        • krob1000 says:

          Mianly the forwards? SUbban is minus 9 in the last 19 games adnthe team has donwe well over that stretch. Emelin has been a disaster. Beualieu and Tinordi both appeared ready last year.
          It is not just the forwards…it is across the board…it seems like this….

          There was this group of talented vets who have been competitive for years, tehn there was this young core of guys who ewere up and coming and then a couple of ready to contribute kids who noone expected along. All of these palyers had different assets they bourght to the table….they need some structure though to harness their taklents…in came MB with MT, Gallant,etc and they did a marvelous job. Allowing all of these talents to flourish under a team oreinted system….but then….then came 2013-14.
          This is the year where that system became the be all end all and actaully started to overrun the talent…the talent needed guidance and MT gets credit there…but the system is just that . It is a system and a fondation, an underlying strenght…somethign that allows you to not falter but does not limit your potential. See Detroit…they play a very orgainzed ssytem but within it they allow the talent to do what needs to be done across the red line. All players are responsible…but none are forced to vacate the style that got them where they are….in fact hey were encouraged to develop their skills, taught to hang onto the pucka nd support the puck, taught to pressure ina ll circumstnaces and to rely on the underlying system…not become overridden by it. This is MT’s problem IMO.l

    • D Man says:

      What he said!

      You can’t be both a Habs and a Leafs fan

    • alain58 says:

      Hey Garbo, I know a coach who took his team from the 3rd rank in their conference 4 years ago down to 5th, then 7th, then they moved the team in a weaker conference and they are still at 7th. Fire Babcock, he is dragging that team down. ;-)

      • krob1000 says:

        Babcock has had to play all year pretty well without his top forwards and even when they are playing they have been hurt. Also that decline was kind of impacted by some Lidstrom guy. Regardless Detroit is a great organization and they have a great foundation….they develop like no other organization…Tatar, Nyqvist and Jurco look like they will do as Hudler, Zetterberg and Datsyuk before them and continue the tradition those guys learned from Yzerman and Fedorov,etc….great teaching in that organziation and the long tenures and insistance on developing a style of play organizationally along with having their best palyers as role models who stay in their organization are big helps. In Montreal there was a long gap of Captains being traded, vets coming in and going out, young players being jettisoned before they ever would have been ever even playing in a place like Detroit.

        • sane hockey fan says:

          Always excuses for someone else. Jesus man, just give the man the respect he deserves. They are a mediocre team on paper playing well as a TEAM. The guys seem to like playing for him and the GM is happy with him. I’ll take their opinion over a bunch of couch surfers an day, thank you!

          • krob1000 says:

            Why are they a mediocre team on paper? ON paper they are ALL underachieving. Sounds ot me like you are the one making excuses. What guys seem to like playing for him? Last year I may have agreed with that…this year? not so much. Let me know next time they share their opinion with you and maybe then I’ll believe them…over a fellow couch surfer like yourself. Wow…talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Seriously go through the lineup and tell me one player who is doing better than you thought they would at the beginning of the year…there are how many guys on the team? and how many are thriving? If the team were doing extemely well that would be ok but I think they shold be contending with the top teams…not counting down games and having to look at playoff odds nightly.

            They have a Norris tropy dman, they have solid vet who is actually probably still the no 1 in Markov. They have 11 top 9 forwards. They have toughness, they have speed, they have a perfect blend of youth and veterans. What they do not have is any consistency or any confidence…last year they had both relative to this year….
            I still believe this team can make it out of the East….but all of the players who have been torn down to be built back up…and in a hurry.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      He’s getting results for sure — so far. But for a team that is supposedly being built with the future in mind, I think most of us are unsure about how he handles young players — as well as others such as giving Briere so little ice time and Markov so much. Let’s face it, his regime has not been one of meritocracy, which is what he stressed.

  30. habsfan0 says:

    Three consecutive starts for Budaj.
    And if he beats the Leafs, that’s 5 out of a possible 6 points.
    I wonder if Carey’s getting worried?

  31. Luke says:

    Hypothetical question about advanced stats:

    If Gallagher crosses centre at the end of a shift and lobs a puck lightly on net, is that given as much weight as him shooting from the slot?
    – If the centre shot counts, that improves Gallagher’s, and every Hab on the ice’s, ratings and hurts the entire defending team right?

    If the shot from centre in the above example hits a player (with their back turned, for the sake of this argument) does it count as a blocked shot, the same as it would for a defender to slide infront of the slot shot?

    Or do they take into account the quality of the shots and blocks etc?
    Is more credit given to either the shooter or blocker when a great save/block is made?

    Basically, I suppose I’m asking if all shots and blocks are treated equally?
    (edit)
    I’m curious about this, because I see the value in it, to a degree, but also see such a huge problem.

    It seems to me, that it removes the subjective ‘big picture’ impression we get of players by watching them play, but adds a subjective element to smaller details we now evaluate the players on.

    (This comes from seeing the Tweets about the conference going on right now).

  32. habzfan2003 says:

    Budaj again? Why not let the kid have the start to see what he can do?

    • CJ says:

      I think that time will come, provided Price is still not ready next week. Most likely on the back to back. This is a four point game against a divisional rival, so we need to ice the goaltender who provides the best chance for two points. Right now, Budaj is that guy. I thought he was very leaky in the first period last night, and average up to the shoot out, so it will provide a great chance to bounce back. Unfortunately, Bernier will be also seeking redemption following a bad outing in Uniondale, therefore it could be a tight checking contest on Saturday night.

    • alain58 says:

      I am not sure a regular season game against a divisional opponent is the best timing to see what a kid can do.

  33. Paz says:

    I think Bournival could be an excellent 3rd line centerman.

    • krob1000 says:

      He does well as a winger and the team is hurting at wing…. some guys can adjust easily and others are not cut out for it (see Eller and to some extent Galchenyuk). A guy like Bournival is so doggedly determined and can play the corner game and is so good at being the pressure guy that he thrives on the wing like Gallagher..only bigger.

      • Paz says:

        Ok agree with that. Like him on the wing. Like him on the penalty kill. Like him, period!

      • CJ says:

        I think, based on his play and particularly his compete level, that we need to find room for him on this roster. He may end up being our third line centre down the road. The best thing I can say about Bournival is that he has looked good in various positions (wing and centre), holding various responsibilities (first line or fourth and in between) and working with various linemates (the entire forward group).

        These are very positives attirbutes going forward, IMO.

        • Paz says:

          Like Gallagher, Bournival the rookie makes whatever line he’s on look good.

          • CJ says:

            I agree. He has made himself indispensable. Unfortunately, this is something that Leblanc has been unable to do.

          • Paz says:

            Oh Leblanc doesn’t have the speed. Leblanc was much quicker as a teenager. I saw him play his first Mdget AAA game and he was the fastest kid on the ice as a 15 yr old.

    • Habfan17 says:

      That is where I also think he would be best. In time, we may see Galchenyuk as the first line centre, Pleks, as the 2nd, and Bournival as the 3rd. That would mean Eller and DD are traded. With solid wingers, that would be pretty good, and there are a couple of centres who may challenge for a spot within 2 or 3 seasons, De La Rose and Vail.

      Habfan17

  34. Maritime Ronn says:

    habcertain says:
    …Where do we see PK going (for whom), if MT is still around, and who do you think can fill the void?
    —————–

    Most likely PK isn’t going anywhere…perhaps unless Nashville GM David Poile makes a call to GM Bergevin and says the following:

    :-)

    Poile Says:
    Hi Marc.
    My ownership can’t afford Shea Weber any more.
    His actual paycheque for the next 4 years is this:
    $14M-$14M-$12M-$12M.
    http://www.capgeek.com/player/1042

    The good news is that his Cap Hit is only $7.857M ( for the next 12 years) and you saw at the Olympics that he is one of the Premier Right Side Dmen for at least the next 7 years because he is only 28 (your guy isn’t)…and you KNOW Subban is going to cost you North of $8M/year for the next 8 years – whether you like it or not.

    You can save Cap Hit with Shea, my friend Marc.
    Come on Marc – 1 for 1.
    Subban for Weber.
    Great for everyone involved.

    You get 1 of the best all around Dmen in the NHL, and Nashville gets another stud Dman that will help fill the seats in my arena.
    I’ll have Seth Jones and PK, and you’ll have a Top 2 NHL Dman in your lineup for years to come.
    That’s the only way you’ll ever beat Boston or Pittsburgh for the next several years – it won’t be with Subban.

    Marc – We are in different Conferences, so no one will come back to haunt.
    ….and by the way, your owner Geoff Molson might like the deal to save him some money in the CBA Revenue Sharing Plan…..

    • Paz says:

      Agree with you. Subban for Weber makes sense.

      I think this is what Subban needs if Therrien is going to get another contract, and it certainly looks like Therrien will get one.

      Subban will draw a ton attention to the Predators and sell a ton of tickets.

    • habcertain says:

      OK Ronn, so the $8m question is, what are the odds of this happening?

      • Paz says:

        I mentioned it to my son yesterday. I think the Habs would do it in a second, it’s Nashville that would need convincing.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Slim to….the Gretzky trade I guess.
        Here’s wondering HOW much the Habs ownership/management/coaching staff actually believe PK will bring them to the promised land?

        What’s your take?

        • Paz says:

          I don’t think Therrien believes a dman like Subban takes him anywhere.

          There are coaches who have the patience for dmen who carry the puck, but these are the minority.

          Most coaches want the puck moving and the dmen back.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          It really comes down to what does MB think about PK.

        • habcertain says:

          to tell you the truth, it is certainly getting confusing. last year the guy was challenged, he sucked it up and won the Norris but has been cut no slack. other players make the same mistakes but are not publicly dragged out on the carpet as PK is. PK is the type of player, as most offensive d-men are, that gaffs are quite visibly but believe that the treatment that MT is offering is not building confidence. I’m not interested in a PK that is always playing it safe, and can live with the risk-reward. I think the upside potential is too great to ignore. that said, I think the lack of contract progress, or perceived lack, are indications that PK wants to ensure that this is the right place for him. it is no coincidence that other players are not progressing ( i.e. Chucky/Eller) as hoped. I would be extremely disappointed if he is moved, and while Weber would be a nice consultation prize, my spidy senses tells me all is not well. I think it is greater than your slim assessment, hope I’m wrong.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      I was thinking the other day that this actually makes some sense from Nashville’s viewpoint.

  35. Storm Man says:

    I have faith in the boys for Saturday just bet one of the rig hands that work for me 1K … They better win don’t need to see this guy in laffs gear for a week and I already pay him enough lol

  36. HammerHab says:

    Just realized that if Gionta & Markov aren’t in Habs jerseys next year that means Gorges is likely the next captain….

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    It’ll always be Habs Inside/Out to me

  37. B says:

    McCarron and the Knights vs Owen Sound tonight at 7:00 PM on Sportsnet.

    –Go Habs Go!–

    • The Juice says:

      Wow are Moore and his lawyer ever laying it on thick.

      Bottom line is the reason he never played another NHL game is because he was a fringe player to begin with. He is trying to use this incident to justify a payout equivalent to what a top 6 NHL forward would receive during his career. Fat chance.

      __________________________________________________________________________

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  38. Sportfan says:

    That article about the kiss cam was funny

    Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!
    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

  39. HabinBurlington says:

    So Mavid’s favourite Senaturd had a bit of a dustup with the Mule last night.

    http://kuklaskorner.com/tmr/comments/chris-neil-weighs-in-on-dust-up-with-franzen

    • Ron says:

      Wow, he’s a wacko. Pulls his helmet off him and brings his head to the glass on purpose.

    • CJ says:

      I saw that. Neil is one of, if not the biggest thorns in the league right now. Pretty tough pulling a stunt like that in a 6-1 game against a player who clearly has no interest in fighting.

      My favorite Neil moment was in Montreal when Carbo sent Laroque out in a 5-0 game (it was Remembrance Day a few years ago). Laroque talked to him for 30 seconds before the puck dropped and Neil stared straight ahead not even looking at Big George. Of course, within five seconds of the puck dropping he and Jarko Ruutu run Chris Higgins from behind and then try to fight Frankie Bouilion.

    • monmick says:

      That looks pretty bad, and is bush league if you ask me, but what the video doesn’t show is that Neil is retaliating against a stick to the nuts by Franzen. If you are going to do that intentionally, then I guess you need to expect anything in terms of retaliation…

      ~~~> Mathematically eliminated…

    • monmick says:

      … and Franzen has a history of this kind of behavior…

      http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-5K5Dc9uvi8

      ~~~> Mathematically eliminated…

  40. krob1000 says:

    Even Strength points PP points
    Pleks 25 9
    Gally 25 8
    MAxPac 25 14
    Gionta 24 6
    Dd 22 12
    Subban 20 19
    Eller 18 3
    Briere 17 4
    Galch 16 8
    Markov 16 17

    This shows how close all of the Habs are as far as offense goes just based on PP without showing matchups, ozone starts, 4 on 4 ,etc. As many have stated numerous times the production of the 3 centers i almost identical when favourable situations removed. Any “production” spread is mostly attributable to these situations.

    • Phil C says:

      Who is getting the favourable matchups? I suspect the DD line sees the other team’s top D pairing every game.

      • krob1000 says:

        They get all of the ozone starts, all of the shifts where a team is caught on an icing,etc. As for matchups….that is probably true for half of the games…they get the matchups for the home games though. Regardless…there is a 3 point diff between Eller and DD at 5 on 5. Eller brings a far more complete game as does Pleks.Now factor in linemates…I just can’t believe people claim that DD is some almighty point producer…in Montreal any one of Briere, Pleks, Chucky, Eller, PLeks could all produce similar numbers in a similar role..I am 100 percent convinced of that.D D has a reasonable contract and if not for the logjam at center I would have no issue…but I just can’t help but view him as in the way of the others…don;t get me wrong he is playing well and it is nothing against him…I just think the team would be better off with someone else in that role moving forward.

  41. habsfan0 says:

    Interesting poll question today.
    2 to 1 against MT.
    I hope he’s not easily offended.

  42. JUST ME says:

    Just heard P.K. on Nilan `s show. Guess what ? Much ado about nothing.
    He knows he went too far yesterday, knows what he deserves and if the coach decides to bench him it`s normal and o.k. Therrien is the boss and will never reply to authority.

    P.K. is honest enough to say that it will happen again cause he is confident in himself but makes mistakes and will make some more.

    So next subject please. As predicted habs so called fans made a big fuss about nothing.

    • habcertain says:

      PK has, and always, says the right thing, he is too well schooled by his smart agent, and has faced adverse reactions before. I read nothing into those comments other then he is a professional. I will let the contract negots determine where is head is, and the truth lies.

  43. lach60 says:

    Does anyone know anything about Nikolaj Ehlers and where he’s projected to go in the upcoming draft?

    He’s putting up some real good numbers with Halifax and he’s a Dane.

    • Luke says:

      So, I was looking at the team, but it wasn’t Nik who stood out.

      There’s a dude named Timo Meier on the team.

      Yup. A Timo. So he’s got that going for (or against) him.

      But he’s a Swiss defenseman, 16 years old at the start of the season (now 17), 6’0, 200lbs, and has 16 goals, 14 assists for 30 points in 60 games as a rookie.

      That’s impressive. Granted its the Mooseheads, so there is a bit of a Drouin factor.

    • scuba says:

      The kid can flat out fly. One of the best skaters I have ever seen in junior. He stepped right into MacKinnon’s roll and filled it very well. Also has a great shot and plays both ends of the rink well. Knock is size as he is 5’11” and looks very skinny on the ice even though he plays much tougher and is hard to knock off the puck.

      I wouldn’t be surprised to see him to move up into the top ten come draft day. Right now ranked as a mid first round guy but just keeps getting better. How he does in the play-offs will say alot about where he is drafted I would imagine.

  44. Lafleurguy says:

    Looks like only Pacioretty, Plekanec, and Gallagher will be the only 3 to top 20 goals.

  45. The Jackal says:

    So what’s the deal with DD now?
    The guy’s been on fire since he broke out of that slump and his line is the only consistent line. I’d like to think we have more talent in the roster to roll another line that is a scoring threat, and we do. Why does everyone seem to assume that DD would be the number one guy? He’s fine in a second line role with Pacioretty – we know that Galchenyuk will be #1 so it’s not like DD is going to sink the good ship Habs.

    The problem with the forwards is not that we have DD, it’s that we have too many of the same players and not enough Gallaghers. Ship out the older guys and inconsistent guys and bring in new blood at forward. If the DD line continues to produce as it does, and we get another top 6 line to produce equally or better, then could we honestly say that DD needs to go?

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    • lach60 says:

      No I don’t even know why people believe he should go now. The Habs aren’t paying him as a 1st line centre, on the lower average of a 2nd line centre at best. I agree if the Habs can get another line of a couple 5 million dollar guys to produce the heat should come off of him but who knows, people are pretty stuck in their ways when it comes to him.

      Imagine if Gionta (5M) was putting up 25-30 goals. It would make a huge difference to that top 6 to have 2 lines producing goals.

    • formerly known as the hc says:

      I wish it was that easy. Unfortnately teams gunning for a cup run don’t load up on undersized, under skilled underachievers.

  46. habcertain says:

    Where do we see PK going (for whom), if MT is still around, and who do you think can fill the void?

  47. Forum Dog says:

    Assuming MB makes no significant moves before the deadline – and assuming that Markov puts his name on a contract for next year – Habs are looking at a situation where Murray, Bouillion, Gionta and Parros are the only UFAs who walk.

    The former two were brought in as stop-gaps until the kids were ready. Two of them (Beaulieu and Tinordi) look like they are pretty much ready now, and will definitely be by next training camp. If Leblanc isn’t ready for a third-line role next year, he may never be. At least as a Hab. Pateryn is kind of like that as well, though I figure he’ll find a spot.

    So the defence is looking pretty much set, and there is actually some redundancy there (i.e. don’t need all of Gorges, Emelin, Tinordi, Beaulieu, Pateryn). There may be one or two forward prospects capable of surprising, but it is unlikely.

    Most of Gio’s money is going to go to Subban, and if Markov stays there will be no savings there. Emelin’s salary goes up by $2M next year and Eller will probably get a short-term raise, so without even making a move the Habs cap number will be roughly the same.

    All to say that while the D and goaltending positions look solid, there is still a dearth of top-six forward talent. At this point in the team’s development I think it would be bad policy to trade either of Tinordi or Beaulieu, and I’m not sure what the market for someone like Gorges is. Probably not great, especially with his contract term and hit. Emelin could potentially be moved instead of Gorges (especially if Markov were to walk), but there would be similar issues in terms of his trade value.

    Dunno, just my thoughts as we head toward the deadline. I haven’t seen any names trotted out in the media that should be on the Habs radar for the longer term, and while a rental could help during this years playoffs, I’m beginning to think that Bergevin will be content to just get in and let the cards fall where they may. He can use the summer to upgrade the forward ranks. Best to make those types of manouvers when the pressure isn’t so extreme.

    Looking forward to the next week. It always ends up being over blown, but the speculation is fun regardless.

  48. Maritime Ronn says:

    The HIO threads have had a lot of attention paid towards Lars Eller and his performance regression…and whether or not he can ever become a legitimate Top 6.

    Eller was never ‘quick’, yet it appears he has looked somewhat less quick and slower this year vs. the end of last year.

    Here’s wondering if this is part of the problem.
    From an HIO article last August 2013:
    ————
    ” Lars Eller is bigger and plans to be better when the Canadiens hit the ice for the 2013-14 season.

    The Gazette’s Dave Stubbs reports that Eller, who was listed at 201 pounds in last season’s team guide, is now 220 pounds – and not a gram of the weight anything but muscle.
    —————
    This is a 24 year old athlete that added a huge 10% of body weight in a short period of time, to what would be considered an already incredibly fit body.

    Is that part of the problem?
    Who monitored the weight gain program, and did it have approval of both Habs management and its team of highly skilled athletic staff

  49. krob1000 says:

    I was really expecting a trade to come today….not from the Habs but something …

  50. habs_54321 says:

    are we going to clear the logjam at center this trade deadline? briere has proven he still has some juice. are we keeping him or moving him? if we keep him can we assume Eller is out?

  51. Habcouver says:

    Hey, dd you see the #1 tweet at Sochi?
    Gotta see it:
    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/top-10-nhl-tweets-of-the-month-february-sochi-edition/

    We Are (Not) All Canucks.
    Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

  52. Timo says:

    Not liking Price being injured. Not liking Therrien still being the coach.

    Saturday night in Mtl, against the laffs, on national TV, no Price. Boy, can probability of winning get any lower?

  53. knob says:

    Does anyone know what the time line on Prust’s return is?

  54. JUST ME says:

    Ah yes ! Hio is so good to put a poll question to keep the hatred alive ! HIO negative ? nnnnnaaaaaahhh

    Not ashamed and afraid to say that my answer is a big yes.I am just a fan he is paid to do the job,results are there, he has the players he has,cannot make filet mignon with groud beef….I can read in the future and say that whoever takes his place eventually will receive the same treatment from HIO and expert fans so…

  55. DipsyDoodler says:

    OK the poster’s username was VeganPete. Surprised no one realized.

  56. habs11s says:

    I think Brad Boyes will be playing in Pitts after the deadline. He seems like a good fit to replace Pascal Dupuis.

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    “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

  57. CHicoHab says:

    I’m hoping if and once we are a play off team that we can have a decent showing. The last time we won a round was the 2009/2010 season. 2nd round against last nights foes in 7 games. This team shows it can compete and with a Gold Medal goalie can make some noise if we add a few guys to the roster. The proper trade or three is needed in order to get us into at least round 3. By then anything is possible.

    “take your time and hurry up”

  58. Hobie Hansen says:

    I’m hearing the Canadiens have made calls to the agents of Pat Jablonski, Jeff Hackett, Jocelyn Thibault, David Aebischer and Ronnie “Tugboat” Tugnutt to inquire about their availability in case Carey Price is done for the season. Not a good sign.

  59. Habcouver says:

    I’m hoping Parros keeps his point streak alive Saturday.

    We Are (Not) All Canucks.
    Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

  60. DipsyDoodler says:

    Anyone else worried about Price’s injury?

  61. Habilis says:

    Price out for Saturday. If you’re Mike Therrien, do you give Tokarski a shot?

    Given the way Budaj played last night, I say yes. Seriously doubt it happens though. If MT has proven anything, it’s that the vet starts over the kid every time and twice on Saturdays.

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      I’d like to see Tokarski get a shot at some point. Not sure a huge divisional game on Saturday night is the best spot to put him in though. But while he’s up, I think it’d be great to give him a chance and see what we’ve got in him. He has some great non-NHL pedigree.

      • Habilis says:

        Yeah good point. I was thinking it would be best to play him against the Leafs because they are the “easiest” team that we face in the next 7 days, the others being LA, Anaheim, Phoenix and SJ.

        But yeah, this is a huge game and Budaj probably gives us the best chance to win.

        Mostly, I’m just not very confident with Budaj for extended periods. Price has totally spoiled me.

    • Luke says:

      Interestingly enough, I was pondering this as a ‘what if?’ today.

      I’m rather consertvative when it comes to stuff like this, but for whatever reason, I am in favour of it.

      Throw him to the wolves and see if he sinks or swims in this trial by baptismal fire.

      • Habilis says:

        For me it was more “He can’t play worse than Budaj did last night” than anything. I don’t know much about Tokarski but I do know he’s been one of the best AHL goalies this season. To me, that is deserving of a real game.

        Thinking about it rationally though, Budaj is probably the best bet. He’s obviously the safer bet anyhow, and I think MT will chose safe over risky every single time.

        • Luke says:

          Yah, its a ‘four pointer’ and makes sense.

          But now we’ll be deprived of the rookie coming out of nowhere to win the Cup and Conn Smythe the year before he wins the Calder.

          drat.

        • The Juice says:

          “I think MT will chose safe over risky every single time.”

          Notwithstanding when he started Budaj over Price vs. the Bruins before the break..

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    • JUST ME says:

      Euh…the title of this thread says it all doesn`t it ? Why come back on it ?
      Budaj is the man ! Yesterday one can say that he had an off day but still he was one goal better that Fleury.
      I trust Budaj to keep it close and that guys do not play the same way in front of him as they do with Price. They seem to tighten things up more although it did not show yesterday …

    • jimmy shaker says:

      Given the way he played last night, I say Budaj deserves the crease. Yes he let in two softies, but he battled through that and really played well after the first period. And to boot, he was lights out in the shoot out. No problem giving him the net until Pricer is ready to get in there.

      shaker out!

  62. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Kesler is exactly the type of player we need, but if I understand correctly, one of the main reasons he wants to be traded is to go to the States, so I think we can count ourselves out.

    Kesler and Pleks would be a great punch down the middle though: skilled, but great defensively.

    Whatever moves, if any, MB makes better be geared towards getting scoring though. We’re set on the back end for the time being and the future, I feel. We need scoring in a bad way.

    • Habcouver says:

      Kess carried this team over the past years. Amidst his injuries, it would appear he is getting tired and needs a change of scenery. He may deny it to the end, but I believe Louis Jean’s claim is accurate.

      We Are (Not) All Canucks.
      Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

  63. jimmy shaker says:

    Was browsing TSN trade tracker and read that minnesota is interested in miller, now I know harding is hurt at the moment and his future is unclear based on his MS, but what is going on with backstrom? I think miller’s destinations are either washington or pittsburgh.

    Shaker out!

  64. habs001 says:

    If the roster stays the same the Habs in the playoffs to win will look more like Latvia vs Canada than Canada vs Sweden…worked a few years ago vs Washington…But the type of play the Habs have they can easily pull another Ottawa type series in the first round….Reality is that we are happy that the Habs have 3/4 points but if this was playoff they would be down one game and still playing in overtime lol…

  65. Luke says:

    Oh, yah. Despite all the DD/Eller/PK/MT discussion… I’d just like to say:

    Wow. That Olli Matta is something else.

    Heck of a player Pittsburgh has there.

  66. Dr.Rex says:

    IF the Habs wanted one piece that would drastically improve their playoff chances this year then that player would be Kesler. Perfect fit for a team that lacks a little toughness and desire up front.

    OF course the Habs would have to give up some youth and the price would be tough to swallow at first.

    Vancouver would ask for Eller, TInordi and 1st rd 2014.
    They would be looking to replace Kesler with a younger center and Gillis has always had his eyes on Tiny.

  67. DipsyDoodler says:

    Started a new thread minutes after I dropped my bombshell.

    Coincidence?

  68. HABSGUARDIANANGEL says:

    Of course you keep Markov, habs have the cap room, in the off season we should get another top 2 d-man!!

    keep the best possible defencemen playing in front of Price, If you have 4 all star deman playing the entire game, you win. ;)

  69. Psycho29 says:

    FINALLY! A new thread, we can change the subject from Therrien, Subban…..

    ;-)

  70. CJ says:

    Rene Lavoie has confirmed that it will be Budaj tomorrow against the Leafs. Price remains out.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Thanks CJ. Boods had an off night last night but made some huge saves when it really counted.

      • Habcouver says:

        I do not think any less of Boods letting in the first two goals yesterday. It happens to the best of goalies. Focussing on the positives and end result, he made key saves to preserve the W… especially in the shoot out.

        We Are (Not) All Canucks.
        Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

        • CJ says:

          I certainly don’t think any less of him either. I think sometimes people (not you) confuse what is said during a game as an overall opinion on a player. For example, I thought Budaj had a terrible first period. That does not mean that I think he is terrible. He fought the puck last night, but overall he has provided very sound goaltending from the back up position. Considering his salary, I think its not a stretch to suggest that we have one of the better backups in the league. That is very high praise.

      • CJ says:

        He was very shaky in the first. I will be the first to say that I was wrong to have suggested that he get pulled. Personally, I didn’t (don’t) think that you can spot a great offensive team like Pittsburgh 2 freebies, but fortunately the boys made our chances count and showed a lot of character rallying back. I thought overall Budaj had an off night, but as you suggested he made the stops in the end, and that was the difference between 1 and 2 points.

        I fully expect both he and Bernier to rebound and play much, much better on Saturday night.

  71. shiram says:

    You know who always responds to being sent to the 4th line?
    Danny Brière.
    It would have been interesting to see how he would have done if he had the coach’s trust from the get go, with a regular top 9 role.

    • CJ says:

      He responds when playing centre, his natural position. Unfortunately there is a log jam at the position right now. It will be interesting to see if the log jam remains following the trade deadline.

      • shiram says:

        He’s had a good number of games where he contributed while playing winger, with Pleky and Gio, mostly.

        • CJ says:

          I see it a little differently. He still hasn’t added that many points. In those games where he contributes, he often adds multiple points. Off the top of my head, I recall three games in which he has had three points. Those nine points are nearly fifty percent of his total production. He only has 21 points on the season.

          • shiram says:

            He’s 17th on the team for total time on ice, and 9th for points.
            Or if you wanna do only forwards, 11th for total time on ice and 7th for points.
            In the context of a team that barely produces, with the time given, and considering he had a concussion and time to adjust to a new team, I think he’s done quite well.

          • Habcouver says:

            I confess to being somewhat of a Briere naysayer. However, he appears to being productive for the ice time he’s given. He seems to do the little things right. I am just anxious to see if he will be the true playoff guy that we are expecting him to be.

            Also he seems like quite a nice guy with good family values.

            We Are (Not) All Canucks.
            Proudly Canadian but passionately Canadien!

          • CJ says:

            Good points regarding Briere. Is that not a greater indicment on our other forwards though. I like Briere. I hope he lights it up in the playoffs. That said, for $4 million this season and next, 21 points is not going to do it.

          • habcertain says:

            I think for the amount of TOI he has produced as well as can be expected, even in games where he was performing well, MT has not elongated his ice time and sat him on the bench in the 3rd many times.

  72. Just A Guy says:

    So has MT been fired yet?

  73. Habitant in Surrey says:

    :)

    …Thanks for responding Scotland, because, o boy, You exemplify My point to the ‘T’ :)

  74. Thomas Le Fan says:

    I tend to agree. I think this team generally wins despite their coach not because of him.

    Hockey isn’t everything … it’s the only thing … except for beer and guitars!

  75. D Man says:

    Zactly!

    You can’t be both a Habs and a Leafs fan

  76. Hobie Hansen says:

    Why wouldn’t he? With no Zetterberg the Habs probably had a better chance if they could get through OT and into the shootout. He feels confident in the shootout. Did you see the Pittsburgh game by chance?

  77. DipsyDoodler says:

    Against Pitts shots were 5-0 for us in OT.

  78. Mr. Biter says:

    Neither Murray and Tinordi ( Emelin)or Weiss and yes Parros were playing last year vs the Sens and they used their size to beat us down. We have gotten bigger (something many posters don’t seem to realize) and tougher from last year. Ryder did squat in playoffs and that is where DannyB is supposed to shine (only time will tell).

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory


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