Habs 1992-93 season flashback: Big road win over Sharks


As we wait and hope for an end to the NHL lockout, Canadiens fans can relive the 1992-93 season – the last year the Habs won the Stanley Cup – at HIO as we post game stories from that season.

The Habs took a 23-14-4  record into a game against the San Jose Sharks on Jan. 4, 1993 in Sacramento, Calif. Below is Red Fisher’s story from that game:

Habs regain lead in Adams



SACRAMENTO – Canadiens general manager Serge Savard is thankful for little mercies – but he’s got a long memory.

“It’s not so bad,” said Savard after last night’s paper-thin 4-1 victory over the San Jose Sharks. “We’ve got five points out of a possible 10 on this trip, and we could end up with seven out of 12. We’re back on top in the Adams.

“What still bothers me, though, is losing the last two games at home. You don’t lose games at home to Hartford and the New York Islanders. You don’t play at home the way we played against those two teams,” he said.

Last night’s game was the first time Savard has watched his gang that can’t shoot straight since the team left on its six-game road trip, which winds up tonight against the Sharks in San Francisco. His best moment, no doubt, came in the eighth minute of the final period when Mathieu Schneider lifted the Canadiens into the lead for the first time with a wraparound goal. Until then, though, it was tight-collar time, which loosened late in the period on goals by Stephan Lebeau and Kirk Muller.

Savard insists he wasn’t bothered by what he saw only hours after arriving in Sacramento, which may be true. On the other hand, whatever it was he was watching wasn’t a cause for celebration from time to time – particularly when it’s noted that the teams went into the third period locked up 1-1.

The Sharks had opened the scoring with a shorthanded goal from Neil Wilkinson late in the first period. On the other hand, only 3:01 remained in the second when the Canadiens finally got their goal from Vincent Damphousse.

Before and between goals, it’s imagined Savard was left dismayed now and then – largely because of scoring chances gone thataway.

What, for example, was he thinking when Kirk Muller missed an open side of the net with a backhander during a power play early in the first?

What went through his mind when Schneider rang one off the post in the 16th minute and again a little more than a minute later while the Canadiens were in the process of outshooting the Sharks 13-3?

At least half of the Canadiens’ first-period shots came during the first two of three Sharks’ penalties – the only minors assessed by referee Denis Morel in the period. So what was Savard’s reaction when the period’s only goal, Wilkinson’s first of the season, came while the Sharks were killing off their third penalty?

Pat Falloon and Wilkinson, who hadn’t scored since the final game of last season, made it look easy. It ended with Cement Hands Wilkinson racing in alone on Andre Racicot and flipping the puck beyond him.

It was San Jose’s fourth – and last shot – of the period.

“Their goaltender played well,” said Savard. “I know we missed a few, but he took away at least a couple.”

Savard has that right. Jeff Hackett, who was a major-league problem for the Canadiens in two of the three games involving the teams last season, was splendid during the first two periods. His work was rooted in excellence while his colleagues were being out- gunned 24-12, but some of the Canadiens’ problems were self- inflicted.

Good shooters don’t miss empty nets. Teams with a scoring touch don’t miss as many opportunities as the Canadiens did among the 36 shots they delivered.

Why can’t they shoot straight, Savard must have wondered. As straight, for example, as Todd Ewen, whose shot struck Hackett on the mask and bent its iron bars, opening a two-stitch cut on the San Jose goaltender’s forehead.

Trouble is, Ewen’s shot was delivered several seconds after time had expired in the second period.

(Photo by Marcos Townsend/The Gazette)


  1. The Jackal says:

    What a BS goal to end the game. Russia got lucky, they were sweating bullets and barely managed to stay alive in the third. Totally lucked out. They didn’t even deserve to be in the medal rounds AT ALL!
    Hopefully Sweden wins so we don’t have to deal with the US winning gold, that’s the real apocalypse right there.

    Not all oysters produce pearls, thankfully, Price is a pearl producing oyster.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      If by lucky you mean a big forward skated circles around a canadian dman after the other dman made a poor choice on going for steal then sure.

      Otherwise, the goal itself was a nice play by the kid.

    • BJ says:

      I thought the goal was a good one and as it often happens close miss at one end is the nail in the coffin at the other. Murphy looked like Weber getting out skated and muscled by Ovechkin.

    • that forward controlling the play blew by our defense with speed and skill, then Subban’s horrible lateral made it easy for him to score. We all love that play as forwards becasue it opens the goalie up and makes for easy goals.

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  2. BJ says:

    First medal miss in 14 years. Oh well, next year. Next is Galchenyuk vs Colberg for the HIO game. Just saw the taunting by the Russians, a bit low life.

  3. HabinBurlington says:

    Okay time for a nap then backup to watch Gally versus Goalberg.

  4. twilighthours says:

    In the end, Canada’s D just wasn’t good enough.

  5. HabinBurlington says:

    Ryan Murphy and Morgan Rielly, not exactly a pairing that breathes defence, that is a scary and deadly combo the wrong way.

  6. Habs_4_ever says:


    “Leave the gun, take the cannoli.”

  7. BJ says:

    Good effort. Nice goal by a can’t miss NHL’er.

  8. twilighthours says:

    Pretty exciting game.

  9. BJ says:

    OT. Exciting game.

  10. BJ says:

    Beats the hell out of a defensive game.

  11. BJ says:

    It would be nice to get the last one to make up for last years 6-5 bummer.

  12. HabinBurlington says:

    wooooohoooooo tie game!

  13. BJ says:

    Yakupov gets his second of the game. We are down 1.

  14. BJ says:

    I see Hudon is back from his injury at the World Juniors with his team in the Q. First game back 2 goals and 1 assist.

  15. BJ says:

    As I was writing that Grigorenko does look very good he draws a penalty. We need to kill this one starting the third.

  16. BJ says:

    Yes fourth power play goal.

  17. HabinBurlington says:

    Okay, I gotta believe Timo loves Ryan Murphy, this kid is all offence. MAB Lite!

  18. HabinBurlington says:

    Are International Ice Officials not allowed to move broken sticks out of the way? All tournament seems once a stick is broken it remains in the middle of play forever!

  19. BJ says:

    4-3 Russia. The D will have to be re-thought next year.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      And another penalty away from the play, these selfish physical hits away from puck reak of zero discipline. During those exhibition games, players needed to be benched and taught that these penalties are not acceptable. I don’t get it….

  20. BJ says:

    Yes! 3-3. 3 PP goals.

  21. BJ says:

    Good time to tie it up, PP coming up.

  22. Bottom line. If you can’t well in your own end, you are not going to win. Too many offensive players who have no clue how to play in their own end.

    How starved for hockey are we? Getting up at 3am every morning for two weeks for this? Lord if you aren’t going to block the puck, then get out of the way. If the kitchen is full of their players, clear them out.

    If they have two players on every one of out forwards then we need three over there, or spead out the ice.

    Bah Humbug, my peewee team plays three games in Holland today, we leave at 9am, I’m more excited abiouot that than this game right now and no it’s Holland,MB coldest rink on earth.


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  23. BJ says:

    Subban keeps it close. Otherwise we are down 5 or 6-2.

  24. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …okay, curiousity got the better of Me …I watched the first period, but have to sleep zzzzzz

    …at least, like BJ is inferring,I can go to sleep satisfied that Binnington has shown M. Subban WAS the logical choice to be Our number one, and was NOT the reason We were drubbed by the US

    …wish I can stay awake to cheer these kids on, but zzzzzzzzz I can’t …can’t miss Henri 🙂

    …night Guys

    …Go Canada !!!

  25. BJ says:

    One thing is clear as a French commentator noted, Yakupov is no Bure more like Afinogenov, I agree. I’m glad Galchenyuk turned out to be our pick.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I heard Ferraro say same thing a few days back. I am not sure I write off Yakupov yet, but he certainly hasn’t dominated in any fashion at these World Championships. Grigorenko looks pretty good though. I am very happy we got Galchenyuk.

  26. BJ says:

    Gotta kill this one so we stay in this one. Time for a shorthanded goal.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Crazy how as soon as either team puts any pressure in opposing zone immediate lazy/selfish penalties follow. Neither team seems to know how to defend.

      All offence no Defence this morning.

  27. BJ says:

    I wonder if we get the next one if Russia brings in their Subban.

  28. HabinBurlington says:

    Another PP goal for Canada. Credit to MacKinnon for drawing penatly. Ryan Murphy (MAB Lite) point shot rebound Huberdeau.

  29. BJ says:

    Just had a scary thought. Imagine if Nugent-Hopkins had not been on this team.

  30. HabinBurlington says:

    I’m not sure Canada has won a faceoff yet.
    Okay we won one in the neutral zone….

  31. BJ says:

    Its official he’s in.

  32. HabinBurlington says:

    Holy Cow, brutal goal, long shot, partial screen and welcome back Subban. Yikes…. 3-1 Russia 12mins to play in first.

  33. BJ says:

    Riga, Riga. Someone wake him up to let him know Subban may be coming back in.

  34. BJ says:

    A ten spott he’s not behind a maple leaf bench again unless its blue and white.

  35. HabinBurlington says:

    Deja Vous all over again!

    A weak goal early, followed by selfish penalty and bang down 2-0.

    Okay pp goal Canada, NugentHopkins snipes the corner. Lets Go Canada!

  36. HabinBurlington says:

    Appears Steve Spott has his JM line jumbler machine working today. Schiefele down to 2nd line, Drouin and MacKinnon seperated again.

  37. Habitant in Surrey says:

    BRITISH COLUMBIA HABS FANS: please note: Henri Richard is here !!! 🙂 http://www.centralcity.ca/henri-richard-autograph-event/

    Certral City, Pastime Sports & Games and Central City Brewing Co present:

    NHL Hall of Famer and eleven time Stanley Cup winner (an NHL record as a player) Henri Richard is coming to Pastime Sports & Games at Central City (Surrey Central Mall). Don’t miss your chance to get his autograph!

    Date: Saturday, January 5, 2013.
    Time: 1pm – 3pm

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

    Campaign to Retire Toe Blake’s Number 6 !!!

    Bring Back Boone, and send Hickey to Hamilton !!!

    …and, last, but not least: Go Canada !!!

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …He and Jacques Plante My boyhood Habs Heroes

      …I guess it’s an understatement to state I’m more than a tad excited 🙂

      …Quentin will be there with His Habs Sweater …and, I not far behind 🙂

      …for anyOne of You that gives a rat’s ass, I wore number 16 as a goalie during My playing dayz 🙂

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Enjoy Christopher, your son will enjoy watching his fathers face as he gets to see his boyhood hero. CHeers man!

        • Habitant in Surrey says:

          …Gerald, regretfully might have to pass watching Canada/Russia, as will be struggle waking up in time …also taking the kids for flu-shots before going to Surrey Central

          …anyhow, hope the kids on Team Canada find some salvation winning a bronze …really We put a lot of unreasonable pressure on these kids every year …but, that’s part of the facts of life being Canadian …Go Canada !!!

  38. HabinBurlington says:

    Good Morning Hockey Fans across the nation, I can’t believe I am up at 330 in the morning to watch a bronze medal game. I am guessing I have missed my Habs hockey so far this winter….

  39. Marc10 says:

    You have to figure the Dogs will get a big boost in performance when the Skinners and Eberles return to the NHL. Some of those teams flying high right now are going to find it much tougher going when they lose their stars.

  40. Timo says:

    Reading comments about Bulldogs, seems like Lefebfre was a great coaching choice. Can’t wait for Therrien to woo and wow us.

  41. Bozo McBozo says:

    Looking ahead to smoking the Swedes tomorrow am in the WJC. But I have to admit, I think Team Canada’s lack of success falls on the coaching staff. Watching the Canada/US game in the round robin, it was kinda obvious that Subban was money if he could see the puck. Phil Housley told his charges to get in his face when it mattered and he was hung out to dry.

  42. ProHabs says:

    Can’t wait for the union to blow itself up. The elimination of 6 teams at least and the Habs can just spend and spend on talent. They will return to dominating the league. No more parity. No more spending to a cap. Habs can spend as much as they want to get some decent players in Montreal. Our fourth line will be better than our first line of the last 15 years. It will be the way it is suppose to be.

    No more getting excited for marginal talent like Kristo, Leblanc, Palushaj, etc. to make the team. Montreal can just go out and sign established stars to play on the team. THere are brighter days ahead folks. When the union blows itself up, we can start to celebrate.

    I really really dislike Reggie Houle for trading Patrick Roy.

  43. Mark C says:

    Kristo with a goal and assist.
    Macmillion with an assist.
    Dietz with a goal and assist.
    Vail with two helpers.

  44. frontenac1 says:

    Great conversation with Rejean Tremblay and Stephan Richer on TVA now.

  45. Ron says:

    Nice win by the youngsters, played more as a team tonight. Looks like the move of exiting Nash from the lot has shaken up the mix. Only time will tell, only game one. Alot of tough games coming up in the schedule.

  46. Harditya says:

    Fortier scores and makes it 3-1 Dogs. Mayer has been good tonight stopping 35 of 36 shots.

  47. frontenac1 says:

    Since I saw Dumont dust Colbourn, I like him. I like “Sweet Hands “Blunden too.The youngsters need more seasoning.It is a young team ,patience amigos.

  48. Ron says:

    Wow what a deflection by Dumont. 2-1 Dogs

    • Harditya says:

      Like I said earlier, this kid is finally breaking out. Hope he keeps this up, then he is bound to be an NHL player.

      • Ron says:

        Most likely a 4th liner but a good one.

      • commandant says:

        Dumont doesn’t have the talent to be a top line player and is too small to be an effective 4th line player for the this team IMO.

        With Desharnais, Gionta, and Pleks in the top 6; and possibly Gallagher down the road, tHe Habs really need more size out of their fourth line centre than Dumont can provide.

        I just hope he can be a top liner for the Dogs and help them right now.

        Go Habs Go!
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        • Ron says:

          I guess the cards will play out and we will see. A fourth line filler on call up is not out of the question.

          • commandant says:

            A filler? Sure.

            A long term fourth line centre? On another NHL team maybe, but with the makeup over our club right now, I don’t think it can be a permanent solution.

            Go Habs Go!
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        • Harditya says:

          You make a good point, commandant. Yes, if anything he can help improve those around him. However I don’t see Gionta re-signing with the Habs after his contract expires and I wonder if one of Pleky or Desharnais would be moved once Galchenyuk breaks into the league. Perhaps size won’t be an issue heading forwards. Either way, I guess Bournival would make a more effective 3rd/4th line center with his style of play.

        • 24 Cups says:

          Commandant – Exactly. I give Dumont his due but he’s just too small. Sorry.

  49. Mark C says:

    Hudon with two goals and a helper, someone should still be in Russia…

  50. jols101 says:

    Bournival does everything right except put the puck in the back of the net. Tough luck.

    • Ron says:

      Gallagher is getting thrown off the puck quite easily by the bigger D.

      • jols101 says:

        He sure is. If there is a season and the injury bug hits, like it always does, I don’t think the first call up should be LL or Gallagher, the way Dumont is playing it should be him for sure.

        • Ron says:

          They have too look at Blunden as well. He has been playing well and has some speed.

          • jols101 says:

            You may be right. I think you watch more Bulldog’s games then I do. The last game I watched was Dumont’s 5 point night and now in this game he has a goal and an assist so he looks very impressive to me but I do not watch them every game.

  51. jols101 says:

    That Bolland guy can really throw them.

  52. Ron says:

    Storts lucky to stay up in that tilt..

  53. Harditya says:

    Bulldogs haven’t scored a goal in 10 periods now. That’s 200 minutes. That is beyond pathetic. I understand this year is bound to be tough for all the young rookies, but as a team that is just unacceptable.

  54. Mavid says:

    tied!! What a bullet .and right at the zero mark…

  55. jols101 says:

    There was no time on the clock when that crossed the line. Oh well, Bulldogs finally get one after 9 periods and 19 minutes and 59.9 seconds…

    • Harditya says:

      Yes finally, that was one pathetic stretch.

      • jols101 says:

        Agreed. Young team or not, they should never go almost 200 minutes without scoring. Glad that is over.

        • Harditya says:

          Dumont finally seems to be breaking out after 2 years in Hamilton. Hopefully he develops into a NHL player, he put up solid numbers in the Quebec league.

          • commandant says:

            Dumont doesn’t have the talent to be a top line player and is too small to be an effective 4th line player for the this team IMO.

            With Desharnais, Gionta, and Pleks in the top 6; and possibly Gallagher down the road, tHe Habs really need more size out of their fourth line centre than Dumont can provide.

            Go Habs Go!
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  56. Mavid says:

    Bulldogs are on TVAHD 1883 (Bell) still 1-0

  57. Ron says:

    Less than 2 mins in and Dogs down 1-0 to Rockford. Mayers in net

  58. Mark C says:

    Nice to see Hudon is back in the lineup tonight.

  59. B says:

    Only 2 days this time for the players to vote their support for a DOI, less than half the 5 days time they felt they needed for the last vote.

    –Go Habs Go!–

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Two days is plenty to vote M. B, Hope the league does not call the P.A’s bluff. Never know which way it will go once the courts get involved.
      This is all NUTS from both sides, get the game and fun back into the game, or are these days all over! GAME NO MORE!

  60. habstrinifan says:

    Politics anyone????

    Anyone who has had any dealings with the Federal government(actually any level of government) knows that the push to semi-privatize many government services (usually by conservative small government protagonists) very often results in the government paying ‘contractors’ much much more for those services.

    Look at this link. There are other interesting revelations but ….


  61. Haborama says:

    @Frontenac1: since Chartraw was there, is it reasonable to assume that Langway and/or Shutt were also present?

    I’ve heard somewhere that the crescent street joints were frequented by the Anglophone players back in the day………..

    • frontenac1 says:

      The Flower loved Thursdays amigo. He and Trudeau loved the joint and Saturday nights were magic when they were there. As for the West-End ,in the late 70″s,Station 10, Danny Yoakum,Glen Weir, Bob Gainey ,Murray Wilson,Chartraw ,The Road Runner and many more was the place to start the night. Magic my friend. Disco Fever all the way.

  62. 24 Cups says:

    What a senseless play by a player who has no sense or discipline.


    January 4, 2013 at 4:10 pm(Edit)

    I just watched that Reinhart slash:


    I never finished watching the Canada vs US game I PVR’d it and fast forwarded it and missed this.

    He got four games which I personally think is fair for such stupidity. Why Canada is appealing it is beyond me

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Agree with both of you. Barbaric comes to mind.


    • commandant says:

      It looked almost accidental to me to be honest.

      I understand you need to control your stick, and I think that 5 minute penalties in this situation or even a couple game suspension is fair, but I’m not sure that he deserves 4 games to be honest.

      I don’t see the intent there.

      Go Habs Go!
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      • 24 Cups says:

        My take is he hacked him out of frustration. Even if he didn’t have intent the penalty still needs to be the same.

        If we’re going to clean up the game there can’t be any exceptions to the rule. The only rule is zero tolerance.

  63. tippytoes says:

    What the Bulldogs need is an established AHL veteran that can put up points. This would help give the young forwards confidence and help them with their own point production. Its too bad Gefferion and Pejusai are not around.

  64. Haborama says:

    Judging by Galchenyuk’s performance in the world juniors, is it unreasonable to suggest that he might need one more full seson in Sarnia??

    • DLHABSNUT65 says:

      No, not really but 8 points in 6 games isn’t too bad considering he’s not getting alot of ice time!! This guy has scored 13 goals in his last 9 games with the Sting!! He seems to be doing better as the season goes along!! That said, that doesn’t mean he’ll be as successful at the next level!!

    • Mark C says:

      Exceptionally unreasonable for many reasons. Most importantly we’re half a year and a full offseason away from next season. A lot can change and odds are Gally will be a lot better next fall than he is today.

  65. HabsWinn-ipeg says:

    Anyone else have a bit of a desire to see the season cancelled so we can see some teams contracted/moved and an end to stupid contracts designed to circumvent the salary cap?

    • habsfaninboston says:

      I’m with you. No desire to see a 48 game season. Let both sides fester for a while and start anew this fall.

    • habstrinifan says:

      My head says cancel the damn season! My un-interesting life says PLEASE PLEASE play hockey soon! I wanna see a Subban rush and Gallagher with the big club and Eller coming into his own and Therrien’s strategy.. and Markov and Prust and Armstrong and.. and … and … and. See what I mean about uninteresting life.

      But I am also really disillusioned with it all too. So if the HABS play and suck like last year or play anything akin to JM’s system I am gonna do something CNN worthy!

  66. habs001 says:

    Hopefully the Bulldogs can improve the second half of the season as the first half has not been too good….I know they are a young team but many of the other teams have players in the same age group(born 91-92) ,,,Hamilton has 3 to 4 more…Most of the older players on other teams are career ahl players…Its disappointing to be in last place in points , goals scored and about 28th in goals given up in a 30 team league…the top scorer on the team is 117th …While early it looks like the d has more players with Nhl potential than the forwards…

    • Mark C says:

      Would challenge you to find other AHL teams that share such a discrepancy between extremely young talented players and older mediocre players. The bulldogs only have two useful players 25 or older in Blunden and Desjardins. 8 of the top 10 scorers on the bulldogs are 22 or younger.

      • commandant says:

        Exactly right Mark. The disparity with a team like the Marlies is easily seen. Ryan Hamilton, Keith Aucoin, Mike Zigomanis, Mark Fraser, Paul Ranger, Mike Kostka, Dylan Yeo, even Ben Scrivens is 26. Simon Gysbers, Will Acton, Matt Frattin all 25 now.

        Its no wonder they manhandle the Bulldogs.

        Go Habs Go!
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        • Mark C says:

          Huge difference between those names and Boyce, Hagel, Stortini, Commodore, and St. Denis. I have only issues with the Bulldogs struggles, just keep playing the kids and let them improve.

      • B says:

        At the start of the season, Binghamton had the youngest AHL team average age (23.01). They are doing well. Portland is also doing well and they started the season with the same average age as Hamiltion (23.02). The article below also shows that at the start of the season the most common AHL player age was 22 (16%) followed next by 21 year olds (14.9%). I am not sure how or if this applies to your age discrepancy reasoning, but it does show that team youth on its own is not necessarily an excuse for poor AHL team standing.


        –Go Habs Go!–

        • commandant says:

          The Binghamton Senators have a World Class goalie prospect in Robin Lehner who while just 21 is in his third AHL season, and is carrying them. The Bulldogs goaltending has not been close to that caliber. The Senators have also used Ben Bishop as Lehner’s backup.

          Go Habs Go!
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          • B says:

            Binghamton has more going for it than just its goaltending (which yes, has been great so far).

            I don’t blame Hamilton’s poor standing on its goaltending (nor do I blame it on team youth). I believe there are many areas contributing the teams poor standing that can and should be improved on (without just simply getting older or getting different goalies).

            –Go Habs Go!–

    • habstrinifan says:

      Thanks for the link. But when I saw the name Nokelainen, I just about almost lost any interest in a season. If the HABS start the season with this guy as the 13th forward… well they gonna have some expleeeenin to do.

  67. HabFab says:

    Our two top picks from last draft go head to head for gold;

    Check out Collbergs SO GWG against the Russians.

  68. Luke says:

    Shouldn’t the article about a January 4th game be run on the 5th?

  69. Haborama says:

    Man, they should sign NUNA to play as our fourth line center, caus that dude can be downright SCARY at times!

    • Psycho29 says:

      I apologize….I might have woken the sleeping bear with my post earlier this morning…the subject was Barbra Streisand:

      Psycho29 JANUARY 4, 2013 AT 11:08 AM
      Is she another smurf who Bergevin hired to play on the 3rd line because Geoff Molson wants to lose all kinds of money????

      Sorry….I must be channeling someone else!

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Yes someone must have fed him today. 🙂


  70. SarahMc33 says:

    So I was just checking out tsn to see what new lockout nonsense was going on and I couldn’t believe the number of posters that were SO pro ownership. I thought by now everyone would hate both sides about the same for being so obstinate. Is this really the mood out there or is the league trolling the boards?

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I think fans don’t know what to believe Sarah. Listening to the BS spewed by both sides is crazy.

      They are both to blame and it is getting to a point where they all look like goofs

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Luke says:

        They (Fehr & Bettman) are probably holding these ‘talking points’, (the year 2 cap, contract length, the buyouts, pensions etc) hostage until they get what the truly want:

        To decide which one of them gets the Stanely Cup at the end of the year…

        Oh, I mean, which one of them gets to hand out the Cup to the asset who does that thing for some group of assets that they can’t remember what it is.

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      Allow me to explain. TSN moderates their comments section really hard. They block the obvious things like foul language and racisms, but they also block any comment that questions the competence/genius of their writers and experts. Most people with even half a thought in their heads have given up on trying to get comments past the tsn mods.

    • Habilis says:

      I agree with Kooch, nobody knows who’s telling the truth anymore. The NHL has done a little better in the PR war in my opinion, which would make the casual fan lean towards the owners.

      Any objective person who has been following this closely knows that both sides share the blame here. They both drag their feet when it suits them and they both lie about everything. I would say that they both care about money more than anything but at this point they have given up so much money that nobody could say that. The only thing they care about is beating the other side. Welcome to the National Ego League.

      • Bill J says:

        Ultimately that’s the beauty of decertification.

        1. Fehr is gone, changes things… And that’s putting it mildly.
        2. Bettman would likely be fired very soon thereafter.

        No matter what, the NHL and the players (as a group or individuals) will be better off without Bettman.

        Why anyone would want to rush Fehr out? After hearing that MLB has had 14 years of labour peace. And that in large part to Fehr.

        Go Habs Go!

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