Greatest stat of all time

P.A. Parenteau: one goal on zero shots

Eric Hornick, statistician on New York Islanders home telecasts since 1982, shares this wonderful only-in-the-NHL stat with members of the Society for International Hockey Research:

Islanders’ P.A. Parenteau was credited with an awarded goal in Friday night’s 4-3 Isles win over Boston when he was hooked at in an empty-net situation. Parenteau thus goes into the record books with one goal on zero shots taken during the game.

So forever, he will at least share the record of “Highest shooting percentage: infinity.”

Pat Hickey’s game story

Quotes from the room

About Saturday afternoon

• Don Cherry thinks we should stop whining about “what’s his name”

• Andrew Cohen has a different view in The Atlantic

What’s all the fuss about Chara-Pacioretty? asks Boston Globe’s Kevin Paul Dupont

Some heavyweights weigh in

Arpon Basu’s Playoff Check-up

483 Comments

  1. ed lopaz says:

    Gomez went out of his way this week to use Stevens as a model example of how to hit legally???

    Some players are clueless.

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  2. novahab says:

    I disagree the league controls the size of the ice surface because I believe they wanted a bigger ice surface when the Bell Centre was being planned. Gary the Gangster Bettman would have nothing to do with it because he thought it would give the Canadiens a advantage.

  3. fbkj says:

    it elevates the profile of the issue and shines more light on the problem

  4. The Cat says:

    Well you got amazing eyes.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  5. JERM says:

    Just read the Kevin Paul Dupont article, Absolutely Ridiculous!

    First off because incidents like these occurred in the past with little to no suspension or repercussions does not mean that going forward the league should not be punishing these type of dangerous hits. The past and “precedence” has no relevance in this discussion. The NHL needs to stop using this crutch as an excuse not to suspend players and going forward needs to hold ALL players (regardless of stature) accountable for their actions on the ice.

    Secondly because no one was up in arms and making a “stink” when Bergeron and Savard were concussed (as per Dupont) that is not Montreal’s problem the city or the organization. All Bostonian’s should have taken the responsibility to speak up and voice there concerns to the league and publicly such as Montreal is doing now.

    Finally, I am tired of hearing that this is a dangerious sport where the violence within the game is what puts fans in the seats. When you parade out an argument like that then you cannot be taken seriously as a journalist. Cite one fan survey or even statistics that shows this to be a fact. I guess names like Crosby and Ovechin have no bearing on attracting fans to the game. I guess all those Ovechin, Crosby, Sedin, Camalleri, Price, Stamkos, etc. jerseys being sold are because fans love to watch these guys fight and deliver headshots. Last I checked Cooke, Rupp, Thorton, Campbell are not the most sought after jerseys in the league.

    Yes hockey is a fast and exciting sport however hockey is but does not need to be violent. The violence occurs because the players and the league allow it to happen. The league needs to understand that we are no longer living in the 70′s and 80′s, today’s fans and society in general, as witnessed by the backlash in Montreal or Mario Lemieux speaking out, no longer accept this and the NHL needs to start listening.

    Jerm

  6. fbkj says:

    problem with increasing the ice surface is season ticket owners, youd have to add as many seats elsewhere as you subtract in order to avoid major pr headaches

    which is a logistical nightmare for a lot of buildings… most notably MSG

  7. ed lopaz says:

    yes. you are right. season ticket holders would be an issue.

    I think it could be resolved once they saw the product on the ice.

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  8. blu3chip says:

    Notice Hal Gill was facing AWAY from the board the whole time?

    Notice Hal Gill never contacted his opponent’s head during the hit?

    I sure noticed those.

    I also noticed you claimed a player who made a split second decision and rammed his opponent’s head into the turnbuckle a geometry/algebra genius.

  9. showey47 says:

    subban laying out brad marchand.

     

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMVSwVZqvTQ

  10. Danno says:

    Okay, it probably won’t make any difference but here goes anyways…

     

    Here is Moores Clothing’s email address…

    customer@mooresclothing.com

    Letter I sent…

    ————————————

    Dear Sir or Madam,

    I regret to inform you that as a result of the insulting comments made by Don Cherry on Coach’s Corner that I will no longer patronize your establishment or buy any of your products. Your company is a sponsor of Coach’s Corner which airs on Hockey Night in Canada broadcast by the CBC.

    I have taken this decision in light of the fact that Mr. Cherry made several insulting, inaccurate, insensitive and offensive remarks regarding the near-fatal assault of Boston Bruins Captain Zdeno Chara on Montreal Canadiens forward Max Pacioretty.

    The message Mr. Cherry gave was contrary to the values we hold and only aggravates a very bad situation.

    Regards

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  11. LA Loyalist says:

    Ok. Don Cherry. At least he offered an idea, to angle the stanchion, which is more than many others have. However his logic of “oh it happens all the time so it can’t be punished” is utter crud and he should know better. He should have called out the NHL to fix it.

    People drive through red lights all the time (at least here in LA), that does not make it legal or less dangerous.

    To me, what makes this morally reprehensible by Chara is the shove with his left arm. That is the grounds for a major suspension.

    The GM’s had better act this week. God bless Max.

  12. fbkj says:

    not to those who once had reds and suddenly find themselves in the desjardins section

    not to those who once had season tickets but no longer have them (if they dont expand the buildings to accomodate more seats)

    removal of a few rows takes my seats out of the reds lol… which is why im against it, but thats just me lookin after my own interests ;-)

  13. Bill J says:

    Carey Price – First Pre-Season game, after game-scrum: “PEOPLE NEED TO CHILL OUT!”

     

     

  14. shuttle-lemaire-lafleur says:

    Haven’t seen it, won’t watch it, I will not let that fool rent space in my head.

  15. Hobie Hansen says:

    When friends and family asked me about the Chara hit throughout the week I had to say one thing to say about the incident. The fact is that 100s of players have been checked into that area of the rink before and there’s never been a suspension. So when Cherry showed a video of all the hits in that area I had to agree with him for the most part.

    The main reason I thought there could have been a suspension is because Chara basically stalked Pacioretty around the ice for five periods of hockey leading up to the injury. Chara slashed him in the previous game and anytime a scrum broke out Chara went flying in and tried to pummel Paciorrety. So I thought the hit was premeditated.

    The entire thing about the police and sponsors getting involved made me shake my head a little bit for the same reason Cherry mentioned; they’re all from Montreal.

    It was a nasty hit and we all know Chara injured him intentionally but there are too many grey areas and it is technically hard to prove he did it on purpose when 100s of similar hits have taken place without a suspension.

    There should definitely be some changes made to that area of the rink and possibly a new rule put in place that states you can’t hit a player into the bench area…    

  16. Mark C says:

    Chara’s motive isn’t so irrational when you consider his actions that followed the shove, and his singling out of Max the next time the two teams met. In the past two games it seems clear that Max had a target on him and Bruins players were going after him whenever possible. A shove is a fairly weak motive, but once we look at the timeline and Chara’s actions towards Max it’s hard not to view that shove as some sort of motive.

    Chara going after Max in Boston: http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/102046

     

  17. Clay4bc says:

    Cat, the thing is, the NHL already looks bad. And regardless of what you think about this particular incident, they look worse every time something like this happens, and they maintain the status-quo. Doing nothing is the worst option available, yet they keep going back to it.

    As for the sponsors speaking up – that is certainly their right, as it is the right of us fans. They (and the fans) pay the money, and make this league possible. Without them (and us) there is no NHL.

    __________________________

    The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

  18. blu3chip says:

    Which is worse? Sour old grapes or sour Nordiques fans?

  19. Danno says:

    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.” — Joseph Goebells


    “It was the stanchion. It was the stanchion. It was the stanchion.” Don Cherry, Donald Fehr, Gary Bettman, Mike Murphy….

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  20. observer says:

    this is very strange? just a couple of months ago the teachers union came out and flatout said they are not selling the team. now a complete reversal? gotta be a whole lot more behind this?

  21. HabFanSince72 says:

    if he was on my team and his victim had walked away alive, I woulda loved’m for it.

    His victim did walk away alive. So I guess you’re siding with the fans who gave the animal a standing O.

  22. observer says:

    isles goalie billy smith(and many others in a different way)? didnt shoot that puck either and scored?

  23. habitual says:

    I started to watch the Cherry video, unable not to in the same way you can’t stop yourself from looking at a car accident.

     

    But really, can anyone take a guy who, with his ridiculous hat and cartoon coloured outfit, looks like a character from the Cat in the Hat?

    And sounds like one?

  24. fbkj says:

    not sure if id call that irony but im certainly not surprised… why anyone is offended by what he said makes me shake my head… we all heard his comments in our heads the momet chara hit patches… hes that damn predictable and devoid of thoughtfull processes

  25. Chorske says:

    But… but…

    OK, so scuse me for going all nerdlike, but his shooting percentage would not be “infinity” in this case- it would be “IMPOSSIBLE” (because one cannot divide by zero), which in many ways is even better. His shooting percentage would be infinity if he had scored an infinite number of goals off one or more shots.

    I love situations like this- it’s like getting a no-hitter and still losing the game. Only WAY less crappy.

  26. observer says:

    which national american tv network doing games of a sport whether it be hockey, football, baseball, baskets, whatever – has a commentator or between periods host commenting on politics like cherry does routinely?

  27. Thurston says:

    Anyone else finding it ironic that Cherry is defending the European over the North American player?

  28. fbkj says:

    Lars Eller ripping briere’s stick out of his hands and throwing it down the ice after briere tries to fondle his junk

  29. SeriousFan09 says:

    Here’s one for your day.

    Most memorable play by a Hab this season, go.

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  30. Bugs says:

    For the record, I never bought the “normal hit in unknown area of the ice” story. No doubt he pushed him, deliberately, THERE. With the intent to jam him up what good. A play we’ve all seen a hundred times over the course of our NHL-watchin lives and which usually end up on the Plays of the Week. No doubt that was his PLAN. He MEANT to put him in there; I don’t care what anyone says. He just didn’t expect to murder the guy BECAUSE it’s a hit we’ve seen 100 times, and unless Dale Hunter applied it, the victims usually walked away alive. I believe in his remorse frm that standpoint.

    I just don’t believe in his innocence on the play. He SAW the Pac-Man; he SAW the stanchion, he SAW the opportunity. And he took it. And if he was on my team and his victim had walked away alive, I woulda loved’m for it. That’s why it’s the “didn’t know who it was and where I was” story that rubs me the wrong way. C’mon.

    As for the slanted stanchion idea, meh.

    Same kinda play, you hit that thing with your chin or the side of your face, your body’s momentum keeps going but your head twists up the rail, nice, crack-crack, I dunno; I think you risk the broken net just as much…

    How ’bout just triple the padding?

  31. RGM says:

    The problem, unfortunately, is that Don Cherry–no matter how absurd and out-of-touch he is–remains relevant in shaping opinions about hockey in Canada. You need only to go Twitter and see how many “I agree with Don Cherry” type tweets there are there, how many people cite him as representing their views, etc.

    He is a dinosaur that represents a bygone era. People forget that helmets weren’t always mandatory. They still criticize those who wear visors to protect themselves. People forget that goalies used to not have helmets. When those changes were introduced into the game, people were aghast. I’m sure Mike Milbury started talking about “pansies” the first time he saw a visor.

    Fortunately for people who do care about the players, there is a new generation of on-air talent that is articulate and well-reasoned. People like Steve Kouleas, Mike Johnson, and Kevin Weekes are but three of them. They don’t raise eyebrows and they don’t get a lot of press because they aren’t bombastic blowhards, but they are often right. Cherry will be gone within 5 years. These guys are the future, and when their time comes they will have a better and more positive impact in shaping public opinion on violence in hockey.

    Go Habs Go!

  32. Ton says:

    agree. having said this little is said on the hit inself by dupont or cherry.  for those who really understand hockey the hit as it is being referred to  needs to be analyize frame by frame. (reason, cause, result, etc) botomline it didn’t need to happen, no contact should have been made, the puck was not in the play hence the interpherence call. that cannot change therefore one needs to review it has it happened>the follow through, not bad but it was in the head area, the rub out>well done but it was an ilegal contact> the intent/motive> didn’t mean to kill him  but he wanted to crunch him, pay back this is the result he wanted.  very few are looking at this way, its more about 1992, 1996, chara was skating backwards, what was he suppose to do, he’s a nice guy, he’s big, bla bla bla.

  33. JERM says:

    Excellent letter. Every little bit counts. A single voice is better then no voice.

    Jerm

  34. The Cat says:

    No youre wrong.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  35. Bill J says:

    I choose to believe the “Teachers union” does not like the injuries in the NHL & the lack of action by the NHL.

    Seems like a sensible position for teachers to take.

  36. jennifer1984 says:

    i started to and then stopped it. i had heard what he said and knew that if i had watched it, i would just get more angry, so i stopped myself.

     

    what a joke. and you all know that if it was a Boston guy instead of Patches, CHerry would be freaking!

  37. RGM says:

    I like the CTV guys on Question Period doing the “water cooler talk” about how this is a battle between “the old guard” and intelligent, well-reasoned people who are concerned about consequences moreso than intent.

    Go Habs Go!

  38. Bill J says:

    We have to get Bruiser the Bulldog to hunt you down Cat.

    This post by the feline Nordiques fan is clearly searching for a flame war.

    I mean no intelligent poster would write this type of post HERE without expecting a flame war.

     

  39. RGM says:

    LMAO @ Craig Oliver referring to Don Cherry as a “garrulous ignoramus.”

    Go Habs Go!

  40. habsgod says:

    can anyone of my fellow habs fans tell me where i can find carey price’stats,iwant to find his career record against all the other teams i looked but couldn’t find anything.

  41. The Cat says:

    I really have no reason to be sour, but you may have a reason to be irrational however.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  42. mrhabby says:

    yes…this is exactly what its about. the old boys network vs the new breed , well reasoned masses.

  43. The Cat says:

    Im french and Im a separatist, I really dont make a point to align myself with Don Cherry. I think hes disrespectful and I thought he was very wrong when it came to PK Subban. But on this occasion, I think he was more right than wrong.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  44. blu3chip says:

    lol

    That is almost as meaningless as saying “I’m right and you are wrong, period.”

    It’s either you are sour, or just incredibly not bright. “If Chara planned all that, well hes a geometry/algebra genius.” is just golden. A normal human being with a rational mind is not dumb enough to say something like that.

  45. The Cat says:

    You read and weep.

    http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/hockey/comments/out_with_the_seamless_glass/

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  46. LA Loyalist says:

    You need to watch it, it’s important. At least he offers a solution which I like to know what all you guys think.

    Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

     

  47. SeriousFan09 says:

    What makes it a real laugher is he accused Steckel of knowing exactly what he was doing when he shouldered Crosby in the head, but poor Zdeno Chara had no clue what he was doing by riding Pacioretty in to that stanchtion.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  48. Ian Cobb says:

    CONCUSSION—PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO CLIP

    Please click onto this link and scroll down to the English video—

    The french text, click onto your translate button on google for the english.

    http://www.ckac.com/football/nouvelles/vid-o-la-dure-realite-d-un-commotionne-du-foot-62684.html

    Regards, from a very upset and concered 67yr. old hockey fan, hockey billet, minor coach & referee and hockey players grand parent. This is no longer the game that I loved all my life.

  49. Bugs says:

    He didn’t walk away at all.

    So I guess your conclusion is flawed.

  50. habstrinifan says:

    I would like to se ethe league look into the idea re angling the stanchion. Don Cherry said this idea came from Kelly, a former player. All solutions should be looked at and if this maintains the integrity of the structure while preventing injuries it should be adopted.

     

    It looks like an easy modification also.

     

  51. habsgod says:

    thanks for  this

  52. Omit says:

    I see your problem.  I link you to the NHL rules and you link me to kuklaskorner and someone who quotes Darren Dreger. LOL!

    Give me the info or stats that proves the Bell Centre has more injuries than other arenas.  I’ll simplify it for you.  Name me players from the Habs that have been injured due to the glass in the past 3 years and show me that it’s different from other arenas.

  53. habstrinifan says:

    Carey Price signing his contract!!

     

  54. likehoy says:

    How can Kevin Dupont compare Zdeno Chara to Max Pacioretty and Guillaume Latendresse?
    Chara has played over 10 years in the NHL, pacioretty and latendresse were just rookies.

    - Gomez is holding down the “overpaid” button

  55. RGM says:

    No problem. The Canadiens’ “Our History” page also has stats. You can compare all records from all seasons, which is pretty cool.

    Go Habs Go!

  56. Thurston says:

    Angling the stanchion or putting more padding on it may help, but what about the sudden stop when a fast moving player hits it? It’s still got to jar the ever-loving crap out of you. Then, there is the matter of hitting the ice quickly after hitting the stanchion.

  57. The Cat says:

    Well you can believe me or not. Is Ron Reusch good enough? The NY Times? How about ESPN?

    http://www.nytimes.com/1997/01/19/sports/players-call-a-new-type-of-glass-around-rinks-unsafe.html

    http://thereuschblog.com/?p=6831

    http://a.espncdn.com/nhl/columns/heika_mike/1497075.html

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  58. Jbird says:

    Game two when Gomer’s weak wrister beats Fluery 5 hole with a minute to go – Habs were down 2 nothing with 3 to go.  Habs complete an inprobable comeback and we all cheer the hallarious  Pens Collapse. 

  59. SeriousFan09 says:

    That’s my pick as well, SUBBANG.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  60. The Cat says:

    I guess Hal Gill is evil as well then.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rHHMZkpvw6c

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  61. drivefor25 says:

    If Chara is so ‘innocent’, why is he saying now he had no idea it was Pacioretty on the ice? He’s paid $7.5 million, he’s won a Norris and now we’re supposed to believe he had no idea it was Patches he was chasing to the boards and angling into the stanchion? How can you believe Chara had no idea he was lining up against Patcioretty less than 20 seconds before the incident?

    His statement wouldn’t hold up in a court of law. It would be perjury. And if Chara’s lying about that, what else is he lying about? His intent, perhaps?

    Fan since ’71

  62. petrov14 says:

    YES!

    ______________________________________ Long live Captain Gionta.

  63. andrewberkshire says:

    It’s not his solution, and it still doesn’t make any sense. If you’re going to angle the stanchion why have it there anyway? Just take out the glass.

  64. Omit says:

    Typical separatist.  You never let the facts get in the way of a debate.  Instead of answering my question, you throw up garbage to obfuscate matters.

  65. Everlasting1 says:

    Osama Osama Osama..

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  66. The Cat says:

    Typical anglo who bends over for everybody. You didnt even know what I meant by seamless glass. If these players said this: ‘‘It is very dangerous,” Brendan Shanahan of the Detroit Red Wings said. ”It’s like running into a brick wall.”

    Owen Nolan of San Jose said: ”It’s a lot harder. It’s like hitting concrete.”

    Derian Hatcher of Dallas rapped his fist against a wooden table to illustrate his point and said: ”It’s hard. It doesn’t move. It seems like guys will get injuries. Being hit into this is not fun.”

    And then theres: The six remaining NHL arenas with seamless glass are scheduled for a makeover in the offseason.

    Sources tell The Dreger Report that Calgary, Montreal, Minnesota, Nashville, Colorado and Phoenix will have their end zone boards and glass retro-fitted to acrylic glass to comply with the rest of the league.

    Acrylic glass is flexible and helps absorb the energy of a bodycheck, while conversely, the traditional glass system provides no energy absorption.

    The decision to make the change, according to a source, was primarily based on NHL injury reports which show above normal injury rates in the six arenas without acrylic glass in the endzones.

    The Predators, for one, says it’s hopeful the change will make for a safer environment.

    This (Dregor report quote)is good enough for me. Whether or not these buildings have had more injuries I dont know Im not that bored that Im going to analyze this rink by rink.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  67. RGM says:

    I like how folks nowadays, instead of using real grammar and punctuation, try and pull passive-aggressive tactics. Seriously, friend, compare the level of intelligence in a battle between Ken Dryden (lawyer, former League executive, MP) and Don Cherry (can’t count to five) and tell me that they’re wrong.

    Go Habs Go!

  68. Omit says:

    Well, at least you know how to use google for certain things.  You just didn’t know or were unable find the answer to my question.

    Btw, I know what seamless glass is and I didn’t even have to google it.

  69. Miltie01 says:

    I like how folks now of days, intead of having real discussion, accuse their opponant of being unintelligent, and not being well reasoned when they disagree with you……

  70. OneTimer says:

    That’s a good post Hobie, I’m with ya.

  71. larisalapointe says:

    Hal Gill’s 2 goals in Florida in consecutive games!!!

  72. HardHabits says:

    Yes it does. I am talking about the goonery not the Chara hit. Players need to keep their heads up. Pax put himself in harms way. I am not exonerating Chara but players need to keep their wits about them. That is my complaint with Markov. He’s not smart out there and he paid te price.

    The Habs need to be able to fight back when push comes to shove. Look at the Bruins-Habs series when Price shut them out in game 7. Watch that series and tell me this team can bring the same physical play.

    BTW. I loved how Cooke got all upset with Weber when he got a taste of his own medicine. That is why we need a scrappier team. To be able to hold back the response the Pens gave us.

    And you know what. Somebody on the Bruins should have killed Cooke. Damn that stupid instigator rule.

  73. LA Loyalist says:

    I think that is a suitable expression.

  74. HardHabits says:

    I hope you are right. I’d still like to see more grit on the team and less injuries.

  75. HardHabits says:

    Somebody coined it best on the other thread: Cockroach’s Corner.

  76. Timo says:

    The fact is that NHL is full of Avery’s – guys that like to get under your skin, yap, and not drop the gloves. He is maybe more annoying than others in some regards, but in general he is not alone. 

    I liked one thing he said – enough with this guy. Campaigning or even talking about cherry only serves the purpose of confirming that he is something of a topic. He is nothing – he is a thing that is to be ignored.

     

  77. Black Snake Moen says:

    ahahahah

    it’s even funnier reading it a second time!!

    a rally!?! a RALLY!?!?

    like COME ONNNNN!!!!!!

     

    ya no kidding, you said it haha!

    insane or either really stupid stupid stupid stupid people put things in their own head that didn’t exist

    most of them are just Bruins fans I guess, take Jack Edwards for example!

    thanks for wasting 7 minutes of my life

  78. observer says:

    Boston isn’t beating anyone in this year’s playoffs playing as they are now. Won’t win a single series.

  79. BeachHabFan says:

    I’ve never shopped at Moore’s, the sponsor of Coach’s Corner, but my dad does. Should i say, used to. He’s 76 and FURIOUS and bringing back his latest purchase tomorrow. How bout we all boycott Moore’s in appreciation for their support of Don Cherry (and i’m sure air canada will welcome him with open arms the next time he boards a flight). i seriously cannot watch the CBC coverage anymore. on the bright side, my toronto-born kids will have functional hockey-watching French

  80. andrewberkshire says:

    Indeed. Forwards would be getting the advantage of Markov’s intelligent transition game, and defensemen who are forced to play slightly over their heads would move down the depth chart. Imagine how good Subban would be facing weaker competition, or how much more rested Hamrlik would be.

  81. observer says:

    Blue too would be outraged if he’d still be alive and seen what old Cherry has become!

  82. Miltie01 says:

    I have to ask once again

     

    What did you expect ? I have listened to Ron and Don for years as I am sure you and most here have. I could have guessed almost word for word what was going to be said. Why is everybody shocked and upset ? This was so predictable.

    And why do people keep on watching ? Everyone keeps complaining, yet every saturday they watch anyway, then come and complain. Why would you watch it if it is that disturbing to you ? I will tell you, it isn’t about to change unless people stop watching, they make too much money due to the massive amount of people who watch him.

  83. Mattyleg says:

    Touché. I never watch them, and therefore have no problem.

    It’s very pleasant.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  84. LizardKing1967 says:

    The battle rages on……

    Great comment!

     

    I really did not want to believe anyone could be THIS moronic, but it seems like Bruin NAtion is.

    Let’s just keep kicking their asses on the scoresheet, the same as the last game.

     

     

    Jim-out. I BELIEVE!

  85. HardHabits says:

    I just want to see Henry and Bonneau in a Habs uniform on the 24th. Not for revenge. Just to keep those “bastiches” honest.

    The plain and simple truth is the Habs are a better team than the Bruins.

    And another thing. If and I say a big bolden italics IF the Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs and Bettman are trying their dandiest to rig the Stanley Cup, don’t forget this. They are not the only two scumbags with monetary interests who are involved with gambling. The whole world is run by money grubbers wanting all the glory.

    To win you gotta want to win. Nobody is going to hand us the Cup because we can out-whine everybody. To win the Cup you need to break a few bones and lose a few teeth.

    Enough of this wimpy ass crap.

    Let’s just man up and go out there and win this thing and if not give it all we got.

    What happened to Pacioretty was awful but he’s up and out of the hospital bed already. Maybe he’ll never play again. If so it’s time to move on but to never forget.

    I wont that’s for sure.

    Boston can try it all. We’ve been there and done that. This isn’t the 1st hockey injury and it wont be the last.

    This incident and the last game in Boston should be a wake-up call to the Habs management that we need to nasty if need be and not just skilled. I am not saying Chris Chelios to Brian Propp nasty, I mean Larry Robinson to Dave Schultz nasty.

    The Islanders did it. They also beat Boston last game and when Boston tried to goon it up the Islanders pushed back. The Habs need to be able to push back

    Forget all the what about Savard and Bergeron stuff. Those two players should have had their heads up.

  86. Exit716 says:

    Ron MacLean comes across as the biggest coward in Canadian television history the way he is bullied by Cherry week in and week out. What a gutless bastard.

  87. Danno says:

    *like*

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  88. TorontoHabsFan says:

    He’s not paid to spar with him anymore. Now he’s there to guide Cherry through the segment without losing the thread. Cherry’s senility/dementia* has put an end to the combative aspect the segment used to have.

    *I continue to suspect it’s dementia, but am willing to concede that it might just be run of the mill senility.

  89. rob_c says:

    good comment

  90. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Don’t be a ninny. I’m sure just as many of us flipped the channel to curling to avoid the conceited blow hard. By the way, there is such a thing as going too far, you know.

  91. Gormdog says:

    Wow, I even wrote it that way twice, been a long night :P

     

    I have so much love for Price that it pops up everythere.

  92. Storm Man says:

    Price is the player most of us with insight said he was going to be.

  93. Gormdog says:

    The lines have been drawn…

  94. Gormdog says:

    True, he could command Luongo money.

     

    Before this amazing season I would have bet lots and lots of dollars that he would leave town once his contract was over.

     

    Being the king of Mecca might just be alluring enough if we just “chill out” and are able to ride the bad with the good.

     

    Plus he’s not going to want to leave Pk. And it’ll be awhile before they can ask for cap killin’ contracts.

  95. wall2bay says:

    As for HNIC and Cherry, here’s the email of the guy that we need to “whine” to:

    David.Masse@cbc.ca

    I encourage everybody on this site to give their 2 cents as to why Cherry should no longer be on CBC and maybe get a job on Laffs TV or something!

    “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

  96. Ian Cobb says:

    Thanks Christophor

  97. G-Man says:

    How about they listen to the ones who actually take the time to write them? If enough people wrote to voice their concerns, someone there would have to take notice.

    When you sit there with your thumbs up your ass (metaphorically speaking, of course), nothing changes. Affecting change requires a little effort.

  98. shootdapuck says:

    It’s scripted and schtick!

     

    … the fans of the Boston Bruins now have lost forever any right to complain that “the league” is out to get their team, and that the Montreal Canadiens have some kind of pull inside the NHL home office. Charles P. Pierce – Boston Globe

  99. Fig Newton says:

    Hey, you want some cheese to go with that whine? 

  100. Miltie01 says:

    Hell, there are many here on HIO who watch the game on RDS and switch to the CBC so they can then come here and complain about what Cherry said !!!

     

    I am telling you, whether you like him or not, he has the viewership and he will be going nowhere until he doesn’t…or he decides to retire.

  101. Miltie01 says:

    This not only applies to Price……I think most of the guys would have better stats with those two healthy this season.

  102. Watchdog says:

    I told you guys a long time ago, but people responded by ” no man, this is the NHL, they couldn’t get away with things like this.”

    Let me put it out there again. As long as Gary Bettman is Commish, no Canadian team will ever win the Stanley Cup, and if it is ever a case between Boston and Montreal, Boston will always win out, even if it is as obvious as the Chara hit.

    Yes, I know, the Habs in 93, but Bettman was only getting his feet wet then. Does anybody think the NHL will ever allow an Ottawa-Edmonton final to happen so NBC could go ballisitic?? REALITY: Gary Bettman got his contract with the recomendation of Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs who is Chairman of the Board of Governors apparently? Apparently they are very very close. The Boston Bruins have gary in their pocket. And think about this. If the Bruins get shafted in the penalty box by any ref, Greogory Campbell plays 5 minutes. If they get the calls, Greogory is rewarded with time on the PP. This kind of power should never be in the hands of one team. As Joe Thornton said, and he should know because he played for them, The Colon Campbell’s Bruins always get the breaks when it comes to discipline, and now they are getting the breaks with the refs too. 

  103. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’ve heard about Ambroz, but ATM I’ve not read of many who impressed by him and think he’s 2nd-round material. It’s nothing against him per se but they don’t like his numbers in Junior A that much, 3rd year in the league and he’s not setting it on fire. Maybe the final stretch and USHL playoffs will raise his stock but I haven’t seen him ranked very well lately.

    Have him in my little Draft Watch profile.

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  104. Black Snake Moen says:

    yeah I guess exposing fake journalism is considered whining.  No one in this world has time for stupid people like you.  Go sit on the couch

  105. Fig Newton says:

      

    Oh yeah, Montreal fans certainly are the most intelligent hockey fans in the world. Sure. Of course they are. Now, I can tell from your rant….uh…I mean post….that you are a man of wisdom (snicker). You are right at the top of the heap with another shining example of the intelligence of Montreal fans, the genius who is organizing that rally over “the hit heard round Montreal”. That’s the only place it was heard. 

    A rally…wow this guy just has WAY too much time on his hands. I mean, I know that it is a really long winter up there, and…well…there really isn’t much to do there other than to watch or play hockey. But comon…a RALLY? Isn’t that just a BIT over the top, even for an Einstein Montreal fan? A rally over a hockey hit? He really couldn’t find something else to rally about? Like maybe…I dunno…how about the recession and unemployment rate? Like maybe all hell breaking loose in the Middle East? Maybe a peace rally or something? How about maybe a rally against wars in Afghanistan and Iraq? Oh, i have one…How about a rally to raise some money for the people of Japan? What a novel idea. Now, those poor people have some REAL, serious problems to contend with. And yet  this guy chooses to organize a rally about a hockey hit. WOW!!!   Man, talk about someone who is OUT OF TOUCH with reality, this guy is the poster child. 

    OK, I’m gonna give it to you straight. Take a deep breath now…Realistically, you people NEED need to realize, for your own good, that the only ones who are ‘furious’ about this hit, (other than Jumbo Joe Thornton, who’s had  an ax to grind with the Bruins since we shipped his underachieving butt to SJ) are the fans in Montreal. Look around.  No one else CARES. No One! Nada. Zip. Zero. Zilch. I know it is hard to fathom, even for a hockey intellectual such as yourself. But it is imperative for you to understand this if you have any hope of recovery at all.   

    Now, I know that although you are the most intelligent fans in hockey, you are somewhat isolated from the real world up there. But, its not like you are in the Arctic Circle or anything. So, let me be the first to tell you that this isn’t even the tiniest of blips on anyone radar screen other than yours. Honestly, it isn’t. I know that may come as a shock to you self-important Habs fans, but the world does not revolve around your team. Please try to absorb this with your infinitely intelligent minds. I know you can do it.

    Ok, so my advice to you is: Get over it people. Seriously. Get over it! No, REALLY, get over it.

  106. ed lopaz says:

    SF ’09,

    to answer your question about the 2011 draft for the Habs, I like the same guy i liked 6 months ago.

    Seth Ambroz.

    a 6″3 200 lbs forward who scores and hits. played with Leblanc and kristo at Omaha

    Ambroz made the Omaha USHL team as a freakin 15 year old, and only turned 16 in April, which means he played the whole season as a 15 year old – absolutely ridiculous.

    When Leblanc was 15 he was playing 1st year Midget AAA here in Montreal.

    I was speaking to the GM of leblanc’s AAA team that year, and he told me NO Way a 15 year old should be playing USHL.

    Ambroz is below your guy, Jurco, at 28 North American skaters, so he should be there for the Habs.

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=67005

    http://www.mockdraftmania.com/20110309-seth-ambroz-scouting-report/

    If Ambroz is available, he’s the guy the Habs should absolutely grab.

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  107. christophor says:

    Don’t look now but Ian Schultz has scored in back-to-back games, though the Bulldogs lost 6-5.

    Also, Palushaj with 2 goals and an assits.  Conboy with 1 goal and 2 assists.

    I bet Palushaj sees regular 3rd line duty next year.

  108. G-Man says:

    Is Moores listening to us?

     

    Don Cherry and Coach’s Corner Boycott [Incident:110313-000015]

    Response Moores

    Thank you for contacting Moores Customer Care. We have received your message and it will be directed to the appropriate individual within our organization.

  109. derfab says:

    Cherry is right, the league was obliged to hand out a major suspension on the play and didn’t have the balls to take the Bruins out of contention, so the Habs, given the chance, will have to do it ..and if what’s his Charga gets very hurt by a poorly designed skate or graphite splinter…ah shucks.

  110. wall2bay says:

    The B in the Bruins stands for our “Bitch” cuz that’s what they are to us. 

    Philly’s goaltending will come into question and will finally be exposed.  They did it once with a journey man goalie, to do it twice would be expecting alot!

    “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

  111. christophor says:

    Yes. It was inevitable that they’d score 5 goals. Anybody can fill in for anybody.

    Stamkos is putting them in because he’s getting the minutes. Throw Moore up there instead to give Stevie a rest.

  112. G-Man says:

    I don’t tune in. I haven’t for years. I watched this segment on Youtube and wrote Moores to tell them I would boycott their products as long as they sponsor Don Cherry.

  113. ShangaDoo says:

    Ahhh, injuries. What happened to Dawes?

    “They say you can’t buy experience,and it’s really true.” -Carey Price

  114. Miltie01 says:

    My point still stands, he has the ratings that say he keeps his job. The advertisers know they can get their product infront of a mass of humanity every saturday night if they sponsor the show. Until more folks don’t watch it he will be on the air.

  115. HardHabits says:

    Hilarious.

  116. JIMVINNY says:

    Anyone noticed that Price is starting to pull away in the NHL three stars standings?  With the first star of the night for last night, he’s now 40 points clear of Tavares, and 50 clear of Toews.  Pretty impressive stuff.

  117. Psycho29 says:

    Doesn’t matter if we tune in or not to see their ads….if we stop buying their product, that’s what hurts them…

  118. Miltie01 says:

    May be so, but they are still making loads of dough sponsoring Coach’s Corner………stop watching Cherry, then Moore’s will change their mind, that is all I’m saying.

  119. Miltie01 says:

    Foe everyone writing in saying they will no longer buy their suits there are still 1000 watching folks. Who do you think they are going to listen to ?

  120. Black Snake Moen says:

    bahahaha

    please give me one line where I said the word “rally”

    please, be my guest…

    ……

    so therefore you based your whole worthless post on something YOU SAID, coupled with words you looked up on dictionary.com that you don’t understand.  Just like your buddy from the Boston Globe who couldn’t write his way out of a paper bag.

    Now, if you want to lecture me on geo-political happenings, please please please hear me when I say I would never EVER take advice by a low-life Boston fan who chooses to TROLL message boards of the opposing team, verbally attacking others because everyone in the hockey world, NOT just us HABS fans know that there’s something wrong in the league here.  Let’s really look at that.  Apparently I’m out of touch and need MY priorities straight?!  hahaha, like I would ever waste my time creating a profile and heading over to iheartbruins.com and attempt to make a one-man vigilante message board war happen.  I mean, who’s the one who’s out of touch here?!  Really, let’s get serious…you talked about me organizing a rally? clearly you’re too stupid to even read my post, so therefore you’ve already lost and once again have proven the notion that all Bruins fans are stupid.  Thanks!  I know plenty what’s going on in the world, I don’t need some idiot from the States to tell me that there was an Earthquake in Japan.  Stick to your white-collar crime infested, neo-3rd-world joke of a country, the people who need help in this world don’t need it coming from uninformed rednecks like yourself, thanks very much.

    So in conclusion, the hit was still a dirty hit, in which he guided his head into the stanchion, and every player in the league who has spoken about this believes that as a proffesional, you know where that part of the ice is.  So in fact, it isn’t only Habs fans speaking out about this like you say. 

    And, to reiterate, you totally made something up that I never even said and based your whole post around it….it’s actually really funny when you think about it hahaha!!

    my advice to you is, don’t come around here because you’re too stupid, I’m sure when you post on the bruins&bjs.com you can make up statements for other people and expect it to strike a nerve, but not here pal, not where people can read.

    NEXTTTTTTTTTT

    pleaasseeeeeeee, give me a Bruins fan with a decent IQ!!! or one that can read!!!

  121. HabFab says:

    Someone has to score for the Dogs…both Dawes and Boyd are out injured.

  122. Miltie01 says:

    They are listening loud and clear. They know that even though you can’t stand the guy you tune in every week and see their product advertised. They would be stupid to pull their ads. Are you aware that the CBC knows that when Don Cherry comes on people switch to the game just to hear what he is going to say ? Do you realize that people who don’t watch hockey tune in just for the time he is on Coach’s Corner ? You want him off air, don’t tune in, don’t write people about him, even if it is complaining. Convince everyone you know to do the same. When he no longer draws the viewers he draws, then he will be taken off the air.

  123. Exit716 says:

    As a clothing store Moore’s is fine if you’re 85 years old and want to dress like you live in a Florida retirement community.

  124. Ian Cobb says:

    Both of them!

  125. wall2bay says:

    It’s only a matter of time before he has his own “Jimmy the Greek” moment!

    As far as I’m concerned, he’s a racist in sheep’s clothing!

    “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

  126. ed lopaz says:

    The USHL is not a league with very many high scorers. Ambroz is ranked 21st, but most ahead of him are 1991′s.

    But I agree that many are questioning Ambroz – that’s why he is not ranked higher – and still available for the Habs.

    Any player ranked in the bottom 10 of the first round can easily fall into the second round.

    Again – its a question of what’s available to the Habs.

    I can’t give you a 5 star pick, because then he will be gone in the top 10 of the first round, right? :-)

     

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  127. ZepFan2 says:

    I have a question of my own.

    Do you think he’d do his “schtick” and be disrespectful like he is if Rose was still alive?

    And for the record. I don’t ever watch Clown’s corner.

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  128. andrewberkshire says:

    So we should waste all of our call ups to ‘toughen up’? We beat the Bruins, they didn’t get away with any goonery last game. They tried after the Chara hit and they made fools out of themselves. The only real fight was White kicking the tar out of a guy 2″ taller than him and 32lbs heavier. This team is fine the way it is.

  129. Black Snake Moen says:

    here’s what Joe Thorton was talking about….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB9T7QIjigg

    pure thuggery.  it’s disgusting.  For that cross check to not even get a look by head office is despicable.  No wonder the article wanted to deflect all evidence on this one and turn it into a totally different incident and spin the blame on Thornton.  And meanwhile you have those homer idiot announcers, led by the most pathetic man in hockey, Jack Edwards saying things like “the Bruins coming to each others aide and defending themselves” trying make their their mob-mentality seem honorable, and while Eric Brewer steps up to a bigger man, and justifiably for his teamate’s sake, Edwards can’t wait for “turtle time!!! oh he wants to come out of his shell”.  This below-human attitude perpetuates the almost neanderthal Bruin Nation.  They’re liars and bully’s and morons and their really just insecure about losing for the last 40 years and for being in the history books as a joke for letting the Flyers embarrass their ass for all eternity.

  130. Timo says:

    They don’t know about it but I owe a lot of my french to RDS. Listening to Cherry and PJ Stock will hardly contribute to improvement in English skills though… Probably quite the opposite.

  131. Gormdog says:

    In his last 22 GP, Heart-but-not-Vezina Price has given up 4 goals only once.

     

    These are the stats I want to see the media hyping for Price to win the heart.

     

    I can’t see a Sedin winning in two years in a row. Especially not after when Henrik said tsk tsk.

     

    St Louis and Stamkos? Going to split their votes. Stamkos has a better shot but the rest of St louis’ game is better. It’s a real shame because St Louis will get shafted and Stamkos will get the nod and snatch it away…

     

    Lidstrom? He is -1 this year.

     

    Unless madness happens, it’s Price V Stamkos. Tough name to beat but Price has the backstory that will just beg for sportswriters to give him the MVP.

     

    Even a nomination would be, well, the most fun I’ve ever had. This kid was RIPPED to shreads over and over again, good on him and good on Gainey. His 5 year plan was a bit of a bust but we have a few young studs and a goalie, that if we treat well, could make hockey wayyyyy more enjoyable to watch as a Habs fan for the next 10 years…

     

     

     

     

  132. Clay4bc says:

    The REAL greatest stats of all time:

    76-77 Canadiens: 60W-8L-12T – 132 points

    The fact that Larry Robinson never had a minus season, and leads the NHL with a career mark of +730

    __________________________

    The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

  133. Black Snake Moen says:

    this Kevin Dupont guy from the globe is a joke.  Truly incompetent journalism.  First off, the article is a smear on the whole situation, going through a who’s who of the dirty hits Habs players have made over the years, citing Max’s cross check on Eaton.  Like this has any relevance.  He probably lazily googled Habs suspensions and came with up all this bullshit.  Of course he failed to mention Kyle Mclaren on Richard Zednik, so if he wanted to do any un-biased journalism at all, he failed right there like the clown he is.  So instead of adressing the issue, of the apathy towards violence, the NHL’s failure to get it right and set an example, he plays the “he did this-she did that” game because us “Canadians” have overblown all of this.  THEN this is where it gets good.  Where the lies begin.  He then goes on to bash former captain Joe Thornton, who made comments about how the Bruins seem to get away with everything.  Joe’s statement was clear, he mentioned that just days before the Patch incident, he saw Lucic crosscheck Dom Moore to the head while he was engaged with Horton, and Lucic was not suspended.  He said it was awfuly bizzare that the Bruins can run around like they do (given the Papa Campbell circumstances, and Bettman’s allegiance to Bruins ownership) and not even recieve a slap on the wrist, and the Chara hit was just the cherry on top.  So Mr. Kevin Dupont, being the remarkable journalist he is, somehow, presumably by telepathy, determines that Joe was actually speaking about the incident involving Max Lapierre and Lucic in the playoffs 2 years ago, and NOT Lucic on Dominic Moore only days ago.  Lapierre was cross-checked by Lucic and recieved a 1-game suspension in the playoffs.  Dupont was quick to say something along the lines of “Hey Joe, Lucic WAS suspended for the cross-check, so what’re you talking about!?”

    uhhmmm? are you kidding?

    this idiot took Joe’s comments and fabricated them completely to match his rhetoric about Canadians whining too much.  JOE was talking about Dominic Moore, NOT Max Lapierre?!?!  These are not easily confused, and you have to be awfully stupid or just plain lying to do something like this.  The Dominic Moore incident was a perfect example of how the Bruins run around with nobody to answer to, and Joe had a point with this, but Kevin Dupont once again took the information, fabricated it along the lines of his agenda, and attempted to make Joe Thornton look like the crazy one once again.  “It happened two years ago Joe?! and he did get suspended!? what’s your point”  hahaha.  It sure makes it easy to rag on Joe when you compeltely made up what he was talking about.  Sounds an awful lot like a FOX news smear campaign; tamper with the information, fabicrate the lies, make it work with the agenda of the story, etc. etc.

    No wonder Thornton didn’t want to play in that joke of a town, he’s got the losers over there making stuff up about what he says!! Truly pathetic.  We as Habs fans have to stand up to morons like this.  This incident has polarized the hockey community.  Habs fans are the smartest hockey, so let’s make sure the idiots in Boston know that we won’t take this stuff on our knees.  After all, they’re too stupid to handle everything we throw at them.

  134. Watchdog says:

    Something to think about. Price’s contract is up after next year. If he wins MVP and he is that good next year too, the Habs will not be able to sign him. Look at Theodore and what MVP did for him. He went into the stratoshpere with his salary. Scott Gomez contract will still not be up.

  135. Bill says:

    The “Heart”? Really??

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  136. HardHabits says:

    I disagree that there is a way to limit injuries. Play run and gun. Then when the other team tries to intimidate knock them the f-ck out. It’s hockey not curling or figure skating.

  137. Watchdog says:

    Seriously. You have to get a Facebook site going called Boycott Moores or something. Also send a message to the Fremch side (radio, newspapers) to join the site. They love to stick it to Cherry. This thing can unite French/English in Quebec once more.

  138. HardHabits says:

    I just watched Zack and Miri Make a Porno. You should watch it. You’ll laugh and cry too.

    Of course Don Cherry is a hero. Canadians are good people but deep down inside they’re as moulded by propaganda as the next person trying to fit in.

  139. Duracell3 says:

    Massive understatement imo. That said, there is a very large political context that bleeds over as well.

  140. HardHabits says:

    That the Habs are not built to make it through 4 series in a row at the moment is something I’ve been saying for a while here. Unless of course they get home ice advantage and to do that they need to finish in the top 5 over-all.

    That’s the sweet spot. Since the Conference format was introduced only two teams outside the top 5 won the Cup. The 1994 Devils at 9th over-all (that was a lock-out shortened year so that probably shouldn’t count) and the Pittsburgh Penguins two years ago at 8th over-all. Every other team was top 5.

    Home ice advantage is huge in the play-offs.

    So if the Habs keep on building as they are, keeping in the top 10 over-all and eventually moving into the elite they will be able to go 4 rounds and Price is the type of goal-tender that can carry a team all the way.

    On the short term I want to see the team toughen up so as to not get unduly roughed up. None of these young kids saw the Broadstreet Bullies or the Big Bad Bruins, nor did they see the Habs team that won 4 straight Cups in the late 70′s. You and I have.

    Screw the Americans. A Canadian team will win the Cup and it might just be Vancouver this year. I’d laugh my ass off if it’s the Habs that meets them. Bettman would have a conniption.

    I’d also love to see the Habs win the Cup on home ice or lose the Cup on home ice and hear the crowd yell, “F*ck. You. Bett. Man. F*ck. You. Bett. Man.” You know it’d happen.

  141. Watchdog says:

    I’m willing to bet on that one. Boston Philly Conf final.

  142. 24moreCups says:

    Very true Timo! He has no insightful views on anything let alone hockey.

  143. Watchdog says:

    You guys don’t get it. I talk to Ontario guys every day due to the business I’m in. Most of them agree with Cherry that Quebecers are a spoiled whiny bunch that should leave the country if they don’tlike it. That’s the mindset out there. Toronto excluded. They have half a brain but in those smaller Ontario towns like London, Belleville, Kingston, the Sue, etc… Cherry is a hero. Also, don’t think that Ron Mclean didn;t agree with him. Even if he didn’t, he’d get a quick backhand from Cherry the moment he spoke up.

  144. Watchdog says:

    Hey. The playoffs are coming. This Satudray is a chance for all of us married guys to take our ladies out and explain to them after a couple of bottles of wine how it’s going to be for the next 2 months.

  145. Timo says:

    Just looked at the schedule – no hockey this saturday?! That blows. I have Habsless saturdays. 

    On the other hand, I think we should try and grab every single point from this week cause it doesn’t look all that bad. 

    Where is the Pappa G guy – time to start a new streak.

  146. Watchdog says:

    Thanks to stand on your head goaltending. You can’t fix that. But you also can’t carry that through for 4 series in a row.

    Check how many times we have gotten more PPs than our opponents this year. Not too many. And don’t tell me ot’s because we deserve it every time. Some of the penalties , yes we deserve, but other teams regularly take liberites against us and there are a disproportionate number of games where we have a lot more penalties than the opposition. Oh yeah, why don’t you ask Calgary how they had the series stolen from them against Tampa. If you think the league wants to see an all Canadian final, let’s just say………Denial is not just a river in Africa.

  147. Timo says:

    anybody buys moore’s?

  148. andrewberkshire says:

    I highly doubt improving the toughness of our team would limit any of the injuries. Markov and Gorges were hurt on awkward plays. Pacioretty was hurt on a cheap shot, one that any team is susceptible too. Spacek I believe blocked a shot didn’t he?

    Even if we did go and bring up the toughest guy on the farm, is he going to intimidate Zdeno Chara? For some reason I don’t think so.

    The only roster spot right now that could possibly be upgraded this season is Tom Pyatt. I defend him sometimes because he is good defensively, but 5 points in 52 games… God damn. I assume he’ll be out as soon as Darche comes back though, and that adds some size, grit and scoring ability to the lineup. With guys like White, Mara, Darche, Eller, and Subban, this team is a lot more physical than last year’s version, and doesn’t get the credit it deserves.

  149. Black Snake Moen says:

    where’d the edit option go? I’d like to correct my grammar and spelling, or fill in words I missed so that I don’t come off as a moron and the point of the post comes across optimally

    hah

  150. The Cat says:

    Bill Mosienko’s 3 goals in 21 seconds.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  151. NightRyder says:

    Once there’s a reply to your post, you can’t edit. Interesting points though.

  152. wall2bay says:

    Take it an extra step fwd and contact the parent company.  Moore’s is owned by Men’s Warehouse in the US.  US companies actually have a set of nuts when it comes to these types of issues, case in point Tiger Woods and other athletes/personalities they think will tarnish their image.

    http://www.menswearhouse.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ContactUs_-1_10601_10051_10721_10652_10684_

     

    “I kind of feel sorry for players who never got a chance to be a Montreal Canadien” – Cammalleri

  153. HabFanSince72 says:

    Glad we didn’t get Mike Fisher. Never understood why he was so highly regarded.

    2 assists in 11 games for Nashville.

     

     

  154. Clay4bc says:

    Nice addition to the list!

    __________________________

    The only interesting answers are those which destroy the questions. ~Susan Sontag

  155. DearyLeary says:

    Never been a Fisher fan.  People could never really articulate what he brought to a team that other centers couldn’t.

  156. volcano62 says:

    Would be nice to see Bonneau in a Habs jersey. Seen him play live and he is quite a force to be reckoned with!

  157. Ayan_SB says:

    Best wishes to Sports Illustrasted hockey columnist Michael Farber, who revealed today on CJAD that he is battling cancer. Truly one of the best in the business.

  158. habs365 says:

    it would favor Boston….those two would be in the box half of the game

  159. habsonly says:

    I wonder what will be accomplished the next 3 days in Florida. Will the NHL and the GMs work out a solution to the inconsistent dealings with head shots and goonery or will they work on their golf swing and tans. 

  160. andrewberkshire says:

    Chara, Lucic and Thornton didn’t keep Matt Cooke honest last year. It makes absolutely zero ****ing difference who’s in the lineup.

  161. 24moreCups says:

    Hey I don’t know if any one has seen this video, It’s Sean Avery talking about what he thinks of Ron Berry or what ever his name is lol.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZtq-WAJI0c&feature=fvwrel

    I’m usually not the biggest fan of Avery but I gotta agree with him and respect him a bit more now.

  162. 24moreCups says:

    Yeah it pisses me off, he was doing the same thing with PK every time his name was brought up in the media.

    I think he even said he’s known PK since he was in junior but yet couldn’t get his name right, it’s ridiculous.

    I remember I couldn’t wait for intermission when the habs played a good period to hear some good commentary our a well played game until I realized this idiot has nothing intelligent to say about anything let alone hockey.

  163. emann_222 says:

    Yeah – it used to get under my skin when he would do that to Halak last year during the playoffs. Looking forward to sending him, his Bruins and Leafs to a nice raly golf season. Sadly – even that won’t shut him up from telling us how correct he is about everything.

    Visit me at http://www.bleedbleublancrouge.wordpress.com and http://www.thehockeywriters.com

  164. G-Man says:

    Mario has his GM picking and signing players. Pretty much every team has players that are border-line or just plain crazy. Not all of them get away with what Chara has gotten away with his entire career. It’s nice to be a Bruin these days; you can get away with anything and people will point the finger at the victim or the building, but never them.

  165. SeriousFan09 says:

    Last time I checked, Bell Centre was not a death trap. This was the first time someone’s been injured from being run into the turnbuckle and it wouldn’t even be the first time if Chara hadn’t gone to his off-side and tried to bury Pacioretty.

    Molson is upset because a hockey player could have died right there and everyone seems more interested in blaming the building and swallowing Chara’s increasingly lame excuses.

    CBC blows sunshine up the Leaf’s backside every week becaue of where they are headquarted as well. No one’s brought that up in the media.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  166. The Cat says:

    This is the same parallel that was when mario Lemieux spoke out; everybody said: well yeah but you got Cooke on your team. The same can be now said for molson: well yeah but your building is one of the worst for player safety.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  167. The Cat says:

    Ryan Smythe hit it pretty darn hard also.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  168. observer says:

    of course nba is only other pro sport with benchs on the same side BUT notice how FAR APART they are from each other!

  169. observer says:

    there still is glass beside the players benchs – we are not talking about that and even cherry showed all those hits right at the turnbuckle right at the center of the ice put up there to DIVIDE THE BENCHS. and those asre but a handful. it had no busniss being thwere but bettman made them put it there because he put the benches RIGHT BESIDE EACH OTHER and THEN PUT UP THAT DIVIDER IN ALL RINKS. and pacioretty happened to be thrown into it in the exact worse way.

  170. Omit says:

    Read slowly because I will explain it to you once more. Please re-read until you understand it.

    There was never glass in front of the players’ bench.  However, there was glass to the right side and the left side of the benches.  What do you suppose was holding up the glass that ended at either side of the benches?

     

  171. observer says:

    none of them nearly just had a kid and an outstanding player almost die and/or be paralyzed ! you know i think molson knows just a little more about hockey than some yankee moneygrubbing owner or commissioner!

  172. observer says:

    i repeat that stanchion or turnbuckle or divider NEVER was there because the bechs were on the opposite side of the ice and they are now in ALL arenas because of what i said above. players especially dirty players know where it is and when to use it. molson did not put it there. c/p bost globe a few days ago ———————————————-

     

     

    Go back and look, folks. Last week against Tampa Bay, Milan Lucic executed a similar hit on Dana Tyrell late in the first period [hit takes place with :25 seconds left in the first period in video]. Tyrell hit the turnbuckle, too. The difference was that Tyrell got up and nobody was carried off, and so we all celebrated the hit and cited it as an example of playoff-caliber hockey.

    That hit was as every bit as ill-advised as this one. And so shame on all of us for focusing on the end result instead of the event that led up to it, which undoubtedly will result in Chara receiving some sort of well-earned, multi-game suspension.

  173. Thomas Le Fan says:

    You’re no cat.

  174. Omit says:

    I honestly don’t know where you get your information about anything, but you are wrong again.  There has never been glass in front of the players’ bench since I’ve been watching hockey, regardless on which side of the ice the benches were.  There has always been some form of stanchion to hold up the glass where it ends because you can’t use sky hooks.

  175. The Cat says:

    Bell centre is one of the worst, all the buildings with the seamless glass are the worst for injuries. I believe that most will be returning to plexiglass next year however.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  176. The Cat says:

    The difference being none of the other owners were as vocal or whined (depending on your point of view) about it.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  177. Former Jets Fan says:

    You exaggerate.  His NHL totals : 1 playoff game for Boston in 1955.   No points, no PIM’s.  The end.  He did get 6 points in the WHL though.

  178. observer says:

    thats called alsheimers coming on. cherry the 77 year old former minor leaguer cherry blamed molson for the turnbuckle being dangerous but he had already forgot that just 2 minutes earlier he had showed clips and talked about roughly a dozen players smashed into turnbuckles and none of those clips were from montreal.

  179. observer says:

    Don’t call him a dinosaur! He’s only 77 years old! And he is a NHL hockey expert having scored a total of zero goals and 6 assists in his entire NHL hockey career as a player.

  180. observer says:

    That turnbucle is in EVERY arena mandated by the league in fact I believe(look closely today)in every arena there is a Reebok(or someone else?) Ad beneath it on the boards. The turnbuckle was put there because basketball has 2 benchs on the SAME side, so Bettman made every team in the NHL do the same and put that turnbuckle in to separate them.

  181. Jonson says:

    did you want change this bad when jack johnson hit ryan smyth into the turnbuckle?

  182. Mattyleg says:

    I’m kinda with 365 on this one.

    Talking about it incessantly on a fan-forum isn’t going to change anything.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  183. larisalapointe says:

    Mandril

  184. Everlasting1 says:

    Some more than others lol

    Rest assured, the league won’t die due to injuries.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  185. fbkj says:

    nobody has said it would… can you focus on the subject a little?

  186. Everlasting1 says:

    He topped it. Sorry.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  187. punkster says:

    Injuries plus incompetent league managment plus failing sun belt franchises plus disciplinary inconsistencies plus incompetent officiating plus outrageous ticket prices plus uncaring NHLPA plus failure to land big US television contracts plus…there are many reasons. The pushback seems to be on the rise.

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  188. Everlasting1 says:

    The NWO? I’m on hockey’s dire straits, and putting humpty dumpty back together again.

     

      Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  189. fbkj says:

    what? no seriously what?

  190. punkster says:

    Wait a minute. You said I had the overstatement of the year. I feel somehow cheated. I worked hard for that title.

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  191. Everlasting1 says:

    Overstatement of the year.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  192. punkster says:

    Hmmm. You like to come off as the all knowing, all seeing, omnipotent god-like entity. Problem is you’re human, like me, and as such prone to error. I may be wrong and so might you.

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  193. larisalapointe says:

    It has to start somewhere MADD didn’t start until her child was killed by a drunk driver. Yes, when it’s closr to home, it makes you angrier. It’s been months people here have been upset about Crosby even though he’s definitely not loved by all Habs fans, but if you love Hockey, he is sorely missed.

  194. fbkj says:

    i certainly did, no not this bad, but thats a natural reaction when it happens to your team

    being said its not just montreal fans that are looking at charagate as the catalyst

  195. Chuck says:

    Your “overstatement of the year” is the overstatement of the year.

  196. punkster says:

    Since McLaren took out Zednick with a disgusting elbow to the head. That was around 2002 and oddly enough it was the Bruins…again. I lost interest in the game until after the strike. This most recent incident brought back my disgust for the league. The game I love. The league is bush, unprofessional and if we don’t do something to change it the league will die.

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  197. Everlasting1 says:

    Overstatement of the year.

    The only thing you would change is that it happened to someone else..perhaps a Philly or Bruin.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  198. EricInStL says:

    Not really as the ones closer are always the most expensive. So it would be a trickle up pricing.

    Hockey teams would not, I repeat not, lose any money.

    “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”–Winston Churchill

  199. rocketsglare says:

    Andrew, how is it a crappier game?

    Go Habs Go!

  200. andrewberkshire says:

    30 NHL arena’s plus all the AHL arenas. You’re also taking out prime seating at the highest prices. It would be billions.

  201. andrewberkshire says:

    The bigger the ice surface the crappier the hockey.

  202. fbkj says:

    and as a result you are displacing all season ticket holders

    not gonna happen

  203. rocketsglare says:

    Wouldn’t a larger ice surface benefit a team like the Habs with their speed? I would think it would stretch the D and

    make defending a speedier team more difficult with less open hits and board play.

    Go Habs Go!

     

  204. EricInStL says:

    Billions Andrew ?

    Maybe 5 – 10 max, ok for the Quebec Construction industry 50. But that would be it…

    “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”–Winston Churchill

  205. ds says:

    I’m not saying Chara wasn’t playing extra hard vs Pac because he was.  Pac who is a rookie, disrespected Chara on that OT winner.  I would want to be extra tough on him but that’s how hockey is. 

     

    The arena itself is unsafe, and the turnbuckle has become the new weapon of choice, see Doughty getting drilled last night but it’s nothing new.  The NHL should pad the turnbuckle and take whatever measures to ensure the safety of the players.  That’s what I agree about with Don Cherry.  Even a broken clock is right 2x/day.

     

    Pac is hurt, let’s try to fix it so it doesn’t happen to someone else. 

     

    This hit on Niewendyk is much worse than Pac, Hunter is guiding his head into the turnbuckle purposely and blatantly. 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWONUizUMjo

  206. showey47 says:

    Have you ever tried doing changes on the fly with 5 players on the ice and another 13 on the bench without the ability of jumping over the boards? I’m all for finding a solution to protect players but i don’t think glass in front of the players bench would be an option. Besides,where would we spit from the bench? lol

  207. fbkj says:

    i can see the coaches hanging off the top of the glass yelling at the refs :P

  208. showey47 says:

    Instead we had an older and fatter one:) Wouldn’t matter,he won’t fight anyone who didn’t want to fight. I’d rather have ryan white,he has stood up for his mates more often in  the last 3 games then laraque did in 2 years.

  209. habs365 says:

    Bettman – Smarten up and put the benches on both sides of the rink like they always were…there would be no need for glass and it would save injuries…it’s your fault players are getting hurt becaues of the benches being on the same side with the glass partition…

  210. TripleX says:

    RIP Rick Martin.  Wish I could have seen you play.  One of the great players on the best named line in NHL history, the “French Connection Line”.

  211. SeriousFan09 says:

    Now it just sounds like a plexiglass monkey cage.

    On the other hand, we could just fill the visitors bench with water when Boston comes to town…

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  212. Everlasting1 says:

    The NHL’s image, like the govt’s, is just fine. They’ll just find an escapegoat and the agenda continues.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  213. Caballero says:

    Chara had a bone to pick. Pacioretty said himself that he felt Chara’s hand guiding his head into the turnbuckle. Images and slow mo video confirm this. When you combine the evidence of Pac’s admittedly stupid shove to Chara after his goal, the Bruins making a point of not just beating, but physically beating up and humiliating the Canadiens, then the comments by various Bruins before the game saying Montreal is a dirty team and they deserve what they get, the threats, the 4-0 score, and finally the hit by Chara on Pac, followed by Lucic targeting Pouliot and that other goon targeting PK Subban, two other “marked” players, there is a strong case to be made. Certainly he didn’t want to break his neck, but he wanted to hurt him.

  214. Ton says:

    ah quiz of the day, you win the don cherry rock em sock em box set series.  con grats

  215. habs001 says:

    rinne with nashville has to be seriously considerd for the vezina…

  216. V says:

    There isn’t a rule to cover what Chara did other than the interference rule… that’s my point. There needs to be rules related to checking people into the stanchions and into the benches just like there are rules against checking people into the boards in a certain way. Those hits are particularly dangerous. Always have been.

    Chara did not care about hitting him there because the rules that currently exist are not strong enough to prevent it. Without a shift in the rules, player behaviour won’t change much. Even in the unlikely scenario that one team decides to establish norms and rules that make play safe, unless others follow their lead they will just put themselve at a competitive disadvantage. No team is going to do that.

    To change the behaviors of 600 or so hockey players, you need a shift in league rules.

  217. Favorite Son says:

    I have to admit it is weird that hockey is the only sport that allows fighting…(not counting UFC or boxing). At this point I’m not sure if I’d want it taken out of the game, but it’s something to think about. Football is a tough sport and fighting is not allowed so why tolerate it in hockey? There’s obviously a lot of repercussions on health so maybe changing the punishment would be a start…10 minute misconduct? They wouldn’t need to be thrown out of he game entirely…I don’t know, just an idea.

  218. Ian Cobb says:

    CONCUSSION—PLEASE WATCH THIS VIDEO CLIP

    Please click onto this link and scroll down to the English video—

    The french text, click onto your translate button on google for the english.

    http://www.ckac.com/football/nouvelles/vid-o-la-dure-realite-d-un-commotionne-du-foot-62684.html

    Regards, from a very upset and concered 67yr. old hockey fan, hockey billet, minor coach & referee and hockey players grand parent. This is no longer the game that I loved all my life.

  219. OneTimer says:

    A 3-2-1 system sounds really cool, if you think of it as getting an extra point for winning in regulation (and otherwise it would be the same as it is now). But it’s too big a change to implement, and the league is too conservative. Too bad.

  220. Bill says:

    Right, because Chara – the biggest, strongest man in the league – is going to be intimidated by Chris Neil? Boston has enforcers, and it didn’t stop Savard or Bergeron from getting gooned. Explain that one using your “enforcer logic”.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  221. Ton says:

    sad news on rick martin. consdolences to his family.  what a line that was and did they ever give the habs fits in the early 70′s. they eliminated montreal in 74.  top lines ever;

     

    flower lemaire/Small M  shutt

    dionne taylor zimmerman

    trottier bosy gillies

    martin rober perrault

    gretzy kurri anderson

    stevens lemieux jagr

    espo hodge cashman/buisk

    clark leach barber

     

  222. Top Corner says:

    Great post THF !

  223. showey47 says:

    I kind of wonder if a safer type stanchion would just be used to the advantage of a player who would use it to throw a cheap shot hit. Since its not as dangerous and less likely to cause injury. Kind of like how players take healthier runs and other players due to being so well protected by their own equptiment. I’m also not sold on cherry’s statement that an extra couple inches of foam on a stanchion like they have in philly would prevent a severe injury to a player skating 25 to 30 mph while being pushed into a stationary object by someone weighing 260 lbs.

  224. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Thanks! The neverending string of straw men and red herrings that flow from Cherry’s mouth is beyond annoying. Sufficed to say, when Mike freaking Milbury comes across as the voice of reason, there’s a problem! :)

  225. t1tan5 says:

    Actually, I wouldn’t have minded having younger, faster Laraque on the team.

  226. observer says:

    CBC EVENTUALLY WILL CAN HIM. JUST LIKE OTHER POSs KEITH OLBERMANN WAS BY NBC OR CHARLIE SHEEN AND HIS TOP RATED COMEDY BY CBS.

  227. Everlasting1 says:

    (yawn) Enjoy your season tickets.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  228. Everlasting1 says:

    A corporation’s image is what helps sell products. That is their priority. Bottom line, once again. 

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  229. Bill H says:

    That fringe element almost elected Cherry our Greatest Canadian.  If I am not mistaken he was just behind Tommy Douglas, in the same range as Dr. Suzuki.  I agree he is a cartoon.  Sadly, a lot of people take him seriously.

  230. observer says:

    Gilbert Perrault, Rick Martin, Rejean Houle from those outstanding Montreal Junior Canadiens teams.

  231. A. Berke says:

    Very good post THF, however do you really expect that antiquated racist moron cherry understands physics. He’s an idiot at best and he hates everything Montreal/Habs. 

    What p*sses me off is that he’s national tv and paid (probably handsomely) by our tax dollars. 

    Ali B.

  232. Danno says:

    I absolutely detest the extra point. It has had a corrupting influence on the game.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  233. observer says:

    if the arena was unsafe then why 80% into the season or several seasons since its been like this- why didnt the league make them correct whatever was unsafe? seems to me it is 100% bettman’s fault. and if pacioretty sues he will sue the league — HERE —-and WIN!

  234. observer says:

    Deja vu all over again! Bettman’s 3 point games – Emrick had earlier said that close to 40% of the games since mid-season(I believe) have been 3 point games as if teams both wanted that sure point any didn’t try harder to win in regulation time I guess? But there is a far bigger reason, last Sunday afternoon Caps were beating Florida and much the better team late but only leading 2-1 as it got down to the final 2 minutes, SO OF COURSE IT WAS TIME FOR THE REFS TO GET INVOLVED and call a penalty that they were not calling all game before, BUT Caps still too good for them SO the refs had to make the Capitals 2 men short anfd sure enough Florida tied it up 2-2. SO today less than 7 days later the refs do the exact samething to Washington again in another 2-2 game. Luckily for them they still ended up winning both games anyway inspite of Bettman’s absolute BS.

  235. Everlasting1 says:

    Idk what you’re expecting in reply..there may or may not be changes ie. stiffer fines/suspensions, but it’s not going to stop being a contact sport, and there will be season tix available for you in the years to come, so enjoy.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  236. fbkj says:

    which many do as well

  237. fbkj says:

    i dont think anybody is making an argument for hockey to cease being a contact sport

    what people are asking for is an injection of respect and accountability

    at the end of the day this is what it all boils down to

  238. christophor says:

    I agree, it’s ridiculous. I just don’t see how someone can think Daniel Sedin has been more important to his team than Carey Price given Henrik likely being second in scoring at the end of the year. Same for Thomas, given his defence and work load, and Stamkos given St. Louis.

    The closest thing to how the Hart should be chosen is the 3 star selection on NHL.com. If there’s a runaway point getter, they generally get 1st star, but after that it’s a matter of who was most important in their respective game given comparible stats. Look who happens to be running away with the lead in this season’s 3 star standings:

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/threestarsstandings.htm

    Given that there’s no runaway point getter this year, that will give the goalies a shot. If Thomas doesn’t win simply because of the feel good aspect of his season, Price has a real shot at two awards. If the feel-good part of the Thomas story is what’s important, then give him the Masterton and be done with it. It’s incredible that one of the driving forces in his Vezina candidacy is actually how BAD he was last season. Ridiculous.

    Edit: The scary thing in all of this is what Price’s salary will be in two years, especially if he wins something and doesn’t have an off year next year. I’m tempted towards wanting him to sign a Depietro style contract this summer.

  239. Exit716 says:

    This has not been a good week for hockey.

    Rick Martin of the French Connection has died of a heart attack.

     

    http://blogs.buffalonews.com/sabres/2011/03/bulletin-rick-martin-has-died.html

  240. ed lopaz says:

    don’t look now, SF, but I think the Flyers might have found themselves another Claude Giroux.

    Michael Chaput, drafted 3rd round by the freakin Flyers in 2010.

    He grew up about 15 minutes from the Bell Center

    Write the name down, the kid can play.

    http://www.lhjmq.qc.ca/roster/show/id/6977

     

     

  241. NightRyder says:

    No. We all salivate over the goons, but they are essentially useless other than to entertain us as sideshows.

    Depth (as in, guys who can play) and team toughness are more important than sheer thuggery.

    If they can play and fight, all the better.

    Sure I’d love to see someone take out Lurch for the sheer bloodlust factor and all but I’d rather beat them in the playoffs and then watch the gangly freak have to walk the post-series handshake line for some real humiliation.

  242. Miltie01 says:

    That is too bad……prayers to his family.

  243. Everlasting1 says:

    There may be more accountability, and perhaps a tweak of an on-ice rule.

    Back in the day the Romans would have preferred serrated or spiked stanchions. They liked their entertainment bloodier :-P

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  244. fbkj says:

    yes

    which would explain their concerns about being associated with brands who may dammage their image by proxy

    full circle

    hence why air canada spoke out

  245. Miltie01 says:

    Rules are absolutely meaningless I am afraid. The is a rule against what Chara did, it is called interference, plain in simple. Max did not have the puck, he was not eligible to be hit….simple. Where did the rules get us ?

     

    Chara was so bent on paying the kid back that he did not care whether he broke the rule, he did not care that he could hurt the kid badly…..or worse.

     

    When the players get their heads out of their ass then we will see change……then and only then.

  246. Everlasting1 says:

    Driving the point home here. It’s all about intent. Corporations really really don’t care about Patches’ neck. Don’t believe the bs. They only care about raising their stock value, and they’ll say/do anything to improve their image, feigning any moral stance.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  247. larisalapointe says:

    Whatever helps the safety of the players is an excellent start. I’m not an engineer but if Chara had rammed Max into a slanted stanchion he would have probably broken all his ribs and sustained internal injuries and bleeding, just as serious as a brain injury or worse. The stanchion though was not the culprit here. Cherry, as usual, is a hypocrite.

    Let’s let the experts redesign stuff. ;)

  248. habs365 says:

    No-that would be playing like two 10-year olds

  249. Everlasting1 says:

    Corporations don’t care about player safety. They only care about the bottom line.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  250. punkster says:

    Like it or not? I don’t like it. Taking up a valuable roster spot for an enforcer or tough guy is nothing but an admission that the game has degenerated to the level of WWF or UFC. Violence for show or for violence sake. Yes the game uses these tactics today and escalation, retaliation, sending a brutal message is acceptable. We hire an enforcer and they hire two, We hire three and they hire four.And all the while to what purpose? To improve the game? HA!

    No I don’t like the game this way. I want it changed.

     

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  251. Everlasting1 says:

    Then blame his employer, the CBC. We are the ones supporting/paying them.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  252. NightRyder says:

    Normally, sure. But Theo’s Hart was strictly a media creation.

    It gained steam starting in Montreal, spread through Canada (“Hart Trophy candidate Jose Theodore made 27 stops as the Canadiens beat the Canucks 3-1 etc.), then was picked up on by the knobs in the states and it went from there.

    If (and obviously, Stubbs, Hickey and Boone are above reproach here) a Montreal Gazette writer penned a long piece on Price’s candidacy, it would immediately spread across the Postmedia wire through Canada. It would get picked up on out here, and the talk radio knobs would toss the B.C. boy in to their conversations about Daniel Sedin and Ryan Kesler. TSN’s reporters might start sniffing around.

    Cherry might say “that Garry Price is having a good season.”

    Some lazy American schlub would pick up the cause in the States because of the Halakamania connection and it would go from there.

    It’s why the hype machines in the U.S. start pushing Heisman candidates before the season. Voters can easily be swayed.

    Plus, the kid actually deserves the consideration.

  253. adamkennelly says:

    Yes folks – if the Habs had an enforcer who played regularly – there is a good chance in my opinion this event would not have materialized.  Its all in the attitude – correct or not, Habs are viewed as soft by their opponents who feel like they can do as they please.  If we have few guys in the line-up strictly to “protect” our skilled guys – even in attitude alone – I believe the opportunity for what took place may not not arise.  Our enforcer addresses the incident w/ Chara – or whomever – in the next game and its done.

    For example – even after what Chara did – Lucic tries to go after Pouliot – no way that takes place if Habs had a tough guy on their bench.

    Like it or not – we have to play teams who use physical intimidation and rough play as a tactic against us- it certianly does not always work but as a team I feel like its not in our best interest to ignore it.

    There is a very short list of guys who can help in this space and play – we saw the demand for them at the dealine (2nd round pick asking price for Neil and Kenopka)…but our team needs to bring a few of them in for next season.

    A

     

  254. otter649 says:

    Sad news former Sabres great Rick Martin has died in a car accident as reported on NBC Buffalo which is carrying The Caps/Hawks Game this afternoon…….

  255. Miltie01 says:

    So now we are taking numbers and picking sides and there is no room for discussion……if you are not for us you are against us……talking about idiots.

  256. V says:

    Yes. Some absolutely have more regard for their contracts than for the safety of players on other teams. And if they don’t play on the edge, they won’t have their contracts. And when they play on the edge, others are incented to match their aggression. 

    There are no rules that will prevent any and every injury… but you can regulate the game so it’s safer and to a point were some of the bad apples can’t stay in the league because they can’t compensate with other parts of their game. Case in point, if there was no hitting at all, there would be very few concussions caused by hits… not advocating that, just saying that the rules are key. Overall player conduct will align to the boundaries set by the rules.

  257. OneTimer says:

    A good first post, but I disagree with a lot of your points.

    - if Chara intended to injure Max, and Max specifically, the blame is first and foremost on the Bruins defenseman…and not the stanchion. Given the opportunity, Chara could have tried to injure Max and make it look like an accident in other places around the rink, too.

    - I don’t agree with Cherry’s zero-games-or-twenty rationale, either. I think 2-4 games was warranted, given all the factors involved in the hit, and if anything it would’ve been an explicit condemnation of that kind of play by the NHL. They had a golden opportunity to make a statement against dangerous and reckless plays. It also would have been an appeasement to MTL hockey fans, who have every right to be outraged at the hit, but even moreso after the non-suspension!

    - and no, I’m sorry, but I like to think I can call a hit dirty regardless of whether a Hab is on the giving end, receiving end, or neither

    - I do agree that maybe we should give the slanted stanchions a shot, though.

    Welcome aboard!

     

  258. OneTimer says:

    Haha, that clip is gold. Thanks for that old classic. Ooh, can you post P.J. Stock’s “Caps in three” prediction?

  259. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    You know it’s gonna happen, Habs will beat the Bruins in the playoffs, I have no doubt about it. Call it pay back, karma, whatever, the Bruins won’t win. Seguin goes back in and a thug comes out, they won’t be taking liberties like they do in the regualr season, they can’t afford to take penalties in the playoffs. We will beat them in 5 with our speed and goaltending….someone please stop me, I’m getting way too ahead of myself here…still gonna happen, mark my words!

  260. Everlasting1 says:

    Constructively exploiting cheap labor, perhaps.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  261. Danno says:

     

     

    It’s worse than that. He is using our tax dollars to sell his crap on a program we are paying him for.

    At least corporations pay for their own ads.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  262. pottymonster says:

    ive been lurking here forever, thought i would join the other day and post about the whole hit thing, then decided to stop and sit back. read opinions, listen to comments on the radio, watch on tv, see various other pieces of evidence. now i think im ready to comment…

    the problem isnt the hit. its the complete lack of respect from player to player. they go out there and try to line up hits to kill the other guy. whenever you see one of those big open ice hits, or the big hit on the boards, its not a hockey play. they arent just trying to seperate the guy from the puck, but the guy from his senses. if you’ve gonna penalize chara, you should start penalizing everybody for every big hit cause they’re all done with intent to injure.

    the hit itself was only a big deal because of where it happened. was chara trying to wreck him, i dont doubt it. did chara know it was him? i dont doubt it. did chara know the turnbuckle was there? yes. so was chara lying about all that stuff? yes again. so i guess the way i see it, the location of the hit is to blame. that said, don cherry has it right: more padding is needed. if that stanchion was padded like the one he showed in philly, or slanted like the one he spoke about, i doubt theres a serious injury. a lot of people don’t give don the credit he deserves. he says a lot of stuff that makes sense but people hate on him because immediately after saying something intelligent he says something that will offend fans of some teams.

    i guess i agree with don that it should have been 0 or 20 games. it makes sense. a 3 game suspension would be symbolic, and symbolism doesnt get anybody anywhere. if you’re gonna do something, make sure you do it right. do i think it should have been 20 games? i guess. so in that sense i think the league got it wrong.

    but on that note, look at the montage that cherry showed of hits on the stanchions. if you’re gonna get up in arms about what happened to max, you better get up and talk about the rest of those hits the same way. that’s where i view the whole molson letter and fan reaction as self serving. mario lemieux stood up when his guy got hurt. montreal stands up when there guy gets hurt. thats how its gonna be. somebody has to stand up for somebody else, and not just themselves. that’s how change will be affected. so to all of you who have been freaking out about it now, where were you for the past 5 years? if you werent complaining then, did you only change your mind now because it happened to our guy or have you truly had a change of opinion? would your opinion have changed if the roles were reversed, max hitting chara? im pretty sure we’d all be reacting the same way boston fans are reacting now. so examine yourself. like the guy in boston globe points out, have we all forgotten the hit that max laid on eaton? i know i did. or latendresse on dimaio? i know i did. so i find it hypocritical of myself to speak out against chara now.

    like i mention before, i guess the configuration of our stanchions deserve plenty of blame. if they were padded responsibly, we wouldnt be in this situation. molson ought to fix that ASAP. same with the boards, they’re too stiff. everybody everywhere has been saying this forever, but has anything been done about them here? nope. so do something now. right your own house before you start fixing other peoples.

    so where does this leave me? its hypocritical of me to stand up and shout for change now due to the circumstances, so if changes are going to be made, we need to start at home. fix the bell center stanchions and boards. we need to teach our team to have respect for other teams, we need to stop hits like max on eaton and latendresse on dimaio. then we can use ourselves as an example for other teams to follow. that way lies credibility.

  263. Everlasting1 says:

    I call it more of the same..but he’s not a corporation, but a peddler.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  264. Bugs says:

    “Don Cherry is so friggin..!”

    We pause for station identification.

    Remember this guy? After Boys took Game 1 vs Cappers?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQLEzOgZbm8

    Good times.

    We now return you to our regularly sheduled programming.

    “…and THAT’S why he wears such big collars!”

  265. Miltie01 says:

    Players abdicating personal responsability in the name of winning is the problem.

    Are you telling me that NHL players hold their million dollar contracts in more regard than another players health and well being ? If that is the case then we really are pointing our fingers at the wrong people.

  266. punkster says:

    Oh, you…you…

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  267. ds says:

    Don Cherry made 2 valid points.  The first is how padded philly’s turnbuckle is and the second is how stiff mtl’s boards are.  There was no intent to injure by Chara so stop crying like it’s a criminal offense.  Instead the NHL should concentrate on how to avoid such an injury happening again.  That is done by making the arenas safer.

  268. Wayne says:

    What’s killing me in all this, is their unwillingness to acknowledge the history between these two players. Chara didn’t run any other Hab into the pipe. It was Max. The opportunity to run him into it was there and he took it. It was wrong. End of story. That’s it for me, I’m not pissing in the wind anymore. For myself, this hit has basically blown the season for me from an entertainment aspect. I’ve been a fan of this sport and the Habs for more than four decades. I’ve seen its ups and downs during this period. I fear that my continued support for this sport will be directly proportional to its evolution,.. or devolution.

  269. Danno says:

     

     

     

    It’s called opportunism and self promoting/advertising.

     

    Okay. So what do you call this right after the intro at the 30 second mark…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOQFQR4iHQE&playnext=1&list=PL9262B7C51E9080CF

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  270. V says:

    Just read the Boston Globe article from link above… boy, can’t agree with that either.

    I don’t think it is up to the players to police themselves on head shots. You can’t ask people to ‘take it easy’ on one another on the one hand and then on the other incent them with multi-million dollar contracts to do ‘whatever it takes’ to win. It’s like removing speed limits and expecting motorists – who are incented to get to where they want to go as fast as they can – to take it easy.

    Elite atheletic teams will always play to the margins of the rules (and over them if they can get away with it) to win. If you want things to be safer, you have to design rules to make them safer. The responsibility for that lies squarely with the league. And if a third of the teams in the NHL weren’t specifically built for thuggery – and those owners weren’t incented to keep the current mushy rules that give their teams a competitive advantage – we wouldn’t even be talking about this.

  271. SeriousFan09 says:

    Carey isn’t going to win the Hart IMO, he deserves consideration but he won’t win it.

    The Hart Trophy has become the hockey reporter’s way of voting for who they think is the best player in the league or just as a side award to the scoring title.

    In the 1970s, the Art Ross and the Hart went to Orr in 1970, Lafleur in ’77 and ’78. It got skewed in the 80s as Gretzky just set the world on fire and went 7 for 7 between 81 and 87. The 90s it went all over the place (as it should be!) and the same in the early 2000s, now post-lockout, here’s the Art Ross and here’s the Hart, we glued them together to make it easier.

     

     

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  272. Top Corner says:

    Full out ‘head spinnin’ on a peice of cardboard while Fleury was getting chased…..then YES!

  273. Everlasting1 says:

    It’s called opportunism and self promoting/advertising.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  274. V says:

    Well, I only have myself to blame.

    I don’t watch the CBC hockey broadcast and against my better judgment (flipping over to Cherry on this issue is like pulling a bandaid off a festering sore – you know it’s going to be gross but you just have to take a look) followed the link above to the Coach’s Corner segment.

    Of course the whole think is foolish and it has to be taken that way. You can’t separate what he says from how he looks and how he says it… it’s all playfull farce. And his message – as wrong as it is – only influences those that already think the way he does. Aside from honoring soldiers, I don’t think he is having much impact inside or outside the game.

    I feel a little bad for Cherry truth be told. I imagine he is wealthy and probably has some fun with the attention he gets from his fans. And there is nothing wrong with any of that. But I wonder if he has sense for the opportunity he is missing to make the game better. He has the ultimate bully pulpit – given his position on CBC he could have more influence on the public’s opinion of hockey than anyone. Including Bettman. If his views on hockey were remotely aligned with society’s views on the standards of conduct expected from professional atheletes and professional sports entertainment, he could be a real leader for positive change – inside and outside the game. 

    Instead we get a cartoon playing to the fringe element. Which is OK – cartoons are fine. But I wish he were dong more, especially now when the NHL needs leadership from anywhere they can get it.

  275. joeybarrie says:

    Don Cherry is simply saying nonsense to get ratings. It’s completely useless. His comments against Malkin’s cheap shots are well known, same goes for Ovechkin. Every single time he rips them cause they do cheap shots after the whistle, OR WHEN THE GAME IS OVER CAUSE THEY ARE WINNING BY 3 GOALS….

    Yet when this comes up, he puts together a montage of hits against the stanchion, and then complains that Montreal has the worst ones in the league. THEN rips on Air Canada for commenting on absolutely useless hits that can permanently injure someone.

    I guess CHERRY had no problem when they suspended Ovechkin and said thet it did not matter that he did not INTEND to injure the player, but because the player did in fact get injured OVECHKIN has to be responsible for that. OF COURSE THE SAME DOES NOT GO FOR CHARA, he doesnt have to be responsible for his after the play guide into the most dangerous part of the rink actions.

    Pick and choose when to be responsible and when not to be. THIS IS THE PROBLEM.

    WHAT REALLY FRICKEN FUNNY IS HOW MANY COMMENT CHERRY HAS HAD OVER THE YEARS FOR ULF SAMUELSON BECAUSE HE HIT CAM NEELY…………. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM  ONE WAS WITH BOSTON. BIG PROBLEM, ONE WITH MONTREAL, NO PROBLEM………..

    What I would like to see is someone ask him on air about his comments against HITS TO BRUINS PLAYERS… HE HAD ALOT TO SAY ABOUT HITS TO NEELY, SAVARD, and others.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  276. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    I don’t remember Zimmerman in LA, wasn’t Charlie Simmer?

  277. habs001 says:

    this is the way i would like the east standings to finish  phil wash mont bost pitts tb nyr buff…if no upsets in the  first round we play wash second…one upset(1st or 2nd ranked team) we play bost/pitts winner…2 upsets we play buff

  278. Ton says:

    listen to this; this edwards needs a lawsuit brought forth against him. what a classless individual.  i cannot find the clib of what he said about max loosing his head one day,  but its grounds for some sort of action. either a lawsuit or a punch in the mouth. what organization wants a play by play announcer like him?

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8gEfh4L0_0&feature=related

  279. Everlasting1 says:

    Some perspective..hockey is a violent contact sport. Always has been. There has always been intent to injure (whether that was the case or not). The sport demands it, the league promotes it, the fans want it. They cheer a hard check. They cheer fights. Fights are a glaring intent to injure..with no boundaries. Punches to the face, ripping off of helmets for head shots. It’s only a matter of time before one falls or gets flippped to the ice head first and suffers something more serious. But that’s acceptable..the play is dead. Calling on the police and politicians is laughable.

    Anyone really surprised by Cherry’s take? He’s a throwback with old world views and a staunch military supporter of the highest order. Would a lengthy suspension be a deterrent for such hits? No. Though the idea of angled stanchions is keen.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  280. sillywalk says:

    Weird, because most of the Western conference games I’ve watched shows players play hockey, and rarely “finish the check”, which we all know is a euphemism for, “hit him anyway, but the ref won’t do anything about it.” When the puck moves on, so it seems do most skaters in the West, as they look for a way to make a play WITH the puck. I’ve even seen guys bend over to slow the tripped guy down before he plows into the boards. Ever see that in the East? Violence has nothing to do with hockey. Checking may, but violence does not.

  281. G-Man says:

    How about just eliminating the point- no more ties- play hockey until there’s a winner- no point to the loser. That’s it, that’s all.

     

  282. NightRyder says:

    We’re never going to change Don Cherry.

    Let’s start a new campaign and see if it can gather some media steam.

    Carey Price for the Hart Trophy.

    Given the amount of injuries in front of him and the number of shots he’s faced, it’s not a far-fetched notion nor a strictly homeristic plea.

    C’mon folks, let’s start pushing this. It worked in 2002 and Theodore had only 30 wins.

    Price could get close to 40.

    Boone? Stubbs? Hickey?

     

     

  283. Captain aHab says:

    Not sure if this has been linked to yet but here’s a story in La Presse about Reebok also wanting to see the league improve safety for players. However, they don’t threaten to pull out and say they want to be part of the solution. I wonder if Bettman will tell them to mind their own business?

     

    http://lapresseaffaires.cyberpresse.ca/economie/201103/11/01-4378518-reebok-suggere-de-changer-les-reglements-de-la-lnh.php

  284. Miltie01 says:

    It is, but at least this sponsor is trying to be constructive.

  285. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Don Cherry is an idiot and you support him. QED. If Pacioretty had his head driven into the ice by a precious Bruin, he’d blame the icemaker and you’d nod like the bobble head you are.    

  286. Miltie01 says:

    This has nothing to do with labour practices…….it was about hockey, and player safety.

  287. Habnofear says:

    Do you think a Younger Laroque would have made a difference? Let’s say his oilers day’s…..

  288. fbkj says:

    okay read what you wrote and how does that detract from my point, actually how does it not re-inforce my point?

  289. D Alcorn says:

    Well said -

    ALWAYS Habs – D Mex

  290. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Three retorts to Cherry’s red herrings:

    1) The amount of padding on a stanchion won’t make a lick of difference. When you have a body (or in this case, head) moving at high speeds into an immovable object, there will be injuries. It’s physics.

    2) If he had bothered to talk to his fellow on air personalities, he’d have learned from Pierre Lebrun that Montreal had already decided to change the glass in the off-season. Not that the glass has anything to do with anything. So far nobody has been able to show me that there are more injuries caused by the boards/glass in Montreal than any other rink.

    3) None of his examples of people being run into the various stanchions were headfirst. This is why Pacioretty’s (or whatever his name is) injury was so severe. That’s why his video montage is largely immaterial. He’s just showing hits that happened in the same part of the ice, not the same hit. Had Pacioretty seperated a shoulder, nobody would be talking about this…it’s that he came millimetres from BEING KILLED that we are. I would have thought this was obvious.

    And a final comment. When you have to put up a glass partition between the benches because you’re worried that grown men playing a game will become so enraged by their close proximity that they might start beating the tar out of each other…it’s safe to say you have a problem with the culture of the game.

     

  291. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    How about putting glass right accross the bench, like at the penalty box, and adding two more doors in the middle for quick changes? Players would have to adjust, but no more stanchion.

  292. DavidKB says:

    Besides winning the division, I’d like to see the Leafs make the playoffs and Montreal somehow get to play a round against them. Too lazy to do the math.

  293. fbkj says:

    splitting hairs here

    they care about their image, they notice the nhl’s image is taking a hit etc etc

    infinity +1

  294. ds says:

    Fighting in hockey isn’t the problem, it is the cheap hits and dirty stick play that is.  If anything the NHL should allow fighting without the instigator how it used to be so that if someone took liberty on your star, your tough guy comes out and pounds him out so that next time nobody tries to hurt your skilled guys.  Now the cheap shot artists are protected by the rules causing more and more injuries.

  295. punkster says:

    Might solve out too many men penalties ;)

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  296. V says:

    Maybe you’re right, but I am not so sure there is much point in bringing in a couple of tough guys unless they are also very, very, very solid hockey players. I just don’t think thuggery is the way to go. Not for the Canadiens.

    I think we are a team that has to ignore that sort of stuff during the regular season as best as we can… and won’t always be comfortable doing so. But the advantage of that is we can put our energy into building a team that perfects a style/identity over the regualar season that can help us win in the playoffs. Besides, our lack of toughness is really only an issue when we play the thug teams (and keep in mind it’s not that bign an issue when we play the Bruins because we beat them regularly). Against many other teams, we stack up just fine.

    When it comes to thuggery (and I know you are not arguing we become a thug team), I think you need three things to make it a successful strategy: First, 3-5 thugs (and some of those can also double as very, very good hockey players); one or two won’t do it. Two, a nuclear deterrent; a premier thug that can ultimately settle any and all disputes (Philadelphia and Boston are two effective thug teams that come to mind and this role is played by Proger and Chara). Third, you need lots of skill somewhere else in the line-up to actually play superior hockey. I don’t think this describes the Bruins… Philadelphia is a the most effective thug team for me. Pittsburg would be close. Most other teams are just flirting unsuccessfully with the idea.

    I think we are too far away from this type of team – and in any event, except for Anaheim, thug teams have not won many Stanley Cups. I think most Stanley Cup teams build effectively around an approach and identity that is linked to their greatest strength. On Philadelphia and Boston I think that is Pronger and Chara. On Montreal, our greatest strength is Price, so we need to focus on bringing in more players that can help us become the hardest team to score on in the league, while still maintaining the skill to score enough to win.

  297. fbkj says:

    okay this is where your in the wrong, there is even an SI article about it that was frontpage on cnn.com today

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1103/nhl-season-of-mayhem-2010-11/content.1.html

    its a slide show that only begins with chara and patches

    the nhl has never had an image problem like they do right now, as of this moment

  298. ds says:

    Yeah I guess but he’s a relative newcomer, there is a certain respect you show the veterans in every field, a cheap shove he gave definitely pissed off the veteran star to get revenge and take his number.

  299. fbkj says:

    and this is the most astute reply to the only time ive decided to engage you seriously

    well done

  300. fbkj says:

    i remember seeing that live on tv… twas grizzly

     

  301. -Kevin says:

    You serious?

  302. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Wow, that’s repellant. Even for Dale Hunter. Did some poking around the net on Hunter and found this interesting tidbit from his wiki:

    “Late in the deciding Game 6 of the 1993 Patrick Division Semifinals between the Capitals and New York Islanders, Turgeon stole the puck from Hunter and scored, putting the game out of reach. Hunter, who was trailing Turgeon on the play, checked Turgeon well after the goal as he started to celebrate. Turgeon sustained a separated shoulder from the hit, causing him to miss all but Game 7 against the Pittsburgh Penguins in the second round, as well as most of the series against the Montreal Canadiens in the conference finals. New NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman, who had earlier promised to crack down on violence, suspended Hunter for the first 21 games of the 1993–94 season—at the time, the longest suspension in league history for an on-ice incident (in terms of games missed)

     

    Bettman probably should have stuck with his original plans.

  303. fbkj says:

    i hear ya, you just made me question reality for a few moments there :P

  304. ds says:

    I’d rather the team has a legitamate checking line of 3 big strong forwards who are solid defensively and check hard.  Moen has not been that guy.  Sort of how Detroit had Draper-Maltby-McCarty, who were great in their own end but got rough as necessary.  NJ had plenty of those type of players, even Colorado had the Claude Lemieux line.

  305. ds says:

    “3) None of his examples of people being run into the various stanchions were headfirst. This is why Pacioretty’s (or whatever his name is) injury was so severe. That’s why his video montage is largely immaterial. He’s just showing hits that happened in the same part of the ice, not the same hit. Had Pacioretty seperated a shoulder, nobody would be talking about this…it’s that he came millimetres from BEING KILLED that we are. I would have thought this was obvious.”

     

    Here’s a much more blatant example. Hunter doesn’t even try to check him into the boards, he is holding his head into the turnbuckle.

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWONUizUMjo

  306. fbkj says:

    last year was his rookie season no?

  307. ds says:

    Just like Matt Cooke got away with career-icide on Savard because blindside hits weren’t banned, the NHL is taking action. Just like Sean Avery waving his stick at Brodeur in that playoff and got away with it, the NHL made a rule.

     

    Foam on the turnbuckle & a new NHL rule forbidding hitting players into it is necessary and should be sufficient to punish players in the future, it’s up to the Management of the Canadiens to stand up and demand it.

     

    Also agree with the post 100% that the team should repair it’s building, put up the foam, fix the boards. 

     

    As for the lack of respect between the players it is a disgusting reality of the NHL.  20 years ago that wouldn’t have happened but now it is common place, the NHLPA needs to deal with this.

  308. ds says:

    With fitness & nutrition becoming so important in hockey player’s lifestyle the game has changed considerably in the past 20 years.  Players are bigger, stronger and faster.  The money is much larger, they have to do what they have to do to stay in the league or else someone will take their spot.  That’s why we see more devastating hits, the respect between players is gone. 

     

    I don’t think the turnbuckle being padded or not is bettman’s fault or the leagues fault, Philadelphia obviously padded theirs.  If the players felt it is dangerous exposed they should make an issue, isn’t that what the NHLPA is for.

  309. ds says:

    I don’t support everything Cherry says but on this issue he pointed out 2 legitamate facts.  If you’re too dumb to understand that then there’s no point talking to you.

     

    1.  Some teams have padded turnbuckles to prevent injuries like this occurring.  Montreal should implement the same. 

    2.  Montreal has stiff boards that is also a fact, they should fix it and the glass to reduce the amount of injuries from hits.

     

    Together these two will prevent _future_ injuries.  People should learn from their mistakes.  Pac is hurt there is nothing that can be done about it, but there are steps that can be done to prevent such an injury from happening again and to keep the players safer.

  310. MikeMcLaren says:

    Ian,

    Just for future linking (and I encourage everyone to go take a look at this) I found this clip hosted on ESPN for you, so non-french speakers aren’t somehow intimidated by the initial text in your link:

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5163151

    /\\ike
    GO HABS GO!

  311. SeriousFan09 says:

    Wouldn’t quite compare him to Giroux there Ed. He absolutely set the Q on fire from the start and had that obscene 2,7PPG in the 2008 QMJHL playoffs. PPG in your draft year isn’t that big, Bournival has that and he was in the same round and almost made Team Canada.

    Seen anyone in the Q for later rounds in the draft this year? Only guy I think really in the Habs wheelhouse in the first round is Tomas Jurco.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  312. Jonson says:

    totally agree……its about winning hockey games. and to be honest they could care less about us why do we care about them so much? lets care about kids dying of starvation, or rebels killing innocent comunities. there is so much going on in this world and hockey is what we are most passionate about. i really dont get it.

  313. fbkj says:

    im way comfy not letting it go

  314. punkster says:

    No thanks. I want change.

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  315. Number31 says:

    No it shouldn’t be forgotten. The NHL wants to sweep it under the rug, AGAIN, and that’s wrong. They’ve gone and set up a dangerous precedent and would rather run and hide from the real issue which is the players feeling like they can do anything without consequences or they have suspensions on a dart board that they randomly hit. They already missed the bus to show us this is unacceptable when they allowed Trevor Gillies to come back after what he did to Eric Tangradi (which was assault, and he should have been arrested for that). Bottom line is Chara’s play was illegal contact and reckless and deserved something, ANYTHING. It shouldn’t have been nothing.

    If this incident happened in the Q, Chara would be suspended for the year and playoffs for what he did. But the NHL is pretty much run by the owner of the Bruins and any rule changes has to pass through the owner of the Flyers. Isn’t that wonderful?

    The key to change is fan pressure, especially if you’re American. Contact your member of Congress. Maybe the next time Bettman lies to their faces they’ll have something to ask him.

    By the way, people mocking police involvement: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/story/2011/03/11/edmonton-hoekstra-hockey-sentence.html?ref=rss

  316. adam76 says:

    TAHNK YOU – I agree.

  317. habs365 says:

    This Chara incident is becoming sickening now…we know the outcome from bettman and his Buddys you can write your comments on this site for the next ten years nothing is gonna change ….max and his doctors has to deal with his injuries….support the team and get over it….it’s over and done with…….

     

     

     

  318. Danno says:

     

    We will never forget this.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  319. HabFanSince72 says:

    .support the team and get over it….it’s over and done with.

    No it isn’t. More players will be injured.

  320. HabFarmer says:

    I propose an alternate course of action.  Not so much getting over it as moving forward, and recognizing that what happened to Max is a symptom of a much larger problem in the NHL.  The same problem which has claimed Marc Savard, Sid, David Booth and so on and so forth.  That is the culture of violence and disrespect that is at the core of these events.  The NHL is not addressing this and it’s up to others to speak out on it.  As a parent of hockey playing children, it is getting hard to explain to children what is acceptable and what is not in a hockey game.  The NHL has to take into account it’s supporters in the larger equation.

    So yes, maybe move past the Max incident but keep taking into account the larger issues at stake in the debate.  Max will hopefully heal and return to the game and we can support him in that.  I’m thinking that the game has to change in the interim, so that the sorts of things that happened to him, and to many others are removed from the game.

     

    A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?

  321. andrewberkshire says:

    No, you’re not right. People are upset about it all across Canada and the USA. There’s a large number of Boston fans who even think it’s BS. If this was about one hit we wouldn’t be talking about Cooke and Savard. We wouldn’t be bringing up Richards and Booth.

  322. adam76 says:

    No – the majority are just habs fans upset over the hit.  You know I`m right on that.

     

    Does anyone know if the Bell Chentre has increased the padding?

  323. punkster says:

    Completely missing the point there Adam. The public focus is on the entire NHL and as I said the Chara incident is only the catalyst. The Facebook pages and peaceful protests are not initiated because if one single event. People are protesting a variety of faults including the hit, the general level of violence, the inconsistent suspensions handed down, the poor quality officiating, the disinterest in limiting concussions, the sun belt failures, the Phoenix disasters, the seeming ineptitude of the owners and commisioner’s office, the lack of sensitivity ecpressed by the NHLPA and on and on. The league is in trouble and the Chara incident is only a starting point.

    Yes, add the padding. Great. It would solve one of the multitude of problems the league faces but in fact would not have saved Max from a concussion. Blaming the rink design alone is a cop out.

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  324. adam76 says:

    I’m aware – my point is whining, facebook pages and peaceful protests are useless and making Montreal fans look foolish.   It was a hockey play (everyone outside Montreal sees it), and unless you want to outlaw hitting in the sport – your protesting for nothing.

     

     

     

    So much fun hockey coming up – seems silly to be dwelling on the past. 

     

     

     

    Also – its an easy fix.  Toronto quadrupled the padding on the “turnbuckle” before last nighes game against the Sabers.  Have they made the changes at the bell centre?  The rink design is the major reason Max got as hurt as he did.  

  325. punkster says:

    Upset over the hit, upset over the lack of consistency in punishment and officiating in general, upset over the Phoenix debacle, upset over the continued failing to make most of the US markets profitable, upset over the unchecked violence and injury across the game, upset over the ineptitude of the commisioner and his executive. There isn’t a hell of a lot to be happy about with this league and that’s a shame, a travesty really, because the game itself is so enjoyable to play and to watch.

    If you believe that it’s just Habs fans on this you haven’t been reading, listening and watching.

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  326. JF says:

    The more rationalizations of the Chara hit I read, the angrier I get.  Just glanced at Dupont’s piece in the Boston Globe, and it’s as bad as Don Cherry’s rant.  In Dupont’s version, Pacioretty, not Chara, is the dirty player, and Geoff Molson and the Montreal fans and media are idiots.  Have none of these clowns looked at the video carefully?  You can clearly see Chara using his arm to drive Pacioretty’s head into the stanchion.  How can this be just a “hockey play”?  How can it be the fault of the seamless glass or the stanchion, let alone the fault of Pacioretty himself?  It was clearly an attempt to injure.  All the talk about hockey being a rough sport or about the configuration of the rink won’t change this.  The idiots don’t see it because they don’t want to. 

  327. db says:

    And since everyone is so busy defending Chara nobody looks at the fact that there was a history, 15 seconds left in the period and a 3-0 game.  Chara is a punk who couldnt even say “Sorry”.  Those that defend him simply don’t deserve my time.  I hope the Bruins get the “bug floor” in whatever hotel they stay at.

  328. Danno says:

     

     

    Here’s their logic.

    I drive recklessly and intentionally cut another motorist off with my car. That other car swerves off the road and crashes into a telephone pole killing the driver.

    Who’s at fault?

    That’s right. The telephone pole.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  329. V says:

    I agree (as you can see way below in a previous post). The thing I really don’t like about the Dupont article is his placing the responsibility for changing things on the players – blaming the players for a lot of this. I think player behavior needs to change but under the circumstances, the league needs to establish clear rules and regulations that drive the behavior change they want/need from the players.

    Expecting the players to lead on this is just abdicating the responsibility that management (owners/gm’s/coaches) has to properly guide the behaviors they expect from their employees (players). Just like you would in any other properly run industry.  

    This is an issue because of a lack of effective leadership in the league.

  330. gmd says:

    Rest in Peace Rick Martin.  One of my favourite players from when I was young.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWmCWNGb7Zg

     

  331. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Wear Pacioretty’s number on their sleeves. Beat the Bruins in the playoffs and smile while shaking hands. It’ll absolutely kill them and if we’re lucky Cherry will pop a fuse.

    Salut Rick Martin, you were one of the best!   

  332. ProHabs says:

    I say knock them out of the playoffs then skate off the ice, don’t even bother shaking their hands. Imagine the look on the Bruins face as they line up and the Habs just skate off as if to say, FU, you guys don’t deserve a hand shake.

  333. Miltie01 says:

    Give me a break… That’s all you have to say…..call me self righteous…and of all things PC ?

    People are making veiled and not so veiled threats towards someone who they disagree with.

    Do you honestly think this will fix the problem ?

  334. Miltie01 says:

    I see, we are bad, but someone is worse, that makes us OK……

  335. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    gimme a break. pathetically self-righteous and annoyingly PC post. and i dont even think i need to go into what exactly i mean. i think everyone below kinda covered that for me already…

  336. Ian Cobb says:

    You tend to get a little excited Miltie.

  337. Ian Cobb says:

    You talk a big stick, little boy.

  338. filincal says:

    WHAT “FOLKS”?

     

     

     

    I BLEED BLEU BLANC ET ROUGE!!!

  339. Miltie01 says:

    Read things, watch games…..or better yet talk to people…….they are out there, and they are many.

  340. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    The Jews in Europe? Hitler’s house?

    Are you for real?  Get a clue moron.

  341. Miltie01 says:

    For sure, people are threatening an old man with bodily harm because they do not like his opinion. And you have the nerve to call me a moron. And everyone wonders why folks think Habs fans are assholes.

  342. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    STFU you braindead pos.

  343. HabFanSince72 says:

    It was hyperbole.

     

  344. Miltie01 says:

    Am I next on the hitlist ?

  345. Miltie01 says:

    It is also classless and very unbecoming of a fanbase that is supposed to be the most knowledgable in the league isn’t it ?

  346. saskhabfan says:

    People from the gta hate hab fans,is that really surprising? Everybody else in the country hates leaf fans because they are arrogant assholes. They are out there and they are many,many,many more.

  347. Miltie01 says:

    I do when I see some of the crap written on here……Cherry gets death threats for stating his opinion ?

    Really, is this what makes Canada great ?

  348. Miltie01 says:

    And you are talking a boat load of crap…….Don Cherry did not say what I wanted him to say so he should be beaten to death by an angry mob !!! How old are you again Ian ?

  349. habs365 says:

    And what can you do about it….nothing like everyone else

  350. Bigdawg says:

    Awesome idea Moores does support the ignorant and money talks.

    Just sent mine:

    Dear Moores Clothing,

    I have been a proud and successful Moore’s suit wearer for almost 18 years. I like the quality/price point you offer me. However, I regret to inform you that I will no longer purchase anything from your establishments as long as you support Don Cherry on Hockey Night in Canada. Your sponsorship of Coach’s Corner, a show many perceive as offensive and often racist, can no longer be tolerated.
     
    This weekeend, Mr. Cherry went overboard and made insulting and insensitive remarks concerning the hit on Montreal Canadiens forward Max Pacioretty. This is something that has impacted myself and more importantly many of my customers on a very deep cerebral level and so I can no longer been seen wearing any of your clothing. As a result I will be directing my clothing dollars elsewhere. 
     

    May God bless you,

     

  351. Off-side says:

     

     

    HA! HA! LOVE IT!!!!!

     

    I’ll send mine right now!!

  352. habstrinifan says:

    Please copy the appropriate sections from Danno’s post which I have pasted below and send off a letter to Moore’s clothing. If we all send a letter ther eis a very good chance that Moore will repsond with a statement… I believe.

     

     

    Danno’s post follows!!!!

    Okay, it probably won’t make any difference but here goes anyways…

     

    Here is Moores Clothing’s email address…

    customer@mooresclothing.com

    Letter I sent…

    ————————————

    Dear Sir or Madam,

    I regret to inform you that as a result of the insulting comments made by Don Cherry on Coach’s Corner that I will no longer patronize your establishment or buy any of your products. Your company is a sponsor of Coach’s Corner which airs on Hockey Night in Canada broadcast by the CBC.

    I have taken this decision in light of the fact that Mr. Cherry made several insulting, inaccurate, insensitive and offensive remarks regarding the near-fatal assault of Boston Bruins Captain Zdeno Chara on Montreal Canadiens forward Max Pacioretty.

    The message Mr. Cherry gave was contrary to the values we hold and only aggravates a very bad situation.

    Regards

  353. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    HAHA! lol i didnt know exactly what you meant there, but im kinda high, so i focused realll hard… turns out you nailed it – in the correct chronological order, too.

  354. Bill says:

    He said, “Unfortunately”. You left that out. Then asked him what he meant by what you said he said when it wasn’t what he said, just something you made up.

    WTF?

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  355. Bill says:

    Ha, well I was kinda high too, so there you go.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  356. habs365 says:

    put the benches where they use to be….that’s the cure

  357. mrhabby says:

    the seamless glass will be replaced in montreal this summer. there are 6-10 teams that are making that adjustment. Pierre Lebrun confirmed it on the hotstove last night.

  358. EricInStL says:

    It seems that the seamless glass is scheduled for replacement but at the end of the year or something to that effect.

    “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”–Winston Churchill

  359. PrimeTime says:

    Anyone who says ” I won’t watch or listen to what Don has to say” on the subject is just being as stubborn and ignorant as he is. He didn’t say whether or not he thought Chara intented to put Max into the stanchion. He just loudly said that it’s not the first time to happen and that it either had to be a big suspension or nothing. Of course if Max was a Leaf and Chara wasn’t a Bruin, I think his tune would change. I never like “how” he says things but I will admit to agreed with him on a rare occasion. What comes to mind is the armor-like equipment players today wear. The elbow pads need to go back to sponge. I also agree with him that Geoff Molson need to help protect the players with removing the seamless glass. Its not the first time Cherry or others have said it. I too had the idea of a 45 degree for the stanchion but also after the Max injury. Owners, Management, and Players all have responsibility to best interests of the game. They may have different views on how to get there but in the end they need to. Players safety is at the top of the list and I think they will get there starting with the resignation of Campbell in the off season and bringing in a new and impartial point of view. As for Bettman, his childish reaction to a big corporate sponsor concern is going to bite him the ass…..he made his job a bit more difficult with it.

  360. Habfan4lfe says:

    Cherry reminds me of Mr Burns, old as heck and ignorant to most everything. Cherry hasn’t laced up a pair of skates in 60 years. The guy is senile, dresses like a freak. Cherry loves Chara so it’s only obvious he will stupidly say it wasn’t intentional. Only lame brain would say it wasn’t intentional. Earl Mcrae, i read his article today too, another dummy who’s probably never even laced up a skate defending Chara. Well i guess when someone gets killed maybe just maybe these morons will open their eyes before they open their mouthes. I hope someone gets Chara good. A good crack in the ankle with the heel of their stick. Had I been on the ice, Chara would have needed assistance off the ice with his broken ankle.

  361. Bob_Sacamano says:

    That old moron doesn´t deserve a fraction of the attention he gets here. FFS, he doesn´t even have the decency to say the name “Max Pacioretty”. Instead of it, he again comes up with his ridiculous “What´s his name again?” crap. Just a sad, pathetic old man. Can we talk about something else now?

  362. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    What kills me about the coaches corner clip is when they slow down the play and you clearly see Lurch using his arm in a pushing motion to shove Patches into the turnbuckle, it’s clear as day.  But for some reason some folks refuse to see it.  Not really surprising, Habs haters like Cherry and the rest are blind to reality and see what they want to see.

  363. andrewberkshire says:

    Bigger ice is never going to happen in the NHL. It would cost billions to reform all the rinks and it would negatively impact the game. Not to mention it would make open ice hits more dangerous so you’re not even helping by doing it.

  364. EricInStL says:

    Ok Geoff, thanks for the letter it’s great to see someone for the organisation take a stand. But talk is cheap,  now let’s see some action from the owners.

    First thing is first, a bigger ice surface, will cost $$ lots of it, but if you want safety. Do it.

    Now the NHL and Football will never go back to smaller players. So bigger, faster, stronger is better and with certain kind of supplements meaner. So let’s redesign the equipment + glass. As speed + weight = potential devastating hits.

    It is time for the players to go with a visor, like a luger uses. The reason is simple most of the dammage is when a players face hits the ice when a big hit occurs and the player blacks out unable to protect his face. Also it would make it easier to go in front of the net and not get a 100mph puck in the head.

    So owners and players must do their part in order to save their sport and save a life.

    That stancion is dangerous and we all know players know where it is and that’s it’s a great way of smaking someone. I am glad cherry showed them as it was a problem way before Pacs. BUt since everyone got up…..

    So the next GMs meeting will be a window into the mind set of the NHL. Will be interesting.

    “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject”–Winston Churchill

  365. Ton says:

    amazing the mixed reaction no matter where your from; boston, montreal, vancouver, toronto, etc.  this guy from boston makes alot of sence. 

     

    http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/hockey/bruins/view.bg?articleid=1322921&format=&page=2&listingType=bru#articleFull

  366. Number31 says:

    Don Cherry and all the rest who DON’T GET IT weren’t screaming about the glass in Toronto when Kostopoulos hit Van Ryn in a “hockey play gone wrong”. That stuff didn’t move an inch in the hit. Not even a wobble. Of course, it’s all the glass’ fault. It’s the turnbuckles. They’re just jumping out and attacking players. Giving them headaches. Holy mackinaw.

  367. PrimeTime says:

    This should not be swept under the rug. There needs to be change in the league to protect the integrity of the game.

  368. punkster says:

    Adam, most here have come to the understanding that this is an issue beyond a single incident, penalty, suspension, concussion, spinal injury, etc. This is indicative of much larger problems the league and the game face. The Chara incident is a catalyst for changes even you would like to see, not just in how the league handles penalties or suspensions. Unless you believe the league and the game to be perfect or fine just as it is then you may want to join in.

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  369. saskhabfan says:

    This coming from a guy who spent the entire last summer complaining about price riding a horse?

  370. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Stop telling people what to do you pretentious little tool.  Why don’t you and the other trolls just get back to bashing Carey Price, at least we’re used to that.

  371. blu3chip says:

    ok, so we cannot talk about “jinx”, and now we can’t talk about the hit which nearly killed MaxPac.

    Man you sure are strict.

    What are you going to ban next? Habs fans chanting ole ole ole?

  372. adam76 says:

    sweet lord, its been 5 days – Don Cherry is right, we need to stop whining about this hit and move on.

     

    Protests and facebook pages are making Habs fans look like tools.  Look – Chara should have gotten 5 games, but he didn’t.  We are in a solid playoff position, only two points back of Boston.  

     

    lets concentrate on the future, on the tings we can change and control instead of dwelling on something we can’t change.  

     

     

     

    It over people,  move on.

  373. Bill says:

    You’ve got this annoying habit of telling everyone what they should or should not be doing. I think it’s hilarious when you come on here snapping your fingers and giving orders.

    Why don’t you get a dog??

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  374. NightRyder says:

    On the live stream of the CBC’s late game feed last night, they had an interactive function that lets you comment as the game goes along.

    Everything was fine, until I decide to amuse myself and take a few potshots at Dopey S. Cherry.

    Curiously, the comments never appeared, nor did my comments wondering why any anti-Cherry comments didn’t appear either.

    Maybe it was just a glitch because I’m sure our national broadcaster would encourage debate on all sides of an issue.

  375. saskhabfan says:

    I’m going to guess because its a cbc site and is probably moderated so anything negative said about toronto or its cheerleaders gets blocked.

  376. habitual says:

    I think most people here say they don’t listed to Cherry because he has become a caracature of a ranting old fool who dresses like Crusty the Clown.  It’s hard to say if he is worse on this particular issue because he is such a blithering idiot on most subjects.

  377. TommyB says:

    Talking with some friends yesrterday, and they were commenting on “if the playoffs started today…Habs would play Boston”.  Now of course that is true, if you’re looking at today.  And that might be a very interesting matchup, considering the goon stuff would be toned down, and skill would probably prevail.  We know how the Habs line up with Boston in the skill department.

    But the playoffs don’t begin today.  Thinking back to training camp, I felt and stated, that the Habs could win their division.  I felt Buffalo and Ottawa were definitely heading downward in the standings, coming into this season.  I figured Toronto could improve, but not enough to be a factor in the hunt for division leader.  I didn’t figure Boston to be as strong this year as they  have turned out to be.  I was putting too much emphasis on their big playoff choke vs. Philly last year.  So, anyway, things have pretty much come down to Boston vs. Montreal for the division winner, giving that team a top-3 position going into the playoffs.  Much more desirable than finishing 7th or 8th.  I said at the time that the Habs goal this season should be totally focused on winning the division.

    Looking at the reamainder of the season for both Montreal and Boston, with the Bruins holding a slim 2-point lead, I feel strongly that the Habs can in fact win the division.  There is no room for any multi-game slumps.  But Boston has little room either.  The next Habs/Bruins game is going to be huge, obvioulsy.  So the goal should be, now more than ever, to take the division lead away from Boston and hold it to the end.  I can’t think of a more fitting way to hit back at Boston, Chara, their supporters, and their fans, for what  happened this past week.  Make it happen, boys.

  378. Mike D says:

    Only the loser Bruins could have a goal against them without a shot on goal even taking place.

    Take THAT, Bitches!

    - Honestly yours

  379. The Cat says:

    Don Cherry really put Molson in his place though.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  380. G-Man says:

    I would say that Molson can put Cherry in his pocket any time. Squash the pit out of him.

    edit* Okay- Watched the clip- Don Cherry and the CBC should be put on notice. His opinion is that if it happens to any Habs player, then all is well in LaffBruinLand. Well, f!ck that old dinosaur. Calling out Via and Air Canada? Moore’s should be boycotted until they are no longer sponsoring Moron’s Corner.

  381. Omit says:

    Don Cherry couldn’t put a round peg in its place.  Nor a square one, for that matter.

  382. Miltie01 says:

    The players are the ones damn near killing each other out there…….they are the ones not taking responsiblity here. I don’t care what rules are in place or not in place. I do not care who gets suspended or who gets suspended. The players are the ones who have the choice to make the dangerous play or not.

    Media, corporations, suspentions, rules, rink changes, petitions and internet bloging will not change a thing.

    Giving the players the easy out on this is what keeps it happening.

  383. Bill says:

    That is some CRAZY Novice league your kid plays in! “If a big kid is pounding a little kid”?? Wow.

    Wait, was this post satirical?

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  384. LA Loyalist says:

    Hmmm, I think we as hockey parents have to be very clear to our kids what is acceptable because they will get mixed messages elsewhere.

    A hip or a shoulder is acceptable, an elbow or forearm or stick is not – and the guy has to have the puck. My son is 8, he got popped yesterday by a 10 year old at the blue line and lost the puck, he was upset about losing the play, but he was ok with the hit. He’s learning and we have to be vigilant and specific about what they learn.

    Talk to your kids about specific plays in their games, and on the NHL highlight shows. With the cameras and digital footage now, we have a fabulous teaching tool. And listen to what the coaches are telling the kids…

    I have made it clear to my guy that if a big kid is pounding a little kid or his goalie, he can get between them.

    It’s up to us, guys, if we sit around waiting for Gary B it will be a cold day in hell before things are fixed.

  385. G-Man says:

    Sorry, but what’s an 8 year old doing getting “popped?” Isn’t there no hitting until at least peewee at 12?

  386. habs-hampton says:

    It’s actually not a bad idea. It just gets lots in the rest of the crap he’s yammering on about. He’s also been right about no-touch icing as well, but no one will listen to him. (wonder why?)

  387. fbkj says:

    i know how about an angled and serrated stantion?

    made of ceramic?

  388. christophor says:

    Imagine a square pole at a 45 degree angle, covered with 12 inches of padding. 

    Now tell me how that’s like a kitchen knife.

    The guy’s dumb as bricks and maybe there are better ideas than this, but dont throw out the baby (rationality) with the bathwater (colourfully dressed, raving lunatic)

     

  389. kakey says:

    The 45 degree angled stanchion will serve as a shear. Just imagine your dull kitchen knife cutting your tomato easier at an angle than flat down.

  390. habs-hampton says:

    Chara didn’t use Max’s name either. I’m guessing neither one of them could pronounce it.

  391. HabFanSince72 says:

    Not even having the sense to use Pacioretty’s name

    He always does that to players he doesn’t like, the passive-aggressive old queen.

     

  392. Danno says:

    I cheked out your site and left a comment. Good stuff emann!

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  393. emann_222 says:

    There were so many comments made by Cherry that were not only inacurate, but also ignorant. Not even having the sense to use Pacioretty’s name … and don’t tell me he didnt know it. He was just beeing an ass.

    I agree that the best medicine for our boys will be to walk into the playoffs and deliver devastating loss after devastating loss to the Bruins, and hit them where it hurts most.

    What will Cherry have to say after his beloved Bruins are doused in the playoffs? Who Cares!

    Please join me at http://thehockeywriters.com/?p=25106 … and leave your comments about Cherry, and his inability to comment rationally on anything in the NHL – especially the Habs.

    Visit me at http://www.bleedbleublancrouge.wordpress.com and http://www.thehockeywriters.com

  394. Exit716 says:

    He hasn’t shown his face in Montreal for a few seasons now.

  395. Miltie01 says:

    So the way to deal with someone you do not like or agree with is to kill them…….that is o KKK with me I guess.

    I wonder if the Jews in Europe had the balls to go to Adolf’s house ? Hmmmm…….

  396. Ian Cobb says:

    Do you think Cherry has the balls to go to a game in Montreal?

    He may not get out of town alive.

  397. adam76 says:

    Does anyone know if the Bell Centre has made adjustments and added more padding to the “turnbuckles”?

  398. DearyLeary says:

    No, we’re planning to weaponize them against foes.

  399. Ayan_SB says:

    I think even before Pacioretty’s injury, it was planned to be redone this off-season.

  400. Everlasting1 says:

    I proposed the league install some kinda spring-loaded plexiglass partition where the glass gives a little and springs back in place. But I got no feedback response. It’s probably in the works with someone else filing the patent on my idea for mass production. Bastiches.

     

      Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  401. DearyLeary says:

    Consider it a home ice advantage.  Now we know we can paralyze players without repercussion form the league.  

  402. fbkj says:

    are you serious? benches used to be on opposite sides?

  403. observer says:

    Skirmish breaks out today between Richards of Dallas and Doughty of Kings right in front of junction where Dallas and Los Angeles benchs meet. MAYBE all this would have been a non-issue if that brilliant hockey mind Bettman not moved both benchs next to each other on the same side of the ice? Hell, they were doing it,  benchs on opposite sides for close to 100 years? Possibly since hockey was invented in the 1800s?

  404. G-Man says:

    The weird and wonderful ways of NHL rules and regs will never cease to amaze us. My photo-editing skills suck, but my avatar gets to the point.

  405. observer says:

    re: “gets to the point” — that’s what the ref then did – the puck was nowhere near the goal after parenteau was hooked and the ref – aussie football rules and bettman style skated towards the net and pointed into it!!!!!! whatta farce!

  406. Ian Cobb says:

    You hit the nail on the head Bill.

    Now if we could only hit Betman on his head.

  407. Bill H says:

     

    I missed the Atlantic article above on my first time through.  Its a very well written article.  I liked this part.

     

    We all know how this is going to end otherwise. It’s going to end with a casket. At center ice. One of these days, a player is going to be killed live and in HD during a game we all are watching from our seats or our homes. The whole world is going to see it. And then the NHL’s lawmakers, the suits who justify and defend this level of violence in the name of competition and tradition, will come before us, tears in their eyes and blood on their hands, to honor the fallen and to beg forgiveness. So much of it is so avoidable. 

    Unfortunately, such an incident will be great for ratings.  I think that’s the crux of the problem.  

  408. adam76 says:

    A death would be good for ratings?  WTF?

  409. emann_222 says:

    Thanks Danno – I also responded to you. I appreciate the support and the comment. Hope you come back often =)

    Visit me at http://www.bleedbleublancrouge.wordpress.com and http://www.thehockeywriters.com

  410. Danno says:

    Cheers Iain! I think I will!

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  411. fbkj says:

    read your comment… nice

  412. Ton says:

    now that’s clever, very clever. well done.

  413. aversglay says:

    Don Cherry is an idiot, but he’s an idiot’s idiot — which makes him an unstoppable force.

  414. Danno says:

    Don Cherry is  veritable  bullshit.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  415. Danno says:

    double

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  416. Danno says:

    I got a bit carried away there. Thanks for pointing that out. My apologies.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  417. Bigdawg says:
    • agree 100%……………Thank you
  418. Everlasting1 says:

    Bold prophetic prediction.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  419. punkster says:

    Seems like you’re not the only one here with powers beyond human understanding. Many of us see the future.

    ***STOP THE MADNESS***

  420. Chorske says:

    Moore’s and Cherry- I’d never thought to add them to the shit list, too.

  421. observer says:

    the hat he wore last night is a big seller at moores.

  422. Shiloh says:

    Scratch Moore’s off my list – their clothes suck anyway. Cherry can’t even take the time to learn Patches’ name. Cherry and MacLean – goodbye.

  423. Chorske says:

    Serious- excellent idea, I am passing it on.

  424. Ian Cobb says:

    He had lots of concussions, in those days they just said they got their Bell Rung. But the brain cells were damaged each time.

    The saying was always that “YOUR HEAD IS A LONG WAY FROM YOUR HEART”. And get back out there. But there was brain damage.!

  425. observer says:

    in his long, long minor league playing career(long because he was simply not qualified or skilled enough to make a nhl roster) don cherry never had a single concussion. not one! of course! first a person must posess a brain to ever even get a concussion.

  426. Ian Cobb says:

    Two NHL Captains speak out against NHL decision. At least someone has the BALLS. click below.

    (NHL stars speak out about head shots)

  427. Lafrich says:

    WHY did you have to post that link to Don Cherry???? I have not watched the guy in over 10 years. Those examples of other players hitting the glass are ridiculous. What were the circumstances? Were they being interfered with or was there puck involvement? Man – what a buffoon.

  428. observer says:

    I watched Parenteau’s goal. So did all the Bruins for this new record breaker.

  429. G-Man says:

    Boy, is Kevin Dupont a grade A putz. He calls the Chara assault on Paccioretty “a garden variety” hit. Is there something in the air in Boston that leads to such muddled thinking? Or is it the water? Or is it that the Bruins and their followers are trying desperately to make sure the fix is in so they have the league’s and refs backing to go after their next Cup? After all, Campbell can’t rule on anything any of their players does wrong (which begs this question: how can he possible be employed by the league as the Senior disciplinarian if his son plays in it?).

    The further time goes by on the cheap shot, the more revisionists will attempt to show that Paccioretty was the guilty culprit. What a bizarre and incredibly stupid turn of events.


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