Greatest stat of all time

P.A. Parenteau: one goal on zero shots

Eric Hornick, statistician on New York Islanders home telecasts since 1982, shares this wonderful only-in-the-NHL stat with members of the Society for International Hockey Research:

Islanders’ P.A. Parenteau was credited with an awarded goal in Friday night’s 4-3 Isles win over Boston when he was hooked at in an empty-net situation. Parenteau thus goes into the record books with one goal on zero shots taken during the game.

So forever, he will at least share the record of “Highest shooting percentage: infinity.”

Pat Hickey’s game story

Quotes from the room

About Saturday afternoon

• Don Cherry thinks we should stop whining about “what’s his name”

• Andrew Cohen has a different view in The Atlantic

What’s all the fuss about Chara-Pacioretty? asks Boston Globe’s Kevin Paul Dupont

Some heavyweights weigh in

Arpon Basu’s Playoff Check-up

483 Comments

  1. Danno says:

    Interesting discussion about Coach’s Corner going on here…

    http://dennis-kane.com/

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  2. Ian Cobb says:

    Cherry should not be alowed to address children on CBC.

    click on link below

    (Cherry blasts Habs owner over Pacioretty hit)

  3. The Cat says:

    Seriously, some of you are a wee bit irrational when it comes to Cherry, most of what he said last night was right on the money I think. I dont think Chara’s a dirty player. With the speed they were going, its impossible to time it like it was. If Chara planned all that, well hes a geometry/algebra genius.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  4. Ian Cobb says:

    Don Cherry has had so many concussions, I mean he has been unconscious to many times, fighting and hitting in the AHL, and junior, that he does not even know his brain is dysfunctional with brain cell damage.

    His wife Rose had to dress him and market him in business until she died. Now he has lots of bucks to have managers and lawyers dress him up and walk him through every business decision.

    He is a brain damaged former minor league fighter. He has no idea.!

    Please inform your kids not to listen to this very foolish clown.

  5. Keith says:

    I could care less what “The Dark Side of the Force” thinks of the hit. They will do ANYTHING to justify their point of view no matter what evidence is presented before them. THEY are what’s ailing the NHL. People like Cherry, MacLame, Colon Campbell, Buttman and all his cronies NEED TO GO NOW!!! Just like Mubarak and all the other dictators out there.

  6. ed lopaz says:

    Cat, I do not agree with you at all.

    Sure they were skating fast, but that is THE SPEED OF TODAY’s GAME.

    Chara is trained to make a hockey play AT THAT SPEED.

    Once Max released the puck, and moved towards the boards, Chara understood that Max could in fact skate by him.

    Chara had to do something.

    “rubbing out” the opponent against the boards is a hockey play when the puck is still “in the area”.

    All this is happening in an instant, a few moments in our time.

    But, and this is a big BUT, if you speak to Elite hockey players, they will tell you the game is

    “slowed down in their minds”.

    Thats what makes them Elite, and in this case NHL calibre players.

    Chara ‘slowed everything down”, sized up that it was Max who was beating him to the boards, took his angle

    to force Max into the boards,

    and then, and this is the suspendable offense,

    lifted his left arm to force Max’s head into the corner.

    to you and I it looks too fast to have been done on purpose.

    but if you interview an Elite hockey player, he will tell you that Chara was purposely forcing Max into that

    compromising position, which is a suspendable offense in any “normal” league.

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  7. Chorske says:

    Absolutely.

  8. Thomas Le Fan says:

    You got one thing right. The part where you say, “You don’t think.”    

  9. Thomas Le Fan says:

    The incredilby stupid Don Cherry shows a bunch of vicious hits, all deliberate, all hard to watch and he blames … Geoff Molson, The Bell Centre and the stanchions and once again exonerates the Bruins? Slant the stanchion??? What a maroon! It’s time to get the sick clown off of the TV. Are you listening CBC? NHL? ANYONE?

  10. ed lopaz says:

    thanks to the mods for posting the article in The Atlantic.

    I was starting to doubt myself, as one broadcaster, journalist, NHL spokesman, NHLPA spokesman, after

    anoher was telling us that Chara’s hit is simply a “HOCKEY HIT”

    Andrew Cohen is bang on in his analysis – at every level.

    And Don Cherry?

    Well, there you go.

    The same people who believe Chara’s hit was a 2 minute interference penalty

    have supported Don Cherry and his “GRAVELINE” show for all these years.

    Yesterday I heard a radio version of the GRAVELINE show.

    Cherry compared his host, someone who was against excessive violence in hockey, to a fan of F1 racing.

    Cherry, a staunch advocate of the violence, said he was a Stock Car “type of guy”.

    He went on to point out why Nascar racing is so popular in the U.S and F1 is dead there.

    Cherry said Americans love the “corner seats” at Nascar because that’s where all the “action” (read accidents happen).

    Cherry is so far gone on this issue, but the CBC ( OUR TAX DOLLARS!!!!!!) continues to give him a stage to rant.

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  11. Chorske says:

    Or…. he’s an elite athlete, former Norris winner, whose job is to know exactly where he is, and where his opponent is, at all times when he is on the ice. So now, suddenly, on THAT play, he doesn’t know it’s Pacioretty? Or doesn’t know that the glass ends there? Or that hitting a player who doesn’t have the puck is an illegal play?

    Please. Really. What utter fecking nonsense.

  12. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Cherry et al are saying in effect, “Who are you going to believe? Me? Or your own lying eyes?”

  13. Ian Cobb says:

    Cherry has had lots of concussions, in those days they just said they got their Bell Rung. But the brain cells were damaged each time.

    The saying was always that “YOUR HEAD IS A LONG WAY FROM YOUR HEART”. And get back out there. But there was brain damage.!

    He really has no idea what a buffoon he is.

  14. observer says:

    he’s right! and other americans loike dog fighting, and cock fighting where real blood spurts everywhere and now mma BUT i had once thought we had progressed from roman colisseum days when lions and gladiators tore apart the romans’ captives?

  15. SeriousFan09 says:

    Two Hart Trophy winners, Joe Thornton and Henrik Sedin, both guys who much like Chara have to know what’s going on around them on the ice at all times to be successful seem pretty confident Chara knew where he was as well. Ryan Clowe, a less than brilliant skater but power forward thinks the hit is a bit iffy as well.

    Chara isn’t some kind of brilliant skater, he has to know the ice and who’s out and where they’re going to go to do his job effectively. If he didn’t, he wouldn’t be a good defencemen.

    Just because Cherry was too dimwitted to ever keep up with the game when he was playing doesn’t mean others aren’t.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  16. observer says:

    cherry has brain cells? sorry i cannot fall for that!

  17. The Cat says:

    I think cause of his size Chara looks bad at times, I remember when I played, well one year I was bigger than most, and I cant tell you how many times someone’d skate into me and theyd fall and off Id go for a roughing penalty.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  18. The Cat says:

    The day I believe Chara did that on purpose is the day I stop watching hockey, cause this is like attempted murder. And I dont believe Chara is evil.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  19. HabFanSince72 says:

    The really sad thing about the Grande Dame of HNIC Don Cherry is that he’s viewed as a “great Canadian”. It’s enough to turn you into a separatist.

  20. Danno says:

     

     

    Cherry does everything to insult the victim, his family and his supporters. Mr. Cherry could not even be bothered to pronounce Max Pacioretty’s name properly and instead decided to make a joke out of it. You would think at the very least he would send his best wishes to him and his family. But no. And to add insult to injury Cherry refers to the life-threatenning injury Pacioretty is recovering from as “a little headache”.

    This is the guy who preaches respect to PK Subban and the kids who watch him on TV?

    And telling VIA Rail, Air Canada and Geoff Molson to keep their opinions to themselves is a little rich coming from the loud-mouthed schnook who regularly uses the public airwaves at our expense to spout off his political point of view promoting a war most Canadians do not support.

    Blame everything and and everybody but the real culprits.

    Don Cherry is a stupid jackass.

    More about Coach’s Corner including the video of last night program here…

    http://dennis-kane.com/cherry-calls-out-air-canada-via-rail-and-disagrees-with-a-billion-habs-fans/

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  21. The Cat says:

    Via and Air Canada were opportunistic, they didnt have to run to the media. And Cherry is also right about Molson, the bell centre is one of the worst for safety.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  22. ed lopaz says:

    “progress” is all relative I guess.

    In parts of the US thay are still betting on dog fighting for example. (Michael Vick, anyone?)

    I tell my kids, never argue with an American in his car because many carry weapons in their cars – read, loaded guns.

    And I could go on and on.

    The USA is very divided over these issues as well.

    There are millions of Americans who share less violent attitudes.

    But those Americans are not Don Cherry fans, and they are not buying the corner seats at Nascar and 

    explaining to their children that they’re hoping for a crash!!

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  23. Ton says:

    stop watching it , its all about ratings

  24. ed lopaz says:

    Isn’t it possible that Chara did not expect Max to be as injured as he was?

    That’s what I am hoping happened. that’s why I can still watch hockey. 

    Chara knew very well what he was doing, but he expected Max to recover quite quickly and normally from the hit.

    When a guy “lines up” a player in center ice and takes 2 or 3 strides and launches himself towards the other player’s head area,

    I don’t think the hit is intended to kill anyone.

    I don’t think hockey players are plotting murders while they sit on the bench – they try to line up big “hockey hits”

    But it will kill someone one day, and that’s the point.

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  25. Omit says:

    Grande Dame. Perfect.

  26. SeriousFan09 says:

    Quote of the day from Adam Proteau on Twitter RE the Leafs Sale:

    “Folks, Gary Bettman would bust out a ouija board & offer the Leafs to Harold Ballard’s ghost before approving a sale to Jim Balsillie.”

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  27. observer says:

    re:”tell my kids, never argue with an American in his car because many carry weapons in their cars” ——— if you ever drove on Florida’s Turnpike” south to or north from Miami there used to be a paytoll (last time I was there) just about every 20 miles and a sign on each one that said “if you are stopped by a police officer do NOT pick up your gun”. As if it is a given that everyone in florida has a gun in his car.

  28. SeriousFan09 says:

    I don’t recall a laundry list of injured players being carted off the ice in the past 3 years from home and visitor and I’ve seen over 200 Canadiens games in that time. Have there been injuries? Yes. Should we install a morgue? No.

    Don Cherry is opportunistic, he pounces on issues he can twist to his advantage and doesn’t actually take in the full weight of the argument. Dave Steckel apparently knew exactly what he was doing when he caught Crosby in the WC but Chara was completely oblivious? And I don’t recall Steckel giving out lame excuses like “I think Crosby jumped into my shoulder!”.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  29. The Cat says:

    I hear you Ed. I think the way Scott Stevens would line someone up, and he would hit the unsuspecting player to hurt them really bad, I believe Stevens tried his best to put players out of commission. I think he is evil…Only Chara’s conscience knows for sure, but I have to give him the benefit of the doubt, Im certainly not buying the so called motive that Pacioretty shoved him from behind after scoring a goal in a previous game -its all too irrational.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  30. The Cat says:

    They couldve voiced their concerns with the league behind closed doors….The rinks with seamless glass are the worst for injuries, but like I said below, a return to plexiglass is coming next year I believe.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  31. Omit says:

    What is wrong with you?

    Via and Air Canada pay large sums of advertising money to the “media” and they have every right to speak out about this.  And could you please substantiate the claim that the Bell Centre is one of the worst for safety compared to other arenas?

     

  32. fbkj says:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1103/nhl-season-of-mayhem-2010-11/content.1.html

    SI has catalogued the season thus far

    good on them for really pointing out colin campbell

  33. Clay4bc says:

    The only thing more ridiculous than Don Cherry is all the people here obsessively talking about him like he matters.

    Great road game for the Habs. The building was as dead as Atlanta, but the difference is that Pittsburgh’s arena was full. That says a lot about our dominance yesterday. And despite not many shots, Price was full value for the shut-out, making some great saves. We needed to bounce back like that after the (understandably) poor showing against the Blues.

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  34. Chorske says:

    Not sure if anyone on here is interested, but I started a Facebook group called “The NHL needs to change”. I’m not sure how effective these things are, and I certainly don’t think to divert any traffic from HIO. But if you feel strongly about the issue, feel free to sign up. It’s an open group so anyone can join and invite friends.

  35. fbkj says:

    talking behind closed doors undermines their point in bringing it up in the first place

     

  36. The Cat says:

    What good could come out of making the league look bad publically? I mean if the NHL gave that way of doing things some credence, itd open itself up forever after to the same type of ‘extortion’.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  37. The Cat says:

    The problems are due to todays speed of the players. Bigger rinks is what it takes but it wont happen cause rich people dont get rich by giving money away, they take your money.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  38. CanadienBoy says:

    Never recover from that Lafleurs shoot in the playoff

  39. observer says:

    next game against the BEST team in the east – washington who now are on a roll, injured players starting to come back, have a real goalie finally and now play habs style of hockey. they play chicago today then habs.

  40. Chorske says:

    I can think of several hundred reasons why this has nothing to do with anything.

  41. ed lopaz says:

    Ok – now we agree. ;-)

    Bigger, international ice surface would most definitely give the faster players more room.

    100% agree.

    And, the passing and skating on the international ice is phenomenal to watch.

    I believe it is a superior product.

    NHL has missed the boat on this.

    regarding the money – i assume you mean the cost of reconfiguring the arenas.

    the NHL can do it easily – and the teams would pass on the cost to ticket holders, advertisers, etc.

    the REAL PROBLEM???

    every league under the NHL, junior teams, midget AAA, AA, teams, local arenas,

    those players would need to be trained on international ice, and there’s no money to help those arenas.

    that’s where the “cost” becomes a real problem.

     

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  42. The Cat says:

    Well players use their arms, when Chara uses his though, theyre usually close to player x’s head.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  43. Omit says:

    All NHL arenas have been using plexiglas or safety glass for some time now.

    Have you got anything else?

  44. habstrinifan says:

    Some decades ago there WAS A LAW enacted in a small Florida town where you ‘had to carry a gun’… seriously.

    They changed it when police would show up to a crime scene and find ‘citizens’ blasting away at each other.

  45. novahab says:

    A message to the players of the NHL with no history of being suspended. Now if your in the playoffs or better the Cup final and the other team has a star player beating you just kill him or break his neck its ok. Don Cherry said its the rinks fault and the League said if you have no history then you get a first time feebee. Don Cherry should be fired what a stupid message he delivered last night. Chara did nothing wrong it was the rink . So for all you gangster out there shooting people in the head get Cherry as your lawyer. He’ll get you off because its the guns fault.


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