Gorges “missing” ACL for 7 years

AUDIO: Jacques Martin

Canadiens defenceman Josh Gorges took a philosophical approach today to his right knee injury, which in the days ahead will require reconstructive surgery on the anterior cruciate ligament he said he tore in his final year of junior hockey in 2003-04 in Kelowna.

Gorges added that annual checkups showed he could continue to play, but that one day the joint would need repair. That day has arrived.

Gorges hoped to know by day’s end, or soon thereafter, where and when he’d have his surgery, having finally damaged his knee to the point of needing an operation, on Dec. 26 in Long Island.

Only five Canadiens took to the ice this morning downtown at the Bell Centre: goalies Carey Price and Alex Auld, defencemen Roman Harmlik and Yannick Weber and forward David Desharnais.

Hamrlik told reporters he expected to be ready to return to action tomorrow night when the Boston Bruins visit the Bell Centre.

Five video clips of Gorges’s talk appear below.

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457 Comments

  1. LA Loyalist says:

    I disagree that we poor slobs paying the bills have much power.

    When Bob Gainey came here he had all the most authority, credibility, honeymoon period, whatever you want to call since Scotty Bowman went to Buffalo.

    Stuff went horribly wrong, some of it BG error and some of it Force Majeur for which BG is certainly not accountable — hopefully BG will one day hire Boone or Serious09 to write a book and explain himself. I will buy it full price hard-cover.

    In the interim, I see this train-wreck year as an opportunity to figure this out.

    Blaming the fans? It’s like a CEO of a public company blaming the shareholders when a stock tanks.

    But guess what, fans, like shareholders, don’t have to sit quietly and take it when management screws up.

     

     

  2. shiram says:

    Rather have him right now, than anyone we can call up though.

  3. forskis says:

    If he was stalwart with one ACL…imagine how he could have been with 2 functioning ACLs?

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  4. SmartDog says:

    Re. Cami – I said it ealier, Cami couldn’t score last night if he was sealed up in a house with a suitcase full of coke and a dozen crack whores.

    Re. Wiz – When the trade was made, I said “take notice he’s been traded twice in two years for a bag of pucks”.  Some people crapped on me for not hollering with enthusiasm instead. I still like the trade, but I don’t LOVE the trade. He seems to have good skills but a downside too (BTW he was minus leader on the Isles).

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  5. shiram says:

    Patience is a virtue is clearly not delirious…

    A win is a win, and considering the circumstances, I’m glad we won.

  6. forskis says:

    Amazing how fast you guys turn on them…last season many were calling Pyatt the steal of the Gomez trade and he was doing well…now you cannot wait to dump him…same with Moen…

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  7. patience is a virtue says:

    Hmmmmm?  Delirious?  Please re-read my post.  After you get past the part where I mockingly refer to the fact that we were missing Markov, Gorges and Hammer as “depleted” (to counter-balance all the excuse making for the Pens depleted predicament), you can read my list of serious criticisms of the Habs play.

    And that is exactly my point: we played so-so against the first place team in our conference and won.  Ummmm, that’s a good sign IMHO.

  8. forskis says:

    So you are telling me that a Habs team that is missing its Top-3 D-men with a fanbase expecting the Habs to get annihilated….and the team pulls out a win…and you are pooh-poohing it?  Would you rather that the Pens have waxed the Habs 8-1?  The rest of us want wins no matter what state the team is in…if they have to win ugly or work doubly hard for them, so be it…I do not want a tank job…especially just because the injuries are piling up after Game #41…who the heck demands a tank job in the middle of a season when the team is in somewhat decent shape?

    Of course, a team winning without half its starting defense means nothing…can’t give credit to the players after all since it was Crosby who was responsible for the win…last-time I checked, Malkin-Staal aren’t too shabby centremen either.

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  9. ooder says:

    holy crap.. he’s been playing like that for 7 years?!?!?!

    what a beast… goes to show how we really don’t know much about players lol

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    88 is the new 23

  10. LA Loyalist says:

    Exactly. Can we discuss the conceptual part of coaching?

    Plan A: I see count chocula trying to break players to a fixed system. 

    Plan B: The other option is a coach like Pat Burns going to 3 different teams (coach of year 3x) and ajdusting HIMSELF to the players he has.

    Personally, i think plan A is insane in the modern game. Or is it inevitable in a diluted talent pool to have a system and players as fungible parts?

    I don’t know the answer, I just don’t understand JM’s philosophy, it’s playing not to lose, not trying to win.

    ????

     

  11. twocents says:

    That’s way more than is necessary and New Jersey wants to dump salary anyway.

  12. LA Loyalist says:

    um, yeah, nice win – against Pens who played the previous night and were without CROSBY and played B goalie against us… that’s a game we had to win and we did, but let’s not get delirious here. 

  13. patience is a virtue says:

    Just to balance out all the naysaying, taken in part from what I said in another thread:

    Two points from a “depleted” defense and some pretty poor performances up front last night: disjointed
    passing, couldn’t finish on the 5-3 when there was actually some nice
    passing, top guns in the doldrums, over-reliance on Price, etc.
    This huge W against the top team in our conference was very
    encouraging.  If we can beat the best with our scorers in a funk, that
    bodes well for these crucial next few games against the Bruins, Rangers and Pens again, when our top two lines will hopefully break out and average 3 goals per game.
  14. lenny says:

    those players are kinda of like seat fillers at the oscars. as for cammy, i think the super star status he was elevated to may have gone to his head. he seems more interested in looking pretty then playing well

  15. Kooch7800 says:

    Benny is doing pretty well IMO. He is on the third line and is not that far off the numbers of our top 6 guys.

  16. volcano62 says:

    Who would agree on Langenbrunner for AK46 straight up? (Might be too late according to TSN)

  17. bwoar says:

    “Don’t like it, don’t read it…”  Well most days I do ignore this site, mostly because win or lose, there’s always someone here to say the sky is falling.  We could’ve beaten them 6-5 and you’d be here hang-wringing over the defense. Ogre, absolutely no one here is ignorant of the team’s problems.  By now they are obvious.  I mean c’mon, you even expected to get told off.

    You must live in Montreal, where complaining passes for wisdom and on the sunniest days the dog crap just stinks that much worse.

  18. lenny says:

    keep him with plecky and AK, let them work it out without juggling the lines. if nothing in 10 games, then switch it up

  19. RGM says:

    I think with Kostitsyn it is mostly psychological/mental. It’s like Benny x10 – all that skill and talent but just doesn’t have the right mindset to put it all together consistently.

    Go Habs Go!

  20. mike g says:

    Moen’s just that kind of player..

    He’s like Pyatt. They’re paid to waste time. Dump the puck, hit someone (doesn’t even have to be a big hit), cycle a little, and change lines.

    Waste 45 seconds off the clock. I call them break players, they give rest time to the top 6.

    And Cammy, well he’s playing like a 7 year old girl. Looks like he’s affraid to break a nail. Isn’t willing to take one for the team, so no results.

    Selfish…Then he wonders why he wasn’t named captain.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  21. otter649 says:

    So Gorges played seven years with a torn ACL – I wonder if he played with or without a knee brace as well for that time………..

  22. Bugs says:

    I prefer small Dezzy who “gives it to the d-man” every now again (like Crosby does every now and again too, btw) yet PICKS UP POINTS over “big body” Eller who does absolutely jack-all.

    It’s just business.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  23. mike g says:

    I haven’t seen AK tired, ever…

    I’ve yet to see him out of breath at the end of a shift because he gave it his all and tried his hardest.

    Last night I saw on 4 occasions him doing the same dumb, effortless play; Pleks and Cammy were in the corner battling for the puck, and instead of AK using his “size and strength” and hitting the one of the Pens players who’s coming out with the puck, he just simply skates by the boards, then cuts behind the net, and goes for a line change. Never waived his stick to try and poke it or get posesion of it, never hit anybody to get the puck either, nothing…

    Just floated around just to let everyone watching on tv that he was still there.

    I’m sorry, but he shoulda sat for the rest of the game. Apart from him appartently being a “physical force”, playing with Pleks and Cammy should make him play even more physical because he knows he needs to be since he’s playing with tiny linemates.

    And he’s none of that. I saw him give one hit last night, behind the play, nothing big, and then went for a line change.

    Sad, sad player to watch….

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  24. adam76 says:

    Cammy is playing hard, but not getting the results.  Now sure how to “solve” the issue.

  25. Bugs says:

    We already have Chris Higgins. Goes by the name of Pacioretty is all.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  26. lenny says:

    I’m not sure why Moen gets as much playig time as he gets. He can’t finish off his scoring chanes, doesn’t really use his toughness,and seems over matched everytime he is on the ice.

    As for Cammy, ever since JM played with the line in the beginning of the season he has not been the sam. Granted he could be  astreaky player netting 10 goals in 12 games, but I was expecting much more from him this year.

     

  27. SLONCOLD says:

    well AK is not practising because he doesn’t want to be tired…. funny how price played well last given the fact that he was soooo tired lol.

  28. REB says:

    On question #3 you forgot to include Chris Higgins….he’s a better option than the others you listed.

     

     

  29. ooder says:

    i was at thte game last night…

    and 2 players stood out.. and in a bad way.

    Wiz (although il cut him some slack) and cammy.

    man oh man.. this guy couldn’t pass,. couldnt shoot.. and was almost as ineffective as Moen.. tehre i said it!

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    88 is the new 23

  30. Rugger says:

    Some good points, I think part of the problem may be the coaching changes bringing in their own system (except NJ, which tries to play the same regardless of coach & player).  I think the traits of great coaches is to adapt their system to the types of players they have.  Bill Parcells was excellent at it, going from a run heavy, defensive Giants to a wide open approach when he went elsehere.

  31. mike g says:

    Ok, so…

    Price plays like a monster last night, like usual, and is on the ice this morning WORKING on his skills and trying to get better.

    AK plays like a bum again, like usual, looks like a total dork in the shootout, and is not on the ice trying to get better…..

    Ok, got it.

    Remind yourselves why I always bash AK and cant stand him.

    This is exactly why. He’s a player who’s been in the crapper for 2 months and hasn’t produced anything but ugly highlights for way too long, yet he’s taking it easy. And I’m not just saying it because he’s not on the ice TODAY, it’s just him being lazy and not caring again. He should be on the ice every chance he gets, trying to justify his top 6 spot and place on the wing next to our best centerman.

    And I doubt he needs one of those “maintenance days” to heal his boo-boo’s and injuries. Someone who plays lazy the way he does and without effort cannot justify and injury, unless it’s psychological.

    Wow, I still can’t believe he goofed like that last night, what an embarassment…

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  32. TommyB says:

    The answer to your question lies right here on this site, for starters.  The people you mentioned were in fact here to pass on the “institutional knowledge”, the “best practices”.  As well, “the methodology for passing this on” was also here.  Fans and media scrutiny drove those people out of here, as they will conutinue to do with anyone else from our past who finds himself back in the fold, either coaching or somewhere else in management (beware Patrick Roy, beware).  You mention Detroit, as so many others do, as a model for everything the Habs are not.  Consider the differences media-wise, and rabid fan-wise, before you begin to compare the two.

  33. avatar_58 says:

    Players are only worth something if a team wants them. If a team shows a desire, you can ask for whatever you want or else they don’t make a deal. Obviously NJ didn’t want Langenbrunner and didn’t really care what they got in return, otherwise they wouldn’t have made such a terrible trade. Salary dump at best.

  34. deuce6 says:

    I expected replies of this nature..Sorry, I am not a “rah-rah” type of fan when ever we win…It has been an ongoing reality that this team doesn’t score because of a size handicap..

    Our top 6 has been anemic..They can’t give any kind of consistent scoring..I have an issue with that, shoot me..lol

    I created this post simply because one 2-1 SO win doesn’t excite me going forward..I am worried that this team won’t make the show..How many times have we been shut out this year?

    Yoiu wanna hear something funny? Cammy is on a 24 goal season clip..Great job..He gets paid 6M to score 24 goals? Gomez is on pace for a 40 point season…Great $$ management..I could go on..

    But everything in Habland is rosey because of a 2-1 SO win …Don’t like it, don’t read it..

  35. HabFanSince72 says:

    I love corporate bullshit doublespeak.

    Now put that on a Powerpoint.

  36. HabFanSince72 says:

    If Lagenbrunner is worth a 3rd then Bieksa and Kaberle aren’t worth much more.

     

  37. deuce6 says:

    In your defense, Bugs, Pouliot was the only guy that deserved it..He played hard and used his bigger body, but he doesn’t get top line minutes…I am talking more of our top 6 forwards..They are just too small..

    ..and DD doesn’t impress me..He lead a 3 on 1 last night and he gave it right to the d-man..I thought this guy was supposed to be some kind of magician with the puck? Give me Eller’s big body any day…

  38. LA Loyalist says:

    DUMBEST QUESTION OF THE DAY (inspired by:”Gotta Wear Shades”)

    We have a LEGENDARY history of GREAT defensive and two way forwards, Gainey (of course), Carbo, Lemaire, Saku, Muller, Keane… Joe Juneau on face-offs, and THINKERs about the game, famously Gainey and Lemaire… my question is — and I hate to put this in corporate terms, but where the hell is the “institutional knowledge”, the “best practices” the methodology for passing this on… Detroit seem to be managing it… 

    We get a stud like PK and the team doesn’t seem to know what to do with him, similarly New Jersey couldn’t absorb what Kovalchuk brings… who owns this? 

    I thought this is what we were getting when Gainey came back and brought in Carbo… obviously (not to beat a dead chicken) that went kablooie…

    …but if there were ever an opportunity to look at our culture and be pro-active instead of reactive in terms of who we draft, who we trade for, who we play, who we keep — this would be it.

    To me this is the upside of Markov and Gorges being down. We’re not winning the cup this year, so let’s use our time and resources wisely.

    Let’s play the kids, sure, but let’s look at them from the prospective of what is USED to mean to play for The Montreal Canadiens. Pride, effort, skill – not millionaire coasters who have the leisure of deciding which games they feel like showing up for…

    Can we discuss without vitriol? (or not)

     

     

     

  39. bwoar says:

    Y’know what Ogre?  After a win, it’s nice to see comments that the sky is not falling, the team is not destructing, the coach is not a blithering idiot, etc. etc.

    What’s more annoying after a win than that?

    I’ll tell you what is: it’s people who start sentences with “Not trying to piss on anyone’s parade” and then their very next clause attempts said micturation.  Your whole post is about peeing all over the Habs after a win.

    Do you honestly believe that people here are happy with scoring one goal?  Or that we think it’ll be enough for the rest of the season?  Of course not.  But we’re discussing last night’s game and people have different opinions on it.  Some hated AK, come thought he played well and blame Cammalleri for the top line’s dysfuntion.

    Others praised Pouliot for a good game.  In fact him and Price handed us the victory.  So it’s nice to see a guy who’s routinely bashed DO WELL and EARN PRAISE.

    I’ve been against Desharnais in the lineup for a while, but today I’m nibbling on a bit o’ crow, 2 games isn’t a good sample but lil DD looked right at home on our best line last night.

    Sure, 2-1 in the SO isn’t convincing, but guess what?  The other team was trying to win too, and they didn’t.  Against a team missing its best player and the best half of its defense.  With 3 rookies and something like 6 players who spent 1/2 their year playing in Hamilton last year.  Last night we took 2 important points.

    So piss away if you must.  But when you’re done, piss off.

  40. deuce6 says:

    I just think this team, top 6, is just too small to get to the prime scoring areas of the ice..Sooner or later this team is gonna have to make a move to bring in some bigger bodies..Not just for this year, but for future seasons, as well..

    With 3 of our top 6 guys out on the back end, it may be that the forwards were in more of a back checking role, last night, but if this was the case, how did we give up 32 SOG???

    The culture has to change up front..Not only this season, but going forward..We need to get bigger.. 

  41. avatar_58 says:

    I’d argue AK46 and Cammy have been off for more than 4 days

  42. avatar_58 says:

    Wait why didn’t he get it fixed during one of the off-seasons? I like that he is a warrior but cmon, that’s a little risky especially if he didn’t come clean to the GMs

  43. Bugs says:

    Note 1: enjoy 4 days off to recollect abilities.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  44. Bugs says:

    Took considerably less time than Eller to collect his first pt too…

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  45. Bugs says:

    You wanted him to be captain because you KNEW he was playing injured for 7 years?

    Why didn’t you tell anybody?

    Mesmells 20/20 hindsight over here…

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  46. Bugs says:

    Well…to be fair, I was praising Poolio.

    Rather emphatically, actually.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  47. avatar_58 says:

    That’s funny given if teams play montreal minus Plekanec it would be “so what it’s one forward, suck it up” but Crosby is “their top line”? No sorry, suck it up Pens. One player does not a team make.

  48. Omit says:

    Pleks is the #1 Center, so it follows that …….

  49. Hobie Hansen says:

    I agree 100%. I think we have to take a wait and see approach until the deadline draws closer though.

    Half of our defensemen are currently without contracts for next season and Markov and Gorges are gone for the year.

    No sense in brining in a forward for a high price if our defense is going to be shakey and cost us a playoff birth.

    Unless Gauthier can go out and trade for a power forward and defenseman we should probably just ride the season out and see what happens…no sense in only getting one of the two.

     

  50. deuce6 says:

    Look down..

  51. light_n_tasty says:

    Who was praising the forwards?

  52. deuce6 says:

    One 2-1 SO win and we praise our forwards??

    Guys, we still need to find scoring from our top 6..They can’t finish..If it weren’t for a fresh Price, we would have lost..Seriously..

    We beat a team without it’s top line C and with their back up and all is forgotten? I am big a Habber as the next guy, but truth be told, scoring 1 goal just doesn’t cut it over the long haul..How many games do you win scoring 1 freaking goal?

    Not trying to piss on anyone’s parade, but this team needs a major jolt in the scoring dept.

    ..and Langenbruuner would not help..His best days are behind him..Let DAL have him..

    We need to bring in a sniper with size..Someone in the Iggy mold to help this anemic offense, IMO..

  53. CHasman says:

    Get rid of AK46 and replace him on Plek’s line with Boyd? Are you kidding?  Boyd has had two chances on the team now and unless there are a rash of injuries he’s a goner.

  54. Gotta Wear Shades says:

    Perhaps… but with Devil alumni Gomez and Gionta already there you would think he’d consider it. Oh well… it’s all speculation… but he would have been a good fit.

  55. Malreg says:

    Keep in mind that Langenbrunner had a full NTC, and he waived it to go to his old team Dallas, and play for his good buddy Joe Nieuwendyk. 

    Maybe PG did go after him, but he wouldn’t come here?  I guess no one knows really…

  56. LA Loyalist says:

    Pain threshold?!!! You want pain threshold? How about us FANS – - we’re the ones with the PAIN THRESHOLD!!

    Serious, all blessing to Josh for a perfect recovery. If he had to miss a year this is the one to miss.  Get it rebuilt, getting he and Markov back in a year will be like adding 100 horsepower to a car.

    Let’s look hard at what we have coming and build accordingly, patiently, wisely – and oh yeah, only 2 years till Gomess is gone!!! …700ish  sleeps!!!

  57. Bugs says:

    I realize I can come off as a prig sometimes, Jordy, and I apologize for that. But I’m a stickler for rules of rhetoric. And no argument holds water when used against strawmen, you must agree.

    We can be as virulent and incendiary as we like, (I plead guilty myself) but we have to be fair too.

    P.S.: ALL my posts are about hockey; believe it or not.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  58. Gotta Wear Shades says:

    Really? I thought Cammi had a great game – but I also think that Benny was the best player on the Habs last night (Malkin the Glass on the Pens). 

    Kostitsyn had a bad SO attempt, yes – but he played a solid two way game, hitting, active with the passing lanes, etc. One thing I did notice was the Habs feeble attempts at working the puck down low… that’s why I think passing on a chance to get a workhorse like Langenbrunner in was a miss by PG.

  59. TripleX says:

    Josh admits to playing with a torn ACL for the last SEVEN YEARS!

    What a warrior he must have an unbelievable pain thresh hold.  That is why I wanted him to be captain.

    As far as AK goes.  What game were you watching?  He was the best player on the line.  Cammi is the softest player on the puck on the team and is a slacker.

     

     

    “I don’t like to keep kids like that out of the lineup. They need to play; that’s how they’re going to get better.” Jacques Martin

  60. SLONCOLD says:

    he seems to have a good work ethic. the guy doesn’t take a shift off either. he earned a shot and lets hope he can continue to help out of the team.

  61. Jordio-oh says:

    haha oooo touche.

  62. bwoar says:

    It’s only been 2 games, but I will stand up and admit I was wrong about Desharnais.  He doesn’t look at all out of place.  Granted, had Crosby played, the matchups would’ve been different.  But he hasn’t been a liability, in fact the opposite.  I expected less, in fact the guy played with a lot of confidence and jump.  Here’s to hoping he can keep up that spark on the 3rd line.

    And for good measure, Price stonewalls Malkin all night.  Who needs defensemen?

  63. Bugs says:

    Whoa, whoa, whoa, Berkie; easy. Defend the guy; that’s fine but don’t invent.

    Price last year was the ANTITHESIS of “consistent” with his 13-20-5 record. Ergo: he HASN’T “been one of the most consistent goaltenders in the NHL for 2 years now.” Don’t invent.

    Go for “THIS year, he’s been one of the most consistent goaltenders in the NHL” and duke it out with those who throw Thomas or whoever else against ya.

    Be fair, mate.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  64. Hali_Hab says:

    I agree 100 percent with you  on the elller/DD topic, i wish he wold just play them both. It would be quite benificial to the team and those players in the long run, For a team with a gm that talk’s about the “Middle and long term” almost all the time, they have a strange coaching approach when it comes to young players and their ice time.   

     

    “After 13 years, I couldn’t accept to be number two.“
    Guy Lafleur.

  65. Bugs says:

    As opposed to egging on folks who’ve given no cause for retaliation? THAT’S where it’s at?

    Sorry then.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  66. Hali_Hab says:

     The addition of a dustin penner would be nice …

     

    “After 13 years, I couldn’t accept to be number two.“
    Guy Lafleur.

  67. Dunboyne Mike says:

    No doubt Martin is omniscient, clued in on factors upon which we can only speculate (or not comment). But based on what I’m seeing, I would work with Cammy, help him find his groove, and I would sideline Gomez and AK — trade, demote, pressbox, anything. Streakiness is an affliction that has to be accepted and worked with when it comes to scoring, timing, decision-making. But streakiness in intensity is not acceptable. OK, if there are hidden injuries, or terrible personal traumas going on, you have to cut slack (for a while). But otherwise, streakiness in intensity is just not professional. 

    I desperately want to see us in the playoffs, and I believe we have a better chance getting there by throwing Eller and DD in at the deep end now, put them on a very steep but rewarding learning curve, build their confidence (although not sure if that’s part of JM’s modus operandi), and let them take part ownership of the journey to the second season.

    The only thing that would make me hesitate to offload Gomez or AK would be if I were convinced it would make a significant hit on other players’ morale.

    Great win last night, SO necessary, lots of good things. And so what they didn’t have their best player? We haven’t had ours since Markov was injured. Sports is a lottery.

  68. Jordio-oh says:

    My apologies. I didn’t realize a 2.32 and a .920 with 4 shutouts was merely okay. Someone better inform the GM’s that 75% of the league’s goalies are playing below the levels of “okay”.

    I’m happy that i get to ‘harp on last year’s subject’ because such a subject was created by unappreciative fans like yourselves. So yes, I’m just peachy.

  69. Bugs says:

    Have you glanced at the team stats lately?

    Plecky still rules the roost.

    Until any bottom players put up more points than him and his mates, he keeps the pole.

    And that’s it.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  70. Jordio-oh says:

    Thankfully pouliot actually did something worth talking about so now your posts today consist of 20% hockey talk and 80% sarcastic banter, instead of the usual 100%, yes?

    Keep up the condescending and satirical remarks. Living it up on anonymous message boards is where its at.

  71. patience is a virtue says:

    OK, that is provocative, but I agree with others that we should leave G&G + Max Pac alone to do their thing for a bit, and DD (or Eller) with Poo and Darche to see how that goes.  That doesn’t rule out your Boyd for AK idea, but how about this:

    Most of this community fails to understand AK.  He will never look like a hard hitting power forward, except for brief moments in time when he bursts forth and levels someone to take the puck.  He will never look like a smooth skating, suave stick handling sniper, except when all of the sudden he does (like last night on that slick break in).  Because he is both of these wrapped up in one, but his style is kinda like Muhammad Ali: Float like a Butterfly and Sting like a Bee. He looks like he is floating, but he strikes quickly, makes very good passes, and takes beautiful shots.

    Agreed, he could be stinging a bit more often these days (ditto the rest of our offense).  But he could easily get 50+ points this season, and he was leading the team early on.

    I would also agree that understanding his different playing style does not make excuses for his lack of effort some nights.  He was working hard most games early in the season.  He hasn’t been as consistent lately.  But he was the best on the Pleks line last night and actually played a dangerous game.  Yet you might not notice it until he scores or sets one up that goes to the back of the net, which happens more often than most imagine.

    See this Lions in Winter post for a good rubutal against RDS’s AK bashing.

     

  72. LA Loyalist says:

    Maybe with a conditional top-up to Edmonton if AK doesn’t get a min # of points, or we may have to add someone/pick.

    Lots of us like Penner for Habs, for obvious reasons – why would Edmonton give him up? I don’t follow them much. Is it feasible or are we dreaming?

  73. REB says:

    uhhhh, who is the “performing veteran”?   Unless you include ‘disappearing acts’ it isn’t AK46….

  74. andrewberkshire says:

    Erratic play? Have you ever watched hockey before? Price has been one of the most consistent goaltenders in the NHL for 2 years now.

  75. REB says:

    Note the “in no particular order” comment on the original post….  that means that even though they are listed 1st doesn’t necessarily mean they are the 1st line.

     

  76. Omit says:

    Ah Tony,

    My laughter for the day never feels complete without one of your asinine posts.  Thank you.

  77. observer says:

    Lucky Habs got this much out of player with a damaged ACL who Gainey blindly traded for.

  78. Jonson says:

    georges for rivet, solid for solid? Rivet was one of the worst dmen i have seen on this team. Defensively he was worse than Souray. he was good for 2 things. Talking to the media, and fighting. He was tough as nails. but he was terrible on d. I hope no one argues with me on this one.

  79. terrygain says:

    Rivet for Gorges and a first round draft choice (Pacioretty) was a steal.

     

     

  80. Everlasting1 says:

    Gomez – Koivu..that’s who.

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

     Don’t pollute the water.

  81. SLONCOLD says:

    The amazing human body can not rebuild an acl without surgery. when you play contact sports or any sport that requires pivot like actions on the knee joint your risk further damaging your knee because without an acl (even with a brace) you expose your tibia to displacement.

  82. DearyLeary says:

    You mean HI/O doesn’t stand for Habs Institute for Orthepedics?

  83. joeybarrie says:

    Very nice….

    Even if you tear your ACL it does not necessarily mean you can no longer be mobile. Depending on the tear and the severity you can go one and adapt for it. Not the best advice, but if you can do no further damage, why have the surgery till you need it. Especially for a player like Gorges who was always under valued and had been scraping for ice time until recent years.

    I didn’t listen to his explanation, but i do know a tear is not 100% surgery. The human body is an amazing thing.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  84. SLONCOLD says:

    since i blew out out my acl, mcl, lcl and meniscus and had my knee rebuilt…

  85. Everlasting1 says:

    In Montreal?? lol

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  86. Chuck says:

    *** INDEPENDENT THOUGHT ALERT!!! INDEPENDENT THOUGHT ALERT!!! ***

    Centre Hice: A case for Georges Vezina

  87. davelecave says:

    Who, may I ask, is “Newsy”?

  88. 24 Cups says:

    Don’t be surprised if Subban is our best Dman by the Ides of March.

    The three-star selection is now just another version of the ads on the ice.  I say that Bell should give out a free smartphone to each winner.  By the end of the year, Price and Pleks will be able to open up thier own kiosk.

  89. Omit says:

    From the ridiculous(Observer) to the sublime(JD).

  90. JD_ says:

    * The way the Pens play without Crosby tells me the Hart is his to lose. Not that he’s got his eye on it or anythin’, but just the same.

    * Thank Jeebus for PK. In the absence of so many starters, he’s a rookie playin’ vet minutes and lookin’ more and more structured in his play. Still goes for the occasional venture into the O-zone, but doesn’t overstay his welcome. Not bad given how absolutely and tragically ruined he is so early in his inevitably soon-to-be-over career.

    * Rough night for Newsy. Responsible for a third of the Habs’ giveaways on a night where the team’s passin’ was blade-to-blade, albeit from the stick one to the skate one. One segment in the first period, I think, said it all: Newsy put the puck in MaxPac’s skates, Max recovered it and put it in Gio’s skates at the Pens blueline. If Captain G looks down to find it, he’ll get pasted. Puck gone. Play over. Strange how the team’s passin’ efficiency simply craps out across the board on some nights. Just like last season, however, it only seems to happen at the Bell Centre. Probably a pressure thing.

    * The three-star selection at the Bell Centre has gone from bein’ a bit of a sideshow to Bozo the Clown’s bulbous red nose. A 2-1 S/O victory and it’s a Habs parade. Honk! Honk! Wouldn’t be so goofy except for the fact there’s a trophy awarded and some meaningful Habs have their names engraved on it. I suggest they either go back to the ol’ system or just drop the whole thing altogether in favour of handin’ every player from both teams one of those participation trophies that get doled out at the end of the season to all the l’il tots in amateur sports leagues. Heck, break the bank and also give all the players a bag of chips and a can of Coke®.

    * He’s a stinkin’ Loaf, and he’s Grabsy, but his skillful l’il S/O spinner last night is the way it should be done and not that rulebook-bendin’, goalie-interferin’ display recently put on by Steve “Slip Slidin’ Away” Stamkos.

  91. light_n_tasty says:

    I think it’s a two-way street.  Habs management and coaching staff, at least since Gainey (I don’t remember what the culture was like before that), are not hands-on communicators.  They will scratch payers, send them to the minors, take them off the PP or PK, or cut a player’s minutes without telling them why.  I think part of that is that Gainey, Carbo, JM, and PG are old-school professionals.  They don’t see the need for the communication.  Players like Gainey, Carbo, and Muller were the kind of players that didn’t need someone to baby them along.

    On the other hand, players like Ribiero, Grabovsky, SK74, Latendresse, etc. were all quite immature when they came into the league.  The no-nonsense style of Gainey & Co. does not mesh with players like that.  They need someone to explain why they are being scratched, benched, etc. and what they need to work on.  And that’s why we get situations like we have in the past.

    That said, I don’t see any of those miscommunications happening with our current roster.  Maybe AK46.

  92. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Something just isn’t right.

    Look, I totally agree with you guys. Latendresse, Sergei Kostitsyn, Ribeiro, Ryan O’Byrne, Grabovski all didn’t make much of a significant impact while they were with the Habs.

    Most of them were simply a pain in the ass and we ourselves, US FANS, wanted them outta here.

    Now, I understand a change of scenery can do a lot. It can motivate a player in several ways. But the number of players that are suddenly catching fire is actually pretty freaky.

    I am not saying yank Martin, fire PG or whatsoever. 

    But you have to wonder – why are so many ex-Montreal players suddenly doing so good?

    Yes, certainly – those players don’t have a big heart like Gionta or Koivu. But isn’t it’s the coach’s job to get the most out of his players? It’s working with other teams.

    Obviously you could debate that Komisarek, Higgins and Kovalev are players that seem to have forgotten how to play ever since they left Montreal. But this is a case of young players.

    I wouldn’t say this is all Martin’s fault – because none of those players actually tore it up under Guy Carbo either. But there’s something here in Montreal – that just ain’t right. I don’t know what it is, whether it’s media, pressure from the management, Montreal’s nightlife…I just don’t know.

    But something needs to improve. Cuz’ it’s gonna end up costing us.

    Now just because I said this, that doesn’t mean I want Martin fired. When I look at our team’s GA in the standings, or the stats on special teams, I feel proud as a Hab fan. Those are good things. And I wanna give kudos to the coaching management for that. But this team simply can’t score. And this is where the case of young players come in – and how they suddenly catch fire when they are traded to another team.

    I am not saying that I want those players back on this roster – hell to the no. But a change is needed, before several other moves are made that might cost us in the future.

  93. HabsFanInVictoria says:

    Maybe people have to stop booing so they can feel comfortable playing in their own rink.  Maybe talk-radio and newspeople needs to stop calling these players out.  Maybe fans need to just leave the hockey decisions up to the ones who know what they’re doing and let the players play and learn.

  94. Everlasting1 says:

    You said it – some just thrive under different coaching and different environment. Dags and SK74 are on pace for 20 goal seasons. Grabs looks to be a bonafide 20+, like Ribeiro. The world keeps on spinnin’..

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

     Don’t pollute the water.

  95. rocketsglare says:

    Great read by Kamal Penesar and how the Habs need to get bigger and stronger. Another great read is

    by Eric Engels and how the Habs have proven everyone wrong with their resilient play. I highly recomm-

    end reading both articles. Very illuminating and entertaining.

    Go Habs Go!

  96. Everlasting1 says:

    Care to post the links?

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  97. shiram says:

    James Wisniewski

  98. rocketsglare says:

    I thought he was the Wiz?

    Go Habs Go!

  99. 24 Cups says:

    JD plays by his own rules.  He’s kind of like the box of chocolates in Forrest Gump.

  100. NoTinFoilCups says:

    JD’s a she didn’t ya know.

  101. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    J.T. is a girl. JD is a guy. Pretty sure. I enjoy reading both of them, though. Of that much, I am certain.

  102. NoTinFoilCups says:

    My bad. And yes I enjoy them both as well. Must be the similar writing styles have me mixing them up!

  103. Everlasting1 says:

    You’ve touched on something that I’ve always had an inkling about. The old-school professionals, in particular Gainey/PG, JM..they seem like such stiffs and come across as militaristic in their attitudes/approach in dealing with players. JM strikes me as the type to order a player to drop to the ice and give him 20 for slipping up. Carbo never gave that impression. I don’t presume to know what JM or any other is like in the dressing room or team meetings, but he does come across as a tight-a$$ and lacking that interpersonal skill in dealing with what he perceives as difficult players. Perhaps he strokes them the wrong way. I dunno.

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  104. Habscat says:

    Tough loss to the blueline. I have been thinking about possible moves that I would love to see. I want a big Dman who hits, and blocks shots. Obviously we need a power forward. So here is what I would like to see.

    1. Sign Brendan Witt. Isles bought him out. Would be a great partner for Webber/Subban. Would also give us toughness. Dont know where he is playing this year. I would like a BETTER/younger version, but if its not available we could get Witt on the CHEAP.

    2. Trade for Penner & Peckham from the Oilers. Kills 2 birds with one stone. I dont know if we would have the assets to pull this off, but I would love it if we could.

    3. Low-end/High-end/Dream names – Jovanovski, Commodore, Arnott, Regher, Iginla, Bouwmeester, Umberger, Clarkson, Bieksa

     

     

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  105. mike g says:

    Penner, Jovo, Regher and Umberger are the only ones worth it…

    The rest either have terrible/long contracts, or just won’t be traded (Iginla).

    But, it’s so hard to make trades. CLB won’t give away Umberger, they know he’s a very useful player and good in the room. And Regher is a solid top 2 d-man on any team, who isn’t grossly overpaid. And Penner would add tons of muscle to a small team like ours, so EDM would want alot.

    Jovo might be the easiest to get….But I think he has a NTC, and not sure if MTL suits him. He seems like a laidback, desert kinda guy.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  106. Kooch7800 says:

    I have to admit that was a pretty slick goal.

  107. rocketsglare says:

    Ian, imagine if he would have lost control of the puck while spinning. He would have been derided in the media for

    his hot dog move. He got lucky. I’m not a fan of these flamboyant moves. Maybe, I’m just old fashioned.

    Go Habs Go!

  108. Ian Cobb says:

    Awesome shootout goal by Leafs star

    In my opinion, just a goal. But this is all Toronto has to talk about anyway.!

  109. Say Ash says:

    “replaced by Darche ( lol dont get it)”

    Darche parks himself in front of the net

  110. zak says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t Pearn coach the d-men and Muller the special teams? If that’s the case then it must be up to JM to dictate the offensive schemes.

  111. Jonson says:

    Most of them are garbage. Sk is a great talent but a head case that we dont need. Ribiero was decent but was never going to be great here. Latrendesse….lol the guy was absolute garbage here, if anyone thinks that he is gonna be a great hockey player they are crazy. He had good numbers last year but there is no way he will do that on a consistent bases. Its easy to know this if you had watched him here. its that simple. To say he is better than pouliot is just plain stupid. Pouliot is the most talented player on this team right now. JM has been so impatient with this its not even funny. He played him on the second line this for about 5 games before he was replaced. And the funny thing was is that he was playing better than gio and gomez. You wonder why Eller, Darche, Halpern, now DD are playing so well? its cause they get the luxury of playing with a TOP line guy in Pouliot. He has 8 goals this year, thats not bad for a guy who plays 10 mins and has been replaced by Darche ( lol dont get it) on the PP. You can see how dominate this guy can be. He is so strong on the puck, has a great shot, can pass, and has tremendous hockey sense. When Cammy was playing with Moen and Gomez, i was hoping that JM would come to his senses and put cammy with eller and Pouliot. THat would have been a heck of a line. I just hope we dont give up on this guy cause he is such a good hockey player. IT sucks that he hasnt been given a normal amount of time to develope before he was expected to score 50 goals this year, without more than a full season in the NHL. Him and Eller could be very special to watch together in a few years.

  112. christophor says:

    Was it recently suggested that Pouliot play center? 

    Bugs maybe?

    Call me crazy, but I think I like this. It never occurred to me before I read it and it got me thinking: what centerman does Pouliot remind me of?  Well, Benny’s above average in passing, skating (and falling), and hitting. But boy can he shoot that puck! He can also dangle. 

    Jeff Carter comes to mind. Not too physical but big and skilled enough to not be pushed around. And Carter can shoot. I know Benny hasn’t popped in 40, but I don’t think Carter has as big a cannon as Benny. Boy, that shot! Maybe Benny needs more of the puck. He can get that in the middle. Maybe trying to turn him into a power forward isn’t the right idea, at least not in the sense of grinding out along the boards all the time. I don’t see Carter along the boards as often as pushing up the middle and creating havoc on open ice. We don’t have anyone like that.

    I mean, we’re not talking about a Lats or Patches, who are big and of the power forward type. They haven’t the skills to go with their big bodies. Pouliot has the skills of a little man in a big man’s body. THAT IS RARE! And it’s probably hard to develop.  But it hasn’t be utilized or recognized.  It needs to be drawn out, not just turned into your everyday potential powerforward. There’s a reason Benny was drafted at 4th.

    But we’ve already got a log-jam up the middle (sounds dirty). But none so big and handsome and fast-shooting as Benny.

    Just thinking…

  113. mbplekfan says:

    That is an idea that needs some looking into. JM wont do it, but he should.

  114. christophor says:

    There must be something I’m missing because it seems this guy should have grown up playing center.

    I’ve gotta repost this tomorrow to see if anyone thinks this is nuts. 

  115. rocketsglare says:

    Good post. Something to consider probably for next year. I doubt anything can be done this season given that

    it would require the necessary time for Pouliot to readjust his game and hopefully become effective in that role.

    Go Habs Go!

  116. JSP1990 says:

    Benny was drafted as a centre I believe. He played it while he was a Wild anyway. I would love to see it happen here.

  117. light_n_tasty says:

    I’m pretty sure he’s always been a LW, even in the OHL.  Maybe you’re thinking of Cammy?

  118. light_n_tasty says:

    I’m pretty sure he’s always been a LW, even in the OHL.  Maybe you’re thinking of Cammy?

  119. JSP1990 says:

    I know Cammy was a centre in college and with the LA Kings. But i swear I thought Benny at the very least played it in Minny? Idk. Maybe i’m losin it? I am on HI/O at 3 am. lol

  120. habs001 says:

    i hope i am wrong but watching pouliot this year and last i still only see him a s a very serviceable 15-18 goals scorer…i just dont seem him as a consistent nhl scorer…maxpac looks the same to me….

  121. christophor says:

    maybe that’s because he’s not a winger.

    maybe he’s made for open ice, not for the boards.

  122. MTLForever says:

    drafted as LW but id like to see him as centre, he has the tools for it

  123. MTLForever says:

    ya benny drafted as LW but hey, i think giving him a shot down the middle could benefit us

  124. twocents says:

    Despite what people have said below Pouliot has played centre over the years. OHL, AHL and with Minny. hockeyfutures.com used to list him as C/LW and so did faceoff.com.

    I think he has the tools to succeed there and it’s where he belongs. My only concern is how he would deal with the extra defensive responsibility.

    btw, Bugs got the idea from me. ;o)

  125. adam76 says:

    Canes three points back  Boston up a point but has two games in hand.  A must win in Jan – if this team could have only played .500 in Dec………

    Hope Price doesn’t play poor after his little “word up, G” stunt.  Last time he showboated (with his tribute to  Usain Bolt) in the shootout, he lost 5 out of his last 8 games.

  126. Bugs says:

    !

    Sir! How dare you?

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  127. Bugs says:

    Yeah, I said it! And I’ll say it again:

    My boy has more creative talent than anyone else on this team as well as the size and speed, not to mention his infuriating overtendancy to pass instead of takin the shot, which happens to be a friggin Howitzer.

    1st line centre.

    Not today. Certainly not today.

    But properly moulded. Conditioned. Brainwashed. Some day. Oh yeah, baby.

    Happy New Year, signed 

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  128. Bradzerker says:

    I’m really peaved Habs mgt didn’t have this taken care of in ANY off season JG has been with the club.  They knew it eventually had to be done and now it’s happened at probably the worst time possible.  Habs mgt dropped the ball.

  129. Chuck says:

    You’re forgetting about a little factor called a high ankle sprain, which probably affected his play a lot more than any pose.

    Centre Hice: A case for Georges Vezina

  130. HardHabits says:

    Yes but how did he get that sprain? Doing that bow and arrow thing takes a lot of flexibility.

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    This entry was posted on Wednesday, March 24th,Hermes Handbags, 2010 at 2:12 pm and is filed under Chanel, Fendi, Gucci, Louis Vuitton. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2.0 feed. You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site. Responses to: Top 5 Eccentric Replica Handbags For Those April Showers mellie bellie ~ 03/24/2010 at 9:34 pm

    Hi Sofia, great article Love the Alligator Gucci. Today I was in a upscale department store that just so happens to carry LV’s. I was looking at the Trevi GM Bag and made a discovery. The label in the inside said LV Paris made in the USA. I pointed it out to the sales person that was assisting me and she said mmmmm. I did not know they were made in the USA. I said, I thought they were made in France and Spain. Were you aware that the LV’s were made in the US?

    Reply Sofia ~ 03/25/2010 at 3:49 pm

    They make Louis Vuitton in France, Spain and also in the United States. Most of what is sold in the U.S. has a U.S label so no need to worry my dear

    Reply Julia ~ 03/25/2010 at 3:51 pm

    Hello Sofia!
    I’m new to the world of replica and your site is a great help. Thank you!
    I want to buy my first replica bag – Jimmy Choo Mahala bag. Unfortunately, your favorite sites ReplicaValley.com and Replicavision.com don’t offer one. Maybe you could advise some store that offer a good quality Jimmy Choo replicas? Thanx again!

    Reply Sofia ~ 03/25/2010 at 4:31 pm

    I have been looking myself for some good Jimmy Choo but have come up dry! Anyone?

    Reply Jessica ~ 03/25/2010 at 6:11 pm

    Oh wow!!! I love that Gucci bag! Have any of the replicas been released anywhere?

    Reply Sofia ~ 03/26/2010 at 9:43 am

    Hey Jess, unfortunately the items in the 2010 collection won`t be available anywhere till summer

    Reply mellie bellie ~ 03/25/2010 at 8:33 pm

    Thanks Sofia!

    Reply maria ~ 03/25/2010 at 10:01 pm

    Sofia i need your advise on this site i have been viewing for a while now called ReplicaShippe.com . I am nervous because i never order anything from any site with no contact number. I love their Marc Jocabs, Miu Miu,and Jimmy Choo. This site has great pictures along with some great bags . Have you heard or know anything about this site , ohh they also offer free shipping which would be A++. I need your expertise, help meeee.

    Reply Sofia ~ 03/26/2010 at 10:26 am

    Hey Maria, sorry, but I tried accessing the website with no results coming up. Are you sure you gave me the correct link?

    Reply S.S ~ 03/26/2010 at 1:24 am

    Try Beubag.com? They have heaps of Jimmy Choos, including the one that I’ve been lusting over – Lohla-Jayne. Not sure if they’re legit or good quality though….

    Reply Sofia ~ 03/26/2010 at 10:40 am

    Hmm, but you see S.S., despite the fact that they have a tab saying Jimmy Choo purses, they carry only wallets.

    Reply Sofia ~ 03/26/2010 at 10:47 am

    wait a minute …I get it…I clicked on Jimmy Choo purses and got only wallets but if you do a search for Jimmy choo they do have bags.

    Reply Bego ~ 03/26/2010 at 7:00 am

    for Jimmy Choo you can try also they are both Chinese sites but they are serious.

    Reply Julia ~ 03/26/2010 at 4:00 pm

    Hi everyone! Checked out the sites you mentioned. It looks to me ReplicaEstore is the best for Jimmy Choo so far (at least they have plenty of pics what seem of a real bag). Bagaholics.com also have nice pics but these are too good to be true and very few pics per bag. I think I will try to buy Jimmy Choo at ReplicaEstore. Sofia, have you checked mentioned sites? What do you think? Thanx!

    Reply Sofia ~ 03/28/2010 at 3:28 pm

    I did a review of replicaestore but I am not a big fan of bagaholics because of the pictures. I have heard some people complain about the quality of the bags at replicaestore and some that are totally happy. The pictures are legit though so I recommend buying from them once you have inspected the picture well.

    Reply maria ~ 03/26/2010 at 4:49 pm

    Hi Sofia , If you google ReplicaShippe. Just type it in like this on the google box , it should come up. I tried to type the HTT:// etc. and it would not come up either. So i just Google it . Sorry about that Sofia. Thank You..

    Reply Sofia ~ 04/01/2010 at 11:08 am

    Looks like a complete fraud. Very unprofessional site and they only accept western union. Never shop at a site that only accepts western union. That is how people get their money stolen.

    Reply Rina ~ 05/04/2010 at 8:16 am

    Is there a way replicavalley could accept payment by credit card or paypal if ordering from singapore

    Reply Sofia ~ 05/04/2010 at 2:58 pm

    Have you tried their live chat support? They should know better than me

    Reply maria ~ 03/26/2010 at 5:00 pm

    Bego or anyone have you bought anything from any of the sites you listed above and if so what , and what is the rating of quality? Thank You

    Reply bego ~ 03/31/2010 at 1:31 pm

    Hi Maria yes i bought the alexa mulberry handbag from bagaholics and it’s perfect, very happy. About their pics, most of the models have at least 6 different side pictures.

    Reply Ash ~ 04/05/2010 at 5:07 am

    Hi Bego – was looking at the Alexa as well at bagaholics – it does look good! and I enquired and was told by customer service that the python is apparently real and not glued on – is that right? did you get the medium or oversized (the oversized seem to miss a few features..) I’m tossing up between Alexa and PS1 – but I wouldn’t recommend anyone buy the yellow PS1 as the rings are not the same as the authentic and cannot be removed easily!

    Reply bego ~ 04/05/2010 at 4:21 pm

    Hi Ash, i bought the Alexa oversized (i like to carry my newspaper, make up,…etc i need space) but is not too too big, in oak color, I love it,leather handbags! I don’t know what you mean by the python, anyway i just looked all around the bag and nothing is glued on.

    Reply Ash ~ 04/07/2010 at 2:51 am

    hi Bego, thanks for replying – I was meaning the python on the black – which I don’t think would be on the oak. sounds great – i might have to take the plunge.

    Reply Callie ~ 04/20/2010 at 10:37 am

    Sofia,

    Thank you for the informative and professional site here.

    I have also looked at replica-shippe.com and was considering buying some items from them, Gucci, to be specific. Several of these bags I’ve not found at the innumerable other sites I’ve checked out. Although there is neither a CS # nor a chat(at least that I could find), they have numerous customer reviews on their site. Now I know there isn’t a way to verify that these are authentic, but they do accept CC for payment and have some other features that seem legit. Many photos have their watermark, although I saw a few that I’ve seen on other sites, including replicaestore.

    What has me stuck on this site, again, is the availability of some Gucci bags I’ve been looking for. Their prices are competitive but not “cheap”. I actually put some items in my cart and was on the verge of putting a CC payment through when I noticed the statement on the processing page mentioning the possibility of payment being different on CC statement due to fluctuating exchange rate. Now I was assuming all along that when a site gives price in dollar amount, that I will be billed that amount ONLY. Can you shed some light on this? Also, if you find this site dubious, please alert the rest of us.

    Again, thank you for this wonderful site.

    Callie

    Reply Sofia ~ 04/22/2010 at 2:28 am

    Hi Callie,

    First I would recommend asking a question and checking their customer service response before buying. Since you can’t call email is your only option. You want to know that they respond in a timely manner.

    They do seem to have a good return policy. However, truth be told, my guess is that the text on this site is stolen from other sites. It seems a little mismatched. The same goes for the pictures.

    My conclusion is I would consider it a risk to buy from this site but their are no obvious warning signs that the site is an all out fraud.

    Regarding your concerns about the credit card charges I wouldn’t worry about that. They have alot of currencies on their site but they will only be able to actually process the charge in one currency. It is unclear what that currency is but it would appear that it is different than currency you have chosen. The difference in price should be negligible. It might even end up cheaper but that is depending on a whole bunch of factors that I don’t know much about. I do know that of the 3 currencies they could be working with dollar, Euro, or Chinese RMB all 3 are reasonably stable at the moment so you shouldn’t see any dramatic changes.

    Reply Zoubah ~ 04/23/2010 at 2:04 am

    Hello Sofia

    I purchased from before loved them but now they have been many mistakes on some bags that i wanted to get. But you can pay paypal or credit card and you could trust them. On the other hand I wanted to get a bag from and that woman is crazy dont ever get anything from her plus you can only pay cash money order a big NO NO.

    I’ve been looking to get the monogram denim blue LV 2010 (with fox tail) and I can’t get one nice looking bag all of them dont have the colored hardware and the quality is terrible! please help me to find a place for this denim 2010 LV (blue or pink or orange). Also I can’t get my hands on the Cheche LV 2010 bag in blue or pink do you know what replica store have these bags of LV 2010 PLEASE HELP I been waiting for more than 1 month and 1/2!!!!!!!!!!

    Reply Sofia ~ 04/23/2010 at 5:34 am

    You and me both! They already have the Neo at replicavalley and I am told they will the new denim sunrise by early next week. As for the Ceche it is my understanding that it is not yet available in China.

    Reply Elisha ~ 06/01/2010 at 4:07 pm

    Hey Sofia! Great website, after reading so many of your posts I feel like I’m ready to get my first replica! (I only have one genuine Gucci bag, and I feel so stupid for spending all that money! I never thought replicas could be so good).

    Two questions for you!
    1. Will the leather in replica LV bags get oxidized and darker? Because that part of it’s charm…
    2. OMG I simply h-a-v-e to get the new LV raindrop bag!!! Do you think it will ever be available as a replica? I think it’s gorgeous!!!

    Thanks!

    Reply Sofia ~ 06/01/2010 at 4:23 pm

    Hey Elisha, great to have you as a reader!
    To answer your first question,Gucci, yes, the leather does get darker. As for the Raindrop, I really don`t know, but it might, just like all the others
    Keep reading!

    Reply Jeannie ~ 06/11/2010 at 7:46 pm

    Hi Sofia! Have you tried a lot of fendi bags from how is their quality? because i’m interested in getting this bag..
    What do you think?

    Do you have any recommendations for an everyday, simple, lightweight bag for a student that’s good for most of the year? It doesn’t have to be fendi.. I was going to get the LV watercolor but i changed my mind.. =/

    Thanks!

    Reply Sofia ~ 06/14/2010 at 1:46 pm

    Hey Jeannie!
    That`s a great Fendi bag but it`s not something I`d use on a daily basis.
    A Speedy would be great for what you need. Or why not a Mulberry Alexa, which if I think about it more, is a much better choice! I`m planning on getting one very soon too,Prada, I`m still confused about the color, though blue was my first choice
    Here they are

    Reply vivian ~ 10/24/2010 at 7:02 pm

    Hey Sofia can you please check out this site to see if they have decent stuff? I wanted to get a louis vuitton 2010 gypsy bad, and they have pretty decent pictures.
    Thanks so much

    Reply Sofia ~ 10/25/2010 at 1:58 pm

    I will need the link for the site you want me to take a look at…

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