Gorges “missing” ACL for 7 years

AUDIO: Jacques Martin

Canadiens defenceman Josh Gorges took a philosophical approach today to his right knee injury, which in the days ahead will require reconstructive surgery on the anterior cruciate ligament he said he tore in his final year of junior hockey in 2003-04 in Kelowna.

Gorges added that annual checkups showed he could continue to play, but that one day the joint would need repair. That day has arrived.

Gorges hoped to know by day’s end, or soon thereafter, where and when he’d have his surgery, having finally damaged his knee to the point of needing an operation, on Dec. 26 in Long Island.

Only five Canadiens took to the ice this morning downtown at the Bell Centre: goalies Carey Price and Alex Auld, defencemen Roman Harmlik and Yannick Weber and forward David Desharnais.

Hamrlik told reporters he expected to be ready to return to action tomorrow night when the Boston Bruins visit the Bell Centre.

Five video clips of Gorges’s talk appear below.



  1. 24 Cups says:

    Not me, and I’ve been all over AK46 since I joined the site (with good reason).

    I realize that Andrei and Pouliot have been disappointments at times this year.  However, there is nobody in the system to replace them right now.  I may be alone on this point, but I’d bring them both back next year ( one year deals) as long as they don’t ask for the moon and the stars.

  2. krob1000 says:

    well I know….let’s offer Shero Gorges and Hammer and Markov for Fleury, Crosby and Cooke…thenwe’ll throw in 25 million dollars and a 1st, 2nd and 3rd pick….you think they’ll do it? they should because of last years playoffs you know….

  3. oshawahabsfan says:

    I remember yelling out loud a few times during the course of the game last night “where’s the finish!” They’re generating the chances only to sh!t the bed on the last touch, it’s happened numerous times a game recently, which is why they’ve lost as much as they have

  4. savethepuck says:

    Gorges is a warrior.  Surprised to hear he’s been playing with that for 7 years.  Constantly tried getting on here last night with no success ( probably a good thing cuz I had too many pops celebrating the win).  Last nights W was huge, I’m sure someone here has probably mentioned that if we beat Boston Saturday night, we are back in third place ( a big high five to Jose Theodore for helping us last night with a solid performance in Boston, definitely not the first time he’s done that there).  That is how this team wins hockey games, low scoring and close.  All the people here bitching earlier in the year about how much our pp sucked and about Gomez’s lack of production all while we were top 5 in the NHL, get over it.  Our PP was great and Gomer was producing over a point a game during our losing streak.  I prefer the W’s to harping about things while we are winning hockey games.  I don’t mind being the new New Jersey as long as we are winning.  That game will do a lot for Carey’s confidence, wasn’t playing bad of late, but also wasn’t the same as he was in the fall, think he was starting to have confidence issues and that’s where your focus stems from.

    BTW, where’s Shaker who has always said how terrible Pricey is on breakaways and hoped we never got in a shootout? Our first one last night and even sans Syd, stopping 4 of 4 Penguins is pretty impressive.

  5. light_n_tasty says:

    Yah, Crosby and Fleury really helped them out in last year’s playoffs.

  6. oshawahabsfan says:

    Here’s to a speedy recovery Gorges. Don’t pull a Markov though!

  7. krob1000 says:

    Was it in a stolen purse? ….and was there a Belarussian guy running up the bus and yelling as it was leaving the stop? I think it was the work of a very sophisticated group one that would need the likes of AK and HAmmer to lead the way.  Koivu was no leader he couldn’t have pulled it off.  If I remember correctly the other members of that ACL heist gone wrong were all allegeldly paperbagging it on the bus too ..they were bad for each other but now Higgy and Chips are diff’t sides of the US…and I heard Higgy’s half Italian brother Dagger is somewhere in the Midwest…but he was just a follower anyway. 

  8. LA Loyalist says:

    I think the significance of last night is that our Habs worked very hard.

    If they had been working this hard the last 6 weeks we would be in much better shape to handle this injuries in terms of more points in the bank.

    That’s the point.


  9. gloveside says:

    We’ll trade a 2nd pick for a couple of months of Dom Moore but can’t come up with better than the Stars offer of a 3rd for Langenbrunner? WTF? Why would we possibly need a guts guy like that?

  10. rocketsglare says:

    The problem IMO is not JM’s discipline oriented, D first system that some feel is stiffling our scorers, but that

    our scorers are just not burying their chances. The team last night had golden opportunities to score and yet,

    the shots either sailed high or wide or simply never arrived on the stick of the waiting player. The 5 on 3 PP is

    a case in point. The effort was there, but not the result. What I am saying is that the system is setting up for

    most of our players scoring chances that for what ever reasons are not being burried. Chalk it up to bad luck

    or fate, but the team is getting chances to score. As long as the team continues to work hard and play hard,

    the scoring chances will continue to come with the law of averages at some point braking in favor of our sco-

    res. The worst thing that can happen is for the team to panic and make a hasty roster move that could impact

    the team for years.

    Go Habs Go!

  11. krob1000 says:

    Yes we are depleted too…but the point or so I took it anyway was that our team is what it is…Gorges and Markov are not coming back….yes Hammer wil be but Crosby,Fleury, Cooke  vs Hammer,etc.  So ….true, both teams were depleted but the road to the cup goes through Pittsburgh in all likelihood…so what are we going to do to improve our team from last night…they are going to add the best player in the game, an effective agitator that we don’t have and their number one goalie….we will add Hammer…..see the diff? sure they may have worded it differently…but Gorges and Markov are no longer losses…for the rest of this year for all intents and purposes…they simply don’t exist for us.

    Two points is two points but realism is welcome too.  We need some fixing…in a lot of areas….we have most of the personnel within…they just have to play together and have their roles redefined but we neeed help front scoring…I am not as concerned as most defensively…I think our forwards are defensively aware enough to help the d and our goaltending is good enought that our main obstacle will still be scoring.

  12. SmartDog says:

    Dang!  I found this ACL on the bus in 2003 and had no idea who to return it to! 

    If only he had spoken up sooner….


  13. Mattyleg says:

    I guess some people just don’t like to be happy.

    They played against us, missing 3 of our top 4 defensemen.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  14. LA Loyalist says:

    I wasn’t crazy about framing the discussion in those terms, but obviously in this forum we work in a notational form.

    But the analogy of fans to shareholders in a public company I think is sound and a useful way to look at authority and accountability, that’s all.

  15. LA Loyalist says:

    I disagree that we poor slobs paying the bills have much power.

    When Bob Gainey came here he had all the most authority, credibility, honeymoon period, whatever you want to call since Scotty Bowman went to Buffalo.

    Stuff went horribly wrong, some of it BG error and some of it Force Majeur for which BG is certainly not accountable — hopefully BG will one day hire Boone or Serious09 to write a book and explain himself. I will buy it full price hard-cover.

    In the interim, I see this train-wreck year as an opportunity to figure this out.

    Blaming the fans? It’s like a CEO of a public company blaming the shareholders when a stock tanks.

    But guess what, fans, like shareholders, don’t have to sit quietly and take it when management screws up.



  16. shiram says:

    Rather have him right now, than anyone we can call up though.

  17. forskis says:

    If he was stalwart with one ACL…imagine how he could have been with 2 functioning ACLs?

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  18. SmartDog says:

    Re. Cami – I said it ealier, Cami couldn’t score last night if he was sealed up in a house with a suitcase full of coke and a dozen crack whores.

    Re. Wiz – When the trade was made, I said “take notice he’s been traded twice in two years for a bag of pucks”.  Some people crapped on me for not hollering with enthusiasm instead. I still like the trade, but I don’t LOVE the trade. He seems to have good skills but a downside too (BTW he was minus leader on the Isles).


  19. shiram says:

    Patience is a virtue is clearly not delirious…

    A win is a win, and considering the circumstances, I’m glad we won.

  20. forskis says:

    Amazing how fast you guys turn on them…last season many were calling Pyatt the steal of the Gomez trade and he was doing well…now you cannot wait to dump him…same with Moen…

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  21. patience is a virtue says:

    Hmmmmm?  Delirious?  Please re-read my post.  After you get past the part where I mockingly refer to the fact that we were missing Markov, Gorges and Hammer as “depleted” (to counter-balance all the excuse making for the Pens depleted predicament), you can read my list of serious criticisms of the Habs play.

    And that is exactly my point: we played so-so against the first place team in our conference and won.  Ummmm, that’s a good sign IMHO.

  22. forskis says:

    So you are telling me that a Habs team that is missing its Top-3 D-men with a fanbase expecting the Habs to get annihilated….and the team pulls out a win…and you are pooh-poohing it?  Would you rather that the Pens have waxed the Habs 8-1?  The rest of us want wins no matter what state the team is in…if they have to win ugly or work doubly hard for them, so be it…I do not want a tank job…especially just because the injuries are piling up after Game #41…who the heck demands a tank job in the middle of a season when the team is in somewhat decent shape?

    Of course, a team winning without half its starting defense means nothing…can’t give credit to the players after all since it was Crosby who was responsible for the win…last-time I checked, Malkin-Staal aren’t too shabby centremen either.

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  23. ooder says:

    holy crap.. he’s been playing like that for 7 years?!?!?!

    what a beast… goes to show how we really don’t know much about players lol


    88 is the new 23

  24. LA Loyalist says:

    Exactly. Can we discuss the conceptual part of coaching?

    Plan A: I see count chocula trying to break players to a fixed system. 

    Plan B: The other option is a coach like Pat Burns going to 3 different teams (coach of year 3x) and ajdusting HIMSELF to the players he has.

    Personally, i think plan A is insane in the modern game. Or is it inevitable in a diluted talent pool to have a system and players as fungible parts?

    I don’t know the answer, I just don’t understand JM’s philosophy, it’s playing not to lose, not trying to win.



  25. twocents says:

    That’s way more than is necessary and New Jersey wants to dump salary anyway.

  26. LA Loyalist says:

    um, yeah, nice win – against Pens who played the previous night and were without CROSBY and played B goalie against us… that’s a game we had to win and we did, but let’s not get delirious here. 

  27. patience is a virtue says:

    Just to balance out all the naysaying, taken in part from what I said in another thread:

    Two points from a “depleted” defense and some pretty poor performances up front last night: disjointed
    passing, couldn’t finish on the 5-3 when there was actually some nice
    passing, top guns in the doldrums, over-reliance on Price, etc.
    This huge W against the top team in our conference was very
    encouraging.  If we can beat the best with our scorers in a funk, that
    bodes well for these crucial next few games against the Bruins, Rangers and Pens again, when our top two lines will hopefully break out and average 3 goals per game.
  28. lenny says:

    those players are kinda of like seat fillers at the oscars. as for cammy, i think the super star status he was elevated to may have gone to his head. he seems more interested in looking pretty then playing well

  29. Kooch7800 says:

    Benny is doing pretty well IMO. He is on the third line and is not that far off the numbers of our top 6 guys.

  30. volcano62 says:

    Who would agree on Langenbrunner for AK46 straight up? (Might be too late according to TSN)

  31. bwoar says:

    “Don’t like it, don’t read it…”  Well most days I do ignore this site, mostly because win or lose, there’s always someone here to say the sky is falling.  We could’ve beaten them 6-5 and you’d be here hang-wringing over the defense. Ogre, absolutely no one here is ignorant of the team’s problems.  By now they are obvious.  I mean c’mon, you even expected to get told off.

    You must live in Montreal, where complaining passes for wisdom and on the sunniest days the dog crap just stinks that much worse.

  32. lenny says:

    keep him with plecky and AK, let them work it out without juggling the lines. if nothing in 10 games, then switch it up

  33. RGM says:

    I think with Kostitsyn it is mostly psychological/mental. It’s like Benny x10 – all that skill and talent but just doesn’t have the right mindset to put it all together consistently.

    Go Habs Go!

  34. mike g says:

    Moen’s just that kind of player..

    He’s like Pyatt. They’re paid to waste time. Dump the puck, hit someone (doesn’t even have to be a big hit), cycle a little, and change lines.

    Waste 45 seconds off the clock. I call them break players, they give rest time to the top 6.

    And Cammy, well he’s playing like a 7 year old girl. Looks like he’s affraid to break a nail. Isn’t willing to take one for the team, so no results.

    Selfish…Then he wonders why he wasn’t named captain.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  35. otter649 says:

    So Gorges played seven years with a torn ACL – I wonder if he played with or without a knee brace as well for that time………..

  36. Bugs says:

    I prefer small Dezzy who “gives it to the d-man” every now again (like Crosby does every now and again too, btw) yet PICKS UP POINTS over “big body” Eller who does absolutely jack-all.

    It’s just business.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  37. mike g says:

    I haven’t seen AK tired, ever…

    I’ve yet to see him out of breath at the end of a shift because he gave it his all and tried his hardest.

    Last night I saw on 4 occasions him doing the same dumb, effortless play; Pleks and Cammy were in the corner battling for the puck, and instead of AK using his “size and strength” and hitting the one of the Pens players who’s coming out with the puck, he just simply skates by the boards, then cuts behind the net, and goes for a line change. Never waived his stick to try and poke it or get posesion of it, never hit anybody to get the puck either, nothing…

    Just floated around just to let everyone watching on tv that he was still there.

    I’m sorry, but he shoulda sat for the rest of the game. Apart from him appartently being a “physical force”, playing with Pleks and Cammy should make him play even more physical because he knows he needs to be since he’s playing with tiny linemates.

    And he’s none of that. I saw him give one hit last night, behind the play, nothing big, and then went for a line change.

    Sad, sad player to watch….


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  38. adam76 says:

    Cammy is playing hard, but not getting the results.  Now sure how to “solve” the issue.

  39. Bugs says:

    We already have Chris Higgins. Goes by the name of Pacioretty is all.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  40. lenny says:

    I’m not sure why Moen gets as much playig time as he gets. He can’t finish off his scoring chanes, doesn’t really use his toughness,and seems over matched everytime he is on the ice.

    As for Cammy, ever since JM played with the line in the beginning of the season he has not been the sam. Granted he could be  astreaky player netting 10 goals in 12 games, but I was expecting much more from him this year.


  41. SLONCOLD says:

    well AK is not practising because he doesn’t want to be tired…. funny how price played well last given the fact that he was soooo tired lol.

  42. REB says:

    On question #3 you forgot to include Chris Higgins….he’s a better option than the others you listed.



  43. ooder says:

    i was at thte game last night…

    and 2 players stood out.. and in a bad way.

    Wiz (although il cut him some slack) and cammy.

    man oh man.. this guy couldn’t pass,. couldnt shoot.. and was almost as ineffective as Moen.. tehre i said it!


    88 is the new 23

  44. Rugger says:

    Some good points, I think part of the problem may be the coaching changes bringing in their own system (except NJ, which tries to play the same regardless of coach & player).  I think the traits of great coaches is to adapt their system to the types of players they have.  Bill Parcells was excellent at it, going from a run heavy, defensive Giants to a wide open approach when he went elsehere.

  45. mike g says:

    Ok, so…

    Price plays like a monster last night, like usual, and is on the ice this morning WORKING on his skills and trying to get better.

    AK plays like a bum again, like usual, looks like a total dork in the shootout, and is not on the ice trying to get better…..

    Ok, got it.

    Remind yourselves why I always bash AK and cant stand him.

    This is exactly why. He’s a player who’s been in the crapper for 2 months and hasn’t produced anything but ugly highlights for way too long, yet he’s taking it easy. And I’m not just saying it because he’s not on the ice TODAY, it’s just him being lazy and not caring again. He should be on the ice every chance he gets, trying to justify his top 6 spot and place on the wing next to our best centerman.

    And I doubt he needs one of those “maintenance days” to heal his boo-boo’s and injuries. Someone who plays lazy the way he does and without effort cannot justify and injury, unless it’s psychological.

    Wow, I still can’t believe he goofed like that last night, what an embarassment…


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  46. TommyB says:

    The answer to your question lies right here on this site, for starters.  The people you mentioned were in fact here to pass on the “institutional knowledge”, the “best practices”.  As well, “the methodology for passing this on” was also here.  Fans and media scrutiny drove those people out of here, as they will conutinue to do with anyone else from our past who finds himself back in the fold, either coaching or somewhere else in management (beware Patrick Roy, beware).  You mention Detroit, as so many others do, as a model for everything the Habs are not.  Consider the differences media-wise, and rabid fan-wise, before you begin to compare the two.

  47. avatar_58 says:

    Players are only worth something if a team wants them. If a team shows a desire, you can ask for whatever you want or else they don’t make a deal. Obviously NJ didn’t want Langenbrunner and didn’t really care what they got in return, otherwise they wouldn’t have made such a terrible trade. Salary dump at best.

  48. deuce6 says:

    I expected replies of this nature..Sorry, I am not a “rah-rah” type of fan when ever we win…It has been an ongoing reality that this team doesn’t score because of a size handicap..

    Our top 6 has been anemic..They can’t give any kind of consistent scoring..I have an issue with that, shoot me..lol

    I created this post simply because one 2-1 SO win doesn’t excite me going forward..I am worried that this team won’t make the show..How many times have we been shut out this year?

    Yoiu wanna hear something funny? Cammy is on a 24 goal season clip..Great job..He gets paid 6M to score 24 goals? Gomez is on pace for a 40 point season…Great $$ management..I could go on..

    But everything in Habland is rosey because of a 2-1 SO win …Don’t like it, don’t read it..

  49. HabFanSince72 says:

    I love corporate bullshit doublespeak.

    Now put that on a Powerpoint.

  50. HabFanSince72 says:

    If Lagenbrunner is worth a 3rd then Bieksa and Kaberle aren’t worth much more.


  51. deuce6 says:

    In your defense, Bugs, Pouliot was the only guy that deserved it..He played hard and used his bigger body, but he doesn’t get top line minutes…I am talking more of our top 6 forwards..They are just too small..

    ..and DD doesn’t impress me..He lead a 3 on 1 last night and he gave it right to the d-man..I thought this guy was supposed to be some kind of magician with the puck? Give me Eller’s big body any day…

  52. LA Loyalist says:

    DUMBEST QUESTION OF THE DAY (inspired by:”Gotta Wear Shades”)

    We have a LEGENDARY history of GREAT defensive and two way forwards, Gainey (of course), Carbo, Lemaire, Saku, Muller, Keane… Joe Juneau on face-offs, and THINKERs about the game, famously Gainey and Lemaire… my question is — and I hate to put this in corporate terms, but where the hell is the “institutional knowledge”, the “best practices” the methodology for passing this on… Detroit seem to be managing it… 

    We get a stud like PK and the team doesn’t seem to know what to do with him, similarly New Jersey couldn’t absorb what Kovalchuk brings… who owns this? 

    I thought this is what we were getting when Gainey came back and brought in Carbo… obviously (not to beat a dead chicken) that went kablooie…

    …but if there were ever an opportunity to look at our culture and be pro-active instead of reactive in terms of who we draft, who we trade for, who we play, who we keep — this would be it.

    To me this is the upside of Markov and Gorges being down. We’re not winning the cup this year, so let’s use our time and resources wisely.

    Let’s play the kids, sure, but let’s look at them from the prospective of what is USED to mean to play for The Montreal Canadiens. Pride, effort, skill – not millionaire coasters who have the leisure of deciding which games they feel like showing up for…

    Can we discuss without vitriol? (or not)




  53. bwoar says:

    Y’know what Ogre?  After a win, it’s nice to see comments that the sky is not falling, the team is not destructing, the coach is not a blithering idiot, etc. etc.

    What’s more annoying after a win than that?

    I’ll tell you what is: it’s people who start sentences with “Not trying to piss on anyone’s parade” and then their very next clause attempts said micturation.  Your whole post is about peeing all over the Habs after a win.

    Do you honestly believe that people here are happy with scoring one goal?  Or that we think it’ll be enough for the rest of the season?  Of course not.  But we’re discussing last night’s game and people have different opinions on it.  Some hated AK, come thought he played well and blame Cammalleri for the top line’s dysfuntion.

    Others praised Pouliot for a good game.  In fact him and Price handed us the victory.  So it’s nice to see a guy who’s routinely bashed DO WELL and EARN PRAISE.

    I’ve been against Desharnais in the lineup for a while, but today I’m nibbling on a bit o’ crow, 2 games isn’t a good sample but lil DD looked right at home on our best line last night.

    Sure, 2-1 in the SO isn’t convincing, but guess what?  The other team was trying to win too, and they didn’t.  Against a team missing its best player and the best half of its defense.  With 3 rookies and something like 6 players who spent 1/2 their year playing in Hamilton last year.  Last night we took 2 important points.

    So piss away if you must.  But when you’re done, piss off.

  54. deuce6 says:

    I just think this team, top 6, is just too small to get to the prime scoring areas of the ice..Sooner or later this team is gonna have to make a move to bring in some bigger bodies..Not just for this year, but for future seasons, as well..

    With 3 of our top 6 guys out on the back end, it may be that the forwards were in more of a back checking role, last night, but if this was the case, how did we give up 32 SOG???

    The culture has to change up front..Not only this season, but going forward..We need to get bigger.. 

  55. avatar_58 says:

    I’d argue AK46 and Cammy have been off for more than 4 days

  56. avatar_58 says:

    Wait why didn’t he get it fixed during one of the off-seasons? I like that he is a warrior but cmon, that’s a little risky especially if he didn’t come clean to the GMs

  57. Bugs says:

    Note 1: enjoy 4 days off to recollect abilities.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  58. Bugs says:

    Took considerably less time than Eller to collect his first pt too…

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  59. Bugs says:

    You wanted him to be captain because you KNEW he was playing injured for 7 years?

    Why didn’t you tell anybody?

    Mesmells 20/20 hindsight over here…

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  60. Bugs says:

    Well…to be fair, I was praising Poolio.

    Rather emphatically, actually.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  61. avatar_58 says:

    That’s funny given if teams play montreal minus Plekanec it would be “so what it’s one forward, suck it up” but Crosby is “their top line”? No sorry, suck it up Pens. One player does not a team make.

  62. Hobie Hansen says:

    I agree 100%. I think we have to take a wait and see approach until the deadline draws closer though.

    Half of our defensemen are currently without contracts for next season and Markov and Gorges are gone for the year.

    No sense in brining in a forward for a high price if our defense is going to be shakey and cost us a playoff birth.

    Unless Gauthier can go out and trade for a power forward and defenseman we should probably just ride the season out and see what happens…no sense in only getting one of the two.


  63. deuce6 says:

    Look down..

  64. light_n_tasty says:

    Who was praising the forwards?

  65. deuce6 says:

    One 2-1 SO win and we praise our forwards??

    Guys, we still need to find scoring from our top 6..They can’t finish..If it weren’t for a fresh Price, we would have lost..Seriously..

    We beat a team without it’s top line C and with their back up and all is forgotten? I am big a Habber as the next guy, but truth be told, scoring 1 goal just doesn’t cut it over the long haul..How many games do you win scoring 1 freaking goal?

    Not trying to piss on anyone’s parade, but this team needs a major jolt in the scoring dept.

    ..and Langenbruuner would not help..His best days are behind him..Let DAL have him..

    We need to bring in a sniper with size..Someone in the Iggy mold to help this anemic offense, IMO..

  66. Gotta Wear Shades says:

    Perhaps… but with Devil alumni Gomez and Gionta already there you would think he’d consider it. Oh well… it’s all speculation… but he would have been a good fit.

  67. Malreg says:

    Keep in mind that Langenbrunner had a full NTC, and he waived it to go to his old team Dallas, and play for his good buddy Joe Nieuwendyk. 

    Maybe PG did go after him, but he wouldn’t come here?  I guess no one knows really…

  68. LA Loyalist says:

    Pain threshold?!!! You want pain threshold? How about us FANS – – we’re the ones with the PAIN THRESHOLD!!

    Serious, all blessing to Josh for a perfect recovery. If he had to miss a year this is the one to miss.  Get it rebuilt, getting he and Markov back in a year will be like adding 100 horsepower to a car.

    Let’s look hard at what we have coming and build accordingly, patiently, wisely – and oh yeah, only 2 years till Gomess is gone!!! …700ish  sleeps!!!

  69. Gotta Wear Shades says:

    Really? I thought Cammi had a great game – but I also think that Benny was the best player on the Habs last night (Malkin the Glass on the Pens). 

    Kostitsyn had a bad SO attempt, yes – but he played a solid two way game, hitting, active with the passing lanes, etc. One thing I did notice was the Habs feeble attempts at working the puck down low… that’s why I think passing on a chance to get a workhorse like Langenbrunner in was a miss by PG.

  70. TripleX says:

    Josh admits to playing with a torn ACL for the last SEVEN YEARS!

    What a warrior he must have an unbelievable pain thresh hold.  That is why I wanted him to be captain.

    As far as AK goes.  What game were you watching?  He was the best player on the line.  Cammi is the softest player on the puck on the team and is a slacker.



    “I don’t like to keep kids like that out of the lineup. They need to play; that’s how they’re going to get better.” Jacques Martin

  71. SLONCOLD says:

    he seems to have a good work ethic. the guy doesn’t take a shift off either. he earned a shot and lets hope he can continue to help out of the team.

  72. bwoar says:

    It’s only been 2 games, but I will stand up and admit I was wrong about Desharnais.  He doesn’t look at all out of place.  Granted, had Crosby played, the matchups would’ve been different.  But he hasn’t been a liability, in fact the opposite.  I expected less, in fact the guy played with a lot of confidence and jump.  Here’s to hoping he can keep up that spark on the 3rd line.

    And for good measure, Price stonewalls Malkin all night.  Who needs defensemen?

  73. Hali_Hab says:

    I agree 100 percent with you  on the elller/DD topic, i wish he wold just play them both. It would be quite benificial to the team and those players in the long run, For a team with a gm that talk’s about the “Middle and long term” almost all the time, they have a strange coaching approach when it comes to young players and their ice time.   


    “After 13 years, I couldn’t accept to be number two.“
    Guy Lafleur.

  74. Hali_Hab says:

     The addition of a dustin penner would be nice …


    “After 13 years, I couldn’t accept to be number two.“
    Guy Lafleur.

  75. Dunboyne Mike says:

    No doubt Martin is omniscient, clued in on factors upon which we can only speculate (or not comment). But based on what I’m seeing, I would work with Cammy, help him find his groove, and I would sideline Gomez and AK — trade, demote, pressbox, anything. Streakiness is an affliction that has to be accepted and worked with when it comes to scoring, timing, decision-making. But streakiness in intensity is not acceptable. OK, if there are hidden injuries, or terrible personal traumas going on, you have to cut slack (for a while). But otherwise, streakiness in intensity is just not professional. 

    I desperately want to see us in the playoffs, and I believe we have a better chance getting there by throwing Eller and DD in at the deep end now, put them on a very steep but rewarding learning curve, build their confidence (although not sure if that’s part of JM’s modus operandi), and let them take part ownership of the journey to the second season.

    The only thing that would make me hesitate to offload Gomez or AK would be if I were convinced it would make a significant hit on other players’ morale.

    Great win last night, SO necessary, lots of good things. And so what they didn’t have their best player? We haven’t had ours since Markov was injured. Sports is a lottery.

  76. Hobie Hansen says:

    Good to see Price is out skating this morning after a solid game last night. The kid is working very hard this year, not partying like crazy like he was the last couple years.

  77. likehoy says:

    I’m still upset that JM benched AK for the OT…

    what is this guy thinking? AK outplayed pleks and cammy during regulation time.

    Man did cammalleri suck last night…but AK gets blamed.


    Just trade AK already if we’re going to keep doing this to him.

    – Gomez is holding down the suck button

  78. SmartDog says:

    AK is younger.  It’s all about seniority.

    But seriously… there was something wrong with AK last night.  I noted on the other thread that on one of his shots – hit the goalie right in the bread basket – AK didn’t even look up.  Skated down the left, made a nice move to create space to shoot, no one near him and he wrists it… and THEN looks up.  All the time looking at the puck. That’s not how you score.

  79. G-Man says:

    AK did nothing all game. Have you noticed in replays that whenever he has the puck, he is always looking down at it? And we wonder why he is such a poor player, when he can’t handle the puck like a peewee or bantam age player can.

  80. SmartDog says:


    1. If it was on the table, would you sign Markov for $3.5 million/year for two years?

    2. Would you sign Gorges for $3 million/year for a year?

    3. If you had a chance to get one of these players back for a decent trade, which would you lean to taking: Lats, Grabs, Dags.

    4. Should Price stick with the posing?  Are you happy to have a goalie with some flair?

    5. Which do the Habs need more: shooting practice, face-off practice, hitting practice.


  81. forskis says:

    Just going to answer #4 for fun….it depends, will Don Cherry, Mike Richards and the media get on his case for being cocky and disresepctful to more veteran members of the League?

    On a more serious note…the players have grown up playing a game they love…it is nice that they show it and go back to acting like the kids they used to be when just playing the game for fun.

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  82. StevieRay says:

    1. no

    2. yes


    4.love it !

    5. posing !

  83. G-Man says:

    1. I am afraid Markov is done, so no. 2. 2.25 to 2.5 mil max- no offensive upside so no big pay day 3. Lats- but then I am biased towards players that can hit and score. 4. No. After the last 12 months he should stick to stopping the puck. I like the Ben Cahoon “no big thing” attitude. 5. All 3 ad nauseum. I bet peewees can hit the net and other players more often than this gang that can’t shoot worth sh!t nor hit anyone either. The f/o is particularly weak- only one is reasonable at it and that ‘s Halpern.

  84. HFX-HabFan says:

    1- Yes, but there’s no way his price is coming down that low.  That’s ridiculous.  He’ll come back for another few years at $5.5mil or $5.75mil/yr.

    2- Gorges should get a 3-4 year deal in the $2.5mil-$3mil/yr range.

    3- None.  Lats is fat, Grabovski is a pansy, and Dags couldn’t crack our top six when he was here- too streaky.

    4- I don’t think he should do it all the time, but people have to realize it was our first shootout of the year, he’s done it in the past, it shouldn’t be a huge shock that he will do this stuff from time to time.  I’m fine with it.

    5- All of the above.  Sadly, we don’t have that many hitters.

  85. rdiddy says:


    1. If it was on the table, would you sign Markov for $3.5 million/year for two years? – uh YES

    2. Would you sign Gorges for $3 million/year for a year? – Yes. let Hammer and Gill walk. We need Gorges

    3. If you had a chance to get one of these players back for a decent trade, which would you lean to taking: Lats, Grabs, Dags. – Lats. but none of them have a shot at success with JM at the helm.

    4. Should Price stick with the posing?  Are you happy to have a goalie with some flair? Yes. Reminded me of Brian Wilson of the SF Giants everytime he got a save.

    5. Which do the Habs need more: shooting practice, face-off practice, hitting practice. – Shooting. They miss the net way too much


  86. twocents says:

    1. In a heartbeat

    2. No, too high

    3. None

    4. That’s up to him. Yes.


  87. likehoy says:

    1. yes 3.5/year 2 years is good, but I’d lock him up for 3 over that time…a lower team might sign him for 5+ (look at mark streit) regardless of injuries. some teams need a number 1 dman that badly

    2. no, way overpaid, 2 million tops, he’s making 1.6 this year?

    3. i’d take grabs back, but ribs for sure if I had a choice, SK too, who’s only 2 points from being the preds scoring leader

    4. yea I always liked the cockiness, as long as he plays well, I don’t care what he does before or after games.

    5. habs need breakout practice on top of it all, I think our lack of good shots is due to the lack of quick breaks that we miss from andrei markov. we get very few oddman rushes in a game.

    – Gomez is holding down the suck button

  88. FrederictonHabsfan says:

    1.  Yes.  at 3.5mil and only 2 years i would gamble on him being abel to stay healthy.  several of his injuries were just bad luck and the most recent one i think might have been from coming back too quickly.  I felt he should ahve stayed out until at least after the Allstar break.

    2. Yes.  I look at Chris Philips @ 3.5 mill a year and think that 3 for Josh is a bargain.

    3. D’ags.  I can’t stand Grabs and his attitude.  So a huge no on him.  Lat’s has proved he buys into the “french star” side of Montreal, and has alreayd gotten into Minny’s doghouse for being in poor shape.  I don’t think he has the heart to be good onver a long period.  D’ags was one of those hard working honest guys like Darche is.  I don’t think they gave him enough time in the AHL before bringing him up, and then turned around and gave up on him too easily.  He won’t be a star but he coudl be a very good 3rd liner.

    4. ABSOLUTELY.  I don’t give a crap what all these talking head morons say about PK and Carey.  I LOVE them having/showing some personality. It shows me that they are having fun and loving what they do, as well as having a confidence.  If othe teams don’t like it then shut them up on the scoreboard.  I don’t understand why the heck these guys want them to have some sort of “be boring as crap” code in the NHL.  The fans LOVE the triple low 5, they love PK getting in Crosby’s head, they love Carey being confident and having fun, as well as playing to the crowd a bit…..  if Don Cherry and the other brain dead morons hate it, even better!

    5. Do I have to pick just one?  If I do i’m going with shooting… only it’s going to be shooting thorugh a crowd while you have 1-2 guys SCREENING THE GOALIE.



  89. Kooch7800 says:

    1. I would give him 4 with performance clauses to get him up to over 5.

    2.  I would probably give Gorges 3.  He is that integral to the penalty kill etc. If Gill gets 2.5, Gorges deserves at a minimum 2.75 per season for a long term deal.

    3.no.  Dag’s possibly but he is a streaky player

    4. Why not. Doesn’t hurt the game at all.

    5. The entire forward roster

  90. Hobie Hansen says:

    1. Yes

    2. Yes

    3. None

    4. Who cares

    5. All

  91. mrhabby says:

    1…yes .. a bargain.

    2. yes..a bargain.

    3…none of them.

    4..keep it up,  its good for the confidence.

    5.he shoots he scores.

  92. GrimJim says:

    1.  Ab-sitivily.

    2. Again a no-brainer.

    3. Dags.

    4. Price having some flair is fine. More importantly, Price seems to recognize now when he’s having problems and works to solve those problems. I have no problem with a guy celebrating a victory when he works hard to minimize defeats.

    5. Split answer. I would send the centres for face-off practice and everyone else for shooting practice.

  93. Fant-HAB-ulous says:

    I love your question time posts!


    1- For sure

    2- Make it two years +

    3- Not a chance

    4- For sure…nice to see some personality from athletes

    5- Face-offs

  94. newbrunswick troy says:

    good questions!!

        1-    for sure markov is worth it!!!even if health is a gamble- insurance company will pay rest

        2-   gorges is worth 3mil…but only if it looked like another team was willing

         3-Grabovsky looks like he,s come in to his true potential…so him providing team captain was ok with it

         4- price needs a little flair …it works for him and P.k (don,t take the person out of the player)

         5-Habs need a ton of shooting practice…couldn,t count how many times they mis-Q,d last night!!!

  95. alestar says:

    1. In a heartbeat…

    2. 2.5 would look better, but if it took 3 to keep him, do it!

    3. NONE

    4. If he backs it up with great goltending and wins I have no problems with it…nice to see some emotion from Price

    5. All, but start with shooting


    XXIV…and counting

  96. habfan53 says:

    1- Yes

    2- In a heart beat

    3- NONE of them

    4- I love it leave him alone

    5- You forgot passing practice   they are always passing inn the skates or a bit behind

  97. HabFanSince72 says:

    1. I would, but why would Marky? The duration and amount are an insult, even taking injuries into account. Compare to Ludomir Visnovsky, who at Markov’s age  signed a 5 year $5.6M contract.

    2. Yes, but again why would he? Only one year?

    3. No thanks. Lats in particular, after his anti-Hab screed.

    4. Sure.

    5. None. They need to work the powerplay.

  98. Rugger says:

    1 Yes

    2 Assuming surgury is deemed a “success”, yes

    3 If I had to take one, it would be Dags, but really none.

    4 As long as he stops the puck I don’t care if he does the Icky Shuffle.

    5 Shoot, shoot, shoot both for accuracy and to get into the habit of actually shooting rather than passing.

  99. Propwash says:

    1. Yep.

    2. Depends on how our prospects are doing.

    3. None of the above.

    4. Sure, why not? A guy who scores a goal can celebrate, why can’t a goalie celebrate after being a wall in a shootout?

    5. Finishing chances practice.


    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  100. BMO HAB says:

    Great effort by Price to stone the Malkin/Staal led Pens team last nite.  However, very disappointing to see another game where the TOP 6 have gone MIA once again. This team cannot compete for points until that group starts to properly do its job collectly each night and that means…SCORE GOALS !!! If that’s the case…its time to break them up ….. and I don’t mean change the lines.

  101. likehoy says:

    that’s an interesting assessment, but I think he’s lacking a lot of confidence.

    he used to always be looking up and shooting and then he’d miss the puck….and whifs it and pierre houde will say “andrei fan l’air..” so I guess this is him adapting? no clue.

    but cammy on the flipside has his head up and still misses the net…I guess our “goalscorers” don’t really know how to score goals these days.

    – Gomez is holding down the suck button

  102. StevieRay says:

    AK ..not to worry .. he was justing wishing he was in Buffalo on the plane with his home boys !

  103. adamkennelly says:

    AK needs to go…he is so clearly mailing it in…other offensive, talented players are underachieving but this guy takes the cake.  with his build and size, he should at least be out there crashing and banging and making it hard for opponents..he skates around avoiding the puck, half assing it and looks like he don’t give a crap either way….


    P.S.  good thing we were not in on Langenbrunner for a 3rd rounder eh…

  104. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Agreed re AK. It’s simple — there is never any evidence to suggest that winning hockey games is his number one priority. So let him ply his trade in his half-arsed manner elsewhere, talent and size or no. 

  105. Jordio-oh says:

    For what its worth, Kostitsyn has the most hits on our team (now that Laps is gone) and he has more hits than other bigger skilled guys like Bobby Ryan,Byfuglien, Franzen,Dubinsky, Kesler.

    But you are right, he is quite frusterating to watch at times.

  106. SLONCOLD says:

    so i guess price wasn’t tired last night? he had a solid game. fun to watch!

  107. Dunboyne Mike says:

    He was the ICE MAN in the shootout! So economical, intimidatingly controlled. Two trapper stops!

  108. likehoy says:

    well he still had a better game than michael cammalleri

    – Gomez is holding down the suck button

  109. Rudy says:

    So they have three days off, no travel, and the freaking Bruins are here tomorrow night and it’s an optional skate. I just don’t get it.

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  110. otter649 says:

    So Langenbrunner gets traded out of New Jersey where he was team captain so who gets the C now Parise or that other guy with the long term contract #17……….

  111. avatar_58 says:

    Almost definitely Parise. If they give it to Kovalchuk I will laugh my ass off

  112. Gotta Wear Shades says:

    TSN is reporting that Langenbrunner has been traded to the Stars for a conditional 3rd rounder…

    If PG wasn’t in the hunt for this guy he missed the boat, he’s a UFA at year’s end and is only getting $2.8M this year.

  113. Kooch7800 says:

    I saw that.  A third rounder, man that is a steal.  We need help on offense in a bad way.  He could have been that help for cheap.  Oh well. Maybe PG knows that we are in tough with our D and this year may be better to just stay out of the trades from here on out

  114. FrederictonHabsfan says:

    Oh, and just a bit mroe about #3.

    If i could bring anyone back, it would have been Mark Streit.  Even though he might have been overpaid by a bit, he has shown he can get it done defensively, while being huge on the PP.    Would have been great to have:




    (assuming you never sign Spacek, though you may have had to trade Hammer already to make this work under the cap)

  115. SLONCOLD says:

    i think it’s a conditional third pick and/or a second rounder if he signs next year.


    i don’t know how usefull he would be on our team really. he wouldn’t hurt but who would he really replace?

  116. Kooch7800 says:

    I would think it would be more of a depth move in case we have any forward injuries.  JL has great defensive play and can score.

    He could play on the bottom six and them move him up when needed. We all know JM never keeps line combo’s together. 

    Our Top 6 really need to get going. They are all underachieving this year, AK, Cammy, Gio and Gomer have to start firing it up.  I like what Paccioretty brings to the table but he hasn’t really brought much on the offense in the last few games but I don’t know if that is him or more attributed to his line mates.

  117. Gotta Wear Shades says:

    Agreed – and imagine then what JL could have done in tutoring a young version of himself in MaxPac!?!

  118. LA Loyalist says:

    Jersey fans are saying he is pretty much used up, but will be a good depth player for Dallas.

    We need more than that, even at a ‘bon prix’.


  119. Kooch7800 says:

    I think what team he was on has a bit to do with it as well though. Nj is terrible and he really doesn’t have anyone to play with.

    On a side note, I think Eller should be sent down if he isn’t going to play.  He needs to develop. I think he will be a solid third line guy for the habbies in the future but having him in the press box doesn’t do anyone any good.  DD has looked pretty solid in his first couple outings.


  120. Kooch7800 says:

    and the bonus that he has played with Gio and Gomer before would be an additional bonus.  I actually thought the habs would make a run at him but with the loss of two of our D men maybe this year will just be a build within year which isn’t so bad

  121. Bugs says:

    A Priceberg, you could say.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  122. Dunboyne Mike says:


  123. SLONCOLD says:

    hum… that’s kinda silly. if he didn’t have an acl, why wouldn’t he have it repaired? Without an acl, meniscus damage is going to happen; your body needs an acl fro stability. i hear all this what a warrior talk but it’s stupidity on his behalf.

  124. HabFanSince72 says:

    Where did you do your orthopedics residency?


  125. Ian Cobb says:

    Awesome shootout goal by Leafs star

    In my opinion, just a goal. But this is all Toronto has to talk about anyway.!

  126. Kooch7800 says:

    I have to admit that was a pretty slick goal.

  127. rocketsglare says:

    Ian, imagine if he would have lost control of the puck while spinning. He would have been derided in the media for

    his hot dog move. He got lucky. I’m not a fan of these flamboyant moves. Maybe, I’m just old fashioned.

    Go Habs Go!

  128. DearyLeary says:

    Best of luck to Josh.  He’s consistently one of the most dependable players on our team ever since we acquired him.  Not a lot of flash or size, but he more than makes up for it with efficient play, and being tough as nails.

    On the greedy side, maybe his value drops a touch due to the injury… cursed salary cap.

  129. 24 Cups says:

    Tough as nails?  Easy does it.  Gorges may bring many positive attributes to the team but he loses a lot of battles in front of the net and is strictly average along the boards and in the corners.

    I realize there is a love-in for this guy but let’s try and keep it in perspective. 

  130. DearyLeary says:

    You mean HI/O doesn’t stand for Habs Institute for Orthepedics?

  131. joeybarrie says:

    Very nice….

    Even if you tear your ACL it does not necessarily mean you can no longer be mobile. Depending on the tear and the severity you can go one and adapt for it. Not the best advice, but if you can do no further damage, why have the surgery till you need it. Especially for a player like Gorges who was always under valued and had been scraping for ice time until recent years.

    I didn’t listen to his explanation, but i do know a tear is not 100% surgery. The human body is an amazing thing.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  132. SLONCOLD says:

    since i blew out out my acl, mcl, lcl and meniscus and had my knee rebuilt…

  133. SLONCOLD says:

    The amazing human body can not rebuild an acl without surgery. when you play contact sports or any sport that requires pivot like actions on the knee joint your risk further damaging your knee because without an acl (even with a brace) you expose your tibia to displacement.

  134. madcap_habsfan says:

    as i said before, here’s hoping for a speedy recovery to my fave hab




    -“People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” Chuck Palahniuk

  135. JD_ says:

    * The way the Pens play without Crosby tells me the Hart is his to lose. Not that he’s got his eye on it or anythin’, but just the same.

    * Thank Jeebus for PK. In the absence of so many starters, he’s a rookie playin’ vet minutes and lookin’ more and more structured in his play. Still goes for the occasional venture into the O-zone, but doesn’t overstay his welcome. Not bad given how absolutely and tragically ruined he is so early in his inevitably soon-to-be-over career.

    * Rough night for Newsy. Responsible for a third of the Habs’ giveaways on a night where the team’s passin’ was blade-to-blade, albeit from the stick one to the skate one. One segment in the first period, I think, said it all: Newsy put the puck in MaxPac’s skates, Max recovered it and put it in Gio’s skates at the Pens blueline. If Captain G looks down to find it, he’ll get pasted. Puck gone. Play over. Strange how the team’s passin’ efficiency simply craps out across the board on some nights. Just like last season, however, it only seems to happen at the Bell Centre. Probably a pressure thing.

    * The three-star selection at the Bell Centre has gone from bein’ a bit of a sideshow to Bozo the Clown’s bulbous red nose. A 2-1 S/O victory and it’s a Habs parade. Honk! Honk! Wouldn’t be so goofy except for the fact there’s a trophy awarded and some meaningful Habs have their names engraved on it. I suggest they either go back to the ol’ system or just drop the whole thing altogether in favour of handin’ every player from both teams one of those participation trophies that get doled out at the end of the season to all the l’il tots in amateur sports leagues. Heck, break the bank and also give all the players a bag of chips and a can of Coke®.

    * He’s a stinkin’ Loaf, and he’s Grabsy, but his skillful l’il S/O spinner last night is the way it should be done and not that rulebook-bendin’, goalie-interferin’ display recently put on by Steve “Slip Slidin’ Away” Stamkos.

  136. davelecave says:

    Who, may I ask, is “Newsy”?

  137. 24 Cups says:

    Don’t be surprised if Subban is our best Dman by the Ides of March.

    The three-star selection is now just another version of the ads on the ice.  I say that Bell should give out a free smartphone to each winner.  By the end of the year, Price and Pleks will be able to open up thier own kiosk.

  138. Omit says:

    From the ridiculous(Observer) to the sublime(JD).

  139. observer says:

    Lucky Habs got this much out of player with a damaged ACL who Gainey blindly traded for.

  140. Omit says:

    Ah Tony,

    My laughter for the day never feels complete without one of your asinine posts.  Thank you.

  141. shiram says:

    Really love that Gorges wants to stay on the team, and it seems reciprocal.

  142. likehoy says:

    I completely agree that Josh Gorges is overrated and a hero in our hearts, but he’s still tough as nails and has a never-say-die attitude that the team will miss.

    – Gomez is holding down the suck button

  143. DearyLeary says:

    By tough as nails I don’t mean strong.  I mean the guy takes a lot of punishment and he never backed down from a challenge, even if he was going to lose.  He’s a workhorse, that, in of itself, is a form of toughness.

  144. Greg says:

    Gorges is nowhere near overrated. And he’s easily the toughest guy on the team. Remember when he got hit in the head with a Mike Green slap shot and didn’t miss a game? Remember when he got rammed into the glass so hard he couldn’t stand up and didn’t miss a game?  Remember when “Gorges and Gill” were the shutdown pair of the playoffs last year? Reigning in Crosby, Ovechkin, Malkin, Semin and Backstrom?

    Gorges is not Bobby Orr, he’s not even Andre Markov, but he wins more battles than he loses and is DEFINITELY an “above average” defenceman.  The only reason there’s a love-in is because of his grit and toughness. It’s definitely not his shot or stickwork.


    “I lined up next to him at a faceoff, looked over and said “Hi Rocket”. All he did was growl.”

    -Gordie Howe

  145. 24 Cups says:

    I stated he has many good attributes. 

    But how do you feel about my main point? I think he loses more battles than most people realize. 

    I’m not sure if it’s a strength issue or a toughness measurement.  I know this sounds crazy but he also doesn’t look like he’s 6’1″ tall.  Of course, that may have something to do with being out on the ice with Gill.




  146. Norcal Habsfan says:

    Assuming the MD’s made the right call in allowing him to play, the guy’s a beast. Helmet shattering slapshot to the head, playing through knee pain, and getting driven into the boards by bigger guys for the past 7 years; for whatever it’s worth ,as a fan I say “thank you Josh.”

  147. shiram says:

    James Wisniewski

  148. rocketsglare says:

    I thought he was the Wiz?

    Go Habs Go!

  149. 24 Cups says:

    JD plays by his own rules.  He’s kind of like the box of chocolates in Forrest Gump.

  150. NoTinFoilCups says:

    JD’s a she didn’t ya know.

  151. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    J.T. is a girl. JD is a guy. Pretty sure. I enjoy reading both of them, though. Of that much, I am certain.

  152. NoTinFoilCups says:

    My bad. And yes I enjoy them both as well. Must be the similar writing styles have me mixing them up!

  153. Habscat says:

    Tough loss to the blueline. I have been thinking about possible moves that I would love to see. I want a big Dman who hits, and blocks shots. Obviously we need a power forward. So here is what I would like to see.

    1. Sign Brendan Witt. Isles bought him out. Would be a great partner for Webber/Subban. Would also give us toughness. Dont know where he is playing this year. I would like a BETTER/younger version, but if its not available we could get Witt on the CHEAP.

    2. Trade for Penner & Peckham from the Oilers. Kills 2 birds with one stone. I dont know if we would have the assets to pull this off, but I would love it if we could.

    3. Low-end/High-end/Dream names – Jovanovski, Commodore, Arnott, Regher, Iginla, Bouwmeester, Umberger, Clarkson, Bieksa




  154. mike g says:

    Penner, Jovo, Regher and Umberger are the only ones worth it…

    The rest either have terrible/long contracts, or just won’t be traded (Iginla).

    But, it’s so hard to make trades. CLB won’t give away Umberger, they know he’s a very useful player and good in the room. And Regher is a solid top 2 d-man on any team, who isn’t grossly overpaid. And Penner would add tons of muscle to a small team like ours, so EDM would want alot.

    Jovo might be the easiest to get….But I think he has a NTC, and not sure if MTL suits him. He seems like a laidback, desert kinda guy.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  155. HabFanSince72 says:

    He’s good isn’t he?


  156. Omit says:


    He’s as good as it gets. There are a few who almost challenge him, but Tony is definitely number 1.

  157. HardHabits says:

    Tony brings out the best in all the rest of the idiot-savants here too so the bar is forever being raised, or lowered, however you wish to look at it.

  158. Don Carnage says:

    I would love a picture of Carey doing that pose he did after the win !!   I thought that was great , good on him why can goal scorers do whatever they want after a goal and not a goalie after a performence like that !!


    GO HABS GO !!

  159. rocketsglare says:

    Love the pose. You can tell that Carey was pumped after stoning some of the best scorers on that team and

    won 2 huge points for his club. Props to him.

    Go Habs Go!

  160. observer says:

    Like he just had won a boxing world championship match.

  161. HabFanSince72 says:

    Here’s a trade suggestion:

    Michael Cammalleri to the Pens for Alex Goligosky.

    Why it makes sense for the Pens:

    Crosby wants a scoring winger to play with him. Cammi on his wing would just be devastating. They can afford to trade Goligosky because they have Martin, Michalek, Letang and Orpik ahead of him.

    Why it makes sense for the Habs:

    Goligosky is cheap ($1.8M), signed for 2 years and only a RFA in 2012. CHeck out his numbers. 23 points, 21 plus minus (third best in the league). So he brings us attacking defence, defensive defence, and cap space.



  162. DearyLeary says:

    You want to take out one of our best goal scorers (despite the slump) on a team that has trouble scoring goals as it is?  Put the bong down, mon esti.

  163. Bugs says:


    Disregarding the fact that Cammy is one of the FACES of our 2009 reconstruction and that we would lose much face trading him the next season, Cammy’s game-winning contributions are much more significant than Goligosky’s.

    So much so, that having Cammy to Sid’s side would not only be akin to feeding a tiger meat, but considering we play Pitt again twice this season excluding a potential playoff meeting, that trade would surely be to our detriment before it would to theirs.

    I appreciate your initiative, Sincey, but must reject your proposal as a two-pronged suicide move.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  164. avatar_58 says:

    NO – that is all

  165. mike g says:

    As much as I bash him, I don’t like the deal….

    Cammy’s having a bad year. It happens, it’s an ugly way to follow up his postseason golden stick showing, but still. He’s a 30 goal scorer in this league, and plays on a team who has trouble scoring goals.

    And Goligoski’s name has been thrown around everywhere on the net, and it’s obvious why; he’s not having a good year. 23 points doesn’t mean he’s having a good year, it looks good in the stats, but doesn’t tell the truth. All Pens fans want him gone because he’s soft and lazy. And he is. I follow him because he’s in one of my pools. He had a monster start to the year, then had like 5 points in 20 games, and scored 4 pts vs Tampa the other night. He’s very inconsistent, and people who follow that team closely know it. Not saying he’s not good, but he’s not what he looks like. It also helps he plays on a team that can score 5 goals per night, so his stats will reflect that too…

    Anyways, wouldn’t say no to him, but not for Cammy. Tell me AK and a mid-round pick, and I say go-go-Goligoski…


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  166. GhostRider says:

    Oh i’m sure he’s just kidding around.  It had to be sarcasm.  Why else would we trade one of the best pure scorers our team has had in years for a third liner putting up good points by virtue of being on the Pens?

    I tip my hat to you sir.  Well played.  Har dee har har.

  167. mrhabby says:


  168. mrhabby says:

    Come on man…never happen.

  169. LA Loyalist says:

    I’m very happy to read a post where the expression “soft and lazy” is not applied to one of OUR guys.

  170. Malreg says:

    As much as Montreal would never make that trade, Pittsburgh has enough cap trouble as it is, so they wouldn’t be able to take on that kind of salary without sending the same amount back.

  171. LA Loyalist says:

    Lots of us like Penner for Habs, for obvious reasons – why would Edmonton give him up? I don’t follow them much. Is it feasible or are we dreaming? Big wingers with hands don’t grow on trees.

  172. SLONCOLD says:

    i always saw AK as a good fit for the pens and crosby.

  173. rocketsglare says:

    In light of Gorges loss for the year, does management go with the present D or make a trade?

    I say let P.K. and Weber develop and use Picard as your relief. What do you guys think?

    Go Habs Go!

  174. Bugs says:

    “Best pure scorer in years”? Whoa now. Potentially maybe, but Gio had more than him last year and has more than him THIS year.

    Oh, and the Artiste popped 37 few years back, soooo…”ONE of the best”, shall we say?

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  175. Hobie Hansen says:

    The one thing about Penner is that he doesn’t really mix it up. You don’t have to fight to be an effective power forward but he doesn’t really deliver hits either. His big body can take some abuse and he occasionally coasts into the dirty areas but he definitely isn’t an “in your face” big and nasty power forward…

  176. mrhabby says:

     like AK?

  177. HabFanSince72 says:

    OK they can throw in Maxime Talbot.


  178. mike g says:

    I see what you mean….

    But Pascal Dupuis has become a 1st line winger playing alongside Crosby. So AK SHOULD be fine.

    IMO, Sid will make anyone look good….

    And I’d guess that every team trying to trade with them tries to use that as a selling technique, lol..



    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  179. HabFanSince72 says:

    Third best +/- in the league.

    He’s young too. Still learning.


  180. Hobie Hansen says:

    I think AK probably hits more than Penner if you can believe it!

  181. adamkennelly says:

    lets be honest – with all the injuries we have on D – this team needs to find a D man who can fill in and/or address our concerns at F to enable us to win as many games as we would have won before, theoretically..chances are we are going to let in more goals therefore, will need to score more goals to win games…plus really need to address physicality and size up front


    Propsect and/or picks to Van for Salo or Bieksa


    AK package to Columbus for Umberger and Boll or ATL for Anthony Stewart and Ben Eager

  182. Sportfan says:

    Would you people stop saying lets trade Cammy hes one of our best guys trading him would be so stupid !

  183. HabFanSince72 says:

    Of course Cammi is better than Goligosky. You’re thinking in a pre-cap mindset.

    Also, I’m not making this trade for this year. I’m making it for next year. And the year after.

    And if we help the Pens win the cup this year:

    1. we’ll be in Bettman’s good books

    2. we’re hurting Philly and Boston’s chances

  184. Bugs says:

    Well, hold on; depends who you trade’m for.

    If you trade’m for Ovechkin, is it stupid?

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  185. The Cat says:

    I would prefer a big centreman, I think the wingers on the habs are doomed to poor numbers until theres a legit number one centreman in MTL.


    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  186. The Cat says:

    Montreal would be nuts to not make that trade.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  187. rocketsglare says:

    Hopefully the team’s D and goaltending can carry this club while the team finds it’s scoring touch.

    Go Habs Go!

  188. mike g says:

    Weber hasn’t impressed me one bit….

    But, to his defense, he’s been put in a difficult situation.

    He’s a rookie defenseman, which is always a tough spot to be in and develop. But to add to that, top d-men are missing from our lineup, which just puts even more pressure on everyone else. Add that to the fact that he’s playing in MTL, and has PP duties, and it’s gonna be hard to succeed.

    But, why he hasn’t impressed me is because he seems to make dumb mistakes at terrible moments. And it’s often when he has minimal pressure. He seems to rush easy plays, he makes a bunch of turnovers in our zone, and isn’t the best 1 on 1 defenseman due to his average speed and small size.

    So while he needs time to develop to become the maximum he can become, you also have to look at the teams needs. And what they need right now are wins and points to get them into a playoff spot. So JM has to try to coach to win games, without his top defensive d-men, and at the same time make sure the kids have a good environment and fair time to develop.

    There’s a fine line between those 2, and not all coaches and/or players will succeed in finding that even-ground.

    Time will tell, but I think the wins are more important right now, so he wont develop as fast as he should.

    Next year might be a better year for him…


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  189. Hobie Hansen says:

    Penner: 34 hits  AK: 74 hits, Penner might be large but he ain’t a power forward…I think the fans would get on him for floating around out there in Montreal.

  190. Bugs says:

    We don’t ask “what will you do for us in the future?” in Mtl, Sincey; we ask “what have you done for me lately?”. You know this. Case in point: I WANTED V4’s 100mil contract. But when Cooke broke his wrist/shoulder/whatever and FINISHED him, I didn’t want him anymore. So no matter how super-fantastic Goligosky is, he hasn’t helped us YET, and could get his neck broken by Cooke tomorrow (in practice, I assume).

    This year, next, and one after, I doubt Cammy’s level of play will diminish to the point that we regret not trading for Goligosky NOW, I mean, c’mon.

    Furthermore, I don’t see how your points 1. and 2. actually…HELP us in any way, buuuut am tempted to think you just puttin me on.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  191. Habscat says:

    I dont think that ATL is sending Anthony Stewart anywhere, especailly for a package of players surrounding AK. I would love to get those 2, but we would have to give them quite the haul. They are tuning up for a playoff run and will need those guys. Stewart is still a youngster and really coming into his own.


    As for the Columbus duo, that maybe a little easier to pull off. However, AK might have to be an add-on to something bigger. Umberger is a very respected guy in that yong locker-room from what I hear on their telecasts.


    Salo is interesting, but he NEVER stays healthy. Bieksa has had a rough ride of late as well with the injuries.

    Andy Sutton is another guy that I forgot about in my earlier post. Big, hits, blocks shots



  192. Propwash says:

    How bout Crosby for Cammi? 😉 one can dream in technicolour can’t he?

  193. mike g says:

    +/- is good…

    But look once again at the team he plays for. They score alot more goals than they allow, and if I’m not mistaken didn’t they win 12 games in a row at one point? And they’ve lost like 5 games in their last 21.

    So when you go on a streak like that, your +/- is gonna sky rocket, especially when you play alot of minutes like he does.

    Being young is good, and I do think he will get better, skill wise. However, the effort level factor can’t be taught or learned. And many GM’s are aware of that, and staying away from lazy players who don’t earn their contracts. Especially with the CBA and the complicated cap-hits/buyouts, those guys can kinda linger around on your roster just because of their contract.

    I know he doesn’t make a ton of money, but you’d acquire him to adress certain responsabilities.

    And I’m not sure he’s the type of guy to fit ours. And I really hope PG knows this and doesn’t make a trade just to make one.

    IMO Regher is that guy, but we can all dream, right?


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  194. F Bomb says:

    I’m hoping the team can continue to perform with all of these injuries!  Aside from the latest slide we have been leading the conference which is something I was not expecting.  It has been extremely reassuring seeing Price play the way he has considering everything that was going on in training camp.  Watching the win yesterday I get the feeling that he wants to take the team under his wing and be a leader. 

    First time post and long time reader.

    F Bomb

  195. mike g says:


    Some say if you support Ovechkin, you support Communism….

    But, if that trade would actually happen, I’d be this sites 1st Commie…


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  196. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    Cammy for Ovechkin? Yeah, but only if PG immediately follows with Moen and Boyd for Crosby and Malkin. Then Malkin and Ovie could be bff with AK, and everyone would score lots and lots of goals.


    If PG doesn’t do that by noon tomorrow, it’s Martin’s fault for not wanting offence.

  197. HabFanSince72 says:

    So no matter how super-fantastic Goligosky is, he hasn’t helped us YET,

    That’s an argument against ever making a trade, except for your ex-players I guess.

    I don’t see how your points 1. and 2. actually…HELP us in any way

    Imagine if the Bruins win the Stanley Cup. How much that would suck. Or Philly. Imagine Bobby Clarke on the ice celebrating with Pronger and Richards and Carcillo.

  198. mike g says:

    And then our salary cap would explode, lol…

    But, if a southern team like FLA or PHX would wanna do it, I’m sure Bettman would let it happen even if their cap was over by 12 mill$…

    Gotta support the southern teams, you know?

    We already fill up our seats, even when Darche is on our 1st line.

    LMAO…If Darche was on a 1st line in PHX I think Bettman would resign, hide in a corner and cry…


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  199. 24 Cups says:

    Looks like another veteran is going to the minors even though he has two years left on his hefty contract (3.7M).  Mike Commodore cleared waivers today and is probably going to the AHL.  Columbus really overpaid after Commodore had the great playoff year.  He’s only 30, but who’s going to take him at that coin?

    You have to wonder if GMs will tighten their belts even though there’s an anticipated cap of 62M for next year.  I somehow doubt it.

  200. HabFanSince72 says:

    So he plays a lot of minutes, during which his team is more likely to score than be scored on … And what about that stat is unfairly flattering?

    Regehr (note the spelling) would be good too. He’s Brazilian – did you know that? Only Brazilian who can’t score.

  201. Sportfan says:

    What i mean is for someone who has no worth like i dunno Penner or some old dude whole last a season with us. If we got ovie that would be awesome but im talking about the moronic trade for no one with better or same value as cammy and also to add to the penner if we got him great but not for cammy or gio or plek

  202. andrewberkshire says:

    The biggest problem with NHL general managers is that most of them are hockey people, not business people. I have very limited experience managing anything and yet I’m constantly shocked by the stupid decisions made by NHL general managers as far as business management goes, and by the league in general as well.

  203. Danno says:

    Listening to Josh Gorges you can tell this is a really tough decision for a guy who loves the game and his team. I really hope everything goes well and wish him a full recovery.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  204. SmartDog says:

    Oh man don’t TEMPT ME!!!!!

    Gomez in the AHL… that would be AWWWWWWEEESSSOOOMMMEEEE!!!!!!!!!!  


  205. light_n_tasty says:

    I thought Wisniewski was the guy PG got to fill in…

  206. Sportfan says:

    ROFL Darche on the first line in Pheonix nice kets get Shane doan ? OR someone of that caliber haha

  207. Sportfan says:

    I like the Bieksa idea he even said on OTR a long time ago he’d like to play here but no way in hell would i take Salo hes always getting hurt we dont need more injury prone guys

  208. adamkennelly says:

    not really – Wiz addressed our lack of a PP shot – hardly going to help defensively.  Need someone to fill in for Markov and Gorges..Wiz was posed to help us not have to dress Picard.

  209. Bugs says:

    Dollars to doughnuts Jackets lets him go half price to the Rangers.

    Who wants in on this action?

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  210. F Bomb says:

    Is there any market for Andrei K?  What would a package of Andrei K and a second round pick get us?  Is that enough to get Penner?  Erik Cole? Kris Versteeg?

  211. Bugs says:

    Deck yourself out in knockoff denims and Swatch watches, yeah? Listen to a bootleg White Album over’n’over?

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  212. shiram says:

    There is actual video evidence of Ovechkin doing spy duty for the Russian!

  213. adamkennelly says:

    you are definitely right…I need to get more in line with reality but man either of those duos would really help our sqaud up front…..need some size (think that would have come in handy during the 8 minutes of 5 on 3 yesterday) and some toughness to counter opponents physicality and become harder to play against….


    I like Sutton but must have lost something- had a good year last year and now can’t crack the Ducks line up.


  214. HabFanSince72 says:

    Cole’s washed up. Only scores against us.

    Versteeg? Why not keep AK? In any case Burke would never want AK.


  215. mbplekfan says:

    In a way this injury to Gorges may be a blessing in disguise.

    The pressure to make the playoffs and win a round is likely off. One injury to Markov and the team could still be expected to perform. But losing another veteran defenceman is too much.

    The guys on TSN last night now think that making the playoffs is a longshot at best.

    There is no magic trade that can turn this around. This year is now about development. Winning will still be important but it wont be the only thing.

    We could see the change in philosophy last night. DD got more icetime and was put out in more situations than would normally be the case. Getting an accurate read on this guys abitlities is now more important than it was a few days ago.

    We have a log jam at center and I dont figure he has a future with this team but if he can play at the NHL level he becomes a tradeable asset. I feel the same way about Weber. He has little future with this team but maybe someone will make room for him.

    Our needs are still the same as they were in October. More size and toughness up front and a few defencemen that arent rapidly declining veterans. Maybe now we have the time to develop  the former and can address the latter in the summer.

  216. Bugs says:

    Probably’d also have to throw in a young D to get Penner.

    Surely good enough for Cole.

    Burke would ask us for Subban and three 1st rounders, so what’s the point?

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  217. HabFanSince72 says:

    You want to talk trades? How about:

    Jaro Halak, Ryan O’Byrne, Sergei Kostitsyn, Mikhail Grabovski, Matt D’Agostini, and Mike Ribeiro for Lars Eller and Michel Bournival?

    Crazy trade? Insane?

    Hey, we essentially made that trade already.

  218. Castor says:

    I would agree with you if Georges were playing even close to potential this year. He’s been off all year and we’re still one point out of first place. I wouldn’t give it up yet.

  219. Bugs says:

    This year is NOT about “development”; it’s about winning. As it is every year. If any “development” is to occur, it shall be AS we are winning.

    So no, Gorges’ injury is NOT a “blessing in disguise”, I’m afraid. I want to add “in my opinion” so as not to upset, but it isn’t in my opinion, it’s in the organization’s opinion. As it has always been. And as it will always be.

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  220. keepthefaith says:

    This site is the best. Lets trade Cammy for Gologoski ? ahahhaha too funny. You guys crack me up everyday. Thanks for the laughs.

  221. NoTinFoilCups says:

    Not exactly the core of a Stanley Cup contender.

  222. F Bomb says:

    I really like your points on no trade to turn it, DD with more ice time and issues with C. 


    Why does Weber have no future with the Habs?  I can understand DD but Weber was our draft pick and has been in our Hamilton system.  He has played in WJ tourneys and has now made the Habs team. 

    Starting 2012 they have a signed D of:

    Spacek – PK – Goerges (will be signed) – Weber – Markov (IR for 2 yrs now)

    There is a need for 2 more starting D men.  Why trade Weber when he has proved he can play and can put up pts on the PP when there is no replacement outside of FA? 

    They will likely look to sign Hammer but that leaves 1 full time spot and a 7th D man –  (with Markov out)

    Shea Weber would fit right in if you ask me. 

  223. andrewberkshire says:

    You’re forgetting that we also got Aaron Palushaj, Ian Schultz, Dustin Boyd, Mathieu Schneider and Robert Lang out of those trades. But I suppose it’s more fun to cherry pick eh, Captain hindsight?

  224. thorandresson says:

    Captain Hindisight to the rescue!



  225. mbplekfan says:

    Well Bugs then you have just solved the mystery as to why we are stuck in the middle of the pack all the time. It cant always be about winning.

    The Atlanta Falcons endured a couple of tough years while Michael Vick developed.

    The Chicago blackhawks let Toews, Sharp, and Byfuglien develop.

    Edmonton is playing with their youngsters and letting them develop.

    But MTL cant let Pacioretty, Eller, PK, and others develop because you need to win all the time.

  226. HardHabits says:

    The poop’s gone to your head.

  227. andrewberkshire says:

    Exactly what I was referencing!

  228. light_n_tasty says:

    But PG got Wiz the day after he found out Gorges was done.  I agree with you that we need more help, but I don’t think PG is going to make any more moves.

  229. F Bomb says:

    Halak – The team flipped a coin – could have have gotten more, probably, which means there is a connection with St Louis

    O’Byrne – pretty sure he was sick of being pulled in and out (ya ya scored on his own net) but was 6’4 and dropped the gloves.

    Sergei – no comment

    Makhail Grabo – tough call – for sure he wanted second line minutes.  He’s got them, on a bottle five team.

    Matt D’Agostini – played well for them and then got hurt.  Was replaced with Patches.

    Ribeiro – yip that one sucks –

    Lars Eller – everyone wants a C over 6 feet with hands.  We got one but will take time and needs to develop

    Bournival – another small C again, team lost faith in Obyrne

    Habs are amazing this is better than reality TV


  230. mbplekfan says:

    I feel that Weber has no future with our club due to his obvious limitations. He just isnt big enough or strong enough to play for this team.

    Our defence is badly undersized at the best of times. Markov, Spacek, Wiznewski, and PK are just barely 6 ft. Picard plays like he’s small and Gill lacks the mobility to be a physical presence. Gorges is barely 200 lbs and takes more hits than he dishes out. Hammer is the only one who can stand up to players like Malkin and Ovechkin.

    We need a bigger more physical player not another soft puck mover. I foresee a dramatically different defence corps in the next few years. Markov and PK are the puck movers and they need to be surrounded by big, tough stay at home guys.

  231. bwoar says:

    Greg Pateryn is a pretty interesting D prospect we got back for Grabovski.

  232. bwoar says:

    Damn straight.

  233. mbplekfan says:

    The OB trade is the real stink bomb. We gave up a 6’6 defenceman who can play in the NHL for a smallish junior player who might never make the next level. That one was inexcusable.

  234. Everlasting1 says:

    Gorges is a class act with good D instinct, but they do need another d-man with a booming shot and can rack up some points.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  235. bwoar says:

    Weber is the 2nd best young D in our system.  At 22 he’s much younger than Streit when he joined the Habs, and they play the same game.  Yet he’s got no future with us?

    Gill, Hamrlik and Spacek have no future with us.  There’s no guarentee Big Wizz signs here in the summer.  Threre’s no guarentee that either Markov or Gorges will make sufficient recoveries back to their old selves.  Decent chances, but no sure things.

    And you’re already tossing Weber over the side?

  236. thorandresson says:

    Gotta love how people are obsessed with a player’s size, just cause you’re big doesn’t mean you’re good or tough or anything.

  237. mbplekfan says:

    Streit was a power play specialist and 4th line winger. Not exactly a key ingredient of a Stanley Cup contender.

    The fact that Weber is our second best defence prospect does not mean he’s an NHL calibre player. It speaks more to our lack of depth in the system.

    Emelin would fit in remarkably well and if his upward trajectory continues Brendan Nash will soon overtake Weber on the depth chart. Watch his defensive play against the bigger forwards and then convince yourself that he’s competing.

    On Pittsburgh’s only goal last night Weber failed to contain his winger off the faceoff. He just let him go by.

  238. jimmy shaker says:

    Shoot, ACL missing for 7 years, that ain’t nothin!!!!


  239. LA Loyalist says:

    We had some bad luck, too. Robert Lang was our leading scorer when he went down. Schneider was certainly value for money and I guess the jury is out on AP, IS, DB…

    However it would be nice to still have O’Byrne.

  240. GrimJim says:

    Yeah, Tony242 has been missing a brain for years…

  241. mbplekfan says:

    No but Byfuglien is terrifying because of his size. Ovechkin and Malkin are better players because they are so big.


  242. LA Loyalist says:

    Pk is tough as your ex-girlfriend. And I would not like to lose Weber. It’s a question of balance, if we have a couple of big mean D then it’s fine to have some skill guys. And look how we tumbled to earth like Icarus without a QB for our powerplay – we need DEPTH at that spot in particular. 

    We had Streit behind Souray and hardly missed a beat, but when we stupidly let Streit go, and then Markov goes down, our PP is in the flusher and damn good on PG to pull Wiz out of his hat and buy us time to develop PK and Weber. Depth, balance.

    I am ALWAYS ranting that we need size and toughness, but when a small guy has skill you put tough guys around him, because you can’t teach talent. Our last 100 pt guy was Mats Naslund. A small guy. The problem arises when you have ALL smurfs with questionable talent – not to mention any names but Chr*st I wish New Jersey would take G&G back to the swamp.

    Not to lift that rock, my point is balance!

  243. SeriousFan09 says:

    We acquired a player who’s the captain of his junior team, more or less keeping pace with Louis Leblanc’s Q scoring while he almost made the WJC squad as an 18-year old and the only reason he didn’t was because Casey Cizikas played for the HC of Team Canada and Bournival did not. Bournival was the 14th forward at that camp and Cizikas was injured.

    OB for whatever reason, couldn’t find his consistency in MTL. MTL picked up an asset in return.



    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  244. bwoar says:

    I can cherry-pick plays that would make any defender in the NHL look bad.  How about Gonchar in Game 7?  Does it mean he’s garbage too?

    Our PP went south the day Streit left.  Do you think a successful PP would help a team contend for the Stanley Cup?

    Or is it all about height and weight? 

  245. Say Ash says:

    Three times that year our leading scorer went down.

  246. LA Loyalist says:

    Well it’s the “organizations opinions” that have dug this hole, Sir, with all due respect. We were too small and too soft WITH Markov and Gorges.

    No one wishes them anything but wonderful recoveries, but what we do for the rest of the year is critical. If we panic and rent a few vets for the rest of the year wouldn’t that limit ice time for guys we need to develop? 

    Of course it’s nice to win, but I would rather win a cup in 3 years with PK, Weber Tinardi, LeBlanc, Price and some other young studs than choke out a couple of playoff wins at the price of our utes now. Molson sell plenty of beer as it is.

    What is really to blame is the lack of depth in our organization, which BG and PG have started to repair, but it will take more time. 

  247. adam76 says:

    Lars Eller is a top six forward (in the AHL).

  248. punkster says:

    Post of the month…so far!


  249. LA Loyalist says:

    But we don’t win all the time, so Bugs’ argument is specious.

    We won last year because Halak and Cam-Cam got hot, mainly, though the other guys played well, too. This year we are back down to earth — too small, too soft, too intangible.

    Certainly we have half a dozen players we can win big with, but 2 of them are down for the year, and even if they weren’t we’re still 2 power fwds and 2 good Dmen and a decent backup goalie away from being an elite team.

    That, amigo-sans is the cold harsh reality and even with Carey Price playing well 1. he can’t play lights-out every night and 2. we have to score a few goals….

  250. LA Loyalist says:

    Why did Streit not get more credit? Were we just spoiled and used to having a great PP with he and Souray?

  251. zak says:

    How long will it be before JM breaks up the Desharnais line?

  252. WestHab says:

    Aside from Halak I don’t see the pain.

    – Who will be at the Heritage Classic?

  253. daveb32 says:

    CKAC has us targetting Zajac.

  254. WestHab says:

    only inexcuasable after knowing Georges would be out all season.

    – Who will be at the Heritage Classic?

  255. WestHab says:

    next loss, no sooner

    – Who will be at the Heritage Classic?

  256. WestHab says:

    Is”us” the Habs or CKAC?

    – Who will be at the Heritage Classic?

  257. WestHab says:

    That and the effect of chassing tail pipes.

    – Who will be at the Heritage Classic?

  258. WestHab says:

    …and the chickens laid no milk, the cows gave no eggs.  We had to walk 8 miles to school in the snow, barefoot.

    – Who will be at the Heritage Classic?

  259. daveb32 says:

    Let me rephrase: CKAC say Habs targetting Zajac.

  260. zak says:

    Maybe CKAC wishes we were after Zajac. Who would we move?

  261. mike g says:

    Ckac and their rumors are about as reliable as a General Motors car with only 2 tires….

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  262. rocketsglare says:

    True, but it’s not to say that the team does not need a bigger and stronger physical presence along the boards and

    in front of the net.

    Go Habs Go!


  263. skoalbandit says:

    Anyone been paying attention to SK74? He’s on fire with 19 pts in last 17 games. Also has 10g.

    He needed to be traded, but we all knew he had it in him.

  264. saskhabfan says:

    lars eller as a 20 year old in first ahl season  70 gp 18 g 39 a 57pts on a bad peoria team(led his team in scoring)

    tomas plekanec as a 20 year old in his first ahl season 77 gp 19 g 27 a 46 pts on a stacked hamilton team.

    Guess pleky is a top 6 ahl forward also.


    I shouldn’t expect any less from a 34 year old drunken moron like yourself who brags about “choking” a 16 year old girl. Pedo much?






    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  265. otter649 says:

    Those so-called experts at TSN for the last few years always call The Habs out of the playoffs with the best year being when The Habs won The Eastern Conference but The Habs make the playoffs with the only time they missed the playoffs recently was due to that terrible flu that went through the team but coulda/shoulda made the playoffs that year if Montreal would have started Halak instead of Huet (coming off an injury) in that infamous game in Toronto on the last game of the season where JS Aubin was the winning  goalie……….

  266. VancouverHab says:

    Good point, indeed. How about the other side? Of the two extreme GM alternatives, would you prefer a hockey man with no real business knowledge or a business man with no real hockey knowledge?

    (I’d prefer another Sam Pollock ;–)

  267. mike g says:

    Yup, i even watched their game last night vs LA. Looks good, largely because he fits their style and system. Although i wouldnt expect that pace to continue, its nice to see such a unique player fit somewhere and finally mature..

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  268. otter649 says:

    Also playing for a contract like his big brother…….

  269. mbplekfan says:

    The guy had oodles of talent and it was just a matter of his head catching up.

    Martin couldnt work with him and thats all that needs to be said.

  270. HabFanSince72 says:

    You think Mike Milbury and Glen Sather’s problems are a lack of an MBA?



  271. HabFanSince72 says:

    If Lappy does as well in Anaheim as SK and O’Byrne, then surely JM has to get the boot.


  272. zak says:

    No one can work with Martin.

  273. OneTimer says:

    Good post Bugs! No way Gorges’s injury is a blessing in disguise…

  274. OneTimer says:

    A winning record after 1 1/2 years seems to work well with Martin.

  275. habs001 says:

    we need one of ourforwards to get hot like grabowski who has 11 goals in 13 games

  276. OneTimer says:

    Seeing as how every one of our games is a 1-goal game, that would probably take us over the top into a good standing again…fingers crossed

  277. observer says:

    same was happening with all teams gainey had here as gm or coach – ribeiro, beauchemin, robidas, ryder, even samsonov – when they leave the other coach moves up on this system or the player free of gainey improves drastically. plus dagostini now too.


    said this for years!

  278. observer says:

    they got a career minor leaguer for lapierre – how dumb is that?

  279. habs001 says:

    florida gave up 2 goal lead vs carolina now 2-2….leafs 4-1 vs atlanta …leafs for some reason scores tons of goals vs the thrashers

  280. observer says:

    they had alreadylost markov. martin and probably gauthier never liked obyrne.

  281. habs001 says:

    now 12 goals in 13

  282. observer says:

    because leafs have a smart gm.

  283. observer says:

    easy, just trade him to any other team – he’ll become a goal-scoring machine away from martin.

  284. SmartDog says:




  285. SmartDog says:

    Lats had to be traded.

    Grabovski had to be traded.

    SK74 had to be traded.

    We’d trade freakin’ MaxPac AND Weber to have one guy with the stats of one of these. Anyone would be a top scorer on our team based on ppg.  I’ve been saying this for a long time. Somethings just WRONG and we’re paying for it over and over. 

    I’m honestly stunned we’re not a bottom feeder with how well our cast-offs do.  Imagine if we had these guys putting up those numbers in Montreal.  JM cannot get the best out of players.  He just can’t.   No cup, no proof.


  286. JF says:

    Leafs leading Atlanta unbelievably 8-1.  They scored 3 powerplay goals in the first 3 minutes of a 5 minute major.  They still have two minutes of it to start the third period.

  287. habs001 says:

    dont worry we will score 8 goals …in about 5 games….sat vs bruins very good chance final score 2-1 in o/t…

  288. SeriousFan09 says:

    I think you mean smart undercover operative posing as the GM that’s actually working for the Boston Bruins.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  289. saskhabfan says:

    As proven by their impeccable playoff record during the 3 years of burke’s “reign of error”.





    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  290. SeriousFan09 says:

    Lats: Fat and lazy under Carbo, fat and lazy under JM and lo and behold… fat and lazy leading to an avoidable injury if he kept in shape for MIN.

    Grabs well, whatdya know, earning his keep for a month, how about we wait  two more months and see if he’s still got a beating heart? SK, same thing, let’s see if he’s got anything when the playoffs roll around or when he’s got a new contract.

    Forget the cast-offs, the reason the Habs are where they are is because the 2003 draft was blown. Not some attitude cases who have yet to prove they’re worth a damn when it matters.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  291. showey47 says:

    Watching the canes/cats game. Do you know you can get tickets for 9 games in january for as low as $9 with free parking? And if you don’t have a good time they will give you your money back? Unreal.

  292. showey47 says:

    Uphill both ways.

  293. dallyd31 says:

    It’s hard to tell on the internet, but surely this is a joke.

  294. skoalbandit says:

    we just seem to be to impatient with our young players.

  295. RiverviewCanadien says:

    This past summer, I was excited about this team. A full season for the new crew was in the books, and fans were really going to see what they could do. Then Markov was done for the season, and now Gorges is out.

    Defense was always the question mark. It was last year and look how Hamrlik and Spacek responded, oh and have been doing it again this year. People wanted Hamrlik to take a day off, well he took one and people panic. Well the team won, and they will again without those guys.

    Every team in the NHL experiences an occasional time of…”shit-hockey”. Then the fans voice their opinions. Sometimes there are legit musings, but when a slump occurs, things tend to get a little silly. And it did around here.

    It’s a huge loss without Markov and Gorges, but this group of players assembled can get the job done. Read this Eric Engels article, well worth it (sorry if this has already been posted).

    As an afterthought, cheer up everyone, the season is only half done, they are in playoffs, their big slump is over, they will still take the division, and once playoffs begin…

    Who knows.


  296. Da Hema says:

    Start planning the parade….


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  297. habs001 says:

    offense has been the question mark….we are now 26th in goal scoring…has there ever been a team that won their division with this type of scoring…if it continues not only we will not win the division we will not even make the playoffs…the leafs forwards who are not that good have now 3 forwards with more goals than our top forward and another tied with gions 14 goals…

  298. skoalbandit says:

    spacek for commador?

  299. showey47 says:

    I can’t see why the devils would move zajac. He is their only legit top 6 center right now and only 25. That would mean us having to give another center in return. It won’t be pleky since he left money on the table to take a 6 year deal. Unless they accept a package of youth and picks including eller. IMO the devils trading zajac doesn’t make much sense.

  300. thehabsfan29 says:

    anyone know anything  about the canadians metro fan practice (what exactly it is)? i have a feeling i won tickets to it and was wondering what it is lol.


    any info would be appreciated.

  301. Da Hema says:

    Given his contract, I’m willing to venture Columbus would take far less than that. At any rate, what good could come from removing another defenceman from the team? The Habs are on the verge of having to play Desharnais on defence the way things are going….


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  302. showey47 says:

    Its 9-1 now,actually its a good thing since it keeps the thrashers from gaining any points. I wonder if cherry is going to to on any “running up the score” rants like he does when the leafs get smoked like that? Somthing tells me he won’t.

  303. SmartDog says:

    Lats is fat.  Grabs is a whiner.  SK was troubled.

    Yeah and PK is brash and cocky and a league-wide sh$t disturber of major proportions.  MaxPac was disrespectful of the Habs coach down on the radio. 

    When we get rid of these guys most people on here put them down like they’re useless.  It’s laughable how the ‘sour grapes’ song goes on here. Fact is that someone did a good job developing these guys in Hamilton but they came up to Montreal and between CArbo (BIG mistake) and JM (who loves veterans but not kids), they f-d them up.  You think it’s just coincidence that these guys do so well elsewhere?  Crazy.

  304. thehabsfan29 says:

    is tornto really beating atlanta 9-1?!!!! wow what is the world coming to… how can a team give up 9 goals to the leafs……

  305. SmartDog says:

    Please god please.  If JM gets the boot and Gomez gets (miraculously) traded or sent to the AHL I will give up smoking.

    Okay, I don’t smoke, you caught me.   I will give up booze for a year.  That’s fair isn’t it?  C’mon – make it happen!


  306. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Offense became the question mark, there is a difference. But the team has found ways to get the job done. Like they did last night.

    They will get it going that I am sure of. Plenty of hockey left in the season.

    Price let everyone know he is still the man last night with The Pose, and if he is that confident, I’m good.

  307. SmartDog says:

    Stop with the facts! You’re making all those rosy-eyed habs fans cry.


  308. habs001 says:

    and the leafs scored 5 yest…even a bad team like florida who lost to carolina today (more bad news) has more goals than we do…our scoring over the last season and a half has been a disgrace…

  309. SeriousFan09 says:

    PK is far more professional any of the three previously mentioned
    players have been to date. Has he complained about Richards and others saying he is disrespectful? Oh no. Did he make a fuss
    about being sent to Hamilton for a year? No. Didn’t complain about being
    benched. Hasn’t shown it in his play he’s dissatisfied. Pacioretty said
    the right things the wrong way when he had an interview with a partisan
    hack who doesn’t respect people’s privacy and patted himself on the
    back when he spilled Markov’s medical status in public.

    Latendresse’s new coach basically called him fat and out of shape at the start of the season in Minnesota, was this a hidden motivational technique used to urge on bright young men, or calling out a player who basically laughed in their face, took their money and didn’t keep in shape over the summer? Sergei is having a productive stretch as is Grabovski, but neither has shone much in the term of consistency. Everyone was to blame except for these guys about their lack of success in MTL, everyone but them excuse for me calling that a load of crap.



    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  310. otter649 says:

    Final score 9-3 Leafs & it appears the goal song for Atlanta is The Ole Ole Song…….

  311. habs001 says:

    we were 23rd in scoring last year..now we are 26th…when every game you play is 1-0,2-1 3-2…the odds are pretty good over the long run you will be around 500 hockey…even last night one bad bounce in the third pitts wins…..even the best team canada would not win every game vs norway if they played 20 games with each game tied with 10 minutes left…it is very rare when non scoring does not catch up to you ..like vs the flyers…

  312. skoalbandit says:

    one bad contract for another. but one can be bought out.

  313. HabFanSince72 says:

    Pavelec stoned us a week ago. Tonight he was a sieve.

    Just our luck.


  314. thehabsfan29 says:

    for some reason that always seems to happen to us

  315. habguy says:

    when’s the last time habs scored 9 goals?

    30 years ago?

    leafs have scored more goals than the habs.

    in fact they have 2 scorers with 17 goals.

    habs have NONE!!!!!!

  316. longbow says:

    Leafs always get the Finger !

  317. otter649 says:

    And what place are The Leafs in The Eastern Conference – Habs scored two goals last night & got two points in the standings while The Leafs scored nine goals & got two points in standing. Nuf Said……

  318. habguy says:

    the season isn’t over yet.

    habs will miss the playoffs, just like the leafs.

  319. SmartDog says:

    Right up the Kessel!


  320. longbow says:

    If the Habs did that PG might have some incentive to find a goal scorer !

  321. mbplekfan says:

    The habs scored one goal. It was a lucky break that Crosby wasnt playing because he scores and sets up goals at better than ppg pace.

    One mistake in a one goal game and its tied up. One mistake when you are up by three or four isnt such a big deal.

    You cant win consistently when you only score two goals per game and if JM doesnt generate some offense soon he’s going to lose the room.


  322. J_P says:

    Goalies dont just all wake up to play the habs, the habs forwards just make life easy on them.  The habs can have 45 shots, maybe 5 are actually quality scoring chances.

    Not a single scoring chance against the pens the other day on that prolonged 5 on 3 powerplay, that was just pathetic to watch.

    I dont know whats up with these guys.  On paper, they are way more offensively talented the goal totals would indicate.

  323. habsguy says:

    And the Pens were lucky we didnt have Markov, Josh and Hammer….

  324. habsguy says:

    Dude, please change your handle, people will get us confused and think its me with the stupid remarks.

  325. 24 Cups says:

    No one is going to read this now, but AP is a mid level prospect, IS is dying in Hamilton, DB has cleared waivers, MS did squat for Montreal and Robert Lang was a great pick up.  Time will tell, but the Lang trade is the only one that makes sense at this point in time.

    Just setting the record straight.

  326. habrez says:










    Other than Robidas (and sentimentally Koivu), can’t say I miss any of these guys. 

  327. wild flower says:

    Exactly, thanks for some perspective. The Habs should just have the best players past and present all on the current team.

  328. wild flower says:

    If Lappy, SK and O’byrne are sitting on their couches watching JM and the rest of the Habs in the conference finals, I doubt it.

  329. 24 Cups says:

    I loved it.  After all, isn’t this all about being entertained?

  330. Willy the bum says:

    Ah yes, the Mr. Clean pose.

  331. SeriousFan09 says:

    Peculiar Stat for the Night:

    DET’s Brian Rafalski scores his 1st goal of the season in his 30th game of the season, but he had racked up 26A until now, is that some kind of record? 26A before you have your first goal on a season?


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  332. habrez says:

    I was thinking the same thing when Ryan Whitney started the season with 24 assists before getting his first goal. Now I need to know who holds the record.

  333. mbplekfan says:

    The habs lack scoring punch. That’s strange considering the scorers and talent we have up front. Cammaleri, Gionta, AK, Pouliot, Pleks, Gomez…

    These are all players that can put the puck in the net. What they have in common now is that none of them scores much on a regular basis.

    Of course its hard to score when you are so worried about defensive assignments that you give up on the offensive zone and race back to the neutral zone as soon as a turnover occurs. This gives the other team time to organize a breakout and attack in force with speed.

    The system is broken. The players know it, they arent stupid. That might explain why Cammaleri looks unhappy.

    Carbo had the same type of system and it stifled the players back then.

    If you cant maintain offensive zone pressure because you leave the zone early then you cant generate secondary scoring chances. One winger is almost always high in the slot ready to leave at the first sign of a turnover, that’s why we rarely score the close in garbage goals.


  334. habguy says:

    Gomez has 3 goals in 40 games. yes he’s a dynamite goal scorer.

    pouliot has 8 goals, fantastic. AK has 9. put him in the hall of fame.

    wow with offence like this, who needs defence.

  335. mbplekfan says:

    You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.

  336. habsguy says:

    Please dont confuse me with habguy,  my handle has an S in it.

  337. Storm Man says:

    Wow… come back from the beach and still see some cry babies on here. HIO is like a drug you always come back for more.

    “I have never failed at anything in my life so far… TripleX 12/23/2010 16:34pm”

  338. Everlasting1 says:

    And then there are some still with their head in the sand 😉


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  339. solomio says:

    Ah will you guys stop crying about those trades please.Ribero was a baby, chicken shite, weak on the puck and a bad influence. You guys don’t remember that?

    D’Agostini did dick. Grabovski was a head case and did nothing. Lats was garbage and Laps was useless.

    Everybody who got traded deserved to be traded. They were of no use to the team what so ever and in some cases detrimental to the team.

    So give it up for fox sake.

  340. SmartDog says:

    Yeah, those grapes were sour anyway.   😛


  341. JSP1990 says:

    I agree, but it still would have been nice to get more for Ribero. That kinda sucked. As for Lats, well, if it wasn’t for Bugs I would be president of Pouliot’s fan club. I love the kid.

  342. habsguy says:

    Thank you…..


  343. habsguy says:

    Thank you…..


  344. terrygain says:

    Dags did not deserve to be traded. He was coming off a concussion.  SK became a probelm because he had too much pride to sit in Martin’s doghouse. On a team that lacks size, not playing and then trading O’Byrne was clueless. Last year’s playoff run was a Halakian miracle.  This team will continue to flounder until it gets rid of its mediocre coach.


    Did anyone notice how those Maple Leaf fans are such sheep? They support management no matter what. It’s no wonder they haven’t won in 43 years.

  345. solomio says:

    Righteous doggieman !

  346. HabFanSince72 says:

    OK then let’s look at it the other way.

    How many players were given up on by their teams, and then who  when they were traded to the Habs?


    The only one who comes close is Josh Gorges, but I don’t think the Sharks gave up on him. They just wanted Craig Rivet (???) because they thought he would help them win the cup.

    D’Agostini and Grabovsky and SK74 thrive, while Palushaj, Shawn Belle, and Dustin Boyd sink without trace.


  347. JSP1990 says:

    It’s unfair to say that about Palushaj. He’s still developing and I think he’ll be a good player for us soon. Give the kid a chance before you label him a failure. He’s been up and down in Hamilton but could still be a damn good player.

  348. Just A Guy says:

    Pouliot might still make that list, though it is slightly discouraging that mid level talet can’t succeed in montreal where they can find mediocre success elsewhere. I would also give Palushaj some time and Boyd is just one of those guys who appear to be unable to make that jump from the AHL to the NHL. Didnt the habs draft Belle as well?

  349. SmartDog says:

    Rivet – Gorges was solid for solid.


    – Ribiero – Ninnima?

    – SK74 – Boyd (fringe player, near useless)

    – Grabs – 2nd round pick

    – Dags – Palu..whatever?

    – Halak – Eller (Hamilton bound?)

    – Lats – Pouliot (the best of the lot but still inconsistant, still a big question mark)

    and my personal favorite…

    Gomez… who cares what we gave away… just getting him is a huge loss.


  350. habsguy says:

    I wouldnt mind Dags on the team,  but you can stick SK and Grabs where the sun dont shine!!!!!

  351. sidhu says:

    Grabs has more goals than anyone on the Habs. Ouch.

  352. habs365 says:

    Habs are good in all departments except offence..with a better offence..this team would blossom..no consistant scores and I mean none..Cammalleri, Gionta, Gomez, Kostitsyn, at best 2nd liners..pleks is the closest to a 1st liner on this team..until we get more 1st line players..the Habs are going nowhere.

  353. sidhu says:

    Someone send Eager some flowers and a thank you note:


    Check out Phaneuf coming in late, as if he was going to do anything.  Earlier in the game, Eager challenged Phaneuf and the latter did nothing.

  354. habsguy says:

    seems to me like everyone here forgets just how much players like SK and Grabs sucked,  Ribs was  the joke of the league the way he rolled around the ice.  I love Lats and really wish he could have made it here,  but he couldnt then and he couldnt now

  355. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Something just isn’t right.

    Look, I totally agree with you guys. Latendresse, Sergei Kostitsyn, Ribeiro, Ryan O’Byrne, Grabovski all didn’t make much of a significant impact while they were with the Habs.

    Most of them were simply a pain in the ass and we ourselves, US FANS, wanted them outta here.

    Now, I understand a change of scenery can do a lot. It can motivate a player in several ways. But the number of players that are suddenly catching fire is actually pretty freaky.

    I am not saying yank Martin, fire PG or whatsoever. 

    But you have to wonder – why are so many ex-Montreal players suddenly doing so good?

    Yes, certainly – those players don’t have a big heart like Gionta or Koivu. But isn’t it’s the coach’s job to get the most out of his players? It’s working with other teams.

    Obviously you could debate that Komisarek, Higgins and Kovalev are players that seem to have forgotten how to play ever since they left Montreal. But this is a case of young players.

    I wouldn’t say this is all Martin’s fault – because none of those players actually tore it up under Guy Carbo either. But there’s something here in Montreal – that just ain’t right. I don’t know what it is, whether it’s media, pressure from the management, Montreal’s nightlife…I just don’t know.

    But something needs to improve. Cuz’ it’s gonna end up costing us.

    Now just because I said this, that doesn’t mean I want Martin fired. When I look at our team’s GA in the standings, or the stats on special teams, I feel proud as a Hab fan. Those are good things. And I wanna give kudos to the coaching management for that. But this team simply can’t score. And this is where the case of young players come in – and how they suddenly catch fire when they are traded to another team.

    I am not saying that I want those players back on this roster – hell to the no. But a change is needed, before several other moves are made that might cost us in the future.

  356. HabsFanInVictoria says:

    Maybe people have to stop booing so they can feel comfortable playing in their own rink.  Maybe talk-radio and newspeople needs to stop calling these players out.  Maybe fans need to just leave the hockey decisions up to the ones who know what they’re doing and let the players play and learn.

  357. Everlasting1 says:

    You said it – some just thrive under different coaching and different environment. Dags and SK74 are on pace for 20 goal seasons. Grabs looks to be a bonafide 20+, like Ribeiro. The world keeps on spinnin’..


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

     Don’t pollute the water.

  358. light_n_tasty says:

    I think it’s a two-way street.  Habs management and coaching staff, at least since Gainey (I don’t remember what the culture was like before that), are not hands-on communicators.  They will scratch payers, send them to the minors, take them off the PP or PK, or cut a player’s minutes without telling them why.  I think part of that is that Gainey, Carbo, JM, and PG are old-school professionals.  They don’t see the need for the communication.  Players like Gainey, Carbo, and Muller were the kind of players that didn’t need someone to baby them along.

    On the other hand, players like Ribiero, Grabovsky, SK74, Latendresse, etc. were all quite immature when they came into the league.  The no-nonsense style of Gainey & Co. does not mesh with players like that.  They need someone to explain why they are being scratched, benched, etc. and what they need to work on.  And that’s why we get situations like we have in the past.

    That said, I don’t see any of those miscommunications happening with our current roster.  Maybe AK46.

  359. habrez says:

    Grabs has also watched his team lose more than any Habs (well except for maybe the Wiz)

  360. Everlasting1 says:

    Gomez – Koivu..that’s who.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

     Don’t pollute the water.

  361. Jonson says:

    georges for rivet, solid for solid? Rivet was one of the worst dmen i have seen on this team. Defensively he was worse than Souray. he was good for 2 things. Talking to the media, and fighting. He was tough as nails. but he was terrible on d. I hope no one argues with me on this one.

  362. terrygain says:

    Rivet for Gorges and a first round draft choice (Pacioretty) was a steal.



  363. Jonson says:

    Most of them are garbage. Sk is a great talent but a head case that we dont need. Ribiero was decent but was never going to be great here. Latrendesse….lol the guy was absolute garbage here, if anyone thinks that he is gonna be a great hockey player they are crazy. He had good numbers last year but there is no way he will do that on a consistent bases. Its easy to know this if you had watched him here. its that simple. To say he is better than pouliot is just plain stupid. Pouliot is the most talented player on this team right now. JM has been so impatient with this its not even funny. He played him on the second line this for about 5 games before he was replaced. And the funny thing was is that he was playing better than gio and gomez. You wonder why Eller, Darche, Halpern, now DD are playing so well? its cause they get the luxury of playing with a TOP line guy in Pouliot. He has 8 goals this year, thats not bad for a guy who plays 10 mins and has been replaced by Darche ( lol dont get it) on the PP. You can see how dominate this guy can be. He is so strong on the puck, has a great shot, can pass, and has tremendous hockey sense. When Cammy was playing with Moen and Gomez, i was hoping that JM would come to his senses and put cammy with eller and Pouliot. THat would have been a heck of a line. I just hope we dont give up on this guy cause he is such a good hockey player. IT sucks that he hasnt been given a normal amount of time to develope before he was expected to score 50 goals this year, without more than a full season in the NHL. Him and Eller could be very special to watch together in a few years.

  364. Say Ash says:

    “replaced by Darche ( lol dont get it)”

    Darche parks himself in front of the net

  365. zak says:

    Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t Pearn coach the d-men and Muller the special teams? If that’s the case then it must be up to JM to dictate the offensive schemes.

  366. Chuck says:


    Centre Hice: A case for Georges Vezina

  367. Everlasting1 says:

    In Montreal?? lol


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  368. Jonson says:

    Belle was drafted by Minnesota then traded for corey locke. Pouliot is awesome, just needs more mins and a bigger role. Boyd has already made the jump from the ahl to nhl he has played in the nhl for over 2 years. He hasnt even played bad in montreal, jm has his guys in place and there was no room for him. Boyd in not ahl player by any means. He is tearing it up in the ahl. He needs to be in the Nhl. I wish they had room, he could provide a lot of energy to this team and add a few goals here and there. Dags was always a good player just lost his confidence playing for this stupid coach, and for that other stupid coach we had before him. Palushaj i think is a little to small, but i hope he pans out.

  369. rocketsglare says:

    Great read by Kamal Penesar and how the Habs need to get bigger and stronger. Another great read is

    by Eric Engels and how the Habs have proven everyone wrong with their resilient play. I highly recomm-

    end reading both articles. Very illuminating and entertaining.

    Go Habs Go!

  370. Everlasting1 says:

    Care to post the links?


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  371. Everlasting1 says:

    You’ve touched on something that I’ve always had an inkling about. The old-school professionals, in particular Gainey/PG, JM..they seem like such stiffs and come across as militaristic in their attitudes/approach in dealing with players. JM strikes me as the type to order a player to drop to the ice and give him 20 for slipping up. Carbo never gave that impression. I don’t presume to know what JM or any other is like in the dressing room or team meetings, but he does come across as a tight-a$$ and lacking that interpersonal skill in dealing with what he perceives as difficult players. Perhaps he strokes them the wrong way. I dunno.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  372. christophor says:

    Was it recently suggested that Pouliot play center? 

    Bugs maybe?

    Call me crazy, but I think I like this. It never occurred to me before I read it and it got me thinking: what centerman does Pouliot remind me of?  Well, Benny’s above average in passing, skating (and falling), and hitting. But boy can he shoot that puck! He can also dangle. 

    Jeff Carter comes to mind. Not too physical but big and skilled enough to not be pushed around. And Carter can shoot. I know Benny hasn’t popped in 40, but I don’t think Carter has as big a cannon as Benny. Boy, that shot! Maybe Benny needs more of the puck. He can get that in the middle. Maybe trying to turn him into a power forward isn’t the right idea, at least not in the sense of grinding out along the boards all the time. I don’t see Carter along the boards as often as pushing up the middle and creating havoc on open ice. We don’t have anyone like that.

    I mean, we’re not talking about a Lats or Patches, who are big and of the power forward type. They haven’t the skills to go with their big bodies. Pouliot has the skills of a little man in a big man’s body. THAT IS RARE! And it’s probably hard to develop.  But it hasn’t be utilized or recognized.  It needs to be drawn out, not just turned into your everyday potential powerforward. There’s a reason Benny was drafted at 4th.

    But we’ve already got a log-jam up the middle (sounds dirty). But none so big and handsome and fast-shooting as Benny.

    Just thinking…

  373. mbplekfan says:

    That is an idea that needs some looking into. JM wont do it, but he should.

  374. christophor says:

    There must be something I’m missing because it seems this guy should have grown up playing center.

    I’ve gotta repost this tomorrow to see if anyone thinks this is nuts. 

  375. rocketsglare says:

    Good post. Something to consider probably for next year. I doubt anything can be done this season given that

    it would require the necessary time for Pouliot to readjust his game and hopefully become effective in that role.

    Go Habs Go!

  376. JSP1990 says:

    Benny was drafted as a centre I believe. He played it while he was a Wild anyway. I would love to see it happen here.

  377. light_n_tasty says:

    I’m pretty sure he’s always been a LW, even in the OHL.  Maybe you’re thinking of Cammy?

  378. light_n_tasty says:

    I’m pretty sure he’s always been a LW, even in the OHL.  Maybe you’re thinking of Cammy?

  379. JSP1990 says:

    I know Cammy was a centre in college and with the LA Kings. But i swear I thought Benny at the very least played it in Minny? Idk. Maybe i’m losin it? I am on HI/O at 3 am. lol

  380. habs001 says:

    i hope i am wrong but watching pouliot this year and last i still only see him a s a very serviceable 15-18 goals scorer…i just dont seem him as a consistent nhl scorer…maxpac looks the same to me….

  381. christophor says:

    maybe that’s because he’s not a winger.

    maybe he’s made for open ice, not for the boards.

  382. MTLForever says:

    drafted as LW but id like to see him as centre, he has the tools for it

  383. MTLForever says:

    ya benny drafted as LW but hey, i think giving him a shot down the middle could benefit us

  384. twocents says:

    Despite what people have said below Pouliot has played centre over the years. OHL, AHL and with Minny. hockeyfutures.com used to list him as C/LW and so did faceoff.com.

    I think he has the tools to succeed there and it’s where he belongs. My only concern is how he would deal with the extra defensive responsibility.

    btw, Bugs got the idea from me. ;o)

  385. adam76 says:

    Canes three points back  Boston up a point but has two games in hand.  A must win in Jan – if this team could have only played .500 in Dec………

    Hope Price doesn’t play poor after his little “word up, G” stunt.  Last time he showboated (with his tribute to  Usain Bolt) in the shootout, he lost 5 out of his last 8 games.

  386. Bugs says:


    Sir! How dare you?

    Happy New Year, signed

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  387. Bugs says:

    Yeah, I said it! And I’ll say it again:

    My boy has more creative talent than anyone else on this team as well as the size and speed, not to mention his infuriating overtendancy to pass instead of takin the shot, which happens to be a friggin Howitzer.

    1st line centre.

    Not today. Certainly not today.

    But properly moulded. Conditioned. Brainwashed. Some day. Oh yeah, baby.

    Happy New Year, signed 

    L. Bugs Potter, esq., Herzog of ze Abominable Habsuchtig Brigade, Markgraf of ze Fearsome Flanell Flausen Flank, und devoted minion of ze Habsbros Order: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  388. Bradzerker says:

    I’m really peaved Habs mgt didn’t have this taken care of in ANY off season JG has been with the club.  They knew it eventually had to be done and now it’s happened at probably the worst time possible.  Habs mgt dropped the ball.

  389. Chuck says:

    You’re forgetting about a little factor called a high ankle sprain, which probably affected his play a lot more than any pose.

    Centre Hice: A case for Georges Vezina

  390. HardHabits says:

    Yes but how did he get that sprain? Doing that bow and arrow thing takes a lot of flexibility.

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    Hi Sofia, great article Love the Alligator Gucci. Today I was in a upscale department store that just so happens to carry LV’s. I was looking at the Trevi GM Bag and made a discovery. The label in the inside said LV Paris made in the USA. I pointed it out to the sales person that was assisting me and she said mmmmm. I did not know they were made in the USA. I said, I thought they were made in France and Spain. Were you aware that the LV’s were made in the US?

    Reply Sofia ~ 03/25/2010 at 3:49 pm

    They make Louis Vuitton in France, Spain and also in the United States. Most of what is sold in the U.S. has a U.S label so no need to worry my dear

    Reply Julia ~ 03/25/2010 at 3:51 pm

    Hello Sofia!
    I’m new to the world of replica and your site is a great help. Thank you!
    I want to buy my first replica bag – Jimmy Choo Mahala bag. Unfortunately, your favorite sites ReplicaValley.com and Replicavision.com don’t offer one. Maybe you could advise some store that offer a good quality Jimmy Choo replicas? Thanx again!

    Reply Sofia ~ 03/25/2010 at 4:31 pm

    I have been looking myself for some good Jimmy Choo but have come up dry! Anyone?

    Reply Jessica ~ 03/25/2010 at 6:11 pm

    Oh wow!!! I love that Gucci bag! Have any of the replicas been released anywhere?

    Reply Sofia ~ 03/26/2010 at 9:43 am

    Hey Jess, unfortunately the items in the 2010 collection won`t be available anywhere till summer

    Reply mellie bellie ~ 03/25/2010 at 8:33 pm

    Thanks Sofia!

    Reply maria ~ 03/25/2010 at 10:01 pm

    Sofia i need your advise on this site i have been viewing for a while now called ReplicaShippe.com . I am nervous because i never order anything from any site with no contact number. I love their Marc Jocabs, Miu Miu,and Jimmy Choo. This site has great pictures along with some great bags . Have you heard or know anything about this site , ohh they also offer free shipping which would be A++. I need your expertise, help meeee.

    Reply Sofia ~ 03/26/2010 at 10:26 am

    Hey Maria, sorry, but I tried accessing the website with no results coming up. Are you sure you gave me the correct link?

    Reply S.S ~ 03/26/2010 at 1:24 am

    Try Beubag.com? They have heaps of Jimmy Choos, including the one that I’ve been lusting over – Lohla-Jayne. Not sure if they’re legit or good quality though….

    Reply Sofia ~ 03/26/2010 at 10:40 am

    Hmm, but you see S.S., despite the fact that they have a tab saying Jimmy Choo purses, they carry only wallets.

    Reply Sofia ~ 03/26/2010 at 10:47 am

    wait a minute …I get it…I clicked on Jimmy Choo purses and got only wallets but if you do a search for Jimmy choo they do have bags.

    Reply Bego ~ 03/26/2010 at 7:00 am

    for Jimmy Choo you can try also they are both Chinese sites but they are serious.

    Reply Julia ~ 03/26/2010 at 4:00 pm

    Hi everyone! Checked out the sites you mentioned. It looks to me ReplicaEstore is the best for Jimmy Choo so far (at least they have plenty of pics what seem of a real bag). Bagaholics.com also have nice pics but these are too good to be true and very few pics per bag. I think I will try to buy Jimmy Choo at ReplicaEstore. Sofia, have you checked mentioned sites? What do you think? Thanx!

    Reply Sofia ~ 03/28/2010 at 3:28 pm

    I did a review of replicaestore but I am not a big fan of bagaholics because of the pictures. I have heard some people complain about the quality of the bags at replicaestore and some that are totally happy. The pictures are legit though so I recommend buying from them once you have inspected the picture well.

    Reply maria ~ 03/26/2010 at 4:49 pm

    Hi Sofia , If you google ReplicaShippe. Just type it in like this on the google box , it should come up. I tried to type the HTT:// etc. and it would not come up either. So i just Google it . Sorry about that Sofia. Thank You..

    Reply Sofia ~ 04/01/2010 at 11:08 am

    Looks like a complete fraud. Very unprofessional site and they only accept western union. Never shop at a site that only accepts western union. That is how people get their money stolen.

    Reply Rina ~ 05/04/2010 at 8:16 am

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    Reply Sofia ~ 05/04/2010 at 2:58 pm

    Have you tried their live chat support? They should know better than me

    Reply maria ~ 03/26/2010 at 5:00 pm

    Bego or anyone have you bought anything from any of the sites you listed above and if so what , and what is the rating of quality? Thank You

    Reply bego ~ 03/31/2010 at 1:31 pm

    Hi Maria yes i bought the alexa mulberry handbag from bagaholics and it’s perfect, very happy. About their pics, most of the models have at least 6 different side pictures.

    Reply Ash ~ 04/05/2010 at 5:07 am

    Hi Bego – was looking at the Alexa as well at bagaholics – it does look good! and I enquired and was told by customer service that the python is apparently real and not glued on – is that right? did you get the medium or oversized (the oversized seem to miss a few features..) I’m tossing up between Alexa and PS1 – but I wouldn’t recommend anyone buy the yellow PS1 as the rings are not the same as the authentic and cannot be removed easily!

    Reply bego ~ 04/05/2010 at 4:21 pm

    Hi Ash, i bought the Alexa oversized (i like to carry my newspaper, make up,…etc i need space) but is not too too big, in oak color, I love it,leather handbags! I don’t know what you mean by the python, anyway i just looked all around the bag and nothing is glued on.

    Reply Ash ~ 04/07/2010 at 2:51 am

    hi Bego, thanks for replying – I was meaning the python on the black – which I don’t think would be on the oak. sounds great – i might have to take the plunge.

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    Again, thank you for this wonderful site.


    Reply Sofia ~ 04/22/2010 at 2:28 am

    Hi Callie,

    First I would recommend asking a question and checking their customer service response before buying. Since you can’t call email is your only option. You want to know that they respond in a timely manner.

    They do seem to have a good return policy. However, truth be told, my guess is that the text on this site is stolen from other sites. It seems a little mismatched. The same goes for the pictures.

    My conclusion is I would consider it a risk to buy from this site but their are no obvious warning signs that the site is an all out fraud.

    Regarding your concerns about the credit card charges I wouldn’t worry about that. They have alot of currencies on their site but they will only be able to actually process the charge in one currency. It is unclear what that currency is but it would appear that it is different than currency you have chosen. The difference in price should be negligible. It might even end up cheaper but that is depending on a whole bunch of factors that I don’t know much about. I do know that of the 3 currencies they could be working with dollar, Euro, or Chinese RMB all 3 are reasonably stable at the moment so you shouldn’t see any dramatic changes.

    Reply Zoubah ~ 04/23/2010 at 2:04 am

    Hello Sofia

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    Reply Sofia ~ 04/23/2010 at 5:34 am

    You and me both! They already have the Neo at replicavalley and I am told they will the new denim sunrise by early next week. As for the Ceche it is my understanding that it is not yet available in China.

    Reply Elisha ~ 06/01/2010 at 4:07 pm

    Hey Sofia! Great website, after reading so many of your posts I feel like I’m ready to get my first replica! (I only have one genuine Gucci bag, and I feel so stupid for spending all that money! I never thought replicas could be so good).

    Two questions for you!
    1. Will the leather in replica LV bags get oxidized and darker? Because that part of it’s charm…
    2. OMG I simply h-a-v-e to get the new LV raindrop bag!!! Do you think it will ever be available as a replica? I think it’s gorgeous!!!


    Reply Sofia ~ 06/01/2010 at 4:23 pm

    Hey Elisha, great to have you as a reader!
    To answer your first question,Gucci, yes, the leather does get darker. As for the Raindrop, I really don`t know, but it might, just like all the others
    Keep reading!

    Reply Jeannie ~ 06/11/2010 at 7:46 pm

    Hi Sofia! Have you tried a lot of fendi bags from how is their quality? because i’m interested in getting this bag..
    What do you think?

    Do you have any recommendations for an everyday, simple, lightweight bag for a student that’s good for most of the year? It doesn’t have to be fendi.. I was going to get the LV watercolor but i changed my mind.. =/


    Reply Sofia ~ 06/14/2010 at 1:46 pm

    Hey Jeannie!
    That`s a great Fendi bag but it`s not something I`d use on a daily basis.
    A Speedy would be great for what you need. Or why not a Mulberry Alexa, which if I think about it more, is a much better choice! I`m planning on getting one very soon too,Prada, I`m still confused about the color, though blue was my first choice
    Here they are

    Reply vivian ~ 10/24/2010 at 7:02 pm

    Hey Sofia can you please check out this site to see if they have decent stuff? I wanted to get a louis vuitton 2010 gypsy bad, and they have pretty decent pictures.
    Thanks so much

    Reply Sofia ~ 10/25/2010 at 1:58 pm

    I will need the link for the site you want me to take a look at…

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  393. MTLForever says:

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