Gomez out with a concussion

Gomez
The Canadiens’ centre was driven into the boards by Buffalo defenceman Tyler Myers Monday night, a hit that has drawn a three-game suspension.
Scottt Gomez will not play when Ottawa visits the Bell Centre Wednesday night and is probably out of the Canadiens back-to-back games on Friday and Saturday.

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208 Comments

  1. doug19 says:

    If Nail gets nailed in junior what happens in the NHL?

  2. doug19 says:

    Gomez out? There goes the season!

  3. AK_PK_Usay says:

    @ HH

    You have some serious mommy/daddy issues.

    Markov worked his ASS off to get back into the game because he loves it.

    EVERYBODY who saw him train said he was a source of inspiration, you were probably mad Koivu got cancer too.

    Really wish this website had an “ignore” function, cos you’re an ignorant, immature internet troll.

    Markov shows determination and perseverance, those are very honourable qualities, what’s your excuse for trashing that?

  4. alwayssunny says:

    Clearly the league has sent a message that it will not tolerate it’s superstars taking cheap shots. Godspeed to Gomez, been a tough luck year for him. We’re going to need him at 100 percent next year and the year after.

  5. The Jackal says:

    HH you make good posts sometimes, but you’re certainly not the first to suggest tanking (which just happens, teams don’t actually do it as a strategy), hand passes, or 3-3. So no applause is warranted here.

  6. HardHabits says:

    So let me see. Markov at 5.75M and Kaberle at 4.25M

    10 million dollars for a 3rd defensive pairing is a good deal right?

    I am saying this because Markov looks beyond rusty. He looks like the corrosion has set in so deep that some pieces have flaked off.

    Yes it has been 2 years since he played and this is like a pre-season for him, but it is also highly likely that Markov will never be the dominant top pairing defence man he was in the past. And I still think he is vulnerable. In that case IMO he isn’t worth his cap hit.

    Time will tell but I think the Habs have another high priced lemon on their hands.

    Speaking of cap hits. For those suggesting that Gomez’ issue is his cap hit, I used to think that. Like maybe if he was coming in at 2.5-3M he’d be worth it. The way Gomez plays even that is too much now. It is looking more and more like the NHL train has left the Gomez station.

    I am still having nightmares about the Habs trading their 1st pick for another over the hill and high priced has been this summer.

    • shiram says:

      Hey there’s a new thread, I hear all the cool kids will hang out there, check it out.
      Also : “Markov is NEVER gonna play again” rings a bell?

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      I agree about Gomez, but we should probably give Markov a few more minutes before we judge. :)

    • ont fan says:

      When you have been hurt bad enough to miss a season in any sport, you will understand how careful Markov is going to be for awhile. Every twinge at all will make him think about it. The timing and rhythm of a real game will take the rest of the year to get it back. He’ll be ok next year.

    • ed lopaz says:

      HH, Markov has a lot to offer even if his skating never recovers to 100% – which it is way to early to judge.

      Markov is a very intelligent hockey player, making great decisions with and without the puck.

      Markov is a great passer, distributor of the puck.

      Markov is a great PP quarterback, which adds great value to this team.

      Markov can make excellent positioning decisions, which will take away angles and force the opposition even if he can’t out skate them (Gill was famous for this)

      Markov is a leader and a mentor to our young d-men, especially in Russian to Emelin

      I am confident that Markov is worth his 5.75 even if his skating is never the same.

    • 2 games in after missing what, 16 months, and you’re already trashing Markov. Seriously dude, what’s wrong with you?
      And Gomez, is pretty much a dead issue. He’ll be buried in the AHL and the cap space will make us spenders this seummer. I don’t share your nightmare at all. Sucks to be you.

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      Wow, that was fast. Two games in after missing the better part of 2 seasons, and already it’s “doom and gloom”. Two games a continent apart and losing an hour due to daylight savings time. And he had the flu shortly before.

      Of course Markov wasn’t worth 5.75M this year given that he’s only played 2 games. But what I interpret from your post is that he will never be worth 5.75M in the upcoming years. Now that is a bold statement to make, and I don’t think is justified given the circumstances.

      • HardHabits says:

        I said it is a possibility, if he cannot live up to his billing as a top pairing D man. I am not convinced that he has 20+ minutes per 82 games left in him. I am allowed to have concerns, no?

        I think you people need to take step back and see observations for what they are. It is not doom or gloom just because it isn’t a rose tinted lens wearing gushing.

    • Whatever says:

      If time will tell, what’s the point in writing him off today?

    • punkster says:

      Of course, this was your regular stir-the-pot, create-the-discussion, sling-the-brown-stuff-against-the-wall-and-see-what-sticks thing, right HH?

      I’m on to you, you sneaky devil you.

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • Shane1313 says:

      Honestly sometimes HH I don’t like your posts and sometimes they’re fine. But this one is just stupid.

      • HardHabits says:

        People also thought my Tanking and Size and Grit posts were stupid.

        Don’t forget I also suggested that the league end hand passes and also consider adding 5 minutes of 3 on 3 after 5 minutes of 4 on 4. Two things the league is looking into.

        The bottom line is that this is a concern about Markov and not a wish.

        Too bad for all of you who would rather keep heads in sand.

  7. TorontoHabsFan says:

    A pretty good opportunity for St-Denis to make his case for being first call-up in the event of an injury.

    I remember liking what I saw the last time he was up, hope it works out for him!

  8. ProHabs says:

    Damn. Going to the Habs-Sens game in Ottawa on Friday night and was looking forward to seeing G-Love play. I was even going to wear my Habs hat to throw on the ice in case he got a hat-trick. Oh Well I guess my hat is safe.

    On another not, Myers will have a meeting with Staubitz next game. Once Staubitz takes care of him, Myers will think twice before doing a check like that again.

    • shiram says:

      Talk about a mis-match….

    • jon514 says:

      Pretty hard for Staubitz to punch up like that…

      “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

    • Mattyleg says:

      Yep. Good ol’ Staubitz will make sure that nobody pushes us around.
      Just like Burrows and Lapierre didn’t get in Price’s grill after Staubitz fought their team’s fighter.
      Yessir.
      He really did the job there.
      My guess: Staubitz goes after Myers like a goon, Myers doesn’t fight, or protects himself, no punches land, Myers and the rest of the world don’t give a shit.
      That’s my guess.

      I’ve been saaaaved!!
      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • twilighthours says:

        Gomez might give a sh!t. If he does, does that change your opinion?

        • HardHabits says:

          Leave Matty alone. He is just upset that nobody took out that turnstile after it assaulted him.

          • Mattyleg says:

            It wouldn’t have changed anything.
            The turnstile would’a kept turnin’…

            Plus, I’d never want anyone to go after that thing.
            It’s a killer!!

            I’ve been saaaaved!!
            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Mr. Biter says:

            Come the next Habs vs. Sabres guarantee in stone Staubitz goes after Myers big time. If Staubitz would have gone after Myers last game with 5 minutes left and us down a goal the anti fighting faction on this site would have gone after him for being stupid in taking a penalty in a close game with time running out. Then MattyLeg would have been in his glory about Staubitz. BTW about the Vancouver game , unless Matty was watching and old replay of another Vancouver game Price had virtually no one in his crease and all Laps was doing was his usual “Yapping” from the safety of his bench. Some thing never change.

            Mr. Biter
            No Guts No Glory

          • Mattyleg says:

            Okay, correction noted.
            Lappy didn’t do too much, it was all Burrows, getting into it with Campoli, and yes, getting into Price’s crease on more than one occasion.

            Just to clarify for people who aren’t up to date, I am not anti-fighting, I am anti-goon, and anti-staged-fight. A skilled player losing his shiznit and getting into it with someone is fine. It shows passion, which is what a team can get behind. A goon fighting another knuckle-dragger causes a team not to think “yeah!! Go for it!!” It causes them to think “Well, I guess that’s what he’s here for…”

            I’ve been saaaaved!!
            —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Mattyleg says:

          He gives a crap that Staubitz throws some punches?
          Meh. I doubt it.
          Look at what happened after Max’s suspension.
          Some thug came after him, and it changed nothing.

          I’ve been saaaaved!!
          —Hope Springs Eternal—

  9. HabinBurlington says:

    Okay have a good day everybody, high of 20 degrees here in Southern Ontario, wearing shorts and heading to the Links! Sorry folks in Montreal.

  10. Chuck says:

    FYI…

    CANADIENS RECALL ST-DENIS FROM BULLDOGS
    Defenseman scored his first NHL goal with Montreal in December

    MONTREAL, QC – The Montreal Canadiens announced today that defenseman Frederic St-Denis has been recalled from the Hamilton Bulldogs.

    St-Denis, 26, has played in 52 games for Hamilton this season, recording 28 points (3 goals, 25 assists) while registering two power play goals and 101 shots on goal. The 5-foot-11, 182-pound defenseman has played 8 games with the Canadiens this season, including his first NHL game on Wednesday, November 16th, 2011 against the Carolina Hurricanes. The native of Pointe-Claire, Quebec scored his first career NHL goal on Thursday, December 8th, 2011 against the Vancouver Canucks. In his time with Montreal, St-Denis has recorded four shots on goal, three blocked shots, and maintained a +1 plus/minus rating while playing an average of 11:48 per game in his time with Montreal.

    ___________________________________________________
    Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.

    • shiram says:

      Too bad he is kinda small for a D, he seems to be a good one, but with Diaz, Weber arleady set in the same mold, it will be a tough battle for that spot on the bottom pairing.

    • Mattyleg says:

      So what does that mean?
      Weber is playing on the 4th line?
      Our D are Markov, Emelin, Gorges, PK, Campoli, Kaberle, St.Denis?

      I’ve been saaaaved!!
      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • habs03 says:

      Kaberle had a baby today so I’m guessin he won’t be playing tonight.

    • Cal says:

      Great. Now RC is going to dress 8 Dmen. Can’t wait until he and the other Randy are gone.

    • third generation haber says:

      St-Denis represents our chance to take tank unintentionally. Like rolling 4 lines, playing 2 goalies, mixing-up the lines. We’re still playing hard, but it’s about testing the waters for next year (like an early pre-season).

      I really don’t care if he’s small, he’s much tougher and physical than Weber, Campoli, Kaberle (so is a marshmellow), and Diaz.

      With regards to heart, this guy would kill to play in the NHL and kill to play with the habs! Can u say the same about even half of our players???

      I’d rather get 100% each shift out of this guy, making the league minimum than the millions we pay softies to mail it in most nights.

      j.p. murray

      • vegas says:

        Kaberle hasn’t been that bad since we got him, Ya he doesn’t hit but as a 5-6 dman running at an approx 50 point pace, he is more than ok. When was the last time he had a major defensive blunder. It’s just that it gets amplified everytime he does something wrong. Give him a nice big mean right handed shot #6 partner and we will be more than fine
        top 6 of
        PK, Gorges
        Markov, Emelin
        Kaberle, big boy
        Nash, St Denis, Diaz or Webber can be # 7
        is pretty sweet to me

        I also laugh when I hear half the team isn’t trying
        I think the only one that stands out is Bourque
        I think its more a lack of talent
        Max, DD and Cole give their all
        Give Pleks some linemates
        White and Staubitz have filled their role
        Some of the Heart guys are out, Moen, Gionta and Darche
        the rest are kids

        I really hope RC breaks up the DD line to finish the season, would be nice to see how some of them play with other linemates
        I’d personally like to see DD with Bourque, miht light up a fire under him. DD is a passer and Bourque is a sooter. the combo might work

        • third generation haber says:

          The problem is you’ve listed a guy who makes over 4mil per year as a third pairing! And u placed him correctly!

          His recent spell of competent hockey is likely due to his reduced duties, especially with 5 on 5 play.

          In a cap system, a player like Kaberle is a nightmare.

          j.p. murray

  11. gmur says:

    Listened to Farber’s take on Crosby’s return. I agree that if Crosby wants to stay in hockey, he has to change his approach to the game. He can’t yap at everyone and hit like he used to. He has a good example of someone who had to change his approach to the game and yet remain an effective player: Matt Cooke. I’m not comparing Cooke to Crosby in terms of skill, obviously, but Cooke stopped being the cheap-shot agitator and focussed on hockey. Cooke still brings a lot to the Penguins, even if he has lessened his role as agitator.

  12. Mattyleg says:

    Hey!
    Morning everybody!
    It’s snowing in Montreal!
    Big fat slushy flakes-a-fallin’!

    Man oh man, did it feel good to see Boston get trounced last night.
    They were appallingly bad.
    Standing still in their own zone, and TB just skated around them like pylons.
    It was great. Turco In! Turco Out! Thomas In! Thomas Out! Turco In!
    What a laff riot.

    Sorry to see Gomer get decked. He was actually starting to do some good stuff. I still don’t agree with having him on the powerplay, but he wasn’t doing any more of his dipsy-doodling passes that were so brilliant and unexpected that nobody expected them and created turnovers.
    He was starting to be effective with significantly less TOI.

    Looking forward to tonight’s game. Gonna pound Otty.
    Great that Price is rested a bit.
    I think that people who are sharting on him have forgotten how much he’s played this year. Good to see Budaj playing some games because it’s good for him to get action, and it’s good for Carey to rest and actually WATCH the games.
    Shame we couldn’t have got Budaj in earlier in the season.

    I’ve been saaaaved!!
    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      There seems to be a very fine line between being a good or bad team, at least on a game-by-game basis. Perhaps those who believe the Habs can turn it around next year are not necessarily drinking kool aid (to use a stupid expression that is a fave on this site).

  13. jon514 says:

    Speaking of players with size who can solve our scoring woes in 2-3 years:

    Danick Gauthier 6’2″ 44 goals, 36 assists, 80 points, +39
    Mark Stone 6’3″ 39 goals, 76 assists, 115 points, +39
    Emerson Etem 6’1″ 60 goals, 45 assists, 105 points, +29

    These players are all excelling at the CHL level. We were able to make a deal to bring Patrick Holland over. Let’s make some deals to bring these guys in and have 5 forwards in Hamilton next year who put up 40 goals or 100 points the previous year in the CHL. Thoughts?

    “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

    • vegas says:

      who owns their rights and would we make good trading partners?

      • jon514 says:

        (Tampa Bay) Danick Gauthier 6’2″ 44 goals, 36 assists, 80 points, +39
        (Ottawa) Mark Stone 6’3″ 39 goals, 76 assists, 115 points, +39
        (Anaheim) Emerson Etem 6’1″ 60 goals, 45 assists, 105 points, +29

        “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

  14. Habitall says:

    Now Yakupov, the other day Gomez, plus so many others — who can even count the number of concussions anymore. One of the most serious cases seems to be that of Pronger, who according to his wife is not doing well.

    There has to be a way to make changes. Punishment for head hits seems too inconsistent, and many say it’s not a real solutionm, given the need to maintain the game’s physical element.

    I say it’s time to expand the ice. Yes, retrofit all the arenas to Olympic dimensions, screw the one time costs and even the ongoing revenues lost due to removing a few rows of seats. They can be recovered over time. In a league where ordinary players get $3-$4 million per year, there has to be some creative ways of making the money.

    The players are just too big and fast now to be playing on the same size ice surface that Howie Morenz & Maurice Richard played on. There were concussions in those days too, but nothing like we’ve seen since the 1990s.

    Sure, tweak the rules re. padding and maybe allow a bit of old time interference, but bottom line is the players have too little room to move, too little margin for error, and concussions will continue so long as you have big and super fast players competing hard on an ice surface that your Bantam-age kid plays on.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Didn’t you hear Brian “The Guru” Burke?
      Concussions aren’t a problem.

      Jeez…

      I’ve been saaaaved!!
      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • gmur says:

      Making the ice surface bigger does seem like the only real measure that will give players a better chance of avoiding certain types of hits… not the kind of hit that hurt Gomez, but players will have more time and space to avoid open-ice hits.

      • mr dave says:

        bigger ice surfaces might increase the speed and impact of hits re;harder hit =worse injuries longer recovery maybe retirement for some due to the severity of injury.

        the habs have 24 cups I have 24 beers

        • Habitall says:

          Possibly, but it would be interesting to see a comparison of injuries in Europe vs. those in North America. Are the Swedes, Czechs and Russians experiencing simillar levels of concussions?

          • mr dave says:

            other countrys do not play the same style of hockey, there more of a passing league game than a contact or hitting, more hooking and slashing, so comparing the two leagues might beharder to compare .
            the habs have 24 cups I have 24 beers

          • athanor says:

            mr dave, the larger ice surface could well be why the European game features more passing.

            Imagine a player going that extra distance to try get a hit only to find that he is too late — the guy has had the time to get rid of the puck and is no longer eligible to be hit. Now the player is likely out of position.

            It may just not be worth trying for all the hammering hits. Of course, guys like Emelin might put a lie to my whole suggestion.

        • gmur says:

          Maybe. The NHL would have to check out stats and research leagues like the KHL to see if the bigger ice surface makes a difference in the number of concussions. Then again, correct me if I’m wrong, but I would hazard a guess that the NHL is ahead of other leagues in terms of diagnosing concussions and taking measures to stop players from returning to play too soon. If you agree a player has suffered a concussion, you have to then follow up with time off for the player, which is very costly for injuries that are not physically apparent. The NHL has the money to make such calls, maybe not the KHL.

          • Habitall says:

            Agree on the KHL. But you’d think that leagues operating in nanny states like Sweden and Finland would be the most cautious in the world. I’m no progressive, but this is one area my inner Swede is showing.

    • If there is one sport that compares to hockey in terms of head shots and concussions it would be football. And yet when you look at how well protected a football player’s head is compared to a hockey player’s head why in the world is that not the first thing to look at? Yes, it would not be esthetically pleasing to see players in full cages or even football style helmets, but hockey is a much faster sport, played on a harder surface, and the head protection is woefully short of a football players. Making the ice surface bigger will just give these guys more room to build up even more speed on the monster hits.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Even with that, there are people saying that football is in danger of falling apart because of concussions.

        They should be playing on a CFL-sized field. More room to move, more time to react.

        I’ve been saaaaved!!
        —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Cal says:

        Separating a player from the puck should not involve separating his head from his body. Scott Stevens was a dirty piece of shit and that bs kind of hitting seems to be the one that stuck and the type that players aspire to.

      • Habitall says:

        In theory, the idea that a bigger ice surface will lead to greater momentum and hence greater hit impact is reasonable. But there’s a counterpoint: there will be more manoevering room for players with the puck, more opportunity to avoid being hit. As for plays along the board, there’s always been penalties for boarding or charging. It’s not like players are allowed to take runs at opponents. Just make those calls consistently and I see it as a net positive.

      • Welks says:

        Unfortunatly the best helmet ever built will not stop concussions.
        Concussions are cause when the brain which is suspended in fluid forceably slams into the skull. There is not a helmet that can stop that. Helmets prevent skull fractures not concussions

    • Mustang says:

      It is interesting that you bring up the point of the size of the ice surface. I have been saying for years that the NHL missed a perfect opportunity 10 or 12 years ago when many of the teams were in the process of building new facilities that they should have included the Olympic dimentions. The players now are just too big, too strong, and way too fast now for the NHL rinks. The game is very choppy with no one holding the puck for more than a couple of seconds. I feel that the game would not only be safer but also more interesting on the bigger surface.

    • mr dave says:

      i for one think the equipment has to be changed back to the softer padding. every time i here there was contact made to the head of a player i think back to when,richard zednik had his face smashed by that d man for the boooins. klye mclaren?. elbow to the face =broken nose,semi concussed never the same player after that hit.

      the habs have 24 cups I have 24 beers

    • boing007 says:

      Agree 100%. Need more breathing spaces for skilled players to skate, maneuver and pass the puck.

      Richard R

  15. gmur says:

    People here may have already seen this and commented. If so, I missed it.

    Fail for Nail may have hit a snag…

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=621641

    Here’s the hit:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXkI9lwjiOg

    This kind of concussion (reports unclear if Yakupov suffered a concussion and if so what type) and these kinds of hits are going to muddy the waters when you draft high. Has the player suffered a couple of concussions in his junior days? Will you gamble a number one pick on a smaller player who will have his head around most players’ elbows in the NHL?

  16. HabinBurlington says:

    Who do you feel more sorry for Scott Gomez and how his career has turned sour or Stu Hackel. Everytime Stu writes a nice piece on our opposition, 5 mins later Boone steals his thunder and starts a new thread. Stu doesn’t get enough lovin’ round here. :)

    • slamtherimtim says:

      true dat , when he first starting posting here , it had nothing to do about the habs at all , but he has seem to come around , either about the habs or an opponent , good reads too

    • shiram says:

      Well, Scott Gomez.
      I would not wish a concussion on anyone, and even if we rag on him here, and whatever money he makes, the last 2 seasons must have been really hard on him, and this season with all those injuries, it can’t be easy.

      • smiler2729 says:

        I like Scott Gomez and refuse to rag on him endlessly. His on-ice problems are all upstair$… wish he could play like a Devil again.

        Buying him out seems the only real solution.

        __________________________________
        Jack Edwards is a clam, Bruins are pukes.

        • HardHabits says:

          Buying him out is not the solution. Sending him to the minors is.

          • shiram says:

            Unless it’s a new CBA free buyout thingy.

          • The Dude says:

            Just use G-love against Tyler Myers…

          • Mattyleg says:

            Sending him to the minors is a bad idea for three reasons:
            1) It will create bad vibes in the room for the players who liked him. 2) He was injured a lot this season, and I’m sure there are players who will consider his injuries as being a major factor in his underproduction, and could end up getting the jitters that they might be sent down if they get injured, and try to rush themselves back.
            3) I don’t think that his attitude is a great model for our youth in Hamilton.

            I’ve been saaaaved!!
            —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • third generation haber says:

          Buying him out would result in a 4 year cap hit! not helpful.

          our only solution is burying him in the minors.

          People, please stop making excuses for this guy!

          He makes, not star money, but supestar money. He is the 4th best center on our team, and barely qualifies as NHL talent anymore. He sucked during his 2 seasons with the rangers (nothing to do with injuries) and will continue to suck.

          If he’s going to continue disgracing himself and the uniform then he’s asking for criticism. Sure he’s a likeable guy, but he’s hurting this team and should retire if he has any dignity.

          I can’t recall any player enduring such a long and humiliating stretch of uselessness in NHL history.

          What would we be saying about a leaf player who made 7.5 million to score 2 goals a year????

          Answer: He better be one great starting goalie!

          j.p. murray

          • Mattyleg says:

            Nobody’s making excuses for him.
            They’re just saying that it sucks being him.
            And suggesting where his problems might be coming from.
            A source is not an excuse.

            I’ve been saaaaved!!
            —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I wasn’t at all intending to poke fun at the concussion, I meant more in general with what has happened to his career the last 2 years. I like Gomez, I really thought he would come back strong this year. I hope I didn’t come across as making light of a serious concussion.

        • shiram says:

          No worries, I knew you were not intending to add insult to his injuries.
          But it just got me thinking, Gomez out with a concussion thinking back on his last season, it must quite a dark place he is in.

    • jmsheehy19 says:

      I was just about to say something about that. Boone always seems to have a post in reserve waiting for Stu.

      Hope Gomez fully recovers. The epidemic that doesn’t exist according to the NHL continues.

    • Cal says:

      Stu is our very own super-scout. Always good to read his columns for us.

  17. shiram says:

    Disliked that Tremblay dissed video games, people should be aware that that they are fiction, and people have morals and ethic that differ in the real world.
    He also provides no link to bolster is claim that video games lead to reckless hockey players.
    Video games are such an easy scapegoat to use, but no one brings proof that they can ” program” one to be more violent or criminal.

  18. Ali says:

    At least some former Habs are having success this year. Many of them in Dallas.

    - Was great to see Saku reach 1000 games this week. Will be nice to see Anaheim honor him tonight. Guy was, and still is, my favourite player.

    - Sheldon Souray is a +20 in Dallas this year while averaging +20 minutes a game. Happy to see him sort out his career.

    - Ryder hits 30 in Dallas. Nice to see that Claude Julien isn’t the only one who can get the best out of him. See Bob, he can score 30 while not on a one year contract!

    - Robidas ended a one year goal drought the other day. Great how he has turned himself into a reliable top 4 dman.

    -Think AK46 likes being reunited with his baby bro? a point a game in Nashville. Must be something in the water there.

    • gmur says:

      Ryder is the player who most impresses me. In a game last week, he made some very good moves to get by defence men… always thought he was more of a shooter. He has developed well during his time in Boston and Dallas.

    • TorontoHabsFan says:

      Not so much the water in Nashville as the realization that if he flops there, his next stop is probably the KHL (a la Frolov).

    • Malreg says:

      6 points in 6 games is nothing to be too impressed with by AK46. If he continues to perform for the rest of the season, and in the playoffs, then I’ll be impressed.

    • boing007 says:

      Maybe it’s Jack Daniels. And Southern belles.

      Richard R

  19. Mr.Hazard says:

    It was 46 shots (43 saves).

    How about them Leafs? They could hardly have done worse, what is it now, 14 losses in the last 16 games?

  20. HabinBurlington says:

    Not one to promote fighting, but Steve McIntyre goes absolutely bonkers in an AHL game the other night. The announcers are great on this video clip. I seem to recall McIntyre being on waivers and people here asking for this guy to be picked up. What an embarrassment to hockey.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/watch-steve-macintyre-wilkes-barre-scranton-lose-marbles-022631260.html

  21. FuzE_gus says:

    I think Gomez should take this injury seriously. You can’t rush back from a concussion. Take your time Scotty…2 years ought to do it ;-)

    With Regards from FuzE_gus

  22. HabinBurlington says:

    More bad news for Scott Gomez, Devil’s Advocate, a blog site dedicated to the New Jersey Devils, came out with a top 30 list of most dominant figures, past or present as related to the franchise.

    Scotty didn’t make the list.
    http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/d_advocate/comments/devils_30_most_dominant_figures/

    You will recognize quite a few names on the list from their Habs days however.

    • savethepuck says:

      As much as Gomer gets bashed because of the past 2 seasons, the guy has had a very successful NHL career. Picked 27th overall in 1998, he has more career points than anyone else in his draft class. The first overall that year, Vinnie Lecavalier, is a close second and sure to pass him, but still a respectable career.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

  23. 24 Cups says:

    I’m not a big fan of Craig Button but here is his latest update on the entry draft mock draft.

    http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=49649

    • ed lopaz says:

      in case you were unaware, #27 Mike Matheson is a product of the same general area that produced Louis Leblanc.

      in fact they know each other well and have been known to train together in the summer.

      Matheson is a smooth skating defenceman who brings a great work ethic and hockey IQ to the rink every day and every shift. He played Midget AAA for Leblanc’s alumni, the Lac St Louis Lions, and led that team all the way to a bronze medal in the Canadian championships. Then he played U18 Canada, and now he is a key defenceman for his USHL team.

      “smooth” is not a strong enough word to describe his skating.

      It is almost inconceivable that an 18 year old could skate better than Matheson. That’s the way I would put it. But every year the players get better and faster.

      Because of this, and his other skills are excellent as well, I have no doubt that he will play in the NHL.

      He has committed however to Boston College, and they are the #1 ranked NCAA team, so any team taking him might have to wait a few years.

      Had he played in the Q, he would be ranked between 10-15 in the draft.

      An excellent prospect.

      • twilighthours says:

        Sounds like a guy to pick up in the 2nd or 3rd round.

        • ed lopaz says:

          I doubt he will be around in the 3rd round.

          The Sharks, the Flyers and Bruins do a lot of scouting in Quebec.

          The Habs know of Matheson as well.

          He was the #1 ranked 1994 player coming out of the Quebec Midget league.

          • 24 Cups says:

            The Habs 2nd rounder might be in the #34-#38 range. None of the three teams you mentioned will select before us (in the 2nd round) although Boston or Philly might use their 1st rounder on thsi kid.

    • savethepuck says:

      Discouraging to see that 8 of his top 12 are DMen. We have a lot of youthful depth there after the last few drafts. A team usually takes who they think is the best player available. I would love to see Trevor Timmins list tho.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

    • The Canadiens actually have some decent depth and prospects on defense so hopefully they won’t use their tried and true “we took the best player available” draft strategy. And half of Button’s top 6 are d-men. What I don’t understand is why Grigorenkois sitting at 7th. Even if we had the first overall pick I’d think long and hard about taking him over Yakupov.

    • gmur says:

      I see Grigorenko has slipped in that ranking… Have watched him several times and agree with the drop. Would not draft him first.

  24. TorontoHabsFan says:

    It would appear that this is how Gomez’ career with Montreal ends. Say what you will about his out-sized salary, but he always seemed classy and never was a player to complain or blame others for his shortcomings. His team mates all genuinely seem to like him.

    If he was making half his salary he’d be lauded on this site as a veteran leader on a young up-and-coming team. But such is the nature of a salary capped NHL.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Almost have to wonder if he wishes he had a do-over on that contract. I don’t realistically expect him to want less money, but he must realize how that contract could be what shortens his NHL career by 2-3 years.

      • TorontoHabsFan says:

        I hear ya, there are some instances where going for the sure money backfires on agents.

        When a player like Gomez loses a step, it’s deadly.

        I doubt any team would take him now. But if he had played the last two years on a $3.5m contract I could see him signing 1 & 2 yr deals well into his late 30s (like Arnott or Weight).

  25. 24 Cups says:

    I grew up a Hab fan but Gordie Howe was always a favourite of mine. I guess I’m not alone in that regard.

    http://www.thestar.com/sports/horseracing/article/1145453–hockey-and-horses-howe-great-moves-into-list-of-top-kentucky-derby-hopefuls

  26. savethepuck says:

    Good to see the results of the new poll question, but based on most of the comments on here over the last year bashing the guy, it sheds a little light on the bandwagon jumpers here. Wkat would the results of been 1 mth ago? 2 mths ago? 3 mths ago? He has had 100% of my support over the past 3 years. Not just because he is playing again, I knew that would eventually happen.

    “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
    Carey Price

    • twilighthours says:

      Man we all love the guy and want him to return to form but giving him 5.75 (or whatever) for 3 years was bad management. Simple as that. He is only worth that if he plays at his highest level for the duration of his contract. Since he’s missed a year of it and could very conceivably get hurt again, this deal doesn’t make sense.

      It’s about putting the best team on the ice.

      • savethepuck says:

        There are a lot of GMs who would of easily given him that contract. He was coming off I think a 6 year contract for the same money ( can’t look it up right now), that’s 9 years without a raise. I have not in the past or now, had any problem with his contract. If he hadn’t had 2 unforseen setbacks in his rehab, Nobody would be questioning it here.

        “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
        Carey Price

        • twilighthours says:

          It’s that word “unforeseen” that I take issue with. It wasn’t hard to imagine, back in June of last year, that this might happen again.

      • Cal says:

        Markov at 70% is better than 85-90% of Dmen in the league. This “bad management” criticism is unjustified in this case. Markov has been a Hab his entire career and has shown loyalty to the team without ever rocking the boat. Would you be happier if he were elsewhere, helping another team get to the Cup?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I can’t help but be skeptical of the NHL and how this case has been handled. Seems to me that the League has made some pretty big exceptions to a gray area of the rules in order to help Nashville, one of those Sunbelt/Southern States teams that Mr. Bettman so desperately wants to see succeed. Have to wonder if the same exceptions would have been granted to a Montreal, Vancouver type team.

      If Nashville gets him back in their lineup, they suddenly have a much more dangerous offensive attack.

      • 24 Cups says:

        I realize there are still a dozen games left this season, but it would appear that Nashville’s playoff opponents have already been decided. They will meet Detroit in the first round and then probably go up against St Louis in the second round. That would only change if Dallas wins their opening round.

        If the Atlantic is the strongest division in the East, then I think you would have to say that the Central is the toughest in the West. Some really good teams are going to be on the outside looking in come April 27th. Gives you an idea of where the Habs truly stand these days.

  27. HabsFansince49 says:

    On a different note, look at the clips of Tyler Myers check on Gomez and then Chara on Max Pac last year. Can someone explain the insanity of the NHL?

    • Cal says:

      Yes. They are incompetent jerks. The head of discipline for the longest time was the goon with the crappy name: Colon Campbell.
      Now, he’s been replaced by Shamahan, or “Hewhodoesnotrocktheboat”.
      The NHL does NOT get it.
      Look at the TV”analysts” the NHL gets. Mike Milbury, Don Cherry, PJ Stock, Nick Kypreos. It’s a complete joke.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Brendan Shanahan should see this post. You are so right in making the comparison.

  28. arcosenate says:

    “Tyler did a good job staying low and not getting his arms or elbows or anything out, but he put himself in a bad spot,” Ruff said. “Tyler had a split second to hold up and maybe could’ve done a little bit better job of holding up. … It’s careless, but at the same time I didn’t think there was any intent.” -Ruff.

    Why can’t a coach just tell the truth sometime? I understand sticking up for your players but when the league is working to get rid of concussions resulting from hits exactly like that one, giving your player a free pass makes it much harder to stop hits like this from happening.

    Just call it like it is, Myers had plenty of time to not make that hit, he chose to hit another player in a dangerous position and he deserved what he got. Maybe he’ll learn to not do it again.

    Ta Da! No big deal…

    • twilighthours says:

      I hear ya man, but this never happens. The only time I can recall, actually, is when bylsma threw Cooke under the bus after the mcdonagh hit. But then everyone was ready to lynch cooke.

      But you gotta love ruff. He is one of the best in the NHL. We’d be lucky to have him here.

      • arcosenate says:

        I know, but when the video obviously says something completely different why not not look like an idiot and just call it like it is, you know, Myers can’t be selfish like that in the middle of a playoff run. I hope he learns from this, blah, blah, blah…

  29. Kimberly2u says:

    Yeah the Leafs may just screw up our Lottery pick….they’ve gone downhill fast

  30. Corson27 says:

    The Laffs fall looks good on their fans and the Toronto media, I spent the whole season listening to them crap all over the Canadiens when they were flying high.

  31. 24 Cups says:

    Please keep in mind that Patrick Holland is a 20 year old junior, playing against young teenagers. As well, he’s on a line with two over aged WHL junior players who are in their fourth and fifth years. He also is more of a set-up man, not a goal scorer. Plays RW, a position where the Habs are well stocked. Holland still faces a pretty steep climb when it comes to the Hab depth chart.

    http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=622017&navid=DL|MTL|home

  32. stevieray says:

    Concussion ???…what about the ole ” upper body injury ” …for a team that is so tight lipped about injuries etc…. I’m taking this one with a grain of salt …although I feel bad for Gomez ..if you see the actual hit ..Gomez wasn’t aware of his surroundings ..and was clearly “watching” the puck with his head down ..
    His play and his recent injuries tell me the game has passed him by …
    This could be all a set up for him to ” retire ” at season’s end with
    ” reoccurring ” symtons from the hit .

    • boing007 says:

      Some analyst criticized Gomez for watching his pass. What’s wrong with that? I don’t think that he was ‘admiring his pass’ he was trying to decide what should be his next move. Then bam! Myers smashes him into the boards.

      Richard R

  33. twilighthours says:

    On an unrelated note, if any of you haven’t been following the tori stafford story, then please don’t start now. It’s horrific. And incredible that her two killers might someday walk freely again.

  34. 24 Cups says:

    The unofficial concussion count in the NHL is 25. Interesting that the GMs stated yesterday that basically everything is now in place to deal with this issue as the league moves forward. Maybe the NHLPA needs to step up during contract talks. After all, it’s their vested interest that really needs to be protected. Otherwise, having 30 players on the sidelines at any given point in time will be the norm. The Shanahan suspensions certainly don’t seem to be making an impact.

    http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/1145548–video-data-show-bad-hits-down-in-nhl-play-says-league-discipline-czar-brendan-shanahan

    Steven Stamkos has 50 goals in 69 games. The love affair with this great young talent continues. Talk about a building block for your franchise.

    One point separates five teams in the West for the final two playoff spots with just a dozen games to go. Could be a waste of time once the two winners have to face off against the powerhouses at the top. Bubbles, tiny bubbles.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWNSTNwClQY

    The entry draft sweepstakes continues for the Habs as they are one of eight teams in the running for a premier pick. No one is “catching” Edmonton or Columbus so Montreal is up against five other teams for the 3rd to 8th place rankings.

    Who might those eight players be? Yakupov, Grigorenko, Forsberg, Faska, Galchenyuk, Murray, Dumba and Trouba would seem to head the list.

    • AliHaba says:

      Seems like the Leafs are trying to steal our thunder again. They are the Habs little puppy dog….have to follow them everywhere they go.

      • twilighthours says:

        Remember when we hoped for a win in the last game of the season to keep the leafs out of the show? Now we might hope for a loss to stay behind them in the standings.

  35. twilighthours says:

    I almost feel bad for gomer. The horrid season, his career down the toilet, and now injuries.

    The heinous salary what is preventing me from feeling bad.

    • Marcusman says:

      As do I, if I were him and had that coin…I’d go play in Europe next year. I here Switzerland is beautiful…no pressure, no press…easy peasy.

    • RGM says:

      That comments says more about you than it does about Gomez.

      No amount of money in the world is worth going through the hell that a concussed person endures.

      ———————–
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      “Scott Gomez is an elite NHL player” – VancouverHab

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  36. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …My one comment(s) tonight (actually 4 AM PST :) ) will be a little eclectic, as in ‘all over the place’
    …first, for the future best interest of Our Montreal Canadiens in this business called the parity/cap-era of the NHL …making sure We get ‘what WE want’ in this July’s draft is of critical importance …especially not allowing the Weeds to get ‘what WE want’ in this July’s draft :)
    …second, neither Our Players nor Coach are programmed ‘to lose’ …They are not going to lay down and ‘lose’ because of any potential of improving Montreal’s interests in the draft …each Player’s and the Coach’s priorities are Their personal resumes and self-interests, not the Montreal Canadiens …as it should be, and I would never want Our Players nor Coach to contemplate tanking …but Our GM should be telling Randy Cunneyworth He wants to ‘evaluate’ the Geoffrions, Leblancs, Nokelainens, Whites, Bourques, Webers, Kaberles, Campolis et al for 2012/13 …in other words dramatically increase these Players TOI, and significantly reduce PK’s, Cole’s, Patches’, DD’s, Pleck’s, Markov’s, etc..
    …third, a draft-choice is never a ‘sure thing’ …even if the Weeds selected a choice before Us, there is the possibility We make the ‘right’ choice in fourth (for example), and the Weeds as usual make the ‘wrong’ choice with third selection …BUT !!!, I still rather, in this lost season from Hell, have ‘the odds’ stacked in Our favor to control Our own destiny by having to choose Top 2 to 3, than taking the chance that for once in a lifetime the Weeds do get lucky and select the next Malkin-clone
    …fourth, Andre Markov should under no circumstances be given pernission to play for Russia in the upcoming World Championships, considering the circumstances :)
    …fifth, Rob Klinkhammer !?! …WHO ??? …second line Senators ? …Ottawa has shown it does NOT necessarily take ‘years’ to rebuild a team in this era
    …Ben “Mr Big Stuff’ Bishop ? …the next great American-born NHL goalie ?

    _________________________________________________________
    HIS’ Official Habs’ Fan Theme Song: Morrissey ‘There is a light that never goes out’ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjObvIQtsLk&feature=related

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

    • AliHaba says:

      I think we all agree that the Habs have many assets and with the proper leadership can turn this ship around in a hurry.

      • HardHabits says:

        The operative words being proper leadership. The Habs are not succeeding IMO because of a failed business model. This is a team content with merely making the play-offs whose primary intent is keeping the seats filled and the fans placated with the once you make the play-offs anything can happen mantra.

        If the Habs had proper leadership they wouldn’t be squandering assets the way they do.

  37. AliHaba says:

    So what do you think? Have we seen the last of Gomez in a Habs’ uniform?

    • third generation haber says:

      The Gomez decision belongs to Molson alone. No GM in hockey would want this 7.5mil. cap hit on their roster. Imagine what we could get for that on the free-agent market!! (Or possibly how much better our team would be if we didn’t bother to replace this black-hole of a hockey player)

      But to answer your question, I know teams are not allowed to buy-out players when they are injured, so is it possible to send them to the AHL during a serious injury???

      Anybody know?

      j.p. murray

      • ffenliv says:

        It’s not entirely true that no GM would want it. This year more than last, his cap-hit substantially exceeds what he’d actually be paid, and with the cap going up, there’s a chance at finding someone to but. A perennial cap-floor team.

        One can dream, anyway.

  38. slamtherimtim says:

    Well better Gomer out than LL , i guess it was the plan , Gomer to Hamilton to rehab , for good

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      I’m not trying to be a smart ass or disrespect an injured player but if the concussion Gomez sufferd lingers on for the remainder of the season that could have been his last shift as a Hab.

  39. Old Bald Bird says:

    Has any coaching change this year other resulted in that mythical five game bump? I guess Hitchcock but that was permanent and not just a temporary lift.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Now I don’t claim to be an X’s and O’s guy and claim to know exactly what goes on behind the bench and in the dressing room with the coach. Heck, I haven’t played organized hockey since I was 13-years-old but I do believe I have a good sense of the different coaching styles.

      I don’t see Ken Hitchcock being much different than Jacques Martin except that Hitchcock gets better results. I think they basically coach they same style of hockey but Hitchcock’s teams have had better players and that’s why he’s been more successful.

      You put Hitchcock in Montreal or Toronto this year and I don’t think he’d have anymore success than Martin, Wilson, Carlyle or Martin.

      • habstrinifan says:

        The intangibles of coaching which come from the personality of the coach and weights the message and its acceptance by the players is a big determining factor in the success of a coach.

        Hitchcock, maybe because of his personal trials as he himself explained, apears to be a better communicator and also has admitted that, particularly in this go-around, he has re-educated himself on handling players etc. The x’s and o’s may be similar but the presentation is different.

        One cannot have heard of how JM handled Cammallieri’s private and earnest request to be the captain and not understand how bad a coach of young men JM was.

        JM’s ‘one of the boys’ participation in the degrading, gang-like mocking by the team (I particularly recoil that he would encourage the PUERILE and SPINELESS Lappierre in this) certainly destroyed his authority and spoke volumes of his own immaturity and insecurity and ability to command respect. And yes I often supported Lapierre’s hockey skills and hoped he was still here but he was juvenile.

        This episode; the Muller rejection; even his post-firing media appearances all add to my absolute disgust that we ever handed the coaching RESPONSIBILITY of the Canadiens to this man.

        If you lived in Ottawa and listened to JM during the Buffalo Ottawa playoff series you may understand.

  40. HabinBurlington says:

    With Bruins struggling it is very possible that Ottawa and Boston swap positions and suddenly the Bruins are a 6th or 7th seed. That would be nice.

  41. HabsFansince49 says:

    An injury is not a good thing, but Gomez’s absence may help the hapless Habs.
    On a different note, the Leafs lose again (they could only beat 1 team since the other RC took over). Does it mean that Burke may challenge Gauthier’s right to be named the worst GM in Canadian (as in Canada) sports history? Probably not. Burke would have to pass Gainey for that title.

    • fun police says:

      you’ve been a habs fan since 49 and you think gainey has been the worst gm? do you forget the glorious years of rejean houle? do you remember 1999-2000 when darby, zholtok, asham and ward graced their roster? gainey was far from perfect, but come on, the worst gm in sports history? have you heard that the leafs haven’t won a cup in a few years?

  42. HabinBurlington says:

    Is there any confirmation of what Moen is out with? Wasn’t there speculation that he too is suffering from a concussion? Seems to me like every roster in the NHL has 1-2 guys out with concussions this season.


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