Audio: GM Gauthier addresses Habs plans pre-draft


Canadiens general manager Pierre Gauthier, in a news briefing to reporters 24 hours before Friday’s first round of the NHL entry draft, said (paraphrased) that he wants to maintain his team’s stability and that he’ll draft the best player available, regardless of position, when it’s the Habs’ turn to choose at No. 17.

AUDIO: Pierre Gauthier (bilingual) | Jonathan Huberdeau | Sean Couturier


  1. pearson_tyler says:

    Anybody know anything about how/if negotiations with the Wiz are going/have started?

  2. SUMO says:

    Jan 7, 2012. A Saturday game vs TBL is the 41st game of the season and will mark the halfway point in Gomez’s 5-year tenure with the Habs! He’s half way there!!!

  3. PrimeTime says:

    Could it be that PG was playing hardball and told Meehan he was going to call a press conference to say that they can not come to terms and negotiations were over?? Meehan called the bluff until the last minute and PG had to then fill time. Deal was struck shortly after the presser.

    • Bugs says:

      Anything “could be”, I reckon.
      Maybe Markov was holding PG’s wife and kid hostage and demandin an 18-year deal and forcin the GM to go public with the news but just before the cameras went live, Jack Bauer found Markov’s lair and came bustin in with his Glock-VBR 7.92, releasing round after round of leaden armageddon, killin Markov’s hired thugs and forcin the mad Russian to surrender and finally puttin an end to the madness.
      Who knows?

      Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

    • Marc10 says:

      PG hates talking to the press. I imagine that worked out for him. That way he gets to avoid talking about Wiz or Hammer or the cap … for at least another day…

      “To be irreplaceable, you have to be different”.
      Andy Warhol

      Go PK Go!

  4. Ian Cobb says:

    Would you like to see Boston play at the Bell Center for the HIO Fan Summit game.? Sat. October 29.

    We will not see a Hab’s game on the Fri. night at Hurley’s pub as they play Boston in Boston on the Thursday previous.

    I will be asking for about 100 tickets! But I will let you know about the different sections and prices available to us for this game.

  5. LA Loyalist says:

    Here’s the LA Times link, guys, it’s not even on the front page of the sports section, you have to go to the Kings part. Anyway, here’s the direct link if you want to read the spin:

  6. Say Ash says:

    Is Wiz still possible?

  7. TomNickle says:

    $5.75 million annually per Renaud Lavoie

  8. Markov signed to a three-year, 17.25 M dollar contract.

    5.75 M cap hit per year. (According to Pierre LeBrun)

  9. ds says:

    In my opinion this team needs at least 1 excellent scorer (30 goals, 70 pts), and a 20 goal guy. Size isn’t important if there are enough options on offense.

    Boston & Vancouver, Philadelphia & Chicago all made the finals with a solid/decent top 4 defensemen and journeymen 5 & 6. Meanwhile all those teams had legitimate top 6s (Boston, Vancouver), or even top 9’s forwards (Chicago & Philadelphia).

    MTL on the other hand has 3 players who are threatening offensively, Camm, Pleks and Gionta plus a bunch of borderline players like Gomez, Eller, Kostitsyn, Moen, Pouillot, Darche etc. who have occasional good offensive games but nothing to rely on.

    If Stastny or any other top 6 player is available take them, the top 4 on D is solid enough that Price will make up any deficiency at #5 & #6.

    Spend the rest on getting some forwards who can actually take shots that have a chance of going in. (regardless of size)

    • TomNickle says:

      I’m sorry but Kostitsyn and Pacioretty are threats offensively.

    • Bugs says:

      Disagree about Eller.
      Not borderline. Very reliable. Always plays the same.
      Will make excellent defensive 3rd-line ctr. He’s a Plekanec D. Right on the money.
      Just not a Plekanec O.
      Sooner we come to terms with that, better will he appear.

      Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      size does count. Sorry. That said, I want to keep Desharnais, just we need to put some size with him.

    • Tony McLean says:

      Have expectations fallen so low that 30 goals is considered “excellent?” Yes it’s more than the 14 a year Koivu averaged but…

      Moen’s not an NHLer IMO, what’d he get, 8? Hands of stone and not that tough, White makes him redundant.

      “Rebuilding since 1979.”

      • ds says:

        30 goals on Montreal and 40 assists would be excellent on this team, and good enough for top 20 in the NHL. I doubt any of the top 10 guys are available anyway. Selanne, Ovechkin, St. Louis, Nash all had around 30 goals this year. Those are excellent players IMO. (Not that I expect any of them on MTL).

        And Max Pac has not proven himself at the NHL level yet. Hopefully he pans out as a top 6er but he put up the exact numbers Pouillot put up after he was acquired from the Wild. To say he’s a top left winger or top 2 is premature at this point. Andrei Kostitsyn is at best a 2nd line winger with 50 pts/yr and some size and flair. He’d be better off with Eller on the 3rd line where he won’t be counted on to put up big numbers.

        At the present time while Gionta, Cam, Plex, Gomez and Gill are not ancient this team needs to surround them with a few more proven players to make a push for the cup. Boston won the cup they weren’t the best team this year but they came together at the right time and had a hot goalie. Montreal can do the exact same thing with a couple of offensive threats the other team will respect.

        Also Size doesn’t matter if you got 3 lines that can score what will the opposition coach do. That’s the exact reason Buffalo post lockout used to dominate Philadelphia putting up 8 goals on several occasions. Briere, Drury and Roy down the middle, Afingenov, Pominville, Vanek etc they had a great top 9. MTL should mimic that stratagy. Same thing with Chicago last year, if it wasn’t Toews it was Kane or Buff or Bolland or Hossa etc.

        JM’s rope-a-dope strategy has a lot of luck involved in it.

        Desharnais OTOH is

  10. TomNickle says:


    • LA Loyalist says:

      You trust those guys?

      Seriously that is FANTASTIC (how fantastic depends on $ but anything around $15/$16 M is fair and the hard reality of the market place.

      A healthy Markov, a healthy Pax! Now go sign Gorges and Wizzer!!!!!

  11. Habs sign Markov to a three year deal.

    According to Canadiens official twitter account, confirmed by Pierre LeBrun.

    • toinz says:

      this made me laugh out loud. If the Habs official twitter account says it, its doesnt need to be confirmed by anybody because that is official confirmation.

  12. SeriousFan09 says: report that Andrei Markov has signed a 3-year deal with the team. That means his deal will expire along with Gomez’s (if still here), Gionta’s and Cammalleri’s at the conclusion of the 2013-14 NHL season.

    No $ details yet, or I would have posted ’em.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
    SF09 on Twitter

    • TomNickle says:

      I’m thinking it will be cap friendly for that kind of term.

    • Bugs says:

      Throw ALL those sumbastiches out, I say!
      …but get us a Cup first.
      Good lads.

      Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

    • habs78 says:

      Super stoked about Markov re-signing!

    • Marc10 says:

      Sweet. The D is nearly full.

      I would hate to play poker against PG… I really liked his answer on Jagr. He didn’t give the game away and didn’t allow #68 to use expressions of interest to bolster his market value. He also didn’t comment one way or the other on Jagr’s performance at the Worlds with Pleks… Smart.

      Interesting move by Philly. Not sold on Voracek, but Schenn is a great player and the Briz is as solid as they come. A lot will hinge on the health and level of play of Pronger for this team. They’re in trouble (at least this first year) if he’s not playing his 20+ mins a game.

      “To be irreplaceable, you have to be different”.
      Andy Warhol

      Go PK Go!

  13. Talik Sanis says:

    Fairly tight-lipped, as I predicted. I imagine and hope he’s just displaying shrewdness, but why call the conference at all then?

  14. Rugger says:

    Two years ago, the Habs completely retooled the team, let’s give it a chance. The first year they go to the conf finals, 2nd year points go up considerably.

  15. SeriousFan09 says:

    Quote from Gauthier in the Presser”Our policy isn’t to deny or confirm rumours… We announce things once we’ve accomplished something.”

    That I like, none of this self-aggrandizing look at me nonsense Burke pulls in TO, if you actually have gotten something done, say so, otherwise spare us details of “I’d like the 1st overall pick” or “Well we’d certainly like to trade for a 50-goal scorer and it will be coming soon if it all works out.”

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
    SF09 on Twitter

    • TomNickle says:

      I like it too and if I had one criticism of Bob Gainey it was that I was very sick of hearing what he wanted to acquire.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Agreed, I support Gauthier’s methodology, whatever our circumstances. One Burke is plenty.

      That said, we are not exactly sitting in the cat-bird seat with fat assets and picks falling out of our pockets, so what other picture can he paint? The worrying thing is the moves other teams are making around us….

      • TomNickle says:

        Don’t sell them short Brad. If they announced to the hockey world that Leblanc, Tinordi, Kristo, Palushaj and Pateryn were available the doors would get blown off. Ditto for Cammalleri, Plekanec, Gionta, Pacioretty, Subban, Price, Eller and I think even Weber, Pouliot and Kostitsyn, although to a lesser extent with them.

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        Other teams can make moves but it doesn’t mean they’re the right ones. At present, better to let our farmhands ply their trade, develop while making astute choices in the 2011 draft and build on the process of choosing quality names like the last 3 seasons. 2007 was a windfall, MTL needs to continue that trend.

        We have two elite two-way defencemen under contract. Josh Gorges, a top shutdown defencemen is RFA but almost certainly signed. Hal Gill, PK man extraordinare and mentor, Alexei Yemelin our bruiser from the KHL and Yannick Weber, developing puck-mover. We have Carey Price to man the nets, which is about as good as you can get for goaltending these days.

        Lars Eller is a C on a pretty good development track, Max Pacioretty is the PF we’ve wanted for years. Pleks, Cammy, Gio are the strong veteran forwards who give all they have. We have White as a grinder/enforcer as well now. HAM is about to get a windfall with Nattinen, Leblanc joining the squad as they lose bodies as well. Kristo should enjoy a dominant year at UND and best of all, Brendan Gallagher has an inside track to make Canada’s WJC squad while Michael Bournival is in the mix there as well and the team he captains the Shawinigan Cataractes are going to be hosting the next Memorial Cup. Tinordi has an invite to the US WJC camp as well and should be a step ahead with London this season.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
        SF09 on Twitter

        • LA Loyalist says:

          thank you for all your hard work, by the way, Serious. We’d all be even more wildly speculative if you weren’t around to keep us on the straight and narrow 🙂

          I don’t want to trade any of our kids, of course not all of them will pan out, but that’s that correct way to build the team.

          We just need to be patient.

  16. TomNickle says:

    Some of you don’t think he said a thing. I think he said a lot.

    “We’re confident about what players we like being available at #17”.

    That means almost to a certainty that like last year, the player the team wants isn’t expected to be drafted prior to their selection. They really like a couple of players who are flying under the radar. Joe Morrow, Nicklas Jensen, Joel Armia?

    He wants to give the group stability and allow them to grow together. Translation: We aren’t going to trade young core players away for a superstar. Subban, Pacioretty, Price and Eller aren’t going anywhere.

    What do you feel is the piece you need to get over the top? I don’t want to show our hand.

    Translation: We’re pursuing players via the trade market but would rather not announce to the Leafs, Bruins, Senators and Sabres who those players are and what type of player it is that we’re after.

    • scrowe21 says:

      “We’re confident about what players we like being available at #17″.

      Every team should be confident about what players that are available at their pick in the draft.. If not, they’re doing it wrong. Any GM is gunna say that.

      • TomNickle says:

        Not necessarily. If you were picking between #25 and #30 you’d probably be pretty nervous about what will be left over for you to pick from at that spot. Which is why everyone’s favourite loud mouth is saying he wants to get out of his picks.

    • habs03 says:

      Also a reporter asked him about cap space, and he basically said that they can make cap space if needed easily. I guess that means their is a market for someone like Spacek or Gomez if needed.

      • LA Loyalist says:

        If needed? Where does the IF come in to it? IF we could move Gomez and Spacek this year for NOTHING and free up their cap space get them off our books that would be worth opening the Champagne! Oh my god I’m wetting myself just thinking about it. Or is that TMI 🙂

  17. TorontoHabsFan says:

    Setoguchi re-signs with SJ – $9 for 3 yrs. Seems a bit high to me (but not by much – like $250k/yr.)

  18. petefleet says:

    So long as the best player available is bigger than the rest of our forwards, I’m OK with that statement. At some point the Habs have got ot add size down the middle.

    ***Habs Forever***

  19. Bugs says:

    Meet the new boss; same as the old boss…
    “Naaah-ting. We wait for talk to dis man, and he give us naaah-ting.”

    Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

    • RobertAlanFord says:

      Too many changes can hurt a team more than help it. We’re on the right track right now. Sure theres some tweaking here and there to be done but anything blockbuster is not in the deck………for now.

      -When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro-

      • Bugs says:

        I don’t want “changes”; I want our new GM to SAY sumpin that’ll allow me to read amazing subtext between the lines without havin to listen to’m read paragraph one of chapter one of “Your Cliches and You”.

        Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

  20. scrowe21 says:

    Pretty much exactly what I expected from PG. We learned nothing..why even bother with the press conference.

  21. mrhabby says:

    rumour central.

    flyers offer richards to burke for kuleemen and kadri burke says no way and richards goes to LA…thats de truth.

  22. habsfansince91 says:

    Can anyone summarize what Gauthier said in the conference? The audio doesn’t work for me.

    • Chris says:

      A bunch of reporters asking what we are all talking about and getting non-chalant answers lol. He said he has not heard of anything from Jagr. He is comfortable with our position but realizes the players need to come together like other teams. And that it doesnt matter when a deal gets done, it matters that the deal is good/ Beneficial for both parties. And he will not show is cards right now.

      quite the poker face!

    • Captain aHab says:

      The number 17 pick is almost as good as picks 1-7….no 2nd round pick but he considers Bournival, obtained last year, as that 2nd rounder.

    • Captain aHab says:

      I wonder why they bother doing these year after year. They should just tell the reporters to use last year’s audio.

    • mrhabby says:

      in other words he is doing squat.

      • Captain aHab says:

        He’s not even committing to doing squat. I’m sure we’ll get the:

        “signing Markov is our big veteran player addition at the draft”


  23. LA Loyalist says:

    Guys this will crack you up. I just checked (4 pm PST, 7 pm EST) and the Philly / Kings deal isn’t even posted online yet.

    LA. The puck stops here.

  24. Chris says:

    Flyers interested in brad richards. (they might not have to sell mike richards jerseys half price) lol

    Calgary wants Webber out of buffalo

    And the leafs are going to make a Even bigger deal.


    that guy is a tool

  25. priceberg says:

    I honestly think this team wont make any drastic changes i really belive we are gonna be stuck watching darche and moen spiltting time as our top 6 forwards i guarntee that so dont get your hopes up thinking PG is gonna make a big splash never happens…..

    Patches no homer gomer gio
    cammy plecks darche/ moen
    desharnais eller kostitsyn
    white ________ moen/darche

    markov gorges
    gill subban
    hammer spackec
    emelin weber diaz


    • JayBee says:

      I really hope you’re wrong but history tells me you’re absolutely right. You really have to have balls to be a successful GM…I’ll leave it at that (and no, I’m not talking about going out and making impossible trades).

  26. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Nieuwendyk made a HUGE tactical error not trading Richards in March. Now he gets to watch him walk away for nothing.

    • TomNickle says:

      Nieuwendyk had no control over whether or not he could trade Richards.

      • _Habsoloutly_ says:

        The rumour is he asked Richards for a list of teams he would consider waiving his NTC for and was in discussions with certain teams, one of which was New York. Nieuwendyk ultimately nixed that scenario on the premise a new stable ownership would be in place in time for the Stars to resign Richards. None of that panned out and now Nieuwendyk loses him for nothing. He should’ve been proactive and shipped him out. IMO of course.

    • savethepuck says:

      At the trade deadline the Stars had just fallen out of 3rd overall in the West. What kind of statement are you making to your team and your fans if you dump your top player for prospects in that situation.

      “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

  27. TorontoHabsFan says:

    So last year when goalies were going for bargain basement prices, Philly does nothing and goes with two journeymen and a rookie.

    Then after losing a playoff series because 1) their goaltending sucked and 2) Pronger was injured they trade away their two most important offensive pieces for 3 decent young players who *may* end up being as good as the ones they trades away and signed a goalie for a gajillion years?

    Man, Philly better hope that Giroux and Briere can step out of their supporting cast roles and lead that team. Otherwise it’s gonna be a loooong decade in Philly.

    I never want to hear about the supposed ineptitude of Gauthier ever again 😀

    • mbplekfan says:

      1st rounder, 2nd rounder and a 3rd rounder. Nice extra picks to have when you have cap space and need to add a player.

    • Chris says:

      You are overlooking that they got out from under $11 million in combined cap hit for Carter, who has obtained a choker label and had issues in the Flyers dressing room, and Richards.

      In the process, they picked up a guy who might be the best player not currently in the NHL (Schenn), a bona fide 22 year old power forward prospect (Simmonds), a bona fide 21 year old scoring winger prospect (Voracek) and some valuable draft picks, including a first round pick that could be turned into a decent contributor within a year or two for a team that has drafted reasonably well.

      They also freed up the money to solve their biggest weakness (goaltending) and sign some of the character veterans (Hartnell, Leino) that might have walked otherwise.

      They also freed up roles for vanRiemsdyk and Giroux, who are poised to become stars.

      That’s a lot of birds with a couple of stones. It is a roll of the dice, no question, but it could pay HUGE dividends.

      Giroux, Schenn, Voracek, Simmonds and vanRiemsdyk is an impressive group, on paper. And they’ve got a solid, veteran defence corps and goaltender to backstop those guys as they mature.

      • TorontoHabsFan says:

        Right, they freed up $11m in cap space, and promptly turned around and ate up half of it. Trade Carter sure, but why trade Richards? It doesn’t make much sense to me.

        I dunno…all three of those players may one day be as good as Carter and Richards currently are. Voracek could just as easily turn into A. Kostitsyn v.2. It’s an enormous risk, and not one I would think is necessary.

        (Of course Richards, Carter, Giroux, vanRiemsdyk, and Briere are a pretty impressive group on ice :D)

    • savethepuck says:

      “we want to get better now”. Yeah probably to save your job, the rebuild is going kinda slow. Maybe he can do us another favor and give the Bruins a few more lottery picks over the next 3 years.

      “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

  28. Bripro says:

    Let’s see who won (by the way, I’m no walking stat jockey, I just googled the info) :

    PHILLY TRADED: Richards ( 122 goals, 349 points in last 5 of 6 seasons ), Carter ( 181 goals, 343 pts in last 5 of 6 seasons, not too shabby, but collapses in the playoffs ), Bordson ( 23 years old, WCHA, no NHL experience).

    THEY GOT BACK: Voracek (21 years old, Columbus’ 8th pick overall 2007, 39 goals, 134 points in 3 seasons), Schenn ( 19 years old, 5th pick overall 2009, impact at World Junior Championships, 116 goals, 315 points in 224 games in WHS ), Simmonds ( 22 years, 61st pick 2007, 14 goals, 30 points last year for kings ), 2nd round pick 2012 but mostly, this year’s 8th overall from Columbus.
    And then they signed Brysgalov.

    I think if their new star goalie plays to his ability, I’m not sure it’ll be enough. They’re faster now, but not as tough.
    They look more like the Habs than the broad street bullies.

  29. Propwash says:

    So, there’s a mushroom cloud emanating from the vicinity of Philthydelphia. Interesting.

  30. MathRocks says:

    I don’t think the Flyers are showing Richards any respect.

  31. Chris says:

    Jagr would be interested in playing with Pleks, Did gomez not play with Jagr? Because i wouldnt pay over 1.5 for him. But there are 2 players he has played with before. Pleks > Gomez though

    • savethepuck says:

      Jagr played with Gomez in NY and from what I’ve heard, it didn’t go too well.

      “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

    • Bill J says:

      Jagr did play with Gomez. It apparently was not good chemistry. Not that I care what Gomez thinks given the production imbalance to his salary.

      But, Petr Svoboda (ex Habs player) who is Jagr’s agent said that it was him who approached Montreal, and that PG showed no real interest.

      • savethepuck says:

        I’ve heard a couple of posters here say that PG showed no interest but I haven’t heard anything concrete about it. Jagr still hasn’t signed anywhere.

        “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

  32. Shiloh says:

    The Flyers (who I hate) really came out well. They have been starved for decent goaltending – and Bryzhkalov is one of the best – but they needed the cap room to sign him. Then they dealt Kenora’s Mike (no respect) Richards and perennial trade bait Jeff Carter and came out of it with Braden Schenn, the #8 overall pick – and Simmonds. Wow – they kept Bryshkalov and grabbed some pretty nice pieces in the process.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Still, signing a goalie until he’s 40 with a massive cap hit? Bryzgalov has not proven himself in playoffs thus far and that’s a gigantic commitment if it doesn’t work.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

    • LA Loyalist says:

      They got Schenn? That’s unbelievable.

      Good thing we got rid of Halak while the goalie market was bad.

      We can’t just “stay the course” Boston, Philly, Tampa, Buffalo, Ottawa… everyone else is working hard to improve, we can’t just sit here on our keesters.

      Where is the poster that used to walk down the dark alleys with Gainey? Did he bail on us? Or just change his tag line? That shouldn’t be allowed.

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        Philly had two core players to their team, arguably on the level of importance of PK/Price and decided these guys were just not working for them, personality-wise or play-wise and they needed to reshape. We haven’t reached that point with our guys. Price, PK, Patches, Eller are all seen as future parts of a talented core that packs size and grit. And I hope we never do reach that point where a massive uplift is necessary b/c our core players aren’t working out.

        Really Loyalist, you mention OTT in the same breath? They have 6th overall in this draft and a badly aging offensive core except Spezza, who severely lacks intensity and have yet to prove they can draft well. We are further back in our core building process than BOston or Philly, Tampa I say we are on even keel with them despite us not having lottery picks and let’s not forget, their goalie is 41-42 and their D after Hedman is rather pitiful trending to the future. Buffalo, Myers, Ennis all well and good but their core of forwards has the same size issues ours do.

        MTL has to carefully build now, develop the farm and build up the core so when the time is right in 12-13, 13-14, they can start making the real final moves towards building a Cup-Contender team.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
        SF09 on Twitter

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I would never trade Mike Richards. As much as a hab fan I don’t like him he is the exact player that most NHL franchises would love to have. He is physical and can light the lamp with leadership skills.

      Schenn is good in Junior…so was Pouliot

  33. Chris says:

    Not sure if this is posted but Brad Richards agent said he will not waive his NTC.

  34. Stuck_in_To. says:

    Bit of a sidebar really, but I enjoyed a good chuckle that Darren Dreger, a TSN “Hockey Insider”, declared within the past 24 hours that a Carter trade just was not going to happen since Philly would not want to lose him. Mumble, mumble some of the same Carle and Versteeg stuff we kept hearing.

    So keep posting boys, we are as likely to be right as the media! ; )

  35. Looks like it was true. Apparently, there were some serious locker room issues in Philly. Mind blown..

  36. HalifaxHabs says:

    wow… wtf…

    I’m not surprised about Carter, but the Richards move floors me.

  37. HabFanSince72 says:

    Here’s what I don’t get.

    Trading Carter and Richards for prospects and picks – OK, they apparently had issues.

    But then why the Bryzgalov panic signing?

    If you thought Bryz was the missing piece of the puzzle for this year, the signing makes sense. But then you don’t ditch two other pieces of the puzzle that were already in place.

    • TomNickle says:

      Snider was reported to be the one pulling the strings on Bryzgalov. Laviolette and Richards allegedly haven’t been getting along.

      The Bryzgalov signing ends a 20 year period of frustration at a position for the entire franchise and fan base.

      I maintain that Voracek will prove to produce more offensively on that team than Carter did and that the Columbus deal will prove to be a homerun for Philadelphia.

      The Los Angeles deal I’m not sure about.

    • avatar_58 says:

      The leafs do the same thing every year. “THE FUTURE” they scream, then trade away picks for a player that barely makes any significant impact (ie – the playoffs).

      • TomNickle says:

        The Flyers got two proven NHLers who are up and coming stars. They also got the best hockey prospect alive and the 8th overall pick of this draft, a second rounder, and a third rounder.

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          ” the best hockey prospect alive ”

          As I said there are players players his age and younger that are better, they’re just not “prospects”: Tavares, Duchenne, Hedman Evander Kane from his year; Jeff Skinner, Taylor Hall, Tyler Seguin from last year.

          So, maybe the best 19 year old not yet good enough to play in the NHL.

          Remember even after Kopitar went down the Kings did not recall him.

          • TomNickle says:

            Him not being in the NHL yet doesn’t make him less valuable. He projects as a high end two way centreman, very much like Richards.

            The Flyers will be loving this day in five years. Maybe as early as next year.

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            “Him not being in the NHL yet doesn’t make him less valuable.”

            Yes Tom, it does.

            He’s not in the NHL because he’s not as good.

          • TomNickle says:

            Many GM’s would rather have him than Evander Kane and even Tavares to be quite honest. Tavares hasn’t shown a dedication to improve his speed and just seems content with the player he is.

            Do you really believe that Brayden Schenn wouldn’t be in the NHL if he were the property of the Winnipeg franchise? Do you believe that he wouldn’t be in the NHL if he were an Islander or Panther?

            He was part of an organization that was able to nurse his development in Los Angeles where Kopitar and Stoll have been doing a fine job.

          • SeriousFan09 says:

            How motivated would you be if you were stuck on the NYI? There’s one kid who probably can’t wait until UFA.

            Many prospects reach the NHL first because of physical maturity or their game doesn’t need as much development. Cam Barker hit the NHL before Alex Goligoski but Goligoski today is a more valuable player.

            – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
            SF09 on Twitter

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            Sorry Tom but neither of us know what most GMs think about the relative merits of Tavares and Schenn.

            And as far as LA taking their time with rookies – look no further than their top pick the year before Schenn.

          • TomNickle says:


            Brayden Schenn is again, widely considered to be the best prospect in hockey. Evander Kane isn’t lighting the world on fire and Tavares is a one-dimensional player.

            You can argue the merits of being in the minors or CHL versus being in the NHL until you’re blue in the face but as I and Robert have explained to you, organizational need and the convenience of having his role filled play a bigger part in his development track than how much better or worse he is than the players you mentioned.

            The Kings haven’t needed him in the lineup, the Thrashers or Islanders would have had him in their lineups for the last two years if he’d been chosen by them.

            He’s easily the best two way player in his draft class right now and the merits of Tavares or Kane don’t change that.

    • Stuck_in_To. says:

      Brian Burke must be crapping himself.

      I am not surprised by this. I’d be happy to see Carter in a Habs jersey but I think most pundits thought he’d be a consistent 30-40 goal scorer and that has not panned out. Nor does he have much of a profile in the playoffs.

      I am a little more surprised with Richards trade though I love what they got for him. But maybe Richards is not easy to deal with or coach. I don’t particularly like him, maybe neither do the Flyers.

      Couple that with Briere’s playoff performance, Claude Giroux any day of the week and perhaps that is why all this happened.

    • Mr_MacDougall says:

      I think the Bryzgalov deal is crazy. Now I may be crazy for thinking they made a rational decision getting rid of Richards and Carter.

      Briere and Giroux have produced significantly better in the playoffs than Richards and Carter. JVR was a goal scoring machine in this seasons playoffs, so they have him “penciled in” for the future. There is no way they would be able to keep the young Flyers talent long term with Richards and Carter and decided thay their young talent was more valuable.

      In addition to freeing up money for a much needed goaltender, they added three high end young talented players and two draft pick (one being a first rounder).

    • Bripro says:

      The Flyers needed the cap space to sign Bryz or risk losing him also.
      The acquired the rights to negotiate with him, but it expires July 1.
      We’ll see whether taking away their star captain and replacing him
      with a Vezina candidate will work.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        We will also see if adding Voracek and Simmons, and improvements by Van Reimsdyk and Giroux will offset the loss of Richards and Carter.

  38. Bouleau noir says:

    Homer have my head spinning again with this serial trades, salary cap or not the Flyers remained the most pro-active Organization in hockey by a long shot….. usually pretty good at the draft too… which is a most, if you want to be an active trader and all.

  39. johnny_habs_4ever says:

    I would love to have Wayne Simmonds on the Habs.

    Oh wait, he’s what.


  40. Mr_MacDougall says:

    Playoff stats with Flyers
    The Flyers playoff point totals from the Big Four”

    Dan Briere 57GP 29G 30A 59Pts

    Claude Giroux 40GP 13G 25A 38Pts

    Mike Richards 63GP 16G 34A 50Pts

    Jeff Carter 47GP 13G 8A 21Pts

    Note that Briere has as many playoff goals as Richards and Carter combined!

    I think the Bryzgalov deal is crazy, but the new direction for PHI may make them a better team.

    • Critical-MASS says:

      ….lol….doubt it. Flyer fans must be livid!

      …..You’ll never get to heaven if you’re scared of getting high…..

      • TomNickle says:

        Sorry buddy. The Flyers just fleeced the Kings and the Jackets. Absolutely fleeced them.

        They just got a player in Schenn who is widely considered the best prospect in all of hockey(those guys usually pan out) and Wayne Simmonds.

        They traded Carter for a player of equal talent who will easily replicate Carter’s numbers in Philadelphia. Plus a top ten draft pick.

        The Flyers pulled a coup today.

        • Critical-MASS says:

          Naw buddy …..Richards is a gem.Traded for unproven talent is always risky.Granted simmonds is good and young and has lots of room to grow but richards is not old either.Schenn hasnt proven anything yet.

          Im sorry but Voracek is not at the same talent level as Carter.Carter is a legitamite 40+ goal a year guy.If he’s healthy.Voracek will NEVER score like he can.Sure the flyers got a top pick but they’ll mess that up too like they do everything else….buddy.

          …..You’ll never get to heaven if you’re scared of getting high…..

          • TomNickle says:

            Carter had six more points in his first three seasons than Voracek had in his first three. Care to compare rosters over those periods?

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          Carter and Voracek are not equal.

          • TomNickle says:

            You’re right, Voracek has more upside.

          • Critical-MASS says:

            Tom Nickle and Paul Holmgren should hang out sometime seeing as how both of them are idiots.But 2 wrongs dont make a right.

            …..You’ll never get to heaven if you’re scared of getting high…..

          • Mr_MacDougall says:

            I don’t think it is about Carter and Voracek being equal, it is about Carter and Richards being expendable with Giroux and Briere being studs in the playoffs. Freeing up space to keep Giroux and JVR in the furure. Adding Schenn seems to be an exciting addition.

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          Another thing: Schenn is the best prospect only because he’s still a prospect while many in his draft class are established players.

          He was drafted the same year as Tavares, Duchenne, Hedman and Evander Kane. They are all better than him – they’re just not called “prospects” anymore because they are good enough to play in the NHL.

          • TomNickle says:

            Does that make him less valuable? That they’re NHLers?

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            They are NHLers because they are better than him.

            If the ranking was best 18 and 19 year olds rather than best prospects he would be behind them, as well as Skinner, Hall and Seguin.

          • SeriousFan09 says:

            If Schenn was drafted by ATL, likely they’d already have him in the NHL, but they took Kane so he was used to fill out their inablity to spend cash and use prospects, same case as for Alex Burmistrov this year.

            Making the NHL first doesn’t make you better. Duncan Keith was not the first D from 2002 to make the show, he is without question the best of them though. Bobby Ryan not an NHLer until 2008-2009, he’s a hell of a lot better than Gilbert Brule.

            – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
            SF09 on Twitter

          • LA Loyalist says:

            Guys come back to earth. These guys are all very young. It’s ridiculous to make definitive statements about who will be better than who eventually. Within the range of those guys you are naming they are all fantastic hockey players, the variables will be how well and fast they mature, how they are handled by their pro teams, and their personalities – there are no guarantees.

            Look at us and Sergei Kostitsyn. Us and Latendresse, Us and Pouliot. Us and Eller. Give us any of these guys and we can pretty much guaranty we’ll f*ck them up good. Service compris.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        I disagree with Carter being pegged a perennial 40 goal scorer.. I’d say 30.

        • Critical-MASS says:

          whatever a 30 goal scorer ….he potted 46 one year.He’s a big number 1 center who can fly and score with the best of them.Those guys dont come along every day.

          …..You’ll never get to heaven if you’re scared of getting high…..

          • TomNickle says:

            Who can fly? Do you watch hockey?

          • Mr_MacDougall says:

            I am not suggesting that Carter is terrible, but i wouldn’t trade Subban or Price for him that’s for sure. I think the Flyers prefer Briere and Giroux over Richards and Hartnell. With JVR up and coming, Simmons is a grinder with hands.. who knows what Schenn will do.. i think they are correct when they assessed that Carter was expendable.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      We’ll have to see how in pans out but wow…pretty tough trading away two of the best Canadian born players in the league.

      Schenn should turn out to be a beauty but Voracek for Carter…yuck.

      “I had the idea that I should beat up every player I tangled with, and nothing ever convinced me it wasn’t a good idea.”
      Ted Lindsay

      • TomNickle says:

        There is a six point difference between their first three seasons…..Voracek and Carter.

        Voracek’s skills are better and Carter plays a more North American game. This is why I call it a wash. Voracek can pass the puck with the best of them and Carter has a better shot.

        Let’s just say that even if they aren’t a wash, they’re close enough that Columbus shouldn’t have included a 1st and a 3rd round pick.

      • Mr_MacDougall says:

        If the Flyers had kept Richards and Carter do you think they would have been able to keep Giroux and JVR down the road? I think the promise of those young guys, along with the amazing playoff heroics of Briere led to their decision. With that being said, they got great value for high end, signed talent with a reasonable cap hit, in Richards and Carter. In return, Schenn, Simmons, Voracek and and 8th overall pick.. not too bad for guys the management “needed” off the books to hang on to their young assests.

  41. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …yesterday I suggested The HIO Gang re-visit and do a re-draft for 2007 and 2008 …apparently with no-takers :((
    …BUT !, speaking of The Devil, …Tim Wharnsby on today revisits the 2003 NHL Draft
    …I won’t review the real draft of 2003, but according to votes of selected NHL scouts, the following, for what it is worth, is how they would select the 2003 crop in 2011 (8 years later):

    1. Eric Staal 236 votes (2nd overall)
    2. Ryan Getzlaf 229 (19th)
    3. Shea Weber 221 (2nd round, 49th)
    4. Corey Perry 212 (28th)
    5. Ryan Kesler 195 (23rd)
    6. Zach Parise 190 (17th)
    7. Mike Richards 184 (24th)
    8. Patrice Bergeron 177 (2nd,round, 45th)
    9. Ryan Suter 175 (7th)
    10. Marc-Andre Fleury 17 (1st )
    11. Brent Seabrook 169 (14th)
    12. Loui Eriksson 155 (2nd round, 33rd)
    13. Thomas Vanek 146 (5th)
    14. Jeff Carter 140 (11th)
    15. David Backes 126 (2nd round, 62nd)
    16. Dustin Brown 124 (13th)
    17. Nathan Horton 112 (3rd)
    18. Brent Burns 100 (20th)
    19. Dion Phaneuf 96 (9th)
    20. Dustin Byfuglien 94 (8th round, 245th)
    21. Joe Pavelski 79 (7th round, 205th)
    22. Braydon Coburn 72 (8th)
    23. Tobias Enstrom 55 (8th round, 239th)
    24. Jaroslav Halak 43 (9th round, 271st)
    25. Milan Michalek 40 (6th)
    26. Jimmy Howard 30 (2nd round, 64th)
    27. Mark Giordano 28 (free agent)
    28. Matt Carle 21 (2nd round, 47th)
    29. Matt Moulson 19 (9th round, 263rd)
    30. Antti Niemi 17 (free agent)

    …relevant to Our Habs; are Andrei K, picked 10th is not in the Top 30, and J. Halak, picked 271st would now be picked 24th

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

    • Critical-MASS says:

      Hmm,interesting.But I’d take Getzlaf over Staal.Really it s a tossup though.And Phaneuf is slightly ahead of Dustin Byfuglien???Pffff.Please ….Dion should be 10 spots behind big buff and buff should be higher than that anyways.

      …..You’ll never get to heaven if you’re scared of getting high

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Yikes. I’d trade anyone on our club, besides Subban and Price for a good chunk of that list!

  42. Critical-MASS says:

    3 words, 5 syllables…..

    Paul Holmgren: MORON!

    • PrimeTime says:

      He just did what Ed Snyder wanted him to do. “Get me a goalie!!”
      Holmgren will be fired in 2 years for being caught between a rock and a hard place.

  43. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Philly must have another move in the works. This whole thing reeks of cap space clearing to make room for another move.

  44. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    I wonder if Richards will get the proper amount of “respect” in the western conference?

  45. grid77 says:

    do we NEED markov? how can we trade him for a high draft pick? sign and trade? we’ve got PK and i think we should re-sign wiz.

    • Critical-MASS says:

      Ya man we need Markov.People forget just because he hasnt played much in the last 2 seasons just how good of a d-man he is.Wake up dude!

      …..You’ll never get to heaven if you’re scared of getting high…..

      • grid77 says:

        oh im wide awake..and what ive been seeing is PK turning into a bonafide star….and markov turning into an injury-prone multi-millionaire who seems expendable. im just wondering if the reward is worth the risk with markov.

        • Critical-MASS says:

          lets be fair to Markov here.I’d say his injuries were more of a bad luck thing than a guy getting too old and frail to withstand the physicality of the NHL.Pk is gonna be a superstar.But we cant just let markov go away for nothing.He can make our club much better.

          …..You’ll never get to heaven if you’re scared of getting high…..

          • grid77 says:

            yeah that was an awful stretch of bad luck he had there. but, two body-checks and two horrific knee injuries later..who knows what level hes going to be playing at? not likely going to be a perennial all-star anymore. and what kind of contract is he going to want?

    • LA Loyalist says:

      … IF we had to trade Markov (which I would not) but just to address your point – you would want to maximize your return (unless you are Bob Gainey or Pierre Gauthier, but that’s another story) and thus you would want him to come back, play great, prove he’s as strong and good as ever, and then trade him to a playoff team at the deadline.

      Trading him now would be as dumb as trading Halak for a kid who should have been in Hamilton all last year. Oh crap, we did that…

      I’m not saying Eller won’t be decent eventually, but he and Poo both needed more development and we blew it.

  46. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …whoa ! …Holmgren is a gunslinger not shy to pull the trigger, isn’t he ? …Carter …AND Richards ! …for a yet unsigned Brysgalov
    …whether they sign Brysgalov or not, they certainly received talent in return, and loads of longterm cap flexibility
    …I feel good for Nash …such exceptional talent in an ‘outpost’ like Columbus, and little support …Carter and Nash will make music together

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

  47. J_P says:

    Maybe philly made good moves, maybe they made bad moves. Only time will tell.

    At least its entertaining! Im sure its going to be a very quiet summer for the habs.

    • Critical-MASS says:

      Would you rather goats trade the franchise in price and subban like holmgren did with carter and richards just for a little excitement??I dont think so.

      …..You’ll never get to heaven if you’re scared of getting high…..

  48. Talik Sanis says:

    I expect Gautier to be tight-lipped, dull and uninformative about his plans to not make any moves to improve the team trough trade or free agency.

    Prove me wrong, PG, prove me wrong. I’m coming down off my high of Philadelphia’s trades. I need another fix.

    • PeterStone says:

      i’m a little surprised he is talking today, unless he has something to announce. Whats he going to say ? I want to trade up to acquire Couturier ? I want to make a trade for Lecavalier ? I find it odd he’s talking today and not after Free Agency.

      • Talik Sanis says:

        I agree, it is odd, especially for him.

      • savethepuck says:

        If he’s trading up that high it better be for Huberdeau not Couturier. One guys stock is rising and the other’s is falling. I’d rather have the rising stock..

        “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

    • Mattyleg says:

      Yeah PG! Go for it! Tons of bluster and hot air à la Burkie!

      Make us all happy and not at all embarrassed to have such a media slut as our GM!

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Talik Sanis says:

        I would think from my “I need another fix” comment you could tell that I was joking. I would like Gautier to make additions to the team, and be more informative with the press, however. There is a reasonable range between a GM like Gautier and Burke. I look for the happy middle.

        I also prefer a GM who would do nothing (not saying that Gautier is one, mind) over a GM who’d pull off the Kessel trade.

  49. habs03 says:

    I know its Eklund, but this guy has been right lately, he has Paul Stastny at an E4, I better not be to the Leafs!!!

    • J_P says:

      he said stastny was potentially being dealt to the kings. With the acquisition of richards, theres no reason for the kings to acquire another center.

      Eklund is a flake once again. The philly moves werent even on his radar until TSN reported them. Unless your going to read some of the team blogs on his site, you shouldn’t waste your time on there.

    • PeterStone says:

      i just checked. he has him to the kings. I still dont believe him, but I guess after today, you never know.

    • avatar_58 says:

      No he wasn’t, go read HFboards. He was randomly throwing out team names after TSN reported it. He’s a tool and I’m tired of people mentioning his name

    • 24 Cups says:

      The Stastny rumours have been running all week long.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      I’d love Stastny on our team.

      The Stastnys were the only ‘diques I ever liked. They were something.

  50. PrimeTime says:

    will NHL approve Bryz contract?

  51. 24 Cups says:

    I stand corrected. The contract is for equal amounts over 9 years. That’s not good.

    Vokoun now becomes the only goalie left on the market.

  52. RobertAlanFord says:

    Anyone know a link for the press conference?

    -When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro-

  53. SeriousFan09 says:

    A wild day in the NHL, but the Bryzgalov contract is a mess. Flyers mishandle the goaltending situation once more.

    And we weren’t getting Richards or Carter folks, for the same reason no one in the East was getting Halak. You send these guys to where you won’t have to face them.

    Still not sure about LAK making this move, Schenn was the definition of cap-friendly talent and Simmonds had a lot of room to grow as a player. They get a 1-2 punch at C but now are going to need to find other avenues for cap-friendly talent with Doughty coming off his rookie deal, they’re short of scoring talent on the wing as well.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
    SF09 on Twitter

    • J_P says:

      My thoughts exactly on pretty much all counts.

      Curious to see what Dean Lombardi has planned because he definitely needs to address his situation on the wings.

    • avatar_58 says:

      I don’t get it – NO ONE is looking for a goalie. So why the hell sign him for so long and so much money? Just give him a 1 or 2 year deal or tell him to go back to russia.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      The Flyers must be assuming (hoping?) that the next CBA will have an amnesty clause.

      Still, 51M! They’ve gone from who cares about a goalie to outta control.

      Flyers fans are mighty pissed. Carter and Richards are their two favourite players.

  54. christophor says:


  55. TomNickle says:

    Columbus just got fleeced in paramount fashion people. Some people, myself included, consider Voracek and Carter a wash. Columbus threw in a first and a third to boot.

    Scott Howson is the village idiot. Well, he and Nieuwendyk.

    • ds says:

      Carter has a 46 goal season in the bank, Voracek has a 50 pt season. How is that a wash? Carter & Nash can become a deadly combination in Columbus.

      • TomNickle says:

        Voracek is four years younger and has equal talent in the eyes of many.

        Voracek could easily become a point per game player, and could do it as early as this coming season.

        • ds says:

          It’s still an unknown regarding Voracek, Carter meanwhile is already there. If Carter & Nash have chemistry it will be huge.

          Also Philadelphia is betting the farm on Briere who has had injury problems in the past to be their #1 center. If he goes down they are in trouble offensively.

          • 24 Cups says:

            ds – Giroux is already ahead of Briere. Two years from now, so will Schenn. I also think Briere will continue to shuttle back and forth on the wing in need be. His true value is still the PP.

      • J_P says:

        Seriously, nash and carter could easily become the filthiest duo in the NHL.

    • Greg says:

      Fleeced? I don’t think so. They just got a LOT better. Carter feeding Nash will be awesome. You may consider Voracek and Carter a wash, which is fine, but you’d be wrong.

  56. hab_skill says:

    Carter + Nash = Scary combo. Sadly, Columbus have no D. Maybe sign the Wiz?

  57. 24 Cups says:

    Giroux, Schenn, Briere, van Riemsdyk, Hartnell, Versteeg, Simmonds, Voracek and Leino.

    Pleks, Cammy, Gionta, AK46, MaxPac, Gomez, Eller, DD and Darche.

    • TomNickle says:

      In fairness Steve, up until today the Flyers had no prospects not named Gustafsson or Bobrovsky in their system. They just added a pretty big one though.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Including their 8th pick, the Flyers have six rock solid guys under the age of 24 up front after these moves.

        You’ve got to hand it to Holmgren, he has the stones to do quick makeovers.

        The only question is, how did they let things go south when it came to Richards? A few years ago, he was the golden boy. Lifetime contract and the captain’s “C”. Now he’s the cancer that has to be cut out.

    • PeterStone says:

      i think they made some great moves. Not crazy about Bryz signing. I would have put a package and gotten Corey Schneider from VAN

      • ds says:

        Bryz is the only reason Phoenix made the playoffs for two consecutive seasons. The only other good players on Phx were Jovanovski & Doan. Bryz at 5.75 is a solid signing, let’s just hope his career doesn’t turn out like the majority of flyer goaltenders. Somehow with a healthy Pronger I doubt it.

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      More important than ever that Leblanc, Avtsin, Kristo graduate and become NHLers.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

  58. JayBee says:

    I wonder if Pierre will give us an update on the hole in his roof. Did he fix it yet?

  59. TomNickle says:

    Had to go out and get some work done on the car. What did I miss?

  60. HabinBurlington says:

    9 years 51 million to Bryzgalov, wow, some serious term there!

  61. slamtherimtim says:

    glad to see PG finally saying something , nice to announce a signing at the same time ,

    as for philly looks like they may be going after a RFA

  62. HabFanSince72 says:

    It’s all kicking off at the Flyers’ blog:

  63. PeterStone says:

    so .. i wonder where are the know it alls on this site who claim that 2 trades by one team and 1 FA signing is like “EA SPORTS” fantasy trading … this is the NEW NHL , this is how it works.

  64. PeterD says:

    A very bold move by Philly…moving Richards and Carter.
    But they get a 8th overall this year and Schenn and Simmonds from LA…that looks good for the future.

    HEY PIERRE…Bold trades can happen for the bold of spirit…maybe you could pull something off to give us arm-chair GM’s something to discuss for the summer. How about going after a high draft pick say in the #2 -5 slot and actually picking someone to step right into the line up next season instead of a gamble and prospect for several years out.

    • JayBee says:

      Easier said than done. The way the Habs are built, they need to contend now.

      In addition. Who do they have that will return a 2-5th overall pick?

  65. JayBee says:

    Mike Richards – 26 – $5.75M cap hit – 23 goals
    Jeff Carter – 26 – $5M cap hit – 36 goals

    Scott Gomez – 31 – $7.4M cap hit – 7 goals

  66. DearyLeary says:

    BOOM there goes Philly’s offensive punch. Who’s left, Briere and ???. Is Giroux really going to be effective against other teams’ top lines?

  67. Greg says:

    Philly is unloading salary like crazy. Carter to Columbus for Voracek and a 1st and 3rd. Richards to L.A. for Simmonds and Schenn. All for a goalie who will be overpaid and chokes in the playoffs. Weird. I wonder where the 60 goals that Carter and Richards scored last year is going to come from. Schenn and Voracek? I have my doubts.

    • habs03 says:

      Oh man, I can understand the Carter trade, but I’m still in shock that Richards got traded, I think the value is good for both teams, but isn’t Philly trying to win now. Its funny because weren’t there always rumors or locker room issue’s with Richards, and Pronger, seems as though Richards was a bit disrespectful to Pronger, kinda ironic.

    • habs03 says:

      Oh man, I can understand the Carter trade, but I’m still in shock that Richards got traded, I think the value is good for both teams, but isn’t Philly trying to win now. Its funny because weren’t there always rumors or locker room issue’s with Richards, and Pronger, seems as though Richards was a bit disrespectful to Pronger, kinda ironic.

    • Storm Man says:

      I for one is happy what Philly is doing… No more Carter or Richards kicking our ass anymore.

  68. Jim Edson says:

    Nowhere man sitting in his nowhere land making all his nowhere plans for nobody!

    …..My empire is crumbling, my international sponsors are deserting me, my authority is questioned, I am held in contempt wherever I go.

    Who am I: Mohamar Ghadaffi or Gary Bettman.

  69. kmachabs27 says:


    • habs03 says:

      I bet you didn’t know who Wiz was before he was traded to MTL.

      • kmachabs27 says:

        i knew who he was after he blasted 2 shots by carey earlier in the season when he played for the islanders, and another a few games before he got traded.

        • habs03 says:

          He isn’t more than a 3-4 D-man, can’t play in a shutdown role, wants around 5M per, and before you say, its safer to sign him instead of Markov because of Markov’s knee, Wiz has had 3 ACL/MCL injuries to the same knee 3 times already in his career.

          • PeterStone says:

            Habs .. do you think he gets 5M$ ? I dont see him getting more than 4M$ with anyone. I like the toughness element he brings , its something thats sorely lacking on this team .. personally, I would like to see him in a Habs uni … especially in lieu of Spacek , who I believe, because of his 1 yr deal, is tradeable

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