GM Bergevin to hold press conference on Monday

The Canadiens announced on Friday that the players will clear out their lockers in Brossard on Saturday and be made available to the media after 1 p.m., while general manager Marc Bergevin will hold his post-mortem press conference at noon Monday in Brossard.

The Canadiens saw their season come to an end with Thursday night’s 6-1 loss to the Ottawa Senators in Game 5 of their Eastern Conference quarterfinal series.

(Photo by Richard Wolowicz/Getty Images)

Senators eliminate Canadiens in Game 5, by Pat Hickey

A silver lining to this dark cloud, by Dave Stubbs

Look to the future, Plekanec says, by Pat Hickey

Senators win series 4-1,

Game 5 photo gallery

Aislin cartoon on end of Habs season

Senators crush Canadiens to advance, by Ottawa Citizen

Who’s up for another round, by Ottawa Citizen

Another year without a Cup for Habs fans, by Stu Cowan

Catching up with some former Habs, by Stu Cowan



  1. Phil C says:

    New thread.

  2. HankHardball says:

    Is the Desharnais we saw since his contract was signed, an NHL player on any team but the Habs?

    Plekanec hasn’t lived up to the potential he showed when his contract was signed. Is his contract tradeable?

    Despite his spunk and low price tag, White’s size and immaturity do little to help his attractiveness.

    I doubt any or all of them can bring anything significant to MTL. Either as players or trade bait.

  3. Oh my Reimer vs Price

    Two games ago Reimer was the worst player on ice! The Bruins made him look silly.

    Yes he makes 1.8 now, but what if this was his contract year? He takes the Leafs with spectacular play all the way to the finals, what does he make the next contract?

    Players are paid on performance. Carey since Halak left was the Canadiens THE BEST PLAYER on ice. He was paid because of it.

    Now Carey has one bad season, and we are comparing him to goalies who are paid under a two million and are three years younger.

    Trust me. If Reimer continues his path to glory he will be another 5-7 million dollar goalie. No question about it.

    But one thing is also certain, the ever revolving door of Leaf goaltenders will continue. Toronto, like Montreal will eat their own. If Reimer, like Price can handle it, then he will stick around and make the big coin.

    Carey at Reimer’s age was making what, 2.2 million and people still hammered Price and Carey Price didn’t wave his arms the air and demand a trade.

    Price is here to stay, build him a team in front, and see what happens.

    But what do I know, I’m a Pricebot and proud of it! 🙂

    Shane Oliver
    Twitter @Sholi2000
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    • Clay says:

      Sholi, Reimer is not 2 years younger than Price – he is merely 7 months younger (Reimer was born March 15, 1988, Price Carey Price born August 16, 1987).
      Also, if he (Reimer) does lead his team all the way to the cup, then he will likely have earned a bigger payday. Price has won one playoff round in 6 years with the team. He has below average stats, and was by far the worst of the 16 starting goalies in the playoffs. He was very rarely the best Hab on the ice. He did nothing to earn his contract. I hope he will soon.
      ☞ “The deepest sin of the human mind is to believe things without evidence” ~ Aldous Huxley ☜

      • Oh wow then great for him for finally making it, he’ll be a rich man in one year.

        Shane Oliver
        Twitter @Sholi2000
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        • Clay says:

          Way to ignore my points. 😉

          ☞ “The deepest sin of the human mind is to believe things without evidence” ~ Aldous Huxley ☜

      • He did nothing to earn his contract? Then why did Bergevin pay him?

        Shane Oliver
        Twitter @Sholi2000
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        • Clay says:

          That is a good question, one which I have been asking ever since it was offered. Why don’t you ask him that? Playoffs are where contracts are earned Sholi. And playoffs are exactly where Price does not shine. Any game with pressure really. He is an average goalie, and that’s putting it generously.

          ☞ “The deepest sin of the human mind is to believe things without evidence” ~ Aldous Huxley ☜

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        Price did nothing to earn his contract? That’s terribly unfair, and completely wrong.

        You like to focus solely on the playoffs because you have this false notion that that should be the only thing that counts in determining a player’s salary.

        Sorry to break it you, but the 82 games before play a big role in determining IF you make the playoffs at all. Looks like someone is taking that for granted. Making the playoffs isn’t a given! It requires a very long season grind to get there, and OF COURSE a goaltender’s salary will reflect his performance there!!

    • CanadienBoy says:

      Allaire did a great interview on Price and goal tending in the Nhl on CKAC a must read for all the Price bashers

      • There isn’t an interview on the planet that will convince fans about Price. They want Carey Price to carry a team to the finals, and then they want him to do it 5 years straight. Why, they live in the past!

        Shane Oliver
        Twitter @Sholi2000
        Custom Sports Figures

        • Clay says:

          How about once?
          As for an interview to convince anyone…why do I need someone’s words to tell me what my eyes can plainly see? We now have a solid body of empirical evidence on Price to look at. It is not flattering to him.

          ☞ “The deepest sin of the human mind is to believe things without evidence” ~ Aldous Huxley ☜

          • jedimyrmidon says:

            No, it’s not only once. If he does it once, the bar will bet set to two, then to three, and folks will criticize him all the same if he stumbles because they want consistency.

            If he did it once, all it would do would be buy him some time.

    • saskhabfan says:

      Sholi, stop wasting your time. The guy is just a halakian,and like all halakians are opportunistic and show up here to stir the pot when they get a rare chance to. Reimer wasn’t that good last night, the bruins made him look good. How many times was the net virtually wide open and the bruins player flubbed the shot into reimer who was way out of position? 4 or 5 times easily. On any other night its a blowout win for the bruins and nobody is talking about how awesome reimer is.

  4. Maritime Ron says:

    @ Habfan10912

    Re your take on the polarization of Price.

    Fair or not, I think what may happen in several cases is the short term ‘expectation’ of the contract Salary/Cap Hit, and then a general comparison towards other players at that position.

    Take the Price-Reimer situation being discussed below.
    Reimer: $1.8M Cap Hit- 33rd highest for ALL NHL goalies
    Price: $6.5M Cap Hit-3rd highest for ALL NHL goalies

    As for Reimer, there is little expectation and only much HOPE because of the small contract.

    As for Price, and because of his 3rd highest goaltender Cap Hit in the NHL, there are huge expectations to ‘live up’ to that number and perform to at least a Top 10 in Save Percentage and some other categories.
    This year, Price finished with a poor .905 SP that ranked him 35 out of 50 goaltenders ranked by the NHL.

    Hence, the questioning of spending those types of precious Cap Dollars on a goalie that has proven little to date.
    Some may rightfully ask would Cap dollars be spent better on what is deemed a middle of the road goalie, then used for other/better positional players?

    You can see the goalie list/Cap Hits here:

    • The Cat says:

      The causes of the polarization are important too…Forced on Carbo by gainey, the halak thing, then giving price all the leverage in the world by having no threatening backup on the team nor in the pipeline during his contract negotiation. The organization has rewarded him before hes earned anything -thats why theres a polarization.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I am a big fan of Price, and I do believe he can be an elite goalie in this league. He definitely has high expectations, he definitely needs to improve next season, just as the team needs to improve. Specifically our defence.

      I believe both will happen.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        I hope you’re right Gerald but his play regressed this season. Next year is a measuring stick?

        • Maritime Ron says:

          Perhaps it wouldn’t be far fetched to say Price has 2 years to prove he can play in Montreal

          • Clay says:

            I agree…but only because we have no one in the system even close to contending for the job. This is, IMO, a huge failure of the past regime which Marc Bergevin needs to address.

            ☞ “The deepest sin of the human mind is to believe things without evidence” ~ Aldous Huxley ☜

    • Habfan10912 says:

      I do understand it Ron and I don’t necessarily disagree that the money would have been better served spent elsewhere. For us it is what it is and as a Hab fan I hope he turns out to be a Roy like star in this league. For us fans it could be disastrous if he isn’t.
      Edit: Please call me Jim. It’s easier to type then habfan10912. 🙂

  5. Hobie Hansen says:

    If I’m Marc Bergevin I’m giving Max Pacioretty the business card of Gary Roberts and a few videos tapes, or maybe memory sticks :-), of highlights of the careers of Cam Neely, Brendan Shanahan or Wendal Clark. See those guys Max, do that!

    “It’s frightening to contemplate how this undersized team would fare in a seven-game series against St. Louis, L.A. or Chicago..”

    –Mike Boone

    • habstrinifan says:

      Good Good post! Basically you are saying ‘let’s stop spinning our wheels thinking we are giving good performance but not getting good results’….. let’s start taking concrete steps, methods and styles available from examples of ‘your type of player’.. and lets start adopting and practising these skills and tricks to obtain the PRODUCTION we should be delivering.

    • Asking him to change his play into a player he is not will never work. If you want guys like Clark, Shanahan and barffff Neely, then you draft those type players.

      After Pacrioretty was hit in game one (no puck, clearly interference, no call) he was hurt. Never played the same all series and for good reason.

      Shane Oliver
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      • ont fan says:

        I hope Max or Price have a chance with their Olympic teams. Maybe being around players like that will ring some bells. I remmember Bobby Clark saying after ’72 Russian series, he realized he had another gear.

        • The adrenalin they had during the Summit was like no other. Phil Esposito almost every show on XM92 mentions how they played that series with the heart of warriors. It was a different era, and made them all heroes. Bobby Clark had another gear for sure, but he was really really good in the 70’s (not that I saw it).

          You’re so lucky to be able to remember that series. I was born in 71, and when the series came out on VHS I watched it over and over. 😆 I grew up with three huskies, I named them all Tretiak!

          Shane Oliver
          Twitter @Sholi2000

          Custom Sports Figures

        • neumann103 says:

          A dirty, slashing, ankle breaking gear?

          “Et le but!”

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I see your point Hobie and I am in partial agreement. The reason for my caution, is simply put, is that style of game in Max? I think he can definitely incorporate some of their style, but am not sure he will ever play a game just like those 3 you mentioned. I also wonder if he isn’t a product of his development. Seems to me most U.S. College players don’t play that rough and tumble game like you will see from kids developing in the CHL.

      This isn’t to say he cant develop into more of that player, but it also isn’t as simple as saying “do this”. I recently heard Paul Maurice talk about his time in the KHL this past season as a coach. He said the first thing he wanted to do was apologize to every Russian player he coached in the NHL. He said he now understands why they play the style they do and how difficult it is to transform that style to “Canadian” style of play.

  6. Gazza Strip says:

    Greetings from down East. My post mortem on this season will be brief. Had a great time watching the team make a comeback from the depths of hockey Hell. With new leadership at the top, I truly feel they will continue to improve.

    What to do next?

    Perfer to keep but not essential: Trade if you can get bigger, meaner, tougher, better.
    Max Pac

    Unload the rest for whatever you can get:
    Everyone who’s left (not including kids on the farm)

    Not trying to stir up crap with this but WE HAVE TO GET BIGGER. Time to stop saying it. It’s time to start doing it.

    I really appreciate coming to this site to read the thoughts of everyone who posts. (Including Timo and those who are not afraid to make things spicy.) Imagine how boring it would be if it were all just people like me who usually just look to the positive. Even though I rarely make posts myself, I read daily.
    The playoffs are not as much fun to watch once our guys are gone but I always pull for Canadian teams. While I don’t think either Toronto or Ottawa will do it this year, who knows for sure? That’s what makes NHL playoff hockey so much fun to watch.

  7. Habfan10912 says:

    We’ve named Price and DD as regressing this season but we should not leave out Josh Gorges. There were times this season he too looked like an AHL’er. I wonder if we’ll hear about an injury from him as well. I’m almost hoping so. Would explain a lot (alot). 🙂

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Josh Gorges was never meant to be one of our top defenders, IMO. I still think he’d be very good with a guy like Brooks Orpik, a younger Hal Gill, Bryan Allen or maybe a Robyn Regher.

      “It’s frightening to contemplate how this undersized team would fare in a seven-game series against St. Louis, L.A. or Chicago..”

      –Mike Boone

    • HabinBurlington says:

      The team is at a transition point, who were our best players this year? Gally, Chucky, PK, Eller, Prust, Max, Emelin? The veterans are slowly being replaced. I believe we will see MB continue this movement.

      I am sure trades will come, perhaps not in off season, maybe during season, but the winds of change will slowly come through the molson center. Not wholesale, just continued tweaks if I was to guess.

      • habstrinifan says:

        I hope the veterans and their mindset are indeed slowly replaced. We cannot, of course, move all our veterans..that would be foolhardy. But the players you have mentioned must be given the reigns of this team. You didnt mention Eller. I dont think you meant not to include him. Eller, to me, has dramatically proven that he is INDEED one of the icons of this team. Two players stood up and grabbed the chances given to them. almost grudgingly. One player was Eller. If this team fiddles around with his stature next season I am going back to following the World Marble League.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Yah I forgot Eller, i went back and added. Agree my friend, I could definitely see 1-2 veterans moved, perhaps it is any one of Gionta, Gorges, Moen, Plex, Markov.

          It is inevitable with the development of our younger players.

  8. BigB says:

    Hello my fellow Hab lovers.
    I’ve been a reader of this site for about 3 years, but never posted anything till today.

    – First and foremost: thank you to everyone in the Habs organization for having given us a surprisingly great season. Again, we saw some players performing above expectations and others below expectations. It appears we forget that the Habs were not thought of as playoff worthy this year prior to the season yet we finished 2nd in the conference. To me, that is an overachieving team. I am grateful and happy about that.

    – Thank you to the HIO writers for making this site enjoyable. Am a huge fan of ALN.

    – Can’t wait for our D to get bigger and meaners, for our forwards to get bigger and meaner and score more, and for our goalie to become more consistent. IMO we do have a bright future ahead of us…but waiting so many years for #25 is driving me crazy. I have confidence in our GM though. I know he’ll be doing what is needed to bring Stan back home.

    – I don’t believe in a “goon” system like the Laffs or that hated team in Massachussetts employ, but frankly speed/skill is not the only combination needed in today’s NHL. We need to add grit to that combo so we can last 82 games plus the playoffs.

    Habs forever!

  9. habstrinifan says:

    If you were a rookie in the dressing room. And the GM let Scott Gomez walk..and you were aware of his strugles and ineffectiveness over the past 3 years.
    Which reaction would carry a more realistic message to you and also inform you that ‘performance and results’ matter.

    “You know this is sports and it happens. Hopefully he would rebound and get his career back on track.”
    “I was shocked. He was such a god guy for our team… I remember blah blah blah.. We gonna miss his presence in the room”.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      The first one. He was NOT a good guy for the team. His on ice performance was horrendous.

      • habstrinifan says:

        I am slowly, and very cautiously, getting to one of the insidious aspects of team mentality which has ingrained itself into the psyche of the HABS… passed down from management to coaches to players.

        That the LACK OF RESULTS is secondary to some other intangibles. It embraces the ‘good guy’ over the ‘good player’.

  10. LizardKing1967 says:

    Everyone chill out. MB took over this team a year ago. Made a couple of moves and I am sure he’s got alot more to do. No matter what team you are, when you get a new GM, it takes at least 2 to 3 years to be able to call the team YOURS. This team was still the BG/PG/JM team that was built by them. Wait another year or so before passing judgement.

    Thanks Mr. Boone and everyone at H/IO. Been coming here since the first day and you always do a great job!

    Thanks boys for the great, exciting season. The futur looks so great with the Gallys, Prust, P.K., Tinordi etc…..

    Thanks to Mr. Molson, Mr. Bergevin, and Mr. Therrien for bringing back (if not always, at least mostly) exciting and winning hockey to MTL.

    Thanks to all the posters on here like Bugs, Ian Cobb, HardHabits, Un Canadien Errant, Habitant in Surrey, Timo (of course), SmartDog and all the rest….you all make the read more enjoyable.

    See you all in September…. And, I have changed my signature to reflect…..

    Drive for 25. 2013-2014. Gally for Conn Smyth.
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    • Habfan10912 says:

      What he said.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Bergevin has basically had two opportunities, last summer and this year’s trade deadline to make changes. He brought in Prust last summer and didn’t feel like mortgaging the future for a rental at the deadline this year.

      He also managed to trade Cole, who was whining and declining.

      No issue with Bergevin except the Desharnais deal.

      “It’s frightening to contemplate how this undersized team would fare in a seven-game series against St. Louis, L.A. or Chicago..”

      –Mike Boone

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Have a good summer Lizard.

  11. Habfan10912 says:

    Very few athletes have polarized their fan base in recent times as Carey Price. The Love – Hate that fans have for this player borders for some on psychotic. A Rod (or A-Roid if you perfer), Tim Tebow, Barry Bonds, Pete Rose and Tiger Woods are some that have that special knack.
    Reading this board you get the sense of the passion of both sides of this Isle. The unconditional “he can’t do anything wrong in my eyes” crowd vs. the “anybody else but him crowd”. The truth lies somewhere in the middle and this story has yet to be written. I think the critisism and support have been equally off the mark. Today I see an argument that Reimer is the better goalie. Just 3 weeks ago fans of the team wanted him tared and feathered.
    And for the folks quick to hang MB out to dry. Here in the US I’ve gotten use to the “We want instant results” folks. I want it now should be the countries new slogan among many. After one year on the job he’s overpaid for DD, he hasn’t rebuilt the teams defense, he hasn’t made Price play up to a 6 million dollar a year goalie. The team went from last place to the playoffs in one season. They vastly over performed. Anyone who watched this team all season knew that we weren’t nearly as good as the record indicated. Then some injuries hit and it was good night Irene.
    Does this fan base have the patients of NY Yankee fans? Are we not smart enough fans to realize the depths to which the talent in the organization had fallen?
    Is Price the guy? I hope.
    Is MB the guy? I hope.
    Is MT the guy? I hope.
    In the meantime we’ll keep making judgement that can change on a whim. Reimer gets pulled against Montreal. Should have gotten Louie L. Reimer played good last night. He’s better then Price.
    The point I’m trying to make is the jury is still out on many of these questions. As a Hab fan I hope the answers are all in the Habs favor. Time will answer this for us.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Morning Jim, good post. End of day, we have to be patient, it isn’t MB’s fault for the past regime, he is responsible only for his moves and he hasn’t been able to make many yet.

  12. Habs_4_ever says:

    Does anyone think the Habs would have done better if they would have finished 4th and faced Toronto? I’m not sure they would have won but I think they would have lasted more than 5 games.

    “Leave the gun, take the cannoli.”

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Water under the bridge. This team was not going to advance far in the play-offs with an under performing goaltender and arguably their 2nd best dman on a weak d squad injured. I also suspect, Mr. Gionta, Prust, and Patches were all playing with injuries as well.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      I don’t watch much non-Hab hockey, but I watched good chunks of several games last night. It was an eye-opener. I did not feel that the April-May Habs could compete with any of the teams that I saw. In fact, I don’t think they could have beaten any team that made the playoffs. I am kind of embarrassed that they made it that far. Let’s hope that injuries were a big part of it, but I think it was more than that.

    • JF says:

      I think we could have destroyed the Leafs. The Sens are a much better team and much tougher. The Leafs like to think they’re tough, but their toughness more often goes in acts of goonery or in hits that take themselves out of the play than in hits that give them the advantage. The Sens use their toughness not just in hitting but in taking their opponent out of the play, taking away his time and space, creating time and space for themselves, etc. This is something the Habs were not able to do against them, and it’s more a question of toughness than of size (although size certainly helps).

      Going into the playoffs, the Senators were the one team (aside from the Pens) that I really did not want the Habs to meet. They’re much better than their 7th-place record and would almost certanly have won the division had they been healthy. Anderson would have won the Vezina.

      Much as I was annoyed by MacLean during the series, his press conference afterwards was worth listening to. He talked about how the Sens felt after their first-round exit against the Rangers last year that they needed to get tougher. The Habs should take a lesson from what the Sens did.

      Against the Leafs, we showed during the regular season that if we play our game, we can beat them easily. It’s only if Price is way off his game or if we try to play their way that we lose. Of course, if we had faced the Leafs and beaten them, we would likely be facing the Pens in the next round….

  13. habstrinifan says:

    Minor thought on this AM. What to do with David Desharnais?
    Let’s not get into whether it was right or wrong to sign DD. If someone is and has been a fan of the HABS and by now cannot understand the imperative of the optics represented in signing the team’s only Francophone regular (no I havent forotten Bouillion).. then you are out of touch with reality on this item.

    There is no reasonable grounds on which to expect a repeat of the Cole-DD-Pacs production next year.. I dont see Pacs as the same player he was then.. and we dont have a Cole in the system(closest thing is Bourque).

    This may be a wacky idea. But I would vigorously try to exchange Weber and Desharanis as a package for someone like Pouliot. I know I know.. what’s with the reclamation project.

    But I think Pouliot has the skill and size and is infinitely more complete and capable than DD.
    I think our coaching staff(note I stress staff) is better suited to make Pouliot recognize his potential.

    I consider our top forwards for the near future to be Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Eller, Bourque (yes that Bourque) Prust, and without breaking the bank, I think Pouliot would fit in with that group better than DD now.

    Of course MB would still have the cash and option to try landing a reaql big name forward.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Along with Price, DD regressed as a player more then anyone else this season. There were many times he looked to me that he did not belong in this league. I don’t want to get dragged into the debate as to if his contract was nationality based or performance based so I will pass there.
      His performance this season certainly should not discourage any trade.

  14. Ian Cobb says:

    Leafs defense, back checking forwards and goal tending are working very well together. As a team, they are playing better defensively than the Hab’s did for sure. I have to agree with most members on here, that we play to soft a game, come play off time, with smaller players and a couple forwards who do not give 100% back checking. This is going to be addressed by Bergevin over the next few months, I believe
    Neither Toronto or Boston will win their next round, me thinks.
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    • HabinBurlington says:

      Leafs indeed played a strong game last night, and the Bruins to me are not the same team that was awarded the Cup two seasons ago. Tim Thomas was unconscious that season, and almost all their key players played excellent.

      I agree with you that I don’t think either team will advance past next round, but the playoffs always have surprises.

      Was happy for Reimer having a good game, he is a good kid. His save on Jagr may have been lucky, but it was huge!

      Gardener was excellent for them.

  15. rhino514 says:

    Seeing some of the comments, I ask you all again:

    Do you really think Price is just an average goalie?
    Everyone loves Tinordi because he´s tall (not even that big yet), but are you all confident he will be a good full-time D by next season? And who thinks Tinordi will be as valuable (though a different kind of D) as McDonaugh?
    Are you guys sure Markov should either be gone or if kept left strictly on the bottom pairing five on five?

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Jury is still out on Price.
      Tinordi should be on the squad next season. I hope he’s a top 4 dman like McDonaugh. Time will tell.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Tinordi: Our defence was in such trouble this year that Tinordi was thrust into action a bit prematurely. I heard his dad on the radio a couple months ago stating that he’s still working on adding muscle to his frame and his overall game. Most analysts were also saying, early in the season, that he could use a fulll season or two in the AHL before playing in the NHL because it takes big men a bit longer to master their craft.

      Price: Again, the defence. When a goaltender has nobody, or maybe one physical, crease clearing, defensive defenceman, in front of him, he’s knows it’s all on him every night. I guarantee that if Price looked out there and saw a defence like L.A., St. Louis or Chicago, his confidence would be a lot higher, not to mention there would be a heck of a lot loss scrambles in front of him.

      Markov: he’s got amazing offensive ability but he’s had his share of injuries, he’s getting older and is having difficulties against big, strong and fast teams. I’m thrilled to have him on the team but definitely not on the PK or late in the game.

      “It’s frightening to contemplate how this undersized team would fare in a seven-game series against St. Louis, L.A. or Chicago..”

      –Mike Boone

  16. HabinBurlington says:

    Listening to Joe Sakic talk about what he wants in his next coach, sure sounds like Patrick Roy could be on his way back to Colorado.

  17. HabinBurlington says:

    Just turned on US vs. France Game, anyone know what number is Kristo and what number is Bozon for France?

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Pretty sure its 7.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Thanks Gerald, I forgot it was on my friend! I do not know their numbers.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Was watching mysel..didnt hear his name a lt. I think his # ends in 7.maybe #17.
      Was half asleep watching.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Hey isn’t today the big day you post your thoughts on the season Trini?

        • habstrinifan says:

          Yes Habinburlington but I am kinda afraid to honestly. Not because I dont believe my concerns are seriously instumental in any real progress for next year and are valid. But because I dont know if I want to face the reaction from the site.

          For instance I would like to ask HIO to honestly analyse Gionta’s and Markov’s influence on the coach and therefore how ready he is to make them both accept the modified roles which they MUST if this team are going to integrate our prospects or new acquisitions into the major positions that need serius upgrading.

          • Habfan10912 says:

            For best results Trini, I’d recommend doing it early in the morning. The HIO crowd is normally more logical.

          • Clay says:

            Looking forward to it Jameson.

            ☞ “The deepest sin of the human mind is to believe things without evidence” ~ Aldous Huxley ☜

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Go for it bud, even if I don’t agree with it, I always know that we can have an intelligent conversation about it. Like Clay, I look forward to it.

          • Danno says:

            Early in the morning when the HIO crowd is ” normally more logical” = Not drunk yet. :mrgreen:


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          • Habfan10912 says:

            @Danno Actually I love some of our HIO drunks. 🙂

  18. Bill says:

    @jedi: well I can’t predict the future. I would say that right now he’s a better goalie. That could definitely change.

  19. sheds88 says:

    yes we could have used some size at the deadline, but i respect MB
    more for standing his ground, and not making any drastic moves. keep in mind he did inquire about torres and clowe which means he knows we need size, but wasn’t willing to give up the asking price. this is an asst. gm who helped build a championship team through the draft bringing players up through the system. we have a lot of picks in this years draft and i think MB is licking his chops

  20. Bill says:

    I wasn’t insulting Carey Price at all. I just said Reimer is better by a fair bit. That was a really impressive game he just had.

    I don’t think that guy gets enough respect. I know Price is victimized by the brutal D-corps we have, but you can’t tell me that Toronto’s D isn’t even worse. Give Reimer some credit, he’s clearly a really good goalie, and only a couple months older than Price.

    • sheds88 says:

      leafs D isn’t as talented as our but they are big, hit and can clear the crease. something CP could use a little of. I agree about reimer, very underrated and will be very good.

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      “Reimer is better by a fair bit.”

      As in, his career so far and in the future will reflect that? Or, at this moment, he’s playing better?

    • johnnylarue says:

      Reimer’s playing great right now. And Bill’s right: anyone can see Toronto’s D is strictly… “honest”, to put it as nicely as possible.

      Remains to be seen whether he has staying power as a no. 1 goalie, but no question he’s had a better post-season than Price.

      Speaking of whom, Carey is great, but the pressure is on him to be a game-breaker–and just as importantly, a durable one. Ostensibly, he’s the guy who’s supposed to be compensating for a weakened D squad. He’s not paid to be a goalie that needs elite D-zone protection to look good. He’s paid to be a star goaltender.

      In any case, the ball is squarely in Price’s court. But I can’t imagine the GM would look fondly upon a second consecutive ho-hum season from his franchise goalie…

      • Clay says:

        Edit – never mind…
        By which I mean to say, I misunderstood your post at first, but after re-reading it I agree with it.

        ☞ “The deepest sin of the human mind is to believe things without evidence” ~ Aldous Huxley ☜

    • Marc10 says:

      Better in the first round of the playoffs, sure. But Reimer’s been like that. Great some nights and off the reservation other nights…

      Still, that was clutch goaltending.

      • habstrinifan says:

        But that’s Bill’s point Marc10, Reimer has been great and enough so that he has accounted for many of Toronto’s wins… despite the team’s performance.

    • habstrinifan says:

      Finally someone acknowledging that in this season anyways, Reimer hs been better than Price. Reimer seems less affected my ‘the disappointment of not living up to a certain status’ over a stretch of game and bouncing back. I dont think Price has had a stretch of games where he has imposed his wil on his career/performance this season.
      It’s as if Price is battling himself to meet the ‘status’ to which he has been annointed as one of the best five goalies in the league. Every season for as long as he came up, Pundits and fans etc all claim him as a top 5 if not top 3 goalie and….. well cany anyone say that wih absolute conviction based on his career.

  21. HardHabits says:

    This was so two summers ago but here we go again… Brian Wilde espouses the HH doctrine. Size and grit baby.

  22. sheds88 says:

    i am starting to get quite concerned about price. but i would like to see some real d-men in front of him. i think our forwards ( when healthy and minus DD ) are fine as is. maybe bring in another big body to crash and bang. would price be overall better with a some big mean dmen ?

    • H.Upmann says:

      probably any goalie would rather have big mean mofos helping on defense.. when Emelin went down, there must have been some collective panic. I don’t support or bash Price, but I’m starting to feel puzzled…. is he really just an average goalie? Maybe he would be better off in a small market arena. But I would really like to see him do well in MTL

  23. Sportfan says:

    Halak didn’t get to bring Stanley back 😛

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    • Clay says:

      Neither did Price. But it would not be wrong to point out that Halak had more playoff success in just one season than Price has had in his entire 6 year career thus far. Not a ringing endorsement of Price.

      ☞ “The deepest sin of the human mind is to believe things without evidence” ~ Aldous Huxley ☜

    • Marc10 says:

      Apparently Jaro really got into it with Hitch on the eve of their elimination. He might be on the market… Something’s got to give in St Louis. That’s two eliminations during their ‘cup window’. Shades of Vancouver… You only get so many cracks at it before you need to retool. (Still a great team though… They unfortunately ran into J Quick…)

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