Habs call up Blunden, Holland, Beaulieu; Prust out for four weeks

With the Canadiens’ injury list growing – Brandon Prust’s shoulder injury will keep the rugged forward out of the lineup for four weeks – GM Marc Bergevin travelled to Hamilton Sunday to check in on what’s available on the farm.

On Monday morning, the Canadiens announced that forwards Mike Blunden and Patrick Holland have been called up from the AHL Bulldogs. And late Monday afternoon, the club announced that defenceman Nathan Beaulieu, who had quietly been returned to Hamilton on the weekend, had also been called up to the Canadiens.

The Bulldogs lost 2-1 to the Toronto Marlies while getting only 18 shots on goal Sunday. Blunden scored the lone Hamilton goal. In three games with the Bulldogs, Blunden had two goals and an assist and was plus-3. Holland had one goal and one assist in four games and was plus-4. Defenceman Greg Pateryn leads the Bulldogs in scoring with 2-2-4 totals.

Joining Prust and Max Pacioretty on the Canadiens’ injured list is Daniel Briere, who is out indefinitely with a concussion suffered in Saturday’s loss to Nashville. Alexei Emelin, George Parros and Douglas Murray – also sidelined with injuries – all skated Monday in Brossard with strength coach Pierre Allard.

Blunden and Holland joined Ryan White on the fourth line for Monday’s practice, while rookie Michael Bournival was told he’s staying in Montreal for the long run.

“We told to Michael Bournival this morning that he can start looking for an apartment,” coach Michel Therrien told reporters in Brossard.

Here’s how all the lines and defence pairings looked at Monday’s practice:

Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher
Bournival-Plekanec-Gionta
Bourque-Desharnais-Moen
Holland-White-Blunden

Markov-Subban
Gorges-Diaz
Tinordi-Bouillon

(Photo by John Kenney/The Gazette)

Canadiens recall Blunden and Holland, Hamiltonbulldogs.com

Bergevin looks for reinforcements, by Pat Hickey

Marlies top Bulldogs 2-1, hamiltonbulldogs.com

Concussion list keeps growing, by Jack Todd

Oilers’ Hall flies home to Edmonton for assessment of knee injury, Edmonton Journal

Rookie Jones getting plenty of ice time with Predators, by Brenda Branswell

Hall of Famer Stanley was link to last Leafs Cup, by Dave Stubbs

486 Comments

  1. Sportfan says:

    How is LL doing? Do the Habs just want him to play a full AHL season and then decide what to do with him?

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  2. Luke says:

    According to Twitter (Arpon Basu): Bournival was told to get an apartment in Montreal by MT.

    I wonder why MT wants him to rent instead of own?
    I guess he doesn’t expect him to be here for long and it’s easier to break a lease than sell a place.

    ;)

    • Mattyleg says:

      MT knows as well as anyone that they are building so many goddamn condos in Montreal that they will be terribly devalued within months of being built.

      It’s wise financial advice our wily old coach is giving our youngsters.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • slyCH says:

        What’s with this condo stuff anyway? I had a couple Laval guys here on the island here telling me my beloved youth stomping ground recreatek (recreatech? forgot the spelling) is getting torn down for condos…what gives man?

        • Mattyleg says:

          Condos-condos-condos.

          I think that people are under the belief that somehow Montreal’s population is about to triple in the next 5 years or so.

          …and if they don’t, people are going to be in a loooooot of trouble.

          Dunno why the city is allowing it all.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • DipsyDoodler says:

          The condo boom in Canada is apparently being fueled by wealthy Chinese citizens who want an escape route for their old age. Life is harsh in the People’s Republic since they adopted 19th century capitalism.

          So now that Vancouver and Toronto are all but full up with condos, Montreal is getting the leftover boom.

  3. Mattyleg says:

    I looooove the fact that people are yapping to pick up deadweights like Staubitz et al

    These are the exact same posters that, should MB ever forget his medication and actually do that, and those brain-dead moves inevitably fail to deliver on the pipe-dreams conjured up by the HI/O non-telligencia, these guys will the first to jump up and down à la Rumplestiltskin, shouting “Panic move!! Panic move!!”

    Gotta love these here Internets…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  4. H.Upmann says:

    Cool, we’ll get to have a look at Holland… but, what’s up with LL ? maybe MB don’t like him too much….

  5. Max_a_million says:

    Lots of conjecture on how MB is making us bigger and tougher.

    Facts – average height and weight of Montreal Canadiens
    2013- 2014 6 ft 1/4 inch – 199.6 lbs
    2012-2013 6 ft 1/2 inch – 202.2 lbs
    2011-2012 6 ft 1/2 inch – 202.7 lbs
    2010-2011 6 ft 1 inch – 204.3 lbs

    # of fights
    2012-2013 25
    2011-2012 28
    2010-2011 32
    2009-2010 32

    I can’t find a measure that shows us getting bigger and tougher.

  6. bwoar says:

    Super glad today that all these injuries are hitting us now. Nothing worse than building up expectations until the injury bug hits in April and we’re too beaten up to win a playoff round. Looking forward to seeing some great hockey in Feb/March as we tune up for (and make) the playoffs. Gonna be nail-biting in the interim.

    “thoroughbred”

  7. jon514 says:

    Holland has a lot more to give than people give him credit for. His success at the junior level eclipsed Gallagher’s. I really think given the chance he can push his way onto the 3rd or even 2nd line. He was the steal of the Cammalleri trade!

    • Fransaskois says:

      I’d rein in your horses a little here….

      Biggest reason why Holland was outproducing Gallagher and why his stats took an unprecedented jump can be attributed to the fact that he was playing on one of the most stacked lines in the WHL with the two overagers Shinnimin and Hughesman.

      Note that only his assists stats went up once he was paired with these two.

      We can be excited and hope he’ll be a good playmaker but I think we need to temper expectations a little bit.

  8. slyCH says:

    Yesterday was our annual zombie day on the island. People ride bikes from Stock island to Duval street and parade up and down on the closed off street. Good times. Plenty of sexy cheerleader and zombie nurses. Could have sworn I saw a few Hab players in the bunch.

  9. Habfan10912 says:

    This bunch will still be worth watching even with all the injuries. We are blessed to watch a PK night in and night out. And who hasn’t fallen in love with Galchenyyuk, Eller and Gallagher?
    Bournival’s going to provide energy every night. Carey Price is rounding into form. And eventually we’ll get Emelin, Prust, Patches and Parros back.
    I’m more optimistic then pessimistic.

  10. Lafleurguy says:

    Time for a swarming. Shelve the repellant Gentlemen and Seven Ladies.
    Bugs, you’re up.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  11. DeadEnd says:

    Since everyone on this site is a qualified NHL GM (myself included), my question today is the following: If not Briere, then who? I didn’t see too many UFA’s lining up at the Bell Centre’s doors. Especially not with teams like Toronto picking up every other available player.

    It’s all well and good to say we should’ve got this guy or that guy, but it’s not all up to the team, is it? Sure, I would’ve loved to see the Habs pick up some big guys who can score, but there weren’t any interested.

    Instead, the team took a chance on a guy with good career numbers and proven playoff performances. What did it cost them? Nothing, really. No players, prospects or draft picks given away. They spent money, which the team has en masse. If he’s out hurt for the rest of the season (or forever), his cap hit gets Prongered and there is no residual effect. And if he is gone long-term, then we’re back where we were before the season started and maybe now we have to make a trade.

    Took a shot, cost us nothing, season is still young (and not exactly in jeopardy yet). Maybe now some other team is reevaluating what it’s got vs. what it needs; maybe they have injuries on defence (and who has a bunch of d-man prospects?) and an expendable forward or two?. Maybe now there’s a deal to be made. Time will tell.

    I’d love to see the Canadiens win it all this season, if for no other reason to shut up all the Senator fans I’m surrounded by. Probably not a realistic expectation. Here’s hoping, though.

    Please address all complaints to my lawyer ;-)

    • Fransaskois says:

      I don’t have your lawyer’s contact information…..

      Damien Brunner

      Younger, as skilled, healthier, faster, significantly cheaper, friends with Diaz.

      That would have been the only other option to fill the spot. There definitely was risk involved (Sophomore player) and there’s a chance he just didn’t want to play here.

      Not sure anything else can be argued.

  12. krob1000 says:

    I am hoping they put BOruque on his off wing and not Moen? Bourque has a history of playing better on the right..one would think that would be logical in this situation right? I am surprised that Bournival is getting that opportunity…I belive he deserves it but I am surprosed given MT’s past usage of kids….Bournival must be very good away from the puck for MT to do that….that is prettyw ell unheard of for him.

  13. chemic says:

    im glad we dont play boston and toronto in that timespan when prust is out. hopefully parros get his moustache straight till november 7th against ottawa.

  14. Luke says:

    Well, It was either Lecav or Briere during the off season, right?

    Nice to see both have 1g 2a and are injured.

    Briere’s a plus and cost less… LeCav managed to play 3 fewer games…

    So ya. Awesomes.

  15. shiram says:

    DD gets 2 big wingers, which we’ve determined he needs to play to his best.
    Eller keeps the kids, why mess with something that works?
    Pleky’s line is a bit weirder, they are small, but I like the chance it gives to Bournival, and as he’s all energy it could work.
    The 4th is more of a mess, but that’s to be expected given the situation.

    Not the best scenario with the injuries, considering the Summit is just this week-end also.

  16. CalgaryHab says:

    Many would disagree but I think MB’s best move (thus far) is how he handle PK’s contract.
    Myself – I would have given PK what ever he was asking and many on this forum would have done the same – the guy is unreal. What the bridge contract will allow MB to do is to pay more per year and for a longer period on a “sure thing” instead of paying a lessor (but still a large sum) on ‘potential’. You take the sure thing every time even though it will cost more.
    Look at Edmonton and the amount of $ they have in Hall, Eberle and Nuge – I’m not convinced that any of them will reach their potential in dollar value that they are signed for. (Not with the way the Oilers are currently built anyway)
    I also believe by signing the bridge contract that PK was humbled and forced to mature a bit and by soing so was highly motivated to succeed. I don’t think we would have the same PK today as the one that would had signed what he was asking for.

    • BJ says:

      You are correct. Plus he would have had a cap problem last year and this year.

    • mfDx says:

      Ok, so hypothetically, PK might have taken $5mil X 6 yrs a year ago.
      MB offers $2.5 X 2 yrs.
      If he’s a Norris finalist again this year and 5 teams offer this free agent $8mil X 6, 7 or 8 yrs, what’cha gonna do?

      Sent from my CHphone

      • CalgaryHab says:

        In my opinion he is definitely worth the risk now. You make sure it never gets to the point of someone else making an offer.

      • doc359 says:

        Someone did an article on it a while ago, but if you think about how much we would have to pay after 2 5 year contracts instead of a 2 year, then an 8 year, the bridge contract saved a lot of money

    • Cal says:

      What the bridge contact does is keep room on the Cap to be able to operate this season without incurring cap penalties. PK is a really good player bordering on greatness. And the Habs will lock him up for 8 more years pretty soon. He will become highest paid Hab ever.

  17. BJ says:

    Wrong players called up. Aliu would have been the guy that most closely resembles Prust. Blunden skates well but most of his hits are 10% player 90 % boards.

  18. veryhabby says:

    ouch….so Blunden (a player not able to win a NHL 4th line duty) and Holland are our call ups. Shows that things in Hamilton going a tad slower then expected. Where are our “key ” offensive guys… Thomas, LL, Natineen etc. This season starting as badly as last season went with the Dogs. Wonder when people will start pointing the finger at the coach(s). Yes for 2 yrs it’s a young team, and lots of changes…but I think those excuses will end soon.

    Drafting poorly in 2008-2009 is now showing up. If not for later drafted players in the 2 Gally’s and a traded prospect (Bournival) we’d be in even bigger trouble. This is the time these draft picks should be stepping in. LL has lost it, and we had no 1st the year before (but we had Kristo, who is gone but not ready either)

    • J_P says:

      Briere is going to be replaced by a current player in the line up, which means were filling out the bottom-6. You wouldnt bring up dumont or LL, who have precisely one point between them in 4 games so far this season, to play 4th line duty. Well, at least I wouldnt lol

      • doc359 says:

        LL also has been forced to play with the team enforcers. Not exactly the right mix of wingers for him to start producing.

        If he gets top line minutes with the callups gone now, it’ll hopefully result in some better production

        • J_P says:

          Well that certainly explains his stat line. Thanks for that, I dont really watch the ahl games or follow that closely. I figured he was getting quality minutes down there.

          Still doesnt justify a call up for him.

    • krob1000 says:

      I think it is safe to say any AHL player was unable to win NHL 4th line duty no?

  19. Timo says:

    Man, I don’t look forward to Habs playing Ducks and Sharks this week. It will be ugly. Two very fast, hard hitting, aggressive AND talented teams.

  20. frontenac1 says:

    The Goat! He”s a dork that never played the game and treated players and coaches like sh#t.

    • Timo says:

      In itself I don’t see a problem with that if he got results. But he didn’t. So he is just another in a string of bad GMs Habs had for the past 20 years.

      • dr. gesundheit says:

        Daffy-nately among the worst of the Bad GM group.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Yet based on your posts you are eager to have a can tied to MB’s foot and start again with another GM, that is the part I don’t get Timo. At least MB has acknowledged publicly the team has to get bigger and baby steps are being made towards this, as evidenced through draft etc…. A teams roster cannot be turned over in 1 or 2 seasons, particularly with a salary cap.

        Changing GM’s again, only further puts us behind the 8 ball.

        • Max_a_million says:

          There’s no evidence we are getting bigger and tougher. The signings we are making are small guys who aren’t as talented as their contracts and a few OLD big guys who can’t play.

          Please provide evidence of this great albeit slow migration to bigger and tougher.

        • Timo says:

          So what that he acknowledges? Sheesh… A 5 year old can see everything that’s wrong with the Habs. Some accomplishment.

          I agree with his philosophy of building through draft, but I disagree that you can’t use free agents (the good ones, not Briere ones) to make team better in a mean time. I am not one to give GMs 3-4 years to prove that they suck. Why wait another year to realize that he is not going to achieve much when there is plenty of evidence already. How many mistakes does a GM has to make before he is declared useless?

          We typically give very little slack to players… 2-3 bad games and you’re outta of here. It’s a business now, so results are in order. So far, as far as I am concerned the team hasn’t improved from last season.

          Do you get a feeling with disagree on a topic of Bergevin, Burly?

      • DipsyDoodler says:

        A dork who disses Habs’ players and coaches you say …

  21. krob1000 says:

    These injuries are not the worse thing that could happen developmentally to the team. It could possibly put this season in jeopardy OR maybe the kids step up and keep the team above water until they return and the team is stronger moving forward for it.

    PROS: Kids get a chance to carry heavier load, better evaluation period for some players than would have gotten this season if healthy.
    Prust while healing his right shoulder should also now have time for his left shoulder to heal properly…could be a blessing in disguise for him.
    Briere already appeared to be playing hurt as his skating was not Briere like. He too may be able to have the rest of his body heal.
    Kid line going to get invaluable experience in trying to carry heavier workload and will have to fend for themselves…sink or swim time physically. Galchenyuk like Eller before him needs to work on utilizing his size to protect puck as stick skills are only half of the battle in the NHL….more playing time speeds this process.
    Price will have opportunity to grab bull by the horns

    Cons
    In tough to maintain current pace (some will view as a pro though..tankers you know who you are! and yes, I was all aborad the tanking ship for Galchenyuk once it became apparent team was in hole too much but for God’s sake we are 3 weeksin only)).
    Missing all of the tougher guys the team is missing temporarily puts some of the better players in a less protected environment and hoepfully noone gets hurt as teams take liberites against them.

    • The Jackal says:

      Good post Krob.

      One thing that bothers me about the panic-button style comments is that they suggest that our season is over and that we won’t win squat. But we are not contenders this year anyway, we were in tough to make noise from the get-go. I think the Habs are a good team, one that makes the playoffs and makes life difficult for whatever team they face. But we still have a few gaps in our D and forward lines that need to be filled in before we go all the way. And if we don’t win the cup, does it really matter how far you go? The bright side of a poor season is a high draft pick, and that would help us out a lot. The bright side of a good season sans cup is that the team’s confidence increases and it suggests we are close.

      Either way, Murray, Emelin, and Parros will be back sooner rather than later, and the injuries to Prust and Max are not long-term. We’ll be fine.

      ______________________
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      • krob1000 says:

        I would prefer the injuries now instead of what happened last season. Let’s say this team does get carried by the kids and the key players right now, then you add the grit and physicality of the other guys. You have now had a chance to evaluate everyone against real game competition….I would beg to differ because it would be an accelerated growth period for the young core that matters and have been a huge character boost for them. At that point you could consider the team contenders if they addied a piece or two…I think this team (when healhty) is closer than people think….there are a ton of assets at MB’s disposal and every game PK, Eller, Galchenyuk, PRice and Gallagher seem to get better…they key will be them getting better before Gio, Pleks and Markov,etc are gone or rendered less effective.

  22. Sportfan says:

    This will be very interesting to watch while Prust is out. Anyone out there that the Habs could pick up?

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  23. adamkennelly says:

    You acknowledge that your team lacks toughness – you make some moves to address – guys get hurt and then you seemingly give up on that plan…I don’t get it. grab Staubitz off waivers, or bring up Tarnasky but please do something…Prust out 4 weeks and Parros will likely not see any more action in 2013 – so we play our next 15 games with Ryan White as our toughest player?????

    • Timo says:

      It is clear that Moen’s resurrection lasted for grand total of 2 games. Habs have guys who can fight, but right now they don’t an answer to Colton Orr’s of the league. But as far as dropping gloves I still think there are guys in the lineup who are more than capable – White, Moen, Bouillon, Tinordi and last but not least DD. Yes, I believe there is an inner Domi hidden somewhere inside of Little Davey.

      • adamkennelly says:

        Little Davey could definitely kick my ass on skates but not sure that is of much benefit to the team. I’m less concerned about guys “dropping the gloves” and more concerned, as I have been for years – about the way our opponents view our team…sure some guys can fight but with no prust and no parros and no ememlin and no murray if you are the opposition – you got yourself NO PROBLEMS….open season on anyone and everyone…

  24. Caesar says:

    Not sure if this is posted yet but Gazette and CTV saying Prust gone for 1 month–right shoulder.

  25. Sportfan says:

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  26. Max_a_million says:

    I know that Marc Bergevin seems like a wonderful guy who is handsome and has a wonderful personality. Pierre Gauthier made one catastrophically bad move and was involved with another. I wonder how much we judge people on their personalities.

    Players added by MB –
    Prust – definite plus, luckily he is dating a french girl. A+ for MB
    Bouillon – B- not bad
    Briere – F
    Murray – Incomplete
    Parros – Incomplete
    Galchenyuk – not much work involved as luck in letting him fall to us. A+ for MB

    Players added and let go:
    Armstrong
    Halpern
    Ryder

    the difference makers he has added Prust and Glachenyuk came with a lot of good luck. I don’t see anything incredible that he has done. I don’t see depth of toughness.

    Contract Extensions
    Pacioretty – 27 million 6 years A+ a great deal
    DD – 14 million 4 years
    Moen – 7.4 million – 4 years
    Gorges – 23.4 million for 6 years
    Price – 39 million for 6 years

    I like the Price deal and the Gorges deals, but they aren’t steals by any means. I think Gorges probably gets more than he is worth. The Desharnais deal is going to hurt our team as will the Moen deal.

    I don’t see anything so wonderful that MB has done to make us tougher and better. PG guys
    Gallagher, Eller, Tinordi, Beaulieu, Subban, Emelin, …
    These are the kind of guys that have toughness and can play. we need more of these guys.

    • Max_a_million says:

      another PG player – Bournival

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Didn’t PG do the Gorges contract? SO your saying you think PG should have stayed in the job? No doubt PG knows hockey, there is a reason he has been in MGMT at NHL level for years. But he certainly didn’t know much about treating people with much respect. Seemed like an arrogant SOB to most people, and for that alone I like the fresh air MB brought to the team.

      Also PG had years and years to put his fingerprints on the team, and only in the last year did he start to make moves for physically imposing players.

      I have zero desire to see this team start over with another GM again, we have done far too much of that in the last 20 years.

      Give MB 3-4 years at least. Every GM makes a bad move or two, hopefully they aren’t critical.

      The Gomez trade in hindsight, was indeed Critical.

      • Max_a_million says:

        No way. I like Marc Bergevin, and I very much want him to be successful. I find it funny that he gets so much credit for so little accomplishment thus far. I think it is because he is a nice, handsome, gregarious man’s man everyone wants to be friends with. Pierre Gauthier on the other hand was a geek. He would sit alone down here at hockey games. The kind of guy people don’t want to hang out with. As much as he was hated, he made some really good moves too that were tough and people did not like. He signed lot of great young players with the help of Timmons, we have so much great young talent now.
        Bournival for O’Byrne
        Eller for Halak

        I think there should be some balanced perspective based upon facts, not on how we perceive people.

        Yes Gauthier deserved to be fired and Kaberle was inexcusable. He didn’t do the Gomez deal, but probably deserves some blame.

        I’d like to see MB pick up his game.

        • Timo says:

          I agree. While there is no big love here for PG, it is clear that current Habs core that makes this team somewhat worthwhile watching has been brought to you by Mr. Gauthier.

          And SIX years for Gorges?! Holy freak. That’ unreal. How many more of these 6 years is left?

        • J_P says:

          I like MB just because he restored some much needed class to this organization. With Gainey and PG this organization was really turning mickey mouse.

          The way PG handled himself in his final season was disgusting.

          Yes, bergevin made a few moves that I dont like. I hate that he held out on PK, forcing PK into a bridge, only to hand desharnais an extension when there was no urgency to sign him to it (he was RFA, and having a bad season, so why sign him to the extension mid-season?). I also hate the briere signing on the grounds that he spoke about bigger and tougher (yet got rid of cole that facilitated the briere signing), and briere snubbed us for philly last time he was UFA (once again, the habs taking another franchises garbage).

          However, its still early in his tenure. We won the northeast last season, and are off to a decent start this season, so lets see how he gets on before judging too much.

        • desertman says:

          The manner in which you conduct yourself is half the battle. We all like Eller now, but at the time he should have created a market before moving one of the hottest goalies in the league.

          Pierre Gauthier was the one who apparently insisted on getting rid of McDonagh in the Gomez deal, citing he was developing too slow and would be a fringe NHLer.

          Pacioretty – steal

          Gorges – PG

          Moen – Fair deal, solid player, he had a bad season last year (a lot of vets did) but the guys has been solid for us since we picked him up. He was awesome his first 3 years. Plus hes from Saskatchewan and the best hockey players come from Saskatchewan.

          The only decision I don’t like is the DD signing, and even then, its not like he handicapped us for years like the gomez acquisition. Regardless of what posters here think, I think he can be moved when the time comes.

          Briere is a stop gap, low-risk high reward signing. He went after the big player in vinny, and it didnt work out. I rather that than overpaying for a career third liner in the form of clarkson.

          I don’t really like therien either but better him than hartley. \

          Overall, I think hes doing a great job. Building through the draft and managing to put a somewhat competitive team on the ice at the same time.

  27. Danno says:

    There is such a thing as bad luck

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  28. Eddie says:

    what ended up happening to Ben Eager?
    he’s in the AHL in Oklahama?
    we should have claimed him on waivers.
    I would throw him on our 4th line.

    he’s nuts. but he is an NHL skater.

    what are they smoking in Edmonton? hahaha! Their team lacks toughness but Eager is shown the door? Anyone know what happened there?

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Cleared waivers, now playing for the Oklahoma City Barons in the AHL, Edmontons farm team.

      As a replacment for Prust he would be a good substitute. 1.2 million caphit, so about 900K could be buried in Hamilton after Prust returns.

      • Eddie says:

        Burly, can you make it happen, bro?

        We must be missing something? Like he slept with the President’s wife or something?

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I saw a report on him heading into Oilers main camp and apparantly he had dropped some weight and was in great shape, looking to make the club.

          Yah don’t quite get it either. Looking through the OKC Barons site, nary a mention when he was re-assigned there. You would think the AHL club would be excited to get a player like that on their roster.

      • DipsyDoodler says:

        The Barons is such a 1970s name isn’t it?

        The Chrysler LeBaron.

        The Cleveland Barons.

        Good name.

    • Timo says:

      No one was eager to sign him (Booyah… man, I kill myself)

    • Rad says:

      They acquired that big Gazdic kid, who has acquitted himself well. Younger and a more willing combatant than Eager, and skates just as well. Good pick-up for Edmonton.

    • Ron in Ottawa says:

      We have plenty of guys who can play on the 4th line. but our depth on the top 3 lines is horrible. We can build through e draft but unless we fall out of the playoffs for several years like the Oilers, it will take another 20 years without the cup. So sooner or later MB will need to make some trades and he’ll have to deal some talent to get talent back. I think Markov and Bourque are expendable now because we might get someone worthwhile for them. No use dreaming we can package DD and Moen and bring in Crosby in return.

    • Ron says:

      Staubitz has cleared wavers today so MB passed on him also. They say Eager has had so many concussion problems that he has not been looking to make fighting his only attribute so he was replaced with one that would.

  29. galchenyuk27 says:

    You guys are always so negative I watched a Ton of Holland’s games in the dub and he’s a stud his playmaking skills r elite for his age if put on the proper line he will sky rocket very happy to see MB give him a chance but where is hudon playing this year still the Q can we call up juniors for 9 games or is that last minute desperation thing cause I remember Calgary calling up baertschi at the end of there year when he tore it up

  30. CalgaryHab says:

    “Briere out indefinitely”
    Should have started a pool on how many games in that this was going to happen. I don’t wish the guy any ill will but I thought it was a terrible signing and I was hoping to be proved wrong. Probably better off his spot is available to anyone with more hussle.

    Unfortunately it seems that all of MB’s signings have the prerequisite of ‘must be injured or prone to injury’

    I still think the future is bright…

  31. Luke says:

    For those who want Trevor Gillies on the roster, looks like he may become available. Y’know… pending the results of the Poplice Investigation:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/police-investigating-trevor-gillies-sucker-punch-jarkko-ruutu-144206691–nhl.html

  32. The Jackal says:

    As annoying as it is to hear the panicky comments re. the Habs and management and what have you, this is still the best Habs site.

    Just tried to read EOTP but could not finish any article because Berkshire’s arrogance just seeps through whatever he writes.
    Tried the HF Boards yesterday but the forum/thread format is too disjointed, IMO.

    Long live HIO!

    ______________________
    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

  33. Max_a_million says:

    Canadiens Penalties and minutes
    (only one goalie interference call)
    Fighting – 9 – 45 min
    Tripping – 8 – 16 min
    Hooking – 6 – 12 min
    Holding – 5 – 10 min
    Interference – 5 – 10 min
    Game Misconduct – 1 – 10 min
    High Stick – 3 – 8 min
    Too Many Men – 2 – 4 min
    Unsportsmanlike – 2 – 4 min
    Roughing – 2 – 4 min
    Boarding – 2 – 4 min
    Delay Game – 2 – 4 min
    Equipment – 1 – 2 min
    Gaolie Interference – 1 – 2 min
    Cross Check – 1 – 2 min
    Diving – 1 – 2 min
    Elbowing – 1 – 2 min

  34. The Jackal says:

    How is it Bergevin’s fault that the Habs are all of a sudden without “tough guys?” It’s just bad luck, and it’s not as if they won’t come back soon.

    And to those saying MB has failed… what are you smoking? Please stop doing meth.

    MB has already succeeded in making the team grittier and tougher to play against, FFS, some of the same people crying at these injuries are the same people who praised the Habs’ character and newfound grit from the new additions to the team. Jesus, get a grip folks, nothing has happened that is jeopardizing the season.

    ______________________
    Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Your defense of Bergevin is fair. Your critism of folks who aren’t neccesarily in your camp is not.

      Those of us not on meth can see logic in the critism of the DD contract and the Briere signing. Two of his biggest moves along with the Prust signing. One move looks great and two moves are not looking particually good at this time. I think fair critism is just as warranted as blind faith.
      CHeers.

      • Eddie says:

        You’re not on Meth, Jim? I’m shocked! It’s the latest thing.

        hahaha!!

      • The Jackal says:

        Haha, you’re right, did not mean to sound rash. I’m not criticizing them, I’m just criticizing their reactions. Their criticisms of those moves are based on hindsight, at the time of the DD signing, he was playing well and had come off a 60 point season, and had proven he has what it takes to overcome adversity and play in the NHL.

        Briere is a proven NHL talent with a knack for scoring timely goals and setting up teammates. He is coming off a bad season and needs to get his confidence back after that season and being bought out. Can’t make a call on the Briere deal yet, but it was a decent move for a 2 year solution while we get our young guys ready – 4 mil cap hit is not bad to take a chance on Briere.

        ______________________
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    • The Cat says:

      I dont know about bad luck, a GM (if he can) has to plan for bad luck, one must expect it. It was no secret that Prust was banged up going into the season. I did say he’d be lucky to play 40 games this year, plus the question mark that was Moen, so MB could’ve tried for more depth toughness as opposed to Briere.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  35. oldtimerguy says:

    gotta love habs fans….prust goes down and we are no longer a contender…LOL….

    People, give your heads a shake…this team is just not top calibre and wont be for another 2-4 yrs… 2 at the earliest and that’s still not likely…

    the overpaid soon to be over the hill vets need to be dealt at the deadline…its all rather elementary my dear Watson…we will not win with them anytime soon and they are diminishing returns to be sure…the real question I have is; why would you keep these guys if you are not winning a cup with them in the next few yrs? is it so we can be respectable in the regular season and hope to make the playoffs?

    • Eddie says:

      maybe it has to do with the $20,000 people are paying for seasons’ tickets, the sponsors, the tv contracts, and all the other stakeholders who expect the Habs to at least field a competitive team every year.

  36. Timo says:

    Hah… according to Gaston Therrien this is what Habs are practicing.

    10:48 5 vs 0 sur le PP

    11:04 5 vs 0 en sortie de zone

    Guess you gotta start somewhere.

  37. MtlCANADIENS93 says:

    I love it how nothing goes the habs way. clearly that hit on briere was brutal bcz the puck wasnt even in sight, and nystrom clearly sees him from a distance and decides to blind side him. NO CALL, or suspension or atleast a fine.

    in my mind thats bs

  38. Timo says:

    So any word on length of Briere’s absence?
    And more importantly any word on when Parros, Emelin and Murray will be ready to play again?

  39. jedimyrmidon says:

    Sometimes it’s hard not to feel like the league is mocking the Habs:

    – They’re consistently called a ‘small’ team that uses its speed and YET they are probably one of the most penalized teams in the league. The two descriptions aren’t compatible! Especially when I bet the Habs get called for interference more than other teams that are bigger and slower.

    Seriously, it’s almost as if because people have labelled the Habs as smaller that they are allowed to interfere with them more because it’s ‘natural’ that bigger, stronger players can [literally] hold off smaller skilled players.

    – And then there’s the Briere and Gorges hits to the head that 1) aren’t deemed penalties and 2) aren’t even looked at by the league. So many bad hits this season leading to concussions and ALL have led to some sort of suspension except for the Briere one. Seems like the Habs are always on the receiving end of such ‘hockey plays’.

    You know how the Habs don’t have an enforcer to protect the players because he was taken out? Well, the league isn’t there to pass judgement on dangerous hits to Habs players either.

    Okay, so what I wrote above might be a bit exaggerated. I would be highly surprised if there some league-wide conspiracy. However, I am genuinely curious that it seems the Habs are the victims of league inaction where the benefit of the doubt is given to the opposing player/team. ‘No Excuses’ as a motto can only withstand so much before your team is rendered helpless by non-calls.

    • TheDagger says:

      Briere’s hit wasn’t so bad to me, more incidental contact. But the hit on Gorges was blatantly a headshot.

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        On the most basic level, a guy who doesn’t have the puck (and isn’t even near to having it) shouldn’t be on the receiving end of a headshot leading to a concussion. It just doesn’t make sense ESPECIALLY considering Nystrom saw Briere.

        Even if Briere didn’t see Nystrom, that doesn’t mean Nystrom can step into Briere, much less get him ‘accidentally’ in the head. Nystrom, by not stepping out of the way (and by leaving his feet on the hit), did the same thing as going out of his way to give Briere a headshot. Of course, the league doesn’t understand this sort of distinction.

    • It’s enough to make a guy paranoid. =/

      DDonais

  40. Harditya says:

    Losing Prust for a month is a huge, huge loss. Next 3 weeks will be tough without Prust, Pacioretty and..well it’s a long list of injured players. Kids will have to step up. Desharnais this is your chance, seize the opportunity.

  41. Eddie says:

    So I was curious about the “hits” stat from that Nashville game Saturday night. Here’s the stat page from the NHL.
    http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20132014/ES020113.HTM

    It shows Gabriel Bourque, for example, with 1 hit total.

    Well, lets see. Bourque took Gorges’ head off with that hit that every one saw, so I guess he didn’t hit another player before or after for the rest of the night?

    Ridiculous. And totally not accurate.

    • Cal says:

      You’ve pointed out why “advanced” stats and pretty much any hockey “stats” are inherently flawed.
      The people judging these things are incompetent, period. It seems like these “off-ice” officials don’t watch the bloody game.

  42. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    I just tried to explore some of the available UFAs on tsn.ca, and my browser crashed. Same thing happened to MB, no doubt.

  43. Max_a_million says:

    Parros – Out
    Prust – Out
    Murray – Out
    Moen – Worn out and disinterested
    Cole – traded for the right to sign Briere

    I don’t think Ryan White can handle being our heavyweight presence. Yikes Marc Bergevin, you are failing badly on making a tougher team to play against.

    • mrhabby says:

      so its MBs fault that the team has injuries ..yet your blaming him.

      • Max_a_million says:

        Yes I blame him for signing Daniel Briere.
        I blame him for the contract he gave to David Desharnais.
        I blame him for the Contract he gave Moen.
        I blame him for trading away Cole who if he is nothing else is a nasty son of a gun.
        Those are four places we could be tougher and thus have much more depth not leaving us so vulnerable.

        • mrhabby says:

          ur really into the blame game…wow. are u share holder or something…..its just a game nothing more nothing less..

          • habstrinifan says:

            He may have gone overboard in his venting and aggravation. But your response above is plain nonsense. “are you a shareholder or something?”… for heave’s sake.

          • mrhabby says:

            ya it was a bit much…but come on injuries are a part of the game and blaming management is dumb.

    • mount royal says:

      Yeah, MB is definitely responsible for all these tough guys getting hurt.

    • The Dude says:

      Gionta -short
      Desharnaise-really f’ing short

      Gallagher – a monster short fellow with a BIG PAIR!

      • bel33 says:

        Personally I blame their parents for their height… but we could strap that to MB as well… as this post started off the theme.

        – I’d buy that for a dollar! -

    • Cal says:

      Murray- back next week
      Parros- out for perhaps 2 more weeks.
      Habs are DOOOOOOOMED!
      MB is not responsible for causing player injuries.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Yep, Bergevin really dropped the ball when Parros fell on the ice.

      He also did terribly when he traded an underperforming and out-of-shape Cole for a fit, goal-scoring Ryder.

      C’mon Max, a little thought before writing please…

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Max_a_million says:

        The difference between Cole and Briere at their worst is that Cole scares people and he is tough to play against. Briere does not.

        We lost in the playoffs to Ottawa because we weren’t tough enough, and Ryder was useless. If you trade away Cole and let Ryder go, you don’t put Breire in that spot

        • Luke says:

          Since when did Cole become “nasty” and “scary”?

          If you think Moen is disinterested with the way he currently plays, than you must have missed Cole last year.
          Cole was brutal. You may not recall, because he did nothing worth recalling.

          Aside from Cole’s power move to the outside (which had vanished) he brings nothing scary or tough to the play.

          • Max_a_million says:

            I’ve played against Eric Cole … yes he is nasty. He made a lot of space and money for David Desharnais

  44. Timo says:

    You gotta wonder how many times Prust can injure the same shoulder before the shoulder says “enough”… I am done.

    Well… the way things are going I see a tank engine roaring loudly by December.

  45. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    Prust out 4 weeks with right shoulder injury. Sorry, I mean, upper body injury.

  46. Mattyleg says:

    So I had a peek at the NHL injury list:
    http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/injuries/nhl/all/

    There are 85 players listed as injured at this moment (4 suspended).
    Divide that by 30 teams, and you have a shade under 3 injuries per team, with only Ottawa, Phoenix, and LA as the lucky ducks who have no injuries (Colorado too, with only McLeod suspended)

    At the moment we’re in the lead (we’re #1!!) with 7 injuries, one more than Edmonton, and there are 4 other teams with 5 injured.

    Some of the injuries are long-term, and have already factored into team-building decisions (Pronger, Savard -Boston’s only current injury)

    For those of you saying we don’t have enough depth, I challenge you to identify a team who would be able to deal with 7 injuries by icing a full-strength team. 5 of our 7 injured are starters, not spare parts.

    We have been unlucky with injury (Prust and Pacioretty falling badly, Parros hitting the ice) and I don’t subscribe to this “we’re injury-prone!” mentality. The only player on our team who could be considered ‘injury prone’ is Brière, with his history of concussions.

    Hopefully we’ll get these injuries out of the way, and come back stronger for when we need to be fit, i.e. the end of the season. Look at Ottawa last year, hung in there with injuries, then came back strong at the end of the season, while we ran the opposite trajectory and fell short.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • naweed235 says:

      Nicely said!

    • The Dude says:

      COME ON,when in the last 20 years are the Habs not in the same mess …. Aswell,when in the last 20 years have the Habs had enough depth to deal with being accident prone???

      • Mattyleg says:

        1) What exactly makes us ‘accident-prone’?

        b) If we are, as you posit, ‘accident-prone’, how are we supposed to plan for this, taking into account the maximum number of players allowed on payroll, player development, and one-and-two-way contracts? Please elaborate.

        iii) What do you mean by ‘COME ON’? What have I said that is worthy of incredulity?

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Tuoms says:

        I recall the 2007-2008 season, where the habs finished 1st in the East. That year, the team got off relatively easy in terms of injuries, though it seems to be a reoccurring theme every season since.

        ~“There is no Leafs-Canadiens rivalry. It’s dead: The Leafs killed it.” – Ken Dryden~

    • Timo says:

      I would challenge you that Habs “full strength” team is not really a full strength team, Matty. Any team that Has Briere, DD, Diaz, Gorges, Bouillon is already in a disadvantage. THat’s not to mention that guys like Bourque, Plekanec and Gionta show up on less than consistent basis.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Hi Timo,
        What you’re saying has no bearing on what I was talking about.

        I was discussing injuries, while you are talking about the perceived strengths of our players, hoping to turn my post into yet another forum to vent about your pet-hate players.

        I challenge you to dicuss something else; the content of my post, for instance.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

  47. kalevine says:

    I did a doubletake when I saw that photo. Is it just me or is Bergevin looking more and more like Gauthier every day?

  48. DipsyDoodler says:

    I think it has been mentioned before, but when a team outhits the other it usually means the other team has more of the puck. Having the puck is good. So outhitting the other team (as we did against Nashville) is not a sign that you are doing well, but a sign that you are running around trying to get the puck off your opponents.

    The geeks use Fenwick to measure puck possession. Generally the teams with the puck win more games. The main moderators of this effect are your goalie, and your powerplay and pk performance.

    As you can see Fenwick is a pretty good indicator of team success:

    http://www.extraskater.com/teams/2013/5v5close?sort=fenwick_pct

    Habs are 3rd in the East behind Boston and P-burgh. 9 of the 10 bottom teams are also at the bottom of the standings. the only exception is Toronto, who will not make the playoffs at this rate.

    • Eddie says:

      I don’t know who counted the 10 hits for Nashville.

      I thought Gaustad had about 10 hits by himself, and on one shift I counted 3 for sure. Matt Hendricks had about 5 as well. And how many hits for Gabriel Bourque?

      10 hits for Nashville? Are you freakin kidding me?

      Those hit “counters” at the Bell Center might be imports from a Putin election or something.

      • doc359 says:

        That is the other problem with the hits stats, the actual definition of a hit seems to vary greatly depending on the arena.

        Either way, great to know we are doing well with getting shots on net.

      • Mattyleg says:

        That, Eddie, is the beauty of televised hockey.
        Because they show replays of hits over and over again, it creates a false memory.
        I was at the game, and my friend and I both remarked how non-contact the game was, with us going a bit harder into the boards than them.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Eddie says:

          I don’t know Matty. Non contact?

          Every time we had the puck we had a Nashville guy all over us and I seem to remember quite a few hits watching on live TV.

          I usually can get a decent feel for the hits – it’s something I watch rather closely.

          • Mattyleg says:

            ‘Non-contact’ was a relative statement meaning not a lot of big hits.

            They were often on top of us, but not hitting us that hard, we didn’t think.

            Anyway, as you and Front point out, it’s all relative. One man’s bodycheck is another’s mosquito-bite.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Luke says:

        This is why advanced stats are fundamentally flawed. The Stats keepers at each rink are inconsistent.

        Some of the hits by the Leafs in TO are not hits by anyone else in TO.

    • frontenac1 says:

      There are hits,and then there are HITS amigo. DD,Gio,Briere,Diaz hits are mosquito bites.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Not all hits have to be hard to be effective, Front.

        All they have to do is stop the player or separate him from the puck
        Bodychecks aren’t supposed to hurt opposing players, they’re just supposed to do those things.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • frontenac1 says:

          Exactly amigo! Have you seen DD or Diaz or Briere separate a player with the puck with their”hits” this year? Maybe Gio does once in awhile. Point is ,This hit count thing is questionable IMO.

          • Mattyleg says:

            Yeah, you’re right, it’s a bit inconsistent and subjective, for sure.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Ron says:

        I wouldn’t include Gio in that mix. When he can he hits, they might not be bone rattling but he hits and takes out his man. The other 3 I can agree on but not the mosquito moniker.

      • The Dude says:

        More like “No see’ems”!

  49. Regarding Seth Jones, I can remember distinctly some posts on here that were echoing the concerns about his fitness and, therefore, his work ethic. Comments included that he wasn’t cut like some of the others and his lines were too smooth. I think someone even posted that he looked like he sat on his couch and played videogames rather than practiced.

    For some reason, St. Patrick seemed to have some reservations about him and others were quick to follow suit.

    Just goes to show that appearances can be deceiving and all prospects are really diamonds in the rough. Some get polished and some don’t.

    *Edit* Just went back and found the thread: http://bit.ly/18Cyq0w

    DDonais

    • New says:

      For sure. Barkov and MacKinnon are doing fine as well. Some real good players in the 2013 draft. Makes you wonder though if the Avs would have taken the home town guy if Portland had turned the tables on Halifax in the Memorial Cup game. Instead of MacKinnon getting the hat trick say Jones had shut him down.

      I think Roy saw plenty of MacKinnon and not much of Jones while Sakic sees a lot of his development path in MacKinnon.

      Seems to be working out really well for both teams.

      • I agree. With the depth of that draft, it was hard to see how any one of the top three would have been a better choice than the others. So, it boils down to organizational need. It looked like the Avs had a lot of firepower and needed d prospects, so that’s the reason I saw for them to take Jones. But Roy was focused on MacK and Sakic said the forwards were ‘too good to pass up,’ or something like that. Great observation that Sakic saw something of himself in MacK. ;)

        DDonais

        • commandant says:

          Its more than just organizational need.

          Norris trophy caliber defencemen are often selected in rounds 2, 3, 4, and later.

          Art Ross Trophy forwards, not near as often (in fact Bryan Trottier is the lowest drafted player ever to win the award)

          If I have a top pick and there is a defenceman and forward available I take the forward every time and hope I can either trade one of my forwards for a proven D or develop that D internally.

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      • halifaxhab says:

        Roy watched Mackinnon 1st hand in the Q as Nate decimated Quebec in the playoffs 2 years in a row. I think his vote was based on just how clearly dominant Nate could be, and I bet familiarity played a role.

        I love Barry Manilow .

        -Scotty Bowman

    • Cal says:

      He is helped to look good by pairing with Shea Weber. Not saying he’s not a good prospect, but that fact helps Seth Jones big time.

  50. commandant says:

    PK Subban is proving he’s one of the league’s best
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/10/21/deal-with-it-subban-is-one-of-the-leagues-best/

    How good can Tavares Be
    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/10/21/how-good-can-john-tavares-be/

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  51. Rad says:

    Now that the Eller/Kids line has established itself as the Habs’ best offensive line, the issue is how does the team improve its 2nd line in the absence of Max Pacioretty. Who plays with Pleks and Gionta to make them a formidable line? Rene Bourque has been inconsistent his entire career, and even before his injury, Daniel “Over the Hill” Briere had not produced in Montreal. I thought he was a bad signing in the summer due to his age and past injuries. At first I applauded the Erik Cole trade, thinking Bergevin was saving valuable cap space and going to find a replacement that was better/younger. But the replacements, Ryder and then Briere, have been inadequate, definitely no improvements over Cole. Habs need one more, above-average Top 6 winger who can fill in for Pacioretty right now, and take over for Gionta next year.

    • commandant says:

      While Briere hasn’t gotten the job done so far (its been 8 games and he’s now hurt), I disagree that Ryder was inadequate last year, and that Cole was some great winger.

      People forget how bad Cole was last season, and he’s been nothing great to start this year in Dallas. People also forget that Ryder was amongst our leading scorers last year.

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      • Eddie says:

        I thought Ryder showed no character towards the end of last season and into the playoffs.

        There’s no place on my team for Michael Ryder. None.

        Also, Briere was a redundant signing – the last thing we needed was another small winger in our top 9 who had just come off of two straight concussion seasons.

      • Rad says:

        I didn’t say Cole was “some great winger.” I said the replacements were inadequate, sideways moves at best, rather than improvements. Ryder you will recall, disappeared at the end of last season and into the playoffs, nor was he re-signed, so I assume Bergevin himself thought he was inadequate.

      • Ron says:

        I don’t think its a matter of forgetting Ryder was amongst our leading scores as much as the fact he packed up and disappeared when the going got tough in the playoffs.

    • joeybarrie says:

      Erik Cole had one point in his first 8 games with the Habs. Briere has 3.
      So you are saying Cole would have been great to keep as compared to a player who is arguably doing better than he did in his first 8 games…..
      Give Briere a break. Let him settle in. It was the same with Cole.
      I always love when guys say a certain player is over the hill and then nothing is heard when they play well. Yet as soon as there is a little slump out come the “I told you so” comments….

  52. Habfan10912 says:

    Here’s my thought on these injuries. We’ve talked much about the play of Pleks, Gionta, Moen, DD and Bourque. They have to step up now and help this team until health returns. If not that MB clearly has got to realize that it’s rebuild options part II.

    I suspect there may still be some market value for Bourque, and Gionta.
    DD? Meh.

    • krob1000 says:

      Bouruqe is great value…not sure why they would want to trade him. His contract is a steal for a big, fast and pretty consistent 20 goal guy. He is a threat on 5 on 5 and exactly what the Habs wish tehy had more of.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        I don’t necessarily disagree with you but if these guys can’t start carrying their weight here this season and probably next is done. That means we’ll need player who will help in 3 and 4 years. I don’t see Bourque being a part of the future here.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Pleks has stepped up every season he’s played for us; he’s often been the only uninjured decent player on the team.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

  53. adamkennelly says:

    Prust out 4 weeks with shoulder injury..lovely….

  54. Been reading lot’s of posts and I just have to say MB looked tired and frustrated. He clearly knows where his team is at. No depth (consider gentlemen, that Hamilton was one of the worst teams last year and is on the same trajectory this year) reflected in the lack of scoring with the call ups in Blunden and Holland.

    Doesn’t bode well as the glass chin Canadiens don’t have depth, can’t seem to ice a full line and still haven’t figured out how to play 60 minutes (Hate those late goals against). Tankers may have a point, but we’ll be fighting for a playoff spot leaving MB with an ongoing headache.

    How about those refs though?!

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    • Mattyleg says:

      I don’t think that any team has enough real depth to cover all the injuries we’ve had.

      With the salary cap the way it is, and the amount of time it takes to develop young players, no team in the NHL can have enough to cover 7 injuries.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

  55. bwoar says:

    I can’t see this as a bad thing for Leblanc. He was sent to Hamilton to work on some things, and had work to do still. He’s not gonna get that chance playing 4th line minutes in Montreal where any mistake will be amplified 100x. When he gets back to Montreal, he’s gonna have to be Ready To Stay, and I don’t think they want to rush that.

    I’d guess the lines will be
    Kid Line
    Moen-Plekanec-Gionta
    Bournival-DD-Bourque
    Blunden-White-Holland

    That’s MT’s style; I’d swap Bourque and Moen but Plekanec’s line will be playing the major shutdown minutes and DD & Co. will earn the protected minutes.

    For discussion, I would arguably play
    Eller-Plekanec-Gionta
    Moen-DD-Bourque
    Bournival-Galchenyuk-Gallagher
    Blunden-White-Holland

    But of course there are good arguments against that. In the end there’ll be a line blender thing happenign and a bunch of combos are likely to be tried.

    “thoroughbred”

    • joeybarrie says:

      Agreed. I think a full season in Hamilton is what he needs. Confidence is key. And sending him up and down, especially when we need the bodies and will most likely struggle while we get healthy is not a good way to achieve that.
      I would like to see how he does in a full season and focuses on making the NHL for good next season.
      My feeling is that he can potentially be a 2nd or 3rd line player, but if he isn’t ready to be there right now, having him bang away on the 4th will only hurt his confidence.

  56. Phil C says:

    I like the Blunden call up. He has NHL speed and size (6’3″, 209 lbs) so he can bring a lot of energy to the fourth line, maybe wear down their D a little bit. He is a better fit with the current injury situation that Dumont, the Habs have lots of small speedy forwards right now. If DD was injured instead of Prust, maybe Dumont would make more sense.

    • Eddie says:

      I saw some excellent quickness in Holland’s game this pre-season. Not sure how he finishes and I really haven’t seen him often enough, but I liked his speed and quickness for sure.

      That’s what is setting these guys apart from Leblanc. Louis always had great offensive skills, but he is not a great NHL skater and he does not have the quickness that these guys have.

      Sorry to say because as a local player I watched Leblanc play his first Midget AAA game live and I’ve been a fan ever since.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Morning Eddie, do you think Leblanc could “reinvent” himself into a checking forward or 4th liner like Kyle Chipchira?

        • Eddie says:

          I really don’t know. I think he’s got good offensive instincts, but those types of players need to play top 6 or top 9 minutes, and especially, they need to play with other gifted players in order to succeed.

          He’s very bright. He understands the game. He knows his role and he can give you 3 zone defensive play.

          The Habs, and Therrien in particular, are very interested in speed; and frankly I don’t blame them.

          But not everyone who puts up points in hockey is the fastest skater on the ice; they need an offensive finish, they need offensive instincts and vision, and that’s Leblanc’s strength.

          A checking forward?

          I think Leblanc would rather be traded.

      • Phil C says:

        I liked Holland in the pre-season as well. He is also shifty with a lot of deception in his moves. He reminds me of another player, but I can’t put my finger on who.

        • desertman says:

          He skates like sergei kostitsyn / afinogenov with the deceptive speed and shiftiness. At least those are the guys he reminds me of. Hopefully being from North America means he works harder than those bums.

    • krob1000 says:

      Dumont does not play small, he is a very hard hitter and tough too…in his case his height is irrelevant IMO. HE skates his butt off and is willing to drop his mitts to defend a teamamte. He is a lot like Ryan White only his screws are done up a little tighter. Dumont can put points up as well and like Bournival could likely put up more points than people give him credit for if on a higher line.
      He led the bulldogs in scoring despite playing 15 games less than Bournival, he scored 50 in junior and IMO could be a 15-20 goal guy in the right situation…unfortunately for him I am not sure that situation ever happens in MOntreal.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        The few time I saw him play it seemed like he had a bit of an edge, huh Krob?

        • krob1000 says:

          since juior he has about 30 fights under his belt..5 last year in Hamilton. He loves to hit, he will not win many of his fights but he will not be pushed around and would likely be another guy willing to dow aht Gallagher does in wreaking havoc in opposing creases if given the opportunity to play such a role.

      • Phil C says:

        Dumont is tough, but he can’t play the physical game that Blunden can, getting in on the forecheck against the bigger defensemen, etc.

      • New says:

        I think you nailed it. The right place at the right time. If you’re Huberdeau or Barkov your creds give you a shot. The Dumonts and LLs of the world have to fight their way into the lineup. The world is full of guys who could or should have played in the NHL. You have to make the best of your chances. Blunden and Holland obviously have.

  57. frontenac1 says:

    Hola Amigos! Sweet Hands Blunden! Can Holland fight?

  58. sCOTT1243 says:

    Blunden is weak, has never shown that he belongs in the NHL…Not sure what they see in him.

    Maybe this would have been a good time to give Leblanc a chance, if he doesn’t step up, everyone would know his future with this club.
    Dumont would have also been a good call up.

    • halifaxhab says:

      Right now, Blunden and Holland have earned the call up over LL and Dumont.

      LL was told he gets called up if he earns it, and that call would be for the year. He hasn’t stepped it up yet.

      I love Barry Manilow .

      -Scotty Bowman

    • J_P says:

      I know its only 4 games in, but not only does LL not have any points, he doesnt even have a shot on goal.

      And this guy’s girlfriend thought he deserved to stick with the habs longer? More of the same from LL. Giving him the call up would be throwing him a HUGE bone, and frankly I dont think he deserves it.

      Besides, we needed guys for the bottom-6 anyways, which is more Blunden’s role.

  59. Mike D says:

    One question to the Commentariat:

    Which pair of players do you think would bring the most help on a call-up?

    a) Holland and Blunden
    b) Leblanc and Dumont

    – Honestly yours
    Twitter: @de_benny

  60. Cal says:

    Holland and Blunden? The season is saved!
    Kidding, but ain’t it sad that’s all there is on the farm?
    Blunden should play like a 4th line skating and hitting machine.

    • krob1000 says:

      Not really that sad…reality is what should have been on the farm at this time got good enough to play in the NHL very quickly in Bournival,Galchenyuk and Gallagher. There are other really good porspects in the system that are just further away (De La Rose, Collberg, Mccarron, THoms is hurt, Hudon,etc) . Dumont could easily step in IMO and LL would probably be ok if awoken with an NHl shot but they hvae to do things on merit and LL simply hasn’t earned it. He is in a tough situation….he put himself there but something has to give witht hat…maybe the time has come to trade him.
      MB has to be getting close to making some decisions with 8 games now played…a few more games and he will probably start fielding calls….won;t hit panic button as team is oding well but I think he still has some thins going on and is seriously looking at options both from within and from around the league.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Cal, We will be all right my friend. Don’t forget our advantage. We wear the Red White Blue and Price.! We will be OK.
      The DaneGGer Line is still in tacked as well.

      Only 4 more sleeps here.
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  61. Walmyr says:

    Good morning people…

    Any news regarding Prust?…it’s a new injury or his “old” problem got worse?

    cheers

  62. lakechamplain says:

    Don’t have to read between the lines to see that this is not a good reflection on Louis LeBlanc; simply put, he’s not living up to the expectations and that only increases the pressure he’s under. Also discouraging the way the Bulldogs have started the season. Understand they’re already without players they had thought would be in their lineup but still am wondering, what about all that talent that seemed to be on display at the rookie camp last month? Is the cream of that crop at the next level down, or in Europe like Colberg? I don’t think the Canadians are suffering an inordinate number of injuries relative to other teams in the league but here is where oraganizational depth is on display. Do the Habs have it(depth) or not this year. Looks like we’re going to find out.

  63. Mike D says:

    Morning all.

    Was kinda hoping LL would have got the call. I realize his stats/play so far this year in Hamilton are sub-par, but I think what the kid needs more than anything is a boost to help his game.

    – Honestly yours
    Twitter: @de_benny

  64. Timooo says:

    Briere is the new Gomez! Yeahhhh!

  65. The Dude says:

    What a repetitive $hit show! Hey M.B. ,start building the team into the twin of the San Jose Sharks or go home!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Out of curiosity, are you willing to give MB as much time to build a team in Montreal as San Jose gave Doug Wilson?

      • The Dude says:

        I would be if he would sign the right players and trade the wrong players …but he wavers too much. Gorges at $ 4 mil was just wrong, Price “who’s playing better for now ” Still is not worth $6 .5 mil per and Danny B= WTF.
        Look at the Avalanche and Roy = RESULTS!

        • Mike D says:

          It was PG who gave Gorges that contract, not MB.
          Danny B. was a terrible signing though so I’ll give you that.

          – Honestly yours
          Twitter: @de_benny

        • halifaxhab says:

          Did you say the same thing when Tremblay won his 1st 6 games of the season in Montreal? Six games a season does not make.

          I love Barry Manilow .

          -Scotty Bowman

        • HabinBurlington says:

          In general I like the moves MB has made, but the Briere signing and the DD contract are questionable. I think in the big picture he is making good moves, but it does take 3-4 years for a GM to put his stamp on the team.

          I know you don’t like Price, but he has looked good to start the year. The team needs more depth and size, but these things will take time.

          Appreciate and respect your response Dude, hey you going to be at the Summit?

          • The Dude says:

            Yo….never said I don’t like Price when he plays clutch ;) Thanks for the invite but living poor and raising more children on Paradise”Vancouver Island”so don’t have the scratch for what sounds like a hoot of a Habs gathering…till I come out with a kicka$$ phone app …… respect.

        • Cal says:

          Wait until December and we’ll see where the Avs are then. Last season, the Sharks started with 7 wins. Did they even make the playoffs?

  66. Timooo says:

    We may want to look at a new jersey patch….FRAGILE: Handle with care! Wow, we can’t stay healthy.

  67. Danno says:

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  68. HabinBurlington says:

    Some interesting tidbits from around the league by Edmonton Journal writer, Jim Matheson.

    http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/10/21/this-n-that-edmonton-oilers-would-jump-at-chance-to-acquire-shawn-matthias/

  69. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    Twelfth!

  70. HabinBurlington says:

    After watching Seth Jones and seeing the big minutes he is playing, I wonder if Colorado has any regrets not taking him. I realize Avalanche are playing great, also realize Mackinnon is going to be an excellent player, but given the talents of O’Reily, Duchesne, Landeskog etc… wonder if having that big stud Defenceman may be tempting now.

    Anyways, it appears the Preds have a perfect compliment for Weber now.

    • Maksimir says:

      After watching Jones… I wish Habs had tanked again… though they need forwards more than D.

    • mdp2011 says:

      Morning HiB. Yeah, I thought the same thing, not for Colorado as I think Mackinnon will be a superstar. I was wondering how did Florida, and Tampa pass on this guy.

    • Thomas Le Fan says:

      Well, as you say the Avs are doing very well. However, I wonder if the Oilers are wondering why they took so many high scoring young forwards with their numerous #1’s. A defenceman or a goaltender may have been an astute pick.

      There is no crying in baseball, “i” in team or “chuck” in Galchenyuk but … there is fighting in hockey.

    • DipsyDoodler says:

      On the other hand Columbus foolishly selected a d-man ahead of Galchenyuk. You can never tell. Sure looks like the Florida teams made a mistake, esp. Tampa.

      • Luke says:

        We’ll see if Drouin pops 40 goals and 100 points if its still a mistake…

      • Thomas Le Fan says:

        Sure but the Oilers have had how many #1’s in a row? Look how well that’s worked out. Winning begins at the back end.

        There is no crying in baseball, “i” in team or “chuck” in Galchenyuk but … there is fighting in hockey.

  71. Maksimir says:

    Guess LeBlanc has not stepped up in Hamilton (0 points in 3 games)… Blunden is solid on 4th line and Holland can fill in on the 3rd.. so

    EGG line
    Plex-Gio-Bourque
    Holland-DD-Bournival(?)
    Blunden-White-??

    who am I missing?

  72. krob1000 says:

    MB agenda…heart to hearts with Aliu adnd Leblanc (likely make decision on Aliu). Assess LL and Aliu after talking to both before…
    I think Dumont will likely get call regardless and the other spot is a toss up between LL, Aliu and he probably wants to see if Andrighetto is strong enough on the puck so as to not weaken an already physically challenged lineup even more?
    Dumont is feisty and while no Brandon Prust can be a sparkplug at times and definitely adds physical play despite his size.
    Interested to see….MB could decide he wants noone and pull the trigger on a deal…pretty important trip tot he HAmmer fols…he has a lot to assess with LL, Aliu, Andrighetto, Holland,etc.

    EDIT…Wrong Holland and Blunden…surprised…thought Dumont was a given. Still think he is going to have a chat with LL and Aliu though….decide if to sign Aliu and maybe talk about LL and whether he wants to be in Montreal any longer? bring BG for a walk with LL? something has to get the kid going….he is an NHLer and willbe …starting to think it will be elsewhere though.

  73. adamkennelly says:

    Blunden and Holland eh? that should help…stick to your plans MB – who is going to stop our boys from getting smacked around now?

    White – not quite, Tinordi – don’t think so…I know…how about Staubitz and Tarnasky…anyone think Blunden and Holland will be potentially more useful to our team in the next few weeks – me thinks not!

    • mount royal says:

      Last time I watched Blunden, I thought `He`ll never make it`. Suspecting a call-up I looked at the Hamilton stats this weekend. Blunden has started off very well He`s also quite a hefty guy. Maybe he is over the hump. Sometimes big guys take a longer time to get full coordination. Just from his record, Holland clearly is a very good playmaker. He probably needs to put on another 15-20 pounds if he is to play in the NHL.

  74. SUMO says:

    TSN690 reporting Patrick Holland and Michael Blunden called up.

  75. HabinBurlington says:

    Morning everyone!


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