Bergevin finalist for NHL’s GM of the Year Award; Subban joins Team Canada

Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin held his end-of-season press conference Monday in Brossard after the NHL announced that he is a finalist for the 2013 General Manager of the Year Award along with Bob Murray of the Anaheim Ducks and Ray Shero of the Pittsburgh Penguins. The award is voted on by the 30 NHL GMs and a panel of NHL executives and members of the print and broadcast media.

It was also announced on Monday that Canadiens defenceman P.K. Subban will join Team Canada for the remainder of the World Hockey Championship in Stockholm and will join the squad in time for Thursday’s quarterfinal game.

While the bulk of the Canadiens players are signed for next season, Bergevin will have decisions to make this offseason on a number of restricted and unrestricted free agents.

The GM’s first order of business will be dealing with Tomas Kaberle, who has one year remaining on a contract the Canadiens acquired from the Carolina Hurricanes. Bergevin is expected to save $4.25 million in cap space by using his second amnesty buyout on Kaberle. He used the first one before this season started on Scott Gomez.

Yannick Weber will be a restricted free agent in July. Jeff Halpern, who has changed addresses five times since 2010, would like to stay in Montreal. Fourth-liner Colby Armstrong is also hoping to stay.

There will be at least one spot available on the top two lines because unrestricted free agent Michael Ryder is likely on his way out of town.

(Photo by John Kenney/The Gazette)

Who stays and who goes? by Pat Hickey

Injury report: fascinating and squeamish, by Pat Hickey

Price faces the bright lights again, by Dave Stubbs

Price’s comments should set off alarms, by Jack Todd

Eller has no memory of check, by Brenda Branswell

Bounced Habs go home to heal, by Pat Hickey

Comments from Canadiens’ locker room

Photo gallery of Habs clearing out lockers

Emmy winner Pierre McGuire weighs in on Habs, by Stu Cowan

Video: Lars Eller speaks to media

1,144 Comments

  1. Clay says:

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    ☞ “The deepest sin of the human mind is to believe things without evidence” ~ Aldous Huxley ☜

  2. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    I think The Duke has gone off his meds. Time to make the “I” in HIO stand for “Intervention”.

  3. The Dude says:

    And this is why you don’t hire Ex-players to be the Management. They always take the players side”union bro’s” . Carey Price just admitted he can’t take the heat of being adoured by his wee lil pricebots in Hockey Mecca Montreal and missed being Anonymous ‘like when he’s at the Rodeo ?’ Carey watch the Play-offs and what other Goalies are doing to help the pressure.. ‘STOP THE F’n PUCK ,Choke Boy!’
    Bergevin gave credit to Ottawa… Ya they can win when they’re missing 1/2 the team cus their Big Guys can play too and fight!
    I said from the beginning of the season our D was too small and soft and that if Begervin didn’t get more size with truculence we once again would be victims to the injury bug’with the chance of having another Pax type injury = Eller’…and our pay back to that was a quick play-off exit. And ‘NO’ you can’t have a small fast team in todays NHL , ask the G.M. in Vancouver. Bergevin has made it worse for himself and not for me, because I’ve been conditioned in the last 20 years to watch Aholes destroy my Habs and I’m still here…but if Bergevin doesn’t do his job correctly and address the short comings then HE’S A GONER in the Chump Pile ‘just like the rest of them’
    One more thing… Mr Carey Price ,at $6.5 million per season maybe get a caretaker to do your shopping, just put an Add in the Gazette”F’n rich Rodeo Star needs caretaker to do shopping,cleaning,driving ,autograph signings and stop pucks in pressure games,…must look like Carey Price’

    • habs_54321 says:

      it’s true carey is not the only goalie with pressure look at la when quick let in that bad goal in game 1 everyone was bickering about it but he shut them up quick with his play and didn’t cry about it. Im encouraged to see price making the comments that he can be better though, he is finally taking responsibilty for his own play. I expect him to have a very good year next year.

    • ZepFan2 says:

      All I read is, blah blah blah Price blah blah, blah blah blah.

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  4. Maritime Ron says:

    I’ m a bit of a newbie around here, yet have played the game and watched the game for a while.

    This is a great site – very, very smart folks and very witty people, yet there is no doubt this site is infiltrated by supposed, and NON Habs fans that camouflage themselves as something else.

    Take the character Kimo -Hemo-Gimo -Timo or whatever he/her calls himself/herself with the dude gravitar.
    Has that cat ever said anything positive about the Habs?

    Warranted criticism is always welcome with a plan of action or alternatives proposed, yet outright negativism (designed or planned) is an intellectually poor man’s sport.

    Some of the one liners are cute…as is from Cris Roch, Groucho Marx, and Lindsay Loham, but where’s the beef?

    I challenge that one any time of the day….

  5. SteverenO says:

    @ Loonie

    you wrote;

    Last week these same “stats” showed Colby Armstrong as our best player defensively.

    Wildly flawed.

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    Armstrong was our most effective forward defensively ta even strength during the regular season.and he performed very well in that role during the playoff series as well.

    The point was that Desharnais, who played 55 even strength minutes and was only one the ice for one goal, while his line scored two goals had a relatively strong playoff series. Had all the other players been equally as effective we would have won the series.

    You can (try to ) argue about offensive versus defensive zone starts
    but really that is simply obfuscation. If you have some evidence that DD a disporportionate number of O-zone vs D-zone starts,please share it. Personally, I have hard time believing that a coach who benched his top defensive forward with a two goal lead in the third period, and continued to give top PP minute to a line that was totally ineffective all season long, and even played them MORE than the line that was consistently producing in key situations was astute enough to manage a players zone starts.

    For some reason, Loonie, you have developed a hate for DD equalled only by your love of CP.

    Any center in the NHL that has played 56 even strength playoff minutes and been on for only one goal against at on one of the top two lines- regardless of where his shifts started, is doing something right, and does not deserve to be criticized to the extent that DD has been.

    regards,

    Steve O.

    • Luke says:

      The question isn’t how many goals against were scored while DD was on the ice, the question is hopw often was DD used in a defensive role?

      If he isn’t taking defensive faceoffs, but Plekanec is, one must assume Plek’s line will be scored on more often than DD simply because he is at a disadvatage to start his shift.

      I know this you love this specific stat set, but I don’t think you can ever convince me of it’s value because you have removed context from it. And in hockey, more than any other sport, you need the context.

      In the words of Lyle Lovett:

      “What’s riches to you, just ain’t riches to me…”

      • Loonie says:

        You mean Desharnais’ going to be better offensively when matched against Zack Smith instead of Kyle Turris?

        Weird.

        It’s glorified plus/minus. Which is near unanimously regarded as the weakest statistic in hockey.

        You can dress a hooker up in the best clothes and makeup but at the end of the day she’s still a hooker.

        • Luke says:

          probably means Zach Smith is going to get better offensively when matched against DD instead of Plekanec!

          haha!

        • Habfan17 says:

          No matter how this stat is compiled, it still doesn’t not matter. DD is paid to put up points. He did not! He did not elevate his game or find ways to be productive. I am sorry, but if all the Habs best players were a plus 1 and had no points how does that mean the Habs would have won? You don”t get a minus when the other team scores on the PP and Ottawa did and the Habs did not. I heard the Habs were the only team this season without a short handed goal too.

          Habfan17

    • Loonie says:

      You evaluate small areas of the game and interpret that they indicate broad scope performance.

      How do I know Desharnais isn’t good defensively? I watch hockey and am not a moron, that’s how. When he plays hard he’s good defensively. But not when he isn’t which unfortunately this season was the norm.

      My love for Carey Price is pretty simple. I don’t blame the goalie when they don’t stop pucks that great goalies can’t on a regular basis. If by love you mean don’t blame him for every woe this team has then yeah I love him.

      You have a funny knack of accusing people of playing favourites when reality doesn’t agree with your stats and the opinions you attach to them that aren’t based on anything logical.

      You bend and twist your stats to suit YOUR favourites. And by favourites I don’t mean players. I mean bashing the coach.

      You really expect people to believe BS you’re spewing about Colby Armstrong being a more effective player defensively than Tomas Plekanec?

      How many times did Armstrong have to oppose Erik Karlsson instead of Jared Cowen? Did you notice that Therrien matched Plekanec against Karlsson as much as possible in that series?

      Probably not.

      • Habfan17 says:

        I will agree with you regarding DD. He did not bring it in the playoffs, plain and simple. He was shut down and could not figure out how to get free. He is paid to get points not be a shut down player. I would expect the best players to be plus players. Plus one with no points is not a good stat for anyone on the first 2 lines.

        Habfan17

  6. Gally365 says:

    This is all I see MB doing in the off-season. Let Ryder, and Halpern go and buy out Kaberle other than that he’ll rely on training camp.

    Your expectations for a cup in the near future is zero. We’ll still have the same soft injury prone Habs and early exits from the playoffs if they make it.

    • Habfan17 says:

      I am not so sure he will buy out Kaberle. Teams can trade players and pay part of their salary now. A team looking to reach the cap might trade for Kaberle since it is only one season, especially if the Habs pay part of his salary and then the Habs may get a late round pick. It would cost less and save the amnesty buyout for another. Bergevin could use this too on any other player!

      Habfan17

    • Saintpatrick33 says:

      Wow someone is jaded and pessimistic, I understand why but I have faith in Bergevin.

  7. RetroMikey says:

    Kudos to those Maple Leafs.
    Bet all of you thought those Bruins would sweep them, eh?
    Give me a team of hard working, no name, unskilled players of grit than a team that is small with speed and skill.
    And yes, Reimer is the real deal, more and more will be a better goalie than our overrated Price in years to come.

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Congratulations to your team for making it to game 7 with Boston. Best of luck to you and your team the Maple Leafs.

      CHeers!

      • Loonie says:

        Sadly for Mikey one of his two favourite teams(Bruins and Leafs) will be done tonight and not moving on.

        I’m sure it will be bittersweet for him.

      • RetroMikey says:

        Meet you at Emma’s on Lakeshore Rd. to celebrate that BIG IS BETTER!

        “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

        • punkster says:

          So if Boston, whose average is only 0.8 inches taller and 2.7 lbs heavier than the Habs wins tonight, then what?

          Of course Toronto’s behemoths are 1.4 inches taller and 8.9 pounds heavier so I guess that HUGE difference makes your Leaf blowing valid.

          ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

          • RetroMikey says:

            Those Leafs are one of the youngest teams in the NHL, give them credit for once!
            They are playing great hockey.
            They are playing with great confidence with Reimer in net.
            Carlyle knows how to get the most out of his players.
            Would you not want a team like theirs than our fragile team with weak goaltending?

            “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

          • punkster says:

            Enjoy your victory tonight.

            ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Sorry Mikey, I will pass on meeting you to watch the game. I will be out with my friends at a different sports bar. But once again good luck to YOUR team.

          • RetroMikey says:

            Meet you at Shoeless Joe’s on Appleby Line?
            We can have a beer and you can stop sulking over a disappointing first round loss to those Senators which we should have won on paper.
            I’ll be there with my Habs buddies as well and cheering for a Canadian team than the Gooins.
            Either way, both teams deserve credit, they are moulding their team to play in the new NHL not the old days of smaller players who have no grit but speed and skill.

            “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

        • Bill says:

          What kind of a Habs’ fan goes to a bar to cheer on the Maple Leafs after coming on here to put down the Habs?

          Serious question. I don’t get it.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

          • RetroMikey says:

            It’s called being CANADIAN ……and supporting a Canadian team in the playoffs.
            That’s right, you don’t get it.

            “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I suspect you are aiming that at Retro Bill, I will be going out to watch, but with my baseball team after our game is over. We go to the sports bar after every game. Should be entertaining as my team has many Bruins and Leaf fans on it, I will take many barbs, but will have a fun time with the guys watching the game.

          • saskhabfan says:

            LMAO, pure comedy gold. During the playoffs 2 years ago retread mikey cheered for the bruins in the cup final over the canucks cause the bruins had more Canadian players.Now this year he is pulling for the leafs over the “gooins” while playing the cheering for the Canadian team card. Man, this stuff just writes itself. But now watch out guys,now that you called him out he is going to follow you all over the internet like he does with me.

          • The Dude says:

            HAVE YOU BEEN IN A COMA FOR TO LAST 20 YEARS ,THE HABS HAVE BEEN CRAP!

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        • Luke says:

          This just doesn’t work. You end up reading all the replies and wonder what boneheaded thing ignored member is carrying on about and so you unignore him so you aren’t left out.

          That said… beers! Have a good night folks!

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      It appears the Leafs are peaking or on the cusp of something good while some of the Bruins are slowing down and/or in need of a change.

      However, there is still a very big game 7 to play and I’d say it’s a toss up on who wins.

      I’d hate to see the Leafs win but at the same time it’s nice to see Boston get banged around and frustrated at the same time.

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      –Mike Boone

  8. Habfan17 says:

    I thought Bergevin said all the right things. He let everyone know he is looking at all options, wants to build from within, knows the Habs need a better mix, but did not give away anything that would hurt possible trades or UFA signings and did not throw any players even remotely under a bus. He even threw some humour in. Very refreshing over Gauthier and a confidence builder in Bergevin and his team

    Habfan17

    • Loonie says:

      Right, but in fairness to Gauthier when he said the team needed more size he went out and got Bourque.

      When he said you can be a buyer and a seller he added Bourque and two second round picks and moved Kostitsyn and Gill who were both pending UFAs at a time when the team wouldn’t make the playoffs.

      Bergevin is speaking in vague terms about everything. Admirable because he doesn’t want to divulge anything. But his actions are where he’s falling somewhat short in my opinion. Desharnais’ contract was bad, Moen’s was bad, Bouillon’s is illogical and the guy who said you don’t add depth at the deadline added depth at the deadline. Or did he just not want his fifth round pick?

      His actions will leave his legacy, not how good of a press conference he can give.

      • mrhabby says:

        hes not going to come out and admit he gave a few crappy deals to Moen and DD…in private yes not in public.

        • Loonie says:

          Are you sure he’s admitting that in private?

          This is why I say actions speak louder than words. If he regrets some moves he’s made he’ll fix them. If he doesn’t think they cause a problem or that they themselves are problems he’ll maintain the status quo.

          • mrhabby says:

            Tom..he may not be saying in private either u right. But yes..we will see if he can fix those issues. I really hope he does something big but that damn cap always gets in the way.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            In all things in life, we learn from our mistakes. Just the same, MB will learn more and more about what is involved in being a GM. Perfection is hard to attain, he will make mistakes along the way. What I think is great about MB, is he strikes me as a person not so arrogant that he can’t recognize when perhaps he has made a wrong decision.

            To me this alone is one of the great differences between he and our past regime, specifically PG.

            It takes time to build a winner, I am prepared to give MB that time. These are just my opinions, based on what I see and hear from MB. He strikes me as a person with good character.

      • Habfan17 says:

        His press confference was great and in case you didn’t listen to it all, he did say he does not have a crystal ball and gave his reasons why he signed DD when he did and for that money.

        Bergevin was a player and will not embarrass players or any other member of the organization in public, that is what you call class.

        As far as Moen goes, I think both he and Gorges had their noses out of joint ( my opinion ). Under Martin, they were go to guys, not under Therrien. Moen would play, much to the fans chagrin, on the first and second line and was the 3rd line left wing under Martin. He was the 4th line winger under Therrien.

        With Regards to Markov and being tired, of course he won’t say that Markov was tired and it is a concern. Again, he won’t embarrass anyone in public, negotiate in public, or air dirty laundry in public.

        If he has an issue with how many minutes Markov was played, he will talk to Therrien in private. It also hurts the players value on the market if he says anything negative.

        I was commenting on the difference between press conferences given by Gauthier and Bergevin when I said it was like a breath of fresh air watching Bergevin’s. I was not comparing trades etc. Yes, Gauthier got a couple right and it is way to early to judge Bergevin’s moves.

        Bergevin did what you want the GM to do. Let us know he is working on things. That he will be building for the most part from within, will weigh trade options and free agent signings. He will not be pressured and will not discuss private issues in public.

        Habfan17

        • Loonie says:

          He did say that Markov got tired.

          I don’t know about you put I don’t want a verbal pat on the back from the GM. I’d like him to make this hockey team as good as he’s capable of doing.

          I think despite this year’s result that he’s off to a poor start.

      • Wintercount says:

        I’m expecting MB to show some imagination regarding the upcoming draft. The added depth in his scouting tribe should provide some surprises, and he’s in a position of strength with plenty of room to move and manoeuvre. It’s a good time to be a GM in this league.
        May he make our hearts “Soar like a hawk.”

        Go get ‘em Mark!!!

  9. Steeltown Hab says:

    The Draft will answer a lot of the questions we’re asking. Type of players drafted, keeping picks? Trading up, or down, etc.

    I like the conservative route in keeping all the picks. If you could move DD and a 3rd for a pick in the 1st…well that’s my highly unlikely dream deal.

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  10. J.J. of Turku says:

    Anyone wathcing CAN – SLO? IIHF hockey? Weird… :D

    Bazinga!

  11. Bill says:

    With the Habs out of the playoffs we are now entering the silly season of people making fantastical trade suggestions and economically unviable free agent acquisition ideas and then posting their resulting ridiculous line combinations as though they were some kind of blueprint.

    Sign Clowe and Clarkson! Salary cap? What salary cap??

    Trade for Chris Stewart! Matt Moulson! Viktor Hedman! Malkin! Ovechkin! For DD, Diaz, a 2nd and a 4th!!

    Stewart – Malkin – Gallagher
    Galchenyuk – Eller – Iginla
    Moulson – Plekanec – Ovechkin
    Pacioretty – Crosby – Bourque

    Subban – Hedman
    Tinordi – Chara
    Robinson – Orr

    Do it MB!!

  12. Bripro says:

    I’m on my iPhone so I can’t respond below a post but Ivey the impression there’s some mild disagreement with my choice for GM. Sure he’s made mistakes, but its his rookie year. I’m not looking as much at player selections as I am at infrastructure for the future.
    He’s created a foundation that hasn’t existed in a long time.
    I really do see a bright future, but its a few years away.

    How many here had high expectations when the season started? Forget the standings.
    Would the Goat have kept our two rookies? Doubtful.
    He hired MT and many whined about it. Yet they surpassed the expectations of almost everyone.
    Yup. He gets my vote.

  13. WindsorHab-10 says:

    So, who do we cheer for tonight? Leafs or Gooins?
    I dread the fact that I muust make a choice. Too bad they can’t both lose. Looking at the bright side, it’s a win win for us.

  14. Bripro says:

    Patience is a virtue m
    For example, how many pushed the stressed-out button regarding PK not being invited to join Team Canada.?

    I watched most of the press conference and I think it’s safe to say that MB is one very composed and rational GM. There was no putting words in his mouth.
    You could visibly read between the lines on many issues ‘including Kaberle’s contract, and his bringing up the amnesty option.

    You can tell that he recognizes that the cap will be an issue, and patience will indeed be needs next year since
    1. The opposition won’t take them lightly
    2. He implied as much by pointing out that re-building a contender takes time
    3. He wants to build from within, and given how thin we are, we might have to wait until this upcoming draft selections are ready. That would be a few years away
    4. He implied that this team’s speed is a benefit and he might be willing to put DD on long-term life support.

    One thing is certain. He holds his cards close to his chest and I think this is a good thing. One reason he gets my vote as GM of the year.

    • Loonie says:

      GM of the year? For what?

      Prust? Bouillon? Drewiske? Therrien?

      He did a pretty good job as a rookie GM because of his patience. He’s also done around ten contracts and less than half have been good.

      • Timo says:

        Prust was the only good thing he’s done.

        And he is screwing with PK, arguably the best player organization had since Roy.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        You forgot to mention his decision to buyout Gomez and keep Galchenyuk and Gallagher with the big club. I think that’s what everyone is referring to and why he’s in the running. Trades are only part of the equation.

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        –Mike Boone

        • Loonie says:

          I’m taking the good with the bad. But contracts are a huge part of a GM’s duties and the broad scope of his contracts have been bad early on.

  15. BJ says:

    Slovenia 3 Canada 2.

    • johnnylarue says:

      Is this is a case of Canada just assuming they’ll win every game due to their innate awesomeness and adjusting their “compete level” accordingly? Or have other international hockey squads really improved over the past few years (Switzerland, take a bow)?

      • BJ says:

        Having followed World Championships since the late 50’s I would say that most countries are improving. The gap is not what it used to be.

      • Timo says:

        Sounds like the former and based on the last decade or so I don’t see a basis for such assumption.

      • Bob_Sacamano says:

        Slovenia is desperately trying to avoid relegation while the game is of very little importance for Canada. Despite all that Canada is outshooting Slovenia 25-11 at the moment…

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Watching the game now, I can see how valuable PK will be to this team. He I believe will help put them over the top with his skillset.

        The powerplay for Canada has nobody to blast puck from the blueline.

  16. ZepFan2 says:

    Okay so I read the article and I’m a little apprehensive. I realise he’s been there before and has been good, I’m just hoping he can be as bad ass as he was before. It’s been a few years since we’ve seen him and he has a few more miles on that body. Can he really do all that’s needed of him? We’ll see. I’ll be looking forward to see what he can bring. Jack Bauer, you rock, bro! http://tinyurl.com/c3nc2wb

    Oops, wrong site. :wink:

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  17. Loonie says:

    The only thing about the press conference that concerned me was Bergevin’s comments regarding Markov. He seems to think that his fatigue was a result of lack of rest between games and doesn’t necessarily feel that an 82 game schedule would leave him as worn down.

    If next season shows that Markov will in fact get tired from the full season schedule who eats his minutes? Gorges? As Ozzie Guillen put it…..Pffff…..please.

    • Timo says:

      Markov, if he stays, needs to play about 12-13 minutes per game. Some PP time, some time against 4th liners. No more than that. His price tag is ridiculous, but that’s not out of line with many of other stiffs on the team.

      Therrien used him well in the beginning of the season but then it went the way of meritocracy.

    • SteverenO says:

      Who ate his minutes this year?

      the problem is that no one did. The coaching staff did not recognize the fact that he was a liability. They continued to give him top pairing minutes and 90% Pp minutes throughout the season despite the fact that he was unproductive offensively and ineffective defensively.

      In my opinion, It doesn’t really matter who is on the roster, if the coach gives the more effective players less ice time than the weaker players.

      regards,

      Steve O.

      • Loonie says:

        It kinda does matter who’s on the roster. Gonna trust Gorges with those minutes? Tinordi?

        Why do you think Subban was leading the team in ice-time toward the end of the year? He was a capable player who could fill the role they needed Markov to early in the season.

        With a Bouwmeester as our #3 defenseman Markov’s minutes could have been managed much better. Now I’m not saying Therrien would actually make the personnel adjustment, but I can’t fault him for not making it this season with Gorges as the most logical replacement.

      • Luke says:

        Sorry SteverenO, need you to clarify this one: Are you saying MARKOV was unproductive offensively?

    • Habfan17 says:

      Did you actually expect Bergevin to say he can’t keep up? If he wants to trade him, he can’t put any doubt in other GM’s.

      Habfan17

      • Loonie says:

        No, I expected him to lie and say Markov wasn’t tired.

        • Habfan17 says:

          I thought Bergevin said all the right things. He let everyone know he is looking at all options, wants to build from within, knows the Habs need a better mix, but did not give away anything that would hurt possible trades or UFA signings and did not throw any players even remotely under a bus. He eevn threw some humour in. Very refreshing over Gauthier and a confidence builder in Bergevin and his team

          Habfan17

        • Habfan17 says:

          On top of that, he would not embarrass a player in the media!

          Habfan17

    • johnnylarue says:

      I was hoping for a bit less PR double-speak from Bergevin in general, to be honest, but hey, it is what it is…

      As for Markov, with one year left on his contract, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt. He did manage to stay healthy for the better part of 70+ games (KHL included) this season, and considering he hadn’t played much in two years prior, it’s not unreasonable to think his conditioning wasn’t at its peak this year.

      Marky’s probably also still adjusting to his mobility limitations–wherein he still instinctively pinches as much as ever but no longer has the wheels to get back in time to back-check when things go wrong.

  18. BJ says:

    Canada 2 Slovenia 2 2:51 in the 2nd

  19. pmaraw says:

    its gonna be a long summer

  20. BJ says:

    Slovania 2 Canada 1 2:01 into the 2nd.

  21. jrs10069 says:

    I make a move with Phoenix..Price and change for Smith and change, use the change to get bigger ie Weber for Biznasty etc

    jrs10069

  22. B says:

    As per cap geek, Montreal had 2 of the top 7 cap bargains in the NHL this season:

    http://www.capgeek.com/bargain-hunter/

    –Go Habs Go!–

  23. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Is the draft order for the playoff teams announced at the end of the Finals, or at the end of each round? (Positioning is based on when you were knocked out, correct?)

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      Or is it just regular season?

    • Chris says:

      It is based on regular season standings, but is scaled by what round you are knocked out.

      All teams that lose in the first two rounds are lumped together and pick in reverse order of their regular season position from picks 15-26.

  24. commandant says:

    What is going on with the “awaiting moderation”

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  25. Maritime Ron says:

    A big tip of the hat to GM Marc Bergevin and the very tough Montreal press for being honest, asking the proper questions, and not being belligerent and outright ignorant and obnoxious.

    If you want to see an absolutely stupid year end press conference, you can watch this one with the Buffalo Sabres GM Darcy Regier and the Sabres President Ted Black, and the local Buffalo media.

    If I was a resident of Buffalo, I would be totally embarrassed all the way around….”lack of class” and “small mindlessness” comes to mind.
    That’s all you need to see and compare why this Habs Ownership/Management are all about class and dignity.

    http://video.sabres.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=243784

    From here, a team is not built in 1 year – as draft picks/trades can never be truly evaluated before at least 5 years and sometimes longer.

    The Nervous Nellies around here need to settle down and allow hockey nature to take its course.

    EX: How many absolutely hated the Halak/Eller deal for at least 3 years…yet we now have a budding potential 24 year old 1st line center with character to boot vs. a traded good goalie that breaks down and argues with his coach about playing time that may hurt and be a huge detriment to his team?

    Patience is needed to correct several bad past decisions….

  26. jrs10069 says:

    Don’t know why anyone would want to play in montreal now. Sure you’re a star but what does that actually buy you. Back in the day it meant serious partying and serious tang. Now, you can’t even really enjoy that because (a) they can’t party as much as they used to because the league is too competitive and (b) every mf and their mother has a camera, try to have any fun and you’ll be all over the news.

    So what is the upside? You might get out of a speeding ticket…

    Add the extreme pressure, the language crap and least of all, the taxes and why over a short career would you want to exposure yourself to it? Sucks but it’s true.

    Tell me I’m wrong.

    jrs10069

    • BJ says:

      OK you are wrong. Having said that, you are also right.

      • adamkennelly says:

        why would someone want to play in Nashville or Dallas – make all that money – pay no taxes and live completely anonymously when you could play in MTL and have tons of snow, taxes, reporters, crazy fans, language, pressure, etc..if you want to play in the show – MTL is the real show but it has to get old over time.

    • olematelot says:

      OK, I think you’re wrong, case in point PK loves it as well as others. The old days are exactly that, times change as well as the attitude of todays players, they’re all high performance atheletes. Sure there are some that don’t want to play in Montreal but I’ll bet there are way more that would love to.

      • jrs10069 says:

        That’s my point. Given the new “times” it doesn’t make sense to play in montreal. What is the upside? Someone guys want to be superstars (PK) but when they realize there is way more downside than upside it fades fast.

        jrs10069

    • punkster says:

      Actually I doubt too many pros play the game to party and get “tang”, as you say.

      But I’m not a pro hockey player.

      ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

      • jrs10069 says:

        i’m not sure you’re right about that. If that’s not a desired upside then no point in coming to mtl unless you want to learn french and bring home way less scratch.

        jrs10069

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  28. The Summit, Where Great Fans Come to Play

    I haven’t talked to Ian yet, but I still want to do the Ice Hockey game, and to make it even safer for all, we would you a sponge hockey puck. That way would could minimize the equipment to Helmets, gloves, sticks, skates. I am sure we can get two goalies from Montreal so that people aren’t dragging gear across the country. I would even look at ice on the Thursday before the Summit starts.

    Just a thought, I’m pretty excited right now, not the best time to be planning for the fall! :lol:

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    My name is Shane Oliver. I am a retired infantry Sgt who is one of your biggest fans. I’ve loved every goalie who ever put the pads on for this great team and for a short time you were a Canadien!

    Every year a group of over 200 people come to Montreal to hang out, discuss hockey, watch a game and raise money for the Montreal Children’s Foundation.

    Would you like to play goal for a 60 minute sponge hockey game? I lost you over time, but if you get this message let me know if yo are able to play, it’s just for fun and all you would have to do is stand there and duck every once in a while.

    Kidding of course….or am I? :)

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  29. adamkennelly says:

    forget Clarkson – gonna cost way too much money and prolly won’t be able to repeat his performance.

    Chris Stewart from STL would be a great addition. I like adding him – going after a Matt Martin (instead of Travis Moen) and signing Bordeleau.

    See what it would take to get Victor Hedman from TB and call it a day.

  30. BJ says:

    Slovania 2 Canada 0, 10 minutes into the first.

  31. Mattyleg says:

    Hahaha!!
    This is great.

    HI/O, you’ve never failed to disappoint…

    Plenty of people on here informing us all about what Bergevin’s comments ‘mean’.
    He said this: It means that.
    When he said this, it clearly meant that this would become that.

    Just classic.
    Keep ‘em coming boys, I’m having fun!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  32. Chris says:

    For my money, Carey Price and Ryan Miller are similar goaltenders.

    Both are talented enough that they could easily win a Vezina Trophy (as Miller has) if they are put behind a good team. But neither are dominant enough to carry a mediocre or bad team.

    There is no shame in that. My list of goalies whose performance is consistently great regardless of who is in front of them is one name long: Henrik Lundqvist. And he hasn’t been able to win a Stanley Cup, or even enjoy prolonged runs in the playoffs (last year was his best), despite being the best goaltender in the NHL since the lockout.

    Price is not the problem, nor is he the solution. He’s the goalie. Fix the forwards so that the defence corps has less pressure on them and they will make less mistakes. If the defence corps is not forced into making so many brutal mistakes, then Price will be more than enough to get the job done.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …right on

    • H.Upmann says:

      I believe your last point. He`s just the goalie.

    • habsfan0 says:

      Henrik Lundqvist is a very good goalie.
      However, he is NOT a money goalie as evidenced by how many games he’s lost in playoff OT. Sound like someone we know?

      For that reason, I’m picking Washington to win Game 7 tonight.

    • Phil C says:

      If Price continues to play like he did on April and May of this year, he will be out of the league. Not even close to being good enough, regardless of who is in front of him. I don’t think you can blame it entirely on the team. Price was much better last year on a considerably worse team.

  33. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …will be interesting to watch PK in the world championships

    …will His game translate well to the larger ice ?

    …His skating is 90 % of His game, and I think it will

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Will be interesting how much ice time he gets. I realize Schenn is getting a 1 game suspension, but PK will have virtually no practise time with team prior to playoff rounds.

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …I had forgotten about Schenn’s game suspension …they were commenting Hamhuis was likely the last add-on

        …it will be fun watching PK …I was already switching My interest from the NHL playoffs, so now even more interesting with PK

    • habs_54321 says:

      pk made the team?

      edit: nvm just saw the article on tsn good news looking forward to watching him

  34. youngwun says:

    Is it true we only have 2.6 mill in cap space for next year?

  35. Habitant in Surrey says:

    ‘Your comment is awaiting moderation.’

    …are You Guys also receiving this message when making a normal post ?

  36. Habitant in Surrey says:

    ‘Your comment is awaiting moderation.’ …ergo, duplicated comment above :)

  37. Phil C says:

    I keep hearing how DD had such a disappointing season and how he really stopped producing after he was signed. So lets go to the numbers.

    Season totals
    GP G A Pts PPG
    48 10 18 28 .58

    Before 15 Mar
    GP G A Pts PPG
    27 8 8 16 .59

    After 15 Mar
    GP G A Pts PPG
    21 2 10 12 .57

    It seems to me that DD was very consist both before and after he was signed, within .01 PPG of his season average, projecting out to 46-48 points over an 82 season.

    How does this year’s production compare to other centre’s in the league?

    28 points was good enough for 40th among centres. Projected over 82 games, 48 points would have been 38th among centres, compared to last season’s results. So while his numbers were not as good as expected, his production was not bad compared to the rest of the league, especially on a team like the Habs, where their 2nd and 3rd lines were interchangeable, like a 2A and 2B set-up, so he was not getting as much ice as he did last year.

    If you want to get rid of DD because they have too many small forwards, that’s fine, I would keep Gallagher before DD. But he is a useful offensive player for his cap hit and production, so I don’t understand all the venom that gets directed towards him. Pageau had 5 points in 5 games against the Habs and is listed as 7 lbs lighter than DD. Small offensively-minded players are very useful and important in the right lineup.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I think people have an issue with the amount of ice time and pp time he gets just to have those point totals.

      They feel there is others like Eller etc who could do better.

      DD can play be didn’t have a great season

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Phil C says:

        That is a fair criticism. I think at the beginning of the season, DD had earned his spot on the PP. I agree that Eller has moved past him in the depth chart after this season, so it will be interesting to see where they put DD next season.

    • Ali says:

      No one cares about size if you produce. When it mattered (down the stretch and in the playoffs) DD did not produce. Same goes for Pleks, but at least he contributes on the PK and in a checking role against the other team’s top center. DD is useless if he is not producing offensively.

      • Phil C says:

        He performed down the stretch, he had 8 points in the month of April, exactly his season average, and on par with what other 2nd line centres produce in a tough league, that was the whole point of my post.

        I agree he did not produce in the playoffs, although his entire line did not produce, so I’m not sure it is all DD’s fault. Pacioretty didn’t even have a point, but he is 6’2″, so it’s okay.

        • Loonie says:

          With a separated shoulder if you’re going to give consideration to mitigating circumstance in Desharnais’ case you had better do it in Pacioretty’s.

          • Phil C says:

            DD is a playmaker, he will not produce without snipers on his line, just like the snipers will not produce without a play-making centre. DD never gets the benefit of the doubt though. If his line is not producing, it’s because DD is too small, not because the scorer on the line has a separated shoulder.

          • Loonie says:

            But this is the point Phil. Desharnais needs snipers. Did Eller need snipers when Moen and Armstrong were his wingers? No. Did Galchenyuk need them with Eller and Prust on his wings? Has Plekanec ever needed a sniper? No.

            Desharnais needs considerably favourable elements surrounding him to be successful. The other centremen on this team don’t.

    • Loonie says:

      For Desharnais to be successful the team MUST surround him with big, fast, physical players.

      Tell me, what specific kind of player do Plekanec, Galchenyuk and Eller need surrounded with? Keeping in mind that Plekanec has been successful with the likes of Halpern and Metropolit on his wings, Armstrong and Moen on Eller’s and Halpern and Prust on Galchenyuk’s.

      They’re versatile and sacrifice no offense in his favour.

      He’s the weak link and shouldn’t be played as if he’s better, because he isn’t.

      That simple for me.

      • Phil C says:

        If you are saying that Eller has moved ahead of DD in the depth chart, you’ll get no argument from me. That is not really a knock on DD. I’m not convinced that Eller was ahead of him at the beginning of the year.

        The reality is that there are not enough versatile players to go around to build your team entirely of players like that. Many players on a given team will be a compromise in one way or another. Sometimes a competitive advantage can be gained by finding a way to use the skills of a player like DD.

        • Loonie says:

          I disagree. When we’re discussing Desharnais we aren’t talking about somebody with better offensive abilities than Plekanec, Eller or Galchenyuk. If that were the case I’d be in favour of Desharnais’ powerplay time and integral role on the team. But as it stands he isn’t and they bring better defense in the case of Eller and Plekanec and better offense in the case of Galchenyuk.

          Desharnais may well be the most expendable player on the Habs’ roster.

    • Mr. Biter says:

      Not really a Price/Halak or Gomez salary controversy any more so now it DD? Eller just to keep the fans interested.

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

  38. habs001 says:

    While many issues in Hab roster land i still cannot understand what the current coach and previous coach saw in Gorges playing second unit pp minutes…..Diaz out in game 4 in the last minute in a must game leading 2-1 gives me little confidence in how this coaching staff evaluates roster talent…

  39. Thomas Le Fan says:

    If I was Carey Price, I would not want to play here either and before the 40% of you say, “Good!” you might want to consider what this means to the future of this franchise and the liklihood of ever raising number 25. Why do free agents not want to come here? I have a suggestion to these so-called fans. Try being loyal fans of your team and not merely unmerciful critics of any aspect of a player’s game that lacks perfection. I hope you all jump to another team now that we are out of the playoffs and, God willing, you stay there. Go Habs!

    There is no crying in baseball, “i” in team or “chuck” in Galchenyuk.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      You really think it’s 40% Thomas? Seems to me to just be a very vocal minority. I wouldn’t think it’d be much higher then 20-25% if that high.
      There is a tremendous amount the team has invested in a 25 year old goalie. For all of our sakes I sure as heck want him to succeed here.
      Good post.

    • It’s about 6% that don’t support him, nothing worth mentioning really.

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      • Thomas Le Fan says:

        I’m just p*ssed. I hope you’re right too, Shane.

        There is no crying in baseball, “i” in team or “chuck” in Galchenyuk.

        • Nope, when ever people start slammin Price just look at their ID and move on. Trust me, they bring nothing to the site. Same ol crap over and over.

          Then look at the people here who support the team with their opinions, and openly discuss the team with civilized respectful thoughts. When they turn on Price I’ll be worried.

          When 20,000 screaming fans start chucking quarters at him I’ll be worried.

          Plus it isn’t “Slam a Troll” day. :lol:

          Smile and Wave, Ignore the Rest.

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    • Cal says:

      If any player is stupid enough to read our comments, I’d be very surprised. If any Hab spends any time on this site, I’d seriously question his sanity.

    • 44har48 says:

      It’s very much like those groups in our communities that always oppose things and you scratch your head wondering why.

      They too are a very small minority that are very loud.

      You can hear all the Price dissent loud and clear like I can and everyone else can, but it’s coming from the same small group of people every time.

      We have a ton of work to do and unfortunately, it is not going to happen as fast as I would like, but our goalie is not one of those things we need to worry about or change.

    • habs_54321 says:

      price said it himself in his comments that he needs to be better and that with the goalie position you are either the hero or the goat. every real hockey city puts pressure on there players to perform and challenges them to be better. reimer got as much scrutiny as price and is thriving under the pressure, subban was challenged by everyone including MB and he had a norris season.

      im encouraged that price is finally looking in the mirror and saying he needs to be better and i expect he will have a terrific season next year probably his best yet, and if not he will continue to be challenged by fans to perform.

  40. JUST ME says:

    We should all agree that things look promissing. With the nominations of Bergevin ,Gallagher and Subban so far this season we do have reasons to celebrate what seems to be obvious facts that are noted from people outside of our usual mental torture…

    That`s why i would rather stick with what Bergevin has been putting forward since he got here rather than the usual frustrated fans complaints that have been coming back here for decades now…I know we all mean well but every 6 months we need to be bigger ,every 6 months we need another goalie, every 6 months we need…

    • BJ says:

      We have needed to get bigger and tougher for close to 20 years. If we don’t we’ll be blogging next year at this time with what top 5 pick we can select in the Entry Draft.

  41. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …this will be a very interesting summer :)

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  42. Loonie says:

    No reason to get worked up over a press conference. Reporters are paid to ask questions that don’t generate definitive answers and General Managers and personnel executives rarely tip their hand.

    The proof will be in the pudding.

    1. Will Bergevin recognize that we can’t have four defensemen on the roster at one time who are softer than Charmin?

    2. Will he recognize that Desharnais can not be this team’s leading powerplay centreman and that he has to put specific personnel with him where he doesn’t with Eller, Plekanec and Galchenyuk?

    What will he do about both? Will he have the guts to pull the trigger on some moves that will address both situations or will he continue to “build through the draft”? And if he chooses to keep this team in limbo while it waits on young reinforcements will he move some of the veteran players for prospects and draft picks?

    Those answers don’t come at a press conference, they come through action.

    Want an example of his words ringing hollow? “You don’t build depth via free agency or on deadline day”. Why acquire Drewiske then?

    Let’s see some action, not panic, decisive action to address needs long term. And if that action isn’t going to happen, let’s see some veterans moved.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      you are right in that he isn’t going to tell the press anything really. I agree with building through the draft but I also agree that sometimes you need to add some assets that can’t be foreseen.

      This is when we will really see what type of GM we really have. I am curious.

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • HabinBurlington says:

        He has to have his poker face on. He isn’t going to announce to the rest of league that he needs player x and player y. I think and hope he will show that indeed he has the makeup to be an excellent GM.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Agree Tom.

    • 44har48 says:

      Yeah, right on Tom. I’m a little disappointed, but what the heck was I really expecting him to say??? He would have been an idiot to answer those questions the way I wanted him to, or to tell us what I wanted to hear.

  43. Habfan10912 says:

    OK, I will play the “read too much into it” game. When Bergevin spoke about character being more important then size was he speaking to DD, Moen, Ryder and Gorges?

  44. Luke May 13, 2013 at 1:37 pm
    Especially if you look only at their record as a 25year old and younger.

    Even funnier is comparing him the goalies that had 5 and 6 Hall of Fame players on each team…less Roy of course, he was just plain amazing (yet the boos drove him out and Carey is still a here, odd?), and Vezina well I have no idea how great he was, I have never seen footage of him playing, but if reading his story is any indication I would love to be Phineas Bogg and see him for myself.

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  45. JF says:

    To no one’s surprise, Marc Bergevin pulled no rabbits out of his hat at the press conference. He reiterated his faith in building through the draft, he said balance is necessary in building a team, and he stressed the importance of character and work ethic. He didn’t rule out the possibility of changes through trades or free agent signings, but noted that 29 other teams are all trying to get better, bigger, faster, and tougher. It takes time and depth, and there are no shortcuts. You acquire depth through the draft and through developing your prospects well.

    Of course he supported Carey Price and tried to downplay the question marks raised by Price’s comments over the weekend. Asked specifically about the goaltending coach, he praised the entire coaching staff, but said he and Therrien would evaluate the work done by each member of the staff. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if this evaluation results in some changes.

    If we’re looking for a team that has rebuilt quickly and successfully through the draft, we need look no farther than the Ottawa Senators. Two seasons ago they finished near the bottom of the League. That was the year of the Dany Heatley fiasco; also, Spezza and Alfredsson had serious injuries, and the coach was fired mid-season. They traded a bunch of veterans at the deadline (Chris Kelly, Mike Fisher, and Antoine Vermette) and got an excellent crop of young players in the subsequent draft; I think it’s largely the fruits of that draft and of the decision to bring in Paul MacLean as coach, that we’re seeing now. All those young players no one had heard of before were drafted by the Senators. The team got to the playoffs last year with that group, made a couple of changes over the summer, notably bringing in Mark Methot, and are going further this year. I wouldn’t be surprised if they took out the star-studded Pittsburgh team.

    I’m not completely confident that our own rebuilding process will be as quick as that. Ottawa likely had more depth in their system at the time of their bad season than we did last year. But the trajectory should be fairly similar. We drafted very well last summer and we have six picks in the top ninety this year. If we use those picks wisely, we can add considerably to our depth.

    Bergevin thinks that next season will be very tough. Hard to disagree, especially with the realignment of the two Conferences. I think it’s likely we’ll miss the playoffs next year or have to scramble to make them; the following year, however, with some of the bigger contracts off the books, we should start to see progress.

  46. SteverenO says:

    Why all the hate for Desharnais? Hockey is a two-way game.Playoff hockey especially is normally about cutting down the other teams chances to score and capitalizing on opponents mistakes. Even strength goals are difficult to come by and special teams play a large factor:

    here is a breakdown of HABs players defensive performance at even strength in the Ottawa series:The Habs scored 6 even strangth goals and allowed 14 in the series. On specail teams we scored 3 PP goals the Sens had 6 ( 3 of them in the last period of the final game)

    Desharnais was only on the ice for 1 of the 14 Ottawa even strength goals.

    Here is a list of the Canadiens players that were on the ice for the 14 Ottawa even strength goals, and their averaga expressed in minutes of ice time per goal allowed.

    Zero even strength goals allowed:

    Eller: 6:21 T01
    Dumont: 10:55 TOI
    Halpern: 21:26 TOI

    1 even strength goal allowed:

    Armstrong: 28 Minutes TOI
    Pacioretty : 41 Minutes TOI
    Ryder: 52 minutes TOI
    Desharnias: 56 mins TOI

    2 even strength Goals

    White 22 minutes TOI—- AVG: 11 mins per ES GA
    Gionta 23 minutes TOI —-AVG: 11.5 mins per ES GA
    Markov; 72 minutres TOI —AVG: 36 mins ES GA

    3 Even strength goals allowed:

    Tinordi: 48 min TOI AVG: 16 min per ES GA
    Bouillon: 51 min TOI AVG: 17 min per ES GA
    Bourque: 52 min TOI AVG: 17 min per ES GA
    Subban: 76 mins TOI AVG: 25 min per ES GA

    4 Even strength goals allowed:

    Galchenyuk: 45 Mins TOI AVG: 11 min per ES GA
    Plekanec: 59 mins TOI AVG: 15 min per ES GA

    5 even strength Goals Allowed:

    Diaz; 64 Minutes TOI AVG: 15 min per ES GA

    6 even strength goals allowed:

    Prust: 53 Minutes TOI —–AVG: 9 min per ES GA
    Gorges: 66 minutes TOI—- AVG: 11 min per ES GA

    7 even strength goals allowed:

    Gallagher: 47 minutes TOI —– AVG: 6.7 min per ES GA

    As the numbers indicate Desharnais had a tremendous series defensively speaking. in fact it could be argued that he was the best defensive performer on the team.
    Of course we all would have liked for DD’s line to have contributed more offensively. The fact that his most common linemate, Pacioretty, was injured may have been a factor.

    In my opinion Dd’s contract is NOT a problem for this team going forward.

    Regards,

    Steve O.

    • kalevine says:

      since he is basically an offensive player, he has to help put more pucks in the net. Hoever, since he has been known as a defensive liability, any improvement in that area is a plus

    • Stevie.Ray says:

      What were his stats for defensive zone starts?

      DD is notorious for being somewhat protected. He is not used in situations where he could be scored on. Pacioretty is similar.

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      There is something very curious about your stats.

      DD had a tremendous series defensively? I don’t see how anyone could argue that DD brings anything defensively: he doesn’t have the footspeed or bodymass to backcheck effectively. He isn’t particularly good at faceoffs. Winning board battles/even remain standing along the boards is a foreign notion.

      Or maybe DD was given the easiest minutes on the team: Ozone starts, against weaker competition, sheltered presences, etc. Might explain a few things.

      DD is on the team to contribute offensively, which he obviously failed spectacularly at (yes, Pacs was injured). When the so-called ‘stats’ (a questionable one at that), show that DD has turned into a defensive stalwart, there is something very wrong with the methods employed.

      • Loonie says:

        Last week these same “stats” showed Colby Armstrong as our best player defensively.

        Wildly flawed.

      • Phil C says:

        I think you are unfairly harsh about DD’s defensive skills. You don’t have to be big to put pressure on the puck on the back-check. His speed is at least average, otherwise he would not be in the league.

        He wins a lot of battles in the corners,especially for his size. Have you ever played against smaller players? Their low centre of gravity and quickness can make them tough to knock off the puck.

        I agree that he is not in the NHL because of his defensive skills, but he has to be defensively responsible, otherwise he will lose too many of the line match-ups.

        • Loonie says:

          Everything positive you said about Desharnais was true for about thirty games in his first stint with the Habs and also true last season for the most part.

          None of it was this season. He rarely won puck battles, wasn’t effective at giving himself time and space and was ineffective when pressured.

          Desharnais last year versus Desharnais this year was day and night.

        • jedimyrmidon says:

          I’m writing about being defensively responsible with respect to the rest of his peers in the NHL.

          Average speed + a 5’5″ height doesn’t mix well. If he were very quick then it would be much different.

          And he really does get knocked down a lot. Every time he’s behind the net, he inevitably ends up on his rear end, and losing the puck.

  47. jols101 says:

    The only thing that annoyed me about Bergevin’s presser was his words about PK Subban. The brightest, best and most valuable member of the team. Bergevin paraphrased- Ya he had a good year but he can be better- ha, really?

    DD- don’t worry he will be better.
    Price- don’t worry he will be better.
    Team’s too small- don’t worry it takes time.

    PK Subban- He can get better. Really? That is what you have to say about your Norris Trophy Dman.

    PK get the hell out of Dodge and go somewhere were your talents will be appreciated.

    • Sportfan says:

      You’re a happy fan aren’t you lol don’t read to much into these comments the fact was the scrum of reporters kept asking him a lot of the same questions, or asked him questions that they could answer themselves. Like the questions about Collberg and Kristo is they’ll b on the big club or in the minors….

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      • Timo says:

        You can’t deny that Bergevin haven’t shown a lot of enthusiasm towards PK. He is tripping all over himself to defense a five-hole goaltender or a midget french forward but not a Norris candidate dman who is the ONLY legit defenseman on this team. A star defenseman.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I heard he hates him. :)

        • D Mex says:

          The reference to ” midget french forward ” exposes your small-mindedness. Not that this surprises me – it doesn’t, but I thought you were clever enough to disguise it a ” little ” better.

          You and your attitude wouldn’t last 5 minutes in a team environment, but you’ve probably learned this, first-hand, many times in the past.

          ALWAYS Habs –
          D Mex

    • Cal says:

      PK has not reached his potential. He CAN be better. What the hell is wrong with saying so.
      Did MB not genuflect properly, ffs?

    • ZepFan2 says:

      “That is what you have to say about your Norris Trophy Dman.”

      He hasn’t won the Norris yet. When he does, then your statement may mean something.

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  48. Sportfan says:

    Man were they egging him on about Price or what its like they were never satisfied with his answer and were hoping he’d slip up…

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  49. Sportfan says:

    Best Answer of the day. Well when I went down in St Louis Al Mcinnis seemed unaffected :P

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  50. JUST ME says:

    I like Bergevin cause he does what he says . He has a plan and will stick to it. He did make a few moves in his first year as a G.M. but he basically did what he sais he would wich is take a long hard look at what he has.

    So for you out there who are expecting big changes or big trades you might be surprised but do not count on it. Some non returning players will be replaced with what Bergevin feels he needs but basically the players that are here will remain here and have his trust. Yes it does involve D.D. Moen,Price and so many more that some of you would like to see gone but has Bergevin is trying to teach you is patience is a must to reach the goals you have and you should not change your mind before reaching you goal.

    I think that his nomination as G.M. of the year says a lot about Gauthier`s reputation and Bergevin`s way of doing things .

  51. Lafleurguy says:

    I’ve got some tips for M. Bergevin too, but I’m not going to post them so you guys won’t make fun of me.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  52. veryhabby says:

    Really is anyone surprised with what MB said. I think he had it right on, we are a “in the pack” team, and next year will be a hard year to get into playoffs. The pack is big, and being in the pack doesn’t guarantee a playoff spot.

    Guess the key is to be in the front of the pack, and not the back! He will look at every way to make this team better. He says UFA not the way to go, and that trades are hard to make and often you don’t move frwd making trades (ie you have to trade away something good to get something good). But MB has done both. He went and resigned Moen, got Prust, Bouillion and Armstrong. Traded for Ryder and Halpern (or was that a wire pick up?) Anyways, just showing he will use every avenue to get better.

    So those who think he won’t sign a UFA or won’t try and make trades….of course he will. But will he suceed in doing either or both there is no guarantee. And thus the “you build through the draft and development”. Cause sometimes you can’t force a team to trade with you, or you just don’t have the cap space to overpay for a UFA…so there is no other choice! OF course the draft thing only works if you actually get lucky and draft a bunch on future NHLers.

  53. Gally365 says:

    If MB stays put with what the Habs have in place right now. In a 82 Game season having to play the western teams. They won’t make the playoffs 2013-2014.

    I’m gonna say it again. Some skilled players. Lots of speed. Lacking toughness when it comes to playoff time. They proved it against Ottawa. Got pummeled a couple of times like kids in a schoolyard.

    Our defense is not up to par with most of the teams and our Goal Tending is very Questionable. Fix these things over the summer MB and we’ll be good to go …. at least try to make it out of the first round.

  54. Alex_425 says:

    As much as I don’t like the Leafs, tonight, I think I want the Bruins to taste some of that delicious ironing.

    But I’m no expert….

    • Cal says:

      Harper is anti-knowledge and anti-information. He’s making the whole of Canada look like rubes on their first visit to the big city. Then again, this is a hockey site, so may as well not get the right wingers all upset.

  55. Lafleurguy says:

    The hockey fever that has been here for more than 60 years (I’m counting the time when players no longer abandoned a hockey career if they received a good job offer from CN Railroad) is never going to arise in Anaheim, but they were fourth overall, us fifth, and their consternation should be as great. However, our best players are younger and cheaper than theirs with the exception of Price’s salary. I don’t believe it was toughness that enabled Detroit to win although Abdekader did dish out one hell of a cheapshot.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  56. Saintpatrick33 says:

    How many of you guys are going to be rooting for the Leafs tonight? I can’t believe I just said that…

    • The Cat says:

      I dont know, but the caps-rangers series is something else, worth watching more than Boston and Toronto.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • The Jackal says:

      Not me, those laffs have gotten ridiculously lucky in their wins.
      Bruins have dominated them every single game except yesterday, when it was about even.
      The laffs always look like they are just hanging on, they don’t deserve to win anything.

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      • kalevine says:

        Habs were hangin on in game 4 yet you probably felt like they deserved to win.

        • The Juice says:

          Hanging on in the final minute, yet, but otherwise dominated the Sens…watch much hockey?

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          • kalevine says:

            outshot 13-4 in the third, played like they were shorthanded most of the period. If they were so dominant, they should have had more than a 2-0 lead, so they could have had the luxury of playing in their own zone and still won it. The better team won, get over it. And the better team will win tonight. That’s how things work in the big leagues Pas d’excuses

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I will be….why cause I really hate both teams but seeing Chara upset makes me happy and it is in Boston so I want to see their meathead fans waste their money

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • kalevine says:

        I wouldn’t mind seeing Neely kick over a chair in his executive suite too! We saw him do it twice back in 2011 but unfortunately Habs couldn’t finish the job

    • Lafleurguy says:

      For me and many others, it’s rooting against the loathesome Bruins, hockey’s Baltimore Ravens.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • Cal says:

      Go gooins. Then they lose next round and the karmic wheel is put back into balance.

    • veryhabby says:

      Go Boston Go. I live in GTA and am soooo tired of hearing about “LEAFS NATION”. I do think leafs will win, which means I’m in for another 2 weeks of misery

      • kalevine says:

        I live in Boston and that’s one reason I ant the B’s to lose. But even more, the B’s can’t be counted out as Cup contenders until they are eliminated. The Leafs are not Cup contenders.

    • sudburyhabfan says:

      Well, in my neck of the woods, it would be disastrous for the Leafs to win!!!! way too many Leaf fans would be unbearable…forever…they would never shut up.

      Bruin Fans are way more tolerable for me so I will have to cheer for the Bruins this round and Pittsburgh next. If it is Ottawa and the Bruins then I will have to go West.

  57. Kooch7800 says:

    so…..if Kabrele possible won’t get bought out but traded and we eat some salary….why was he not playing? I am not a Kabrele fan but he would have been an upgrade out there

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • kalevine says:

      crossed my mind many times, especially with the PP sputtering and the team bottled up in its own end. It was classless to sit him so he could be bought out.

    • Phil C says:

      I wondered the same myself, especially after Emelin went down. He was much fitter than last year, but was not really given a good look. Therrien seemed down on him from the beginning, maybe some leftover frustration from last year.

  58. HardHabits says:

    My take on the Bergevin presser:

    First off he said the Senators were the better team. That should stop all those who claim luck was a factor in their tracks.

    The Habs were the smallest and lightest team in the play-offs.
    About added physicality and the idea that the Habs need to be bigger to win

    MB believes in balance:
    He says small and fast players have been part of the winning combo.
    That you don’t change the make-up of a team over night.
    All teams want to big fast and strong.
    You can’t win with all big guys and can’t win with all small guys.
    What is required is character + balance.

    About DD’s performance slipping after the extension
    DD was eligoble for arbitration so had to be signed
    He is still young, did not perform up to expectations and should bounce back.

    Will the team get bigger?
    MB does not want to reveal his cards. Says balance is important. That means the Habs will get bigger as they currently lack this balance.

    My quote from yesterday:

    “I like small skilled players, and all championship teams have them. The idea is balance. When a team lacks skilled players who are also bigger they lose the pitched battles along the boards, they take the brunt of the hits, and end up being on the worst for it at the end of collisions. It’s not rocket science. It’s simple physics.”

    MB says he will stay the course and that the best way to add players is via the draft. You don’t build a championship team via free agency. Mucic to my ears really.

    Mike Gillis said it first. Youth is the best way to go. All teams are looking for the same type of players. Trades are options. Bergevin would rather build via the draft.

    • The Jackal says:

      MB will be looking at Corsi/Fenwick numbers before making any choices.

      PS – luck was a big factor, just because MB did not say that doesn’t mean he does not think it played a role. It would look unsportsmanlike to claim that it was, but even Alfredsson was saying they got lucky and realized they needed to close out the series and run away with the steal.

      It happens, it’s sports. Luck will always be a factor.
      As much as we like to say a team’s play determines everything, that is obviously not true. At that level, where mistakes are uncommon and everyone is so good, luck will always be a factor.

      Either way, acknowledging that does not mean that there are no problems with the teams or areas to improve in. MB knows that, and will address them. But not acknowledging that the Habs lost because of other factors sells the team short. They had 1 bad game.

      Anyway, Habs fans are clearly in the anger stage of loss.

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      • kalevine says:

        there was some bad luck but nothing compared to the loss to the Flyers in 2008. I think they hit3-4 posts a game and had many chances to run away with it until the Flyers would pop a stoppable fluke goal and run away with it. Against Ottawa they had the lead in 2 of the losses and couldn’t hold it in the 3rd period. Maybe with a bit more luck the lead could have been bigger, but I think you have to give teh Sens credit for totally dominating the 3rd period, even if they got some reffing help in one of the games

      • Gally365 says:

        I don’t believe it was all luck. The Guy between the pipes was one of the main reasons Ottawa beat the habs and the other was toughness. anyone who didn’t see that. Don’t know much about Hockey.

        Except for one game. we were weak in goal and soft as feathers. we’ve been playing with a injury prone team for years and when the going gets tough they don’t last long. For Ottawa. Goal Tending and toughness is what won it.

        If they play the same against Pittsburgh. Ottawa will be the winner.

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      Luck wasn’t a factor? At all? Going too far, there.

  59. Marc10 says:

    There’s no way Marc shows up and says “we’re after a whole bunch of tough guys and big, tough D men…” What would be the point of that? (I do think given MT’s background, that’s a high priority for MB to deliver some toughness and size…)

    Also slamming the guys or the coaches for embarrassing themselves during that beat down in Ottawa wouldn’t be on the cards. What would be the point of that…? (He did well to offer some support…)

    Overall, good PR job. He was quite candid that Price needed to be better while applying the fire hose to those wanting to trade Price for a bag of pucks… Solid.

    Haters will continue to spew but MB did well to contain their ‘trade them all’ philosophy to the outpatient fringes of the net… like this site! :)

    Now let’s see what he does at the draft table and on the market (if there’s anything out there he can pull off…)

  60. You know what I find funny about the people who read what ever they want into Jack Todd’s article.

    1. They applaud his opinion as fact.
    2. They are convinced that he knows what he’s talking about.
    3. They accept his words are law even though he’s from Nebraska, and never played the game in his life but they slam a past NHL player, turned Manager who took this team from last to 2nd, and into the playoffs.

    I absolutely laugh every time I see someone cheering Mr Todd on, what’s the term from that show? “Nebraska Corn Husker”, yes but he’s educated and can write, therefor I will respect him. He’s accomplished more than I ever will in that field. :lol: Why do I picture you rubbing your hands together after every Price story, and giggling like a kid in a candy store :)

    Oh do I love this site. When ever I want to giggle, all I have to do is post these stats…..

    1 Jacques Plante- 314
    2 Patrick Roy- 289
    3 Ken Dryden- 258
    4 Bill Durnan- 208
    5 Georges Vézina- 175
    6 George Hainsworth- 167
    7 Carey Price- 145 Oh Yeah Baby, what position do you play?
    8 Michel Larocque- 144
    9 José Théodore -141
    10 Gerry McNeil -119

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    • Chris says:

      Have you read Jack Todd’s article?

      My fear is that a lot of people are reacting to the reaction to Todd’s article, and maybe not to what he actually said.

      I know that other interpretations are out there, but I read that more as an indictment of the obsession of fans with the players and less with criticism of Price the player. His only comment vis-a-vis Price was the Bergevin should make sure to sit down with Price and make sure that everything is in place to let Price succeed. This is somewhat trite, because there every GM does this with every player.

      • New says:

        Most folks have their minds made up and we all have one thing in common: No pro team would pay us for what we think.

        You’re right. Price, Subban, and a couple other’s can’t go anywhere without people bugging them. The people bugging them claim it is part of the deal, but I never saw a hockey player burst into a family dinner and tell you how badly you handled that last sale, file, or purchase.

        Sometimes the hardest part of being a lifelong Habs fan is dealing with the other fans. They cause more embarrassment than the players do, Kostitsyns aside and the exception proving the Riberio rule.

    • The Cat says:

      What about each of those guys playoff records and win pct based on the amount of games they played? That’d make me giggle! ^_^

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

      • Luke says:

        Especially if you look only at their record as a 25year old and younger.

        • Chris says:

          You can only compare goaltenders against their peers. Comparing Price and Hainsworth is pretty much the most ridiculous thing imaginable.

          For example, in Hainsworth’s era the goaltender wasn’t allowed to leave his feet. But then again, players were not allowed to pass the puck forwards.

          In Durnan’s era, the idea of a slapshot was practically unheard of. Today, goaltenders are facing guys with Diaz’s build able to crank 95-100 mph slap shots while also having to deal with 6’4″, 230 pound forwards in their face.

          In most eras, a goaltender had to put in some time before they would even be considered to be the starter. Jacques Plante became the full-time Canadiens goaltender in 1954-55, at age 25. Georges Hainesworth made his debut at age 27. Hainsworth was 29. Vezina was anomalous in that he was 23.

          Moreover, you need to look at the seasons.

          In 1919-20, the season was 24 games.

          In 1939-40, the season was 48 games.

          By 1959-60, they were up to a 70 game season.

          In 1979-80, it was up to the more familiar 80 games.

          Then you look at coaching philosophies. Until the 1967 expansion, it wasn’t uncommon to see a team ride a goaltender for the whole season. Jacques Plante played 69 of the Canadiens’ 70 games in 1959-60. Glenn Hall played every game for years upon years, an ironman streak that will never be broken.

          In the 1980’s, coaching philosophy dictated that teams should platoon their goalies to keep their #1 fresh for the playoffs. So the best guys would usually play 40-50 games and the rest would go to a capable backup. The late 1980’s Montreal Canadiens were one of the best teams in the NHL, and Patrick Roy played 47-54 games per season while establishing himself as one of the best goalies in franchise history.

          Then the 1990’s rolled along and the goalies suddenly started playing way more games. Credit it to Grant Fuhr and Tom Barasso and Mike Liut, but suddenly Roy was playing 60-70 games per year. Brodeur was playing 70-80 games. Now, the expectation is that a goalie isn’t elite unless they are playing 70+ games.

          There is nothing more useless in hockey history than comparing goaltender statistics across eras. It doesn’t matter if you are talking wins, GAA, SV% or even Stanley Cups…the game has changed so dramatically over the eras that you frequently run into comparing apples with celery.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Luke, tsk tsk, you should have known better.

          • Luke says:

            yup. You are right.

            I was being rhetorical. I agree with you Chris, you can’t compare players between eras.

            (Hangs head in shame).

  61. jrshabs1 says:

    So I gather the Bergevin presser was just one big cliche. character.. work ethic…I’m sure using our speed was in there somewhere. Did anybody ask..’how did you feel Mr. Bergevin when your team got physically dominated and embarrased by the 3rd tougest team in your division?’ What were your thoughts when rookie Galchenyuk was the only Hab to come Eller’s aid when he was knocked out and laying on the ice?
    I hope the Habs don’t draft anybody under 6’3″ 210 lbs…I may hand in my membership card if another 5’09” 165 lb forward pulls on a Hab jersey on draft day.

    Go Habs Go!!

  62. Lafleurguy says:

    Jarome Iginla as a depth player is available for 1 to 4 rounds of playoff games this season only; he will be an UFA July 1st. The depth M. Bergevin refers to is the kind that allowed Detroit to qualify for 22 consecutive playoffs with a few championships in that time span with different combinations of players, and not one all-star goalie except a part-time and post-Vezina years Dominek Hasek. After Fedorov left for big money, and Yzerman (American pronunciation, is-ZEER-man, Pres. Clinton) retired, the Red Wings were able to find Niklas Lidstrom and Pavel Datsyuk, Tomas Holmstrom, and Henry Zetterberg. The Red Wings scouting department has been far more successful than Trevor Timmins’ team.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

    • Luke says:

      Actually, and I’m sure someone will re-post the numbers, Timmins & the Habs have been far more successful at drafting NHL players than the Red Wings have.
      Now, Lidstrom is a ridiculous home run. One of the best (#3)defensemen of all time. That helps…

      • Lafleurguy says:

        And Datsyuk, like Markov was a sixth round pick. I just am really impressed with the duration of the Red Wings success is the real point I want to make. I’m partly relieved the Canucks had only that one playoff year of success with Chris Higgins and Maxim Lapierre in their line-up.

        “May you live in interesting times.”

  63. frontenac1 says:

    “Draft and Develop Internally”So,Marc is going to draft Enforcers out of Junior? That should be interesting.

    • Marc10 says:

      I think those guys you might invite to camp…

      I suspect his comments refer to top 9 players. He might however re-orient Timmins draft strategy to favour Milan Lucic types when they’re available as opposed to drafting the smaller skilled guys we’ve picked by the bushel.

    • Maritime Ron says:

      When did he state he will draft enforcers?

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Further to Marc10’s point, the Leafs drafted Shaun Thornton (now with Boston), but picked up Colton Orr as an UFA, and re-upped with a second contract, and picked up Fraser McLaren from San Jose off waivers (will double-check); they had enough surplus that they were able to peddle a very serviceable Mike Brown to the Oilers for a 4th round pick. Ottawa had to trade something to get Kassian. Tom Sestito was picked up off waivers by the Canucks. The point is, enforcers are available if there is a desire to obtain one.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

      • Luke says:

        Don’t forget the Leafs also waived Orr at least once last year (and again at the beggining of this year I think) and Kassian was waived and unclaimed (so was McGratton) earlier in the year as well.

  64. Twoonie says:

    Not sure if I find the comments by all the armchair GM’s here funny or even more cliche’d than what hockey players say.

    More of the same old attempts to read between the lines.
    More of the same old PK wants out BS based on one sentence.
    Same old trade theories for Price.

    No one that will happen, if yer bored, at least make up a ridiculous and original theory or conspiracy.

    That’s my two bucks.

  65. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Did anyone catch what he said about Collberg? Sounds like Kristo will be in Hamilton next year…Collberg too?

    • Kooch7800 says:

      That would be great. Let them both develop and give them a couple call ups during the season.

      I watched the US vs Germany game yesterday. Kristo was invisible but didn’t seem to be getting many minutes. Aaron Paulisj played really well though

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  66. Maritime Ron says:

    Great to see the thought process of Bergevin concerning young guys and the prior old school that a young one can’t step in

    ” Work hard-show you belong, and I’ll find a place for you on the team”

    How refreshing!

  67. Small_Town_Boy says:

    If MB is 100% behind Carey he needs to get rid of Groulx …

    Dat’s wha me tinks

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Rick St. Croix has contributed to much more reliable goaltending from James Reimer than the famous Francois Allaire did. You have a point.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

      • Luke says:

        That’s because Allaire teaches his style to a goalie. He doesn’t work WITH a goalie’s style.
        I wonder if we see Kolzig at some point?

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      He said he 150% behind Carey Price btw ;-).

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    • Maritime Ron says:

      Allaire has said some very nice things about Price recently, yet says he needs work on his foot movement and lateral movement.
      Wonder if he is in the equation?

  68. HabFanSince72 says:

    Let’s say Bergevin did want to trade Price.

    Which teams might be interested?

    What could we get?

    How would we go about finding a replacement?

    • Small_Town_Boy says:

      That narrows the list down to 24 teams

      Dat’s wha me tinks

    • SnowManHabs85 says:

      To St. Louis for Halak!

      Oh no I didn’t :P

      Win is a win, but I hope we win…..Oh we lost….

    • kalevine says:

      on the one hand people say that goalies have less impact on team success than many other positions, and on the other hand act like Price would be hard to replace. I think he could replaced by an equally(or more) competent goaltender at a lower price. Habs would be giving up his potential but at some point they will be resigned to do that anyway. Why not do it now rather than wait till his value has dropped. Sure he might win the cup with somebody else, doesn’t mean he would have ever won it here. I’d say good for him

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      Every team in the NHL, save perhaps the Rangers.

    • PG_doesnt_stand_for_Pierre_Gauthier says:

      Philadelphia if they get rid of Bryzgalov
      Florida if they don’t trust Markstrom
      Edmonton and Calgary
      Colorado might bite as well
      Islanders
      Phoenix if they don’t resign Smith

      There are enough potential buyers, but my guess would be how to get a decent return. Package Price and Plekanec + our first rounder to Florida to get a crack at drafting Drouin, maybe.

      But then you need another trade just to get another goalie. Bernier in LA? He’s not proven yet but might be a solution..
      Mike Smith will ask the moon after one solid season and a half.
      And unless Luongo is untradeable and not bought back, Corey Schneider but then again he hasn’t played a full season as a starter yet…

      Best hope right now would be staying put with Price and draft a goalie this year to groom one for the next few years…

      Markov to Subban, he scores!

    • Maritime Ron says:

      non sequitur

    • Bill says:

      I think Pittsburgh, Buffalo, and Calgary are all good possibilities. At some point next year New Jersey will be looking for a goalie, and if the Islanders get smart and buy out Dipietro, maybe them too.

      You could get a similar high quality player at any position. I would target a defenceman.

      As for a replacement, who cares, according to you any goalie would be better, haha. In the words of The Dude: “Tokarski!!”

      How about we don’t trade him and build a better team around him?

      Full Breezer 4 Life

  69. Maritime Ron says:

    Bergevin about fights (the Ottawa stuff)

    ” It’s not how many you win or lose, but how many you show up in”


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