Bergevin finalist for NHL’s GM of the Year Award; Subban joins Team Canada

Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin held his end-of-season press conference Monday in Brossard after the NHL announced that he is a finalist for the 2013 General Manager of the Year Award along with Bob Murray of the Anaheim Ducks and Ray Shero of the Pittsburgh Penguins. The award is voted on by the 30 NHL GMs and a panel of NHL executives and members of the print and broadcast media.

It was also announced on Monday that Canadiens defenceman P.K. Subban will join Team Canada for the remainder of the World Hockey Championship in Stockholm and will join the squad in time for Thursday’s quarterfinal game.

While the bulk of the Canadiens players are signed for next season, Bergevin will have decisions to make this offseason on a number of restricted and unrestricted free agents.

The GM’s first order of business will be dealing with Tomas Kaberle, who has one year remaining on a contract the Canadiens acquired from the Carolina Hurricanes. Bergevin is expected to save $4.25 million in cap space by using his second amnesty buyout on Kaberle. He used the first one before this season started on Scott Gomez.

Yannick Weber will be a restricted free agent in July. Jeff Halpern, who has changed addresses five times since 2010, would like to stay in Montreal. Fourth-liner Colby Armstrong is also hoping to stay.

There will be at least one spot available on the top two lines because unrestricted free agent Michael Ryder is likely on his way out of town.

(Photo by John Kenney/The Gazette)

Who stays and who goes? by Pat Hickey

Injury report: fascinating and squeamish, by Pat Hickey

Price faces the bright lights again, by Dave Stubbs

Price’s comments should set off alarms, by Jack Todd

Eller has no memory of check, by Brenda Branswell

Bounced Habs go home to heal, by Pat Hickey

Comments from Canadiens’ locker room

Photo gallery of Habs clearing out lockers

Emmy winner Pierre McGuire weighs in on Habs, by Stu Cowan

Video: Lars Eller speaks to media

1,144 Comments

  1. Ian Cobb says:

    Bergevin said nothing new!
    He is going to continue to build this team for the long term through the DRAFT. Free agents are not the way to grow a winning team, you promote from within as players mature.

    Again, we have the finest scouting department in the NHL, to evaluate prospects and help select the very best available from around the world each year. Then it is our job to develop them properly over years.

    I think that he gets it! long term champion teams are not purchased, they are developed over years.

    Marc Bergevin will be our GM for very many years!

    IAN

  2. Bill says:

    Instead of bashing the players we’ve got, maybe we could think about the good they can do and what needs to be built around them.

    In Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Subban, Pacioretty, and Price, there is a very solid core. Bergevin seems to be taking the long view and I am ok with that.

    All of the above guys got a lot of criticism at some point in the season – Gallagher excepted, though he deserved some for a disappointing playoff – but in no way do I believe those guys aren’t good enough.

    They need to be supplemented with the right players around them.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Gallagher played a good playoff as well. Don’t let his plus/minus cloud your view.
      He did everything and was everywhere.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • The Dude says:

      Bill,if they don’t get those boy’s lots of protection right away ,their not going to have long careers,period!

  3. Maritime Ron says:

    Question about over-achieving

    Bergevin ” If we stayed healthy, we would be in the pack”
    ” Not much difference between playoff teams”
    ” Next year? It’s gonna be real real hard”

    • habsfan0 says:

      ” Next year? It’s gonna be real real hard”

      This is basically a euphemism for: “Be prepared for some regression in the team’s performance next year.”

  4. Maritime Ron says:

    Bergevin
    ” Louis Leblanc took a step backwards. We had a talk. He is still part of the plan”

  5. KenD29 says:

    does anyone really believe MB is going to say to the media that he made a mistake giving DD the extension? Or that his coaching staff did not prepare the team well? Or that Price was outgoaled in the playoffs?

    No way is he going to give the media the chance at what may or may not transpire within the organization between now and TC.

    All About Work Ethic

    • The Cat says:

      True, nor is he going to say anything but having 100% confidence in whoever it is…Some might say that a public show of confidence is usually a bad sign.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        You’re just setting up everything to be a ‘bad sign’.

        Scenario 1: When asked about Player X, Bergevin doesn’t give him a public show of confidence.

        Interpretation: Bad sign.

        Scenario 2: When asked about Player X, Bergevin doesn’t give him a public show of confidence.

        Interpretation: Bad sign.

    • issie74 says:

      He said re:DD that is what he would be awarded if he went to arbitration.

      NorthTOHab

  6. Maritime Ron says:

    Bergevin is doing a great job protecting Carey Price from respectful questions.

    I hope Price is listening!

  7. Habfan10912 says:

    Is it me or did he kind of poo poo PK by saying, he still has a lot to learn?

  8. Maritime Ron says:

    Question ” You never worked with MT before”

    Bergevin” What’s important is how the team responded to Michel.
    “They were ready to play. They were well prepared. They were ready to play every night”

    • Timo says:

      Except for every game since they clinched the playoffs spot. A minor detail, really.

      • Habsrule1 says:

        Makes me wonder if you watched the playoffs. The Habs outplayed the sens in 3 of the 5 games.
        Sometimes the better team doesn’t win. MT deserves some blame but he did a lot more good than bad all season long.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • The Cat says:

      The teams work ethic was indeed beyond reproach.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  9. Maritime Ron says:

    Question about coaching staff

    ” very satisfied-we made good steps”

  10. habsfan0 says:

    MB said depth is very important and you don’t acquire depth at the trading deadline.

    But isn’t that exactly what Ray Shero did in Pittsburgh?

    • Timo says:

      Yeah, I am very not impressed that he is shutting down that UFA route. What’s wrong with UFAs? Besides, did he himself get “depth” in Drewiske? That trade was deep. So deep he still hasn’t surfaced as Habs lord and savior dman.

    • The Cat says:

      Zing!

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Chris says:

      Actually, Shero kind of did the opposite.

      Shero acquired stars (Iginla, Morrow), which forced Bylsma to sit some very useful depth players. Tyler Kennedy is one guy whose ice time has taken a big hit, and I would take him on the Habs any day.

      • habsfan0 says:

        It would seem to me that, by acquiring stars, you ARE adding depth to your roster.

        • The Jackal says:

          More firepower concentrated in a few guys is not depth.
          Depth is what the Rangers added.

          ______________________
          Hockey sine stercore tauri.

        • Chris says:

          Stars can’t always play well in those lesser roles. This is why you sometimes saw a guy like Yzerman left off of Team Canada when he was younger, in favour of players like Brent Sutter.

          Nobody in their right mind would say that Sutter could hold Yzerman’s jockstrap when it came to talent or production. But as a depth forward, Yzerman was somewhat irrelevant, whereas Sutter could be dominant.

          I’m not a big fan of Shero’s acquisition of Morrow or Murray. I don’t think anybody can fault them for grabbing Iginla, but those other two guys were pretty expensive for what they bring the team, and they push guys who I think were better players in those roles (Kennedy, Jokinen, Bennett, Engelland) into sitting on the sidelines. That to me is not depth. That is squandered assets.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Think of it as a short-term infusion of depth. For the organization though, they spent some depth, giving away picks and prospects.

  11. Timo says:

    Subban will take Bergevin and Habs to cleaners.

  12. Adam says:

    Pretty hilarious. People whine about hockey players giving boring and cliche quotes. Then one of then says something truthful, honest, emotional and insightful and fans jump down his throat. We really do like eating our young here, don’t we?

  13. KenD29 says:

    re Price and goaltenders, forwards and d have a part in a goal against.

    All About Work Ethic

  14. Timo says:

    Based on Bergevin’s comments about size and draft looks like the bright future has been put on hold for about 4-5 years.

  15. Maritime Ron says:

    Question about Subban negotiations
    Bergevin ” He is under contract-I don’t negotiate in public-”

  16. habsfan0 says:

    While Marc Bergevin is extolling the virtues of Carey Price, RDS keeps showing goals being scored on him.

  17. Small_Town_Boy says:

    So there you have it. MB has 150% faith in Carey Price.

    Dat’s wha me tinks

  18. Habfan17 says:

    Bergevin makes sense with regards to Kaberle. He may be able to trade him for a late round pick and since teams can now cover part of his salary, he could offer to pay $1million of his salary, a team would get the cap hit if they are near the floor and some experience for one season. Molson is happy since that costs the team less and they get a late round pick and they still have one amnesty buyout available.

    Habfan17

  19. Maritime Ron says:

    Question from the press about Carey’s mental toughness

    Bergevin answer. ” Carey opened up to media” “Goalies mature later” ” Goalies are more exposed to mistakes”
    “Carey still has to mature and i have 150% confidence”

  20. Habfan10912 says:

    Interesting take on Kabrele buy out by MB. Made me go hmmmmmm.

  21. Maritime Ron says:

    It’s evident by Bergevin’s body language and somewhat evasive answers, that there is a concern about Price….but Bergevin said they will talk and make sure he has everything he needs to succeed

  22. Habfan17 says:

    I am liking Bergevin in the conference. He is gaining my confidence that he and his group know what to do and how to do it.

    His answers are great and I think we will see some moves that will surprise us.

    Habfan17

  23. Maritime Ron says:

    Will NOT confirm Galchenyuk will be a center next year

    • Chris says:

      For all intents and purposes, it has been over two years since Galchenyuk played centre regularly. If the Habs are going to have him on the team, they need him to be playing regularly. Playing on the wing is probably the best option for Galchenyuk’s development.

  24. Maritime Ron says:

    Bergevin says he will be looking for size in the draft
    Quote: “Easier said than done”

  25. Maritime Ron says:

    Bergevin asked about needs

    He says it’s not at the deadline you build, but building through the draft with character and speed.
    You don’t build championships via UFA

  26. Maritime Ron says:

    Bergevin about Carey Price:

    Tough pressure media markets in Canada
    Carey is young-mentions he is only 25.
    Bergevin is 100% behind Price and will do everything possible to help him

  27. Maritime Ron says:

    Bergevin talks about having “a balanced team” and “Character”

    He mentions the DD signing with his past-his to be summer arbitration rights…..

    He mentions Gallagher has character “off the charts”

    He credits the Montreal Canadiens with his GM nomination

    • KenD29 says:

      wish he had answered that he rushed the DD contract extension.

      All About Work Ethic

    • HardHabits says:

      Something I wrote yesterday:

      I like small skilled players, and all championship teams have them. The idea is balance. When a team lacks skilled players who are also bigger they lose the pitched battles along the boards, they take the brunt of the hits, and end up being on the worst for it at the end of collisions. It’s not rocket science. It’s simple physics.

  28. Shackles says:

    We all have our list of dream UFAs for MB to sign this summer. One problem that keeps getting overlooked; how do you make Mtl an attractive destination? “Hello potential UFA. How would you feel about playing hockey in a town where you are under constant scrutiny in a fishbowl and where you’ll be taxed up that wazoo?” I love the Habs but MB is going to have to be a damn good used car salesman to bring in some talent.
    IMO I can’t see massive headwound Horton coming on board. I think he’s pretty comfortable playing on an established contender.

  29. HankHardball says:

    Tiger Woods won his 4th tournament of the year yesterday. Despite everything he’s accomplished in his PGA career, he never won 4 times this quickly into a golf season before.

    Is he a better athlete now at 37yrs old than he was at 27? Of course not. But he is more mature and experienced.

    Goalies peak later in their careers than other positional hockey players. Goalies’ best years are usually in their early 30′s.

    At 25, Carey Price still has years of improvement ahead of him. I’m not comparing him to Tiger Woods.

    But blaming Carey for the 1st round exit is completely out of whack. Especially considering NOBODY picked the Habs to finish 2nd in the Conference.

    In hockey, you win as a team and you lose as a team.

  30. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …add Me to the list thinking ‘WHAT??? …NO BRIAN F. MURRAY ???’ on the list of finalists for the Jack Adams!!!

    …Ya gotta be pullin’ My leg !

  31. Ian Cobb says:

    Wonder WHY Bergevin is not having Therrien with him, a little unusual??

  32. HabinBurlington says:

    Stubbs most recent tweet about how Price actually hates grocery shopping is interesting. But I am supposed to be freaking out today based on some gobbily goo which Todd wrote….

  33. habsfan0 says:

    I hope MB takes suggestions on HIO as to what to do to improve Habs to heart.

  34. HardHabits says:

    Another example of why Berkshire is the least relevant blogger in the Habsosphere.

    Apparently the Habs lost the series because of bad luck. Their Fenwick rating although not dominant enough to have them regress to the mean still proves beyond a statistical doubt that the Habs actually won the series and are advancing in the fantasy league.

    Every pundit and every ex-hockey player says the Habs need to bulk up, especially on defence but also up front. MB’s press conference is coming up. I am quite confident that he will mention adding more size and grit to the team and never once will mention the team’s Fenwick and Corsi ratings, which are insignificant and meaningless stats.

    That AB can continue to preach to his gaggle of converts on HOTP is evidence that he lives and thinks in a bubble disconnected from reality.

    • Cal says:

      Any time it’s time for “deep stats”, my BS meter goes off and I stop reading. You can’t “moneyball” hockey. The variances from rink to rink as to hits and shots lets me know there is no base line standard from which to operate.
      The only stats that matter is the W-L columns. All else is a hysterical attempt at quantifying that which can’t be.

    • christophor says:

      To be fair, he does say that the sample size is tiny

      To throw out a stat that, long term, closely correlates with success, is asinine.

      • HardHabits says:

        The only thing asinine about that article is its premise.

      • The Jackal says:

        There is nothing asinine with that article.
        What is asinine is people rejecting a perfectly sound explanation just because it is not satisfactory to them. Luck is a part of sports, sometimes more so than skill. People don’t like to admit that but it’s the truth.

        ______________________
        Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      1. Why do you care about the least relevant blogger then?
      2. Saying that the Habs size isn´t a problem at all in my point of view would be as stupid as blaming the loss to Ottawa entirely on size. Some people here actually think the Habs need three big physical dman after this series. How ridiculous is that?
      3. Luck is always a big factor in hockey. It´s just so unbelievably popular to deny it. You score off a weak shot from the blue line because off a double deflection while the other team hits the crossbar on a nearly perfect 2-1 break…
      4. Sadly most pundits and ex-players are pretty lazy and superficial. Just like the vast majority here.
      5. I trust my eyes more than any stat and I also think that any stat can be misleading but why would Fenwick and Corsi be insignificant and meaningless? I don´t think so at all.
      6. In my point of view the Habs lost the series mainly because of injuries. Then comes the ridiculous reffing of game four and then, certainly less important: Luck, Goaltending and a lack of size.

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        This. ^

        Although I really like the idea of three physical defensemen who can take away time and space from attacking forwards, win board battles, lay out some heavy checks in our zone, and either can make a good first pass or have a good slapshot. You then have Subban (who is great at everything), Markov (or Beaulieu in the future) and maybe Diaz as the guys helping in the Ozone.

        • Bob_Sacamano says:

          Sorry, I meant three new physical dmen. We already have Emelin, Subban and Tinordi and in my point of view one new guy would be enough.

          • jedimyrmidon says:

            I counted Subban as an ‘offensive’ guy even though he’s excellent in pretty much every facet except fighting. I think the team would be really impressive if they managed to get a guy like Methot and paired him with Subban: it would be one of the most intimidating pairings to play against. Maybe Tinordi will eventually be that guy.

            Then you have Markov-Emelin (Beaulieu-Emelin). Beaulieu is a smooth skating, offensive Dman who has an attitude and might be able to play physically and be scarppy.

            And then a very tough 3rd pairing with size. I’m conflicted about Diaz. He’s a good player: mobile, very good at passing, good positionally. Certainly can contribute. But in terms of an achievable optimal team configuration, not sure if he has a place.

      • The Jackal says:

        Some people just don’t get stats.

        Berk’s analysis is spot on this case.
        The series was largely decided on bounces and puck luck.
        When your team plays better but still loses, it’s bad luck.
        Just like the Bruins. They dominate the leafs but still lost a few games.

        ______________________
        Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • Phil C says:

      Although I agree that too much is made of the size issue, his belief that a better corsi = the better team and/or player is fanatic and wrong. This series is a good example of why those stats are not 100% reliable as a predictor of success. The Habs had the puck more, but had trouble creating dangerous plays, whereas the Sens always made the most of their chances with traffic, tips, screens, getting the puck to the net/slot, ie playoff-type goals.

      • HardHabits says:

        I don’t think that lack of size was the single mitigating factor but it was very relevant. The Sens’ D was better at keeping the Habs forwards outside of Anderson’s kitchen, away from rebounds, unable to create tic-tac-toe plays and on the periphery. The Habs’ D by contrast was routinely scrambling in its own end and vulnerable to chaos in front of Price’s crease because of their inability to physically keep the Sens from capitalizing.

        IMMHO, a team cannot be successful in the play-offs carrying Gionta, Desharnais and Galagher, when you’re #1 centre is Plekanec. Size was a major factor.

        As Bergevin says, (and I said it yesterday) balance is necessary, between robust players and skilled players. Ideally the players a team needs to win are all quick, big and skilled, but 30 teams compete for such players.

        To categorically deny that size was a factor is patently false. AB’s article is an example of a logical fallacious argument, laced with falsehoods and incorrectly assuming that statistical data is evidence, whereas actual facts are to be dismissed as they don’t jive with manipulated data, and in denial of the truth.

        • Phil C says:

          Agree that the Habs have too many small players, especially on defense, so it was definitely a factor. I just get tired of hearing that it is the reason why they lost, which is a superficial and lazy analysis.

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      Like it or not, I do believe ‘luck’ played a huge role in the Habs going down 4-1 instead of having a longer series. And I think their refuting of ‘size’ being the main reason for the Habs’ loss is trying to counter the notion that size is everything. Don’t get me wrong, a priority should be adding good hockey players with size, but it’s one priority among others. You don’t want to add a bunch of Blundens or Fraser McLarens.

      I like reading their articles, and they’re certainly not irrelevant. Sure, you may not agree with their arguments or the methods they employ, but it seems that you ‘hate’ what they write.

      At the very least, they put a lot of thought into it unlike many of the bashing that goes on here. At the very least, I get the distinct impression that over at HOTP, they are Habs fans unlike, once again, many here at HIO.

      Of course, they can be condescending towards the masses that do not appreciate Corsi and Fenwick, and it can rub people the wrong way, and Berkshire can certainly be confrontational…

      • The Jackal says:

        It rubs people who don’t understand the wrong way because they have no idea what those stats mean. They are very useful in analyzing hockey.

        ______________________
        Hockey sine stercore tauri.

    • punkster says:

      It takes so much to put together a winning hockey team, a mixture of skill, speed, and yes these days, size…finding the balance is the key.

      ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

  35. arcosenate says:

    OK, how good would Artyukhin have looked lining up for that draw next to Chris Neill before the donnybrook? He’s huge, he can skate, he can hit, he can stand in front of the net on the PP and yes, he can fight.

    I know it gets repetitive but he’s big and crazy enough to keep alot of people honest out there.

  36. The Dude says:

    So let’s connect the dots Carey… you cant stop pucks because of the pressure of having a lack of privacy from having so many Fans and all that money,yep …yer on dots!

    • ZepFan2 says:

      Is that what the voices in your head are telling you? If so, they are completely nuts.

      ———————————————————————-
      Ka is a wheel.

      “On we sweep, with threshing oar.
      Our only goal will be the Stanley Cup!” – Danno

      For Your Life

    • Small_Town_Boy says:

      Give it a fiffin rest & get out & get a job!

      Dat’s wha me tinks

    • HardHabits says:

      That is such crap. Put Price behind the Sens’ D and Anderson behind the Habs’ D and the Sens still win. The difference is as follows:

      JARED COWEN 6′ 5″ 230
      ERIC GRYBA 6′ 4″ 222
      MARC METHOT 6′ 3″ 231
      CHRIS PHILLIPS 6′ 3″ 221
      SERGEI GONCHAR 6′ 2″ 206
      ERIK KARLSSON 6′ 0″ 175

      JARRED TINORDI 6′ 6″ 205
      JOSH GORGES 6′ 1″ 203
      P.K. SUBBAN 6′ 0″ 216
      ANDREI MARKOV 6′ 0″ 204
      RAPHAEL DIAZ 5′ 11″ 197
      FRANCIS BOUILLON 5′ 8″ 197

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        100% correct HH.

        And Gorges is 5’11″ – IMO,

        ****************
        “It’s frightening to contemplate how this undersized team would fare in a seven-game series against St. Louis, L.A. or Chicago..”

        –Mike Boone

        • HardHabits says:

          On the Habs list, the only Keepers are Tinordi and Subban and PK should be the smallest defence man, meaning the rest of the D corps needs to bulk up in a major way.

        • showey47 says:

          Who looks like he plays smaller. IMO if a part of the habs core gets traded this summer,my money is on him.If the habs D is going to get upgraded then something is going to have to give.

      • Habfan17 says:

        I think they fudge Gorges size, I think he is actually 6’0 and 198

        Habfan17

      • The Dude says:

        The last game of the series and the stops Anderson made could not be done by Carey Price.

      • Habfan17 says:

        In fairness too, in the system.
        Pateryn, 6’2 220
        Beaulieu, 6’3 191
        Dietz 6’1 193
        Didier 6’2 202

        I know not as big but at least bigger
        Two players in the first round I wouldn’t mind the Habs targeting;
        Samuel Morin defence 6’7 200, very good skater and hockey sense
        Ristolainen defence 6’4 207 mean streak

        Habfan17

        • Hobie Hansen says:

          Nobody is disputing that down the road the system is looking better.

          ****************
          “It’s frightening to contemplate how this undersized team would fare in a seven-game series against St. Louis, L.A. or Chicago..”

          –Mike Boone

      • Small_Town_Boy says:

        BS …

        Every in close chance Montreal had on Anderson they scored. So if Anderson was in Montreal’s net he would get let up!

        Dat’s wha me tinks

  37. Ian Cobb says:

    How can I see or even hear Bergevin’s news conference???
    I do not get RDS.
    What about on here or radio???
    HOW??

  38. Timo says:

    Just read Todd’s article. First – boo hoo Carey Price. I’ll send him a box of tissues.

    Second, I guess that rules out trading him to Vancoucer for Bobby Lou. (wouldn’t that be a great trade?) But there are plenty of cities in US where no one gives rats ass about hockey that Price will feel totally anonymous. Man, sometimes I just feel bad for these guys. What a tough life.

  39. ari says:

    so 30 GMs vote.but how many are these panel of NHL and media people?

  40. HabinBurlington says:

    It will be interesting to see how the Boogard wrongful death suit against the NHL plays out. I have to believe a great deal of the leagues dirty laundry could get aired.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=423043

    • D Mex says:

      According to reports, the family’s lawyer has said as much.

      ALWAYS Habs -
      D Mex

    • Luke says:

      Between this & the NFL class action… who knows how the landscape may change… for one thing, the argument for/against dedicated fighters may become moot.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      The most interesting part of that situation to me, is that the clubs we aware he was addicted to pain killers. Kinda sad the Rangers acquired him, knowing full well that he was having problems with drugs. No compassion.

      ****************
      “It’s frightening to contemplate how this undersized team would fare in a seven-game series against St. Louis, L.A. or Chicago..”

      –Mike Boone

    • Habfan10912 says:

      I’d love to hear Ben’s opinion but in my very limited dealing with lawsuits, I suspect this will get settled way before any court room drama.

    • Phil C says:

      These are type of lawsuits that could result in real change in the sport of hockey. Can’t come soon enough IMO.

  41. Maritime Ron says:

    Ray Shero a GM finalist?
    For doing what exactly?
    Stealing away Iginla from the Bruins?

    What about Bryan Murray?
    How is he not on that list?
    Losing Spezza-Karlsson-Anderson-Cowan…Michalek for 1/2 the season-and a host of others during the year, then having drafted players/making moves that could come right in and get the Sens to the playoffs.

    The Ottawa payroll was ranked 25th – $16M below the Cap Ceiling and $13M less than our Habs Cap hit spending.
    That’s the sign of a good GM.

    • Habfan17 says:

      I agree, Murray should be in the running. Murray also made the tough decision to trade so called non-tradeable, popular players to get the team going in the right direction. Maclean said the team ws good but could not compete until Murray started drafting bigger, tough, skilled players to mix in. Sounds like the recipe Bergevin is following.

      Habfan17

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Shero did a great job of adding talent to his roster, I am not sure how that can be denied. But I also agree that Bryan Murray has done a great job in Ottawa the past few years, the depth he has found for that roster is incredible. His stockpiling of goalies and then able to cash them in for other players was very well done.

      • Maritime Ron says:

        Shero was ‘all in’ and it’s great to have that luxury when you win the Crosby sweepstakes and choose 1st or 2nd in 4 consectutive drafts.
        That allowed him to move a 1st+ 2/2nds+ 2 prospects. Not too many GMs have that luxury or luck of being a disaster for several years in a row.

        Imagine what our Habs could do if we had either the 1st or 2nd overall picks for 4 years in a row that would also give us 31 and 32?

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Ron, I agree. Brian Murray has done a masterful job in Ottawa and for him to not get any recognition is strange indeed.

  42. Lets just say without Carey Price in nets for next season? Where will our Habs finish in the division? Just trowing this out there for trolls to answer.

    Who in your right mind will be Habs starting goalie for next season for all its worth? Just maybe, Carey Price just might need a change of scenery. I betcha a bottom dollar Carey Price will have a Stanley Cup before our Habs wins another one.

  43. Timo says:

    Was there ever another team with so many coach-GM-rookie-defenseman of the year candidates that flamed out so quickly in the first round? GM of the year… what a joke.

    • Luke says:

      So you aren’t be happy that they have ‘elite’ parts at Defense, Forward and in the front office…you are cranky because they lost in the playoffs the yeard after being last in the conference?

      ‘Twas a good season Timo. A bit of a drag the way it finished… sure… but it was good year. Don’t take it so personally.

      • Timo says:

        It could have been a much better season had the management recognized the need for more physical players and got Habs a couple during the season. Again, I don’t see why there was a need to waste an entire season “evaluating” what was plain obvious.

        I am happy with have Gallagher and PK.

  44. The Dude says:

    Wow….how ironic is it that Pricebots are the ones depressing Carey Price :)

  45. ed says:

    When last season ended I suggested that any team that had Price, Subban and Max was on the right track.

    without hesitation, I now say:

    any team that has Price, Subban, Tinordi, Max, Eller, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, is definitely on the right track.

    that’s 7 players now, up from 3 last year.

  46. Lafrich says:

    I really don’t care if Price wants to leave or not. I can only hope that the GM wants him to leave. He is an average goalie in the regular season, and a liability of a goalie in the playoffs getting paid 6.5M/year.

    Honestly, what has he ever done in the NHL to prove to any of us that he is an elite goalie?

    • Loonie says:

      His rookie year
      2010-2011
      2011-2012

      • Lafrich says:

        His rookie year? His play in the playoffs was the worst goaltending that I had seen by a professional in my 35 years or so of watching hockey.

        2011-2012 he was no good.
        Wasn’t this year (2012-2103) supposed to be a bounce back year for him, as well as the rest of the Habs?

        2010-2011 he was good. But shouldn’t he be that way every year? There are a multitude of goalies that are good for a year.

        What separates elite goaltenders from average ones is consistency – the ability to be very good almost always.

        • Loonie says:

          So Pekka Rinne isn’t an elite goalie now?
          If his play in the playoffs during his rookie year was the worst goaltending you’ve seen in 35 years you haven’t watched much hockey.
          Why would 2011-2012 have to be a bounce back year after a season where he was as you put it “good” with .923 save percentage, 2.35 GAA and 8 shutouts?

          You may as well come out and say you dislike Price for reasons other than his goaltending.

          • Lafrich says:

            When did I ever mention Pekka Rinne?

            You got me. It is not his performance as the reason I don’t like him. It is because he is from out west. I only like easterners.

          • Loonie says:

            What separates elite goaltenders from average ones is consistency – the ability to be very good almost always.

            When you call Vezina or near Vezina quality seasons “good” and refer to average or below average play as “the worst goaltending I’ve ever seen” you show your lack of objectivity on the subject.

          • Habfan17 says:

            Brodeur’s first seasons were not stellar. I do think that Price needs to gain consistency and stop sliding around on his pads all the time.
            Maybe he has had a change of heart and wants out. Maybe he is just voicing his frustrations. I would just like to see him step up and play at the top of his game when the team needs him most. I think next season is the one to see which Price we get. This was not a season to judge very well. Too many changes and a short season. I would n’t say we need 3 seasons for the team or Price to adjust, just one more.

            Habfan17

      • Timo says:

        Seems like every season is his rookie season.

    • Luke says:

      Who do you consider ELITE NHL goalies? Why are they considered elite?

      I’m truly curious. People drop “Elite” but it’s a subjective word with no clear definition.

      • Habfan17 says:

        If I were to define it, it would be goalies who consistently have goals against of 2.0 to 2.3 and a save % between 9.15 and 9.25. If teams can’t win with a goalie giving them these numbers, then it isn’t the goalie, it is the system or the team.

        Habfan17

  47. jrshabs1 says:

    #31
    Option# 1:
    stop the puck on a regular basis and the scrutiny won’t be so bad..it’s a pretty simple fix to your problem.
    Option #2:
    retire and void your new contract and move on.

    Go Habs Go!!

  48. thebonscott says:

    HOW MUCH CAP SPACE WILL THE HABS HAVE NEXT YEAR I WONDER????

    Carey Price meet Matt Foley.

  49. FuzE_gus says:

    I am a little sad the season is over. This year was a lot of unexpected fun. However, this year was an important step forward. It would be foolish to think the Habs were contenders after such a dismal year last year. But this proves the organisation is strengthening and there is a lot to look forward to. I’ll enjoy this summer and up my expectations “slightly” for next year. :)

    With Regards from FuzE_gus

  50. ebk says:

    Just read the Stubbs article on Price, then read the Todd article and some of the follow up posts. Got a good chuckle out of all the amateur Kreskins on here.

  51. Marc10 says:

    Leafs v Bruins, eh.

    Gotta go with Leafs on this one… They have the momentum, the hot goalie… Oh yeah, and I hate the Bruins more than all other teams combined.

  52. Lets see if Leafs would swap D. Mike Komisarek for Tomas Kaberle? His addition would solve RD and play a shut down roll in keeping big fwds away from CP. His contract will expire at end of next season.

    The way Ryan O’Byrne (RD) is playing in these playoffs could be another target to go after. This is the size we need back to give CP better protection. One year deal with an option.

    Markov – Subban (Pt Per Game Duo)
    Emelin/Beaulieu – Komisarek (Bone Crunchers)
    Tinordi – O’Byrne (Twin Towers)

    Trade Bouillon, Weber, Gorges & Drewskie to whomever. Kurtis Foster would be a nice UFA signing too on D. Bryan Bickell, Patrick Bordeleau, Raffi Torres, Brendan Morrow or Pascal Dupuis would be great additions for UFA’s just to name a few. Habs needs to make a few moves and get a big experience Centre for top two lines. Just have to wait and see what MB will do?

    Go Habs Go!!!

    Carey!!!! Carey!!! Carey!!!

    • ed says:

      Mike Komisarek is no longer an NHL calibre hockey player. he has regressed. He has no speed, no burst. He can not pass. He panics under pressure.

      He can not and will not protect anybody, sir.

      He can make an awkward d to d pass to a defensive partner, but even that’s not a sure thing this season.

      Sorry. Komisarek used to be one of my favorite Habs.

      But he’s flat out terrible.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Good idea, wrong players :-).

      ****************
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      –Mike Boone

    • ebk says:

      Toronto will buy out Komisarek. Why spend $4.5m on a AHL defenseman, when you can have him for less than $1.0m this summer. There are much better options out there than Komisarek though.

  53. Old Bald Bird says:

    I once had a friend who really made me chuckle with this line about his wife: “Betty thinks she can read minds, but unbeknownst to her, she can’t.” You had to know the couple to get the full humour, but I think the statement pretty well applies to the Price foofaraw.

    I don’t think we can read Price’s mind. Personally, I wouldn’t get from his words what a lot of you are getting.

  54. Hobie Hansen says:

    The one thing I’m impressed with is the Leafs ability to bang the Bruins around. I’ve never seen Boston knocked around like that.

    I hate both of them but I’d love it if Montreal could one day throw up the stop sign and let Boston know it’s not open season to smack around our players every game we play.

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    –Mike Boone

  55. habstrinifan says:

    Thank you Jack Todd for at least alerting the HABS brass through your article that simple common sense has to prompt the powers that be that they make sure this young man is simply going through a temporary bout of sadness from the disappointment of a series loss.

    • Loonie says:

      And I’d like to thank the people who aren’t falling all over themselves to run Price out of town.

      And what I mean by those people is those who are rational.

  56. habs-fan-84 says:

    MB did a pretty good job this year, but there’s no way he should win GM of the year.

    95% of the team was already here and or drafted by previous management.

    I suppose he instilled a “winning culture” (whatever that really means) but I don’t think there’s any way he wins this.

    nevertheless, it’s great to see the Habs organization in the running for many awards this year….lets hope the real award comes soon!

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I agree that the 95% pieces were already in place and to me
      He did ok but his biggest things were adding MT and Prust. He also resigned DD and Frankie B before the end of the season when both could have waited as they are not integral.

      This off season we will see what he is really made of

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • HammerHab says:

      ” 95% of the team was already here and or drafted by previous management.”

      And yet his tweaks and additions took them from 15th to 2nd. Of the finalists only Shero made more on-ice moves, but Bergevin made by far the most managerial moves changing nearly every important piece except Timmons & Groulx. He changed the culture of this team in one season. He deserves it as much as anyone.

      ———————————–

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      • Kooch7800 says:

        MT was more responsible for the culture change than MB IMHO.

        They also went from 15th to second in a shortened season. They would have not come close to 2nd in an 82 game season and the play at the end of the season showed it.

        The Sens GM Murray deserves a lot of credit. They have been slammed by injuries but have had guys who are ready to fill in. he has made some smart moves for their future and they are getting better and better

        To me MB hasn’t don’t anything spectacular yet. This off season we will see what type of GM he really is

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  57. HabFanSince72 says:

    Who cares if the Tronna media go nuts over a Leaf victory. The Bruins collapsing on home ice after holding a 3-1 lead would be so sweet. Unfortunately I don;t see it happening. As bad as the B’s are playing Rask is just too strong.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Agree, but I think the Bruins are in trouble. That team was looking old on the ice last night and the back to back games should favour the Leafs. Will be entertaining to watch.

      The Kessel vs. Seguin debate certainly takes on a different flavour if the Leafs win this series.

      • Loonie says:

        Not so fast pal. The Bruins won the Cup after trading Kessel and got Seguin, Hamilton and more for him.

        The only way that trade looks good in reality for the Leafs is if they win a Cup with Kessel.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I said a different flavour Tom, all I am saying is Kessel has been top 10 in scoring throughout the entire league the past 2 seasons. He is outplaying Seguin in my opinion. Hamilton is the wild card in the trade, which could/would tip the scales in Boston favour. Having said that, Burke did great to get Gardener whom I would gladly take over Hamilton.

          MY point is simple, the trade no longer appears as lopsided for Boston.

          • Loonie says:

            I agree with everything except the not lopsided nature of that trade. The Bruins had to trade Kessel when they did due to cap implications and a soured relationship with management and still got that haul for him.

            Kessel’s certainly been excellent but the Bruins got at least two building blocks for the next fifteen years.

          • ed says:

            Kessel is outplaying Hamilton and Seguin by a country mile in this series.

            I think Seguin can be had in a trade.

            They have stuck him on the wing and he looks miserable out there, and totally lost.

          • Luke says:

            Last year and the Year before (Stanley Cup year) Seguin looked awesome on the wing.

            I’d be shocked if Seguin (or Hamilton) could be had in a trade.

            Maybe Jarred Knight could be though…

    • Kooch7800 says:

      I am re-posting this from one of my earlier posts below:

      Here is something to chew on. 20 times in the history of the NHL teams have come back and won after being down 3 -1 in a series. Boston has had 2 of those in just under a decade….tonight could be 3

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • bel33 says:

      Yes… but for 9 glorious years I’ve been able to tolerate this time of year (as I live in Toronto)… even if the Habs haven’t done well in the playoffs or missed like last year.

      One radio personality actually refered to Reimer as “the best goalie in the world” to Elliot Friedman… I almost vomited in my mouth.

    • Loonie says:

      Nice to see somebody else recognize that Rask is much better than Reimer.

      His success defies every bit of goaltending logic. Deep in his net and loses track of the puck more than he sees it.

      Maybe that’s why they’ve been successful, he’s the exact opposite of what a competent team would want in their goaltender. Surely the Bruins keep shooting from awful angles thinking that he can’t see the bloody puck.

      • The Jackal says:

        Leafs have been lucky in their wins this series.
        That really is the factor.
        Bruins have dominated them every single game.
        The only offense the leafs produce is off the rush, which is dangerous and which is why they can still score. But the Bruins outchance them so hard it’s not even funny.

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  58. habstrinifan says:

    Please listen NOW to TSN690 re Price’s comments. Agree or disagree, it is myopic to simply dismiss the tone of the interview.
    Anyone with any concern for Carey will at least listen studiously to assure and hope that what you are hearing is simply a post series let down… and not a sign of a deeper despair.

    • ed says:

      he has just suffered an injury which ended his season. please consider how this would affect you and your mood if someone was interviewing you.

      would you be full of joy and life, or would you be sombre and a little down in the dumps?

      the injury, and the way his season and the team’s season ended, should all be taken into account when evaluating this interview.

      • habs-fan-84 says:

        Context, people should consider it first before jumping to conclusions.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Agree Ed, I am amazed at the reaction by folks, but I shouldn’t be surprised.

        • Luke says:

          Nothing surprises me anymore. It’s all instant, over analysis of everything without any sort of contemplation nowadays.
          It’s black or white… either he is the best or worst…

          On Fan590 this weekend they were talking about the closer for the Jays. (Can’t remember his name). The radio folks said that due to his season so far (10saves) he has proven he is a truly elite closer, but they weren’t ready to include him in the discussion of the top echeleon of closers…

          Elite but not in the Top?

          Same for Price. he can’t be good… he’s got to be great. and great is a comperable to Roy, Brodeur, Dryden.

      • habstrinifan says:

        If any friend of mine tells me that he feels he has to hide in his house as a hobbit in a hole for 4 or 5 mths (and that’s what he said).. I will have concern and be alert if he needs more help. That’s all I am saying. My posts tell you that I want the management to be aware and alert and take any action if necessary. Your posts tell me that you want management to laugh it off and treat it as run of the mill.

        I am gonna leave it at that.

        • Small_Town_Boy says:

          Price would not have this issuse in Fl, LA etc.

          Dat’s wha me tinks

        • ed says:

          Trini, have you ever suffered an athletic injury?

        • Luke says:

          If your friend has media following him around 24/7 taking photos and grinding every word he says into fine dust, all the while, kids and grown adults are squaking at him him for a photo or signature and he wants to hide in his house. You’d understand.
          If you friend is not under constant public pressure and wants to stay hidden, then you should have concern.

  59. Mavid says:

    Marc Bergevin one of the GM finalist of the year..cool

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=670474&cmpid=nhl-fb

  60. nbsjfan says:

    A note to Jack Todd

    You’re full of it sir.

    You talk about how Price is not happy, how he complains about the over the top scrutiny and how its a bad sign that he can’t even go to the grocery store.

    This type of article only perpetuates the very thing you’re trying to rail against. The team was just booted from the playoffs and you’re interviewing a guy who has not played well and has seen his team eliminated. He is going to be depressed and peeved. Silver linings? Forget about it. Every cloud is going to be black. He just wants to get this behind him and move on to summer and get some rest and rejuvenation and you come along and over analyze and tell us how dire things are with him. Gimmie a break!

    Why don’t you do what you say the fans aren’t and give the guy some distance. Let him deal with it instead of trying to psyco-analyze the feelings of an athlete so soon after he and his team were eliminated. Of course he’s ticked, of course he down but he’s a professional and he knew what playing goalie in Montreal was like when he signed that contract. He knew there’d be good days and bad days but at the end of the day he still signed a lengthy contract.

    One last thing, next time you write an article, add yourself to your “Zeros” list at the bottom because what you did was exactly what your hated PJ Stock does to PK Subban – you tried to make something out of nothing. You’re better than that, or at least you should be.

  61. SO today I move to my next customer.

    The kid wears Bruins colors, and i just designed 5 decals for the jersey…..Bruins 5 Leafs 1

    But really I don’t care, I’ll be watching the Caps vs Rags and hoping the Rags get knocked out!

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  62. FormalWare says:

    Does anyone else think we might be able to bundle our worst contract(s) (Kabs/DD) with some actual assets for someone else’s Even Worse contract (e.g. Shawn Horcoff – unless there’s an even worse bang/buck quotient I’m forgetting about) – and then use our amnesty buyout to maximum effect? We could clear even more than Kabs’ 4.25M cap hit, that way.


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  63. Not going to dwell on Carey Price much here.

    At no time did he say I want out.

    At no time did he say I can’t take it and

    At no time did he say Trade me.

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  64. Kooch7800 says:

    MB is a finalist for GM of the year…

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  65. punkster says:

    Does this read like a guy who is troubled, who wants out?

    “It’s a tough job, but it’s what I love doing.”

    “I honestly believe I can win a Stanley Cup,”

    “I just kinda learned to accept that. Just kinda let it roll off your shoulders because what are you going to do, you know? You’ve gotta roll with it.”

    “I go straight out of junior to here, it’s the only type of atmosphere I know so I learned to accept it.”

    Of the Canadiens, Price said, “we can be a competent group. We had a pretty successful season this year. We have a lot of good parts to this team and we have a lot of positives to look forward to.
    “The coach (Michel Therrien) made a lot of the right moves throughout the season, the GM (Marc Bergevin) brought in the right type of players that brought us along, and we had a breath of fresh air with the young Galleys (Brendan Gallagher and Alex Galchenyuk) coming in.
    “Overall, it was a really positive feeling this year. I need to get to another level, my game personally. Everybody could do that. That’s what winning teams do in the playoffs — they find another level.”

    ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      It can be tough to read between the lines. One reporter will spin certain comments one way to support his story and another will use different comments and spin them the other way.

      The only people who really know what Carey Price is thinking are Price himself and the teammates he’s close with, maybe the coaching staff and the general manager. And his family of course.

      ****************
      “It’s frightening to contemplate how this undersized team would fare in a seven-game series against St. Louis, L.A. or Chicago..”

      –Mike Boone

      • punkster says:

        True…and Todd seems to have an agenda by cherry picking one quote and spinning an article or doom and gloom…while I cherry picked 5 quotes (one long one there) from the same article to show that things actually look pretty positive.

        ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

    • RiverviewCanadien says:

      But does this read like a guy that is confident he can?

      “I honestly believe I can win a Stanley Cup,” he said. “I think I have the ability and the mentality to do that. In order to do that, I need to reach another level, so I’m going to have to figure out what I need to do to get to that level.”

      I want to stay away from this argument, but I have to say I am a little concerned that Carey only “thinks” he has what it takes but has no idea what to do to elevate his game. Maybe a new coach is the answer.

      When Price is on his game…he is BRILLIANT.

      • Lafrich says:

        When ANY SINGLE GOALIE in the NHL is on that goalie is brilliant too. Price is just not as good as people think.

      • punkster says:

        Well yes it does sound like he is confident in his abilities…he thinks he can, he knows he has to reach another level, he’s going to figure out how…pretty good mindset for a young guy.

        ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

    • showey47 says:

      He doesn’t want out,he just painted a picture for the fans and media what its like to be a hockey player in montreal.He is far from the first to make a comment like this and will be far from the last.

  66. The Dude says:

    The Carey Price and can’t go shopping statement is pretty well what I figured what was going on in his head. Either get this guy outta town or get him a full time shrink cus right now he’s a ‘BASKET WEAVER’ . Again ,he should have my life and my bank account …

  67. habsfan0 says:

    Tonight’s Game 7 between Boston & Toronto is a tossup.
    Boston is a team that appears to be skating on fumes,as the condensed schedule they were forced to play over the last few weeks appears to be taking its toll.

    The Leafs,on the other hand,have already won 2 games in Boston this series,at a venue which,prior to these playoffs,they had all sorts of difficulties competing in. However, the Leafs have a mountain of history on their side where they’ve let their fans down, regardless of the circumstances.

    I hate the Bruins,but I absolutely loathe the Laffs.

    Boston 4 Toronto 2.

  68. Sportfan says:

    MB is up for GM of the year, that means MT has to be up for Jack Adams right?

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    • habsfan0 says:

      Not necessarily.
      The Habs late season collapse will be taken into account by voters.
      If that hadn’t happened, MT would be a shoo in.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Just read that. Can’t say I really agree with that one. Prust was really the only player he brought in that had an impact. Armstrong…meh, Boulion was ok but nothing that special. Jake Allen would have been better.

      Also not a fan of resigning DD and Boulion so early. I think DD could have been had cheaper considering how he played the second half and playoffs and Boulion I wouldn’t have resigned at all

      MT was brought in to change the culture and did

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  69. Where can I listen or watch Marc Bergervein’s news conference in English?


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