Bergevin finalist for NHL’s GM of the Year Award; Subban joins Team Canada

Canadiens GM Marc Bergevin held his end-of-season press conference Monday in Brossard after the NHL announced that he is a finalist for the 2013 General Manager of the Year Award along with Bob Murray of the Anaheim Ducks and Ray Shero of the Pittsburgh Penguins. The award is voted on by the 30 NHL GMs and a panel of NHL executives and members of the print and broadcast media.

It was also announced on Monday that Canadiens defenceman P.K. Subban will join Team Canada for the remainder of the World Hockey Championship in Stockholm and will join the squad in time for Thursday’s quarterfinal game.

While the bulk of the Canadiens players are signed for next season, Bergevin will have decisions to make this offseason on a number of restricted and unrestricted free agents.

The GM’s first order of business will be dealing with Tomas Kaberle, who has one year remaining on a contract the Canadiens acquired from the Carolina Hurricanes. Bergevin is expected to save $4.25 million in cap space by using his second amnesty buyout on Kaberle. He used the first one before this season started on Scott Gomez.

Yannick Weber will be a restricted free agent in July. Jeff Halpern, who has changed addresses five times since 2010, would like to stay in Montreal. Fourth-liner Colby Armstrong is also hoping to stay.

There will be at least one spot available on the top two lines because unrestricted free agent Michael Ryder is likely on his way out of town.

(Photo by John Kenney/The Gazette)

Who stays and who goes? by Pat Hickey

Injury report: fascinating and squeamish, by Pat Hickey

Price faces the bright lights again, by Dave Stubbs

Price’s comments should set off alarms, by Jack Todd

Eller has no memory of check, by Brenda Branswell

Bounced Habs go home to heal, by Pat Hickey

Comments from Canadiens’ locker room

Photo gallery of Habs clearing out lockers

Emmy winner Pierre McGuire weighs in on Habs, by Stu Cowan

Video: Lars Eller speaks to media

1,144 Comments

  1. Sportfan says:

    One and a Half Hours left before MB news conference!

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  2. HABSsince92 says:

    I’m a big Price fan/supporter/whatever you want to call it , I’ve met him a few times and he seems like a real honest, down to earth guy. With that being said in his short 5 year career he’s been an average to above-average regular season goalie and a below average playoff goalie. In order to become elite and be in the “top 5″ conversation he needs to be consistently playing above-average to great in the regular season and start winning some playoff games.

    Do I believe that he can lead this team to Stanley Cup Championships? Yes because of his exp. and age. The best part is that he is only 25/26 and he has all of this experience already. He will be just starting to hit his prime in the next year / season or so basically the end of 2013/14, 2014/15.

    __________________________________________________

    PK please sign.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Well said. It didn’t leave me with a great feeling with his comments as you want your goalie to exude confidence but he does need to take his game to the next level and I was hoping from the start he had that it would be this year.

      If MB addresses some of our D problems and he still struggles it won’t be good.

      Carey was not good in the playoffs and not all of it was defense but this team was so fragile that when a bad goal when it the team shut down and Anderson shut the door

      The islanders had bad goaltending against the pens and still managed to come close. That speaks volumes.

      Hopefully next year we will have stronger D.

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Lafleurguy says:

        Henry Lundqvist is demonstrating how to step up your game in the playoffs, when you are an elite goalie. Mikka Kiprusoff has had poor stats for several seasons and the Flames have missed the playoffs for something like five years, but people still think of him as the superb goalie in the seven-game SC final of 2004

        “May you live in interesting times.”

      • Small_Town_Boy says:

        “The islanders had bad goaltending against the pens and still managed to come close”.

        Yeah but they could score goals!

        Dat’s wha me tinks

      • HABSsince92 says:

        Thanks for the compliment………I agree with you too if MB can get 1 or 2 big dmen this Summer to clear the net or just to block shots (a la Hal Gill) I think that will help Price, and Budaj for that matter, next season.

        __________________________________________________

        PK please sign.

  3. Loonie says:

    So Jack Todd and paranoid fans think Carey Price wants out of Montreal. Makes you wonder why he didn’t want to leave Montreal after losing his starting job to Jaroslav Halak a few years ago. Makes you wonder why he didn’t want to leave Montreal when the fans booed him mercilessly following a couple of pre-season games. Makes you wonder why he signed a six year contract with the team.

    If he can’t go out to a grocery store because of his celebrity he isn’t the first player and won’t be the last.

    This is part of the maturation process with a player, not focusing or more to the point caring what people outside of the organization think or say, thinking only about his game and the team in general.

    People look for fault in every player in their favourite organization because they want perfection from all of them. The analysis is magnified with the starting goaltender because it’s Montreal.

    My opinion is that you go with Price until he’s thirty years old. If at that point he hasn’t been able to put together stellar back to back seasons you entertain moving him.

    But what does moving him mean? I think it means that this organization will have to rethink how it brings goaltenders along. Price is the most even keeled goalie this team’s had since Ken Dryden. I say that because if Price can’t shrug off the scrutiny that comes with playing goal for the Habs nobody can over a long period. Sure you could add a guy who could do it successfully for a couple of seasons but you won’t find one that can for an extended period of time. If Price doesn’t work out I think the team will have to recycle veteran goalies as a result.

    • Cal says:

      Price needs 3 more years? How many teams give their goalies 10 years in the NHL to “develop”?
      I don’t care if he’s even-keeled. He’s in Montreal to stop pucks. His numbers this year were sh-t for a goalie paid like him. Price, simply, has to be better.
      If he’s not, his contract is as trade-able as Luongo’s.

      • Luke says:

        Chicago, Colorado & Florida didn’t give Craig Anderson the time. Turns out he needed it.

      • Loonie says:

        The three years isn’t for Price Cal, it’s for the organization. If you think that Price doesn’t have the talent to realize some great potential you’re either down in the dumps about this season or upset with his poor season.

        That’s a different debate entirely. If you’d like we can discuss the kind of defensemen that stand in front of elite goaltenders.

        • Cal says:

          I didn’t know Bobrovsky in Columbus has “elite” D. Reimer has a better goals against with Phaneuf in front of him.
          After all these years, I’m basically tired of all the excuses made for Price. He’s signed the big contract. He should play like it.
          Potential, schmotential.

          • Loonie says:

            How often do you see Leafs’ defensemen watch opposing forwards attack rebounds unmolested?

            The Leafs are playing one defenseman under 6’1.

            Columbus?

            Jack Johnson, Fedor Tyutin, Adrian Aucoin, James Wisniewski, Nikita Nikitin and Tim Erixon.

            One defenseman under 6’2 and that’s Wisniewski who we all know is tough as nails.

            Bobrovsky played this way in one half season by the way.

            There’s a correlation between excellent goaltending and excellent defensive play in front of it.

            Diaz, Markov, Gorges, Bouillon all with the Habs regularly in front of Price. Only one of them is over 6’0 and that’s Gorges who is probably only over 6’0 on skates.

            Size is an issue on defense for this team.

        • Habfan17 says:

          I agree sometimes teams give up too quickly on players. There is a big difference between Anderson and Price. Price came in as a first round pick with huge accomplishments before being drafted and then after. Anderson did not and wasn’t drafted until 73 overall in the 3rd round. I don’t think you can say there is less pressure in Chicago than Montreal. Colorado was used to winning and being a contender too. Anderson kept the Sens in contention for the playoffs while missing Spezza, Karlsson and Cowen and plenty of AHL callups and rookies in front of him. The point is Price is supposed to be a thoroughbred and if I may be so bold, I think what the fans want, especially with his new contract is something closer to playing at a level at least at 90% of what Anderson did. Montreal had a more experienced team in front of him and a solid system. He needs to play better and not when he is 30! I am sure his agent didn’t argue that the Habs should pay price the salary they got and said, oh but he won’t play up to his salary until he is 30. I am positive that isn’t what Bergevin expects either

          Habfan17

      • KenD29 says:

        and the forwards were paid to put the puck in the opposition’s net and the defence were paid to clear out the crease and prevent quality shots. This did not happen against the Sens. They all have to be better, including MB in getting some grittier players and MT using his bench a little better instead of relying on vets who simply did not get it done.

        All About Work Ethic

    • Luke says:

      I agree. If Price can’t do it, get ready for the Belfour/Joseph revolving door of old goalies, past their primes, who hang around for 2-3 years at a time…

      I think the Price comment about the grocery store is more about a guy who is getting a bit older/more mature and looking for a bit of stability/normalcy. Things that he used to brush completely aside, like the non-stop attention, now grate on him a bit. He’s not saying he wants out, he’s saying “I’ve done this of 6 years, wouldn’t it be nice if i could have a coffee w/o it being a spectical.”

      It’s funny, now that I think of it, there is such a hue and cry for these young players to mature as soon as they become professionals, yet a good number of the people who single them out in public (be it for cheering or chirping) are wll past their formative years and should have matured long ago…

      • Habfan17 says:

        I would argue that if he is maturing, he doesn’t make those comments and he recognizes that this is what it is to be star on a pro team. I think some of the other past or current stars needs to help him find a way to work it out.

        Habfan17

    • Lafleurguy says:

      T, thinking about the teams with the worst goaltending quandaries, Phillie, T.Bay, Panthers, the post-Patrick Avalanche, and the historical example of a Senators squad unable to win it all with Alfredsson, Hossa/Heatley, Havlat, Chara/Redden, Phillips, Lalime, I agree with you that Carey can be part of a winner but with an expiry date. The rest of the team just wasn’t strong enough to advance more than one or two rounds.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • habstrinifan says:

      I dont see how you can put down as ‘paranoid fans’ those (and I am leaning that way) who infer from Price’s interview that he may not be 100% enamoured with playing out his career in Mtl.

      I am disappointed in your eveness on this one!

      • Loonie says:

        I don’t see how people can jump to the conclusion that an injured and recently eliminated goaltender wants out of the organization he just committed six years to.

        See how this works? All things being equal I think that those jumping to say he wants out are being slightly more presumptuous than those who are being a little more forgiving.

  4. habs-fan-84 says:

    Credit where credit is due.

    The Leafs have played very well. Reimer has been fantastic (his wife isn’t too shabby either ;))

    Living in the GTA, I originally wanted the Bruins to win…but after watching the series so far it would be great to see the Bruins lose at home in game 7….especially after they took a strangle hold in the series like they did.

    Gardiner has been very impressive as well and to be honest it’s nice to see Kessel do what he has…through no fault of his own he’s been given the short end of the stick by the Toronto media for years.

    • Chris says:

      Kessel takes a lot of grief for a guy who has been one of the most consistent snipers of the past 5 years. He’s not a superstar, but he’s a very good player who battles droughts. Kessel ended up with 20 goals and 52 points in 48 games despite starting the year in a horrendous scoring funk (0 goals, 6 points in his first 10 games).

      • ebk says:

        he’s awful close to a superstar in today’s NHL.

        • Chris says:

          He can play on my team any day, even with his somewhat aloof attitude to the media.

          Kessel is good enough that the Bruins have gone out of their way to match Chara against him. I think that that is a pretty strong endorsement of the guy that the Bruins fear him enough to ALWAYS try go get their superstar stopper out there when Kessel is on the ice.

  5. Ian Cobb says:

    Gerald!
    I have to moderate everyone’s comments on here, and I am a very slow reader my friend. But from now on you get an automatic pass, as do I.!!

    I have no idea why it appears!!

  6. Lafleurguy says:

    Carey Price hails from the metropolis of Anahim Lake, British Columbia. I bet it’s super frustrating to find it so hard to strike up a good conversation about calf-roping in places like Chez Paree.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  7. Ian Cobb says:

    As long as Bergevin does not sign players for more than 3 years!
    No more of these huge long term contracts that we carry, even when the player does not contribute being on the roster.

    Gomez, Kaberle, Gorges, DD, and more. Pay them for how they are playing, not what they have done in the past.!

    • Mattyleg says:

      What if a player that we really want desires a longer contract?
      Just say no?

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Ian Cobb says:

        Yes! If they truly want to play here for us, they will put out 100%, if they are slackers after signing long term, we are stuck!

        • ont fan says:

          I don’t get the slacker thing. So Perry doesn’t do well in the playoffs with a long contract and Ryan is no better without. If you get a longer contract you don’t care? These are top athletes, that have suceeded their whole lives. Like a Price, they can’t believe what the heck has gone wrong. I don’t think great players whose game have gone into the dumper are not more disturbed by it than we the fans. Do you think the Blue jays or Mike Weir are thinking they have it made financially. They want their game back.

      • KenD29 says:

        try offering a few more dollars not longer term.

        All About Work Ethic

    • The Dude says:

      Ian ,right now if MB gave Subban an extension like $25 mill for 4 more year ,it would be just fine by me!

  8. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Apparently, the Leafs won the cup last night. No bias at the CBC. “We will win tonight.” – Don Cherry. Hewson was almost coming in his pants and TSN was doing back flips this morning. At best, they are neutral with the Habs but how can anyone argue that they are not Leaf obsessed? I can’t believe I’m pulling for the Bruins. That’s probably why they haven’t ended this series. Heh.

    There is no crying in baseball, “i” in team or “chuck” in Galchenyuk.

    • Luke says:

      With both team’s diving, this series between the anthem-booers and the fan-assaulters is sure taking a lot of the ammo away their fans taunt Habs fans with.

    • Loonie says:

      The Leafs grew up a lot in their game four loss. There are games that can determine the development or upward or downward trajectory of the group and that was one of them.

      Like the pitcher in baseball who throws a one hitter and loses 1-0.
      The quarterback who goes 40-45 for 400 yards and 3 touchdowns and loses 24-21.

      Some playoff losses can show a group what it takes to become a very good team.

      The Leafs have earned what they’ve achieved in their comeback.

      And having said all of that the late goal by Lucic will probably ignite Boston and push them to a game seven victory.

      :)

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Gardener is playing incredible for the Leafs, and a guy who isn’t getting breaks offensively, Grabovski, is playing very well defensively. His icing faux pas aside, he has done an excellent job.

        It is amazing how little the Marchand/Seguin/Bergeron line is doing.

      • ont fan says:

        No question about how a loss can make you better down the road. A lucky bounce or call after that just keeps building the confidence. Underdogs start to believe they can’t lose. Leafs, Wings and Rangers seem to be on a roll at the right time.

    • mrhabby says:

      i know its weird but…its 9 years of coming out. The organization has been a joke for so long but not any longer at least not for this year.

  9. Kooch7800 says:

    Hats off to Detroit beating the Ducks. I didn’t see that one coming.

    Should be good hockey with them vs the hawks

    “Keep your stick on the Ice”

  10. mrhabby says:

    So much talk about Price. Last time I looked when teams win, most of the players are very happy if not estatic. How can he not be upset with the way the team imploded. The privacy thing just comes with playing in Canada. All the teams players have this same issue not just in Montreal.

  11. Maritime Ron says:

    Here’s hoping GM Bergevin and his team are careful moving forward.

    As they did with Prust last summer, they should be camping out at either Rub Scuderi or Robyn Regehr’s home and convince them to sign here.
    Those 2 will have multiple options, and Montreal does have its drawbacks, yet that would be the coup of the summer.
    Wondering if they would even consider Montreal?

    Both are left hand shots and strong, shut down Dmen that can clear a crease.
    An addition of one of them playing with P.K. would then give us options to move some other Dmen for up front needs.

    In addition, whether some want or not, we need 1-2 other tough guys like a Patrick Bordeleau.
    Both Bouillon and Prust concur.

    We need to make sure that when a Colton Orr runs around, or a Phaneuf tries to decapitate Gallagher as he did this year, they will have to answer the bell.
    Same goes with the Boston guys – Ottawa-Buffalo-the Philly guys – and now the Columbus guys joining the Conference.
    We cannot leave that ALL on Prust.

    • mrhabby says:

      Here , Here. We play how many games against tougher biggers teams in the North East starting next year in a reg 82 game season. Bergevin at a minimum needs to add a few muscle heads to counter the Orrs of the world.

    • Habfan17 says:

      I like Regher, but I think in going with a core that will compete for years to come, I would rather they trade Diaz to the Sharks for Petrecki. He is also a lefty, the same age as Subban, 6’3 230 lbs and mean. San Jose has plenty of big defenceman in their system not so many offensive guys and Boyle is getting up thereI do agree they need some grit up front. I would also like to see them trade a Bournival or Holland to Chicago for Beach. He is also 6’3 and is more than just an enforcer. 52 goals, 86 points and 168 pims his last year in Junior and starting to get better in the AHL now. Chicago has depth on the left side and the Habs have depth on the right. This would add two of the type of players the Habs need and they would fit with the young core

      Habfan17

      • Maritime Ron says:

        Hi
        I don’t know the fella you mention, but this is what I found. Do you have other info?

        ” Nick Petrecki has passed through waivers and has been sent to the minors.Petrecki is on a two-way deal so sending the 23-year-old down to Worcester of the AHL will save the Sharks money. He has been a disappointment since being drafted in the first round, 28th overall in the 2007 Draft when the Sharks loved his hard hitting and heavy shot from the point.

    • adamkennelly says:

      I find it very telling that Prust and Bouillon are both saying this team needs more toughness – its so obvious – and hearing from two of the guys who have to deal with crap from other teams – get them some freakin help MB.

      I feel that MB passing on Kassian was a huge mistake- considering he was on waivers at zero cost – but still should be relatively easy to fix in the off season.

      1 definitive tough guy
      1 or 2 edgy forwards to replace some of the pillows we have out there (Clarkson?)
      1 big tough D-man to help Emelin

      • Luke says:

        I don’t find it very telling at all.

        I’m not sure why people seem to think that it’s a great secret that they need to get tougher. Everyone knows it. It takes time.

        Your empassioned plea to get them some “freaklin’ help MB” can’t start to happen for about 6 weeks or so. Then those players you mention have to actually choose to come to Montreal. If Clarkson doesn’t want to play here, then he won’t, and nothing MB can do will change that.

        I agree with you mostly, except for the ‘tough guy’, assuming you mean specifically a goon becaue you mentioned Kassian.

        2-3 edgy forwards, not 1 goon and 1-2 edgy forwards for me please. If the guy can’t play 8-10minutes he’s not welcome. Look at the success the Leafs are having with McLaren in the Press Box. Next guy out of that lineup is Orr.

        • adamkennelly says:

          a tough guy not playing in the playoffs is nothing new. having one for the regular season is key – and if you find the right one – they can skate a few games in the post season.

          Kassian didn’t look that out of place when he played vs. Habs.

          Habs play Leafs, Ottawa, Bruins, etc a lot – we need a full fledged fighter for next year – cheap, easy and the right thing to do.

          do you think we had so many top contributors that we can’t afford a spot for someone who can deal w/ Orr when he smacks around half our team on 1 shift.

          • Luke says:

            Not a 4 minute goon.
            A guy like Shawn Thornton, sure. But I’d rather have a 5’5″ puck wizard who can dangle in a shootout then a 6’4″ plug who can’t carry the puck.
            There’s a reason guys like McLaren and Kassian were on waivers…

      • Maritime Ron says:

        I may be wrong, but I believe Ottawa scooped him before Montreal ever had a chance for the claim as Montreal was higher in the standings and claims start from the bottom up.

  12. HabinBurlington says:

    Does everyone get the “your comment is awaiting moderation” message when they post these days?

  13. Phil C says:

    I personally find the Price comments very concerning when you combine it with how he played in the last two months of the season. He was clearly not playing to his ability. I assumed it was due to injury, but what if it was because he is not happy?

    When David Duval won the British Open, he had fulfilled a lifetime goal and dream. When he woke up the next morning and realized that reaching his goal didn’t make him as happy as he thought it would, his life went off the rails for a few years and he has never gotten his golf game back.

    Now I’m not saying that Price is like Duval, it’s just a comparison to illustrate that if an elite athlete is not happy, it’s very unlikely he will continue to be elite.

    On the flip side, he had just injured his knee and got knocked out of the playoffs, so it is understandable that his mood was a little morose, so we may be reading too much into it.

    But it’s the comments plus the poor play that have me concerned. I hope he can find a way to be happier in Montreal for his sake, and I hope team does everything it can to help him.

    • Cal says:

      Sounds like Duval confused the goal with the journey. Life’s all about the journey, imo.

    • Landof10000lakesHab says:

      It has been well documented that Duval’s issues were as a result of his decision to lose body fat and improve muscle tone. Whereas this strategy works for most and although he looked great afterwards, his game and #1 ranking were never more. Similar happened to Johnny Miller in the mid 70’s. Important to have the correct training instructor and program – no doubt.

      CP will be a Hab for the duration of his contract and I am positive that he will, for the most part, be successful throughout.

      • Phil C says:

        Yes, same thing happened to Carl Pettersson, so he gained the weight back.

        Some blame Duval’s ridiculously strong grip as a flaw that relies on perfect timing and therefore would not be reliable over the long haul.

  14. HabFanSince72 says:

    I briefly flipped over to CBC this weekend to catch one of the games in progress (forget which one).

    It wasn’t one of the games, it was a rerun of that Don Cherry biopic.

    Ten seconds of that was enough to convince me that it is the worst TV movie ever made.

    This got me wondering – is there anything the CBC makes that gets exported to other countries?

  15. Habfan17 says:

    A few draft possibilities if the Habs would be fortunate to have them available when they pick

    Torn between Kerby Rychel and Samuel Morin in the first round.
    Rasmus Ristolainen would also be a solid pick up. I know Morin and Ristolainen are dmen, but they bring size and grit and you can never have too many good defence in the system and they could in time trade one or two to fill a hole.
    In the second round, I am hoping Anthomy Mantha drops down. Then Frederik Gauthier, Jacob De La Rose, and J.T. Compher

    Habfan17

  16. HabinBurlington says:

    Looks like another Price Centric day ahead on HI/O…… I am sure the posts will continue to grow in their creativity.

  17. Hobie Hansen says:

    I think 90% of HIO posters and Gazette readers all realize that Jack Todd loves to say controversial s*&t to get people talking about his columns.

    However, those comments in his article, about Price never leaving his home and wishing he could be more anonymous are pretty alarming and hard to dispute.

    I love Price and the last thing I want is for the Canadiens to fumble around and search for a goaltender for the next five years. But man, if the guy isn’t happy there’s a problem.

    Maybe it’s time to pickup the phone and call St. Louis and ask what they’d like for Halak? Trade Price to SJ for a 1st rounder and a good player and send something to St. Louis for Halak?

    I’m hoping this blows over and Price is rejuvenated by September but those comments sure give everyone something to think about over the summer?

    ****************
    “It’s frightening to contemplate how this undersized team would fare in a seven-game series against St. Louis, L.A. or Chicago..”

    –Mike Boone

  18. commandant says:

    Shea Theodore of Seattle checks in at #33

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/05/13/shea-theodore-2013-nhl-draft-player-profile-33/

    Go Habs Go!
    Your 2013 NHL Draft Headquarters, Now Open.
    http://lastwordonsports.com/

  19. Lafleurguy says:

    Very believeable, that if the season had gone 82 games, that a below-eighth finish could have resulted. The team could out-duel the Southeast teams and the Rangers, but at no point did it show clear superiority to Northeast and Atlantic division opponents except for the boring efforts against the Rangers. The dominant win over the Sabres that clinched a playoff berth for the team was not a “measuring-stick” game given how dis-spirited the Sabres were. Since then, the Habs’ best game was the 3-2 OT loss in game 4 of the playoffs. Incredibly biased officiating caused that result, but a win then would have only delayed the inevitable exit from the playoffs. Several other teams just appeared too strong in their playoff games. Excessive attention to Carey Price may have distracted from the team’s second biggest deficiency which a precarious defence. By the way, Price is not the other defiency, the team’s lack of ability to physically compete in the defensive zone is. We have some large forwards, but only Rene Bourque qualifies as gritty and you have to look at smallish Prust, and more-smallish Gallagher to complete a too short-a-list of gritty forwards. Emelin throws impressive hits, but it has a much lesser impact the the dirty-play that the league has sanctioned. The Bruins D are probablly the best at cross-checking at every opportuinity. When Boychuk raked his stick-blade across a prone little guy, Desharnais, and while not a D, when Marchand swung his stick-blade inches from a prone Prust’s face in full view of officials and no penalties are given, you have what you have, fodder for bully tactics.

    Price is metaphorically like a Formula One race-car. He belongs but is like the ones who won’t reach the podium. There is no shame in that, as he is just as good as recent Stanley Cup champs Antti Niemi, Marc-Andre Fleury, Cam Ward, Jean-Sebastian Giguere, and Chris Osgood.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Morning Buddy! HardHabits talked about the “what if it was an 82 game season” a couple days ago and he wondered if we would have been better off falling out of the playoffs for draft position. It’s an interesting question but what a fun regular season it was.

      • Lafleurguy says:

        J, imagine the hypothetical proposal to tank! I would have never guessed. May I say, that last year’s draft, and Gallagher’s unexpected superlative play have stirred up great excitement, the team is top 15, but not really top 5 as their regular season points total suggested. Therefore, I conclude that having productive drafts to bring about consistent winning is a process that spans a few years and therefore incompatible with the immediate gratification that fans in general crave.

        “May you live in interesting times.”

        • Fransaskois says:

          Though I do believe that there’s a well-versed myth surrounding the superiority of Western Conference teams, they are generally bigger and play a more pro-grind style. The fact that we didn’t play a game against a Western opponent may attribute to our seemingly unfounded success, in my opinion that is. Glad we had a good year but picking up another third overall pick would have been quite nice.

  20. ed says:

    Subban is off to the World Hockey Championships – as per Stubbs twitter – and I am very proud of that young man, indeed.

    There was a long line of Subban critics, some of them with a an audience of millions like Don Cherry, and others who simply posted here as Habs fans.

    Subban has proven all of them wrong, of course.

    For the people who know him, they know he is a tireless worker, a young man of integrity, and a teammate who will do anything it takes to help his team win.

    I am a huge Subban supporter.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Ed, PK was the best player on the ice most nights. What a wonderful athlete. What I enjoy the most is he “brings” it every night. Anybody remember a game, a period, or a shift he took off? Nope, me neither. He is a once in a decade type player. Just a joy.

      • ed says:

        I believe he will establish himself as a 15+ year star in this league, and this past season was only the beginning of that run.

        I believe he will be a Hall of Fame player. I know that’s a big statement to make, but barring injury that’s how good he will be.

        I have felt that way since the 1st time I saw him play at the World Junior Championships.

    • Lafleurguy says:

      Very telling that the one comparative example of Don Cherry boasting that he has been a strong supporter of Nazim Kadri from early on, and the relative slience he has now about P.K.’s respected status. Cherry probably never paid Hall-of-Famer Borje Salming one notable compliment in their entire careers after calling no. 21 a “chicken S_ede” early on. The Don can klux on and on because of people’s poor memories.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

    • Les Canayens says:

      If any of those all stars gives him a suicide pass I hope he’ll yell at them.

  21. JF says:

    The only issue I have with Todd’s article is his suggestion that Price wants to leave Montreal. I don’t get this impression from Price’s comments at all. And I think it’s fair to point out, as Chris does down below, that the media scrutiny on Price is no worse than that faced by Roberto Luongo, for example. But it’s clear that Bergevin needs to meet with Price and find out what the organization can do to help him have more success.

    One step might be to think about getting him a new goaltending coach. Not that I have any criticisms of Pierre Groulx, and I know Price enjoys working with him. But a different pair of eyes might see things in Price’s game that Groulx no longer sees simply because they’ve worked together so long. Sometimes a new perspective, a slight change of focus, can make a big difference. I know it often works for tennis players.

    A few weeks ago, when Price’s struggles were at their height, Patrick Roy was talking about his game on L’Antichambre. He suggested a couple of small technical changes he’d like to see Price make. I forget what these were, but Roy’s remarks show that input from someone else could at least raise questions for Price.

    What is clear is that Price’s game, for no apparent reason, completely fell apart late in the season. He seemed to lose his confidence and focus. I know the disarray of the defence after the injury to Emelin was a large factor, but at the same time, Price was giving up goals that no NHL goaltender, whatever the state of his defence, gives up unless he’s completely off his game. Price and those working with him need to figure out why this happened and how to prevent it in future.

    • Small_Town_Boy says:

      You don’t get this impression from Price’s comments at all. Really?

      “I don’t even go to the grocery store anymore. I’m like a hobbit in a hole. I just don’t do anything anymore.”

      Does Price seem happy to you from the above comments he made?

      If a player is not happy in a city anymore it is a hint & a half he needs to move on!

      Dat’s wha me tinks

      • habs-fan-84 says:

        Sounds to me like he’s telling it like it is.

        Price is a celebrity in Montreal, no different than a celebrity in LA. He’s simply telling it like it is, he can’t he really go out and do anything like a normal person. That’s not a complaint, it’s just reality.

      • JF says:

        The impression I got is that Price wants to succeed and believes he has the physical tools and the mental stamina to do so. He says he needs to work on taking his game to a new level.

        I think that if he left Montreal at this point, he would feel that he had allowed the media scrutiny and the pressure to drive him away. In the long term, I don’t think this feeling would help him succeed. He would know that whatever success he achieved elsewhere, he had failed in Montreal. But you’re certainly right that he doesn’t sound happy; at the same time, he seems to accept that being under the microscope is a reality for a pro athlete of his stature in a city like Montreal.

    • Habfan17 says:

      I don’t like this excuse that Emelin got hurt and the defence fell apart etc. Teams should be able to keep on going with one defenceman down. This just shows that Bergevin and his group still have some work to do building depth and the system they play to overcome injuries. Ottawa lost both Cowan and Karlsson and still kept on going. Our Habs had one defenceman out and let it put them off. Not good. They still had plenty of experience, but no depth defenceman to fill Emelin’s role. I am confident that Bergevin will make the right changes.

      Habfan17

  22. Habfan10912 says:

    Good morning all. Some interesting thoughts this morning about what the team needs to do moving forward. Seems we are all just about in agreement that size and toughness should be at the top of the list.
    Not to get myself pulled into the Price debate, I see some like to mention how teams have won a Cup with an average goaltender. My initial thought was to poo poo this as an outlier so I decided to take a look at the last 10 years of cup winning goaltenders.

    2003 – NJ – Brodeur
    2004 – TB – Khabibulin
    2005 – Cancelled The beginning of the Bettman Jacobs takeover
    2006 – Carolina – Cam Ward
    2007 – Anaheim Ducks – Giguire
    2008 – Detroit – Osgood/Hasek
    2009 – Pittsburgh – Fleury
    2010 – Chicago – Niemi
    2011 – Boston – Tim Thomas
    2012 – LA Kings – Quick

    It appears pretty obvious to me from the above that although it is possible to win with an average goalie your odds increase drastically with a above to very good netminder. If you go back even further the names of cup winning goalies include a lot of Brodeur, Osgood, Belfour and Roy.
    I’m not on the Price stinks bandwagon by any imagination but as a Hab fan I sure as heck hope he develops into an good goalie. Our odds of winning a cup increase if he does.

    • Cal says:

      Hi Jim. I was looking at goalie stats for this season at NHL.com.
      Price is 10th in time played this season. In GAA, he is 29th. In save percentage he was 35th.
      All this on a team that finished 4th overall, despite the holes on D. How good would the Habs have been if Price played better? After 6 seasons of Price, I’m tired of waiting. He has to play to the ridiculous salary he’s collecting.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        Hi Cal. I feel the same. I think he regressed this season but I keep reminding myself that he’s 25. For me the jury is still out. He needs to get better. For our sake, I hope he does. If the organization has gotten this one wrong it’s a severe setback. As fans none of us should be rooting for that. CHeers.

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  24. Habfan17 says:

    @ Fransaskois
    Nice post, I am torn. My first thought too is to move out the high profile veterans now. Since many of them come off the books next season, it may be better getting young players and prospects, and perhaps a top 6 forward and crease clearing defenceman rather than have them walk for nothing.

    I for one would endure a season or two letting them develop.
    Rather than sign Clowe,who’s production is on the decline, I would rather Bergevin trade for and sign UFA’s such as Stalberg and Iginla. Even at his age, he would have been tied with Pleks in scoring. I think he would be a great mentor for Patches and the rest of the young players.

    Boyle is getting older and San Jose has a lot of big tough defence in their system. I would move Diaz and Gorges to San Jose for Petrecki and 2nd round pick. Petrecki is big, 6’3″ 230 lbs, can play,has a mean streak, and is the same age as Subban. He shoots left would make a great partner for Subban, leaving Tinordi to play with Beaulieu, Emelin with Markov, Boullion/Pateryn. In a season or teo Dietz and Ellis can replace Emelin and Boullion.

    See if the Devils would want Gionta back, if not, see what they could get for him elsewhere.

    Trade Holland to Chicago for Beach. The Habs can afford to take the risk, they have a lot of right wingers in the system and Chicago has a lot of left wingers in their System. Beach can play centre and has size and sandpaper. His last year in junior he had 52 goals, 34 assists and 186 pims. He has had a few injuries but he is starting to round out. At the worst, he could be a 4th line left wing or centre, at best a 3rd line centre. He adds something the Habs sorely lack.

    Trade DD and Moen for whatever they can get.

    Patches, Pleks, Bourque
    Stalberg, Eller, Iginla
    Prust, Galchenyuk, Gallagher
    Beach, White, Kristo

    Markov, Emelin
    Petrecki, Subban
    Tinordi, Boullion
    Pateryn/Beaulieu

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    Habfan17

  25. HabinBurlington says:

    So the Bruins plane had issues last night, the team had to stay in Toronto overnight, while the Leafs did head down to Boston last night…

    Should be an exciting Game 7, Carlyle > Julien ?

  26. Small_Town_Boy says:

    I have to agree that Price does not seem happy in Montreal. As he told Dave: “That’s one thing I miss, just being anonymous,” he said. “It’s tough to do that here.”
    “I don’t even go to the grocery store anymore. I’m like a hobbit in a hole. I just don’t do anything anymore.”

    This cleary shows that Carey is not happy in Montreal. What more proof do we want? Carey is not going to come out and say he is not happy, he is not an idiot, no player will come out & say that.

    Dat’s wha me tinks

    • Habfan10912 says:

      I’ve heard similar things from players playing in other cities versus those playing in a Canadian City. It’s not Montreal inclusive. Even good US hockey markets like NY are different. Most players there can walk on the street unrecognized. Nashville, Dallas, Tampa Bay? No problem picking up some ground beef and soda from your local Stop and Shop there.
      I try not to read too much into that. I did notice the lack of enthusiasm for some players in the exit interview such as his and Gorges. When you compare it to PK and Gallagher’s interview it makes you wonder.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Going to the grocery store is over-rated.

  27. Maritime Ron says:

    We at HIO can debate the merits of adding or not adding more size/toughness – about the need to get bigger, yet perhaps Habs management should take into consideration what 2 of the top Habs warriors have to say about the subject:

    1) Francis Bouillon:
    « Personnellement, je pense que c’est important d’avoir des gros gars qui vont être là pour ça »

    « Toutes les équipes en ont. Quand tu joues contre les Maple Leafs, ils ont deux ou trois gars intimidants. Quand tu joues contre Boston, c’est la même chose. Je pense que l’important, c’est de regarder qui est dans ta division, qui tu vas affronter le plus souvent et t’ajuster en conséquence. On a très bien fait tout au long de la saison sans vraiment de gros joueur, mais quand tu arrives dans les séries, c’est important d’avoir ces gars-là.

    “Personally, I think it’s important to have big guys that will be there for that.
    “All teams have that. Look at the Maple Leafs. They have 2 or 3 intimidating guys. When you play against Boston, it’s the same thing.
    ” I think it’s important to look in your Division, who you are going to meet most often, and adjust accordingly
    ” We did very well during the season without a big guy, but when you reach the playoffs, it’s important to have these kind of players.

    2) Brandon Prust:
    ” Je ne m’opposerai jamais à davantage de robustesse et je serais bien d’accord si on trouvait un ou deux gars prêts à partager le travail, a plaidé Prust avec honnêteté. Par contre, j’adore l’équipe que nous formons et je ne crois pas que nous ayons besoin de changer radicalement notre formation. »

    I would never oppose adding more toughness and would be in agreement if we could find 2 or 3 guys to share the workload. On the other hand, I love this team and don’t believe we need a radical change to our roster.

    http://www.rds.ca/hockey/canadiens/le-ch-doit-il-prendre-du-poids-1.620473

  28. Dodger says:

    To Clay , Frank, etc…..Some people probably DO expect athletes and other celebrities to treat them like long lost kinfolk but that is not what Frank was saying. The Jagr story is also instructive….it reminds me of a story I read many. many years ago. It told of a blind boy, with his father, standing outside the Chicago Blackhawks dressing room as player after player just walked past……all except one. He walked over the blind boy and said..”my name is Bobby Hull, what’s yours?” Of course that was in the days prior to the era of entitled athlete and I also understand that there are those “fans” who try to accumulate autographs in order to sell them….but a real pro…a real gentleman surely can find time to at least give a kid a smile. I suspect playing goal for Montreal is a tough job…made even tougher by the way Price was rushed into No.1 status whether he deserved it at the time or not.

  29. ed says:

    It is obvious to everyone who reads Jack Todd that he has not liked Carey Price since day 1.

    Why the dislike for a stand up young man like Price, I wonder? Price is not a cheat, a thief, a lazy athlete who doesn’t work hard.

    So why the dislike?

    Is Todd jealous of Price’s talent, or his contract, or his lifestyle?
    Maybe.

    But there is a deeper cause I think.
    I think Todd sees an “opportunity” to build his own Jack Todd “brand” by bashing Carey Price at every opportunity.

    You see Carey Price, as the Montreal Canadiens’ goalie, is a target for Todd. Todd can use Price’s fame, Price’s status in this city, to build up his own Jack Todd “fame”, and Jack Todd “status”.

    Jack Todd thinks of himself as a liberal, fair minded, balanced, and honest journalist. He is none of the above.

    Todd is simply a self serving, opportunistic, marketeer, who has cleverly used Carey Price’s career (and others) to prop up his own Jack Todd “brand”.

    For the money they are paying Todd at the Gazette, we would expect a evenhanded and elite journalist. At the moment, we are getting neither.

    • Small_Town_Boy says:

      Jack Toad is a #$%^$%&$%*

      Dat’s wha me tinks

    • I read his work early on, and now I don’t care to. But he’s good at what he does otherwise he never would have lasted this long.

      I don’t know him personally but he must have had a hard life leaving his home, family and friends.

      I had a teacher in high school who was a draft dodger, he never fit into the community and people always talked about him behind his back. I liked the man because I felt sorry for him, and after my first tour in Croatia I came home and he wanted to know everything about what we did. He couldn’t believe that boys were able to do what we did, and I couldn’t believe that boys could do what he did.

      When I first started reading the Gazette I disagreed with almost everything Todd writes. So I just stopped.

      Ed, he’s paid to do a job, and judging by your last paragraph I am guessing he did it well in this article.

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    • Chris says:

      At some point, Montreal Canadiens fans, and particularly those that are Carey Price fans, need to realize that the Montreal Canadiens goaltender position isn’t as special as we make it out to be, at least not anymore.

      In the 1970’s, sure. But that was a dynasty team that was expected to win every season. But that hasn’t been the case for a couple of decades.

      James Reimer has had to endure a GM publicly questioning his ability to get the job done for his entire career. The entire fan base has been guilty of assuming he can’t get the job done despite no empirical evidence one way or the other. Yet we think Price is somewhat unique in having the worst job in hockey.

      Roberto Luongo just went through a hellish season. Not even winning an Olympic gold medal on home soil was enough to prevent him from being labelled as an overpaid choke artist who falters when the chips are down. Then he goes through the Schneider-Luongo mess, entirely due to the foibles of Mike Gillis, and people dissect his every start and his every misstep.

      Even Craig Anderson has had to shake the media and his own fan base. When he came in, he played reasonably well. But the whispers have been there, and in many quarters are still there. He’s lucky, he can’t keep this up, he’s 31 and has never won anything, yada yada yada.

      Being a goalie for any large-market team, especially in Canada, is a job with a lightning rod attached to it. It is the the nature of the beast.

      I think you are right in that some elements of the media have had an axe to grind with Carey Price. But truth be told, the Montreal Canadiens and Price himself have called some of that attention onto the kid. The annointing, the surly behaviour in 2009-10 (mock-cheering the crowd, shooting the puck at opposing players celebrating a goal, the locker room strife), etc. have all added up to a guy that makes an easy target.

      More importantly, discussions around Carey Price sell newspapers. I don’t get it personally…I find goaltender discussions in the modern NHL to be somewhat tedious and ultimately immaterial. I’ve expressed the opinion frequently, and I’ll restate it here: I honestly do not believe that the vast majority of NHL goaltenders are difference makers one way or the other. The fall-off between #1 and #25 simply isn’t that great. But they are lightning rods and Jack Todd has always known when he can key in on a lightning rod. His last whipping boy was Scott Gomez (although he came late to that party) and his dealings with Patrice Brisebois were far, far worse than anything Price has had to endure thus far.

      Todd (who is freelance now, by the way…he was let go by the Gazette as a full-time journalist in their restructuring three or four years ago) represents one element of the Habs fan base very well. He caters to that crowd that loves to poke at Price’s seeming weaknesses and his lack of success.

      Dave Stubbs represents the other side of the coin. Stubbs is a long-time goaltending aficionado, and he has always been totally respectful of the players. Stubbs often profiles the goaltenders, and he does an excellent job of showing the public just how hard their job is. If anything, his articles do sometimes avoid asking questions that might get the player’s back up, even if those questions are obvious ones. But in return, the players really seem to have a good rapport with Stubbs and he is often the only one who is able to get anything remotely introspective out of them.

      In terms of Todd’s present article, I don’t see anything particularly negative there. Price’s comments in the media scrum are worthy of a second look. If anything, I think that Todd has clearly laid the blame on a hockey-mad public that needs to let the players live their lives. I honestly don’t see much there to be upset with Todd about. His thoughts on that matter pretty much reflect my own. The team definitely needs to meet with Price, see where his head is at, and do what they need to do to help him achieve the success that his potential suggests is possible.

      • Habfan17 says:

        Very well said Kudos!! People also need to remember, it was Todd who was banished by Corey from covering the Habs because at the time, he was the only member of the media that called Cory ( the Teflon Man ), for all his big mistakes. Todd also refused to call the new ” Forum” the Bell centre, instead calling it the Keg. I was with him and still am. I know it is business but I miss the days of the Forum, the Garden, The Spectrum and the rest. Todd if anything, tries not to give his audience the sugar coated, protect the team at all costs type of reporting that some in the media are guilty of. How many of us hate watching the CBC and TSN broadcasts that are so blatantly pro Leafs. I don’t always agree with the RDS L’antichambre pnet, but at least they aren’t all going on like every Hab is a God!

        I miss Red Fischer, he had a way of telling the truth wthout having to resort to sensationalized journalism.

        Habfan17

      • mrhabby says:

        yes. good points on all.

      • kalevine says:

        I believe what you say about the impact of goaltenders in general, although the last few weeks I think our goalies let in an incredible nuimber of softies. But, that aside, doesn’t that imply the foolhardiness of
        1) drafting a goaltender high
        2) paying a goaltender as if he is a top forward

    • The Cat says:

      All good points, I believe hatred sells more than love. Myself, people think I hate Price, I dont really care, but it bugs me when Price supporters all say that Price ‘haters’ simply dont know hockey. Have the ‘haters’, not been more right than wrong about Price? How many more years before the chants of promise must ebb. Some teams are so good that they dont feel the need for a great goaltender, like Chicago, and they pay him accordingly. Price is paid like a difference-maker. If this team has to be great everywhere else for the goalie to be good, then theres a problem. Price has been handed everything really, and just like when a co-worker is subject to flagrant favouritism, it makes him hated by some. Its Gainey’s fault, not Price.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Maritime Ron says:

      Good Morning Ed

      It’s wonderful to have ‘choice’ in life.

      Personally, I gave up reading Todd a long time ago.
      I don’t know if his columns still have the juvenile ending of heroes and zeros, yet anyone holding grudges for a decade may well be served by seeking out professional medical help.
      That is unhealthy, and I do not need nor wish to be part of that or partake in his column online hits

      If I am looking for bombastic, magniloquent, sonorous, grandiloquent prose, there are several that do it much better than Todd.

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      Then why does Todd like Subban or Markov among many others?

      His dislike for Price is obvious as it is irritating but it was similar with Jacques Villeneuve years ago.

      I don´t know how much money they are paying Todd but people at least talk about him which isn´t a bad thing. Has anyone ever talked about Boone or Hickey (yes, that Fleury thing but anything else)?

      I know Boone is a good guy but as a writer Jack Todd is more talented than Boone and Hickey combined btw.

    • NoTinFoilCups says:

      Obvious he doesn’t like Price? How? He is making some goods points as far as I can see.

    • Habfan17 says:

      Not sure why you interpret Todd as bashing Price in this column. I don’t see that at all, He is simlly making an insightful interpretation of what Price said.

      Habfan17

      • kalevine says:

        he isn’t, he’s being very measured and sympathetic. It’s just he has a history of not liking Price, so people are understandably reading more into it. I like Todd because, agree or disagree, he doesn’t toe the party line AND he actually knows how to write

  30. HabFanSince72 says:

    The main reason hockey has turned into roller derby, and that injuring opponents is a rational strategy in the playoffs, is that Bruins’ owner Jeremy Jacobs runs the NHL.

    Just remember that if you want the Bruins to beat the Leafs.

    Remember Zdeno Chara’s hit on Max and his non-suspension by Jacobs’ lackeys.

    I’m happy for the Leafs and their fans. Hope they win tonight.

    • Clay says:

      Hear, hear.

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    • Dust says:

      Remember, while you cheer on the leafs tonight, Orr trying to take out Pleks knee with a charge and then sucker punching Bourque which is the most likely cause of his concussion this year.

    • ed says:

      cheering for the Leafs over the Bruins is like cheering for Don Cherry over the Klu Klux Klan.

    • Cal says:

      Having to listen to TSN’s orgasmic coverage makes me say, “Go Gooins.” The next round they’ll be booted. Laffs winning= months of TSN going on and on about how they are now contenders. Losing badly tonight will shut them up nicely.

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      • kalevine says:

        never trust the Booins to get booted in the next round. Remember 2011…they just got stronger and stronger with every series win.
        Anyways, I just chatted with an acquaintance who is a Bruins fan and he spouted the usual poor sportsmanship that we see from management down to the fans. When I suggested the Leafs were putting up a good fight, his response was “The Bruins are fighting themselves”. Never a nod to the opposition…they were like that all through their sickening Cup run too

        anyway, why shouldn’t the Leafs win a series. Fans have suffered a long time. The team is playing well. I somehow feel good for Brian Burke too, that he deserves some credit even after being fired. But then I live in Boston and don’t have to endure hockey night in canada. I have to deal with Jack Edwards, who is far worse

  31. Fransaskois says:

    I’m ready for the future.

    Price is a gem and still has a lot of room to grow. I’d like to have a big, fast, skilled team. I’d like to move high-profile veteran players now and not worry about the next one to two years.

    When you look at Galchenyuk and Eller’s progression, we can almost all agree that they will be decent top-6 players in 1-2 years. We don’t need to wait that long to have a competitive team, the sting of losing our current big names won’t be forever. Let’s finish the 3 year rebuild the right (or is it white? Come on Pang) way and move players now to capitalize on their future.

    We’ve just gotta quit messing around with developing our players and committing to the rebuild. Guess we’ll find out what the plans are soon enough. Here’s to hoping we’ve got the right guy in charge!

    • Habfan17 says:

      Nice post, I am torn. My first thought too is to move out the high profile veterans now. Since many of them come off the books next season, it may be better getting young players and prospects, and perhaps a top 6 forward and crease clearing defenceman rather than have them walk for nothing.

      I for one would endure a season or two letting them develop.
      Rather than sign Clowe,who’s production is on the decline, I would rather Bergevin trade for and sign UFA’s such as Stalberg and Iginla. Even at his age, he would have been tied with Pleks in scoring. I think he would be a great mentor for Patches and the rest of the young players.

      Boyle is getting older and San Jose has a lot of big tough defence in their system. I would move Diaz and Gorges to San Jose for Petrecki and 2nd round pick. Petrecki is big, 6’3″ 230 lbs, can play,has a mean streak, and is the same age as Subban. He shoots left would make a great partner for Subban, leaving Tinordi to play with Beaulieu, Emelin with Markov, Boullion/Pateryn. In a season or teo Dietz and Ellis can replace Emelin and Boullion.

      See if the Devils would want Gionta back, if not, see what they could get for him elsewhere.

      Trade Holland to Chicago for Beach. The Habs can afford to take the risk, they have a lot of right wingers in the system and Chicago has a lot of left wingers in their System. Beach can play centre and has size and sandpaper. His last year in junior he had 52 goals, 34 assists and 186 pims. He has had a few injuries but he is starting to round out. At the worst, he could be a 4th line left wing or centre, at best a 3rd line centre. He adds something the Habs sorely lack.

      Trade DD and Moen for whatever they can get.

      Patches, Pleks, Bourque
      Stalberg, Eller, Iginla
      Prust, Galchenyuk, Gallagher
      Beach, White, Kristo

      Markov, Emelin
      Petrecki, Subban
      Tinordi, Boullion
      Pateryn/Beaulieu
      Habfan17

      • Fransaskois says:

        Liking how you think Habfan17. Not a huge fan of moving Diaz or Gorges as it would make a hole in the lineup that would take much longer to fill considering how slowly most defenceman develop. Beach and Stalberg/Iginla would be great pickups.

  32. The Cat says:

    I know the D could be bigger and better but the team didnt get into 2nd place on the back of Price, so at 6 million he is kind of the issue. He is paid to be a DIFFERENCE-MAKER. The best team in the world wont play like the best team if they have no faith in their goalie or if they feel hes going to let in softies. The reckless abandon wont be there, the D might not pinch offensively etc. Khabibulin won the cup and all he had was Boyle back there, literally. And TB’s aggresive style led to many 2 on 1s vs Bulin.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  33. montreal ace says:

    Price is a fine goalie, who is only going to get better. Price helped this team into the playoffs with his fine start this year, and after last year, 3 games was better then nothing. The piece that Dave wrote was well written, and Price expressed some of his feelings about the season, and that he would have preferred a better result. The part of the article that stood out to me, was how well he has adjusted to life in Montreal, after coming from a small town from the interior of BC. I am also looking forward to MBs end of the season press conference Monday, as I am pretty sure someone is going to bring up Price, and I want to hear what he says. In the article Price says he has not done anything else in life but play goal, and that its a tough job but he loves it. I’m glad that he does his job in Montreal, and I hope he has a good off season and enjoys himself.

  34. Stretch says:

    Yup, a lot of work to be done this offseason. I agree that Price is not the issue, and a healthy, bigger, tougher lineup throughout would have made the most difference, however I don’t think blowing up the roster is the answer. A few tweaks is all that’s needed when realizing the Habs are really 3 years away from being serious cup contenders. With Emelin and Tinordi (and Pateryn as the call up until Emelin is back from injury) D toughness is there. Up front, right now the Desharnais re-signing looks like it was a mistake. If he can be packaged with Weber to somewhere like Edmonton for a prospect or 2, MB should jump at it (Paajarvi comes to mind). Also, how much would Ryane Clowe cost? 5.0m? Halpern and Armstrong should be re-signed for depth, but only if they will accept less than 1.0m each. White should sign for his offer sheet amount. This lineup would leave over 4.0m in cap space available:

    Bourque-Pleks-Gionta
    Patches-Eller-Clowe
    Prust-Gally-Gally
    Moen-White-Armstrong
    Paajarvi-Halpern

    Markov-Emelin
    Georges-Subban
    Tinordi-Diaz
    Bouillon

    Price
    Budaj

    Could the lineup be even tougher? For sure, but this is a multi-step process that will take a few years to work through. This year 3 steps forward and 1 step back were taken. That’s still 2 steps forward.

    • Habfan17 says:

      I like most of what you propose, howver I think Gorges and Gionta also need to go. I also think Pleks should be traded, if not during the off season, at the trade deadline.

      I think Bergevin could do better than Halpern and Armstrong. Paajarvi may make a decent 2nd line left wing, he has size, speed and skill but has not yet put it all together. I don’t think that the Oilers would take DD for him, but maybe Diaz or Gorges and a contingent draft pick if Paajarvi makes the 2nd line and gets a certain number of points. Possibly add Holland. I don’t think Clowe is the answer, too much like Cole, getting older, although unlike Cole, Clowe’s production has gone down in the last three seasons.

      Habfan17

  35. The Jackal says:

    What are all these comments on Price wanting out of Montreal?

    I don’t understand how some see his comments to insinuate that.
    All he said is that it is a double-edged sword. It is great when things are good but terrible when the shit hits the fan.
    I imagine that it must be really tough to be out buying groceries and then hear HIO comments but actually said to you. Man, how irritating that must be..

    Anyway, all Price said is that he is used to the pressure and that he knows he is capable of being our guy. He’s spoken to two other fine goalies who have been through the same thing. I mean, Roy won two cups and he was still run out of town. Price had a chat with him and Dryden and knows what to expect, and he can also draw on their experience.

    I think Price wants to play here because he is up to the challenge and he can handle it. While he is still getting used to the fish-tank atmosphere when the going is rough, he is only 25… He has a lot of gas in the tank.

    Some commenter said something earlier about how he doesn’t think Price can just flip the switch and be on. Another guy said something about money goalies and Price’s playoff record. Well, the playoff record is not Price’s, it’s the teams. Do the Habs have a winning record in the playoffs? Every Hab has a winning record except Price? How is that even a solid way to evaluate his individual success?
    And then, when talking about how Price does not turn it in… people, have you forgotten the last 2 seasons? He had a bad half-season…. That’s it.

    And well, the D picture is frightening, but put Price behind a decent D and he puts up way better numbers than he has previously put up, and it’s not like those were bad to begin with.

    In short, goaltending is not our problem. Like Tuoms said, D is the biggest issue we’re facing.

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    • Marc10 says:

      This is the press manufacturing a controversy. Here’s the real scoop for Jack Todd…

      Hockey players are happy when they win. When they’re not winning, life is a giant piece of s***. So there’s your story. “Habs players unhappy following loss!”

  36. Frank2468 says:

    Well it may look like there is a problem with Price and M.B may have some problems with him? Looks like he may not be to happy in Montreal either way it’s going to have to be addressed. Here his the excerpt from his interview article written by Jack Todd. Could spell trouble in Dodge. Price haters will be happy and Price supporters will be concerned, and Middle of the road Price supporters will think well there you go another player who wants out of Montreal cause fans hound him everywhere he goes. I personally noticed on one occasion how he may feel about being in the spot light. He may be shy or a private person or a bit of an introvert who knows. But last year I was in Brassard with my 9 year old daughter who just loves Price. He came out of practice came over to the fence area where they meet the fans and there wasn’t a lot of fans there so he was in and out in like 5 mins. Anyway my daughter walked up to the truck asked Carey to sign a T-Shirt she bought that had his number on it, which he did. But in the process was really indifferent to her he answered her questions with one word answers and when he sighed the shirt he didn’t even look at her and just passed it back to her didn’t look her way or even smile. I thought he was a little off a bit rude. We saw other players as well. Like Gio, Hal when he was there and Moen, Budaj Patches and so on, basically chatted with most of the players for like a 1 min each. They all were engaging with the fans except for Price and I found it odd then and now reading the article it kind of shown a light on things. Either way maybe M.B has a problem. Don’t get me wrong he doesn’t owe my daughter anything but he could of at least smiled at her or give a little wink or something don’t think it would have killed him?

    “That’s one thing I miss,” he said, “just being anonymous. It’s tough to do that here.

    “It’s impossible. I don’t even go to the grocery store anymore. I hardly do anything anymore. I’m like a hobbit in a hole.”

    That is not a life for anyone, much less a wealthy, handsome young athlete.

    • JUST ME says:

      I am surprised that you would put any weight to Price`s words since it has been going on for decades in Montreal. A hockey player is a god and recognized as one in day to day life wich brings some discomforts that otherwise are usually rather flattering for an athlete that wants to feel like he has reached the top of his profession.

      Some would probably rather play in Columbus or Nashville and play their game as if it was an anonymous job as any other but for as guy who just signed a long term deal in what is called hockey`s mecca i doubt that it is the case.

      As for the story you are stating about your daughter you probably wanted Price to take her in his arms and so on but it does not happen this way in real life. They have a life of their own and a character of their own wich we have not right to criticize.

      Yes Price is a shy and somewhat private guy but mostly he is a goaler wich puts him in a special category of human beings quite often on their own planet .

      • Frank2468 says:

        no i didn’t want price to take her in his arms, I’m not a complete idiot but a little acknowledgment would have been nice is all and i resent the fact that you think I was looking for him to treat her as if she was his sister or cousin. He basically sighed the shirt and tossed at her and didn’t look at her. Wow and you call that acceptable behavior from someone, and you are trying to put me down saying I have no right criticize. I wasn’t criticizing I was making an observation. Hal spoke with her, so did D.D, she actually made D.D turn red and laugh, patch’s stopped for quick pic, P.K joked for sec and some small talk, White stopped laughed for sec, Gio asked if like the practice, Budaj was really nice guy and liked to talk. Sorry being that way to adults is one thing being like that to kid is an other, and i wasn’t the only one that kind of looked at him strange. Anyway lets drop it cause when it comes to kids all bets are off.

    • The Cat says:

      I think youre right to be irked. If Paul effin’ McCartney ( a man who has probably been harassed by fans as much as anyone on this planet ever) can make time for people and not make them feel idiotic for caring, so can Price and every other NHLer, especially with kids.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Clay says:

      I understand your feelings completely…and I agree that players need to take the time for the fans – especially the kids.
      I went to the Vancouver All Star Game back in 1998. We were outside after the skills competition (only about 5 or 6 of us, and no other fans around for some reason, as we were at an obscure exit), and we saw lots of players come out and sign autographs. Most were great (notably Eddie Belfour), but one guy was just a dick….there was a little boy (6 or 7 years old) there wearing his jersey, and walked up to him and asked for an autograph. The player just walked right by him without so much as glancing his way. I could see how crushed that little boy was, and I could easily imagine how I would have felt in his place. I have had no respect for that player since that day.

      The player’s name is Jaromir Jagr, by the way.

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  37. HABZZZ says:

    So how many years have they told us the calls would remain the same in the playoffs ? They won’t change in order to cater to the US teams so watching DD on his back for the entire playoffs or Moen skating around counting sheep didn’t do it for me. Webber, Moen, Diaz, Dumont, Kaberle, Gorges, White, all need to go. Ryder showed he really didn’t want to be here. Gallagher and Galchenyuk played great but if we ever hope to have that Cup held high again we need size. Lots of teams need to get under the cap so Marc this is our chance …Find us some power !!

  38. Marc10 says:

    The biggest loss in terms of offence in our lineup will be Ryder/Cole. To replace them with a big body who can skate… Here’s one UFA who might fit into our dev plan for a top 9 player.

    Viktor Stalberg (CHI) – left wing

    • D Mex says:

      Based on what we have seen with Ryder and Cole in the Habs lineup, the ” biggest loss ” you refer to is not obvious to me :

      – Cole lacked drive to start the 2013 season, and was quoted as admitting as much to his Habs teammates. The passion and drive left his game, and Joe Neuwendyk might now agree.
      – Ryder’s production immediately following the trade made MB look prophetic, but he was MIA down the stretch and invisible in the Ottawa series – and in a contract year.

      The saved cap space no longer being occupied by Cole and Ryder should be more than enough to acquire replacement(s) with decent size, skills and sustainable work ethic – a big plus in my book.

      ALWAYS Habs –
      D Mex

      • J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

        Totally agree

        I remember Dec. 31, 1975

      • Marc10 says:

        Agree about the lack of playoff impact. But in getting our 3 goals per game mandated by MT, there’s no denying that Cole (last season) and Ryder (this season) brought something to the table.

        That will need to be replaced or we’ll find ourselves on the losing side of close games more often than without those types of guys in the lineup.

        Thus my asking about Stalberg. He’s got decent size, can score some… Not sure there’s a lot out there in terms of goal scoring. Maybe Iggy… but he’s expensive, getting old and we’re not on his list.

  39. Gally365 says:

    There’s a good French Goal tender in LA by the name of Bernier. That’s who I would be going for. I think Price wants out of Montreal.

    • D Mex says:

      Not saying I agree or disagree, but am curious to know what makes you think Price ” wants out of Montreal. ”
      Todd wrote an article on this same theme, but offered nothing specific to support it.

      ALWAYS Habs –
      D Mex

  40. Dryden_29 says:

    Testing my new gravatar…can someone confirm it is on my profile for me…thanks.

  41. commandant says:

    Anaheim’s loss means the Habs now hold the 25th pick in the draft.

    It would improve to 24th if one of the Penguins/Hawks lose in the 2nd round.

    23rd if both lose.

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  42. C-Sword says:

    Kings Vs Sharks, Hawks Vs Wings.

    What are your picks?

    • J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

      Zetterberg and Datsyuk run out of steam. Hawks in 5.
      Quick carries Kings to 6-game victory.
      Hawks-Kings Conference Final. Should be a dandy.

      I remember Dec. 31, 1975

      • GrosBill says:

        That will be a series I will not miss! Pulling for Hawks to go all the way with the Habs out. In the East, though I am sure I will get flak for this, I am pulling for the Sens. I was hoping they would not meet the Habs in the first round because they were kind of my underdog of the east. Aside from bouncing us, they have had a heck of a year battling injuries.

  43. Bill says:

    Wow, I thought the Ducks would go far in the playoffs.

    This is why I drink instead of wasting my money gambling.

    EDIT: Zetterberg with the BRUTAL penalty and Ducks within one, I jinxed the Wings, haha.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      I´m certainly not always right but I was completely convinced the Ducks would go out in the first or second round. Totally overrated team that had a surprisingly good regular season. At least the Blackhawks and Kings have much, much better squads.

  44. mcslava1 says:

    If we want to win Stanley in this decade, trade Price!!! Bring someone BIG!!!

    • The Dude says:

      Who could we get for Price……Malkin?

      • deuce6 says:

        In a heart beat..

        ——————
        Brandon Prust doesn’t have hair on his testicles, because hair does not grow on steel….

        • jedimyrmidon says:

          Uhh… you sure that the Habs could get Malkin for Price ‘in a heartbeat’?

          • HardHabits says:

            Only if the Habs take Fleury as well.

          • Bill says:

            He’s saying he’d do it in a heartbeat, which indeed so would anyone who was not the GM of the Pittsburgh Penguins.

            Although the ever popular Plekanec+Price for Malkin+Fleury might be looking more appealing to the Penguins at this point in time.

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          • jedimyrmidon says:

            Yeah, I know; I was nitpicking his response because The Dude didn’t formulate it in that way.

            Anyways, getting Malkin would be great… not sure if Fleury in nets is good (i.e. might be really bad).

  45. showey47 says:

    One question I wish somebody would have asked therrien is in game 4 when prust had to pop his own rib back into place is why was he even on the ice when the sens tied the game with the goalie pulled.Look at the video when the sens score prust is on the ice holding his ribs. The guy was too hurt to even be playing never mind in such a key moment of the game.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZZ8X1zWJbo

  46. ProHabs says:

    Has Louis Leblanc flamed out.

  47. Bill says:

    @tuoms: I am pretty sure Timo was a goalie, ask him :)

  48. Tuoms says:

    I wish to chime on the Carey Price debate. Assuming the majority of people on this site have played the game in one capacity or another, I’m sure there are goaltenders present with an opinion on this matter.

    I stated in my first post, that I don’t think any goaltender will excel with the current defence in front of him. To me, this has been an issue for this team for several years now. When I watch the games, I see opposing players, crowding the crease, screening the goaltender, and getting to loose pucks with impunity. It always seems that the Habs are usually unable to contend with net swarming, net crashing, or jam plays. Way too often, goal mouth scrambles result in two Habs’ defencemen laying on the ice, Price making a snow-angel, and an opposing player banging the rebound into the net.

    While the above issues, by themselves, are certain to result in too many goals against, a lack of confidence in the defence in front of him certainly has to adversely affect a goaltender’s overall confidence, and ultimately, his performance.

    Confidence that the streaking winger is covered, that rebounds will be cleared, that passing lanes are taken away and shooter’s options are limited, must give a goaltender the piece of mind necessary to comfortably square to the shot without over-thinking, or over-playing. Without that confidence, It seems to me that goaltenders might be inclined to over-think, play a little further back in their net, and perhaps cheat a little.

    I’m not here to make excuses for Price. I’m as disappointed in his performance as everyone here, though I do wonder how he would perform if the D issue is addressed.

    Are there any goaltenders out there with an opinion on this matter?

    • GoaliesRus says:

      Yes, I’m a former goalie. A few things – I think Price has a 5-hole problem. His stick needs to be more active.

      But psychology-wise.. He needs to play with fire. Look at the 2-3 greatest goalies of our generation: Roy. Brodeur. Hasek. They were intense individuals. Look at Khabibulin in his prime. Even Ray Emery. Price’s mechanics are decent, but his intensity seems to make him less sharp.. In my opinion. But.. everybody expected him to be the next one – and knowing that he can’t win unless he brings us the Cup.. Is a tough thing to play with.
      People won’t like it, he reminds me of Jocelyn Thibault who was drafted very high – had great fundamentals, highly touted, and failed in Montreal. I’m sorry, but what is Price’s record in the playoffs? What happened to Budaj… When they expected great things from him? We need a solid goalie with no expectations. Halak – was a backup, so he played with no pressure. I LOVED playing games with no pressure on me ..and without the spotlight . Wrote this on my ipad.. So sorry for the mistakes. In short.. It’s a psych thing. If Anderson let in 5 goals in game 1, he wouldn’t have been blamed – but he didn’t.

      • deuce6 says:

        No offense, but goalies that love playing without pressure aren’t big game goalies..If he thought the kitchen was too hot, maybe he shouldn’t have signed on the dotted line last summer..

        Money goalies play their best under pressure, in the face of adversity, and when everything is on the line..Price has yet to show me that..He kinda “goes with the flow”..He shows flashes, but doesn’t “bring it” nearly enough..

        Its just too bad he got paid on potential and not accomplishment..If not being the next Roy was bad enough, he has to have a $6M+ contract to live up to..
        Anderson schooled him in the playoffs..

        ——————
        Brandon Prust doesn’t have hair on his testicles, because hair does not grow on steel….

        • Bill says:

          “Money Goalie”: (n) An imaginary creature who plays goal in the NHL and never loses an important game and therefore wins a Stanley Cup every year. Syn. “Clutch Goalie”

          I’m kidding around, but in all fairness, every goalie loses more “big games” than they win. Everyone says Lundqvist is the greatest goalie in the NHL, well he’s won 27 playoff games and lost 33 up to this year. Won four playoff series and lost five. So he’s lost more “big games” than he’s won … is also not a “money goalie”?

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          • jedimyrmidon says:

            .

          • jedimyrmidon says:

            .

          • jedimyrmidon says:

            B-but he’s Lundqvist, man.

            Also: he isn’t on the Habs. We have higher standards.

          • deuce6 says:

            My definition of a money goalie differs..

            Money goalies raise their level of play when the money is on the line..Hence the definition of “money” goalie..They don’t have to win every big game, just play above the norm..Raise your game when your team needs it..

            Price does, at times, but then kinda goes with the flow more often than not..

            How good was Quick in last year’s playoffs? This year beating out a tough STL squad? Quick raises his game when the pressure is on..He is a money goalie..
            ——————
            Brandon Prust doesn’t have hair on his testicles, because hair does not grow on steel….

          • jedimyrmidon says:

            I’d rather have a Money Team: if something goes wrong in any facet, someone else is there to raise their game and compensate in a fluid, dynamic and utterly effective manner.

      • Tuoms says:

        Thanks for your reply Rus. I do agree with most of what you said. My question is, as a goaltender, how does confidence in your D affect your psych? Do you think a soft D might cause you to over-think, cheat a bit, even become somewhat hesitant?

        As a defenceman, I can say with certainty (for obvious reasons), that I played my best with a solid partner. Why? Because it took the pressure off of me. I Pinched and forced checks without hesitation because I knew my partner would always be in position to cover any mistakes I made. I handled the puck with more confidence, because I knew I’d always have an open passing lane to him.

        I’m not going to argue that the pressure of playing in Montreal doesn’t affect him. I’m just suggesting that his play might significantly improve with a better D in front of him.

        I’m interested in your opinion on this, from a goalie’s perspective.

      • J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

        Very well said. I’ve felt that way about him for the last 3years. He has the ability to raise his game, as we saw in March after he got lit up by Toronto. He got pissed off at himself, and tomahawked his stick over the crossbar in practice. Then he had a terrific game against Tampa Bay.
        Unfortunately, too often, his drive and focus seems to wane and drift. Even over the course of a game. Being a great goalie often involves hating the opposing shooters, and vowing that “the likes of them” will NEVER beat you. And if they do, you scold yourself, and then double your determination.

        I remember Dec. 31, 1975

    • Marc10 says:

      Nice post. I’m of two minds on this one.

      If we’re going to give up on Pricer, we should have a Plan B. We traded Roy away and it took 10 years before Theo came along. And just naming any second tier goalie won’t cut it. Guys are suggesting we bring in anyone… This Montreal. We eat goalies for breakfast. They better be strong ‘entre les deux oreilles’ as they say…

      As we don’t have a Plan B and the team is still rebuilding, it probably buys him at least one more year. Hopefully we can find one or (preferably) 2 NHL caliber Ds in the 220lbs range with a mean streak to clear the front of the net to let the guy see pucks and control rebounds. If that contributes to Price elevating his play, problem solved. If not, we can still trade him (and hopefully by then, we’ll have worked on Plan B…)

      Our lineup needs some serious retooling. Bigger Ds, one heavy weight, a couple more Brandon Prusts and one more power forward.

      I don’t know that Price is the biggest issue (although there’s no denying he needs to work on his game…)

      • jedimyrmidon says:

        To me, it’s pretty clear that goaltending isn’t the biggest issue.

        I bet Jonathan Quick on this team gets fried. Or even the vaunted Craig Anderson.

        (People don’t seem to realise the Sens were the stingiest team defensively in the league where Ben Bishop and Robin Lehner had stellar stats in Anderson’s absence.)

        • Marc10 says:

          Quick would certainly get a work out… and Anderson would be seeing a lot fewer shots before they hit him and then he’d need super human powers to keep the rebounds out of the net.

          Not saying they wouldn’t be better than Price, but I agree… They’d likely struggle with our undersized D on the case.

      • J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

        That concerns me, too. If Carey flames out, or even gets injured long-term, we have no one in development. We need a plan B, juste en cas.

        I remember Dec. 31, 1975

  49. Saintpatrick33 says:

    Laffs vs Goons go to game 7 exactly what I was hoping for. Hopefully the Laffs will win the series then get bounced with extreme prejudice by whomever wins the Caps-Rangers series.

  50. Timo says:

    Oooh… is there “Carey Price is a good guy” article coming up as per Stubbs’ tweet? I can’t wait.

    Every time I see another goalie make a save I am like “Sigh. I wish Carey Price could do that.”

  51. Timo says:

    Heh… 9 people gave Bergevin an F. I am one. Who else?

  52. jedimyrmidon says:

    Priorities for the Habs moving forward:

    1. Move towards a physical, aggressive D corps that can hit, box out opponents, and a make a solid first pass/possesses a good slapshot. Two effective mobile ‘offensive’ Dmen is enough (Subban is a rare case of a player that can do everything). Maybe Beaulieu will replace Markov in that capacity.
    2. Have a maximum of two forwards around Gionta/Gallagher’s size on the roster. Correct ‘behavioural’ issues with larger Habs where Gionta and Gallagher are the ones most willing to go into the dirty areas/in front of the net.
    3. Start drafting goaltenders again.
    4. Help Price regain his confidence.

  53. doug19 says:

    Strange that Ryder almost vanished in the playoffs, he got goals for Beaners.

    • Timo says:

      He had slightly different players surround him. They would work for pucks and he’d cash in (and make an occasional save on a turtleneck boy). With the Habs he had to work to get pucks and since he had to work… well… that was the end of Ryder’s scoring.

  54. Propwash says:

    Aah, Jack Todd, the master cherrypicker.

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  55. deuce6 says:

    Out:
    Markov
    Kaberle
    Weber (RFA)
    Halpern (UFA)
    Desharnais (hopefully traded)
    Moen (Hopefully traded)
    Armstrong
    Gionta (hopefully traded – Doubt it with arm issue :( )
    Ryder (UFA)
    Nokelainen (UFA)
    Blunden (RFA)
    Drewiske (UFA)

    Who I would like to be brought in:
    Bryan Bickell (UFA from CHI)
    Patrick Bordeleau (UFA from COL)
    David Clarkson (UFA from NJ)
    Rob Scuderi (UFA from LA)
    or
    Doug Murray (UFA from PITT)
    Ryane Clowe (UFA from NYR)
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    Of course, it would be nice to sign all of these guys, but 2 or 3 would really help our toughness/size issue..

    ——————
    Brandon Prust doesn’t have hair on his testicles, because hair does not grow on steel….

    • MtlCANADIENS93 says:

      isnt horton a free agent? if boston loses tomorrow night he probably wont re-sign with the team

      • Kooch7800 says:

        He had a rough season. He has not been the same since the concussion

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • deuce6 says:

        I’m not sold on Horton..I think that hit in the cup finals really hurt him..I don’t think he plays with the same edge he used to play with..

        ——————
        Brandon Prust doesn’t have hair on his testicles, because hair does not grow on steel….

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        Too injury prone…

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Sportfan says:

      They are for sure just going to run out Gios contract

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    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Completely agree on Bickell and Bordeleau…young and affordable. Like Clarkson but might cost too much…rather trade for Chris Stewart and give him the money. Disagree on the D-men…have too many left-handed D. Rather trade Markov for a tough right handed D-man to play with Gorges. I think Diaz needs to go too.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • deuce6 says:

        Yea, I was simply going through the upcoming UFA list and didn’t take any of that into account on D…We need those types of D, though..Tough/stay at home..

        ——————
        Brandon Prust doesn’t have hair on his testicles, because hair does not grow on steel….

    • Marc10 says:

      Realistically, it will be near impossible to move Gio, DD, Markov. If you want a trade, you’ll need to think about moving Pleks and prospects.

      Some of those UFAs are also going to prove to expensive. We’ll need a right-hand shot on D. That said, I like Bickell and Bordeleau from your list. There might be other big bodied pick ups available from Chicago and other teams struggling to get under the reduced cap.

      Realistically, MB can go shopping the following year when the last of the Gainey era veterans clear out. That will open the vaults.

    • Timo says:

      I think bringing tough guys alone won’t be enough. It is great to have rough and tough 3rd and 4th line and it will definitley be an upgrade for the Habs but I think team also needs a couple guys in the top 6 who can play rough and mix it up when required. I mean. let’s face it, Plekanec, Gionta, Pacs, Gallagher, Eller, Galchenyuk, DD, hardly instill any fear into a defencemen going into the corner.

  56. HardHabits says:

    The Habs are getting bigger and will continue to get bigger, regardless of what the statisticians say.

    IMO, the reason the Habs lost round one was that in those decisive 3rd periods the defence couldn’t contain the Sens’ forwards form cycling and creating havoc in and around Price’s crease. Put Price behind the Sens’ D and Anderson behind the Habs’ D and the Sens still win.

    JARED COWEN 6′ 5″ 230
    ERIC GRYBA 6′ 4″ 222
    MARC METHOT 6′ 3″ 231
    CHRIS PHILLIPS 6′ 3″ 221
    SERGEI GONCHAR 6′ 2″ 206
    ERIK KARLSSON 6′ 0″ 175

    JARRED TINORDI 6′ 6″ 205
    JOSH GORGES 6′ 1″ 203
    P.K. SUBBAN 6′ 0″ 216
    ANDREI MARKOV 6′ 0″ 204
    RAPHAEL DIAZ 5′ 11″ 197
    FRANCIS BOUILLON 5′ 8″ 197

    On this list the only two keepers are for me are Tinordi and Subban, and Subban should be the smallest defenceman, moving forward.

    As for Gallagher-Desharnais-Gionta trio. Would anybody ever put that line out there? I doubt it. They’d get mauled.

    I like small skilled players, and all championship teams have them. The idea is balance. When a team lacks skilled players who are also bigger they lose the pitched battles along the boards, they take the brunt of the hits, and end up being on the worst for it at the end of collisions. It’s not rocket science. It’s simple physics.

    The Habs lost the series for more than one reason. The played a nice robust game in game two but were brought back down to earth in game 3. The NHL play-offs is the toughest physical grind of all professional sports. The classic image of a bearded, black-eyed, bruised, and tooth missing player hoisting the Cup is no cliche. To deny that size and grit are not important elements as are skill and speed is denying what the game of hockey is all about. The Habs defence is too small. One of Gionta-Desharnais-Gallagher would be better replaced, especially when Plekanec is another one of you premier centres.

    Much work to do.

    • deuce6 says:

      I’m with you..We are too small on D and too many smaller players at forward..Unfortunately, Gionta has an arm injury and he doesn’t have any value, whatsoever and DD I can let go for a bag of pucks..

      Keep Gallagher, obviously..

      On D, I would like Markov, Gorges, Boullion, Weber, Kaberle all gone and Tinordi/Beaulieu brought up..Add Scuderi and Doug Murray via FA..Pateryn would be a nice 7th guy..

      There are some robust forwards out there via FA as well..

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    • NoTinFoilCups says:

      Gorges is listed at 6′ 01″ ?!

  57. Bozo McBozo says:

    I have not had a single drink this evening. My moderation is awaiting comment!

  58. Sportfan says:

    If the Wings and Leafs make it to the next round I give up on hockey until they are both gone…

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  59. Sportfan says:

    People are really taking Prices comments too seriously he’s lucky he isn’t a native of Quebec at this point.

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  60. Bozo McBozo says:

    My comment is awaiting moderation. What does that mean? A full and thorough review by BALLS?

  61. Danno says:

    Having read both articles, I would suggest Jack Toad completely misrepresented what Price said in Stubbs’s article.

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  62. habfan100 says:

    Where is the article/video about Price being a hermit?

  63. thehammer says:

    Someone end this Toronto non sense please.

  64. ths says:

    BERGY NEEDS TO OFFER Carey for Ben Scrivens. He’s been around Reimer all year so he probably learned a few things about playing under pressure and winning big games. Carey will do well in TO as backup and his girlfriend will get more exposure on HNIC

    Ooh Aah Habs on the golf course

  65. Mattyleg says:

    Good ol’ RDS.
    I can’t even imagine what is happening on HNIC (that’s a lie, I can imagine almost exactly what is happening on HNIC) but RDS switched directly over to Ducks-Wings with no Leaf lovin’.

    Wings put one in!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  66. C-Sword says:

    1-0 for the Wings

  67. jedimyrmidon says:

    I feel very strange typing this:

    The Leafs winning over the Bruins might actually be a worse outcome.

    Why?

    1) Because the Leafs weren’t supposed to win. I think we Habs fans living in the GTA/who read general hockey forums are going to be hearing about this almost as if they won over the Habs because the Bruins are obviously better and hence they would have beat us.
    2) Reimer is playing well. I personally have nothing against him, but I can’t help but feel there are many here with covetous eyes, seeing… wanting.

    • smiler2729 says:

      What a predicament!

      I hate both the Boohooins and the Laffs.

      I guess the Chowdaheads’ fans, Idiot Nation, are more tolerable than the Laff Nation morons who just can’t act like they’ve been there before ‘cuz they really haven’t so they’ll never shut up about this.

      But if the Laffs knock off the Boohooins then Turtlehead Julien will likely be fired… hmm, and maybe Lucic traded?
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    • kalevine says:

      how about this?
      may the best team win.
      right now that’s the leafs
      don’t be too preoccupied by the media

  68. habsfan0 says:

    How many Leafs will Don Cherry kiss tonight?

    First Toronto home ice playoff win over Boston since 1959.
    I think they were due.

  69. Mattyleg says:

    Good ol’ RDS.
    I can’t even imagine what is happening on HNIC (that’s a lie, I can imagine almost exactly what is happening on HNIC) but RDS switched directly over to Ducks-Wings with no Leaf-blowing.

    Wings put one in!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  70. gmur says:

    The CBC should show us more shots of James Reimer’s girlfriend. The CBC… always aspiring to showcase the cheesiest story going.

  71. HabFanSince72 says:

    Already 1-0 for the Wings.

  72. punkster says:

    Chara blew that…should have taken the shot…he had time and the screen in front of Reimer.

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    • showey47 says:

      No doubt dave, chara had room to take a couple steps in and lean into one.

      • punkster says:

        Weird decision there…one of the hardest shots in the league, wide open lane, lots of time to get it off before the forward blocks it.

        Br00nz making a bunch of odd decisions…Lucic looks lost at times, Jagr hangs on to the puck way too long, Marchand is a nowhere man out there.

        ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

        • showey47 says:

          The bruins look like crap yet have probably still been the better team. I never felt jagr was a good fit for the B’s except for maybe the powerplay. The bruins 5 on 5 are built for north-south hockey, that isn’t jagr’s game. Gotta give him credit though,still one of the best at protecting the puck along the boards and in the corners.

  73. Sportfan says:

    I’m not sure if Ryder leaving without talking to the media is a good thing… I can’t explain why, but I feel like he should have said something.

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  74. YOWHab says:

    who here would support signing Horton as a UFA??


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