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Shout-out to Stu Hackel of the New York Times for this piece from St. Louis.
And anotherHab found this Eller video
Nightmare49 posted this link to a Jaro story
Don’t get me wrong – I’m all for the booing. But I want it directed at management. They dropped the ball. We all know what we had with Halak, and they threw him away to save face over making a lousy draft choice.
“Peoples will only be truly free when the last king is strangled by the bowels of the last priest” Francois Laignelot
Ya, i’m not cryin for the Beans in this draft.
okay lol 😀 I hope they don’t cause they’re pretty well off as it is thanks to laffy durke
Well, ya that’s kinda where i was leading, Boston won’t get squat.
Yes, but if (when?) Price fails, he will get none of my ire (why would he – it’s not his fault) – I’m saving all of that for PG and his crew…and I hope the idiot boobirds at the Bell Centre do the same.
Of course, I am hoping Price gets it together, and shows his earlier promise that made everyone think so highly of him. Bon Chance, Carey. You’re going to need it, because you have been cast into the shark cage, with no where to hide.
I wish good luck to Jaro as well, even though he doesn’t need luck – his game speaks for itself.
too me it seems they’re at opposite ends of the spectrum, one young, one old. one rfa, one signed at 5 mil. one in the prime of his career after a stellar playoff run and regular season, the other sat on the bench as his team lost a series after being up 3-0. lastly one took over the #1 spot, the other lost it.
Seriously though…who’s going to take on a $5 mill salary for a back-up goalie? Thomas is not going anywhere, unless it’s the AHL. Unless Burke wants to be more of an idiot? Maybe he will offer up all of his first round pics until 2016?
I think it’s pretty comparable. His trade value is certainly diminished.
To be honest – it was the crash that reverted the photo back – I simply was lazy in changing it back.
Reading that article on Halak just reinforces the magnitude of his loss. The Habs are going to feel this one for a long time…terrible asset (mis)management.
And Eller…he didn’t even get 20 goals in the AHL, so don’t expect big things from him in the NHL. We all hope he does well, but realistically we can’t expect him to be more than a Higgins type scorer at best.
So what do you think the Bruins will fetch for 36-yr-old Thomas now that the bar has been set with Halak?
Cube re-ups with Nashville:
Oh good, this IS a hockey site, I was beginning to think it was all about the posters. Good read nightmare, thx.
i guess thats up to OB?
Pardon me for not exactly being excited over a 57 point man in the AHL and 29 more with Frolunda, whatever they are.
… Should Bruin’s GM Peter Chiarelli send Brian Burke a thank you card – Recent history of No. 2 picks / boston.com
adam, you & I certainly have argued, and I myself lobbied to encourage you to change your avatar.
I was extremely happy to see you take it down when you did during the playoffs, so we could all enjoy those same playoffs without having a negative image to look at.
Thank You for that.
Was not too surprised to see it come back, but I said to myself. OK the off-season is still early going.
I respect you for taking it down as you did, and hope it stays down now.
Hab Fans are VERY emotional people, some more then others.
I have not seen personal attacks from Tom, but if he did do that as you say. I agree that ain’t cool, and that would certainly be crossing the line IMHO.
we do need to resign plecks as it will be hard to make up for his 70 points in the reg season…if we do resign plecks and eller makes the club he will play 3rd line but than he will be stuck with our many collection of hands of stone wingers …
Will Eller be wearing 20 or 61 with the Habs?
if eller makes the team that is fine…some people on this site think he can get 70 points…i think a 40 point season would be great…not too many players in the nhl last year had 70 points…dont forget he has played only one year in the ahl …
hey bugs please layoff carey a bit next year, k? maybe he didnt mature so well with pt pro analisis like yours but why werent you in net for 07? hes one of bc’s finest k, that means english. bring back the nq!!!
… Another nice read on our former goalie – Strong work ethic drives Jaroslav Halak
“During the playoffs, I wasn’t reading any newspapers or watching TV,” he said. “But after the season, after it was over, my friends told me how crazy it was and how crazy the people were. It was nice to hear and it was a great run.”
Quotes from Steve Simmons / Sun Media
– If there were a Hall of Fame for the entitled and the egotistical, Eric Lindros would be a consensus first-ballot selection.
– Ken Holland doesn’t make a lot of mistakes, but he’s made two recently with the Detroit Red Wings: 1. Giving up too early on Ville Leino; 2. Re-signing Todd Bertuzzi again. Quick trivia question: Post Steve Moore, name a team Bertuzzi has made better. Answer: None.
– The dean of all hockey writers, Red Fisher, has spoken. He has obliterated the Canadiens for the Halak deal and the dean doesn’t obliterate often … What the dean didn’t say: The Habs could miss the playoffs next season.
– Mike Cammalleri and Danny Briere, 1-2 in playoff goal scoring, were 45th and 46th in scoring during the regular season.
– Can anybody explain to me why the NHL has a Final but the NBA has a Finals?
Matty’s Sunday Short Shifts with Jim Matheson (Tidbits)
– SOURAY MAY FIT WITH SABRES
The Buffalo Sabres might be in the Sheldon Souray hunt because they only got 30 goals from all of their defencemen last season, including 11 from rookie Tyler Myers.
– Carey Price has lost his last nine playoff games with the Montreal Canadiens, yet they traded away Jaroslav Halak to anoint Price their No. 1 goalie.
– Best bet for Laraque? The New York Rangers, who let Donald Brashear go. New York GM Glen Sather drafted Laraque.
– If any team wants Kris Versteeg, here’s the likely scenario the Chicago Blackhawks are pitching: They will give him up for a second-round pick, but the team getting the winger also has to take defenceman Brent Sopel’s $2.2 million contract off their hands.
Anyone else notice Eller uses the on one knee one-timer like Cammy does. I also love the fact that almost every goal was below the dots, in the high traffic areas. He has a great looking shot and is willing to screen the goalie. I’m really getting excited about getting this kid. Schultz looked like a beast aswell, I really can’t wait to see what we do at the draft and in free agency.
Both factions stick up for one another. I mean you and I both know toney242 has a freaking screw loose and rarely post anything that makes sense, yet demigod, adam, clay, xtra, g-man and the rest of the Halak clique, constantly stick up for him. It’s the way it is. I know I’ve defended chuck, andrew, tom, you and the rest of the Price clique. It’s sad in a way, that so many intelligent adults behave like junior high kids over one thing, who plays goal for the Montreal Canadiens. We could atleast be fighting over pretty girls, not 2 dudes. (-:
As one of the posters who wanted you to change your pic, I say thanks Adam. I like Tom, for the most part anyway, but he should not have brought your daughter into the discussion, it was uncalled for.
thumbs up to Mr. Tom, where’s Jerry? 🙂
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Nice one Adam!
And Adam going round-for-round with him the other day proved what? I’ve just about given up trying to shut up loony-bin Tony242 up with his crazy conspiracies already and he’s barely been here a month. If you can’t get along with Tom, just ignore him would be my advice, Adam thinks splashing his disagreement in a big post is going to solve anything he’s sorely mistaken.
Adam still has a weak leg to stand on from the maturity issue, the Price avatar was childish, fit for a 14-year old and he carried it for months and I find it hard to take him seriously if he thought that avatar was a reasonable way to complain about Price or just make a joke about a player on a team he cheers for. Tom can be annoying, but Adam had ways to take the high ground in this whole thing going back a long time, he’s been a jerk about the Price-Halak battle for a long time. Maybe I’m ore ready to defend a Price backer than a Halak guy, but that’s because I’ve grown tired of the arrogance of the Halak camp and using every tired, worn-out excuse about Halak’s ‘persecution’ and how Price just loitered to his 5th overall draft selection and his WJC and Calder Cup in 2007.
– I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
You don’t have to go back months, weeks, or even days. Look no further than the post Adam is referring to. Look at 90% of the threads Tom posts in. He is an ignorant, obnoxious, loud-mouthed hick. You are no better for defending him, and then claiming the moral high ground.
And that is all I have to say on the matter.
Good day to you.
I thinks its better if he plays with top notch talent in the KHL then agains players in AHL.
Avtsin is reportedly signed to play next year in the KHL, I suspect we won’t see him until the same time as Leblanc or Kristo iMO.
I’m more ready to defend a honest jerk than a hypocritical one, at least Tom is honest in his intentions, Adam pretends he’s better than Tom, but engages in juvenile behaviour regardless. I also have said Tom has gone too far in the past but I don’t feel like going back months of posts to find a specific example during all the Price-Halak wars.
Jason Arnott was acquired by the New Jersey Devils from the Nashville Predators on Saturday in a deal for right wing Matt Halischuk and a second-round draft pick in the 2011.
I am actually very excited to see what alexander Avtsyn can do and he said in an interview that his goal is to play in the nhl.
I like how you so flippantly admit that Tom goes too far, but never call Tom out on it – rather, you jump to his defence at the drop of a hat. Again, showing your hypocrisy.
Then why do you comment on it?
I like to call people out when they accuse others of being immature, but have left themselves open to criticism. Like Adam, who thought the whole Price avatar was either funny or proving some kind of point besides that he hated the guy.
Tom goes too far, but Adam leaves himself open to criticism. I don’t like people who put forth the illusion of taking the high road, but are ready to mud-sling when provoked because they think it’s now justified.
what does this have anythign to do with jaro halak being traded?
i didn’t know i was on a therapy forum.
You know Robert, for quite some time I wasn’t sure about you…you said some semi-intelligent things at times, and looked foolish at others. But now I am sure. You are a coward. The little man who hides behind the bully’s back (Tom Nickle, in this case), and talks big – but can’t do it alone.
Adam has a very good point. Tom runs around slinging insults at all who dare to question his omniscient opinions. It is childish, annoying, and in truth should not be allowed on this forum. How you constantly defend his actions while deriding what you consider the same actions in others is the height of hypocrisy.
Alas, if only Mike Milbury still had a GM job and a lottery pick.
I see what you’re saying.
Now I’ll do the typical HIO poster fallback and say “hey, let’s throw in the K bros and Hamrlik in there”.
Because everybody wants those guys.
Go Habs Go!
Avtsin unfortunately has the Russian factor attached to him and fear of him never crossing the Atlantic. They’d want a name like Leblanc, Kristo or the guy we just picked up, Eller. Hell, they might even be ballsy enough to talk Subban.
Perhaps. Maybe somebody would take Avstsin and a second or third rounder.
I think the Top 10 is pretty unreachable just offering picks, with the talent available there, they’ll want a sure fire prospect in addition to that.
I would love it if the Habs did something like trade the rights to Fischer (essencially a 2nd round pick next year), our first, and our third round to move up to 8 or 9 so we can pick up Nino Neiderreiter (sp?) who is a big, versatile forward that was nearly as good as Hall in the WJC for team Switzerland.
So says the adult who thought posting a picture of Price smoking a cigarette as his avatar proved a point or was funny. Don’t get into mud-slinging contests when you can’t prove your own maturity.
Eller is a top prospect and an AHL all-rookie allstar. He has size and skills. This distinguishes him from 100% of our other centers.
He’s probably going to make this team next year.
Schultz is a young up and coming tough guy with skills. He’s not going to score 50 a year but we needed size and toughness more than that anyways.
Gomez, potentially Pleks, Eller, Lapierre and Endqvist is a pretty good batch of centers for next year.
And Price will be OK.
So lets get excited about the draft and hope we trade Hamrlik.
price is only 22 and most hockey people i heard speak about price feel he has a lot of talent..we have to realize while the team had a great run in the playoffs it is not that good…it needs to upgrade around 8 players on the team …the team we had last year could easily loose to any of the other nhl teams in a playoff series…the hope is that our recent draft picks when they become 21-23 will be much better than the last group ..right now we have too many forwards on the team and in hamilton whose potential is to be checkers/grinders but produce between 5-8 goals a year..
I want an opening like this:
I’m calling out TomNickle:
“””This coming from someone who again, uses their child in an attempt to gain favour from fellow members.
Your child isn’t a shield against criticism. You start fights and run away. Everyone knows your MO Adam.
That’s why several people, not named Tom Nickle, have called for you to just go away or grow up.
I don’t get called immature or a child Adam. But you do on a regular basis.
Keep deflecting, maybe someday you’ll be a man, hopefully you can learn that children aren’t pawns that you use to gain favour. It’s pathetic. “””
I changed my profile as members of this board asked me to take away the photo of Price smoking. I did this out of respect. I replaced this with a family photo. I now see the Inside / out gremlins have switched it back to Price. I am not hiding or using her as a pawn. I can’t understand why you would say this. I stand by every single post – and am open to debate. These comments are disturbing, creepy, and void of any logic.
I will put my own photo up.
I do not start fights and run away. I have a young family, a full time job and a side consulting business. I simply do not have as much time as you to posts an average of 30 posts per day. Just a fact. Days I post – they are days away from the office. Maybe when I am older / retired or have less of a career. Also – so many posts get berried fast – hard to keep up when away from the computer.
90% of members of this board can debate someones ideas with out taking personal attacks. You can not, thus the reason why I call you out on your behavior. Now you are bringing my avatar into play (still don’t get this) and saying you have others who support your thesis that I am immature (I think I saw this on an old rerun of degrassi junior high when Author was trying to build support to win grade 7 president)
I summary – I hope you start acting like an adult. This is really all you have to change:
Debate the content, not the poster.
Good luck, Tom
For what it’s worth here are my two cents on the halak trade
With no doubt in my mind halak had a great season and playoffs, the washington series and pittsburgh series were something special. Although in the new cap era, whatever needed to be done, was done. I wander sometimes what we would have recieved in return for carey price? I highly doubt we would have received the same deal for halak. We in return got 2 prospects, 1 of them playing a full year in the AHL, and having himself a good season, showing promise of being a bottom 2 or possible top 2 forward. Another prospect going through the transition of WHL to AHL, and from the videos i’ve seen, he can certainly be a great enforcer, with some offensive upside, stat related.
It is sad to see halak go, and hopefully he will have another great season, and now that we have price coming in as a possible #1, lets all hope we will see the carey price of 2007-2008, this coming season, based on the contract negotiations i can see a 2 year deal in the works, which i think its completely reasonable to see where his career going.
But the interesting story is who is going to be backing him up? or someone having the possibilities of being a starter? i have a feeling this is going to be a very interesting draft and free agency day this summer, almost as exciteing as last years complete makeover. Getting really excited for next season and its only june.
When it comes to potential and or projections of NHL greatness, I am from the State of Missouri. SHOW ME!
Halak has proven over and over he can carry the load. Eller has not proven anything yet.
“Good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement.”
I think I want that music for the Habs goal celebration
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