Audio: Gauthier loads up on the blue line at NHL draft

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Canadiens head coach Jacques Martin with draft pick Olivier Archambault, No. 108 overall, on the draft floor Saturday.
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The Canadiens’ haul from the the NHL Entry draft in St. Paul, MN: five defencemen and two forwards.

The Habs made defenceman Nathan Beaulieu their first pick of the draft on Friday night. Here’s some video of Beaulieu following his selection.

On Saturday, the Canadiens traded down with Winnipeg, giving the Jets their third-round pick (No. 78 overall) for two fourth-round Winnipeg selections (Nos. 97 and 108).

Here’s the roundup of what the Canadiens ultimately did over two days.

Audio: Pierre Gauthier in English | In French

899 Comments

  1. HardHabits says:

    @hsf91: nice time check on the Nygren video

  2. Trisomy 21 says:

    So the Habs continue to pass up Canadian Anglophones for French Canadian, European and American hockey players. I guess Mckenzie did say Beaulieu was the best available player at the time.

  3. scrowe21 says:

    Pissed off that they passed on Zachary Yuen. Shoulda took Alexandre Grenier in the 3rd instead of trading down..

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      The Grenier video is impressive. I would have pulled the trigger too.

      ———————————
      Let’s do something like this again: 1) Petr Svoboda 1) Shayne Corson 2) Stephane Richer 3) Patrick Roy

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • HabitantQuebec says:

      That is exactly what i Said in my other posts! Quebec born power forward? Perfect for Habs!

    • Stuck_in_To. says:

      Hard to argue with you but I think PG was looking at the organization rather than the team. They are woefully low on parts and you never know what spare part will come in handy down the road. Then there is there is the idea that the more kicks at the can you take, the better your chances of nailing it.

    • scrowe21 says:

      Yeah..not much we can do but complain on here about it. Both Yuen and Grenier would have been much more exciting prospects than Didier and Archambault..

  4. Un Canadien errant says:

    We won’t know if this is a good draft for about five years, but we can always dream.

    If Beaulieu is a first pairing defenceman, and two more of these guys make the team, this will have been a success.

    The guy I’m most excited about is Prybil. A 6’3″ centre who can skate and score? Gimme more of that! If he pans out as advertised, he’s a steal in the 5th round.

    The pick I’m not crazy about is Archambault. Apparently the guy doesn’t have a great attitude in terms of his work ethic, and in terms of getting along with coaches and teammates. Ouch! Does our farm system need this guy? For a former #1 overall pick in the Q, let’s hope falling all the way down to the fourth round drills some sense into him.

    ———————————
    Let’s do something like this again: 1) Petr Svoboda 1) Shayne Corson 2) Stephane Richer 3) Patrick Roy

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

      6th round for Pribyl.

      As for Archambault, he seemed thrilled to get picked by the Habs. Sometimes, getting so close to a childhood dream could be enough to straighten him out. Also, we don’t know what the situation was in Val d’OR. Let’s see what this kid does in Drummondville.

    • Rats says:

      In regards to Archambault, the exact same thing was said (and confirmed) about Brad Marchand. If he can play then great we can only hope his head will come around.

  5. ProHabs says:

    “I probably wouldn’t have signed that deal if I knew I was going to be traded. When I signed that contract, I wanted to stay in Philadelphia for the rest of my career and that’s what I envisioned until this afternoon at 3 o’clock when I got the call.”

    – Los Angeles Kings center Mike Richards, who signed a 12-year, $69-million deal with Philadelphia in 2007, but was traded Thursday.

    Than you should have gotten a no-trade clause in your contract putz.

    • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

      He did, but it only started in 2012. Same for Carter. Holmgren dealt them both for huge returns before it became impossible for him to move them.

      • ProHabs says:

        Oh, I didn’t realize that. He is still a putz though

        • Malreg says:

          The reason their NTC’s only start in 2012 is because you have to be a certain age to be allowed to have a NTC. Apparently Holmgren promised them both they would not be traded before their NTC’s kicked in…

          I think that can hurt Philly’s reputation among free agents. Things like that do not go unnoticed with the players.

  6. HabFab says:

    Another way to gauge the draft today is that according to Central Scouting Rankings, the Habs got the ;
    5th, 65th, 75th, 108th and 138th ranked North American skaters PLUS the 46th ranked European skater.

  7. emann_222 says:

    So 5 D-Men, 1 Center and a LWinger. The year of the D for sure.

    I’m thrilled with the Beaulieu pick for a number of reasons (http://wp.me/p1n6pU-3I), and to be honest – I don’t know a whole lot about the rest.

    I’m a little surprised with the Olivier Archambault choice as our Winger. He’s another small body (NHL Draft Prospect Card has him listed at only 170LBS), but he’ll have time to add some size I’m sure. But he does have good numbers in the QMJHL.

    Does anyone have some first hand knowledge of the others? Would love to hear it.

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    • TomNickle says:

      Pribyl scored 3 points in 7 games against men with Sparta. His first call to the club.

      Scored pretty well with the junior club at over a point/game. I’ve read two scouting reports on him and they’re both glowing. The only knock that I saw was speed. If that’s the case he’ll probably end up being moved to the wing in this organization. Of course, he was drafted to the KHL and may never end up here.

      Archambault was the first overall pick of the QMJHL draft two years ago. He has talent out of the wazoo. Obviously needs to work on his defensive game and add strength. Lots of time for him to do it.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Biggest problem with Archambault from what I read is between his ears. He was a problem in the dressing room and with his coach. Off-ice discipline problems as well. A scout described him as lazy, another selfish.

        The article goes on to say that David Perron had the same rap, the Habs passed on him and now regret it, and they didn’t want to make the same mistake.

        He’ll have next year to polish his game and reputation with a new organization in Drummondville.

        http://ruefrontenac.com/sports/canadiens/38783-archambault

        ———————————
        Let’s do something like this again: 1) Petr Svoboda 1) Shayne Corson 2) Stephane Richer 3) Patrick Roy

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

      • emann_222 says:

        Thanks Tom – I was just looking over Pribyl’s stats with Sparta Jr. With 54 points in 39 games … pretty impressive. Actually – looking at all his stats with U18 Czech and U20 Czech – solid point player.

        You’re right though, we may never see him if decides to stay with the Severstal Cherepovets. Time will tell … should be interesting.

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        • TomNickle says:

          I don’t know if he’s signed a contract with them. They’re in some hot water right now because it appears their management team accepted money and gave certain players more than normal ice time in return.

          This is also the team that Maxim Trunev plays for.

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          Czech players aren’t as fond of the KHL as Russians are. In any case, it looks like this guy needs a lot of seasoning, so if he stays in Europe and plays in a men’s league, that might be better than coming over here and playing junior.

          ———————————
          Let’s do something like this again: 1) Petr Svoboda 1) Shayne Corson 2) Stephane Richer 3) Patrick Roy

          http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

      • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

        Apparently, he got called up for the relegation round and scored his 3 points in 4 games. Relegation round must be pretty high-pressure, especially for a young player like him. You definitely don’t want to be part of the reason a team gets relegated.

        I like the Pribyl pick a lot. Maybe we can get Plekanec to give him a call and congratulate him on being drafted. If Pleks gave him some words of encouragement and let him know how great it is to play on the Habs, it might give him a little extra motivation and couldn’t hurt.

    • mike3131 says:

      Watching those highlights, I’m very impressed by Beaulieu. He looks really big (bigger than 6’2) back there. He looks dominant with the puck and seems to excel at making that backdoor pass. Not to mention a great shot from the point. I was also quite disappointed that we didn’t get a big forward from the 1st round, however, I like this selection more and more by the minute.

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  8. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    I am not so down on these picks as some others seem to be.

    Beaulieu:
    Quality two-way defenseman who can skate, shoot, pass, hit and fight. Memorial Cup champion. Consistent. Rated higher than where we got him. Solid.

    Didier:
    Not too much is known, but he seems to have good size and can skate.

    Nygren:
    I like this pick. I know SeriousFan09 doesn’t like the idea of picking an overager, but maybe PG and Timmins felt someone might try to nab him in the late rounds, so they felt they could go for him with the extra 4th-rounder. This guy put up impressive numbers in the Swedish Elite League playing against men. He played on a championship team and got time on the 1st PP unit. He looks like he has a very quick release on his shot.

    Archambault:
    Local kid with skill who seems overjoyed to be picked by the Habs. Nothing wrong with that.

    Dietz:
    Very good size for such a young age, and seems to hit and not shy away from the fisticuffs. Could be a decent pick.

    Pribyl:
    Might be the steal of our draft. Has put up solid numbers wherever he’s gone. Has a very big frame at a young age and loads of skill and hockey IQ.

    Sullivan:
    Apparently one of the best skaters in the draft. In round 7, I’ll take it.

  9. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Nathan Beaulieu’s projected profile seems Serge Savardish …post-broken legs
    …and for those old-enough and lucky-enough to see Him play …THAT was still an ‘elite’ all-star level
    …if Beaulieu develops as projected, seeing Him with PK, a healthy Markov, Tinordi, and a possible (though long-shot) Wiz would be closest thing to the days of Robinson/Savard/Lapointe
    …Pribyl also seems intriguing
    …give Me a blend of passionate French-blood, Czech skill/hockey-smarts, Canadian backbone, and a dash of Russky/American Flash, and I become more confident for Our Habs future
    …it’s the French-blood We seem to be finally re-stocking that’s most encouraging
    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

    • HabitantQuebec says:

      Hi Habitant in Surrey, I couldnt agree with you any more – if skills allow it, ADD more Quebec born players to the team – just like the first 80 years of the Habs existence – decades they were succesful! A Real pitty the Habs gave up 3rd round for two 4th. They could have landed forward Alexandre Grenier at 6.5 200 lbs. A power forward from Quebec! Great match for the Habs! But didnt happen…. Terrible

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …I don’t know much about Grenier HQ, so I won’t second-guess PG …but I believe Our next Cup won’t be achieved without a core of from 4 to 6 solid Quebec/Francophone additions to Our Habs
        …I know Beaulieu is ironically an Ontario Anglophone (French Quebec-born dad and anglo-Ontarian mom) …but, he’s got His dad’s Quebec hockey genes streaming through Him :)

        Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
        http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

      • bwoar says:

        OMG you just figured out what’s been wrong with the Habs for 20 years! Without a power forward from Quebec we are doomed.

        Can you please alert someone in the media? It’s sad to think that with so many French-language publications in Quebec and so many sportswriters living there that not a single one has ever brought up this problem with the team before.

        Maybe if we can get all the Quebec-born media on board, we can start a campaign to get more homegrown players on the team, before it’s too late and it gets taken over by those dirty franco-ontarian guys. I’m sure that PG and JM are really plotting to destroy the team next year and trade all our best Quebecers to Tampa Bay!!!!!11111!!!!11!!

        • HabitantQuebec says:

          Hey Bwoar, if you would actually be able to read French, thats exactly what the media has been discussing! Get more Quebecers on the team – just like the time the team was winning cups!

          • shootdapuck says:

            and the fact that the first two Quebec born players were ceded to the Canadiens had nothing to do with that success?

            … the fans of the Boston Bruins now have lost forever any right to complain that “the league” is out to get their team, and that the Montreal Canadiens have some kind of pull inside the NHL home office.

            Charles P. Pierce – Boston Globe

          • HardHabits says:

            @shootdapuck: you’re spouting myths….

            the first two Quebec born players thing had zero impact on the Habs

          • Mike D says:

            Poor little fella. That one went right over your little tête, didn’t it?

            – Honestly yours

        • shootdapuck says:

          Whether they used it or not it was there and no myth.

          Better check how Houle, Tardif, Plasse ended up with the Canadiens!

          The “myth” officially and finally ended in 1969.

          … the fans of the Boston Bruins now have lost forever any right to complain that “the league” is out to get their team, and that the Montreal Canadiens have some kind of pull inside the NHL home office.

          Charles P. Pierce – Boston Globe

  10. Habby says:

    So now that we have some (hopefully) good D prospects, can we move on to improving our current and future offensive production? Offensively skilled D are great but you also need forwards who can score. How many times did we win last year when the other team scored first? Once, against Boston. Out of at least 20+ games that I can recall right now. Fact is we need to score more. If the Habs don’t successfully address this need we can forget about Cups and parades.

    So is there anyone we can realistically get who can help us out here? (By realistically I mean someone who we can afford and would be able to produce under the Habs system in case it wasn’t obvious.)

    The drive for 25 is alive!

  11. habs001 says:

    both the stanley cup finalist could have lost in the first round as both series were 7 games and o/t…in todays nhl you have to build a team that makes the playoffs and after it is usually a toss up…the habs once in the playoff can win any series but just as easily can be beaten by most teams …there will be very few elite teams in the nhl and when they do exist they wont last long…
    if a team gets really lucky and picks star after star player for 3 years in the draft and also gets players that become stars thru trades they can only keep them for a while as they all will demand large salaries(may happen to the oilers…) in the present nhl system it may be better not the select too many top players but balance it with lesser solid players but not starts…hopefully this sytem will change one day so super teams can exist…

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Yah end of day, the salary cap has essentially ruled out the pure dynasty as we once knew it. Granted if any franchise has been close to dynasty it is Detroit. Not only do they continually find talent which they cultivate, but they have created that team atmosphere where players take haircuts to stay on the team. Alot like what the New England Patriots have done.

      I really like how cohesive our team has become. seeing players like Markov wanting to stay, Gill wants to stay, Hamrlik really wants to stay (i recognize this may not be in our best interests) but there is a real strong team bond on this team forming.

      • TomNickle says:

        If the Red Wings don’t start making some serious moves toward an infusion of youth, they’re going to bottom out.

      • dasbooth says:

        Awesome point about people wanting to play in MTL – I was thinking the same thing this morning. I remember how excited Cammy was to come to MTl and has appeared to be since coming here. The days of getting dissed by Briere etc… appear to be over.

        Love that Markov is back, and basically told Meehan to get a deal done with Habs, if he plays close to what is expected of him he will be a steal.

        “Shutouts are really more of a team stat” – Carey Price

  12. TomNickle says:

    I wasn’t very impressed that the Habs only drafted two forwards this year. That was until I looked at the forwards that they drafted.

    Some very interesting picks this year.

  13. HabinBurlington says:

    So the Ryan Smyth trade is apparantly still being held up, due to the injury/health status of Gilbert Brule. This trade was reported almost as done to Calgary, then done to Edmonton and now its sketchy. Have to believe somehow LA is going to end up shipping him to Edmonton though.

    • TomNickle says:

      Very disappointed in Ryan Smyth. I didn’t think he had this diva act in him.

      • SmartDog says:

        Don’t judge him by this. Smyth’s been a good soldier his whole career. You never know what’s going on – he may have strong personal reasons to want to go back now.
        Look at Carter and Richards. The teams will do what they want with players when they can. It’s fair that the players do what they can too.

      • Malreg says:

        He asked to be traded back Edmonton, or as close as possible, for family reasons.

    • TorontoHabsFan says:

      I’m guessing that with the Tanguay signing, that Calgary is out of the running for Smyth. If LA wants to unload him, they’ll have to go with Edmonton.

      Apparently Brule was just going to be bought out anyways (but the NHL has a rule against buying out injured players).

      Can’t see how this isn’t going to happen eventually.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        As Tom refers to with this diva act, i have since heard Ryan Smyth put the ixnay on Calgary with his NTC. He basically has a stuck a gun to LA’s head and said trade to me to Edmonton.

  14. TorontoHabsFan says:

    From what I’ve read of these picks, I’m pretty happy. Not that I know whether there were other players that they should have taken – we won’t know that for a couple years at least.

    The only flub is the overage defender. I agree with SF09 here – better to take the chance that he won’t get picked by another team and hope to sign him to a contract instead of drafting him.

    But the French kid? Archambault is it? Actually is that Acadien? Anyways…he was drafted 1st overall in the Q right? Well that’s gotta mean he’s at least a good prospect right?

    And this Czech kid’s write ups have been very compelling..

    Looking forward to seeing these guys develop!

    • TomNickle says:

      Archambault has a very nice skill set. Just has a lot to work on. All of it can be coached fortunately.

      I knew very little about Daniel Pribyl prior to today but he appears to be a very solid pick considering he had a cup of coffee with men and did quite well.

      He was also drafted to the KHL, his development could take an interesting path.

  15. Malreg says:

    From Dobber’s Fantasy Prospects Report 2011 :

    Daniel Pribyl, RW
    2010-11 Team: Sparta U20 (Czech U20)
    For 6’3, 189 lbs power forward Daniel Pribyl, getting knocked out of the playoffs early might have been the best thing that could have happened to his career. Eighth in Czech U20 scoring with 58 points in 41 games, Pribyl earned a three-game call-up to the Sparta senior team in January but went pointless in limited action. Enter the postseason.
    Headlining a deep and talented Sparta junior club, Pribyl and his team were expected to make a run all the way to the U20 Finals. However, that dream came to an abrupt end in the semi-finals. Despite pulling a Jonathan Toews and scoring on three consecutive shoot-out attempts in the final game of the series, Pribyl and Sparta were knocked out by Karlovy Vary. Impressed by the youngster’s confidence, HC Sparta Praha head coach Miloslav Hořava called
    up Pribyl for the relegation round, and the rest- as they say- is history. Pribyl tallied two goals and an assist in four games- and should have had even more. According to one Czech media report, he was not credited with an assist on a deserving play in a game against Brno. That same report called his points “Canadian”. Blessed with tremendous stickhandling ability and a non-stop motor, Pribyl is a raw but intriguing talent. A capable skater at full-speed, he will need to improve on his first few steps to be as good as he can possibly be.
    Upside: Top-six power forward, 30-35-65
    Projected Round: Round 6

    • TomNickle says:

      He and Archambault are very intriguing prospects. This could be a homerun class or a mediocre class. Pribyl seems to have fallen under the radar much like Avtsin did.

  16. Bill says:

    Draft day criticism is hilarious. A bunch of people with limited knowledge of professional hockey praising or slamming selections of players they know pretty much nothing about: obviously I include myself in this category.

    But seriously, I’ve read a lot of disgusted posts from people who base their criticism on the listed height and weight of a player they’ve never seen. It’s pretty humorous.

    One player I have seen a lot of is Beaulieu, and I agree with HH: he’s as much a lock to make the pros as he can be. Sure, things happen, but he does too many things too well and has no obvious critical shortcomings: he can skate, pass, score, hit, fight … he might be the second best all-round D in the draft, after Larsson. He’ll do another year of junior, a year in Hamilton, and should be ready to make the Habs in 2013-2014.

    I know absolutely nothing about the other players, except what I’ve read, and I don’t believe most of what I read … so like any ignorant person with no good information, I will have to wait and see.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • TomNickle says:

      I especially like the criticisms of Olivier Archambault. He’s a water bug on the ice and his big knock is that he needs to add strength. Obviously adding strength can’t hurt a kid like that, but players who get labelled water bugs are usually pretty tough to get your hands on. It’s not like beefing up to a Jordan Tootoo level is going to improve his chances anymore.

    • habs-hampton says:

      I hear ya Bill. But, I’m a little ticked off. For the 33rd straight year I’ve been passed over by the Habs. I’m 6’3″, 205, but if the weathers is good this summer and I go to enough BBQ’s I could be 225 by training camp. I’m a forward that will go to net, and I promise to be satisfied with only $550,000 per year.

      I’m just what all you armchair QB’s are looking for.

      Oh well, maybe next year PG will notice me.

    • habsfansince91 says:

      good post. The only weakness I’ve read about Beaulieu is that his shot isn’t that accurate and that his defensive game is average. If those are his only weaknesses then we’ve got ourselves a solid player.

      • TomNickle says:

        His shot is very accurate, it’s the timing of it. He takes a very long backswing and often doesn’t get it off because of the length of time he takes in doing it.

        • habscout says:

          Gee, a very long backswing ? That sounds just like PK. My *only* criticism of Subban last season was that he took *way* too long on his slapshots, and many of them were deflected because the opponents had ample time to get in the path.

          I like the choice of Beaulieu, although I was secretly hoping they would select a big center with some offensive skill like McNeil, who went to Chicago the pick immediately after the Habs selected Beaulieu. :-(

          “His shot is very accurate, it’s the timing of it. He takes a very long backswing and often doesn’t get it off because of the length of time he takes in doing it.”

    • habs-hampton says:

      Repost:

      I’ve seen Beaulieu play many times in the last 3 years. I don’t quite get the PK comparison. He’s not flashy and his end-to-end rushes don’t get you out of your seat like PK. He is smooth, confident, and makes good decisions with the puck. He is not as risky with the puck. He’s tall and will get heavier. I’ve been saying all year, that of all of the Seadogs in Saint John (including Huberdeau and Depres), he’ll be the best pro in 5-6 years. (time will tell).

      • TomNickle says:

        Subban wasn’t flashy in his first couple of years of junior either. He really started to blossom in his last couple of years in junior and in the WJC tournaments.

    • HabitantQuebec says:

      Hey smart Alec aka Bill – what are you really here for yourself?

  17. Dave says:

    @ HardHabits

    No player is ” a lock ” to make the NHL . These are all still kids .

    As for the Bulldogs being ” a difficult team to score against for the next decade. “…….lol ……do you think these guys are goign to spend the rest of their life playhing in the HAL with Hamnilton ? They will either graduatre to the NHL or become UFA and the Habs will lose them ….players don’t stay with the same tteam for 10 years

    .lol

  18. ZepFan2 says:

    From Beaulieau’s profile under Favourites:

    Goal celebration: “Bow and arrow”

    Another disrespectful Habs D-man. Richards will be happy. :razz:

    Btw Nathan, that move is already spoken for.

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    • HabitantQuebec says:

      Has no one wondered how the Habs Can Trade away their 3rd round Pick for two 4th round!? Its like trading caviar for potato chips! To make things worse, the Quebec born power forward Alexandre Grenier at 6.5 and 200 lbs was drafted in the 3rd round after the Habs planned 3rd round pick! The perfect combination – big guy with skill, a power forward and even from the Q! A better match for the Habs is hardly found. Instead we ended up with a bag of potato chips! Aaaaaah!

  19. HardHabits says:

    1 NATHAN BEAULIEU D CA 6′ 1″ 179 QMJHL SAINT JOHN
    4 JOSIAH DIDIER D US 6′ 2″ 199 USHL CEDAR RAPIDS
    4 MAGNUS NYGREN D SE 6′ 1″ 191 SWEDEN FARJESTAD
    5 DARREN DIETZ D CA 6′ 1″ 193 WHL SASKATOON
    7 COLIN SULLIVAN D US 6′ 1″ 196 HIGH-CT AVON OLD FARMS

    4 OLIVIER ARCHAMBAULT LW CA 5′ 11″ 176 QMJHL VAL-D’OR
    6 DANIEL PRIBYL C CZ 6′ 3″ 189 CZREP-JR. SPARTA JR.

    Looks like the Habs are hedging their bets with defensemen, all with ample size. BEAULIEU is a lock to make the NHL. If any of the other 4 graduate then all the better. I suspect the thinking is they monitor them closely and if the opportunity arises develop them in a system that is strong defensively. The Bulldogs will be a difficult team to score against for the next decade.

    ARCHAMBAULT is a small player albeit quebecois, from the Q, another Gabriel Dumont. Meh.

    However the sleeper in this draft I believe is DANIEL PRIBYL. He could turn out to be this draft’s hidden late round gem.

    • GrimJim says:

      FYI in 2009 Mtl took 5 centres, 1 PF out of 8 picks. In 2007 they took 6D out of 9 picks. And out of their last 20 picks only 4 have been under 6′

      • HardHabits says:

        Seismic shift. It’s the reality. Boston and Philadelphia aren’t going away. The road to Stanley passes through at least one if not both those teams.

        It appears Montreal’s strategy is build from the net out, a team consisting of puck moving defensemen and two-way forwards, add to that a towering defenseman or two, a few small, speedy forwards. Build, rebuild, repeat.

        Somewhere along the way something’s got to give. By that I mean a bona fide 30-40 goal scorer coming from the draft.

        • Bill says:

          Not gonna get a bona fide 30-40 goal man in the draft unless (a) you get one of the top three picks or (b) you get insanely lucky.

          The best way to get one is by free agency. The easiest way to get one is by pending-UFA rental, but it costs. The other way is a straight-up trade for a player under contract long-term … and that costs big.

          I personally think Cammalleri and Gionta are 30-goal scorers, and Kostitsyn and Pacioretty have the potential. They haven’t been doing it, but I think that’s really a function of The System.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

          • HardHabits says:

            I’d be happy with a 20-30 goal forward right about now.

            JM said last summer that they were going to work on offense. I think the idea is that with the blue-line contributing more points it’ll open up space for the forwards to add more as well.

            That’s if the forwards have enough in them after all the back checking they do to limit the opposition from scoring.

            The Habs strategy:
            Defense that crashes the net.
            Forwards that clear the net.
            A goal-tender that makes that first outlet pass.

          • issie74 says:

            HH Better hope Cammy and Gio pick up their point production then.

            Start burying all those opportunities in front of the open net.

            NorthTOHab

    • habsfansince91 says:

      one thing I like about the defensemen we drafted is that they can all skate well

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Now I’ve seen Beaulieu listed at 6’1, 6’2 and 6’3….

      Hockey DB:
      Nathan Beaulieu
      Defense
      Born Dec 5 1992 — Strathroy, ONT
      Height 6.03 — Weight 191 — Shoots L

    • HabitantQuebec says:

      Well the Habs made a terrible dicision when they Traded their 3rd round Pick for two 4th rounders. The could have picked a potential power forward from Quebec – Alexandre Grenier! Terrible decision!

  20. Can somebody post all the Habs picks in this year draft. Just getting home from a 12 Hr shift. Looking forward to it. Thanks

  21. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    Say what you will, but this Archambault kid looks absolutely thrilled to be drafted by the Habs. That puts a smile on my face.

    I look forward to seeing how he does with Drummondville next year.

  22. SmartDog says:

    DAMN! Taking all these defensemen makes no sense.
    So you take a high-prospect D in the first round, why would you not then stock up on forward prospects. We NEED forwards. And D-men typically take longer to mature. So we’re picking up guys that take longer to mature for a position where we are well stocked with top young talent. Meanwhile, we STILL lack big centers and big forwards. Why would you not prioritize that?
    WTF Habs, WTF??

    • patience is a virtue says:

      The VAST majority of the players drafted from somewhere in the second round on will never become NHLers.

      So, the goal is to do your best to pick ones that just might. If you get lucky/are very astute = score. Then you have an addition to your team, or an asset that can be traded.

      So, you don’t worry too much about the position they play and just try to pick guys (i.e. the BPA) that you think might actually make the show after 3-5 years of development.

      • SmartDog says:

        I know this.
        Which is why you have to hedge your bets in the late rounds. So why not stock up on big forwards and centers. Unless you only scouted late round defensemen. Wouldn’t you rather have 4-5 late round big F&C on the chance one develops into a Datsyuk?
        .

        • patience is a virtue says:

          Because you stock up on BPAs. Period.

          Whoever your scouts have decided is the player most likely to eventually make the NHL, you pick that guy and pray. What position he plays is absolutely secondary because the chances are slim that ANYONE you pick has a chance of making it. So, you pick the guy you think/hope might and be happy if he does, and trade him for someone/something else if you don’t happen to need a player at his position 3-5 (or 7) years from now when he is ready, or close to ready, for the show.

    • A. Berke says:

      SD,
      I think I’ve just figured out what is JM, PG & Timmins’ recipe for success. They are stocking up the team with D-men (I must note that I like Beaulieu) so that the team can dress 2 goalies, 20 D-men + Gomer to win each and every game!!

      Ali B.

  23. Un Canadien errant says:

    Skill Testing Question:

    Who is the most overpaid but talented hockey player that Florida would pick up before they even thought of Gomez or Spacek?

    I vote for Roberto Luongo, a former Panther whose wife is from Florida and spends most of her time there, instead of Vancouver. I think Roberto might welcome a change of scenery.

    ———————————
    Let’s do something like this again: 1) Petr Svoboda 1) Shayne Corson 2) Stephane Richer 3) Patrick Roy

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Duracell3 says:

      He seems to dislike losing and getting shelled every game, so I don’t think so. He also has a full NTC.

      • savethepuck says:

        Being shelled every game early in his career is the reason he is as rich as he is today.

        “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        The NTC is to protect the player, so he doesn’t end up in Buffalo or Winnipeg. He’ll waive it if it means he goes somewhere he would like to play.

        Luongo has had an uneasy relationship with the fans and media here in Vancouver. If you think Montreal fans are fickle, Vancouver’s are worse, forever jumping off or climbing back on the bandwagon.

        His marital status has always been something that has been discussed in hushed tones here. He married a South Beach hottie, and apparently she wasn’t happy that he had to move as far from Florida as he could go and yet still be in the NHL. Before he signed the long-term deal, there was real fear that he would walk as a free agent to be closer to her. She had never fully moved to Raincouver, spending most of her time in Florida with her parents and the rest of her family.

        After the debacle in the playoffs this year, I can see the team and Roberto mutually agreeing to a parting of the ways.

        ———————————
        Let’s do something like this again: 1) Petr Svoboda 1) Shayne Corson 2) Stephane Richer 3) Patrick Roy

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

        • savethepuck says:

          ” If you think Montreal fans are fickle, Vancouver’s are worse.”

          There is no way in hell that statement can be true. We have more what have you done for me today, that what have you done for me yesterday fans than anyone.

          Don’t you read comments on this site?

          “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            I’ve lived in Montreal and also BC, and I’ll stand by my statement.

            There are a lot of fair weather fans out here, casual hockey fans who don’t necessarily play or know very much about hockey, but everyone claims to be a Canuck fan and goes to the bar to watch games.

            It’s my impression, maybe Habitant In Surrey has an opinion?

            ———————————
            Let’s do something like this again: 1) Petr Svoboda 1) Shayne Corson 2) Stephane Richer 3) Patrick Roy

            http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

      But they have Markstrom who is supposed to be a quality goaltending prospect who isn’t signed until he’s 43 years old.

      I understand that Gomez sucks and all, but he still addresses a need down the middle for Florida and is only signed for 3 more years. At that time, some of their young players will have developed, and they can use Gomez’s money to fill some holes with UFAs.

      Bottom line, they need to hit the cap floor THIS year. In 3 years, they might not have such a problem and will want the cap space. Luongo doesn’t give them that option.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I still say Luongo.

        What about you guys? Which ‘untradeable’ contract will the Panthers take on before they would even think of Gomez or Spacek?

        Wade Redden?

        Sheldon Souray?

        Jeff Finger?

        Phil Kessel?

        ———————————
        Let’s do something like this again: 1) Petr Svoboda 1) Shayne Corson 2) Stephane Richer 3) Patrick Roy

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

        • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

          I think they would take Spacek or Gomez over any of the first 3. I don’t think Burke will ever trade Kessel, considering how much he gave up for him.

    • SmartDog says:

      The Nucks won’t trade Luongo.
      And I’m not a Luongo fan – always said he was over-rated and unreliable. But his playoff shut-outs suggest he CAN get the job done and he wasn’t the only wavering talent in an almost successful cup run. Nucks will give him another year or two to find stability under pressure before bailing on him.

    • JF says:

      Luongo’s contract is longer than they’d want. The advantage of Gomez for them is that the contract would help them reach the cap floor while saving them some serious coin for three years, by which time some of their younger players would be ready.

  24. TorontoHabsFan says:

    LA Kings win the Best Name of the Draft by taking, with the 200th selection, Michael Schumacher!

  25. Bugs says:

    They call’m “Puerco” Pribyl in Spartak Pravba (or whatever).
    Do the research don’t believe me!

    Gone figuratively fishin filibusts L. B. Potter, esq.

  26. 24 Cups says:

    All of the player movements of the past few days make sense (or can be rationalized) except one – the five year extension for Tanguay. Calgary fans are going to find it pretty tough to watch the Oliers rise from the dead in a year or two. The Flames should have gone for a total reno but have instead fallen back to their old ways. So much for a management change.

  27. shootdapuck says:

    Timmins goes back to his roots and picks another Prep-School player!

    How many of those have panned out?

    … the fans of the Boston Bruins now have lost forever any right to complain that “the league” is out to get their team, and that the Montreal Canadiens have some kind of pull inside the NHL home office.

    Charles P. Pierce – Boston Globe

    • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

      How many 7th rounders pan out?

      • newbrunswick troy says:

        if they,re is any yhey are all REd Wings….that team has the history for being able to grab diamonds in the late rounds!!

      • shootdapuck says:

        Why bother and pay the development money for something that has slim to none chance of success?

        History on these Prep-School players and their desire(or lack thereof) to play pro-hockey can’t be ignored! No hunger there!

        How many Russians got drafted? Without a transfer agreement little to no chance of success there too.

        … the fans of the Boston Bruins now have lost forever any right to complain that “the league” is out to get their team, and that the Montreal Canadiens have some kind of pull inside the NHL home office.

        Charles P. Pierce – Boston Globe

      • GrimJim says:

        Zetterburg was a 7th round, so was Doug Gilmour. Markov and Halak were sixth round. Hasak was 10th round

        • shootdapuck says:

          None came from a Prep-School program!

          … the fans of the Boston Bruins now have lost forever any right to complain that “the league” is out to get their team, and that the Montreal Canadiens have some kind of pull inside the NHL home office.

          Charles P. Pierce – Boston Globe

          • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

            Chill out dude. He is going to Yale next year. I know it’s not necessarily a hockey hotbed, but we really don’t know what this guy’s desire is.

            If Timmins liked him, there must have been a reason. In the 7th round, there is no risk. I have read that he is one of the fastest skaters in the draft. If you can get one of the fastest skaters in the 7th round, that’s decent. If he pans out, great. If he doesn’t, it’s not a big deal.

      • TorontoHabsFan says:

        That actually kinda interested me – so I went and took a look at hockeydb.com. Turns out that more players come from the last round than you’d expect. I suspect it has something to do with the High Risk/High Reward principle that SeriousFan09 speaks of. That is, you don’t go “safe” with your last pick – he’s either going to become something if he can fix whatever flaws exist in his game, or he’s going to amount to nothing.

        2010 – No games played yet
        2009 – No games played yet
        2008 – Anders Lindback, Jason Demers
        2007 – Carl Gunnarsson
        2006 – Derek Dorsett, Benn Ferriero, Eric Condra
        2005 – Sergei Kostitsyn, Anton Stralman, Kyle Cumiskey, Patric Honrqvist
        2004 (Rd 9) – Mark Streit, Daniel Winnik, Grant Clitsome, Jannik Hansen
        2003 (Rd 9) – Matt Moulson, Tanner Glass, Jaro Halak, Nick Tarnasky, Brian Elliot
        2002 (Rd 9) – Adam Burish, Jonathan Ericsson
        2001 (Rd 9) – P-A Parenteau, Ivan Majesky
        2000 (Rd 9) – Nobody you’ve ever heard of. Nobody played a full season.

  28. mike3131 says:

    …aaaaand another D!

    ♪ And we’re livin’ here in Allentown… ♪

  29. Habs_4_ever says:

    Is it over yet?????

  30. TorontoHabsFan says:

    So what happens if a player isn’t drafted. Is it like the NFL where teams hold open tryouts and players show up and show their stuff?

    Or can they be invited to those development camp deals that teams hold in the summer?

    Or do teams just sign players they might like to minor league deals to play for them in the ECHL or a similar league?

    • GrimJim says:

      Yes to options two or three. I think the CBA regulates how many development camps you can have. You can also invite try-outs to the main camp in September but no “try-out camps”

    • Duracell3 says:

      Well since they’re still young they’ll continue to play for whatever Junior team they play for now likely.

      They don’t have open tryouts to NHL teams. The developmental camps are by invitation, and undrafted players (after the draft) are somewhat rare but they do happen. After Junior as you said they will go for AHL, ECHL, CHL, SPHL, European, etc contracts, or if they are playing Teir II or Junior B hope to play for a college.

      • TorontoHabsFan says:

        So it’s entirely possible for a team to not select a player in the 7th round if they anticipate no else will, then turn around and offer him a tryout in development camp?

        • Duracell3 says:

          Yep, but so does everyone else, and if they don’t sign him, he’s open game to be drafted or sign the next year to my understanding. Also if its from the CHL, there are some rules about AHL eligibility that Im sure you know of.

          • TorontoHabsFan says:

            True. But I can see a situation where in the last two rounds you like 3 players. You draft two of them knowing that you will have exclusive rights to them, and then hope that the 3rd player will accept your invitation to camp.

            I wonder, is there anything preventing a team from walking up to that 3rd player (in this scenario) right after the draft and offering him a minor league contract? I know it’s a bit weird as teams usually take some time to see their picks play a year before signing them to a contract. But say there’s a raw, blue chip offensive prospect that you like – can you give him a $50k contract to play in the minors?

          • Duracell3 says:

            There might be stipulations concerning their ability to play in the AHL, but I think you could sign them to the ECHL hassle free actually, although as a GM I would not want to do that to an 18 year old, and as ECHL players get paid very little I doubt you’d find too many good enough to have a real interest in who would also want to do that. I couldn’t find anything in the CBA on a quick search saying you can’t, so I suppose you could sign them to a 2/3(?) way NHL contract and assign them to the ECHL, although I feel like the AHL rule might somehow apply and I’m reading the english version CBA wrong

          • TorontoHabsFan says:

            I suspect you’re right. If only because there’s no way I’m the first person to ever think of it :D

            thanks for the illumination!

            cheers!

  31. HardHabits says:

    Comments are frazzled?

  32. Thomas Le Fan says:

    Why do I get the impression that if a fairy godmother allowed us to obtain the picks and draft the first 30 players, some fans would still be unhappy with who we did and didn’t take? And woe be to the G.M. if one of those picks turned out to be a bust! :D

    • habitual says:

      No kidding. Whining and moaning about no size, no this no that, without any basis for understanding why players are chosen, or passed over.

    • savethepuck says:

      Because this is a Habs fans site.

      “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

      • habitual says:

        That doesn’t mean thought should be absent.

        • savethepuck says:

          We have the best hockey fans in the world, but unfortunately we have to take with that the most idiotic hockey fans in the world too( albeit a smaller percentage, they seem to be the one’s that stand out embarrassing the rest of us).
          That’s what I meant.

          “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

  33. EricInStL says:

    I just hope this is not 2003 all over again.

  34. mike3131 says:

    Fun fact: If we trade Gomez and Spacek to FLA for a pick, FLA will still have $30 M in cap space.

    ♪ And we’re livin’ here in Allentown… ♪

    • _Habsoloutly_ says:

      At the moment Florida is 24 million below the cap floor. I expect Tallon to be doing some wheeling and dealing when free agency starts. If Gomez and Spacek were any good he might consider getting them, but they both suck so I seriously doubt he would do that.

    • Habs fan in SF says:

      if i was a GM there are “better” overpaid players i’d rather seek (to fill the cap bottom) than gomez. we are stuck with him. lets hope he turns it up a notch. which leads me to ask, certain pro athletes either lose it or lose motivation after signing the big contract. perfect example here in my neck of the woods is barry zito for the giants

    • Mike D says:

      Not completely out of the realm of possibility. I doubt Tallon would take both but I could see him maybe taking one of them depending on what happens July 1st. A longshot surely, but not impossible.

      I’m sure they could use an experienced Center or Dman to help some of their youngsters along, and they do need to hit the cap floor at least.

      – Honestly yours

    • mike3131 says:

      Just pointin’ it out. Personally, I’d be looking to trade Spacek before Gomez.

      ♪ And we’re livin’ here in Allentown… ♪

    • habitat says:

      We have a lot d men with this draft, Gauthier might be packaging a trade with some D prospects with Gomez – Let the party begin.

    • savethepuck says:

      If Gomez is traded, we need someone to take his position now, we are not a rebuilding team. Who do you suggest.

      “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

      • mike3131 says:

        I think DD is capable. Put him on 2nd line between Gio and Max. Send AK to the 3rd line and sign a Brooks Laich type to play with Cammy and Plecks.

        ♪ And we’re livin’ here in Allentown… ♪

        • savethepuck says:

          I’m thinking that based on the last few games of the playoffs, they may have plans to move DD to the wing.

          “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      The trade would look something like this: Gomez and Spacek are traded to Florida, and in return the Canadiens send the Panthers our 2012 1st rounder and Weber. That might be a reasonable deal.

      ———————————
      Let’s do something like this again: 1) Petr Svoboda 1) Shayne Corson 2) Stephane Richer 3) Patrick Roy

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      The way Spacek was talking after the season I don’t expect him to retire, but if he did his team would get to count his full cap-hit less $100,000, and they wouldn’t have to pay him anything. Are their any players in the league on +35 contracts who plan to retire? If there are, one would think teams like the Panthers are going to grab them to reach the cap floor.

      * Ville Leino would make Sergei Samsonov look like Alex Kovalev *

  35. 24 Cups says:

    It’s now official, the Calgary Flames traded Robyn Regehr, Ales Kotalik plus a second-round pick to the Buffalo Sabres for Chris Butler and Paul Byron. Smyth goes to Edmonton for Brule and a 5th rounder. God help us if the Habs had chosen Brule (or Pouliot, as planned) over Price.

  36. Un Canadien errant says:

    Huzzah, finally the Canadiens draft a forward with size who can score! We haven’t seen that since Doug Wickenheiser. Well, maybe Bobby Smith or Pierre Turgeon….

    Now everyone get off Mr. Gauthier and Mr. Timmins’ backs.

    from: http://dansallows.com/interview-daniel-pribyl/

    It is easy to see why Sparta’s Daniel Přibyl should intrigue some NHL scouts come draft time, as the 18-year-old is blessed with tremendous size at 6-foot-3, 190-pounds and excellent offensive instincts.

    ———————————
    Let’s do something like this again: 1) Petr Svoboda 1) Shayne Corson 2) Stephane Richer 3) Patrick Roy

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  37. The Habs are clearly rebuilding this team from the Goalie out. We already have a world class goalie in Price. In a few years we will have an all world blue line as well. Get used to winning games 1-0, 2-0 or 2-1. This system paid off for NJ for years and threw Marty Brodeur right into the discussion of greatest goalies of all time. It might not be the most exciting brand of hockey on the planet but it’s effective and gets the job done.

  38. mike3131 says:

    Finally a big centre! Decent production (54 pts in 39 GP). Could be a steal…

    ♪ And we’re livin’ here in Allentown… ♪

  39. habitual says:

    Here is an assessment of Nygren, from Elite ProProspects:

    A skilled and mobile defenceman that shoots right. Is a power play specialist with a very good release, good passing game and above average hockey sense. Handles the puck with confidence and usually puts up good numbers. Is fairly good defensively, although there is some room for improvement.

  40. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    With their 6th round pick, the Habs select 18-year old Czech Centre Daniel Pribyl. He is 6’3 189 and shoots right. He had 25G, 29A in 39GP for Sparta Jr. of the Czech Junior league.

  41. Un Canadien errant says:

    Huzzah! A large centreman with skill at last. We haven’t seen that since Doug Wickenheiser.

    Now everyone get off Mr. Gauthier and Timmins’ back.

    http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=101160

    http://dansallows.com/interview-daniel-pribyl/

    ———————————
    Let’s do something like this again: 1) Petr Svoboda 1) Shayne Corson 2) Stephane Richer 3) Patrick Roy

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  42. Chris F says:

    I donèt mind the first round selection, the D for the future looks bright. Pk, Tinordi, Beaulieu.
    However, I feel completely frustrated at the apparent lack of imagination to re-acquire a second round pick. There were so many quality power-forwards available. Max-Pac has proven how important this role is. I’m tired of the constant reluctance to admit were tooooooo small. Players have started to ask for help, but management chooses to ignore it. We lost because were too small to get to the net and creat space, we lost in game seven and people seem happy that we did the best against the eventual champ. That’s pathetic. If we were stronger, we could have won in five or six games.
    Players like Seth Ambroz seemed like a great gamble to take, what’s wrong with being 6’2″, 211 lbs as a 19 year old?????
    Someone tell me why 29 other teams value size and strength.
    How many battles have we lost in our own end, or the offensive end because the opponents players were simply bigger, stronger, more physically dominant??
    It’s frustrating, I love watching skill, but when it turns ugly next year in Boston, and it will, why do we have the skate off the ice with our tails between our legs thinking “skill” will win out in the end. Guess what, the Gooins won, they hurt us, laughed at us, injured our only power forward, and therefore beat us.
    I just don’t believe in PG, I don’t believe in his plan. Beaulieu is fine, I’m sure he’s skilled, and a great kid. But in the second round we should have tried to do something, anything, that sends some type of message admitting WE ARE TOO SMALL!!!!!
    I just don’t agree with there choices across the board.
    Maybe PG has a plan for July 1st, but I highly doubt it. Maybe he’ll do something at the trade deadline, maybe next years draft, maybe, maybe, maybe.

    • Habs fan in SF says:

      good post. exactly what i am thinking.

      • Habs fan in SF says:

        i have no complaints about Beaulieu. i firmly believe in taking the best available guy available. i heard he was predicted to be a near the top 10. so at 17, we did pretty good i guess? then again, pouliot was a 4th overall pick so it’s all a crapshoot. i just wish we’d address our need for rugged tough in your face thorns in your side guys who can drop the gloves and who can also play a shift (not talking goons). i think these guys exist in the mid-to-later rounds, perhaps

        • GrimJim says:

          The thing is, though, is our need for a power forward is immediate. We need another top-6 big body for this season. The draft is about 3 years down the road. Any PF we sign during free agency will want a 3-5 year contract, so he will be with us when these guys are pushing to get in.

    • shootdapuck says:

      Goatier will trot out his favorite sound bite; “we like our team” as justification for another post round 1 draft flop.

      … the fans of the Boston Bruins now have lost forever any right to complain that “the league” is out to get their team, and that the Montreal Canadiens have some kind of pull inside the NHL home office.

      Charles P. Pierce – Boston Globe

    • ProHabs says:

      Awesome post. We are going to lose Wizneiwski for absolutely nothing. The team has been giving up assets for nothing for the last 8 years.
      As for playing the Bruins, of course it is going to get ugly next year. And there will be abolutely nothing (again) the players can do about it. It is embaressing and very hard for us fans to see our players go though the physical punishement of the Bruins and just take it. Wake up Gauthier, get the team some f’in size.

      • habitual says:

        We are not going to “lose” the Wiz. Detroit publicly stated that they have an interest in Wiz – so of course he is not going to sign with the Habs before trying out the free agent market.

        It never was just Marky or Wiz, and it never was Marky for three years at 5.7, when we could have offered that deal to Wiz. Wiz will be looking for a long term contract with big numbers. That should be obvious to all the posters who keep complaining we haven’t signed him.

    • savethepuck says:

      Can you tell me who was available in the second round to step in next year when ” it turns ugly in Boston next year”. I don’t think there were any first rounders fitting that description that are NHL ready.

      “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

      • Chris F says:

        Really, that’s not the point. If the draft is about building for the future, the team must make picks to set the team up for the future. Do you think Boston will be a small team in 3-4 years??
        By picking some size in this draft, it simply offers some hope that we’ll be able to handle punishment in the years to come. Did you see who Boston chose with their pick?
        I realise the 11′ draft picks will probably not play for three years. But I just believe that under this regime, in three years, we will still be too small to compete deep into the playoffs. And who knows, a guys who is 6’2″, 210lbs may be ready in two years, and this would help the current group. Maybe that player becomes the missing piece. But I can gaurantee you that a guy 5’11”, 185 who still takes three or four years to develop, is not what this team needs now, or in the future.

  43. Habs_4_ever says:

    Four D-men already…. Is there something we don’t know???
    But at least the one forward we picked so far is a towering 5′ 11″ .

    • patience is a virtue says:

      Ya, there is something we don’t know: details about these players that would help us evaluate the wisdom of Timmin’s choices.

      If lower round picks turn out to be NHLers they can be traded for other assets.

      After the first, maybe second, round the draft is all about trying to pick that unlikely winner who will develop into an NHLer. Their position is secondary, perhaps with the exception of goalies.

      • Habs_4_ever says:

        So what your saying is that we’re drafting trade-bait. ; )

        I understand that some of our D-men will need to be replaced in the near future, but I feel that our needs are up front and wish that PG would concentrate on that.

        • patience is a virtue says:

          No, what I’m saying is that the VAST majority of the players drafted from somewhere in the second round on will never become NHLers.

          So, the goal is to do your best to pick ones that just might. If you get lucky/are very astute, score. Then you have an addition to your team, or an asset that can be traded.

          So, you don’t worry too much about the position they play and just try to pick the guys that you think might actually make the show after 3-5 years of development.

  44. GrimJim says:

    Fearless prediction: a goalie in round 6

  45. Bill says:

    For anyone who wanted the Habs to pick a scrapper, this guy Dietz is a pretty formidable light-heavyweight. And he will go with anyone and hold his own. CHeck out his fight against much-bigger Austin Connor (6’4″, 230): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv-sgV516A0

    I’m against fighting and the likelihood of a 4th rounder making the NHL is slim, but I’m just trying to make some of you happy :)

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  46. savethepuck says:

    If anyone wants a good laugh, here are the results of a poll on NHL.com. I guess the “we’ll gettem next year Leafs” fans can’t read scouting reports. They have Tyler Biggs out in front.

    ”Which late first-round pick can make the NHL jump next year?

    Joel Armia (BUF): 23.50 %
    Nathan Beaulieu (MTL): 22.37
    %Stefan Noesen (OTT): 9.82 %
    Tyler Biggs (TOR): 28.43 %
    Zack Phillips (MIN): 15.88 %

    “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Maybe when the leaf fans heard he was going to Miami of Ohio, they thought Bettman had just awarded that city a pro franchise in the NHL just to groom Maple Leaf forwards….

    • Mike D says:

      a la Stone Cold Steve Austin:

      “And that’s the bottom line, cuz Brian Burke said so!” :-D

      – Honestly yours

    • Rugger says:

      Well, he would be playing for the Leaf’s so the hurdle to jump to the NHL there is not that big,

    • J_P says:

      Apparently there’s some habs fans responding that are smoking a little something-something. Markov, Gorges, PK, Gill, Spacek, Yemelin, and we’re offering a contract to the Hamr. I fail to see how Beaulieu has any chance of making the habs next season.

      Tyler Biggs definitely has a better chance of making the leafs than beaulieu has of making the habs.

      • savethepuck says:

        To be honest I clicked Beaulieu because I think you have to pick someone to view the results. Didn’t mean I think he’s NHL ready just that I didn’t know what else to do.

        “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

    • issie74 says:

      The fans are not allowed to disrupt interviews … throw waffles on the ice … or disagree with BB …,so what will they come up with next.

      NorthTOHab

  47. Bill says:

    Picking only defensemen is probably a good strategy, considering the Habs have done much better developing Dmen than forwards :) They can groom all these guys into superstars and trade a couple for a centre, haha.

    Or maybe JM told PG about his brilliant plan to play five D on the ice at all times.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • habsfansince91 says:

      I don’t have a problem with the habs drafting Dmen but next years draft is supposed to be deep in defensemen.

    • Habs fan in SF says:

      we wasted our pick with David Fischer. we traded away Ryan McDonagh. yeah, besides PK (2nd rounder = lucky he was available) we really have not drafted well in the defense category. markov was a 6th rounder and pretty much everyone else on our D has been via trades. yet, we’ve focused on the “D” for years and years. remember david wilkie? brent bilodeau? i repeat DAVID FISCHER? why not change it up and draft a big center? am i out of my mind? too needy? i need a hug

  48. eric says:

    pick 138 is another d-man

  49. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    Geez…the Habs took another D. Darren Dietz of the WHL.

    I can hear the whining already.

  50. Habs fan in SF says:

    this guy rules! the best interview yet. a finnish guy with a french accent (pointed out by NHL network commentators). he’s refreshing to see talk. he actually has personality. and he gave positive remarks towards marc denis and guy carbonneau over at chicoutimi

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospectdetail.htm?dpid=9803

  51. Mike D says:

    scrowe21, looks like Columbus just picked your boy Ambroz. Sorry bud.

    Any particular reason you like the kid?

    – Honestly yours

    • Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

      Probably likes him because he’s a big forward. However, from what I have read, he is a bad skater and often finds himself trailing the play. There are also concerns about his work ethic. He was rated in the top 60, but fell to the 5th round, so I guess there must be something that scared scouts off.

    • scrowe21 says:

      With 3 picks in the 4th round I was just hoping they would pick him up. He’s a gritty player with some size and fights for his teammates. Not a great skill set, but I think he’ll definitely make the NHL as a Ryan White type player. Not so sure about this Archambault kid..

      Similar to Biggs, I was terrified Montreal was gunna pick him in the first..but I woulda had no problem with it in the 4th.

    • Mad Habber says:

      big power forward with skill. A few years ago he was projected as a potental high first rounder.

  52. mike3131 says:

    I’m not watching anymore. Can’t stand the way NHL Network is broadcasting it. Is there any other live blog or channel/station I can tune in?

    ♪ And we’re livin’ here in Allentown… ♪

  53. HabinBurlington says:

    Brendan Shanahan is expected to announce shortly after the draft, that in an effort to reduce headshots and slow the play down, all teams must play 3 defencemen on the ice at all times.

    • Mike D says:

      Someone must’ve leaked this info to PG before the draft started ;-)

      – Honestly yours

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Damn. That means we have to see Weber on the 4th line again.

      Can’t believe Calgary just signed Tanguay for five years. Pretty risky for a guy who’s had injuries and up and down numbers in his career.
      3.5 million isn’t awful I guess…?

      • Mike D says:

        I think it’s pretty damn awful. Not so much the 3.5mil per year, but the number of years. He had a great year last season but you had to know he was playing for a bigger contract (which he clearly got).

        Given his past inconsitency, a long-term deal might mean less fire under his arse to produce as well as he did and an increased chance he’ll become another lazy overpaid player with talent. They would have been much better off giving him 2-3 years at the same 3.5mil per, or maybe even a bit more. Just my opinion anyway.

        – Honestly yours

      • Rugger says:

        Couple of questions, is the Tanguay deal flat pay over the 5 years and is Calgary one of the teams that needs to get up to the cap minimum?

        • Mike D says:

          Don’t know the structure of Tang’s contract, but Calgary WAS one of those teams that was actually close to the cap ceiling. Although moving Regehr likely helped them a lot in that department.

          – Honestly yours

          • Rugger says:

            Well there goes that theory, guess they are just brain dead in the flames front office.

        • Un Canadien errant says:

          Calgary was right up to the cap all last year, the common wisdom was that Sutter got them an old, slow, expensive team. That’s one of the reasons they traded away Regher.

          ———————————
          Let’s do something like this again: 1) Petr Svoboda 1) Shayne Corson 2) Stephane Richer 3) Patrick Roy

          http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

      • 1010 says:

        Money is reasonable…but the term is crazy. For some reason some of these GM’s keep handing them out tho.

        GO HABS…

  54. Un Canadien errant says:

    Funny how Didier was touted as an offensive defenceman and a PP quarterback, but got to college and is now seen as a defensive D who saw lots of PK time. Probably will get a chance to show that offensive side as he matures and the game slows down for him at Div. 1 college level.

    ———————————
    Let’s do something like this again: 1) Petr Svoboda 1) Shayne Corson 2) Stephane Richer 3) Patrick Roy

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  55. Mike D says:

    And yet another Defenseman with our last 4th round pick, 113th overall:

    113 MTL MAGNUS NYGREN D 6′ 1″ 191 SWEDEN FARJESTAD

    – Honestly yours

  56. Talik Sanis says:

    Ranked at 69 on the Scouting Report.

    From thescoutingreport.org:

    Former top pick in the QMJHL Draft took some positive steps forward this season with an increased opportunity. Archambault isn’t an overwhelming player but does a lot of little things well to be a dangerous presence on the ice. Pretty strong for his size, and manages to find some space on the ice despite not having high-end speed. He does a good job of finding opportunities to create offense and should continue to develop over the next couple of years.

  57. Mike D says:

    While I doubt the Habs are doing it on purpose (or at least I hope they’re not), they’re gonna get flamed for picking all these players with french names.

    With the 108 pick, Habs select:

    OLIVIER ARCHAMBAULT LW 5′ 11″ 176 QMJHL VAL-D’OR

    – Honestly yours

  58. scrowe21 says:

    For gods sake please take Ambroz next pick..

    • Stuck_in_To. says:

      and http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/olivier_archambault

      love the “water bug on ice” description. I am sure many will be happy to imagine a relatively small and speedy forward has been drafted by the Habs.

      • Rugger says:

        5’11” at 18 is relatively small?

        • Stuck_in_To. says:

          First time poster? ; )

          The link provided suggests he is / was 5’10 and 165 lbs. Given that most posters here want a 6’2 and 200 lbs + smashmouth power forward goal scoring battering ram, yeah, kinda small.

          Louis Leblanc small.

          But this post comes from a Habs fan whose two favourite Habs are Saku Koivu and Mats Naslund so take it all with a grain of salt.

          • Rugger says:

            NHL.com lists him at 5-11 and heavier. I am aware that many posters want nothing shorter than Chara, that doesn’t mean we all have to be blind to reality. And by the way the little Viking was always one of my favorites as well.

          • Stuck_in_To. says:

            Yeah, I saw that the other link has him a little bigger. Really, I was just trying to poke a little fun at the size-ists on this site. Cheers.

  59. Un Canadien errant says:

    Relax guys, yeah he’s a D, but at this point they’re all projects. Just get the guy you think will develop the best, I don’t care if he’s a goalie or D or LW or checking centre. This is for three years down the road, lots can happen by then.

    ———————————
    Let’s do something like this again: 1) Petr Svoboda 1) Shayne Corson 2) Stephane Richer 3) Patrick Roy

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  60. scrowe21 says:

    Shoulda took LaBate.. smh.

  61. Un Canadien errant says:

    Info on Josiah Didier, Habs’ 4th round pick.

    http://letsgodu.blogspot.com/2011/06/josiah-didier-may-surprise-in-nhl-draft.html

    ———————————
    Let’s do something like this again: 1) Petr Svoboda 1) Shayne Corson 2) Stephane Richer 3) Patrick Roy

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  62. HardHabits says:

    Josiah Didier

    from the scouting report dot com:

    At this point, Didier does not look like a sure-fire NHL draft pick. However, he brings enough to the table to merit a close watch. He has a perfect frame with long arms and legs and covers so much ice with his body. He has very strong skating techniques and moves well laterally as well as getting from point A to point B to retrieve loose pucks. Didier is very strong on the puck and saw tons of PK duty on the Cedar Rapids blueline. He reads the play well and puts himself in the right spots. Didier has a long reach and poke checks pucks with ease. The question marks in his game are his offensive skills. He’s very composed and patient with the puck and clearly looks to move it quickly. His pro prospects will be determined on how much more he can enhance those skills at Denver University. It will also be interesting to see how he progresses during the season. I’ll be getting another live look in March.

    • SmartDog says:

      Given how good the Habs are at developing talent, this should be a good pick.
      If all goes to plan, we’ll develop him until he’s 21 or 22 and then dump him for nothing on another team to finish the job.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Doesn’t matter. If JM is still there by then it’ll mean he won us a cup.

        Win/Win.

      • HardHabits says:

        Nice cynicism. I have little chance of cornering that market here. ;-)

        How about this. The Habs develop defensemen over the course of the next few years so well that they’ll manage to trade one or two in a few years for a 40 goal scoring #1 centre.

  63. Talik Sanis says:

    And the devils get Reid Boucher. Unfortunate.

  64. adam76 says:

    Trade coming.

  65. savethepuck says:

    Josiah Didier another DMan

    “That beautiful bastard scored semi-conscious.” On the Rocket’s Game 7 game winning goal against the Bruin’s April, 1952

  66. Mike D says:

    Habs just picked D Josiah Didier with the 97th overall pick.

    JOSIAH DIDIER D 6′ 2″ 199 USHL CEDAR RAPIDS

    – Honestly yours

  67. RGM says:

    Josiah Didier? He barely knows her!

    During the long summer, we all get to be pretend GM.

  68. scrowe21 says:

    Another defensman? Wtf?

  69. Stuck_in_To. says:

    They took another D.

  70. scrowe21 says:

    Hoping they take Seth Ambroz this round with one of their picks..


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