Gauthier does some signing … but not what we’re waiting for

Pierre Gauthier has announced six appointments.  

Serge Boisvert and Ryan Jankowski will join the Canadiens’ amateur scouting group. Vaughn Karpan becomes a professional scout, and Christer Rockstrom will assume scouting duties for European leagues as of September 1st.

It is important to note that Boisvert will be a full-time Quebec scout, replacing part-timers Denis Morel and Michel Boucher.

At the administrative level, the team announced the appointment of Ken Morin as hockey information coordinator. This is an entry-level scouting position. Morin will analyze video and coaching trends, passing the fruits of his labour on to Gauthier.

And as HIO reported last week, Pierre Allard becomes the Canadiens’ new strength and conditioning coach.

Serge Boisvert joined the Canadiens in 2009 as a consultant in player development. The former right winger played with the Canadiens from 1984 to 1988, and was a member of the 1986 Stanley Cup Championship team.

Ryan Jankowski was employed by the New York Islanders as assistant general manager and director of amateur scouting since 2006. He joined the Islanders as amateur scout in 2002, before spending three years in Prague as the team’s Director of European scouting.

Vaughn Karpan  becomes professional scout following five years as part of the Canadiens’ amateur scouting group. He joined the Canadiens in 2005, after spending several seasons as Chief Scout for the Phoenix Coyotes and the Winnipeg Jets

Christer Rockstrom  was a member of the New York Rangers organization for the past 21 years, including the past five seasons as Director of Player Personnel – Europe. He previously served as a European scout for the Rangers for 16 years. He also covered part of Europe as a scout for the Detroit Red Wings organization, from 1984 to 1989.

Ken Morin is the former captain of the McGill Redmen hockey team, where he earned a degree in Industrial Relations. Last season, he played as a defenseman with the CIS Royal Military College team, and the Bakersfield Condors in the ECHL.

337 Comments

  1. mbplekfan says:

    I highly doubt Price is holding out. I dont think his agent is that stupid.

    Carey doesnt have the leverage or reputation to hold out without damaging his character and getting pasted with the problem player label.

    A new contract is likely signed and will be announced closer to training camp to maximize coverage and ramp up excitement about the upcoming season. An announcement now serves no purpose and gets lost in the summer doldrums.

  2. G-Man says:

    Signing Price and trading Halak could have been done at the same time. But then, Goatier had other fish to fry, like signing Laps ahead of the new #1 goalie. Doh!

  3. soperman says:

    Two points:

    First, the Huffington Post is a right-wing (politically) rag that would not know the definition of “cool”.

    Second, note that they say “If your idea of Canada is dominated by maple syrup, hockey, flannel shirts or the G-20 Summit, it’s time to discover Toronto as the new capital of Cool.”  Obviously they know that Toronto has very little to do with hockey.

    ——————————————————————–

    They traded Halak. Jaroslav Halak. YOU ARE KIDDING ME?

  4. Exit716 says:

    Why would Price not want to play for the most knowledgeable and supportive fans in the NHL?

     

  5. avatar_58 says:

    Half caf, no caf de-caf latte eh?

  6. lenny says:

    Maybe price is fishin and huntin and his cell is out of service, thus he cant speak to his agent and agree to the deal on the table?

  7. Mark C says:

    Ok fine, first let me address what you just wrote. There was urgency in moving Halak, if the decision was made to move a goalie. Now, if they wanted to keep both goalies that’s fine. However, the longer the team would wait to make a trade, the smaller that market would get. On July 1st, 3 teams addressed their goalie situation, meaning it is likely the market decreased by 3 available trading partners.

    Price is not holding out, and by no means do you *know* that he will sign for more than Halak, that’s just speculation on your part.

    Cons for signing Price and then Trading Halak:

    1) Market size, as stated above, the earlier a trade is made, the larger the available market. In theory this should maximize the return.

    2) This whole theory of signing Price before trading Halak is based on the assumption that the team could sign Price quick. However, why would Price and his agent want to sign quickly? Based on logic and negotiation strategy, the only way to get the Price camp to sign early is to meet or exceed their initial contract demands (which would be at their highest point).

    3) After signing Price early, teams would know Montreal was trading Halak, because there is no reason to believe he would be willing to re-sign in Montreal.  This would likely decrease Montreal’s trading position.

    In the end, this theory means Montreal overpays for Price and receives less in return for Halak. I don’t know what the right way would have been; no one does for certain, but make no mistake there are pros and cons to both.

     

  8. Jordio-oh says:

    But Toronto is the new capital of cool : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lauri-lyons/toronto-rises-as-the-new_b_632271.html

    I like Toronto, and this publication, but it could have been better written. That and Montreal is cooler than Toronto. But most of us already were aware of this.

  9. slamtherimtim says:

    just like kovey he deserves whats due , PG traded halak knowing what ever any team did the habs can still match any offer or take picks , but halsk looks worse as the days go by

  10. crabvader says:

    Whoever banned Tony242, callyjo, etc…

    I’m sure you realize this is the same guy, right?

    Either way… You were complaining when we fired our scouts that it was a bad move and that we didn’t have enough.

    Now that we hire some, you try to find some other way to complain about it. Go rest your head on a pillow and examine your severe mental incapacitation.

  11. andrewberkshire says:

    So is every other marquee RFA that isn’t arbitration eligible also pining for an offer sheet? Because none of them have signed.

  12. Bugs says:

    A qualifying offer?

    How much?

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  13. andrewberkshire says:

    You forgot 88 points and 47%

  14. Bugs says:

    Go back to Toranna, leafer.

    Show us how it’s done over there; you champions, you.

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  15. Rugger says:

    How do you know price is holding out, have the Habs actually offered him a contract to sign?  So much speculation, so few facts (not specifically you, but every discussion about Price).

  16. Psycho29 says:

    More Cushenan for the Pushenan….

  17. LA Loyalist says:

    The net challenge (sorry for the joke) is that we’ve empowered Price’s side by not having Halak in hand. That’s all. It’s business 101. It’s like you don’t buy a new house until you’ve sold the one you’ve got. 

    The only argument I’ve heard here that MAY win out in the end is that they were so high on Eller and were concerned to lose him. Maybe. But I’m not sitting feeling excited about next year. I’m freaking terrified, if you want to know the truth, because I don’t see a plan. Pls explain the plan if there is one. 

    thanks!

  18. lenny says:

    has anyone thought that maybe Price does not one to sign with the habs? Maybe he is praying for a qualifying offer from another club….he knows that if he doesnt get off to a good start the fans here will go nuts

  19. JIMVINNY says:

    Troll alert.

  20. andrewberkshire says:

    No rush to trade Halak? How many teams in the NHL right now have no pinned down starting goalie for next season? There absolutely was a rush to trade Halak.

  21. lenny says:

    he wants a gurantee on being number 1  from Halak…wait a second….

  22. Fire_Laraque says:

    Pouette Pouette pouette.

  23. Fire_Laraque says:

    It’s the only explanation that I can think of actually.  Ellers was so high on their list they couldn’t waste time or didn’t want to lose him by waiting it out.

     

    As for the negotiations part, I fully understand that.  I’m not trying to make a big deal out of it.  For me, it’s just the order of things (Moving Halak before signing Price) that baffles me.

     

    P.S I’m not saying I don’t like Price, only saying management is making everything REALLY difficult for him.

  24. Bugs says:

    He’s waiting for what we’re all waiting for: a good Price.

    Haw!

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  25. Bugs says:

    Half double decaffeinated half-caf for me, please. With moka sprinkle.

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  26. Aaron13 says:

    When does training camp begin? I wonder what Price is waiting for.

  27. Rudy says:

    That’s so mean for those of us who can only get Starbucks.   :(

  28. Bugs says:

    Because Gauthier will answer “The Priceberg has always been a priority with this organization since the day he was drafted. We believe he will have a great career in the NHL and will bring success to this organization for a long period of time. That meant moving Halak for a player that we’ve coveted for a long time. We wanted Eller. A Blackhawk? Like who? Giroux? Never heard of’m. We wanted Eller. St-Louie had’m. We felt that was the best move for this organizaton. Now, these negotiations with the Priceberg are just par for the course, a natural give’n’take between a team and an agent. Very normal. But the media wants to make a big story out of this during the slow period of hockey season for obvious reasons and that’s normal too and we respect that. But the truth is, both sides want to make the best decision for both sides and these proceedings are very normal and really, a non-issue. Thank-you.”

    On the other note, Gauthier is vegan? Aw, hell… Honest, I didn’t know that. … This is not good. Still, maybe we can work something out… Crap, this is no good…

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  29. Fire_Laraque says:

    Ok, you got me there.

     

    First of all, there was no urgency in moving Halak.  Being over cap is fine until the season beggins.  Now look what is happening.  Price is holding out because he knows Gauthier is in it deep if he doesn’t sign him.  He will also get a bigger salary this year then Halak’s 2.75.

     

    Now, explain slowly and give me a real argument, not just “There was a lot of cons” without naming one.

  30. bwoar says:

    The NHLPA agreed to the CBA, which allows teams to send players to be sent down to clear cap space.  The Rangers gave him that crap-pile of cash in good faith that he wouldn’t be a bag of dog’s dorks costing them 6.5m on the cap until 2013-14.  It’s in the game, as EA says.  Same as on the flipside for Ilya K.

    At least he’ll be going to a league where he’ll look good on the ice.

  31. Mark C says:

    There was no “right’ way to make that move. There are a lot of cons involved if the plan was to move Price before trading Halak.

  32. Bugs says:

    What did I say?

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  33. avatar_58 says:

    Large double double plz

  34. Fire_Laraque says:

    Boone,  anyone,

    Can someone explain to me why everybody knows and writes in the papers that Gauthier made a Mickey Mouse move by moving Halak before signing Price but Gauthier is not confronted in interviews?  I mean, the guy is a vegan, he can’t be that impressive.

     

    On another note.  My friend went to a concert at the Bell center a few weeks back and there was trouble with the electricity.  I repeat, a MUSICAL concert.  And the people in the crowd started chanting : “HALAK, HALAK, HALAK”

    I sure hope Price doesn’t sign for more then 2.75 Mills ’cause he’s going to have a rough year in Montreal.

  35. Chuck says:

    Ok, who’s making a Timmy’s run?

  36. LA Loyalist says:

    it’s easy to be impressed with someone’s moves when no chickens have come home to roost yet, and g*d knows I hope this all works out – but trading Halak for an unknown (who may or may not work out, I have no opinion on the player per se) BEFORE signing Price was something a first year business student would not have done. Maybe Halak had to go, that’s another argument, and probably we should have got much more for him (another argument) but the way it was done was pure incompetence and does not inspire faith in these subsequent decisions.

    Sorry. Hope I’m wrong. I agree with you about Kirk Muller, if Martin stumbles thank goodness we have him.

    “to failing hands we’ve passed the torch…”

  37. TripleX says:

     

    True he still gets paid.  But he has to ride the buses in Hartford and suffer the humiliation of playing in the minor pro league.

    From the player’s union standpoint, they might say he signed an NHL contract in good faith and it is not his fault that the Rangers are in cap problems.

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  38. HabFanSince72 says:

    Same deal? All the rights for free?

     

  39. avatar_58 says:

    Regardless – Hamrlik plays here next year. It won’t change.

  40. Exit716 says:

    Redden will still get paid his money if its in the AHL or ECHL.

  41. The Teacher says:

    That was funny :)

  42. TripleX says:

    Arpon Basu is speculating that with only 1.5 million left to sign Marc Staal it is all but a given that Wade Redden is going down to the AHL.

    This could be the impetus other GM’s have needed to send their high priced veterans down.  Wonder if the new CBA will prevent this from happening in the future, some of the veterans with big contracts must be worried.

     

     

    “And I am really looking forward to watching Michael Cammalleri in the NHL. He had an awesome year in the AHL.” PIERRE McGUIRE

  43. The Teacher says:

    lol!! SOMEBODY is trying a new tactic lol!

  44. TorontoHabsFan says:

    as Tony/calljo/ian cush has informed us MANY times…it’s spelled “incompetant”

     

    :)

  45. TorontoHabsFan says:

    nicely done :)

  46. SLONCOLD says:

    so define heart…

    is heart a player who cares versus someone who doesnt?

    what defines AK as being heartless? can you honestly tell me with certainty he doesn’t care about hocley or winning or about his team mates?

    heart become much less of an issue when you’re producing and winning. As far as SJ goes, they got beat by teams that were better prepared than they were.

  47. Bob Barker says:

    Rangers only signed Frolov so they can trade him to the Habs (e5). 

  48. puck face says:

    i often wonder if i’m bored or is this site making me bored. sometimes i come on HIO , read a few posts then a couple of hours later i wake up with QWERTY stamped on my forhead. the journalism side of the site is good though.

  49. Bugs says:

    Conference Final incompetent, that, they are.

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  50. puck face says:

    actually when i was in the scouts summer was a very busy time for us , we did a lot of scouting and none of us were ever fired.

  51. habstrinifan says:

    SIGNINGS!

    Pierre Gauthier is impressing me more and more. He decides where he wants to make changes, gives those affected their walking papers early so that they can find other jobs and has gone about replacing them either on a one for one basis or with some alteration of job(s) description to suit his design. I think GOOD so far. He seems to have a comprehensive plan for the organization. And the fact that most of the signings are ‘en bloc’ is, to me, a good method. It’s as if he is assembling a ‘project’ team and not filling positions. Great management style for an environment which must focus on deliverables.

    The one fly in the ointment.  Price.  Recent signings around the league now serve to direct the perplexed glare of concern to the Price situation. And it is because Gauthier does not seem to be a man who dithers that I think the holdup is coming from the palyer’s side.

    As I have posted before I am afraid that this may not end well. But I am getting more optimistic that Gauthier already has thought of ALL possibilities and will act with conviction SOON!.

    One of the clues to the astuteness of Gauthier is the fact that Muller is still the assistant coach and not in Hamilton. There were of course many factors but I like to think that Gauthier saw the invaluable contribution of Muller during the playoffs run and the players’ response. I dont think that , without Muller,  Martin would have been as successful in taking the team to the conference finals.

    I am giving our GM A’s … so far! Let’s see him deal with the next big task as well.

     

  52. nightmare_49 says:

       NHL Return to ESPN a Possibility / Blueshirt Banter

      http://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2010/7/27/1589019/nhl-return-to-espn-a-possibility

      The NHL’s TV contract with Versus and NBC expires after the 2010-2011 season, that is known. What is not known, however, is where the NHL will wind up after the contract expires. According to Sports Business Daily, ESPN is interested in bringing the NHL back to their networks, including ABC

  53. Storm Man says:

    The ESPN fantasy  (HIO Habs fans only league) draft day is thu July 29 12pm EST 12 teams if I need to make more room I can it is free to play and will do the same for Hockey also. See you at the draft and you need to email me for the private pass code. FYI this is a football draft so no fighting on who drafts Price ;)

  54. mike g says:

    Heart is the reason why the SJ Sharks never won anything, despite their immense talents…

    Heart is the reason why AK46 doesn’t score 30 goals per year…

    Heart is the reason why Alexei Yashin left the NHL 9 years too early, despite his immense talent.

    Heart is the reason why the 6 foot 5 Victor Kozlov left the NHL, even though he had hand of gold and was strong as a beast.

    Ask any coach who’s ever coached NHL superstars, and they’ll all pick a player with decent skill and a ton of heart, over a guy like Frolov. In the end, there’s a reason why alot of guys never win a Cup. Ask Jonathan Toews what heart is, and then ask Frolov. You will understand which one is a winner just by thier answers.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  55. zozotheclown says:

    Bored? Check this non hockey related game out

    http://en.akinator.com/

    This program plays 20 questions with you and will guess damn near anyone. He got Price and Halak, guess who did better :P

  56. crabvader says:

    To those lacking natural skill, heart is what makes you better. It’s what makes you improve and makes you a better hockey player/human being.

     

  57. nightmare_49 says:

       It’s offical, Frolov signs with Rangers for 3 million on a one year contract.

       Matt Moulson signed a one year 2.45 million contract with the Islanders.

  58. SLONCOLD says:

     i love how everyone here talks about “heart” in a player…. the thing about heart is, it means very little at the end of the day, you need to have the talent; heart doesn’t make a top corner shot, make u play your angles properly, make crsip passes, talent does.

    depends what you define as heart too.

  59. Rugger says:

    I would do it.

  60. crabvader says:

    Yann Danis to the KHL.

     

  61. Storm Man says:

    It is a free league. I will see how much intrest I get could be a 10 team league or 20 it will be a private HIO league.

  62. sholi2000.com says:

    Very happy.  I’m tired of disgruntled Russians in the NHL.  Listen to this guy, he says One more year in the NHL.  Who wants someone who’s dedication could be for another continent.

    The Rags are a perfect for him.  Just another Zherdev.  So much talent, so little character.

    They Call Me Shane

  63. TorontoHabsFan says:

    My word, they *actually* went out and hired some scouts to replace the ones they let go? AND they did it during the off-season when scouts aren’t doin’ much scoutin’ anyway?

     

    butbutbut I thought they weren’t going to replace the fired coaches because PG/BG is INCOMPETANT!!!!1!!

     

    will our resident doom and gloomers give their required mea culpas? I’m not holding my breath.

  64. Maffu says:

    I’m interested, will get on the website sometime this week. Anything else to know StormMan?

  65. TomNickle says:

    And it will be Price going the other way.

    I’m sure that his daily rumour will be Price and a 2nd to Edmonton for Cogliano or Price and a 1st to Columbus for Filatov.

  66. SeriousFan09 says:

    Having put up with Frolov to the Habs rumours for what seems like 2 years, glad to see this one finally out of our hair. Still, I’m sure Eklund has us in the hunt for Brule and Cogliano more than ever (snicker).

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  67. mike g says:

    So…..

    Anyone else happy that Frolov is apparently signing with NYR?

    I couldn’t take those rumors about him having discussed with the Habs. I know they’re just rumors, but if there was one overpriced, overhyped, and overrated/heartless player that I didn’t want the Habs to sign this year, it was Frolov.

    Hope he signs in NYR. Seems like a good fit since Glen always manages to sign wastes of talent like him.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  68. mike g says:

    Tell me where I buy my season tickets..

    I’ll be 1st in line.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  69. Mr-T says:

    It ludicrous to think that Halaks trade value or response to him being on the market is improbable or diminishes based solely by your attempt to imply directly or indirectly that any interest or a trade was contingent on or in any way influenced by the number of other major player trades before on or after July 01 is incomprehensible. Whatever was on the agenda of any GM during this period is totally inconsequential. If a team was interested in getting Halak if he was put out there by the Habs and that any activitiy or lack of it would even be of any concern or of remote interest to them or in any way devalue his financial worth is preposterous. What has the choice of Eller got to due with their draft pick unless your trying to say if Montreal traded for their 1st round pick that they would have taken Runblad and that the deal for Eller is a better choice[ because he was a higher ranked prospect. Which means very little if you can not compete at the NHL level and being highly rated is no guarantee] and/or is it by position the player the Habs need more than a d-man.            

    That was the idea to the trade in giving the Habs the opportunity to negotiate and try to sign one or both before July 01. When it comes to been drafted in the 5th or 7th round there is no quantitative research or qualitative analysis to a players eventual productivity in the remote possibility of even playing in the NHL. It is a roll of the dice and there is no upgrade to something that is of little intrinsic value in the first place.                                      

    If Montreal received a 1st and 3rd pick as compensation is it not a bit presumptuous to indicate that they would be less likely to get a player[s] as good or better then the two of them and been NHL ready is still a unknown for Eller and Schultz is definitately AHL bound. What if St. Louis finished in last place then where is the basis for that theory. Is Boyd more qualified then Moore or just younger and cheaper, not a fair trade-off if that is the case . Where did PG gain a measure of youth and toughness. Not to a particular position but to the greater balance of the team and to what extent has Gauthier improved the team. Can the Habs provide a sustainable higher level of play or do you see a vast change that no one else perceives.

    Good analysis of the Plekanec contract.                                       

     

  70. matmacat says:

    good god. let’s bring back a MLB team here.

  71. Storm Man says:

    It’s full now lol does not take long but go to the site and if I have alot of intrest I will do a private HIO league can do one with 10 teams or 20 teams and it will be in a draft format.

  72. TomNickle says:

    When’s the draft?

  73. Storm Man says:

    If anyone here wants to play ESPN fantasy football  the league name is gurus of the gridiron my team name is Global Killers try and beat the champ :) 

  74. mike g says:

    Be careful what you wish for…

    Because now the town hits people back. Can you handle a MTL slap?

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  75. TomNickle says:

    Where we’ll be going I’ll be encouraging and enjoying it.

  76. mike g says:

    I thaught we agreed on going to a GENTLEman’s club….

    Something tells me a mixture of gentle and slapping in the same drink will make for one heck of a night out.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  77. G-Man says:

    Do I detect a Xmas trade for a bag of pucks?

  78. Exit716 says:

    Depends. I just don’t see the guy developing into anything.

    He’s had more chances than any other Habs prospect in the last six or seven years.

     

  79. mike g says:

    AK46 will have a 64 point year…

    :)

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  80. TomNickle says:

    You better hope so.  I haven’t hit the town hard in a long time!

  81. Exit716 says:

    AK will have a 30 point year.

  82. saskhabfan says:

    Since your always wrong the habs will make the playoffs yet again and you will be stuck doing the knuckle shuffle on the piss pump to your mikhail grabovski posters.

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  83. LA Loyalist says:

    well of course he’s not in his right mind. I’m happy to be proven wrong, but I’m not holding my breath, either.

  84. saskhabfan says:

    Who would be stupid enough to make up a different user name every week and try to pretend they know what they are talking about by posting in upper case letters? Nobody! Well noboby other then you anyway. Enjoy listening to your leafs last stanley cup win which can only be heard on a phonautograph.

     

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  85. Bill J says:

    You know what your posts say to me when I see them

    1) You really must have a “great” life, to spend ANY amount of time on a site about likely your least favorite team.

    2) Your teams “fan-based” site(s) must be horrible, for you to seek any conversations with us, as your opinion is only shared by a “select” few people around here.

  86. Bill J says:

    Excellent post HH

    Like I’ve said a few times now.

    As long as success once again becomes the norm in MTL.  I could care less about

    1) how much ANY player makes on this team, not my job to worry about it.  And this is not EASports NHL ’10 here, MANY factors affect what trade’s are available or not.

    2) Who is running the show, BG laid the groundwork last year, PG has shown himself to be decisive in his decisions, and it paid off with the Plekanec deal when comparing against Mikko Koivu, had Pleks been signed after Mikko.  Habs would have 1+ Million less in their wallet.  This is a positive that counter-weighs Gomez’s deal.  And for all the crap the Habs get for Gomez, the OTHER contracts must be given credit for.  and it “almost” evens out.

    I hope people back Price, & Everyone single player.  Hell if AK46 is playing for us still (I don’t see it myself) come game 1.  I will support him too, every season is a clean slate. 

    This year the chemistry is set, last year it took quite some time for it to click.  Then injuries started, and it delayed it further for some players.

    I feel good, not overly optimistic, but good about this upcoming season.

     

  87. jrshabs1 says:

    I’d take Timo over this idiot anyday. Timo is just a grumpy Hab fan with passion. This guy is just a moron!! where are the HIO police when you need them.

  88. G.M.B. says:

    I agree. Cliff Fleitcher would never do that. but wait, how many cups does he wear again? oh nevermind… I thought P.G was in his right mind to trust his posse when they told him that its not in the budget, unlesssss maybe you know something they dont.hmmmmm. do tell. and please try to put a positive spin on it instead.hockey is not life or death to most fans.

  89. The Cat says:

    Not saying its the case, I never seen him play, but JD couldve said that to heighten Eller’s value while silently knowing hed be moving him.

  90. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    From what I’ve read on Eller he was very highly touted by a few scouts,  and PG wasn’t the only GM calling the Blues enquiring about him.

  91. The Cat says:

    All he said was he probably would have had a hard time making the team, he said hed be excellent one day, not that he was a career AHL er.

  92. andrewberkshire says:

    I think the second part is posturing from Perron, saying he thinks they have a good team. But with the departures of Kariya and Tkachuk Eller was guaranteed a spot. No two ways about it.

  93. showey47 says:

    From what director of central scouting E.J. maguire said he was the 2nd best drafted player not playing in the nhl next to jordan eberle. This statement was made shortly after the trade and before the 2010 draft so obviously this didn’t include anyone drafted this past summer.

  94. andrewberkshire says:

    Lots to look forward to in Eller. I can’t wait to see him play a few games!

  95. HardHabits says:

    I still say 2011-2012 shall be the real start of good things for the Habs. Next year is going to be an important part of this new team’s learning curve. As a Habs fan since ’73 I haven’t ever seen what I am seeing now with this team (complete over-haul). I almost wish they’d go even slower and really stock up on young talent, nevertheless I see JM’s words about pairs of forwards (plex/cammy and gio/gomez) as being more sound than trying to find a whole line that clicks as with the Carbo where we saw the Habs have Higgins-Koivu-Ryder one year and Kovalev-Plex-AKost the other with nary a repeat between them. The idea of 6 defensemen all on the same page and equally interchangeable. How is that bad when you’ve got PK and Markov? I will say this that next year if the Habs really slip in the standings I’ll be one of the few preaching patience.

  96. SeriousFan09 says:

    Gotta say, it’s been really fun around here since HH was replaced by his alternate-universe double.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  97. The Cat says:

    It could be…Players that are on the team usually know what the team will look like though… try outs or training camps are a bit of a sham to be honest. The team is usually made before anybody sets foot on the ice.

  98. Chuck says:

    Methinks that he found a key for Boone’s “medicine” cabinet.

  99. TomNickle says:

    If Latendresse repeats that performance I’ll be shocked.  Absolutely shocked.

    Not only does he not have any heart, but he lacks the skill that 40 goal scorers in the NHL have.

  100. pic1983 says:

    Actually, quite a few of his 25 goals were from the dirty area in front of the net.  I just think once minnesota let him play his game, and stopped telling him how to play his game, he gained confidence and became more effective.  He realized on his own what he needs to do to score goals. 

    IMO, it is very important for organizations to draft players that fit their team, and not just the best player available.  Nikita Filatov is a great hockey player, he just couldnt play in Ken Hitchcocks system, and not all players will find success when they are being TOLD how they should play.  Andrei Kostitsyns most effective year was in 2007-2008 when we were playing run and gun offense.  Kostitsyn clearly doesnt know how to play in a stifling defensive “system” (and I use the term system loosely because allowing the other team to play the whole game in your zone and outshoot you is hardly a system).

  101. mike g says:

    Let’s talk about P’ti Guy next year…

    Something tells me he benefitted from a change of scenery for a little too long. When he went on his little tear, I watched a couple of Minny games out of curiosity. No improvement of his work ethic, skating, or heart. He was just often on the side of the net and tapped a few pucks in. He scored about 5 nice goals, the rest were junkies…

    Teams will realize he’s trying to copy Briere’s side of the net tap-in goals, and they’ll start covering him. If I was an oddsmaker, I’d have Guillaume’s 2010-11 goaltotal at 17.5….

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  102. G-Man says:

    Most of his goals were scored from 5 feet from the net. What hilights were you watching?

  103. SeriousFan09 says:

    Guimauve had no heart was the issue with him. if MIN makes the playoffs, he’ll be a ghost.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  104. G-Man says:

    He will score 30 while Pouding spins his wheels with inconsistency.

  105. G-Man says:

    He’s way better than you give him credit for.

  106. TomNickle says:

    Not really.  I put his skill level at that of an average top 6 forward.  I don’t see him having elite talent, but very good.

    The facts remain, he doesn’t work consistently, he doesn’t have heart, he cares more about his public appearance than he does his play.

  107. Exit716 says:

    Well it would be hard for Guilliame to top the 2 points Pouliot contributed in 18 games.

  108. SeriousFan09 says:

    Guimauve: 1A in 12 career playoff games.

    Oh and it took Pouliot about 10 days to score more points for MTL when he got here than Fatendresse had during his swan song with MTL as he took a public dump on the CH with his heartless efforts this season.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  109. TomNickle says:

    That’s pretty pessimistic considering they didn’t play that way this season and we finished in 8th with an injury riddled season.

    I was asking more in terms of what happens from an organizational stand point.  I’d say that it’s fairly obvious that the team will finish in the same area or slightly better if they don’t play the way they’re being asked to.

  110. likehoy says:

    well sometimes players are better playing a way they’re not being asked to…look at guimauve latendresse. 

    we tell him to crash the net, he sucks. minnesota lets him be a perimeter player and he scores 25 goals.

  111. sholi2000.com says:

    I was just looking at the list of people going.  This is going to be a blast, all great guys/gals going.

     

    They Call Me Shane

  112. adam76 says:

    It most likely is Price, no chance he is working out or doing any off ice training.  

     

     

  113. Exit716 says:

    No. He’s devoutly Amish and shuns all forms of modern technology.

  114. kempie says:

    Thought it was pretty dumb. Until I saw the fish. Then I LMAO. Good one JJ.

  115. mrhabby says:

    Ian, iam interested for sure..do u have room?????

     

    david.

  116. Mark C says:

    Ryan Jankowski:

    Video from 2010 combine: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=70892

    Video recap of 2009 draft: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac3H7LCeRC8

    TSN video from 2009 draft :http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=44401

    Fanhouse claims he will be scouting the WHL, USHL, and wait for it…Minnesota: http://www.islanderspointblank.com/2010/07/jankowski-joins-the-canadiensex-assistant-gm-will-scout-whl-ushl-minnesota/

    Reading some of the fan’s reactions to Jankowski and he comes across as a boy wonder type. Five out of six NYI fans are disappointed by losing him. We’ll see how this plays out but this seems like another high quality hire.

  117. Bill J says:

    Is this supposed to be funny ?

    Dude. Get over it.

  118. smiler2729 says:

    Max Talbot is just saying what everybody’s been thinking for years. Ovenchicken is such an a-hole.

  119. Bill J says:

    LOL – Ovenchicken!

    Nice one, I’d had not heard that one yet.

  120. mikec8h says:

    Nice info!

  121. petrov14 says:

    HAHAHA! NICE!

    ______________________________________ Gionta for Captain.

  122. sholi2000.com says:

    I agree

    He rubs me the wrong way as well. 

    They Call Me Shane

  123. Bugs says:

    Ovy and Talbot ever drop’em, my money’s on the Ivan.

    And after that, we can call Talbot the cowardly, pee-in-your-pants UBER-chicken and watch him talk then. Should be good for a laugh either way.

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assistant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  124. HabFanSince72 says:

    Ovechkin certainly didn’t cover himself in glory in the last playoffs, with his Halak’s hand is was shaking comment.

    One thing to be arrogant and win. Quite another to be arrogant and get totally pwn3d.

     

     

  125. habs4ever2894 says:

    Awww man. I just wrote the most positive and well though out comment i ever wrote and i accidentally pressed back!!!

    It must have been around 500 words…. This sucks . 

  126. 24 Cups says:

    Pony was a decent two way winger in Toronto although it didn’t hurt getting to play alongside Sundin.  He then goes to Pittsburgh where he gets to play with Crosby and Malkin which is a great opportunity to shine and parlay  his good fortune into a rich UFA contract.  What does he do?  He’s shites the bed so badly that he eventually gets benched for some playoff games.  Go figure.

    Buyer beware.  I’d let his sweat it out until fall and then offer him a discounted two year contract. Instead, he gets a 3M deal for a year from LA.  I guess that’s a bit of a win-win situation for both parties.

  127. nickster13 says:

    I dont see anything wrong with OVI personally, he didnt say anything all that offensive, and he plays the game hard. We should instead focus on whiney crosby

  128. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    thats what I was thinking, can’t be him.  but it still made me curious.  anyway, if it is him he’s a pretty good player,  came in first in a couple of matches.

  129. smiler2729 says:

    I like Crosby… not the whining part but I like the kid, he’ll grow out of the whine. Ovenchicken is a great player and no doubt lives and breathes the game but he has no respect for it with his egodriven antics.

  130. SmartDog says:

    Hi Ian,

    I need 2 tickets but can’t seem to make a response on that main page.  Please put me down for 2 though.

    Rob

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  131. HardHabits says:

    Here’s my HH opinion on Carey Price.

    He had a great WJC and AHL career. He started great in the NHL his 1st season leading Montreal to 1st over-all in the East only to falter in the playoffs, well in reality he got outplayed by Biron and Philly put the muscle on the rest of the Habs. Price came back strong the next season only to get hampered by an injury and his return coincided with the greatest melt-down in Habs history. He’s been on a statistical decline ever since yet has often shown flashes of brilliance, he even had periods where he had his mojo moxy working and looked like the Carey Price we all knew he is going to be.

    His is a case of taking a few steps back to take many more forward, in leaps and bounds at that.

    I am looking for forward to Price signing and I hope it’s 3 years 2.75-3-3.25. New numbers from HH for a change in perspective.

    ===============================================================

    The ability to post this comment with the avatar to the left is part of the new HH conundrum.

  132. SeriousFan09 says:

    Okay everyone, pool in for the Authentic Gomez Jersey for SD!

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  133. TripleX says:

    A frequent thread on HIO is that Price is not the only RFA yet to sign so why worry.  On the surface that is true, but if you dig a little deeper a different situation is uncovered.

    I looked at RFA’s that are somewhat similar to Price in terms of marquee status and importance to their team.  I firmly believe Price stands alone in his overall importance to the success of his team, because he is the de facto starting goalie and the offensive weakness of Montreal.

    So the list:

    Montreal Carey Price

    Chicago Antti Niemi

    Anaheim Bobby Ryan

    NYR Marc Staal

    SJ Devin Setoguchi

    Colorado Peter Mueller

    St. Louis Erik Johnnson

    Atlanta Andrew Ladd

    Ben Eager

    Boston Blake Wheeler

     

    I would argue looking at that list that Price is at least the top two in the most valuable to his team.

     

    “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars” – Oscar Wilde

  134. Chuck says:

    “Offensive weakness”?

  135. TripleX says:

    Worst team five on five in the entire league.  What would you call it?

     

     

    “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars” – Oscar Wilde

  136. SeriousFan09 says:

    A team that only had 2 of their Top 6 forwards turn in over 70 games and their best offensive defencemen miss 35 games to start the year? Weakness on the Top 6 and poor tranisition game doesn’t do much for ES scoring.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  137. ooder says:

    imo respect is a lost and archaic term in today’s NHL

    u think Richards has any respect after what he did to Booth?

    you look at guys like Cooke, Bell, Tucker, Clutterbuck, Kaleta, Avery.. and what resepct?

    the league needs to be trimmed down.. get rid of the garbage.

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  138. showey47 says:

    the difference between last and 15th is 15 goals. Do you not think having markov,cammy,gio,benny and ak46 missing a combined 130 games would have made a little difference? Do you think they would have still finished last? Sure every team has injuries,but not one had 4 of its top 6 forwards missing at least 20 games each and their top dman missing almost half the season.

  139. K-hab25 says:

    “get totally pwn3d” Whats that? All I remember is OV getting 5 goals and 10 points in 7 games. While the mighty Crysby, got 1 goal and 3 points. He had less points than OV scored goals. Not to mention the physical game OV played, compared to the tissue paper game of the “kid”.

  140. kempie says:

    Are you ready for some baseball!!!!? Man I love hockey. Pandemonium at an Orioles game:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffWxVvHLwXM&feature=player_embedded

  141. kempie says:

    This is just my personal opinion, but I think that the biggest mistake in Price’s development was to let him come back (likely a little too soon) from a pretty serious injury to play in the All Star game. In fact, if I was an NHL coach or a GM, there’s almost no way I would let my starting goaltender play in an All Star game just so he can get lit up like the 4th of july. Maybe if it’s someone like Roy or Brodeur who have Stanley Cups and many winning seasons to their credit and nothing left to prove. But a very young, developing, freshly injured, potential marquee, franchise goaltender? Not a chance. For an absolutely meaningless farce of a spectacle ‘game’ where defense consists of blasting it from the point. The league can hate me if they want. Why would I possibly want to subject a 20 year old to such a guaranteed failure? Big mistake and he hasn’t been the same since.

  142. ProHabs says:

    I agree with you there.

    Wasn’t the story that Carbo didn’t want Price to play in the All Star Game and told him that. Price was upset because it was in Montreal and wanted to play in it with his teammates that he went over Carbo’s head to upper management and told them to let him play. Upper management decided to side with Price and let him play. It was then that Carbo lost the room. The players felt that if Carbo didn’t have more authority then a 20 year old kid, then the other players thought why should they listen to him.

    Don’t know if the story is true but I remember hearing that last year.

  143. habs001 says:

    in the  playoffs camm was on a 52 goal a season pace and gion on a 35 goal pace …gomez was on his season ave pace and plecks was a bit off…but if the other players dont produce(ak46 and pouliot) even with no injuries we will have trouble scoring and hang around the 500 record surpassing it only if o/t wins come.

  144. bwoar says:

    Niemi (starting goaltender, same as Price), Staal and Erik Johnson are as important to their respective teams as Price is to the CH.  Man oh man if Johnson walked away from the Blues, a certain goalie would be in for a rocky ride.

  145. nightmare_49 says:

       The NHL’s Best Even-Strength Scorers / Hockey or Die

       http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2010/07/25/the-leagues-best-even-strength-scorers/

       a note from Jim Matheson

       Free-agent winger Marc Pouliot signed for an NHL wage of $550,000 in Tampa Bay, about half what he was making in Edmonton last year. It’s a two-way deal, too, unlike his last one-way deal.

     
     @DownGoesBrown: Can the NHL not kill two birds with one stone and just sell the Phoenix Coyotes to Ilya Kovalchuk?

  146. The Cat says:

    Halak is better when he gets peppered though. Id fear for him if he played on a team that gave up 25 or so shots per game.

  147. badbalance says:

    double…

  148. SeriousFan09 says:

    CHI doesn’t have the firepower of CHI anymore. PHI is going to meet the salary cap wall after this season, if MTL had it, they’d lose it pretty damn fast anyway.

    CHI doesn’t need Niemi, they need Keith, Seabrook, Campbell and Hjalmarsson. That and Hossa, Toews and Sharp as their 2-way forwards. They’re going DET style, average goaltending but outstanding D. Philly decided to go their usual way, ****-poor goaltending and outstanding D.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  149. badbalance says:

    Avery just talks a lot, he won’t elbow someone in the head from the back, he’s an agitator and does some stupid things, but overall he doesnt deserve to be put in the same bucket as the rest of the players your mentioned…

  150. badbalance says:

    And when crosby slashes after he gets taken off the puck and not getting penalties love for the game? It’s a very biased argument you got there. Ovechkin will try to check a guy like Chara, Crosby wouldn’t dare…… Who is the real chicken?

  151. The_Franchise31 says:

    dont know who boisvert is but hope he can scout the Q better the other two

  152. saskhabfan says:

    Kind of like our team did for him against the flyers? Funny how the whiners complained that our team D was lousy and halak saved their bacon but when they held the flyers to about 20 shots a game halak couldn’t stop anything. His ,845 save percentage in 4 loses to the flyers proves it.

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  153. saskhabfan says:

    Any chance halak is working on stopping breakaways/shootouts or his lousy rebound control? Or maybe his high glove side which he was actually scored on more then price was this year. But morons liike yourself who don’t watch hockey wouldn’t know that.

    Leafstv “telling their fans they deserve to win for over 40 years”

  154. Dr-Watson says:

                            Price is a asset and liability. Very sound and logical analysis. Was any other Hab player                                                               on the ice with him in those five on five situations or is it that he is just the only one to blame.               

  155. Dr-Watson says:

              That is not really a revelation is it. Thanks for pointing out the obvious though.         

  156. TripleX says:

    I am saying Montreal does not have the firepower of a Chicago or Philadelphia, and thus we rely more on strong goaltending to win.

    Does Chicago need Niemi more than Montreal needs Price?

     

    “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars” – Oscar Wilde

  157. rambo8 says:

    where do i get more information on this

  158. jack8 says:

    this is nice information need to know more

  159. LatheDog says:

    I heard from a Red Wing fan that Rockstrom was the scout that drafted or was the main influence behind acquiring Lidstrom.

    Can anyone confirm this??

  160. nickster13 says:

    I doubt he would be that naive to put that lol…. it would be more like “MLG09CP” or somehting like that haha

  161. HardHabits says:

    h4e!!! There was a train of thought to that great post. So what if you can’t re-write it verbatim? Re-capture the gist of it, the argument, the premises and the conclusion!! Dig baby dig!!!

  162. Aaron13 says:

    When does training camp start? Please.

  163. J.J. of Turku says:

    Brilliant… Not icehockey, but close to sport anyways…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82wM8s-_2RM

     

     

    http://media.turku.fi/kamera1.html

  164. GrimJim says:

    First preseason game is 22 Sept so I’m guessing camp starts somewhere around the 17th or 18th (Last year camp started on the 13th but I thought the NHL extended the year due to the Olympics)

  165. yathehabsrule says:

    So after Frolov signs, Ponicrapovsky (who nobody talked about) signs for more?

    ___________________________________________

    Ya! The Habs Rule! now on Twitter!

  166. GrimJim says:

    If someone already posted this, I apologize for repetition, but THN has a short fantasy preview of 2010-11 Habs.

    http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/34604-Fantasy-Pool-Look-Canadiens-Predators-and-Islanders-offseason-report.html

  167. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Does anybody here know if Carey Price plays video games??

  168. nickster13 says:

    he’s a guy around 2 years older than me, so undoubtedly! I see him as a COD guy, what say everybody?

  169. kempie says:

    So Lombardi thinks that Ponikarovski is worth the same money as Frolov plus a signing bonus? Wow. He’s done such a good job lately and now this? This is a Sather/Sutter type of move.

  170. Ian Cobb says:

     

    2010 HIO Fan Summit Itinerary Nov. 5th and 6th in Montreal.

    Hotel Special For Summit Goers

     Do not book anything until we have confirmation game tickets from the Bell Center.

     

    Friday
    Nov. 5th, We are watching the Habs vs  Sabers game at Hurley’s Pub
    1225 Crescent St.  on big screen around 6pm. Name tags will be given out.

     Sat. morning, Breakfast will be at Chez Coras 1240 Drummond St. at 8:30am

     Sat. at 10;30 Bell Center tour and Habs Hall of Fame tour.

     

    Sat.
    at 2:45 Pregame meal and The Children’s Foundation Raffle at The Baton
    Rouge Rest. 1050 Mountain St. Don’t forget to bring along something to
    contribute to the raffle please.

     Across the street at 7pm our Habs take on the Ottawa Senator’s

     

    After
    game celebration. We have the second floor of Hurley’s Pub reserved for
    us. A password will be given to you at the pregame meal to by pass any
    line up and entry to our HIO celebration room.

     Sunday farewell breakfast to be announced.

     See you all in Montreal,!!

    Ian

  171. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    haha,  funny you said that!  The reason I ask is because I was just playing some COD MW2 and I notice one of the usernames of the other players is cprice.  I was like “hmmm I wonder if that could be Carey?”.  

  172. Danno says:

    That’s a good one JJ! Thanks!

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  173. LA Loyalist says:

    I agree. I wasn’t trying to be definitive – just make the point. By the way did we not have Volchenkov and give him away as part of the Smurf trade?

  174. showey47 says:

    no,we didn’t. That was valentenko.

  175. HardHabits says:

    I can’t resist this one.

    Either my question is not being understood

    Are you so full of yourself that you actually believe that you’re capable of formulating a query so complicated that no-one can understand it? Wow! Talk about pretense. 

    The funny thing is that we can ask you the very same question.

    Why do you seem to think that you know so much more?

    Tells us PT. Tell me again why my avatar is an insult and not a joke. Tell me why most insults are actually funny if delivered properly? At least I jest when I take a jab at someone. In your case you insult everybody while being serious.

    my question is not being understood…

    HA!!!!

    Everyone understood my tanking theory because I explained it so articulately. I also drove it home numerous times through a variety of multi-media presentations, graphs, quips and avatars. Try being being a little bit articulate and creative and maybe we’ll understand you!

  176. LA Loyalist says:

    Ponikarvski is another soft moody Russian who couldn’t find a corner if it was a right angle. I’m not saying he doesn’t have some skill, he’s just a direct replacement for Frolov and I’m damn glad we don’t have either of them here. The Russians that are successful in adapting to the NHL are the tougher ones with a bit of an edge – OV, of course, Markov, Kovalev in his day (watch his masterful creaming of Darcy Tucker on You Tube if you doubt) or with such massive talent (Kovalchuk, Malkin) that there deficiencies are minimized when placed with the right team-mates. That’s all. It’s not that complicated.

  177. HardHabits says:

    Good point about which Russians are desirable and which should be avoided. I think you can add players like Volchenkov and Kasparaitis to that (the good) list. I hope Avtsin and Yemelin make it as well.

  178. twocents says:

    Perron is on the coaching staff too? Or does he work in the front office?

  179. Bill J says:

    Yeah that’s about the same as Price saying, Yeah PK is going to be an excellent player one day, but he probably wouldn’t make the team in Mtl this year.

    Perron should worry about HIS development and worry less about others.

  180. sholi2000.com says:

    Until I see the guy play live, in the AHL or NHL I refuse to assess the guy and I almost never listen to others. I shouldn’t say listen, I should say agree with.

    They Call Me Shane

  181. The Cat says:

    David Perron said Eller is going to be an excellent hockey player one day but added that he probably wouldnt have made the team in St.Louis this year.

  182. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    I thought it was reported somewhere that he was a lock to make the blues this season?

  183. andrewberkshire says:

    That’s funny because John Davidson has been saying since last February that Eller would be on the team next year.

  184. SeriousFan09 says:

    Roy won the Memorial Cup, but so have other coachs and they’ve not made the NHL. Junior success doesn’t equal NHL success, whole different environment and coaching kids versus coaching millionaire pros is a whole different matter. the Junior-to-NHL coaching jump is not what I’d call a wise move to make for any NHL team. Roy should not be confused with the old regime but it doesn’t mean he can just walk in and manage the salary cap, trades and such. If he wants to work in the FO and then try to work to GM later that’s fine. I’m tired of hearing about these guys trying to shortcut to top jobs in the NHL because of their success as a player. You want the job, prove you can work the job under that one first.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  185. Exit716 says:

    I hope Quebec gets a team and goes pure Quebecois, then the Habs can concentrate on winning.

  186. Mike MacPhee says:

    The top-scoring forward drafted out of the Q in the last 10 years is Jason Pominville!

    You mean, the top scoring ‘Quebec born’ forward drafted out of the Q.

    A guy named Crosby, also out of the Q, has done very nicely thus far.

  187. BJ says:

    You have some good points. But I still think that they will fold under pressure from the media if things go south with the team this season. And even though its true that there are not too many French Canadian stars there are certainly some places to fill on the 3rd or 4th lines to maintain that French Canadian flavor. As for Roy I would see him as coach or GM and on either job it would be an upgrade and certainly more passion than what we have presently. If Boucher can coach in the NHL one year out of junior I think Roy can handle the jump as well.

  188. SeriousFan09 says:

    Canadiens are going with what works, who’s cheap on the 3rd/4th line right now and so far, the composition looks solid and the team just can’t dump a character player like Pyatt or Moen just because there’s a Quebecois up for the job.

    The thing is, it hasn’t actually been shown that Boucher can coach the NHL level yet so it’s a little hard to say Roy can do the same especially considering he’s never even coached the minors and recieved exceptional praise for it like Boucher has, just the weak sister league of the CHL. He has no professional experience with a front office position either so I don’t see why it’s a good idea. MTL went amateur hour with coaching for over a decade and it didn’t work out, rookie GMs did nothing for the team either. Don’t care how good he was as a goalie, doesn’t mean he can grasp the game and work it from the front office.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  189. BJ says:

    Roy won a Memorial Cup, Boucher did not. True enough that Boucher has not proven anything in the NHL as this will be his first year. Front office jobs I would think require not office skills but talent evaluation and how it would fit in to the present structure of the team, I would say that Roy has those credentials. Roy is not to be confused with Mario Tremblay, Pierre Mondou and Réjean Houle. They were all nice guys that I knew well professionally but not in the same class as Roy (with perhaps the exception of Tremblay who had tons of passion and intensity but not his level of discrimination).

  190. The Cat says:

    Its not my fault people overreact like a pack of hyenas. They can ignore me if they want, its quite easy. I think this is the first time I ever replied you, I hadnt ignored you on purpose, quite frankly you’re not that interesting, so see it can be done. And who cares about trolls and non-trolls, how old are we here 15 FFS?

  191. HardHabits says:

    What’s that in cat years? Thought so old timer!

    I never responded to you until then because you never say anything, well rarely. Since you were defending Tony I figured I’d just set your midnight whining ass straight with a whack across your black path with a broom.

    Isn’t there a Nordiques site somewhere to go garbage picking in?

  192. CBrady12 says:

    Yeah you’re right…insulting people on the internet all day is sooooo much fun…

  193. Bill says:

    No, no, the point is just that we should ONLY post our agreement with everything done by whoever happens to be running the team. You don’t have to be silent, just a sheep/yes-man.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  194. The Cat says:

    You know I find its the die hard habs fans that are rude and impolite. Im nice to whoever is civil with me. Some fans cant stomach if you dont like such and such player or if you think the habs may not be near the top of the conference etc. I never saw Callyjo be rude to anyone, I saw his views get contested rudely however.

  195. SeriousFan09 says:

    Pretty sure Tony/Cally/whoever called us ignorant sheep more than a few times and couldn’t see the truthiness of what he was ranting and raving about.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  196. The Cat says:

    You all assume hes the same guy, maybe he is I dont know, but a few die hard Gainey defenders made the same wrongful assumption about me when I first joined (saying I was a reincarnation of someone that got banned or whatever).

  197. GrimJim says:

    You’re right Cat, we don’t KNOW that CallyJo, IanCushenan, etc are the same guy but he writing/grammatical style, consistent typing idiosicracies, repetition of themes and phrases, and use of 40s era players for names or avatar pics is strong circumstantial evidence that it is the same guy. Plus your posts gradually showed a viewpoint different from the banned blogger. The Tony/Cally/Ian/etc posts are consistent over a five week period.

    Semiotics of blog posts, what a B.A. in Eng Lit is good for…

  198. HardHabits says:

    You been smoking catnip again?

    Dude. That’s the old habs_guru who in one night (almost a year ago) managed to insult both JT and Harani then proceeded to make threats on the HIO Summiteers all on the same night of the great Water Pistol fight at the Big OK Corral thread (the only HIO thread to ever get banned, nix, erased, and sent into the memory hole) where we learned who were the douches, the trolls, the king of trolls and other curious HIO facts.

    Forget the past though, he’s been banned numerous times here and, well, it’s mostly for insulting little ole me, I mean it’s not like I’m not goading him/her/it, me being the troll-baiter and all, but seriously, the guy/girl/thing is a waste of space. Then again you’re kind of a trolly little bastard here stirring shit all the time so who are you to speak. I wish everyone was as clean cut, respectful of others and reserved as I was.

  199. ZepFan2 says:

    You never saw Callyjoe/Tony be rude? Than you haven’t been looking too good!

    “die hard habs fans”

    Which YOU are not. The Nords are your team of choice.

    ————————————————————————

    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  200. ZepFan2 says:

    He’s a trolly little ba$tard because as I stated before and will state again.

    He’s NOT a Habs fan, he’s a Nords fan. He could care less about the Habs.

    ————————————————————————

    After admiring the Stanley Cup: “This is the only thing that has seen more parties than us.”
    – Steven Tyler

  201. PeterStone says:

    right .. just like real estate prices will never fall … nothing goes up forever, nothing. 

    I am not sure if profits have anything to do with anything, but I know they measure revenues.  I have heard numbers like the 6 Canadian teams account for 30% ( i am guessing here ) of NHL revenues.  I am wondering how much of that is due to the strength in Canadian $$ , which may go higher ( and most likely will) but not much more.  So, if they dont add Canadian teams, in decent markets, and they are starting to tap out the 6 teams we have, its very conceivable that revenues flat line and start to fall. 

    The rest is just math .. once revenues start falling, then the cap which is a percentage of revenues will come down.  Its part of the CBA, and its why they all give part of their salary to the escrow account  Onec that happens, things get interesting.  The only way I see them avoiding that, is 1) CBA ends or 2 ) Start moving dead money teams out of the US and into Canadian markets.

  202. GrimJim says:

    The Doomsday scenario, though, is the Canadian dollar tanking. The cap is tied to league revenues and the six Canadian teams contribute 33% (I think it is) of league revenues. If the Canadian dollars drops back to the 70 cent US level it was at 10 years ago the league loses about 10% of its revenue and the salary cap has to go down. The NHLPA had a mechanism written into the CBA where they can deny a cap reduction but they used it already (to prevent a 5% drop for the 2009-10 season if I remember correctly). So if the dollar goes down now, nothing can stop the cap reduction.

  203. TomNickle says:

    Assuming that league revenues and profits fall or come to a stand still.  What exactly is there to suggest that the NHLPA would agree to lowering the salary cap.  If anything, they will freeze it. 

    Players won’t agree to stopping a growth system with allotted spending for teams which increases the salaries of themselves and their colleagues.

    Never.

    The Players would rather force teams to change ownership and location than take money out of their own pockets.  Before the players even so much as budge on a salary cap freezing or reduction, teams in Dallas, Florida, Phoenix and Nashville will have new ownership or new locations.

    The players won’t allow teams that take money out of their pockets and continue to be a drain on the bottom line of the league and its players to operate under the protection of the commissioner’s office where he allows them to keep the salaries of those players down in protecting the incompetent organizations and integrity of his incompetent desire and the implementation of locations of those teams.

     

  204. Rudy says:

    How can a team with cap space “have no money”?

  205. TomNickle says:

    I believe what you’re referring to is the option the PA has to use which elevates the salary cap.  They’ve done it in at least two successive years.

    I’ve never heard anything about an option they exercised which prevented a drop in the cap.  Since the salary cap is tied directly with league revenues.  The cap will not go down.

    The NHL has to lose money for the cap to go down.

    If revenues exceed expenses, the cap stays the same or goes up.

     

  206. PeterStone says:

    teams that dont want to spend to the cap … Florida, Carolina … they all have space, they have no money

  207. PeterStone says:

    so, what you are suggesting is that assuming revenues fell, even if they fell by 20% , the NHLPA would maintain a fixed salary cap, and just increase the amount of $ that go into the escrow account … ? So, they would all take a paycut, but the cap stays intact.  I guess thats plausible too … i wonder if there is a limit to the size of the escrow $ before they have to start lowering the cap.

  208. TomNickle says:

    If it’s a drastic change that we’re talking about.  The next CBA negotiations could result in a model similar to the NBA where there are contract levels that teams are allowed to maintain but can’t exceed.

    For example, no team could exceed 2 player contracts that pay $7 million annually, and no team could exceed 5 contracts that pay $5 million annually.

    The cap will never go down, but the league could ultimately try to control how much individual teams spend on players.

  209. TomNickle says:

    That’s an interesting doomsday theory but consider this.

    The NHL’s revenues and profits continue to grow.  As they grow, there’s more money available to spend on players, especially when you consider that more money continues to be spent on players during the growth period.

    The thing about a salary cap is that no league can maintain integrity while lowering it.  Lowering it absolutely cripples teams who’ve spent to the cap in an effort to ice their best product possible.  Telling teams that they must rid themselves of assets that they’ve built their franchise around would be a dagger to the heart of fan bases all over the league.

    Won’t happen.  The NHLPA will NEVER bend on a reduction of the salary cap.  They made a major concession in allowing it to begin with.  Agreeing to lower it is something the PA, regardless of leadership, will never do.

  210. mezzi14 says:

    Yeah I like the European scout we hired, he seems like a steal so maybe now Timmons will pick the right Euros but still North Americans win you cups Euros win you awards I think I will stick with good old Canadians and Americans

    ” They call me Drew”

  211. Mark C says:

    Rockstrom has had a few great European picks over the last five years, when he was Director of Player Presonnal in Europe, below are his top three selections.

    Evgeny Grachev (2008, 3rd round, pick #75) 2009-10 Mckeen’s prospect ranking #23, Alexi Cherepanov (2007, 1st round, pick #17) was ranked in Mckeen’s 2008-09 at  #22, before his untimely passing, Artem Anisimov (2006, 2nd round, pick #54) ranked as #46 in 2009-10 Mckeen’s.  

  212. mezzi14 says:

    I do not see why he would not, I udnerstand his FA status but still he does not really have a lot of negotiating power since he did not complete all tasks in his entry level deal. Therefore, he will be resigned before camp maybe by mid August that is my prediction. He will be okay all he has to do is play a more stand up style because he does not focus on trying to make that highlight save all he has to do is stop the puck. Projected salary I believe for Carey: 2 years 4.5 million or 3 years 6 million

     

    ” They call me Drew”

  213. lenny says:

    does anyone think Price may not report to camp in September??

  214. kempie says:

    You’re going to have to do a lot better if you want to be respected as a real idiot-troll around here. Tony really raised the bar this year. This is just troll 101 stuff. Lame.

  215. Storm Man says:

    I see you forgot your meds today. I hope you find a new team to cheer for.

  216. Curtoph says:

    Man, he isn’t even giving a 100% troll effort. Name is habsrdone and insulting like its hurting our feelings and such.

  217. HabFanSince72 says:

    The question was about Tampa Bay.

  218. SeriousFan09 says:

    The Detroit Red Wings notwithstanding of course.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  219. Mark C says:

    Talent comes from all corners of the earth, bad business to limit an organization based on geographical concerns.

    I’m with you, Rockstrom seems like a steal.

     

  220. Mark C says:

    To further your point, Rockstrom’s last year in Detroit helped shape that organization.  His last year was the 1989, Lidstrom, Fedorov, and Konstantinov draft.     

  221. Bill J says:

    Toews over Ovechkin IMO.

    Toews over Crosby.

    And I agree with SF09 on who SHOULD be a Canadian Role Model for Hockey.

    Jonathan Toews.

    Crosby, like Price.  Has been rushed into his role, and has handled it remarkably well granted,  But so has Toews, and has been classier overall.

    Crosby has had some pretty pathetic moments on the Ice.  Toews, has been mature well beyond his & Crosby’s years.

  222. The Cat says:

    Talbots a good guy. I dare say captain material.

  223. SeriousFan09 says:

    Just tired of this NHL nonsense where teams call out the other guys for having a dirty hitter when they’ve got one of the nastiest in the bunch on their side.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  224. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Ovy’s doucheyness goes beyond being a dirty hitter,  it also encompasses breaking a womans camera in a Vancouver bar, and spraying a flag kid with ice.  Ovy’s like school in the summer,  no class.

  225. The Cat says:

    Fair point. Cooke is dirty, exactly what the habs need though.

  226. HardHabits says:

    OK Rudy.

  227. SeriousFan09 says:

    Crosby behaved like a child when the Canadiens took him on during the playoffs, constant whining, breaking his stick for no reason and throwing it in anger and crying to the refs after every play. Utterly embarrassing when compared to Captain Serious in Chicago. Ovechkin was by far the more professional athlete during the post-season than Sid the Brat.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  228. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    OK Timmy.

  229. The Cat says:

    I agree, Maxime Talbot for Captain. Id bring myself to stomach them if they ever did that. F**k I hate that team.

  230. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    What would you call Price’s behavior during the playoff’s?

  231. SeriousFan09 says:

    He did that in 1 game, Sid the Brat is the captain of the Penguins and is a 5-year NHL veteran with two Cup Final Apperances, a Cup Ring and an Olympic Gold. What was his excuse during the 7-game series? He’s supposed to be the face of the NHL and the idol for kids in Canada and should set a better example than he did. Toews is easily twice the man he is, he’s the ideal right now for a young professional player in the NHL.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  232. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    But he only played one game.  Crosby is a way better role model for Canadian kids than Ovy will ever be IMHO.

  233. SeriousFan09 says:

    Well Crosby being Canadian and starring in every 2nd NHL commercial would pretty much set him up to be the role model for Canadian kids no? Toss in that puke-inducing Timbits ad and I can’t imagine why Crosby might be held up as the idol, even if Toews is the better man by a long shot.

    Ovechkin doesn’t get sold as the role model, he’s the bad boy of the NHL and that’s how they market it. I was just saying how I’m tired of Ovechkin getting slagged when at the end of the day, you compare the two players and how they played against MTL in the playoffs, one of them took it like a man and the other took it like a 9-year old.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  234. HardHabits says:

    There is no Timmy on the Fat Albert show. No points for you using cultural references when trying to be funny.

  235. LA Loyalist says:

    Big agreement here, and I’m Canadian. I’d take OV on my team anyway. He’s the closest in style and talent to Richard we’ve seen in years. That said, Crosby has huge talent and I’m looking fwd to many years of rivalry between the two. The bad news is neither of them play for us.

  236. alestar says:

    You’re wasting your time replying to this “habsrdone” guy, its either Tony or another Tony wannabe…member for 16 whole hours and nothing but crap for posts.

     

    XXIV…and counting

  237. lenny says:

    as the number 1 annointed goalie, i think it is relevant

  238. santeri says:

    Yeah, I agree, Talbot is a major douche.

  239. SLONCOLD says:

    1. i don’t see how kovalchuck is holding the other guys back. 3 teams are waiting for some stuff to happen. and maybe at most one or 2 players r moved for salary reasons. the bottom line is teasm are going with youth over signing old average UFA guys.

    2. i don’t think their goaltending and D is good enough but if some other teams get the injury bug and ellis and smith play well, they could be fighting for a spot.

    3.AK, i think pouliot will be plagued by injuries

    4. PK will get the headlines, but georges will be the better defense man

    5…..

  240. mike g says:

    Alright, 5 random questions for ya’ll since this summer is boring as heck…..

    1- Should future UFA’s not look forward to free agency as much as they currently do, due to the way Kovalchuk has single handedly prevented over 200 NHL’ers from signing already?

    2- Will the Tampa Bay “OMG Stevie Y will never make a bad move” Lightining make the playoffs this year?

    3- Who will have the best year: AK46 or Pouliot?

    4- Who will be a more valuable defenseman: PK or Georges?

    5- When does the UFA market open, again?

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  241. HabFanSince72 says:

    1. Obvioulsy the cap is really starting to hurt older players.

    2. Yes. They are clearly a better team than last year.

    3. AK46. I expect great things.

    4. Apples and Oranges.

     

  242. SeriousFan09 says:

    1. UFA is a year to year thing, depends on how many big contracts are expiring, some years can be a spending spree and there’s a lot of names coming up for 2011, a few of which I expect will not be signed, Chokin’  Joe I think will be looking for a new home certainly.

    2. They could, but that’s also because the East is sad-sack right now.

    3. AK46

    4. Oh that’s harsh, Josh has the heart and leadership, but PK has those slick skills and the youthful enthusiasm, but PK I think will bring a strong improvement to team offence in the transition game and allow more wins that way so I have to say PK if he plays like we know he can.

    5. Once the Kovy 2 saga is finally over, August signings with some training camp invites.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  243. TomNickle says:

    1. Not if they want to play for a contender.  If they want big money they’ll have to rely on a team willing to overpay.

    2. Hard to say.  They’ll be able to score(only if they stay healthy), but they sure as hell can’t play D with Kubina, Hedman and Ohlund leading the way.  Goaltending is still very suspect.  Coaching is too.   No experience on that bench at all.  Playing against big markets will be a challenge for them to keep cool.

    3. AK46.  70 point year.

    4. Not really a fair question.  I’m going to say Gorges because of what he brings to the room and off the ice.

    5. Mid-August.

  244. PeterStone says:

    actually i find this whole salary cap fascinating this season. I dont think its fair to blame the lack of FA movement on kovy II.  I read something somewhere that said, Rich teams have no cap space and teams with cap space have no money.  Thats the real issue.  All the teams that had cash spent it over the past 4 or 5 seasons … and most spent it unintelligently. 

    Boston, Chicago, NYR, NYI, Tor, Montreal, Vancouver, Calgary , Philly, the list goes on and on … just wait until the cap goes down … thats when the real mess will start.  Serioulsy, what happens if the cap goes down … 7% or 3.5M$ … how many teams would be affected .. what would happen .. would NHL Players have to be sent to the minors ? I think what may save the owners is that the CBA will probably end before the cap goes down significantly … otherwise, that day is coming , and that will be an interesting summer

    On another note, if they feel that the 17 year Kovy II contract was circumventing the cap ( or the intention of the cap ) , isnt putting an NHL player with a contract, Huet , in the minors , or sending him to Europe also “circumventing” the intention of the cap ?

  245. Mr-T says:

              Your question is based on uncertain premises or unwarranted assumptions. If it is not a hypothesis then the              Habs should make a move now via a trade or play a wait and see game but for how long and is there a alternative solution in place again by a trade or bringing up a player from Hamilton either way that may not be an acceptable risk.

    That is a huge gamble should a player not be available for various reasons by the trade route or from Hamilton. The ramifications can only have a detrimental effect to the player and the team if there is no viable solution. 

    The method of trial and error may work early in the year in the short term but can lead to instability, resentment and a dysfuntional environment in the long run. If someone is uncapable of something that results in a negative impact on his performance and consequently the team then what is the rational of asking or expecting it in the first place.

    When a coach can not or is unwilling to adjust his expectations from a player and to use that players assets to his and the teams advantage or that his system is antiquated and he can not make the necessary changes and/or adjustments than replace him. There are few if any alternatives or options left.

  246. TomNickle says:

    What happens this season if Benoit Pouliot and Andrei Kostitsyn don’t play the scoring physical game that the Habs are banking on and need from them.  Next seasons’ ufa market is significantly better than this season’s but…….

    1. The wingers aren’t of a premium age where the Habs will want to spend.

    2. With so many of our prospects in a contract year it would be next to impossible to make a trade that would bring in one or two such players.

     

     

  247. likehoy says:

    what happens is we’ll suck and get the lottery pick….oh well, what can we do?

  248. mike g says:

    If AK and Pouliot stink it up, it’s a very tough pill to swallow for the Habs..

    They’ve basically said to both of those guys that they’ve got top 6 minutes to produce. If they don’t cash in, I can somehow see Eller being moved to the wing if he’s playing well on the 3rd line, and perhaps throwing a guy like Moen or White on the 2nd line like we did last year.

    In any case, it will be a disaster for the Habs. They won’t get anything for Pouliot, his trade value will be disgusting. And AK will not be asked to return the year after, and the Habs will be without 2 of their 4 top wingers.

    I really hope it doesn’t happen.

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  249. Ian Cobb says:

    Fan Summit Updates And Itinerary For 2010

    Hotel Special For Summit Goers

  250. Ian Cobb says:

    Vaughn Karpan was the best signing of the bunch. He is one of the most talented scouts in the world. I have watched his work for a long time.

    He is a solid hockey man.

    When he picks em, they stay picked!!

  251. PrimeTime says:

    Why do some fans here seem to think they know so much more than the hired experienced professionals when the balance of the overall knowledge is so much not in their favor?? Providing opinion is one thing but to make judgements based on so little is just plain stupid! 

     

     “People build teams in certain ways. I’ve always traded for futures – not pasts.” – Sam Pollock The reason we are Hab fans http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=1476

  252. The Cat says:

    Well then lets all be quiet and say nothing. That should be fun…

  253. pic1983 says:

    After years of mediocrity, can you really say that upper management know exactly what they are doing? To me it looks like they know how to keep us mediocre and know how to squeak us into the playoffs.  Making the playoffs = Playoff Revenue.  THat being said, from a business/capitalist stand point, Gainey/gauthier and co have done an excellent job.  From a winning/championship stand point, not so good. 

     

    Just because you are in the position, doesnt mean you are the best person for the job.  If you’ve ever worked for a corporation you should know that. 

  254. PrimeTime says:

    Either my question is not being understood or no one has an answer b/c the replies so far fail to explain the reason. I’m sincerely asking a valid question…..we can question decisions made by management, complain to the results of those decisions but “How does anyone feel they can pass judgement on people and their performance when they lack so much information???” Whether LA, today, acquired the exact player they needed to continue to improve their team is not for anyone here to judge. Perhaps it was Poni was the “best available” player and the right contract at this moment. Why do people feel that one move is always the last move?? When 30 teams are competing for the same goal with limited resources in a limited marketplace sometimes decisions need to be made as to what is the best we can do today to live another day.

     

    “People build teams in certain ways. I’ve always traded for futures – not pasts.” – Sam Pollock The reason we are Hab fans http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=1476

  255. TripleX says:

    Chris “knuckles” Nilan on Team990 right now.  Fascinating things to say about the old Montreal Canadiens and fighting in the NHL.

     

    ROFL  Max Talbot called Ovy a douche in a radio interview about the Winter Classic.

     

    “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars” – Oscar Wilde

  256. Storm Man says:

    Hello to all the fantasy football fans who want to play in ESPN fantasy football in the (HIO Habs fans only) league it is ready to go get your team in now the draft happens July 29 12pm EST. I will also be doing one for Hockey after Price signs ;) 

  257. Aaron13 says:

    Nice flowers on your pic…hehehe

  258. Mark C says:

    Found this on Rockstrom:

    Nicklas Lidstrom, D, Detroit, 1989 (53rd overall): In 1989, teams still were wary about European players. In that regard, Detroit’s management was on the cutting edge. Then-Wings director of scouting Neil Smith and European bird dog Christer Rockstrom deserve the credit for this pick. Lidstrom, who just won his fifth Norris Trophy, will be a first-ballot Hall of Famer”.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/draft2007/columns/story?id=2910106

    Great story about Lidstrom and how Detroit “hid” him: http://hockeytownblog.com/2009/05/26/si-how-the-red-wings-eurocentric-draft-in-89-transformed-them-into-the-best-pro-sports-franchise-in-north-america/

    Have also read that Rockstrom had a lot to do with drafting Lundqvist.

    Rockstrom reccomended Hakan Anderson has his replacement in DET: 

    http://futureconsiderationsdotca.wordpress.com/2010/05/28/red-wings-built-on-european-scouting-success/

    Rockstrom reccomended Konstantinov based on the 1987 WJC fight: http://hockeytownblog.com/2009/07/07/si-article-where-are-they-now-vladimir-konstantinov/

    Carl Hagelin at U of Michigan is considered Rockstrom lastest late draft steal: http://rangers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=530952

     

  259. mike g says:

    You can look at it the other way too…

    Only 1 team wins the championship every year. To say that success from an owners standpoint can only be based on Cups is rediculous. The salary cap has killed the possiblity of repeats, and teams will be lucky if they can win twice in 5 years in the future.

    So should success from the owners perspective not be based on profit, then? I think that’s a good measuring method, because as an owner if you’re not in it for the money, you’re not in it. If you tell a rich businessman that he can buy a team that will win 3 Cups in a row for 500 mill, but they will lose 20 mill or more per year, he still wouldn’t buy it. In the end, franchises are there to make money.

    So like you said, Gainey did a great job at being a “new type” of general manager, and not such a great job at being an “old school” GM who builds a team to win Cups. Gainey’s boss was the owners of this franchise, and if he puts money in their pockets every single year, they’re happy. They’re not gonna fire him, they know his chances of winning the Cup are 1 in 30, and that’s if all teams are equal. Add into that equation that teams aren’t all equal, and Gainey’s chances of winning are even lower.

    So the owners perhaps look at it from the pov that if the GM can keep my team competitive and make me money, I like him. Sucks to say it, but with so many teams in all of sports these days, owners might think like this…

     

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  260. sholi2000.com says:

    Almost every team in the NHL has “years of mediocrity”.  That’s the NHL now, people have to stop livin in the past looking for glory.  Those days are done. I’m just happy to turn the game on now and be entertained. 

     

    They Call Me Shane

  261. coachdoug says:

    Talbot calling OV a douche…priceless!

    http://www.1059thex.com/cc-common/podcast.html

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  262. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Talbot’s right,  he is a major douche.

  263. SeriousFan09 says:

    So says the teammate of Matt Cooke.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  264. Mark C says:

    The great Stevie Y has just started contract talks with RFA Steve Downie. What is wrong with management down there? Don’t they know some team could send an offer sheet his way, or maybe, just maybe Downie will hold out? Oh no, this can’t be happening. 

    http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/lightning/content/gm-steve-yzerman-says-he-wants-steve-downies-contract-done-soon-possible

  265. andrewberkshire says:

    Yeah, the president of the Blues said it.

  266. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    thanks, I knew I read that somewhere.  I hate it when people come here and spread misinformation.

  267. The Cat says:

    Its not misinformation, I put the link, if you can read french.

  268. GrimJim says:

    Not you spreading misinformation but maybe Perron. He might be trying to minimize the loss of Eller for Blues fans, or he might be disparaging a (former) potential rival for a roster spot or he might not have liked Eller’s chatting to Perron’s girlfriend at the Blues Xmas party, or he might be bang on totally correct and Davidson is wrong. I say thank you for the information, Cat, and we’ll never know if Eller would have made the Blues because now he’s a Hab.

  269. The Cat says:

    Youre welcome Grimjim! He could be trying to minimize, or to make it look like the blues made out like bandits in the trade.

  270. SeriousFan09 says:

    Let me be the person to throw out the first complaint.

    AH!!! OLD MEN!!! PG CRONYISM!!!

    There, now no one has to post for the rest of the day since I covered the bases.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  271. Mark C says:

    Don’t forget that they fired 6 scouts, but have only hired 3 new ones. Their going cheap!!!!!11!!1

  272. BJ says:

    Looking at some of where these guys came from I don’t really see any big +’s. When you pick out of organizations like NYR, NYI, Phoenix/Winnipeg Jets- not exactly success incarnate organizations. I guess the mediocracy at the top selects accordingly.

    Reading the news on the French side I see how Guy Boucher is bringing in a lot of Quebec boys on board. MAB’s agent claims that Tampa may also be interested in his services. If ever that team is successful this coming season and we are not Gauthier is on the employment line. The pressure from the French media will put enough pressure on the Molson’s to make that happen. And in my opinion rightly so. I truly miss the French Canadian flavor on the team, its certainly is/was a big part of the identity of the CH. I predict that Patrick Roy will be involved in some capacity at the latest for the 2011-12 season.

  273. HabFanSince72 says:

    Roy would be interesting, that’s for sure.

  274. SeriousFan09 says:

    If the ownership folds to media pressure from self-righteous xenophobes, screw them. You know why the Canadiens are lacking that French-Canadian element? Because Quebec hockey sucks. The top-scoring forward drafted out of the Q in the last 10 years is Jason Pominville! No. 2 is the oft-concussed Patrice Bergeron!

    Lecavalier’s career is on the downside with all his shoulder surgeries, Gagne is oft-injured and Briere is an injury case as well. Most durable, reliable scoring forward is Martin St. Louis from the Quebec ranks and he’s locked up for his career in TB now. Why would we want MAB? Defensive sieve with a tenth of the talent Subban is bringing to the table next season. Same with Belanger, career 3rd/4th liner and would want extra money no less because his agent is talking about him having a 60-point season when he’s never broken out of the 40s.

    Patrick Roy is going to do what for MTL btw? I keep hearing he should be brought in for what capacity? He’s got no AHL or NHL experience. Tired of hearing this crap, bring in the amateur because this time it will work.

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  275. HabFanSince72 says:

    The Bakersfield Condors?

     

  276. TripleX says:

    TheHockeyNews 

    A. Ponikarovsky signs 1 yr/$3 million deal w/ LA. Kings fans: he’s a streaky-scoring nice guy w/ capacity for bad penalties @ bad times.

     

     

    “We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars” – Oscar Wilde

  277. Mark C says:

    Detroit picked Lidstrom, Fedorov, and Konstantinov in 1989, some food for thought. The Rangers have been one of the most successful team in terms of getting Euro talent. Rockstrom seems like a great pick up.

  278. Clay4bc says:

    Actually, I’m glad we hired some scouts (more would be nice), but a New York Islander’s reject? That does not inspire confidence.

    Come to think of it, the Isle’s did have some good players – just stupid GM’s who traded them away for nothing. Maybe he’s good after all…I guess time will tell.

    __________________________

    Carey Price killed my dog.

  279. SeriousFan09 says:

    Good scout stuck on a bad team moving on to greener pastures is my way of looking at it, tired of doing all the work and seeing the team blow it because the GM/owner/coach is an idiot or they just don’t have any money.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  280. BJ says:

    Bad teams get early picks and the bad team is still bad. How bad is the scouting? Or as in the NYI case they traded away all their assets with bad GM Milbury. And as for the scouts its easier to be a good scout when you get early picks-theoretically.

  281. Clay4bc says:

    Yeah, that’s pretty much what I’m sayin’…

    __________________________

    Carey Price killed my dog.

  282. mike g says:

    My bet is on Pouliot having a better year..

    Maybe not more points than AK, but for Pouliots career, I think it will have to be a better year for him. He’s playing for his future, not inly a contract. If he has a 10-15 goal season, it wont look good for a nice 3 year deal. But if he scores 20 or more and plays well, he might merit a decent contract for a 4th overall pick.

    And if AK scores 25-30, and adds the same amount of assists, most people won’t be surprised since we’ve been waiting for it to happen. We know he has talent, and weve seen him score 25+ goals. Even though he’s playing for a contract too, I think he will get one with someone no matter how well he plays.

    So from a career standpoint, I think it’s a bigger year for Pouliot.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.


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