Andrei Markov is finally off Injured Reserve.
The defenceman will be available for the Saturday night game in Vancouver.
His participation will be a game-time decision after Markov warms up with his teammates.
Randy Cunneyworth said he would dress seven defencemen if Markov is able to play. Markov’s minutes will be managed, dependent on how the Dman is feeling and the situations in the game.
Markov has not played since Nov. 13, 2010, when his surgically repaired right knee was re-injured in a collison with Eric Staal.
Markov was not available to the media after the Canadiens’ morning skate.
We were told he would talk after the game … if he plays.
A few Canucks were on the ice at 10:30 Vancouver time.
The Canadiens’ morning skate started 45 minutes later.
Fans were staking out the players entrance early.
Also, video from the Canucks room.
Only six players, including goaltenders Roberto Luongo and Schneider, skated.
“I’m not a big believer in Morning skates and never have been,” said Alain Vigneault. The Vancouver coach had most of his squad look at some video and talk about their game plan.
“With teams we don’t see a lot, we concentrate on our game and on what we have to do to be successful,” Vigneault said.
Henrik Sedin had his son in the room.
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Im on ipod touch.
Don’t mind continuing to be Boone as long as the few of us here keep chipping in…
Plus its so long to write on my ipod
Is everybody able to access right now on IPhone or there are some on other smart phones. Trying to see if it’s the IPhone or the app that makes it possible for us to post?
I’ll try but it takes so long to post
Ive tried just tellin my buddy what was happening once. He told me i sucked. But i can do my best
Ah, thanks. Want to take over for the second? We’re in this together, you know
Good job being Boone
Eller has so much potential. I hope he keeps improving.
Your doing a good job, keep it up
I expect a check from somebody at HIO for the first period blogging.
End of the 1st, no goal. Canucks will be on the power play at the beginning of the second period
Bad penalty from Subban. A bit too aggressive against Kesler after a big hit on the Canuck player
1:42 Eller comes close. Draws a power play for Mtl
Markov keeping it simple so far. Still smooth with the puck. Haven’t been to the corners
1 shot on goal? That’s awful
Incapable of getting the puck out of the defensive zone. But the contingent of Habs faithful in the stands are trying to keep their spirits high
Shots 12-1 Vancouver! These guys appear to be standing pass their bed time
No live blog on iPhone here too!
Price with a nice glove save
Edit: Cole
Coke coming close
Price facing a barrage of shots so far…
Ok, was trying to confirm whether that’s the reason we have access. Boone isn’t on either, should she share the role of the blogger-in-chief? Let’s pretend we are Boone with less of a crush on Lars Eller
Yeah I am…don’t know why it does this every once in awhile
Kimberly, looks like it’s you and me. Are you on IPhone like me?
What’s wrong with this site? Where’s everybody?
Pricey just poke checked the puck, ah! Would like to see the active stick more often
I laughed at that too…can’t wait to see Markov and if we get one power play goal from him it will be worth it
Oake musing that Markov went through the warm-up unharmed …
So nice to see. At one point, I doubted Markov was still alive
This site is gone stupid again
There was some talk about Hamilton in the play-offs lately. Have been boycotting checking Standings this season for “some reason” but just did. They are Tanking for HH also and set dead last in their conference just like the “big club”.
Nice to see the depth of the Habs organization at work here. No problem with an immediate turn around. Hopefully this summer the Habs will make a big splash in free agency and build a contender over night.
Kinda like the Rangers?
How theymanage to continue to sign players to gomez style contracts and compete is beyond me. Drury, Redden, Gaborik, Richards, Gomez, etc, etc. I mean they have to be paying out double what they bring in.
Ditch the big contracts in the minors, or buy-out.
Why any big free agent would sign with them is beyond me.
It is always the contacts lenth that will kill a team.SO stop giving long deals.no longer then 5 YRS.No mater who!Hello Price Inc.
I don’t think the habs ever have.
Holik,Kasparitis,Rosival,
4 or 5 Bulldogs have been playing for the Habs all season due to injuries to the big club. I have no problem with our depth. We have a great bunch graduating from Junior and College that will make the Bulldogs a strong contender next year.
“They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
Carey Price
That guy from the Chech Elite League will put things right!
Are you speaking of Beauregard?
The bulldogs could be the best team in AHL next year with all our picks turning pro together! Not since Chellios and and the gang do the Habs have so much talent all at once. AND the CUP followed!!
Herb Carnegie died today at 92. If you are not aware, he was probably the best Black Canadian player to be excluded from playing in the NHL.
NY Times covered it on the front page of today’s sports section: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/10/sports/hockey/herb-carnegie-dies-trailblazer-never-got-his-nhl-shot.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=herb%20carnegie&st=cse
Interesting, Jean Beliveau said he learned to pass watching Herb play, as a kid and later as a young pro playing with him in Quebec.
Canadiens clear the board of the final games. Squeek into the playoffs by point point and win the cup. Dam there goes our top draft pick. Go Habs Go.
Is there anyone else wondering what the situation would of been like if they had scoped his knee after the first setback late summer instead of waiting for the 2nd setback and scoping his knee in early December. He would of been in the lineup in December instead of March. Maybe a different season for the Habs with a lot less minutes for Campoli and Weber, and nost likely no Kaberle. Maybe we would not be selling at the deadline. Yeah I know, and if my aunt had balls.
“They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
Carey Price
If only we sold more than one guy. Just of the UFA’s WTF are Moen, Campoli, and Darche doing here? Trade them for 8th rounds picks in 2017, there is no point to their being here.
There need to be buyers and there were none for Campoli. Moen and Darche were injured (and therefore not tradeable) otherwise they are perfect guys for a bottom 6 playoff run.
we would still be treading water. we might be in a better spot to be making the playoffs but changes need to be made and its only going to happen if we fail.
we need a fresh gm a fresh coach and having a chance to get a top 5 draft pick hasnt happened since Price.
Anyone know if PG.orBG. tried to move our dead weigth for draft picks. Everyone except the duo captains on this sinking ship know who is on the dead meat list. It is hard to believe the HABS could not have got some late round picks for our sad D.I HAVE A BBB-BAD FELLING THAT THEIR WERE NOT OFFERED. WHICH WAS A CRIME.If so The FANS should be chanting FIRE PG&BG !!!!
The 2nd surgery was a much different surgery in that it was a reconstruction of the ACL using the Patella tendon, as opposed to the first procedure which was essentially just suturing the ACL back together at the tear. While it it would have been nice to have cleaned the debris prior to the 2nd procedure, at that point I suspect the priority was getting the ACL repaired the best and strongest way possible.
I have said before, I have no idea why the Habs did not have his firstprocedure done by Dr. Andrews who is widely considered to be the best.
I am very confident his ACL will be fine, the mental part and the rust will be the bigger issue.
HiB, I think you mentioned that your significant other is an OR nurse before, so I don’t doubt your knowledge, but the 1st reconstruction I believe was done with the ‘traditional’ muscle graft, where a piece of muscle is taken from somewhere (usually a hamstring), or from a tendon taken from a cadaver. The technique you described as being used for the 1st procedure on Mr. Markov isn’t possible. When an ACL ruptures, the ends are too frayed, and the joint under too much tension to be just sutured together.
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You are correct my mistake, the problem with the first one was it is considered the quickest to rehab and doesn’t provide the strength of the patella tendon. Yes I described the first procedure wrong, I was oversimplifying the difference in the two procedures. My significant other is not a nurse, but 2 of my brothers had ACL surgery and a very good friend of mine had the patella reconstruction like Markov. I have been wearing them all out with questions.
Yeah, living in Whistler is like being in the Center of the ACL Reconstruction Universe, to borrow a phrase. Friends blowing out their ACL’s is almost inevitable, like divorces or automobile collisions. I’ve been to a few pity parties where the patient is surrounded with friends, everyone brings food for their convalescence, magazines, books, videos.
I’ve been lucky so far, I only ever had a Grade 2 MCL strain, from falling on a rail while trying to do an easy 50-50. Because it was an easy trick, I didn’t focus, and wound up doing rehab for a couple of months, but was back on the snow that season. Credit goes to my football and rugby coaches who would harangue us to do squats instead of arm curls in the gym (“But coach, we have to do curls for the girls!…”), my quads are pretty strong and helped stabilize and rehab the joint pretty quickly.
Also common here are the ACL reconstructions that ‘don’t take’ and need to be redone, or those that go so well that the patient gets overconfident, goes up the hill for a few easy runs, against the doctor’s strict orders, and pops it and has to go through the whole process again. So I didn’t panic when Andrei’s rehab wasn’t as smooth as we’d like. In the same breath, I am very impressed that Josh Gorges seems as good as new, with heavy use and no further symptoms or pain from what we know.
I think what we’ll find out when all is said and done is that Andrei overtrained, over-exerted himself and tried to work through pain instead of easing off, in his haste to get back in action, which I’ve seen before and which we can forgive.
If anyone is still reading this, please bear in mind also that these techniques have nothing in common with what poor Bobby Orr went through, that guy was butchered and had his career ended not by the injuries but by surgeons who didn’t know better and scraped off all his knee cartilage.
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I believe this procedure was explained quite thoroughly and succinctly on an episode of “Marcus Welby,MD”.
Back in Marcus Welby’s day, they would have amputated.
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from Wikipedia:
Autograft vs. allograft
An autograft involves the medical grafting of bone or tissue from the patient’s body.
An allograft is the use of bone or tissue from a donor’s (typically a cadaver’s) body.
The patellar tendon, anterior tibialis tendon, or Achilles tendon may be recovered from a cadaver and used as an allograft in reconstruction. The Achilles tendon, due to its large size, must be shaved to fit within the joint cavity. There is a slight chance of rejection, which would lead to more surgery to remove the graft and replace it.
Sterilization processes exist today that make allografts a safe choice for patients. However, with allografts that are irradiated to remove infectious agents, there is a risk of weakening the selected tendon, although for ACL surgery the weakened tendon is generally as strong as the replaced ligament.[1] Even with the extensive and redundant screening process for irradiated donor grafts, a risk of infection remains and it would be cause to remove the graft. Therefore, the option to use an irradiated allograft runs the largest health risk.
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Patellar tendon
The patellar tendon connects the patella (kneecap) to the tibia (shin). The graft is taken from the injured knee, but in some circumstances, such as a second operation, the other knee may be used. The middle third of the tendon is used, with bone fragments removed on each end. The graft is then threaded through holes drilled in the tibia and femur, and finally screwed into place.
The graft is slightly larger than a hamstring graft, however graft size is not a determinant of outcome. The most important factor in determining the outcome is correct graft placement.
The disadvantages include: 1. Increased wound pain. 2. Increased scar formation as compared to a hamstring tendon operation. 3. Risk of fracturing the patella during harvesting of the graft. 4. Increased risk of tendinitis. 5. Increased levels of pain with activities that require kneeling years after post op.
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Hamstring tendon
Hamstring autografts are made with the semitendinosus tendon either alone, or accompanied by the gracilis tendon for a stronger graft. The semitendinosus is an accessory hamstring (the primary hamstrings are left intact), and the gracilis is actually not a hamstring, but an accessory adductor (the primary adductors are left intact as well). The two tendons are commonly combined and referred to as a four strand hamstring graft, made by a long piece (about 25 cm) which is removed from each tendon. The tendon segments are folded and braided together to form a quadruple thickness strand for the replacement graft. The braided segment is threaded through the heads of tibia and femur and its ends fixated with screws on the opposite sides of the two bones.
Unlike the patellar tendon, the hamstring tendon’s fixation to the bone can be affected by motion in the post-operative phase. Therefore, following surgery, a brace is often used to immobilize the knee for one to two weeks while the most critical healing takes place. Evidence suggests that the hamstring tendon graft does just as well, or nearly as well, as the patellar tendon graft in the long-term[citation needed].
Many patients struggle with recovery after a hamstring graft procedure. Problems include strengthening of the quadriceps, T-band and calf. Proper healing procedures and medical care (physical therapy) are essential to regain strength.
The main surgical wound is over the upper proximal tibia, avoiding the typical pain sensation when one kneels down. The wound is typically smaller than the patellar tendon graft and hence less pain after the operation. A new technique for minimal-invasive harvesting from the back of the knee has been developed in the last years. This technique is faster, easier and produces a significantly smaller wound.[2] This procedure is typically an outpatient procedure.
There seems to be some controversy as to how well a hamstring tendon regenerates after the harvesting. Most studies suggest that the tendon can be regenerated at least partially, while still being inferior in strength to the original tendon.[3][4]
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Canadiens website said hours ago Markov would play tonight. Delightful surprise, let’s see what he’s got left.
mcl-blog.blogspot.com
Bob McKenzies says Hi……
If they put him in, I figure it would be for the powerplay and see how he holds up.
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Sure hope Markov understands that we are not out to win anything but a 1st over all draft pick!
Their screwing with our tank Ian!
I think Vancouver wants to see if he can play for them and their bid of a cup this year. If so we get their 1st two picks in exchange.
Screw the Tank, go for the win.
Richard R
Why do you think we’re playing him? They went and won a 4-pointer on Thursday so put the 1-legged guy in! If they win tonight, expect the Habs to recall Red-light Racicot!
“man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh
Habs will draftfrom anywhere inbetween2 and 5.EDM,will trade down from 2 to 3 to take a D,Habs get hot@#$% drop to 5 or worse.We are in the running for one of top forwards excert Nail,he will jion “Nash with the cash” . we should take the best forward WHAT ONE? doesn’t matter because they are all slated to be stars not superstars.{maybe Nail playing with Nash}.Thats why we should trade some off our strong D pool and maybe one of our young forwards coming up for Nathan MacKinnon the 5’11” next SUPERSTAR CENTER”.We have the talent esp. with this years top 5 pick and our super d youth.
I’ve just heard word from a reliable source that Markov is out for another 6 weeks after visiting the Habs medical specialist for a routine before game examination.
It appears he sustained an injury during the knee jerk reflex test.
HH—I corrected one of your words here.
Habs medical specialist for a poutine
Actually, he happened to break wind during that test and the additional stress popped his cartilage.
Like all your “reliable sources” on everything else…
So now we know Tony Marinaro and HH are one in the same.
My source is the same as the one for Rodney Dangerfield and Milton Berle.
Welcome back Andrei.
Hope you can play tonight & stay healthy. Also hoping your return means no more Webber.
Good column by Bruce Dowbiggin on the groundswell of opposition to the direction HNIC has taken. Issues raised are the Toronto-centric bent of the show, and the meandering focus of Coaches Corner.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/bruce-dowbiggin/angry-nhl-clubs-ganging-up-on-hnic-cbc/article2365289/
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My problem with HNIC is the friggin crew. What’s the attraction with Mike”anger management”Millburry, PJ Stock & so on. They need to have a mix other than Leafs/Bruins and their panel should not show any bias IMO.
The headline on this post makes me laugh: “Markov Activated”. It sounds like they’re talking about a sinister weapon.
SCENE: a futuristic laboratory, perhaps buried deep within a mountain, with lots of glowing electronic screens. Pierre Gauthier and Larry Carriere are there. Carriere reads a report as Gauthier stares cryptically into the distance.
CARRIERE: … and so, sir, the Canadiens are now 3rd last in the league, and could finish as low as 29th. Drafting Grigorenko is a lock. Operation Tank is a complete success!
GAUTHIER: (Pause) Activate … the Markov.
CARRIERE: (Taken aback) But … sir. That will ruin everything! Our fans have suffered so much and a high draft pick is all they’re clinging on to! Think of those poor losers on Hockey Inside Out, they’re desperate.
GAUTHIER: (snaps) Activate the Markov!!
CARRIERE: … I had no idea how truly evil you are, your Vegan-ness.
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Hilarious, Perhaps the only possible way PG addresses Markov without calling him Mr.
Hilarious. Thanks for the laugh!!
+2012.
The Gauthier Apocalypse Continues.
Can totally imagine that. Good job, lol.
Enfin! After a year and almost 4 months. Let’s just hope his left knee will hold on.
Welcome back Andrei Markov!
This team needs Markov in the lineup right now like a hole in the head! My God, for once, can’t this jackass organization do the right thing so we get a decent draft pick! We need more Gomer and Campoli and the B-man in net. Give up the ghost! Spring at the Belle Center is going to be just one big extended Celine Dion run.
And keep Beauregard Boris Levishefsky under your hat. I hear the Red Wings European scout has been on him like stink on a skunk!
Haha! I was thinking the same thing while watching the Habs-Oilers game.
“Y U No TANK RIGHT???”
Don’t get all worked up. So long as we keep using that Campoli/Kabernac pairing, our draft pick is safe. Not even a healthy Doug Harvey could counter that combo.
Good article detailing the board of governors meeting with CBC in which Burke spoke of his buddy Cherry.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/bruce-dowbiggin/angry-nhl-clubs-ganging-up-on-hnic-cbc/article2365289/
funny that even the leafs are complaining , but like it says its an managment problem which people dont seem to want to talk about , must be something to it
There was a comment made by someone, Leafs complain about all the negative attention they receive, other teams complain of the lack of attention they receive from CBC. Kind of funny.
I hope the Jets make it, but how humorously awkward would it be for HNIC if the only Canadian teams were Vancouver and Ottawa haha?
Will the Prodigal Son return tonight and begin spoiling the Year of the Tank? Only 5 1/2 hours to wait to find out…
I am pretty pumped, adding Markov back to our lineup healthy along with a high pick is a significant upgrade.
It’s like we traded Campoli for Markov.
Markov’s last return had him score 2 goals. I know, it was versus the Isles but still, was a fun game.
Bill – Everything I have ever read states that Forsberg is a right-handed shot who plays LW. That doesn’t mean he can’t switch over but left wing is still the weakest position on the team (and in the system).
… that’s a pretty good point, actually. Like everyone else, I’m all wrapped up in dreaming about that mythical Big Centre With Skill.
Either way, I’m liking Forsberg more and more. He’s almost a year younger than a lot of the other guys in the top of the draft, and playing pro already. Big power forward … looks like gold.
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Looking back at the Habs of lore the centres were not that big. Just shifty.
I like the two power forward wingers with the smallish centre approach. That leaves either little room or stiff competition for the Giontas and Gallaghers of the world.
Nevertheless, a power forward first line centre would be gravy.
Although I’m not sure Markov will help this team much this year, I’m glad to hear he’s back. If he (and everyone else) is back and healthy next year, even without any major changes, I think we have a decent team. In the last 4 years, the team’s record with Markov is 70-43-17… or a pace of 99 points for 82 games. With Markov out, the team’s record is 80-82-22, or a pace of 81 points per 82 games.
Although we don’t know if he’ll be the elite player he was (I believe he will be), I also think the Habs have improved play without him… as demonstrated by the 40-27-8 record without him last year… This year, I just think we had some bad luck and some bad injuries. Next year will be much better… and a high draft pick this spring will be a nice bonus!
Gauthier will be sitting on the edge of his seat for the rest of the season… not anticipating the outcome of the games, but every time Markov goes into the corner… cold sweats…
I think we all will be!!!
Les Boyz,
I’m really stoked about Markov comming back. I have a good feeling about him for tonight. I see him scoring a PP goal, down low on a cross ice feed from DD. I’ve had that dream twice this week…uncanny really…but true. I had great plans to go to the game but am stuck here with unexpected family visit so it’ll have to be TV.
Go Habs! Go!
Bear
D’ya know what Gomez’s main problem is?
He shaved that long hair off after leaving New Jersey… hasn’t been the same since.
Yeah, that’s it…
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Ya..sort of like when Samson lost his hair.
Gomez with a mullet! That would bring the season into focus, in an aesthetically meaningful way….
So Bob Mckenzies tweets and I quote “@dorvalTony now you’re just being stupid and I grow weary of you. BTW your hat is missing it’s string and whistle. Au revoir”. Hmmm could it be the same Tony we know?
Same…..
yes, dorvaltony doesn’t just troll HI/O. He is also an active twitter troll as well.
Twitter Trolling Tony.
That’s alliteration,you know.
Tony the Twitter Trolling Twit.
Richard R
If someone is “growing weary” of him, it’s probably the same guy…
So this guy was acting stupid on Twitter and annoyed people? That can’t possibly be our DorvalTony.
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I just read the exchange – Tony was fuming over “the gay agenda” nonsense.
He really is a maroon.
I agree wholeheartedly with everything except for the “it’s”
Ha! I guess us we’re not the only poor folks who have to encounter that fool. He briefly tried to follow and troll me on Twitter, took about five seconds to block him.
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Haha. He knows better than to follow me. And I know better than to follow you.
I have to wonder if the Habs were not able to get insurance on Markov’s knee injury for his latest stint on the IR, because this was an “pre-existing condition”. I thought NHL teams could only insure players against injuries they didn’t already have, or had in the past. If I’m correct, then Molson’s had to pay Markov’s salary directly out of their own pockets. Does anyone know exactly how this works ?
If AM plays in the World Championships can the Habs get insurance if he get injured there?
Hopefully we/he can see at what level he will be able play for the rest of the season so there is some reason for good or bad exptations for next year. Also Heaven forbid he gets injured again but we have to know how the knee will hold up.
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No Guts No Glory
Markov back, Gomez with a gait in his stride, do I smell playoffs?
Hmm, I still smell Campoli. So I think we’re safe.
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No, I believe that’s Kaberle you’re smelling.
But do you smell what the Rock is cookin?
U can’t C me!
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Mr. Biter
No Guts No Glory
haha…or as my man Stone Cold would say …” and that’s all I gotta say about that ! “
Did someone just say they should wait for the Sens game to play Markov”omg”….Zenon ,Neil and Canc are drooling
Filip Forsberg listed as a centre on the NHL.com draft rankings, but listed as a winger by TSN: anyone have any idea what position he currently plays?
If he can play centre … might be the Habs’ guy!
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Plekanec is a winger that converted to centre.
Haha, it shows in his faceoff stats!
I think Forsberg at centre is the best pick the Habs could make at #3. That, obviously, is based on scouting reports, so …
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Boomer posted this on the previous thread, but it looks like Grigorenko is still ranked #2 overall and the highest ranked center…..not that that necessarily means he’ll develop to be the best down the road.
http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=57124
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I see the Habs picking 3rd or 4th and I doubt Grigorenko will be available there. I would take him. There’s a random TSN article slamming him and it’s getting a lot of buzz, but there are too many good scouting reports on him to dismiss the talent.
I’m sure the Habs are heavily scouting him, and Timmins et al will have a good read on Grigorenko’s drive and work-ethic.
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Perhaps it is my affinity to gambling but I want Galchenyuk, highest upside in my opinion. Plus I hear Dr. Andrews is moving his practice from Alabama up to Montreal. He and Markov have become very close.
Ugh, nooooo …. I’m not worried about his injury, so much, but he’s been out all year and it’s now impossible to compare him with the other high-end players. You need to show something in your draft year to go top five, IMO.
Now, I’m sure Galchenyuk is as good as everyone says, and he’s going to be a gift for someone at around pick #7 or #8, but I’d rather see the Habs grab a sure thing.
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That’s where we are going to be drafting Bill, Gomez got his groove back, didn’t ya hear?
I’m sure Gomez has gone back to sleep by now. And Markov will be eased in. Don’t harsh my mellow!
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Hockeys Future has him Listed at LW – http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/filip_forsberg
Personally, I think he’s the best option for the draft even if the habs draft 1st overall.
~I never said it. Honest.~
It’s weird how TSN has Grigorenko and Forsberg listed as Centers. Both of these players are paying wing this year and are draft eligible based on their points put up as wingers. Doesn’t that basically mean they will play wing in the NHL?
Grigorenko is a RW not a center. Filip Forsberg is a LW, not a center…. Doesn’t make them any worse as draft picks, but they are not going to be “the big center we’ve needed in Montreal for 15 years”… Best shot at that is Radek Faksa…. or possibly Glychenyuk… though I don’t know how I feel about gambling on him. It sounds like if you want to draft a Center and you’re picking third, you could always trade down 4 or 5 positions and draft Faksa there.
“Let’s be clear on the facts…”
Grigorenko plays centre, he’s 18th in the Q in faceoffs taken.
Forsberg is listed as LW on TSN I believe. NHL.com has him as a centre. Weird.
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Every damn website has forward positions mixed and all over the place. How are WE, supposed to TWEAK LINES???
InCONceivable!
Carey’s new mask!
http://www.auction.legendsdepot.com/CAREY-PRICES-NEW-MASK-GET-THE-FIRST-LOOK-HERE-AT-LEGENDSDEPOTCOM,name,109484,auction_id,auction_details
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And the road to the 10th over-all pick begins.
Exactly. I’m going to be totally pissed if the Habs don’t finish in the bottom five after all the crap their fans have had to go through this year.
My biggest fear is that we’re going to pass Toronto.
The Leafs were hanging by a thread before, and now with the injuries they’ve sustained, it’s entirely possible they will fall to last place, but I hope not.
I was hoping that beating the Habs last week under their new coach would spark them to staying at 9th or 10th.
No Lupul and no goaltending means that Carlyle has already started training camp even though there are still 16 games left.
Burke would be wise to grab a blue chipper at centre, just like we would. It appears that four years into his gig his Toronto makeover has stalled. He should have gone for a total rebuild but tried to have it both ways.
Lots of lessons to be learned by all.
The Leafs’ collapses are quite interesting. It’s so easy to vent about losing games by 1 goal or blowing many leads, but the Leafs in the past few years have applied that concept to their entire season.
Did Burke really talk about building from the net out? If so, I just can’t believe it. The most glaring weaknesses are on defense and in goal. I mean, is the D just having a bad end of season or are they just bad? I seem to remember the Leafs winning many times because they could outscore their opponents despite letting in a fair amount of goals.
Do you really think that Markov can help this stinker of a one line team? Get real. Have many drinks. Get tanked.
Making up 10 points in the standings with 14 games remaining is pretty unlikely.
Nice article on Tinordi, he’s up to 213 lbs. well on this way to being a 225+ lbs beast.
http://www.cyberpresse.ca/sports/hockey/201203/10/01-4504289-jarred-tinordi-un-homme-parmi-les-enfants.php?utm_categorieinterne=trafficdrivers&utm_contenuinterne=cyberpresse_B9_sports_257_accueil_POS4
The future is bright. Back end is essentially done, patience is all that is required from fans. If Eller, Pacioretty, and Desharnais continue to develop at the rate they have been, we’ll have a very respectable team in about 2 – 3 years. Stay the course PG.
This summer will tell a tall tale as to whether the Habs are intent on winning a championship in a few years or would rather make the play-offs next season at the cost of never winning more than 2 rounds for the next decade.
You tell ‘em! Have you submitted your resume yet?
Just checked in to the hotel by Rogers Arena. Can’t wait for game time.
Dennis-Kane.com
Watch out for any impending riots.
Keep an eye out for Jeff Gilooly or Shawn Eckhart, we don’t need them anywhere near Markov’s knee ala Nancy Kerrigan/Tanya Harding.
If I’m Habs management, I wait until the Wednesday game at home vs Ottawa to play Markov. The Bell Centre crowd has put up with a lot this year. They deserve a little ‘bonbon’. We’re not under pressure to win any of those games anyway. If Crosby is not playing until Thursday, why start Markov on the road right away?
I like HabinBurlington’s joke about wanting to be there for that first Markov shift people have said will end his career
Have a feeling the knee will be fine.
Contrary to some, I want to see him play a few games this season just so everybody knows whether he can be counted on next year.
@dorvaltony. Re- Gionta being lame and a bust.
So I guess you don’t care about a player who has scored more goals for us in both previous seasons than Erik Cole has for us this season.
Gionta has 37 and 31 goals for us including playoffs in the last 2 season.
Yeah, I don’t get why Gionta takes so much flak. 1) He has great work ethic. 2) He scores goals, which is sorely needed on this team. 3) He’s not soft, goes to the front of the net and battles hard. 4) He’s decent in the shootout, which is a lot better than 7/8 of the team.
Sure, the Gionta-Pleks-Cammy line wasn’t working out, but I don’t think it was because of Gionta. Maybe it’s his height? I’m actually genuinely puzzled by this.
I know why Gionta takes so much flak:
People are dumb.
I’ve been saaaaved!!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
It’s because he gets lumped in with Gomez and Cammalleri, and because he hasn’t been playing this year. If he were cruising along right now with 25 goals, it’d be different.
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How come the 3 videos from the Canucks’ dressing room are all out of focus,whereas the other 3 aren’t? Did Boone shoot all of them?
Boone shogt all of them. He is hopeless with technology … but not as bad as Hickey. Stubbs is Martin Scorsese. Perhaps you’ve seen his masterpiece, GoodGoalies?
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“GoodGoalies”. I believe that’s the movie with David Desharnais in the Joe Pesci role.
You find that amusing?
If Markov is playing, Ian you made need to cancel dancing with the stars and watch the game!
So is The General actually playing tonight, or has he just been moved to the active roster?
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Looks The General is gonna be running the PP tonight
Seriously?!?!?! If I could do a back flip, I would!
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and land on markov s knee
“Et le but!”
Tweeted from Bob Mckenzie
“Andrei Markov was placed on the active roster list this morning. He will be available for tonight’s game.”
Could it be! Lazarus has risen!
Must be talking about another team. Our so called active roster as been inactive for most of the season.
“Available” doesn’t necessarily mean he’s playing.
How can this be? Posters were just whining about how the Goat never placed him on LTIR.
long term injured reserve is different than injured reserve.
Anyone think that whenever Markov returns, it wouldn’t hurt to have RC do his 11-7 division again? Would be great to ease Markov back into the game.
Been thinking the same thing.
I think RC should with the GC 10-8 split.
Nope. If he’s ready, the Campoli has to sit.
Markov available for tonight’s game, as per RDS. Wow!
Future Mr. GM of Les Canadiens. Please do not draft Grigorenko. Lazy! Lazy! Lazy! A pick you will regret!
Mr. Bad Example!
i read a coach of his says he is a very hard worker on ths ice, he has a style that makes him appear as a floater.. so did Lemiuex. this kid has insane talent and with a draft that softer then the past years we dont really have too many options. we are looking at top 5 most likely 3rd pick.
i think the first 3 are looking like
columbus yakopuv
oilers Dumba
habs Gringorenko
it’s possible we might pick forsberg or galchenyuk(who will most likely hit top 5 rankings when he returns from his injury). I’m just praying we don’t pick a D man. I guess its up to edmonton, they need young D in their system and might go for one. Or they may take another forward.
i think top 4 we cant go wrong unless the new gm goes out into left field and drafts a kid way early. i am excited for the draft
I was watching Pittsburgh highlights and couldn’t help but notice how much high end depth they have. Is there anyone here who wouldn’t want us to be this good????
It was of course made possible by a bankruptcy scare that caused them to dump their players and start from scratch.
Through the draft they acquired: Crosby, Letang, Fleury, Malkin, Stall, etc. A sick amount of elite talent!
If we did move/ buy-out/ demote our vets: Gionta, Gomez, Kaberle, Campolli, Darche, Moen, Markov, Cole (hurts to include him) and only replace them with our own draft picks, we would probably tank for 2 more years.
We would watch young and promising talent lose for 2 more years, but for the 2014-2015 season, Price, Subban, Desharnais, Pacioretty, Eller, Leblanc, White, Emellin, Weber would be still in or entering their prime.
Add to that lottery picks for 2012, 2013, and 2014, plus six 2nd round picks, and a number of promising players currently in our system (Beaulieu, Gallagher, Ellis, Kristo, Tinordi, Bournival, Holland) and I (IMHO) believe we would have the best habs team we’ve seen since the 70′s. I’m not talking about acquiring good players, I’m talking about drafting superstars. Think about it, how did we get Price???? (drafted #5 overall)
Yes, draft picks don’t always pan-out, but I have faith in Timmins and our scouts. We can definitely draft players (developing them is another story).
No one wants to see our team lose, but since we have already tanked, I’d be willing to stay the course in order to avoid going back where we were, a mid-standing team with no realistic hope of drafting superstars or of winning the cup.
Attempting to fix this the quick way, through trades and free agency could see us lose valuable draft picks and end-up in the same position we are 4 years earlier (See Brian Burke!)
There’s a reason nearly none of the elite players in hockey play in Canada. G.M.’s here are under too much pressure to win immediately and therefore they make desperation moves (mortgage the future) in an attempt to squeeze into playoff spots. Sure there are exceptions (Sedins, Karlson, Price), but why do so few Canadian teams make the playoffs every year? Money is not the issue, management is.
There is only one way we will win the cup in the near future, and this moment is pivotal.
Sorry for unleashing a novel on u^^
j.p. murray
Sounds like the Oilers…
I think the draft is a great way to build up a team, but you can’t forget Pitt got a lot of their good depth players through trades and FA signings. Building up primarily through signings often backfires, but “tanking” and building through the draft does not work all the time. Pitt got lucky because they drafted Malkin and Crosby, what other team can say they got the two best players on their team?
The best model for building through the draft is probably Detroit, who acquired great players in later rounds and added some depth through other means.
I think what his means for the Habs is that we should continue to draft for the purpose of improving the team, while combining that with wise acquisitions.
Do you really want the Habs to suck for years and years a la Edmonton, Columbus, Islanders? Screw that! The Habs will be back next season. The Viggo called it!
Have never been a fan of the Canucks, but always enjoyed watching King Richard Brodeur when he took that team to the Cup Final
I miss the unis the Canucks had at the time.
Kind of blinding.
The only thing those unis were missing was all the advertisements that the European pro clubs have on them.
Those were the sickest uniforms ever.
And i am not 19 so when i say sickest i mean fugly
“Et le but!”
The one Canuck who truly impressed me was the Russian Rocket.
I watched Pavel Bure play at the Montreal Forum in the early 90s.
What struck me was, as he came off the bench, he would coast into an area, waiting for the puck so he could blitz down the ice.
He could coast for an entire shift, without his skates leaving the ice surface….not once! I mean just shifting his body weight from side to side, so he could coast, with no push-off effort whatsoever.
I’ve never seen an NHL player do that before or since. His skating ability was the best I’ve ever seen.
well put! he was a treat to watch.
Then you obviously never saw his brother Valeri on Battle of the Blades
. Just kidding Bri, yah he was something special.
So, next September we’ll have Gionta (the smartest player in the east), Markov, and Moen, That’s 3 first liners.
plus Darche
+ 1 ufa – i hope as good an acquisition as the fab Mr. Cole. Maybe a bone crushing d’man or a big point offense guy, whatever, a $5 million player.
+ a talented first rounder will be a nice addition in a couple of years.
So, next season, that’s the same as 4 new first line players to today’s baseline position. Whatever else mgt does to improve on the situation will make it better.
So, boys and girls, i think next season will be much better.
Are we putting Markov up front on the top line this year Kerrgte??
yes, a top 4 d’man with a terrific offensive ability. So i think yes, What do u think Ian?
his impact on the pp effectiveness will be huge – today’s pp stats are pathetic, but with Andrei back in the mix, this is 1 stat that will improve dramatically – (I think/hope).
I just hope he can play!
all fingers crossed
Gionta might be *the* lamest captain we’ve ever had. Another Gainey bust. They should have named Cammalleri captain, may have elevated – or *kept* Cammy’s game elevated.
Moen is an excellent fourth liner.
Markov hasn’t played in 2 years.
We do miss Darchie though.
“A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It’s a proof. A proof is
a proof. And when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.” – Jean Crooktien
Well I agree with 2 of your points, and thanks for the update on Markov, I had no idea he had missed any time? What is his injury?
Sarcasm factor 10! I like it.
I don’t agree. I think Moen has some upside. I think Gionta has another couple of good seasons before he loses a step. All fingers are crossed for Markov’s successful return.
I think Darche is a thinking big-body, 4th liner.
In this league of parity, with the return of just the 3 skilled guys of the team, that’s a lot of upside to today’s crummy line-up. Then add a new ufa, and the team will start to look good.
Success next season, I believe, is based on PG being either replaced, or provided a superior back-up advisory team
At the beginning of this season Moen was scoring goals and knocking them into the boards. Not too shabby.
Richard R
Gill should have been named captain in his first season – He was given The A the day he signed with Montreal but since Gionta was signed long term (5 years) it made more sense I guess…….
Speaking of lame. The argument that a played needed to be captain to make/keep him playing well is one of the lamest things ever. What kind of leadership do you expect to receive from a player who bases their effort on if they are captain or what?
Can you make up any more stats up Gionta?
how is gionta the smartest player in the east? who is the smartest in the west? I don’t understand your reasoning here. Gionta is marginally a first liner and Moen is no where close to being a first liner….
UFA pool is also very weak this year….
Here is the NHL draft rankings for 2012.
QHL has only 2 players in the top 50.
2012 Draft Prospects – North American Skaters – NHL.com – NHL …
http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftprospectbrowse.htm
All the more reason to cash in on Wonderbread bias against the Q. Like they’re reserved for us. Time to prove the McKenzies, Scouting Bureau TorStar, Globe et al wrong. J’ai le gout!
“A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It’s a proof. A proof is
a proof. And when you have a good proof, it’s because it’s proven.” – Jean Crooktien
DT, there is a reason the Q has been lacking lately but that is just “ignorance”. The rest of your stuff is just idiotic!
Tragic Canadian skier’s, Nik Zoricic , death after crash.
Any chance of Markov returning Monday vs the Sabres?
There’s a chance, but nothing has been confirmed as of yet.
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I think I would jump in the truck and drive down for that game if he was. I am told by many he will only play one more shift then his career will be over. I would be honored to see this final shift in a great Habs career.
Well,if you do go to the game,don’t expect too much from the Habs. They’ll have an enormous case of jet lag, given that there is a 3 hour difference in time zones,and there’s the adjustment to daylight savings time as well. That’s a 4 hour time difference.
Nothing a trip to the Anchor bar in Buffalo can’t cure.
Hadn’t thought about that.
Gerald, you clearly have great taste. Anchor Bar wings are beyond phenominal! Can’t tell you how many times I enjoyed them during the three years I lived in Buffalo!
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Twitter: @de_benny
@Mike, yup they are awesome. Try to go there every time I am in Buffalo.
Officials at CBC about to commit Hari Kari with Habs and Leafs both out of the playoffs.
Hope the Leafs win tonight, they’re getting too close to us!
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I hope he demonstrates to you and other Dr. Recchis on this site just how good he is. Maybe then you’ll smarten up. Somehow, though, I doubt it. That you’ll smarten up, I mean.
oh man.. those jokes thankfully died within 2 weeks
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coming from a gomez.
If gomez get’s bought out, who you gonna cheer for
coming from a gomez fan, lol.
If gomez get’s bought out, who you gonna cheer for
haha
finally, my first smile of the day, thanx
LOL
gracias. I needed that… I try so hard not to feed the trolls but sometimes they’re just so hungry.
LOL!
The future looks grammar free.
The Future is bright! WE have the NHL stongest core of Defensemen comong up Plus Subban and Emelin.WE have an Elite goalie,a top young power forward who can scorce in Pacioretty,A BIG top #2 center in Eller, Who [ could ] be a # 1 if given PP time and top 1 or 2 icetime.And some strong forwards also coming up this YR or next.Plus a high draft pick this yR BUT we could drop to as high as 9th.which would be BAD.BBBut if you look at our talent pool it is pretty stong.