Game 9: Canadiens snap losing streak


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• At a Glance: The Canadiens sent their Bell Centre fans home happy for the first time this season after posting a 5-1 win over the Philadelphia Flyers on Wednesday night. Montreal was 0-3-2 at home until defeating the Flyers, who scored their only goal 10:43 into the game. Jaromir Jagr, who was courted by the Canadiens during the offseason, was the goal scorer. Yannick Weber scored on the power play with three seconds to play in the period with a blast from the point that eluded Ilya Bryzgalov. The Canadiens got a pair of goals in the second period. Andrei Kostitsyn scored on a goal-mouth scramble when the puck went off his leg and slid under Brzygalov at 10:26. Max Pacioretty, who earned an assist on Kostitsyn’s goal, gave Montreal it’s first two-goal lead since the second game of the season at 12:38. Pacioretty would add his second of the game to give the Canadiens a 4-1 lead 3:16 into the third period, collecting a rebound in front of the Flyers net. Michael Cammalleri scored his third of the season at 15:36 of the third period to give the Canadiens a 5-1 lead. Pacioretty had suffered ligament damage in his right wrist on Monday night and was questionable for Wednesday’s game. Carey Price, who ditched his pink pads, finally earned his 100th career NHL win, one of the youngest goaltenders to reach the mark. Prior to the game, the Canadiens announced that assistant coach Perry Pearn had been fired.

• Keys moments: Carey Price made a huge save seconds before Pacioretty gave the Canadiens their two-goal lead in the second period, leading to a big swing in momentum.

• What It Means: The six-game losing streak is a thing of the past and the Canadiens improve to 2-5-2 on the season, giving them six points, the same number of points as the Bruins, their next opponent.

• What’s Next: The Canadiens play twice against the Bruins, Thursday in Boston and Saturday back at home. After that, they are off until Friday, Nov. 4 when they play in Ottawa.


  1. immortalhab says:

    OldSchoolHockey, I agree. I don’t know why the coaching staff in the biggest franchise in the world is so dumb. They need mental health intervention.

    To prepare for success, first fail. To prepare for wholeness, first be fragmented.

  2. bleublancrouge says:

    I previously posted that Price always plays bad when he switches up into gear he’s not comfortable in.
    I guess we will see tonight if I the trend continues but I expect a very good game from Carey.

  3. Gentlemen, a passionate group you are, but let’s be practical here. We won’t be healthy for at least a month (without more injuries). We will continue to get banged around as Blunden isn’t aggressive and Gil never takes it to the other team. We are, in a manner of speaking, ice follies, not gritty hockey players. That being said, the talents of Cammy can’t be effected because we are wimps for the most part, ‘cept for PK who is on a leash by, another frank comment, a poor coach who should have been fired last year. Why is it that we can’t seem to beat the basement teams (this year we can’t beat either)? Why is it that we can’t score goals? Why is it that our defense looks disorganized and listless? Are these guys as a team poor players? NO! It is the coaching staff trying to pigeonhole them into this kokamaymey “System” of protecting leads (always lose when you do that). Remember Lafleur, Andre Savard, Guy Carboneau(a great 2-way defenceman), these guys made it happen. We make nothing happen. Two years ago, we learned to box out forwards and let them shoot at Price, we’re doing the same thing now, but we’re the shooters. Weak shots. Not crashing their net. No forecheck. It’s sad. Wimps while the best teams are hard-charging, in their face. We need more PK attitude to get the other teams off kilter, tired and frustrated. With the current crew, we don’t have to throw the year, it will unravel as it has and we will get the raft pick we so need, but PG will trade our young core as he has already lost four this year and last year. He won’t hesitate to trade away a Kristo (small) or anyone else to bring some desperate move to town to pull the wool over Molson’s eyes. So sad. I for one hope that they keep losing so that changes are made. I’m fed up with the decades of mediocrity, knowing that the Habs don’t ideally have the talent, depth or physical size to keep playing 60 minutes a game, protecting our key players, which we have what one or two?

    Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

  4. piper says:

    How about this one when Crosby and Malkin come back. Cammalleri + anyone but PK or Price or 1st rounder for Jordan Stall.

  5. Greg says:

    How about this one: Andrew Conboy and a 2nd round pick for Chris Neil? Ottawa gets some toughness in return and a much coveted draft pick for a rebuilding team. Habs get gritty toughness that can put up occasional points and will protect Price and Gio.

    • Anti JM says:

      No deal! First, I LOVE conboy..I actually think he’s overlooked on here by many…(hes no saviour, but he can certainly fill a role)…Neil is someone I like, but he’s getting long in the tooth and conboy has yrs ahead…plus, I want to see the habs bottom out, draft more and higher and build for the next 5-10…

      • Batalla says:

        I agree that this should be no deal. But I disagree about having players to fill roles. Unless that role is “putter”. We still don’t truly have someone that fills the net. We have guys that can get you about 50 pts per year, but that’s not good enough!

      • slapshot777 says:

        So having the Habs bottom out as you say it for this year to get a high draft pick will not make us any better for years to come. I don’t see how tanking for one year will some how make use that much more improved.

        To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  6. Anti JM says:

    Tanking it doesn’t have anything to do with a bandwagon mentality. I want a winner, i dont want mediocre…each of the last 2 yrs were mirages, so to speak…our goalies masked other more systemic issues….

    I have long suggested we need to finish worse for a few years in order to get better…and now we have the chance…the upcoming draft looks to be quite deep in the first 7…lets dump gomez to the ahl and have some balls(or tade him if you can), lose AK, Lose Gill(much as I like him), lose gionta(much as I like him) , and get a pile of drafts back…we dont want bodies..we want to tank…

    build around price, PK, maxpac, eller, desharnais, emelin, diaz, bealieau, kristo, conboy, schults, avtsin, bourneval, leblanc, bennet, tinordi and mix them with a superstar like yakupov, Murray, forsberg or grigorenko and were on th way…we need MORE picks and HIGHER picks…Once we land a superstar, we need some big tough banger guys…weve got to find a good one of these in the late 1st – mid 2nd round… but if we stockpile some picks, and tank the season or 2, and we can remake this team in a hurry with not too much change…

    We have a very good young core.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      What you’re saying is not crazy, but I disagree with the whole concept of tanking. The reason is simple. Our team right now is good enough to make the playoffs (yes our D is in tough due to injury, but there is time for it to get better). Once a team makes the playoffs, literally anything can happen…and who knows what changes can be made to make the team a bit better.
      If I honestly thought the team had ZERO chance top make the playoffs, I might agree. Actually, no matter what, the team cannot tank. It sounds like you suggest losing on purpose or benching anyone who is any good and putting an AHL line-up out there…??
      How do you tank otherwise? Just play and if they deserve last place and the first pick, they’ll get it (or a shot at it).
      There’s no way I’m hoping for thast though.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • bleedhabs81 says:

      Price is looking for a new contract…. why would he re-sign here if we are tanking?

      I bet he could go somewhere else and compete for a cup immediately.

      Your plan is dumb.

  7. duffy says:

    Jagr pissed the Canadiens didnt sign him for 3 mill. Hat trick tonight.

  8. HABSIN09 says:

    On another note. Instead of getting rid of Martin, or PG, or Gomez, or whoever, how about getting rid of the Canadiens’ medical and training staff? We are always injured. Players don’t want to sign in Montreal because they will have 1 knee in no time.

  9. The Dude says:

    You know it amazes me how many Fans think winning the Stanley Cup is Not important and the Fan that complains too the fact the Team is way off track is not “A Proper Fan”. Never mind the fact that The Rockets turning in his grave, Einstein’s doing backflips!lol

  10. HabFanSince72 says:

    What is expected of the Habs fan in a situation like this?

    Neither optimism nor pessimism. What’s needed is a sense of humour.

    So whatever your take on the team, half-full or half-empty, keep it amusing, and we’ll be fine.

  11. HABSIN09 says:

    I don’t understand why everyone wants Martin gone. If there were several good coaches looking for a job, I would entertain the idea, but the fact is, there aren’t many unemployed good coaches. That’s why they’re unemployed. Patrick Roy and Kirk Muller are both young, new coaches, which is not the type of coach that this team needs anyway. I am not a huge Martin/PG fan, however the players are getting 40 shots a game, and that doesn’t sound like a stifling defensive system. The players need to shoot from better spots, and try aiming somewhere other than the crests of opposing goalies’ jerseys. Also, reading down a bit as how Gomez’ salary would be hard to move, after this year, his cap hit remains at 7.5 million, but his salary is less. Something like 5.5 and 4.5 the next year. This is an attractive player for a team trying to hit the cap floor, as the owner will obviously pay a couple or few million less, for a larger cap hit.

    • J_P says:

      Why is a young, new coach not what this team needs? Clearly the old, experienced, dictator style of coach isnt working.

      This is a young team, I think a young coach is exactly what they need. Carbo just didn’t work out because he was a player who always gave it 110% no matter what, and rather than motivate his players to give 110%, he just flat out expected it. Carbo also never coached at ANY LEVEL prior to starting with the habs.

      I think Kirk Muller is the coach for this team. Hes the one constant behind the bench that we had the last two seasons, that is no longer with us.

      • HABSIN09 says:

        Carbo was an Assistant coach with Dallas and Montreal before becoming a head coach, and to use him as an example is against your argument. To clarify, if this team as we know it is to compete for a top third spot in the league, year in and year out then we need an experienced coach. If the plan is to stick with the young players and ship out the vets, a la Ottawa Senators, then bring on your Kirk Muller.

  12. Lafrich says:

    To all you tank the season talkers:

    Do you guys think it inconceivable that the Habs go 12-8 in their next 20?

    If they do, they will be sitting on 13-13-2 STILL WITH 54 GAMES LEFT!!!!

    You want to slag management for making bad trades, and not finding the correct personnel at the right price? fine.
    You want to say JM is a crap coach, and the Habs would be better off with an innovative thinker? Fine.

    You want to tank the season?!?!?!?!?! NOT FINE AT ALL!

    • Timo says:

      Yes, I think it’s inconceivable.

      But I am also against tanking because no matter who we draft he will be ruined by JM and his The System. Management and coaching staff need to change first before any further moves/decisions are executed.

      • Lafrich says:

        I am not the biggest fan of JM or his system, and would prefer he be shown the door, but I actually like our team – well, our forwards anyway. Our D right now is a bit on the depleted side, and managed poorly (Emelin sits, why?). That being said, I think Price will get way better, as will PK, no matter what the system, and I think our forwards are good enough to turn this thing around. Maybe 12-8 is a tad optimistic at this point, but certainly 22-18 is not as difficult, and that still gets us to .500 at the all star break.

      • not to mention that chances are Timmins will draft an american D man…


    • newbrunswick troy says:

      those numbers i have also thought about…you see because after december most teams begin to play around .500 hockey, so in fact the probobility of the habs making the post season with only 1 win in the first 10-12 games (10-15%) of the year…is so unlikely that we should in fact …go for the draft pick!!
      I believe J.M should stay (nobody better out there) however Molson should remove Gautier…his philosiphy has proven to be wrong (small and skilled) in matters worse he is now panicing to get bigger and all he can get fourth liners…..I.e Moen our top goal scorer on the first line!!

  13. Le Jadester says:

    Saw Jagr play a bit against the leaves the another night when we were intermission and he looked lean and good !

    When the sweepstakes were on in the summer, I was thinking pass, but after his performance on Monday I would have loved to have seen him on a line with AK46 and Plex !

    I guess Plex is all smiles when he gets to play with the Jagr-bomb ?

    Habs, OLE !

  14. habbernack says:

    Why is it when you want to reply to a post you end up somewhere other than the post you are replying to??

    ability is what you’re capable of doing.
    attitude determines how you do it

  15. LA Loyalist says:

    I am so discouraged going into the next 3 games. If we don’t win at least two of them, we have pretty much shot ourselves in the head mathematically. The division is just too tight.

    This team was not ready to play that first night against the Leafs. How can you not be pumped for opening night on National Television?

    It’s fine to post about shuffling around the 4th line, but in reality I am afraid the rot is much deeper.

    Keep Price, Plex, Max Pax and PK Subban, and maybe the guy that drives the Zamboni. Everyone else gets a sandwich and a road map.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      People think that the Gomez contract is the only one that’s tough to move.

      I don’t think there’s too many teams other than Montreal that would pay Cammalleri $6 mill for a few more years or Gionta at $5 mill.

      We’re stuck with this core until the trade deadline a couple years down the road…

      • eric says:

        We need to give the players a chance with a different coach with a different approach to the game

      • Tony McLean says:

        Not tough, impossible. And Gainey said at the time he was overpaying in order to break the free agent reluctance to come to Mtl. Look at the frenzy now and the season’s just begun (badly yes). Listen to Bert Raymond on AC and his PQ Bill 101 toting dummies elsewhere.

        If Gio and Cammer had a big centre…like Beliveau or Mario…

        I could see Mikey getting high 30’s to low 40’s if he could stay healthy, Gio 30 even with what we’ve got now. And I certainly don’t blame them for our troubles. It starts in net, then the depleted D and lack of size up front especially at centre. Wiz and Hammer are looking pretty good right now.
        Time to call a guy named Lou in NJ and ask for permission…

      • Timo says:

        All thanks to Bobo.

      • bleedhabs81 says:

        I could see someone taking cammy. On another team, with a legit 1A center, he could be money

    • habbernack says:

      LA it’s more important where you end up in the conference than the division

      ability is what you’re capable of doing.
      attitude determines how you do it

      • ffenliv says:

        I may be wrong, by LA may have been suggesting that, since we play divisional opponents more often than others, the ‘tightness’ of the division means more of our games will be toss-ups, making it difficult to string together the wins needed for a playoff spot.

      • LA Loyalist says:

        You’re right. I always get that mixed up. My point is that with loser points it is really hard to make up ground, even if you can run a few wins in a row, as NJ found out last year.

        • savethepuck says:

          New Jersey didn’t start winning until late December last year. It’s still only October.

          “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
          Carey Price

    • savethepuck says:

      The Habs were the only NHL team on the ice the first period of the first Toronto game. A couple of stupid mistakes on the pp early in the 2nd costing a shorthanded goal completely changed the momentum of that game in the Leaf’s favor. I would strongly disagree that the team was not ready to start the season.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

  16. notjusttrash says:

    The whole thing about this tanking the season is both right and wrong, depending on how you look at it.

    We’re NOT Tanking the Season: We’re only 8 games in, and losing streaks happen, still plenty of hockey left in the season to get back up in the standings etc.

    We ARE Tanking the Season: The reality is that losing streaks happen, but this means that our big losing streak card is played, already, at 8 games in.

    Basically, if this is the only major losing streak we have all season, we’re still in good shape. It’s just nerve-racking that a big losing streak like this is happening right away, that means 40 games in we can’t afford another one.

    It’s far from over, but we basically used up some of the buffer room that comes from an 82 game season and we’re not even in November. I think that’s what has people worried (even if they’re overreacting a little). That’s what has me worried.

    Winter is Coming

    • bleedhabs81 says:

      Wow! That was a very logical and well put together post… please remove it.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Problem is the schedule maker gave us a deceptively easy start to the season. We have not played the top teams (Pittsburgh once but without their best 3 players). No Caps, Flyers, Bruins, Rew Wings, Sharks, Nucks, etc …

      We should be up now because we will drop points later.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Taking the season is just a joke!
      The most you can do is maybe call up some prospects towards the end of the season, try different PP combinations, dress your backup…
      But to try and tank a season 8 games in is a joke.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Agree Hobie, no such thing as tanking in my books. If we contine to struggle, I am supportive of a different Mgmt and Coaching staff which will then continue to try to win, but no trades for short term gain. Would I like to have Yakupov, Absolutley, but you don’t ever tank. I just don’t want to see prospects and young roster players dealt for cagey veterans.

        • kempie says:

          Before we do anything too drastic, can we please just try this team with a different coaching staff who are not afraid to unleash the hounds a little bit? It’s a great opportunity to try a try on an interim basis who is a players coach like Demers, see what happens & look for a permanent replacement based on what happens without the Grim Reaper standing behind the bench.

    • Tony McLean says:

      Up to Carey now. All up to him to steal everything he can. He literally has to be a one man team the way Jaro was spring of 2010. It would ignite the team, who doesn’t play better when you know there’s a wall in the net??? He can do it but will he?
      Time to call a guy named Lou in NJ and ask for permission…

  17. Bripro says:

    I’m going to raise another issue. Penalties.
    I’ve stated on many occasions here that three of us watch the games together all the time. And we all share this view.
    Call it a conspiracy theory if you like. We might be off the mark, but we don’t think so.
    Last year, under Daddy Campbell, the Bruins got away with tons. And it got them the cup. And I don’t just mean Chara on Max, I mean penalties in general.
    Price has been getting run over since day one this year, and only one call (that I can remember) for goalie interference.
    Weber got a 2 minute for lifting someone’s stick during the Leafs’ game, and there was clearly no penalty there.
    Cole gets a too-many-men, with one foot in the box. That was borderline, but they usually let those slide.
    Subban got two minutes for holding the stick agains Florida, when his glove was never on it.
    Gorges got two minutes for roughing, with a clean two-handed push.
    My point is …is it me? Or is the word out on penalizing the Habs?

  18. vivsterjuve88 says:

    Hey guys, i’m new here, first post coming up now!:

    I just read an article on HockeyBuzz (not eklund’s, don’t worry) talking about the early struggles and concerns of Eric Staal (he’s done nothing aside from on the PP) and how he may have relied on Erik Cole too, not just the other way around. Lets say the struggles continue for another month, do we see a trade opportunity?…

    Cammalleri and Desharnais for Staal and Dwyer
    (i threw dwyer in as deadweight, maybe he’s not but i don’t know him so meh)
    Would that pry Staal out of there? Saves Carolina a little cap, gets them a star in return, or is it too cheap? Staal’s 27 this weekend.

    Cole-Stall-Gionta (no secret this line’ll light up)
    Kostitsyn-Plekanec-Pacioretty (OR put eller in Kostitsyn’s spot)
    Moen-Gomez-Eller (room for shuffling with kostitsyn)

    Suddenly we only have 1 little guy/line. Next year we trade Gomez since salary<cap hit could be attractive, or we burry him in Hamilton if nothing else. Eller takes that center spot and we just need to find a solid 3rd line winger with a little scoring touch (maybe that's a developing bournival?)

    Stall (8.2) + Dwyer (.625) + Anonymous new 3rd liner (approx 2) – Cammalleri (6) – Desharnais (.850) – Gomez (7.357) = -3.382

    That's almost 3.5mill in saved money for the subban/price fund. So does Carolina do it? Do we swap some players in the deal, throw in a 1st and/or 2nd pick, a prospect? I think the team could be a lot more interesting, and would hardly be considered small anymore

    • RJB says:

      Eric Staal would cost us at least 2 first rounders, plus Cammalleri and another great player, PK or Pleks I would imagine.

      It would make no sense for us to trade for Staal, in the long run it hurts us more than it would help us. Also I don’t think Carolina would ever trade him.

      “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
      – Bilbo Baggins

      • vivsterjuve88 says:

        yeah, wishful thinking but i def think it would still help us… what of cammalleri, desharnais, next yr’s 1st (under the assumption that this trades makes us not last in the conference), 2013 2nd, and Tinordi or Leblanc? I feel like we’d b giving more than san jose gave boston for joe thornton (apples n oranges but kinda the same no?)

      • zak says:

        Trade Cole back to Carolina. I’m sure he’d waive his NTC to be back with Staal

        Hire the best regardless of language

      • Lafrich says:

        Staal is great, but you are insane if you think he would cost that much. Cammalleri and 1 first rounder and 1 2nd rounder maybe. Or Cammalleri and another star forward maybe. But certainly not all.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Eric Staal has to have 2 bad seasons before Carolina considers getting rid of him, in my opinion. He is a franchise player.

    • vivsterjuve88 says:

      i should probably add i’m in that boat that feels the habs haven’t had a legit superstar outside the pipes in toooo long, i’m thinkin maybe staal could finally be that… or at least pretty darn close

    • bleedhabs81 says:

      Fire PG and HIRE YOU!

      Next, you can devise a trade to get Ovi and Crosby.

    • habsnyc says:


      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

    • habbernack says:

      Yeah Gomez for Staal

      ability is what you’re capable of doing.
      attitude determines how you do it

  19. TommyB says:

    Tonight is the type of game that normally, for the visiting team, has “CAUTION” stamped all over. How come I don’t get the feeling that the Flyers are looking at it that way?

  20. markusg07 says:

    HabsRule1 – I appreciate your comment and couldn’t agree more.

    I’ve been reading habsinsideout for 4 years now and this is my first comment as I believe the time has come. Bandwagon jumpers, as Habsrule1 said, please jump and don’t come back. We’re 8 games into the season, this is our slump so we deal with it. If you’re no longer a Habs fan when we’re in last place, then you were never really a fan to begin with.

    There are comments on here about tanking the season??? Just don’t bother posting anything at all, obviously you don’t know hockey. We’re playing decent hockey with a beat up roster. The bounces will start to come our way and hopefully the season will turn around.

    If the Habs go 20 – 62 this season, I’ll still watch every game as always and curse at the TV when the Bell Centre “fans” boo our boys off the ice.

    The season has barely begun, we’re two points behind the Stanley Cup Champs! Go Habs Go!

    • Ron in Ottawa says:

      What a lot of baloney. So if i get this right: if you criticize the habs or have the crazy notion that they simply are not good enough- then you are either a band wagon jumper or a traitor to the bleu, blanc rouge. Nonsense! Many of us are concerned that this team has been mediocre for many seasons. Currently with PG and JM in charge, this team cannot make the kinds of dynamic changes that other successful teams dare, nor do they get good bench management. Until the Molsons wake up, you guys who go to ever game are part of the problem.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      I don’t agree that we are playing decent hockey. Yes there have been bad bounces here and there, but we are playing poorly.

      Last two games our worst line has been Plex-Gio-Cammy.

      The PP is an utter shambles.

      Our two worst D are Gill and Gorges.

      Erik Cole has 2 points and is -4.

      etc …

      • bleedhabs81 says:

        I agree with your “playing poorly” if you amend it to say in 50% of the games.

        They have played some really good games and just had no luck… i.e Sabers, Panthers.

        That being said, playing poorly 50% of the time is not a recipe for success.

      • Tony McLean says:

        Cole is getting under 11 minutes a game.
        Time to call a guy named Lou in NJ and ask for permission…

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Thanks for posting Markusg! We need more positivity on the site.

      I just wanted to kind of reiterate your point about watching no matter what. When people ask me how I feel about the Habs early season woes, I tell them I’m dissapointed but I’m still a fan-no matter what. If the Habs lost every single game this year, I would still have goose bumps when I watch the Home Opener next year.
      Of course I want them to win, but I want to cheer for them even more. When I watch the Habs, I feel like a kid again. I’m almost 40 and nothing makes me feel quite the way watching the Habs does. Again, I’d sorta like to see a different coach…one that shows more passion, one that communicates more….but whether or not that happens, I will cheer for the boys on the ice and hope my voice will get them going a tiny bit more.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • LA Loyalist says:

      You may want to clean your rose colored glasses.

      1. We haven’t won a significant game since Game 2 of the Boston Series last April (choke, choke, choke).
      2. Yes we have injuries. So do Pittsburgh. I don’t see them working overtime on excuses.
      3. By coughing up a fur ball in our first 10 games we are pretty much f*cked. Look at New Jersey last year, ran the freaking table after Lemaire took over with a better team than ours, and they still couldn’t make the playoffs.

      Do we have some good players? Yes. Is there some hope for the future? Yes. But Gomez and Jacques Martin and possibly PG need to go. A culture of competing and leaving it all on the freaking ice needs to be re-established.

      Sorry to pee on your parade. Luckily it freezes before it hits the street.

      • Habsrule1 says:

        People like you and HH are what’s wrong with this site. It’s really starting to piss me off that just because people are optimistic about the Habs or see things differently (positive), we are “wearing rose-coloured glasses”. Did you ever stop to think that maybe you’re just a negative person?
        The fact is the Habs outshot at least 3 of the teams they lost to. They lost 2 games in OT.
        They outplayed minimum 2 teams they lost to.
        Have they been great? No, but the season is not lost after 8 games. If they lose 3, 4, 5 more in a row, they will be in trouble for sure, but if they can manage to win 6 of their next 10, they will be on the right track. Why can’t we hope they do that and even believe it’s possible without being slagged by people who believe the opposite?
        This team is not that different from the one that brought them to game 7 against the champs last year. The D is depleted but they will get better.
        I guess saying over and over that they suck makes some fans feel better if they do have a tough time.

        I will continue to be optimistic, despite the disrespect shown to fans who prefer to do just that.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

        • shiram says:

          Good for you, and I would say we need people of the optimist kind to keep on posting.
          I’m not satisfied with the team now and it’s results, but I’ll keep watching, and I want them to win.

          Moen for powerforward 2011/12!!

          • bleedhabs81 says:

            I am with you and your gravy covered avatar…. mmmm Poutine…. wait, what was my point?

        • LA Loyalist says:

          Outshooting someone by firing lame peripheral shots into the goalie’s logo is not an accomplishment.

          Blowing almost every lead we’ve had is not an accomplishment.

          Being negative would be saying it can’t be fixed.

          It can be fixed, but it takes stones and a firm grasp of reality to do so.

          I’m old enough to remember Habs teams that even if they didn’t win the cup every year at least showed up and played with courage and pride.

          Sitting here saying “Go Habs Go” mindless cheering is irresponsible.

          Demanding a better team from management is our moral duty. Otherwise we’re just like the Leaf fans who happily sell out every game and the dopey Teachers Pension Fund that owns them. No one gives a crap.

          And oh yeah, they’ve already beaten us twice this year.

          Have we no pride?

        • The Dude says:

          And it’s people like you who have been calling other Hab fans trolls so deal with the nightmare of ONE OF THE WORST CANADIENS TEAMS OF ALL TIMES….we are.

        • Tony McLean says:

          You think the season is salvageable if they have a 12 game losing streak at the start? LOL!

          19 years and counting. They will not win this year.

          It is NOT about making the playoffs. It is about winning the Stanley Cup.
          Time to call a guy named Lou in NJ and ask for permission…

    • habsnyc says:

      Your reading comprehension is poor. People are fans of the team. They are not fans of the coach. There are almost zero posts here critical of the players. The criticism is of management not having enough NHL level assets and coaching those assets poorly. No one is blaming the players. Everyone here wants the team to succeed and thinks they need better preparation and more skilled personnel in order to succeed.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

      • Tony McLean says:

        Blue used to be for Quebec as in the Quebec flag. Now as one wag wrote “There are two countries the Canadiens never draft from: Sweden and Quebec.”
        Time to call a guy named Lou in NJ and ask for permission…

  21. savethepuck says:

    In response to all the posts regarding Georges Laraque’s interview that have clogged up this thread for the last hour or 2:

    WGAF what Georges Laraque says or thinks!

    “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
    Carey Price

  22. Anti JM says:

    I agree wholeheartedly with others who say we ought to tank the season…having said that, there’s no guarantee we secure the first overall pick…

    yakupov is dymanic and would be special on this team in a few yrs time…who else besides yakupov is supposed to be “can’t miss” in this yrs draft?

    • bleedhabs81 says:

      With your outlook, we should have started the season in Tank Mode.

      For crap sakes, the season is not lost. Obviously, the losing streak does not help anything, but maybe they turn it around and they also don’t succomb to a large number of 4+ game losing streaks later in the year (like last year).

      Rattle off 4 straight wins, lose, then 3 straight wins and your back in the middle of the pack.

      Call me in December and then we can discuss Tanking.

  23. Habsrule1 says:

    Ok guys….this is when your Habs need you most…when times are tough. Bandwagon jumpers, be my guest and jump. the rest of us cheer for our team through thick and thin (not sure if thick or thin is the bad one, but I digress).
    The Habs have the team to win. So far they have not gotten the bounces and could easily have at least 3 wins (2 OT losses).
    The luck changes tonight thanks to ALOT of Hard Work!

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  24. Chuck says:

    Let me get this straight… does this mean that Carey thinks that a Habs win is far more important than raising awareness for breast cancer?

    Just giving the haters a bit more ammo… 🙂

  25. habsfan0 says:

    So,if Price wins tonight,it will be his 11th career victory? Me thinks Kevin Mio has the same problem as Jacques Martin with his math.

  26. HabinBurlington says:

    Here is link, go to Team 990 podcasts to hear interview, very long, lots of commercials.

  27. BadHabit says:

    Lines at practice:


    Gionta – Plekanec – Moen

    Cole – Desharnais – Cammalleri

    Palushaj – Eller – Kostitsyn

    Blunden – Nokalainen – Darche


    Subban – Gorges

    Diaz – Gill

    Spacek – Weber

  28. HabinBurlington says:

    Oh and for those that didn’t hear BGL, his first order of business as GM of the Habs was that he would get rid of Hal Gill.

  29. timothy13 says:

    There is too much talk and worry about the Montreal Canadiens and it all stems from the fact that the team has failed to gel from the start. It began in the exhibition series and so forth but this squad is not a group of losers. The streaks in the past have hopefully built character. Therefore I predict a W tonight. The Habs have played the fool for too long and want a W. The Flyers will not be a push over and the Habs know that and will W. It is time to just go out a stop messing around and W! W! W! W! W!

  30. HabinBurlington says:

    So when BGL did challenge Lucic, apparantly LUcic told him he I play 1st line and 20 mins a game. You are 4th liner barely plays 8 mins a game, I’m not gonna fight you.

    So my take is, well then Georges, take it as an insult and beat the sh*t out of him.

    This is the problem with BGL, i agree with him as it pertains to JM, but he continually crafts scenario’s which gave him the way out when the opportunity was there.

    • shiram says:

      Bruins side says the coach told Lucic not to fight Laraque.

      Moen for powerforward 2011/12!!

      • HabinBurlington says:

        He mentions that as well, that Lucic tells BGL coach told him he couldn’t fight, and to that BGL says you have to listen to the coaches.

        Again, if I am BGL i take those other comments as insults and I fricking destroy the ape that is Lucic.

    • avatar_58 says:

      The problem is he asked in the first place. Fights happen in the heat of the moment when you need to protect a teammate or rile things up. Going “excuse me good sir, fancy a bout?” is not how it works.

      Someone forgot to tell Big Joke Laraque that this isn’t boxing and no one really cares how well he thinks he fights.

  31. petefleet says:

    So if the Habs record was 1-5-2 with all 5 losses coming in the first 5 games, would there be a head hunt in progress? If the Habs win the next 3 games, which by the way is doable, it will just be a bad start to a good season. Ever the optomist.

    Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

    ***Habs Forever***

  32. C-Sword says:

    Can’t wait to see Jagr in action tonight, he was my favorite player growing up.

  33. HabsFan1111 says:

    Please end to the Putrid Powerplay with Plekanec at the Point (aka the PPPP….P Experiment). IT’S NOT WORKING!!!

    Other than that … go habs go! The streak ends tonight against the Philthy Flyers

    • J_P says:

      I agree. Pleks really doesnt look comfortable out there on the point. I do understand that sometimes you have to give players time to adjust, but its one of those things where I dont notice him getting better at it each and every time he goes out.

  34. BadHabit says:

    Who among the Commentariat agrees that BGL is full of sh*t? I mean, this is a guy who pocketed a ton of money for doing absolutely nothing other than (please correct me if I’m wrong), being the first Hab to be bought out of contract.

    • samTHEman says:

      Carbo and Martin didn’t want an enforcer on the team. They wouldn’t give him the liberty to take a penalty. I believe BGL, and I hope he isn’t using that as an excuse to cover up the fact that he didn’t want to fight anymore.

      It’s P.K. Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I think the guy has a pretty self inflated view of his hockey abilities (be it fighting or skating etc..). I think he chooses to tell stories which in turn put him in a good light.

      I do think some of what he said today is true, but must be taken with a grain of salt because proper context was probably not involved. It’s not like Marinaro is going to ensure BGL be fair both ways in his story telling.

      I found it very entertaining. However, having now heard his thoughts on JM’s philosophy as it relates to on ice policing and having heard Wade Belaks thoughts on JM’s same philsophy they are the same story.

      I have little doubt it is true that Georges did ask to get out there and try make his presence felt and that JM said not to worry. Interesting he says he spoke to Muller and Muller “apparantly” said I would put you out there but I am not coach.

    • dorvalhabsfan says:

      whats this about?
      Go Habs Go

  35. HabsPEI31 says:

    Instead of counting ‘up’ each game on the calendar, can we count down the games remaining until JM will be replaced as HC?

    “Only a goalie can appreciate what a goalie goes through.” – Jacques Plante

  36. zak says:

    Cut the head off the snake

    Hire the best regardless of language

    • Danno says:

      Just on that…

      Did you hear about the North Korean hockey coach who’s so successful that the Leafs Habs almost hired him?

      His name is Win Sum Soon


      “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  37. Vladdy Mondavi says:

    Interesting stat on tonight’s match-up. On average, the bigger Flyers are only 1 lb heavier then the diminutive Habs.

    Opinions are like kittens, I’m giving them away.

  38. lukas-joshua says:

    I’ll be watching tonight.
    I love the Habs, and I have since I was a kid. For Fu*k sakes I have a Patrick Roy tattoo on my leg, that I got on my trip to Montreal. Do I think this team needs some changes, well yes. But a true fan sticks with his team. GO HABS GO

  39. HabinBurlington says:

    So I heard on radio Palushaj skated on 3rd line this morning. Jacques is listening to us. We need to continue providing polite helpful advice to the man.

  40. shiram says:

    Credits for this go to user Moen in Glory on HF boards, and I feel we can always use a laugh…

    have a smile today!

    Moen for powerforward 2011/12!!

  41. habsrpast says:

    when I hear BGL say that when hab players wre being beaten up, and thrown around, and JM did nothing, with ZERO emotion, it really bothered the hab players.


  42. showey47 says:

    So does this bgl interview create another distraction that the team doesn’t need?

  43. Ozmodiar says:

    No Pronger – The Grabovski trade is finally paying dividends, i see.

  44. petefleet says:

    Somebody wanna explain the love affair with Kyle Turris. I don’t see anything from his stats that would warrant all the accolades.

    Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.

    ***Habs Forever***

    • J_P says:

      I dont even understand how hes holding out. Who does he think he is? He hasnt accomplished anything.

      He was drafted when gretzky was there coaching. Even though gretzky wasnt the GM, apparently it was gretzky who pushed to draft him 3rd overall. He was drafted out of the BCHL and played a year college before being rushed into the NHL.

      He had some good success in the AHL, and hes still young, but I dont see anything in his stat line to justify his hold out or to cement him as an elite level prospect.

    • savethepuck says:

      He’s not a current Hab and he is a recognizable name. The only 2 credentials a player needs for most on here to think we should get him.

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

  45. krob1000 says:

    How about we bring the dream team to coach this squad Mr. Molson….How about Muller with Roy and Robinson…it’s only money…your money! I know they all want to be head coaches but they could just be paid like head coaches. Robinson would be a great d mentor and keep the few positives of the system in place he would ensure that defense was played, Roy is as passionate as they get and would inject fire into anyone and Muller could maintain the special teams/strategy coaching,etc as he is the perfect player coach.
    We could even have a special tv benefit announcing the hiring of the Dream Team …
    We could still actually have Martin be involved….he could be the vice president to the chief consultant of system design – non communications division and work under Carbo and Gainey. I can see the staff meeting now….starring Charlie Chaplin in all three roles.

  46. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Eric Francis reporting the Flames are one of 6 teams who’ve made an offer on Kyle Turris…wonder who the other 5 are

  47. Danno says:

    Jacques Martin said winger Max Pacioretty was a game-time decision against the Flyers to which Max Pacioretty said Jacques Martin was a game-time decision.



    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  48. eric says:


  49. habsrpast says:

    after listening to the BGL interview, especially about what he said(positives) about Muller and Martin(negatives),
    please Mr. Molson : FIRE JACQUES MARTIN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Ghosts of the Forum says:

      I didn’t hear the interview, but I’d be awfully leery of making hockey decisions, particularly at the management level, based on BGL’s advice…

      • Mattyleg says:

        He’s been saying idiotic things about Martin since he packed his gloves into his duffel bag stuffed with Bordens.

        Ask him about Haiti. You might get some sensible thoughts there. Or about how to make a nut-roast.

        Why people keep talking to him about hockey is beyond me.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

  50. Captain aHab says:

    Well that was much ado about nothing. He doesn’t hate JM but doesn’t like his style. He thinks JM is safe for now. I think if the Habs lose the next three, JM is gone.

  51. The Dude says:

    Say what you want about BLG,but I’d bet anyone here he’d be a better Coach or G.M then the tripe that’s there now…….

  52. Captain aHab says:

    They’re really milking the Laracque interview before having him talk about JM. I wonder if they’re paying him to be on air?

    • Xsteve50 says:

      perhaps..but it is good radio

      • Captain aHab says:

        I’m sure everything he says is the truth and not said to sell his book. ;-O

        • avatar_58 says:

          His BOOK??

          Jesus christ this guy is only known because he signed with the habs and cried about it. Had they never signed him we would all be asking “george who?”

          This is the terrible side of this franchise – giving no talent big mouths a stage to perform

          • Mattyleg says:

            Um, he won a Stanley Cup with Pittsburgh.

            How you consider that the Habs gave this guy a stage to perform is beyond me. We tried to get him to be our enforcer, and he decided to retire with full pay instead.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • HabinBurlington says:

            Did not win a cup, could have but took the payday with Montreal, he so much as admitted it.

  53. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    I’m still confused at Palushaj on the fourth line. I mean, if you need a fourth-liner, call up one. Bring Schultz in or something. But if you’re calling up Palushaj, who is ostensibly a scorer, give him a chance to score!

    Especially when two of your top 6 (or 9 or whatever) are out with injury. It’s unfair to Darche as well, who takes heat for being in situations he shouldn’t be in.

    I’m one of the few who thinks it’s too early to fire Martin, but I definitely find this strategy frustrating.

    The top 9 should be a combination of:

    Cammy, Cole, Pleks, Gionta, AK, Eller, DD, Palushaj and Moen

    Actually, inadvertantly, I wrote those as the lines I’d ice, haha.

  54. P St. Pierre says:

    I know there are lots of coaches on here already, but I’d really like to Emelin in the lineup vs Philly and the Bruins this week. These are teams with some big, skilled forwards and in my humble opinion, the kid has been quietly effective to start the season. He’s a big guy whose hard to knock around. He hasn’t taken any stupid penalties, but has just been playing efficient hockey.

  55. ArmyFan says:

    Just curious….

    Is anyone deliberately NOT going to watch this game out of principle, being sick with anxiety and frustration over this brutal start?

    I told my wife and 2 young sons last night at dinner that I wasn’t going to watch any more games until either (a) they get to .500, or (b) a MAJOR positive change of some type is made on this team.

    My wife said “whatever…”, and the boys just kind of chuckled with a knowing sense that there was no way I could follow through on it.

    I’m starting to think they’re right. This team will be the death of me yet.

  56. krob1000 says:

    Why can’t we have Muller or someone else coach this team and have a Francophone assistant to help in the media circus instead of having a Francophone “coach” and a coach helping out with the actual coaching???

  57. Chrisadiens says:

    Max should just heal up. You know the flyers and bruins will just try to hack his wrist off. Of course, it will be deemed a “hockey play”

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

  58. avatar_58 says:

    Ok look – I’m always confused by this websites writing style –

    “The Canadiens will be out to stop a six-game slide when they take on the Philadephia Flyers on Wednesday night at the Bell Centre.

    Montreal got some good news on Wednesday morning when, after the morning skate, head coach Jacques Martin said winger Max Pacioretty was a game-time decision against the Flyers.”

    Did the game already happen? Today is wednesday, why say “wednesday night”? Also Pacioretty *was* a game time decision? Don’t you mean “is”? I don’t think wednesday night has passed yet.

    I know, nitpicking but this happens every game night and I just find it strange.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Actually they’re right and you’re wrong.

    • Mattyleg says:

      That’s all grammatically correct.
      The article is meant to be read today but also archived. This is done so that future searches can be made, and clarity isn’t lost.

      As for ‘was’, that’s an element of reported speech. You can use either ‘was’ or ‘is’, both are correct, although as I said, if this article is to be read tomorrow, there would be confusion as to when the game is. This way, there is no confusion now or in the future, as saying ‘was’ in reported speech for a future event is correct.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

  59. The Dude says:

    No Pronger tonight ,yay.One less injury.

  60. HabinBurlington says:

    Okay after this commercial break Team 990 BGL gonna talk specifically about our dear friend Jacques Martin

  61. DEANDALLEY says:

    It this rate, most of us here will be in Depends the next time the Habs win a Cup!

    “Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing”

  62. Mattyleg says:

    (I always post at the end of a thread!!)

    **The Second Installment of ‘Lovesong of J. Alfred Martin’***
    (apologies to TS Elliot)

    The yellow Flyer that rubs its opponents upon the plexiglass,
    The yellow Bruin that rubs our muzzles on the plexiglass
    Licked its tongue into the corners of the offensive zone,
    Lingered upon the crease and stood in screens,
    Let fall upon its back the checking that falls from d-men,
    Slipped by the slot, made a sudden snap,
    And seeing that it was a soft October night,
    Curled once about the ice, on a victory lap.

    **more soon!**

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  63. savethepuck says:

    If Patches is a Game Time Decision, I guess, based on his past history, that means he’s guaranteed to be in the line-up tonight.

    “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
    Carey Price

  64. DEANDALLEY says:

    Pacioretty should give blood to every player on this team!

    After Martin is fired of course …

    “Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing”

  65. DEANDALLEY says:

    No need for Carey to ditch the pink trim equipment.

    Just grow the Stache…. Power in the Stache …

    “Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing”

  66. Propwash says:

    Interesting article on Molson and if he should intervene and right the ship.

  67. 24moreCups says:

    George Laraque is on TSN990 right now talking about his time with the team, the coaches and stuff.

  68. eric says:


  69. RGM says:

    “He will be going back to his usual gear in hopes of snapping his slump and finally winning game No. 11 for his career.”

    Might want to check those numbers again. 😉

    GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is our year!

  70. HabinBurlington says:

    Georges Laroque on Team 990. Okay if what he is saying is true, I need to take back alot of things I have thought or said about his role on the Habs.

    If half of it is true, pretty unbelievable, once interview is over, I will see if there is a podcast i can post here.

    • shiram says:

      Can you give us a gist of what he is saying?

      Moen for powerforward 2011/12!!

      • HabinBurlington says:

        THe Carboneau stuff is unbelievable, but the JM gist, is JM kept telling not to worry about what was going on on the ice, and how he wouldn’t let him get out there to settle things. Apparantly Kirk even said Georges I would put you out there, But I am not the coach.

        • shiram says:

          I can’t help but take anything BGL says with a grain of salt, as he always pops up when things are going bad with the Habs. Kind of a fame vulture hanging on to his 15 minutes of fame.

          Moen for powerforward 2011/12!!

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I hear you and have always felt the same, but he gives some pretty specific examples. Obviously he will tell everything with him in the best light, but as I said if half this is true I can see why lots of guys on this team would be tired of JM/PG.

          • shiram says:

            There’s rumours around that Darche is a rat and basically gives player accounts back to JM, and that’s why JM played him on the PP.
            Alot of stuff comes up when the Habs are not doing great, and it’s tough to sift the speculation.
            I can definately believe JM held BGL back.

            Moen for powerforward 2011/12!!

          • otter649 says:

            BLG comes up with another code – Stuff that should stay in the dressing room etc becomes public but makes for good radio and may sell a few books…….

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      Laraque’s been an opportunist ever since the Habs dropped him for lying about his health and not doing a damn thing to protect the team.

      Love to hear a Habs coach tee off on him.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Thank you. my dream is that one day Gainey will write a book explaining his perspective on WTF happened on that team and why he thought he had to blow it up.

      Very interested to hear Laraque now that he no longer has a dog in the fight (have to stop using that expression).

      • habsnyc says:

        The team sucked and he blew it up because the players got old. Why look for a conspiracy when mediocrity is a great explanation. It is not like this was a dynasty or anything. It was an average team that made no sustained progress on a non existant five year plan. Then Gainey took a shot and it didn’t move the needle.

        Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

  71. Booyacaja says:

    I predict a riot.

  72. stevieboy says:

    Go Habs go. Were with you, season starts tonight


  73. DearyLeary says:

    Patches is Wolverine. His wrist was broken in the last game, but his mutant powers healed it before they took the x-ray and it was downgraded to a strain/bruise.

    • mongoose says:

      LOL Thanks for the laugh!!

      Toronto Maple leaf fans and ignorance walk hand in hand in the land of stupidity

    • ArmyFan says:

      You do have to wonder.

      Last year when he went out on a stretcher after getting hit by a full-on slapper from the Wiz, I figured half of his ribcage had to be crushed. What’d he miss – 1 game? Or any? (I’m getting old and forget).

      Plus he DOES have some crazy, wolfish eyebrows going on….

      • MikeMcLaren says:

        He missed NO games for that – and was standing right back in front of the net the next game, too.

        Love his heart, he’s one tough mofo.

        GO HABS GO!

  74. shiram says:

    Some superstition from Price, I guess that’s where team morale is at. At least he’ll look better out there?

    Moen for powerforward 2011/12!!

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