Game 8: Kostitsyn gives Habs win over Coyotes

Coyotes’ Vernon Fiddler (38) grabs Canadiens captain Brian Gionta as Gionta tries to carry the puck past Coyotes’ Sami Lepisto during the first period Monday night. John Mahoney, The Gazette

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• At a Glance: Andrei Kostistyn scored his third goal in his last two games, this one an overtime winner as the Canadiens defeated the Phoenix Coyotes 3-2 on Monday night.
After a goalless first period, there were three goals in the second period as the Canadiens took a 2-1 lead.
Kyle Turris opened the scoring 2:49 into the second period, beating Carey Price with a shot from the slot.
But the Canadiens came back less than five minutes later when Tomas Plekanec beat Ilya Bryzgalov after Andrei Kostitsyn hit the post.
Michael Cammalleri make it 2-1 Montreal 9:23 into the period when he beat Bryzgalov to the top shelf with a wicked wrist shot during a power play.
It was only Montreal’s second power-play goal of the season.
The Coyotes tied things up with a power-play goal of their own early in the third period, with Derek Morris scoring from the point after only 1:01 of action.
Price ended the game with 27 saves, while Bryzgalov stopped 26 shots.

• Key Moments: Despite the power-play goal, the Canadiens went 1-for-5 with the man advantage, including a few two-man advantages that came up empty.

• What It Means: Montreal improves to 5-2-1 after eight games and has won four of their last five games.

• What’s Next: The Canadiens play three more games this week, starting on Wednesday when the Islanders are in town, with a rematch set for Friday in Long Island. The Panthers visit the Bell Centre on Saturday night, a game which could mark the return of defenceman Andrei Markov.

 

387 Comments

  1. joeybarrie says:

    So by ALL the math do you mean Pouliot did better than Cammalleri and Gionta because his +/- is better? Cammalleri was a MINUS 6 too. Gorges and Pleks -4. So basically AGAIN Maxime Lapierre was our best playoff performer last season because he has 55% in face offs and was only a -2. Sergei Kostitsyn was a ZERO so he outperformed Pleks and O’Byrne and Subban were our Best D players… EQUALLY

    Yes it would be awesome to have the extra 2.5 million in Cap Space if his contract was IDEAL. But its not. To be honest neither is Hamr’s. But where would we be last season without him? In the reg season he was our best D.

    We really only have 1 player performing under his contract. Its Gomez. But its still pretty good all around. You can’t simply pick his contract and erase it. You can’t simply pick a player you want, and get him. It doesn’t work that way… Look at Hossa. We would have a GREAT star right now. But we wouldnt have Gorges and a few others…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  2. krob1000 says:

    They were assets….at the time Mcdonaugh was still a blue chipper…still may be…he is a dman who also slowed his progress by playing college hockey……we should have gotten the prospects for taking on the salary at least.  HIggins? never expected this from him…I really think that trade hurt him…..he wanted to be a Hab….he just didn’t want to be  a pro in Montreal and that is unfortunate……

    I think Kovalev is the wedge that forced Koivu out of town and that to me is just heartbreaking….Koivu would fit perfectly right now and would have last year…..heck if it is a leadership thing…switch up the captaincy….but it wasn;t it was more than that…it was a PR move IMO.  Koivu has already been given a letter in Anaheim…the guy is a leader…he was just trying to lead a bunch of uninterested misifts and guys whose minds were elsewhere ….Sergei,Andrei, the goalie divide, the kovy/koivu divide, the GM and Kovy have hand in hand walks, Komi, Higgins and the party crew, an uninterested Lats, the Ryder situation (who was Koivus most productive winger his entire time here pretty well, the Carbo thing, BGl? the list oges on and on…it was a sideshow and we didn;t know it.  …..sounds like something that was pretty well unrepairable no matter who has a C on their chest in retrospect.  Koivu took the fall…..but there was obviously a lot going on in that room…and Koivu or no mortal could have fixed all of that..

  3. TomNickle says:

    Your opinion on this matter is not even close to objective.

    Koivu brought a lot, that doesn’t mean Gomez brings less.

  4. HFX-HabFan says:

    For those of you wrapping up your day at work, in honour of us playing the ‘Yotes tonight, I comprised a roster of players who made their NHL debut with the Coyotes (or Jets).  Consider:

    Carcillo-Briere-Doan

    Turris-Hanzal-Selanne

    Boedker-Draper-Sjostrom

    Winnik-Porter-Tikhonov

    Mueller

    Yandle-Ballard

    EkmanLarsson-Schlemko

    Summers-Gormley

    Khabibulin

    Montoya

    Total payroll:  $44.75mil, or roughly $14.7mil under the cap.  Not a great team by any stretch, but there are some decent young assets on the blueline.  I’m sure Dave Tippett would rather work with the current squad he has though.

  5. twocents says:

    Rob, I am not bringing up the Pleks comparisons. SmartDog did and he is not alone in that. The tradition of shitting on one player to prop up another is alive and well at HI/O and it sucks, especially when it’s not realistic with regard to actual results.

    I have to run in 10 minutes so I may not respond beyond this.

  6. LA Loyalist says:

    If you have to ask what Koivu brought to the Habs you were on another planet for the past decade.

    Gomez is to Koivu what American beer is to Canadian beer: lite

     

     

    insert tagline here.

  7. joeybarrie says:

    I mean cmon, how are your posts supposed to be taken seriously, when you say Pleks’ 40 point season didn’t get better when he had a 70 point season. I mean he almost doubled his points…

    Halpern will help Pleks do better as well. He will be less tired from all his PK duties and perform better on the PP.

    Saying Gomez isnt a leader on this team is also ridiculous. Gorges doesn’t wear a C or an A, so he isn’t a leader on this team? Same with Hamr and Spacek? You don’t think their experience brings any type of leadership?

    I think your lost on this one.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  8. Habfan29 says:

    Do I ever get anxious with 6 on the ice, he is awful……O’Byrne could do no worse, at elast he can skate and hit…

  9. TomNickle says:

    Why should we be comparing Koivu to Gomez?  Gomez wasn’t a Koivu replacement.  Koivu had to go.  Gomez just happened to be the first addition following Koivu being let go, not technically but the decision was made prior to July 1st obviously.

    If anybody was seen as a replacement for Koivu, it was Plekanec.

  10. TomNickle says:

    But you, like others see Gomez’s arrival as a choice of him over Saku, not the case.

    Saku needed to go, I don’t need to go into my adoration of Koivu, but it’s the truth.  They are completely different players.

  11. twocents says:

    Rob, I totally agree that there’s no justifying his salary, nor the deal that was cut to get him. But I am just as sick of the attempts around here to paint him as a borderline third line player or worse, as you are of the money justifications. Especially the comparisons to Pleks that make Pleks seem the far superior player.

  12. db says:

    At least PK isnt whining at the refs all game… he dishes it out and he takes it.  He’s a hockey player.. it’s refreshing to see someone care so much.  The Habs would be wise to stack up on D prospects as anyone around this guy for the next 10 years is gonna be good too. 

  13. krob1000 says:

    Pleks also had nearly 70 points the year before so we can;t credit Gomez for that either….why the Pleks attacks on this…we should be comparing Koivu to Gomez…..Pleks is still here….I don;t understand this whole thread…it is like now getting on Lapierre for the letting go of Moore because Boyd is struggling??

  14. TomNickle says:

    Was Plekanec even close to what he is now defensively prior to Gomez arriving?

    Haha, no.

  15. TomNickle says:

    It is worth noting that in Koivu’s last season with this team, it was Max Lapierre who had to step up and question the work ethic and focus of the team when they got down 3-0 to Boston in the playoffs.

    I love Saku Koivu the player and respect the man even more, but the point remains that new leadership was indeed needed.  Gomez and Koivu are different players in that Gomez brings more skill, Koivu brings more consistent effort.  Would I rather have Koivu at $3-4 million than Gomez at $8?  Yeah.  But the leadership needed to change, and we paid for it.

    I however don’t see the big loss in Higgins, Valentenko and McDonagh.

  16. LA Loyalist says:

    With all respect, you have to do ALL the math, not just some of the math.

    Last year’s playoffs : 2 goals, minus -6, dumb penalties in the offensive zone.

    Maybe on Jersey he was great. That was a long time ago in Hockey years and the trend is down. Now he couldn’t find the net with a GPS.

    Plex was improving on his own with maturity.

    Everyone says he’s a great guy in the room, good in the community, I buy all that and if he was $4 million I wouldn’t complain, but we sure could use another $3 or $4 million in cap space.

     

    “insert tagline here”

     

  17. j2w4habs25 says:

    I say we just buy out Hammer or atleast send him down to the minors – we got alot great talent in the AHL anyway.

    for ex; Mathieu Carle, Brendon Nash, Alex Henry, Fred St Dannis, and Webber am sure one the guy down there can cover Hammer and probably Jaro Sp…..

     

     

  18. krob1000 says:

    Whya re we comparing him to PLeks…should be Koivu…who also steps up ….and for cheaper, shorter term…what is this pleks thing about? If we have Koivu..then there is eventually a role for Eller as a top 6 center maybe next year or the year after….now? 4 more years min imum….guess he becomes a winger? or we have the highest paid 3rd line (and best I will conced) 3rd line center int he game? The swap of Gomez and Koivu caused problems…apparently not as insurmountable as I thought originally but problems…definitely caused and will continue to cause problems. 

  19. j2w4habs25 says:

    opps double post.

  20. joeybarrie says:

    I have to say I disagree. In his only season on our team, he had more ice time than Pleks and more points than Pleks in the Playoffs. WHERE WE SAW OUR BIGGEST SUCCESS IN 17 YEARS… How can you say that Gomez is a 2nd line center and Pleks is a 1st line center if the 2nd line plays more and gets more points????

    So basically by these measurements that I have been seeing from others we have NO first line players. Not AK, Not Cammi, Not Pleks no one…. Yet we still beat Washington and Pitts in the Playoffs.

    And again, why was it acceptable for Koivu when he was here, but not Gomez?

    Bottom line is this. Does he deserve his salary? NO, but there are alot of others in that same boat. Is having him on this team better than not having him?  If you can say no and you would rather not have him, then I say simply to you, we wouldn’t have gone ANYWHERE in the playoffs last season.

    Are there other players in the league I would rather have???? OF COURSE. The problem with that is that the teams they are currently on aren’t going to give them up… Thats why no one traded Ovechkin, Stamkos, Crosby, Sharp, St. Louis, etc, etc to us….

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  21. krob1000 says:

    If we could haver Gomez, Hamrlik and Spacek ast what their real value should be …we could have afforded Hossa ? Gomez at 5 million, Hammer at 3 and Spacek at 3 ….

    Personally I think the mistake was taking Gomez over Koivu….people go on about Koivu needing to be removed…that is where it all went sour….Koivu is as productive and versatile even as Gomez despite his age.  Koivu comes at a fraction of the salary and is nearing the end…..it would have been perfect….but unfortunately Saku Koivu is too blame for the teams culture and past failures??? That is what kill s me about he Gomez deal…the grass is greener tjhing.  The reality is Scott Gomez is a good hokcye palyer, a good team guy, a clutch guy….so too was Saku…but cheaper…..and shorter term….that is the big issue. 

    that being said management has done a decent job of restocking and still meeting cap requirements…and if we really got into trouble…..we could always bury one of our aging vet dmen if need be….Spacek…you listenting…..step it up bud.  That used to be frowned on but now it is just a reality in the cap era …..so if thee PP struggles with Markov’s return…..Spacek continues to play like he looks…..who knows maybe MAB returns and we have a couple etra million bucks? maybe Picard steps up, OB or HEnry fills in and we have money for another move? Or maybe everything just works out but this constant justification of one of the most ridiculed contracts in the game is pretty tiresom…I realize these people are trying to spread positivity but it is a futile exercise in this instance…..I accedpt Gomez, I like Gomez the player….I will NEVER be spoonfed anything that blinds me to the reality of that deal though…..it sucked. 

    Gomez will not play as poorly has he has been…he’ll bounce back, get his 60 points, play a valuable role in the playoffs……but at no point in his career , even his best year…did he do anything taht warrants this type of money in todays cap world….especially considering we also gave up assets to get him…that is just the plain truth…I have and will always agree Steve. June 30th…the moment I found about that trade….will never be forgotten…and agian Ic an;t state this enough…it is not a knock against Gomez…so everytime someone defends or attacks this move it should be focussed on managemnet….Gomez did what anyone would have…he took the money…he is not to blame….

  22. TomNickle says:

    He went from 40 points to 70 points.  Facts are facts.  He wasn’t doing as well prior to Gomez’s arrival.

  23. Bill J says:

    Ahhhh the X-Files. :)

  24. TomNickle says:

    You do know that you can make your point without giving Plekanec credit for things he doesn’t do right?

    Plekanec drives the slot, not the net.  When has he had a goal or even a shot from within 5 feet of the crease?

    I find it funny that you continue to single out Gomez but say nothing about Spacek or Hamrlik.  There’s $9.3 million in cap money tied up in two players who have not been effective players for this team.

    Would you rather have $8 million tied up in one player who doesn’t score 1 point/game or $9.3 million tied up in two players who play in such a way that it causes at least one goal/game in our net?

    Gomez is a leader in our room, he creates space for his linemates with his speed and ability to control the puck and he is responsible defensively if not elite.

    You can’t teach what Gomez brings to our team and you can’t find it just anywhere.  Oh, and one more thing on his perimeter play, he creates space in the middle of the ice for Gionta and whoever his left winger happens to be on any given night.  Much like Cammalleri creates space for Plekanec and Kostitsyn by drawing multiple defenders to his side.

    He needs to contribute more offensively no question, but understanding that the money doesn’t just pay for points is a big part of understanding how to build a team.

  25. light_n_tasty says:

    1. O’Byrne must go.  He’s 26 and has been given enough time.  He seems just a little too stupid to play hockey at an NHL level.  Picard is faster, smarter, frenchier, and more physical than O’Byrne, and has plenty of size at 6’3″.

    2. Time.

    3. Complain and pray.  Benching won’t help. He has nothing to bring to the third or fourth lines.  Nobody will take him.  Nothin’ much else you can do.

    4. Needs more ice time.

    5. Pouliot.

  26. db says:

    Im not sure Kovy would fit in the room… and Hammer isn’t on the books next year, so I don’t see how this makes us better.  Kovy for Spacecadet… maybe in a couple of months.

  27. habs365 says:

    some people don’t understand. some players are playmakers, some are goal scores some are just checkers Gomez is a playmaker, 15 goals a season pretty much will be tops for him. Halpern is the only guy left to try on the second line, i think they’ve tried everyone else. martin won’t try that he’s scared it’s gonna work and some fan suggested it. oh well all i have to say is good luck to the team.

  28. twocents says:

    … who has proven his ability to step up in the playoffs. That’s not an insignificant point, Steve. 

    Do I like his contract? No. not one bit.  But. I’ll tell you this, I’ll wait for Pleks to produce at a better rate in the playoffs than he does during the regular season before speaking in such polarized terms about the two of them.

    And remember Gomez may have exceeded 70 points only once, but he’s achieved it three other times. Pleks has done so once so far. And Gomez has never dropped a 39 point steamer either.

  29. SmartDog says:

    he’s become a leader on the team.

    Doesn’t matter what I think about Gomez.  What matters are the facts.  Gainey brought in a lot of leadership; some of that has turned out well.  Gomez wasn’t a candidate for the C, doesn’t wear an A, ergo, he’s not one of our TOP leaders.   And Pleks was doing just as well pre-Gomez, and his play shows his success in points as well as for everyone to see every game.  If Gomez started steering into traffic instead of away with it and stopped passing at the back of people’s ankles, I’d change my tune, and MORE IMPORTANT, he’d be making an impact where it counts – on the score sheet.

     

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  30. j2w4habs25 says:

    I was just listening to a local radio station and it was mention awhile ago.

  31. SLONCOLD says:

    i got 66 points per 82 games. but then again i only counted his regular season stats

    .80 points per game

     

    playoffs

    0.71points per game

     

     

  32. SLONCOLD says:

    how much would u sign gomez today for? and gionta has to step up

     

  33. samTHEman says:

    Anybody else get anxious when 6 is in the ice? Cmon Sputchik!!!

     

    Wow…In the last 6-7 minutes Eller had 3 shifts. That’s a first. Really like this move by JM as it illustrates the confidence he has in Eller. He almost set up the tying goal with a nice pivot and pass infront of the net but neither Moen or Lapierre could connect. Good effort. Not a bad line.

     

    Price is playing a good game. Making alot of underrated saves if you know what I mean.

     

    Defense is sitting back and too soft in D zone. Need to be more aggressive

  34. 24 Cups says:

    Great post, Rob.  You’ve got hand it to Gomez when it comes to making coin.  Only once in ten years has he been a 20 goal scorer.  Same goes for getting more than 70 points – just once. 

    Hey, I’ve come to terms with Gomez being here as I’ve accepted the fact that Gainey panicked when he had his back to the wall.  I’ve moved on from my initial shock and disappointment.  I honestly hope that Gomez can contribute to the team during the next few years.  But let’s cut the bs by trying to justify what Gomez truly brings to the team.  He’s a decent 2nd line centre who is a great set-up man.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Plain and simple.

  35. HardHabits says:

    SD. I know you’ve hated the Gomez’ contract since square one but my point is a valid one. Gainey brought in players to change the leadership schism and by extension vacuum that existed on the team. Gomez is a playoff performer. Plex in his great year was under Kovalev’s wing. The year after that he was awful and most people wanted to trade him for a bucket of pucks.

    Now, not only has his play improved but his demeanor as well, and he’s become a leader on the team. Who would’ve said that about Plex before? I do believe Gomez has impacted Plex in a positive way.

  36. twocents says:

    Fun with numbers! hmmppph.

    So omitting the fact that Gomez led us by a considerable margin in assists(his game) during the playoffs, nearly doubling Pleks’ assist totals, is not playing fast and lose with numbers? Or how about the fact that he got more points in the playoffs than Pleks, who apparently is a far better player. That’s now. They are different players dog, and Gomez has proven to be effective in the post season, to a far greater degree than Pleks has, that’s for sure.

    Which brings us to another of your points. Players declining after turning 27. You do realize Pleks is turning 28 this month and just signed a long term contract don’t you? Anyway that’s beside the point. The fact is, many players in their late twenties find their regular season point totals diminish somewhat. The good ones though, improve their production in the playoffs and so are well worth the money in their 28-32 age stretch, in my opinion.

  37. joeybarrie says:

    TAKE THE STAT NUMBERS OUT AND HE HAS STILL LED HIS TEAM IN ASSISTS IN THE LAST 5 YEARS AND MOSTLY IN TOTAL POINTS AS WELL. FOrget about individual numbers and how they compare to a salary. He still has THE MOST assists on any team he has played for. LAST SEASON INCLUDED…. So how is he in decline?

    He averages 73 points a season for his entire CAREER. He had 73 points last season with the Habs…. This means he is producing his EXACT average. So how is this a decline????

    Again, if he is leading his team in points and ice time, how do you call him a 2nd line center. YES compared to the Stars in this league. However, remember 57 players had more points than he did last season. There are 90 first line players in the league… Are you trying to say players line Phil Kessel, Vanek, Briere, and Cammalleri are not top line players?

    How about Saku Koivu???????  He averages under 50 points a season. He has never had a season above 75 points. Yet its ok for him to be a TOP LINE PLAYER because we paid him less…

    If you are saying based on points Gomez is not a top line player, you are saying Saku Koivu was NEVER a top line player…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  38. TB says:

    speaking of playing with numbers – with the rangers your stat of 2 goals in 7 games – he had 5 pts lead his team in scoring and accounted for almost 20% of the teams goals in the playoffs – fact of the matter is the rangers only scored 11 goals in those 7 games – so gomez was in on almost 50% of the offense – that is EXACTLY what i would expect from someone making that kind of money

    last year’s playoffs he had 14pts in 19 games – most of those 14 in the first 2 series – as we all know there were not many bright spots in the 3rd round with Philly

    so please layoff the “numbers” for awhile – he is having a slow start – which if it goes much longer might be cause for concern but right now he is not that bad he is a vet who knows what is expected of him and will get his game going pretty soon

  39. pic1983 says:

    1. O’byrne is one of those players that, unfortunately, will probably never flourish under martin.  Like Sergei Kostitsyn, Martin seems to have an axe to grind with O’byrne and just doesnt plain like him.  O’byrne needs to be shown confidence to develop, and it doesnt look like hes going to get any from JM any time soon.  If he can be a chip in a good trade, pull the trigger. 

    2. Put Gio with pleks and AK, and have cammy line up with Gomez and BP.  At this point, I dont think swapping cammy for gionta would have a negative affect on pleks line. 

    3.  I dont know.  As ive posted many times already, seems like were just stuck with him.  Benching him or demoting him is a sure way of alienating him.  I say they should try my solution from question 2, and go from there.  He’s a playmaker? so lets give him a bonafide sniper.

    4.  See my answer to question 1.  Seemingly another player who, for whatever reason, wont flourish under Martin.  I say we get him away from Martin and send him to the AHL.

    5.  Benny is being dragged down by Gomez and Gionta.  I think Benny and AK are both potential top-6 forwards if they have linemates who are legitimate top-6 forwards.  If Gio and Gomez were playing like top-6 forwards, which they aren’t, Benny would be just fine based on the way he’s been playing. 

     

  40. WarHero says:

    For those interested, here is the link to my fist live game blog for the Ottawa 67s:

    http://ottawa67shub.com/2010/10/22/ottawa-67s-vs-brampton-battalion-oct-22nd-2010-let-the-battle-begin/

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  41. Bryan says:

    It was Mike Comrie on the Pens.  The play was 100% incidental if you watch the reply.  Don’s just blowing more smoke out of his ass.

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    The Habs are making me slightly less bi-polar.

  42. joeybarrie says:

    This is very interesting, I never thought of this… Good post.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  43. SmartDog says:

    Well that’s worth $40 million right there!

    The year before Gomez came Pleks had only 1 fewer point than last year.

    Some people think that Gomez is weirdly responsible for everyone else playing well.  Maybe by comparison, but that’s about it.

     

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    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  44. joeybarrie says:

    SYSTEM. Meaning you can make it work. We act as if he does nothing and want to put him on the 3rd or 4th line. This makes no sense. His whole line in struggling. Gionta too, yet there is no talk of sitting the Captain or putting him on the 4th line…

    If you want to complain about the Cap, you need to complain about the whole thing…

    Gionta is under performing worse than Gomez.

    Boyd, Moen, Eller, Pyatt, Darche, are all under performing. So we put them ALL on the 4th line????

    So our top 2 lines based on performance is AK, Pleks, Cammi    Then   Halpern, Pouliot, Gomez…

    Want to do it by Salary??????  OK Lapierre, Halpern and Pouliot for our TOP LINE…. With Pk Subban and Picard on defence.  Eller and Josh Gorges go to the AHL… Gionta sits in the press box….

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  45. Mattee. says:

    That was perfect. Pure Gold. Once again, nicely done JD.

  46. pic1983 says:

    excellent post as always.

  47. HardHabits says:

    I’ll add this untangible. Plekanec’ play improved ten-fold with the addition of Gomez. I for one believe that Gomez’ play and presence motivated and taught Plex how to be a more complete competitor.

  48. SmartDog says:

    The guy doesnt even look engaged when he plays!

    Unless you mean engaged to the wall.

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  49. SmartDog says:

    I love it when people have fun with numbers, especially OLD numbers.

    To make Gomez’s stats look good you have to drag numbers from several years ago into it.   The fact is that he’s in decline.  So let’s look at NOW. The last two years he was NOT a ppg player in the playoffs and surely his 2 goals in 7 games and -4 for the Rangers and 2 goals in 14 games and -6 for the Habs are not evidence of offensive dominance.

    Unless someone is a bona-fide superstar, you have to be cautious signing
    anyone into a long term costly contract once they’re past about 27. 
    Many hockey players start to decline then and Gomez’s numbers show
    that. 

    Three of the LAST FOUR season he has scored 60 points or less.  Not very good for a first line center.  Certainly not for the high level player you are suggesting he is.

    I don’t know what he LOOKED LIKE with the Devils but if you watch him play TODAY you see a lot of peripheral play, and as many terrible passes as you see brilliant ones.  And that’s what seperates him from Pleks to me. Pleks doesn’t make many really bad passes.  Gomez does.  Pleks drives to the net.  Gomez sticks to the wall.   Maybe if Gomez would play differnetly he could regain his OLD FORM and OLD POINTS.  But he’s not.  Today – NOW – he’s just not that good and his numbers are what you’d expect from an “okay” 2nd line center.  As others have said you can’t pbe paying your 2nd line center what he’s making and expect it not to hurt the whole team.

    SD

     

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  50. pic1983 says:

    If you think he’s been instrumental in helping this team succeed, I dont think we’re watching the same team.

    For $8 million, he’s got to bring more.  The guy doesnt even look engaged when he plays!

     

    A lot of things you mentioned are from the past, and the main reason he got that FAT deal.  However, ever since he signed that deal, he’s been a massive disappointment.

    Pleks makes $5 million, and honestly, I would have an easier time giving pleks the $7.3 million average and gomez the $5 million than vice versa.

     

    If Gomez wants people off his back, all he has to do is go out and produce.  That’s all he has to do. 

  51. avatar_58 says:

    I WANT TO BELIEVE

    *ufo*

  52. Bryan says:

    Martin said that Markov should be back this weekend.

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    The Habs are making me slightly less bi-polar.

  53. Don Carnage says:

    Next I eat the banana !!    Too funny

  54. SLONCOLD says:

    his salary is important becuase we live in a cap system:-)

  55. K-hab25 says:

    Good Post Joey!! I agree Gomez isn’t nearly as bad as people claim.

  56. SLONCOLD says:

    can’t be any worse than crosby over his first few years lol

  57. Jbird says:

    1) Wait – what else can you do? Trade him for hckey tape? Someone will go down and he will get a shot at some point this year.

    2) A new winger would help.  You could split him up from gomez but who do you put him with?  No one is splitting up Pleks line.

    3) See above answer.

    4) He might need to get more than 8 minutes to show his worth. But after the team win vs Ottawa that is not happening.  I loved it when he ran over that senator the other night.

    5) We have 5. Gio and Gomer are solid 2nd line players.  Not sure who the 6th is.  It could just be benny – it is not Darche, or Moen.

     

     

  58. Ian Cobb says:

    Fan Summit Updates

    I just received two more season game tickets from Habschick (Vicky) for the Gainey Foundation Summit raffle.!

    We will be selling raffle tickets at Hurleys Pub Friday night and the Baton Rouge 2:15 Saturday afternoon.

    Thanks again for your support Vicky.

    Everyone is welcome to all events. And try to bring something along to support this very fine Foundation.

  59. avatar_58 says:

    Regards to Subban’s “yapping” – I find it interesting Cherry is against this attitude. How can one blowhard with an attitude hate on someone for running his mouth? Last time I checked that was EXACTLY the type of player Don was in his time. You know, back in the 1840′s when he played.

    Subban yaps? So what. He’s a big boy and can take care of himself. I don’t like that Don suggested TWICE now that he was targetted for injury. Subban himself said the pens player (which was it again? I forgot) apologized more than once for the high stick. I sincerly doubt the shot on Sat was on purpose, given that would take some skill since Subban was MOVING at the time. Give me a break. I’m sure the sen appreciated Don calling him a dirty player too, since only dirty players intend to injure.

  60. 24 Cups says:

    1.  Not having a Dman who can use his size and be a force in our end is going to haunt us down the road.  There’s not a candidate in sight in terms of Montreal’s depth chart who can fill that role.

    2.  Gionta isn’t a bubble player.  Historically, he has run hot and cold.  He’s a good captain and a decent 2nd line winger.  He can’t have a new center because he came here with Gomez as a package deal.  Take that element away, and the two acquisitions start to lose credibility.

    3.  Tom said it best.

    4.  He’s a rookie for crying out loud.  I have no expectations for this guy right now.  Let’s hold off on any judgements.  He breaks in slowly by taking baby steps.

    5.  Ideally, we would have three guys fighting it out for the two open top six spots.  Due to cap restrictions, we didn’t have that liberty.  Let’s stay with some defined lines for ten games or so and give guys like Pouliot a real shot at making things happen.  I’d really like to see some long-term, set lines.

  61. pmaraw says:

    poupou is good name for him

  62. Mike Boone says:

    I really liked Nash in training camp. He has a shot at making the team next season … maybe earlier if there are injuries or trades.

  63. Mattyleg says:

    I’m not going to bother looking at that.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  64. samTHEman says:

    Nah, Spacek for Kovy.

  65. Mattyleg says:

    1. Sit him and show patience. He did some psychological work on his game this summer apparently. Let him think.

    2. Gionta needs to get away from Gomez. Pair him with Eller and Pouliot

    3. Put Gomez on the 3rd line. Why not? What’s the worst that can happen? That he disappears completely? Maybe his salary will too!

    4. I think Eller just needs something to kick-start his season/career. A strong game, a good goal, etc. He’ll be fine -he’s got talent, heart and work. That combo will go far.

    5. Top 6 = Plek/Cammi/AK/Gio/Eller/Poupou

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  66. pmaraw says:

    i would look, if i didnt think you were trolling

  67. observer says:

    Gauthier addressed Habs today in dressing room: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RKTSwAVaoU

  68. nickster13 says:

    1. sit him until he gets his chance again, then if he blows that one, look into trading for bag of pucks

    2. Gionta hasnt looked good so far, maybe hes taking too many french lessons, he needs to worry about his hockey playing cuz his butt is on the ice half the time and he is looking awfully small right now

    3. Gomez, like gionta doesnt look game shape yet (hands and brains) yet, so hopefully that changes. You cant do much with him other than hope he starts producing, cuz everything else is in place

    4. Eller is plaing with pluggers thats all, he’s just easing his way into it, he should be ok with ice time and opportunity and time

    5. 6th guy is nowhere to be seen!

  69. TomNickle says:

    1. O’Byrne was done the second Picard was signed in my opinion.  He will very likely be this year’s Matt D’Agostini.  I believe he’ll be kept as an insurance policy until the right deal is in place, then he’s gone.

    2. Gionta needs time to get acclimated with the pressure that comes with being the captain.  Looks like he’s trying too hard right now.  Gripping the stick a little tight.

    3. Gomez is what he is.  A guy who picks his spots.  He either tries to hard or not hard enough.  A consistent winger on the left side might be a good solution.  Players who make their living off of passing the puck need to know where their wingers are going to be all over the ice.  

    4. Eller needs to be settled into a line.  He’s shown that he’s dangerous offensively and responsible defensively.  He isn’t afraid of contact and often initiates it.  His drought will end, it’s only a matter of time.

    5. Pouliot is our 6th forward, or should be.  He’s proven he’s ready.

  70. joeybarrie says:

    OK, I know his contract is HIGH. But people seem to ignore how much Scott Gomez brings to a team.

    09-10 Lead team in assists. Most even strenght ice time for a center, and total ice time was 1 second behind Pleks…

    08-09 Lead team in assists and points. Most ice time per game by a forward.

    07-08 Lead team in assists and was off by 1 in points. (TO JAGR) 2nd most ice time for forwards. (JAGR #1)

    06-07 2nd in assists. (BY ONE)  Most ice time per game by a forward.

    Since the Lockout Scott Gomez has been above 50% in Face offs. He has led his team in assists. Lead his team in ice time, and among the leaders of his team in points…

    He is a HUGE playoff player and has led his team in points 3 of 5 years in the playoffs and always in the top 3. He has been almost a point a game playoff player since the lockout and has only missed out on 1 playoff in 10 years.

    I am SO SICK of hearing people saying he is barely a second line player…  Funny, PROFESSIONAL COACHES INCLUDING Claude Julien, Lou Lamoriello, Larry Robinson, John Tortorella, Tom Renney and Jacques Martin all give him first line minutes, and seem to use him as a top center. Why is it that all these PROS somehow miss the fact the Scott Gomez is not a good hockey player???? AND YET SOME OF OUR PROFESSIONAL FANS WHO THINK THEY KNOW MORE THAN THE ONES BEING PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO ACTUALLY COACH THE PLAYERS INSTEAD OF PAYING TO WATCH THE GAMES seem to know more…

    He has won the Calder Memorial Trophy, All Rookie Team, 2 All Star Games, 2 Stanley Cups, Bronze Medal, among others… He was awarded by arbitration 5 million a season when he was 26. Honestly we need to get over his contract, realize what he brings to this team and understand he is not overpaid by all that much.

    His numbers are similar to Plekanec, and more consistent. He plays more even strength time on ice than Pleks and has the experience of 2 Stanley Cups and 9 Playoff seasons. On average he makes 2.3 million more than Pleks. Gomez averages 73 points per season and Pleks averages 55. There is a 3 year difference in their ages and Gomez has played 5 more seasons and 484 more games than Pleks.

    I honestly don’t understand where people seem to think that his salary outweighs his addition to this team. In fact we have ONLY seen the opposite. His first season he lead our team in assists in both the regular season and playoffs and it is the first season we made it to the Conference Finals with MAJOR injuries…

    His line is going thru a slump now, but when he was setting up Gio left and right last season where were the Gomez is useless people???  Keeping quiet until he slumps again, and jump out and bash him left and right.

    If you ignore his salary he is one of the most important players on this team. So if that is true, why don’t we treat him with the respect he deserves as one of the most important players on this team.

    Finally, what I don’t understand is why we wanted Lacavalier here SO BAD, yet his salary is higher for roughly the same points in the last 5 years. Lacavalier has had 419 pts in the last 5 years, Gomes 384…

    Frustrates me to see people thinking he isn’t helping this team succeed just because of his salary. It is a non-issue. As long as all our players come in UNDER the Cap, then it doesn’t matter their function of that cap.

    Do you think The Pens are crying about the 5 million dollar hit Fleury has. YET THEY HAVE WON THE CUP…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  71. 24 Cups says:

    We all have heard the old adage about never underestimating any team but you have think that this is a week to pick up some slam dunk points. We are playing four games against teams that will probably not make the playoffs this year. A smart coach would make full use of his roster and might even be tempted to give Auld his first start on Friday or Saturday. Anything less than 6 out of 8 points will be considered failure.

    Speaking of failures, don’t look now but the bubble may have burst in Phoenix. Kudos to Dave Tippet but I don’t think he can pull off a repeat performance this season. Attendance is still abysmal and the ownership merry-go-round continues with Chicago based financier, Matthew Hulsizer, being the newest kid on th block. Glendale is going to eventually re-structure the team’s arena lease or see their main tenant move on to Winnipeg or Kansas City.

    The Coyotes are off to a rough start and have lost 4 of their last five games (two were in OT). Opening the season in the Czech Republic didn’t help and giving up an average of 36 shots a game (3rd highest) will eventually wear down their best player, Ilja Bryzgalov. The Habs have dominated Phoenix lately taking 11 of 14 points in their last 7 games. They also have out-scored the Coyotes 28-17. The other good news is that Phoenix’s PP (27th) is almost as bad as Montreal’s (30th). Most of Phoenix’s offense so far has been generated from the back-end.

    Shane Doan and Martin Hanzal will be out of the line-up tonight which also bodes well for Montreal. Wojtek Wolski (cost them Mueller) and Ray Whitney (+35 contract) are still scoreless while Eric Belanger is the team’s leading scorer (ouch). Derek Morris is once again playing like crap now that he has another long term contract.

    The two players to watch tonight are forward Kyle Turris (21)and defenseman Oliver Ekman-Larsson (19). Turris just had a three point game and OEL is every bit as good as Subban. Both these kids are still pretty green but they are elite prospects in every sense of the word. D-man, Keith Yandle (24), is another great looking young player who broke through with a 41 point season last year.

    (Moved from another thread)

  72. trpstr says:

    Top of the conference tonight!!

    gogogogogogo

     

    “If you want to play hockey, learn to score goals. Otherwise your hands gets so sore.” Gino Odjick

     

  73. JD_ says:

    * The Habs are 5-1-1 and have outscored Phoenix 28-17 since makin’ the Bell Centre their home. Unfortunately, that and $1.75 gets me a cup of coffee. Although the Yotes (TSNTalk™) are fiddlin’ around in the Western conference’s basement, their goal differential (GD) is only -1 despite bein’ tied at 15 with Edmonton (GD -6) and NJ (GD -15!) for the least number of goals scored. Gonna have to get to Break-His-Glove early and often.

    * Was that good times or what on Saturday night? If Sens’ GM Bryan Murray actually manages to hold on to his job this season, then I promise to concede to the rumour he is the second comin’ of Christ, for Occam’s Razor will leave me with no other option. Admittedly, I thought Jesus II would be taller and in somewhat better shape, but I’m told that God works in mysterious ways ‘n’ all that.

    * Speakin’ of collectin’ pogey, John MacLean’s soon-to-end coachin’ tenure is on the cusp of becomin’ such a negative outlier, the league average of approximately 2.58 seasons is set to be materially reined in, at least in the statistical sense. His Patch-Adams-f***-convention style is all well and good if you’re coachin’ some peewee co-ed team and want to beat the rich kids’ team from Connecticut, followin’ which Disney (NYSE:DIS) options the story, but this is the NHL fer chrissake. I have little doubt Jacques Lemaire is sittin’ at home ignorin’ the “Jeff Vanderbeek” flashin’ on his call display, instead patiently awaitin’ the FedEx® envelope stuffed with bearer bonds that is likely currently en route. John MacLean anagrammed: Lame. Can John.

    * TB looks like the Eastern conference’s new Capitals: Score a ton, get scored on a ton. Imagine what could happen if they get decent goaltendin’. Betcha Stevie Y’s wonderin’ the same thing, as we speak. (And on that topic, damn you, Tim Thomas, damn you for refindin’ yer mojo. Holy crap. Please let this be a Mopey Loafs-style flash-in-the-pan thingy.) Like it or not, for the last several years, the real issue in TB was leadership. The visceral importance of leadership cannot be overstated and is probably the least well-understood consideration when people invest their capital. Starts with an owner like Vinik and flows down from there. I could write you a book on the topic, presumin’ I haven’t already kinda.

    * Speakin’ of lame, Price’s early-season poise is just further evidence – although, at this point, the exercise is purely academic – that Jack Todd’s grasp of sports and, in particular, athletes is as superficial as it is hackneyed. Don’t hold yer breath waitin’ for the ol’ spineless one to revisit his recent, cowardly drive-by shootin’ of the young goaltender without him resortin’ to more disingenuous doublespeak than a capo di tutti capi testifyin’ before a congressional subcommittee on organized crime. Stick to the cowboy books, my choleric friend.

    * Douchebag Update: A glance through Todd’s piece this mornin’ and no mention of the NHL whatsoever. This technique is known as: Maybe if I pretend it’s not there, it’ll go away. Way to hide, dude. Quelle effin’ surprise.

  74. SmartDog says:

    5 QUESTIONS ABOUT BUBBLE PLAYERS:

    As many have said, we’re doing surprisingly well for having only 1 scoring line and one of our best players on the sidelines. (Note: as good as Markov is, I refuse to call him our “best player”. I find it disrespectful, and if you look at the play of Price and Pleks lately, arguable.

    But if Martin wants his good fortune to continue, he needs to fix some things. 

    Here are 5 of those things:

    1. O’Byrne.  What do you do?  Sit him, show him more patience, or trade him so some other team can fix him?

    2. Gionta. With 2 points in 7 games what does our new Captain need?  A new linemate?  A new center?  Something else?

    3. Gomez. The coach called him out but nothing changed and 3 points in 7 games only equals what we have from each of Benny, Subban, and Halpern, and one less than Gorges.  We need more from him.  What do you do?

    4. Eller. He’s looked okay, nothing great, and no big mistakes
    either. But he sits at -2 with no points in 7 games. He seems capable of
    more but is he just not ready?  Or can you see something else going on?

    5. Our sixth forward. How many top 6 forwards do we have on this team?  Right now it looks like the answer is somewhere between 3 and 5.  Who’s #6?  Is he in the house?

    SD

     

     

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  75. TomNickle says:

    You know what I don’t like about Darche?  It seems that once every game he’s pointing one of his teammates into their proper position in the defensive zone.  That’s not my problem though.  My issue is that everytime he does it he’s the one out of position and yet he’s behaving like a novice hockey player when he does it.

    He has value in that he’ll do the dirty work, but the downside isn’t worth the limited abilities of a career AHLer.

  76. avatar_58 says:

    Who does he speak it to? The walls? The media doesn’t talk to 4th liners. Neither does the coach for that matter, so he might as well speak cantonese given his low ice time.

  77. surprise says:

    to all you darche haters..

     

    he’s home grown talent and he speaks FRENCH

     

    that’s enough for me to have him starting.

  78. Mattyleg says:

    (yawn)

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  79. Fansincebirth says:

    So what!

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  80. RGM says:

    I don’t believe anybody actively hates Mathieu Darche, they simply prefer other players over him.

    Go Habs Go!

  81. Storm Man says:

    You must be part of (Bugs) Family tree. No one here hates him he should be playing for the Dogs.

  82. SeriousFan09 says:

    That fellow who assisted on the GWG seems to be a potential candidate.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  83. HabFanSince72 says:

    I believe Bugs was referring to Carey Price.

     

  84. SmartDog says:

    Plays the periphery, avoids traffic.  Makes passes at the wrong time to players in the wrong position.

    Nothing new.

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  85. scrowe21 says:

    They’re both playing shitty…past their prime?.. they gotta get it together

    ————-

    http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/42186790

    2 on 1 Fake pass deke

  86. CanadienBoy says:

    Both him and Gill are struggling big time.

  87. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    LOL – One of the best posts I have read in a while!

  88. Ian Cobb says:

    Kostitsyn,s new contract should pay him next year by the month. Play well and you get paid that month. He should get a bonus for each smile. That was his second in two years.!

  89. SmartDog says:

    Like his blind back-pass to Gionta on the break-away down the right side.  Yeah, great.  Except that it landed right on the defender’s stick. 

    Gomez is all “woulda, shoulda, coulda”. He has people fooled by passes that look fancy but just aren’t smart.

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  90. scrowe21 says:

    ^ Good point..lol

    ————-

    http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/42186790

    2 on 1 Fake pass deke

  91. idle says:

    Matt D’Agostini has 3 goals in 7 games so far.  Has anyone watched him play?  I assume he is playing well…

  92. 24 Cups says:

    Hey Andrew – I knew this would be coming but I just didn’t know who would be first!!! It’s still early but all the signs are there for that breakthrough year.  It’s not just the goalscoring that I’m impressed with but rather his demeanor and state of mind on the ice.  He seems to be realizing just how great the limelight can be.  I imagine it is also increasing his status with his teammates.  The return of Markov will eventually (Markov is going to need some time) increasee AK46′s PP opportunities as well.

    I rode Andrei pretty hard since I’ve been on ths site but with good reason.  Most other teams had a building block from that draft year and we had a half-miler. Our four young players all had to step up this year if we were going to once again challenge in the playoffs.  AK46 and Price are off to great starts and Pouliot and Subban still have time to hit their mark and show they are important cogs in the Hab wheel.  All the positives are there but they just need to get to the next level.

  93. TomNickle says:

    Gomez played well tonight I thought, but they need a consistent left winger so that team’s can’t isolate on Gionta.

  94. 24 Cups says:

    Sorry, Bugs, but Subban sure didn’t impress me tonight.  Way too much running around in his own end which leads to him being caught out of position.  He’s going to get burned a few times once we start playing some elite forwards.

    He needs to do more by doing less.

  95. HabFanSince72 says:

    In the summer I said that it takes at least one year to recover from a concussion. On this very website I predicted that DAgostini and AK46 would bounce back this year.

  96. Everlasting1 says:

    He’s been great so far and getting the ice-time.

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  97. punkster says:

    Or…

    Controls the play, drives the zone and looks to make his bread ‘n butter trademark setup pass. Where are his wingers?

    Fact is, if you watch closely, the opposition keys on Gionta knowing a) he’s Gomez’s fav receiver and b) the Gs have no 3rd line mate worth spit…yet. If that issue gets resolved then we’re likely to see some goals out of this line.

    Of course you can continue to beat that dead horse.

    ;)

  98. scrowe21 says:

    I watched the one game where he got 2 goals, but I wasnt really paying much attention to it…I still think Palushaj will be better then Dags….Good trade for us

    ————-

    http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/42186790

    2 on 1 Fake pass deke

  99. idle says:

    Er.. so you pick one pass out of 8 games to prove your point?  So far he has given the puck on a platter to BP at least twice, Moen once, Pyatt at least 3 times and it’s not like Gionta is filling the net either.  Do the people who are whining all the time that Gomez doesn’t score enough goals ever go and look at his career stats?  Why do you expect him to score so often when he never has before?  Because he is a Hab now??

  100. TomNickle says:

    He’s serving all of St.Louis penalites when the occasion calls for somebody to do so.

    What does that tell you?

  101. CanadienBoy says:

    Kost. goals what  was that defence man doing sticking his leg up that was intent of inj.?

  102. fbkj says:

    great game, crowd was terrific, so glad to have kostitsyn shut up upshalls dad, who was sitting right behind me

  103. punkster says:

    And that big wind up for the slapshot and the fake pass then spin the opposite direction in our zone…he’s a rookie clearly. A talented and gutsy rookie but a rookie.

  104. TomNickle says:

    Turris sure appreciated him falling down didn’t he?

  105. idle says:

    By the way, I’m not defending his play this game.  I think it was pretty lame.  But overall he has played well enough IMO.

  106. Ian Cobb says:

    One player that I had a problem with tonight was brain cramp Moen taking that stupid penalty late and at the other end of the rink. The game on the line.

    J. Martin will remember. Discipline must be in play at all times.

  107. TomNickle says:

    You didn’t accidentally spill a beer on him?

    JK.  That would be offside.

  108. fbkj says:

    he was behind me, physics man physics!

  109. Habit in the west says:

    The Wizard of Kos!!!

    May this francise return to glory!!!

  110. Ian Cobb says:

    But Eller is a natural center, wonder if it would work? He sure is a good player.

  111. TomNickle says:

    You couldn’t pretend sneeze and turn around while pretend sneezing?

    It’s an art form man, an art form!

  112. SeriousFan09 says:

    Hey, are you disagreeing with the Philidelpia Flyers philosophy that it takes more than 15 minutes to recover from a brain injury? Hogwash I say!

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  113. fbkj says:

    if the bell center seats were mistaken for recliners, maybe ;)

  114. Ian Cobb says:

    Your check is in the mail my friend!

    thanks!

  115. TomNickle says:

    I like him on the wing Ian.  And realistically, with Gomez and Plekanec in the system for another four years, will he ever get a shot at a top 6 centre role?

    I think that line could benefit from having a weapon on the left side, especially Gionta.  Teams are isolating on him too easily right now.

  116. avatar_58 says:

    ANDREI BOBBY ORR KOSTITSYN!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhDqtcEwki8

    http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/2186/orrak46.jpg

     

    This guy is quickly showing why we all say he’s more talented than he let’s on. Seriously, keep it up buddy. He forechecked like mad, skated like a bulldozer and generally played like he wants to be here. Awesome stuff

  117. krob1000 says:

    you needed a second spiller beyond the gassy gnome!

  118. Chuck says:

    Agreed. That brain cramp almost cost us a point, if not two.

     

    Centre Hice: A New Approach to NHL Scheduling.

  119. HabFanSince72 says:

    Rumour is that we are making a play for Kevin Bieksa, who is in the last year of his contract ($3.8M cap hit). Given the rough start to the season of Spacek, Hamr, and O’Byrne we need help on D.

    Unfortunately Bieksa has started the season really well and may no longer  be on the trading block.

    However, if he was available who would you give up for him (keeping in mind we need to send $ the other way, and that would have to be a forward as the Nucks have too many d-men, but that Bieksa has only one year left on his contract)?

    How about Bieksa for Moen?

  120. TomNickle says:

    Come on man, you could’ve easily violently turned with a fake sneeze and covered him in beer.

    LOL.  He surely didn’t deserve it.

    I remember attending a Bruins and Leafs game(tickets were a gift) once and made a fan beside me cry, not on purpose.

    I remarked that the Leafs needed all the calls they could get because if they didn’t make the playoffs the teachers would go on strike due to the pension plan losing out on all of the playoff revenue that wouldn’t be had from a couple home playoff games.

    Turned out she was a teacher.

  121. habstrinifan says:

    What? Gomez played well?

  122. TomNickle says:

    Is your rumour legit or is it Eklund?

     

  123. krob1000 says:

    so….does Carey sit his first game in Long Island or at home?

  124. avatar_58 says:

    Spacek struggles but I thought Hamr is getting better each night. Once Markov gets back I see no reason to panic

  125. montrealtilldeath says:

    Who will sit when Markov comes back. It should be Spacek as he has been horrible but it will be Picard as he is the odd man out. Huge mistake as  Picard is really showing a lot of confidence and is coming into his own. That is my big criticism of JM as he will stick with yesterday’s man. Too bad.

    As for AK he will have a monster year. Very tough and goes hard to the front of the net. Uses a hard wrist shot knowing that 90 per cent of goals are scored on wrist shots as opposed to the more spectacular slap shot which allows the goalie to get set.

    Price has been awesome as he has given up almost no bad goals. He makes the big save that keeps us in the game. Deadly glove.

  126. Ian Cobb says:

    Chuck, other than that, I thought is was a very good hockey game by both clubs. Best game this year for entertainment value. And of course, we come out with the 2 points which helps.!

  127. habstrinifan says:

    Keep preaching Dog… hopefully someone would listen. Gomez should be sat for a game!

  128. avatar_58 says:

    When we had 2 goalies we played them both to keep them fresh. Now that we have a #1 and only a #1 I suggest he doesn’t sit until he’s noticebly fatigued. He looks fine to me. Auld can continue to warm the bench as we need every point.

  129. Habit in the west says:

    Nope.

    May this francise return to glory!!!

  130. TomNickle says:

    Put Spacek on the left side instead of on the right side and then decided which one you like more.

  131. SeriousFan09 says:

    Watched the Minnesota-Kings SO, got a perverse level of pleasure from seeing Justin Williams get denied in the shootout. Never forgive that miserable SOB for poking Koivu’s eye in 2006, the Habs would have won that series wth their Captain.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  132. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Bugs refers to Price as The Kid. But what you said was right.

  133. Ian Cobb says:

    Johnathan, that must have been a great game to be at the Bell for. And your super seats in the reds.

  134. Everlasting1 says:

    Giving up a lot of shots is ‘the system’?? How about winning a game convincingly in regulation against the lowly teams like the ‘Yotes?

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  135. Bryan says:

    I love how positive this place is after a W :)

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  136. habitual says:

    why bother proposing a ridiculous scenario, when Montreal has less than a million dollars cap space?

  137. terrygain says:

    Je suis d’accord. We gave up on Dags too soon. Good thing AK had another year to go on his contract.    

  138. Bryan says:

    Dredger said that the Habs were in the market for a D-Man, and that Bieska was on the block.  I don’t think the two were ever officially linked, but there have been scouts from each team spotted at eachother’s games.

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  139. fbkj says:

    chick i brought was impressed, takin her to the isles on wednesday

    i only hope we win the game i donated my tickets to, spreading a home win, is fun

  140. scrowe21 says:

    It HAS to be Spacek…JM has made some weird decisions, but I just dont see how he can keep Spacek over anyone else right now.. although he did put him out first shift of OT..

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    http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/42186790

    2 on 1 Fake pass deke

  141. Ian Cobb says:

    Always positive on here Bryan, just in a negative way sometimes.

  142. TomNickle says:

    I saw the beginning of Boone’s game blog where he went over what scouts were in the house.

    My theory on Gauthier trades is that if you see it coming, it ain’t gonna happen, if you don’t expect one, it’s coming.

  143. avatar_58 says:

    I don’t buy this because in the preseason he played on his regular side and still stunk it up. I mean have you seen our team? The D has no side. They switch in and out, back and forth, cover each other here and there – so really it shouldn’t matter where he is.

  144. punkster says:

    Yep, cause we want to look just as stupid as the Devils.

  145. Timo says:

    Solid win. Not perfect, but solid. 3 lines played well. One produced. One sucked donkey b@lls as usual. Dollar for dollar, after Laraque, Gomez must be the most overpaid point none producer in the league. JM keeps on throwing different linemates for GG line but really, it’s the GGs that are the problem. Sit one, put the other on the 4th line, switch, sit both, played the on the 4th line together… maybe this will wake them up (highly doubtful)

    Eller played the best game with the Habs as far as I am concerned. Given the state of things he might eventually be on the second line. 

    Anyway… not much to as for Timo. Good win. Vun vin.

  146. showey47 says:

    Canes go  from first round exit to stanley cup champs with one high stick. I still can’t believe how the ref who was 5 feet away didn’t even make a call. Then to make things worse next game williams highsticks markov in the face to cut him open and there was no call there either.

  147. Timo says:

    Positively negative?

  148. terrygain says:

    Picard has been very steady. I would sit 6 and 44 and play 20 with Markov. They were fabulous together against Washington.

  149. andrewberkshire says:

    I know Upshall’s family, I’m sure he was very… pleasant. The lot of them are despised in Fort McMurray.

  150. Ian Cobb says:

    We will! and thanks for the donation to the Summit raffle Johnathan.

  151. Bryan says:

    You’re going to give me a head ache with logic like that Ian.

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  152. CanadienBoy says:

    Like that one

  153. habaholic68NJ says:

    That is too logical so it will never happen.  JM will keep playing the old spaceman.

  154. TomNickle says:

    Williams did that on purpose too from what I was told.

    I was told that he bragged about it in the summer and referred to Koivu in an unflattering way.

     

  155. Bugs says:

    Looks like calling an implosive loss for my Cowboys, though heartbreaking, was again, brilliantly spot-on. Do the levels of my acumen know no bounds? Absolutely awe-inspiring if I do say so meself.

    And I DO say so meself!

    So, 10 and 4; will that be enough to win Prédictions? Please feel free to lie to me if you feel it won’t.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

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  156. Bugs says:

    Who said anything about Soobie?

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  157. montrealtilldeath says:

    I would still like to hear from the TWO REFEREES as to why they did not call a penalty on Willams. This is to me one of the great unsolved mysteries like; who shot JFK; did Mickey Mouse ever marry Minnie. There was no scrum or melee blockiing the play; just Williams, Koivu and the goalie. The stick goes up and there is blood everywhere. yet no penalty. I would like to hear the explanation from the referees mouths. Incredible

  158. Bugs says:

    Who said anything about Soobie?

    Decadently yours, I recline as

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  159. TomNickle says:

    It matters when we get out of our zone and when we’re backing up on the rush.  Other than that it isn’t a big deal.

    I believe he’s much better on the left side than Hamrlik, but Spacek has been our biggest liability so far.

    They need to get away from each other more than anything else.  Both too slow collectively to be together.

  160. showey47 says:

    Being ranked 8th in the league in fewest shots against is giving up alot of shots?

  161. Da Hema says:

    I think he meant “negatively positive.”

    ————————

    Nigel Tufnel: It really puts perspective in things, doesn’t it?

    David St. Hubbins: Oh, too much. Too much fu*king perspective.

    –This is Spinal Tap

  162. SeriousFan09 says:

    The Bobby Clobber Memorial Trophy to Williams on that Cup Win really.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  163. habaholic68NJ says:

    Eller and Pouliot are the only legitimate candidates for the GG line but JM has to let one of them play 5+ games in a row.  I prefer Eller.  Pouliot-Laps-Pyatt on the third for 5 games as well.

  164. TomNickle says:

    There’s no heart on that team outside of Keith Brooking and Demarcus Ware Bugs.

    There’s gonna be some changes in February.

  165. andrewberkshire says:

    Mr. Kerley how do you like Andrei’s play this year? He’s tied with Nathan Horton for the most goals of any player taken in 2003 thus far this year.

  166. Bugs says:

    Who cares about heart?

    I want that money!

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  167. punkster says:

    It’s frustrating to see the high paid professional help struggle, I agree with that much. However I don’t think the answer lies in benching, demoting or in any way humiliating these guys. They’re experienced pros with excellent credentials and resumes. They need as much patience as the rookies and maybe more because both are in the prime of their careers and they will produce, eventually. Penalizing either or both would be detrimental to the balance of this team. They’re pros, they’ll work it out. In the mean time it would help if we had a winger for them.

  168. montrealtilldeath says:

    One other point in Picard`s favour was the way he ran over Neil in the Ottawa game. We need this type of toughness to get some respect.

  169. Mikey_39 says:

    I feel like Kostitsyn is playing his way off the team.  He’ll either get traded because his stock is on the rise, or just not signed next year because if he continues playing like this, he’ll be due for a raise that habs management will be reluctant to give him.  And that really sucks because he’s fun to watch when he’s on his game, and makes a great line with plecky and cammy.

  170. TomNickle says:

    You sure you aren’t reclining as Bob Sugar tonight?

  171. TomNickle says:

    Being an RFA he would command a hefty return by way of trade.

  172. punkster says:

    Oh sure Berkie, kick a guy when he’s down. They’ll be enough time for 2003 draft reminiscing on Nov 6 at his expense.

  173. Everlasting1 says:

    He was referring to tonight’s game and last year’s playoffs.

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  174. twocents says:

    That’s called finding the brown-stained lining.

    If Kostitsyn continues this kinda play I suspect the team will find a way to keep him. There are several factors in his favour this year, more than just the contract situation.

  175. Bryan says:

    Holy crap, Patrick Sharp has 8 goals?  Geez, I was about to post about how close AK is to the top.

    On a more positive note though:

    http://imgur.com/FLoPC

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  176. Bugs says:

    Well, I’m not prepared to judge 48 other guys neither of us knows personally on the team on whether or not they have “heart” so I left that to you, (although I wouldn’t recommend you saying that to Miles Austin’s face), but uhh…

    Show me the money, baby!

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  177. idle says:

    The most games Carry has played in a season was 52.  Other then that he has played 41 games twice.  He can take on considerable more work this year but lets not get carried away and then find out he is out of steam by the second round of the playoffs.

  178. scrowe21 says:

    http://video.canadiens.nhl.com/videocenter/console?fr=true

    AK post game interview on there.

    “I make a lot of great play, I dont remember”

    hahaha

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    http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/42186790

    2 on 1 Fake pass deke

  179. andrewberkshire says:

    If AK keeps this pace up I’ll be razzing Steve pretty good!

  180. idle says:

    Has he had a long enough case history to make that judgement?

  181. Bugs says:

    Ouch…

    What kind of “feeling” is that, Mikey?

    Do you throw people out of your house when you don’t have enough beer to go around too?

    Sheesh…

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  182. andrewberkshire says:

    Patrick Sharp has always made me think of Plekanec, but on the wing.

    Loving Price this season, he’s been excellent.

  183. TomNickle says:

    I would say so.  Here, Anaheim and in Ottawa.

  184. idle says:

    Gomez has 3 points and is even 0

     

    Pouliot 3  -1

    Gionta 2   0

    Lapierre 2   0

    Boyd  1   -2

    Moen 1   1

    Eller 1   -1

    Darche 0   0

    Pyatt 0   -2

     

    But it’s all Gomez fault right…

  185. showey47 says:

    “The whole team is buying into the total defensive system of J.Martin”- That means present(now),not past(last season) or else he would have said “bought into the system”. You should also look at the results of all the games being played,there are more 1 goal wins either due to overtime/shootout,regualation one goal wins or two goal wins with the an empty netter then there are “convincing wins”.

  186. Chuck says:

    If you can use circumstantial evidence to convict a murder, then surely you can use it to call a high stick!

     

    Centre Hice: A New Approach to NHL Scheduling.

  187. idle says:

    Actually he’s had 6 seasons as a GM, more then I thought.

  188. Mattyleg says:

    …just like how Plekanec played his way off the team last year.

    I see what you mean.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  189. LA Loyalist says:

    Oh god I forgot it was him.

    You are damn right we would have won.

    I’m going to Kings/New Jersey game Sat night – it should be interesting.

     

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  190. Mikey_39 says:

    I know that, but I’d rather have him on the team.  

  191. LA Loyalist says:

    High class problem compared to previous years, at least we are starting to have a little depth.

     

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  192. scrowe21 says:

    The way i saw it coming into this year was AK vs Pouliot. whoever has the better year stays, they need him for the top 6. I hope they keep him

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    http://www.easports.com/media/play/video/42186790

    2 on 1 Fake pass deke

  193. Mikey_39 says:

    Plecky showed much more consistency than Andrei K.  You can bet your ass that management is wondering if Kostitsyn is playing like this because he’s finally living up to his potential or because he just wants to sign a big contract and then go back to sleep skating

  194. CERF says:

    lol..

     

    look at about 50seconds youll see Cammy laughing at Andrei getting interviewed 

  195. Timo says:

    LOL Dave. I am playing the world’s tiniest violin right now :)

    You should know by now that when it comes to overpaid hockey players patience is not one of my virtues :)

    Maybe they can figure it out from the press box? Draw some flow charts on paper airplanes, get some hot dogs to get their brains going, ask some fans sitting in Molson Ex for suggestions. Lots of positive things can be done in the press box too.

  196. Mikey_39 says:

    I hope they do.  I love seeing guys we’ve drafted succed in Montreal.  And when Kostitsyn is on his game, it seems like he’s unstoppable. But with his inconsistent and sometimes lazy play over the last couple of years, you have to wonder if management will want to take another chance. 

  197. Eliisa says:

    I was just going to post the standings on NHL.com as well. They are much too beautiful not to share. :) I could definitely get used to looking at that – especially with Toronto and Boston in 7th and 8th respectively, even if it is for a limited time.

  198. HabFanSince72 says:

    The Habs win an exciting game to put them in 1st overall in the East, and all you can do is complain.

    You really are a loser.

     

  199. Xtrahabsfan says:

    He will get traded to the Blues for a prospect,lol

  200. Propwash says:

    You is wroooong foo!

    At the end of the season, the Habs free up tons of salary. I say AK will still be affordable for the next couple of seasons.

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  201. Fansincebirth says:

    A while back, I posed a simple question asking whether or not our D was good enough this year and it was met with a resounding yes.

    Ummmmmmmmmm, not so sure…..

    Loved the win though!

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  202. habs365 says:

    Habs 1st line 3 – Coyotes 2

  203. Ian Cobb says:

    This is the first game that we have played this season, that we played the same way as we played in the play offs last year against Washington and Pittsburgh.

    The whole team is buying into the total defensive system of J.Martin. The one part of our game that has to be picked up is of course our power play.

    We are a much better group than last year, and we will be improving as we go along. This was a great hockey game by both teams. You can not ask for a better effort by two clubs. That was a hockey game!

    We will peak at the right time this year.

  204. lavie says:

    1st place of Eastern Conference for the time being, not bad!

    http://www.nhl.com/ice/standings.htm?season=20102011&type=CON

  205. Bugs says:

    Friggin K Senior, or as I heard him once callled on TSN “Ko-STEE-syn”, is sure rackin up contract brownies.

    And what’s with the Kid? Two games away from the first 10-game analysis poinit, he ain’t givin nobody anything to criticize him about. Playin bloody fantastic.

    And lo!, Eller got his first point. Quick, quick, let’s put him 1st-line centre!

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  206. SmartDog says:

    I agree it was a pretty good team game.  But we needed our playoff mojo to beat the Yotes?  Something not right about that….

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    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  207. SeriousFan09 says:

    Still missing our No. 1 defencemen.

    Look what Rob Blake’s retirement is doing to SJ, what happened to Boston last year with Chara far from Norris-calibre form? LAK are in trouble with Drew Doughty on IR with some worries of post-concussion syndrome, Duncan Keith defined the Hawks blue line last season. Teams live and die on Their No. 1 defencemen to be top teams.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  208. light_n_tasty says:

    Ya see, there’s this thing in the NHL called a “trade”.  When you trade a player for another, interestingly enough, you also trade their cap-hit!  Whoda thunk it.

  209. Ian Cobb says:

    We still have to come up with the right player that will complement the G & G line from somewhere.

  210. Habit in the west says:

    Can we agree with one thing? We’ll call him “The Wizard of Kos!!!”

    May this francise return to glory!!!

  211. idle says:

    Picard is a plus 4

  212. CanadienBoy says:

    So what’s with Gomez is he piss Giota’s the cpt. or what?

  213. SeriousFan09 says:

    They won 50 last year, Bryzgalov is better than Varlamov or Fleury and Tippett is not a half-bad coach.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  214. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    I really like your posts Ian, they’re a breath of fresh air!

    Keep ‘em coming!

  215. idle says:

    Maybe he is pissed that no one can put his passes in the net.  He deserves at least 5 assists this year that people completely tanked.

  216. TomNickle says:

    Bergeron uses his body more effectively when checking opposing players.

    What does that say for an enormous O’Byrne?

     

  217. habitual says:

    My complaint isn’t with Darche playing, he is a character guy who works hard every shift.

    My complaint is that once again O’Byrne is seeing no ice and getting no chance to develop.  This team – any team – could use a big D. OB has reach, hits and can fight.  Picard has been ok, but OB would have been the better choice when the Senators started to take liberties with us – and Picard, actually.  A better choice against Philly and the Leafs too.

    Maybe we’ll see him again when Marky is back?

  218. EastCoastJoe says:

    I mentioned the same thing earlier.  But I really think it’s Spacek that should take a seat.  The guy’s been terrible.  Hell of a pass to Alfie the other night though. 

  219. habs03 says:

    Chance to develop? He is 26 years old, he has been given chance after chance to show that he can play but keeps finding his way to the press box, Picard has outplayed him so far this year.

  220. HabFanSince72 says:

    Since you obviously haven’t seen Ryan O’Byrne play in the last three years or so I’ll help you out a bit.

    1. He isn’t “gritty”.

    2. When he fight he often loses. In any case, fighting is irrelevant in this day and age.

    3. He isn’t a rookie. He’s actually one month older than Josh Gorges and has played 130 games in the NHL.

    4. He panics in his own end.

    5. He has essentially zero offensive capability.

     

  221. samTHEman says:

    TSN is wrong.

     

    5 in 8

    x in 82

     

    (5×82)/8 = 51.25

     

    so AK is on pace for 51 goals at this rate. Personally I think he’ll end with 35 if no injuries to himself or his linemates

  222. zaq007 says:

    TSN’s fun little prediction thing says King Andrei is on pace for 46 goals…wouldn’t that be awesome if it happened…a guy can dream right

  223. samTHEman says:

    Per CBA yes, but Spacek signed a 3 year deal when he was 33, making him 36 when his contract ends. He has 1 year completed and is on the beginning of his 2nd year, so he can be buyed out.

  224. 24 Cups says:

    Spacek has a +35 contract and can not be bought out, or sent to the minors.  In fact, he can’t even retire in terms of the cap.

  225. Brocas Brain says:

    I think the real reason for OB being scratched is because the team lacks top line Francaphones so they are forced to fill the bottom of the roster especially at home with french guys even if they are still not as good in order to make the media happy. I bet Carle thought he had a real chance of making the team for that very reason until they signed Picard otherwise I bet he would have signed elsewhere during the off season.

    Is Darche a better 4th guy for the habs than White probably not but he’s from Montreal so he holds the trump card.

  226. habs03 says:

    Its really simply, Picard has outplayed O’B, reason why Darche has a roster spot and not White is becuase Darche is expect and has been for most of the season in the press box, so its really either Darche or White in the press box, much rather have White playing in the AHL, White had to beat out Pyatt for a spot. Coming from someone who hates media calling for more players that are french.

  227. Brocas Brain says:

    I really do not think it was Pyatt or White coming into camp. Pyatt was in Jaque’s good books from last season even when he was playing poorly JM would not take him out of the line up.

    O’B has not been played by Picard I think they are vey similar in quality. They both play 15mins a game and both are not minus players. O’B has played with a different d partner every game making difficult to gel where Picards has had the same partner in each game…guess we will have to talk to the d coach to get his thinking on that. Picard’s down fall in my books is he will not drop the mits for a teammate…even if Price is run over. He’ll prob just wrestle with the guy until the linesman steps in…We have seen that way too much in the last 5 years with our d….but that is a gm’s decision for carrying a small or big no aggressive guys on the back end.

  228. HabFanSince72 says:

    If I understand correctly then you would rank them in this order?

    1. Alex Henry

    2. Ryan O’Byrne

    3. Alex Picard

  229. ooder says:

    this is O’Byrnes 3rd NHL coach now.

    I’m hoping O’byrne can develop into a good palyer, i do.

    I just have not seen a lot of progression from him.

    He gets out muscled by smaller guys, and is very mistake prone.

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  230. Mattyleg says:

    I’m not really sure how moving Gomer onto the 3rd line could ‘backfire in a big way’.

    What, will he go into a slump and his goal production will drop from 0.075 to 0.061?

    Will he cease to skate around the ice with the puck at top speed until he loses it?

    Will he open up his position to someone who can do something?

    …backfire…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  231. Mattyleg says:

    It doesn’t matter how many years he has or how much money he makes. It’s about performance.

    Cam/Plek/AK are doing fine. Leave them alone.

    It’s Gomer that needs to be shaken up.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  232. Don Carnage says:

    Yes and what about sending a 100 million $ player to eat hot dogs for a whole game?

  233. pic1983 says:

    I definitely agree with you that its all about performance, but i get the feeling with gomez that he wouldnt respond to kindly to being called out in that manner.  Its a move that could backfire in a big way.  Also, we dont really have another option at center to take his spot in the top-6. 

    Unfortunately, we are stuck with him, and we just have to ride it out.  I still think Gio should be put with AK and Pleks, as I feel that pleks is talented enough to get anyone going.  Also, Cammy only has 2 goals, both in the same game, so its not like its a bad time to take him off the pleks line and put him with gomez and BP.  The chemistry right now seems to be between Pleks and AK, and I feel that Cammy isnt being used 100% to potential on that line. 

    Just my take. 

  234. TomNickle says:

    I think Pleks will lead our team in scoring but don’t kid yourself about the production of Andrei and Tomas, Cammalleri’s presence on the ice opens them up for a lot of opportunities, as long as they continue to cash in on them, we’re laughing.

    But for this reason that I’ve mentioned.  I would like to see Benny playing on the same line as Cammalleri.  I think he would benefit greatly from the space that being on Cammy’s line would provide and I agree with you partially in that Plekanec can find ways to be productive offensively.

    Plekanec AK and Gio followed up by Gomez Benny and Cammy.

    Could be a project worth looking into for JM.

  235. avatar_58 says:

    He isn’t any worse, and at least he can hit. Picard doesn’t do it for me. He played a decent game Sat but other than that he’s been mediocre at best. I cringe when he makes rookie mistakes and Subban, a REAL rookie, has to clean it up. Having those 2 paired up is a problem waiting to happen, given Subban has some brainfarts himself.

  236. ooder says:

    does anyone here really believe that o’bryne is better then picard at this point and time?

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  237. Kamal Panesar says:

    I think that O’Byrne could and should be better than Picard.  The problem is that the coach has no faith in him and Ryan’s confidence has suffered as a result.

    OB is big and gritty and the Habs are in shot supply of both of those things on the back end.  They can use him and I’d rather have him in the lineup than Picard.

    That being said, I’d probably choose Alex Henry over either of them as his meaness and willingness to fight, combined with him ability to actually play hockey would be very useful for that Habs to have.


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  238. christophor says:

    i don’t think you’re ALWAYS a douche. just sometimes. 

    him responding in a civilized way is good on him, not you. i doubt you were expecting it.

    if he wasn’t civilized, you’d probably be thinking by now that your loaded question was too provocative. in other words, something you’d regret and should have stopped yourself from saying, at least in that way.

    you’d likely do ok as a newspaper, radio, or tv sports personality, though.

     

  239. TomNickle says:

    Ask me who assisted on the GWG.

  240. Bryan says:

    Oh, oh!

    Lars Eller!

    _______________________________

    The Habs are making me slightly less bi-polar.

  241. adam76 says:

    1 point in 15 games, he is all but guaranteed a spot in the hall of fame.

     

    Was a nice play – however, Eller would develop better with another year of AHL experience.  You know I’m right on that.

  242. TomNickle says:

    Haha.  No, Eller doesn’t need AHL time Adam.

    When he gets minutes, he’s a highly productive top 6 player.

    He’s been held off of the scoresheet until tonight, but that’s a product of a lack of confidence and getting used to a new season and the speed of the game.

    Gionta only has one more point than Eller right now, should Gionta go to Hamilton.

    I wish you wouldn’t rest on statistics to make your cases because in the case of Eller it makes you look clueless Adam.

    He’s been one of our best players, and that’s been close to unanimous among journalists and HIO members.

     

  243. Everlasting1 says:

    Juicy rebounds make for the easiest assists.

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  244. TomNickle says:

    It’s actually 3 points in 15 games if you want to get technical

  245. christophor says:

    you wouldn’t answer him all week, then when you have the opportunity to show you’re not a super douche, you quickly prove you’re no better than those you call out.

    i happen to agree with most of what you say, by the way, just not the way you say it.

  246. TomNickle says:

    He decided to respond in a civilized way, so I responded back.

    If you have that big of a problem with me personally, nobody’s forcing you to read what I have to say.

  247. TomNickle says:

    Oh, and by the way.  What is it specifically that makes me a douche here?

    It’s that I asked him who assisted on the game winning goal?

    Or is it that I leave a conversation when it gets so insanely out of control.

    Ever stop to think I leave a conversation because I’m sick of it or feel like I might say something I regret?

    I guess that makes me a douche.

  248. SLONCOLD says:

    they hard scott hartnell…oh wait a minute mikey g had scotty lol wonder how he feels about the hair cut

  249. Habfan29 says:

    we need his toughness that was clearly lacking on Saturday night, even though we won the game, Carkner, Ruuttu and Neil pushed us around and other teams will be looking at the film. We need some toughness in the lineup so that we do not get pushed around, not someone like Larocque bit a few Like Moen. Ryan White???

  250. ooder says:

    why? i see no reason to play O’byrne over Picard at this point and time

    ——————

    88 is the new 23

  251. 24 Cups says:

    That would be his accountant:-)

  252. Everlasting1 says:

    I’ll give the 1st star to whoever lit a fire under AK’s a$$ this year.

     

     

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  253. HABSsince92 says:

    That would be the almighty dollar/loonie :)

     

     

    Been a Habs fan since I was in 2nd grade and sat behind Patrick Roy at the Aud.

  254. HABSsince92 says:

    That would be the almighty dollar/loonie :)

     

     

    Been a Habs fan since I was in 2nd grade and sat behind Patrick Roy at the Aud.

  255. TomNickle says:

    $$$$$

    The almighty dollar.

  256. j2w4habs25 says:

    maybe just give it to his last year of contrack. lol jk

  257. habs365 says:

    you’re not getting the point man, one line teams don’t do well over 82 games, that’s why a team has to have four lines with chemistry remember the chicago blackhawks 2009-2010, anyone whom ever played hockey know if you’re playing on the 2nd line monday night, the 4th line wednesday night, the 3rd line saturday night how are you gonna have chemistry with your line mates and by the way we’ll see how they do against, pittsburgh, tampa, philly, washington and the rest of the teams come April playing with one line, better get a second scoring line, you think this summer was long at least they made it to three rounds of the playoffs, wait til next summer when they’re gone in the first round or worst don’t make the playoffs.

  258. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Okay I can’t control myself – Bahahahahha!

  259. SmartDog says:

    Remember when some people said little tits would be better than big tits?  

    Pshaw!  Big tits ALL THE WAY!!

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  260. idle says:

    Maybe he thinks it’s an important enough issue to keep harping at until some changes are made.  This list of media who constantly harps on this is growing.  Bob McCown, Jim Kelly, Elliot Friedman, Bob McKenzie and I think one or two of the HIOers all seem to think it is worth a lot of attention.  There are others I’m sure and as long as we keep having to watch players show such incredible lack of concern for each other on the ice then the message will only get stronger.

  261. zak says:

    How long does JM expect a linemate for Gomex the waste of money and our captain. 1 shift, 1 game. Maybe if he let 1 guy  play on the line long enough some chemistry might develop.Is Darche better than Boyd.Is Spacek playing better than OB has played or does JM play favorites. Maybe it’s a francophon issue. MAB over OB in last years playoffs. Darche over Boyd. Picard over OB. It wasn’t JM who got them into the third round last year.

  262. nightmare_49 says:

     

       Is it me or is Bob McKenzie pushing to be the head shot expert in the NHL or is he vying for Campbell’s job. He never stops talking about them or maybe he’s setting up Bob’s Top Ten Head Shots for TSN.

       BTW Bob’s my fav but Professor McKenzie should get back to analyzing the other aspects of the game which he has no equal.

      

  263. SeriousFan09 says:

    I think as a guy who is probably bar none, the best analyst on TV for amateur scouting he sees a lot of these guys coming up, sees their potential and believes they can do a lot, but then sees careers threatened or hampered by serious brain injuries.

    He really, really gets talent, I imagine it bothers him when he sees that potential get blown away by some reckless headhunting. He sees these potential future stars, than sees that stardom disappear for all the wrong reasons.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  264. Top Corner says:

    Cammy with the ‘SNIPE’ !!!!!!!!  What a shot…..straight up…TOP CORNER!!!!!

    AK was brilliant…..pulling a Belarus version 2.0 of Bobby Orr’s flying leap…(ok , not as dramatic as bobby but…..)   what a GOAL.

    PRICE.  ~BIG ‘W’~ …..atta boeeyyyy.      With every team aiming glove side, he’ll have the fastest glove in the league by November….

     

    GO HABS GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  265. LA Loyalist says:

    i”m not recommending, just throwing some history in the pot.

  266. fbkj says:

    hey now, if not for those whores our founding fathers would still be diddling one another

  267. HardHabits says:

    Could you possibly be more simplistic. Just admit it. You hate the Habs.

    Let’s look at this only thing you talk about and I will prove you wrong yet again

    1) Yes it is a contract year so that does have an influence….

    however to say it is the ONLY reason is another example of your low hockey IQ

    The other reasons are:

    2) Kostitsyn’s wife and daughter are now living with him in Montreal so he has stability at home

    3) His head case brother has been traded so now he has stability at work

    4) Martin told him to get in shape, with his off-season conditioning he looks stronger and healthier, happier too

    Contract year? Yes. Influence? Probable. Only reason? Highly unlikely.

  268. LA Loyalist says:

    good post. Whatever the blend of reasons, let’s hope it continues.

  269. Bugs says:

    My Boys have lost their joie de vivre!

    No Romo mojo shows slomos with no flow.

    Decadently yours, I recline as

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com

  270. LA Loyalist says:

    Just because we wanted Price to do his job, which is what he is paid to do and claimed to be capable of, does not make any one a “Price hater”.

    Was he immature? Was he a head case? Was he insecure because Halak ate his lunch? Who the f* knows, we’re not psychiatrists. Did he play like cr*p since the all star game two years ago. Uh, yeah. By any quantitative measurement.

    Thank god he’s playing well now and may it continue. You can wear your Price jersey again with pride. 

    But nobody hated the guy, to my knowledge.

    As for Gomez? Hah! I agree with you. Do I hate Gomez? No. I just would like him to earn at least half of his $8 million ducks.

  271. pic1983 says:

    Even though the top line is clicking, I think Jm has to swap cammy and gio.  Gomez looked real pathetic out there tonight.  THat game was WAY tighter than it should have been.  Its a good thing we have one of the leagues hottest goaltenders (im looking at you price haters) and one of the leagues hottest lines, because otherwise we would have been sunk tonight. 

    I never agree with Pierre Mcguire, but I kind of like his idea of putting pleks on the point on the PP.

    Anyone catch the broadcast on TSN? I actually enjoyed it quite a bit.  Dave randorf is always solid.  Mike Johnson can use a little work, but otherwise pretty good as well.  CErtainly better than brunet and his “oyoyoy”.

    Certainly a good win by the habs, and certainly looks good for us moving forward if we can get Gio/Gomez and the PP going. 

  272. SeriousFan09 says:

    Disagree, you have a hot scoring line, you leave it be until there’s trouble. Cammy-Pleks-AK is very dynamic and threateans the opposition each time it’s out there.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  273. VancouverHab says:

    Gomez looked brilliant as always — he has only one linemate, Gionta, who, by mere bad luck (high shot total), isn’t scoring at the moment. 

    Gomez is still fast, still breaks the zone, still plays shutdown hockey, and makes very few mistakes.

    See the MathMan post under ‘About Last night’ where he points out that (a.) Cammi took a while to score last year and (b.) by doing exactly what they are doing now Gio & Gomer will start scoring in a week or two & the media & the commentating horde here will say that ‘they have changed something,’… which they won’t have done.

    Again, give them a linemate, eh?

  274. LA Loyalist says:

    Gomez was brilliant? I can’t even respond to this one.

  275. light_n_tasty says:

    Gomez looked brilliant as always….huh.

    All I saw was Gomez streakin’ up the ice, over the blue line, and turning the puck over.  Brilliant?

    And he had 0 shots.  Brilliant?  (Oh right, he’s a playmaker, not supposed to get shots).

    30% on faceoffs.  Brilliant?  I guess it was an improvement over his 28.6% last game.

    Maybe my definition of “brilliant” is different than yours?

  276. LA Loyalist says:

    How could Gomez get injured? He doesn’t do anything.

    Though didn’t Theodore get injured one year shoveling snow? 

    Maybe that. 

    We should be so lucky.

  277. Vid says:

    Baseless speculation

    If gomez gets injured expect to see a line of Pouliot-Eller-Gionta

  278. Bryan says:

    I’d like them to try that line even if Gomez is healthy.  Something needs to be done there.

    _______________________________

    The Habs are making me slightly less bi-polar.

  279. LA Loyalist says:

    Amen. Amen. Amen.

     

  280. K-hab25 says:

    Well that line was our best last year when Pouliot, “a finesse guy”, was scoring, but when he slumped it hurt the entire line. He lost his confidence and started passing, instead of shooting. I think the “size” crap, is just that, crap. They need a goal scorer, not a grinder and Filatov is a goal scorer. I would definitely take him on my team in heartbeat. The guy has unbelievable talent. Put him with a playmaker like Gomez and watch him blossom.

  281. SeriousFan09 says:

    I think the Gomez line needs a bit of muscle on it personally and muscle that has hands, hence why I’d like to Eller out there, he doesn’t mind the high traffic and has a Top-6 hockey sense. Pleks and Cammy have room to operate because Andrei Kostitsyn is playing power forward shifts out there for them. Filatov doesn’t have the bull strength of Andrei and Pouliot had the size to screen a goalie and his hands are better than he’s really shown this season and that may have just been a really hot streak for Pouliot as well. Long-term, a 5’7″ and a 5’11″ player need a guy doing the physical work but possesses good hands as well.

    I think that potential line would do well for the most part but the team would hit issues in the playoffs (when you need secondary scoring most) in getting muscled when penalties ease off and players get targeted more. 

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  282. K-hab25 says:

    I still think that the “size” argument is overrated and overstated, especially regarding the Habs. More specifically, our top 6. They can beat guys with speed and skill, size is a plus, but IMO, not necessary for success. I also would rather use Eller as a center like this, Pouliot-Eller-Lapierre/Pyatt. I love the idea of having 3 lines with scoring potential and then 1 grinder line, Moen-Halpern-Pyatt/Boyd, send Darche down.

  283. SeriousFan09 says:

    Look I love Gionta and Cammy, any guy who’s ‘undersized’ and still wants to play the NHL to prove he’s better than the 6’5″ meatheads makes my day. This is why I closely track guys like Gabriel Dumont last and this season Brendan Gallagher’s progress in the WHL this season but at the end of the day you need some guys packing some bulk and nastiness to get things done. Habs don’t have a Hartnell, Neil, Knuble or Holmstrom in the lineup, no real ****-disturber or crease-crash extraordinaire in the mix that can play with the top skaters. Eller isn’t quite that but ATM I think he’s the best option, goes to the hard areas and doesn’t mind working in traffic.

    I think the Habs need a big, over 6′, 200+ pound player who can take on the physical work that his finesse linemates aren’t as capable as doing on that Gio-Gomez line. Pleks and Cammy get to do what they do because AK’s physical power, I think Gomez and Gio need a bigger linemate to be their most effective. Habs need that 3 lines deep of offence for a solid Cup contender run, but the Top 2 lines each need a guy who will play power forward or just get dirty for his line I believe.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  284. Mattyleg says:

    Yaaaaay!!

    That was fun.

    Funny that the Antichambre boys were agreeing with me so wholeheartedly. Must’ve read my posts.

    Gomez should not be on the top 2 lines just because of his salary. Gionta is getting pissed off with his lack of production. Get Gomer onto the 3rd line, and bring up Eller and Poupou.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  285. madmat411 says:

    What A Sight To See! AK Having A Bobby Orr Moment! I’m Sure That Will Be Show For Quite A WHile! Also Good To See Ak Being Who He Is Supposed To Be!

  286. TomNickle says:

    Price just can’t win a game.

    Holy hell.

     

  287. adam76 says:

    Price is playing well – I hope he can keep it up. 

  288. AH says:

    I love big TITS!!! OOOPS, am I allowed to say that?…sorry to the females out there.

    So nice to see 60+ mins. from the boys!

    GO HABS GO!!!

  289. adam76 says:

    I, too, enjoy big tits.

  290. ths says:

    How is Lil ‘Tits doing this year ?

     

    Ooh Aah Habs on the war path

  291. Propwash says:

    1 goal and a -1 so far.

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  292. Habs Proud says:

    Wow…who is the AK46 guy, he can play!!

  293. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Great game to watch & well played by both teams. What a winner by AK 46. Finally scored one on the PP. Can’t wait for Markov to return Saturday.

    Do it again Boys on Wednesday.

  294. SeriousFan09 says:

    Montreal has a top line, now JM just needs to give Eller his shot with Gio-Gomez, he’s tried the rest of them might as well give some props to the guy who did the gruntwork for the OT goal.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  295. TomNickle says:

    And the guy who was our best forward against Toronto in the opener.

     

  296. since1988 says:

    amen to that

  297. Bryan says:

    Looks like Nikita Filatov is in the coach’s doghouse again in Columbus.  Maybe we can take someone else’s reclamation project :P

    1st + A good prospect (ie. MaxPac, Weber)?

    The kid would thrive in the right environment.  He has 40 goals written alllll over him.

    _______________________________

    The Habs are making me slightly less bi-polar.

  298. K-hab25 says:

    Sounds good to me. I’ve always felt Filatov is going to be a star.

  299. SeriousFan09 says:

    Wouldn’t say he’s my choice, doesn”t have a good size element and is no more physical than Gomez according to scouting reports, wouldn’t really say he’s what MTL is looking for in a scoring forward. He needs to be a Top-6 player but he doesn’t fill out the need on Gomez’s line (creating space, going to the net) and you can’t want to break up the top line as it is right now. Both lines need a size player who can create space and handle rough traffic, Filatov is a finesse guy.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  300. JoeC says:

    Hammerlick and Spacrap are probally the worst defensive duo in the NHL. Markov should come back with Obryne and sit both of these over the hell defeceman.  Im sick of watchign them lose the puck over and over.

  301. lavie says:

    AK’s goal by Eller which amazed me the most! Smurf G-G need Eller’s energy.

  302. TomNickle says:

    Yep, yep, yep, f’in yep.

     

  303. Bryan says:

    Yeah, I think we’d have to sweeten the deal though.

    1st + Weber + MaxPac

    Filatov + 3rd

    Thoughts?

    _______________________________

    The Habs are making me slightly less bi-polar.

  304. K-hab25 says:

    I’d be willing to do that deal. Hell I’d do it even without the third. I’m not sure Weber will ever be an NHL’er, atleast not in Montreal and Pac’s has looked more like a bottom 6 guy, than a top 6 guy. If we win our division the pick will be in the 20′s, so it’s easier to swallow giving it up. I don’t think it’ll happen though, even the BJ’s aren’t that stupid, but we can always hope.

  305. pic1983 says:

    the line between desperation and stupidity can be very thin at times

     

     

  306. SmartDog says:

    Yeeehhaaaawwww!!!!

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  307. avatar_58 says:

    Can someone PLEASE explain to me why Darche is used over Boyd? Please?

    I have NO issue with Darche. He’s a good guy. Character, hard work, etc etc etc blah blah…..but he sucks. I’m sorry. He’s not what we need. Boyd has energy, youth and will only get better. What exactly did he do wrong?

  308. pmaraw says:

    i dont think he did anything wrong. just the odd man out.  darche doesnt suck either…  but he is a winger, while boyd is a center

  309. Curtoph says:

    Scored some goals and stuff from going to the net…

  310. EastCoastJoe says:

    I think they decided to give Eller some time at centre, so Boyd was odd-man out.  Because of the whole Halak trade, management probably wants to make sure Eller is given every shot to prove his worth.  The problem is old Stoneface behind the bench.  He’s not a big fan of young players and gives them a very short leash  (see O’Byrne, Ryan).  Rhino should be in there in place of….no, not Picard – Spacek.  Geez, the guy’s been brutal.  So, until there’s a 21st century coach behind the bench, these things will continue to puzzle us.

  311. LA Loyalist says:

    re: ice girls

    No matter how I saw this it’s going to come out wrong :) 

    there used to be a very high end brothel in old Montreal (I mean in the 18th century type old), then in the 80′s there was a restaurant (very good) named after it:

     

     

    Les filles du Roi

    there’s the name for the ice girls — without taking a position either way.

     

    “insert tagline here”

     

  312. fbkj says:

    heh i was thinking that as a name the other day but kept it to myself :D

  313. pmaraw says:

    please whoever is in charge, dont name the ice girls after whores…

  314. SmartDog says:

    I like it!

    My idea wasn’t nearly as good. I was thinking they could dress up like chimps and call themselves peelers. :P

     

    ———
    Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!

  315. avatar_58 says:

    Speaking of ice girls – what ever happened to the bulldogs dancers? The game I attended and the one I watched on TV did not have them present. In fact a lot of the theatrics in bulldogs games was gone. Almost like they have no money….

  316. Mattyleg says:

    Without taking a position?

    Hmm… Les Filles du Roi were mostly prositutes or other women of low social standing who were shipped over here to make babies. Kind of a way of cleaning up the streets of France too.

    Much as I’d like to have been a farmer back in those days and receive a care-package like that, as far as Habs ice-girls go…

    I dunno…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  317. TomNickle says:

    How about women’s hockey?

    What are we saying to women who love to play hockey when we objectify them as eye candy during hockey games?

  318. j2w4habs25 says:

    HOLY SMOKES!!!

    who is this new Ak46!!! I had never reconized him until the last two games, it looks to me this dude can PLAY. I hope he keeps it up. We need more from him and lets hope the guys can start scoring 4 or more goals more oftan lol

    and Carey wowers!!!… hasnt he changed!!!

  319. samTHEman says:

    Spacek and Hamrlik looked PITIFUL out there. We’ve got Picard and O’Byrne that take up practically nothing instead of these 2 which take up 3.8 + 5.5….so sick.

  320. pic1983 says:

    Only a few more months of hammer left my man! Spacek could also be primed for a buy-out seeing as he has only one year remaining on his deal after this year.

    I hope this is just them working the off-season rust off, because they truly have looked awful out there.

  321. avatar_58 says:

    I’m almost 100% positive Boyd can switch to wing and be at least as effective as Darche “tries” to be

  322. Mattyleg says:

    (made this comment on the other feed, but this one seems to be getting the morning action, so…)

    Leclerc’s article on Gomez is very good. And very telling. 3 GOALS IN 40 GAMES.

    I’ve been pretty happy letting Gomer play under the radar, but the facts are pretty plain.

    Do we put Gio with another couple of forwards?

    I’d
    like to see Gio play with Eller and A.N. other (Lappy, maybe?) and put
    Gomez on the third line and see how he does with the grinders.

    Big money doesn’t mean automatic top-3. Big performance gets you there, and Gomer hasn’t done it.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  323. pic1983 says:

    Real gutsy move to pull on a player who still has 4 years remaining on his deal and is getting paid $8 million this year.

    I do think JM should split them up though. Get Cammy going with Gomer and BP, and Gionta with pleks and AK46.  Seems like the early season chemistry is between AK and Pleks, leaving Cammy free to be moved with gomez. 

  324. pic1983 says:

    Looks like there’s trouble in paradise: http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AhW7UjUr8NPE6EOSmBZCI6wJfwM6?slug=nc-kovalchuk102410

    What were the devils thinking?!

  325. habs365 says:

    MARTIN STILL DON’T HAVE STEADY LINES, HEY THE TEAM IS PLAYING GREAT, YOU KNOW WHY, CAUSE THEY’RE PLAYING TEAMS THAT’S NOT SO GREAT, WAIT TILL THEY START PLAYING THE GOOD TEAMS.

    WHAT HE SHOULD DO IS KEEP THE FIRST LINE INTACT, THEY’RE DOING ALRIGHT THE OTHER LINES SHOULD LOOK LIKE THIS

    2ND – HALPERN (LW)  GOMEZ (C)  GIONTA (RW)

    3RD – POULIOT (LW)  ELLER (C)  LAPIERRE (RW)

    4TH – MOEN (LW)  PYATT (C)  BOYD (RW)

    LEAVE THOSE LINES TOGETHER FOR 6 GAMES IF IT DOESN’T WORK, I DON’T KNOW WHO ELSE YOU COULD PUT TOGETHER, THIS CHANGING EVERY GAME IS NEVER GONNA WORK AND THEY’LL BE SCRAMBLING LIKE THEY WERE LAST YEAR TO GET THE EIGHT SPOT IN THE PLAYOFFS. SOME FANS ALWAYS BRING UP HOW GREAT MARTINS COACHING CAREER HAS BEEN (I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY, HOW MANY STANLEY CUPS HAS HE WON) I’VE BEEN A HABS FAN ALL MY LIFE AND I DON’T LIKE THIS SCREWING WITH THE LINES ALL THE TIME. YOU GOTTA START KEEPING LINES TOGETHER, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A PART OF TRAING CAMP, 8 GAMES IN AND MARTIN IS STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT LINES, MAYBE HE SHOULD TAKE A PAGE FROM TAMPA BAYS BOOK.

  326. Mattyleg says:

    Hey man, you know it’s not polite or respectful to write all in capitals, eh?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  327. habs03 says:

    No need for the caps, I kinda like the line up, but I would smitch Halpern and Boyd, and have Halpern at C (60% on face-offs). Not direct at you but in general, I hate when people have RH shots playing either on LEFT D, or LW, it almost never happens in the NHL, there are very very RH  LW, and almost none RH Left D-men

  328. habaddict_andy says:

    Whoa, guess who woke up in the wrong side of the bed.  Bring the good teams.  We beat Pittsburg and Tamba beat us because they scored a tying goal few seconds left in regulation.  I don’t see why we can’t play big teams.  The test will come when we play Phillies and Washington.

    But I don’t know why I’m trying to convince someone who obviously woke up in a bad mood… ;)

     

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  329. pic1983 says:

    Totally agree. He’s been absolutely brutal! He’s a vet though, I’m sure he’ll hit his stride soon. 

  330. pic1983 says:

    I tend to agree with you.  Until tonights game I felt that Cammy was a little bit more interchangeable, because it really seemed to be pleks and AK that had the chemistry.  I thought we could get away with moving Gio to that line and give gomez cammy.  The second we actually lose a game because of a lack of secondary scoring, JM has to try this.  Hopefully Gomez and Gio will sort their stuff out, and it will never come to that but its not looking to pretty.  They werent even threatening on the ice at all tonight. 

    Gomez just looks unengaged and uninterested.  He doesnt look willing to sacrifice or make the hard play to help the team.  He just leisurely floats into the offensive zone, than turns around and looks for a pass.

    As for Gionta, who in their right mind takes a slapshot on a 2 on 1? I mean seriously…For all the things he could have done, he decides to wind up and blast one right into a goalie who had all day to square up to him to make the easy save.  Its the poor decision making by Gomez and Gio thats killing them.

    HAte to complain considering we won, but sometimes you find positives in a loss, and negatives in a win, just the way it goes.

  331. Everlasting1 says:

    Like $3.75/yr isn’t motivation enough.

     

      ”We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  332. Dintrox says:

    I think moving sergei has done wonders to Andre’s attitude. The Habs need some secondary scoring fast. Still have three more games this week including another back to back, we need to have more than one line and Price.

    December 4, 2009 – Elmer Lach’s jersey took its rightful place with the Rocket’s in the rafters.

  333. observer says:

    the only thing that  has changed kostitsyn’s attitude is this IS his contract year.


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