Game 65: Canadiens send snowbirds home happy

Panthers goaltender Tomas Vokoun is beaten by a shot from Canadiens’ Andrei Kostitsyn in the first period on Thursday night. Hans Deryk, Reuters

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• At a Glance: The Canadiens played before thousands of their fans in Florida on Thursday night and send them out into the warm night happy with a 4-0 win over the Panthers. The Canadiens got their first goal from an unlikely source when Hal Gill scored his first of the season with a point shot that eluded a screened Tomas Vokoun at 5:02. Andrei Kostitsyn, who has been playing well since being placed on a line with Lars Eller and Travis Moen, scored with a rocket of a shot at 8:54 that Vokoun had no chance on. It was Montreal’s second goal on only three shots and ended Vokoun’s night, replaced by Scott Clemmensen. Davis Desharnais made it 3-0 4:59 into the second period when his weak shot went off Clemmensen and dribbled over the goal line.Eller scored his fifth goal of the season 3:21 into the third period when he redirected a Moen pass over Clemmensen’s shoulder. Canadiens goaltender Carey Price made 30saves for his 30th win of the season and seventh shuout.

• What It Means: Montreal has won three straight games and improves to 34-23-7 for 77 points for sixth place in the Eastern Conference, six points ahead of the Hurricanes, who moved into seventh place on Thursday night. Montreal trails the Capitals by three points for fifth place.

• What’s Next: The Canadiens play the Lightning in Tampa Bay on Saturday before returning home to play the Bruins on Tuesday night. They then hit the road again for games in St. Louis and Pittsburgh next Thursday and Saturday, respectively.

439 Comments

  1. Displaced says:

    Great coaches adapt a style to suit their personnel. Good ones conform talent to their system. But then, I never said JM was a great coach.  It would be nice if JM adapted his style to fit a depleted D-corpes and the small, fast supposed scorers we paid big money to sign.  It doesn’t need to be a huge change, but some something to balance our need to score with the mountain of evidence that his D system is really just hope to hell the G saves a lot more than can be reasonably expected.

    Whose leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  2. The Cat says:

    Its true, its mind boggling how slow the habs D is. This team couldnt run and gun with most, the system also protects Price. Its a decent system, not so much if youre a forward on a contract year cause offensive forwards aint gonna put big numbers under such a system. But do I think this is the way to go for the habs -yes I do. Ive watched games and the D is awful slow, it aint funny how slow Gill, Spacek and Hamrlik are compared to other teams forwards.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  3. LA Loyalist says:

    That’s the other guy we need: Gustovich, put him with Gille Guile and we are Molson’s Golden.

  4. Propwash says:

    Boump chicka wow wow

  5. Displaced says:

    My word today is parity.  Whatever their business and strategic objectives might be, I applaud the NHL’s efforts to level the competitive playing field.  Salary cap, revenue sharing, and less restrictive player movement are all good things.  Look no further than the Western Conference to see how these changes manifest themselves in real life.

    Now, that being said, parity also makes it more difficult to see how teams and players differ. So, revisit my foggy memory of the stats classes I skipped and slept through, I applied a little logic (admittedly, very little) and worked the standard deviations from the mean for a bunch of things.  I started with 09-10 points, GF, GA and goal differential for each team and added up the SDs to see where we ranked. 

    More detail and interesting (to me) factoids follow, but I’ll start with the Habs stuff.

    For those keeping score we had 88 points (avg=92), 217 GF (232), 223 GA (233, yeah rounding), and a minus 6 goal differential (0, duh).  Our total SD was -.71, which placed us 18th among all NHL teams last season. 

    So what’s the point — (that’s the question I’d ask at this point) — Good news.  This year we are up 4 spots to in overall SD rank to 14th.  We are also +0.71 SDs in GA (10th) and -0.60 SDs in GF (23rd). 

    Next step, how much of this is due to Lord Carey?  Run the same analysis for G’s using wins, GAA, SV% and shutouts. Price is 5th.  The top four in SD order are: Thomas, Lundquist, Rinne and Quick.  The point here is, we have (statistically) the fifth best goaltender and the 10th best GA.  That tells me our D is probably weaker than average – which we expect when we miss Markov and Gorges.  And, it means our offense is horrible.  The glass half full folks should take this to mean that when Gorges returns next year, our D-corps will improve and our GA ranking should improve with it.  The glass half empty folks will complain about not adding scoring to shore up our weakest spot better our chances in the playoffs. 

    ———

    Now, for those of you still interested, there were some other non-Habs points of interest. 

    Last season’s top four teams in SD ranked order were: Washington, Chicago, SJ, and Vancouver.  The West played out almost perfectly.   Chicago knocked out Vancouver, then SJ.  The East was a mess.  Philly (#13) beat NJ (10), we knocked off the Caps (yeah, us).  Then Philly (13) correctly beat Boston (14) and upset Pittsburgh (9).  The rest you know.

    This year the top 15 are mess relative to their points-only rank.  But, I didn’t take into consideration games in hand, which might explain some of the variances.  The top four SD teams right now are also top four in points albeit in slightly different order: Vancouver (1), Philly (2), Boston (3) and Detroit (4).  TB, Washington, Chicago and LA are outliers.  TB ranks #15 by SD (5th in points), aficionados and Habs fans will appreciate this is a true ranking for a team with great scorers and no D.  The Caps are 11th, three places below their points ranking (9), Chicago is 6th in SD land versus 9th overall in points and LA is 8th in SD versus 13th in points.  I didn’t take into consideration games in hand, which might explain some of the variances.

    Among goaltenders, Thomas is literally off the charts with an 8.1, Lundquist 3.9, Rinne 3.6, Quick 3.5 and Price 3.3.  Luongo is close at 3.1 and then a big drop off to Crawford at 2.3.

    Trade deadline deal I dumped on — LA picking up Penner.  I don’t like the Penner move, but check out (SD #8 ranked) LA.  Quick is top 5.  Their GA SD rank is #4.  Their weak spot is offense.  Their GF rank is 16th.  If you add Penner’s 21 goals to date, LA would be 6th in GF rank and 6th overall, with a big drop off to #7. 

    Whose leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  6. ManApart says:

    I’ll say 9-7-2, for 95 total points. 11 out of 18 on the road, with a number of tough opponents. Seems a little over .500 is realistic.

  7. SmartDog says:

    5 QUESTIONS

    1.The deadline passed and brother Andrei (and perhaps also his heart) is still with us.  Will he be resigned?

    2. Sopel seems like an AWESOME good guy.  But is he a decent replacement for Gorges?

     

    3. I appreciate Basu’s insights and he says Gauthier and Martin are doing quite a good job.  He’s got a point – several actually.  But do you agree?  (And did you read the article?)

    4. Who’s an important player to this team?  a) Pyatt  b) Moen  c)Neither

    5. Who CAN’T we beat in the first round (at least without some luck and Price at his very best)?

    SD

  8. showey47 says:

    Unless there are more injuries i can’t see any possible reason why picard should dress over weber or mara. He should be the 8th dman at this point and pushed down to 9th when spacek returns.

  9. SmartDog says:

    Hot and cold like theyve been,,,,, 8-8-2… 93 points

     

     

     

  10. showey47 says:

    4) Moen should be important but on alot of nights he doesn’t show it,as for pyatt i probably would have traded him for a pick at the deadline (or to the oilers for stortini who i felt we should have picked up when he was put on waivers). White,IMO will have pyatt’s job next year.

  11. ManApart says:

    AS much as many don’t want to admit it, the absolute top reason, by a long ways, this team is where it is, is Jaques Martin and his assistants. People hate the system, because they claim it is boring and stifles our offensive players, but if they played a more run and gun style like Boucher has in Tampa and weren’t so defensive in mindset, this team would not be in the playoffs. It is their commitment to defense, to limit scoring chances, collapse down low to prevent second opportunities, and forwards clogging up their own side of centre to prevent teams rushing opportunities and odd man rushes, that is the key to the team this season. The forwards defensive mindset in their own zone, helping out by playing lower, is a huge reason a smaller and less physical defensive squad can be successful, no matter who is out there.

  12. observer says:

    #1- Not a free agent. RFA only. Will have serious bargaining power if he wins the Conn Smythe?

  13. SeriousFan09 says:

    1. Not without one hell of a playoff show.

    2. He’ll do Gorges job as best he can, maybe not as well but he’s heart-and-soul, he was big for CHI last season when it mattered.

    3. I find myself in general agreement, I don’t think JM deserves the flak he takes for the most part, I’ve had my issues with him (and still do) but I trust him to handle the bench. PG, it’s too early to really pass or fail him as MTL’s GM but I generally like the moves he has made.

    4. Moen can show up in the playoffs, which is more than what Pyatt can give.

    5. Flyers

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  14. kingstonhabfan says:

    - Can’t see them resigning Kostitsyn.  They shopped him hard at the deadline and for two weeks prior.  There is no way they are putting money back into him.

    - Yes he is a decent replacement for Gorges.  Everything you read and hear about Sopel is positive.  From what has been said lately Sopel is a huge piece that is missing in Chicago right now.  They are playing great now but if you read the media reports in Chicago they talk about how they are going to miss Sopel come playoff time.  Gorges and Sopel together would be great.

    - Totally agree.  Martin has a system for this team and that’s why we are playing the way we are.  BUT- don’t underestimate Muller’s role in all of this.

    - Neither.

    - With Price at his best we can beat anyone- Florida teams do give us fits though…

  15. observer says:

    Let them win tonight to secure that playoff spot even more. One game at a time.

  16. Max_a_million says:

    1. He probably should be.  There is not much better available out there.  We are too privy to his warts watching him everynight.  His stats stack up ok against the alternatives.

    2. He is a decent replacement for the price, Gorges himself would be ideal. 

    3. I think PG is doing a great job, he doesn’t panic and gets what he wants.  We have young players busting through the system finally.  I think JM is tough to watch sometimes, and you will always question a coach’s decisions.  I think his even kiel is perfect for a team in such a tumultous market though.  I am not completely sold on him, but he gets results so I am generally happy.

    4. Both, Pyatt gives you a guy who isn’t going to be upset if he is inthe press box, makes very little money, makes very few mistakes, and skates like the wind.  He is a perfect 13th forward.  Moen is a physical presence and a greta skater.  Again watching him too much we lose some perspective.  He can’t be crazy physical every night or else he wouldn’t make it through a season, especially with our boards. 

    5. I think we can beat anybody, but I am frustrated by our recent experience with the Flyers.  Oh how I would love to beat the Flyers. 

  17. Habnofear says:

    1) Based on AK ‘s performance this year and  the years leading up to it he could stay on a reduced salary.At this time I believe he makes $3.5 mil per and I would say is overpaid $2.25 mil per sounds about right and on a 2 year contract.

    2)He will do fo now. And as much as I like Gorges I still say he’s overrated .(No big shot from the point,has trouble against big forwards,wear down factor caused by size.)

    3)I would take  Steve y and Bouchard in a heart beat over those two HACKS!

    4)Moen (tough guy)

    5)My team,the Fabled Montreal Canadiens will get trashed by  Boston and Philly… period…no contest…in four! And I’m fk’n pissed -off about it….smoking mad and if somebody has something to say bout it go puck yourselves!

  18. GrimJim says:

    Time for your meds, Tony (or proofreading lessons)…

  19. HabFanSince72 says:

    1. Yes.

    2. He seems to be a bit slow.

    3. Been discussed extensively today.

    4. Neither.

    5. The 1976 Canadiens.

  20. HabFanSince72 says:

    I think he was making a joke – in the sense that no one would have given us a chance against the Caps and Pens last year.

  21. Storm Man says:

    So the NFL and the NFLPA are going to have a good meal and some drinks and see who picks up the bill for tonight. Should be interesting what happens Friday.

  22. AH says:

    5. Islanders, Oilers, and Leafs, oh…wait a minute…

  23. VancouverHab says:

    I’ve liked Mara a lot so far  — but I’m not an NHL coach for a good reason ;–)

  24. savethepuck says:

    I am sure everyone is aware of this, but Your Canadiens is on TSN2 in 5 minutes. Episode 1 is about Carey Price, a good warm up for the game.

  25. HabFanSince72 says:

    He certainly won’t get a pay cut. As an RFA he will likely get a nominal raise.

     

  26. WestHab says:

    i was not aware, thanks

  27. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Is there anything in particular you want me to yell at PooPoo tonight if he takes a stupid penalty in the O-Zone?

  28. JD_ says:

    “It’s difficult to play under those circumstances.” - newly-minted Hab, Brent Sopel, on his experience playin’ for the Thrashers in an effectively empty Philips Arena.

    * I’m tellin’ you, there’s somethin’ to the idea the Habs’ game suffers when they go from playin’ in the over-the-top confines of the Bell Centre to the br00tal snoozefest that is the Philips Arena, home to the Atlanta Thrashers. Watchin’ the game on RDS the other night, I’m noticin’ how clearly the sound of the skatin’ and stickwork is comin’ through, and I can hear all the on-ice barkin’. It’s almost like I’m there, man. At one point, my son turns to me and says it sounds like a game bein’ played at the local arena. Accordin’ to Hickey’s piece, Tuesday night was so bad, “RDS play-by-play announcer Pierre Houde had trouble generating any enthusiasm for the game. He asked the sound engineer on the telecast if he could pump up the volume on the crowd noise, but there was nothing to pump up.” Ya can’t put a hearin’ aid on a deaf man, baby.

    * Pathetic. “We’re gonna have a cow, and some pigs, and we’re gonna have, maybe-maybe, a chicken. Down in the flat, we’ll have a little field of…field of alfalfa for the rabbits…for the rabbits…and I get to tend the rab…” *click* You know the rest.

    * Pleks on the point with Newsy for the first PP wave, and Poindexter Bentley with Romeo on the second. Can’t hurt given how Pleks’ speed can cover for any breakouts, although I’m presumin’ he’s not back there for his cannonadin’ drive but, rather, his playmakin’. The other team’s PK is gonna have to decide whether or not it wants to collapse around Newsy’s shot or take time and space away from Pleks. Is there anythin’ Tomas Jagr can’t do?

    * Whazzat? There’s yellin’ ‘n’ intensity at an NHL practice? This just in from news4n00bs™.

    * The Habs will make Marky an offer. I’m hopin’ – emphasis on the notion of hope - term in exchange for cap relief. Best case, he rehabilitates. Medium case, he becomes a goin’ concern for the Molson consortium’s insurer. Worst case, he walks – limps? – and is reborn elsewhere.

  29. Bugs says:

    Mentioned this a week or two back and I’m kinda surprised I didn’t get more hell-blazin ripostes for it.

    I said that within 3 years, Dezzy will be in the top-10 of NHL pt-producers. … And y’all just LET me get away with it.

    I mean, c’mon, are y’all slippin?

  30. Bugs says:

    I think, properly moulded, Poolio could be a 1st line ctr. I truly believe that. Kid’s got skills. …Has faults though too. Ex: for a guy skates so fast and covers so much ground, why is his forecheck not more efficient? He covers, he covers, he closes in, aaaaand he never traps someone and rips the puck away. Ever. Weird, no?

    And Dezzy, well, in my experience, the little guy ALWAYS has more will. The will to prove that not only is he JUST as good as anybody else, but he’s funkin BETTER. Cuz that shuts everybody up. I see Dezzy has that will. Not even a concern for him really; you can just see it in his face.

  31. kempie says:

    Quick question: Now that the trade deadline has passed, do players still have to pass through waivers to go back & forth to the AHL? I ask because this may affect the movement of players like Dawes, Boyd, Pyatt etc.

  32. Storm Man says:

    Nah, No one is slipping Bugs you just come up with some great fiction is all.

  33. SLYDER says:

    also regarding Markov – i think he needs to re-sign to further the development of PK. Markov is the mentor he needs, not Gill. PK is the Markov of the future…with much more flare. Markov will instill discipline and a better understanding of the defensive aspect of being a defenceman – this will enable him to make clearer decisions regarding when to show some flare and to just keep it simple

  34. savethepuck says:

    Top 10 may be a stretch but I read an article on him posted here from the Hockey News a few weeks ago comparing him to St Louis and how small players take longer to mature because they take longer to get their shot in the top lines because of their size. Marty”s break out year was when he was 27( maybe 26 I forget)

  35. DrewCareyPriceIsRight says:

    Aren’t ya also a huge Benny fan? What is it with all this luv for the underdog? :)

  36. habs03 says:

    Yup 4, until your AHL team is no longer in the playoffs and you can call everyone up!

  37. HUDSONHAB says:

    Dezzy who ??? lol.

    ….Hab4life….

  38. Nahlsy says:

    #5 is the Leafs because there’s no way they’ll make it to the playoffs to give the Habs the chance to beat them. (or any team in the Western Conference since they can’t play any of those teams in round one)

  39. TomNickle says:

    I believe PK was used as an emergency call up due to the injury to Spacek.

  40. Psycho29 says:

    TSN2 Has a great feature on Carey Price right now…

  41. savethepuck says:

    Benny’s a former top 5 draft pick. That’s not an underdog.

  42. Psycho29 says:

    Sorry…hadn’t noticed that you already posted it!

  43. TomNickle says:

    PK brings a physical element that Markov doesn’t.  I agree that Markov should be mentoring him(and I believe he is as we speak), but Gill is by no means a bad mentor when you consider how well Subban has played with his guidance.  

    Having more than one mentor is okay.

  44. mbplekfan says:

    PK doesnt need hockey mentoring. He is getting life mentoring from Gill. It helps to have an older friend on the ice with you to keep you calm and feel safe. It helps to have a veteran presence to learn about pro hockey from.

    I dont think Markov’s personality lends itself to mentoring. Certainly not to a personality like PK.

    Markov’s presence may go a long way to luring Emelin to come over and play as Markov is a national hero in Russia.

  45. LA Loyalist says:

    1. If he cranks it up in the playoffs, yes. Otherwise, why?

    2. Sopel, agreed. He’s not replacing Gorges, he’s filling in for Gorges and hopefully then will replace someone else. There is no guaranty we can sign the Wiz (tho I want to) and the mileage on Gill, Hammer and Spacek is getting up there).

    3. I was screaming mad about Basu’s article this morning and no longer have the energy to brawl about it.

    4. Neither.

    5. Philly, New Jersey, Washington, no. I wouldn’t bet a nickel against NJ right now and they will scare the crap out of whomever they meet in the first round, if they get there. Boston, Pittsburgh, Leafs we can beat if we play well and ignore JM’s directives. Supplemental: Why we don’t match up against the first 3? a) while I think we will be a bit better able to protect our goalie than last year with Sopel and Wiz, and the fact that Cary is bigger than Halak, in the other zone we still cannot go to the net with authority and create chaos which begets opportunity. Imagine Gomez playing against Arnott, even an older on the way out Arnott. Imagine him playing against Ovechkin. Sorry, I know it hurts.

  46. Bugs says:

    The only comparison to draw with St-Louie is the fact they both wear the same size pants.

    One’s a ctr; one’s a winger. Compare the kid to friggin Savard and thrill me. Nevermind the 5’7″ angle. Seems narrow-minded in my opinion.

  47. TomNickle says:

    I don’t believe you can, there is an NHL roster limit.  If your NHL team is eliminated from the playoffs and your AHL team is still going I believe you can send down any player on a two way deal but not the other way around.

  48. Bugs says:

    For the last time, Gomez is staying!

    Sheesh, people, let it go.

  49. Storm Man says:

    Was BB not on TSN with his thong in a bunch about having only 4 players called up from the AHL for the rest of the year,

  50. HalifaxHabs says:

    1) yes

    2) yes

    3) yes

    4) Moen

    5) If Price is at his “very best”, then no one, but Philly if I had to pick one.

  51. TomNickle says:

    I don’t know but I’m pretty sure that when you’re AHL team is done you can’t call up 20 guys.  I’m pretty sure that you have a roster limit, I believe it’s 23.

  52. andrewberkshire says:

    Roster limit is either expanded or doesn’t exist in the playoffs. A couple years ago Detroit was carrying about 26 guys.

  53. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    Nevermind tonight, or Saturday… this is what should be of concern to us:

    FROM BRUINS FAN:

    “But what was beautiful was seeing your habs get pounded on live television. Yes when i saw pyatt, hamrlik, and spacek get there faces disfigured i laughed so hard. It was magnificent.

    What are we going to do to counter the masacre on March 8th? has Henry been mobilized? what about Conboy? has he been recalled… we better be ready.

    1:The N.A.G.S. (North American Grit Speed) Youth Movement will bring us respect. 2: 02/09/11 never forget the masacre 3. ..call up WHITE/SHULTZ/HENRY/PAX now.

  54. TomNickle says:

    I just read that it’s 23 up until the deadline.  Maybe it is gone.  I find it much more likely that for every player on IR beyond your 23 man roster you would be able to add one player.

    I know that when Wilkes-Barre Scranton got eliminated a couple of years ago that the Pens called up Tangradi, Jeffrey, Conner and a couple of others, but it’s entirely possible that they were only carrying 20 at the time with one or two on IR already.

  55. HardHabits says:

    I remember the last bet you made.

    With the the added grit of Sopel and Mara, the Habs can beat either or both of those teams but they need to be disciplined. If they are they can beat the Flyers and/or Bruins.

    It depends which team shows up. The one with cold efficiency or the one that loses its head in the heat of the moment.

  56. Sportfan says:

    Either way if it is a limkit of 4 does that mean we wasted one with sending down and calling Ryan White up within 2 hours??

  57. blu3chip says:

    You call it a massacre; I call it a goon show.

    Their goal is to win a fight; our goal is to win the cup.

    They laugh when they win a fist fight; we laugh when they lose a 3-0 series in a dramatic fashion.

  58. aemarchand11 says:

    How about we just continue our short term dominance on the scoresheet.

    Go Habs Go! 2010-2011

  59. G-Man says:

    Nothing of the goon vaariety will happen March 8. The NHL and its refs will warn both benches before the game starts. I expect a quiet affair.
    Your hyperbole notwithstanding, it will be a regular hockey game.

  60. lenny says:

     the NHL should be ashamed for letting this happen, watching this franchise is like watching an an animal suffer…hope they are put out of their misery soon

  61. G-Man says:

    Emelin is all about the bucks. He won’t come over unless he’s making too much cash. He’s playing in a 2nd rate league right now. Is he a good Dman? Who the hell knows, because he has been playing against inferior competition for years.

  62. OneTimer says:

    Nice post, dog. Re: the first part – the Habs part – and how Carey/the team’s stats are good despite lower-than-average defense. Man…I dream about what a dominant, healthy defensive corps we could have next year. Knock on wood.

  63. andrewberkshire says:

    Oh well, whatever the case I’m guessing Dawes at least has a good chance of being called up in the playoffs.

  64. HalifaxHabs says:

    I have bad news for you… the Habs won’t look to get even with Boston by fighting. We’ll be sticking to our game plan that has us up 3-1 in the season series.

    Don’t get me wrong, I would pay my hard earned money to see Lucic unconscious and bleeding on the ice… but we’re going to have to settle for beating them on the scoreboard, and just being a far superior organization over time.

  65. TripleX says:

    Would the team really be worse off sending Pyatt down and trying Dawes with DD and Pouliot?

    Pyatt is 5’11′” and 175.  Dawes is 5’9″ and 200.  Pyatt is riding the press box anyway.

  66. G-Man says:

    Maybe when he learns to stop falling on his face all by himself will he become a better player. I am amazed at how often he is on his ass and there’s never anyone around him. Kind of like that shot he took off the faceoff the other night in Atlanta. DD wins the draw, Benny winds up and slaps it and falls on his face with no one touching him. He has the most horrible balance of an NHLer I have ever seen.

  67. Habs_Fan_In_Edmonton says:

    Yes, lets waste all four of our allowed post trade deadline call ups to be able to fight with the bruins and play exactly the style of game they want us to. Or, we could save our call ups, play our game, let them take their stupid penalties, capitalize on the subsequent power plays, and win the game. I dont know, tough call

  68. LA Loyalist says:

    I am biting my tongue. Needs ketchup.

  69. kempie says:

    I wouldn’t expect a quiet affair. I’m expecting a fast, passionate playoff type game. Given the importance of the match and what transpired last time, both teams will want the W bad. But you’re right as far as the shenanigans. The league will have a very close eye on this game especially after the last game & the PIT/NYI goonshow a few nights later. Calling up guys like Conboy who can’t skate, pass or score but can deliver a good beatdown is a good way to lose a big game.

  70. TomNickle says:

    If the lines remain like this I don’t see a fit for him…….

    Plekanec, Cammalleri, Halpern

    Gomez, Pacioretty, Gionta

    Eller, Kostitsyn, Moen

    Desharnais, Pouliot, Pyatt/Darche.

    I guess you could put him with Desharnais and Pouliot but that’s a risky proposition.  I wouldn’t be in any hurry to break up the Eller and Gomez lines.  I think Plekanec’s line could use more size going into the playoffs and Dawes certainly won’t be seeing top line duty.  

  71. HabFanSince72 says:

     This Bruins fan sounds like the Grande Dame of HNIC, Don Cherry.

     

  72. derfab says:

    I personally would love to see more nastiness, but the smart kind. Provoke Chara with more shoves and Bobby Clarke love taps.

  73. observer says:

    obama-wants-the-nfl-nflpa-to-avoid-a-lockout/

  74. HabFanSince72 says:

    True scene in Atlanta, Georgia:

    On the court-room steps a woman is crying unconsolably. Through the tears, she says to the man who is with her: “I can’t believe we’re divorced”.

    He takes her hand and says, “I know, but cheer up, at least we’re still cousins”.

     

  75. LA Loyalist says:

    Considering we’ve been .500 for weeks, I think your goal is realistic if the wheels don’t come off and our back end stabilizes now with Mara, Sopel. Hammer and Gill can ease off their minutes a little.

    It still comes down to generating some offense, though, not that JM cares about that.

  76. HardHabits says:

    Carey Price doesn’t need to carry the team. The team is much better than last year. But oh wait a minute, Carey, not Gary, Price is way better this year than Halak was last year.

    Oh and another thing. You sound like an idiot when you post stuff like that. Seriously.

    Nuff said…… 

  77. PrimeTime says:

    HaHa….Bosh misses!

  78. Psycho29 says:

    I know you are probably a Leafs fan, but it’s CAREY Price, not GARY…..

  79. blu3chip says:

    The Laffs are still 10 points behind.

    We do see a trend here.

    Do miserable in the beginning of the season, sell the team before trade deadline, make a playoff push, miss playoffs again, ‘rebuild’ during summer, declare the team will make playoffs before season starts, do miserable in the beginning of the season…

  80. JohnBellyful says:

    Zippity doo dah, zippity aye,
    My, oh my, can those Canadiens play
    Beat up the Panthers, o what a day!
    Zippity doo dah, zippity aye.

    Mister Boobird’s off my shoulder
    It’s the truth, it’s actual
    Ev’rything is satisfactual
    Zippity doo dah, zippity aye,
    Wonderful feeling, wonderful day, yes sir!

  81. GERRY FROM THE WEST ISLAND says:

    Before everyone starts celebrating and lining up for the Stanley Cup parade I would like to point out that there’s a reason that this organization has not even made it to the Stanley Cup final since 1993. Gary Price has improved, but he has not demonstrated to me that he can win games by himself as halak did last year against Washington and Pittsburgh. I would also like to point out that Price is between 15th and 17th in goals against average and in save percentage. Also remember the Montréal Canadiens playing extremely an defensive system, and that can only help a goalie, nevertheless carry prices statistics are way down with regard to key parameters. Does anybody think that Carey Price can carry the Montréal Canadiens through the playoffs the way halak did last year? I just don’t see it happening. There’s a reason of the Montréal Canadiens have done nothing in the last 18 years. This team and organization seems to specialize in self-delusion. The probability is that if we make the playoffs the Canadians will be eliminated in the first round either due to poor goaltending play, missing key defenseman, or the total lack of imagination that JM has demonstrated during his multiple years of coaching in the NHL.

  82. savethepuck says:

    So true.

  83. Bugs says:

    Cursory glance at the comments shows my boy’s Pass of the Year ain’t gettin the love it deserves.

    Whaddup wit dat?

  84. athanor says:

    Shouldn’t that be 35 wins?

  85. habs03 says:

    lol, just like those “Halak fans” that said Carey would be run out of town by the 20th game.

  86. Mark C says:

    First Hamrlik and now Kubina, that Thornton sure likes picking on big and better fighters than he is.

  87. habs365 says:

    if they can beat TB saturday that will be a big 2-points

  88. Ian Cobb says:

    VERY IMPORTANT FOR EVERYONE>!

    I would realy like everyone to read this link. I sent it to Gary Bettman’s office and the players assosiation.

    http://www.ckac.com/football/nouvelles/vid-o-la-dure-realite-d-un-commotionne-du-foot-62684.html

  89. Jeff says:

    Let me see…..the Leafs beat the Habs, the Bruins, the Pens, & now the Flyers.

    Is anyone seeing a trend here or are you all still referring to them as the Laffs?

    Who will laugh last?

  90. PrimeTime says:

    cuz those that b*tch dont like to admit they are wrong….when Habs lose, it justifies their opinions which they gladly share to all those that read ‘em

  91. icemachine says:

    Hal Gill with the Game Winning Goal!

     

    Its time to switch to whiskey, we’ve been drinkin’ beer all night

  92. joeybarrie says:

    A 23 year old goalie with 30 wins took a long time to hit his stride? Most goalies his age haven’t seen 30 games in the NHL.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  93. habs365 says:

    feel sorry for sopel and I’m sure he does..these things happen he’s a good Dman

  94. habs365 says:

    and a lot of guys wanna get rid of AK..should PG do that..these guys that wished for it as well as PG will eat crow….

  95. Ian Cobb says:

    We are getting ready to play sound hockey in the up coming real play off season. We have a good squad this year.

    Martin will be putting players  together to match up against different style of opponents as we finish the regular practice season. We now have a full complement of quality players. 8D and 2 extra forwards.  Now we start the real hockey season. We will go deeper this year into the play offs than last.

    Kind of fun to win by a bunch for a change tonight, but we were playing a poorer team tonight. Saturday night we will be back to a 1 goal differential game again.

     

  96. HardHabits says:

    I am having mine with a side of humble pie.

  97. JohnBellyful says:

    Hal Gill scored? OUR Hal Gill? Well, if that ain’t sign the season has turned in our favour and we’re Stanley Cup-bound, then I don’t know what is. (But that’s true of a lot of things). It’s nice to see that Gill finally bought into The System (the part where it says it’s okay for the defence to score).

    And what can we say about Eller that hasn’t already been said by Bugs? A whole bunch, actually. I know, let’s not get carried away. It was only Florida. Tampa will be the real test.

    Caught the last part of the Leafs game. Scary scenario: Toronto and New Jersey make the playoffs. Scary if you’re the top teams, scary if you haven’t secured a playoff spot.

    Best hit of the night happened before the game, when Phaneuf and Komisarik collided in the warmup. Conjured up images of other collisions you’d like to see happen during actual contests, with collateral damage all around: Chara and Pronger, Richards and Lucic, Briere and Marchand, Cooke and Avery.

  98. savethepuck says:

    How come when the Habs lose, this site has people typing so much bitching about this team, I’m surprised they don’t get carpal tunnel. When they win, it is dead on here. Second night in a row.

  99. savethepuck says:

    How come when the Habs lose, this site has people typing so much bitching about this team, I’m surprised they don’t get carpal tunnel. When they win, it is dead on here. Second night in a row.

  100. Say Ash says:

    Jose Theodore in 2001-02:

    30-24-10 record, 2.11 GAA, 931 save percentage, seven shutouts

    Carey Price this year:

    30-21-6, 2.34 GAA, .922 save percentage, seven shutouts

  101. HabFanSince72 says:

    Boston thugged it up against Tampa Bay. Thornton even challenged Kubina to a fight.

     

  102. Say Ash says:

    Gary Price may refer to: American librarian or British rugby league footballer” – Wikipedia

  103. Rainrocket16 says:

    Do you have it in english?

  104. samTHEman says:

    before his posts today, this dude’s last post goes way back the night we dropped the opener against the leafs. this guy screams MULTI (account)

  105. LA Loyalist says:

    My last art director escaped from Rumania. They used to use shoe polish to put designs on t-shirts because there was no silk-screen ink. He has a lot of funny stories like that. The bureaucracy is so bad if you ever went into a Romanian prison, even for a day, they were likely to forget about you, not out of malice, but sheer sloth and incompetence.

    So be careful what you wish for :)

  106. Rainrocket16 says:

    I think Florida should change their names to the Snowbirds. What a moral victory, the youngsters enjoyed that and I think it was the first disciplined game since the All Star break. Damn Bruins, Caps, and Laughs all scored the GW in the final 5 minutes of their games….FFS!!! 

  107. Propwash says:

    It was a tidbit of info I heard in international news yesterday.

  108. andrewberkshire says:

    hahaha perfect response.

  109. observer says:

    2005 thats 6 years ago, took Price a long time to hit his stride but certainly has now. Should have had 2 shutouts the last 2 games had Sopel not coughed up the puck in Atlanta.

  110. HardHabits says:

    Each player has their own path to greatness. Is Price the next Roy? No. He’s the next Carey Price, that’s all. Up to now he’s shown remarkable poise given the pressure cooker that is Montreal.

    So far his record is pretty damn good also and I think many Habs fans like that he’s our team’s net-minder.

    I still think that if Price had been brought up in his 1st year only for the play-offs rather than play out the full season in Montreal the Habs would’ve won the Cup that year. My opinion I know but it stands.

    Price’s regular season numbers are great to say the least. Making those comparisons show that he is the real deal. And he’s only 23 and really, really looks like he’s only going to get better.

    If the Habs have a shot at winning the Cup in the near future it rest on that young man’s shoulders.

  111. andrewberkshire says:

    And 52 fewer playoff wins. And Brodeur has played longer.

  112. blu3chip says:

    Read what I post.

    I post both players’ 4th year stats.

    When Price wins this 3rd cup with us (bad news for you), I may come back and post comparison between the two players, not just a single season.

  113. habs365 says:

    the 3rd and 4th line won this one..no points from the 1st and 2nd line..the wiz was great..glad to see big Hal get one and..carey was perfect and deserved the shutout..overall a very good game…….

  114. Ian Cobb says:

    I have translate on my google bar.

  115. Propwash says:

    So, I guess therapy day, and taking the morning off wasn’t such a bad idea afterall.

  116. HalifaxHabs says:

    Very nice win… how funny was that back to back post hitting sequence with Max & AK…. well only funny because the game was in hand at that point.

    It’s hard not to be a little excited with the way Eller and AK seem to be fitting together.

  117. Duracell3 says:

    1967. Yep, still laughing.

  118. Duracell3 says:

    I suppose it depends on the situation, for instance I can’t think of the last time I saw Kovalev play LW, but its probably because of the shooting angle for that type of player, I doubt that it makes a different offensively for someone like Moen, but it may be detremental defensively for him.

  119. solomio says:

    HH have you seen the draft pikcs that Burke has on the table.? If he makes any right decisions they Laffs will be a contender in the very near future.

    You heard it here first.

  120. SeriousFan09 says:

    Considering Nashville’s dire need for scoring, I doubt they’re giving up a kid on the first year of his EL contract. Their big offseason signing for offence of Lombardi went to **** when he suffered a concussion (see brain injury) that he is still recovering from.

    That franchise can find a defencemen in a coal mine with no lighting, but offence has always eluded them in the draft save Alex Radulov (who hopped off to the KHL).

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  121. solomio says:

    Gerry … yoi make some very valid points. I would take issue with “…. poor goaltending……” . CP has been consisitently good infact I’ve noticed that the ” atleast one bad goal syndrome ” has left the building.
    IMO it won’t be CP but rather lack of goal scoring that will be the Habs downfall this playoff season.

  122. sampson12 says:

    speachless

  123. Da Hema says:

    Well, I wouldn’t have drafted either Danny Geoffrion or Ben Maxwell. So what’s the point here?

  124. Former Jets Fan says:

    You shouldn’t have to kid.  Captain of the National Champion and Hobey Baker winner as a senior.  From Hockeysfuture : 

    Talent Analysis

    Geoffrion is an excellent two-way forward that combines of size, power and energy. He thrives on the physical side of the game and can often be found delivering some very solid checks. Geoffrion is an outstanding skater with good agility, and power in his strides. He possesses very good hockey sense and on-ice vision. He utilizes his 6’2 frame quite effectively, particularly along the boards and in one-on-one situations. He is sound defensively as well. He’ll drive to the net hard and shown a willingness to go into the difficult areas to make the play. Geoffrion possesses a very hard shot and can get pucks to the net. While Geoffrion possesses good puck skills, he could stand to shoot the puck more often. 

    Isn’t that exactly what we want?  Quite sure Nashville covets him though – he is after all the first homegrown Tennessee NHL’er.

  125. observer says:

    Leafs win again, edge closer. Lars Eller is getting better every game.

  126. Da Hema says:

    Two words: Danny Geoffrion.

    ;-)

  127. Mike D says:

    So I guess you didn’t notice the “LOL, I kid” comment in my post, then?  Has HIO become so stiff that we can’t even joke around after a win?  Geez.

    Truth be told, I’d trade an equivalent player for him (Pyatt maybe).  Why not?  He’s 23, 6’1″ and 195 lbs. which wouldn’t make us any smaller.  It would be cool to have the NHL’s first 4th generation player also be the Habs first 4th generation player (I believe his dad played for us a bit too).

    - Honestly yours

  128. Mike D says:

    Boom Boom’s son…..a.k.a Blake’s dad?  What about him?

    - Honestly yours

  129. SeriousFan09 says:

    Canadiens were mocked for taking Carey Price 5th overall in 2005 Gilbert Brule, who was taken after him at 6th has 81 career points to Carey’s 90 NHL wins and has as many goals as Carey has shutouts this season.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  130. LA Loyalist says:

    It didn’t take Roy 3 years to get good. 

    I have no problem with Price now, I hope he wins a bunch of cups for us.

  131. Da Hema says:

    He was a draft bust. One should draft/sign/trade for players based on skill not name.

  132. SeriousFan09 says:

    Geoffrion’s a lot more skilled than Ben Maxwell, the 2nd-rounder we took instead from our completely flopped draft class of 2006 save Ryan White.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  133. MontrealAtheist says:

    Hmmm, do we really want this dude in our team? We need talent, not names …

  134. Mike D says:

    BTW, Boom Boom’s grandson, Blake Geoffrion got the game winner tonight against the mighty Canucks.

    Is it too early to start the “Blake Geoffrion for ________ Habs player” trade debate yet? LOL, I kid.

    - Honestly yours

  135. HardHabits says:

    Who are you and what have you done with observer?

    I am kidding BTW. St. Louis fans must be pissed.

  136. SeriousFan09 says:

    Meant really a strong shot at winning the Cup.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  137. MontrealAtheist says:

    Too bad that the Bruins and Caps keep on winning almost every game, too, lately … This way we’ll never be able to catch them lol

  138. SeriousFan09 says:

    I don’t think MTL has the lineup to beat PHI in a 7-game series right now outside of Carey Price just doing pulling a Roy, but I’d take my chances with Boston.

    I still consider the Beantown Brawl an aberration over everything, Montreal has dominated Boston this season (and last) except for that game (and even then we ripped off 6 goals on Thomas, a goalie MTL has never been challenged by) and in a playoff series, I’m more than willing to see the Habs take them on. The only addition they’ve made that has me concerned is Rich F. Peverly, one of the top Habs killers in the NHL.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  139. observer says:

    Looks like after all the dust has started to settle that Gauthier really outsmarted the St. Louis GM bigtime in the Halak for Eller (plus Shultz) trade?

  140. SLYDER says:

    what do those three teams have to do with MTL making the finals?

  141. VancouverHab says:

    Worth bringing over, by Mr. Boone from “Quick Hits”

    “Welcome to the HIO Comments section, a daycare with a liquor licence.” That, & the Markov puppert show, surely earns tenure….

  142. SLYDER says:

    other than PHI, sorry

  143. kempie says:

    < S  L  O  W  •  C  L  A  P >

  144. HardHabits says:

    I don’t see How DET of VAN can stop the Habs from making the Finals. :p

    I didn’t like the losses to Philly this season nor the beantown beatdown. I never liked losing to the Flyers in the Play-offs but they’ve owned us since we last beat them in ’76.

    I still think this team can beat those teams and believe it or not the additions of Sopel and Mara can help those causes.

    It’ll boil down to the Habs playing disciplined JM hockey.

    My other suspicion is that JM is not as obvious as people think him to be. My belief is that he, like BG, holds his cards close to his chest and doesn’t give anything away. At least not the real stuff. My prediction is that JM has a few tricks up his sleeve yet.

    The last two Habs teams that won Cups were not contenders so I wouldn’t count this edition out yet.

    I still don’t want to see them get mauled by any opponent, certainly not the Bruins or the Flyers. The Habs have beaten the Big Bad Bruins before. The Flyers worry me though so yes I am hoping they meet the Leafs in the 1st round and the Leafs do us a favour and beat them.

  145. light_n_tasty says:

    I love you.

  146. christophor says:

    You guys have a thing or two to learn about Romania.

    The ignorance is comical.

  147. Mike D says:

    I don’t think Pics is as bad as some have accused him of being on HIO. He’s got a low cap hit, doesn’t gripe about sitting in the press box or have a negative affect on team chemistry (by all reports), is still young and provides size and the occasional big hit when he plays. What more can you really ask for from a 7th dman?

    I just wonder what we’re gonna do next year with regards to Mara, Sopel, Picard, and Spacek. All four of them are gonna be 6th-7th Dmen and we really can’t keep more than one of them (in addition to Spatch since he’s signed already). You can likely throw Weber in that list too.

    - Honestly yours

  148. Da Hema says:

    Price’s record is impressive considering he has never had the quality players in front of him as Roy was fortunate to have throughout his career. I submit that if Price was the goaltender for teams with players such as Chris Chelios, Larry Robinson, Eric Desjardins, Bobby Smith, Mats Naslund, Kirk Muller, Adam Foote, Peter Forsburg, Ray Bourque, or Joe Sakic, he too would win a Stanley Cup.

    In other words, how good would Roy have been if he had to play with an Alexandre Picard.

  149. MattZ says:

    Do you write for stand up comedians??? Cuz this is the funniest shit I have read all year. You mention that the Habs play an extremely defensive system, yet no mention that 3 of the original 6 defense are out injured. The Habs do not score much, actually they are one of the worst when it comes to goals scored, meaning there is close to no margin for error. Which means there are not too many bad goals going in, correction not too many goals period.

     

    P.S Why is the defensive system the reason for Price’s success and not Halak’s? I am sorry, but you and this post must be some kind of bad joke.

  150. samTHEman says:

    Forgot to mention. Remember the famous AK-Plek-Cam line? AK and Cam are both left-handed.

  151. Mike D says:

    Absolutely agreed. Ovie loves to go to the opposite side but typically plays the left (as another example to your point).

    I’m just not sure that our wingers who play the opposute side do it because they prefer it, or out of necessity due to our team’s lack of actual RW’s. That’s all I was trying to say.

    - Honestly yours

  152. SeriousFan09 says:

    And Alex Picard playing didn’t ruin everything forever!

    I’ve stopped griping about a lineup until I’ve seen it play.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  153. blu3chip says:

    There aren’t yet. Maybe there will, maybe there won’t.

    When a dude pulls out Theodore’s one season of stats and compare it with Price’s, why not do the same thing with Roy’s?  :D  We are really just comparing two different sets of stats, have little to do with the players as a whole. They played in front of different players, different coaches, different era.

    Both comparisons are completely meaningless.

  154. Mike D says:

    I remember the line well.  My theory was always that since Cammy is the better of the 2 players, they let him play his natural side and had AK make the switch.  I believe they let AK play the left side on the other lines they’ve put him on this year.  Either that or AK is just more flexible.

    Oddly enough Cammy was actually a centre that converted to a winger.

    A wingers shot-handedness doesn’t necessarily determine which wing he plays (although I agree most righties play RW, and lefties play LW).  As you said, some players prefer playing the off-wing and are more productive that way.

    - Honestly yours

  155. blu3chip says:

    It is bad for the trolls. Now they don’t have anything to bitch about.

    But some still managed to dig out some stupid crap and whine.

  156. Mike D says:

    I’ll give it up to Benny. That pass was 3 different kinds of sick. Good on DD for finishing it off too and not letting it go to waste.

    - Honestly yours

  157. samTHEman says:

    Kostitsyn and Moen are both Lefties yet they play wing on the same line. Some players actually like playing on the opposite side (on the LW with a Right stick or RW with a Left stick).

  158. andrewberkshire says:

    Beat me to it.

  159. HardHabits says:

    I think he has 12 picks next draft. Very impressive to say the least. I gather he’ll use a few to move up too. Blast it all. :p

    I agree with your assessment too. As much as we love to relish in the Leafs miserable management over the years and can’t stand that blow-hard Burke, I believe he will make moves that will considerably improve that team.

    Leafs fans should be patient.

  160. SeriousFan09 says:

    And 52 fewer playoff wins.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  161. Say Ash says:

    So true. Even Brodeur has three Conn Smythe trophies less than Roy.

  162. HardHabits says:

    I forgot that series because of the outcome of the next round I guess. :(

  163. Mike D says:

    I’m not against your suggestion by any means, but you have 2 LW’s on the Pleks line and 2 RW’s with Gomez (Halpy is a centre, obviously you know this, but he’s a RH shot so plays that side if he plays wing).

    I think this team’s lack of RW’s (Gio is our only one) is the reason why JM put Halpy with Pleks and Cammi.  It gives them a grittier-type of forward who is a RH shot and has shown some offensive flare at times this year.  Without an actual RW to play that spot, Halpy is decent alternative and also gives us another look in the faceoff circle depending on the side of the ice it’s on, if Pleks is doing poorly there, or if Pleks gets booted out of the circle.  That and we have an excess of Centres anyway so somebody’s gotta play in a different spot.

    - Honestly yours

  164. SeriousFan09 says:

    If DET, PHI and VAN fall to early upsets, I’d bet an even money bet on them making the Finals with Carey backstopping this team.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  165. Trisomy 21 says:

    Yeah seeing all those negative nancies is almost as annoying as reading how surprised people are that more ppl are quick to point out a team’s faults than to sing praise about a win.

     

    But that’s because

    A) Ppl are celebrating or B) it was goddamn Florida and the fact the habs beat an AHL team doesn’t mean much anyways

  166. JIMVINNY says:

    I thought about refuting some of your more eroneous statements, as others have done, but I’m just not feeling it right now.  Instead, I’ll tell you this;

     

    I actually miss morons like you sometimes.  When it’s so brutally obvious that you are no longer in touch with reality, it warms my heart to have you come here and provide the rest of us with comic relief.  Thank you.

  167. The Teacher says:

    Who? Moen?

  168. andrewberkshire says:

    Carey Price is 6th overall in save % among starting goaltenders, and 6th among starters in GAA. 2nd in wins, 2nd in shutouts. Apparently according to Gerry the Halaktard these are bad numbers. I guess Halak of the “quick twitch muscle fibres” is an echl goalie then.

  169. samTHEman says:

    I think the lines for Tampa should be:

    Cam – Plek – Pac

    Gio – Gomez – Halpern

    AK – Eller – Moen

    Pouliot – Desharnais – White/Darche/Pyatt

     

    Pleky makes sweet tape-to-tape saucer passes and Pacioretty being so fast and explosive is able to find holes to sneak through past the D. They need to be together on the same line IMO.

  170. Trisomy 21 says:

    Only idiots like you would line up for a parade when we’re in 6th place. Take your wang out of Halak for a moment. We’re going to need more than great goaltending to win a stanley cup.

  171. LA Loyalist says:

    Patrick Roy: Stanley Cup in his first year 1986, Stanley Cup Finals 1989, Stanley Cup 1993 — post back when Carey Price has comparables to that.

  172. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    lol

  173. andrewberkshire says:

    There are no comparables to Patrick Roy. There just aren’t.

  174. punkster says:

    Gerry, bud, where you been hiding all season? Missed you man. The rants, the bold type, but where’s your trade mark NUF SAID at the end? That was the glue that binds.

    ***Subbang!!!***

  175. andrewberkshire says:

    HE ALSO FORGOT CAPS LOCK AND ITALICS DAVID!!!

    ‘NUFF SED

  176. Nahlsy says:

    Habs put the Flyers away the year (and the night) of the Chelios/Hextall incident.

  177. Propwash says:

    So what yer sayin’ is, Gerry is from Romania??? O_o

  178. LA Loyalist says:

    All I ask is that we get enough meat out of the rest of our season to sustain HIO through the summer of our discontent.

    Is that unreasonable?

  179. Da Hema says:

    In some ancient Greek regimes, if someone proposed an idea at a public assembly that did not receive support from the majority, that person would be summarily executed. Not surprisingly, even the idiots kept their mouths shut. You are lucky we have no such laws here in Canada–although I wonder how much better the posts would be if people were held accountable in this manner for what they write.

  180. Timo says:

    That Price will bring the cup home in 3 years time?

  181. Nahlsy says:

    Luchicken seems to like trying to fight with guys that Horton’s already given a dirty hit to and is already tied up with, and/or then catching a defender at the end of a penalty killing shift. Yet to see him agree to dance with a heavyweight when he didn’t get to sneak up behind them at the end of a shift with someone already tied up with them though.  Thornton’s lost a tonne of points with his pathetic little gong show lately too? How big bad and tough is he to challenge Hamrlik and Kubina? What a gutless turd, I’m waiting for karma to bite these clowns in the butt and have them face a team that drops these low lifes on their heads for their attempted bully antics. Fair fights are over-rated in Boston when they can send their thug after someone that doesn’t fight and feel tuff instead. Wait to hear them cry when a goon grabs Bergeron and cleans his clock as payback sometime.

  182. Nahlsy says:

    Boone should talk. He calls the Flyers and their fans Hitler’s Third Reich, wishes career ending injuries on Komisarek because he had the audacity to take a deal when offered it elsewhere and changed teams and then sits back there chugging his bottle and insulting those who actually bother to show up here and comment here all the time then has the audacity to complain about the behaviour of the fans?

    He’s Charlie Sheen without the girls… (or the money, or the fame, or ….)

  183. Propwash says:

    Or maybe Carey Price and co. have been doing much better than last year?  Oh and all due respect to Halak, he wasn’t the only guy on the ice during the great run the team had last year, plus, he ran outta gas during the Philthydelphia series, as did the rest of the team.

  184. GhostRider says:

    Indeed!  As a habs fan here in Toronto, I see the same trend I’ve seen for several years now.  The Leafs annual march to 9th place has begun.

    In years past it was a real problem since they would lose out on a decent pick for their late season run.

    I guess this year that won’t matter since they don’t even own that pick.  Bonne chance, though!

  185. habstrinifan says:

    A habs win is important because we need our team to consolidate the playoff spot, which these two victories may have done. But these were ATL and Florida. It does not make everything all right in habs land.

     

  186. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    I’m thinking of vacationing there. Maybe some of our resident bitches would like to join. I promise not to bring them back with me…

  187. RC-51 says:

     

    As a Habs fan living in the GTA(Greater Toronto Area) I have seen this almost every year, last 30 games or so they start playing good and get close to a playoff spot ( and give their fans false hope) only to be on the outside looking in. They are the LAFFS, and always will be the LAFFS!

    I’m just glad Boston won’t get a lottery pick

     

  188. blu3chip says:

    Patrick Roy’s 4th year with Habs:

    23-12-9, 2.90 GAA, 900 save percentage, three shutouts

    Carey Price’s 4th year with Habs:

    30-21-6, 2.34 GAA, 922 save percentage, seven shutouts

     

    I honestly have no idea what meaning do these comparisons hold.

  189. rated_R says:

    goalies take the longest time to develop, he’s actually ahead comepared to a lot of elite gaoltenders at his age. Stats prove it.

  190. Propwash says:

    Apparently in Romania, if you tell the future and are wrong, you can get three months in jail.

  191. HardHabits says:

    This is where you are a first class jack-ass and idiot. I hope the Leafs make the play-offs because as a Canadian I want as many Canadian teams in the play-offs as possible.

    Nevertheless, even with the last 18 years the Habs are 10x a better run organization than the Leafs. I actually feel sorry for Leafs fans to be honest. What is it now 43 years since the last Cup appearance? And you have the audacity to come here and think you can stir sh*t.

    Only a loser would go to another team’s message boards and troll.

  192. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    This whole post is a joke, but I’ll briefly assail your Halak nonsense. If anything, evidence points to it being the SYSTEM, thats right, the SYSTEM that was as responsible as any player including Halak for last year’s success. Halak, on an average team, is just that, average. Or worse.

    Can anyone else recall that Halak was plucked at least once in ALL THREE series last year? I like the guy, not saying he was not good at all, but he was not the magician people seem to think.

  193. Bugs says:

    Just remembered I bought a tub of pralines’n'cream ice cream on special the other day.

    And some chocolate cake.

    Good a time as any, I guess.

    I’m out. (and i’m grabbin a BIG-azz bowl)

  194. JohnBellyful says:

    Boy, talk about harpin’ on a subject. Or have you got happy feet? Okay, boys, one more time…

    Zippity doo dah, zippity aye,
    My, oh my, can those Canadiens play
    Beat up the Panthers, o what a day!
    Zippity doo dah, zippity aye.

    Mister Boobird’s off my shoulder
    It’s the truth, it’s actual
    Ev’rything is satisfactual
    Zippity doo dah, zippity aye,
    Wonderful feeling, wonderful day, yes sir!

  195. jordo says:

    Price is 9th in GAA, 8th in SV%, 2nd in W, and 2nd in SO. 

  196. Jeff says:

    Gerry, you are in trouble here, most posters are clearly delusional and should not be irritated by the facts.

    The Hab fan realists are all off the HIO site now and realize that the Eastern Conference is a crap shoot.

    Don’t tell these losers the TRUTH, they can’t handle the TRUTH!

  197. Former Jets Fan says:

    Can’t say I agree, at all.  Maybe try it out in italics and see if it pops that way.

  198. Seps says:

    Yeah 7 shutouts later

  199. Former Jets Fan says:

    If you’re suggesting that in a playoff series the Leafs could make it to Game 5, yeah, I could get on board with that.  If you’re suggesting the Leafs could make a series of it with any of those teams, that’s a laff.

  200. Storm Man says:

    Mob boss or coach? as for who i will pick in the west it is not the Nucks… and the vegas odd at the start of the year was Caps 13/2 Flyers 15/1 btw. The bet is your call now.

  201. TomNickle says:

    I was born at night, but it wasn’t last night!

    The Blackhawks were in 11th place in the West on the weekend and they’re in 4th today.  Having the #1 seed out of the West isn’t nearly as reassuring as the #1 seed in the East.

    If you really are interested in doing this I would give you the top seeds in each conference against two picks from my end from both conference and do it straight up.

    Because you and I both know that you would take the Canucks if they’re available and you have it in your mind that I don’t think they can win the Cup.

    Funny you said you know I’m good for it too.  I can’t say the same.  Do you know what I do for a living?

  202. Storm Man says:

    That is why i will let you pick the first team you want from the west. Sort of like a playoff draft but with teams. If you want to base the bet on Vegas odds Im game after we make our picks from the west;).

  203. TomNickle says:

    That’s fine but you need to give me odds on a deal like that.  I’m not gonna take the Caps against the Flyers without getting odds.  I’m confident in them but I’m not gonna get my money in without the proper return for the numerical longshot I’m taking.

    If you offer odds I would strongly consider it.  The least I would take in this deal to have the Captails would be 4 to 1.  Up against the Flyers?  It would have to be at least 6 to 1 considering they’re going to have the Hurricanes, Thrashers, Leafs or Sabres fed to them in the 1st round.  Your team essentially gets a bye.

     

  204. Storm Man says:

    Borden’s are the 100 doller bill in Canada so 5 would be a 500 doller bet. Ok let’s make it fun we get one team from the East and one from the West. You have Caps from the east i will take Flyers. I will make my pick from the west if you are in.

  205. Displaced says:

    You’re right.  I thought he was making $2.5m.  We’ll probably lose him too.

    Whose leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  206. TomNickle says:

    Signing him to a one year deal and then watching him score 30-40 goals is a much bigger gamble.

     

  207. Storm Man says:

    You said the samething about Price also…. It is paying off like gold stock now. If you don’t like it i will bet on it.

  208. TomNickle says:

    First you said 5 bordens and now you’re saying 100 bills.  If you want a straight up bet on who will make the finals you need to be picking somebody else to up against my pick or you need to give me odds.

    Anything less than 6 to 1 isn’t really worth it for me either.

  209. adam76 says:

    Locking Pacioretty into anything more then a three year deal is a HUGE gamble.  

  210. Storm Man says:

    Benjamins in the states and Bordens in Canada, 100 bills bud. It’s how i roll. So are you in?

  211. TomNickle says:

    I actually think the Capitals will win the Cup but that really isn’t the point anyway.

    There is a question as to whether or not the Capitals would even want him.  Green, Carlson, Alzner, Schultz.  Markov doesn’t really fit in there.

    I do think the impending contract expirations of Eller, Subban and Price will have a big impact however.

  212. TomNickle says:

    I’ve never heard the Borden expression before.  You’ll have to clarify that.

  213. Storm Man says:

    I will put on the line 5 Borden’s that the Caps don’t come out of the East. I know you’re good for it.

  214. Storm Man says:

    No way Wiz takes 3m per year for 3 years, His agent will ask what you are on.

  215. TomNickle says:

    Pacioretty will get at least a three year deal, if not more, he may get something that runs in line with Plekanec’s contract expiration.  He could get 5 years.  Gorges will get at least three years.  I think Pouliot will get three years too but I wouldn’t be surprised if he only gets one year, Desharnais will very likely get one year.

    On Wisniewski.  This summer’s UFA market grows thin with each new extension that gets signed.  He’ll cash in somewhere.  He’s one and done, unless he takes a discount to stay.

  216. TomNickle says:

    That would depend on the odds.  I’m saying that I like them more than any other team going into the playoffs.  They were already able to play the shootout type of game and the physical game.  You add in that they’re learning how to play a tight defensive game and that translates into a nightmare for opposing teams.

  217. shiram says:

    Not sure Wiz will wanna take a pay cut, from his 3.25 millions this year, but maybe if we offer a better term.

  218. Displaced says:

    Patches, Pouliot, Gorges and DD are RFA so we now what their cap numbes can be if we don’t give them long term deals.  AK seems like a luxury item north of $3.5m… I think we’ll have to move him to make room for Price’s big deal in a couple of years.    I don’t think we have space for Markov and may have to settle for a Wiz, at $3m per year for 3 years.

    Whose leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  219. Storm Man says:

    My feeling is OV is going to have the summer to talk AM79 into playing for the Caps if they don’t win the cup this year and I don’t think the Caps will. I hope this is not the case but it does have alot of smoke behind it.

  220. TomNickle says:

    The beginning of the season doesn’t mean anything now.  For me to take the Caps against the Flyers or the field I would need odds.  So unless you’re putting that on the table I’m not in.

  221. Storm Man says:

    Care to bet some Borden’s on the Caps winning this year?

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  223. OneTimer says:

    Yeah, I don’t buy that story that the Habs get injured more often because they’re a smaller team. It’s just been terrible luck for two seasons now. What about Crosby? Malkin? Savard? Do they play for “small” teams?

  224. GrimJim says:

    If I’m remembering what I read correctly, MArkov said that his skate blade was in a rut when Staal hit him, so he couldn’t just absorb the blow. Instead the leg pivoted around the stuck blade and tore the ligament. He wasn’t hurt because Staal is bigger or the hit was nasty. Markov was literally in the wrong place at the wrong time.

  225. Habs fan in Sens land says:

    I know you’ve been asked before, but where in god’s name do you find these numbers?

    With that being said, at least the stat about the panthers winning only 28% of the time when they outshoot there opponents is a promising one for the Habs tonight (if these numbers are real, of course)… Seems like the Habs get outshot every game… 

  226. The Cat says:

    Heres the moment you all been waiting for…

    The Cat’s Tale O’ The Tape: Habs are 17-8-1 with 1 day off and 5-6-1 on Thursdays. Florida are 15-14-4 with 1 day off and 4-4-1 on thursdays…The panthers are a team that rarely win when outshooting their opponents; only 7 wins out of a possible 25 games. They’re a better 18 wins out of 32 games when outshot.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  227. Jeff says:

    OV is twittering an apology to Kessel.

    He has the class to admit Phil is better than he is at this point.

    Cammi…..u r all NUTS! 

  228. Hobie Hansen says:

    I absolutely hope we can get Markov signed to a one-year contract at a decent rate but I have a feeling another GM will know PG is hoping for that and will offer Markov a 3-year deal at 7-million a season, then what does PG do?

  229. squally10 says:

    I think they will resign Markov to a 1 year (do-over) deal. They’ll sign him to the excact same money he got this year and if he gets through without incedent, then he’ll get a long term deal.

  230. HabFanSince72 says:

    No one other than us can offer Markov anything before July 1.

     

  231. krob1000 says:

    We hold exclusive negotiating rights until July 1…but hoopefully PG and markov qill find womething fair around the 5 range.  IF Markov wants 7 then we find out soon enough to trade his negotiating rights a couple of weeks before the deadline.

  232. HabsFanInTampa says:

    What does PG then do, if another team offers Markov $7M a season? He (PG) walks away. I like Markov. But realistically he’s injury prone and how many more games does he have on those knees.  I would love to have Markov back, but at a much less salary hit.

  233. alestar says:

    If its something crazy like that, gotta let him walk. His knee is too much of a gamble for another cap-crushing contract…and we’ve been getting by without him.

    I really hope he re-signs, he’s a force when healthy (and he’s my 8 yr old son’s favorite player…), but I think the key is for Gauthier to make the first move before July 1. Markov loves Montreal, so he may take a shorter term at a lower rate to stay with the Habs.

     

    XXIV…and counting

  234. Jeff says:

    This is getting seriously interesting.  The Eastern Conference is too close to call at this point.

    Habs are in a good position but cannot go into a slump. 

    If Carey goes down, it won’t matter except against ECHL teams like the Florida Panthers.

    Don’t be delusional!  Enjoy the slight edge the Habs have at this time but with every game, the situation becomes well

    ULCER INDUCING! 

  235. Displaced says:

    Let’s be CLEARER. 

    Souray was coming off 26-38-64 with 19 PPG and 39 PPA playing 23 minutes per game entering his UFA year while Markov was 6-43-49 with 5 and 27 playing 24 minutes on the same team.  Souray is 6-4 225-ish and Markov is 6-0, about 210. 

    Souray was third in D scoring, behind Gonchar and Neidermeyer while Markov was 17th.  They were both good players that year, but Souray deserved a significant premium to Markov, based on these numbers.  $2-3m sounds about right to me.  And, since Souray didn’t sign for a discount (IMO), I would argue that we didn’t get Andrei at a discount at all.

    Whose leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  236. andrewberkshire says:

    Considering Meehan’s reputation, I guarantee he wasn’t happy at all.

  237. TomNickle says:

    He would have gotten any amount over any term that he wanted at the time.  Don Meehan probably hated his guts when he signed that deal.

  238. Bugs says:

    Offering him another lucrative contract because he “took less” before (by “less”; we mean ONLY 5.75) isn’t a good business strategy since it will have no effect on the new contract’s return on investment.

    We didn’t have to deal with Jimmy while UFA and injured. He’d proven himself to be healed BEFORE we picked’em up. While the reference to “famaged goods” in regards to Markov may be a little strong, the fact remains that we can now AFFORD to not have him with us and, coupled with the wariness his repeated injuries could instill in this new contract for big money, considering moving on without him if his demands are too high must be entertained.

  239. andrewberkshire says:

    Bugs, let’s be clear. He took 5.75 in a year where Souray got 5.4. Markov would have gone for 7+ million on the open market.

  240. ClaytonM says:

    not trying to argue for argument’s sake, but what’s an end of year all star? Do you mean an award winner, as in Norris or Hart? Or is there an even more meaningless all star game in August?  :)

  241. andrewberkshire says:

    Actually Souray DID sign at a discount because he wanted to be closer to his family in Alberta, but as long as we’re going to revise history let’s look at what you ignored shall we?

    Sheldon Souray was a -28 that year. One of the worst marks in the entire NHL. Markov was a +2 and they were defense partners. What does that tell you?

    Markov is two years younger than Souray, and was +15 the previous two years before his UFA status to Souray’s -39. Remember that during this time they were playing on the same line. It doesn’t get more glaring than this.

    Markov was considered a top 10 defenseman in the entire NHL, Souray was considered a one dimensional powerplay guy who was a pylon in his own end.

    Let’s also remember that this was a particular year where overspending by GMs was insane. Gomez and Drury were signed in 2007 to deals with cap hits over 7 million each.

    If you’re actually foolish enough to think NHL general managers believed Souray was the better player between him and Markov in 2007, I’m not sure what to say to you.

  242. Displaced says:

    Yeah and Norris voters got it wrong as well:  Souray (8th) Markov (24th).  Don’t get me wrong, I like Markov.  I just don’t think we got a discount.  We never do.

    2006-2007 Norris Trophy Voting

    Pts. 1st-2nd-3rd-4th-5th
    1. Nicklas Lidstrom, DET 1217 (87-44-5-4-2)
    2. Scott Niedermayer, ANA 1024 (46-62-22-6-2)
    3. Chris Pronger, ANA 608 (6-25-55-28-14)
    4. Dan Boyle, T.B. 219 (1-5-21-19-12)
    5. Kimmo Timonen, NSH 144 (0-2-9-24-13)
    6. Dion Phaneuf, CGY 98 (0-1-6-17-10)
    7. Sergei Gonchar, PIT 85 (1-1-6-8-14)
    8. Sheldon Souray, MTL 67 (1-0-5-7-11)
    9. Sergei Zubov, DAL 42 (0-0-4-5-7)
    10. Brian Campbell, BUF 42 (0-0-3-4-15)
    11. Jay Bouwmeester, FLA 32 (0-0-2-5-7)
    12. Philippe Boucher, DAL 27 (1-1-1-0-5)
    13. Ryan Whitney, PIT 20 (0-0-0-5-5)
    14. Brian Rafalski, N.J. 18 (0-0-1-2-7)
    15. Tom Preissing, OTT 15 (0-0-1-3-1)
    16. Lubomir Visnovsky, L.A. 12 (0-1-0-0-5)
    17. Tomas Kaberle, TOR 12 (0-0-0-3-3)
    18. Chris Phillips, OTT 7 (0-1-0-0-0)
    19. Keith Carney, MIN 5 (0-0-1-0-0)
    20. Zdeno Chara, BOS 4 (0-0-0-1-1)
    21. Mathieu Schneider, DET 3 (0-0-0-1-0)
    Robyn Regehr, CGY 3 (0-0-0-1-0)
    23. Anton Volchenkov, OTT 3 (0-0-0-0-3)
    24. Andrei Markov, MTL 1 (0-0-0-0-1)

     

    Whose leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  243. Displaced says:

    I understand your point. The only that journalist/broadcaster who comes to mind is Mike Millen – who was  a disaster with the Lions.  Lidstrom is making $7m.  Markov is steps below that.  $5m is market.  Even in an inflated year for free agents. 

    Just curious, what do you think market would be for Markov, never an all star, never a serious Norris candidate, not a team captain, rarely played a full season.  Did (at the point) lead his team in points by a D-man.  He has to come in south of Lidstrom, Nedermayer, Pronger, etc.

    Whose leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  244. Displaced says:

    Sure, IF he took a $2m discount times 4 years.  I just don’t buy it.  I think he got market or damn close to it.  I think most GMs would have put Lidstrom, Niedermayer, Pronger, and others a notch or two above Markov at the time.  He was not a captain, he didn’t lead the PP, he’s not overly physical, he’s not a serious Norris candidate, never an All Star, rarely played a full season.  The others were in the $7m range.  Only a Sather-esque deal for Gomez was going to get this guy into the $7m range.  I doubt Meehan could find it and Markov wanted to stay, so you get a market deal in his preferred city. 

    BTW – can you find anything outside of a Montreal source that suggested he got a home town discount?

    Whose leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  245. Displaced says:

    Sorry, I should have been specific, end of year All Star. 

    Whose leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  246. ClaytonM says:

    Honours and Awards

     

    2008-09

    Named to play in the NHL All-Star Game

     

    2007-08

    Named to play in the NHL All-Star Game

     

  247. Bugs says:

    So what?

    Still has no bearing on what he’ll do for us with a new contract.

  248. Displaced says:

    Hey SF, I get your point.  But really, there’s nothing out there prior to his signing that suggested he would get as much as he did.  I did a quick search and the only credible source I could find was, http://www.thefourthperiod.com/topfas.html — they expected him to get $5m.  A few bloggers thought $4m and Gainey offered him $12m for 3 years in 2006.

     Whose leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  249. andrewberkshire says:

    And when players take hometown discounts agents get ripped into by the NHLPA. Not to mention that 15% of 4 years @ 5.75M = 3.5M total. 15% of 4 years at 7.5M (Chara salary) = 4.5M. That’s a million dollars Meehan missed out on and he got ripped into by his peers and the NHLPA for setting a bad precedent. You think he was happy? Dream on.

  250. SeriousFan09 says:

    Just proving that some people think the Norris trophy is decided on offensive stats, it would explain how Mike Green was Top-3 for the Norris in the previous two seasons.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  251. andrewberkshire says:

    And Mike Green was nominated for the Norris the last two years. What’s your point? That Souray was overrated by hockey writers? How many journalists have become NHL GMs? Please, enlighten me.

  252. Displaced says:

    Meehan got 15% of $5m+, he was happy.  His client stayed in the city he liked and got a market deal.  He was happy.

    Whose leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  253. rated_R says:

    Didnt Eklund have the leafs winning the division?

  254. habstrinifan says:

    I think HABS are safely in a playoff position and should finish ahead of either of those teams. But if any team is gonna beat those teams it is the Leafs. It galls me to say this but I think the Leafs will make the playoff to the exclusion Rangers and may catch Carolina and Buffalo, although Buffalo has games in hand. I am glad I no longer live in Toronto.. I couldnt stomach Leafs success. However they are 6-3-1 in their last 10 and (without checking back) it seems to me they have played tougher teams than we have. Horrible to contemplate but it is reality.

  255. savethepuck says:

    They will both pass New York but no fickin way they pass us.

  256. savethepuck says:

    They will both pass New York but no fickin way they pass us.

  257. HardHabits says:

    For a second there I thought you said McGuire. But Eklund? Eklund doesn’t know sh*t about f*ck all.

  258. samTHEman says:

    Eklund has Buffalo and Carolina ahead of us in the Conference at the end of the season. What a tool

  259. Jonson says:

    to bring up a topic from earlier today

    who would you take right now…………kessel or cammy?

  260. Sportfan says:

    Hands down Cammi Kessel is a loser in my eyes i was happy to see him last in the all star game annoyed he got the car. Cammy 4 life over that loser

  261. LA Loyalist says:

    Oh you are just a ton o’ fun.

    I didn’t realize Kessel was only 23, but probably I’d stick with Cammi. I like his edge when he’s on. Why can’t we trade Gomez to Leafs for Kessel, straight up and we’ll throw in a Via Rail pass.

  262. db says:

    Personality wise, Cammy hands down.  Locker room wise, Cammy.  Hockey wise, Cammy wins again imo. 

  263. savethepuck says:

    I had the 3 stars as:

    1. Carey

    2. AK

    3. Eller ( not DD )

    Guess the fans don’t have the love on for the kid yet

  264. RC-51 says:

    Liking the play of Eller, big Tits, Moen 

    #81 looking more comfy playing his natural position

  265. Storm Man says:

    Why would you want to rush them back… Get ready fo next year.

  266. AndyHabs says:

    any chance markov or gorges return during playoffs??

     

    Mtl 514 Go habs!!!!

  267. TomNickle says:

    The only problem here is that Don Meehan will likely look for something beyond a one year deal.  With Price, Eller and Subban in line for contract extensions in the off-season following this upcoming one, getting a deal done with Markov will be difficult.

    Pacioretty, Pouliot, Desharnais, Kostitsyn, Gorges, Gill and possibly a player like Wisniewski are all in for extensions too, depending on who Pierre Gauthier wants to keep.

    The only money coming off the books in the off-season following this one is Price’s current deal, Spacek, Moen and Eller and Subban’s rookie deals.

    Having coin going forward will be priority number one.

     

  268. HabFanSince72 says:

    I believe Markov will be back with the Habs. Gauthier will offer him a fair market-value contract and he will sign it.

    Other teams will not have the option of out-bidding us as we have exclusive negotiating rights prior to July 1.

     

     

  269. SLYDER says:

    Markov is far and away my favorite player in the league

     

    i have his jersey signed by Henri Richard

     

    and i truly believe he wants to stay in Mtl for the remainder of his career – and i think if he is healthy in the next few seasons we can win a cup with him here

     

    so it is really up to him to take the home town discount (if gomez was moved at the deadline PG would have the luxury to give him the money other GMs will offer him in the off-season)

  270. acerider8 says:

    The development of Subban has given PG the luxury of allowing Markov to walk. Now, with that said, I say we still try like hell to get him signed to a 1 year deal somwhere in the 5-5.5 mill range.

  271. SLYDER says:

    if you count Gomez on your list thats 8 producers

     

    how many teams have that many?????

     

    Cammy has been producing since he came back from injury

     

    Gionta has 23 on the season and Pleks has 20 (isnt that 5 straight seasons with 20 goals?)

     

    Max-Pac has been our best forward since he was called up and he is producing on a consisten basis

     

    DD and Benny are 3rd liners

     

    Why are you so disappointed and what are you expecting exactly?

     

    So yes, I have to agree – I also hope Eller starts contributing on the score sheet and finds some solid magic with AK. That would go a long way to giving us a shred of scoring depth for a playoff run

  272. marshx says:

    Cammy and Gio won’t have playoff scoring issues. AK been playing better of late, he needs to keep going. 

  273. Bugs says:

    Ridiculous.

    The difference between Almost Winning and Winning in the playoffs won’t be Eller’s play, I’m afraid.

    It’ll be the producers already mentioned, however they are playing now.

    Therefore, “hoping” Eller gets some confidence heading into the playoffs is like hoping the Gatorade is nice and cool on the bench. Sure, it’ll help, but it won’t be the difference in the game.

  274. SeriousFan09 says:

    If I was JM and the Habs were keeping him, I’d send him dump truck of pucks and a net for practice this summer. Anyone with a wrist shot that good should be perfecting it, he seems to ignore it.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  275. HardHabits says:

    He could be a 35-40 goal scorer if he played up to his ability and that is what’s frustrating about him. He doesn’t play up to his ability on a consistent basis.

  276. Beaco says:

    Jeez! That read like a high school newspaper article. Embarassingly bad.

  277. smiler2729 says:

    The chowderheads absolutely loathe anything to do with the Montreal Canadiens because they know that their Bruins are our bitches.

  278. spos080808 says:

    Idiot writer Steven Harris of the Boston Herald is back to being his idiotic self.

    http://bostonherald.com/sports/hockey/bruins/view/20110304little_milan_lucic_goes_long_way/srvc=home&position=also

    Talks about diving, fake injuries and says “At times it looked like they were playing the Montreal Canadiens”…

    This guy is the biggest hack writer in the country when it comes to hockey!

    But ofcourse he does not go off on Lucic’s blantant cheap shot when he targeted the head of a TB player with his STICK. Ofcourse not.

    Hack!

  279. Nahlsy says:

    They’re fondling themselves over Lcuy trying to jump nonfighters at the end of their shifts while Horton sits on them and Thornton’s recent decision to only fight out of his weight class by jumping Hamrlik and Kubina recently. They’re TUFF!!

  280. Bugs says:

    Harsh.

    What’s the bottomline? Contract offered or no? Spit it out, Felix; how much, how long?

  281. The Cat says:

    The habs havent typically been fair to players who gave them everything. I dont see why theyd be fair with Markov who is damaged goods and has done little for the organization.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  282. habs03 says:

    Has done little in what sense? He took less money when he was a UFA 4 years ago to resign here and took a shorter contact than would other teams would have given him on the open market. Also damaged good? 2 ACL injuires mean demaged good? So Wiz who is 26 years old has already had 3 ACL injuries on the same knee, still think he is demaged goods?

  283. MontrealAtheist says:

    Avoid the Bruins? Are you kidding? I wouldn’t want us playing against anybody else in the 1st round (although it would be nice to have home advantage). Keep in mind that even though the Bruins are kicking everyone else’s ass these days we still hold a 3-1 edge over them this season and besides there is no greater way to start the play-offs than eliminating the Bruins, is there?

  284. BJ says:

    Great to pick up another two points. Ii would be nice if the team could finish 4th or 5th. The way Boston handled the Bolts last night made me realize that the only two teams I would like to avoid playing are Boston and Philly. Anyone else we have a decent chance against. It will be interesting to see how we measure up on Tuesday. We don’t have the muscle but hopefully we have the PP.

    In the first round who would give the most problems to 1) Philadelphia 2) Boston, that are qualified or trying to qualify?

  285. Nahlsy says:

    Habs have won 8 of their last 10 games vs the Bruins over the past two years. I don’t see any reason to want to avoid them, they’re Montreal’s private whipping boys, especially in the playoffs and more importantly THEY know it. They’ll lose one game and fold their tents thinking, ‘Here we go again’. Look at the times they waltzed in in the previous decade as the number 1 or 2 seed and got bounced right away by the Habs and Theodore for example.

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  287. Beaco says:

    4-0 shutout but this team is in critical condition. It needs serious help. I’m talking tigerblood warlock kind of help. JM must go. We need a frickin’ rock star from mars behind the bench. PG wake up. The answer is out there and in need of work. Charlie Sheen, baby. Next coach of the montreal Canadiens.

     

  288. observer says:

    NOW … not before but NOW Lars Eller is playing great, confidant hockey and currently may be the most under-rated player on the entire Habs team?

  289. LA Loyalist says:

    No one is saying he’s not skilled and physically capable, he is, that’s why he is frustrating. Like Kovalev lite. If he plays like this more steadily than keep him forever, that’s all we want, play your best, with fire.

     

  290. Don Carnage says:

    Kosty 5 points in last 4 games two game winners and the leader in hits for the forwards as many points as Gionta

     

    easy to be blind to facts

  291. Bugs says:

    Eller???

    How ’bout Cammalleri and Gionta instead, AK and Plecky, Pac-Man, Dezzy and Poolio, you know, the ACTUAL producers? We should be hopin THEY put more pucks in the net to boost their confidence for the playoffs, no?

    If we have to count on Eller to score goals in the playoffs, not only are we dealing in beads but we’re in worse overall shape than previously thought…

  292. AndyHabs says:

    I really hope eller can put some pucks in the net before the playoffs start boost his confidence!!!

     

    Mtl 514 Go habs!!!!

  293. HUDSONHAB says:

    Well there’s the problem right there. The Habs can get bullied and knocked around (legally or not) and the refs won’t call anthing because the Habs are just too small and a bigger player would not have gone down like that.

    That’s how the refs see it. And at the sme time if a Habs player puts his stick on a player with it paralell to the ice, he is gone. Tell me how that is going to correct itself before the playoffs start.

    ….Hab4life….

  294. Hobie Hansen says:

    That bump Markov took to the side/back of the knee from Staal didn’t look overly powerful.

    All I kept saying to myself last night was how much better out team would be with him in the lineup. Instead of being two or three players away from being an elite team, we’d be maybe one more addition away with a healthy Markov.

    And in terms of getting pushed around by the Flyers and Bruins, with Markov in the lineup we could easily pick them apart on the PP instead of worrying about answering back with more goonery. In saying that, I still would like our team to be a little bigger/tougher.

     

  295. StevieRay says:

    We are a much better team with him . Is he worth 7 million/year …before yes ..now probably not but like I said we’re a much better team with him in the lineup .

  296. Mikey_39 says:

    Gomez was never worth 7 million dollars.  Not then, not now.  You’re right though, we are a better team with him in the line up.  However, we live in a salary cap world, and fans can’t help but judge him based on his contract.  He takes up about 1/8 of our cap space!

  297. HUDSONHAB says:

    I think the ball is in Markov’s court. He has to be willing to sign for less and play a full season if he wants a raise

    They say that you don’t really get back to close to 100% for a full year.

    Is Wiz or someone else as good as Markov even if he is still recouping for a year???

    ….Hab4life….

  298. StevieRay says:

    Mikey ..I was referring to Markov … but I endorse your 1st sentence

  299. ClaytonM says:

    Geez, the Gomez hate is getting out of hand  lol

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  303. Don Carnage says:

    Kosty goal and an assist all ready tonight

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  305. Jonson says:

    i sure hope gomez didnt score that goal

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