Game 63: Canadiens blanked on Gainey Night

Updated 10:40 pm with audio

Canadiens goalie Carey Price and defenceman Josh Gorges team up to stop Columbus forward Rick Nash.
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Canadiens legend Bob Gainey laced up his skates, pulled on a bleu-blanc-rouge jersey and turned a solo lap of Bell Centre ice tonight before a moving ceremony to retire the No. 23 he wore during an illustrious, Hall of Fame career.

Sadly, Gainey left the ice surface a half-hour before his team’s game began against Columbus and he didn’t return.

The ceremony honouring the Canadiens’ current general manager clearly was the night’s highlight, eclipsing the effort of the Habs in a 3-0 loss to the visiting Blue Jackets.

It was Montreal’s second consecutive defeat following a four-game winning streak.

By midway through the third period, disgrunted fans in the cheap(er) seats were hollering that they wanted Marian Hossa, the coveted sniper from Atlanta rumoured ad nauseum to be bound for the Canadiens before Tuesday’s NHL trading deadline. They’ll get him that night, if only because the Thrashers will then be in town to close out Montreal’s four-game homestand.

The Blue Jackets got on the scoreboard at 6:24, with Canadiens’ Tom Kostopoulos and Columbus’ Jared Boll serving fighting majors. Rick Nash, having slipped in behind defenceman Mike Komisarek, converted a sharp cross-ice pass from Mike Peca to beat Habs goalie Carey Price with his 33rd of the season.

Andrew Murray then made it 2-0 at 10:01 on a very stoppable shot, beating Price with an unscreened wrist shot from 20 feet.

The Canadiens enjoyed an 11-6 edge in first-period shots, but Blue Jackets goalie Pascale Leclaire was equal to anything thrown his way.

With a commanding lead in shots, 20-9 through 11:17 of the second period, the Canadiens went on a 5-on-3 for 1:10, but still couldn’t crack Leclaire. But then, they had just one shot through that 70 seconds.

Montreal outshot Columbus 12-8 in the second for a 40-minute 23-14 edge.

Columbus added their third when Manny Malhotra stripped Maxim Lapierre of the puck inside the Montreal blue line and went in to deke Price at 16:42.

At least a few of this city’s linguistically motivated fans wanted a mulligan on their cheers for head coach Guy Carbonneau, who enjoyed a rousing ovation when introduced during the Gainey ceremony.

Carbonneau didn’t dress forward Guillaume Latendresse, the third time he’s been a healthy scratch this season; forward Mathieu Dandenault, his seventh; and defenceman Patrice Brisebois, his 19th and fifth game in a row.


  1. linp says:

    I like what Boone said: “limit your intake of salt, suger and Glenn Healy”, “Are you Dumber Than Mike Milbury?”

  2. mjames says:

    I agree with you if that is what Hickey meant. He may have meant that fans should not worry because Higgins is not on the list to be traded. The list appearing in Hickey’s article had all our defense prospects. I would be careful. Also regarding these trades I am dead set against rentals. Gainey must have some assurance that Houssa would sign an extension. I really would not want to see Sundin here as he will only run back to TO after the year . In the case of Tanguay he does not want to play here, plus he brings nothing . He is a play maker . We have that in Koivu.


  3. nightmare_49 says:

    How the teams are doing in the year 2008. Plus a few more interesting stats.

  4. JF says:

    Hossa turned down $7 million from Atlanta. He would want a lot more – I heard between $8 and $9 million – to play here because of taxes and everything.

  5. JF says:

    I agree that it’s far too soon to give up on Chris Higgins. But Bob Gainey, while he didn’t say anything direct in his press conference yesterday, did imply that he wouldn’t give up any core players in a trade. He’s looking for someone, but only if that someone can be acquired at a price that he doesn’t find too high. He mentioned our depth in prospects and younger players in Hamilton and elsewhere. I think he realized he gave up too soon on Ribeiro. Besides, can you see him agreeing to pay Hossa between 8 and 9 million, which is what he would demand to play in Montreal? That would be just about twice what the highest-paid player on the team earns now.

  6. G-Man says:

    You got it. Injuries can pile up on a team, especially after a long Calder Cup run like last spring, so insurance is a good thing.


  7. G-Man says:

    Pat Hickey mentioned in his article this morning the following: “Fans shouldn’t fret over losing Christopher Higgins.” He’s got to be kidding, right? Almost everyone agrees he’s not having a great year. He still has 19G + 18A for 37 points and is +3. We all have great expectations for him, but he does look snake bit this season. Trading him away as he reaches his prime would be too high a price to pay for the likes of the Invisible Hossa, the WAY overpaid Brad Richards, and too soft Tanguay. Trading him to Laffland for Sundin would be equally stupid.
    Chris Higgins can be the impact player we’re waiting for so let’s be patient with him.
    It’s going to be great to watch #23 rise up tonight.


  8. Blitzen says:

    So it’s basically the buffer for Hamilton?
    Remember February 19th: The Comeback

  9. G-Man says:

    It’s more an affiliation with the team for players who need extra time in the minors. Hamilton is crowded right now, that’s why the move for Olivier Latendresse to Cincinnati. By Tuesday, Hamilton will probably not be so crowded. (With luck, neither will Montreal.)


  10. linp says:

    With Strait and Ryder playing so effectively the past few games, Montreal may want to keep Ryder for the playoff. Name change please!

  11. linp says:

    You are very good with numbers. I am still hoping that we can get one day players like Ovechkin or Lecavalier in Montreal uniform. That would be exciting.

  12. Blitzen says:

    OK…totally unrelated question:

    If the ECHL is sooooooooo inferior to other leagues that players there have almost no shot at the NHL, why do NHL teams still support teams in that league? I admit that I don’t know much about ECHL caliber leagues. The Cyclones are doing real well but, really, what’s the point for the Habs? I guess salaries there must be real low so the investment may be worth it just in case another Ryder comes along?
    Remember February 19th: The Comeback

  13. TradeRyder says:

    I’d hate to see us trade for Richards. The only impact he’s sure to have is on our cap space. Theodore also had one good year, but I don’t want him either.

    Hossa would be a smart trade – a dangerous winger with 30 or more goals every NHL year since 2001-2002, he had 43 last year and in a soft year for his team is on pace for 35.
    On Tuesday I will change my name. Any Suggestions?
    – SitSlowinski?
    – 4thRoundorBust?

  14. TradeRyder says:

    Yeah and Theodore is a Vezina winner. You want him back?

    Let the kids play… let the non-performers watch or walk.

  15. TradeRyder says:

    So who are we giving up in this trade? Smolinski and Breezer?
    Let the kids play… let the non-performers watch or walk.

  16. cautiousoptimist says:

    Incidentally, tell me you don’t like this picture:

    Higgins – Koivu – Hossa
    Andrei K – Plekanec – Kovalev
    Latendresse – Grabovski – Sergei K
    Begin – Chipchura – Lapierre

    Markov – Komi
    Hamrlik – O’Byrne
    Bouillon – Gorges


    With $6.25M for free agents and other goodies!

  17. cautiousoptimist says:

    If we do ever want to have a marquee Hossa-like player in Montreal, we’re going to have to be prepared to pay the going rate. The folks on here who lust after Lecavalier, Jokinen et al have to face that same fact. So far, Gainey’s approach has been to put together a team of good and very good players across the board, rather than one fantastic line and a bunch of filler that he picked out of the bargain bin. I think his approach is a good one.

    But we have $4M in cap space, and Ryder’s $3M won’t be here next year. That’s Hossa’s $7M right there.

    Plus, Smolinski’s $2M isn’t coming back either, and neither is Brisebois’s $700k. I can’t imagine that Dandy ($1.8) will stick around either – he’s making way too much to sit in the press box. And we won’t be paying for the buyouts and waivers for Salmalainen, Garth Murray, and Cullimore – that’s another $1M right there. So that leaves $5.5M in raises for Streit, Lapierre, Gorges, O’Byrne, Halak, and – the only expensive one – Andrei. Subtract maybe $2M for calling up Grabovski, Chipchura and Halak, and we’re still sitting pretty at $3.5M

    As well, Huet may use his UFA status to head to a team where he’ll be the #1 guy he deserves to be. If he does, his $2.75M go with him, giving us $6.25M in space – after signing Hossa. With a team as good as ours, that’s a wet dream for most GMs.

    We’re in great cap shape here, with an owner who’s willing to spend some cash. Why not go after a big name?

  18. NightRyder says:

    When did he become good defensively? -55 career. We cannot throw the salary structure out of whack for a second-line centre. He’d be making twice as much as our captain (Koivu) and best player (Kovalev). I’d rather have Tanguay for $3M less.

  19. nightmare_49 says:

    Kj – You forgot Ryder and Streit.

  20. PGHABS says:

    i like the idea of gratton as well

  21. NightRyder says:

    Just say no to Richards. He’s only averaged a point per game once in his career. Not close to being worth $8M.

  22. nightmare_49 says:

    Huet is a UFA who probably wants a big long term contract and Tampa needs a goalie. I like Huet , much more than you , but i hate to pay him big bucks to be a part time goalie and this way we get something for him in an impact player and a possible big shutdown center and a goalie with NHL experience if things don’t work out for the young guys.

  23. ViveKovalev says:

    Bedtime thinker..? I can’t even get to sleep thinking about how horrible that trade would be.

  24. wild flower says:

    Crew on Sportsnet commented on how difficult the Habs would be to stop with another scoring line: Higgins Koivu Hossa. They were making the point that Hossahe is a good guy with no chemistry issues to worry about and that past poor playoff performance was not likely an indicator of the future. Also from TSN:

    The Ottawa Senators won’t know until Monday how seriously Chris Neil’s right knee is injured, but it doesn’t sound good. Coach John Paddock said Friday that an evaluation of the injury can’t be made until the swelling goes down. Neil was not at the rink on Friday.
    Daniel Alfredsson was not on the ice on Friday, he got a day off to rest.
    Paddock has not named his starting goaltender for Saturday’s game with the Penguins. He said he will tell the goalies his decision on Friday night.
    There is talk the Sens’ top line is being split up but it is not clear what the new line combinations will be.

  25. nightmare_49 says:

    It’s about the same salary as Hossa and if you get Hossa you’ll want to sign him and that would probably cost you more than Richards whose under contract for 3 more years at the same rate. Kovy’s salary reflects the many bad years he’s had and he knows it. No matter what impact player we get the salary will be more than Kovy’s salary. Tampa Bay wants to sign Dan Boyle and he wants big bucks and a long contract and in a year Vinnie will be getting bigger bucks also so the Lightning have to free up some money and not many teams will be in the bidding for Richard’s long contract but we can handle it. Say we sign Huet for next year , his new salary with Dandy’s salary won’t be far away from Richards. Conn Smythe Trophy winner and a Stanley Cup ring and is versatile , Hossa doesn’t have that on his CV.

  26. wild flower says:

    from TSN:

    Carey Price will start Saturday against the Columbus Blue Jackets. Steve Begin (groin) will be a game time decision.

  27. jimbo says:

    last chance to prove your worth before the deadline.Should be a good game

  28. Habifax says:

    Sorry can’t agree on Mats. Just doesn’t make the grade for me.

  29. Habifax says:

    It would be fitting that Georges Vezina is up there. They didn’t retire Plante’s until 1995 so maybe there is still hope for Georges.

  30. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Mats Naslund…

  31. Xtrahabsfan says:

    In the last game against the Pens,I just caught the fight with Lapierre ,kid can fight eh!thought so!

  32. Chuck says:

    I’d vote for Patrick Roy, but as for the current crop of players, I think that only Saku could even be close to being considerd a contender… if he wins a Cup. Give Price a few years. 😉

    One name that I’ve always wanted to see up there is Georges Vezina. The greatest goaltender of his era, he played in every game from 1910-1926. Even with the NHL trophy named after him, he still slips people’s minds and I can’t believe that he’s been overlooked this long. Even thumbing through the Canadien’s press guide, you rarely see mention of him due to the fact that the team records listed only date back to the formation of the NHL back in 1917. The original #1, he deserves to share a place of honour next to Jacques Plante.

    By the way, I also find it hard to believe that the Habs virtually ignore the statistical history of the team from 1909-1916 in their own media guide and on their own website. I understand that those stats are probably supplied buy the NHL head office and are cut/pasted into those publications (and the website template is probably only formatted to go back to 1917 anyway) but especially considering next years’ centennial you’d thing that they make the extra effort to represent the full history of the team.

    (rant off)

    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  33. Y says:

    LMAO Holmqvist an upgrade over Huet?

    Find a new source for your weed

  34. Wencz says:

    Richards is a Conn Smythe winner, I think that’s something important to consider. Remember how deadly he was that year. I think a change of scenery might be able to revitalize him, and there is no question that he comes to work every night. I don’t think that his contract should scare anyone (it’s probably in the area of what the others would command). He brings more than just points to the table.

  35. Rastaman says:

    If Carbo could get a cup as a coach, he may have a shot.

  36. Habifax says:

    hahahah good one. Maybe we should have a hall of shame for some of the worst players.

  37. Habifax says:

    Yeah you could be right but the lack of team success will hurt him.

  38. gmd says:

    I think Saku’s number could be retired without winning the Conn. In 711 regular season games he has 580 points. 43 playoff games with 36 points. Has been with the team since 1995-96, Captain since 1999, and has done much for the Montreal community.

  39. dicktracy says:

    ya i think roy is a for sure…. but they will make him wait till he is so old he won’t remember his own name

  40. Habifax says:

    Wouldn’t want to see Richards brought in with that Salary. What would Kovy do
    with Richards making so much more than him. I worry about that.

  41. Habifax says:

    Good point players will not be with the team as long with free agency.

    Sakiu would have to win a Conn Symthe to be considered, I think.

    I looked at the 86 and 93 teams and I only see Roy who I would say is a for sure, if they can see past the way he left.

  42. mbplekfan says:

    wtf are you smoking?

    please dont post stupid pipe dreams.

  43. dicktracy says:

    i don’t know…how many of the guys that have their sweaters up there do think would have been obvious hall of famers after their first-second seasons…maybe we will have a better guess after the playoffs…can we keep anyone around long enuf with the way the nhl is now. if saku won the conne smythe?

  44. nightmare_49 says:

    Bedtime thinker – Cristobal Huet (G) , Mathieu Dandenault (D/W) , Mikhail Grabovski (C) and the rights to Alexander Perezhogin (W) to Tampa Bay for Brad Richards (C/W) Chris Gratton (C/W) and Johan Holmqvist (G).

  45. Samantha says:

    I don’t think it’s conditioning he needs, more like a good old fashioned ass kicking. He’s an average player at best who never paid his dues. Send him down and keep him there

  46. Proudones says:

    He needs a couple of years there. I doubt you could call that a conditioning stint.

  47. HABZ 24 says:

    send latandresse down to the farm for a conditioning confidence stint, hes been doing bugger all last 12 games or smolinski insted.

  48. nightmare_49 says:

    That makes sense and i didn’t know they mentioned a defenceman. I hate to lose Streit but Richards plays the point on PP and then all we have to get is a cheap big veteran “D” man as insurance , better than your buddy , sounds great. There’s also the rights to Emelin. Bob will work it out.

  49. Shiloh says:

    I would take them in this order – Sundin, Hossa, Jokinen, Tanguay. Tanguay could be a real sleeper though.

  50. Girth says:

    There is no accounting for what some people will say…

    Hey … I suppose the Gazette is in violation as well.

    I want my Gazette in french!


  51. showey47 says:

    A) jokinen, still under contract at just over 5 million and the big goal scoring center we lack. The asking price will be steep.

    B) hossa, a scoring winger with size and plays a very good 2 way game. Can play powerplay and penalty kill. Will easily give us a lethal second line

    C) Richards, Can play center, wing and point on the powerplay so versitility makes him an attractive asset. Former conn smyth winner and still only 27 years old. His salary at 7.8 million may seem like alot but will be less than the 2 mentioned above when ufa status comes calling to them.

    D) Tanguay, Reports say he won’t waive his ntc to play here but can be traded for then shipped off somewhere else. So essentially this guy can be the key for us to land either A or B

    E) Sundin, actually i don’t even want him because he won’t resign and it would be stupid for us to help restock a teams farm system for a player would play for us for a couple of months. He obviously has the size we need and can dominate a game, but where will his heart be in the playoffs? With us or with the blue and white.

  52. nightmare_49 says:

    Exactly but Tampa still needs a #1 goalie and that may be a stumbling block but maybe Bob could use (player to be named later) as Huet is sure to be pursued by Tampa if he’s a UFA. I just heard on CBC Radio (hockey rumours) that Tampa are not interested in signing Chris Gratton UFA.

  53. showey47 says:

    Would you offer huet,streit,dandenalt and maybe a prospect/draftpick for richards and gratton? Huet and streit are ufa’s but tampa would have negotiating rights till july 1st. Tampa also stated they wanted defencmen so they are essentially getting 2 who also play forward.

  54. Shiloh says:

    Yeah – waaay less expensive to get but how many years left at 8 million a year? Richards is too expensive against the cap. If he’s all we can get then take a pass on him. Maybe next year there will be somebody around worth that kind of money – a real impact player that will put us over the top.

    Jokinen and Sundin are far less expensive as is Tanguay. I’d rather have any one of those three – even Sundin as a rental – than commit that kind of money to Richards.

  55. Shiloh says:

    Agreed – we aren’t doing him any good by playing him 8 or 9 minutes on the 4th line and his play doesn’t deserve any more than that. Give the kid a chance to develop his game and make room for someone like Grabovski.

  56. TradeRyder says:

    Play Youppi instead! Anyone but Slowinski
    On Tuesday I will change my name. Any Suggestions?
    – SitSlowinski?
    – 4thRoundorBust?

  57. TradeRyder says:

    Why do I have the feeling he won’t get sent down? While Grabovski lights it up and Chipchura “works on his game” (which didn’t need it).

    Sometimes it sucks to be in Montreal – where language politics get into everything.

    On Tuesday I will change my name. Any Suggestions?
    – SitSlowinski?
    – 4thRoundorBust?

  58. planet habs says:

    I think Jokinen is going to SJ. why? because they’re offering Marleau and Carle, just what Florida will need to replace their center. And don’t be surprised if Sundin is NOT traded. As far as the habs are concerned, a player like Gratton would help. he’s a big strong center, who can win faceoffs and score some goals. I also think, that unless Tanguay waives his no trade contract, we’re not getting him. Besides, he already said he didn’t want to play in Montreal! Brad Richards for Huet and Ryder? maybe.

  59. Samantha says:

    I think this is the goalie we need this year:

    Trade huet for this guy! (I’m a big Huey fan so I’m just kidding)

  60. 24 Cups says:

    CO – Next year isn’t the (cap) problem for Montreal – it’s the year after when we hit the financial wall. Any moves we make now (or during the summer) have to be based on a three year budget, not a one year cap hit.

    The Original 24 Cups

  61. 24 Cups says:

    I realize that the home team usually doesn’t play well after a long pre-game celebration but surely the Habs’ players will pull out all the stops to win this game for Bob Gainey. Failure to do so tonight is totally unacceptable.

    Columbus has been playing better lately and we all know they are desperate to make the playoffs. But still. This is their 5th road game in a row, we are on home ice, and we are well rested after playing a half hearted game against Pittsburgh. I’m sure Columbus will come out flying but our speed should wear them down as the game goes on and they eventually start to tire. Komi can redeem himself by handing out some early big hits on Nash and Zherdev so they lose their starch early in the game. Make Adam Foote skate and handle the puck as much as possible – he must be starting to breakdown by now. A win tonight means we have a 9 point cushion on the 8th playoff spot.

    The Original 24 Cups

  62. G-Man says:

    Guaranteed. Think of him as the Dino Ciccarelli, Martin St. Louis type. He’s not tall, but he’s built like a fire hydrant, and yes, he is faster on his skates than his younger brother. Might be exactly the kind of push that Gui needs, sort of like what AK46 started doing after SK74 arrived in town.


  63. Blitzen says:

    Then why did we get him for Urquart…i.e. for free?
    Remember February 19th: The Comeback

  64. G-Man says:

    He’s like Begin. He’ll go through the wall for the CH. It’s in his blood. One of my colleagues at work coached him for 2 seasons in midget and knows his character. We MAY see him in September at the big camp.


  65. G-Man says:

    I am French Canadian and these boobs give us all the name of “ignorant racist.” They ought to be ashamed of themselves, bringing their stupid “issue” into the pro sports arena. The fact they even had a show based on the premise shows exactly the kind of s**t disturbing ass****s that are running the local media in Montreal. ‘Nuff said.


  66. TradeRyder says:

    Question for y’all: If Bob was to make a trade, who would you prefer to land:

    a. Sundin
    b. Hossa
    c. Tanguay
    d. Jokinen

    My vote goes to Hossa.

    On Tuesday I will change my name. Any Suggestions?
    – SitSlowinski?
    – 4thRoundorBust?

  67. showey47 says:

    Reading all the talk about the pro’s and con’s about going after Richards from tampa. His numbers have dropped and his plus minus is bad not to mention his salary. But he also doesn’t play on the first line with vinny and marty anymore, prospal plays there. Richards now plays second line center on a team with no second line type wingers, brutal defence and no goaltending. I think Richards playing wing with a good center like koivu and whoever else maybe higgins or ryder would be a very good line. Given the choice i would rather have hossa though, but he would be a good alternative.

    Also a conn smythe winner, you don’t win that by accident and still 27 years old. On a good team his best years could be ahead of him.

  68. nightmare_49 says:

    The Blue Jackets have had some fine defensive games this season and have shut down many good teams as told by the number of shutouts they have posted so i expect a close checking game. Good move to dump it into Foote’s corner as he has slowed down quiet a bit and when he gets frustrated he takes bad penalties but their trying to sign him for a couple of more seasons and they haven’t even talked to Hainey’s agent yet as they are both UFAs.

  69. Blitzen says:

    I’m French Canadian too and that show sucked. The best line came at the very end from Dion: “When Koivu scored the winning goal in last Tuesday’s historic comeback, I don’t think too many fans at the Bell were thinking how mad they were that he couldn’t speak French”. Priceless.
    Remember February 19th: The Comeback

  70. Blitzen says:

    I’d rather have Hossa but there’s no doubt that Richards would be waaaaaaaaaaay less expensive. They’re just trying to get rid of him right now.
    Remember February 19th: The Comeback

  71. Blitzen says:

    Well that’ll be nice if it happens.
    Remember February 19th: The Comeback

  72. Habifax says:

    If he plays like he did as the Conn Smythe winner then yes. But that is a big if…

  73. Habifax says:

    Hail to Bob Gainey. If he was 25 years younger he would be perfect for this team as a player. Pure Class in the tradition of number 4.

    Thanks Bob, it has been a pleasure to watch you and your great team mates do what you did. Tomorrow your sweater takes it’s rightful place for eternity.

  74. Habifax says:

    Who among the current team has a chance to have their sweater raised to the rafters of Bell Center? I’m not sure if anyone is worthy or capable.

    So much to achieve to be compared to the greats up there already.

    Also who is left that you think should be up there. Patrick Roy comes to mind
    as a for sure but who else?

  75. Shiloh says:

    Noting that Latendresse is a minor-league calibre player is not negative – it is a correct observation. I am a very positive Habs fan and I would love to see someone talented like Chipchura or Grabovski up with the big club. I would also like to see if Latendresse can learn the game. If he goes down to Hamilton and acquires some skills then he will help us in the future – but right now he sticks out like a sore thumb. He is not being helped by ankling around out there on the 4th line.

  76. Shiloh says:

    No – what’s pathetic is you getting in to the psychoanalytic business. Where’d you get your degree – a Cracker-Jack box? Look – I don’t want to disappoint you but I am a well-adjusted, happy person. I have played and enjoyed hockey fpr about 55 years. Latendresse is one of the least talented players I have ever seen on the Canadiens. When you factor in the shock that he has NEVER played in the minors, then you have to ask why. And no – I have no idea why.

  77. MNaslund26 says:

    joe thornton was also a minor league calibre player when he was 20. give him time to progress and improve. i agree he can do that with the bulldogs but i think that maybe these players should be treated like people and not like our own personal slaves. Latendresse is 20 years old. a baby. there is obviously a lack of experience but he will do just fine once he learns the ropes. I am a HUGE habs fan but i hate when people crap all over individual players to compensate for their own insecurities. its kind of pathetic, no?

  78. Mr.Hazard says:

    Time to kill.

    Ex nihilo nihil fit

  79. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    he is strong on the puck in the corners…and has a good shot when he can release..

    we need someone of his size…he is the next John Leclair, don’t give up too early on him.
    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  80. MNaslund26 says:

    hey planet habs, your posts are always so negative. tomorrow night is not about Latendresse. its about honoring one of the best and classiest hockey players of all time, and keeping pace with THREE of the other top teams in the east. EVERYONE who knows ANYTHING about the game could figure out that Latendresse is not great. He is what he is, and we have him. So if you have nothing insightful, interesting, or NEW to say, then shut the fak up already. AND GO HABS.

  81. 1010 says:

    It is hard to see the upside of this guy. He was over-hyped from the get-go and plays about one half-assed game out of every four or five.

    GO HABS.

  82. planet habs says:

    Latendresse will never wake up, he’s too dumb! he has no idea what to do with the puck, can’t skate, and is never mentally in the game. a career AHL player!
    I hope Gainey gets wise, and sends him to Hamilton where he belongs!

  83. dicktracy says:

    ya you know i always liked that Roger Neilson guy since he refused Ballards paper bag over the head thing…good man…good coach

  84. The Teacher says:

    Go Habs Go

    Go Gainey Go

    Standing O for at least 10 minutes. Let’s do him right.

  85. nightmare_49 says:

    Very nice read.

  86. dicktracy says:

    Bob Gainey reflects on

    I feel lucky to have him and trust bob more than ever….

  87. Ed says:

    Yes, but unfortunately it does not always appear that way.

  88. Shiloh says:

    He is just as slow when he is awake.

  89. Blitzen says:

    Price better get ready cause Nash and Zherdev are going rather well right now. Habs 5-4. I say Lats wakes up in that game. He had a couple of chances last game, which he will bury tomorrow.
    Remember February 19th: The Comeback

  90. Infanteer says:

    A tough game to call . . . Without Nash and Zherdev, the BJs are as easy as pie. With those two, well, it’s a different story . . . about as easy as one No 23.

    Columbus will be hungry, and a hungry BJ is rarely a bad thing. On the other hand, certain Habs will certainly want to stand up on BGs big evening.

    Should be good one to watch.

  91. Ed says:

    This is a game that the Habs have to win. However, you can’t take Columbus for granted. They have Nash, and Columbus has done much better against us than they have against the leafs. Also, some posters say that we do not do well on a night when they are retiring somebody’s jersey. Tomorrow night is the night to change all that, and I believe, after that loss last night, the Canadiens will be determined to win on Saturday night. They have to win one for the Gipper, or in this case, they have to win one for Gainey. Gainey’s night just has to be perfect. If anyone deserves it, he does.

  92. Hoegarden says:

    The main reason we lost is once again my favorite peeve. The one that Bob mentioned at the halfway mark. Faceoffs!
    6 PPs and they did not win a clean take on any of these faceoffs where they could have set up. Instead, the team chased the puck back in our end for most of them. They did set up briefly a couple of times and misfired at the net. That is a real concern. Peca made a mockery of every Hab that faced him.

    The main reason we do not have a #1 goalie is simple. Price is a rookie and cannot be expected to be a #1 goalie, regardless of his potential. We have to be realistic about this kid and lay off. Yes, he gave up two softies and will do it again.
    Huet is a “very good goalie” but for some reason he cannot bail his D when they turn over the puck or just play lousy as has been the case of late. Great goalies will do that 3 out of 4 times.

  93. N.B.habs fan says:

    Hi teach,
    I was wondering this too. Where was con.12 because I haven’t seen him on here for a while,and why do you say you dont care? This is not like you he must of said something to you.None of my business though because I like all the fans on here.

  94. CHCanadien says:

    So Guy Carbonneau thinks this team can win the Stanley Cup! Stanley Cup contenders do not get shut out at home on a night when you honor an all-time great Canadien, to 11th place teams who are supposedly ravaged by the flu. They should be embarrassed. They’ll be lucky to make the playoffs with this type of effort.

  95. N.B.habs fan says:

    You are right there on this one .We had a lot of shots,there goaldie was hot,they played a tight defencive game,well done.I was mad because we lost and we cant blame our goaldies.They are not going to win every game and I thought out team played a good game.They will come back and even stronger.

  96. Shobud says:

    You know its strange with hab fans..If we shut the other team down we are great..If the other team shuts us down its because we played bad.. Never the other team played good.. last night we were shut down.. No room to move or make plays.. Give the blue jackets credit.. They played great hockey last night

  97. 24 Cups says:

    Smart Doggie – We can say what we want about our goalies but it’s hard to win when you don’t even score one goal. When Plekes’ line doesn’t score we are usually in a spot. They were nothing special last night.

    The Original 24 Cups

  98. The Teacher says:

    No idea, and don’t care.

  99. downeast hab says:

    In my opinion,I think the habs can play with any team. But,it depends on what team shows up gametime.Which creats the problem of motivation.Carbo has to get his team prepared to play,if he doesnt, then there is trouble. You can blame whatever players you like, but it must be a team effort and this is the job of the coaches.

  100. G-Man says:

    Speed does count for a lot, I admit. However, positioning counts for something, too, and the kid knows where to be. Earlier this season, Lats was having problems controlling the puck, especially in the offensive zone. Lately, he’s been one of the best cycling the puck in the offensive zone, keeping the puck 200 feet away from his own net.
    With limited ice time and an ever changing cast on the line he plays on, he’s still managed to get scoring chances. Unfortunately for him in the last ten games, he’s not scoring; he’s barely missing. I hope he’s in the line up Tuesday.
    Watch what he does. Count the hits on opposition D and the way he hustles back, a big man getting in the way of the other team. Kostopoulos took his spot, had a fight and wasn’t noticeable thereafter.

    As fans, we want every player on the team to play up to their potential. This kid is a genuine BIG forward who’s not Nash but can still be effective. I see a 30 goal scorer, but everybody wants a 100 goal scorer.


  101. nightmare_49 says:

    G-man – If you can prove to me that he’s improving in his all around play i’ll back you till no end but till then he should be developing in Hamilton , the game is to fast for him now.

  102. linp says:

    The way I see it, the problem of our team in the last two games started with defense then goalie and then the whole team. For two games in a roll, Komisarek and Markov were bad at the start of the game. They gave the opposing team too much room. Then our goalies were not ready to stop those shots. Once we were behind, the whole team became disorganized. The defense made blind passes. The wingers tried to do it alone. Either dump and chase or shooting at the goalie when he had the angle fully covered. The only player who can carry the puck in the offensive zone is Kovy. He is also being asked to play the PK. Carbo is asking too much from one player. It is a shame all his teammates didn’t show up. Our PP was getting slow and predictable and there was no traffic in front of the net.

    Conclusion: Tighten up the defense to help out the goalie in the first period. Made good passes and keep skating.

  103. RH says:

    If you hadn’t mentioned Lats, I would’ve sworn you were talking about Ryder.

  104. G-Man says:

    Lats wasn’t in last night (give a cheer all you haters of Lats out there). The team WAS NOT physical. No one got in front of the net. Carbo gave the kid a kick in the pants for all the goal posts and crossbars he’s been hitting lately. If 1/2 were goals, we’d all be saying what a scorer and a find he’s been. Instead, all that is talked about is his speed and lack of physicality. Putting that much pressure on him to perform when everyone knows he’s not Ovechkin is a tad biased, n’est ce pas?


  105. Smart Dog says:

    Over and over again I see Price and Huet blamed for these losses, and I think the same thing: Carbo doesn’t know how to manage goalies or when to play them. He makes the oddest decisions I’ve ever seen a Montreal coach make about goalies. Right now Huet doesn’t know if he’s coming or going, Price doesn’t know if he belongs with the team, everyone knows Halak is screaming to get a spot. He keeps goalies in until they suck which teaches them that they suck, then calls them out to the press after every soft goal. As if that won’t affect the NEXT goalie he plays the next night.

    Some much more positive observations on the game….
    – I love watching Plekanec play. Great skill, incredible heart. He works his tail off whether he has the puck or not, hounding the opposition.
    – Kovalev played well – some great moves.. though seemed a little tired.
    – Ryder had a good game, he’s picked up some moves, is starting to make smart little plays… I’m shocked!
    – Smolinski – he did set up a few pretty plays, but I don’t know why everyone can’t see how this guy is just a little lazier than the other habs… he dumps the puck where someone else would make a pass, he goes soft on a check where someone else would battle for the puck. I really wish he’d go down with a nice little injury that he could fully recover from by June. Having this guy on the ice slows down our speed game and breaks our momentum.
    – Gorges – a force out there. Komisarek wasn’t as visible last night as usual. The games he doesn’t hit, we lose.
    – Begin – earned his spot AGAIN.

    It was a tough loss because we obviously should have won. Missed open nets, good pressure, a lucky 2nd goal at our end. Whoever said we need a big physical center and to crash the net more… I’m starting to agree. We did everything but that. Lats HAS sucked lately, but I see why they keep him in. His work ethic goes up and down but when it’s up, he’s the kind of player we need because we don’t have anyone else.

    Tough to be a hab fan – we always want more! At least the boys played hard – can’t complain about that, and that’s all we can ask from them. Go Habs!

    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  106. 46_14_27 says:

    Why the habs lost.
    By Me:

    They need a big center, not a winger, a center. Anybody else out there watch Koivu get thrown around all night? Skill will only take you so far. The Habs need size up the middle. That will be the difference between a playoff spot and a playoff run. Trade for Sundin or Marleau and the whole dynamic will change without messing with the chemistry.

    Go Habs Go

  107. habsguy says:

    yup, you guys are right, it’s him !!!!! we’ll know for sure when he mentions Getzlaf !!!!…I also think this is about the 5th or 6th different name he’s used !!

  108. martin says:

    great for Gainey. bad for our team. How is it that a team so good can be so bad? They stunk tonight, the shots on goal do not tell the story. What a shame for BOB. You would think the team would have some pride and show up on such a great nite. Thinking hey this could be me someday but noooooo.

  109. Smart Dog says:

    That’s a good point. Ryder this year – until lately – has been the same kind of player, inconsistent. Imagine if someone NOT on the Plekanec line was scoring consistently. Wow! And Ryder has been playing pretty good hockey – not just the goals, last night he made some good plays, kept the pressure up.

    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  110. Smart Dog says:

    I don’t understand why everyone is saying we were so flat. We outshot them badly in the first period and didn’t let up the whole game. We outhustled them most of the game. We lost because we had a ton of chances that we didn’t bury and hit a hot goalie. Our best players ended up in the minus — so maybe also you could say we lost because we over-rely on 5 guys. But it’s not like we stank. Jeez.

    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  111. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    never mind the trade deadline…how about the WHOLE HAB SEASON!

    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  112. HKisses says:

    THIS JUST IN …..TSN REPROTING THAT HABS SIGNED VINCENT DAMPHOUSE TO A 5 year-20 billion dollar contract and a No John Ferguson Trade clause…..

  113. Hoegarden says:

    Interesting that Don Waddel stayed in T.O. and is currently attending the Marlies/BullDogs game.

  114. nightmare_49 says:

    Pops – What Tampa Bay is doing now on the trademarket is to free money so they can sign their franchise player Vinnie this summer for his hockey life , he’s going nowhere.

  115. habsgod says:

    does anybody know what happend to cournoyer12?

  116. Xtrahabsfan says:

    The Habs have not been playing well period .THREE DEFENCIVE COACHES AND OUR BEST GAME WE GAVE THE RANGERS A 5….5 GOAL ADVANTAGE .And our goalies couldn’t catch a whale with a drift net and our fowards are mostly soft and mostly can’t score!Our D plays small and have so-so slap shots……WE NEED HELP AND WE NEED IT NOW !!! IDON’T CARE IF IT COMES FROM TRADES OR THE BULLDOGS,JUST DO IT NOW Bob”you saw the game “!

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  118. Habster101 says:

    this is our Problem…

    first of all I said it before, we have two goalies with ZERO confidence thanks to Carbo…

    first mistake – plays Huet Thursday night against Pittsburgh when it should have been Price…Price needed to redeem himself for Tuesdays game…that would have given us the win Thursday and boosted Pricecs confidence back up…
    Huet should have played Saturday, he’s our #1 goalie…

    for some reason Carbo is trying to push Price into the #1 spot…

    Second – last night he sits Latron and plays Smolinski…then benches smolinski for 90% of the third period…first of all, I would never play Smolinski again, he’s useless…Latron would have been way better of a player in last nights game, especially his play in the corners…

    Dandy should have been playing also, we need his heart and grit on this team…

    now before last nights game I thought that we dont need to trade for anyone, mainly because I didn’t want to see anyone from this team go…but after last nights game, I dont care who gets traded, as long as we get this impact player…because last night we had nobody who was able to make something happen (an impact player)…

    Gainey will do whats right either way…

  119. showey47 says:

    As much as i prefer price to huet, huet should of gotten the start thursday because he did get the win against the rangers and was strong in the shootout. Price probably would of gotten the win thursday because even though people are saying price is playing bad, at least he doesn’t get scored on by wrist shots from the blueline. This happened against the rangers and pens. Plus many times in the past.

    Only once since price has be recalled did the team score more than 2 goals for him. How many games does huet win when we only score 2 goals? We scord 4 for him on thursday and still blew it.

    I think carbo is pushing price on orders from gainey because he wants to move huet, i for one like this idea.

  120. Hossa is Coming says:

    Hey guys, its me, again, Marian Hossa!
    Hey guys, sorry I wasn’t in the game last night. Bob said I would take too much away from his jersey being retired if I was in the game, and I already had tickets to come to Montreal today. But thanks for cheering for me. I am getting my jersey fitted tommorrow.

    And dont worry, I like to win faceoffs!


  121. Hoegarden says:

    Since yesterday is gone and nothing can be done about it, it’s time to face today’s reality. Saku will likely not see his #11 raised in the rafters of the Bell Centre.
    His penalties last night confirmed yet again that he can no longer perform at peak level in the “new NHL”. Call it what you will, he is running on fumes.
    I posted last month that Carbo should have a word with him and if he cannot put the numbers he would would like to, then he has to stop taking these hooking penalties; just let the guy go, don’t hook you’ll get called.

    As Gainey’s banner was raised last night, you could see that many of the ones already in place, were players names that finished their careers with other teams. I know they will not trade him but I wish he would forget the hook.

  122. von says:

    Embarrassing performance.

    How in the world can you come out so flat after watching a great ceremony like the one the organization put on for Gainey???

    What is with people blaming Price??? He let in one bad goal, the other 2 he had no chance on. He played well despite the one stinker. Considering Huet has been giving up 2+ stinkers lately, I’d say that’s an upgrade.

    The forwards should be ashamed of themselves. How many times did they completely miss the net? Does no one on this team know how to one time a shot? This pause until every stick/leg/body gets in the way to deflect/block was so frustrating to watch! Every shot that actually managed to reach Leclaire was right into his chest. Pretty sad that the only guy that even managed to hit the post was a Hamrlik.

    So much for all this talk about chemistry, blah, blah, blah. No wonder Gainey is after an “impact player.”

  123. theflower says:

    Well once again, its everything rosy if the Habs win and lets destroy the whole team if the Habs lose. Makes me kind of sick actually. Last night like in the previous week, we came out slow and we are not getting the first goal of the game. Anytime you have to play from behind it is a bad thing. Clearly we are a better team when we score first, but for some reason, we seem to be starting slow. Once you are behind you have to change the way you play. For us that has meant some nights it works and some nights it doesn’t. Statistically speaking all teams who don’t score first lose more than they win. That applies NHL wide. We have a good team, but our effort has to begin from the puck drop and in recent nights that has not happened. What many of you seem to forget, as well as this team is doing, because literally any team can win on any night, every game we play is a difficult one. Whether it is against the worst or best teams out there. No team in today’s NHL is adverse to losing. We have been playing well this year because we have been willing to outwork teams many nights. Last night we gave their forwards too much room early and paid a price for it.

    In terms of the big picture, I hate to say it, but we are missing a few things. I love Saku Koivu, but we need more than anything on this team an impact big center man. I for one think Jokinen or Sundin would be the best thing this team could get. I also believe if ever there was a time to trade Koivu and Huet now would be it. I would bring Halak back up and make him our #1. This kid loves the pressure and considering all that we have done to him, he continues to succeed. I believe a winger is a secondary thing. I guess the bottom line, is will Gainey stay the course because our future is so bright, or does he think with a few moves we could be a contender. My feeling is we could be a contender with a few moves and we have enough roster players without having to give up too much youth to make this team better now and for the next 5 years. Let’s see what happens.

    Whatever the case keep you heads up Habs fans. It’s the new NHL we won’t win every game. I just care that we show the effort and the wins will come.

  124. HABZ24 says:

    what the heck happened? lossing to clb on bob gainey night, youve gotta be kidding.price has a big weakness, its moving laterally.when he slides across the net thats where most goals get scored on him, rollie better help him with that now.tuesdays trade deadline should be interesting.

  125. von says:

    “Well once again, its everything rosy if the Habs win and lets destroy the whole team if the Habs lose. Makes me kind of sick actually.”

    There’s nothing wrong with losing. But when you put on a terrible show in your own building on one of the most important nights of the year, people get upset.

  126. theflower says:

    Von, I hear you buddy, but we have a long history of losing on retirement nights. I have no idea why, but we do. It’s like the pressure of the evening affects the teams ability to bring it, for whatever reason. Like I said the effort was missing and we played poorly. However, I am not going to castrate the team over it. That is all I am saying. Am I disappointed, absolutely. Am I going to start screaming bloody murder over it? Not yet. Let’s see how we progress through the next few weeks and then, I might have a different thought process:)

  127. linp says:

    You are right on. For the last two starts, he gave up two goals while diving to his right at the start of the game instead of moving his whole body. But he didn’t do it in the second and the third period. I suspect that he wasn’t ready and hence made those panic moves. Maybe he needs to have a better warm-up routine to get himself ready at the start of the game.

  128. Shobud says:

    You know its funny you should say that..I played goal for fifty years and I noticed when I just took shots to warm up I was off in the game for a good ten min..I used to get guys to do a shoot out and I would be on..You seem to relax on long shots and you are not ready for the close in stuff

  129. skoehn says:

    Ummm All 3 goals price should have stopped… They were weak goals saves he has routinely made… That was a big factor in the game had he made the saves the habs may have gotten more into the game…granted the entire team looked bad..

  130. skoehn says:

    you can’t play the rookie card on saves that he should have stopped…

  131. CHsam says:

    Marion, I found a new pad for you above Chez Pare. Its close to the Bell Center and you’ll be treated well. especially if you score for us

  132. POPS says:

    We all love to play G.M. so here is my shot…First I trade Ryder and a 2nd rd pick in 2008 for Tanguay. Then I flip Tanguay, Huet, Dandeneault and Perezhogin for Lecavalier and A.Roy.

  133. von says:

    LOL how do you figure? The first was from a near impossible angle, and the 3rd was off a terrible give away by Lapierre.

    Give Columbus some credit…

  134. sadave says:

    I didn’t see the goals . . . but he has made BIG saves in other games, many of them spectacular. And he should stop routine shots, no question.

    Sometimes, WHEN a save is made is as important as how good it is. Two early goals really hurt (last night and in Toronto). In my beer league last Thursday, our ‘tendy let in three goals on the first three shots. Guess our attitude. Guess the outcome!

  135. Shobud says:

    Even if they don’r score and our goalie keeps them from scoring its one point..So it does matter.. Apart from that I agree with you

  136. skoehn says:

    i have to disagree had price made those saves the crowd would have been in it.. The momentum may have gone our way and not feeling like you have to come from behind also the other team wouldn’t have been playing a more defesive game… so it does matter if price had stopped the goals especially since they were saves he could have made

  137. Doctor Device says:

    Well, I was at the game tonight, and first of all let me say that it was well worth it because the jersey retirement ceremony was wicked.

    However …

    That was the weirdest third period I can remember in quite a while. The first was obviously not great and Price was surely at fault for goal #2 and might have had #1 as well, but through the second period the Habs seemed like they were coming on and that a goal was coming.

    Then they came out for the third and showed nothing, and seemed to get less and less interested as the period went along. By the end they seemed like they wanted to be doing anything other than playing hockey. And this in a game that they were still, theoretically, not out of!

    I guess Price will get a lot of static but realistically it doesn’t matter how well the goalie plays if they don’t score. It came down to work ethic again – Columbus simply wanted the puck more – and we were brutal on offensive zone faceoffs.

    Disappointing for Gainey not to see a better effort out of the team on his big night. I imagine Carbonneau was not a happy camper.

  138. G-Man says:

    Do you really think the management of this team will panic? The answer, simply,is no. With Gainey at the helm, this team is steadily improving. This current edition is AHEAD of schedule. Not one person thought they would challenge for the conference lead and they have.
    You are right in one respect: this is a long season and it’s almost impossible to go through it without any hiccups or disappointments. “Panic mode” is what happened to the Laffs. I don’t think there will be any major changes on Tuesday as Gainey and the best scouting staff in the NHL look for opportunities to improve the team. If the price is too high, they won’t bite.


  139. RudeMood19 says:

    dude they’re 6 and 6 in their last 12. Stop trying to create panic on these boards.

    People we’re 5th. Last week or whatever we had a 3 game losing streak, we wound up winning 4 in a row. We’ll be fine.
    1. February 19th, 2008, a day which will live in sublimity.

  140. planet habs says:

    It seems that every year, this team hits a brick wall around the 60 game mark, running out of gas. People, it’s because they’re too small, and that trend has not changed the past few years. So unless Gainey maskes some trades to improve this team and make them bigger and stronger, this same trend will continue. But nevertheless, they continue to come out flat every game. There is no excuse for that. I can accept losses if the team battles, but if you don’t put up a fight, then I lose all respect for that team. Our goalies are struggling now, so why not bring up Halak? he’s playing well, and maybe that would be a spark for the team. Also, our defence is giving up too many shots and scoring opportunities. They need to do a better job, and make life easier for our goalies. If Gainey can bring in some scoring help, then it takes alot of pressure off our 1 scoring line. But I think we should try and acquire a goalie, because Price is not NHL ready, and Huet has overplayed his game limit,and can’t handle the pressure anymore. If we make the playoffs it will be because other teams in our conference are struggling too, not because we’re playing well. In other words, we will BACK INTO THE PLAYOFFS. I have little confidence in our goalies. they make me nervous, and I take a deep breath every time a shot is directed their way. Honestly, because there are so few points separating us from the other teams, there’s no room for error. We’ve now lost 8 of our last 12. not good! We should be in panick mode. Boston is 5 points behind,with 2 games in hand. Ny is 5 points behind as well. I hear a train coming, it’s Bos, NYR, Buff,Phil, NYI, and they’re coming fast, and we’re in a stagnant position. Yes we’re now looking like the same team as last year-always pretenders, never contenders! Some may think I’m a pessimist, but actually I’m a realist!
    Changes better come Tuesday, or it’s groundhog day all over again!

  141. Habs-Fan-In-KY says:

    A pessimist….no

    A realist…….no

    A bit radical and ready to panic……maybe

    This team will start to find it’s rhtyhm again. Higgins, Komisarek, Pleks, and the Kostitsyns are just in a funk. Perhaps it’s time to play shuffle the lines again. I say after the team plays better once Tuesday comes and goes.

  142. Vid says:

    I’ve always wondered what is the logic behind the belief that if a player is smaller then they will get tired faster or wear out more during the season?

    Isn’t this more a matter of general fitness of the individual rather than size?

  143. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    every single minute of every game buddy, and sometimes watch it again if its a good one…and play hockey twice a week, so I think I know how to key in on a player and what he’s contributing….

    BUT…WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LATRON (hate when posts turn personal)


    that is what I said, and its an important part of the game as it wears down the defense….DON’T YOU SEE THAT?

    you mean you’ve NEVER SEEN LATRON WORKING THE PUCK DOWN LOW, WITH HIS SIZE HE CAN HOLD OFF THE BIGGER D IN THE LEAGUE AND LOOK FOR A PASS OR CYCLE THE PUCK…as a defenseman that type of hockey is what drains your energy…if you knew about hockey then you’d understand that element of the game and what Latron brings…

    its not all about flying down the wing (plek) or deking in phoneboths (kovy) there are many aspects to winning a game…and we NEED ALL OUR WEAPONS because its a combined effort that will wear down the other team so when our 1st line hits the ice they MAY HAVE IT EASIER if the other lines are doing their job.

    thats all…

    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  144. Shiloh says:

    I too watch every game – and have watched every Habs game I could since the mid-1960’s. I have never seen a less talented player lace them up for the Habs. Your use of the term “workhorse’ is ridiculous – he can barely keep up out there. I have seen him “work” in the corners only rarely. He usually is too slow to make it to where he is going before the puck is somewhere else.

    And please – don’t lecture me about the many aspects of the game. I’m sure one of the aspects we don’t hear about is how the other players felt when Latenderness dressed while ANDREI KOSTITSYN!! sat for 3 or 4 games. Or – how they feel when Chips and Grabovski are in Hamilton and LaSlowesse has never spent a day in the minors.

    I note that you address me as Buddy. That’s cool if you need to be childish but it accomplishes nothing. How about checking out how many seconds LaTenderness actually touches the puck in a game. The kid has 6 (SIX!!) assists this year – and he spent time on Koivu’s line.

    I would trade him if there are any takers. Maybe there’s teams in the hunt for a “workhorse”.

  145. Shiloh says:

    Latendresse a WORKHORSE?????????? What on earth kind of medication are you on? He hardly ever touches the puck or anyone else when he’s out there for his 8 minutes a game. A WORKHORSE??????? Do you ever, like, watch a game?

  146. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    I’d just like to point out the OBVIOUS and the not so OBVIOUIS…

    Carb made an error sitting Latron for this one…when we play against STRONG teams you need a workhorse like LATRON to get in the corners and dig the puck out, that really wears down the Defense and can make a difference for the other lines, tonight we were like flys in the corner with Kostyjr and koivu and scaredy cat Higgins who is so scared to take or give a hit…

    DAMN again KOVALEV has to be the one ROUGHING IT UP.


    Sure he is going to give us a GLORIOUS game once and awhile, but he is NOT READY FOR THE BIG SHOW!!!…not yet.
    Too Slow…tooooooo sssllloooooowwwwww…something like that.

    This loss boils down to Carb and Price…

    Smolink and Kostop?…please..Latron and Dandy are better!!! anybody with a remote sense of the Hab organization will tell you that!!!!!!!! final thought: Bring Halak Up…he brought us to the door step last year and we may need him to do it again
    heck…maybe HALAK IS THE FUTURE!
    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  147. Habs-Fan-In-KY says:

    I asked myself the same questions about personnel on the ice. But honestly, our big guns were in the line-up and could not shoot straight.

  148. Proudones says:

    So according to you Smolinski and Kostopoulos lost us the game. Neither one of them having been on for any goals against.
    And you learned all about hockey where exactly?

  149. Proudones says:

    I’m sorry you missed my point.
    Let me restate it.
    I was trying to say that it would be nice to be able to converse with someone that knows a bit about the game. That was all.
    Oh, one more thing.
    You’re right about the 2 types of people. Unfortunately you’re the first type. The one that always posts about what you think is the problem.

  150. TripleX says:

    I totally agree, Smokes is just dead weight. Begin made a huge hit in the offensive zone during the second period I think. On the same shift Smokes had a chance to keep the cycle going with a hit on a player behind their net, he just gave him a love tap. He is useless and has no desire or heart. Talk about just going through the motions. Begin is doing his job trying to create momentum, then Smokes just kills it. Is it a coincidence the team has played shi**y since he has been in the lineup.

  151. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    hey proudone, nothing to be proud about tonight…get with it loser…did I say they were the cause of the loss?…I said PRICE and CARB.

    the smoke/kostop comes from CARB’s decision to insert them which threw the chemistry OFF on those lines…

    that was my point…whats yours?

    that those players DID THEIR JOB? example?

    of yeah, easier just to knock me and my post then counter my argument.

    the way I see it there is 2 types of people that make a comment…one that points out what HE THINKS IS THE PROBLEM…and the other that JUST BASHES WHAT SOMEONE IS SAYING!!!!

    try writing focusing your comment on what you think went wrong…BECAUSE SOMETHING DID TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  152. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    Problems?…only when there is one…
    when the boys play the game we know they can, then its all about the positives….thats always been my position.

    we are not in the playoffs yet…in fact we may not make it if we play like we have recently…so no time for “players going through the motions”…
    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  153. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    you got it…we need players with heart…Gainey needs to forget about preserving that CAP SPACE for the trades and call up CHIP and whoever else deserves the callup…we need kids that want to prove themselves…

    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  154. Proudones says:

    Talking about posts turning personal…

  155. Shiloh says:

    It was like watching paint dry. They just smother everything. They play the trap 100% of the time.

  156. wild flower says:

    I would probably enjoy seeing some of Nash’s highlights fist hand.

  157. sakusteam says:

    I would hate to be a season ticket holder in Columbus. The blue jackets take all the fun out of hockey.

  158. martin says:

    great obsevation, I was there and I think I might have been closer to the net than any of our guys.

  159. PGHABS says:

    ha, we missed lats in front of the goal!!
    i also think brisebois should be converted into a forward so he can get more ice, especially on the PP
    Huet should also me converted into a defenseman so he can block shots on the PK

  160. T-roy West says:

    The most noticeable thing I saw tonight was no traffic in front of the net. We took slap shots from the point but there was no screen or someone to grab the rebound. When your down by two late in the game, than get physical and crash the net, and send the defence in further. The reason Ryder scored the two goals against the Rangers is because he either hit someone in front or the goalie was screened. Also the defence has to not back up so much. With these sticks today it’s harder for a goalie to stop the puck up high from close in.

  161. Habs-Fan-In-KY says:

    I’m not sure I agree. We had so many opportunities tonight, some with the goal wide open. We just couldn’t pull the trigger on gimmie goals. Pleks mnissed a good three or four chances. Leclaire also got his league leading 9th shutout. Credit the defense around him for tying up the Habs sticks.

  162. linp says:

    We have to accept the fact that the team is supported by the Montreal economy which has 70% french Quebecers.

  163. OldGrover says:

    I agree with this – he shows flashes of what he could be. There are times they just can’t pry him off the puck, that he just powers through. He NEEDS to be in the NHL to develop the habits that will make him great. He won’t learn those things in the AHL – they just don’t have the quality of defenders to play against that he needs to hone his skills.

    He’s a power forward. They are slow to develop, but they need to do it in the NHL. If he becomes what he could be, he’ll be a huge asset. In the meantime, he’s doing alright. Not great, but alright.

  164. NightRyder says:

    If Latendresse is the next John LeClair you are the next Sam Pollock. LeClair could skate. If his last name was Urquhart he would be in the minors. When was the last time the pug got a point?

  165. Sulemaan says:

    I had the good fortune of being at the Bell Centre when they raised Larry Robinson’s #19 to the rafters. We lost 4-2 to Ottawa that night.

    Reading all the articles by the Gazette staff, superb blog posting such as the one by Robert L, great ideas about donating $23 to the Gainey Foundation, the online petition, etc. it shows the admiration for this man.

    Given what Bob Gainey has done as a player, given his efforts to turn around what was an idling team in less than 5 years, given the personal losses that he has gone through (losing his wife to cancer, his daughter after she recovered from a drug addiction) and all the scrutiny and never-ending criticism of being the GM of the Montreal Canadiens, standing up for his players (Souray during his marital problems, Brisebois being booed) – there is only one result that the team must deliver tonight.

    This is not some other regular season game. And this Blue Jackets team can be beaten. Every man dressing tonight needs to look themselves in the mirror and go to war for each other and their GM tonight.

    Nothing less than 110% effort and a win is acceptable in my humble opinion.

  166. Shobud says:

    With you all the way

  167. N.B.habs fan says:

    Great post ,and the best of luck to BOB.

  168. WindsorHab-10 says:


  169. moser17 says:

    That’s entertaining, and interesting for Sens fans too. Duthie’s comment about Kirstie Alley was a cheap shot, though. It was unnecessary and it isn’t funny.

  170. RudeMood19 says:

    WHO’s in NET tonight

    1. February 19th, 2008, a day which will live in sublimity.

  171. Chuck says:

    Price. Tommy K. is in, too.


    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  172. RudeMood19 says:

    Sick, thanks man
    1. February 19th, 2008, a day which will live in sublimity.

  173. V. says:

    Does that mean Smolinski is out?

  174. V. says:

    It is now 3-0 for penguins over sens.

  175. RudeMood19 says:

    3-2 lol
    1. February 19th, 2008, a day which will live in sublimity.

  176. coutNY says:

    noW 4-3 OT win by Sens

  177. TradeRyder says:

    That’s a great Duthie column (link below from Dingwell).

    He says:
    “Win, lose, or arrested, they are the best theatre in the NHL.”


    On Tuesday I will change my name. Any Suggestions?
    – SitSlowinski?
    – 4thRoundorBust?

  178. Smart Dog says:

    Slowinksi is in tonight – sigh – centering Streit and Ryder.

    That’s just what they need, someone slow who can’t hit and makes bad passes.

    On the upside, Dandenault and Brisebois are scratched. So we have a chance.

    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  179. Shiloh says:

    “Someone slow who can’t hit and makes bad passes”

    Hey – you’ve Latenderness every game to do that. On top of that he can’t shoot.

  180. Hockey11 says:

    Hey we have been winning with Dandy, don’t tar him with Breezer Brush.

  181. HKisses says:

    Did u realize how many faceoffs he won last game?

  182. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    who the heck are we playing tonight? Colombo Blue, yellow jackets?

    never heard of them…sounds like some shinny team…and they have a basketball player who scored a lucky goal that overshadowed Kosty’s highlite reel….

    Habs better send them packing…if its not 8-0 then it was a poor effort.
    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  183. Batalla says:

    We all love the guy and what he’s done for us, but has anyone asked why Gainey’s being retired?

  184. Ian G Cobb says:

    What the heck is going on with CBC. They don;t have Bobs night on. Was it not at 6pm???????

  185. sadave says:

    It’s on live at Find the Habs TV link and you should be able to catch it as it happens. I’m watching it now from ‘way down here.

  186. TripleX says:

    WTF?….what are the Laffs doing on CBC Montreal!!! What the hell is going on? Every CBC station on my dish is showing the lousy Laffs!

  187. Leclerc1965 says:

    You guys really have to stop predicting scores let alone wins and losses. 8-0?? Come on man..they aren’t playing Junior level hockey teams.

  188. showey47 says:

    or boston, lol sorry i couldn’t resist.

  189. joe-hab-nuno says:

    or Philly. to bad we don’t play these 2 these for thr whole season. We would have aperfect record.

  190. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    come on its Colombo were talking about…and if we are who we think we are then my comment wasn’t that bad..



    Huet and Price are slower than Molasses in the arctic…
    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  191. usversusthem says:

    So… when are we getting the chat back? Ever?

  192. planet habs says:

    GAINEY GET US A GOALIE, PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  193. usversusthem says:

    Three straight games we’ve been down 2-0 in the first… not impressed.

  194. Hoegarden says:

    Since Bob is already dressed up, why not take a shift or two and show them how to forecheck and cover their winger.

  195. planet habs says:

    Edmonton wants to trade their goalie. we should trade Higgins and Ryder for Rolston and Stoll. If Gainey doesn’t trade for a goalie or play HALAK, NO PLAYOFFS!!!!!!!!!!!
    When is the last time habs were leading at home at the end of the 1st period???????????????????

  196. Shobud says:

    I am sorry but I have to admit that price is not ready for the big time.. Time to bring Halak up and see what he can do..Leclair is showing them how it should be done

  197. Shiloh says:

    Missed both goals because I switched over to watch Cherry – I take it they weren’t strong. We’re having zero success playing the dump and chase – we have to try to carry it over. I’m feeling that we will score three in the second.

  198. Shobud says:

    Try very weak LOL

  199. habsgod says:

    PLANET HABS!!i going to say this to you!!i want you to wake up!!and now and quit saying this team won’t make the playoffs!! your and idiot!that’s clear for us too see!!this team will make the playoffs!!

  200. Rogie30 says:

    Why, the truth hurts, no goalie, no playoffs. Now yell at me. Too soft also.

  201. linp says:

    Our players are rushing the plays, blind passes, etc. No one plays smart hockey.

  202. T-roy West says:

    Are you twelve years old?

  203. planet habs says:

    when have you seen a team make the playoffs, if: a) they have no goaltending, b) can’t win at home, c) NEVER puts in an effort. NEVER!
    let’s face it. habs are pretenders, not contenders!

  204. The Teacher says:

    Wow, you forgot the night we came baCK from 5 goals down. That’s true. It was alllll luck.

    that is 2 out of 3 debunked btw.

  205. idle says:

    In fairness to you, you didn’t say second what…

  206. idle says:

    Teams with no goaltending are where the Leafs are in the standings not where the Habs are. Right now we are suffering a bit but 2 weeks does not a season make.

  207. The Teacher says:

    OOOH Will we have the same quality of late game this week as there was last week?

  208. T-roy West says:

    Montreal came back to beat the Rangers because they played desperate hockey and got traffic in front of the net. The goaltender can’t stop what he can’t see. Being down 2-0 in the third, that is what Montreal should be doing. Why they are not is beyond me because it obviously works.

  209. IVANNEILSON says:

    New song
    yer Godard fight (yer Godard fight)
    yer Dubinsky fight(yer Dubinsky fight)
    yer toronto goal(yer toronto goal)

    yer Komisarek (yer Komisarek)

    Komisarek komi komi Komisarek
    Komisarek komi komi Komisarek


    to the tune

  210. RudeMood19 says:

    I’m so pissed right now.
    1. February 19th, 2008, a day which will live in sublimity.

  211. The Teacher says:

    We certainly have enough Molson Ex in Montreal to accomplish that.

  212. otter649 says:

    What a surprise another French Canadien goalie plays well
    in Montreal – who would have thunk it…..

  213. IVANNEILSON says:

    how many of you are actually match going supporters?

  214. Leclerc1965 says:

    Fact: this young talented team is showing signs of pre-playoff pressure, now they are playing with the big boys.
    Fact: many in this blog think that BG shouldn’t upset team chemistry, do you want to make a run for the cup this year or not? I don’t think this roster is ready. The chemistry comes and goes, that isn’t going to get it done. The talent is there but let’s face it, they are young.
    Fact: If BG is serious and wants to give this a shot this year, pull the trigger and shake it up a bit, not much but a little.
    Fact: We will lose Huet, Ryder anyway..why not move them now and hope for the best. If you don’t want to stand pat and hope for the best…make a move.
    Fact: dynasties are over, you have to live for this season if you work hard enough to make the playoffs which they have..try to finish the job or go home.
    Finally, we have a better offence than defence…let’s upgrade the offence and dress 2 scoring lines instead of hanging our #1 out to dry every night to deal with everyone’s #1 checking line. We will just outscore em’.
    Folks, let’s face it, this season will end in demoralizing dissapointment if this ship isn’t stabilized in the next few weeks. Unfortunately we have about 2 days until we figure out how we want to end this season.

  215. Stephen York says:

    Glad to see Tender riding the pine for once.

    Time to sit LaPierre too – I’m sick of his lacklustre performances…bring up Grabovski and Chipchurra.

    What a horrible game tonight – we weren’t hitting, weren’t forechecking or backchecking…and Price was weak.

    Great way to honor Bob Gainey, boys. :(

  216. T-roy West says:

    Not that anyone doesn’t know it but we are really only three games, points wise, from not making it to the playoffs. Not a lot of breathing room.

  217. The Kid says:

    absolutely pathetic in all facets of the game

  218. Shobud says:

    When you go down two goals in the first few min. that sucks a lot out of you for one thing.. They might be thinking of all the trade rumors too which would not help..But they sure were flat,whatever it was

  219. habsgod says:

    open your eyes!!no goalie,no playoffs!!rogie30 put the crack pipe down and wake up!!teams do go in slumps!!!or haven’t you ever seen that before!we can’t win them all!go and look at the standings and tell me if you think there is no goaltending on this team!you don’t sit in the top 5 without it!!if you think so then you know nothing about hockey and should go watch another sport!!i.e. lawn bowling!!the team i agree played soft tonight with no effort!but to say there’s no goaltending is just dumb!!what this team needs right now is a little tough love from carbonneau!a 5or 6 a.m. practice for about a week and they’ll snap out of it!and quit giving them days off he needs to cancel them to show he means business!

  220. Hoegarden says:

    In case you are keeping track, this makes it 4 shutouts against the Habs this year, all 4 by French Canadians.

    My usual complaint was very obvious tonight; faceoffs.
    Bob Gainey made that statement at the halfway mark and it would appear the message did not register.

  221. MikeL says:

    Gainey left the rink? I could have swore whatever channel I was watching at the time showed him upstairs socializing with family. I noticed Dick Irvin there as well.

  222. skoehn says:

    Price was brutal

  223. Da Hema says:

    The good news with tonight’s loss is that it resolves the goaltending controversy between Huet and Price: they both suck. Mother of God–if the team keeps getting this kind of goaltending, Gainey will need to trade not for a big centre but rather a goaltender.

    It would be unfair to pin this loss entirely on Price. I just wish, for once, when the Habs honour a past great player that the team could suck it up–just once for Christ’s sake–and come out with the attitude they will win the game no matter the cost.
    “Respect your efforts, respect yourself. Self-respect leads to self-discipline. When you have both firmly under your belt, that’s real power.”
    –Clint Eastwood

  224. krob1000 says:

    Probably about the same amount of us with six figure incomes and living in the Montreal area. I can only afford to see them once or twice a year (in Ottawa and I can’t actually afford that)….if you think that somehow makes you a better, or more of a fan than anyone on here then you have just summed up what has happened to hockey with a single arrogant question. My dad took me on two bus trips to the Old Forum when I was a kid and we sat so high I could barely see the players but I still remember those games and always will. Some pe

  225. The Teacher says:

    Bang on Krob.

  226. Leclerc1965 says:

    grow up moron

  227. Xtrahabsfan says:

    We can sure suck with the best of them,OUCH!

  228. Dave Stubbs says:

    Left the ice surface, not the arena.

    Dave Stubbs

    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette


  229. Sulemaan says:

    View from the peanut gallery with my 5 cents:

    (1) The ceremony with Bob Gainey was absolutely classy as are all retirement ceremonies for the Montreal Canadiens. I think that Patrick Roy, Guy Lapointe, Steve Shutt, Toe Blake and Elmer Lach should have their jersey numbers retired as well. Just after we make the playoffs those years!

    (2) I am disguted at the performance of the team tonight. Albeit Price let in some poor goals, the team outshout the Blue Jackets but they were absolutely listless tonight. No fire in their bellies. No edge in their game. What makes me wonder is this was just before the trade deadline and a night when their GM’s jersey was retired. I agree with other posters that Carbo should skate the crap out of the team tomorrow (versus a day off) after the past two no-show performances.

    (3) I think our team honestly believes their own press now. They make a tremendous comeback against the Rangers and now they don’t have to come out swinging in the first 20 minutes. They don’t have to play a solid 60 minutes. The team had more edge and more to prove earlier this year when everyone thought they would NOT make the playoffs.

    (4) I still do not believe they need to blow up the team. This team is being built for a Cup run in 2009 and I see no reason to detract from that focus. Why trade youthful players or draft picks for some player who we believe is the Mesiah. One player a championship does not make. In any event, I’m sure Bob Gainey will make the proper trades come deadline if they are best for the team. And that is not blind faith.

    (5) “Price sucks. Send him to Hamilton. Trade him.” Yes, he has had some poor a starts lately but you don’t give up on a 20 year goalie. I remember when many Habs fans booed Patrick Roy mercilessly when we were losing 8-0 to Detroit. He was finished, over-the-hill and then he gets dealt in the worst trade of our history and goes on to win 2 Stanley Cups. Yes, his play of late is frustrating but be patient with this kid. He is a keeper. If authorities like Gainey and Dryden think so, who are we to question it?

    (My apologies for the long post. I’m frustrated tonight.)

  230. Stephen York says:


    Besides, most of the ‘good seats’ are taken up by scalpers or corporate guests who couldn’t care less about the Habs…

  231. jonhab33 says:

    It is going to be a lot harder to make a trade now. A week ago we were dealing from a position of strength. Now every other team knows that Montreal is struggling and will charge just a little bit more for a player because they know that the habs are a little bit desperate now. One more thing. Why have the ceremony the weekend of the trade deadline? Doesn’t Gainey have more important things to do? Can we all admit that Price is way over his head this year? He will have a good 2 or 3 games and then a bad 2 or 3 games. His mechanics and positioning need to be fixed.

  232. IVANNEILSON says:

    as much as im making an arrogant question, i go to 30 games a year and all i hear is “who’s that” and “that guy sucks”. and im sick of people with no knowledge of what it is to be a habs fan making stupid comments about the team/organization. im not singling anyone out but since we have moved to the soulless bell center there has been zero atmosphere/ real support.

  233. MikeL says:

    Good points. Ignore the moron below me with the “zzz’s”.

  234. Leclerc1965 says:

    Sulemaan, love most of your posts you are a thinking man with a good handle on the game. Buuuuttt, your 4th point is confusing. Sitting where they are this season, if your not playing for the cup this year just what are they playing for???? Respect? We don’t have to mortgage the future to seriously, I mean seriously make a run for it this year. Let’s face it, the east is weak…we have a shot, why not take it? It’s not like we would be facing Detroit, San Jose, or even Dallas to get there. Ottawa, New Jersey, Pittsburgh, Rangers..none of these teams scare me. By the way, I was disgusted with the game tonight (and my wife has the nerve to ask me why I get so upset at a television over a hockey game). I’m frustrated too.

  235. gumper says:

    Got to agree with Suleman. After the Rangers comeback win, les boys became heroes in Montreal. Nothing could stop them. The road to the Stanley Cup had suddenly been cleared of all obstacles. When you start believing (as they clearly have) that you are truly exceptional…destiny’s chosen ones…what’s the point in working up a sweat? The gods are smiling on you.

    The sooner they get out of town the better as far as I’m concerned. Maybe when they don’t have a multitude of adoring fans worshipping at their feet, they’ll come back to earth and start playing hockey. Meanwhile, a disgraceful showing on Gainey’s big night. Sadly, this will make the boss’s decisions re trades a lot easier to make.

  236. IVANNEILSON says:

    its ok there are 6000+ (probably more) waiting for my season tickets so we dont need you.
    malnourished…oh dear

  237. Habs-Fan-In-KY says:

    It’s been a looooong while since I’ve posted. About tonight:

    – I recommend that future jersey retirements occur when we play the Bruins or the Flyers.

    – I think this team is going through a bit of a funk. As with all funks, the team will find it’s groove again…perhaps after the trading deadline.

    – as for the trading deadline, I’m not sure a large shake-up or for that matter any shake-up needs to occur. I feel that taking in a Hossa or Jokinen type player will mortgage our excellent future talent. Or, it will severly hamper our ability to resign our own players due to the salaries guys like that make. I mean, how many people really regret not getting Briere at this point? He’s been a huge defensive liability.

    – I think Huet needs to take over again and keep him there. Price’s mechanics seem off. Tonight’s loss cannot be blamed entirely on his performance.

    – the west coast trip this team takes next month will define this team’s destiny. Consider this, that the Habs are 1-3-1 against the West this year (including tonight) and the lone win was a shootout win over Chicago. A lot of the Eastern teams have had problems with the western conference.

    – and finally….what did you expect? The other team had a french Canadian in goal!!!!!!!!!

  238. Habs-Fan-In-KY says:

    I agree with you on all points. The biggest change in this team is that it’s not getting in front first. It seemed the first period had been their friend, but the past few games, it’s been their enemy. I don’t think they have scored a goal in the first period the past 3 games.

  239. skoehn says:

    melanson was with price in hamilton working with him..

  240. TripleX says:

    Price was not very good I will give you that. BUT WE SCORED ZERO GOALS! The whole team stunk the joint out.

  241. Leclerc1965 says:

    I think that another offensive threat in the lineup would force these weaker (in comparison to West) teams to change the way they line up against the Habs, maybe that would level the playing field within the conference.

  242. habsgod says:

    hey timo!i agree i think melanson is the problem !i think he has price and huet playing on there knees to much!that style sucks and doesn’t work!!that stlye causes the goalies to go down wayyyyyyyyy to often and wayyyyy to earlier!and then they get caught out of position or can’t recover quick enough to get back up and stop second and third shots!!if i was bob gainey i’d fire melanson for the betterment of the develpment of price!otherwise this guy is going to ruin him!when price came up earlier and played against the flyers he was standing up and not going down thus making him very difficult to score on!!i’ve noticed to when him and huet go down they stay down with the puck behind our net,when the should be standing up!if they fire melanson i’d hire patrick roy to tutor price!as i mentioned about huet he was standing up alot earlier when price went to hamilton and he was playing great!!we get melanson back and these guys start going down to early and to often………..the result bad goals!please bg fire melanson he’s going to ruin price!!

  243. habsgod says:

    sorry to mention this leclerc1965!lol with all those facts you listed are you sure you aint for facts sake or whatever his name is?lol!!!!

  244. Sulemaan says:

    Don’t even bite at the bait my friend. Just swim by…

  245. PureGuava says:

    hahaha Dagenais!

  246. Leclerc1965 says:

    just improvising

  247. N.B.habs fan says:

    Kjdavid .Have to agree with you on price he may have had 1 bad goal go in on him,the rest were the defences fault.and we have to score goals to win simple as that.Price was sharp last night.give him a break…….

  248. Gooner says:

    We were just lucky that the blue jackets are not known for their scoring. Price did not play well last night period. These things happen, get over it.

  249. The Teacher says:

    Lapgod? What’s that?

  250. The Teacher says:

    Hahas, yeah. but bugging you was more fun than watching the Habs tonight. Don’t you agree?

  251. Da Hema says:

    I feel sorry for Dave Stubbs et al who now have to go to the locker room to hear all the cliches by the players. I have not yet heard about or read the players’ post-game comments, but I suspect they will go something like this:

    Chris Higgins: “We just didn’t play 60 minutes tonight.”

    Saku Koivu: “We need to play with more intensity.”

    Alex Kovalev: “We were flat tonight.”

    Mike Komisarek: “We were outworked.”

    It would be nice to hear one of the Habs players say: “We apologise to Mr. Gainey and all of our fans for tonight’s performance.”
    “Respect your efforts, respect yourself. Self-respect leads to self-discipline. When you have both firmly under your belt, that’s real power.”
    –Clint Eastwood

  252. Scotty90 says:

    just looking through the different trade rumour sites and there is very little on Montreal other than Tanguay would never want to play in the Montreal fish bowel. I know that BG’s goal was to build from the nets out. Once the goalie situation was addressed, defence was worked on. Now that ‘D’ is running smoothly, the focus was switched to offence and talk of shopping for a ‘an impact player’ to bolster the attack has been the talk around town. However, I am not sure that our goalie situation is very good right now! I don’t believe Price is quite ready yet for the jump into the NHL… there is no sense in shattering his confidence… keep him in the AHL for at least another year so that he may reach his full potential. Huet is just too inconsist. How can forwards and ‘D’ comfortably go on the offense if they don’t have full confidence that their goalie will come up big if need be?

    Bring up Halak?

  253. Leclerc1965 says:

    I betcha Hossa wouldn’t have missed.

  254. G-Man says:

    That was a lesson in Ken Hitchcock hockey. Score first and don’t give the other team any room, especially when it’s Kovalev. Leclaire made no mistakes while Price lets in a softie or 2 and it’s pffttt! Thought the team would come out harder than they did. That lacklustre 1st period was unforgivable. One come from behind improbable win is nice, but every night?


  255. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    sure, but the BIG GUNS aren’t effective because the 3rd and 4th lines are NON-EXISTENT!

    lets face it, RYDER is useless if he has to work with Smolinski…
    and during this mini-slump, Ryder has been our best player.

    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  256. Habs-Fan-In-KY says:

    could it be that Ryder has chosen now to pick up his game to enhance his chances of being picked up by another team? Let’s say we don’t trade Ryder, my gut tells me he goes back to not producing. I LOVE Ryder, I hope I’m wrong but………..

    I saw plenty of hits delivered by the lower lines, just no chemistry on them in regards to offense. Maybe the didn’t produce goals, but the didn’t let in the goals either.

  257. Proudones says:

    “the BIG GUNS aren’t effective because the 3rd and 4th lines are NON-EXISTENT”…are you for real?
    Please tell me you know a little bit about hockey. On second thought, don’t bother.

  258. Habs-Fan-In-KY says:

    I see that the Leafs beat Atlanta soundly, giving them only one goal. We pretty much have to be considered the BIG favorite in that game. BTW, no Quebec goalie on the roster for Atlanta…..that bodes well for us!

  259. Habs-Fan-In-KY says:

    Another interesting stat someone rattled off during the game was that we are the leagures 3rd best offense in regards to goals scored. I checked the stats and believe he is right. So id getting a sniper what we need?

  260. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Coming back from that 5-0 deficit against the Rangers the other night seems to have jinxed this team because they apparently forgot how the game should be played. I’m a big Carey Price supporter but he was extremely awful tonight despite the team playing flat. Both goalies seem to be in LA LA land so perhaps we’ll be seeing Halak very soon.

  261. Doctor Device says:

    Obviously I am not saying it doesn’t matter how the goalie plays, *at all*. But when I came on here the main thing I saw was ‘Price = brutal’ and similar and most of the comments from other fans at the game were all blaming Price for the whole thing, which in this case is unfair because the rest of the team was no better. So, yeah, goaltending was a problem last night. But there were a lot of other problems.

    Seriously, the number of Habs who were still playing hard in the second half of the third period – still only down two goals – was pretty short. Ordinarily I would agree with one of the later posters that fans need to give Columbus some credit, but there’s no way to describe the lack of hustle, desire for the puck, and basic execution from Montreal in that third period.

    I have to disagree with SmartDog’s assessment that Plekanec and Kovalev had strong games. Plekanec was brutal on offensive zone faceoffs and his passing was off all night. Kovalev was floating by the end of the game. They’ve been great most of the year so hopefully they (and the rest of the team) will get back to their better habits for the Atlanta game, but last night: not very good at all.

  262. Gooner says:

    I’m not bad mouthing Price just pointing out the truth. I hope he does get better but right now I don’t believe he is ready. Take off your rose coloured glasses. As far as Huet I know it is not Price’s fault for the way he is playing. Only little kids like you would think of something stupid like that to say. Grow up !!!

  263. planet habs says:

    FACT: the habs have lost 8 of their last 12!
    Fact: the rangers are beating Florida 3-0. If they win, they’re only 3 points behind the habs.
    Fact: the habs have come out flat in almost every game the past month.
    Fact: Huet has never won a playoff series for us.
    He couldn’t win against Carolina, and he couldn’tstop a puck last season in the most important game of the season. He is a MEDIOCRE goalie at best. A CAREER BACKUP! STATS ARE FOR LOSERS!
    He has never won a pressure game, and as soon as Price came back to the team, he couldn’t win. HE CAN’T HANDLE PRESSURE. AND THIS IS THE GOALIE SOME OF YOU WANT? Reality check people. We don’t have the goaltending to make the playoffs, not to mention the fact that this team comes out flat every game.
    I’ll tell you who I respect. THE BOSTON BRUINS. they have less talent than the habs, yet manage to put in a 60 minute effort every game. They show up every game, and aren’t quitters, unlike our team. They have a terrific cosch who’se able to motivate players, and they have grit and toughness.Even tho they can’t beat the habs, they’re still only 5 points behind us, with 2 games in hand.They’ll finish ahead of us.
    kudos to the BRUINS!

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