Game 62: Comeback vs. Penguins wasn’t to be

Canadiens defenceman Roman Hamrlik rides Penguins’ Tyler Kennedy into the boards.
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PAT HICKEY
The Gazette

The Canadiens found out how the other half lives as they ran out of miracles Thursday night. Montreal came back from a 3-1 deficit to take a 4-3 over the Pittsburgh Penguins, but Evgeni Malkin took over from there to lead the visitors to a 5-4 win.

Malkin, who has picked up his game since superstar teammate Sidney Crosby was sidelined with a high ankle sprain, scored his 35th goal on a breakaway to tie the game at 4-4 at 10:22 of the third period and then assisted on Sergei Gonchar’s power-play goal at 10:58 for the game-winner. He had a goal and two assists and continues to lead the NHL in scoring with 82 points.

The Canadiens’ power play, which has ranked among the best in the National Hockey League all season, played a major role in the Canadiens’ shortlived comeback as it scored the first two times they had a man advantage.

And the Canadiens also received another key goal from Michael Ryder, who has suddenly come to life while trade rumours swirl around him.

Ryder tied the game at 3-3 when he banked a shot off goaltender Dany Sabourin’s skate from the low faceoff circle at the 21-second mark of the third period.

It was the 12th goal of the season for Ryder, but more important, he has scored four of those goals in the last three games. His goal was sandwiched between power-play goals by Christopher Higgins at 18:07 of the second period and by Roman Hamrlik at 3:25 of the third period.

The loss meant the Canadiens were unable to keep pace with the Ottawa Senators in the Eastern Conference standings, while the Penguins moved into a tie with Montreal and New Jersey for the second-best record in the East with 75 points each.

It might have been an emotional letdown after the historic win over the Rangers Tuesday, but it was a familiar story as the Canadiens came out flat.

The Penguins outshot the Canadiens 15-8 in the opening period and grabbed a 2-0 lead. Ryan Whitney opened the scoring with a shot from the point at 6:46. Huet had to deal with a deflection and a fair bit of traffic, including Evgeni Malkin, who picked up the first assist on the goal.

Jarkko Ruutu, who is known more as a pest than a scorer, made it 2-0 at 18:47. Ruutu’s second goal of the season was a gift as Andrei Markov didn’t get as much was he wanted on a clearing pass. The result was that Ruutu found himself alone in front of the net. He caught Huet moving from one side to the other and put the puck between the goalie’s skates.

The Canadiens dodged a bullet a few minutes earlier. Jordan Staal appeared to have a clear path to the net, but he was brought down from behind by Ryan O’Byrne. Referee Bill McCreary could easily have called for a penalty, but instead gave O’Byrne two minutes for tripping and the Canadiens were able to kill the penalty.

The Canadiens’ homestand continues Saturday night when the Columbus Blue Jackets are at the Bell Centre. The game will be preceded by ceremonies to retire general manager Bob Gainey’s No. 23. The festivities start at 6 p.m. and the opening faceoff is scheduled for 7:30 p.m.

THREE STARS 1. Evgeni Malkin 2. Alex Kovalev 3. Ryan Malone

270 Comments

  1. jew4jah says:

    i downloaded a garbage version of the game on torrents last night. it’s missing some goals and the ‘fight’ between komi & dubinsky. there should be a full version online soon enough. not that i condone illegal downloading or anything like that.

  2. RetroMikey says:

    Scotty90:

    Respect my friend. You’ve got my e-mail and contact me once you hear any news!

    “We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets”

  3. REB says:

    I like the idea of Hossa in a Habs uniform, and I can understand the logic of trading 2 UFAs for 1 UFA (or some other combination thereof), but what I really want (and I’m sure BG wants the same) is to announce the signing of Hossa to a 2-3yr contract that doesn’t break the bank. Could this be what is holding up the parade – BG having permission to secretly negotiate with Hossa before a trade is done? I know Ryder sure looks happy lately – has he secretly (with permission) negotiated a decent contract with Atlanta?

    Ahhhh, don’t you just LOVE rumours!!!

  4. krob1000 says:

    nice post!!!

  5. ONTARIO HAB says:

    I would like to see what he will do in the playoffs
    I have a gut feeling he will be huge

  6. Scotty90 says:

    Retro-Mikey and Smart Dog…. I wrote RDS and asked them if DVDs’ of the game were available. I don’t know how long it’ll take for an answer but they will e-mail me back. Will let you know what they say.

  7. TradeRyder says:

    Should They Still Trade Ryder?

    You may be surprised at my answer….

    At the start of the year I said they should trade him because I thought he wasn’t speedy enough to fit, and he needed to be fed the puck to score. I wanted someone else on that first line and thought there was no other place for him. I really didn’t like his last and second-last plus-minus place over two years and thought his value was as high as it could get.

    I still say I was right and if we HAD traded him and he had 12 goals at this point everyone not born in Newfoundland would agree with me.

    But all this time the one thing that sometimes made me hesitate was his 3-goal performance in the last game last year. He wanted to get to the playoffs – and more than any other Hab that key night he showed it where it counts – on the scoreboard. Tuesday night Ryder had that same kind of game – he was in the flow, found his spots, and put it in when it counted. He may be a play-off performer. And I have to admit that given the play of Koivu and Higgins this year that having only 12 goals has to do with more than just Michael Ryder.

    And what makes it really tough is the guy is so darned likable. A class act. So should we trade him? I think if the right offer comes along, we still should. He might go on to score 30 more next year, but if on the other hand he slumps again, it will be a huge distraction, and someone like Chipchura will stay in Hamilton because of it.

    That said, I would not be upset if we kept him. His value isn’t what it was when I started the “Trade Ryder” campaign – and he has become a more complete player. What is more interesting is what Bob is thinking right now. My guess is that Bob will watch these next games very closely to see if we have the goal-scoring Ryder back which would be fabulous for a team already strong in scoring but over-reliant on one line.

    Regardless, I will drop the name TradeRyder at the trade deadline. I’m open to suggestions for another. Right now “SitSmolinski” is the front-runner. :)

    And regardless of that – way to go Michael. Great game Tuesday night.

    _____________________________________________________________
    Let the kids play… let the non-performers watch or walk.

  8. ONTARIO HAB says:

    so who’s in net tonight?
    I would go with Price

  9. Smart Dog says:

    If someone has that – I’d like it to! I’ll give you twenty bucks for it!
    ________________________________________________________________
    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  10. the real vinnydj says:

    We need another Komisarek but this one will play up front and take out bodies. Did you guys see him laying everyone out just before he took that high sticking penalty?. HOLY MOLY.

  11. Hoegarden says:

    Penguins are very hot of late with their PP.
    13 goals in 43 attempts in their last 9 games or a 30.25% success. Gonchar leads the NHL with 35 points on the PP and Malkin has 34. On our side, Kovy has 34.

    Our goalies in the minors are currently doing very well.
    Halak now leads the AHL with a saving percentage of .928 and Cedric Desjardins is ranked #1 with his .935 sp.

  12. wd40 says:

    another good test for the Habs. it’ll be interesting to see how the team responds after the incredible high they’ve obviously been riding. and with 20+ games to go, it really doesn’t mean anything, but if the playoffs started today, they’d be our dancing partner. ;)

  13. cautiousoptimist says:

    Sooooooooooo, how about that Pittsburgh game?

    http://www.flickeringpictures.com

  14. Rogie30 says:

    Marian needs a big winger that can go to the boards and feed him the puck, thats our next objective, toughness.

  15. 24 Cups says:

    showey – I totally agree with you – in fact this is the only real pet peeve I have with this website. I understand that the columnists try and keep us updated and feel the need to add new threads at least once a day. But posters tend to be lazy and post comments on whatever is at the top of the page, whether it relates to the thread or not. On game day, the game day post should always be at the top. It should be standard procedure regardless of which writer is in charge for that afternoon.

    I think it would be beneficial if Dave would give us some insight into how these decisions are made. It would also be great to know how he (and the others) feel about having the game day thread at the top as a matter of standard policy. (outside of a major trade or unusual event)

    The Original 24 Cups

  16. Habhopeful says:

    I Agree, hossa will do good for this team, how could he not hes a very talented two-way player, goal scorer and playmaker and big, fast with good hands…But then again lecavalier would be better to have then hossa but for now, lets keep with Hossa

    “Like, you can’t get a girl pregnant when she’s on top man, I mean, its gravity…Just can’t happen.”

    -Jason Segel

  17. A. Berke says:

    I agree that Price needs to get the start tonight if nothing else, to get back his confidence.

    Besides in the rangers game, IMO he was weak only at the second goal, on the other 2 goals the defence (the whole team) was a lot more culpable than Price. After all, goalies are humans and they will be scored upon. What needs to be addressed are the soft ones and that applies to both Price as well as Huet.

    Hoping for a good game tonight with a lot of hard work from the team and hopefully better than mediocre officiating.

    Cheers

    Ali B.

  18. krob1000 says:

    I’ve been posting it for nearly a month and now finally almost everyone is on board…we still have a few people who refuse to take the time to look at the facts and call Hossa a non-playoff guy….it’s ridiculous. I added the Lecavelier bit as he seems to be the chosen one around these parts….that is a dream….Hossa is very real.

  19. T-roy West says:

    Here’s hoping that Huet gets a shutout tonight!

  20. RetroMikey says:

    Anybody still ot there that can make me a DVD copy of the full version RDS game against the Rangers please?
    Contact me on my e-mail address
    canadiens@sympatico.ca

    “We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets”

  21. Habhopeful says:

    i already posted all that far below lol

    “Like, you can’t get a girl pregnant when she’s on top man, I mean, its gravity…Just can’t happen.”

    -Jason Segel

  22. Rogie30 says:

    He is simply one of the best players in the league, and makes us not only better, with a little toughness, we now look likea contender for once.

  23. habfan53 says:

    And throw in Vigneault from last year.

    Sometimes I wonder if we gave up on them. ALL FOUR were hired with NO NHL experience. Vigneault ran into a period of bad luck with injuries 2 years of over500 games lost. Therrien needed to learn to control his temper (still a work in progress) and Julien never mind Montreal the unkindest cut was Lamorillo last year.

  24. krob1000 says:

    For those of you who think Hossa is a no show in the playoffs.

    http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=PlayerDetail&playerId=8466148&tab=crst

    http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&page=PlayerDetail&playerId=8467329&tab=crst

    Hossa’s career playoff stats 13 g 22a 35p in 55 games (he sucked in his first three playoffs as a kid and last year the whole Atlanta team disappeared in the first round…they were truly awful). If you discount Hossa’s first three years when the Sens were chokers in the first round (Hossa was only one of their primatry scorers in the third year) he has 12g 19a 31p in 41 games.

    Lecavelier’s career playoff stats are 18 goals 15 assist for 35 points in 45 games ( He also didn’t amke the playoffs for the first five years of his career when he was young and not fully developed like Hossa).

  25. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Can’t fault Carbonneau for sticking with the same lineup as Tuesday night against the Rangers and this includes Huet. I think he deserves a start tonight and I hope the Habs remember what Crosby-less-Pens did to them on Hockey Night In Canada last time they played. It’s payback time.

  26. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    amazing how you just mentioned 3 Habs coaches…

    our time is truly coming…it is destiny.
    ———
    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    1. ONLY BELIVEAU CAN CONVINCE LECAVALIER…
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  27. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Huet is starting and rightfully so. He was amazing in the shootout and earned tonight’s start. I’m sure Price will bounce back his next game.

  28. habfan53 says:

    With Pittsburgh in town tonight I was thinking about Therrien handling the club without Crosby (8-4-2)
    I can’t speak for the west but I would say three candidates for the Adams from the east would be Therrien, Carbo and Julien who has played basically the whole year sans Bergeron.
    Montreal has been lucky(for a change) in that we have not had to suffer any major illness or injury to a key player this year foran extended period.

  29. Rogie30 says:

    A first line center to compete with Ottawas top line, and an instigator-Paulsson shut down player would be nice.

  30. showey47 says:

    I am the only one that thinks this article should be at the top of the top instead of being the 5th down? It is game night.

  31. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    thats the REST factor, and Carb has to read that.

    a goalie can have a good game and still lose.

    I’m sure Carb will give them both work, but once it becomes
    more clearer than the other will sit.

    right now its HUET’s JOB…and the only thing thats going to
    take that away is HUET…NOT PRICE.

    even if price starts 7 of the last 20 and wins them all
    and Huet starts the other 13 and only wins 7 but loses 6
    I still think Huet would get the call come playoffs.

    but with Price ready to jump…just like Carolina and GERBER/WARD
    the year of the KOIVU EYE DEBACLE from that BASTARD UNJUSTIN WILLIAMS.

    GERBER dropped the first 2 then WARD came in for the run.
    ———
    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    1. ONLY BELIVEAU CAN CONVINCE LECAVALIER…
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  32. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    it was the perfect circumstance for a goalie to stand up and make a point.
    some guys thrive on that chance…gives them EXTRA incentive…motivation.

    its called a “challenge”…..most veterans NEED IT…most rookies FEAR IT.
    ———
    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    1. ONLY BELIVEAU CAN CONVINCE LECAVALIER…
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  33. odber says:

    beg to differ,neil does a number on us and we could use some help in this dept.

  34. ONTARIO HAB says:

    i just hope we can utilize both and not wait till one blows up to put in the other guy

  35. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    The answer to that TODAY = HUET.

    but when the time comes? we don’t know yet.
    ———
    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    1. ONLY BELIVEAU CAN CONVINCE LECAVALIER…
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  36. Habs_008 says:

    Huet might have played one time that i remeber this year, after having a bad game. I love Price, he is our future. But i dont like sitting Huet for 3-5 games. He needs to play 2.

  37. Habster101 says:

    dont worry about Chris Neil…he’s just a big mouth who will get penalized at the wrong time against Montreal and our power play will take care of the rest…

    we dont need a goon of anykind, we have talent, and talented players know how to deal with big mouth goons…

    this isn’t the 80s style hockey anymore…

  38. 46_14_27 says:

    jason:

    Two things stand out from your post:

    1. You have a very limited knowledge of the game we love to call hockey

    2. If you don’t learn a little bit more about sex, you may also end up with a limited amount of spending money.

    Go Habs Go

  39. Habster101 says:

    Well lets see how they play tonight against Pittsburgh before we want any trades or not…

    this will be a bigger test than NYR were, if they can keep up the same intensity and play well hopefully for 60 mins then really we don’t need anyone…

    But Hossa would still be a nice fit in Montreal, he’d get his respect in the league back and he can also revenge Ottawa for dumping him into the abyss of the league…

    Hossa this year + Lecav next year = 2 Stanley’s back to back…

  40. wd40 says:

    As the Trade Deadline approaches, what would you like to see Gainey do?

    http://hiopolls.blogspot.com/2008/02/h-io-poll-3-trade-deadline-fast.html

  41. Rogie30 says:

    One of our goalies really has to step it up, funny that Huet looked more comfortable as a releiver, and I like him alot, and tighten up that defense, boys.

  42. odber says:

    it would be nice to pick up a player that can counter chris neil,,,tired of komasarik having to deal with this guy all the time.

  43. sidhu says:

    I’d play Price against a weaker C-Bus team. I’d rather have him face Modin, Fedorov, Nash, than the leading scorer in the league in Gino. Huet is the goalie who won the last game, I can’t see Carbo making any changes to that lineup the game after. I hope Dandy steps it up tonight because I thought he was the least significant player on the ice for us against NYR.

    Go Habs Go!

  44. Habster101 says:

    I think we should play Price tonight…give him a chance to repair his mishap last game.
    Huet is OK…again I will say he is our #1 goaltender for this year….

    Price played good against the kids in Pittsburgh before.

    Huet has been an integral part of the team and will win us a cup for it with Price watching, learning and sometimes contributing…

    Next season Price will be playing the lead role with Huet backing him for our 2nd cup in a row…

    then Huet will retire and Price will carry the torch further and create new history for us to dwell on…

    sounds crazy? just remember where it came from when it happens…

  45. ONTARIO HAB says:

    Hey hab fans Im planning a trip to Montreal soon I would like to watch a game at a sports bar somewhere. Is Richards tavern still there? Where would be the best place to go?
    thanks

  46. T-roy West says:

    Team990 is a joke!

  47. 24 Cups says:

    Shobud – I understand where you are coming from (to a degree), it’s a lot like Ian and some other guys. I respect that. All I’m asking is that you take s step back and look at the over direction and makeup of the team. Let’s not just ride this winning streak thinking it will carry us forever. This is a major chess game we are in now and I think that we win both ways – we have a lot of pieces to play and we have a leader who will proceed cautiously to move those pieces. But as the game unfolds we also have to be ready to adapt and change our strategies. It’s the only way to victory.

    The Original 24 Cups

  48. Shobud says:

    I think we might see a big difference in Huet tonight..After pulling that game out the other night he knows that he can do it..Even shootouts..I sure hope I am right.. If he folds tonight you better start looking to someone else for the playoffs

  49. Wayne says:

    I thought Max was it. I don’t think we need another sh!t disturber. Besides, the type of players who stir the pot and not fight, only serve to piss the other team off even more. Sometimes to the point of cheap-shotting the best players. If anything, we need a goon to protect Max and everybody else. We need a size-able side of beef sitting there on the bench to remind the opposition there’s a price to pay.

  50. Habhopeful says:

    Gettin rid of ryder(who everyones know has been having a crappy year) is okay in my books, we did good without him so far this year and would probably still do good without him…As for Streit, I love streit, hes one of my fave players on the habs, i even have him in a couple pools, but if its those 2 guys for Hossa, that is a good trade…On top of it, during the offseason, we still could have a chance of resigning streit because he is UFA and if he really loves it here he’d be willing to come back, unless of course Gainey and waddell place some sort of restriction
    on that type of deal, as for streit’s PP abilities, he was awesome at the point, booming shot and good vision, but SKOZ
    has been manning the point lately and thats what carbs is trying to make Skoz into, a Streit type point player on the P.P, we’ve seen him already get good cross ice passes and good positioning, if not you, then me cause i have noticed it…In the end i think it’ll be good to have Hossa

    “Like, you can’t get a girl pregnant when she’s on top man, I mean, its gravity…Just can’t happen.”

    -Jason Segel

  51. JF says:

    I hope you’re right. When he pulled off the shootout win in the Atlanta game, it seemed to raise his confidence enormously, and he was great the next few games.

  52. ONTARIO HAB says:

    that is Carbos job to make sure it doesn’t happen

  53. ONTARIO HAB says:

    thanks man are there no bars still owned by some players?

  54. HABZ 24 says:

    habs best beware, after comming off a huge high last game theres bound to be a let down,do it vs pitt and ull get burned.go habs go!!

  55. wd40 says:

    i suppose there’s no jinx if you say it before the game starts ;)

  56. ONTARIO HAB says:

    well Prof. who starts game 1 of the playoffs

  57. Habs_008 says:

    Are you kidding? To Get a guy like Hossa for 2 players who wont be here next year? Even if Hossa leaves in the Offseason, i would rather have him. I belive we will have a better shot at the cup with Hossa. The Guy can flat out PLAY! Streit is gonna ask for way too much next year. Someone will pay it, not us. Ryder same.

  58. ONTARIO HAB says:

    Carbo has to change his stay with one guy till he blows up plan. That way we can take advantage of both goalies

  59. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    I’d consider PRICE….I don’t fear the penguins and it would be a good bounce-back game for the kid…Usually we allow Huet to bounce back under similar situations.

    But I also see Carbs strategy, reward the hot hand with another start, and from that perspective it would be CRAZY to start Price after HUET was integral in out MOST HISTORIC GAME!

    but I’d definitely get Price back in sooner than later.
    ———
    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    1. ONLY BELIVEAU CAN CONVINCE LECAVALIER…
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  60. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    I think you hit the nail on the head…he is a CLUTCH PERFORMER.

    In regards to your Moniker, at the trade deadline you will have to change it because it will become Irrelavant based on if Ryder is traded and/or if he remains, and the trade doors are closed…then the negativism’s associated with the name will have no place going into the playoffs!

    of course if the unthinkable happens and we lose 15 of the last 20 and the leafs get in and we are out and Ryder is the cause of it all…..then I WILL CHANGE to DUMP-RYDER myself!

    ———
    1. Feb 19, 2008 – History was made.
    1. ONLY BELIVEAU CAN CONVINCE LECAVALIER…
    2. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    3. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    4. We will win the CUP

  61. wd40 says:

    if you want to stay in the heart of downtown, i really like the “new” Ye Old Orchard Pub on de la Montagne (between St.Catherine and Rene-Levesque). course you could always go the Cage aux Sports .. there’s one right at the Bell Centre (get there early if it’s a home game). the added plus there is you’ll get to enjoy 8 free wings on the house if we score 5 goals or more. those are two of my favs, but there are many options.

  62. Edwardo says:

    For sure, Team 990 just said Huet is in.

  63. Habs_008 says:

    That wouldnt be fair to Huet. Huet plays a bad game he is sitting for 3 or 4 games. Price plays a bad game and he starts the next one? Not cool, play Huet.

  64. Shobud says:

    Everyone is all shook up about hossa and maybe someone else.. If we make changes now you better start praying.. Add guys now and we won’t make it past the first round..I don’t understand people..The team we have has us in a tie for fisrt place and they want to make changes..It just don’t make sense..I pray Bob does not make a deal

  65. Hoegarden says:

    I should add that Cedric is leading the ECHL.

  66. wd40 says:

    i had the same feeling listening to him yesterday. unless he really is the ultimate take-it-as-it-comes human being, he seemed almost impossibly content despite the flurry of rumours and uncertainty around his name.

  67. ONTARIO HAB says:

    i agree but i heard that huet is in

  68. Habs_008 says:

    I actually like that trade for Hossa…. I think Hossa will break his playoff funk if he comes to our team. He is a great player. And getting Hossa for 2 players who possible/more then likely will sign somewhere else next year, Wow Gainey knows what he is doing. I would take One Hossa over a Ryder/Strait. Ryder is starting to pick it up now. But what happens when this streak ends?

  69. Ian G Cobb says:

    Drop your handle for a more positive one would be nice. We definitely need a better face off man. How about ” I’ll Take The Draw”—Ian

  70. HotHabs says:

    Yes, interesting. But, some stats (like that one) don’t tell the whole story. Solid team play is the best way to keep a lead through the 3rd period – something Habs were missing last night.

    enjoying the high’s & enduring the lows of being a Habs fan

  71. Habhopeful says:

    Our defense SUCKED tonite, and i dont like to bring them down, cause they’ve amazing this year, but last night was our whole defenses game worst of the season, markovs bad clearing attempt which led to ruutu’s goal, komi’s shi**y pass which led to malkins breakaway goal, which markov shouldn’t have bothered going back to get the puock, he knew the penalty was over and malkin was out and he was on his way back to cover malkin but instead hesitated to try to retrieve the puck, there was bad deflections which lead to goals, im not sticking up for huet because he didnt play good, he knows he didnt either, btu we still need this goalie tandem, our secondary scoring is starting to come back into play, and what can i say about ryder 4G,1A in 3 games and he is hitting HARD! which is very good, it looks like he is regaining his touch, and im glad for him but i still think this team needs some touching whether we’ve won a game or lost a game unlike some people here who are back and forth.

    “Like, you can’t get a girl pregnant when she’s on top man, I mean, its gravity…Just can’t happen.”

    -Jason Segel

  72. Sulemaan says:

    View from the peanut gallery, here are my five cents:

    (1) It’s great to see Koivu and Ryder clicking again. We need them especially when Kovalev’s line has an off-night since they cannot be expected to score every single game.

    (2) O’Byrne did make some mistakes but he’s a young defencemen and will take time to learn. Just like Komisarek made some major gaffes when he started. The downside with going with youth is that you have to bear with all the growing pains. Otherwise we can have Brisebois in the lineup. No? My sentiments exactly.

    (3) Huet may have had an off-game but he came in the previous game when the team was down 3-0 and won. Everyone was singing his praises. We must be demanding fans as we have short memory spans. The Habs goaltending is fine. Price and Huet make a good combination.

    (4) Let’s cool all this talk of being a Stanley Cup contender. We’re on our way but we stil have a way to go. There are still 20 games left in the season and the race is still very tight. If the Habs hit a 5 game losing streak we could be on the bubble. Let’s stay focussed on our main goal of making the playoffs. Anything after that is gravy.

    (5) I love the passion of the fans but just because the team loses one game we shouldn’t demand the entire roster be traded, waived, demoted and the coaching staff be fired. The season is a marathon and not a sprint. Thank God the fans (including myself) don’t run the team. If we did, our best player this year would have been traded last year for a bag of pucks.

  73. Shobud says:

    Lets be honest about it.. Everyone is, we need this and nsix or seveneed that..Lets fase facks..You score four goals you shold win a game in the NHL..I hear how Huet was not at fault..How many goals has he let in ,in the last five games..At least fifteen and Price has let in six or seven..Does that not tell you anything..Its not that Price is not getting the shots as they are about the same every game..Like it or not Huet is not doing the job

  74. Shobud says:

    Come on Sulemaan be honest..two or three soft goals every game he plays..I am one that does not want a trade, and have said that many times but its time to make a change in goalers..We would have been in first if those goals did not go in

  75. Habhopeful says:

    I’m not one of them, i just think and always have thought we need a Little tweaking, I love this team and will stick by them no matter win or lose, i was just saying our d had the worst game of the year but they’ll learn becuase they’ve been amazing all year, i think our goalies are fine, defense is awesome and our offense is very good…but some of people here are pretty annoying with there “fire this, fire that, trade this, trade that”, everytime we lose a game and when we win, everyone’s on top of the world…this WHOLE TEAM! is who brought us this close to 1st place, and its cause both of our goalies, not one! BOTH! its our strong core of defense thats brought us this far and its our Strong offence…we have 2 20+ goal scorers and and 4 or more who are on pace to crack 20+ goals and we have 6 40+ point players on our team ottawa also has 6 and detroit has 5…So maybe we should live and die by our sword and keep this team intact, unless gainey finds some holes in our games and makes a move…Until then everyone should settle down just a tad, if only we can win em all…

    “Like, you can’t get a girl pregnant when she’s on top man, I mean, its gravity…Just can’t happen.”

    -Jason Segel

  76. showey47 says:

    I know, i’ve been saying the same thing, people are convinced we need huet down the stretch and for the playoffs. People forget that huet had 50 career nhl games and no playoff experience when he stole theo’s job. Price can easily do the same thing. It was this time last year when a 22 year old halak carried this team to within one win of making the playoffs, when our #1 goalie blew another third period lead against the laffs. I would have no problem moving huet in order to address some other team needs. A price/halak duo would be no worse than keeping huet around.

  77. mrstewart61 says:

    Good post.
    The Habs goalies have faced the 5th most shots-per-game in the league. The TEAM must tighten up defensively in the next 20 games.

  78. habfan53 says:

    I agree you basically said the same as I did in an earlier post.
    As for the 5 game loss that is also true look at Philly 3 weeks ago they were a lock now if the season ended last night they would be out.

    Re: Huet/Price combo i think the only team with a better one is Ottawa with Osgood and Hasek AND THEY lost 5/6 in a row

  79. Rogie30 says:

    Neither is Price, maybe Bob has to add to his deadline list.

  80. habfan53 says:

    Just some pre trade deadline thoughts.

    I looks like Ryder is coming out of his year long slump 4 goals in the last 3 games. He has also been laying out the body more (great hit on Gonchar last night). He, Lapierre and Streit seam to work well together so that If and it isa big IF Gainey does not get the impact player he wants FOR THE PRICE he wants Ryder could pick up the slack .

  81. piche says:

    While I agree that Huet had a bad game last night the reason we are in a fight for 1st place instead of 8th right now is a direct result of our play from late December to early January.

    Price’s last game of the year was Dec 23rd (Dallas)
    Price was sent down on Jan 8th.
    Price was brought up on Feb 4rth.

    Huet played all of the games between Dec 24th and Feb 5th. His record was something like 11-6 over that stretch with 2 first stars (game stealers) and 2 second stars.

    Nothing against Price but Huet has proved his worth. His last few starts do not change this. If you don’t think we can sign him for next year then fine… but if he can be had at the right price I am sure that Gainey wouldn’t hesitate.

    And folks talking about losing to Carolina in the playoffs beying Huet’s fault… that is ridiculas. We lost to Carolina because Williams carved out Koivu’s eye. And they went on to win the cup.

  82. Rogie30 says:

    Then why would we bother. Do you know what leadership and grit on a team is? Go back to our last Cup, 1993, when we had a young team for the most part, and added Damphousse and Muller, whatever you call those type of players, thats the type we seem to need now. I consider us a fairly skilled but soft team, just go to ther hockey sites,as my opinion is the majority. We also will be lucky to win a couple of playoff GAMES, depending on who we play first. If its a team like New Jersey, Brodeur will send us home early because we dont have a goalie of his calibre, and playoff hockey is about goaltending, defense and timely goals and discipline, none of which we have shown lately. Of corse we are young, another reason why we shouldnt expect the unexpected.

  83. Rogie30 says:

    Thayts true, when he stinks, its usually quickly. Those stats, lmao.

  84. Rogie30 says:

    If they trade Pleks, which they better not, I,d jump off my porch.

  85. G-Man says:

    Let’s call last night another FIMO. The D and Huet played one of their worst games in a long while. Let’s get fired up for BG’s big night. The man was so good when he played that the league created the Selke trophy for him. Being a Hall of Famer is not just about how many you scored during your career; it’s also about how many opportunities you stifled with intelligent play. BG was probably the best shut down player I’ve ever seen.

    Gilbert

  86. Shobud says:

    Huet did not lead us there.. The team did.. You should not have to score five and six goals to win a game

  87. wd40 says:

    uhhh… i think you mean Detroit. :)

  88. Sulemaan says:

    Really – the Dogs are playing the Marlies this Sunday @ 4pm. Where are you going to be?

  89. idle says:

    I’m down with that. This has been a fun season to watch and a fun season to talk about the next day at work with all your idiot Leaf fan co-workers :)

  90. Scotty90 says:

    I think its time to send Latendresse to Hamilton and bring up either Chips or Grabs. Right now Lats is more a liability than anything. In a year or two he may become the big forward that we have all been waiting for but I think he needs to work on a couple things including his skating. It would be nice if he used he size and muscle a bit more and give out the big hits… but he doesn’t! You’d think he would to make up for his lacking in other areas! I want him to stay with the organisation buut he needs to further develop before he is given a regular spot on the team. He’s still very young and will benefit from a stint in the AHL. Lats compared to Leclair (born 1969)

    John Leclair

    according to stats, Leclair started to flourish with Mtl in the 92-93 season at age 23, getting 44 pts. with the Flyers, he doubled his production in the 95-96 season (age 26).

    1987-88 U. of Vermont NCAA 31 12 22 34 62
    1988-89 U. of Vermont NCAA 18 9 12 21 40
    1989-90 U. of Vermont NCAA 10 10 6 16 38
    1990-91 U. of Vermont NCAA 33 25 20 45 58
    1990-91 Montreal Canadiens NHL 10 2 5 7
    1991-92 Fredericton Canadiens AHL 8 7 7 14
    1991-92 Montreal Canadiens NHL 59 8 11 19
    1992-93 Montreal Canadiens NHL 72 19 25 44
    1993-94 Montreal Canadiens NHL 74 19 24 43
    1994-95 Montreal Canadiens NHL 9 1 4 5
    1994-95 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 37 25 24 49
    1995-96 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 82 51 46 97
    1996-97 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 82 50 47 97
    1997-98 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 82 51 36 87
    1998-99 Philadelphia Flyers NHL 76 43 47 90

    Lats was born in May 1987…. so he’s 20 years old… here are his stats:

    2006-07 Montreal Canadiens NHL 80 16 13 29
    2007-08 Montreal Canadiens NHL 58 14 6 20

    In my opinion… we keep him and develop him to his potential. Habs need to be patient.

  91. Rogie30 says:

    Think you missed my point, Huet has played beyond his expectations here with little NHL seasoning, but thanks for correcting me.

  92. Shobud says:

    I agree.. If one does not step it up they should bring up Halak.. He got us to the playoffs last year except for the last game that Huet played

  93. Bouleau noir says:

    Price has a big frame supported by legs of steel and is already technically superb,… I like the fact that he graduated on a year where our team as showned crowd pleasing features and more successes than expected and has thus avoided the ellegitimate expectations which would have been trust upon him to act as a saviour of an impotent and fragile team.

    It was clear for me that the better our veteran goaly and team performed the better it would be for Price’s growth and gradual mastery of his art.

    An ideal scenario was concocted by Gainey for our franchised protege and Huet’s class and supportive attitude substantiated it into reality,… couldn’t have asked for a better situation… a situation that Gainey will seek too maintained until the end of the season,.. of course.

  94. idle says:

    I think the threads should be locked for 6 hours after a loss to let the biggest whiners cool down a bit before posting. It always seems to go from the appocalyps right after the game to disaster a few hours after the game to disappointment the next day.

  95. Rogie30 says:

    But we dont.

  96. idle says:

    I could not agree with you less that Price fans are logical. I am not pro Huet or anti Price, but the ‘price fans’ (as you put it) took a first year goalie, a goalie who had only played a handful of career AHL games (even though they were important ones) and tried to make him into an instant superstar. Wanted to turn the team over to him in the first month of the season when he looked good in his first few starts and even after he has shown that he still has some growing to do they still want to hand the team over to him after every bad game Huet has. How is that logical? That is thinking with your heart not your mind.

    Thankfully the management of this team is doing what is right for Price and for the TEAM not what is right for the fans.

  97. Ed says:

    He will bounce back. He actually had a 10 game stretch from Nov 16 to Dec 4, in which he went a -12 in total. He was even in the +/- in one game, and was a minus in the other 9 games. It’s almost impossible to believe, but it did happen. Even the good ones have bad nights.

  98. idle says:

    Ah.. the few common sense posts scattered about the junk is what keeps me reading here.

  99. 24 Cups says:

    Idle – I don’t want to ruin your day but I happen to know for a fact that Sulemaan’s comments are written and posted by his wife. He’s busy changing diapers and making formula while she is enlightening us about our beloved Habs. Just thought you should know.

    The Original 24 Cups

  100. coutNY says:

    I was surprised to see LeClair played 59 games during the 91-92 season….

  101. idle says:

    Watching every game does not make what you say accurate. Are you sure you are being objective or are you just seeing things through the eyes of a Price fan?

    I’m not making an attack, I really am just asking if you are being objective or not. In earlier posts you said that Huet has never accomplished anything with us and said he is a good for nothing. How can you possibly think that about a goalie who was an absolute stand-out in his first season with us and unquestionably the best goalie in the league over the second half of the 05/06 season and then followed it up with an All Star performance in the first half of the next season.

    Blame him for the Carolina series if it makes you feel better but he and Kovalev were the only reason the team even made it to Carolina and won a couple against a team that obviously went on to win the Cup. We were a team that just scraped into the playoffs riding the back of Huet.

    If you are not happy with him this season I can accept that. But why do you have to trash on him and make things up about him having no success here just to prove your point? I was not on this forums last season and don’t know if you were or not but if so I would love to have read your assessment of Kovalev back then.

  102. idle says:

    Well bring her on here anytime she wants to add some calm to the storm.

  103. Sulemaan says:

    Steve – I told you not to tell anyone! :-)

  104. HotHabs says:

    There seems to be a fair amount of controversy concerning the play and value of Huet on this forum. I’m wondering how you would rate Huet based on overall team value, stats compared to other “top” goalies (eg., win %, save %), and consistency this season. (CAUTION: some thought may be required for this exercise)

    Using the following scale, how would you rate Huet based on the above categories:

    – excellent
    – very good
    – good
    – average
    – below average
    – stinker

    Where on the scale do you rate Huet?
    (this is simply an opinion poll using some rough criteria, but I’m curious)

    enjoying the high’s & enduring the lows of being a Habs fan

  105. The Teacher says:

    In all fairness, he was really injured during that time.

  106. Sulemaan says:

    Timo – are you getting all soft/mushy on me man? Thanks for the kind words (I think). ;-)

  107. Rogie30 says:

    I sometimes think that Price is some kind of bigger than life person, and so far, though it is his rookie year, I see alot of holes in his game. We better make sure who we annoint as “the next one”, as what I noticed Tuesday against the Rangers was a goalie that coundnt even keep us in the game early on, and it was Huet that held the fort. Whoever takes charge, fine, but one of them Must step it up, or our long awaited trip to the playoffs will be a blink of the eye.

  108. HotHabs says:

    I think it was Sydor, not Gonchar.

    enjoying the high’s & enduring the lows of being a Habs fan

  109. Bouleau noir says:

    The previous game’s exploits was still lingering in their mind,… they were too relaxed and played poor D as a consequence,.. now that the history book is close saturday will be a game played on familiar territory.

  110. idle says:

    “seriously – everyone who states we need a different player needs to propose a solution.”

    Can we adjust that to say “seriously – everyone who states we need a different player needs to propose a plausible solution”

  111. Ed says:

    That was the suspicion at the time, but he continued to play. I don’t know why they would play someone who was injured for such a period of time, or if the injury was ever confirmed, but I would bet that you are right.

  112. Sulemaan says:

    Thanks idle.

  113. idle says:

    Just to clarify are we talking about his play this season only? Or his play overall?

    As for his play this season only I rate him as good. He had a great stretch of 15 games for this team that is a solid reason why we are still fighting for first yet he has been inconsistent at times and suffered some mental lapses it seems.

    His play overall I rate him as Very Good. Close to excellent actually but only his lack of playoff success (and opportunities really) would hold him back from an excellent rating. It is one thing to be excellent at times during the regular season but unless you can do it consistently and step it up even more when it counts the most in the playoffs then you are not a top level goalie.

    I do still believe that Huet has the capability to be one of those goalies, but I don’t know if he could do it consistently year in year out.

  114. Sulemaan says:

    Two or three per game might be a stretch Pete. I also remember when Roy would let in a crappy goal in many games. One’s from long range as I recall.

    I’m not about to compare Huet to Roy but every goal let’s in a bad goal here or there. I remember when Price got sent down to Hamilton and Huet played very well during that stretch.

    I honestly believe that Huet and Price push each other to be better. Better that than two goaltenders who can’t stand each others guts. Opinion of one my friend.

  115. Shobud says:

    I rate him Average..Too many soft goals

  116. Shobud says:

    I like Lats..He will turn out OK..Did you see that Lapierre droped the gloves last night..First time I have seen that and he gave the guy a beating..I think lats will do the same very soon and that will be a big moment for him

  117. wd40 says:

    Based on his stats alone:

    18th in Wins
    18th in GAA
    11th in SV%

    Narrowing the field to goalies who have faced > 1000 shots (of which there are only 27)

    18th in Wins
    14th in GAA
    17th in SV%

    my vote, based on your rating system: good

    And to people who complain about the incessant switching of goaltenders and a clear #1… let’s look at Detroit. Osgood (33 games) and Hasek (30 games) basically split the games this year (they don’t even figure in the 1000+ shot) goalies, and they’re doing pretty darn good as a team, and individually. I don’t see what’s wrong with goaltending tandems.

  118. habitual says:

    I agree with Idle, though the only metric to focus on is this year.

    His overall rating is good. Some games he has been excellent, but it’s that consistency thing. For these sorts of conversations to be of value there has to be a fairness aspect, and i would note in fairness to Huet, all the top goalies this year have had stretches where they were off. I would also point out that like last night, the goalie suffers when the team in front takes a period or the night off.

    But no question, if Huet plays like he has we have a chance to advance only to the second round, not all the way. He needs to elevate his game.

  119. HotHabs says:

    Exactly right! I posted after the euphoric win Tuesday and said the same thing at the end my post. The team will still lose games, but their character and team effort will win a lot more games. Last night was a dull one for too many players (not just Huet). It was a lesson about playing smart and hard against good teams. The Pens are a good team and they capitalized on some sloppy play. Habs need to apply that lesson and focus on Saturday’s game. A win on BG night would be great!

    enjoying the high’s & enduring the lows of being a Habs fan

  120. Shobud says:

    Oh I agree..One I can take,two is hard, but three is going too far..And it not like its the first time It seems every game..I posted yesterday and said that Huet did a great job,but now he knows he can do it then show it.. He turns around and blows it last night..That five hole is like a big neon sign to guys now

  121. Rogie30 says:

    And you are an idiot, and if thats you in the picture, respectfully an idiot.

  122. wd40 says:

    on a completely unrelated note, i’ll be in Halifax this weekend and am wondering if it’s likely i’ll find a sports bar that will have the Habs game on Saturday night?

  123. krob1000 says:

    There is nothing wrong with goaltending tandems as long as the goalies agree that there is nothing wrong with goaltending tandems. Confidence is right up there with poistioning and reflexes for a goalie as a vital ingredient for success. Some goalies understand the need for tandems and others take it personally and allow it to eat away at them.

    PRice is young enough to understand I believe and Huet is thankful for a late blooming career and has never played a hgue load anyway so I think in our case we have guys whho can thrive in this system. They do need to focus and work hard at practice though when they are not playing so as to not go cold but they seem to be managing quite well. Goaltending has not cost us nearly as many games as silly mental mistakes have. Huet has done some damage to himself during his wandering days but (knocking on wood so hard my hand may bleed) hopefuly they are over.

  124. NightRyder says:

    RE: Huet.

    Does anyone else here sometimes move beyond the hard, fast notion of judging players based solely on stats and numbers, and into the more ethereal “He just doesn’t feel right”?

    I’ve watched this team since Dryden was a pup. And our backbone has always been goaltending. And somehow, some way, you just “knew” when a goalie was a stud. I always had the feeling with Dryden. Lost it for many years until Roy came along. There’s just an indefinable confidence you get from certain players. The day Roy was traded, that aura surrounding our franchise seemed to dissipate.

    Right or wrong or just plain out there, Carey Price inspires that type of confidence. I know players feed off that stuff too. He is the type of goalie that can carry a team, he’s shown it in big games at previous levels. Huet is a terrific goalie, I just don’t get the notion he’s a big-game goalie.

    However it works out, I’d like to see Price carry the torch in the playoffs. Both he and Huet play much better when they are the definite No.1. There’s an old saying: if you have two goalies, you have no goalies.

    I really hope Huet is moved by the deadline. Price is our future. Let’s start the future now.

  125. Habhopeful says:

    This is stupid….Win a game, “keep this team don’t make trades, stick with this team”…Lose a game, “trade X, trade Y, trade Z”… everyones back and forth, its ridiculous, were not gonna win all the games we have left…****!

    “Like, you can’t get a girl pregnant when she’s on top man, I mean, its gravity…Just can’t happen.”

    -Jason Segel

  126. showey47 says:

    Interesting stat, price has never blown a third period lead this season.

  127. HotHabs says:

    I wouldn’t base the decision to keep Ryder on a solid check to a player in a vulnerable position. Glad he’s scoring again – trade value increasing game by game!

    enjoying the high’s & enduring the lows of being a Habs fan

  128. nightmare_49 says:

    Hear! Hear! or whatever , the Habs talk about developement in the system and they keep Lats with the big team is a double cross to many of the prospects in the system (players talk among themselves often) . In Tampa Gainey said that we have players that can be sent down to develope and i thought of Lats right away. He’ll get more ice time and improve on so many aspects of the game he lacks. He’s not improving here. I’m with you , Scotty.

  129. HotHabs says:

    Totally disagree!!! The Mtl. goalie tandem is a very good one. We need both of these guys. Ya can’t put the blame on Huet for the loss. The D was lackluster and made critical mistakes which lost the game for them (atypically Markov & Komi). I suppose if you had been in the net that double deflection shot would’ve never gone in, eh??? Gimme a break! And, let me remind those with amnesia that it was Price who got the hook last game, and Huet who saved his bacon!

    enjoying the high’s & enduring the lows of being a Habs fan

  130. Shobud says:

    Who won the three games last week.. one goal, a shutout and three goals..Huet blew three soft one last night alone..Bottom line..When you score four times you should win..Not always but you should win

  131. showey47 says:

    Well, would you rather play an injured markov, but healthy enough to play or a healthy brisebois? I pick markov

  132. Shiloh says:

    Grabovski is aon fire in Hamilton. If we make a deal for an impact player, I think he will be called up – unless he’s part of the deal. I’m wondering if Plekanec could be part of a huge deal – I don’t want to lose him if that’s the case.

  133. Shobud says:

    And if we had Brodeur we would send teams home early

  134. showey47 says:

    I think pleky is untouchable unless someone like vinny comes into play. I would like to give grabovski another shot, the guy obviously has high end talent. I just wonder about his upper body strength, he just seems to get pushed off the puck easily at the nhl level.

  135. showey47 says:

    gainey press conference is on RIS and damn it i need someone to translate to english

  136. habfan53 says:

    OK everybody take a DEEP breath, in, out, in, out thats it it.
    Everybody was on such a high after Tuesdays game and today everyone is in the doldrums. RELAX rhere are 20 more REGULAR season games you are all going to give yourselves hear attacks.

    Goaltending was weak tonight No blame on the first it went off TWO Canadiens, Huet should have had the second and thrird allthough I’m still wondering what Streit was trying to do. The fourth Huet needed to make that stop but give Malkin credit for a good shot and the last was a PP.

    The defence tonight was no where. Markov gives the puck to Ruutu for his goal, Komisarek throws a blind pass to Markov who has already left the point because Malkin has left the penalty box Malone is left to walk in.

    The forwards gave the Pittsburgh defence and goaltending a night off. I mean 21 shots on net in no period are there double digits.

    This edition of the Montreal Canadiens is a VERY GOOD team for them to win they ALL have to contribute, watch the others back that did not happen tonight and you know what it probably won’t happen 2 or 3 more times this year.

    On the possitive side WOW what great hustle and speed by Sergei to get the puck out to Saku who is playing his best hockey in over a month.

    Ryder shooting the puck again.

    The continued improvement of Gorges and O’Byrne.

    As for all you Huet, Smolinsky, Brisebois, Latendresse, Ryder bashers (you get the picture)out there how many games have you played in the NHL? AHL? ECHL?? none ???? That’s what I thought

  137. wd40 says:

    dang i don’t get RIS…

  138. wd40 says:

    i totally see what you mean here however we need to caution ourselves. from my perspective, in the end, if Price inspires confidence, his numbers will reflect that. we just need to be careful we’re not letting, how much we so badly want that aura to return, confuse hope with reality.

  139. Rogie30 says:

    Disturbed. Dont like my posts, move on, slide on by boy.

  140. Shiloh says:

    My thoughts regarding Plekanec are the same as yours. He’s a name that doesn’t get thrown into the mix unless we’re talking about a very big deal – and Vinnie would qualify as that.

  141. piche says:

    Huet played all of the games between Dec 24th and Feb 5th. His record was something like 11-6 over that stretch with 2 first stars (game stealers) and 2 second stars.

    A month later and he is no good. What gives? Why do you think we are in the position we are in? You have to give Huet some of the credit for this.

    I am pretty impartial to Huet and excided about the futre with Price but based on the comments you would think Huet had lead us to the bottom of the conference instead of the top.

    That said, I am not very comfortable with either goalie at the moment.

  142. Sulemaan says:

    Little one is coming along well Dean. Need to get a picture of her in her new Habs gear up here. We also need to catch another Bulldogs game together when they play the Marlies again my friend.

  143. HABZ 24 says:

    oh man huey let in a few softys, if not for that we’d have won that game.komiserick looked to be missing in action too. price should get rid of that fruity garth brooks pic on his mask and paint a big indian cheif warrior on it and develop that attitude to go with it,let him play sat too and crush the jackets into the ice.go habz go.

  144. Rogie30 says:

    Maybe ite important to remember who Huet is and where he came from. When the Theodore tragedy was unfolding, we needed a goalie in the worst way, and Aebeischer was a disaster. He looked like a fish out of water. Wasnt it Gainey that made the trade with Colorado to get him? Then when that didnt work out, we sent prospect Garon to Los Angeles as part of the Huet trade, correct? Huet was a part time goalie there. And look at well he has performed, in the biggest hockey market there is, never having had this responsibility before, he became more than just the stop gap we had envisioned him to be, even making an All Star appearance. So if fans dont like Huet, remember what we had here in Theodore and Garon, and remember who let them go.

  145. Rogie30 says:

    Dont you have a missing IQ?lmao.

  146. cautiousoptimist says:

    To be fair, Aebischer’s fairly solid play and salary were a vast improvement over Theodore’s abysmal play and $6M salary. That was an excellent trade. And no one could have foreseen Garon breaking out – even if we had, I’d take All-Star Huet over Edmonton’s solid Garon any day.

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  147. NightRyder says:

    I like ‘em both. I just don’t think Huet’s good enough to get us over the hump. I don’t know that Price is either, but his track record suggests he can. We’ll know what the team thinks in a few days! I think you need one defined No. 1 goalie who will play 65 or so games. Roy was at his best when he didn’t have Hayward snivelling about playing time.

  148. Habs93 says:

    And look who we got as qa throw in…..

  149. HotHabs says:

    re Price getting us over the hump: “his track record suggests he can”

    Huet’s track record also suggests he can be a winning goalie. It was mentioned earlier on another post that through Montreal’s best play of the season from mid-December to early Feb, Huet carried the load and came out a winner, even earning game stars and NHL accolades for his great performances throughout that period.

    Remember, Price still has much to prove at the elite level of the NHL, in Montreal no less. He’s young and has shown signs of greatness, but he’s not ready to take control immediately. Patience people. Look at the standings and take great pride in where we place – who’da thunk it at the start of the season???

    Ultimately, the team needs both Huet & Price to combine for a good season finish and subsequently a strong showing in the playoffs. If Gainey decides to make a major move or just some tweaking, I hope a big forward (shut-down or power) takes priority over the crease.

    enjoying the high’s & enduring the lows of being a Habs fan

  150. Sulemaan says:

    Thanks Mark. I agree they definitely need to put the screws on their defensive game. Run and gun only gets you so far.

    BTW – A good friend of mine (Kevin) works as ATC in Moncton. Small world, eh?

  151. ebk says:

    Habs had Huet before Aebeischer. Theodore was moved after Huet had taken his job.

  152. N.B.habs fan says:

    Hi Suleman,Glad to here your familly are doing fine.It might be a good idea to put a picture of you little one in habs gear ,tired of looking at your mug shot ,just kidding .I love your post you are not long winded and when you speek it is allways positive towards the team.I also dont blame the goaldies for the losses ,it takes the hole team……

  153. Rogie30 says:

    I know alot about hockey, more than you forgot.

  154. bantamcc says:

    Habs fan Since ’54…

    Well I guess lotsa room on Stanley Cup bandwagon this morning ! That wagon’s seating changes like the temperature in this city…

    BTW, not sure if anyone else has this problem, but I received 22 identical emails from HabsInsideOut server this morning. Strange…. Maybe there is a burp in the time/space continuum and Lord Stanley’s mug will be paraded down it’s usual route sometime in June !

  155. Ian Cobb says:

    We were out played and out hustled to the puck all night. O’byrn who is going to be a great defense man in a couple of years, was brutal last night along with most of the squad. Time after time they gave it up easily all over the ice.

    At one point I looked on the bench and instead of them checking over there sticks, they were all admiring each others purses.

    Price starts Gainey night for sure, or maybe I will get the call.

    I must say that Ryder and Koivu seemed to find there hearts again.

  156. wd40 says:

    huet sucks. price sucks. carbo is an idiot.

    wow. a lot of negativity on the forum this morning. i can understand it’s disappointing to see the team lose, even 1 game, but come on, let’s be realistic. we are not going to win the remaining 20 games. we’re ranked 7th in the league, not the division! did we not just come off a 4-game winning streak (including the comeback of the millenium?) this team has managed to earn an average of 60% of the points up for grabs (1.21 points per game after 62 games) and if they can maintain that average AND continue to entertain us the way they have been, well, should we really be this negative?

    they must be hanging themselves on the Flyers fan blog.

  157. framptunes says:

    WAS IT POSSIBLE BRISEBOIS STOLE MARKOV’S JERSEY AND PLAYED LAST NIGHT BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE SORRY PATHETIC GAME PLAYED BY #79.GOT TO ONE OF HIS WORST THIS YEAR!!

  158. projectpete19 says:

    I dont know when all the Huet fans are going to wake up, he is not a #1 goalie, neither is Price yet but at least the Price fans are logical. Everyone thought Huet saved the game for us against the rangers, he let in two quick goals when the team was playing the way they were for Price, then the team woke up and started playing and everyone contributes the win to Huet.

    A #1 goalie plays a game like Lundqvist did against us when we made our comeback.

  159. projectpete19 says:

    I dont know when all the Huet fans are going to wake up, he is not a #1 goalie, neither is Price yet but at least the Price fans are logical. Everyone thought Huet saved the game for us against the rangers, he let in two quick goals when the team was playing the way they were for Price, then the team woke up and started playing and everyone contributes the win to Huet.

    A #1 goalie plays a game like Lundqvist did against us when we made our comeback.

  160. krob1000 says:

    Hossa is a legit gamer who always gives 110%…he’d instantly give Kovy’s line a run for their money as the first line.

  161. G-Man says:

    Honestly, I hope NOT. Hossa disappears in the playoffs. That’s why Ottawa traded him for Heatly. Points during the regular season are nice, but IMPACT players are supposed to turn it up in the post-season, not wind down getting ready for their first tee time.

    Gilbert

  162. Habhopeful says:

    03-04 Ottawa- 7GP,3G,1A,4P,+2
    02-03 Ottawa- 18GP,5G,11A,16P,-1
    01-02 Ottawa- 12GP,4G,6A,10P,+2

    These up here are the only times hes made it past the first round, mind you 03-04 was still only one round, plus last year atlanta got swept by the rangers and even kovalchuk only had 2 points also…

    all together in 55 playoff games he has 35 points (13G,22A)which isn’t great but isn’t a disapearing act, the guy wants to come to a stanley cup contender and obviously wants to win, hes a competitor and will be willing to play hard to finish his dream of winning the stanley cup and i think he can help, obviously hes a very talented player and i guess well find out if he does come…

    “Like, you can’t get a girl pregnant when she’s on top man, I mean, its gravity…Just can’t happen.”

    -Jason Segel

  163. HotHabs says:

    Very good point! I don’t think there are a lot of goaltending coaches that have won many accolades. Maybe it has something to do with the view that the best performers often don’t make the best teachers? I think there’s some truth to that statement.

    enjoying the high’s & enduring the lows of being a Habs fan

  164. HotHabs says:

    Yes, that is often the case! Gretzky is a perfect example of that, and he was great not merely good.

    enjoying the high’s & enduring the lows of being a Habs fan

  165. Rogie30 says:

    Leadership and grit.

  166. showey47 says:

    well if thats the theory we are going by, the devils goalie coach is glen”chico”resch. This guy won jack squat in his career. This is like blaming carbo for the defensive blunders tonight. I know we are all frustrated by huet blowing another 2 points, but lets look forward to saturday night. All the coaches can do is teach the theory, its up to the players/goalies to execute.

  167. usversusthem says:

    Well, we outscored them in the second period… if we can do the same in the third, and Huet can forget to allow these terrible goals that happen when his stick is on vacation and his pads are wide open…

  168. MNaslund26 says:

    the canadiens look terrible tonight. they are definitely nursing a hangover from their miraculous comeback on tuesday. i thought maybe that would have invigorated them for tonight but instead they look tired and sluggish.

    oh higgins just scored as i was writing this. so uhhh… forget it. i hopefully stand corrected.

  169. usversusthem says:

    Let’s see if Atlanta will take those four and a pick for Hossa. That would work pretty well for us, huh.

  170. planet habs says:

    Maybe Gainey will also trade for a goalie. We need 1 who doesn’t CONSTANTLY let in SOFT GOALS!
    And why the hell is LATENDRESSE playing? he’s horrible, and when he get’s a chance, HE’ FANS ON IT, ALL THE TIME!
    If he didn’t have a french last name, he wouldn’t be in the NHL. too bad the media runs this team! What’s the matter Carbo? afraid of the big bad media? Latenderness is KILLING THIS TEAM!

  171. Shobud says:

    Forget about Hossa..Get a goaler that can stop all the soft goals..

  172. planet habs says:

    I pray to god that Huet gets traded! can’t stop 1 lousy shot!!!!!!!!!!

  173. TripleX says:

    HUET….PLEASE MAKE ONE SAVE! Five-hole…STICK OFF THE ICE AGAIN! WTF!

  174. T-roy West says:

    Come on guys, all you have to do is watch out for one player – Malkin. How hard could it be, seriously!

  175. TripleX says:

    CARBO!!! Call a time-out and PULL HUET!!

  176. TripleX says:

    Carbo and his stupid loyalty to VETERANS. Smokes, Breezer and Huet, it really has to stop.

  177. planet habs says:

    HUET COST US THE GAME! Gainey better trade for a goalie, because we have NONE!
    he couldn’t stop a single shot tonight. bot is he pathetic. Bring up Halak and send Huet to another team, or the minors! If we don’t get better goaltending, we’re going nowhere. can’t keep on giving up 5 goals/ game, especially at home, and expect to win

  178. von says:

    What in the world was Markov thinking when he didn’t take that easy pass from Komisarek??? It gave the puck right away to Pittsburgh and he didn’t catch him anyways! Bonehead play that ended up costing us the game.

    Man Huet, you don’t know whether to love the guy or hate him. I have thought of the perfect word for him: Inconsistent. One game he stands on his head, the next he’s letting in a few soft goals.

    I’d be betting on seeing Price on Saturday night.

  179. TripleX says:

    If Huet, Smokes and Lats are in the lineup on Saturday….I AM GOING TO GO APESH*T! PLEASE CARBO USE SOME COMMON SENSE!

  180. PGHABS says:

    Maybe Carbo dislikes you.
    Carbo has been the best coach in the NHL this year, then lose a close one and you cr@p all over him? WOW

  181. Shobud says:

    I see other people are beginning to see what I said a month ago Huet is not a good goaler and would not bring anything on the trade market..Why they won’t give Halak a chance I don’t know..That should have been a 4-2 game habs tonight..You can get Hossa and three others and it won’t help if they can score goals like that on us

  182. TripleX says:

    WOOHOO….BLUEJACKETS WIN IN SHOOTOUT!

  183. planet habs says:

    Latendresse CAN’T BE ALLOWED TO PLAY ANOTHER GAME THIS YEAR! HE ABSOLUTELY IS AN AHL PLAYER AT BEST! HE MUST GO TO HAMILTON, RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE BRING UP HALAK AND PLAY HIM! SOMEONE PLEASE TAKE HUET(that sack of crap) OFF OUR HANDS! He’s an AHL goalie !
    maybe, ECHL. take that back. he’s a junior goalie.

  184. RudeMood19 says:

    Huet gave up three softies tonight. My problem with him is not that he gives up softies, well that does annoy me but whatever all goalies give them up, but that Huet always seems to give up goals in key situations where you hope and sort of expect your goalies to to make saves.

    Tonight was a prime example, Gonchar’s goal HAD to be saved. I’m not saying we should trade Huet, but somewhere along the lines I have to think it must frustrate management and fans alike with his inconsistency.Plus, I have to think there would be interest too.

    I hope Price starts the next game.

    So wow, the East is jammed up top. NJ, Mtl, and Pitt have 75 points while ottawa has 76. Montreal better start winning these games at home.
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    1. February 19th, 2008, a day which will live in sublimity.

  185. Hoegarden says:

    Back to reality;
    here’s a repeat of my post this afternoon.

    QUOTE Penguins are very hot of late with their PP.
    13 goals in 43 attempts in their last 9 games or a 30.25% success. Gonchar leads the NHL with 35 points on the PP and Malkin has 34. On our side, Kovy has 34.

    Our goalies in the minors are currently doing very well.
    Halak now leads the AHL with a saving percentage of .928 and Cedric Desjardins is ranked #1 in the ECHL with his .935 sp. UNQUOTE

    The hottest PP in the league usually means “stay out of the box”.
    Cristobal fails to prove once again that he really is not a #1 goalie.
    One softie I can live with. I reckon there were 3 tonight.
    It’s getting late to bring these guys up and I still do not understand why Halak was never given the chance to show that what he did last year was no fluke.

    Markov had a really bad night.

    Let’s recoup for Saturday.

  186. RudeMood19 says:

    Comments like these make me wonder how anyone, not just the people on this site, takes you seriously.

    Carbo has become a very good coach since last year and he’s improving with each game, hence the 33 – 20 – 9 record.

    Use logic before writing.
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    1. February 19th, 2008, a day which will live in sublimity.

  187. PGHABS says:

    Yes, Carbo is the best coach in the NHL. We’re still one of the top teams in the east and the NHL. I don’t have a problem with that. We do seem to have a problem holding onto leads. That was Huet’s fault tonight, not Carbo’s. Only Gretzky is close to Carbo for coach of the year so far

    Carbo played Smoke tonight because Begin was hurt. I agree with anyone when they say Smoke sucks, but he’s there for depth on a checking line.

    Latendresse plays on the fourth line and he has 14 goals. That is ten more goals then most other fourth liners. Latendresse has some problem areas, but if you watch you the maple leafs or the canucks you realize he is not that bad compared to someone like Jeff Cowan, or Dominic Moore.

  188. jimbo says:

    what about the break away

  189. PGHABS says:

    and not lose ten games all year?? as if. you say carbo has no common sense, i’d say he has more common sense than you

  190. waisguy says:

    Huet’s being such a softie again.

  191. habs12345 says:

    the habs need to start setting the physical tone earlier in the game to open space for there faster skaters to create offence it seems lately theyve been waiting to get down a few goals to start banging the bodies and when they do start playing physical they gain momentum pretty fast but i wonder how good this team could be if they did it earlier in the games

  192. PGHABS says:

    it’s surprisingly difficult, obviously, he’s leading the league in points, so i guess no one has been able to stop him really, i guess that’s what makes Malkin good

  193. MNaslund26 says:

    RYDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  194. MNaslund26 says:

    why would you call someone a sack of crap?

  195. MNaslund26 says:

    HAMRLIK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  196. waisguy says:

    et le butttttttttttttttttttttttttttt 4-3 montreal

  197. Rogie30 says:

    We better get the most important part of a hockey team, the goaltending, in order, ir we will be in alot of trouble. Price stinks Tuesday, Huet comes in, now Huet stinks, its a non stop joke, and after the great win Tuesday, I was saying dont go overboard celebrating, and look what happens. A DISAPPOINTMENT on Gaineys night.

  198. Rogie30 says:

    He,s not the answer long term, and Price isnt the answer short term, so our goaltending situation is terminal.

  199. madhabsfan says:

    Nice skating Sak!!!

    Lots of people getting on that scoresheet again.

    Looking good.

  200. madhabsfan says:

    My hope for the rest of the season:

    OUT: Latendresse, Smolinski, Brisebois, and maybe Kostopoulos

    IN: Hossa, Grabovski

    Please, Bob, Please!!!

  201. idle says:

    Agree. I really have to wonder about some one here who claim to be such huge habs fans but don’t have a clue about what has happened with this team over the last 3 seasons. Maybe Planet Hab is a newbie or maybe his planet is not here on earth.

  202. joe-hab-nuno says:

    I have to admit, that was an entertaing game, alot more entertaining then those 1-0 2-1 games we were so use to watching the past ten years. Huet didn’t have his best game but the defence wasn’t too strong either. We have to play 60 min.

    Here’s my fix for that problem. Why don’t we tell the league to start the Hab games 2-0 for the other team, this way they have no choice but to start hard from the start.

  203. Hossa is Coming says:

    Man I am glad I wasnt the only one who watched last night’s game and was pissed off at Markov’s performance. Horrible! He caused at least 2 goals, if not three. I can tell there are these games where it is obvious Markov is not in the game at all, he seems somewhere else, pretending he is some far away cabin in Russia, drinking a bottle of Vodka or something. He was definatelty in “MEATHEAD ROLE” last night I was yelling at 79 for a good ten minutes after the game. Prove you are an allstar Markov! We beat ourselves last night.

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  204. Rogie30 says:

    Are you coming here or not, we just stocked all the finest winnerys with Wadka, lmao.

  205. Habhopeful says:

    Wat are you gonnna say if Price gives up crappy goals or slumps?

    “Like, you can’t get a girl pregnant when she’s on top man, I mean, its gravity…Just can’t happen.”

    -Jason Segel

  206. planet habs says:

    you can’t keep changing goalies every other game. Put in Price, and keep him in goal, even if he loses. How else will he get experience? besides, Huet is no better. PRICE SHOULD PKAY FROM NOW UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON AND IN FOR THE PLAYOFFS TOO!
    I’m sure Gainey could find a sucker who will take Huet off our hands. Bring up Halak and keep him as a backup to Price. no more of this musical goalies stuff.
    Also Gainey needs to trade for a big tough physical D man. habs defence is way too soft!

  207. Shobud says:

    Do you think other GMs have no book on Huet..You can bet there is not one team that would take him..He has had a couple of years now and can’t do it.. I agree with you give Price the ball or bring up Halak

  208. idle says:

    I don’t have a problem with your logic but I do have to ask you what has Price done to deserve that kind of treatment. I get that Huet let us down tonight but every time one of our goalies lets us down in a game our response can’t be ‘that’s it, play the other guy the rest of the way no matter what’

    The truth is there is probably a good reason that we are a 2 goalie team right now. I don’t think either goalie is ready to take on the team full time.

    Look at the good side of things though, our 2 goalies can’t be that bad if we are still in the race for first.

  209. Habsrule1 says:

    Are you bum-chums with Price?

    Give it a rest. Huet earned the # 1 spot all year. He’s having a rough patch, but Price has not exactly been lights out either.

    Go Habs Go!!

    Habsrule

  210. Shiloh says:

    I agree that Huet has to be better – even steal us a couple of games. Do we dump him now and go with Price and Halak the rest of the way? I wouldn’t mind that if we had picked up someone like Curtis Joseph (who came really cheap). I’m just not sure that we should go the rest of the way without a veteran goalie – even as a backup. But I don’t disagree with you at all.

  211. Gooner says:

    Well after reading the posts today I am sure glad that Bob Gainy is running this team! I believe if the posters were we would have traded at least half the team away today. Well they just had a bad game a few bad bounces and a few bad penalties. We will rebound the next game.

  212. RudeMood19 says:

    who starts tonight?

    1. February 19th, 2008, a day which will live in sublimity.

  213. planet habs says:

    Hockey News ranks Huet 22nd of 30 goalies
    This is for all you Huet lovers. you know the ones who didn’t mind the fact that Huet cost us getting in the playoffs last year, and the ones who didn’t mind the goal Carolina scored on a 60 ft shot, that eliminated us from the playoffs a few years ago. Also, Pierre McGuire said on the team 990: “HUET WAS TERRIBLE LAST NIGHT”. that’s all I have to say about Aebischer, ooops, I mean Huet!

  214. Rogie30 says:

    Hello Marian, can you play goal for us?

  215. TradeRyder says:

    AM REPOSTING THIS FROM EARLIER TODAY… FOR THE RELIEF OF SOME!!

    ———————————————
    Should They Still Trade Ryder?

    You may be surprised at my answer….

    At the start of the year I said they should trade him because I thought he wasn’t speedy enough to fit, and he needed to be fed the puck to score. I wanted someone else on that first line and thought there was no other place for him. I really didn’t like his last and second-last plus-minus place over two years and thought his value was as high as it could get.

    I still say I was right and if we HAD traded him and he had 12 goals at this point everyone not born in Newfoundland would agree with me.

    But all this time the one thing that sometimes made me hesitate was his 3-goal performance in the last game last year. He wanted to get to the playoffs – and more than any other Hab that key night he showed it where it counts most – on the scoreboard. Tuesday night Ryder had that same kind of game – he was in the flow, found his spots, and put it in when it counted. He may be a play-off performer. And I have to admit that given the play of Koivu and Higgins this year that having only 12 goals has to do with more than just Michael Ryder.

    And what makes it really tough is the guy is so darned likable. A class act. So should we trade him? I think if the right offer comes along, we still should. He might go on to score 30 more next year, but if on the other hand he slumps again, it will be a huge distraction, and someone like Chipchura will stay in Hamilton because of it.

    That said, I would not be upset if we kept him. His value isn’t what it was when I started the “Trade Ryder” campaign – and he has become a more complete player. What is more interesting is what Bob is thinking right now. My guess is that Bob will watch these next games very closely to see if we have the goal-scoring Ryder back which would be fabulous for a team already strong in scoring but over-reliant on one line.

    Regardless, I will drop the name TradeRyder at the trade deadline. I’m open to suggestions for another. Right now “SitSmolinski” is the front-runner. :)

    And regardless of that – way to go Michael. Great game Tuesday night.

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    Let the kids play… let the non-performers watch or walk.

  216. downeast hab says:

    Theres an old saying; you cant teach an old dog new tricks; so gainey must make a goaltending discision after this season. A trade now is not the answer, If he is going with the kids, then do it next year. What would happen if Price got hurt, Huet was gone, then look at what you have left. Big gamble. Youth seems to be in the Habs furture, so stick with it, build from this year, where ever it goes.And as I said before, COME ON RYDER.

  217. PGHABS says:

    Melanson has done an outstanding job as the Habs goaltending coach. He made Theodore a Hart and Vezina winner. He made Garon a starting goalie today. He made Huet an All-Star, and he’ll make Price a superstar. Melanson is an outstanding goalie coach.
    I agree, trade Huet while we still can, but he’s a good goalie who has given us excellent work for three years.

  218. Rogie30 says:

    Did you notice that wherever Melanson goes, the goalie left behind always plays better when he is not there? When Price was sent to Hamilton, Huet was great, and Halak plays his best in Hamilton when he is left alone. How many Vezinas did Rollie the Goalie ever win?

  219. planet habs says:

    Actually, it’s Melanson that should be fired. He’s had 3 or 4 years to improve Huet’s play, and it’s no better. Come to think of it, Price’s play last year in Hamilton, and playing for the world junior’s was great, until Melanson got a hold of him, and screwed him up. Get Patrick Roy to show Price the fundamentals. I don’t remember Melanson as a great goalie, EVER!
    And remember how well Halak played last year? why not play him alittle, and Price with the majority of games.
    just say goodbye to Huet, and thank him for nothing! getting us eliminated by Carolina, and making sure we didn’t get into the playoffs last year. So you might say, Huet is A GOOD FOR NOTHING!

  220. Habster101 says:

    I agree with you, Vid

    our defence was sloppy in our own end.

    I said it after the Ranger game that, Price should play against Pitts.
    It would give him the chance to finish where he started, and redeem himself.

    Let Huet feel good, he came in and saved the game, now give the torch back to Price so he can recover and feel good too.

    Now, Huet is feeling down and Price is still down….now we have Two Goaltenders down(mentally) and a big game on Saturday night…we could be in trouble fast…

    But, I will think positive because, after the Ranger game, they proved that they can overcome any deficit…

  221. Vid says:

    Can’t be playing catch up hockey all the time. Pens played well and deserved to win.

    Habs were sloppy or soft on defence (we allowed two 3 on 1s even though Pens did not score on either) and took some asinine penalties (Lats, Hamrlik and Kovalev come to mind). Huet was not great but I blame the 3rd Pens goal on the two defenceman who were standing around while Malone slipped in and tapped the rebound through the five hole.

    Malkin breakaway, you just saw that mistake coming a mile away.

    Some good effort from Koivu, S. Kostitsyn, Ryder & Higgs (nice redirection from kovy) but overall just terrible defence and a terrible first period allowing the Pens 15 shots on goal. I believe the Habs were not bad overall in the faceoff circle and their overall play did steadily improve after the Lapierre vs Talbot fight (a few really nasty rights delivered by Maxime).

    Overall the habs weren’t completely awful and had a chance to win it but they need to come out strong and stay strong, none of this trying to come from behind nonsense.

    Better win the next one on Gainey night.

  222. PGHABS says:

    listen HJ, you’re in the wrong forum, try googling “go leafs go” and you’ll find what you’re looking for

  223. Rogie30 says:

    Leadership and grit.

  224. planet habs says:

    But how come we can’t win at home? I can’t remember the habs in all their years, having so much difficulty winning at home. This is supposed to be a comfortable happy place for them, yet they keep on shooting themselves in the foot. And another thing, our defence is way too soft. So I guess Gainey has his work cut out for him. How about trading for a goalie, and trading Huet? He’s no longer a help, more of a hindrance, and definitely a deficit to this team’s progress. it’s up to the kids(Price, Halak, etc.) to get the job done

  225. TripleX says:

    Why Why Why?…..Is Smokes Playing? WTF?

  226. MNaslund26 says:

    begin is hurt

  227. TradeRyder says:

    No kidding…. WTF is right! It’s harder to win with that loser in the line-up.

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    Let the kids play… let the non-performers watch or walk.

  228. Rogie30 says:

    Thats why we need to tell Gainey some moves must be made, that comeback game gave some fans a false sense of security about this team, what if we lost that game. In Bob We Trust, To Make Some Good Moves.

  229. TradeRyder says:

    Play Kostopoulos… why Slackinski?????
    _____________________________________________________________
    Let the kids play… let the non-performers watch or walk.

  230. Rogie30 says:

    Again? Lets get some players on this team that stay in the lineup. fIVE MORE DAYS FOR SHOPPING, BOB.

  231. idle says:

    Huet did not cost us this game, as most of the goals he let in were bounces or heavy traffic and screens. But he certainly had a chance to save it for us tonight and he simply did not. He needed to save that Malkin break. NEEDED too. But he did not. That is the kind of save that number 1 goalie on a top level team needs to make to keep pace with the other top level teams.

    That being said, it is what it is and I am not gonna call for his head like so many others on here. It’s funny how only some players mistakes seem to anger so many of us when players like Komi and Markov get free rides because we love them the rest of the time.

  232. ColoradoHab says:

    To all those blaming Huet, you are all a**ho*es who know nothing. Huet playe well, Pittsburgh scored on a lot of lucky goals on crazy bounces. You fools who criticize him are an embarrassment to yourselves and an annoyance to knowledgeable fans on this site. Malkin’s tying goal was offside, it was close, but I’m quite sure it was offside. So the linesman may have missed one, it happens. Their winning goal was on a powerplay that was called by a refereeing crew that performed very poorly tonight. The zebras screwed this game!!! What a horrible call in a close game late in the 3rd, Hammer hit him clean and went to the box. I can excuse a referee for missing a call. Maybe he didn’t see it. But when a referee calls something that didn’t happen he should be held accountable for his poor performance. Youy can’t call what you don’t see, but if you call it, you better have seen it, and if your calling things that didn’t happen you don’t belong there and should be removed from the game.

    Good effort by Montreal, poor refereeing, bad bounces, we lost. Good effort by the Pens, lucky bounces, refereeing in their favor, they won.

    Can’t wait for next game.

    To anyone blaming Huet, You arte a major stupid, ignorant, A**ho*e.

  233. von says:

    What planet are you on???

    I think the word you are looking for is “average.” I wouldn’t say Huet cost us the game, because he didn’t. But he definitely had no part in helping them try to win.

    Bottom line is if this team is going to make it into the playoffs we need better goal tending then the performance displayed tonight. End of story.

  234. Shobud says:

    If you need glasses I have a spare pair..If that was good goaltending then you better give up watching hockey

  235. G-Man says:

    Here’s hoping our Habs start early and run the Pens out of the rink. Should be another hot game, with Malkin on fire for them and Kovalev burning it up for us. Rock on Habs!

    Gilbert

  236. Moey says:

    Good morning Dave,

    La Presse is reporting the Habs have ordered equipment for Hossa, any truth to this rumor, also the trade involves Ryder & Streit? Just heard it on CHOM.

  237. Dave Stubbs says:

    What can I say? “Rumour” is both a good and an ugly word at this time of year, and will continue to be so until next Tuesday at 3 p.m. Pat Hickey will have his ear to the ground on this and other things that no doubt will be cropping up in the hours ahead.

    Dave Stubbs

    Habs Inside/Out
    Sports Feature Writer, Montreal Gazette

     

  238. Trashknob says:

    This actually makes a lot of sense:

    Ryder and pick to Calgary for Tanguay.

    Tanguay and Streit to Atlanta for Hossa.

    hmmm

    =========================================================================
    I got 40 to 1 odds they’d make it to the cup final at the beginning of the season. WHO’S LAUGHING NOW??? KO HABS KO!!

  239. 24 Cups says:

    TK – Just looking at what you have reported, one would have to be pretty excited about the possibility of that deal. It’s not a backbreaker for the Habs. We give up two UFAs for another UFA. All our core assets stay in place. I’m trusting that the pick is not a 1st rounder because if it is then the deal is off – that’s too rich. I know we will probably re-sign Streit so he’s not as much a UFA as Huet/Ryder but he is replaceable with all of our kids on defense and Hossa would take his place on the PP. It also makes sense for Atlanta because they would have Tanguay signed for next year and could throw some money at Streit. That way they don’t lose Hossa for nothing. Finally, if this deal went down we would then have to trade for another depth defenseman to replace the role Streit can play on the back end. Dandy can’t come back and play defense during a playoff series and it would be asking a lot to bring up another kid from Hamilton. We would need a 7th defenseman for a Cup run. In an unrelated matter, something tells me that we better hang on to Grabovski. Next year, he could centre a third line with Sergi K and Lats. We would then have a checking line of Begin/Chipchura/Lapierre/Dandy

    The Original 24 Cups

  240. TripleX says:

    Please pull Huet!!!! THREE SOFT GOALS!

  241. planet habs says:

    Huet, Price. What’s the difference? neither one can stop the puck!

  242. TripleX says:

    Huet has a bad habit of letting in goals at the worst time. A real momentum killer…it matters as much WHEN you make a save. That is why he will never be a NUMBER 1 goalie. He can look like a great goalie sometimes, but then he lets in these SOFT goals. I just never feel confident when he is in goal.

  243. johnnyhab says:

    tonight should be a great paced game looking forward to it

  244. Moey says:

    Agreed, it is all speculation until we hear it from BG himself, but I guess La Presse likes to print rumors as breaking news on the front page. In all honesty, I don’t know if I am pleased about giving up anyone after the performance on Tuesday night. Whatever goes down I just hope it won’t mess with the chemistry.

    Have a good day.

  245. Shiloh says:

    I’m not going to comment on Huet – just my man LaSlowesse. When, when, when will he have to do some time in the minors like 95% of NHL players? Is he special like Gretzky or Lemieux – is this why he doesn’t need to go to the minors?Instead, he gets to slog around out there, not checking, not hitting, not shooting? Although, to be fair you can’t shoot if you can’t catch up to the puck. Send him down – NOW – and bring up Grabowski.

  246. von says:

    “Send him down – NOW – and bring up Grabovski.”

    I’m with you there brother, 100%

  247. PGHABS says:

    I think Latendresse does need to work on his skating(lots of work in fact), but as i’ve said before, he’s an excellent fourth liner, he has fourteen goals, and he should go on one of his streaks soon and hit twenty goals, which was expectd of him.

  248. JF says:

    I have a feeling the team might be too high after Tuesday’s spectacular comeback to play a solid game. They might have a hard time finding the intensity and emotion from that game, come out flat, let the Penguins control the play. I hope not, because the 2 points would open a bit of a gap between us and them.

    Carbonneau, asked after yesterday’s practice whether the Canadiens should be considered serious Cup contenders, replied tersely, “Yes.”

  249. Smart Dog says:

    Could be. But those kind of huge wins can also build confidence in young players who think they can fly… and maybe they can. We’ll see tonight.

    ________________________________________________________________
    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  250. PGHABS says:

    I hope the Canadiens make a few deals b4 the deadline, and one of them should include Huet. If we could get another scoring winner for Koivu, a big third line centre who can win faceoffs for the third line, and a veteran defenseman in case of injury, we would be fine for the rest of the season and the playoffs.

  251. Rogie30 says:

    After tonight, I agree with you, remtnded me of last years final game loss to the Leafs, however, is Price ready, as I dont see it yet. We better stop worrying about getting a foward, and concentrate on keeping the puck out of our own net.

  252. von says:

    *ahem* My earlier post:

    What in the world was Markov thinking when he didn’t take that easy pass from Komisarek??? It gave the puck right away to Pittsburgh and he didn’t catch him anyways! Bonehead play that ended up costing us the game.

    ;)

  253. idle says:

    Actually von I did notice and was a bit pleased to see you share the blame around instead of just dumping it all on Huet. Although he does get a big spoonful of it.

  254. Rogie30 says:

    When will fans realizr that we lack some size on our foward lines, center would help, as well as a player like Paulsson that plays defensivly to complement Begin, toughness along the boards and in front of the net.

  255. idle says:

    Such a typical over reaction. What couple of years has Huet had?? This is the first season he has had a decent team in front of him. Or did you not watch this team the past 3 seasons?

    There are lots of teams would would be happy with Huet. Do you guys only watch the goals the Habs let in? How many of the Habs 5 comeback goals the other night can you really say were great goals? How many of their 4 goals tonight were unstoppable? Here is a news flash for you. Goalies let goals in. They are not all good ones.

    Cheers

  256. PGHABS says:

    agreed Huet is a fine goalie, and an excellent tradeable asset

  257. Shobud says:

    How many times has Huet let in goals, five hole..Three more tonight..Huet played the playoffs and lost..I will grant you it was not a great team but either was Huet..Then he came in the last game last year and blew it..He was not that good all last year..This year he is no better and don’t tell me a guy that lets in four or five goals every game is good..Oh he has a good game every now and then but not too many

  258. idle says:

    I agree that this season has not been his best work and there is not much I can say about the Leaf game (except that I would be happier if we could let it go and quit bringing it up so much) but last season before his injury Huet was playing excellent and his best work since the first year he came to the Habs. I try to judge players by more then just what they are currently doing. There can not be a better example then Kovalev. What do you think people were saying about him last season?

    My assessment of Huet is that in 05/06 he came in half way though the season and was stunning. There is no question he was the best goalie in the league for the second half of that season.

    In 06/07 he had a very good first half and was an All Star and then fell off a bit early in the second half and then got injured for a good stretch and was rushed back for the last game that did not work out so well.

    In the first have of this season he played reasonably well and had his moments including a stretch where he helped the team earn at least 1 point in 12 of 14 starts. Now he has also had some not so good moments this season and especially lately and so we can’t be too happy with his performance at the moment, but we also can’t judge him only by his current play and call him a joke or suggest that no team would want him. If that is the way we judge people then Ryder would have been dumpped long ago this season and it seems like he is turning it around lately.

    When a player puts in some bad performances you just need to remember to keep breathing and remind yourself that there has been some good times too.

    I don’t thin Huets 3 season record is very bad at all if you look at it in that perspective. I suspect most GM’s in the league are able to step back and look at it that way too or else there would be a much higher rate in which players come and go in this league.

  259. RetroMikey says:

    Our kids are doing all right in Hamilton, won their 5th in a row last night…read on below. Grabovski’s on fire!

    Trevor Timmins and the scouting staff of Montreal are the best in the league!

    HAMILTON 5 QUAD CITY 1
    Wednesday, February 20th, 2008

    MOLINE, IL – Mikhail Grabovski had a goal and two assists and was named first star for the fifth consecutive game to lead the Hamilton Bulldogs to their season-high fifth-straight win with a 5-1 triumph over the Quad City Flames on Wednesday night at I Wireless Center. With the win, the Bulldogs’ record improves to 28-21-1-5 on the season.

    Duncan Milroy struck first for the Bulldogs at 15:03 of the opening frame with his 13th goal of the season. Corey Locke fired a shot towards the Flames’ net and Milroy was there to pick up the rebound and tuck in the 1-0 goal.

    Quad City responded at 5:26 of the middle stanza courtesy of a Tim Ramholt marker. Ramholt took a pass from Krys Kolanos and, with a crowd in front of Hamilton’s net, beat netminder Jaroslav Halak with a shot from the point.

    The Bulldogs added two more goals in the second period to take a 3-1 lead. At the 9:10 mark on a power play, Grabovski continued his hot hand, posting his sixth tally in the last five games to make the score 2-1. Hamilton took a two-goal lead with just 29 seconds left in the frame when Grabovski set up Matt D’Agostini for his 17th goal of the campaign.

    With two more goals in the third period, Hamilton sealed the 5-1 win. Marvin Degon notched his seventh goal of the season at the 8:45 mark to give the Bulldogs a 4-1 advantage. Grabovski (1-2-3) and Locke (0-3-3) each picked up their third point of the night with assists on Degon’s goal. At 18:07 of the frame, Kyle Chipchura then rounded out the scoring with an empty-net shorthanded tally.

    Between the pipes, Halak stopped 25 of 26 shots to earn the win for Hamilton, while McElhinney made 21 saves on 25 shots in a losing effort for Quad City.

    The Bulldogs out duelled their opponent on special teams in the game, going 2-for-10 on the power play and 7-for-8 on the penalty kill.

    With another goal and two more assists on the night, Grabovski extended his scoring streak to five games (Feb. 15-20), totalling 16 points (6-10-16) in that span. Over that period, Grabovski also has three game-winning goals, a game-tying goal, a plus-4 rating, 16 shots and six penalty minutes.

    D’Agostini is also now on a five-game point streak (Feb. 15-20) with eight points (4-4-8) and Corso extended his team-high assist streak to six games (Feb. 13-20) with eight helpers in that span.

    Scoring Summary:

    1st Period:
    1. HAM – Duncan Milroy-13 (Corey Locke, Daniel Corso) – 15:03

    2nd Period:
    2. QCY– Tim Ramholt-3 (Krys Kolanos, Carsen Germyn) – 5:26 (pp)
    3. HAM – Mikhail Grabovski-6 (Marvin Degon, Corey Locke) – 9:10 (pp)
    4. HAM – Matt D’Agostini-17 (Mikhail Grabovski, Brett Engelhardt) – 19:31

    3rd Period:
    5. HAM – Marvin Degon-7 (Mikhail Grabovski, Corey Locke) – 8:45 (pp)
    6. HAM – Kyle Chipchura-4 (Jean-Philippe Cote) – 18:07 (en.sh)

    Scoring:
    Hamilton: 1-2-2–5
    Quad City: 0-1-0–1

    Shots:
    Hamilton: 9-9-8–26
    Quad City: 4-6-16–26

    Goaltending:
    Hamilton: Jaroslav Halak (26 shots, 25 saves)
    Quad City: Curtis McElhinney (25 shots, 21 saves)

    Power Play:
    Hamilton: 2-for-10
    Quad City: 1-for-8

    Attendance: 2,524

    Three Stars:
    1. HAM – Mikhail Grabovski (1g, 2a, 3pts, +1, 4 shots)
    2. HAM – Corey Locke (0g, 3a, 3pts, +1)
    3. QCY – Tim Ramholt (1g, 0a, 1pt, 1 shot)

    Flamboro Downs Workhorse of the Game: Marvin Degon (1g, 1a, 2pts, +1, 4 shots

    “We will win the Cup only with Carey Price in the nets”

  260. ColoradoHab says:

    I truly believe we are cup contenders if we acquire an “impact player”.

    Grabvoski is on fire down on the farm. 16 points in his last 5 games. First star selection in all 5 games.

    Call him up now and see what he does here. Play him with Sk and Ryder.

    Pleks–AK27–AK46
    Koivu–Higgy–Streit
    Grabs–SK74–Ryder
    Lapps–Begin–Dandy

  261. Robert L says:

    Well then, here is some interesting news for you on this front.

    Hossa Has One Pantleg In The Bell Centre

    http://wwwrealitycheckeyesontheprize.blogspot.com/2008/02/hossa-has-one-foot-in-bell-centre.html

  262. madhabsfan says:

    Anybody here still think we don’t need that impact player?

    Huet can block the puck but can’t seem to stop it. He has got to work on rebound control.

  263. TripleX says:

    For all you Huet apologists, Carbo is quoted on TSN as saying he was not happy with the goaltending. DUH…..maybe you should have pulled him?

  264. idle says:

    Do we know if Lats can be sent down without effect? I have no problem with sitting him in with the press for awhile. That shot he fanned on tonight was so bad that it reminded me of my skills in pick up hockey.

  265. HKisses says:

    Look i was at the game tonight, and from what i saw Huet didn’t play well at all… Huets gets a chance to bounce back,why not Price tonight?…..Smolinski had a O.K game,considering he did win 80% of his faceoffs… Other then that i have nothing else to say, we should have won that game

  266. Habhopeful says:

    I know it’s speculation and a rumour but about the ryder, streit(i love streit!) for hossa but how would you put the lines?? I think i would go with this:

    Skoz-Koivu-Hossa
    Akoz-Plek-Kovy
    Tender-Lapierre-Higgins
    Kosto-Begin-Dandy-Slo Mo (I dont like to make fun of him but i had to use that name)

    I’m not sure if higgins would fit good with koivu and hossa, i think Skoz could develop into a VERY good player, maybe not this year but its showing more and more…

    “Like, you can’t get a girl pregnant when she’s on top man, I mean, its gravity…Just can’t happen.”

    -Jason Segel


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