Game 60: Habs sweep Flyers, tied with Senators

Alex Kovalev is congratulated by teammates for his first-period goal, his 27th of the season.
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Who needs the Boston Bruins when the Canadiens have the Philadelphia Flyers to kick around?

Twenty-four hours after blanking the erstwhile Broad Street Bullies 1-0 at the Bell Centre, the Canadiens skated to a 5-3 victory at the Wachovia Centre tonight to complete a four-game season sweep of the Flyers and hand the slumping home team their seventh consecutive loss.

And don’t look now, but the Canadiens, who won their third straight and 19th road game of the season, have jumped into a tie with Ottawa atop the National Hockey League’s Eastern Conference, both teams with 73 points though the Senators hold a game in hand.

Montreal goalie Carey Price made 34 saves to earn his third victory in as many starts since last Wednesday and 12th win this season. Price yielded just four goals to Philadelphia in his three wins over them this season.

Alex Kovalev had a goal and two assists in a game that had many rough edges and featured some superb penalty killing by the Canadiens.

The Habs managed 33 shots on Flyers goalie Antero Niittymaki, compared to the Flyers’ 37 on Price.

Kovalev, with his 27th of the season, and Philadelphia’s Mike Richards exchanged first-period goals, Kovalev’s coming first at 6:18 on a pretty, seeing-eye pass from behind the net off the stick of linemate Tomas Plekanec.

Richards’s goal, scored shorthanded, snapped Price’s goalless streak at 112:26, a span stretching back to the first period of Wednesday’s game in Florida against the Panthers.

Defenceman Francis Bouillon, in what was probably his best game in a Canadiens uniform, then put the Habs back on top with 1.2 seconds to play in the first on an end-to-end rush (that’s not a typo), finally whipping a shot past Niittymaki for his first of the season.

Bouillon’s goal followed the confusion of a vicious check laid on Sergei Kostitsyn in the corner to the left of Price, the ensuing jousting match involving Montreal’s Josh Gorges and the Flyers’ Jim Vandermeer, and it came one day short of the first anniversary of Bouillon’s most recent goal.

But Bouillon’s goal didn’t break the Flyers’ back, as a goal late in a period often does. On their first rush of the second, Philadelphia’s Braydon Coburn shot toward the Montreal goal, the puck deflecting off defenceman Mike Komisarek’s stick and floating like a knuckleball over Price’s shoulder at 34 seconds.

Michael Ryder responded, however, emerging from the press box tonight to put Montreal back in front at 2:15 with his ninth, cashing a rebound after a bit of scrambly action around Niittymaki.

Saku Koivu made it 4-2 at 10:10 on a 5-on-3 Montreal advantage, taking a pass from Andrei Markov to beat a sprawling Niittymaki along the ice for his 11th. Kovalev also assisted, his third point of the night, having also assisted on Ryder’s goal.

Maxim Lapierre iced the victory into an empty Philadelphia net at 18:36, his fourth of the season, before Riley Cote scored at 19:41 to round out the scoring.

The Canadiens improved their season record to 32-19-9 while Philadelphia fell to 30-24-5.

The Habs return home for three Bell Centre games this week – they face the New York Rangers on Tuesday, the Pittsburgh Penguins on Thursday and the Columbus Blue Jackets on Saturday, when Bob Gainey’s No. 23 will be retired in a pre-game ceremony.

369 Comments

  1. Ed says:

    You are right again. TSN shows how all players were acquired, and these 2 are interesting.
    Begin – 1996 was drafted 40th overall by Calgary. On July 3/03 – they traded him & Chris Drury to Buffalo, for Steve Reinprecht & Rhett Warrener. Then Montreal claimed Begin on waivers on Oct. 3/03.

    Bouillon – signed as a free agent by Montreal on June 28, 1998. On Oct 4/02, he was claimed by Nashville on waivers from Montreal, and then on Oct 25/02, Montreal claimed him back on waivers from Nashville.

  2. Blitzen says:

    Seconderered, this is great!!

    The only add-on I would like to see would be a forum where posters could start topics.

  3. Blitzen says:

    I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if Carbo isn’t silently hoping that the Habs win but that Price at least gives him a reason to start Huet in the next game. If Price shuts them down completely again tonight, what does he do for the next game? And if he keeps starting Price, is he getting a goaltending controversy? I’d rather he stick with the hot hand but I could see that this might ruffle some feathers…

    I’m thinking Carbo is hoping for something like 4-2 Habs with one softish goal allowed by Price.

  4. habitual says:

    Slightly off topic, but will you join me in thanking all those who make HIO possible?

    This is such a great feature from our friends at the Gazette. Think of all the things we get, free:

    Kevin’s one on one interviews.
    Dave’s great historical pieces.
    Podcasts with our boys.
    Mike’s game updates.
    Hot rookie Chris’s fresh perspectives.

    I’ve spent all Sunday morning reading posts, checking out leads to other stories, and just plain revelling in the pleasure of such a rich site for Habs devotees. What could be better?

    Thanks HIO staff. This site is extremely well done.

  5. HKisses says:

    Honestly any goalie can go into a slump,but tonights game isa real test. If he does well tonight,his confidence IMO will be very high…Which could lead Price to stealing the number 1 spot for the rest of the season….Don’t be surprised if this does happen,sending him down and bringing him back up is paying off…

  6. showey47 says:

    begin and i think bouillon, not sure though

  7. N.B.habs fan says:

    How the clubs were built:

    Phili Montreal
    drafted 5 13

    Free angency 10 5

    trades 11 3

    wavers 0 2

    Can some one tell me who we picked up on wavers ?

  8. mrstewart61 says:

    Few of us doubted Price, just are calling for patience. Still, it’s only been two games, granted he played really well. He could easily go into a slump. He certainly has come back with more of the attitude, confidence and positioning we saw at the WJC. We are fortunate to have both goalies!

  9. skoehn says:

    with how huet gets treated in montreal why would he want to stay…

  10. Smart Dog says:

    I wasn’t so hot on the Cube last year, but this year the more I watch, the more I like him.

    I think this is a GREAT D. One of the best in the league. Yeah, that fourth line is like a left-over dinner. And I’m even less thrilled about reuniting the three lost amigos. But maybe Koivu and Ryder can BOTH hit the net tonight… just getting their shots on would be a step up.

    ________________________________________________________________
    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  11. Ed says:

    Sorry, but I can’t resist. You said a huge contract. It’s almost like a huet contract. I agree though, and I for one think there is a good chance he will be gone after this season, especially if he wants the huge contract. Price will carry the load, and I am sure they can find a backup.

  12. Sulemaan says:

    Thanks SD. Have to share the news with friends.

  13. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Watch a Bulldogs game allready with Halac in nets,awsome!!!! Halak is the peace of the goal-tending puzzle needed and Huet is the trade bait,that’s life ,dude.Allso ,hope we get a young spark plug like that Downey kid,he’s allso the real deal.

  14. showey47 says:

    It also wouldn’t be a stretch to think that he may be one of the most coveted goalies on the market this summer, but if there is a bigger name please let me know. He is gonna want a 3 or 4 year deal. Every one forgets that he is gonna be 33 and has only been in the league 5 years (including this one) with the first 3 years making entry level backup goalie wages. Its not like he’s been in the league since he was 22 and has made nhl money for 10 years. This is gonna be his only chance at a big contract and it won’t be a 1 or 2 year deal with a hometown discount.

  15. Ed says:

    For anyone who is bored while waiting for the big game, here is a site which gives all kind of information on the 2 teams. It shows rankings against division, and conference; records after a victory or loss; records with zero days off; average height and weight (Habs are heavier); Canadian, American, and European players: U.S. college graduates (they have 1 more than us); who’s hot and who’s not, etc. Price’s save percentage over the last 2 games is only .986. That is very close to perfection.

    http://forecaster.canada.com/faceoff/hockey/tott.cgi?Mtl

  16. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Can’t hold on to Huet one more season as he becomes a free agent this year and will look for a long/huge contract.

  17. Mike says:

    HOLD ON A SECOND. Wait 1 more year before you trade huet. secondly, i would keep begin as some1 to play every second game. He brings a dynamic to the game like no one else.

  18. The Teacher says:

    OB is not a #4 right now and won’t be next year either. We need a stopgap until our prospects arrive.

    Pretty good shouldn’t be good enough ;)

  19. The Teacher says:

    I do want us to pick up Vinny LATER. Why give up assets if he indicated an interest in coming here. I think this year our goal is the playoffs and perhaps steal a round or two. Miracles can always happen but the Cup was not the plan this year. We need to improve our Defense a bit more IMO. Youth is good but contracts such as Dandy, Breezer, Ryder and Smokey as well as Bouillon and Begin’s will be expendable after this year. We have young D coming up so a true #3-4 D will help solidify our defencive core in front of our young goalie.

    We could then focus on retaining our RFA and going after UFA that are a fit for our team, hopefully with bargaining power behind us..

  20. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Pricless performance won that game for us,bring in Halak and let the trading begin. Good -bye and thank -you : Ryder,Huet ,Dandy,Smoke and Begin,enjoy your new surroundings!And for those fans who doubted Price,ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ….

  21. Ed says:

    When looking at the Team Leaders above, it’s like the Kovalev and Richards show, as they lead their teams in most offensive categories, and +/-. Price has been confirmed as playing tonight, and that should be a given after his showing in the last 2 games.

    I was wondering if anyone has heard any confirmation on Kovalev and Gorges. Kovalev does have a sore ankle, and all that skating last night could have aggravated it, but I hope not. As for Gorges, how bad is his flu? Could last night’s game have a detrimental effect on it, to the extent that he might be doubtful for tonight’s game. The flu does tire one out, and this will be 2 games in 24 hours.

  22. Blitzen says:

    Not saying do this to get a guy we could use immediately. I’m talking about someone who could move in 2 years down the road for instance. We have so many D-Men coming down the pipe that it is unlikely we’ll be able to fit them all in anyway. Not so with forwards.

  23. slamtherimtim says:

    need to get him before its too late , if we do indeed get him it could never be too soon

  24. Fab K says:

    I wouldn’t give more than 4 or 5 players:

    Koivu (and definitely not Plekanec)
    Ryder or Higgins
    Huet or Halak
    a defender such as O’Byrne (imagine him playing in Tampa after what happened… lol), or Gorges…
    a couple of draft picks (one 1st rounder and a 2nd/3rd rounder. Not 2 first rounders).

    Tampa can then rebuild from there, having both youth and experience. This trade also adds a new addition to each position… The draft picks could help out as well.

    I wouldn’t even go close to Plekanec, Kostitsyn brothers, Komisarek or Price. They are untouchable!!! We will win the cup with these within the next few years (hopefully sooner rather than later)…

    What do you guys think?

    Fab

  25. Shobud says:

    I believe we can bring some guys up after thr deadline I hope Chips is one of them.. It would be good to get a look at a couple of the others too

  26. N.B.habs fan says:

    G-man I feel we should jump to get him ,He wants to play here so LETS GO GET HIM.

  27. wd40 says:

    well i’m glad i was wrong (never take stock tips from me) … looking forward to seeing Price again in nets. i am so pumped for this game. today we capitalize on those missed chances.

  28. Dintrox says:

    Go Habs Go!! Great performance Carey!!.. Guy’s riding the hot guy right now.. I’m expecting a physical game.. those flyers are gonna be feisty!!

    I am very concerned by the lack of finish.. yes we have won two in a row but have only scored 3 goals in those games…

  29. Wayne says:

    I agree with that. Higgins will come around too. He’ll kick butt in the playoffs, mark my words.

  30. G-Man says:

    The key for tonight will be shutting them down early and bodychecking. Good speed through the neutral zone should give us the advantage on a slow Flyers D; the Habs should be able to establish a strong forecheck right off the bat. Everyone has to turn it up a notch, ’cause Philly is feeling the pain of 6 in a row.

    As for trades, sounds like Vinny wants to renegotiate his deal with Tampa. Or just tease us into a frenzy. If Koivu, Higgins + 1 D prospect = Vinny I’d jump at it. I get the feeling others would part with more. Imagine how good Detroit would be with him? Or Philly? Or, gulp, Ottawa? If this is serious, things are going to get interesting real quick.

    Gilbert

  31. habitual says:

    I wouldn’t go that way. The three rookies we have now are O’Byrne, Valentenko, and Emelin (spelling). It’s too early to see how these guys are going to do. What if in three years one or more is a Norris trophy candidate?

    We are ahead of where anyone thought the team would be, and it is nice but unrealistic to consider ourselves Cup favourites, so trading for a forward to put us over the top this year is not sensible.

    I would see which UFA can be signed in the off season. It means not having to give up young prospects, and it will allow us to see who is expendable based on a full season and playoffs. How did Dandy, Smokes, Nonstopolis and my favourite Begin do? Who can be let go to create the cap room?

  32. habs12345 says:

    this off season players will be looking at montreal differently i think we can land a hossa type player there and keep our hard earned prospects

  33. HKisses says:

    Yup sorry i did…..hmmm Alexei Emelin and P.K. Subban

  34. N.B.habs fan says:

    I have a Question for Teacher,Why dont you want us to pick Vince up later ,do we not have enough to to pick him up with out trading half our team? and do you think we are a contender for the cup this year,I would love to see that but even with a good center I feel we still need more experience,mabe next year I hope.just wondering what your thoughts were on this. thanks

  35. habs12345 says:

    i completly disagree i think it would be a big mistake to trade for hossa

  36. Blitzen says:

    Komi, Markov, Hammer and O’Byrne look like a pretty good 1-4 to me. Plus we have a TON of D prospects in the pipeline. We need forwards who can score.

  37. Blitzen says:

    I think you misunderstood the question. I’m talking about D prospects for a top-notch F prospect.

  38. HKisses says:

    Yea,Oli could play the wing… But hey enjoy the show….. Go HAbs

  39. The Teacher says:

    Our first priority should be getting a #3-4 D in the offseason. (This money will be used from the Smokey, Breezer, Dandy and Bouillon contracts (they will be traded).

    We will then go after someone who can help the offence. Unless it is Vinny Lecavalier, Jarome Iginla, Sidney Crosby, or Alexander Ovechkin. I won’t be happy giving 7+ mil to guys like Hossa which will throw our salary structure all out of wack.

    We need a physical player up front. Hossa is not that. He is not worth 7 mil on his own, all of the above mentioned players ARE.

  40. Shobud says:

    Just remember if you got Hossa.. You are not going to have the money to sign a lot of the ones you need next year.. I hope there is no trade.. Take a look at ottawa and we are right on their ass We don’t need any othe stars than the ones we have,,You might have a couple that make Hossa look like a liner

  41. LizardKing1967 says:

    Olli J is fine with me, but what do u do with Koivu?

    Guys, it’s been great. I hardly get to post at all, let alone this much in one day. I gotta go. Unfortunatly I will miss the game. going to a show I been waiting 30 years to see….. Jesus Christ Superstar at Place des Arts.

    Go Habs, Go Price.

    All u posters are great………lets just root for our team

    Jim-out

  42. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    STREIT should be on KOIVU’s LINE….

    STREIT-KOIVU-SK
    KOVY-PlEK-AK
    HIGG-LAP-RYD
    BEGIN-CHIP-LATRON

    THATS HOW WE WIN THE CUP…DO IT TONIGHT CARB!
    ———
    1. ONLY BELIVEAU CAN CONVINCE LECAVALIER…
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP

  43. HKisses says:

    OlI Jokkinen …PERIOD…IMO

  44. LizardKing1967 says:

    And, what am I giving up? We won’t get a top player for nothing.

    Higgins… probably the best 3RD LINE winger in the NHL.
    Streit… expendable for us, and a UFA.
    Yemelin… gotta give up a top prospect, and with O’B, Subban, Valentenko, Fischer, take your pick.
    1st rd pick… This years pick is gonna be near the bottom, unless we tank the rest of the year.

    So, what’s wrong?

    Jim-out

  45. HKisses says:

    COrey Locke,Mikhail Grabovski,Matt D’Agostini….i would give up Grabovski….

  46. LizardKing1967 says:

    So, what do we NEED??

    Jim-out

  47. LizardKing1967 says:

    First of all, we won’t get crap for Ryder….his stock has fallen big time. And second, I did not say Streit is a liability. He’s a very good puck carrying D-man, but we’ve got Markov. And in case you havn’t noticed, Gorges is starting to look pretty darn good coming out of our zone. And he can lay it on defensively too. What do we need more right now, a top notch scoring winger, or a mobile, soft defence, D-man. I like Streit as much as the next guy, but we need something different.

    Jim-out

  48. Blitzen says:

    Question for y’all: I’m looking at our forward prospects and not seeing much, aside from Pax and perhaps D’Agostini, that could operate above a 3rd line. How about we trade a couple of our D prospects, of which we seem to have a ton, for a top notch forward prospect?

  49. HKisses says:

    And do what with ryder? .. I rather get soemthing out of Ryder and prospect …instead of giving up Higgins and Striet….As for Streit ,I don know why you guys think he has no handles on the puck….but go look at some of the previous games he can carry the puck into the offensive zone pretty quick, and has some good stick work….I don’t see Streit as a libility………IF we were to go for a player to trade for i would go with Olli Jokinen….Not Hossa

  50. The Teacher says:

    Hossa isn’t right for us, in terms of his skill set or salary cap hit. I’ll pass and go for something we NEED. He isn’t it.

  51. Bean says:

    Thanks for elaborating, I appreciate these kinds of thought-out replies!

    I agree that it would take a deal with the calibre of players you’ve mentioned to pry him out of TB’s hands. I’m afraid though that it’s still too rich for my taste, even for such a pure star like Lecavalier.

    I’ve had more fun as a Habs fan the last two years watching this group of young guys develop into astonishingly talented players than I’ve had in a long time, and I’m so looking forward to another year or two down the road to see how everything shapes up. I admit this maybe makes me TOO reluctant to consider a big trade, maybe I’ve got some blinders on, but I’m happy to stay the course with the current “Kiddie Corps,” as the bright future of our team’s been dubbed, and let Gainey’s long-term plans come to fruition.

  52. habitual says:

    Yes! Your best comment. The whole point of this site is to trade ideas, speculate, prompt the best from each other, but there are 25 other teams that would like to be where the Habs are, with those that got us there.

  53. mjames says:

    Not give up too much – look at what you are giving up. Also it is my view that you never ever give up draft picks. Besides Hossa is a rental –

    mjames

  54. mjames says:

    Jimmy is smoking too much – STILL

    mjames

  55. N.B.habs fan says:

    thanks buddy ,I wasn’t sure if we could get him if we had a chance,but I to would love to see Vinnie come here ,but not to lose to many good players.

  56. LizardKing1967 says:

    And I suppose you have a better idea. What better player is out there, that we can A) sign to a deal, B) get a bonafide scoring winger, and C) not give up too much.

    Jim-out

  57. mjames says:

    Great

    We have one super star and no supporting cast because we traded them to get Vinny.

    mjames

  58. PGHABS says:

    that picture is awful

  59. LizardKing1967 says:

    Glad I am not also. Wouldn’t want such a pressure job. OOps, forgot to mention…I wouldn’t make that trade unless I can sign Hossa to a 4-5 year deal as part of it.

    Jim-out

  60. mjames says:

    Glad you are not our GM

    mjames

  61. HKisses says:

    Yup!!! That’s a better post lol

  62. LizardKing1967 says:

    I think I might have to agree with you, but what would we get for him? How about this….

    Higgins, Streit, Yemelin, 1st rounder for Hossa

    Jim-out

  63. LizardKing1967 says:

    Why does he have to be a “rental”?? Gainey did speak to his agent last week. And, yes, I don’t like to give up draft picks, but if we keep it up, we won’t have a good one this year. Also, you gotta give something up for something. Hope u r not one of those guys who thinks we can give Ryder straight up for Hossa.

    Jim-out

  64. Mike says:

    TRADE STREIT!!!! the guy can’t d. He doesnt have the hands of a forward. Has a good shot on the point, but so what. He gets so nervous when the opposition pressures him he coughs up the puck. For some reason sport “experts” love him. SO TRADE HIM!!! HIS VALUE WILL NEVERBE HIGHER AND WE HAVE NO POINT FOR HIM.

  65. LizardKing1967 says:

    I guess we shouldn’t be saying much anyway. Our beloved Habs are 2 points back of first place in the CONFERENCE, after all.

    Jim-out

  66. LizardKing1967 says:

    I’ve always liked Cube. And, yes he is playing alot better now than previously, but someone has to sit, and the way Gorges has improuved over the last month or two, you can’t leave him out. He has matured enormously. I think we got the HUGE end of the Rivet trade. Also, if MK is Komisaurus, than O’B is O’Ceratosaur.You have to like the FUTURE big “3″ Komi, Markov, and O’B.
    O’B has not played that many games, but for such a young guy, he makes some errors, but he is a BIG force.

    Jim-out

  67. HKisses says:

    Cube out? no way ur crazy….he’s 5’6 playing like Komi’s size…..he has grit and always works…..i say Streit forward and Cube on defence where he belongs

  68. The Teacher says:

    Because we MUST win now and try every thing to do it NOW NOW NOW lol.

  69. 24 Cups says:

    Smart Doggie – why not just wait a year and get him for free?

    The Original 24 Cups

  70. planet habs says:

    halak should be the backup next year, but habs management didn’t treat him well, so wouldn’t be surprised if Halak wants out. I mean should have gotten a few starts. But if he leaves, we have Danis as a backup. Either way Huet’s days here, are numbered. he’s just not worth the money and besides, he won’t settle for being a back up. Can you see a backup getting 3 mil/season? ridiculous. better spend that money on a goal scorer or 2.

  71. Smart Dog says:

    I wasn’t so hot on the Cube last year, but this year the more I watch, the more I like him.

    I think this is a GREAT D. One of the best in the league. Yeah, that fourth line is like a left-over dinner. And I’m even less thrilled about reuniting the three lost amigos. But maybe Koivu and Ryder can BOTH hit the net tonight… just getting their shots on would be a step up.

    ________________________________________________________________
    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  72. LizardKing1967 says:

    AK27-Pleks-AK46
    Higgins-Koivu-Ryder
    Lats-Lapierre-Sergei
    Dandy-Begin-Streit

    Komi-Markov
    Hammer-O’B
    Gorges-Cube

    Does this 4th line REALLY look like we have depth??? Come on GC and BG. Get real. Put Smo and Kosto where thye belong. As for the “weapon” Streit is, put him with Gorges. Sorry Cube, odd-man out.

    Jim-out

  73. Smart Dog says:

    I wouldn’t let go any of the players in my sig. unless it was for a marquee player who is likely to be in contention for the scoring title. Vinny is that kind of player.

    Tampa would need a Vinny replacement so start with Koivu or Plekanec. I would hate to lose Plekanec, but that’s likely. To round out the trade I would think might be something like:
    - One of: Plekanek or Koivu
    - One of: Higgins, O’Byrne, Gorges, top D prospect
    - Halak or Huet
    - 2 high draft picks (two first rounders or a first and second)

    This is a trade I would be tempted to do if I was Bob. Plekanec is a very, very special player and may reach elite level but Vinny IS elite level and with the youth Montreal has, for me, sending 2 good players, a goalie (which we have too many of) and 2 picks is worth it. It’s the MAX I would go. I would not give away either Kostitsyn AND Plekanec for example because all three are potential future stars. On my “untouchable list” are also Komiserik or Hamrlik. The only reason I would give up Pleks (and I wouldn’t want to) is I think we’d have to give up one that we definitely don’t want to and he’s our first-line center so they probably would demand him.

    But I would do something like that and I think it’s in the ballpark of what Vinny would command.

    Comments?

    ________________________________________________________________
    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  74. N.B.habs fan says:

    Thanks for the info ED,man you guys like trivia hockey,thanks again.

  75. 24 Cups says:

    The Rangers beat San Jose 3-1 this afternoon which isn’t good news for the Habs. I thought San Jose might have taken this cross conference game. Oh well, a win for our boys will really make Philly’s life miserable now. By the way, If Smolinski is out for today then who is going to be our 4th centre?

    The Original 24 Cups

  76. planet habs says:

    It’a miracle! Koivu and Ryder scored. don’t expect that to happen again, but as often as an eclipse of the moon. Is there a lunar eclipse tonight?

  77. postie jim says:

    How much does refereing pay in philly. We are getting the short end of the stick in this one. BS by the ton.

  78. KeepRyder says:

    Thanks Guys,

    I grew up a Habs fan among Leaf fans in my family. I have seen, and remember, six cups, while many of my family members are still trying to photoshop Sundin’s head on George Armstrong’s body with the cup. I have the CH throughout the house and especially in my boy’s rooms. never to early to influence!

    Heck, even my laptop is a Habs fan. It is adorned with the Official Canadiens skin from Dell!

    Better get to bed……its Sunday here, now there’s only five days…..!

    ____________________________________________
    It can only get better!! Go Ryder, Go Habs!

  79. Ed says:

    You are tired. It is actually Monday here.

  80. Shiloh says:

    What I liked about tonight was the contribution of different players – not just the usual suspects. Bouillon was great – played like a guy twice his size and on the road in Philly that’s saying a lot. Ryder was around the puck and working every shift. He’s too talented to sit. I could suggest who might sit instead but will leave that comment for another time. Begin must have given the team a boost when he not only downed a guy with a great body check but also wrestled the Flyers captain to the ice – in Philly!

    Plekanec is the real deal – what a pass to Kovalev. AK46 can fly out there, and shoot and hit – he’s a first line player for years.

    Huet – don’t know his future but I’m glad he’s with us now. Did anyone else notice him snarling at the Philly fans as they shouted stuff at the team on the way to the dressing room after the second period? That tells me he’s still one of the guys – standing up for his teammates and not sulking.

    And our man Kovalev – I love it when he’s on the ice.

  81. ClaytonM says:

    I’ve heard there’s no pleasing some people, but saying Huet MUST return this week? That’s just silly. Price has played the best hockey this year, far outshining Huet’s accomplishments all year, and you want to bench him.

    I can understand taking a stance, but not sticking with it when everything indicates you’ve been wrong. It’s time for the Huet supporters to admit Price is the better goalie PERIOD.

  82. jimbo82 says:

    i couldn’t be any happeir right now but i do think they need someone to fill in on the koivu and higging line, does not need to be hossa but just someone who can really get the line going. Really sucks Ryder is having the year he is having cause if that line was clicking we would be even better off.

  83. usversusthem says:

    Man when are people going to stop making stupid Price puns? Seriously that guy is never going to hear the end of it about his last name.

  84. Fab K says:

    just to think, if we win tonight we are tied in the standings with Ottawa!!!

    when’s the next time we face them? We’re knocking on 1st place door!!!

  85. linp says:

    I like the french connection: Lapierre, Latendresse and Dandenault. They played well the last two games.

  86. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    I never said anything about who is better…but what is better for the team is for both Goalies to be in GAME SHAPE going down the stretch and into the playoffs…that is a powerful asset for us to have.

    not to run with one goalie for the next 20games whatever…we don’t have that problem.

    so the problem for Carb now is to find a spot to insert Huet…we have LA, PhX coming so there will be plenty of bounce back games.

    If Rangers are next then go with PRICE…but Huet should not go cold.

    when you are in the playoffs then you STICK WITH ONE GOALIE!!

    and WHO WILL THAT GOALIE BE????????????????

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    1. ONLY BELIVEAU CAN CONVINCE LECAVALIER…
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP

  87. linp says:

    Ryder is getting his one-timer back. Now we just have to set him up. Putting him in the PP is a good start. I also like to see Sergei Kostitsyn playing the point in the PP. Strait is quite ineffective recently. Sergei passes the puck well.

  88. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    agreed, they generated many chances with hardwork down low…just need Dandy to play on edge to be effective, and thats a hard thing for a veteran to do down the stretch…but come playoffs INSERT DANDY FULLTIME.
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    1. ONLY BELIVEAU CAN CONVINCE LECAVALIER…
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP

  89. ClaytonM says:

    Price will make the playoff start if he keeps playing like that. Huet hasn’t had a horrible start lately besides the Ottawa game, but Price is a goalie that needs more action. Huet is a typical back-up in that he can play well after sitting for several games. Besides, Carbo will ride Price until he loses. I thought he’d play Huet tonight, and I’m glad I was wrong.

    BTW, I apologize for the comment. I must have mixed you up with the vipah, who seems to be absent today. Anyone heard from vipah this weekend?

  90. Wayne says:

    No,.. it’s Boullion ;-)

  91. Chuck says:

    He was around earlier.

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  92. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Kovalev is turning this club around and into a top contender.And the scary thing is he’s just getting better and better,the possibilities are endless at this point!

  93. Vid says:

    A few things to note about this game. The officiating was not really fair to Philly. I already mentioned two previous examples and Hartnell’s goalie interference penalty looked to me that Komi did push him into Price. With that said, I still think that Habs would’ve won regardless as they played quite well. Although Philly was on a losing streak they did not play particularly poorly against us though they have quite a few injuries, of note to Gagne and Lupul.

    Mtl isn’t the only team who has a D playing forward. Philly also has D Lasse Kukkonen play forward on occasion.

    The next two games against Rangers & Pens will be very important. I believe we’ve lost our last two games against the Rangers. They seem to have our number this season like Jersey & Florida have previously (thankfully we’ve at least beaten both of them at least once this season).

    Even though we tend to not have too many problems vs the Pens they are only two pts behind us with a red hot Malkin.

    Despite both the Sens & Wings’ recent losing streaks Habs are still not on their level. I think to be even close to approaching their level we will have to consistently beat teams like Rangers and Jersey who have a pattern of giving us trouble. Elite status will then only follow when the Habs can beat Ottawa and Detroit calibre teams and prove that they can beat any given team on any given night.

    If Koivu Higgins Ryder were playing even half as well as they did last season then we wouldn’t be as pressed for another good, big offensive forward. I think the Habs can get away with not obtaining such a forward if Koivu Higgins & Ryder step up. I feel that Koivu and Ryder did step up during this game. Ryder’s goal was definitely a turning pt. that swung the momentum our way and Koivu’s PP goal solidified our lead. I do feel Koivu’s puck possession skills aren’t as good as last season, he seems to lose the puck more quickly or maybe he’s holding on to it just as long as before but has no good options to make good passes.

    On other hand even without a legitimate 2nd scoring line, I think offence is not a major problem with the Habs but occasionally team defence against elite teams like Ottawa can be. I don’t know what can help us in this department. Trade for a shutdown player with size and faceoff prowess? Another solid defensive D? Adjustment to the team’s defensive system? More practice time spent on faceoffs? Is anybody doing video reviewing of the team? If Kovy can look at old videos of his play and improve, why not others?

    I am quite impressed with Sergei Kostitsyn. Even though he doesn’t have many points, he does a really good job on the point during the PP. Makes good passes and can adjust to receive less than ideal passes and makes some good shots on net.

  94. Sulemaan says:

    So here’s the view from the peanut gallery. My five cents:

    (1) It’s great to see Steve Begin back. Not just in the lineup but hitting everything that moves. Unless he plays with an edge he’s useless. I also agree with other posters that this was the best game by Mr. Bouillon in a long time. Both of these guys may be small but when they play as they are capable of they have a lot of heart.

    (2) Let’s not sweat the small stuff about goaltending. Price played well tonight so let’s be happy about it. Carbonneau has done a pretty good job so far this year going with the right goaltender. If he plays Huet the next game great. I used to worry about trading Huet so we didn’t lose him as a UFA – not anymore. Why? How many teams can say they have two capable goaltenders like us? Unless someone offers Gainey the moon for Huet, keep him. Besides, if Huet walks for nothing in the off-season we still have Halak and the money from Huet’s salary can go towards another UFA. We did sign a UFA by the name of Hamrlik last summer…

    (3) It’s great to think about potential trades and getting players like Ovechkin, LeCavalier and Hossa on our team. But look at all of those teams and what is the common denominator? They are all not doing very well.

    I’m not blaming those players but in an era of salary cap, you have to pay top players top drawer. So at a minimum, each of those players would cost between $8M-$10M per season (if not more). If the salary cap is $50M. Does it make sense to put 20% of your salary into one player? That means that the remaining 80% goes into 23 or so other players. You can’t have much of a strong supporting cast as the team can’t even pay them fair market value. I think the league is now at a point where top players will have to decide if they want to take a little less salary to play on a championship team or be on some also-ran and not even make the playoffs.

    (4) When you look at the team this year as noted by another poster, what is the difference. Okay, Kovalev is playing like a man possessed, Ryder/Koivu/Higgins aren’t, Komisarek/Markov have emerged as a brilliant defence pairing. But the real changes are the youth that we have injected into the lineup: Price, O’Byrne, Gorges, S.Kostitsyn, A.Kostitsyn, Latendresse, Lapierre and Chipchura, Grabovski (amongst others) waiting in the wings. If the youth is what is turning this team around why part with it. So we can make an extra round in the playoffs? Why rush things? Why not continue to play strong and build our team from within and then become a power-house year after year like Detroit? Or like Montreal used to be when they cultivated talent from within back in the 50s,60s,70s and 80s.

    I remember the team in 1984/85 when players like Skrudland, Kurvers, Roy, Lemieux, Momesso, Chelios, Corson, Richer were waiting in the wings. The team could have traded them but held on and won 2 Cups in 7 years and competed regularly the other years. Call me foolish but I see us on the cusp of the same thing. I’m not saying don’t trade prospects (Kovalev for Balej and 2nd round pick was a great deal) but be judicious about it. Which I believe Gainey is. As Sam Pollock once said, “Listen to the fans and then do what you were going to do in the first place.”

    (5) We all know last year the team had a meltdown after teasing us. I’m still hesitant but I’m starting to think this team is for real. I also think I have it all wrong about Patrice Brisebois. Yes, the team is 16-4-4 – or something like that – without him in the lineup. But I’m starting to think he’s a good luck charm actually. So long as he stays in the press box! ;-)

    [My apologies for the long post.]

  95. skoehn says:

    that is just not even close to being true…. price has not outshined huet

  96. wild flower says:

    I notice along with his improved play, Koivu is providing more post game comments.

  97. Sulemaan says:

    How come Dean?

  98. Sulemaan says:

    Thanks Earl. I can’t think of anyone young but perhaps Mike Peca if we are looking for a good defensive centreman for a playoff run.

    He won a couple of Selke trophies and might be able to teach the kids a thing or two. I’d take him over Smolinski and he’d might cost less too.

  99. The Teacher says:

    #4

    BRAVO. Bravo. That’s what I want. Detroit-like Dominance. Habs of yore contending.

    Bravo Sulemaan :)

    P.S. I think Vinny is going to take less to come here. It’s just a feeling I have. The stars are aligning. The only problem is….he wears #4…What is his new number going to be?

  100. wild flower says:

    Instead of Marleau, why not Craig Rivet. They have the same number of pts and while Marleau is -21, Rivet is +1.

  101. Wayne says:

    … hey, i wanna ride a gator too!

  102. Sulemaan says:

    I meant the season thus far but I should have clarified that my friend.

    You are absolutely right that he did indeed play very well tonight. In fact, I would say he did well despite not getting a lot of ice-time from Carbo.

    I hope he gets more and continues to play like he did tonight. We need him. Apologies for that miscommunication.

  103. Sulemaan says:

    Well if Vinny did come Teach, I’d say #44, provided that he takes Roman out to Queue du Cheval for 44 pre-game meals. :-)

  104. T-roy West says:

    I agree with most of your post Sulemaan except I would trade Huet. My reasons are that I don’t think he will be here next year. Montreal doesn’t negotiate contracts during the season so he won’t get a contract extention before the deadline and he will get a lot of offers for big bucks that Gainey won’t match. No sense having a 3-4 million dollar backup. So if your saying that a youth movement is the way to go then mybe we should trade Huet for prospects or draft picks to keep the flow of youth going. Don’t forget to include Halak also with the guys you mentioned because he also is part of the youth movement. Price is for real and Halak did really well last year so lets not let Huet walk for nothing!

  105. Sulemaan says:

    I can’t say I disagree with you T-roy but my fear is that if Price has another slump like he did earlier this season (not that I wish it), it doesn’t give us much breathing room if we deal Huet.

    But you do raise a good point about going with our youth which includes Halak. I just don’t know if any teams out there are looking for a rental goalie. And if they are what would we get from them? If it’s anything above a 2nd R. pick or a half-decent prospect, I’d just as well hold on to Huet.

  106. Sulemaan says:

    All good bro. Who knows? Maybe if the team holds on to Ryder he might just turn it on now. I believe Kovalev played poorly when we first acquired him from New York Rangers and then he tore it up in the playoffs. :-)

  107. Shiloh says:

    I agree. If the offer is basically nothing we might as well hang on to him. An extra playoff round would reward Mr. Gilette very well – much more than saving about a quarter of Huet’s salary. Also, I don’t think we have to pay Price that much for the next few years because of the rookie caps. I’m fine with Price and Halak, but I also don’t mind having Huet as insurance. He seems like a good team guy and Price seems comfortable with him as the other goalie. What to do with Huet isn’t an easy question.

  108. T-roy West says:

    I understand what your saying but what if we could get someone worth our while or a high draft pick? I would be more afraid of Huet going into a slump rather than Price. Name one thing Huet does better than Price. You will find it hard. Besides, Halak did great while Huet was out last year. He is also nhl ready.

  109. Spartan117 says:

    well said

    comments on the game: Bouillon was a prophet, Price our saviour and Kovalev is our god.

    praise the Almighty Canadiens

    LES HABITANTS JUSQU’AU BOUT

  110. Sulemaan says:

    thanks spartan. i like that comment on the game.

  111. The Teacher says:

    The problem is, we won’t get much for Huet. Nashville is probably the only team in the West who could possibly have an interest in him, and who would they give up? Trading him to an East team is out as well, since there is no urgency to move him. Might as well keep the strength in numbers as the status quo for now.

  112. HKisses says:

    my first star ill name him now…..BOUILLON

  113. Sulemaan says:

    Nah, I figured you were going to eventually respond with the necessary dose of sarcasm and cynicism Timo. What the hell took you so long? Getting slow… ;-)

  114. The Teacher says:

    Feb 20th I believe.

  115. downeast hab says:

    seems like Carbo has to eat —-. Ryder playing half the minutes than other players, an has a goal and the most shots. Oh, if only he was wanted on this team.Best of luck next year on a team that wants him.

  116. kostystsinbrothersarethefuture says:

    I think tonight’s game was awesome for some guys, specially for bouillon. The guy was hiting like a monster!. I also love to see Price playing like that, the guy’s an eminence on the nets. I’d like to say that we should trade Koivu and Ryder and get a power forward like Marleau. and Carbo should bring back chipchurra and give S.Kostytsin more time on the ice.

  117. Wayne says:

    Especially because of the way this club retires it’s legends that makes these nights very special. They are kings among kings thereafter. Gotta love it. Great post Bean.

  118. habsgod says:

    great post suleman!!you are 100% correct keep up the good posts!

  119. ebk says:

    nice post as always, Sulemaan

    I think Gainey will look at a trade but not if it disturbs his core of young talent as you noted. I’d rather see Chipchura and Grabovski back up, maybe Valentenko and live or die with the Kids.

    I’d look long and hard at upgrading the defensive forward types. They all have been rather inconsistent this year. It would come cheaper than Hossa etc. Guy Carbonneau as a player would help this team tremendously. Anyone out there like that?

  120. planet habs says:

    Price-the ice man! tied for top spot with the sens.
    price is definitely RIGHT! Cristobal who? hope he likes being backup, because he’s not getting in goal as long as Price is in Montreal.

  121. KeepRyder says:

    I hope everyone saw how P.O’d Ryder was at the end of the game when Cote scored. Know why, Gui blew his check and the scored. ryder was so P.O’d. Reading lips, he mentioned to Gui to backchec, and not in a nice way. He was probably thinking…..”Great! Wonderboy blows his check, and I’ll get the crap for it.”

    So happy tonight, though. Habs win, Ryder scores, and in 6 days I get to see, in person, my first Habs game ever, and on Bob Gainey Nite to boot!

    Can a grown man cry….I will I am pretty positive I will! Don’t hold it against me!

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    It can only get better!! Go Ryder, Go Habs!

  122. Fer_hab says:

    carbs should ride price for the next game and trade huet because we all know that huet can play more than 40 games than choke. i say we don’t need hossa he would cost us a lot of future. i would suggest trade graboviski and a 3rd round draft pick for jeff carter. let me know what u think

  123. linp says:

    They reflects on the +/-, LOL.

  124. Jonnyboy says:

    Next door to “Maple Leaf keys to sucess school” est. 1968.

  125. HKisses says:

    WOWWWW…IS it me or is Bouillion playing so well right now …….5v5 and huge on PK

  126. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    a few observations from this GREAT tilt:

    BEGIN – he is BACK, hitting, fighting and pressing the opposition to make errors..MUST STAY IN LINEUP.

    RYDER – with a vengence, TOUGHNESS? he defined it tonight, what a WEAPON we had boxed up!, CARB at FAULT here…let the kid play, he is TOUGH AS NAILS and can put it away when the opportunity comes. But what really deserves mention is his CARBONISM type defensive coverage, crushing hits, taken and delivered…MUST STAY IN LINEUP

    STREIT – brings life to the lower lines, brings life to the powerplay..a defensman playing forward, THATS CARBS DREAM PLAYER!

    BOULION – most don’t notice, but the way Cube played tonight is how HE ALWAYS PLAYS…keep it up, you are a top 4 defenseman…anywhere.

    KOVALEV and Crew…best line in the NHL, what we’ve all known for awhile, now the rest of the NHL/Media will wakeup…

    Koivu and Crew…I see the confidence coming back, just need SK to sync with Higgs.

    PRICE – SOLID…but Huet MUST return this week.

    SMOKEN da BREEZE…don’t sharpen your skates, in fact put them in storage…i think old man Dandy will join you soon,…STAY WHERE YOU ARE UNTIL CALLED.

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    1. ONLY BELIVEAU CAN CONVINCE LECAVALIER…
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP

  127. Chuck says:

    I had more than a tear in my eye at Dryden’s jersey retirement night. Don’t sweat it!

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  128. Chuck says:

    Grabovski had another 4 points tonight for Hamilton. He might be a keeper!

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  129. Sulemaan says:

    You might be right Chuck, but I’d make that trade of Grabovski and 3rd R. pick for Carter.

  130. Sulemaan says:

    Yup, got a big frog in my throat when I got to see #19 raised to the rafters.

  131. Vid says:

    I have to admit Habs are getting the breaks when it comes to penalties not being called (Lats high sticks someone near the boards centre ice and Markov crosscheck on the penalty kill in front of price).

    Just as I say that O’byrne then Streit get penalties towards the end of the 2nd period.

    Pretty exciting game to watch, lots of hitting and intensity.

  132. The Teacher says:

    # 23 will be special. Many of the younger fans will remember him more than they did Dryden, Moore et al.

    I expect a huge ovation

  133. KeepRyder says:

    Well, if not for that lovely piece of defence by Latendresse, Ryder was a plus player. As it ws, he was even. koivu, Higgins, S.Kostitsyn, Gui and Dandy were minus players.

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    It can only get better!! Go Ryder, Go Habs!

  134. Chuck says:

    I tend to agree with you, Sulemaan. Carter’s definitely got the goods. He’s too good for that team!

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  135. nightmare_49 says:

    I know you’ll enjoy that night, me son.

  136. Bean says:

    I’m pretty sure I’ve gotten misty at every retirement ceremony I’ve watched. And that’s from the comfort of my own couch — I can’t imagine the emotion of being there in person. Especially for Bob, and you know there’ll be mention of his wife and daughter.

    I don’t think anyone’ll begrudge you your tears!

  137. usversusthem says:

    Alright, this is good, this is good. We just need to stay out of the penalty box, play smart hockey, and maybe get another goal somehow. There’s no reason why we should lose this game or even let the Flyers get a point.

    Also… dunno if you guys have noticed but Kovy now has 59 points in 60 games… if he gets another one tonight he’ll be the first point-per-game Habs player in God knows how long… at this stage of the season at least. Anyone know when the last one was?

  138. TradeRyder says:

    As the Teach reminds me ( and I knew he would) Ryder scored his 9th goal tonight. What I had said was something like “Ryder won’t score 10 goals in a Habs uniform this year”. So we’ll see if he’s still here to score another soon. Have to admit he played a good game… though at the same time the thing that bothers my about Ryder is that he isn’t as hungry for the puck as some other guys. There was a play tonight on the right side of the net, the Hab player went into the boards to get it and fished it out but Ryder was too slow coming across from just to the left. Not the end of the world but a Plekanec or Kostitsyn would have put himself in the passing lane and not stayed where the net was blocking the pass. Splitting hairs… or “it’s all in the details”? You pick. Just don’t slag me – I’m tired. Ryder played pretty well okay? As some say – maybe he just needs a change of scenery to a place where he’s given some fresh air. God only knows why that whole line has gone soft this last couple of months.

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  139. Ed says:

    lol! You and me both.

  140. TradeRyder says:

    Like magic. Take Breezer and Slackinski out of the line-up and we start to win again! No surprise with Kovy and Pleks on the PK. From where I sit, they are the two most intelligent and skilled players on the team.

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    Let the kids play… let the non-performers watch or walk.

  141. Shobud says:

    You bring a player in now and the chemistry will be gone.. The young guys will think, I guess I am not good enough or am I going to be replaced.. It ok to want these ( STARS ) but we don’t need them.. What is this horses*** about a big center..Will he be faster that a small center..Give me the small guy with heart..As for the big players I noticed that big tough philly team took a pounding last night

  142. The Teacher says:

    I know we are strong, but do you really think we have a #3-4 in the next two years? I’m not sure about that, it would be asking the young’uns for a lot.

  143. Jonnyboy says:

    Besides the first line, what chemsity is on this team. The 2nd line should be our first, but due to a lack of chemisty is not. PLEASE take away the 2nd line’s chemisty, and replace it with something new.

  144. 24 Cups says:

    True, but he makes $6 mil a year and rarely plays 60 games a year because he is so injury prone. Just too brittle.

    The Original 24 Cups

  145. Ian G Cobb says:

    I like the way you think SHOBUD

  146. Ian G Cobb says:

    One 20th of the game is putting the puck in the net. The rest of the time is spent trying to keep the puck away from our net. Which is a much more important responsibility that has to be carried out if we are to be successful. All our lines are being extremely successful doing there job. We certainly do not want any body from outside the franchise coming in here to screw up what we have built. TEAM CHEMISTRY.!! Other franchises would kill for what Gainey has developed here in three short years.

  147. habsgod says:

    THE FIRST PLACE MONTREAL CANADIENS!THE FIRST PLACE MONTREAL CANADIENS!!BOY DOES THAT SOUND GOOD!!!DON’T STOP BELEIVEING MY FELLOW HABS FANS!WE ARE GOING TO THE EASTERN CONFERENCE FINAL THIS YEAR!!RIGHT THIS DOWN AND WHEN IT HAPPENS WE’LL BRING IT BACK UP AGAIN WHEN IT HAPPENS!AND IT WILL.

  148. jack waisberg says:

    With regard to your comment that we need another defenceman as a priority
    is not in this fans eyes.At this point i will say that i would stack our present 6 starters against any other team and having Streit and Dandenault
    gives os options and depth not seen here in years.
    Oh yes i didn’t mention Brisebois as i feel he should be offered to any team that woyuld give hyim a chance to play.Agree or disagree this is MY
    opinion.

  149. Shobud says:

    I am not blaming B.G. I am just pointing out that everyone wants to sign a big name.. Forget the trade bulls***.. We have a superstar on the team and a couple more in the making and they fit with the other guys we got..The last thing we need is Hossa or somebody like that.. If we get one watch us go right out the door

  150. Hoegarden says:

    All this trade talk with the GM’s in Naples.
    Just look at the Sens since the trade with the Canes. It’s only 3 games you might say but three losses none the less.
    And Murry has made it clear on TSN that he is still shopping for a D-man and one big time scorer to complement his second line.
    Needless to say the word around the dressing room in Ottawa these days is “ok, who’s next”.

    Apparently, Gainey has been quoted this afternoon saying that he would only be interested in a “A-Player”, meaning no Randy Mckay or whatever.

    Let’s not expect much.

    In Bob’s shoes, I would let Huet go for a first and second rounder.

  151. Shobud says:

    I don’t look for mistakes I don’t care as long as I can understand whats been said

  152. T-roy West says:

    Don’t mean to harp Ian but I asked the question,” What does Huet do that is better than Price”. I can name quite a bit in favor of Price. What about Huet? Also you mentioned about our defence prospects that are coming up that people might not know about. I find it hard to believe that a true hab fan wouldn’t know the talent that we have in the system. They would have to be living under a rock. I also believe we wouldn’t have to sacrifice the future to get a bonafide player for the Koivu line. We have the depth. That’s the whole point to stockpiling so many prospects. They “all” can’t play for us! We trade some for the one piece that we weren’t able to draft, simple.

  153. Shobud says:

    I though he was in the smoking room now

  154. skoehn says:

    CHECK OUT THAT PICTURE….HUET BANGING THE BOARDS AND SUPPORTING PRICE DESPITE THE FACT HE HAS BEEN KICKED ASIDE MANY TIMES THIS SEASON…CLASS ACT, TEAM PLAYER, MENTOR TO BAD THE FANS DON’T HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF CLASS YOU CAN ALL SAY HUET HAS DONE NOTHING FOR THIS TEAM. HOW I DON’T KNOW HE WAS AWESOME IN JANUARY. AND IF NOTHING ELSE GIVE HIM CREDIT FOR THE HELP SUPPORT HE HAS GIVEN PRICE AND STILL CONTINUES TO DO…. EVERY GOALIE GIVES BAD GOALS AND HAS BAD GAMES ONLY IN MONTREAL DOES THAT MEAN YOU NEED TO BE TRADED….

  155. Shobud says:

    There is no one any harder on Huet than me.. But to knock him for what he has done no way.. He has played some great games but he lets down in games he is needed..I think he is a team guy all the way..

  156. Gooner says:

    The problem most people have are that they don’t believe in the team concept. You win as a team and you lose as a team. This is where team chemisrty comes from. People always tend to want to blame one or two palyers for losing and only give credit to one or two players for winning.

  157. Blitzen says:

    CapsLock click!

  158. planet habs says:

    The problem with Higgins is: he has no idea what to do with the puck? have you seen him on a breakaway on Sunday? didn’t do anything, no shot no deke, no nothing. He just doesn’t have the skill of a Pleks, or Kostistyn .
    He’s a 3rd or 4th line winger, known better for his defensive skills.
    If he is the stumbling block for getting a top winger or center, DO IT BOB!
    players like Higgins are a dime a dozen. we should know; just take a look at our 3rd and 4th line players. each are a carbon copy of each other.
    If we don’t get a top scorer, we’re out 4 straight 1st round, that is, if we get into the playoffs. People, the eggs are hatched yet. coming into the most difficult time of the season, starting March 1st, and if we can’t beat Buffalo, NJ, Ottawa or Toronto, not making the playoffs, and wouldn’t deserve to.
    So chance to see just where we stack up to those teams. Wait before buying playoff tickets!

  159. Shobud says:

    Yes. We don’t have any We got to first place by luck

  160. Shobud says:

    Sorry A fast button

  161. Shobud says:

    Yes And wait before getting your STAR.. we will be in the playoffs and might even go all the way

  162. Ian G Cobb says:

    Shobud–Huet is the better goaler right now, but slowly Price is getting there, Price definitely handles the puck with his stick better than Huet, and is going to be much better than Huet soon. Just like our young guns on D and up front need more seasoning before we can unload there mentors. I said before the season started that it would be 2 more years before we would compete in the finals, I still believe that is true. But what a great ride that we are on. On any given night we can beat any team in this league now. We are still going to loose games along the way, but as we groom our young players, we will loose fewer and fewer.

    I can’t wait for the next one.!!

  163. Ed says:

    Shobud, I took it that 24 Cups was referring to my use of the term Amen. I used it to agree with you saying to go with the kids, and forget about Hossa. Then 24 Cups said he was willing to pay a monthly fee for that feature. I assumed he meant Amen (Heaven). I could be totally out in left field, but that’s how I took it. Then 24 Cups said computers are hard enough for guys like him, and I agreed and said they are hard enough for me too. I hope this clarifies it as I see it. Good luck.

  164. TradeRyder says:

    Your enthusiasm is contagious Ian!

    You’re right – it’s an exciting team to watch… and a fun process too.

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  165. T-roy West says:

    Sorry Ian but I’ve got to disagree. Huet is not the better goalie right now and that is quite obvious I would think. I think if people were honest, they would be hard pressed to find things that Huet is better at than Price.

  166. Ian G Cobb says:

    We will not go after anyone, we don’t need anyone. We have the horse’s in the barn now to compete for the cup next year, and we should make some noise in the playoffs this year. This franchise, with both clubs in Hamilton and in Mtl. are in the best shape for a long and prosperes run into the future since Sam Polack days. Thanks a million Bob Gainey.! I am loving the ride.!

  167. TradeRyder says:

    Except for his stats, save percentage, little things like that.

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  168. Bill H says:

    Yeah, sure thing. Everyone knew Brier and Souray would be a bust this year. Everyone but Gainey. He’s a fool.

    Fact is that he didn’t sign the 2 players because he thought they were overpriced. Souray was considered key to our PP unit, which was the single most important part of the team game last year. Brier was the high scoring forward that would solve Montreal’s 5-on-5 problems. That was the conventional wisdom. Gainey was right in prioritizing the signing of Markov, who he has locked in long term. When Souray was asking too much, he let him walk and signed Hamrlik who has been a solid addition to the club. He tried to sign a high scoring UFA, but wisely didn’t get caught up in bidding wars and let the other GMs over pay.

    I expect you were part of the lynch mob that gathered outside the Bell Centre when BG let Souray go and Brier sign with Phillie, screaming because Gainey was incompetent for not signing them. That’s one of the weaknesses of this site. People like you can change their tune and rewrite history because there is no way to go back and check what you said 8 months ago. Its easy for people like you to pretend that you are smarter than Gainey. But everyone knows you are full of s**t.

  169. mrstewart61 says:

    Shobud & Bill H: Bob DID try to sign Briere, Breire rejected the offer.

  170. HKisses says:

    If Ryder keeps the goals comming…..Then we won’t have to make ne moves…

  171. Ian G Cobb says:

    True, Price has played very well since being recalled and he is going to get very much more consistent and confident in his game. But don’t forget this is one of the toughest posisions to perfect in hockey. He is very mature in his game for a 20 year old, but he has a very long way to go yet . In as much as the speed, tecneak, and mental composure in the NHL takes time to acquire.

    He is going to be a star in this league, but there are going to be bumps in the road that he will have to deal with, without loosing his confidence. Slow and sure is the best way to season a young star.

  172. Bill H says:

    You know what I find to be one of the most puzzling things about the people on this site?

    Take a look at A. Kostitsyn. He’s brilliant. He’s our future. He is a blossoming superstar.

    Now, let’s look at C. Higgins. He’s a bum. He’s in a slump. He’s lost his scoring touch. Trade him for a bag of pucks.

    Now let’s look at the stats of each.
    ————Age—-Goals—-Assists—-Pts—-+/-
    Kostitsyn—23——18———20——-38—-+6
    Higgins—–24——18———18——-36—-+3

    Okay, Kostitsyn is a year younger, and he got benched for a few games early in the season, so he’s played fewer games. But he’s also played with Kovy and Pleks. Don’t tell me that doesn’t account for a few points.

    What would the point total be if Kostitsyn had played most of the season with Ryder and Koivu, while Higgins played with Kovy and Pleks?

    So why is Kostitsyn a hero and Higgins a goat on this web page? Don’t get me wrong. I am delighted and excited with Kostitsyn. But why are people so hard on Higgins?

  173. ebk says:

    don’t know, Higgins is a good hockey player. might be that people set unrealistic expectations and then get mad at the player when he doesn’t measure up to what they thought. Just a guess.

    The main reason I like Kostitsyn better than Higgins is because I think his offensive potential is much higher. He reminds me at times of Marion Hossa. Strong on the puck, can beat defenders one on one, passes the puck very well and has a bullet for a shot.

    Higgins is a little different in that I don’t think he passes the puck as well and he seems to get tunnel vision when he has the puck. All this being said Higgins should be a 30-30 man for years to come.

    Kostitsyn, I think has a higher ceiling than that but I could be guilty of setting unrealistic expectaions myself.

  174. Bill H says:

    If you read my post, you will see that nowhere did I say BG didn’t try to sign Briere. BG was seriously looking at several UFA that would address Monteal’s needs. The key to that is that he tried. Briere was coming off a career year with 32G 63A 95Pts +17. And additionally, he plays an exciting game and is a home grown Quebecer. But BG did not sign Briere because he was asking too much and he didn’t want to come to Montreal. What would have been foolish would be if BG didn’t try to sign him. Its only the clairvoyant posters on this site that claim they knew Briere would crash and burn after signing for big bucks.

  175. HKisses says:

    IMO People expect every player that is expected to score…to atleast score every game….but that is just not gonna always happen… If people watched DETROITS latest games….They have lost their last 6 games… and their top forwards (Datsyuk ,Zetterberg) are not producing right now… So everyone has a slump, its part of the game…. If people put Higgy as a goat then they don’t know what they are talking about…Every player is part of the sucess the Habs are having now….Higgins is a very skilled player, and so is A.Kostitsyn …. the Game where Latendresse scored 2 goals… We woudln’t have those 2 points if he didn’t score those two goals which ended up being the winning goals…… So what im trying to say is every player we have sitting in the pressbox and on the ice are all part of the sucesss, So no need to hate …If you don’t liek the way the player is playing , don’t go aroudn asking for a trade…… Instead support them, otherwise your not a true Habs Fan

  176. TradeRyder says:

    Yeah but….

    You have to look at the player he was at the end of last year when he was scoring goals short-handed on break-aways, and the player he was for awhile this year, and wonder where THAT Chris Higgins has gone. I think that’s the real CH… he’s got the tools but lost his rythm. No wonder playing with different line-mates all the time. Even good players don’t always respond well to change. Higgins role has changed with all these fast, skilled players…. but I believe the talent is there. He needs to regain his game.

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  177. Chuck says:

    …or banished to the minors. ;)

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  178. habsguy says:

    you really think you could get a first AND SECOND rounder for Huet…Buddy come on …

  179. Ian G Cobb says:

    Some people have a hard time to get this picture about Ryder, he was never a kid that was suppose to score 30 goals every year, but he was the best that we had for a couple of years to play on the power play, and he got a bunch. Same as Souray got a bunch as he was all we had at the time to do the job, and he also was not that good of a two way hockey player. But Ryder is a two way player, he foreckecks, and backchecks, he works the boards well and he positions himself well on the ice and takes care of his defenceive responsibilities. Goals for us are not a problem, we are third in the league, it is the goals against that have to be addressed if we are to move forward. We are in the 20th place in a 30 team league, not nearly good enough and this is a total team stat. Ryder will be a member of this Stanly Cup finals team next year. But just not in the roll that he has been in for the past couple of years.

  180. Shiloh says:

    Wow – great comparison. I am a huge Kostitsyn fan and I like Higgins as well. Maybe we all expected Higgins to make the jump to the next level in terms of goal scoring. It could be that Higgins will end up being a solid 25-30 goal man who plays with a grinding physical presence – someone who will be very valuable. As far as Kostitsyn goes, the sky’s the limit. He has an amazing upside. But your numbers make an excellent point.

  181. TradeRyder says:

    Great point Bill. And nicely illustrated! Diagrams and everything!
    And good point about who his linemates are… that’s quite different. But Kost is on his way up and a truly dynamic force to watch. Higgins seems less of the player he was for some unknown reason. Two snake-bitten linemates maybe? Still, your point stands. Higgins is a veyr good ockey player and we’re lucky to have him. And he’ll probably bust out of the slump and with numbers like that we’ll forget it ever happened

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  182. 24 Cups says:

    Ian – That’s the whole problem with Ryder – he has tanked, and Carbo has gone sour on him, in his UFA year of his contract. In a 30 team league someone is going to sign him long term, especially in light of his young age. Would you, and other posters, be willing to give this guy a 3 year contract at $3 mil a year to come back and be a Hab? Can we take that gamble? Not in my books. We can get a guy for $750000 to do what Ryder has done (or hasn’t done) for $3 mil this year.

    I’m not here to run the guy into the ground – it’s just good business sense not to bring him back.

    The Original 24 Cups

  183. Ian G Cobb says:

    Ryder In And We Win.!!

  184. 46_14_27 says:

    Maybe only 2 available. Sundin and Marleau. Obviously Marleau would be cheaper with the year he’s having. Maybe a few games in Montreal would snap him out of his funk. Either way, he’s big,he’s mobile, he’s smart, and not bad in the faceoff circle. An added bonus for the faithfull in PQ……..he’s french.

    Pull the trigger Bob.

  185. HKisses says:

    Exactly…For the kind of money Ryder is getting right now….He should be producing more ,thats why he is making that much in the first place…. He had shown he was capable of scoring,but now that isn’t so much the case and he is playing with the same linemates…So we can’t exactly survive on one line….we need the first two lines to produce ATLEAST….Kovi line is amazing, But Koivu’s line has to produce more….If Koivu’s line can produce and play the same way we are now, We will be unstoppable…..

  186. HKisses says:

    JUST IN…….Forsberg won’t return to NHL this year….AS PER TSN

  187. Shobud says:

    Sorry Ian We are going after it this year.. Maybe we won’t get it, but we are going after it.. LOL .. I agree we don’t need anyone.. they would only draw us down.. Don’t disturb a good thing and we have a good thing

  188. Shobud says:

    How about Kovy last year Everyone wanted him gone.. Still want to get rid of him..Ryder might break out just when we need him most.. I would love to see it

  189. 24 Cups says:

    Shobud – There is still that chance for this year – we really don’t have anyone else that can score as a 3rd right winger after Ryder. I guess it’s kind of like Huet, only Gainey knows what is being offered in a trade and whether it’s worth it to keep or move a UFA player at the deadline.

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  190. 24 Cups says:

    Ed – Point of information – Your 13:48 post is exactly how I saw things. My comments had nothing to do with hockey (or related posts) and everything to do with spellchecking and computers.

    The Original 24 Cups

  191. wd40 says:

    lol. :)

    i think it would be much harder to implement on the back-end. i know you hate the idea, but Firefox does come with a built in spell-checker (unlike internet explorer) that works really well. any typo-s or spelling mistakes you make are automatically underlined in red.

  192. Ian G Cobb says:

    Again let me tell you. It matters not who gets the goals, we get plenty of them to win every game. But team defense is what wins championships every year. Just like in football, all the hero’s are catching or scoring touchdowns. Only the most astute know how important the D and O linemen are.

    You can have the big O in Washington, Crosby & Malkin in Pittsburg, but they will never win a cup without a supporting cast that can keep the puck possession game on the far side of the red line and out of your own end.

    They have spread there cap to thin on the offensive side of the game.

    Even Ottawa, as good as they are offensively, will never get there. They just don’t have enough defensive minded players. Come playoff time I hope we get em. We will roll 4 lines and they will again wonder ,how come.

    IAN

  193. HKisses says:

    Wat about Briere? Higgins has just as many goals as him…I think he has more then yapping down pat…. Its liek saying Talusty likes to show off his naked body to camera’s offf ice …but can’t show off to camera’s on the ice…. He clearly has the naked part down pat….Ur name should be Facts-For-Idiots

  194. wd40 says:

    “He loves yapping!” … you got to be kidding me. LOL. does anyone else see the absolute supreme irony in this comment? oh man, that’s a good one F-F-S. one of your best!

  195. Habs_008 says:

    I dont think Higgins is a goat, i think he is a great young player, they both are. He is in a slump, but seemed to get out of it with a couple of goals last week. I wont be surprised if Gainey does nothing on trade deadline day. I hope we keep Higgins.

  196. HKisses says:

    OMG…ur so….ERR….Its half way through the season wake up…IF NHL teams don’t realize what player to be watching out for then they are gettign facts from you……SUNDIN SCORES HALF OF HIS GOALS OFF OF SKATES……your point?

  197. Shobud says:

    And those goals should not count I understand now

  198. Ian G Cobb says:

    Your right, we are going after it this year for sure, I just was meaning that in sept. I was predicting that they would be bonified contenders for the cup in two years. No one has been more pleased with the progress this year than me, as I expected. We have a lot of kids that need a little more seasoning, if they pull it off this year, no one will be more excited than I.

  199. Habs_008 says:

    Price Named Thrid star for the week.

  200. Ian G Cobb says:

    We are in third place in a 30 team league with our goals for dept.

    Rose colored facts.!

  201. Shobud says:

    How many peop;e were upset because B.G. did not sign Briere.. Its so nice to want all these STAR players but are they going to work out..Thats why I don’t want Hossa.. Why are you so sure he would be so good here..No thanks.. Go with the kids and you might find someone better in your own backyard

  202. Scotty90 says:

    I think F-F-S should be on ‘Juste Pour Rire’. Way to go ‘V.I.’, keep your clueless posts coming!

  203. showey47 says:

    F-F-S seems angry, i guess he didn’t like my poem.

  204. The Teacher says:

    Ian,

    I agree with you. Team defence. We have a lot of offence at present.

    I think our #1 priority next year has to be to get a #3-4 defenceman. Do you agree?

  205. Scotty90 says:

    must have forgotten his meds today

  206. showey47 says:

    RE:The rest of the league is JUST starting to pay attention to Kovalev.

    The guy has been in the league for 14 years, if nobody has caught on to him by now well i guess they won’t start any time soon. Once again i prove you to be clueless.

  207. Richard B says:

    Ryder didn’t score 4 goals??!!
    put him back in the corporate box, quick.

  208. Ian G Cobb says:

    In other words we are so quick, the other team has to take penalties, then they are dead meat. We win again.!

  209. HABZ 24 says:

    habz are tied for 1st in the east. no need for trades.hossas a playoff BUMM always was.rumors of havlat too, hes injury prone, dont need anyone.go habz go!!

  210. Shobud says:

    You know I have been hard on Huet if you read my posts.. I don’t just condem a player.. I try to figure out what he does wrong, so I have watched Heut all year.. I think what happens with him is he loses concentration.. He plays so good sometimes it can’t be luck.. The guy is good but he is not in focus all the time I think he should take a course on positive thinking.. I think he lets his guard down and you can’t do that..As for the rest of the team, don’t change anything.. The ones in a slump will come out and maybe just at the right time

  211. HKisses says:

    NOOOOO IAN…..according to FACTS-FOR-IDIOTS….We have to score off skates liek sundin….whats a powerplay?

  212. Scotty90 says:

    Higgins is just that kind of guy. He could be wearing the “C” some day because of his out-going personality and leadership qualities. Now as far as boasting… I think it is our turn to ask you to remove your glasses… your shit colored glasses that is, that grossly distorts everything yu see. Time for you to make peace with yourself and forget the Chelios trade to Chicago. Hopefully you will come to appreciate the Habs for the true champions that they are.

  213. T-roy West says:

    Everyone new that Briere was the last person that we needed but Gainey tried to sign him to an outragious contract. Same goes for Souray. The majority of people knew deep down that he was a reliability but Gainey offered him the same money that Hamrlik got. What if these players had of excepted Gainey’s offers? Not good! Those moves would have hurt this team I believe. It’s all right to question Gainey because sometimes he makes not so good decisions!

  214. habsguy says:

    FIRST PLACE and you guys can still sling mud..!!!!!!UNBLIEVEABLE HOW YOU CAN CRITICIZE ANYTHING GAINEY HAS DONE.

  215. Ian G Cobb says:

    Teach– I think we got em now, a lot of people don’t know this but we are so strong in D in our organization, it is unbelievable. Now there young and most people don’t know there names yet, but we have la crem de la crem learking just out of view. These kids will take there place with us and stay here for years to come.

  216. Hoegarden says:

    Ryder must have had a bowl of whatever Bouillon had the other night. It had been a long time since I’d seen him come out of the corner with the puck with two Flyers still chasing him.

    The key to the Habs success has to go to Carbo for the simple reason that he has this team totally united, “all for one, one for all”. Last night, Koivu was the first player to rush over and give Price the win-hug; Beautiful I say.

    Our D gets a +A for this w/end. On both nights,Philly had a 5 on 3 and could not buy a goal. Yes, Price had a lot to do with it but the D also did it’s job splendidly. Gorges is making it clear that he belongs too. And what about Kovy and Pleks playing the PK ? Who would have thought ?

    Philly mentality; as dumb as ever with the likes of Holmgrem and especially Clarke in the shadows. They, via Stevens, tell their players how tough they are but in reality they are not so tough after all. Cote is the only one in my book who can dish it out. Even Stevens had to admit that their stupidity showed on Bouillon’s goal.

    Smolinski; my prayers finally answered. Looks like Begin wants it more than he. Good luck getting back in the lineup.

    Dandy; Are we paying attention ?

  217. Shiloh says:

    Hey Fact-Boy: Please – stay on your Ritalin. You have to be one of the worst judges of hockey I have ever been exposed to. You are delusional and moronic, but I have to always try to imagine how sad it is for Loaf fans like you who will never experience the joy we do here in Habs Nation. I am not asking for a response, but somehow I think one might be coming.

  218. 46_14_27 says:

    Go Habs Go.

    Next stop top of the conference “alone”. Home ice advantage through the playoffs. When was the last time we saw that from the greatest hockey franchise of all time? Well they aren’t there yet but if they can play the rest of their games the way they pulled off Sat/Sun, they will have no trouble staying on top. I still say a big center is the missing puzzle piece. Some of those guys that sit every other night would be good trade bait to someone. Pull the trigger Bob. Get us to the promised land this year.

    Go Habs Go.

  219. 46_14_27 says:

    Both of these guys are 20 goal scoreres or better…no matter who they play with. Not everyone can be Mike Gartner and score 30+ goals for their entire career. Kos and Higs are going to be fine and I’m going to enjoy watching them bang and score for a long time. Leave Higgins alone.

    Go Habs Go.

  220. G-Man says:

    You know, those measurements look good! :)
    Totally agree that a big center who can pass and score is necessary to put this team over the hump. Who among the sellers has this player (and is willing to part with him) with the Habs not mortgaging the future?

    Gilbert

  221. yehaken says:

    Now, if we can just stop losing to the Rangers…

  222. G-Man says:

    Higgins has become an easy target because of our great expectations. All the fans here on the site want Higgins to be the 40 goal man we all think he should be. We’re just impatient waiting for it to happen.
    The A on his jersey lets you know what Carbo and Gainey think of him.

    Gilbert

  223. yehaken says:

    I totally agree. Sidenote: Dave, it might be time to add spellchecking to the forum posting page.

  224. G-Man says:

    Baaa! Baaa! Don’t you recognize bleating when you hear it? Sheesh!

    Gilbert

  225. Shobud says:

    I think everyone is guilty of that No ones perfect tho I am very very close

  226. N.B.habs fan says:

    not to stir things up,but don,t you think if we had Briere that he might do better with such a great club.You cant blame BG for trying.you really dont know that so lay off BG…..

  227. wd40 says:

    was Shane Doan the guy behind that “french ref” controversy? he might have been on the radar, who knows, but i don’t think they can touch him now.

  228. Chuck says:

    Must be a slow day in Dorval…

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  229. 24 Cups says:

    I’m willing to pay a monthly fee for that feature!! And please, don’t tell me to download Foxtail, or Fireball, or Firefox or whatever the hell it’s called. Computer life is hard enough as it is for guys like me.

    The Original 24 Cups

  230. ZepFan2 says:

    Lol

    Hey, we can’t be sitting Smokes for long, he has a no trade clause. :o

    Can you say, scapegoat?!

  231. G-Man says:

    The past 2 seasons have been 1 season contracts with Ryder. His agent has him seeing huge $$ signs instead of focusing on doing what he does best. That’s driving to the net and shooting the bleeping puck. I still think he can score if he works at it by doing the ff: Stays in practice longer. Shows an interest in improving his game. Talks to Carbo about it.

    I would offer him less money for 2 years and see if he regards it as a challenge or walks, claiming no respect.

    Gilbert

  232. Shobud says:

    I will be right there with you LOL

  233. Shobud says:

    Yes I agree with you.. Kovy has put a few on their ass this year.. I guess they will keep their heads up now

  234. jack waisberg says:

    Gilbert I have but one word for your comment re Higgens.
    AMEN

  235. Shobud says:

    Please Bob Don’t do a thing Don’t try to repair what ain’t broke.. Bring someone in now and watch us go down in a hurry

  236. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Havalat is one of the most talanted N.H.L.’S GOING!

  237. Shiloh says:

    So how do you watch the game online?

  238. G-Man says:

    Not haiku, just hi-larious! :D

    Gilbert

  239. Shiloh says:

    Excellent – I was singing along.

  240. Scotty90 says:

    Speaking of ‘getting a life too little too late’….

    not much hope there for you buddy!

  241. Shobud says:

    What he says is true Lats needs his ass kicked for that last goal

  242. showey47 says:

    A poem for you for-fact-sakes, to the theme of rock a bye baby

    by showey

    Rock a bye fact sakes
    in your laff top
    the bottom of the standings
    your maple laffs drop

    20 games left
    laffs are close to dead last
    fact-sakes and laff nation
    can kiss my white a$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

    Its no haiku but if this doesn’t make bench talk, it had no cred

  243. HKisses says:

    HAHAHAHAHA……Showey47 for MVP…. That was very entertaining…..maybe you can go on RDS and present that

  244. habs12345 says:

    hossa coming to montreal will only do nothing good the better decision is to remain status quo and make a few minor upgrades and in the offseason that is were you go after a guy like hossa and you dont loose guyzz like obyrne higgins chipchura at the same time

  245. mrstewart61 says:

    and ask smolinski to waive his ntc.

  246. Hossa is Coming says:

    Why you dont like me? I’m like your superstar Alex Kovalev… I refuse to listen to your coach Guy Carbonnneau and play my own game, which means winning, Yes?

    _______________
    “WE WANT VINCE! WE WANT MARIAN!”

  247. The Teacher says:

    you sign for 5 million dollars? OK!

  248. habs12345 says:

    yes but why trade for you when we can attempt to get you for next to nothing except your inflated salary in the off season

  249. Hossa is Coming says:

    Becausue if you dont want me now, I’m gonna be hurt. I’m gonna pretend I’m still interested in your team, at the end of the season, and I’ll keep pretending I want to join (but I’m just pretending), and thats gonna increase my salary when I sign with Philedelphia. My buddy Dan, taught me that one.
    _______________
    “WE WANT VINCE! WE WANT MARIAN!”

  250. RudeMood19 says:

    LOL guys did you see when Vandermeer dropped the gloves, Gorges pointed his stick in the direction of the Philly net. He was referring to the fact we had just scored.

    That was funny.

    What wasn’t funny, and was downright stupid is how Bégin got a penalty for that hit.

  251. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    at the end of the first…
    let me be the first to say….THE REAL BEGIN IS BACK!
    ———
    1. ONLY BELIVEAU CAN CONVINCE LECAVALIER…
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP

  252. planet habs says:

    why is Koivu Ryder and Higgins on the PP? when’s the last time that line has scored a PP goal? it’s ridiculous. the only line to score on the PP is the Kovalev line. Kovalev should stay on the ice for the entire 2 minutes, otherwise we won’t score. Hey our scoring not great lately. only 11 goals in last 6 games. that’s less than 2 goals/game. pick it up boys, and start finishing. If only Koivu could learn how to put the puck into an OPEN NET!

  253. N.B.habs fan says:

    Give them a break I thought they played good,ryder is trying hard wait till the end off the game then you can shout at that line ,but please give them some time to play,and hopefully the will prove us wrong .GO HABS GO..

  254. Sulemaan says:

    Nicely done Mr. Bouillon.

    (Thanks to Hoegarden, JonnyBoy, Blitzen for the details to watch the game online.)

  255. postie jim says:

    Hi Sulmaan– It is Ian posting on Posty Jim’s Computer. My hockey friend. I am so tecky now, i get to show someone how to work this site. You can give him an answer O.K. Tough game Ian

  256. Jonnyboy says:

    All worked out for you?

    Its auctually the first time I have ever watched one online. The quality wasn’t that bad. I moved my chair back a foot and was all set.

  257. Mike says:

    We need more conssisnt goal scoring. maybe the higgins koivu sergei line can do it, maybe not. But we need 2 strong scoring lines.

    Waiting to see if there is a trade. if not, GET RYDER IN. or call someone up.

  258. Vecs says:

    Maybe if we keep Ryder in the press box we can re sign him for a three year deal really cheap after the season. That would be nice, if unlikely.

  259. HKisses says:

    TSN AND RDS …Reportign that PRICE gets the call tonight….This should be fun game to watch

  260. wild flower says:

    Maybe Marleau even up for Ryder – if the Sharks pick up most of his contract. I’m not sure either of these players can make next year’s Habs.

  261. habfan53 says:

    CBO says teams can no longer pick up portions of traded players contract.

  262. The Teacher says:

    So Price is in, Carbo does stick by his word then. We all want to see how he does and I’m sure Carbo does also.

    Here’s hoping for another win.

  263. Hossa is Coming says:

    Hello my friends. It is me Marian Hossa!

    I wish to join your Canadiens team!
    All I ask in return is to be fair to my former Altanta team. Please allow your superstars Patrice Brisebois, Michael Ryder and Bryan Smolinski to be traded for me.
    Is this Ok?

    _______________
    “WE WANT VINCE! WE WANT MARIAN!”

  264. The Teacher says:

    You will have to sign a contract paying you only 5 million a year. OK!

  265. habs12345 says:

    i pray hossa doesnt come to montreal in a trade

  266. Ed says:

    Yes, it is okay, and very funny. You must stop mocking fans who suggest this trade of those 3 superstars for you.

  267. habs12345 says:

    flyers will come out flying this game just like the caps did a few weeks ago habs better be ready tonight because 1 goal wont win the game again unless price shuts them out again which wont happen

  268. Bill says:

    Good call for me. You don’t sit a guy after a shut-out.

    http://yearofthehab.blogspot.com

  269. Hossa is Coming says:

    Dont worry my hab fan, I will score the goals

    ___________________________________________________________________________
    “WE WANT VINCE! WE WANT MARIAN!”

  270. Habs_008 says:

    I hope you do come, and sign for a few years. If we have Hossa Saku Higgins, and then our reg #1 unit, we can be unstopable….

  271. T-roy West says:

    Why is that people have been saying all season, how good Huet is but yet people also say that we can’t get anything for him at the trade deadline? I guess he can’t be that good if we can’t even get a good draft pick for him.

  272. Shiloh says:

    He is a good goalie but not an elite goalie like Price is likely to become. And, he’s unrestricted after this year so he’d only be a rental. so the question might be do we trade him for very little or keep him as insurance. I agree with you that his value to a team may well be as a solid backup. How low an offer would you take?

  273. Hossa is Coming says:

    Ok. Sounds good to me guys! Atlanta is too warm anyway.

    _______________
    “WE WANT VINCE! WE WANT MARIAN!”

  274. T-roy West says:

    I think that he is gone after this year anyways. I would prefer to package him but I would take a first rounder or a really good prospect.

  275. Shiloh says:

    I’d take a first rounder too. Remember, he was a throw-in in the Bonk deal. He did alright for us though.

  276. Da Hema says:

    This was a solid road game by the Boys tonight–with the exception of that bum Cote putting in a late goal. Price looked calm and collected, and the team played a gritty game. I used to be concerned the Boys were potentially vulnerable to a physical game, but they played physical tonight. I am beginning to believe they can withstand intense playoff hockey. Sergei Kostitsyn is going to be a valuable forward when he grows and matures. I never would have thought I would thank Dale Hunter (!!!), but thank you for developing Sergei.

    I am having a difficult time understanding why Ryder keeps getting benched. He hits players, his skating appears stronger, and his shot will always keep the opposition on their toes. I scratch my head when Ryder sits and Smolinski and Dandenault play. I cannot even begin speculating why Carbo chooses to sit Ryder, but Ryder is certainly a positive presence when he does play. If these trade rumours are true about Ryder, I fear we may regret moving him. At least Ryder does not disappear as, say, Dandenault does after he plays more than one game in a row.

    At any rate, let us rejoice! Tied for first place in the Eastern conference. Well done Guy and Bob!
    _________________________________________
    “It’s not a lie if you believe it.”
    –George Costanza, “Seinfeld”

  277. nightmare_49 says:

    Nice post, De Hema.

  278. habs12345 says:

    there wouldnt be a higgins if they trade for hossa

  279. Hossa is Coming says:

    Yes, and I would like to do something different for your team when i join. Win some faceoffs!

    _______________
    “WE WANT VINCE! WE WANT MARIAN!”

  280. Sulemaan says:

    You can’t sit a guy after a shutout. It’s the right call and Price deserves to play. Carbo always goes with the hot goalie. I hope Price plays well again although it might make things tough for Huet to return. With the trade deadline around the corner that certainly makes things interesting.

    With regards to Hossa and all the potential trade options, ask yourself this question. If you were Don Waddell (GM of Atlanta Thrashers) what would you ask for in return from the Montreal Canadiens for Hossa? My answer would be: Christopher Higgins, Ryan O’Byrne, Kyle Chipchura and a 1st Round Pick.

    Now ask yourself, if you are Bob Gainey who building a championship team through the draft – would you make that kind of trade for a player who is about to be 30 years old and will be demanding at least $7M per year in salary? (Remember the taxation issue in Quebec…)

    If you are going to make a deal that is going to cost you, you address the major deficiencies in your team: namely a big centreman and/or power forward who is tough and can drop the gloves.

  281. Shiloh says:

    You’re right on with regard to Hossa. We can’t be giving away our future for him. Atlanta has to consider that they may lose him for nothing so maybe the price wouldn’t be as high as Higgins, O’Byrne, Chips and a #1. After the last couple of games I really don’t want to lose O’Byrne. He is playing sort of like Komisarek just before he busted out. I want that big defence back there for years to come.

  282. showey47 says:

    I would rather plug the holes on our bottom 2 lines and maybe find a good second line winger who is big and can score. I would not part with any of the core youth for hossa. We are third in the league in goals for and 20th against, scoring is not our problem. Offence wins games but defence wins championships

  283. JF says:

    I think Hossa would demand nearer $8M to play in Montreal, given the taxes and everything; he turned down $7M from Atlanta. There’s no way Gainey would pay him that much, even if it didn’t mean trading away some of our young core players and prospects. If Gainey can deal Ryder and maybe Dandenault for someone who can play a tough physical game and win faceoffs and who won’t cost us any pieces of our future, he’ll do it. Otherwise he’ll stand pat.

  284. skoehn says:

    HUET WAS SAT AFTER HIS SHUT OUT

  285. wd40 says:

    hmm… so the Flyers come away from the 2-game series with 2 concussions (Downey and Tolpelko) on 2 clean hits. In the end, we out-hit the flyers without being goons. The Flyers were head-hunting BIG TIME in the third period.

  286. Shiloh says:

    I agree with Price getting the call. He’s hot and the Flyers have to be wondering if they can score on him. I’d like to see Ryder in for Dandenault.

  287. showey47 says:

    i agree, even though ryder has been struggling all season, he still brings more than dandy. Its also hard to get anything for ryder via trade or try to get his confidence back by scoring goals while sitting in the pressbox.

  288. wd40 says:

    yep. as much as I simply can’t understand what happened to the poor lad from my mother’s homeland, I think he’s getting a lousy ride. ryder. heh. i crack myself up sometimes. anyway, he’s still better than dandenault, no question. but the poor fella was stinking up the Koivu line.


    GP G A PTS +/- PIM
    Michael Ryder 49 8 10 18 -3 18
    Mathieu Dandenault 52 7 5 12 -11 32

  289. mrstewart61 says:

    Good point. We need SOLID (not like Smo) 3rd and 4th line players. IMO, our d-men are solid enuf, but maybe it’s the defensive capabilities of our forwards that is lacking. Chipchura should be back! Dallas is looking for 2nd line scoring. Maybe Ryder for a good, steady two-way forward. Also, as I have mentioned lately, Chris Gratton could be a good 3rd/4th line centre. Our 4 centres would be Pleks, Koivu, Gratton, Chipchura (move Lapierre to RW). Still, Hossa would look nice on Koivu’s wing, but I’m not willing to give away a lot of roster players for him. Maybe WE can sign him in the off-season??

  290. The Teacher says:

    Yes, I do.

    He could just as easily went with Huet, and I would have understood why as well.

  291. The Teacher says:

    Let’s worry about what happens tonight first LOL.

  292. The Teacher says:

    THAT IS #9 TRADE RYDER.

  293. Ed says:

    Yes, 10 healthy scratches and counting. Why would anyone sign a contract where they are not going to play. Plus the Habs are winning without him, so they need to get something, no matter what, in return before he signs with Boston.

  294. showey47 says:

    lmao, maybe pot one or two hotdogs buts thats about it.

  295. G-Man says:

    Solid win against Briere the Invisible and the Goon Squad. Didn’t like the last goal allowed. No excuse for this late in the game let down stuff.

    I don’t like the way teams crash the Habs net. Someone has to pay big time so it no longer continues. Either that or another in the long line of rule changes is in order. When a goalie is making a save, all his balance and coordination is going into it. When you add a 200 pounder charging in to hit the goalie, well, that’s where injuries occur. The answer is simple: Price and Huet need to take a page out of the Billy Smith school of hockey. “You skate into my crease, I swing my stick at you full force.” Pushing other teams’ players away after they’ve run the goalie is too late. They have to be stopped before.

    Gilbert

  296. G-Man says:

    Baaa! Baaa!

    Gilbert

  297. Blitzen says:

    You must be a Leaf fan. How’s that Sundin trade going for ya?

  298. Habs93 says:

    Stevens, although not as animated as Carbo, was doing his own version by muuttering something after each Philly penalty.
    The problem is two fold. 1 – The majority of players have lost respect for each other. Body checking was intended to separate the puck from an opponent not separate his head from his shoulders. Where’s all the open ice hitting gone. Now the hitters need the assistance of the boards to KO an opponent.
    2 – Hockey has the poorest officiating in sport. It is not only inconsistent between officiating teams from game to game it is inconsistent within each game. A hook is determined by the placement of the stick and not whether the opponebt’s progress was impeded. But a concussion hit on a player who has released the puck and is 30 ft away is OK..
    Go figure..-

  299. HKisses says:

    UR an idiot….No one here is talkign about the cup….We are tired for first…If you don’t liek it go to the Leafs Inside out(which u don’t got,because we the best fans)……Carbo is the man for this team and he knows what he is doing along side his assistant coachs…. How about those Last place Leafs?Who you planning on picking as ur first rounder? And who you gonna trade him for? Don forget ur Trademark….NO TRADE CLAUSE

  300. Blitzen says:

    Lecavalier got away with a hit to Kovy’s chin. What was your point again?

    Bégin hit the guy from the front side, shoulder to shoulder. The Ref who called the penalty was the one who was behind Bégin and couldn’t see the hit properly. I’m thinking he thought Bégin went for the head. And anyway, how did Smith not get an instigator penalty on that play? The refs just stunk up the joint for both teams tonight.

    Anyways, with all the talk about how the Habs need an enforcer, I’m glad we have guys like Bouillon and Bégin willing to take the body despite not being Parros-like in size.

  301. Blitzen says:

    Let me repeat: NHL refs suck from game to game. They’re like a box of chocolates that way. Flyers got away with a hit from behind near the boards on AKoz last night.

  302. Shobud says:

    Sorry You better watch it a couple more times.. He came off his feet after the hit which is very normal Ever see a car hit something .. the ass end always comes off the ground.. Its the same with hocky..You hit someone stright on and you are going to lift..

  303. Shobud says:

    Better watch it again

  304. HKisses says:

    Left his feet after the hit….

  305. nightmare_49 says:

    What was the difference between Begin’s hit and the hit on K1 just before the cube’s goal , that guy left his feet. No penalty.

  306. mrstewart61 says:

    Sundin got away with a cross-check to Komi’s throat!

  307. mjames says:

    Begin’s hit was no that clean. Begin left his feet. It was also bordering on charging. I know if Philly had done that to us we would have been upset. Let’s be objective when viewing things.

    mjames

  308. showey47 says:

    ryder needs to play a linemates who control the play and he just fly’s in under the radar with his stick on the ice. We all see he has a hard time skating and stick handling at the same time. If he ever gets paired with vinny or joe thornton type of player, he will regain his form.

  309. Blitzen says:

    The refs stunk it up for both teams last night. Happy?

  310. Blitzen says:

    The Habs are virtually tied with the Sens for 1st in the East and Carbo doesn’t know the rules? I guess you’re one of those who subscribe to the fantasy that the team is winning despite him. Last year and early this year, I was a Carbo basher, but I’m thinking he’s way better than I thought then.

    Do you think that Maybe if Stevens showed any kind of emotion, the refs would talk to him too? His team is on a 7-game skid and he looks like he’s locked up a playoff spot. Or like he simply doesn’t care. I guess once the gooning strategy fails, his toolbox is empty.

  311. HKisses says:

    Man who cares if Carbo talks to the refs alot….He is competetive…simple… Wat a stupid observation! Has nothign to do with the win and the postion we are in now…..

  312. usversusthem says:

    You sure pay a lot of attention to the Habs for someone who seems to hate them so. That’s pretty strange behaviour, I gotta say. For instance, I find most TV programs to be boring and trashy schlock, so I save myself the trouble and don’t watch them. You should try that approach, maybe. I bet Carbo’s attitude towards the refs wouldn’t bother you at all if you didn’t watch Habs games. Think about it.

  313. NLhabsfan says:

    WHAT DO YOU EXPECT!!

  314. wd40 says:

    actually i feel really sorry for him. first, he’s a leafs fan. second, if when I retire, my “fun” comes from cage-rattling on the maple leafs blog, god, just shoot me now.

  315. mrstewart61 says:

    All his observations are stupid. He just rips everybody; he’s a hypocrite.

  316. habs12345 says:

    i would be interested to see how much holik would cost from the thrashers
    he would be absolutly perfect with the habs

  317. Habs64 says:

    The Price is Right and all is well in Habsland on this Monday Morning.

  318. mrstewart61 says:

    Very mature response. That’s what makes this site great. Most people are passionate about our Habs yet reasonable folk. Most… :)

  319. HKisses says:

    I hope Ryder stays in the lineup for next game…..

  320. Shobud says:

    I hope Carbo leaves him in and leaves him alone..He will come back to what he was or better

  321. habsguy says:

    I’ve got to step in here, I’m all for good clean hard hitting hockey, I don’t like all the head shots that I see happenening now.
    I didn’t see the game lastnight but I did see a replay of the Begin hit, I didn’t see Begin on the replay until he came into the picture on the TSN replay, it looked to me like he didn’t stride for at least 10 or 11 feet, he hit shoulder to shoulder, and his feet didn’t leave the ice until contact was made, result, clean hit.
    Would I like it if I were a Flyer, NO. And personally I don’t like to see guys trying to hurt the other guy.
    Scott Stevens played his little game for years and I thought he was one of the dirtiest ever !!!!

  322. Shobud says:

    I agree.. It was a clean hit..But you know when you try to make a name by been a dirty team like phil. then this is what happens..There is pride involved here too.. You have to show them you are not going to back down..Like the school bully..He is tough till you smack him hard in the face..Thats the end of trying to push you around

  323. Ed says:

    planet habs – you said that the Koivu line could not score on the PP. I guess you might have to retract that. In case you did not notice, Koivu scored.

  324. Sulemaan says:

    Hi Postie Jim,

    Welcome to the Habs I/O site.

    Cheers,
    Sulemaan

  325. Sulemaan says:

    Hi Postie Jim,

    Welcome to the Habs I/O site.

    Cheers,
    Sulemaan

  326. The Teacher says:

    One for Ian and one for Postie Jim?

    We’ve been missing you Ian!

  327. Sulemaan says:

    Ummm….yeah….that’s it Teach! :-)

  328. HKisses says:

    Gilette must be very happy….Because i know i sure am….

  329. Shiloh says:

    Et le CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUBE!!!!


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