Game 60: Habs sweep Flyers, tied with Senators

Alex Kovalev is congratulated by teammates for his first-period goal, his 27th of the season.
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Who needs the Boston Bruins when the Canadiens have the Philadelphia Flyers to kick around?

Twenty-four hours after blanking the erstwhile Broad Street Bullies 1-0 at the Bell Centre, the Canadiens skated to a 5-3 victory at the Wachovia Centre tonight to complete a four-game season sweep of the Flyers and hand the slumping home team their seventh consecutive loss.

And don’t look now, but the Canadiens, who won their third straight and 19th road game of the season, have jumped into a tie with Ottawa atop the National Hockey League’s Eastern Conference, both teams with 73 points though the Senators hold a game in hand.

Montreal goalie Carey Price made 34 saves to earn his third victory in as many starts since last Wednesday and 12th win this season. Price yielded just four goals to Philadelphia in his three wins over them this season.

Alex Kovalev had a goal and two assists in a game that had many rough edges and featured some superb penalty killing by the Canadiens.

The Habs managed 33 shots on Flyers goalie Antero Niittymaki, compared to the Flyers’ 37 on Price.

Kovalev, with his 27th of the season, and Philadelphia’s Mike Richards exchanged first-period goals, Kovalev’s coming first at 6:18 on a pretty, seeing-eye pass from behind the net off the stick of linemate Tomas Plekanec.

Richards’s goal, scored shorthanded, snapped Price’s goalless streak at 112:26, a span stretching back to the first period of Wednesday’s game in Florida against the Panthers.

Defenceman Francis Bouillon, in what was probably his best game in a Canadiens uniform, then put the Habs back on top with 1.2 seconds to play in the first on an end-to-end rush (that’s not a typo), finally whipping a shot past Niittymaki for his first of the season.

Bouillon’s goal followed the confusion of a vicious check laid on Sergei Kostitsyn in the corner to the left of Price, the ensuing jousting match involving Montreal’s Josh Gorges and the Flyers’ Jim Vandermeer, and it came one day short of the first anniversary of Bouillon’s most recent goal.

But Bouillon’s goal didn’t break the Flyers’ back, as a goal late in a period often does. On their first rush of the second, Philadelphia’s Braydon Coburn shot toward the Montreal goal, the puck deflecting off defenceman Mike Komisarek’s stick and floating like a knuckleball over Price’s shoulder at 34 seconds.

Michael Ryder responded, however, emerging from the press box tonight to put Montreal back in front at 2:15 with his ninth, cashing a rebound after a bit of scrambly action around Niittymaki.

Saku Koivu made it 4-2 at 10:10 on a 5-on-3 Montreal advantage, taking a pass from Andrei Markov to beat a sprawling Niittymaki along the ice for his 11th. Kovalev also assisted, his third point of the night, having also assisted on Ryder’s goal.

Maxim Lapierre iced the victory into an empty Philadelphia net at 18:36, his fourth of the season, before Riley Cote scored at 19:41 to round out the scoring.

The Canadiens improved their season record to 32-19-9 while Philadelphia fell to 30-24-5.

The Habs return home for three Bell Centre games this week – they face the New York Rangers on Tuesday, the Pittsburgh Penguins on Thursday and the Columbus Blue Jackets on Saturday, when Bob Gainey’s No. 23 will be retired in a pre-game ceremony.


  1. LizardKing1967 says:

    And I suppose you have a better idea. What better player is out there, that we can A) sign to a deal, B) get a bonafide scoring winger, and C) not give up too much.


  2. mjames says:


    We have one super star and no supporting cast because we traded them to get Vinny.


  3. LizardKing1967 says:

    Glad I am not also. Wouldn’t want such a pressure job. OOps, forgot to mention…I wouldn’t make that trade unless I can sign Hossa to a 4-5 year deal as part of it.


  4. mjames says:

    Glad you are not our GM


  5. HKisses says:

    Yup!!! That’s a better post lol

  6. LizardKing1967 says:

    I think I might have to agree with you, but what would we get for him? How about this….

    Higgins, Streit, Yemelin, 1st rounder for Hossa


  7. Mike says:

    TRADE STREIT!!!! the guy can’t d. He doesnt have the hands of a forward. Has a good shot on the point, but so what. He gets so nervous when the opposition pressures him he coughs up the puck. For some reason sport “experts” love him. SO TRADE HIM!!! HIS VALUE WILL NEVERBE HIGHER AND WE HAVE NO POINT FOR HIM.

  8. LizardKing1967 says:

    I guess we shouldn’t be saying much anyway. Our beloved Habs are 2 points back of first place in the CONFERENCE, after all.


  9. LizardKing1967 says:

    I’ve always liked Cube. And, yes he is playing alot better now than previously, but someone has to sit, and the way Gorges has improuved over the last month or two, you can’t leave him out. He has matured enormously. I think we got the HUGE end of the Rivet trade. Also, if MK is Komisaurus, than O’B is O’Ceratosaur.You have to like the FUTURE big “3” Komi, Markov, and O’B.
    O’B has not played that many games, but for such a young guy, he makes some errors, but he is a BIG force.


  10. HKisses says:

    Cube out? no way ur crazy….he’s 5’6 playing like Komi’s size…..he has grit and always works…..i say Streit forward and Cube on defence where he belongs

  11. The Teacher says:

    Because we MUST win now and try every thing to do it NOW NOW NOW lol.

  12. 24 Cups says:

    Smart Doggie – why not just wait a year and get him for free?

    The Original 24 Cups

  13. planet habs says:

    halak should be the backup next year, but habs management didn’t treat him well, so wouldn’t be surprised if Halak wants out. I mean should have gotten a few starts. But if he leaves, we have Danis as a backup. Either way Huet’s days here, are numbered. he’s just not worth the money and besides, he won’t settle for being a back up. Can you see a backup getting 3 mil/season? ridiculous. better spend that money on a goal scorer or 2.

  14. Smart Dog says:

    I wasn’t so hot on the Cube last year, but this year the more I watch, the more I like him.

    I think this is a GREAT D. One of the best in the league. Yeah, that fourth line is like a left-over dinner. And I’m even less thrilled about reuniting the three lost amigos. But maybe Koivu and Ryder can BOTH hit the net tonight… just getting their shots on would be a step up.

    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  15. LizardKing1967 says:



    Does this 4th line REALLY look like we have depth??? Come on GC and BG. Get real. Put Smo and Kosto where thye belong. As for the “weapon” Streit is, put him with Gorges. Sorry Cube, odd-man out.


  16. Smart Dog says:

    I wouldn’t let go any of the players in my sig. unless it was for a marquee player who is likely to be in contention for the scoring title. Vinny is that kind of player.

    Tampa would need a Vinny replacement so start with Koivu or Plekanec. I would hate to lose Plekanec, but that’s likely. To round out the trade I would think might be something like:
    – One of: Plekanek or Koivu
    – One of: Higgins, O’Byrne, Gorges, top D prospect
    – Halak or Huet
    – 2 high draft picks (two first rounders or a first and second)

    This is a trade I would be tempted to do if I was Bob. Plekanec is a very, very special player and may reach elite level but Vinny IS elite level and with the youth Montreal has, for me, sending 2 good players, a goalie (which we have too many of) and 2 picks is worth it. It’s the MAX I would go. I would not give away either Kostitsyn AND Plekanec for example because all three are potential future stars. On my “untouchable list” are also Komiserik or Hamrlik. The only reason I would give up Pleks (and I wouldn’t want to) is I think we’d have to give up one that we definitely don’t want to and he’s our first-line center so they probably would demand him.

    But I would do something like that and I think it’s in the ballpark of what Vinny would command.


    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  17. N.B.habs fan says:

    Thanks for the info ED,man you guys like trivia hockey,thanks again.

  18. 24 Cups says:

    The Rangers beat San Jose 3-1 this afternoon which isn’t good news for the Habs. I thought San Jose might have taken this cross conference game. Oh well, a win for our boys will really make Philly’s life miserable now. By the way, If Smolinski is out for today then who is going to be our 4th centre?

    The Original 24 Cups

  19. LizardKing1967 says:

    Look, yes, I said I like Streit’s versatility, but a team is made up of 12 forwards (sometimes 11), and 6 D-men(sometimes 7). You got alot of if’s there. “IF” we lose a d-man to injury. “IF” we lose another to a major or game misconduct. Teams are not built on IF’s. I could say what “IF” we lost one forward to injury, and another to a misconduct. Then we only have 8 “natural” forwards left to play. Don’t think a D-man will take a misconduct, if they are already down to 5. I am not knocking Dandy, and I know he started as a forward way back when. But he’s been a D-man for ages. If there is no room at D, let him go. Put another young body, or trade for another “natural” forward.

    Also, it shows we have lots of depth at D, but we are un-deep up front like this.


  20. HKisses says:

    Damn i wish Vinny came here….i saw him at Subways two summers ago….and saw him driving his yellow Ferrari 360 beside me …aand lives pretty close to me too…would be mental if he came here….but then again who the heck are we gonna give for him?

  21. Jonnyboy says:

    Also thanks, it is really nice.

  22. Jonnyboy says:

    It is also $170 for the year or $15 a game.

  23. JF says:

    Haven’t heard anything, but Gorges’ flu must have been a very slight case, otherwise the team would have told him to stay away for fear of passing it around. He only missed one practice. My guess is he’ll be fine tonight.

  24. Blitzen says: is supposed to carry it online.

  25. JF says:

    If Price continues to play well and gets more starts than Huet, it would affect Huet’s trade value and might play into our hands in terms of re-signing him. No team will offer him a long-term multi-million dollar contract unless they’re convinced that he’s good enough and consistent enough to be a true starting goaltender. He hasn’t really shown that with us, but he’s great in short stretches. He’s what we need going into next season but he might not inspire complete confidence in other teams. In that case signing with us for another couple of years might turn out to be the best deal out there for him.

  26. Bean says:

    Who would you let go for Lecavalier?

    Personally, I think we’d have to give up too much (a big chunk of that bright-looking future you’re praising in your sig would go), but I’m curious what your thoughts are.

  27. habitual says:

    Al Strachan made a reference to this last night on Hockey after Hours. Where did you read this?

  28. habitual says:

    I have to disagree. Rather than being un-deep, it gives the team flexibility others would love to have. Consider, for example, a game if we lose a D to injury and have another get a major or misconduct. We’re not down to 4 D.

    Dandeneault was actually a good scoring forward when he was drafted. When he is in the line up he gives the checking line a little more offensive possibility than Nonstopolis and Begin bring (albeit that I love what Begin brings).

    Streit is a little too light as a D, and doesn’t get to use his speed and playmaking as well (save when he is on the point on the PP).

  29. Smart Dog says:

    Looks like a good line-up for tonight!

    Hey – did anyone else see that item on Vinny seriously wanting out of Tampa soon? What a shocker. Makes sense though. Now THERE’s a guy worth 7-8 mil a year. And I agree he’d look great in a Habs jersey… and contrary to what some might say I think we have the depth to trade for him. Uh-oh now let the barrage of big-time wishers begin!!!

    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  30. Smart Dog says:

    And don’t forget the birth announcements! LOL*

    Seriously – I agree. Thanks guys. Even more – thanks for listening to suggestions on how to make this work better… and for the articles and podcasts. I LOVE the podcasts – you can listen and do other things at the same time!

    (*Teasing you S-man of course… there is no bigger day in a man’s life than the birth of his child.)

    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  31. Maffu says:

    Smolinski out nice
    Kosto out alright to let Ryder play a bit since we have to trade him keep him seeing ice time
    Breezer out nice

  32. Ed says:

    I just got back from walking the dogs, and am now enjoying a cold one,as if it’s not cold enough outside. I like your hehe. Tee! Please forgive me, but I could not resist. “Hehe” just reminds me of somebody we used to know.

  33. habitual says:

    Shame on me for overlooking Pat Hickey too!

  34. Maffu says:

    You make a great point. Streit has shown he can score and set up superb plays, given, but Dandenault is only been given a somewhat regular spot as a forward because we’re waiting to get rid of him and hope he shows enough of what Streit really has to up his value.

  35. Hoegarden says:

    From CKAC – for tonight’s game;

    Smolinski – OUT
    Kosto – OUT
    Breezer – OUT

    Begin – IN
    Ryder – IN

  36. LizardKing1967 says:

    Think it was the Cube and Begin


  37. LizardKing1967 says:

    I have a question which I do not know if anyone has mentioned before, but it’s been bugging me all season. Why in the world are Streit and Dandy playing forward. What other intelligent team in the whole darn league has, not one, but TWO defencemen playing as forwards. Say all you want about Streit’s versatility, but how UN-deep is our team talent when we have two d-men up front. I would still rather see Begin and Tom the Bomb playing up there than two d-man.
    I do not have anything against Dandy and Streit, but come on, this is the NHL, not a saturday night pick-up game with the boys.


  38. Bill says:

    Best sports team-related site online, by far.

  39. Hoegarden says:

    Hi Suleiman,

    the only place I know of is below. You unfortunately have to sign up and I have not gone past this step.

  40. Hoegarden says:

    A long bow to a fine team of professionals. A great site to keep the Habs spirits up and exchange thoughts on the best darn sports franchise ever.

  41. Sulemaan says:

    Really good point about learning from the other posters as well JF. Glad you mentioned that.

  42. showey47 says:

    Possibly, but you can’t deny the numbers he has put up in the ways of g.a.a and save percentage. They still are decent numbers considering he has been inconsistent(very comparable to lundqvist who signed a 6 million per season contract). Huet obviously should not get this kind of money though. The only number in question is the number of games he plays in a season.

  43. OldGrover says:

    Damn straight – excellent site that has brought in an excellent community of people – great job to the Gazette (and to all of us :) )

  44. Higgins21 says:

    Very good post and congrats HIO staff.

  45. The Teacher says:

    😉 I tried my best to avoid the word hehe

  46. JF says:

    Completely agree. I love this site, look every day for new stuff, spend a lot of time reading stories and comments and following links. I’d like to thank not only the staff, but also my fellow posters, many of whose comments are very informative and thought-provoking, and some of whose analyses (krob and ebk) leave my head spinning. I’ve learned a lot, and my passion for the Habs has grown deeper.

  47. Sulemaan says:

    Agree 100%.

  48. N.B.habs fan says:

    Good for you to post this.I agree with this site it has helped me alot,I learened to type better,spell better,learned more about the team and picked up on alot of good post and new friends.

    Thanks HIO staff,evan at age 56 I have yet alot to learn ,and thanks to the fans for the help to learn more about the team.

  49. Ed says:

    It is about the TEAM, but don’t forget how much we used to talk about the SYSTEM. I think that Price has been the system for the last 2 games. His play has been instrumental in getting 2 wins, when the team in front of him scored only 3 goals. However, be careful what you say, or you might be blamed for the JINX. Look at your hyphenated word, and realize what it means. It would be nice though if Price could duplicate that feat of last night.

  50. Sulemaan says:

    Does anyone know if the game tonight is on any channel besides RDS or Centre-Ice? Online perhaps?

  51. Shobud says:

    I think come training camp he will still be looking No one wants a guy that can’t hold up a team.. Its ok to have a bad game but not a whole bunch..Win two and lose three.. I bet you put him on waivers and no one will pick him up

  52. Shobud says:

    Thanks from me too.. I think its great to be able to post your thoughts even if we don’t all agree It make it fun to see all the diff. ideas.. THANKS GUYS

  53. The Teacher says:

    I think Carbo is hoping the Habs pitch another goal-less game for Philly.

    It’s about the TEAM.

  54. Ed says:

    You are right again. TSN shows how all players were acquired, and these 2 are interesting.
    Begin – 1996 was drafted 40th overall by Calgary. On July 3/03 – they traded him & Chris Drury to Buffalo, for Steve Reinprecht & Rhett Warrener. Then Montreal claimed Begin on waivers on Oct. 3/03.

    Bouillon – signed as a free agent by Montreal on June 28, 1998. On Oct 4/02, he was claimed by Nashville on waivers from Montreal, and then on Oct 25/02, Montreal claimed him back on waivers from Nashville.

  55. Blitzen says:

    Seconderered, this is great!!

    The only add-on I would like to see would be a forum where posters could start topics.

  56. Blitzen says:

    I was thinking the same thing. I wonder if Carbo isn’t silently hoping that the Habs win but that Price at least gives him a reason to start Huet in the next game. If Price shuts them down completely again tonight, what does he do for the next game? And if he keeps starting Price, is he getting a goaltending controversy? I’d rather he stick with the hot hand but I could see that this might ruffle some feathers…

    I’m thinking Carbo is hoping for something like 4-2 Habs with one softish goal allowed by Price.

  57. habitual says:

    Slightly off topic, but will you join me in thanking all those who make HIO possible?

    This is such a great feature from our friends at the Gazette. Think of all the things we get, free:

    Kevin’s one on one interviews.
    Dave’s great historical pieces.
    Podcasts with our boys.
    Mike’s game updates.
    Hot rookie Chris’s fresh perspectives.

    I’ve spent all Sunday morning reading posts, checking out leads to other stories, and just plain revelling in the pleasure of such a rich site for Habs devotees. What could be better?

    Thanks HIO staff. This site is extremely well done.

  58. HKisses says:

    Honestly any goalie can go into a slump,but tonights game isa real test. If he does well tonight,his confidence IMO will be very high…Which could lead Price to stealing the number 1 spot for the rest of the season….Don’t be surprised if this does happen,sending him down and bringing him back up is paying off…

  59. showey47 says:

    begin and i think bouillon, not sure though

  60. N.B.habs fan says:

    How the clubs were built:

    Phili Montreal
    drafted 5 13

    Free angency 10 5

    trades 11 3

    wavers 0 2

    Can some one tell me who we picked up on wavers ?

  61. mrstewart61 says:

    Few of us doubted Price, just are calling for patience. Still, it’s only been two games, granted he played really well. He could easily go into a slump. He certainly has come back with more of the attitude, confidence and positioning we saw at the WJC. We are fortunate to have both goalies!

  62. skoehn says:

    with how huet gets treated in montreal why would he want to stay…

  63. Ed says:

    Sorry, but I can’t resist. You said a huge contract. It’s almost like a huet contract. I agree though, and I for one think there is a good chance he will be gone after this season, especially if he wants the huge contract. Price will carry the load, and I am sure they can find a backup.

  64. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Watch a Bulldogs game allready with Halac in nets,awsome!!!! Halak is the peace of the goal-tending puzzle needed and Huet is the trade bait,that’s life ,dude.Allso ,hope we get a young spark plug like that Downey kid,he’s allso the real deal.

  65. showey47 says:

    It also wouldn’t be a stretch to think that he may be one of the most coveted goalies on the market this summer, but if there is a bigger name please let me know. He is gonna want a 3 or 4 year deal. Every one forgets that he is gonna be 33 and has only been in the league 5 years (including this one) with the first 3 years making entry level backup goalie wages. Its not like he’s been in the league since he was 22 and has made nhl money for 10 years. This is gonna be his only chance at a big contract and it won’t be a 1 or 2 year deal with a hometown discount.

  66. Ed says:

    For anyone who is bored while waiting for the big game, here is a site which gives all kind of information on the 2 teams. It shows rankings against division, and conference; records after a victory or loss; records with zero days off; average height and weight (Habs are heavier); Canadian, American, and European players: U.S. college graduates (they have 1 more than us); who’s hot and who’s not, etc. Price’s save percentage over the last 2 games is only .986. That is very close to perfection.

  67. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Can’t hold on to Huet one more season as he becomes a free agent this year and will look for a long/huge contract.

  68. Mike says:

    HOLD ON A SECOND. Wait 1 more year before you trade huet. secondly, i would keep begin as some1 to play every second game. He brings a dynamic to the game like no one else.

  69. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Pricless performance won that game for us,bring in Halak and let the trading begin. Good -bye and thank -you : Ryder,Huet ,Dandy,Smoke and Begin,enjoy your new surroundings!And for those fans who doubted Price,ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ….

  70. Ed says:

    When looking at the Team Leaders above, it’s like the Kovalev and Richards show, as they lead their teams in most offensive categories, and +/-. Price has been confirmed as playing tonight, and that should be a given after his showing in the last 2 games.

    I was wondering if anyone has heard any confirmation on Kovalev and Gorges. Kovalev does have a sore ankle, and all that skating last night could have aggravated it, but I hope not. As for Gorges, how bad is his flu? Could last night’s game have a detrimental effect on it, to the extent that he might be doubtful for tonight’s game. The flu does tire one out, and this will be 2 games in 24 hours.

  71. Shobud says:

    I believe we can bring some guys up after thr deadline I hope Chips is one of them.. It would be good to get a look at a couple of the others too

  72. wd40 says:

    well i’m glad i was wrong (never take stock tips from me) … looking forward to seeing Price again in nets. i am so pumped for this game. today we capitalize on those missed chances.

  73. PGHABS says:

    that picture is awful

  74. LizardKing1967 says:

    Why does he have to be a “rental”?? Gainey did speak to his agent last week. And, yes, I don’t like to give up draft picks, but if we keep it up, we won’t have a good one this year. Also, you gotta give something up for something. Hope u r not one of those guys who thinks we can give Ryder straight up for Hossa.


  75. JF says:

    I think Hossa would demand nearer $8M to play in Montreal, given the taxes and everything; he turned down $7M from Atlanta. There’s no way Gainey would pay him that much, even if it didn’t mean trading away some of our young core players and prospects. If Gainey can deal Ryder and maybe Dandenault for someone who can play a tough physical game and win faceoffs and who won’t cost us any pieces of our future, he’ll do it. Otherwise he’ll stand pat.

  76. Sulemaan says:

    You can’t sit a guy after a shutout. It’s the right call and Price deserves to play. Carbo always goes with the hot goalie. I hope Price plays well again although it might make things tough for Huet to return. With the trade deadline around the corner that certainly makes things interesting.

    With regards to Hossa and all the potential trade options, ask yourself this question. If you were Don Waddell (GM of Atlanta Thrashers) what would you ask for in return from the Montreal Canadiens for Hossa? My answer would be: Christopher Higgins, Ryan O’Byrne, Kyle Chipchura and a 1st Round Pick.

    Now ask yourself, if you are Bob Gainey who building a championship team through the draft – would you make that kind of trade for a player who is about to be 30 years old and will be demanding at least $7M per year in salary? (Remember the taxation issue in Quebec…)

    If you are going to make a deal that is going to cost you, you address the major deficiencies in your team: namely a big centreman and/or power forward who is tough and can drop the gloves.

  77. Shiloh says:

    You’re right on with regard to Hossa. We can’t be giving away our future for him. Atlanta has to consider that they may lose him for nothing so maybe the price wouldn’t be as high as Higgins, O’Byrne, Chips and a #1. After the last couple of games I really don’t want to lose O’Byrne. He is playing sort of like Komisarek just before he busted out. I want that big defence back there for years to come.

  78. showey47 says:

    I would rather plug the holes on our bottom 2 lines and maybe find a good second line winger who is big and can score. I would not part with any of the core youth for hossa. We are third in the league in goals for and 20th against, scoring is not our problem. Offence wins games but defence wins championships

  79. skoehn says:


  80. kostystsinbrothersarethefuture says:

    I think tonight’s game was awesome for some guys, specially for bouillon. The guy was hiting like a monster!. I also love to see Price playing like that, the guy’s an eminence on the nets. I’d like to say that we should trade Koivu and Ryder and get a power forward like Marleau. and Carbo should bring back chipchurra and give S.Kostytsin more time on the ice.

  81. Wayne says:

    Especially because of the way this club retires it’s legends that makes these nights very special. They are kings among kings thereafter. Gotta love it. Great post Bean.

  82. ebk says:

    nice post as always, Sulemaan

    I think Gainey will look at a trade but not if it disturbs his core of young talent as you noted. I’d rather see Chipchura and Grabovski back up, maybe Valentenko and live or die with the Kids.

    I’d look long and hard at upgrading the defensive forward types. They all have been rather inconsistent this year. It would come cheaper than Hossa etc. Guy Carbonneau as a player would help this team tremendously. Anyone out there like that?

  83. HKisses says:

    WOWWWW…IS it me or is Bouillion playing so well right now …….5v5 and huge on PK

  84. Vid says:

    I have to admit Habs are getting the breaks when it comes to penalties not being called (Lats high sticks someone near the boards centre ice and Markov crosscheck on the penalty kill in front of price).

    Just as I say that O’byrne then Streit get penalties towards the end of the 2nd period.

    Pretty exciting game to watch, lots of hitting and intensity.

  85. usversusthem says:

    Alright, this is good, this is good. We just need to stay out of the penalty box, play smart hockey, and maybe get another goal somehow. There’s no reason why we should lose this game or even let the Flyers get a point.

    Also… dunno if you guys have noticed but Kovy now has 59 points in 60 games… if he gets another one tonight he’ll be the first point-per-game Habs player in God knows how long… at this stage of the season at least. Anyone know when the last one was?

  86. planet habs says:

    It’a miracle! Koivu and Ryder scored. don’t expect that to happen again, but as often as an eclipse of the moon. Is there a lunar eclipse tonight?

  87. postie jim says:

    How much does refereing pay in philly. We are getting the short end of the stick in this one. BS by the ton.

  88. usversusthem says:

    Man when are people going to stop making stupid Price puns? Seriously that guy is never going to hear the end of it about his last name.

  89. Fab K says:

    just to think, if we win tonight we are tied in the standings with Ottawa!!!

    when’s the next time we face them? We’re knocking on 1st place door!!!

  90. Wayne says:

    No,.. it’s Boullion 😉

  91. HKisses says:

    my first star ill name him now…..BOUILLON

  92. The Teacher says:

    Feb 20th I believe.

  93. downeast hab says:

    seems like Carbo has to eat —-. Ryder playing half the minutes than other players, an has a goal and the most shots. Oh, if only he was wanted on this team.Best of luck next year on a team that wants him.

  94. planet habs says:

    Price-the ice man! tied for top spot with the sens.
    price is definitely RIGHT! Cristobal who? hope he likes being backup, because he’s not getting in goal as long as Price is in Montreal.

  95. KeepRyder says:

    I hope everyone saw how P.O’d Ryder was at the end of the game when Cote scored. Know why, Gui blew his check and the scored. ryder was so P.O’d. Reading lips, he mentioned to Gui to backchec, and not in a nice way. He was probably thinking…..”Great! Wonderboy blows his check, and I’ll get the crap for it.”

    So happy tonight, though. Habs win, Ryder scores, and in 6 days I get to see, in person, my first Habs game ever, and on Bob Gainey Nite to boot!

    Can a grown man cry….I will I am pretty positive I will! Don’t hold it against me!


    It can only get better!! Go Ryder, Go Habs!

  96. Fer_hab says:

    carbs should ride price for the next game and trade huet because we all know that huet can play more than 40 games than choke. i say we don’t need hossa he would cost us a lot of future. i would suggest trade graboviski and a 3rd round draft pick for jeff carter. let me know what u think

  97. linp says:

    They reflects on the +/-, LOL.

  98. Jonnyboy says:

    Next door to “Maple Leaf keys to sucess school” est. 1968.

  99. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    a few observations from this GREAT tilt:

    BEGIN – he is BACK, hitting, fighting and pressing the opposition to make errors..MUST STAY IN LINEUP.

    RYDER – with a vengence, TOUGHNESS? he defined it tonight, what a WEAPON we had boxed up!, CARB at FAULT here…let the kid play, he is TOUGH AS NAILS and can put it away when the opportunity comes. But what really deserves mention is his CARBONISM type defensive coverage, crushing hits, taken and delivered…MUST STAY IN LINEUP

    STREIT – brings life to the lower lines, brings life to the powerplay..a defensman playing forward, THATS CARBS DREAM PLAYER!

    BOULION – most don’t notice, but the way Cube played tonight is how HE ALWAYS PLAYS…keep it up, you are a top 4 defenseman…anywhere.

    KOVALEV and Crew…best line in the NHL, what we’ve all known for awhile, now the rest of the NHL/Media will wakeup…

    Koivu and Crew…I see the confidence coming back, just need SK to sync with Higgs.

    PRICE – SOLID…but Huet MUST return this week.

    SMOKEN da BREEZE…don’t sharpen your skates, in fact put them in storage…i think old man Dandy will join you soon,…STAY WHERE YOU ARE UNTIL CALLED.

    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP

  100. Chuck says:

    I had more than a tear in my eye at Dryden’s jersey retirement night. Don’t sweat it!


    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  101. Chuck says:

    Grabovski had another 4 points tonight for Hamilton. He might be a keeper!


    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  102. Sulemaan says:

    You might be right Chuck, but I’d make that trade of Grabovski and 3rd R. pick for Carter.

  103. Sulemaan says:

    Yup, got a big frog in my throat when I got to see #19 raised to the rafters.

  104. The Teacher says:

    # 23 will be special. Many of the younger fans will remember him more than they did Dryden, Moore et al.

    I expect a huge ovation

  105. KeepRyder says:

    Well, if not for that lovely piece of defence by Latendresse, Ryder was a plus player. As it ws, he was even. koivu, Higgins, S.Kostitsyn, Gui and Dandy were minus players.

    It can only get better!! Go Ryder, Go Habs!

  106. Chuck says:

    I tend to agree with you, Sulemaan. Carter’s definitely got the goods. He’s too good for that team!


    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  107. nightmare_49 says:

    I know you’ll enjoy that night, me son.

  108. Bean says:

    I’m pretty sure I’ve gotten misty at every retirement ceremony I’ve watched. And that’s from the comfort of my own couch — I can’t imagine the emotion of being there in person. Especially for Bob, and you know there’ll be mention of his wife and daughter.

    I don’t think anyone’ll begrudge you your tears!

  109. TradeRyder says:

    As the Teach reminds me ( and I knew he would) Ryder scored his 9th goal tonight. What I had said was something like “Ryder won’t score 10 goals in a Habs uniform this year”. So we’ll see if he’s still here to score another soon. Have to admit he played a good game… though at the same time the thing that bothers my about Ryder is that he isn’t as hungry for the puck as some other guys. There was a play tonight on the right side of the net, the Hab player went into the boards to get it and fished it out but Ryder was too slow coming across from just to the left. Not the end of the world but a Plekanec or Kostitsyn would have put himself in the passing lane and not stayed where the net was blocking the pass. Splitting hairs… or “it’s all in the details”? You pick. Just don’t slag me – I’m tired. Ryder played pretty well okay? As some say – maybe he just needs a change of scenery to a place where he’s given some fresh air. God only knows why that whole line has gone soft this last couple of months.

    Let the kids play… let the non-performers watch or walk.

  110. KeepRyder says:

    Thanks Guys,

    I grew up a Habs fan among Leaf fans in my family. I have seen, and remember, six cups, while many of my family members are still trying to photoshop Sundin’s head on George Armstrong’s body with the cup. I have the CH throughout the house and especially in my boy’s rooms. never to early to influence!

    Heck, even my laptop is a Habs fan. It is adorned with the Official Canadiens skin from Dell!

    Better get to bed……its Sunday here, now there’s only five days…..!

    It can only get better!! Go Ryder, Go Habs!

  111. Ed says:

    You are tired. It is actually Monday here.

  112. Shiloh says:

    What I liked about tonight was the contribution of different players – not just the usual suspects. Bouillon was great – played like a guy twice his size and on the road in Philly that’s saying a lot. Ryder was around the puck and working every shift. He’s too talented to sit. I could suggest who might sit instead but will leave that comment for another time. Begin must have given the team a boost when he not only downed a guy with a great body check but also wrestled the Flyers captain to the ice – in Philly!

    Plekanec is the real deal – what a pass to Kovalev. AK46 can fly out there, and shoot and hit – he’s a first line player for years.

    Huet – don’t know his future but I’m glad he’s with us now. Did anyone else notice him snarling at the Philly fans as they shouted stuff at the team on the way to the dressing room after the second period? That tells me he’s still one of the guys – standing up for his teammates and not sulking.

    And our man Kovalev – I love it when he’s on the ice.

  113. ClaytonM says:

    I’ve heard there’s no pleasing some people, but saying Huet MUST return this week? That’s just silly. Price has played the best hockey this year, far outshining Huet’s accomplishments all year, and you want to bench him.

    I can understand taking a stance, but not sticking with it when everything indicates you’ve been wrong. It’s time for the Huet supporters to admit Price is the better goalie PERIOD.

  114. jimbo82 says:

    i couldn’t be any happeir right now but i do think they need someone to fill in on the koivu and higging line, does not need to be hossa but just someone who can really get the line going. Really sucks Ryder is having the year he is having cause if that line was clicking we would be even better off.

  115. linp says:

    I like the french connection: Lapierre, Latendresse and Dandenault. They played well the last two games.

  116. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    I never said anything about who is better…but what is better for the team is for both Goalies to be in GAME SHAPE going down the stretch and into the playoffs…that is a powerful asset for us to have.

    not to run with one goalie for the next 20games whatever…we don’t have that problem.

    so the problem for Carb now is to find a spot to insert Huet…we have LA, PhX coming so there will be plenty of bounce back games.

    If Rangers are next then go with PRICE…but Huet should not go cold.

    when you are in the playoffs then you STICK WITH ONE GOALIE!!

    and WHO WILL THAT GOALIE BE????????????????

    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP

  117. linp says:

    Ryder is getting his one-timer back. Now we just have to set him up. Putting him in the PP is a good start. I also like to see Sergei Kostitsyn playing the point in the PP. Strait is quite ineffective recently. Sergei passes the puck well.

  118. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    agreed, they generated many chances with hardwork down low…just need Dandy to play on edge to be effective, and thats a hard thing for a veteran to do down the stretch…but come playoffs INSERT DANDY FULLTIME.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP

  119. ClaytonM says:

    Price will make the playoff start if he keeps playing like that. Huet hasn’t had a horrible start lately besides the Ottawa game, but Price is a goalie that needs more action. Huet is a typical back-up in that he can play well after sitting for several games. Besides, Carbo will ride Price until he loses. I thought he’d play Huet tonight, and I’m glad I was wrong.

    BTW, I apologize for the comment. I must have mixed you up with the vipah, who seems to be absent today. Anyone heard from vipah this weekend?

  120. Chuck says:

    He was around earlier.


    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  121. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Kovalev is turning this club around and into a top contender.And the scary thing is he’s just getting better and better,the possibilities are endless at this point!

  122. Vid says:

    A few things to note about this game. The officiating was not really fair to Philly. I already mentioned two previous examples and Hartnell’s goalie interference penalty looked to me that Komi did push him into Price. With that said, I still think that Habs would’ve won regardless as they played quite well. Although Philly was on a losing streak they did not play particularly poorly against us though they have quite a few injuries, of note to Gagne and Lupul.

    Mtl isn’t the only team who has a D playing forward. Philly also has D Lasse Kukkonen play forward on occasion.

    The next two games against Rangers & Pens will be very important. I believe we’ve lost our last two games against the Rangers. They seem to have our number this season like Jersey & Florida have previously (thankfully we’ve at least beaten both of them at least once this season).

    Even though we tend to not have too many problems vs the Pens they are only two pts behind us with a red hot Malkin.

    Despite both the Sens & Wings’ recent losing streaks Habs are still not on their level. I think to be even close to approaching their level we will have to consistently beat teams like Rangers and Jersey who have a pattern of giving us trouble. Elite status will then only follow when the Habs can beat Ottawa and Detroit calibre teams and prove that they can beat any given team on any given night.

    If Koivu Higgins Ryder were playing even half as well as they did last season then we wouldn’t be as pressed for another good, big offensive forward. I think the Habs can get away with not obtaining such a forward if Koivu Higgins & Ryder step up. I feel that Koivu and Ryder did step up during this game. Ryder’s goal was definitely a turning pt. that swung the momentum our way and Koivu’s PP goal solidified our lead. I do feel Koivu’s puck possession skills aren’t as good as last season, he seems to lose the puck more quickly or maybe he’s holding on to it just as long as before but has no good options to make good passes.

    On other hand even without a legitimate 2nd scoring line, I think offence is not a major problem with the Habs but occasionally team defence against elite teams like Ottawa can be. I don’t know what can help us in this department. Trade for a shutdown player with size and faceoff prowess? Another solid defensive D? Adjustment to the team’s defensive system? More practice time spent on faceoffs? Is anybody doing video reviewing of the team? If Kovy can look at old videos of his play and improve, why not others?

    I am quite impressed with Sergei Kostitsyn. Even though he doesn’t have many points, he does a really good job on the point during the PP. Makes good passes and can adjust to receive less than ideal passes and makes some good shots on net.

  123. Sulemaan says:

    So here’s the view from the peanut gallery. My five cents:

    (1) It’s great to see Steve Begin back. Not just in the lineup but hitting everything that moves. Unless he plays with an edge he’s useless. I also agree with other posters that this was the best game by Mr. Bouillon in a long time. Both of these guys may be small but when they play as they are capable of they have a lot of heart.

    (2) Let’s not sweat the small stuff about goaltending. Price played well tonight so let’s be happy about it. Carbonneau has done a pretty good job so far this year going with the right goaltender. If he plays Huet the next game great. I used to worry about trading Huet so we didn’t lose him as a UFA – not anymore. Why? How many teams can say they have two capable goaltenders like us? Unless someone offers Gainey the moon for Huet, keep him. Besides, if Huet walks for nothing in the off-season we still have Halak and the money from Huet’s salary can go towards another UFA. We did sign a UFA by the name of Hamrlik last summer…

    (3) It’s great to think about potential trades and getting players like Ovechkin, LeCavalier and Hossa on our team. But look at all of those teams and what is the common denominator? They are all not doing very well.

    I’m not blaming those players but in an era of salary cap, you have to pay top players top drawer. So at a minimum, each of those players would cost between $8M-$10M per season (if not more). If the salary cap is $50M. Does it make sense to put 20% of your salary into one player? That means that the remaining 80% goes into 23 or so other players. You can’t have much of a strong supporting cast as the team can’t even pay them fair market value. I think the league is now at a point where top players will have to decide if they want to take a little less salary to play on a championship team or be on some also-ran and not even make the playoffs.

    (4) When you look at the team this year as noted by another poster, what is the difference. Okay, Kovalev is playing like a man possessed, Ryder/Koivu/Higgins aren’t, Komisarek/Markov have emerged as a brilliant defence pairing. But the real changes are the youth that we have injected into the lineup: Price, O’Byrne, Gorges, S.Kostitsyn, A.Kostitsyn, Latendresse, Lapierre and Chipchura, Grabovski (amongst others) waiting in the wings. If the youth is what is turning this team around why part with it. So we can make an extra round in the playoffs? Why rush things? Why not continue to play strong and build our team from within and then become a power-house year after year like Detroit? Or like Montreal used to be when they cultivated talent from within back in the 50s,60s,70s and 80s.

    I remember the team in 1984/85 when players like Skrudland, Kurvers, Roy, Lemieux, Momesso, Chelios, Corson, Richer were waiting in the wings. The team could have traded them but held on and won 2 Cups in 7 years and competed regularly the other years. Call me foolish but I see us on the cusp of the same thing. I’m not saying don’t trade prospects (Kovalev for Balej and 2nd round pick was a great deal) but be judicious about it. Which I believe Gainey is. As Sam Pollock once said, “Listen to the fans and then do what you were going to do in the first place.”

    (5) We all know last year the team had a meltdown after teasing us. I’m still hesitant but I’m starting to think this team is for real. I also think I have it all wrong about Patrice Brisebois. Yes, the team is 16-4-4 – or something like that – without him in the lineup. But I’m starting to think he’s a good luck charm actually. So long as he stays in the press box! 😉

    [My apologies for the long post.]

  124. skoehn says:

    that is just not even close to being true…. price has not outshined huet

  125. wild flower says:

    I notice along with his improved play, Koivu is providing more post game comments.

  126. Sulemaan says:

    How come Dean?

  127. Sulemaan says:

    Thanks Earl. I can’t think of anyone young but perhaps Mike Peca if we are looking for a good defensive centreman for a playoff run.

    He won a couple of Selke trophies and might be able to teach the kids a thing or two. I’d take him over Smolinski and he’d might cost less too.

  128. The Teacher says:


    BRAVO. Bravo. That’s what I want. Detroit-like Dominance. Habs of yore contending.

    Bravo Sulemaan :)

    P.S. I think Vinny is going to take less to come here. It’s just a feeling I have. The stars are aligning. The only problem is….he wears #4…What is his new number going to be?

  129. wild flower says:

    Instead of Marleau, why not Craig Rivet. They have the same number of pts and while Marleau is -21, Rivet is +1.

  130. Wayne says:

    … hey, i wanna ride a gator too!

  131. Sulemaan says:

    I meant the season thus far but I should have clarified that my friend.

    You are absolutely right that he did indeed play very well tonight. In fact, I would say he did well despite not getting a lot of ice-time from Carbo.

    I hope he gets more and continues to play like he did tonight. We need him. Apologies for that miscommunication.

  132. Sulemaan says:

    Well if Vinny did come Teach, I’d say #44, provided that he takes Roman out to Queue du Cheval for 44 pre-game meals. :-)

  133. T-roy West says:

    I agree with most of your post Sulemaan except I would trade Huet. My reasons are that I don’t think he will be here next year. Montreal doesn’t negotiate contracts during the season so he won’t get a contract extention before the deadline and he will get a lot of offers for big bucks that Gainey won’t match. No sense having a 3-4 million dollar backup. So if your saying that a youth movement is the way to go then mybe we should trade Huet for prospects or draft picks to keep the flow of youth going. Don’t forget to include Halak also with the guys you mentioned because he also is part of the youth movement. Price is for real and Halak did really well last year so lets not let Huet walk for nothing!

  134. Sulemaan says:

    I can’t say I disagree with you T-roy but my fear is that if Price has another slump like he did earlier this season (not that I wish it), it doesn’t give us much breathing room if we deal Huet.

    But you do raise a good point about going with our youth which includes Halak. I just don’t know if any teams out there are looking for a rental goalie. And if they are what would we get from them? If it’s anything above a 2nd R. pick or a half-decent prospect, I’d just as well hold on to Huet.

  135. Sulemaan says:

    All good bro. Who knows? Maybe if the team holds on to Ryder he might just turn it on now. I believe Kovalev played poorly when we first acquired him from New York Rangers and then he tore it up in the playoffs. :-)

  136. Shiloh says:

    I agree. If the offer is basically nothing we might as well hang on to him. An extra playoff round would reward Mr. Gilette very well – much more than saving about a quarter of Huet’s salary. Also, I don’t think we have to pay Price that much for the next few years because of the rookie caps. I’m fine with Price and Halak, but I also don’t mind having Huet as insurance. He seems like a good team guy and Price seems comfortable with him as the other goalie. What to do with Huet isn’t an easy question.

  137. T-roy West says:

    I understand what your saying but what if we could get someone worth our while or a high draft pick? I would be more afraid of Huet going into a slump rather than Price. Name one thing Huet does better than Price. You will find it hard. Besides, Halak did great while Huet was out last year. He is also nhl ready.

  138. Spartan117 says:

    well said

    comments on the game: Bouillon was a prophet, Price our saviour and Kovalev is our god.

    praise the Almighty Canadiens


  139. Sulemaan says:

    thanks spartan. i like that comment on the game.

  140. The Teacher says:

    The problem is, we won’t get much for Huet. Nashville is probably the only team in the West who could possibly have an interest in him, and who would they give up? Trading him to an East team is out as well, since there is no urgency to move him. Might as well keep the strength in numbers as the status quo for now.

  141. Sulemaan says:

    Nah, I figured you were going to eventually respond with the necessary dose of sarcasm and cynicism Timo. What the hell took you so long? Getting slow… 😉

  142. habsgod says:

    great post suleman!!you are 100% correct keep up the good posts!

  143. NLhabsfan says:


  144. mrstewart61 says:

    All his observations are stupid. He just rips everybody; he’s a hypocrite.

  145. Blitzen says:

    The refs stunk it up for both teams last night. Happy?

  146. Blitzen says:

    The Habs are virtually tied with the Sens for 1st in the East and Carbo doesn’t know the rules? I guess you’re one of those who subscribe to the fantasy that the team is winning despite him. Last year and early this year, I was a Carbo basher, but I’m thinking he’s way better than I thought then.

    Do you think that Maybe if Stevens showed any kind of emotion, the refs would talk to him too? His team is on a 7-game skid and he looks like he’s locked up a playoff spot. Or like he simply doesn’t care. I guess once the gooning strategy fails, his toolbox is empty.

  147. HKisses says:

    Man who cares if Carbo talks to the refs alot….He is competetive…simple… Wat a stupid observation! Has nothign to do with the win and the postion we are in now…..

  148. usversusthem says:

    You sure pay a lot of attention to the Habs for someone who seems to hate them so. That’s pretty strange behaviour, I gotta say. For instance, I find most TV programs to be boring and trashy schlock, so I save myself the trouble and don’t watch them. You should try that approach, maybe. I bet Carbo’s attitude towards the refs wouldn’t bother you at all if you didn’t watch Habs games. Think about it.

  149. wd40 says:

    actually i feel really sorry for him. first, he’s a leafs fan. second, if when I retire, my “fun” comes from cage-rattling on the maple leafs blog, god, just shoot me now.

  150. mrstewart61 says:

    Sundin got away with a cross-check to Komi’s throat!

  151. mjames says:

    Begin’s hit was no that clean. Begin left his feet. It was also bordering on charging. I know if Philly had done that to us we would have been upset. Let’s be objective when viewing things.


  152. Blitzen says:

    Lecavalier got away with a hit to Kovy’s chin. What was your point again?

    Bégin hit the guy from the front side, shoulder to shoulder. The Ref who called the penalty was the one who was behind Bégin and couldn’t see the hit properly. I’m thinking he thought Bégin went for the head. And anyway, how did Smith not get an instigator penalty on that play? The refs just stunk up the joint for both teams tonight.

    Anyways, with all the talk about how the Habs need an enforcer, I’m glad we have guys like Bouillon and Bégin willing to take the body despite not being Parros-like in size.

  153. Blitzen says:

    Let me repeat: NHL refs suck from game to game. They’re like a box of chocolates that way. Flyers got away with a hit from behind near the boards on AKoz last night.

  154. Shobud says:

    Sorry You better watch it a couple more times.. He came off his feet after the hit which is very normal Ever see a car hit something .. the ass end always comes off the ground.. Its the same with hocky..You hit someone stright on and you are going to lift..

  155. Shobud says:

    Better watch it again

  156. HKisses says:

    Left his feet after the hit….

  157. nightmare_49 says:

    What was the difference between Begin’s hit and the hit on K1 just before the cube’s goal , that guy left his feet. No penalty.

  158. HKisses says:

    Gilette must be very happy….Because i know i sure am….

  159. Ian G Cobb says:

    In other words we are so quick, the other team has to take penalties, then they are dead meat. We win again.!

  160. Shobud says:

    You know I have been hard on Huet if you read my posts.. I don’t just condem a player.. I try to figure out what he does wrong, so I have watched Heut all year.. I think what happens with him is he loses concentration.. He plays so good sometimes it can’t be luck.. The guy is good but he is not in focus all the time I think he should take a course on positive thinking.. I think he lets his guard down and you can’t do that..As for the rest of the team, don’t change anything.. The ones in a slump will come out and maybe just at the right time

  161. HKisses says:

    NOOOOO IAN…..according to FACTS-FOR-IDIOTS….We have to score off skates liek sundin….whats a powerplay?

  162. Shobud says:

    How many peop;e were upset because B.G. did not sign Briere.. Its so nice to want all these STAR players but are they going to work out..Thats why I don’t want Hossa.. Why are you so sure he would be so good here..No thanks.. Go with the kids and you might find someone better in your own backyard

  163. Richard B says:

    Ryder didn’t score 4 goals??!!
    put him back in the corporate box, quick.

  164. HABZ 24 says:

    habz are tied for 1st in the east. no need for trades.hossas a playoff BUMM always was.rumors of havlat too, hes injury prone, dont need anyone.go habz go!!

  165. T-roy West says:

    Everyone new that Briere was the last person that we needed but Gainey tried to sign him to an outragious contract. Same goes for Souray. The majority of people knew deep down that he was a reliability but Gainey offered him the same money that Hamrlik got. What if these players had of excepted Gainey’s offers? Not good! Those moves would have hurt this team I believe. It’s all right to question Gainey because sometimes he makes not so good decisions!

  166. habsguy says:


  167. Hoegarden says:

    Ryder must have had a bowl of whatever Bouillon had the other night. It had been a long time since I’d seen him come out of the corner with the puck with two Flyers still chasing him.

    The key to the Habs success has to go to Carbo for the simple reason that he has this team totally united, “all for one, one for all”. Last night, Koivu was the first player to rush over and give Price the win-hug; Beautiful I say.

    Our D gets a +A for this w/end. On both nights,Philly had a 5 on 3 and could not buy a goal. Yes, Price had a lot to do with it but the D also did it’s job splendidly. Gorges is making it clear that he belongs too. And what about Kovy and Pleks playing the PK ? Who would have thought ?

    Philly mentality; as dumb as ever with the likes of Holmgrem and especially Clarke in the shadows. They, via Stevens, tell their players how tough they are but in reality they are not so tough after all. Cote is the only one in my book who can dish it out. Even Stevens had to admit that their stupidity showed on Bouillon’s goal.

    Smolinski; my prayers finally answered. Looks like Begin wants it more than he. Good luck getting back in the lineup.

    Dandy; Are we paying attention ?

  168. yehaken says:

    Now, if we can just stop losing to the Rangers…

  169. yehaken says:

    I totally agree. Sidenote: Dave, it might be time to add spellchecking to the forum posting page.

  170. Shobud says:

    I think everyone is guilty of that No ones perfect tho I am very very close

  171. N.B.habs fan says:

    not to stir things up,but don,t you think if we had Briere that he might do better with such a great club.You cant blame BG for really dont know that so lay off BG…..

  172. 24 Cups says:

    I’m willing to pay a monthly fee for that feature!! And please, don’t tell me to download Foxtail, or Fireball, or Firefox or whatever the hell it’s called. Computer life is hard enough as it is for guys like me.

    The Original 24 Cups

  173. ZepFan2 says:


    Hey, we can’t be sitting Smokes for long, he has a no trade clause. 😮

    Can you say, scapegoat?!

  174. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Havalat is one of the most talanted N.H.L.’S GOING!

  175. Ed says:

    lol! You and me both.

  176. TradeRyder says:

    Like magic. Take Breezer and Slackinski out of the line-up and we start to win again! No surprise with Kovy and Pleks on the PK. From where I sit, they are the two most intelligent and skilled players on the team.

    Let the kids play… let the non-performers watch or walk.

  177. 24 Cups says:

    True, but he makes $6 mil a year and rarely plays 60 games a year because he is so injury prone. Just too brittle.

    The Original 24 Cups

  178. habsgod says:


  179. Shobud says:

    I am not blaming B.G. I am just pointing out that everyone wants to sign a big name.. Forget the trade bulls***.. We have a superstar on the team and a couple more in the making and they fit with the other guys we got..The last thing we need is Hossa or somebody like that.. If we get one watch us go right out the door

  180. Shobud says:

    I don’t look for mistakes I don’t care as long as I can understand whats been said

  181. Shobud says:

    I though he was in the smoking room now

  182. skoehn says:


  183. Shobud says:

    There is no one any harder on Huet than me.. But to knock him for what he has done no way.. He has played some great games but he lets down in games he is needed..I think he is a team guy all the way..

  184. Gooner says:

    The problem most people have are that they don’t believe in the team concept. You win as a team and you lose as a team. This is where team chemisrty comes from. People always tend to want to blame one or two palyers for losing and only give credit to one or two players for winning.

  185. Blitzen says:

    CapsLock click!

  186. Ian G Cobb says:

    Shobud–Huet is the better goaler right now, but slowly Price is getting there, Price definitely handles the puck with his stick better than Huet, and is going to be much better than Huet soon. Just like our young guns on D and up front need more seasoning before we can unload there mentors. I said before the season started that it would be 2 more years before we would compete in the finals, I still believe that is true. But what a great ride that we are on. On any given night we can beat any team in this league now. We are still going to loose games along the way, but as we groom our young players, we will loose fewer and fewer.

    I can’t wait for the next one.!!

  187. Ed says:

    Shobud, I took it that 24 Cups was referring to my use of the term Amen. I used it to agree with you saying to go with the kids, and forget about Hossa. Then 24 Cups said he was willing to pay a monthly fee for that feature. I assumed he meant Amen (Heaven). I could be totally out in left field, but that’s how I took it. Then 24 Cups said computers are hard enough for guys like him, and I agreed and said they are hard enough for me too. I hope this clarifies it as I see it. Good luck.

  188. TradeRyder says:

    Your enthusiasm is contagious Ian!

    You’re right – it’s an exciting team to watch… and a fun process too.

    Let the kids play… let the non-performers watch or walk.

  189. T-roy West says:

    Sorry Ian but I’ve got to disagree. Huet is not the better goalie right now and that is quite obvious I would think. I think if people were honest, they would be hard pressed to find things that Huet is better at than Price.

  190. Ian G Cobb says:

    We will not go after anyone, we don’t need anyone. We have the horse’s in the barn now to compete for the cup next year, and we should make some noise in the playoffs this year. This franchise, with both clubs in Hamilton and in Mtl. are in the best shape for a long and prosperes run into the future since Sam Polack days. Thanks a million Bob Gainey.! I am loving the ride.!

  191. TradeRyder says:

    Except for his stats, save percentage, little things like that.

    Let the kids play… let the non-performers watch or walk.

  192. Bill H says:

    Yeah, sure thing. Everyone knew Brier and Souray would be a bust this year. Everyone but Gainey. He’s a fool.

    Fact is that he didn’t sign the 2 players because he thought they were overpriced. Souray was considered key to our PP unit, which was the single most important part of the team game last year. Brier was the high scoring forward that would solve Montreal’s 5-on-5 problems. That was the conventional wisdom. Gainey was right in prioritizing the signing of Markov, who he has locked in long term. When Souray was asking too much, he let him walk and signed Hamrlik who has been a solid addition to the club. He tried to sign a high scoring UFA, but wisely didn’t get caught up in bidding wars and let the other GMs over pay.

    I expect you were part of the lynch mob that gathered outside the Bell Centre when BG let Souray go and Brier sign with Phillie, screaming because Gainey was incompetent for not signing them. That’s one of the weaknesses of this site. People like you can change their tune and rewrite history because there is no way to go back and check what you said 8 months ago. Its easy for people like you to pretend that you are smarter than Gainey. But everyone knows you are full of s**t.

  193. mrstewart61 says:

    Shobud & Bill H: Bob DID try to sign Briere, Breire rejected the offer.

  194. HKisses says:

    If Ryder keeps the goals comming…..Then we won’t have to make ne moves…

  195. Ian G Cobb says:

    True, Price has played very well since being recalled and he is going to get very much more consistent and confident in his game. But don’t forget this is one of the toughest posisions to perfect in hockey. He is very mature in his game for a 20 year old, but he has a very long way to go yet . In as much as the speed, tecneak, and mental composure in the NHL takes time to acquire.

    He is going to be a star in this league, but there are going to be bumps in the road that he will have to deal with, without loosing his confidence. Slow and sure is the best way to season a young star.

  196. Bill H says:

    You know what I find to be one of the most puzzling things about the people on this site?

    Take a look at A. Kostitsyn. He’s brilliant. He’s our future. He is a blossoming superstar.

    Now, let’s look at C. Higgins. He’s a bum. He’s in a slump. He’s lost his scoring touch. Trade him for a bag of pucks.

    Now let’s look at the stats of each.

    Okay, Kostitsyn is a year younger, and he got benched for a few games early in the season, so he’s played fewer games. But he’s also played with Kovy and Pleks. Don’t tell me that doesn’t account for a few points.

    What would the point total be if Kostitsyn had played most of the season with Ryder and Koivu, while Higgins played with Kovy and Pleks?

    So why is Kostitsyn a hero and Higgins a goat on this web page? Don’t get me wrong. I am delighted and excited with Kostitsyn. But why are people so hard on Higgins?

  197. ebk says:

    don’t know, Higgins is a good hockey player. might be that people set unrealistic expectations and then get mad at the player when he doesn’t measure up to what they thought. Just a guess.

    The main reason I like Kostitsyn better than Higgins is because I think his offensive potential is much higher. He reminds me at times of Marion Hossa. Strong on the puck, can beat defenders one on one, passes the puck very well and has a bullet for a shot.

    Higgins is a little different in that I don’t think he passes the puck as well and he seems to get tunnel vision when he has the puck. All this being said Higgins should be a 30-30 man for years to come.

    Kostitsyn, I think has a higher ceiling than that but I could be guilty of setting unrealistic expectaions myself.

  198. Bill H says:

    If you read my post, you will see that nowhere did I say BG didn’t try to sign Briere. BG was seriously looking at several UFA that would address Monteal’s needs. The key to that is that he tried. Briere was coming off a career year with 32G 63A 95Pts +17. And additionally, he plays an exciting game and is a home grown Quebecer. But BG did not sign Briere because he was asking too much and he didn’t want to come to Montreal. What would have been foolish would be if BG didn’t try to sign him. Its only the clairvoyant posters on this site that claim they knew Briere would crash and burn after signing for big bucks.

  199. HKisses says:

    IMO People expect every player that is expected to score…to atleast score every game….but that is just not gonna always happen… If people watched DETROITS latest games….They have lost their last 6 games… and their top forwards (Datsyuk ,Zetterberg) are not producing right now… So everyone has a slump, its part of the game…. If people put Higgy as a goat then they don’t know what they are talking about…Every player is part of the sucess the Habs are having now….Higgins is a very skilled player, and so is A.Kostitsyn …. the Game where Latendresse scored 2 goals… We woudln’t have those 2 points if he didn’t score those two goals which ended up being the winning goals…… So what im trying to say is every player we have sitting in the pressbox and on the ice are all part of the sucesss, So no need to hate …If you don’t liek the way the player is playing , don’t go aroudn asking for a trade…… Instead support them, otherwise your not a true Habs Fan

  200. Chuck says:

    …or banished to the minors. 😉


    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  201. Ian G Cobb says:

    Some people have a hard time to get this picture about Ryder, he was never a kid that was suppose to score 30 goals every year, but he was the best that we had for a couple of years to play on the power play, and he got a bunch. Same as Souray got a bunch as he was all we had at the time to do the job, and he also was not that good of a two way hockey player. But Ryder is a two way player, he foreckecks, and backchecks, he works the boards well and he positions himself well on the ice and takes care of his defenceive responsibilities. Goals for us are not a problem, we are third in the league, it is the goals against that have to be addressed if we are to move forward. We are in the 20th place in a 30 team league, not nearly good enough and this is a total team stat. Ryder will be a member of this Stanly Cup finals team next year. But just not in the roll that he has been in for the past couple of years.

  202. Shiloh says:

    Wow – great comparison. I am a huge Kostitsyn fan and I like Higgins as well. Maybe we all expected Higgins to make the jump to the next level in terms of goal scoring. It could be that Higgins will end up being a solid 25-30 goal man who plays with a grinding physical presence – someone who will be very valuable. As far as Kostitsyn goes, the sky’s the limit. He has an amazing upside. But your numbers make an excellent point.

  203. TradeRyder says:

    Great point Bill. And nicely illustrated! Diagrams and everything!
    And good point about who his linemates are… that’s quite different. But Kost is on his way up and a truly dynamic force to watch. Higgins seems less of the player he was for some unknown reason. Two snake-bitten linemates maybe? Still, your point stands. Higgins is a veyr good ockey player and we’re lucky to have him. And he’ll probably bust out of the slump and with numbers like that we’ll forget it ever happened

    Let the kids play… let the non-performers watch or walk.

  204. 24 Cups says:

    Ian – That’s the whole problem with Ryder – he has tanked, and Carbo has gone sour on him, in his UFA year of his contract. In a 30 team league someone is going to sign him long term, especially in light of his young age. Would you, and other posters, be willing to give this guy a 3 year contract at $3 mil a year to come back and be a Hab? Can we take that gamble? Not in my books. We can get a guy for $750000 to do what Ryder has done (or hasn’t done) for $3 mil this year.

    I’m not here to run the guy into the ground – it’s just good business sense not to bring him back.

    The Original 24 Cups

  205. Ian G Cobb says:

    Ryder In And We Win.!!

  206. HKisses says:

    Exactly…For the kind of money Ryder is getting right now….He should be producing more ,thats why he is making that much in the first place…. He had shown he was capable of scoring,but now that isn’t so much the case and he is playing with the same linemates…So we can’t exactly survive on one line….we need the first two lines to produce ATLEAST….Kovi line is amazing, But Koivu’s line has to produce more….If Koivu’s line can produce and play the same way we are now, We will be unstoppable…..

  207. HKisses says:

    JUST IN…….Forsberg won’t return to NHL this year….AS PER TSN

  208. Shobud says:

    Sorry Ian We are going after it this year.. Maybe we won’t get it, but we are going after it.. LOL .. I agree we don’t need anyone.. they would only draw us down.. Don’t disturb a good thing and we have a good thing

  209. Shobud says:

    How about Kovy last year Everyone wanted him gone.. Still want to get rid of him..Ryder might break out just when we need him most.. I would love to see it

  210. 24 Cups says:

    Shobud – There is still that chance for this year – we really don’t have anyone else that can score as a 3rd right winger after Ryder. I guess it’s kind of like Huet, only Gainey knows what is being offered in a trade and whether it’s worth it to keep or move a UFA player at the deadline.

    The Original 24 Cups

  211. 24 Cups says:

    Ed – Point of information – Your 13:48 post is exactly how I saw things. My comments had nothing to do with hockey (or related posts) and everything to do with spellchecking and computers.

    The Original 24 Cups

  212. wd40 says:

    lol. :)

    i think it would be much harder to implement on the back-end. i know you hate the idea, but Firefox does come with a built in spell-checker (unlike internet explorer) that works really well. any typo-s or spelling mistakes you make are automatically underlined in red.

  213. Ian G Cobb says:

    Again let me tell you. It matters not who gets the goals, we get plenty of them to win every game. But team defense is what wins championships every year. Just like in football, all the hero’s are catching or scoring touchdowns. Only the most astute know how important the D and O linemen are.

    You can have the big O in Washington, Crosby & Malkin in Pittsburg, but they will never win a cup without a supporting cast that can keep the puck possession game on the far side of the red line and out of your own end.

    They have spread there cap to thin on the offensive side of the game.

    Even Ottawa, as good as they are offensively, will never get there. They just don’t have enough defensive minded players. Come playoff time I hope we get em. We will roll 4 lines and they will again wonder ,how come.


  214. HKisses says:

    Wat about Briere? Higgins has just as many goals as him…I think he has more then yapping down pat…. Its liek saying Talusty likes to show off his naked body to camera’s offf ice …but can’t show off to camera’s on the ice…. He clearly has the naked part down pat….Ur name should be Facts-For-Idiots

  215. wd40 says:

    “He loves yapping!” … you got to be kidding me. LOL. does anyone else see the absolute supreme irony in this comment? oh man, that’s a good one F-F-S. one of your best!

  216. Habs_008 says:

    I dont think Higgins is a goat, i think he is a great young player, they both are. He is in a slump, but seemed to get out of it with a couple of goals last week. I wont be surprised if Gainey does nothing on trade deadline day. I hope we keep Higgins.

  217. HKisses says:

    OMG…ur so….ERR….Its half way through the season wake up…IF NHL teams don’t realize what player to be watching out for then they are gettign facts from you……SUNDIN SCORES HALF OF HIS GOALS OFF OF SKATES……your point?

  218. Shobud says:

    And those goals should not count I understand now

  219. Ian G Cobb says:

    Your right, we are going after it this year for sure, I just was meaning that in sept. I was predicting that they would be bonified contenders for the cup in two years. No one has been more pleased with the progress this year than me, as I expected. We have a lot of kids that need a little more seasoning, if they pull it off this year, no one will be more excited than I.

  220. Habs_008 says:

    Price Named Thrid star for the week.

  221. Ian G Cobb says:

    We are in third place in a 30 team league with our goals for dept.

    Rose colored facts.!

  222. Scotty90 says:

    I think F-F-S should be on ‘Juste Pour Rire’. Way to go ‘V.I.’, keep your clueless posts coming!

  223. showey47 says:

    F-F-S seems angry, i guess he didn’t like my poem.

  224. The Teacher says:


    I agree with you. Team defence. We have a lot of offence at present.

    I think our #1 priority next year has to be to get a #3-4 defenceman. Do you agree?

  225. Scotty90 says:

    must have forgotten his meds today

  226. showey47 says:

    RE:The rest of the league is JUST starting to pay attention to Kovalev.

    The guy has been in the league for 14 years, if nobody has caught on to him by now well i guess they won’t start any time soon. Once again i prove you to be clueless.

  227. Scotty90 says:

    Higgins is just that kind of guy. He could be wearing the “C” some day because of his out-going personality and leadership qualities. Now as far as boasting… I think it is our turn to ask you to remove your glasses… your shit colored glasses that is, that grossly distorts everything yu see. Time for you to make peace with yourself and forget the Chelios trade to Chicago. Hopefully you will come to appreciate the Habs for the true champions that they are.

  228. Ian G Cobb says:

    Teach– I think we got em now, a lot of people don’t know this but we are so strong in D in our organization, it is unbelievable. Now there young and most people don’t know there names yet, but we have la crem de la crem learking just out of view. These kids will take there place with us and stay here for years to come.

  229. Shiloh says:

    Hey Fact-Boy: Please – stay on your Ritalin. You have to be one of the worst judges of hockey I have ever been exposed to. You are delusional and moronic, but I have to always try to imagine how sad it is for Loaf fans like you who will never experience the joy we do here in Habs Nation. I am not asking for a response, but somehow I think one might be coming.

  230. 46_14_27 says:

    Go Habs Go.

    Next stop top of the conference “alone”. Home ice advantage through the playoffs. When was the last time we saw that from the greatest hockey franchise of all time? Well they aren’t there yet but if they can play the rest of their games the way they pulled off Sat/Sun, they will have no trouble staying on top. I still say a big center is the missing puzzle piece. Some of those guys that sit every other night would be good trade bait to someone. Pull the trigger Bob. Get us to the promised land this year.

    Go Habs Go.

  231. 46_14_27 says:

    Both of these guys are 20 goal scoreres or better…no matter who they play with. Not everyone can be Mike Gartner and score 30+ goals for their entire career. Kos and Higs are going to be fine and I’m going to enjoy watching them bang and score for a long time. Leave Higgins alone.

    Go Habs Go.

  232. G-Man says:

    You know, those measurements look good! :)
    Totally agree that a big center who can pass and score is necessary to put this team over the hump. Who among the sellers has this player (and is willing to part with him) with the Habs not mortgaging the future?


  233. G-Man says:

    Higgins has become an easy target because of our great expectations. All the fans here on the site want Higgins to be the 40 goal man we all think he should be. We’re just impatient waiting for it to happen.
    The A on his jersey lets you know what Carbo and Gainey think of him.


  234. G-Man says:

    Baaa! Baaa! Don’t you recognize bleating when you hear it? Sheesh!


  235. wd40 says:

    was Shane Doan the guy behind that “french ref” controversy? he might have been on the radar, who knows, but i don’t think they can touch him now.

  236. Chuck says:

    Must be a slow day in Dorval…


    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  237. G-Man says:

    The past 2 seasons have been 1 season contracts with Ryder. His agent has him seeing huge $$ signs instead of focusing on doing what he does best. That’s driving to the net and shooting the bleeping puck. I still think he can score if he works at it by doing the ff: Stays in practice longer. Shows an interest in improving his game. Talks to Carbo about it.

    I would offer him less money for 2 years and see if he regards it as a challenge or walks, claiming no respect.


  238. Shobud says:

    I will be right there with you LOL

  239. Shobud says:

    Yes I agree with you.. Kovy has put a few on their ass this year.. I guess they will keep their heads up now

  240. Shobud says:

    Please Bob Don’t do a thing Don’t try to repair what ain’t broke.. Bring someone in now and watch us go down in a hurry

  241. Shobud says:

    You bring a player in now and the chemistry will be gone.. The young guys will think, I guess I am not good enough or am I going to be replaced.. It ok to want these ( STARS ) but we don’t need them.. What is this horses*** about a big center..Will he be faster that a small center..Give me the small guy with heart..As for the big players I noticed that big tough philly team took a pounding last night

  242. The Teacher says:

    I know we are strong, but do you really think we have a #3-4 in the next two years? I’m not sure about that, it would be asking the young’uns for a lot.

  243. Jonnyboy says:

    Besides the first line, what chemsity is on this team. The 2nd line should be our first, but due to a lack of chemisty is not. PLEASE take away the 2nd line’s chemisty, and replace it with something new.

  244. Ian G Cobb says:

    I like the way you think SHOBUD

  245. Ian G Cobb says:

    One 20th of the game is putting the puck in the net. The rest of the time is spent trying to keep the puck away from our net. Which is a much more important responsibility that has to be carried out if we are to be successful. All our lines are being extremely successful doing there job. We certainly do not want any body from outside the franchise coming in here to screw up what we have built. TEAM CHEMISTRY.!! Other franchises would kill for what Gainey has developed here in three short years.

  246. jack waisberg says:

    With regard to your comment that we need another defenceman as a priority
    is not in this fans eyes.At this point i will say that i would stack our present 6 starters against any other team and having Streit and Dandenault
    gives os options and depth not seen here in years.
    Oh yes i didn’t mention Brisebois as i feel he should be offered to any team that woyuld give hyim a chance to play.Agree or disagree this is MY

  247. Hoegarden says:

    All this trade talk with the GM’s in Naples.
    Just look at the Sens since the trade with the Canes. It’s only 3 games you might say but three losses none the less.
    And Murry has made it clear on TSN that he is still shopping for a D-man and one big time scorer to complement his second line.
    Needless to say the word around the dressing room in Ottawa these days is “ok, who’s next”.

    Apparently, Gainey has been quoted this afternoon saying that he would only be interested in a “A-Player”, meaning no Randy Mckay or whatever.

    Let’s not expect much.

    In Bob’s shoes, I would let Huet go for a first and second rounder.

  248. T-roy West says:

    Don’t mean to harp Ian but I asked the question,” What does Huet do that is better than Price”. I can name quite a bit in favor of Price. What about Huet? Also you mentioned about our defence prospects that are coming up that people might not know about. I find it hard to believe that a true hab fan wouldn’t know the talent that we have in the system. They would have to be living under a rock. I also believe we wouldn’t have to sacrifice the future to get a bonafide player for the Koivu line. We have the depth. That’s the whole point to stockpiling so many prospects. They “all” can’t play for us! We trade some for the one piece that we weren’t able to draft, simple.

  249. planet habs says:

    The problem with Higgins is: he has no idea what to do with the puck? have you seen him on a breakaway on Sunday? didn’t do anything, no shot no deke, no nothing. He just doesn’t have the skill of a Pleks, or Kostistyn .
    He’s a 3rd or 4th line winger, known better for his defensive skills.
    If he is the stumbling block for getting a top winger or center, DO IT BOB!
    players like Higgins are a dime a dozen. we should know; just take a look at our 3rd and 4th line players. each are a carbon copy of each other.
    If we don’t get a top scorer, we’re out 4 straight 1st round, that is, if we get into the playoffs. People, the eggs are hatched yet. coming into the most difficult time of the season, starting March 1st, and if we can’t beat Buffalo, NJ, Ottawa or Toronto, not making the playoffs, and wouldn’t deserve to.
    So chance to see just where we stack up to those teams. Wait before buying playoff tickets!

  250. Shobud says:

    Yes. We don’t have any We got to first place by luck

  251. Shobud says:

    Sorry A fast button

  252. Shobud says:

    Yes And wait before getting your STAR.. we will be in the playoffs and might even go all the way

  253. TradeRyder says:

    Yeah but….

    You have to look at the player he was at the end of last year when he was scoring goals short-handed on break-aways, and the player he was for awhile this year, and wonder where THAT Chris Higgins has gone. I think that’s the real CH… he’s got the tools but lost his rythm. No wonder playing with different line-mates all the time. Even good players don’t always respond well to change. Higgins role has changed with all these fast, skilled players…. but I believe the talent is there. He needs to regain his game.

    Let the kids play… let the non-performers watch or walk.

  254. habsguy says:

    you really think you could get a first AND SECOND rounder for Huet…Buddy come on …

  255. 46_14_27 says:

    Maybe only 2 available. Sundin and Marleau. Obviously Marleau would be cheaper with the year he’s having. Maybe a few games in Montreal would snap him out of his funk. Either way, he’s big,he’s mobile, he’s smart, and not bad in the faceoff circle. An added bonus for the faithfull in PQ……..he’s french.

    Pull the trigger Bob.

  256. jack waisberg says:

    Gilbert I have but one word for your comment re Higgens.

  257. habs12345 says:

    hossa coming to montreal will only do nothing good the better decision is to remain status quo and make a few minor upgrades and in the offseason that is were you go after a guy like hossa and you dont loose guyzz like obyrne higgins chipchura at the same time

  258. mrstewart61 says:

    and ask smolinski to waive his ntc.

  259. Hossa is Coming says:

    Why you dont like me? I’m like your superstar Alex Kovalev… I refuse to listen to your coach Guy Carbonnneau and play my own game, which means winning, Yes?


  260. The Teacher says:

    you sign for 5 million dollars? OK!

  261. habs12345 says:

    yes but why trade for you when we can attempt to get you for next to nothing except your inflated salary in the off season

  262. Hossa is Coming says:

    Becausue if you dont want me now, I’m gonna be hurt. I’m gonna pretend I’m still interested in your team, at the end of the season, and I’ll keep pretending I want to join (but I’m just pretending), and thats gonna increase my salary when I sign with Philedelphia. My buddy Dan, taught me that one.

  263. Mike says:

    We need more conssisnt goal scoring. maybe the higgins koivu sergei line can do it, maybe not. But we need 2 strong scoring lines.

    Waiting to see if there is a trade. if not, GET RYDER IN. or call someone up.

  264. Vecs says:

    Maybe if we keep Ryder in the press box we can re sign him for a three year deal really cheap after the season. That would be nice, if unlikely.

  265. HKisses says:

    TSN AND RDS …Reportign that PRICE gets the call tonight….This should be fun game to watch

  266. The Teacher says:

    So Price is in, Carbo does stick by his word then. We all want to see how he does and I’m sure Carbo does also.

    Here’s hoping for another win.

  267. Hossa is Coming says:

    Hello my friends. It is me Marian Hossa!

    I wish to join your Canadiens team!
    All I ask in return is to be fair to my former Altanta team. Please allow your superstars Patrice Brisebois, Michael Ryder and Bryan Smolinski to be traded for me.
    Is this Ok?


  268. The Teacher says:

    You will have to sign a contract paying you only 5 million a year. OK!

  269. habs12345 says:

    i pray hossa doesnt come to montreal in a trade

  270. Ed says:

    Yes, it is okay, and very funny. You must stop mocking fans who suggest this trade of those 3 superstars for you.

  271. habs12345 says:

    flyers will come out flying this game just like the caps did a few weeks ago habs better be ready tonight because 1 goal wont win the game again unless price shuts them out again which wont happen

  272. Bill says:

    Good call for me. You don’t sit a guy after a shut-out.

  273. Hossa is Coming says:

    Dont worry my hab fan, I will score the goals


  274. Habs_008 says:

    I hope you do come, and sign for a few years. If we have Hossa Saku Higgins, and then our reg #1 unit, we can be unstopable….

  275. Hossa is Coming says:

    Ok. Sounds good to me guys! Atlanta is too warm anyway.


  276. habs12345 says:

    there wouldnt be a higgins if they trade for hossa

  277. Hossa is Coming says:

    Yes, and I would like to do something different for your team when i join. Win some faceoffs!


  278. Shiloh says:

    I agree with Price getting the call. He’s hot and the Flyers have to be wondering if they can score on him. I’d like to see Ryder in for Dandenault.

  279. showey47 says:

    i agree, even though ryder has been struggling all season, he still brings more than dandy. Its also hard to get anything for ryder via trade or try to get his confidence back by scoring goals while sitting in the pressbox.

  280. wd40 says:

    yep. as much as I simply can’t understand what happened to the poor lad from my mother’s homeland, I think he’s getting a lousy ride. ryder. heh. i crack myself up sometimes. anyway, he’s still better than dandenault, no question. but the poor fella was stinking up the Koivu line.

    GP G A PTS +/- PIM
    Michael Ryder 49 8 10 18 -3 18
    Mathieu Dandenault 52 7 5 12 -11 32

  281. mrstewart61 says:

    Good point. We need SOLID (not like Smo) 3rd and 4th line players. IMO, our d-men are solid enuf, but maybe it’s the defensive capabilities of our forwards that is lacking. Chipchura should be back! Dallas is looking for 2nd line scoring. Maybe Ryder for a good, steady two-way forward. Also, as I have mentioned lately, Chris Gratton could be a good 3rd/4th line centre. Our 4 centres would be Pleks, Koivu, Gratton, Chipchura (move Lapierre to RW). Still, Hossa would look nice on Koivu’s wing, but I’m not willing to give away a lot of roster players for him. Maybe WE can sign him in the off-season??

  282. The Teacher says:

    Yes, I do.

    He could just as easily went with Huet, and I would have understood why as well.

  283. The Teacher says:

    Let’s worry about what happens tonight first LOL.

  284. Ed says:

    Yes, 10 healthy scratches and counting. Why would anyone sign a contract where they are not going to play. Plus the Habs are winning without him, so they need to get something, no matter what, in return before he signs with Boston.

  285. showey47 says:

    lmao, maybe pot one or two hotdogs buts thats about it.

  286. showey47 says:

    ryder needs to play a linemates who control the play and he just fly’s in under the radar with his stick on the ice. We all see he has a hard time skating and stick handling at the same time. If he ever gets paired with vinny or joe thornton type of player, he will regain his form.

  287. habs12345 says:

    i would be interested to see how much holik would cost from the thrashers
    he would be absolutly perfect with the habs

  288. mrstewart61 says:

    Very mature response. That’s what makes this site great. Most people are passionate about our Habs yet reasonable folk. Most… :)

  289. Shiloh says:


  290. RudeMood19 says:

    LOL guys did you see when Vandermeer dropped the gloves, Gorges pointed his stick in the direction of the Philly net. He was referring to the fact we had just scored.

    That was funny.

    What wasn’t funny, and was downright stupid is how Bégin got a penalty for that hit.

  291. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    at the end of the first…
    let me be the first to say….THE REAL BEGIN IS BACK!
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP

  292. planet habs says:

    why is Koivu Ryder and Higgins on the PP? when’s the last time that line has scored a PP goal? it’s ridiculous. the only line to score on the PP is the Kovalev line. Kovalev should stay on the ice for the entire 2 minutes, otherwise we won’t score. Hey our scoring not great lately. only 11 goals in last 6 games. that’s less than 2 goals/game. pick it up boys, and start finishing. If only Koivu could learn how to put the puck into an OPEN NET!

  293. N.B.habs fan says:

    Give them a break I thought they played good,ryder is trying hard wait till the end off the game then you can shout at that line ,but please give them some time to play,and hopefully the will prove us wrong .GO HABS GO..

  294. Sulemaan says:

    Nicely done Mr. Bouillon.

    (Thanks to Hoegarden, JonnyBoy, Blitzen for the details to watch the game online.)

  295. postie jim says:

    Hi Sulmaan– It is Ian posting on Posty Jim’s Computer. My hockey friend. I am so tecky now, i get to show someone how to work this site. You can give him an answer O.K. Tough game Ian

  296. Jonnyboy says:

    All worked out for you?

    Its auctually the first time I have ever watched one online. The quality wasn’t that bad. I moved my chair back a foot and was all set.

  297. The Teacher says:


  298. Ed says:

    planet habs – you said that the Koivu line could not score on the PP. I guess you might have to retract that. In case you did not notice, Koivu scored.

  299. Sulemaan says:

    Hi Postie Jim,

    Welcome to the Habs I/O site.


  300. Sulemaan says:

    Hi Postie Jim,

    Welcome to the Habs I/O site.


  301. The Teacher says:

    One for Ian and one for Postie Jim?

    We’ve been missing you Ian!

  302. Sulemaan says:

    Ummm….yeah….that’s it Teach! :-)

  303. Shiloh says:

    So how do you watch the game online?

  304. wild flower says:

    Maybe Marleau even up for Ryder – if the Sharks pick up most of his contract. I’m not sure either of these players can make next year’s Habs.

  305. habfan53 says:

    CBO says teams can no longer pick up portions of traded players contract.

  306. T-roy West says:

    Why is that people have been saying all season, how good Huet is but yet people also say that we can’t get anything for him at the trade deadline? I guess he can’t be that good if we can’t even get a good draft pick for him.

  307. Shiloh says:

    He is a good goalie but not an elite goalie like Price is likely to become. And, he’s unrestricted after this year so he’d only be a rental. so the question might be do we trade him for very little or keep him as insurance. I agree with you that his value to a team may well be as a solid backup. How low an offer would you take?

  308. T-roy West says:

    I think that he is gone after this year anyways. I would prefer to package him but I would take a first rounder or a really good prospect.

  309. Shiloh says:

    I’d take a first rounder too. Remember, he was a throw-in in the Bonk deal. He did alright for us though.

  310. Da Hema says:

    This was a solid road game by the Boys tonight–with the exception of that bum Cote putting in a late goal. Price looked calm and collected, and the team played a gritty game. I used to be concerned the Boys were potentially vulnerable to a physical game, but they played physical tonight. I am beginning to believe they can withstand intense playoff hockey. Sergei Kostitsyn is going to be a valuable forward when he grows and matures. I never would have thought I would thank Dale Hunter (!!!), but thank you for developing Sergei.

    I am having a difficult time understanding why Ryder keeps getting benched. He hits players, his skating appears stronger, and his shot will always keep the opposition on their toes. I scratch my head when Ryder sits and Smolinski and Dandenault play. I cannot even begin speculating why Carbo chooses to sit Ryder, but Ryder is certainly a positive presence when he does play. If these trade rumours are true about Ryder, I fear we may regret moving him. At least Ryder does not disappear as, say, Dandenault does after he plays more than one game in a row.

    At any rate, let us rejoice! Tied for first place in the Eastern conference. Well done Guy and Bob!
    “It’s not a lie if you believe it.”
    –George Costanza, “Seinfeld”

  311. nightmare_49 says:

    Nice post, De Hema.

  312. wd40 says:

    hmm… so the Flyers come away from the 2-game series with 2 concussions (Downey and Tolpelko) on 2 clean hits. In the end, we out-hit the flyers without being goons. The Flyers were head-hunting BIG TIME in the third period.

  313. G-Man says:

    Solid win against Briere the Invisible and the Goon Squad. Didn’t like the last goal allowed. No excuse for this late in the game let down stuff.

    I don’t like the way teams crash the Habs net. Someone has to pay big time so it no longer continues. Either that or another in the long line of rule changes is in order. When a goalie is making a save, all his balance and coordination is going into it. When you add a 200 pounder charging in to hit the goalie, well, that’s where injuries occur. The answer is simple: Price and Huet need to take a page out of the Billy Smith school of hockey. “You skate into my crease, I swing my stick at you full force.” Pushing other teams’ players away after they’ve run the goalie is too late. They have to be stopped before.


  314. G-Man says:

    Baaa! Baaa!


  315. Blitzen says:

    You must be a Leaf fan. How’s that Sundin trade going for ya?

  316. Habs93 says:

    Stevens, although not as animated as Carbo, was doing his own version by muuttering something after each Philly penalty.
    The problem is two fold. 1 – The majority of players have lost respect for each other. Body checking was intended to separate the puck from an opponent not separate his head from his shoulders. Where’s all the open ice hitting gone. Now the hitters need the assistance of the boards to KO an opponent.
    2 – Hockey has the poorest officiating in sport. It is not only inconsistent between officiating teams from game to game it is inconsistent within each game. A hook is determined by the placement of the stick and not whether the opponebt’s progress was impeded. But a concussion hit on a player who has released the puck and is 30 ft away is OK..
    Go figure..-

  317. HKisses says:

    UR an idiot….No one here is talkign about the cup….We are tired for first…If you don’t liek it go to the Leafs Inside out(which u don’t got,because we the best fans)……Carbo is the man for this team and he knows what he is doing along side his assistant coachs…. How about those Last place Leafs?Who you planning on picking as ur first rounder? And who you gonna trade him for? Don forget ur Trademark….NO TRADE CLAUSE

  318. Habs64 says:

    The Price is Right and all is well in Habsland on this Monday Morning.

  319. HKisses says:

    I hope Ryder stays in the lineup for next game…..

  320. Shobud says:

    I hope Carbo leaves him in and leaves him alone..He will come back to what he was or better

  321. habsguy says:

    I’ve got to step in here, I’m all for good clean hard hitting hockey, I don’t like all the head shots that I see happenening now.
    I didn’t see the game lastnight but I did see a replay of the Begin hit, I didn’t see Begin on the replay until he came into the picture on the TSN replay, it looked to me like he didn’t stride for at least 10 or 11 feet, he hit shoulder to shoulder, and his feet didn’t leave the ice until contact was made, result, clean hit.
    Would I like it if I were a Flyer, NO. And personally I don’t like to see guys trying to hurt the other guy.
    Scott Stevens played his little game for years and I thought he was one of the dirtiest ever !!!!

  322. Shobud says:

    I agree.. It was a clean hit..But you know when you try to make a name by been a dirty team like phil. then this is what happens..There is pride involved here too.. You have to show them you are not going to back down..Like the school bully..He is tough till you smack him hard in the face..Thats the end of trying to push you around

  323. showey47 says:

    A poem for you for-fact-sakes, to the theme of rock a bye baby

    by showey

    Rock a bye fact sakes
    in your laff top
    the bottom of the standings
    your maple laffs drop

    20 games left
    laffs are close to dead last
    fact-sakes and laff nation
    can kiss my white a$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

    Its no haiku but if this doesn’t make bench talk, it had no cred

  324. HKisses says:

    HAHAHAHAHA……Showey47 for MVP…. That was very entertaining…..maybe you can go on RDS and present that

  325. G-Man says:

    Not haiku, just hi-larious! 😀


  326. Shiloh says:

    Excellent – I was singing along.

  327. Scotty90 says:

    Speaking of ‘getting a life too little too late’….

    not much hope there for you buddy!

  328. Shobud says:

    What he says is true Lats needs his ass kicked for that last goal

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