Game 58: Sabres win after 10-round shootout

Canadiens goalie Carey Price blocks a shot by Sabres’ Nathan Gerbe on Tuesday night. Allen McInnis, The Gazette

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AUDIO: Brian Gionta | Brendon Nash | David Desharnais | James Wizniewski | Max Pacioretty | Jacques Martin

• At a Glance: The Canadiens blew a two-goal lead on the Buffalo Sabres on Tuesday night before finally losing 3-2 in a shootout. Jochen Hecht scored in the 10th round of the shootout after both team missed several chances and hit about a halz dozen posts. Max Pacioretty notched his 10th goal of the season 4:54 into the game with the Canadiens on the power play. He collected a Tomas Plekanec pass in front of Sabres rookie goaltender Jhonas Enroth and roofed it over the goaltender’s shoulder. The assist was Plekanec’s 300th career point. Benoit Pouliot made it 2-0 6:28 into the second period after he was on the receiving end of a nice pass from David Desharnais.The Sabres got one back before the period was over during a power play of their own. Drew Stafford scored his 24th of the season with 2:12 to play in the period, ending Carey Price’s bid for a second straight shutout. The Sabres tied the game 6:08 into the third period when Jason Pominville redirected a pass beyond Price.

• Key Moments: The Canadiens had a power play to end regulation and beging the overtime, but came up empty.

• What It Means: Montreal’s record falls to 31-20-7 to remain at 69 points, missing out on a chance to pass the Boston Bruins for first place in the Northeast Division, which would have given them third place in the Eastern Conference.

• What’s Next:
The Canadiens head to Western Canada for games against the Oilers, Flames and Canucks.


  1. Mattyleg says:

    Any word on Max? Arm? Wrist? He okay?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  2. JD_ says:

    * Jhonas Enroth, six NHL games under the belt, runnin’ at 2.90 and .897 this season. Shoot the puck! Gotta feel Lindy Ruff’s pain. He deserves better than what he’s got, although havin’ a guy like Miller is a good thing. Havin’ said all that, I’ll probably stop feelin’ sorry for Ruffy by about midpoint in the first period when that vein in his forehead ruptures all over some hapless ref’s face.

    * You know, I like to make fun of Burkie because (a) He’s the Loafs GM; (b) He’s a blowhard; and (c) He’s the Loafs blowhard GM. No other reason. That is, however, changin’. Way I see it, Burkie trades away a 20-goal scorer in his mid-20s earnin’ sub-$1M, for another 20-goal scorer in his mid-20s earnin’ $3.1M, decides he’s f***** up, so moves the new kid for the 27th and 3,556th overall picks at the 2011 NHL Entry Draft. Whazzat? Once you get past, at best, the first dozen picks, first round is just lipstick on a pig. Yeah, but JD, Jesus Christ was a 7th rounder. Please. Can preordained st00pidity like the Kessel deal really be called a fiasco? What about the rest of it? Does the Gardiner deal make everythin’ ok? Really? I’m startin’ to believe my own spewage: Burkie really does suk.

    * The Versteeg Vexation goes to the heart of one of those NHL myths that persists to this day: If you’re on the roster of a team that wins the Stanley Cup, you’re worth more than your ostensible equivalent in the league. I don’t know, but I thought Antti Niemi’s unceremonious tossage by the wayside kinda put an end to that one, cap constraints notwithstandin’. For some players, the trip to the Cup makes a palpable difference – ref: Mark Messier – for others it is tantamount to bein’ the one-millionth customer at the local Wal*Mart. It’s not really a big deal, not whatsoever, but Versty’s post-trade comments and visceral expression of relief – I swear I heard him say Hallelujah! – did not speak well to his poise nor leadership qualities.

    * Caught Kerry Fraser on OTR last night. He might be vain, but he’s a good shit. Said the biggest pain he ever had to deal with was Blues great Bernie Federko. Although BF whined almost as vigorously as Gretzky, I never woulda thunk it. Also caught Lupul’s post-game comments regardin’ PK. Good stuff. But, really, other than Joffy’s momma, who cares?

    * Drew Stafford has gone six for six shots. Holy cow. Ridiculous. And disrespectful if the followin’ and egregiously edited quote means anythin’, “Some of my shots…call them that…I was just kind…They were exactly shots…It’s a pretty good stat…That’s pretty cool. You don’t see that too often…I can keep it going…my best.” Not since the likes of PK Subban have I seen such arrogant tripe bein’ mouthed off. No worries, Staffy will get what’s comin’ to him cuz nobody’s gonna give him the benefit of the doubt, y’all. He’s got a lot to learn…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  3. matraque says:

    About time…


    Canadien en 5!

    Never go Full Retard

  4. savethepuck says:

    Can anybody tell me what is wrong with Spac? I can’t find anything on any injury reports.

  5. Bugs says:

    Lars Eller out?

    (mumblin) …’bout bloody time…

  6. HabFanSince72 says:

    * Jhonas Enroth, … is it just me or are teams deliberately playing their 3rd stringers against our popgun offence?

    * Burke … it would be funnier if he wasn’t helping the Bruins and Phillies so much.


  7. HabFanSince72 says:

    He’s a 37 year old in the body of a 47 year old?


  8. Gormdog says:

    Send him to Cincinnati!

  9. Fansincebirth says:

    still suffering from face rearrangitis

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  10. matraque says:

    DD is killing it currently.  I’m sure he’ll have another big game tonight.


    Canadien en 5! Never go Full Retard

  11. HABSsince92 says:

    MaxPac is fine they took him out against the Leafs for precautionary reasons (up 3-0 in garbage time why risk a serious injury). Anyways he practiced fully yesterday in Brossard and is good to go.


    Been a Habs fan since I was in 2nd grade and sat behind Patrick Roy at the Aud.

  12. JF says:

    Is it Patrick Lalime or Jhonas Enroth tonight?  The Sabres’ website doesn’t even list Lalime on their roster.

  13. RC-51 says:

    Wondering if these call ups are a showcase for a trade or two?

  14. Gormdog says:

    Hey bugs:

    Do you think DD has Marty St Louis potential?

    Could the ceiling be THAT high? Seems to have more than one prerequesite…

  15. ds says:

    I hope Carey Price’s play transitions to the playoffs and we don’t have a repeat of the year where we finished 1st and Umberger eliminated us with weak shots from the corner.  If Price proves he’s money in the playoffs then the Halak controversy is finally dead.


    Secondly, I am impressed by the organization’s depth.  Gill, Georges, Markov all out and the team throws a shut out of the Leafs on a Saturday.  Impressive.  Would have been impossible last year.


    Thirdly, MTL took out the top seeded team (Washington) and broke their spirit with the playoff series win last year.  Pittsburgh the defending champions came in red hot and got shut down even after Markov went down with injury.  Once the playoffs start, anything can happen.  TBL are not a playoff team.  Boston still choked big time last year.  Philly has no goalie.  Anyone can win the cup this year.

  16. Hellfire_Habsfan says:

    lol…. its wheeling now…. who have like 3 of our prospects

  17. Kooch7800 says:

    No idea.  Maybe he had too many Big Mac’s last night

  18. Gormdog says:

    Didn’t mean send him there to play hockey… ;)

  19. JD_ says:

    The Winter’s Fail

  20. ds says:

    Philly is so overrated it isn’t funny.


    Any team with a hot goalie will do them in.  They look good on paper, but they also played a lot of games over the past year with their top player (Pronger) getting old in age.


    Carolina (Cam Ward0, New York Rangers(Lundquist), Buffalo (Miller), Boston (Thomas/Rask), Montreal (Price) all have excellent goaltenders and if they are hot there is no way Philly will beat them 4 out of 7.


    And Vancouver is never coming out fo the west, Luongo is the most overrated player in the NHL.  Last 2 years he’s allowed 6 goals a game against Chicago, he isn’t going to be anything special this year.


    Detroit, Nashville & LA are all better teams than Vancouver.

  21. habaddict_andy says:

    Injuries and the need for size?

  22. habs001 says:

    we just dont have the depth to go 4 rounds…after 2 rounds last year the team had nothing left..

  23. shiram says:

    Pretty sure it is Enroth.

  24. savethepuck says:

    We are fighting for home ice advantage in the playoffs. These callups are due to mounting injuries not the management trying something out

  25. blu3chip says:

    I bet you also said there is no way Habs can beat Caps and Pens in the playoffs last year.

    Caps in 4

    Pens in 5

    Habs can’t get past 3 rounds

    What else?

  26. KenD29 says:

    Who did?!


    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  27. savethepuck says:

    He is not their third stringer. Lalime sits when Miller plays so Enroth can get starts in the minors because he is young and they want him to develop. When Miller gets a rest, they call up Enroth for the start, they did it earlier in the season.  They have no faith in Lalime based on earlier starts this season

  28. habaddict_andy says:

    His pointe exactement!

  29. Wayne says:

    It’s possible DD could put up similar numbers when he’s ripe. But his stating the age variable, the age of 27, is not a realistic factor. It’s simply a number attributed to Gio and Marty when they blossomed. What we don’t know yet, and what might set DD apart from Gio and Marty is that the latter played with a healthy chips on their shoulders because they felt they had more to prove, and that made them winners.

  30. HABSsince92 says:

    LOL that is funny, I love Star Wars……..I could see him as Cantina Patron / Bounty Hunter.


    Been a Habs fan since I was in 2nd grade and sat behind Patrick Roy at the Aud.

  31. savethepuck says:

    The least of my fears are how Carey plays in the playoffs, he will do great.

    We definitely have a good farm system, all call ups have lived up to or surpassed expectations.

    Agreed, we definitely have a chance, our defensive style and goaltending keeps us in games.


  32. ds says:

    The whole East is pretty much even, there is no dominant team. Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses.


    Flyers are the best bet to win the East, but they don’t have a good goalie, and their defense is one injury to Pronger away from being atrocious.

    Tampa Bay is completely inconsistent.  They either win big or get blown out.  Wasting 7.7 million on a 2nd line center (Lecavalier) has doomed this team for the next 9 years.

    Boston lost Savard and choked with a 3-0 series lead last year.  They have a good team but are not great.  Their forwards are comparable to MTL, their defense with the exception of Chara are much weaker.

    Pittsburgh won’t have Malkin, leaving Crysby alone. 

    Washington is broken, Boudreau will lose his job.

    NYR will go as far as Lundquist and Gaborik at their absolute best will take them, might last 2 rounds.

    Carolina = Cam Ward + Staal, definitely a sleeper team that can do some damage like MTL last year.


    I think if NJ makes the playoffs they are going to take it all, they have everything necessary.


    Obviously in a 7 game series MTL can beat any of these teams or lose to them, going to take a hot team to win the East but everyone is in it.  If MTL gets some of their injured players back and producing (Cammelleri) and some inspired performances (Gomez, Kostitsyn), and the status quo (Gill, Plekanac, Price) they can easily make the finals.  No team out there is that much better.

  33. coachdoug says:

    Gomez for the guy who shoots the canon…we can have one installed at the Bell Center…if a Bruins game gets out of hand we can adjust fire…

  34. Wayne says:

    I forgot about Halak 10 games in… never mind holding my judgement for the playoffs. IMHO, Price is gold and believe it or not, is capable of stealing a cup like Roy and Dryden. Which year? Hell, I don’t know but all signs point to it.


    Last years storybook playoff run was great and the Habs played well and deserved their success. You can bet that this year, teams (and coaches) took notice of last years Hab run and they’ll be doing everything they can to defuse any and all momentum the Habs generate. Pit and Wash didn’t take them seriously in the playoffs last year and it was too late when they did.

  35. andrewberkshire says:

    Anyone else kinda excited to see Nash in action? Obviously its still preferable that Spacek can go but Nash holds a lot of promise.

  36. Mattyleg says:

    Ahhh. Cheerz.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  37. Bugs says:

    Krob-1000, party-poopin droid scheduled for disassembly.

  38. Bugs says:

    Oooo, I like that one!

  39. savethepuck says:

    I stated earlier that the last time Miller rested, the Sabres brought up Enroth for the start. The organization has no faith in Lalime because of the way he played earlier in the season.  They keep Enroth in the minors to get starts and to develop.

  40. says:

    They drew the backup?

    For the love of God Shoot, I don’t care if its from the red line, put the puck on net!!!!



    They Call Me Shane

  41. savethepuck says:

    The Habs only have him signed til this summer, so if he is ready, healthy and in game shape, why would they stop him from playing late in the playodffs if they were confident he could help the team win.  The Habs are at no risk if he gets hurt again, Markov is.

  42. krob1000 says:

    If Zherdev ends up on waivers would you want him?

  43. Say Ash says:

    To Darth Rask.

  44. krob1000 says:

    Swede! I mean sweet! just caught that on  checking for my pool

  45. Morenz7 says:

    Vladimir Zharkov is turncoat battle group commander, and evil genius.

  46. Bugs says:

    Well, you tell me, did Marty St-Louie have this good a start when he first came in?

    Do you see Dezzy slowing down at some/point?

    To put it in perspective: I see the Pac-Man slowin down at some point, but not Dezzy.

    That’s just my opinion, mind.

  47. Bugs says:

    Saku Koivu – Sith apprentice.

  48. Admiral_Adama says:

    Prolly been asked a dozen times or so, but I’ll try it myself… What are the chances Gorges and Markov come back for playoff time? I notice when Malkin went down, it wasn;t for the season, but until SEPTEMBER. Nothing like that reported about our two D-Men.  It’d be one hell of a boost knowing that there is a good chance they could come back.

  49. savethepuck says:

    That was very uncharacteristic of the Laff organization to make a stupid mistake like that.

  50. observer says:

    lalime is not playing

  51. SeriousFan09 says:

    Down Goes Brown gives a history of violence in hockey games

    Personal favourite:

    April 20, 1984 – The Canadiens and Nordiques combine for over 250 penalty minutes and 10 ejections in a game that comes to be known as “la bataille du Vendredi saint” or, in English, “pretty standard for a game between Quebec and Montreal”.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  52. observer says:

    lalime not starting. swedish rookie called up.

  53. krob1000 says:

    meh…they play a French Canadian….he’ll play the Habs better than Miller….it never fails when the Habs play a French Canadian goalie

  54. Wayne says:

    Lalime. Uh, let’s see. Quebec born goalie against the Habs. Has this been done before? I mean, what are the Sabres thinking. It’s not like other PQ goalies get up for these games, right? OK, I’ll shut now.


    Your welcome…

  55. shiram says:

    They signed him this summer, he is on a brand new contract. Also Price probably wants to wait to negotiate a bigger contract when his current one expires.

  56. Admiral_Adama says:

    Hey, what’s taking the Habs so long signing Price uber-long-term?

  57. Hobie Hansen says:

    So the Ottawa Sun is buzzing with reports that the Habs have contacted the Sens about Neal, Carkner, Ruutu and Phillips…take the info for what it’s worth i guess.

  58. Admiral_Adama says:

    Two years is not uber-long-term.  I felt they signed him to the smallie to see how he pans out.  I figure he’d panned out by now.

  59. Bugs says:

    Jhonas Enroth sounds really “Star Wars”, dontcha think? Either a Coruscant senator or a Malastarian bounty-hunter, I would say.

    What are other NHL names that could be transposed to that galaxy far, far away?

  60. SeriousFan09 says:

    ACL injuries are a long road to recovery, Markov just had his 2nd knee operation in less than a year so he’ll be even longer coming back this time. Gorges took longer to get his knee fixed and he should take a careful path as well. I don’t expect to see them until 2011 training camp.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  61. krob1000 says:

    I found this a couple of weeks back but haven’t wanted to get my hopes up  “Markov, who said he’s been rehabbing four-plus hours a day, clarified how he got injured, noting that his skate got caught in an ice groove and twisted his leg awkwardly as he fell into the Hurricanes’ Eric Staal. The injury was his second ACL tear suffered in less than seven months. (Updated 01/15/2011).

    4 hours a day is some serious rehab and if he was doing it htat hard that long ago you know somewhere in his mind he is wanting to make it for theplayoffs….I personally don’t think the Habs would elt him…but hockey players want to compete…especially in the Spring. I haven’t heard anything of the sort re Gorges…I think a Markov at 75 or 80 percent still makes our team better….not the case with Gorges IMO.

  62. habs03 says:

    Teams can’t talk with players about a new contact until they enter the final year of their current deal, so P.G. can’t really talk to Price about a long term contact until this july 1st.

  63. shiram says:

    The habs might want to expand Price’s contract right now, but Price does not. He wants to wait out his present contract to go for a bigger one when his present one expires.

    If the Habs resign him, as i’m sure they want too, it will probably a long deal, a la Plekanec.

  64. Bugs says:

    Gettin the ball rollin: Cal Clutterbuck is a Toydarian junk freighter captain.

  65. dh says:

    Not to dis the team’s depth but the laffs looked pretty bad last game.

    If they can do the same tonight, it will be more convincing.

  66. Admiral_Adama says:

    Zenon Konopka.  Sounds like an offshoot Wookee race of inbreds.

  67. GrimJim says:

    Zdeno Chara – slave trader from Tatooene

  68. fbkj says:

    So is lalime starting?

  69. adam76 says:

    Price is not strong one-on-one (why I thought the whole word up “pose” was a punk move), but I felt he did well in the shootout last night.  The game winner was a beaty.

    In Feb, Montreal has 10 points out of 16.  Not bad.

  70. deuce6 says:

    If PG does deal for a player or two, I can safely say that none of the players mentioned in that article would be demoted or sat down…Pacioretty, Pouliot, Weber, and Desharnais are a fixture on this team..As much as a great talent Subban is, I have a huge problem with him logging 30 minutes a game..He needs a vet to help shoulder that load..

    Having 3 rookies and 2 journey men “band-aiding” our defense kinda speaks for itself..I disagree with this article completely..We need size in our top 6 and another top 4 defensman..

    —————— Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?

  71. The Cat says:

    Im well aware that Arpon Basu’s crap smells like lilac on here but its a bit early for his assesment yet. Id wait after the 3 game road swing. The habs havent shown they can be as effective on the road without the last change so far, but if they do look like theyve turned it around, why not go for it? Pittsburghs crapping out, Washington looks ordinary, Rangers are inconsistent, virtually everybodys in it. And Im of the belief that if the window of opportunity presents itself, you got to go for it. Why not make a splash, its been years since the habs made a splash and look where that gets them.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  72. HabFanSince72 says:

    How many chances have you had to make a witty or interesting comment? I think we’re at 1000 plus aren’t we?

  73. patience is a virtue says:

    how bout being down 2 more top six defensemen?  the first two don’t count, because we just have to suck that up for the duration, but i think the team, and Price in particular, did ok, considering Gill, Spac and Cam are all out and Buffalo is one of the hottest teams in the NHL in 2011.  sure, i want them to win and they should have with the game in hand twice, but i think the fact that we expect them to win that game given the circumstances is actually a very good sign.

    even if Gill and Spac come back, I am thinking PG needs to make a move for a defenseman.  i was leaning towards riding out the season as is, but i think the team deserves more.  they have fought hard to be where they are in the standings and all their competitors are busy picking up players.

    i’m hoping for Franson for AK.

  74. LA Loyalist says:

    thanks guys. means a lot. not easy adjusting to the new NHL.

  75. G-Man says:

    Tap the Caps Lock key, Leaf fan.

  76. G-Man says:

    Shouldn’t you be on the Leafs Losers since 67 site?

  77. Adam says:

    Yes, clearly a loss in a shoot-out, which any hockey player or goalie will tell you is a crapshoot, negates a season that has been borderline Vezina-worthy.

    Caps lock button is on the left, buddy.

  78. The Cat says:

    That was poetic! Really paints a nice picture.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  79. LA Loyalist says:

    Leaving JM out of it for the moment,  why in hockey and football – do coaches keep using the “prevent” defense when it almost never works? This makes no sense but they keep doing it? 

    Any reasonable explanation considered.

  80. observer says:

    Re: Basu: “Frankly, the Canadiens are not in a situation where the addition of one or two players could mean the difference between a Cup run and a first round exit. ”  ——————–OH YES THEY ARE!

  81. observer says:


  82. observer says:

    TSN – “Price had three chances to win it early on, but was beaten on near-identical shots to the stick side by Thomas Vanek, Tyler Ennis and Nathan Gerbe.”  – – – – – PRICE HAD THREE SEPARATE CHANCES TO END THE GAME WITH ONE SAVE – HE FAILED MISERABLY EACH OF THOSE THREE TIMES.

  83. SeriousFan09 says:

    Arpon Basu nails it on the head again RE the Trade Deadline


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  84. dre1744 says:

    YUp agreed but if our boys scored a few of those type of goals everyone here would be saying wow what a awesome shot that was that won the shootout!!!!!!

  85. Habs_Fan_In_Edmonton says:

    Couldn’t agree more. Always wanted them to get a win in Edmonton while I am in attendance

  86. HABZ24 says:

    what a shootout, woulda been great if pouliot woulda gotten that one handed goal again but… why does everyone try n deek why doesnt anyone just take two strides and blast the bloody biscut in the basket.suban shoulda letter rip insteda show boating.

  87. dre1744 says:

    I just hope the Habs win a couple of games out here in the west when they come thru this week and next. They always have a tough time here!!!!!

  88. gohabsgo25 says:

    i am not sure why hamrilik is on our team, he is far by the worst defencemen on our team, and the second goal was all his fault. i hope we dont sign him back.

    anyone blaming price for any of the shootout goals is not a hockey fan those shots were no chance in hell he could stop that but maybe the last one.

    were tied for the division and hopefully grab 2 out of 3 in our western trip

  89. JIMVINNY says:

    Especially the one Gerbe scored.  From the back angle, Carey had the spot covered.  That shot shouldn’t have gone in.  Sometimes you just have to give the shooters credit.

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  91. LA Loyalist says:

    The places I’ve lived are special to me, each in their own way, Nice, Paris and Montreal particularly so, LA not so much, though I am tied to it like a slave.

    Montreal has it’s own bitter-sweetness due to the politics, that you guys still live with on a day-to-day basis.

    I’m sorry if my cultural references are not as au courant as yours, but I’ve done my bit as an expat, when I’ve had the chance I’ve come back and shot in Montreal, even if it cost more than other places, and a few other things.

    Many of the things I remember are long gone and probably never existed to you, I was there when L’Express opened, and ate there for many, many years. I was in Bonaparte one night when the chef came out to greet a celibrity, whom Mick Jagger thought was him, but it was actually Bryan Hayward – Roy’s backup whom chef wanted to see. Fun things like that.

    Climbing over snow banks to get St. Viateur bagels at 3 in the morning, Beautys, Salon des Cents, Leonard Cohen’s house on St. Urbain, Quartier Libre,  trying to drive a 914 in the snow, many, many other places and things and people. Yeah, I’m out of date. I listen to that Blue Rodeo song ‘Montreal’ sometimes it brings back a lot of memories.

    But mostly I remember very exciting hockey teams that showed up most nights.

    It’s hard to let go of that. I’m sorry.



  92. Propwash says:

    The majority that went by him in the shootout were quick corner snapshots. No goalie can stop them all.

  93. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Price could’ve won the game 3 times with a save. Or he could have lost it several times earlier by not making the save. It’s a shootout folks. May as well roll the dice.

  94. fbkj says:

    no loser point is what i would award to the awkward ex montrealer thats become as vapid as his surrounding but awkwardly cites things like, expressions and dated points of interest, that on top of the obvious things WE enjoy as montrealers

  95. LA Loyalist says:

    A few comas is more like it.

    We blow a 2 goal lead to the Sabres back-up goalie at home on a night Boston loses.

    Loser point. Well named.

  96. Mattyleg says:

    He seemed fine to me, but I’m sure someone’ll tell you he should be taken out behind the shed and shot.

    Like I said, he seemed fine. Played a safe game.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  97. Thomas says:

    Hey I missed the game, anyone have any comments on how Nash played, was he alright?

  98. Rainrocket16 says:

    On lighter notes……..Price made one of the best saves I have ever seen him make! Wish he just would stopped on of those shootout attempts, would have capped an Epic victory! Can’t win em all and Buffalo continues to pretend to be a team! trust me it wont last they always do this then fall short! Boston is about to show their true colors and start losing easy matchups.  Things will be fine!

    AK is probably done with us come Feb 28th, possibly gonna lose someone else we are not suspecting, seems to always happen that way!

    Everyone is praising this Tyler Myers punk! Such a Chara of a future goon. I hate the…..

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  99. andrewberkshire says:

    True that!

  100. fbkj says:

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  101. SpankyDriscoll says:

    i still have a pair of tickets for the heritage classic. face value. text me. 403 700 7080

  102. nunacanadien says:

    Maybe its time to wonder why do we always have to sign smaller players who are more prone to get hurt?  After the lockout it was obvious the league had gone to the goon style of hockey and Montreal did not keep up.  We all thought when Gainey blew up the team he would rebuild to match the league, as the islanders did in getting goon hockey.  Maybe its time the habs consider either going really small and playing the real fast style hockey we had under Koivu, or at least getting some balance by signing some bigger players.

  103. Muckbringer says:

    no one here wants to respect the ticket….

  104. observer says:

    he is like belichick – boring and saying nothing but moving his lips in monotone.

  105. fbkj says:

    whish is saying a lot

  106. Jonson says:

    congrats on the ticket :)

  107. Muckbringer says:

    thanks dude, my app smells of rich mohoganney

  108. HabFanSince72 says:

    He’s only played 12 games.

    My how you Leafers get excited.


  109. Muckbringer says:

    kessel and grabo came up with 2 huge ones for us and my ticket, but to you i say….

    everything is all right!!!

  110. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    You are absolutely right, Price could’ve won the game three times with a save. And I have to say that your list of who shot and the ensuing result is also bang on.

  111. Cool Ice Price says:

    What comes out of Martins mouth is 100% garbage.

  112. andrewberkshire says:

    Learn to use the spacebar.

  113. observer says:

    kelly to boston for 2nd round pick    —————-

  114. Muckbringer says:

    yeah it wouldve been nice but im sorry, im not gonna complain. just won 923.40 on a $5 proline ticket!!!!!!!!!!

  115. observer says:

    Price had 3 chances to end the game with one single save – all 3 times he failed. Order used by Martin: David DesharnaisMTLGoal

    Tomas PlekanecMTLGoal

    Brian GiontaMTLSave

    Benoit PouliotMTLMiss

    Max PaciorettyMTLGoal

    Scott GomezMTLSave

    P.K. SubbanMTLMiss

    Andrei KostitsynMTLSave

    Tom PyattMTLSave

    James WisniewskiMTLMiss

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  117. habstrinifan says:

    Good Morning Mr. Boone!

    I greatly appreciate the opportunity to come on this site and follow the game thru your blog. It makes me feel as part of a community and relieves my tension and provides some laughs as I watch your tension grow.

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  119. J.J. of Turku says:

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    I’m starting to like very much Pacioretty, Pouliot and Daredevil. Could be a helluva line too?

  120. habstrinifan says:

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  122. observer says:

    and reimer. that is the best goalie theyve had there in years.

  123. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    a few comma’s wouldn’t hurt either.

  124. Mattyleg says:

    We’ll be grand.

    Where we finish doesn’t really matter very much, to be honest.

    Playing any team in the top 8 will be tough (for them too) so it’s a pretty good position to be in.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  125. Mattyleg says:

    Not as good as your boy Reimer, eh?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  126. WindsorHab-10 says:

    People blaming Price for the loss can either shut it or go to hell. He’s the reason we got one point. Blame the system that when you take a 2 goal lead, you sit back & protect it. That’s what cost us the extra point, not the Sabres, not Enroth & definitely not Price.

  127. habstrinifan says:

    Phew! I was afraid to post re A. Basu cause I didnt want to be seen as always disagreeing with him. I am glad that I have company on this one. He delineated his thoughts very well and all in all it is a great article.

    But you are right observer. When you consider how well the team has managed with all the injuries and rookies then it is only fair to the players to give them the best opportunity to go far into the playoffs.

    I would be ok now if we dont get another defenseman, providing all the injured defensemen can return and stay healthy for the playoffs and providing that we keep all our youngsters presently up here with the team. Maybe including Nash. I salivate at any 6′ plus 220 lbs playing small minutes with toughness and meanness. I think as an aggregate our defense is filled with skill and with Gill and Nash we would have sufficient size.

    What we really reaaly need is that tough, intense, take-no-bs forward(s) who can add intensity and fear on the team. If we had a player like that then our fortunes at last night’s game would have been rosier.

    Those are hard to get but they also can be had for draft picks as opposed to prospects.

    If we cant find a better than average ‘big forward’ then I would take A. Basu’s suggestion. Get a grit guy for a low round draft choice. But then I would take one extra step. I would take a chance on a player like Kovalev. A pure forward. A dicey risk I grant you but with this team around him, maybe Kovalev is that scoring threat that will help. And he wil be cheap.

    I think A. Basu is generally right. Dont give up anything significant. But he is wrong in assuming that one or two players cant impact our playoff run. I think this team deserves a chance.

    We need an injection on offense. Our young guys are stepping up to the plate. But the production of the mainstays on offense have been anemic all season. Nothing indicates it will change for the palyoffs… including the return of Cam. Make the move to add more goals/grit (in the same player if you can).

    Our young defense and goalie will take us through.


  128. Mike D says:

    Skillsie and Spatcho will be back soon enough, but I agree that PK playing 30 min. is too much.

    Realistically, what would you trade away for a top 6 winger (with size) and a top 4 defensive Dman? I’m curious. I know we have the cap space, but the problem is that we can’t just sign these guys like free agents. We have to give up something in return and if that something has real value, then we set ourselves back for what? A marginal improvement that still leaves us as longshots for the cup.

    – Honestly yours

  129. Mike D says:

    I’m inclined to agree with Arpon’s opinion about the Habs being prudent, not making major moves this year and sacrificing the future for an unlikely cup run. We’re a better team than many pundits give us credit for so I say let the kids learn from the experience of the playoffs and continue to build team chemistry. We may surprise people as it is with our current roster, and if not, we still have good youth and prospects to help us in the coming years.

    Basically, I’d rather have a team that can be perennial contenders with a bright future, than take risks for a long-shot cup run only to come up short and then be behind the 8-ball for years and look back saying, “we had such a bright future but lost an opportunity…”. Hell, even if we pulled it off, we’d likely have to pull a Chicago and give away good talent just to get under the cap and hope that what’s left is respectable and good enough just to make the playoffs. No thanks.

    As you and I have discussed before, I think we should use this trade deadline to be sellers, not buyers. For example, when one of the buying teams misses out on the veteran Dman they were looking for (Phillips, Brewer, etc.), we offer them Spacek at a reasonable price and help our cap next year. Heck, if the team is desperate enough, we might even get more for him than we expected.

    Just my $0.02 anyways.

    – Honestly yours

  130. Duracell3 says:

    That was real surprising, I would have gone with DD, or hell even Weber.

  131. RC-51 says:

    LEAFS WIN! Leafs win! LEAFS WIN!

  132. LA Loyalist says:

    You are totally right. I watched a guy literally bounce off Patrick Marleau in the crease the other night. We don’t have a forward who can or will plant himself like that.

  133. LA Loyalist says:

    hmmm, geee, “Why do we need to upgrade toughness and size?”

    Forget that wacky game against Boston, in one game anything can happen, we are concerned about the playoffs.

    Did you not watch our series against Philly last year? Late news blast: Philly had their way with our Smurf(tm) forwards and ran our goalie and crashed our net at will.

    I hope you like golf, because that’s what we will be playing if this team is not substantially toughened up in the next few weeks. 

    And maybe that’s ok, if the deals are not there, we wait until next year and hold onto our prospects and wait on Markov and Gorges. Disappointing, but maybe not worth sacrificing the next 2,3 years. In that sense I agree on not making a “knee-jerk” deal, it has to be a good deal, maybe not Wiz good, but reasonably good.

    But don’t imagine we can go 6-7 games this year with Boston or Philly and beat either of them. I also would not bet against NJ making the playoffs, though many of you poo-poo’d that just a couple of weeks ago.

    It’s going to be an interesting 2 weeks.



  134. SuperYogurt says:

    When did Eller play centre? I don’t seem to remember many games where he did. If he did play centre, who did he play with? Probably Moen and Pyatt? Not exactly the kind of linemates who can get you points.

    Weber played horribly as a forward. Spacek did poorly when switched to the wrong side. Do you think Gionta would make a great centre? Do you think DD or Gomez would make great wingers? Com’on man, hockey positions make a big difference. If you’ve played nothing but centre all your life, you can be sure that it’s gonna be hard transitioning into another position, especially at the NHL level with a bare-minimum 10 minutes of ice-time per game.

    Lastly, Eller has much better potential than DD. Don’t get me wrong, I love DD, but Eller’s bigger, has the same determination, has great puck skills, and has a great hockey sense. There’s a reason both the Blues and the Habs considered him at least an NHL-level 2nd-line centre. Not to mention he’s a few years younger than DD. Does he need to develop? Yes. Is he replaced by DD? No way.

    And don’t reply with your typical condescending one-liners like you did with jrshabs1.

  135. JohnBellyful says:

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  136. GrimJim says:

    I have an extra ticket for the Heritage Classic. Sec H, row 13, willing to sell. If you are interested, email me through HIO.

  137. jrshabs1 says:

    Why do you type in tongue’s bugs? I must not be at your level or even in your dimension. Eller is a young kid who plays center just as well or better than our #11. Why doesn’t JM move #11 to wing? You can’t still be sore about the departure of #41 and are taking it out on Eller are you? If you can respond in plain English I’d love to read what you have to say. I like Eller’s game and if he’s used properly… maybe and I stress maybe you will to.  What kind of tv reception do you get in that hole?


    Go Habs Go!!

  138. fbkj says:

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  139. Say Ash says:

    Come trade deadline, you’re gonna be numb.

  140. JohnBellyful says:

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  141. fbkj says:

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  142. JohnBellyful says:

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  143. CanadienBoy says:

    When Price and Lucigoon when at it in the goalie crease, twice PK try to move him and could not do it that why. Detroit did not have that problem.

  144. fbkj says:

    i have a hunch they are because our d corps has been teabagged this season

  145. RC-51 says:

    Wondering if these call ups are a showcase for a trade or two?

  146. jrshabs1 says:

     Imagine the future..with Eller leading the charge of course.



    Go Habs Go!!

  147. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    If the Leafs and Bruins are talking about Kaberle, you have to think Burke is going to be pretty adamant about evaluating what he gets (this time).

  148. Bugs says:

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  150. Danno says:

    That’s crackalackin’ JB!

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  151. RC-51 says:

    Calling them an NHL franchise is putting it mildly, more like a JOKE than anything else!

  152. fbkj says:

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  153. JohnBellyful says:

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  154. alestar says:

    But Gorges is also coming off major knee surgery, he’ll not be dealing from a point of strength for a long term deal at big $$$


    XXIV…and counting

  155. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    match point! haha

  156. SeriousFan09 says:

    Find me a guy who wouldn’t look favourably on getting the hell out of Toronto.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  157. JohnBellyful says:

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  159. The M says:

    The thing about the Habs that i’ve really found lacking is the ability to dominate on the cycle and the biggest reason the Habs lack scoring.  Having a big forward to clear space and get a defenceman to “bail” on the forcheck and cough the puck up is something the Habs don’t have.  Having Tom Pyatt bear down on you is not the same as having Tim Jackman or James Neal crashing in on the forcheck. 

  160. RC-51 says:

    Penner, Konoptka,Philips are players I would like to see wearing the bleu,blanc et rouge come Feb 28th

  161. jrshabs1 says:

     Bug’s ..startin to bug again. If JM would just leave Eller at centre then he will be what we (I), thought he would be. There is no need to hate on Eller. Who would you replace him with anyway? I’m all for keeping Eller.

    Get back in the hole rabbit!




    Go Habs Go!!

  162. Bugs says:

    Ok, first of all, I’m not buggin, Jr. Reckon Belly saw what I was doin so no need for me to clarify anything for you.

    Secondly: Eller DID play centre, Jr, a heck of a lot longer than Dezzy did, so spare me the ridiculous “Eller would be god of the universe if he played at centre” argument, please.

    I mean, YOU played hockey, right, Jr? When you play at a different position, do you FORGET how to play? Do you stumble around in a panic goin “what do I do, what do I DOOO??!!!” You are now INCAPABLE of being effective at the game? Can’t shoot, can’t pass, can’t do nuthin no more, is that it? C’mon.

    Third: He IS “replaced”, Jr; that’s done. I don’t know where you’ve been; maybe you were on vacation or something but Eller IS replaced now. Dezzy took his spot. Happened a while back. Doesn’t look like it’s gonna change neither.

    Eller is now a 4th-liner. A very lucky 4th-liner if you ask me. And one that’s about to be “replaced” with White. … whether I uhh…go back to my hole or not. Ok, Jr?


  163. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    *sorry, three defencemen

  164. fbkj says:

    thats the plan

  165. Danno says:

    Do you argue with yourself? Get into heated discussions? Force the mods to ban one of your personae? Does one of your avatars have a yellow raincoat?


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  166. Danno says:

    What? Not all Danes are Great?


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  167. JohnBellyful says:

    Crazy, eh? Here’s something else that’s weird. After my pants buzzed, my zipper opened and out came a fax. (Keep it clean, guys. Don’t go for the obvious.)

  168. CanadienBoy says:

    The K bro.. for Ryan Suter  got to make up for giving up SK for nothing 

  169. Bugs says:

    I wasn’t comparing, Yogie; I was drawing a parallel, making a point. That point is Crosby can play with a sprinkler and a fire-hydrant as linemates, not Eller should be like Crosby. The point is, if you got talent to produce, you produce, and that’s it. You’d have us believe Eller’s production would soar with “better” linemates but don’t address how he would actually PLAY better than what we’ve seen with OUR OWN EYES. It’s not because he plays with Moen that HE gets bumped off the puck and it’s not because he plays with Plekanec that his passing inability will disappear.

    Eller’s a forward. He should be able to play positions 1-12. Not defence. Like your Weber comparison. And Spacek certainly wasn’t “horrible” playing on his other side. And if non-horrible Spacek STILL picked up points on his wrong side, so should Eller.

    Only production matters, Yogie. Only victory. All the time. Every time. Plecky never stopped producing; that’s why he stayed. Price was a 5th overall pick; that why he stayed. And Pacioretty?

    He went back down to Hamilton cuz he was totally useless last year. Same thing for Eller.

    I’m not knockin his potential; yes, I see it too. But “potential” ain’t payin the rent and Eller is totally useless and should go to Hamilton to perfect that potential, become as good as we think he can be after seeing him play with our eyes, and come back when he can fulfill his mandate, which is to produce.

    In fact, why are we even arguing? Management sees it my way too and that’s what they’re gonna do…albeit a bit late for my taste. Shoulda been done months ago. Could’ve added some sandpaper to White instead…

  170. fbkj says:

    clarkson is a moen clone

  171. since1988 says:

    Look for Gorges to be offered a contract similar to that of Trevor Daley or Stephan Robidad of Dallas



    “When people agree with me i always feel that i must be wrong” – Oscar Wilde

  172. Bugs says:

    Penner, Neil, Clarkson.

    I’m out.

  173. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Why do we need to upgrade toughness and size?  That would require us to change the style and philosophy that has defined this team since JM took over. The majority of pre-game interviews, opponents and coaches talk about being intimidated by our speed and skill.

    It seems a shame to change the philosophy of the team because of one game against the Bruins in which their physicality had NO impact whatsoever on the score of the game (it was 6-6 from the second period on, which was when the rough stuff started), but rather was an affront to the pride of the team’s fans — and trust me I wanted someone to belt Lucic as much as anyone.

    But it would be a kneejerk reaction, and a bad one, to pick up someone who doesn’t fit into our system, which has been pretty successful thus far — a conference final last year and a dogfight for the divisional title this year — because we want to avenge our wounded egos and stop Bruins fans from calling us names.

    I think we’re in need of a defenceman myself, so I’d look at the two on your list as a starting point.

  174. Bugs says:

    This is Montreal, baby; you can get a danish at any corner.

  175. LA Loyalist says:

    the upside of schizophrenia is neither of you is ever lonely.

  176. JohnBellyful says:

    I thought they all sounded alike. As for the four others, can you keep a secret? I have multiple personalities and sometimes when I forget my meds, and the moon is full, … I post. Under different names, different personnas. Personnae. And the next day, when I see what I’ve written, …. oh, the shame.

  177. fbkj says:

    jacques martin sucks?

  178. CanadienBoy says:

    I give George and Weber any days for him ,he is the answers to Chara and Pronger and not George

  179. JohnBellyful says:

    Geez, Bugs, I was just tryin’ to keep a kid’s spirits up, inject some positivity on a site that’s not noted for such, and what do I get: suspicion. He DOES bring somethin’ to the table. A Danish. Points, not so much. But when has that been a criteria for judgin’ a player’s worth to a team. And to think my next post was to give a high five to what’s-his-name, Moen. I’m going back to my man-hovel. I have never been so humiliated in the last six hours.

  180. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Bob McKenzie and Sportsnet reporting that Kaberle has not waived his no trade clause, but would look favourably on going to Boston.

  181. Bugs says:

    You ask a question you know the answer to and then try to double-talk your way out of assigning Eller any blame regardless. If you can, you play. If you got game, you bring it. I doubt Crosby would be totally inept playing with Darche and Moen. And I doubt Dezzy would be too.

    We’re not asking Eller to play defence so the comparison with Weber is irrational. Furthermore, Spacek played the whole year last year on the wrong wing. “Horrible” all year? Really? No. A few games this year is all. Exaggerated by you. No a viable comparison either.

    Hey, my bow-legged Chinese cousin has TONS more “potential” than BOTH those players put together, but sadly, that potential doesn’t translate to ACTUAL production NOW.

    Eller is replaced by Dezzy. And on his way to Hamilton. To…perfect his “potential”, you could say.

  182. fbkj says:

    so what your saying is, goalies can have an impact on hockey games? for realz?

  183. Bugs says:

    Lemme see if I got this…you grant that they’re radically different but suggest their agents can argue for the same money?

  184. Bugs says:

    I never know when you’re playin us, Belly. “I know he doesn’t bring anything to the table, but let’s keep Lars anyway.”

    I’m not fallin for that, buddy.

  185. fbkj says:

    glad to see your profile pic is in black and white

    im sure it has no concruence to the fact that you see things in full spectrum

    go get em tiger

  186. punkster says:

    353 of those accounts are mine. No idea who those other imposters are, do you?


  187. The M says:

    These are players the Habs (in my so very humble opinion) should be targeting before the trade deadline.  These are not the talented/star players, such as Vermette/Richards but players who would upgrade the toughness and size on this team.   These are also players who can also play the game.


    All of these players would be available at the right price, and although they may be expensive would be needed against a bigger tougher opponent in the playoffs.  Most of the players are on bottom dwelling teams but some such as Eager or Jackman are there because they are tough guys who play a great physical game while combining some offense.


    Currently the only forward on the Habs who is the least bit intimidating is Travis Moen and if Andrei Kostitsyn is leading your team in hits you have serious physicality  issues.


    Player (team) Contract in $ and Years left


    Dustin Penner (Edm)      4.25m,                 2 years

    JF Jacques (Edm)              0.68m,                  1 year

    Zenon Konoptka, (NYI)  0.6m,                     1 year

    Matt Carkner (OTT)         0.7m,                     2years

    Chris Phillips (OTT)           3.5m,                     1year

    Chris Neil (OTT)                 2m,                        3years

    David Clarkson(NJD)       2.67m                    3years

    Steve Bernier (FLO)        2m,                        1year

    Bryan Allen (FLO)             2.9m,                     2years

    Ben Eager (SJ)                   0.97m                    1year

    Tim Jackman(CGY)           0.55m                    2years

  188. Bugs says:

    Boston callin up Kaberle from farm team in Toranna…

    There is no part of that that doesn’t make me go “Huh???”

    What the HELL did I miss?

  189. JohnBellyful says:

    I can’t believe they’re sitting out Eller. He’s got eight points. I know, I know, they’re not great numbers and he hasn’t scored in a while, and he does seem to have trouble generating offence, and sometimes he kinda gets tossed around a bit, and, yes, you could argue he puts himself out of position now and then, and I’m not forgettin’ he’s -6, fourth worst on the team but … I like the kid.

    Maybe his being with the team all season hasn’t worked out so far and maybe he does need some seasoning down on the farm team. I won’t argue with the experts (HIO has 357 alone).

    But, Lars, kammerat, if that happens, if you get sent to the ‘Dogs, I want you to know I’ll be rootin’ for yer. Don’t worry, you’ll be a regular again, that’s how much faith I have in you. Remember: You don’t have to be Great, just be Good.

  190. Bugs says:

    Say, that Nash is doin’ alright…

  191. observer says:

    glad to see you are happy with the defeat. as vince lombardi said “the only good loser is a LOSER”!

  192. fbkj says:

    i preffered it when you were making up stats about price, then feigning outrage over said self made up stats

  193. fbkj says:

    i could understand you looking for a feed if you lived in australia, but you live in brossard o_0

  194. LA Loyalist says:

    Man, you are impossible to please :) that was actually pretty funny. You’re ok when I’m on my meds.

  195. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    TSN said in the Sabres/Habs ice chips that Miller was starting.  Mistake or revision? Perhaps that is filmed earlier in the day?

  196. observer says:

    i repeat he himself could have won the game by kicking that makeable field goal THREE DIFFERENT TIMES — er i mean stop any of 3 shots – and he did not do it. he himself this minute must have blamed himself because for the millions he makes that is what he is paid to do.

  197. Qais says:

    Any site to watch the game? doesent work

  198. Aybara says:

    you have to download the veetle player for the link. Other than that, can’t help ya


  199. Displaced says:

    Radically different players.  But similar in age and contact status. 

    But, tom, I beg to differ.  Everybody plays in the same league with same cap rules.  The contracts have to be basically inline or we have cap anarchy which leads to contracts like Redden, Souray, Finger, and others who are overpaid relative to their value ranked against their peers. 

    Who’s leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  200. Bugs says:

    Then you’ll allow this sentence may lead to some confusion: “Byfuglien got a 5 year, $26m extension.  What does that suggest Gorges is worth?”

    You just meant that as a GENERAL question? Sorta like “If Marky got 6.75, what does that Alex Picard is worth?”?

    Ok, umm, 4 years, 15-16mil for Gorges?

  201. SuperYogurt says:

    Not double-talking at all. I didn’t know who Eller played with. Moen and Pyatt was a guess since Eller was mostly on the 4th line. Don’t compare Crosby with any player in the Canadiens line-up, that’s a guy who can put up 100+ points per season, the closest guy we have is Plekanec. I am pretty sure that if DD were with Moen and Pyatt, he’d have quite a bit more trouble putting up points.

    No, Eller doesn’t play defense, but my point is that position is important. If you get switched out of your natural position, it takes a while to adjust, especially if it’s your first NHL season. Spacek himself said that he had trouble playing on the wrong side.

    Not sure what your point is with your “cousin,” but I’m guessing you’re saying potential doesn’t matter, only production does? I disagree. We kept Plekanec because of his potential, we kept Pacioretty because of his potential, we kept Price because of his potential. Eller has shown he can play in the NHL, and has shown flashes of high-level skill and hockey smarts. Like I said, he still needs to develop, but he’s also only 21.

  202. fbkj says:

    bugs knows better than to reply to me, not worried

  203. TomNickle says:

    Byfuglien’s contract has no bearing on what Gorges gets.  If there were ever two polar opposites in terms of defensemen in the NHL, it would be them.

  204. Displaced says:

    Byfuglien got a 5 year, $26m extension.  What does that suggest Gorges is worth?  Anyone? 

    Granted they play radically different styles, but I’ll get the ball rolling at $3m-ish for a 3-4 year deal TOPS.  More than that and we’re overpaying for a good to very good, one-dimensional player coming off season-injury surgery.  If we need to pay more than that, we should consider another RFA off-season deal.

    Submitted for your approval, with most humble regards…



    Who’s leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  205. olematelot says:

    So what are you saying here, Price was the only reason it went to a shootout, the team sleptwalked thru the 2nd and 3rd.

  206. Bugs says:

    Ooohh, the “future”, oohhhh. See, I thought you were talkin about right NOW…when Eller is sucking. “In the future,” hey, let’s see if my bow-legged Chinese cousin can make the team too.

    And yes, Dezzy would still be good on the wing and Gio would still put up points at centre.

    And yeah, Jack Marty has been “complimenting Eller” so much (to save face on the Halak deal) that he MADE HIM A HEALTHY SCRATCH. Lovely. Truth of the matter is that if Eller had been anything BUT inept, Dezzy wouldn’t be here. You know that, I know that, everyone knows that. I’m not making anything up here.

    And I love your final bit, agreeing to disagree, “I was making beautiful, beautiful points that were steeped in logic and human goodness whereas you chose only to nickname me instead of making any points at all, in essence, announcing your subhumanity; yes, this is how I agree to disagree.” …calling you names… C’mon, Yogie, is that all you got?

  207. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    uh-oh, be prepared for Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Bugs!

  208. Nahlsy says:

    Toronto has stopped being it’s own NHL franchise and simply seems to exist to provide Boston with talent now. Such as Rask, Seguin, 1st and 2nd round draft picks this year to be named later, now apparently Kaberle…. etc

  209. samTHEman says:

    stop crying

  210. HabFanSince72 says:

    Our younger players were great.

    The older ones not so good.


  211. observer says:

    when you are up 2-0 in the shootout you are not supposed to lose if your goalie is as good as advertised. he needed one stop 3 times to end the game and failed each of those 3 times.

  212. Mike D says:

    Your pettiness may have sunk to a new low…if that’s even possible. I shutter to think how pitiful your life must be.

    – Honestly yours

  213. observer says:

    They used Reimer tonight and Kessell scored TWICE Seguin scored nothing.

  214. LA Loyalist says:

    Last 10 games – a sample (not counting tonight).

    Philly: 7-3-0

    Tampa: 8-2-0

    Buffalo: 7-2-1

    New Jersey: 8-1-1

    Montreal: 5-3-2



  215. SuperYogurt says:

    We’ve seen so many forwards go down this year in terms of production when paired with Gomez. You’d have me believe that linemates don’t play a SIGNIFICANT factor on a player’s statistics? Give me a break. I never said Eller’s production would soar, don’t go putting words in my mouth. I believe Eller poor production is caused by non-scoring linemates, low ice-time, and the adjustment curve associated with a change in position. Your argument is that Eller should be able to play with a “sprinkler and a fire-hydrant” and be equally proficient at all forward positions. So you think Gionta should be able to centre effectively? You think DD would be great on the wing? I doubt that you do…

    From the games I’ve seen, Eller is actually fairly strong on the puck, and Martin has complimented his defensive play. He’s also makes good passes, but when you’re passing to Moen and Pyatt, what do you expect to happen?

    Let’s agree to disagree. I’ve made my points, and you’ve decided to devolve into calling me names like “yogie,” I doubt that there’s more to be said. We’ll see how Eller develops in the future.

  216. shootdapuck says:

    Pyatt in a shootout you must be joking!

    Who is choosing this the FANS? like the 3 stars?


    “I only like to watch and takes notes” JM

  217. jrshabs1 says:

    Once again with the riddles. Is #11 not a valid point? I guess in loonytoonville where you and your rabbit hole reside #11 is a moot point. Or, you are quite happy with #11’s point production and overall play. Poor Lars, #1 on bugs hit list. I need an explanation on #11’s or my credibility. Plain English only please.


    Go Habs Go!!

  218. Bugs says:

    …one save away from the division lead with a two goal cushion in the shoot-out…gone


    I need a moment.

  219. Rainrocket16 says:

    Buffalo already getting away with BS!!

  220. Nahlsy says:

    Boston is considering calling up Kaberle from their farm team in Toronto. When exactly did the Leafs become Boston’s private farm system though? Didn’t they used to be an NHL franchise of their own? I could have sworn I heard that somewhere.

  221. Nahlsy says:

    Actually putting one of your shots on the net in the last 6 or 7 rounds of a shoot out are over-rated apparently.

  222. JIMVINNY says:

    They blew two two-goal leads in this game.  Nice.

  223. observer says:

    3 times Price needed ONE stop to end the game THREE times he failed!

  224. fbkj says:

    bruins lose, we get a point, shootout is anyones guess, sure it hurts to lose the other point but its either or… and were still without more than half our d core, anyone feeling bad tonight, is to be honest, in need of another list of worst players ever for the habs…

    this game was hard to swallow naturally, but tonight as a whole, ill take it…

  225. Timo says:

    Of course, noone from the overpaid “talented” crew could win a game a shootout. That’d be too much to ask.

  226. Bugs says:

    Sorry, Jr, I stopped reading after “#11″. Credibility gone.

    Forgive me.

  227. Displaced says:

    I didn’t suggest or mean to that their agents could ask for similar money

    Who’s leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  228. fbkj says:

    whatever, it was free hat night and i didnt go

  229. fbkj says:

    also does pouliot know another move?

  230. SeriousFan09 says:

    What, no Ducks game tonight?


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  231. olematelot says:

    You are one sad individual

  232. LA Loyalist says:

    Have you ever had a Danish sandwich? Man, they don’t even put the top on it.

    However they have this stuff called Aquavit that will just about kill you, that’s how good it is.

  233. Thomas says:

    Hey, i’m missing the game…how is Nash doing?

  234. Seps says:

    If somebody told you at the start of the year that the Habs would be without 4 of their top 6 six defensemen but would be in 5th place in the conference at this time in the year what would you have said?

  235. Laramy87 says:

    Wow as if we have only two defenceman playing in this game that were in our opening day roster.


  236. LA Loyalist says:

    Why is Brian Burke posting here under an alias?

  237. shiram says:

    Also to note, any players put on waivers by any other team than the Habs, would definately benefit the Habs immediately, if they were aquired.



  238. punkster says:

    Um, uhhhh….Bugs, these 3 were on the consent form you signed when you registered on HI/O.


  239. Mattyleg says:

    You’ve forgotten one:

    4) Whoever is available for a trade (imagined or real) is significantly better than anyone on our team, and the management will use this as yet another opportunity to destroy the Habs by not signing them.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  240. mbplekfan says:

    Agreed. We will trade Spacek and AK to vancouver for Kesler and Burrows.

    We will also trade hamrlik to st louis for Pietrangelo.

  241. TomNickle says:

    Absolutely, I would have loved Versteeg, Beauchemin and Voros.  All three of em.  Voros and Versteeg would get Gomez going in the right direction and Beauchemin is an immediate replacement for Markov……AND GORGES.

  242. Bugs says:

    Before we delve any further into the trade talk, we should all agree on some crucial points:

    1) we should be able to get some top-tier talent in exchange for our dregs.

    2) we should overpay drastically and/or yard-sell an asset for a player who’s no better than one we already got.

    And 3) any and all players traded to a team not our own woulda looked GREAT with us and are prime examples of why our management core absolutely sucks for not gettin’em.

    I think we should all agree on this before we proceed, no?

  243. G-Man says:

    Sorry, but Carey tonight was anything but phenomenal. Might have been a good night to start Auld.

  244. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    It’s always best to compose your thoughts whilst working your way through a six pack of La Fin du Monde, so here goes…

    First and foremost, this is the best comment I’ve read on here, ever: 

    Boston is considering calling up Kaberle from their farm team in Toronto.

    Secondly, for a team with three, and in this game four, of its regular defencemen out of the lineup it’s awfully hard to criticize their play. Kudos to the defence core from me. Which I’m sure will inspire them greatly.

    Thirdly, Carey is f%#kin’ phenomenal.

    Fourthly (it’s a word now), we’re stuck with Gomez whether we like it or not. Nothing else to be said about it.

    Finally, I don’t care what we get for him, get rid of AK46. He’s had plenty of chances, has the odd good streak if you put him with the best players on the team, but essentially is not going to work out on this team. Might be successful elsewhere, all the best  yadda, yadda. But let’s face it folks, the guy is not going to work out here. So let us cut our losses get a draft pick or whatever else someone is willing to give us, unload some salary and find a player that fits with this team. That’s the key for the Habs’ success. Buying in.

    If they don’t buy in, ship ‘em out or fire Martin and rebuild around a new core. But given the conference final last year, and our fight for the division title despite losing all the players we’ve lost, I’m inclined to stick with the former.

    Cheers from Calgary y’all! (See you Sunday!) 

  245. G-Man says:

    DD plays against the 3rd and 4th lines of the opposition: Gomez plays against the #1 and 2 lines, so chill. DD is not that good and Gomez is not that bad.

  246. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Buffalo has speed and SIZE

    DD looked great out there


    I know, I know, you can have smaller players complemented by those with size. Just looked funny reading those one after the other.

  247. habitat says:

    Wake up call for Gauthier, Buffalo has speed and SIZE. Same with Philly, Boston, and Tampa Bay. Bench Gomez, DD looked great out there. I wonder who the rookie is Gomez or DD. DD plays with heart. Martin F up tonite with the shoot out. Gomez is not able to score in regulation, so martin puts him in the shoot out, well that is just perfect. What an idiot martin has become. Pleks, DD, and Max Pax score frequently. How Gomez is placed for before MaxPax in the shoot out is just nuts. JM needs an enema to make his brain work.

  248. avatar_58 says:

    Let’s not forget his age in this equation. Carey is our star, no question

  249. RGM says:

    I’m optimistic that he’ll hit 40.

    Go Habs Go!

  250. savethepuck says:

    The team needs him to win more than only 10 games in our last 25, and if he plays 20, what would make you think he will only win half his starts, he’s won a lot more than half his starts up til now.

  251. Hobie Hansen says:

    Wins for goalies have been padded since games that used to end in a tie can now be won via the shootout…am I worng?

  252. Jordio-oh says:

    The habs have 25 games left and Carey Price sits at 27 wins. Now lets say Carey starts the last 20 games (putting him at 69 starts on the season)  and he wins half of those starts he will finish the year with 37 wins.

    If he finishes with 37 wins that will be the most wins by a Habs goaltender in a single season since Dryden got 37 wins in 1977-78. Roy got 36 wins in 1991-92. The 41 wins Dryden got in 76-77 seems out of reach to me (although not impossible).

    Do you think its reasonable to suggest Carey can finish with 37 wins?

  253. Gormdog says:

    1. Guy Boucher (heh)

    2. We’d need to get him inside a club with Tommy K and a bottle of tequila to be sure.

    3. His resume looks a whole lot like JM’s in a weird kinda way. I realize this is not an answer.

    4. D’agostini and his fast start.

    5. DD coming into his own as a third line role. Matchups favor him this way, gives him a bit more time. Plus he is developing chemistry with Pouliot. Plus Darche is back so adds another dimension to the line. Plus Gomez would be pretty pissed off…. Seems as good a reason as any?

  254. RGM says:

    1. Trevor Timmins!

    2. Hopefully he can be Nash 1.0.

    3. The latter. He’s an institution based on his longevity but he’s really never been more than just good enough to not get fired.

    4. Carey Price

    5. I think that he needs to play with players of similar calibre. Whether you want to classify it as lines 2A and 2B or whatever, that’s good by me. But he’ll be much more productive if he’s playing with Kostitsyn & Pouliot than if he’s playing with Pyatt & Darche, if you catch my drift.

    Go Habs Go!

  255. GrimJim says:

    1. Someone with scouting/player development. DD, Nash are undrafted players signed by Mtl. Weber PK, White second or third round picks, MaxPac is a 1st rounder. Yes, not every choice is coming up golden but someone in there is spotting talent

    2. Maybe/Maybe Not. He’s also three years younger than OB. I think the biggest thing for “the demise of” OB was he got stuck behind MArkov Hammer, Spacek, PK, Gorges and Gill. And then he couldn’t deliver the offensive threat that wiz or weber could, and there was NAsh and CArle in Ham getting ready to push him 

    3. Good coach that gets teams to play above themselves but rely on a superstar goalie to the point of burn-out (may be a cautionary tale…)

    4. PK

    5. Sort of, I think putting consistent credible scoring threats on Gomez’s line and rolling three lines may help. If the defense has to split itself to cover three scoring lines instead of two, or concentrate on Pleks and DD and leave Gomez alone , it will help the whole team.

  256. savethepuck says:

    1. Management

    2. Nothing to base an opinion on

    3. He’s done well to consistently have competitive teams in a relatively small market.

    4. Carey Price

    5. No. I think he is a veteran who will elevate his game down the stretch and in the play-offs

  257. HabFanSince72 says:

    1. Timmins. He just needs to stop picking American defencemen.

    2. Talk about faint praise!

    3. Ruff is no Jacques Lemaire – let’s leave it at that.

    4. Guillaume Latendresse.

    5. Trade him to Toronto.

  258. savethepuck says:

    1. Management

    2. Nothing to base an opinion on

    3. He’s done well to consistently have competitive teams in a relatively small market.

    4. Carey Price

    5. No. I think he is a veteran who will elevate his game down the stretch and in the play-offs

  259. Admiral_Adama says:

    #4 would hafta go to Thomas Plekanec.

  260. newbrunswick troy says:

    1-Management- cant always please us- but this years record is good considering….

    2-Nash is worth having alook at for sure—Picard and Webber have no muscle!!

        Oh and according to Bulldogs last 10 games–its for sure the East coast team (Cincinatti??)

    3-Ruff is a great coach but is either getting tired or G.M has faltered with putting it together??


    5-Gomez stay in top lines- he has been getting points of late (assists) and should handle the pressure at 7.5mil

  261. SmartDog says:


    1. Enough criticism! No matter what you think of the Habs current situation, contracts, injuries, size… ONE MAJOR THING IS BETTER now than it’s been since I can remember: our group of rookies and call-ups, without which we’d be talking lottery picks instead of playoffs this year. Which one man deserves the most credit for this? 

    2. Is Nash O’Byrne 2.0?  (With Nash called up, who the hecks is left in Hamilton?) 

    3. Lindsey Ruff: brilliant coach who always manages to ice a good team no matter what he’s working with OR good (but not great) coach who knows how to make a decent team but has consistantly failed to make a splash in the playoffs despite having one of the best goalies in the league.

    4. MaxPac is the best homegrown Hab since ____________ ?

    5. This is a Gomez question but it is NOT a criticism. Gomez is at least making the right noises about doing what the team needs – and he had a great assist on the Desharnai goal last game. So.. would it be wise for Martin to make him the 3rd line center, giving him more space, less attention?   Could that spark him, and give the Desi line their due as some have suggested? 



  262. Habitall says:

    Fair comment. I’d only be interested in him if he could play like a power forward.

  263. Hobie Hansen says:

    I see where you’re coming from. Believe me, I’d love for the Habs to get that power forward eveyone is always talking about! Pacioretty is a good start and we have to be happy with him so far…to be optimistic for a change!~ 

  264. LA Loyalist says:

    what do you think our odds are on Yemelin?

  265. 24moreCups says:

    I really hope we can get Yemelin over here next season.

  266. T-roy West says:

    I agree the team won’t be fixed by getting Penner and/or Philips but I strongly disagree with the wait until next year bit. There are players we can pick up that would help us take a serious run and I think they can be had.

  267. JohnBellyful says:

    Given the rate of attrition among Hab blueliners could someone good with numbers extrapolate how soon the team will be down to no defenceman. I’m thinking Eller just might get back in the lineup sooner than we think.

  268. Habnofear says:

    Sounds like yer saying if The habs ain’t gonna try they should t a n k?

  269. SeriousFan09 says:

    This team needs something resembling their defensive core they were supposed to have this year. Markov gone, Gorges gone, Hal Gill out, Spacek out (who’d have thought we’d miss him?)…

    This team won’t be fixed by getting Chris Phillips or Dustin Penner. Need to wait to next year, build up Nash, get Yemelin over here with a healthy #79 and #26.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  270. TomNickle says:

    Robert.  I’ll say this as respectfully as I can.  This game isn’t played on paper, it’s played on the ice.  If the Habs lost to every team against whom they were physically outmatched, they wouldn’t have nearly the amount of wins, series wins and cup wins as they do.

    While you see the flashy goal scoring, big bodies and deep roster.  It’s just as easy for me to say that we have an edge in special teams, goaltending and coaching.  Consider for a moment that the Flyers have scored only 31 more goals than the Habs this season(less than a goal per game) and have given up only four less against.

    A series between these two if played again wouldn’t be nearly the cakewalk for the Flyers that you make it out to be.  Also consider that last season when they met in the playoffs the team was in its first playoff under Jacques Martin and got pitiful goaltending from Halak while not managing to score on their own.  I wouldn’t count on 3 shutouts in 5 games from Bobrovsky in a playoff series like they got last season from Leighton.

    So to sum up my point of view.  The Eastern Conference doesn’t have a large class of elite teams like the Western Conference, and while the Flyers are playing very well and have a deep team, they are certainly beatable by a team with the Habs’ skill set and style of play.

  271. punkster says:

    I wonder if anyone  has considered that the reason we have scouts scouting Atlanta is that we have to play them twice more, that they beat us the first 2 times, that they’re in the same conference and that we could end up battling for a playoff spot or meeting them in the playoffs? Of course a trade is always a possibility but given Habs management history “THE TRADE” (TT ™), if one develops, will likely come out of left field and catch everyone by surprise.


  272. TomNickle says:

    Why make the trip when you can pop in a dvd?

  273. punkster says:

    Of course and why make the trip at all then?

    I love this place when the trade suggestions start to roll. Madness prevails!


  274. SeriousFan09 says:

    Flyers can manhandle us Tom, we’re not in their class right now. I hate them, but they’re better than we are and we can’t change that with a few rental players.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  275. SeriousFan09 says:

    Habs don’t have a Pavel Datsyuk or a Henrik Zetterberg. That’s no offence to Pleks but those two are unquestionable star players with impeccable two-way ability. Franzen’s one of the biggest playoff performers in the NHL. Their blue line is pretty damn solid and led by one of the greatest defencemen the league has seen and probably ever will see. Flyers just have ridiculous offensive and defensive depth. They don’t even need to goon us anymore, they just have us beat with a defence we have trouble cracking and an offence that’s Top-9, not the sometimes Top-6 we feature. Canucks feature again, better offensive depth and if their D gets back to reasonable health (no one is ruled out for the season), no one Norris-quality but a strong group that can run solid defence by committee.

    I love the Habs Tom but they’re not in the Cup contender group yet. It doesn’t make sense to swing for it when we can wait and let the farm produce the quality that will bring us there instead of selling it for rentals.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  276. TomNickle says:

    There’s a difference between having the scoring and having the threat of scoring.

    With Plekanec, Gomez, Gionta, Kostitsyn, Pouliot, Desharnais, Eller, Cammalleri and Pacioretty the threat of scoring is there.  The threat of offensive skill obviously doesn’t equate to four goals per game but it’s not unreasonable to think that a nine player group like that can be very effective offensively.  I think we’ve all seen that the commitment this group has to team defense can make them a difficult team to beat, especially in a 7 game series when scoring droughts equal monstrous frustration for the opposition.

    My point here is that when you’re in the Eastern Conference, the potential for a Cup run with a group like this is always going to be there.  There isn’t a team that this group can’t beat in a playoff series.

  277. SeriousFan09 says:

    Yes but the team ran out of gas when they ran into Philly and this time around we’re missing Josh Gorges and Andrei Markov from the start of the post-season. The Canadiens do not have the depth to endure a 4-round playoff round ATM from what I can read off the quality of our roster. We lack strong secondary scoring and our defensive depth is weak. I’d like to think Carey Price can turn on God mode for the post-season but we can’t bet the farm on that.



    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  278. Displaced says:

    Yikes – as frustrating as AK can be, trading him as an RFA for Jovo – an UFA – is a move a team makes to win a Cup.  Don’t rent a player to win a first or second round series. 

    Fisher and Versteeg fetched first round picks.  AK is a young, talented, RFA — and IMPORTANTLY – his brother was a success story for Nashville.  I’m not pointing out the blood lineage.  That’s a comment that the right egotistical team could expect similarly spectacular performance improvements giving him ice time, PP time, and a more aggressive system.  If you’re are going to trade long term (based on age and contract) assets, this team must get long term assets back. 

    Giving up a second for Wiz was a stop gap to replace Markov and add a middle-aged veteran to a D that had lots of age and lots of youth. 

    Who’s leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?

  279. TomNickle says:

    Haha.  Nobody here knows, presumably.  It’s just as silly to say a trade is inevitable because we had people there as it is to say that being in the bulding was for the purpose of getting an edge for the next game(s).

    I wouldn’t call a trade inevitable but who knows.

  280. TomNickle says:

    Washington was unbeatable last year, so was Pittsburgh.  See my point?


  281. TomNickle says:

    Regarding Wisniewski.  Subban was having issues with confidence around that time and adding him gave the team the offense from the back they were lacking with Markov out and Subban at war with his mind.  It’s worth noting that the team still had Spacek, Hamrlik Gill, Subban, Picard and Weber at the time of Wisniewski’s arrival and I highly doubt that the move was just to make the playoffs considering that the challenge isn’t monumental with Ottawa, Toronto and Buffalo struggling while teams like Carolina and Atlanta are no better than the Habs when Wisniewski isn’t in the lineup.  This team was playoff bound without Wisniewski in my opinion based on the weakness of the conference.

    Is there a specific reason I can’t measure the Habs against the Wings, Flyers or Canucks?  If the game were played on paper it would be over before it started.  But I could remind you that the Habs got hosed, in Detroit, in a game they could have won.  The shutout the Canucks and while they’ve struggled with the Flyers, the sea-saw battle that goes back and forth between the Habs and Bruins shows us that trends are made to be broken and that if one team has another team’s number for a longer than normal period, the tide usually turns in a big way at some point.  

    In the Eastern Conference, anybody can make the Finals, and it doesn’t take a miracle to be the last man standing of the 15 in the conference.

  282. mbplekfan says:

    Wiz was brought in because PG liked his game and we needed help at that position, not for a cup run. We are weak at D and vulnerable to big, physical teams. Philly added a scorer and looks to be unbeatable.

    PG is likely hoping to draw a good first round opponent and win a series and make the Molsons some money.

  283. punkster says:

    This could turn into a silly round and round Tom.

    Me – What can be done in person that can’t be done via telephone, email, chat, etc?

    You – If you’re going to do a deal you do it in person

    Me- Did Burke go in person to Philly or Anaheim?

    You – We’re not talking about Burke, we’re talking about a credible organization, the Habs.

    LOL…Not the point really. Just want to know why a trip to Atlanta ensures a trade is underway? It doesn’t. Of course, now that I have voiced it a trade is bound to happen haha.


  284. TomNickle says:

    To speak in person.

  285. SeriousFan09 says:

    Adding Wisniewski was to ensure the team stayed in the playoff race and remained competitive (while robbing the NYI) and besides it gave the team an option of examining a young defencemen they could keep long term. PG has to do some things to keep the team in the playoffs but he shouldn’t feel beholden to extend their run a little longer by throwing the farm.

    You can’t measure the Canadiens roster against the Red Wings, Flyers or Canucks (if their blue line heals) and say we’re an even match with the True Contenders. I know everyone has the mentality of ‘anything can happen but as HardHabits belabours, only Top 5 teams take the Cup really.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  286. TomNickle says:

    Logic says that the general manager disagrees with you, in terms of the Cup winning mentality.  Adding Wisniewski for two draft picks is an indication the he feels this team has the mental makeup and ability to make a run.  Otherwise, why make that trade?

    I wouldn’t want to give up a lot for either player.  But if Doan or Jovanovski can be had for Kostitsyn or a small package of prospects who aren’t of the blue chip variety I would be for it.

    They did trade Wolski for Roszival.  So they can be had.

  287. SeriousFan09 says:

    Jovanovski’s still an older D (which we have enough of) and a likely expensive rental. Doan the same for expense, he’s the captain of the Coyotes and he was huge for them in their playoff round with DET before he got injured, they’ll want him for next time. Also, this is not a Cup Year IMO, even landing both of them (and that would beat up the farm badly) wouldn’t guarantee much.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  288. TomNickle says:

    Normally the playoff picture would mean that those players are untouchable.  However, there is a very real chance that Phoenix is going to be relocating this summer or the following one.  I don’t find it a coincidence that Quebec City is going to build an NHL arena weeks after Bettman announced that the ownership situation in Phoenix is no different than what it’s been since they took control.  Jovanovski will be a free agent at season’s end and Doan only has one year remaining on his contract.  Playing with his cousin and doing so in a big hockey market could be appealing for him.

  289. Gormdog says:

    I’d LOVE to have Hackett as a backup right now, though.


  290. avatar_58 says:

    Technically ALL stats are meaningless considering how often the game changes.

  291. Jordio-oh says:

    You are correct. But it doesn’t seem to discourage the record books from claiming that Brodeur has the most single seasons wins at 48, in 2006-07.

    It’s just interesting to look at total win stats and be thankful we don’t have to watch our net be split up between Hackett, Moog, Thibault, etc.

  292. Habitall says:

    What do you guys think it would take to get Rene Bourque from Calgary?

    6’2″, 28 yrs old, plays with a bit of an edge, can score (though not as much as earlier in the season), speaks the language … Thoughts?

    I mean, Calgary’s doing well lately — maybe they could take AK46 and we could make it interesting.

  293. Bugs says:

    Something slipped into his drink, a pair of inconspicuous strong arms, a waiting van revving in the alley, and three intense weeks of brainwashing.

  294. TomNickle says:

    An act of God.

  295. Hobie Hansen says:

    Bourque used to play with a bit of an edge. Now that he’s one more concussion away from being out of the game he’s not what used to be.

  296. JIMVINNY says:

    He disappears for longer stretches than Ak does.  No thanks.

  297. habs03 says:

    They signed him to a 6 year deal this summer, don’t see him being moved unless its an overpayment, so they would ask for Eller and a roster player, maybe Pouliot so u see where this is going. 

  298. gmd says:

    Leafs dealing again picking up Aron Varos from the Ducks for a conditional 7th round pick

  299. Top Corner says:

    IF he clears waivers , he’s a gritty guy….could be snubbed

  300. Gormdog says:

    “How DARE you short change Price?!?”

  301. Jordio-oh says:

    Nothing makes me think he will only win half his starts. It was a conservative estimate to prevent an overreaction from the commentariat………

    ….perhaps i shouldn’t have done that?

  302. SeriousFan09 says:

    Set aside your Dustin Byfuglien dreams, reports out of Atlanta have him signing a multi-year contract extension, looks like a 5-year deal.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  303. RJB says:

    26 million over 5

    “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.” – Bilbo Baggins

  304. Mike D says:

    That’s too bad. I know we were never in the running for him (or even trying from what I understand), but talk about the PERFECT player we could use right now….and an excellent player in general.

    – Honestly yours

  305. Danno says:

    If Toronto beats Boston tonight and we beat Buffalo, we will be in third place.

    Go Leafs Go!

    Ohhhhhh. That doesn’t feel right…..


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  306. Fansincebirth says:

    Go wash your mouth out Danno…nah, yer good.

    Go Laffs Go!!

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  307. HabFanSince72 says:

    The Leafs are in free fall.

  308. JohnBellyful says:

    Slumming with Leaf fans makes you appreciate just how fortunate you are to cheer for the Habs.

    We will, however, expect a penitential post tomorrow. And an outright admission of insanity if the Leafs should screw up and waste your beneficent gesture of support.

  309. shiram says:

    Not only that, but the more the Loafs win, the worst the pick they give to the Broonz.

    So tonight is doubly important the Leafs win it.

  310. Chuck says:

    Go have a hot shower, and scrub hard… really, really hard.

  311. fbkj says:

    lol its okay there have been a few games this season in which saying go leafs go is totally acceptable

  312. SuperYogurt says:

    Boston yes, Philly no.

  313. T-roy West says:

    Before I explain how I would get them, please answer the question. Could they compete or not?

  314. andrewberkshire says:

    Montreal would beat Boston in the playoffs even if they made zero moves. As it stands right now, even with Markov and Gorges done for the year this team is easily a second round team, maybe even better.

  315. SeriousFan09 says:

    Pray tell what do we pay for them? Those teams aren’t going to settle for the Andrei Kostitsyns and Jaro Spaceks, they’ll want a lot for those guys.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  316. T-roy West says:

    If we were able to acquire Chris Stewart from Colorado and one of either Cody Franson or Zack Bogosian then do you think we could hang with Boston or Philly? I do.

  317. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’m not saying throw the playoffs, get our kids some playoff games and experience but don’t throw away picks and prospects, this isn’t a year for a big run.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  318. habstrinifan says:


  319. nick says:

    Take it easy on the kid.

    It’s his first NHL season, playing top line minutes at a position he’s not used to.

    He was doing alright when he was playing third , fourth line minutes… and simply isn’t doing so well with first, and second line minutes. Pacioretty had the same problem last year and he turned out ok.

    The thing people need to realize is that Halak wasn’t traded for 2 players who were going to light it up out of the gate. He was traded for two young kids and it’s going to take a couple years for them to develop.

  320. Mattyleg says:

    I disagree, lots of people thought he was ready after having played well in the AHL last year.

    Now we know better. Hopefully he’ll have a MaxPac moment, then we’ll be laughing.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  321. matraque says:

    Finally… Eller will sit and will probably end up in Hamilton when Cammy is ready.

    If Eller was not the center piece of the Halak trade… he would have never played in the NHL this season.


    Canadien en 5! Never go Full Retard

  322. HABSsince92 says:

    So does anubody find it strange and laughable that TSN has the Blackhawks ranked 6th in their latest power rankings yet they sit in 11th place and out of the playoffs in the West?


    Been a Habs fan since I was in 2nd grade and sat behind Patrick Roy at the Aud.

  323. TomNickle says:

    Yes.  And Stan Bowman should win the award for worst executive of the year.  Trading Ladd and Byfuglien were good ideas.

  324. Exit716 says:

    Shane Willis has a bit of a partying problem…I don’t think Montreal would be the best environment for him.


  325. JohnBellyful says:

    There’s been a Larry Carriere sighting!? And here I thought it was one of those urban legends.

  326. SeriousFan09 says:

    Coyotes are in the playoff hunt, they’re not giving up core players like Doan and Jovanovski IMO. Setoguchi… he might be in the cards if teams are looking to switch underperformers.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  327. TomNickle says:

    If there’s a single defenseman that the Predators are willing to trade it’s Shane O’Brien.  Not sure why David Poile would want to get rid of a gritty defenseman in the middle of a playoff seeking stretch run though.  Buyer beware!

    At forward, I could see J.P. Dumont being somebody Pierre Gauthier would want but he’s under contract for another season beyond this one and is fairly expensive for a player of his production level.

    The funniest thing about Larry Carriere being in Nashville this week to take in their games is that in their next three games the Predators play teams that Montreal could easily trade with.  Granted Vancouver needs all of their defensemen now that Alberts is hurt but San Jose is very likely looking for scoring help(Andrei Kostitsyn) and Phoenix is looking for the same.  Based on what the Habs need or are looking for, I would say that Phoenix and San Jose could be the teams Larry Carriere is in Nashville to look at, and not necessarily the Predators.

    I personally wouldn’t mind seeing Setoguchi, Doan, Jovanovski or Huskins suiting up for the Habs down the stretch.



  328. J_P says:

    Very true.  Unreal that it’s actually best for the competitive balance in the eastern conference that the laughs go on a run and finish 9th in the east.  As much as I love laughing at the leafs, we actually need them to step it up. 

  329. RGM says:

    In fairness, I’m a homer. LOL

    Go Habs Go!

  330. savethepuck says:

    I am embarrassed I didn’t think of Carey Price for #4. Good answer

  331. Bugs says:

    It’s good to remind folk of our doctrines, is all.

  332. Bugs says:

    Also implied in #3.

  333. Bugs says:

    That’s implied in #3, but ok.

  334. 24moreCups says:

    Always liked SK74, he was one of my favorites on the team, too bad it just didn’t work out for him here in Montreal I’m glad he’s doing good now.

  335. Jonson says:

    how sick was the sk74 goal against detroit the other day!!!!?

  336. jimmy shaker says:

    He just got scratched for tonights game because of general overall scaredness and the fact he dropped a deuce in his pants during practice, so his uni won’t be ready as well.



  337. alestar says:

    It would be almost worth watching to see Komi hide from Lucic all game…


    XXIV…and counting

  338. Wayne says:

    What media hate? If you’re referring to the link posted in an earlier entry here at HIO, I didn’t see anything of the sort. Sure, they rode a story that makes news ie: Subban and Lupul,.. he didn’t wait for the helmet, yadada. Don’t blame TSN, blame Cherry and Richards. If you checked out the video panel, ex-Leaf/Hab Mike Johnson, with the exception of the helmet thing, had nothing but praise for Subban. Look, I’m not directing this at you and don’t mean to disrespect you, I’m just getting fed up with certain Hab fans feeling their team is being  victimized by media. Sure, Toronto CBC is going to slant the Leafs, why not? Just as RDS slants on the Habs. I could go on here but it’ll get political and messy… yeah, I’m pissed off today.

  339. newbrunswick troy says:

    just read the latest media hate on for P.K …i,m sure that its all based on the Toronto media wanting to make any knocks they can on the Habs to try and equal up all the negativity around the Leafs

    Fact is simple …P.k is one of the best rookies in this league and although he does have some learning to do- He brings effort and desire and a little flair that certainly is welcomed by me!!!

  340. LA Loyalist says:

    nice Cowboy Junkies reference.


  341. Danno says:

    How delightful it will be however if the scenario comes into being. That way we can tell Leaf Fans how much we thank them for beating the Bruins and helping us to secure third place. That will be sweet.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  342. JohnBellyful says:

    As well you should. And if you ever, EVER come out in support of a Bruin win or a Flyer victory, you’d have to look up to see the bottom of a guttersnipe’s sole. And the stench …

  343. Danno says:

    Cheap is how I feel…


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  344. OneTimer says:

    They should just play it out, who knows, they might surprise people again

  345. SeriousFan09 says:

    Why is Bowman on the hook for Dale Tallon’s terrible contract given to Campbell and his not remembering the day to send out qualifying offers to RFAs? He made the best of a bad situation. Patrick Sharp is one of a few  who’s kept their post-season hopes alive for much of the season.


    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  346. andrewberkshire says:

    Worst executive of the year? That’s a stretch considering how tied his hands were.

  347. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    I bet you Pyatt was the most surprised guy on the bench. I think we should’ve given Nash a shot instead. Both of his brothers are pretty good at putting it in the net.

  348. JohnBellyful says:

    Pyatt? We used Pyatt? Well, he is a defensive whiz so by stopping the goalie from scoring I guess he did his job.

  349. HabFanSince72 says:

    But why would Atlanta trade him? He is a 20 year old with a very bright future.

  350. TomNickle says: reporting that Bogosian would be available if the right deal came along.  That is a player worth adding.  You get to a point where you don’t want to see prospects moved for a player who has a minor impact, but Bogosian is a player who could be a game changer for this team.  Wouldn’t mind being in those sweepstakes.

  351. TomNickle says:

    I don’t know, dollars maybe, they just paid a bunch to Byfuglien, Kane and Pavelec will be up for extensions soon.

  352. thehuds says:

    I need to get one of those hats they gave away tonight. My bro had one similar when he was a kid and cherished it. Just the other day he said he would love to find one. His bday is at the end of the month and it would be a great present for him. If anyone has one they wouldn’t mind letting go, please email me at

  353. 24moreCups says:

    I was wondering if they gave them away because I saw pretty much everyone with one, I think they’re super nice I wanted to get one also!

  354. habs001 says:

    a must win game today..oilers had a terrible game yesterday but i have a bad feeling that thursday will be their game of the year so they will be flying…the outdoor game is hard to predict but the flames are red hot…canucks lost yest and they may go into a small slump before playing us and they will be fired up playing the habs…

  355. rogieshan says:

    They played hard as usual, but Subban, Plekanec and Gionta were showing some fatigue tonight. What state would we be in right now without Desharnais’ line? Gomez and Kostitsyn clearly need help to get out of their funk, so why does Martin insist on using Moen – he of zero offensive karma – as an answer?    

  356. Jonson says:

    it wasnt really montreal falling asleep, its more that buffalo woke, beginning at the end of the first perioud. We were lucky to score that goal out of nowhere. its hard to play when you have so many injuries. BUffalo is a good team, they had a great year last year and are starting to play well. MOntreal hung in there for the big point.
    it was a good game

  357. RC-51 says:

    Team played AWESOME in first period then fell asleep trying to protect a lead. Had more shots in 1st than in the 2nd,3rd and OT combined. Inexcusable!

  358. JIMVINNY says:

    Not great.  They’ve lost 4 in a row, and 6 of 10, all in regulation.  The call-ups are starting to take their toll.

  359. Ian Cobb says:

    I just wonder how the Hamilton farm is doing lately.!  We seem to have more of their players than they have.

    How in the world is Hamilton’s coaching staff dealing with so many call ups.??

  360. habs03 says:

    Should be Jhonas Enroth in nets for the Sabres not Lalime.

  361. habs365 says:

    a weak 2nd period changed the out come of the game for least we got 1 point..besides right now Buffalo is playing good hockey….

  362. SmartDog says:

    Let’s go boys!

    After hearing all the optimism in the room, I’m ooking forward to this one.

  363. RJB says:

    Big Buff extends as per Dregs… details to come

    “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.” – Bilbo Baggins

  364. habs365 says:

    The Sabes are playing pretty good hockey right now and the Habs better be at their best or 2pts to the Sabres…hope not.

  365. deuce6 says:

    This team is crippled on the back end..We need help back there, ASAP..

    —————— Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?

  366. habstrinifan says:

    I know the defense is under pressure now. But I think it would be relieved by that push back forechecking pressur ethat we should have with the proper addition of a forwar dor two. I dont see any wya the Canadiens go deep with our offense. I have more faith in our defense if healthy.

  367. habstrinifan says:

    Team 990 is gonna kill JM on air today for using Pyatt.

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