Game 55: Habs lose, Ottawa three points up

Canadiens defenceman Patrice Brisebois throws a hair-raising check on Toronto’s Darcy Tucker.
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You knew the Toronto Maple Leafs weren’t going to stink out the joint as they did two night ago at home, 8-0 losers to the Florida Panthers.

And you knew the Canadiens knew they were in for a fight, as they always are when their perennial rival comes to visit.

So Montreal now heads to Ottawa for a Saturday date against the Senators, having dropped a 4-2 Bell Centre decision tonight to the not-dead-yet Maple Leafs.

With a victory and a Senators loss at home to Florida, the Canadiens would have taken over top spot in the Eastern Conference. But the Senators won 5-4, and coupled with the Habs loss pull three points ahead of Montreal.

The loss tonight evened the season series at three wins apiece. It was Canadiens goaltender Carey Price’s first defeat against the Maple Leafs, having beaten them the past three meetings this season.

Montreal outshot Toronto 36-28 but ran into Vesa Toskala, a hot goalie who was named first star on the night.

Tomas Plekanec, centring the Canadiens premier line, got the Canadiens on the scoreboard at 11:09, scoring his 20th of the season to equal his output of last season in just his 55th game this year.

Plekanec had a yawning Leafs net to shovel the puck home, fed by Alex Kovalev who deflected an Andrei Markov pass from the blue line, then took a second stab at it through a Toronto defender’s skates to set up his centreman parked at the edge of Toskala’s crease.

Toronto’s Chris Newberry tied it with a one-timed blast past Price at 17:24, fed by teammate Dominic Moore who outmuscled Canadiens defenceman Mark Streit along the boards.

Darcy Tucker, Public Enemy No. 1 on most visiting rinks he plays, was left unattended by Canadiens defenceman Patrice Brisebois at 1:24 of the second period, sneaking in front of Price to take a passout from Matt Stajan to bang in the goal that put the visitors up 2-1.

Kyle Wellwood then stretched the lead to 3-1 at 19:36, banging a rebound past Price on the power play with Sergei Kostitsyn serving a hooking penalty, the Canadiens’ first penalty of the remarkably tame game.

Kovalev brought the Canadiens to within one with a shorthanded goal, on a fine head-man pass from Plekanec at 6:20 of the third after a goal-saving effort by defenceman Josh Gorges, who continues to play well on the Montreal blue line. Plekanec sent the Russian on a breakaway, Kovalev scoring on a nifty backhand deke for his 25th goal of the season.

That gave Kovalev, the night’s second star, three goals and five assists in his last four games.

Tucker then hit the vacated Canadiens net with 29 seconds remaining to round out the scoring.


  1. coutNY says:

    Streit was already back on D…. and Breezer was filling for Hamrlik. That would mean we call-up or try Dandy back?

  2. showey47 says:

    streit is already playing defence with hamrlik out with the flu, i wonder if dandy may play his first game on defence,or rush obyrne back or bring up valentenko

  3. G-Man says:

    The Habs have a hallowed past. Koivu has led the Habs to nowhere. ‘Nuff said.


  4. The Teacher says:

    Yawn, stupid is as stupid does.

    Komi isn’t stupid. That answer your question?

  5. coutNY says:

    Can I get a witness… Amen brother.

  6. G-Man says:

    The old “anonymous source” rumor mill- Ryder is not playing because he and O’Byrne have been traded to Calgary for Tanguay. One of the conditions is that Ryder does not play until the deal is done (when O’Byrne is ready to go).

    Onto tonight. Time for the Habs to lay a beating on the laffs, but it’s always a relatively close game. Should be rough and tumble and a lot of fun to watch. Looking for Higgins to snap out of it.


  7. krob1000 says:

    Will Belak play 3 or 4 minutes tonight???? Will Belak instead eat 3 or 4 steamies at the Bell Center????These are more pertinent questions you should be asking Factface.

  8. habfan53 says:

    Let’s get off this Komi/Belak

    How about Washington last night with 1 win they go from 12th to 3rd.

  9. Ed says:

    Just in from Fan/Team 990, Bouillon will be a game time decision because of an injury to his foot. If he can’t play, Ryder will. I assume Streit will be back on defense. Ryder will only play if Carbonneau has no other options. He is definitely the last option as far as Carbonneau is concerned.

  10. coutNY says:

    …more of antention seeking laff fan!

  11. krob1000 says:

    I never have really piped in on all this Koivu crap before because it is crap but I feel now it has to be done. There is a huge difference between a lack of production due to minimal effort and a lack of production. Koivu brings it every single night (aside from when we found out he had the flu there…only time I thought he looke lethargic). He is gettting tons of chances and setting others up for even more. He has taken some very lazy penalties and others that were penalties that can be attributed to hard work and trying to recover the puck… be it. He needs to be smarter but this in no way changes the fact that this is HIS team.

    It is awesome that Kovalev has stepped up and led on the ice and learned to be a mentor to the Kostitsyn’s,etc. It is great Kovy seems rejuvenated and it is great that they have become our no. 1 line. I am certain,however, that if you asked Kovy who the elader of this team is he would say it is without a doubt Koivu. He may say Koivu needs a smack up side of his head for the hooking penalties but he is still our leader. Has it ocurred to anyone that it is under Koivu’s tenure as captain that Kovalev has finally decide to bring it every night. Maybe a couple seasons of watching a warrior like Koivu (who never takes a night off) battle guys fourty or fifty pounds heavier (and win) even when our team wasn’t playing well has rubbed off. That would be my guess along with the fact that our entire management team embodied the same work ethic as players and do now as coaches.

    There is a new (return of the old) culture back in Montreal and the pride has been restored. Koivu has to be credited for that as well. One can argue he was here for years and nothing happened but he has hadf very few full seasons and NEVER had a supportive management team. The guys we draft and acquire have to be “coachable” and likeable…..we have no headaches (bye Samsonov). Koivu is the liitle engine that could and now he finally did… happy. He is not 27 years old anymore and many of his best years were unfortunately lost to injury but through it all he remained a model of class and the epitomy of an NHL warrior. Koivu is as deserving a captain as we have ever had in Montreal and you guys should never forget that. Especially if it is becasue of a little scoring slump.

  12. Ian G Cobb says:

    Trouble maker!

  13. jew4jah says:

    anyone know what’s up with this week’s puckcast?

  14. coutNY says:

    Yeah that makes sense Belak a 4th line enforcer and Habs 1st pairing Defenseman… maybe if the laffs turnout another 8-0 showing Komi could tune him up, still not worth the risk of breaking his hand on his face.

  15. showey47 says:

    belak? LMAO the guy gets less ice time than the guy who drills the holes for the net after a zamboni flood. Your facts are about as relevent as the food menu at hooters.

  16. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    Why would he fight BELAK?

    BELAK is a trained LETHAL fighter, and although KOMI can match him with strength and probably wrestle him to the ground, you DO NOT WANT TO FIGHT BELAK.

    I’ve seen BELAK go against the toughest in the league and he can go.

    you need a LAROQ or a BRASHER to go BELAK…not KOMI.

    remember were talking about fighting, in all other categories KOMI is SUPERIOR.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  17. habfan53 says:

    I’ll bite and I suppose you think this would be an even trade to

  18. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    I agree with your KOIVU point, and maybe taking time off LATER (when 1st place is secure! or should we be saying a playoff berth!)…The Man is an inpiration and we will not forget that. If I was GM and his wish was to stay a HAB then retire, I’d sign him for life…we are the GREAT CANADIENS and it is our role in the league to set examples….who else will? phoenix?

    we don’t kick our people to the curb like those bloody laffs, and what they did to RICK VIAVE…they CUT HIM during tryouts!… joke of an organization, and they do not retire numbers!..some new punk comes along and wears a great #, thats not how you build history….FOOLS.

    You see most fans don’t know whats coming down the pipe like the list you just spelled out…Gainey can see the big picture, he is no FOOL.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  19. habfan53 says:

    He is waiting for doctor’s OK to play tonight. He’s ready but it will take a couple of games to get his legs back.

  20. Sulemaan says:

    Ok, I think I follow you now HP. You just want players to stick to their game and not try to replicate others (i.e. Kovalev). Fair point.

    I think Koivu is just tired. He’s carried this team on his back for a long time. Also as fans we forget that this guy is a cancer-survivor and nearly lost his eye. If nothing else, I would even give him the odd game off to recharge once we know we will make the playoffs.

    With regards to trades and other stuff, why bother? People are talking about trading for Hossa and I’d rather go with youth and win the cup in 2009 and beyond.

    I’d deal away Ryder, Brisebois, Dandenault and call up the youngsters.

    Prospects such as Fisher, McDonough, Yemelin, Valentenko, Carle, Subban, White, Maxwell, Chipchura, D’Agostini, Halak should stay with the team. We build from within and add on UFA’s and trade when the time is right.

  21. habfan53 says:

    Even with the Cap going up 3 million we will be hard pressed to keep the same team.

    Assuming we trade or don’t sign Ryder that will give Gainey 6 million.

    WE have to sign O’Byrne, Streit, Halak or Huet and Komisarek next year.
    that 6 mill is gone because there are probably a half dozen I have not mentioned.

  22. coutNY says:

    They also have McCabe out… Thats a good thing.

  23. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    when that happened against BOSTON, he was in that ” I HAVE TO MAKE THE TEAM” mode….and boy did he make it.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  24. habsgod says:

    hey my fellow saskatchewanian and hab bro !where in saskatchewan are you located?

  25. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    I’m not saying there is open dissension at all…in fact I really see a BROTHERHOOD and thats what has most impressed me this year.

    but at the inner levels of a players thinking, they have to step on the ice and perform….and the KOVY line is a tough act to follow.

    Maybe thats why KOIVU isn’t on his game, or at times looking disinterested.

    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  26. habfan53 says:

    In regards to Koivu:

    Though I’ve never thought of him as a 1st line center I have great respect and admiration for him.
    It’s true that he is taking a lot of inopertune(?) penalties actually I looked it up he has cut 3 Power Plays short the rest of the team 2.

    I think he may feel a little left behind because of the success of the KPK line and the ineffectiveness of his.

    I would hope that Gainey and Carbonneau would sit down with him and just tell him what he means to the team what they expect from him.
    It worked with Kovalev this summer.

  27. coutNY says:

    Agreed, but Kosti Jr. making it a mission to prove his worthiness sometimes with his open ice hits. Granted I love that he’s making a difference, but sometimes I think his anger might get the better of him… Little Man sindrome. We need him healthy and scoring not throwing fists with the opposing teams meat head… But honestly I would not want to see his play or attitude differ and lose any of the fire which he has brought to Montreal.

  28. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    you know what you do with dangerous wounded animals…..

    I wouldn’t worry about a laff comeback, they don’t have the tools in the tool kit for that, we just need to jump in front…and stay clear of the BOX.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  29. Sulemaan says:

    With all due respect, I don’t buy that theory Habs-Prof. All of the comments from the media and other observers are that Montreal has a tight dressing room this year.

    I think the other players are genuinely happy about the Kovalev line. You don’t climb to the top of the Eastern conference otherwise and credit is due to the coaching staff as well.

  30. krob1000 says:

    This shows him out until Sat. and the Score is geared to gamblers so I’d beleive this one.

  31. The Teacher says:

    Then I can’t help you :)

    I must refer you to Hab-Prof’s delusional conspiracy theory.

    P.S. Did he appeal the ruling?

  32. Sulemaan says:

    Going to be a good game tonight. But we better be ready to play because the Leafs are right now a wounded animal that has been backed into a corner. They are still stinging from the 8-0 loss to Florida.

    If we do happen to get a 3 goal lead, I only hope the Habs don’t go into a defensive shell and keep laying it on.

    I would have thought that Ryder would get the nod tonight as he has had success against the Leafs in the past. I guess Carbo disagrees. Just like Samsonov, if it wasn’t finished before, Ryder’s career as a Hab is over now.

  33. coutNY says:

    The Carolina game was the Jan 31st when the incident occured. They’ve played 2 games against the Senators and Flaorida since the Feb 1st suspention, so I was including all the games even if he was out with injury or awaiting the ruling???

  34. krob1000 says:

    I was more impressed with the cap rising 3 million. This should leave no doubt as to whether or not we go after one of the big names out there.

  35. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    Has it ever crossed your mind that when you have a line thats producing 90% of the points (i know this is foreign to us since the 80’s!) and doing it with class and style, that it actually has an adverse effect on the other players.

    They fell intimidated and insecure in their own play? and start exploring new styles, dekeing when they should be shooting etc…heck even KOSTOP and BEGIN have forgotten to HIT first…notice how they are too good for physical play lately and the want to score a pretty goal!

    the remedy to this is COACHING.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  36. habfan53 says:

    No they did not play. Plus it was an automatic 3 game no ruling

  37. Will Longlade says:

    Yes, but it makes good copy.

  38. The Teacher says:

    It’s all part of life in the NHL, no? The other teams are testing them now.

  39. habfan53 says:

    It’s not likely to happen McCabe in on record SEVERAL times as saying it was a fluke injury. He holds no ill will to Kots. It was just part of the game.

  40. coutNY says:

    Not at the expense of another Kosti Assault. These guys have been lucky they haven’t gotten seriously injuried.

  41. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    well your neck turning theory can only hold true if McCabe can disentangle himself from the back of the net meshing first!
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  42. The Teacher says:

    He could have sat out a game awaiting the ruling, or with an injury, which would have counted as a game served.

  43. habfan53 says:

    With the looking ahead to Saturdays game the Habs will probably be watching the out of town scoreboard as well tonight as the Sens are playing the Panthers in Ottawa.
    If they win and the Canadiens lose to Toronto then Saturday nights game won’t nearly have the impact it will only become a 4 point game.

    Ideally Montreal beats Toronto, Florida beats Ottawa however it’s not likely as the Panthers are riding a season high 3 game win streak.

    Montreal HAS to win tonight for Saturdays game to mean 1st place.

  44. Bill H says:

    Let’s hope the Captain plays great with Latendresse and K2. Some posters claim that Koivu is in a slump. In his last 7 games, he has 6 points. We should have more players in a slump, if that is the case.

    No question Koivu is not playing up to expectations. He currently has 39 pts in 53 games and his +/- is -5. Last year, he had a career high 74 PIM and this year to date he has 73. He has rightly been accused of taking bad penalties at inopportune times.

    Koivu, if anything, has been inconsistent this year. Prior to the last 7 games, he went 5 games without scoring a point in mid January. But before that, he went 11 points in 10 games.

    This team plays much better when Koivu is playing well. Finding him the right linemates is part of the key. Let’s hope he finds some chemistry with Latendresse and K2. The team needs 2 scoring lines with additional scoring support from the role players. When we have that, we are a very difficult team to beat. If we beat the Leafs tonight, and Ottawa on Saturday, we will be 1st in the East. Wow, how long has it been?

  45. coutNY says:

    01-Feb-08: Suspended by the NHL for three games from Game misconduct for Verbal abuse of the Refs. I would assume since Feb. 1 they’ve only played 2 games, he will not be in tonight.

    Myth #1 debunked: Antropov out
    Myth #2 Hickey into the molson ex a bit much Plausable

  46. The Teacher says:

    I’ll take the 2, 5 or game :) And watch Kubina’s neck wear out instead :)

  47. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    What about when he or Belak attacks KOSTYsr?
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  48. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    I don’t have a doubt that we’ll out skate them, actually thats the key to drawing penalties, the team that isn’t skating will be penalized.

    in regards to the conspiracy…ok, I’m “slightly” exaggerating BUT you cannot DENY THAT ‘MONEY’ controls the boardroom…

    when playing the laffs, its always been the REFS that I fear…nothing else, EVER.

    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  49. Ian G Cobb says:

    I think so habsguy and he will continue move people around and in and out of the line up according to the type of opposition that we face on any given night. The philosophy of slow and steady progress makes him a champ. Even the doubters are starting to see his wisdom. Carbo will get us to the cup, not this year but we will be there for years to come. Bob Gainey and this coaching staff is the best management that we have had in montreal in 40 years.

    I don’t have to coach them anymore, i’m just sitting back in retirement and enjoying the show.!!

  50. The Teacher says:

    Is anyone worried that McCabe is back in the line-up? I’m not for one.

    In fact, I think it’ll be quite funny watching him wear out his neck playing against the Pleky line.

  51. habfan53 says:

    That’s what I thought too but according to TSN he is due back tonight.
    He received the suspension after their game against Carolina on the 31st.
    They’ve played 2 games that should leave tonight and he’d be back against Detroit on Saturday.

  52. HAB-PROFESSOR says:


    “It’s been a while,” Carbonneau said when asked when the last time the Canadiens had such an exciting forward unit. “I didn’t get a chance to play with Guy [Lafleur], Steve Shutt and Jacques [Lemaire], but I played with guys who played with them, and that’s the line that comes to my mind.”

    Kovalev, who has 24 goals and 52 points, said he wanted to return this season and have fun after a disappointing year in 2006-07. But the playful Russian refused to get too excited about the recent run.

    “I don’t want to say anything about it because then people might think we’re overconfident,” he said. “I’d like to keep it the way it was at the beginning of the season when not many people were thinking about us. I’d like to keep it that way.”


    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  53. Sask Habs Fan says:

    If he’s distracted maybe we could pry away Brind’Amour. Then maybe we’d win some key face offs….

    Chuck Norris’ calendar goes straight from March 31st to April 2nd; no one fools Chuck Norris.

  54. Lee_D says:

    I’ll be at the game that has the potential for our Habs to take #1 in the eastern conference for the first time since when?

    Can’t. F*cking. Wait.


  55. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    If we stay out of the BOX we will destroy Toronto…SIMPLE.

    OTTawa lost to those laffs because they had 8 penalties and T.O. had ZERO.

    so the leafs played 16 minutes with the man advantage!..thats a bit under their NHL-REF-Toronto-Syndicate average of about 22mins/game.

    yes the laffs usually play about 22mins/game on the powerplay…because of the CORPORATE MONEY CONSPIRACY from BAYst…..just listen to the interview from BETTMAN today, talking about the leafs ownership and their commitment to win at all costs!, including paying off the REFS…

    we need to STAY away from the BOX and the B.Centre fans must let the REFS KNOW when they aren’t calling the game right…THE FANS MUST BE THE 7th PLAYER TONIGHT!


    …this game is more important than the Ottawa game.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  56. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Most people seem to think that this will be an easy win for the Habs. The Leafs were embarrassed Tuesday night and are looking to rebound tonight. Let’s not forget that they always bring their A-game when they play us. I hope the Habs aren’t looking ahead to Ottawa’s game on Saturday and that they come out firing for 60 minutes. Otherwise it could be a painful evening. GO HABS GO!!!!!!

  57. showey47 says:

    antropov still has one game to serve in his suspension

  58. krob1000 says:

    I don’t actually know. I just know he always scares the hell out of me.

  59. bigjames says:

    according to pat hickey column, leafs have 2 guys back who have been out a while: McCabe and Antropov. that may give them some spark. am not taking this one lightly at all.
    kung hei fat choi, happy year of the rat.
    go habs go

  60. showey47 says:

    has he scored on price yet?

  61. nightmare_49 says:

    Trade Deadline : Carolina has been going south slowly all season and their base is quiet old as compared to other teams in the New NHL. Now that Washington has caught them and playing consistant hockey the Canes may be sellers at deadline time as they try to re-tool for the future. Two UFA’s with playoff experience may be available. Cory Stillman (lw/rw) has played well in the playoffs adding a few important goals at the right time though not a defensive stalwart but a gamer. Mike Commodore (d/r) is a big awkward physical “D” man who is not scared to drop the gloves to back up his teammates and is aggressive in front of his own net and has little offensive ability but is a competitor with playoff experiense. Cane’s GM Rutherford has his eye on the laffs gm job , god bless , and may be distracted. Stillman could be here for the short term with the possible chance of signing him to a one year contract and Commodore could be looked at for a year or two till we fill that void that exists while our future “D” men develope and he can replace Breezer next year and add some muscle and knuckles while O’Bryne and Gorges develope with the Habs. “In Bob we Trust”.

  62. habsguy says:

    Thanks Ian…It seems like they’ve bought into Carbo’s game plan and it’s paying off…

  63. krob1000 says:

    I’m more worried about Kaberle…….were the only team he shoots against and he almost always scores.

  64. habsguy says:

    agreed teacher, we wouldn’t to go through the flu like lastyear

  65. showey47 says:

    their size up front should not be much of an issue tonight with the laffs missing antropov,ponikarovski,kilger,bell. But who knows what laff team will show up after the drubbing they took against florida. Keep out of the box and shut down mats and it should be 2 points for us.

  66. southp says:

    My first game at the Bell Centre in years… well, since it’s been called the Bell Centre at least! Can’t wait to watch the Habs take on the Leafs tonight, but I’m a little nervous that the Leafs are coming off such a bad loss. You never know how a team will bounce back.

    The Habs can’t take them too lightly!

  67. TC says:

    I must admit to being a little apprehensive about tonight’s game. To me, it has all the makings of one of those looking ahead games. With the big Saturday night clash in Ottawa for first place in the conference on Saturday it would be easy for the Habs to overlook the sad sack Leafs.

    However, I figure that the Leafs are going to come out pretty strong to start the game, at least. The Leafs always seem to play their best against Montreal and after Tuesday night’s debacle they should respond with some semblance of pride.

    Hopefully, this will be a good bounceback game for Koivu, and maybe give him some confidence for the Saturday night game.


  68. WindsorHab-10 says:

    It’s all about the team. If he feels left behind then the “C” should be taken away from him because as a captain you’re supposed to lead and put the team first.

  69. krob1000 says:

    Smolinski will be gone as well, one of Dandy or Bouillon will be gone and one of Kosto or Begin will be gone as well. We also currently have cap space. BRisebois will also not be resigned. WE have the room….that is why we tried last year and we will continue to try. We also don’t know what will happen next year with Huet. There is no doubt wee are looking but I agree with everyone who doesn’t want to overpay. I think I just disagree with many at what exactly is overpaying for a Hossa or Jokinen,etc. O’ Byrne will make peanuts. Streit will get a raise. Komisarek is signed through next year.

  70. Rugger says:

    There are others that will not be back one way or another. (Dandy, Breezer etc.) How much cap relief will depend I guess on how they go.

  71. coutNY says:

    I just took a peek at the Laffs Official site and their reporting “Bryan McCabe will be a game time decision after practicing the last two days.” more laffs here…

    We already know what Hickey said..

    And RDS Reporting “Defenceman Bryan McCabe should be there.” See last sentence….

  72. bigjames says:

    tks showey47. was just reading hickey’s piece which says

    “Toronto will have defenceman Bryan McCabe for the first time since he suffered a broken hand here Dec. 15, while Nik Antropov returns from a three-game suspension.”

    maybe pat’s been into the molson ex a bit much…

  73. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Seeing how Paul Maurice cried foul the last time we played them and McCabe broke his hand (wrist), I’m just wondering if they plan on going after Andrei Kostitsyn? Anyone with a brain saw the incident as an accident except for Maurice. I’m anxious to see what happens, if anything. GO HABS GO!!!!

  74. Bill H says:

    You make a good point about staying out of the box. I’ll add to that: outskate the Leafs.

    Your corporate money conspiracey theory is a little bit delusional, don’t you think?

  75. coutNY says:

    True, we definately don’t need last year’s strand reeking havek with our good fortune again!

    Here is a non-uplifting Souray story. We can all be thankful that we’re not having to deal with this type adversity this year. read more here…

  76. Chuck says:

    We must be playing the laffs tonight… 200 comments, and it’s still another 5+ hours to faceoff!

    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  77. OldGrover says:

    Still sick and thus being kept away from the team, per the article

  78. habsgod says:

    we will 7-2 tonight the make me laffs will live up to there name laffs!!!

  79. Mr.Hazard says:

    Here it cooommeess.. Here it cooomeess. Here it coooomeees. Here comes their twenty-sixth nervous breakdoowwwn.

    Ex nihilo nihil fit

  80. HotHabs says:

    Amusing quote from a blogger on TSN regarding his Leafs’ performance over the next 2 games (Mtl. then Detroit):

    “These next two games will definitely define the leafs as buyers or sellers.”


    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  81. Ed says:

    According to TSN, if Bouillon can’t play, Dandenault will probably partner with Brisebois.

  82. moser17 says:

    The guys at RDS are advising not to take the Leafs too lightly, and that the Habs have a good chance only if they come out like they did against the Sens.

    “il ne faut pas vendre la peau de l’ours avant de l’avoir tué”

    lol I quite like that expression.

  83. MatttheHabsFan says:

    You just know that later on someone is going to post something like…”If they can win these two games, and put a good run together they could squeak into the playoffs, where they could really make some noise.” Oh Leafs fans….still trying to convince themselves Kaberle is a top 3 D in the league, that Hal Gill was a good signing, oh and don’t forget that Raycroft won Rookie of the Year, so he’s bound to rediscover his form…

    Alex Kovalev ~ “I still have four fingers left”

  84. 24 Cups says:

    I know there are a lot of variables in place but you still have to think that we are going to win tonight. I’ve read all the posts and fully realize that the Lousy Leafs always come up big against us but come on, they’re down for the count and we should take advantage. Some quick thoughts.

    – forgetting the Boullion situation, I still thought that we might have started Ryder tonight. What better chance to snap out of a slump than to play a bottom feeder that has lousy defense and goaltending?

    – having said that, the Lousy Leafs haven’t really been that bad during the last 9 games (excluding Tuesday night). And in fairness, they have had a ton of guys out of the lineup.

    – Raycroft is done. His confidence is totally gone. Toskola isn’t that bad but he can be streaky and doesn’t always cover the net that well. Ferguson could have waited before he gave him a two year extension at $4 mil a year.

    – the 3 big contracts on defense are killing the Laffs. McCabe can be really solid and then he will make a mistake or cough up the puck at the worst possible moment. Shades of ….

    – they do have two good young kids on defense. Colaiacovo is great in both ends but is really injury prone. This Stralman kid shows real potential but he may not dress if McCabe plays. He really move the puck well.

    – Antropov has gone cold after a quick start and I also feel that Sundin is starting to break down a bit with all the pressure (on and off the ice) that he deals with. I have no idea why he wants to finish his career in Toronto.

    – The Laffs gave good money to Tucker, Blake, Bell and Kubins and they have all disappointed. You know, Sean Avery puts on a great show and plays the needler role to perfection. I’m sure he would wink and tell you it’s all part of making a living. But Tucker is a different story. This guy has got a real funny look about him. His facial gestures kinda remind of an old wrestler named Bulldog Browler. We have banned pitbulls in Ontario but I think they missed one.

    – Wellwood, White, and Steen were three young kids that the Lousy Leafs were really counting on to produce this year and for the most part they have been a disappointment. Quite a contrast to our young guys.

    – lastly, the Leafs really fall down when it comes to special teams. They’re brutal. Hopefully, that’s where the Habs will be able to capitalize.

    Five hours until my boys hit the ice and four hours until my corkscrew hits my bottle of Aussie Shiraz. Life is good.

    The Original 24 Cups

  85. 24 Cups says:

    Thanks Ed – my stomach just flipped.

    The Original 24 Cups

  86. nick says:

    Is Hamrlik back or whats the deal with him?

  87. OldGrover says:

    Enh, to be fair, Kaberle is a Top-3 D-man pretty much anywhere in the league. I’d be happy to see him next to Hamrlik on our second d-pairing and on our powerplay.

    Raycroft and Gill on the other hand, I wouldn’t touch those two with a bargepole.

  88. The Teacher says:

    Haha! Good observation. The Fact-Rattler is also nowhere to be found.

    If god forbid we lose. We’ll be sure to see him quite often tomorrow.

    Our Top Ten excuses for why the Habs win against the Leafs for Fact Rattler’s sake!

    1) The Habs got favourable refereeing, COMEON can’t you see it!!!!!!!!
    2) The Habs were lucky because we played the Sens last game and got used to a higher level of competition!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    3) Because Komisarek brought Elisha to the game and distracted all their players!!!!!!!!!!!
    4) The Sundin rumours ARE JUST TOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    5) The Zamboni guy was bribed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    6) Vesa Toskala got food poisoning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    7) An announcer said that the Habs were a contender and the Leafs felt out-classed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    8) Dandenault ate some onions before the game, and Darcy couldn’t figure out a facial gesture to combat that move!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    9) Global warming melted the ice inside the Habs zone and they couldn’t get any momentum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    10) The NHL REALLY needs to inspect the boards at the Bell Center!!! They are WAAYYY too fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  89. HAB-PROFESSOR says:


    you know I’ve re-browsed alot of the comments here today and (myself included) we are WAY OVER THE TOP on expectations for this tilt. In fact I don’t recall us ever being so confident for a game this year EVER. Positive thinking and energy are good, but Over Confidence leaves you susceptible to failure.

    without making this an essay, let me just point out a few variables that could make tonight a disaster…of course the flip side is if we overcome these then it will be another GLORIOUS evening…not just because we beat a 27th place team……but because it is the LEAFS…our IMMORTAL ENEMY.

    HAMMR is out – always more difficult without his presence, that cannot be denied
    BREEZE is in – always more difficult with his presence, that cannot be denied
    CUBE is out – I consider this equally damaging to having Hamr out.
    RYDER is out – thats 30 goals gone missing
    PRICE is in – sure… come up from the minors into the oven of a rivalry! what a test for the kid, but could flop.
    HIGGS – to the 4th line? bet this won’t last a period, but what happens to the score in the interim.
    KOSTYSR – could be thrown off his game by retributive actions by goons

    and the most dreaded – THE BOUNCE BACK EFFECT – the leafs will be rabid tonight…RABID.

    well its not really that stacked against us, and I bet the leafs list would be 20pages long.

    we will win.

    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  90. Richard B says:

    with Boulion and Hammer out, Ryder still can’t crack the 3rd or 4th line?
    Granted he is not producing as expected, but I am much more hopeful that he will pot one on the 4th line than when Dandy and Kostopolus are out going around.

    How about letting dandy play D and letting ryder play with Higgins on the 3rd or 4th line?

    Give me a break.

  91. G-Man says:

    lmao. Good one!


  92. 24 Cups says:

    Teach – #3 is my favourite. By the way, are you working today:-)

    The Original 24 Cups

  93. The Teacher says:

    No, not working today, did not get booked. Kind of like a mid-week break :)

  94. Richard B says:

    Is boulion Cube? Becasue he is shaped like a block? I don’t know Cube?

  95. habfan53 says:

    It’s because of the OXO bouillon cubes

  96. Chuck says:

    What’s the over/under on the first Sundin high stick?


    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  97. HotHabs says:

    Great Post – hilarious!!!!!

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  98. nightmare_49 says:

    I had to leave Boone’s thread “Market Value”” which is for accountants only , what next for the matinee marvels who are bloging while reading the “Economist”.

  99. moser17 says:

    Love the exclamation marks! :)

  100. HotHabs says:

    I remember being at a game early in Bouillon’s career and hearing some guys shout “La Soupe” from the nose-bleeds. It was pretty funny!!!

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  101. showey47 says:

    11)glen healy is upset because the laffs powerplay has gone limp due to their inactive sticks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  102. HotHabs says:

    Good post. Although it doesn’t really matter what the HIO posters think in the end. The real question is how are the Habs players approaching this one mentally?

    I’ve said it before, if the Habs get a 2+ goal lead, especially early in the game, this one will be a wash. Leafs are fragile and won’t be able to handle the pressure of a comeback at the Bell Centre. However, if Habs don’t get an early lead, this one will be a game to the finish. The longer the Leafs feel they’re in it and have a chance to win, the tougher the game will get for Mtl.

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  103. nightmare_49 says:

    Richard B. – With your logic i suspect next week or so you’ll be saying lets dress Breezer over O’Bryne cuz your more hopeful he’d pot one.

  104. HotHabs says:

    While I’m not a big Ryder fan, it does seem very strange to leave him out of tonight’s tussle when he could contribute. Is he that much of a liability? I don’t think so. Personally, I think a deal is coming down the pipe. We’ll see soon…

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  105. HotHabs says:

    Probably the same odds as the first Koivu hook! :-)

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  106. krob1000 says:

    lol. We are everywhere nightmare….everywhere. Wait until we start our numerology blog……..I knew Ryder was doomed wearing that unholy number 73 and it being the year of the Guinea Pig.

  107. showey47 says:

    same here, its just too odd to have him sit 3 games in a row. If indeed ryder is being shopped gainey would have carbo playing him instead of sitting. I really feel that a deal is close and maybe he is a part of something bigger.

  108. Ed says:

    I love the exclamation marks too. It wouldn’t be the same without them.

  109. Chuck says:

    I though that 73 was the year of the goat. :)


    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  110. moser17 says:

    Like the RDS guy said:
    “il ne faut pas vendre la peau de l’ours avant de l’avoir tué”

  111. Scotty90 says:

    Krob… i think its actually the year of the rat. Speaking of rat… no sign of life from the rattler for a little while. if laffs win tonight we’d better set the traps for tomorrow!

  112. habsgod says:

    hey teach!hahahah nice!are you sure you aren’t him?lol!

  113. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    it will be more enjoyable to watch if your 2 goal early lead comes through. I know the boys aren’t taking this one lightly…they have a goal, they are focused on the #1 spot, and OTT is playing tonight…they can smell blood.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  114. Hockey11 says:

    Can Dandy pass on the Breezer, that’s cruel and unusual treatment, a rusty d with an over the hill bad decision making D. Nothing good can come of it.

    Gorges/Breezer makes the most sense

    Dandy will have some rust so put him with the stud, Gorges has been okay so give him the Breezer and less minutes for this pair.

  115. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    like the asset backed paper crisis in the states!
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  116. The Teacher says:

    Oh, I’m sure 😉

    Thanks guys!

  117. HotHabs says:

    I think your “b” option is unlikely. Habs brass, AKA Mr. Gainey, is Carbo’s voice of reason and wouldn’t allow it to happen; not when the team has injuries and gaps to fill and is playing TO (no matter where they are in the standings).

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  118. HotHabs says:

    Notice the media doesn’t have anything to quote from Ryder? Ryder’s lips are sealed and he’s just sitting quietly eating Bell Centre hotdogs. When Dandy was out, we heard the grumblings. Just an observation and it may mean nothing, but then again…

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  119. MatttheHabsFan says:

    nono…ask leaf fans where kaberle sits overall in the league among dmen and i can almost gaurantee they’ll say hes top 3, certainly top 5 in the league…the argument normally goes something like “lidstrom, pronger, i guess now neidermayer….next best is probably him.”

    Alex Kovalev ~ “I still have four fingers left”

  120. Rugger says:

    Ah, the RAT, remember Kenny The Rat Linsman of the Bruins? The ultimate in aggrivators!

  121. Habster101 says:

    well, the way I see it is tonights game is going to be a disaster….

    the officiating is going to be pathetic…..thats the main reason why…

    the refs are going to benefit and help the Leafs…

    we have no chance against such odds….

    This is the brutal reality of it…

    Montreal will get called for every little tiny thing they do and the Leafs will get away with practically murder….

    be aware of this tonight…..they will get back at Kostisr and the rest of the team if they can just to try and hurt us and take us out…they dont want Montreal winning like we are…

    this is going to be a disaster of a game…… prepared for it is all I can say….

    the cheaters of the league will be out in full force tonight….

    the Habs just need to overcome the odds once again….

    Ryder should be playing tonight….what is up with that? big mistake….

    and why isn’t Boullion playing??? I missed that one…

    we may have to just give this one to the Leafs or else it can turn into a blood bath that we dont need…the Leafs are in last place, we dont need to prove anything by beating them, they are not in our jurisdiction, we want Ottawa again on Saturday… and we need to be healthy for it….

    the Leafs will be playing in a fantasy tonight thinking if they win, they make the playoffs…

    we dont need that…it will be like putting used oil into a new fine tuned running engine….

  122. kevrob says:

    Yeah everytime I open this page, I am anticipating a headline stating that Gainey has scheduled a press conference. A trade must be imminent and I am getting very antsy with anticipation.

  123. coutNY says:

    Maybe it’s retribution from leaving the game Sunday, although he came back… or Maybe the media has it wrong and he is playing???

  124. 24 Cups says:

    Hey Nightmare – kRob, Bill, and I will be giving discounts for any Habs’ posters who would like their income tax return prepared for 2007!

    The Original 24 Cups

  125. coutNY says:

    Whow Habster step back from the edge… you’re making excuses for a game we haven’t lost or even played for that matter!

    We are one of the least penalized teams in the league??

  126. nightmare_49 says:

    Seeing the games on the CBC tonight and the announcer and color man are writing down a few things (homework) to add to their script , i wonder if we can guess some of the charitable comments they will make towards the laffs like “i’ve never seen the laffs work so hard with so little results” “these laffs certainly have heart” etc. You know they have to pander towards the laffs or they will be working somewhere else next year. GTA rules CBC rules.

  127. HotHabs says:

    SLAP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Snap out of it, Habster101. Get a grip!

    BTW, I believe Bouillon is out with a foot injury from the other night after taking a shot.

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  128. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    Bad reffing or ‘fixed type reffing’ as you are implying is very possible, and I’ve already commented on it this morning as being the ONLY THING THAT CAN STOP US FROM WINNING.

    although I think you’ve gone over the top with your post, but if it pans out that way then your post was prophetic….lets hope your wrong.

    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  129. HotHabs says:

    That’s one good reason I will be watching on RDS. Although I must admit there is some comedic value to hearing those CBC commentators! I just can’t take much of it.

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  130. RH says:

    Bouillon’s out?? Who’s going to smack Tucker around, when Komisarek’s not on the ice?

  131. RH says:

    More importantly, what are the defensive pairings tonight then?

  132. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    when the laffs are losing, its great to listen to CBC…but when they are winning, it is PURE TORTURE…
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  133. Habster101 says:

    true, but I live in the Toronto region and its all I hear…
    they try to rate the Leafs up in the Montreal category when they are in last place…

    its pathetic…
    we may be the least penalized team statistically but when it comes to playing the Leafs that stat means nothing…

    lets just hope that Im wrong tonight and I can post some happy comments after the game…

    I just love the way the team is playing right now and they should dominate this game…

    goodluck all!!!

    go Habs go!!!!

  134. Scotty90 says:

    Kenny Linseman…. what a rat!

  135. originalsix says:

    Apparently it’s a game time decision on whether or not Bouillon will be playing. If he doesn’t play, that will mean Ryder is in the line up.

  136. HotHabs says:

    Interesting info:

    TSN has Plekanec rated #18 on their top 20 NHL centers.

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  137. habfan53 says:

    It all depends on which team the have doing the game. If it’s Bob Cole then RDS here I come. The other problem is I have a buddy who’s a Leafs fan coming over and he does’nt under french but he does say the action is the same in both languages.

  138. originalsix says:

    Have you guys heard the news.

    John Ferguson Jr. is going to be a scout for Team Canada.

    Thankfully he will not be the GM, since Steve Yzerman is filling that role.

  139. Shiloh says:

    But the hook’s gotta be in the offensive zone to count.

  140. Habster101 says:

    oh no, does this mean now we are going to be losing the gold…

  141. drecha says:

    La press and Boone are reporting that Ryder is in tonight for Bouillion and Dandy is moving to the Point.

    The tank is full, now let’s map the route for the drive to 25!!

  142. Shiloh says:

    I believe it’s b) – Carbo doesn’t like him.

  143. drecha says:

    We might have to re-qualify next year!!

    The tank is full, now let’s map the route for the drive to 25!!

  144. Shiloh says:

    When you ask Google to translate an RDS article online, Bouillon is always “Bubbles”.

  145. wild flower says:

    BG report card A+
    Nobody is talking about the disastrous Bonk departure like they were when he started the season by filling the net (check the stats: not many more pts. than he had 3 months ago and the worst plus minus on the team).

    BG report card F
    What would the Habs look like with both Ribeiro and Plecanek? Can you imagine him with the Kostisyns? Would Saku’s problems even matter? Oh well, Niinimaa came close to getting us to the playoffs last year.

  146. Habster101 says:

    well Im hppy to hear Ryder is in, we need his strong pressence…

    especially if he can unleash a few shots….

    not happy about Boullion being out…

  147. HotHabs says:

    May the hockey gods be merciful…

    I know where my finger is going to point should our national team start to tank over the next few years!!!

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  148. Bill H says:

    Hey, nightmare, if BG signs Komi for $4.5M for 5 years, how will that impact the salary cap space when Markov renegiotiates in 2011? LOL

  149. Habster101 says:

    well if history teaches us anything, then we know what to expect when playing the Leafs….

    and with that in mind, you can never go to far in thinking of what may happen tonight…

    I give you one thing though…and I hope its true, lets hope Im wrong…

  150. ZepFan2 says:

    CJAD is about to speak to Carbo. They want to know if Ryder is still a Hab.

    Cube in, Ryder sits.

    Absolute bullspit!

  151. Hockey11 says:

    Bouillion is injured, what else can u do? He’s not Nick Lidstrom either.

  152. originalsix says:

    Didn’t hear anything yet. Perhaps I missed it, did you catch the interview?

  153. Ian G Cobb says:

    Canada is in trouble if that is true, he couldn’t scout the brownies. Well maybe the spiked brownies.!!

  154. MNaslund26 says:

    who is cube? not familiar with all those nicknames…

  155. rogus says:

    Pretty bold to ask “if” Ryder is still a Hab???

  156. rogus says:

    Boullion, as in beef. Also known as Frankie B

  157. Hoegarden says:

    The rat was a Flyer not a Bruin.

  158. Hoegarden says:

    Sorry, a Flyer then an Oiler then a Bruin. Bu t I recall him mostly as a Flyer.

  159. Habster101 says:

    I agree with you….Ryder should be playing…drop smokes…

    WOW that is my favourite picture man….great!!

    best drummer, best band…

  160. ZepFan2 says:

    “Pretty bold to ask “if” Ryder is still a Hab???”

    Why is that? Is he or isn’t he, and why is he being singled out? Why doesn’t Smokes sit every now and then? Is he (smokes) better than Ryder in your (Carbos) opinion??

    All these are legitimate questions. Why shouldn’t CJAD or any media outlet not pose those questions?

  161. ZepFan2 says:

    Yup, Ryder sat, Dandy sat. Now it should be Smokes’ turn.

    Funny how Ryder doesn’t bitch and moan, yet Dandy does and how long did he sit again?

    “best drummer, best band…”

    Oh HELL yeah!!

    Hopefully we’ll be seeing them here in the very near future.

  162. PGHABS says:

    Smokes is a right handed centreman, that’s the only reason i can think of

  163. Puck Bard says:

    The Cup is a crap shoot; I’d just like to see the Habs in first place this late in the season again.

    When was the last time that happened?

  164. Shiloh says:

    Sit Billy Tenderness. He’ll be just as fast in the press box.

  165. Hockey11 says:

    “He who does not have the courage to speak up for his rights cannot earn the respect of others.”

    In the end we are all separate: our stories, no matter how similar, come to a fork and diverge. We are drawn to each other because of our similarities, but it is our differences we must learn to respect.”

    I didn’t hear Dandy moan, he said his piece that he was disappointed and wanted to help his team. He also tempered it by saying all the players feel the same. I was wondering if the coaching staff have cell phoes ‘cuz Dandy heard at 6:00 pm he wasn’t playing from an assistant equipment guy, his first healthy scractch as a Hab. How about a little respect if nothing else.

  166. T-roy West says:

    Besides Habster101, is their anyone else on this site that if they had to choose between keeping Higgins or Ryder, would choose to keep Ryder?

  167. Ed says:

    I have a very funny video on my Windows Media Player. Would someone please tell me if I can attach this to one of my comments?

  168. originalsix says:

    upload the vid on and attach the link to it in your post.

    or alternatively, you can upload it on youtube, and attach the link in your post!

  169. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    if you asked this question last year…it would be RYDER.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  170. G-Man says:

    Mickey Ribs would still be floating and loafing. He needed to get out of his home town (where all 5 million of his friends are)to become a pro. I still think he’s too slow to play center and one day will be popped (with a clean hit)that he won’t be able to fake.
    BG report card A+. His team is 1 point from first in the conference in February.


  171. G-Man says:

    Kovalev. :)


  172. G-Man says:

    Damn straight. Pierre & Yvon have a real passion for the game, making it a lot more interesting to listen to.

    What I wouldn’t give to hear Danny Gallivan call this edition of the Habs. I can hear him now, “And another incredible move by Kovalev…”


  173. T-roy West says:

    Sorry, that was suppose to say, who would choose Ryder?

  174. Ed says:

    Thank you very much for responding. Much appreciated. I can’t wait to try it, after the game is over of course.

  175. Richard B says:

    You may not read this at this point…
    but I would not be a bit shocked if Breezer dresses the rest of the season and plays 15 mins a game. (regardless of who has to sit)
    Seems like Carbo loves him.

  176. originalsix says:

    Not a problem. Looking forward to it. IN the meantime, this game is amazing!

  177. Habby67 says:

    You arent going to win with Breeze by in the lineup. I think you can almost bring anyone up from Hamilton and it will be an improvement. I am getting sick and tired of their pathetic efforts against the Leafs. This last week the team hasnt been playing great at all. I say get some secondary scoring and put Dandy back on D to replace Breeze by which would be an immense improvement, in my opinion. I think there are many teams that are much more prepared than the Habs to go into the playoffs. Koivu looks lost out there lately and Price has been ordinary to say the least. Time to crack the whip there Carbo……..

  178. G-Man says:

    Funny posts. Habs win, Carbo’s an idiot. Habs lose, Carbo’s an idiot. It must be his fault Koivu has been sucking rocks all season. Ditto for Ryder and Higgins. What’s up with Lapierre? He’s been invisible; not a good sign for a young center that wants to crack the lineup. After last night’s “performance”, I think the whip needs to be cracked a little.
    Before the season began, most posters also thought the Habs were at best an
    8th place team. The team is on the rise and all around I see posters that say we must trade most of our players because they, the coaching staff, the scouts and our management are all incompetent and should be replaced. It was one BAD game, folks, lost by 1 goal,not armageddon.


  179. Sulemaan says:

    My ten cents:

    (1) We have a young team and a lot of prospects in the system. We signed another one to a contract today (Brock Trotter). Let’s stick to the plan.

    (2) I hate losing to the Leafs as much as the next fan but the team played flat for most of the game. Granted there were some atrocious non-calls in the 3rd period but when you only show up for one period what do you expect.

    (3) I think we need to understand that we are effectively a one forward line (Kovalev, Plekanec, A. Kostitsyn) and one defensive pairing team (Markov, Komisarek) team. So when Koivu’s line is not running on all cylinders or when Hamrlik is injured we are in trouble.

    (4) We need a second line and Koivu needs to get it in gear. I think you put Higgins, Koivu and Ryder back together it can’t be any worse than tonight. Barring a trade, I don’t know what other solution there is. I don’t think Dandenault is an improvement over Ryder.

    (5) Our team is close but not ready to take the top slot in the eastern conference. Any kind of deal that is a short-term fix is not worth it. We need to stay the course and be patient. Let our youth develop and grow. A lot of the names mentioned are short-term fixes.

    (6) Tonight just underlined how if we lose a key player (Kovalev, Markov, Hamrlik) our team is in trouble.

    (7) Lapierre has lost his edge. If he doesn’t pick it up he should go back down to Hamilton and Chipchura should get the call up. Another gritty player who needs to pick up his play is Begin. He’s not the same in your face player as he was last year.

    (8) Brisebois is not a top four defenceman. He’s a liability and I hope Hamrlik gets better and O’Byrne gets called up soon after a conditioning stint. O’Byrne has better potential to be a tough top-4 defenseman.

    (9) Carey Price did not play that badly tonight. In fact, the Habs would have not even been close to tying up the game if it wasn’t for him.

    (10) Let’s keep our eye on the prize (to quote Robert L) and that prize for this year is the playoffs. Anything above and beyond is gravy. Let’s not get carried away about blowing up the team because of one loss or trading away prospects/picks so we might win one playoff round.

  180. T-roy West says:

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  181. idle says:

    I agree with most of your points here. I agree that Lapierre is not being impactfull enough and it might be time to see if Chipchura is ready to come back yet. I thought Price made some good saves tonight and he is a very quick goalie.

    I will say however that there are enough games that Brisebois mistakes stand out for you guys to complain about, lets not bring him up when he isn’t a factor. He played well overall tonight with a couple good hits and some decent passing and even getting involved in some offensive chances. I thought he played that 3 on 1 well and he seemed to step in front of people more tonight then usual. He was soft on Tucker in the boards when let him back into the play to score the goal but if every time a player let someone off the hook on the boards resulted in a goal then the games would be much higher scores then they are now.

  182. habsguy says:

    well said Sulemaan & coloradohab…its’ nice that we do have some true fans of the habs.

  183. PGHABS says:

    great read,
    brisebois is a seventh dman at best and it shows, o byrne will be back.
    i wouldn’t mind getting an impact player in a trade (i keep dreaming Hossa, and not marcel), i think a good right winger to compliment koivu and higgins would give us an edge we are lacking, as well as getting an improvement over smolinski, who i think is a roster filler

  184. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    its too SICKENING to talk about the errors…from Carbs juggling on down…
    (can you imagine he changed the linemates from the ottawa win!!! bloody IDIOTIC!!!!)

    anyway I said its toooo SICKENING to talk about losing to the …………

    let me just say this, it makes me forget the loss:


    Lets face it, he is a CHAMPION.

    when your team is losing you need to step it up to another LEVEL, and thats what he did, we witnessed a player in a league of his own tonight, the leafs were little pylons to him, man that guy can elevate his game, at WILL, what a superstar…WHAT A SUPERSTAR…. HE ALMOST SINGLE HANDED STOLE THE GAME BACK.

    whatever happens to the other lines, lets just hope KOVY stays motivated. TONIGHT he moved into PLAYOFF MODE.

    also ever notice how he is tapping everyone at the bench after the period..RIVET used to do that, then SURgeryRAY…..
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  185. ebk says:

    gotta disagree about Mad Max, he is the Habs best penalty killer on the forward lines and he is a huge pain in the ass to play against. Begin as well

    Bring up Chipper I agree but I’d start sitting Smolinski, Dandenault and Kostopoulos before sitting Begin and Mad Max.

  186. habitual says:

    All good points, except for # 8. Breezer isn’t a top 4 D but be fair. He wasn’t brought into be that, and he didn’t hurt us tonight. Most of the team didn’t show up …

    After taking bites out of Ryder for most of the season, I am throwing in with your suggestion of putting him back with Higgins and Koivu. The last several quotes from Higgins tell me he is taking bites out of himself. At least the three of them know what to expect of each other, and Sergei will be better off on a line that he is not expected to resuscitate.

    And how about point # 11: Be calm, this win one, lose one patch will pass. There are about 27 other teams that would like to be where we are.

  187. ebk says:

    You are kidding right, Brisebois left Tucker all alone in front of the net for the 2nd goal. He certainly didn’t cost the team the game but he was part of the problem

  188. PGHABS says:

    i agree, it’s nice to hear some common sense after reading a post from HJ

  189. 24 Cups says:

    C12 – Guys can post all they want but it just seemed that the Lousy Leafs outskated and outhustled us all night long. They just appeared to want it more than we did. I don’t think it really came down to one individual play or player – in fact after the first 15 minutes or so we seemed to be always trying to regain control of the game. The prime directive is still to make the playoffs and then see were we go from there. It’s the sting of losing to the Lousy Leafs that really hurts the most. Don’t give up hope – we’re having a great year and I’m enjoying every minute of it.

    The Original 24 Cups

  190. ebk says:

    Jeff Carter won’t be cheap buddy, probably cost Higgins or someone similar

  191. Xtrahabsfan says:

    The answer is so simple:1)Reunite the kid line.2)Call up more Bull Dogs!3) Remove Smoke ,Ryder,Brisbo,Begin and DANDY! TIME FOR THEM TO MOVE ON TO NEW PASTURES and good luck.4)Get a real power forward that has size. 5)Consider PLAYING THE Ducks 3 line system,not enough talent for 4 lines at this point and time and filler is B.S.

  192. Sulemaan says:

    Definitely agree with #11. Let’s hope the other #11 picks it up.

  193. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Time to bench Koivu.

  194. Sulemaan says:

    Thanks guys.

  195. Sulemaan says:

    i agree he’s a good pk but 5 on 5 he hasn’t been delivering the goods – at least what he’s capable of. Same as Begin.

  196. Sulemaan says:

    Not sure I follow you c12

  197. Sulemaan says:

    a good right winger (trigger-man) to compliment koivu and higgins would be nice. it’s unfortunate it couldn’t be ryder.

  198. Sulemaan says:

    Maybe you’re right about picking on Brisebois but he’s just not capable of playing anything beyond a 6th or 7th defenceman position.

  199. HJ says:

    our defence has been lousy the last few games, giving up 4 goals/game. So how do you expect to win when you have 1 line scoring, and your D gives up 4 goals/game? realistically, when the season began, nobody thought this team would even make the playoffs, so if we finish in 7th or 8th place, that’s about as good as it’s going to get. We aren’t in the same class as Ottawa, Philly, Pitt, NJ, Det, SJ, Ana, ,,,, So accept it until we get more scorers, in about 5 years, because that’s about all it’s going to be until there’s scoring depth. Gainey isn’t about to do something major, because he’s way too conservative. If he was really interested in improving this team, he would have done it in the offseason. too bad our GM isn’t Brian Burke or Holmgren, who are very aggressive, and get instant results. Yeah, last year we were a 1 line offence, same as this year, and not going to change. remember, we are only 8 points out of 8th place, and they have 2 games in hand. It’s not inconceivable that this team will lose a few in a row, and fall into 9th place. We haven’t gone into a slump yet, but I feel it coming. We’ve now lost 3 of our last 5, and basically playing 500 hockey, which isn’t good enough to make the playoffs. Philly, Pitt, NJ, Ottawa are better than us, because they have 2 lines who could score. If Atlanta wants Koivu and Higgins for Hossa, I’d do it in a second. Koivu is finished, on his last leg, with nothing left in the tank. All he does well now, is constantly fall down. He’s a real joke! get rid of him, even for a 3rd round draft pick, because he’s not worth more, and get a center who can stay on his feet. Ryder is garbage too, and Higgins doesn’t know which side is up. He’s not a goal scorer, and more like a Carbo type player. And if Kovalev, Plekanec or Kostistyn gets injured, were done like toast! no depth on this team.

  200. HotHabs says:

    Not that I think the trade would be a good one – I don’t. But, you need to realize that Tanguay is actually slightly bigger than Ryder. A technicality, I know, but you mentioned twice that Ryder is bigger.

    According to

    Ryder – 6’0″ 186 lbs.
    Tanguay – 6’1″ 188 lbs

    I agree with you about the coaching issues. Carbo can’t keep shuffling the lines. It won’t help chemistry. It blocks cohesion. It does not improve the team. He’s playing the “line lottery” hoping for a winner. News flash, Carbo: the odds are always stacked against you in gambling!!! Would I fire him at this stage of the season? NO. IMO, if Gainey could’ve picked a “good” time to drop Carbo it would’ve been during the slump in early December(?).

    Also, when LaPierre is playing with some passion he is a great forechecker and becomes a major pain in the a** for opposing teams – what a team needs on a shut-down line. He’s just not playing that way these days.

    And, while I’m not a huge fan of Lats, I think he has potential to be at least 20-25 goal scorer in the next couple of years. He has to make more efficient use of his size and reach, digging hard along the boards and also planting himself in front of the net to screen and pick up trashy rebounds – he’s very good at that cuz his reach is crazy and he has decent hands.

    Hey, we all vented some tonight. No biggie! I won’t accuse you of jumping off the so-called bandwagon. You like most fans want a winner, and seeing your team lose to a lame one just brings out the fury of losing!

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  201. HotHabs says:

    you’re probably right on that. but, he would be a nice fit here, don’t you think?

    IMO, a couple of pressing questions in getting Carter or any other player is “what are we willing to give up? and do we make sacrifices only with long term dividends?”

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  202. HotHabs says:

    Agreed. Breezer left Tucker alone on that goal. He did cost us something tonight.

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  203. HotHabs says:

    Dead on Sulemaan. Neither of those guys is playing with edge or fire in their bellies. They need to pick it up or sit down in the press box. I do miss Chipchura, too.

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  204. HotHabs says:

    I also think Price played well tonight. But, I don’t think he’s a quick goalie. However, he plays position to a tee most of the time and with his size that makes shooting past him very difficult.

    Breezer is a 7th D, and he cost a goal despite some decent play. He was lucky a couple of times on some very high risk passes that thankfully weren’t picked off. Keep in mind, he was brought in to be a 7th D-man and fill a support role. I just hope Carbo is mindful of that…

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  205. PGHABS says:

    nice rant
    im happy someone like you isn’t the GM, Koivu for a third round draft pick? i agree koivu is not playing up to his standards, but i think koivu and higgins will pick it up, because they have the speed, talent and the smarts.
    go habs

  206. T-roy West says:

    If anyone cares – Montreal signed Brock Trotter out of the University of Denver to a three year contract and is going to Hamilton right away. He is 5’9″ and weighs 165lbs. Great, another smurf.

  207. HotHabs says:

    Interesting post, HJ. My thoughts in response to some of yours:

    -Gainey is a patient GM who is trying to rebuild this franchise from within. It’s a philosophy that can work, like it has for the Wings. The keys for success with this approach are a)draft well, and b)bust your a** on player development. Rebuilding takes time…

    -I, too, feel the team is getting into a slump. I just hope it won’t last long. It’s true that .500 hockey is not good enough to make the playoffs or make it past the first round.

    -I think the Koivu era may be coming to an end. Poor guy has worked his tail off over all these years only to come up short, largely due to a weak team and bad management for many of his tenure here. However, I don’t think he’s washed up or tired out. I think he’ll pull through and improve, but the media has been relentless and that must be mentally draining on a player. It’s hard to play well under a microscope of constant criticism. The column in La Presse today was a kick in the teeth and I hope Koivu doesn’t hear much about it. He’s got a lot of heart, but it’s been stabbed so many times I think he can’t stop the bleeding. I do feel badly that he’s been crowned a 1st line centre all along, when in reality he’s always been a 2nd liner. Oh, and I strongly believe Koivu’s worth more than a 3rd round draft pick…

    -while Ryder has had a few decent scoring seasons, I think he’s a one-trick pony whose days are by-gone. I have a sneaking suspicion Carbo may have picked up on that a little while ago, too.

    -Higgins has great hockey sense but has an identity crisis and consequently can’t find the broad side of a barn. The mental game is so delicate and critical to the success of the team and it’s various parts. I think you’re right about him being a shut-down forechecker – a 3rd liner. The bonus there is that he can also score when he’s not mentally imprisoned!

    -Philly and Ottawa are better teams than Mtl. Not so sure about Pitt & NJ. But, with 110% effort from all lines/goalies the Habs can beat any team in the league. I don’t think they could do it consistently though, which is what a playoff run rides on.

    -stay positive. If the Habs thought like you they’d certainly be keeping company with the Leafs in the standings. Gotta keep the dream alive despite the setbacks and weaknesses. Just think: Habs are in a position that most of us would only have dreamed of in October.

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  208. JA says:

    I do not understand Carboneau’s decision to start the game with Smolinski, Begin and Kostopoulos against the Sundin line, the first shift gave the Leafs all the confidence they needed to win the game.

    I believe had he started with the Kovalev line it would have been a completely different game.

    I also did not see anyone try to screen the goalie tonight, Toskala saw every shot.

    Play Ryder, put Smolinski, Dandeneault and Brisebois in the press box.

    I know Koivu will bounce back and have a good playoff.

  209. HotHabs says:

    I think the wheels are in motion for a multi-player deal which will include a couple of prospects, including Trotter who may be touted as another St.Louis type player? We’ll see… then again, it’s 3am, I’m getting delusional, and I’m way overdue to hit the sack!

    More likely reason for the signing is that the Bulldogs are preparing for the postseason run and want to add a bit of depth.

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  210. HotHabs says:

    Right on about Toskala seeing everything. He hardly saw any red the whole game. Most goalies in this league can stop most players’ shots from 30+ feet away if they can see them coming and there’s no deflection. Toskala had the privilege of both. Granted he played well, but he wasn’t overly challenged.

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  211. T-roy West says:

    I got my stats from, it was updated recently. I’ve seen at least four different heights and weights for this guy from different sites so who knows. Your site is probably the most accurate, unless the team is trying to make him seem bigger than he really is.

  212. 24 Cups says:

    ebk – I think his name only came up in terms of Philly getting Forsberg and signing him not only for this year but the next few as well. They would then be up against the cap and wouldn’t be able to resign Carter. In which case they would want kids instead of Higgins who will want a hefty raise on his 1.9 after next year. Then of course, there’s talk that the cap might go up $3 mil next year (and probably the year after) so who knows. All I can say is I would love to see Carter in a Habs uniform. He would compliment Pleks beautifully. Koivu could move to the wing.

    The Original 24 Cups

  213. Richard B says:

    Reading many posts from Ryder supporters below…
    or maybe not supporters, just fans who favor him over the stellar offensive play of Smokes and Dandy.
    I am glad he didn’t play last night. If he was put back in for the loss, and never scored…he would be benched permently.

    I understand this team is battling for 1st…but I am concerned. We won’t keep winning like this if Koivu and someone besides the Pleks line don’t become a threat.

    I don’t think S. Kost is a first liner yet and Lats an’t either.
    If they have given up on Ryder and Higgins (which I believe is jumping the gun) they need to get someone else in here soon…and smokes an’t it.

  214. Praj12 says:

    And don’t forget about koivus famous offensive zone hook!!

  215. Chris says:

    It is posts like this one that make me remember why I USED to read all your posts…you do make some very valid points. Its all the one-liner posts that serve no purpose and all your feuds that turn me off.

    But you are right…this team is a “nice, little team” that may make the playoffs, and that is a hell of a lot more than anybody who was on here would have expected in the summer. Now that we’re performing well, half the people want to jump the shark and trade for a bunch of expensive rent-a-players / veterans instead of letting the proper rebuilding actually run its course. Will Koivu or Kovalev lead us to a Stanley Cup? I would guess not, but I hope yes. But over the next 2-3 years, Price will gain the necessary experience, our crop of good defensive prospects should begin to stabilize the back-end of our defence corps and we can hopefully find a couple more secondary scorers, either through the draft (Pacioretti) or free agents (we will be much more attractive to free agents as a winning team with a bright future). At that point, I will start to believe we are a legitimate contender.

  216. Richard B says:

    I believe that “vicious elbow” you refer to was a reaction to the elbow that was intended to hit Kovalev’s face just 5 seconds before. At least Kovalev hit the same guy, and just never went and hit any target from behind.
    I liked it as it show that Kovalev don’t intend to be run…and if you do, you are going to pay!

    I am also not quite sure about “1 line team”.
    They may have only one scoring line…but they have 4 all star defense men and a stellar goalie.

  217. Ian G Cobb says:

    Luckey for Neil that Komisarik has discipline..!!!

  218. HABZ 24 says:

    it seems last years hero’s this years zeros ,koivu,ryder,higgins have passed the scoring torch to kovey and plek line,now koivu lines not carrying the team, so they have the pressure off and can slack it more its seems.i love what koivus done and meant to the habz but it maybe time facturing in his age to trade koivu while he still has some value.ryder if givin time could work thru this season long slump, but how long do we give him? or is he becomming last years samsonov? the difference between good teams and great cup winning teams is having all lines giving it there all, not just one or two lines and a goalie standing on his head.true put dandy back on defence, send breezer back to europe for a permanant vacation and trade koivu and another throw in and a draft choice for a top 2 line forward. GO HABS GO!!

  219. nightmare_49 says:

    I don’t think Carbo , last change , wanted Sundin’s line playing against Kovy’s line at all which is only logical as the laffs other lines arn’t good defensively and rely only on their hustle.

  220. coutNY says:

    Here we go again, lose a game (especailly an emotion battle against the laffs and everyone predicting desaster. Calling for trades of our captian, Higgins, and Ryder. Even heard the wish for Holgran and Burke for GM. Surprise! Surprise! BTW LA Kings beat the Wings last night better trade everyone and get Bowman back behind the Bench before al hell breaks loose.

    Bla, Bla, bla… no one thought we’d be ware we are at this point. Once we waiver, even a tiny bit, the DOOMS-DAYERS swoop in with the “I told you So’s. Those fail to realize Montreal has been one of the most consistant teams all year, only losing 1 game following a loss in a previous match. They’ve have been entertaining at least 95% of the time and probably closer 98%. A lot nights I hear from the comminators and media that when playing Montreal, its a like playoff atmosphere usually the game of the night! Look at right now Mtl vs TO ~ Game of the Night!

    The season will go on. The Nay-Sayer-Dooms-Dayers, or (NSDD)for short, will tout victory, even if we go deep the play-offs without bringing home the CUP. Given only 1 team out of 30 can do win it, the odds are in their favor. At the beginning of the year a even Hab faithfuls had a hard time seeing any success from this team, there could be a lot more to be crying about…. take a day off from the anger and misery to enjoy the game. The sting of a TO loss will wear-off eventually… the chaos will subside; the Habs will live to fight another day!


  221. 24 Cups says:

    I know coutNY but we lost to the Laffs and it’s killing me. I feel like I need to talk to someone about it today but I’m not sure it would be covered under my wife’s medical plan. I guess Dr. Drambuie will have to suffice instead. (later in the day that is!) I can’t begin to tell you how much I hate the Leafs.

    The Original 24 Cups

  222. rogus says:

    I “Love” watching these games on CBC! The commentating was out of this world. After about the 3rd non call in the 3rd “Oh boy, the ref’s are just letting them play” “Ya isn’t it great!” WOW. I had to change over to RDS…they made more sense…and my French is mediocre at best!

    Seriously though. Team effort was not there. Can’t blame Price, although he has looked better. Pleks line was good as usual. Really missed the Hammer, Brisebois had the best seat in town on the Tucker goal. One line and a goalie won’t beat a rabid bunch of stick holding, (then falling down and getting the call) diving pylons, horrible ref’s, and commentators from hell. Just my rant, the boys will be back Saturday, no doubt.

    P.S. I wish Komi would have DESTROYED that grinning jerk MATS!!!

  223. coutNY says:

    Positive note!

    How can we not just stand in awe of Kovalev’s late 3rd period PK which looked like we’re on the PP, than SH goal.

    No excuses, but TO winning goal came from a miss call from a vetran player taking a dive by grabbing a rookie S~Kost stick and falling over… crafty but not much on the classy side. What can you expect from a laff, welcome back McCabe!

  224. coutNY says:

    Notice after McCabe’s grab and back-ward dive, old Mr. Cole or Neil saw the replay, noticed it was a dive, than quickly changed the subject…

    I was boiling that living in the US, I had no other choice, but to watch CBC. If I had to listen to one more time Neil saying “the Canadiens expected to come here and get an easy win,” than I was going turn the volume off. THe only deterant was I love the atmoshere of the crown too much! TO bad their wasn’t a Kareoke feature for TV…Wait I have a patten pending on that feature for all you techies waiting to get rich!

  225. Bill H says:

    ROFL Oh the joy of reading this page the day after a loss. Carbo is a moron. Fire him. Gainey will never do what it takes to get a winning team because he is too conservative. Trade Koivu for a third round draft pick. Ryder is garbage. Higgins is a career third liner. Lapierre doesn’t score, doesn’t hit, doesn’t fight. Latendresse, Smolinski and Brisbois are pilons. Cry me a river. But do not worry. There is help just around the corner. With daily medication, you too can learn to get past these little bumps that life brings us. LMAO

  226. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    Kovy will not be RUN, he always gets EVEN – did everyone forget the TUCKER incident.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  227. Will Longlade says:

    For-Fact-Sakes would appear to be the evil twin of Cage-Rattler. The prose is identical.

  228. coutNY says:

    He acually announced the name change… so they are one in the same. Split personality maybe… but that would require two different personalities…

  229. habsgod says:

    one thing you can take to the bank!is the make me laffs are done no playoffs!na na na na na hey,hey good bye!they’ll be golfing in march never mind april!here’s another fact your an idiot that was hiding until your laffs win one game!

  230. mjames says:

    I was of the same opinion. I had no other choice but to listen to CBC. I have never heard two announcers who were so biased toward one team. Not only were these guys TO fans but they did not pay attention to what taking place on the ice. They never got the penalites right. There were actually very very bad. Where did they get these guys from??


  231. idle says:

    Because of fans like us. Why would you bring a new inexperienced coach into a losing situation in Montreal and feed him to the wolves right away. Gainey acted as a buffer for the rest of the season. That gives Carb a chance to get used to all the players, sit back a bit and observe the situation and not have so much pressure dumped on him at once.

  232. habsgod says:

    hint:i’ve never seen an idiot like you either!here’s a fact hollweg is a cheapshot artist he got what he deserved from kovalev he tried to elbow kovalev in the head just before that open your eyes!don’t come on here spewing this facts crap and garbage that is baseless!it just makes you look stupid and unknowledgeable that’s a fact!why did gainey have carbonneau for half a year!look moron it’s called no coaching expierence it’s called learning on the job that’s a fact!here’s another fact go away!oh btw carbonneau is twice the coach than the laffs coach!maurice is a puppet!

  233. idle says:

    Generally we lose as many times to the Leafs as we win in a season and I think more times in recent seasons. Not sure why it has to be such a disaster each time. No matter how good one team is playing or how bad one team is playing these two teams are always at their best against one another and that means both teams are going to win some and lose some. Deal with it.

  234. idle says:

    You want bias, you should hear the Ottawa announcers.

  235. idle says:

    I was going to comment on that play as well, because of the fact that in response to seeing it was a dive they said “what a smart veteran play” and that is not the first time I have heard them refer to someone who draws a fake penalty that way. I think it was Millen who said it and I have heard him say it before. I understand that players are going to try and draw penalties, I just don’t think we need to be congratulating them on successful dives and fakes. Oh what great poor sportsmanship they have!

  236. mjames says:

    Can you do us a favour and cease with the jabs. If you wish to make a negative or even positive comment please do but your incessant negative jabs are not only juvenile but a bore. Also we know you do not like Koivu. Not need to tell us every day.


  237. idle says:

    Well Price let in 3 goals so if you average that over 4 games that is 12. Only 1 less then 13, so how is Price playing great but Huet needs to snap out of it?

  238. Will Longlade says:

    sorry, I missed that.

  239. habsgod says:

    where in my post did i ever mention that gainey was the best g.m ever you should open your eyes!think before you speak!don’t go off at the mouth before the brain engages!i said he helped get carbonneau ready,who had no expierence!!

  240. krob1000 says:

    We should look into JC Petit what he lacks in size is made up for with his great reflexes, positioning and confidence. He is affordable (only a few dollars) and could be the affordable bridge between Huet and Price we have been seeking. He will only be available for a limited time only though (while supplies last). Get on it Bob he is the real deal….and French Canadian as well.

  241. Ed says:

    I’m slow, but hey, I finally got it. I did not know his name. Must be my lack of the ability to understand French. From what I have seen, he is incredible, but what if other teams also acquire him while supplies last?

  242. idle says:

    sure from his promo clip he looks great at stopping shots from the blue line. But how is he in traffic or when teams start crashing the net on him??

  243. krob1000 says:

    Did you see his poke check??? He also has great lateral movement on the wrap around attempt. Give the kid a chance….he has spunk.

  244. ColoradoHab says:

    I agree on Toskala seeing everything. Toronto has Big D and the way the refs were calling the game allowed for interference. The Habs small forwards were being interfeered with. I remember AKost being knocked into the net on the PP, no call.

  245. idle says:

    All I’m saying is lets not give him the keys to the franchise yet. He has not won anything in the NHL yet and their is no reason to rush him with Huet playing well. Lets just slow down a bit here. Bring him along slowly and we will see what happens.

    (how far are we willing to take this?)

  246. Hockey11 says:

    Well when OB returns Breezer is #7 and that is fine. I would be more comfortable with Dandy as 7, anyone but Breezer.

  247. The Teacher says:

    Hey Fact Rattler. I actually agree with a lot of your post. Although I disagree about including Plekanec, he never seems to get hit.

    I also agree with the huge mistake of trading Ryder. They have totally wasted him.

    Most coaches start off as assistants, there is nothing unusual about that.

  248. Blitzen says:

    I’m predicting the Koivu line will come up big in this game.

    We need to reinforce the fact that the Leafs suck by giving them a beating. No third period letdown.

  249. RH says:

    The leafs are not to be taken lightly tonight. Even with certain media types and fans wanting them to tank the rest of the season, I don’t see that happening. As bad as they are, these guys are still professionals and will be in a bad mood, after that drubbing the other night. If the Habs continue to play methodically, and not be intimidated by size, they should be able to weather the storm in the first period, and come out unscathed, or,(bonus), with a lead. Should be a good one.

  250. Infanteer says:

    On not taking the Leafs lightly: I couldn’t agree more. After being pounded in their last (so-called) effort, I expect a much better performance. Paul Maurice is too good a coach for anything less.

    As for “weathering the storm” though, I’m not so sure. Look at the stats. The Leafs lose more than half of their games they lead after the first period. The secret, obviously, is to let them pot a couple of goals, then play catch-up.

    Tongue is now firmly planted in cheek.

  251. JF says:

    I completely agree. The Leafs are an enigmatic team, capable of absolutely the worst but also capable of playing very good hockey, which they usually do against our team. We have been playing well lately, and games against the Leafs don’t wear quite the formidable aspect that they used to, but there are no easy games. We need to match our speed and skill against their size, get behind their porous defense and put traffic in front of the net. Carbo said last night it’s doubtful that Hamrlik will be back; in that case I guess Brisebois will be in. He was quite good last game; he needs to keep it simple, not try any fancy moves and concentrate on the good outlet passes he’s capable of making.

  252. Ed says:

    There has been a lot of talk about Montreal’s system, and how they seem to go into a defensive shell when they have a lead. This approach has back fired on a few occasions. Now, is this defensive shell intentional, or is it just a natural reaction of certain players?

    There is a saying that the best defense is a good offense. This applies to the Plekanec line as they are by far our best forwards, both offensively and defensively. Kovalev and Plekanec are 1 and 2 on the team in both points and +/-, while Kostitsyn is 4th in points by forwards and 3rd in +/- for forwards. Their +/-‘s are 13, 11 and 10 respectively, far ahead of the other forwards. Kovalev and Plekanec also have the best PK record on the team.

    Has this line been so effective because of the coaching, or is it in spite of the coaching? I think it is the latter, and the inspiration comes from Kovalev. He wants to be creative offensively, and he has got the other two players to join in. Last year when Kovalev got into one of his controversies for speaking to the media, one of the things that he is alleged to have criticized Carbonneau for was that his defensive style was stifling creative players. Of course he denied everything, but that is what you would expect. This year he has said all the right things, while making the decision to be very creative offensively. It has definitely worked.

  253. Ian G Cobb says:

    Chuck in Hamilton, pertaining to the Habs Summit. Please call me at (613) 968-9807. I need to put you in touch with Mike Loncar in Hamilton.

    And for the rest of you that wish to ride the Hab Fan coach on the VIA train leaving Mtl. and picking up fans all along the route to Hamilton Bull Dog Summit. We are hoping to have some of our hockey Legions riding the same coach with us.

    Robert L is setting up a place on his blog called -Keep your eyes on the prize, where you can get information and sign up for this great event.

    We want you all, to have a ball.!!!

    And for those driving or flying, just let us know on Robert’s “keep eyes on the prize” site

  254. Ian G Cobb says:

    Check out Robert,s site, called,- keep your eyes on the prize.

  255. The Teacher says:

    Regarding Breezer. I’m already cringing thinking about the size of the Leafs.

  256. RH says:

    Regarding Brisebois, I wouldn’t even worry about the outlet passes. Just concentrate on getting the puck out of the zone and not having any defensive zone lapses. Once, he’s got that aspect of his game under control, then maybe he could be a little more creative.

  257. coutNY says:

    Now, we’ve tried every combonation known to man to try to spark our 2nd line with the exception of one which worked last year when Higgins was injured? Could we try:




    As people noted, Higgins and Ryder don’t seem to have any chemistry together, which I agree, but neither will thrive with a Dandy, Begin or Kostop type players. Those type players pound the forecheck to cause turnovers and agitating the opposition to create their opportunities. They don’t have the skills to cycle and sustain pressure passing the puck that a Higgins or Ryder can offer. I’ve questioned Carbo’s line logic before and have been dead wrong in the past. Please surprize me again!!!

    Note: Higgins has usually responded in the past when placed in situational roles better than Ryder.

    GO Habs Go!

  258. mjames says:

    I would like to see those lines. I also do not see the logic of placing the skill players with Dandy and his gang. Let’s hope Smolinski gets it together. To date he hasn’t brought anything. Ryder brings more than Smolinski and Dandy. Lastly Carbo better have his team ready because TO will be coming out hard.


  259. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    the difference this year compared to when RYDER was putting in 30 goals is simple: HIGGINS PLAY.

    ya, back then HIGGS had one purpose, to work hard and get RYDER the puck..this year its different, higgs is trying to deke and shoot and score, thats 95% of what his game is this year, so RYDER doesn’t get the passes and instead he is trying to deke around, and Koivu is in the middle of this transition of style.

    When KOVY’s line is on, you know what they are going to do, they play to their strengths, you don’t see KOVY flying down the wing, thats PLEK…you don’t see PLEK hammering someone in the corner, thats KOSTY, etc… they are a tuned engine….KOIVU’s line is miss firing badly, they need to define their roles again….and thats up to KOIVU.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  260. Ian G Cobb says:

    O.K. here goes my weekly report on the three most important stats in determining where we stack up in a 30 team league.

    GA—150 We are in 16th place, one better than 17th place a week ago.

    Total points–67 4th place, we were in 7th place a week ago.

    GF—173 We are in 3rd place, we were in 5th place a week ago

    We have improved every week for over two months.

    The very most important stat is the one we have to get down if we are to make a noise in the playoffs, and that is goals against.

  261. coutNY says:

    Love the stats… and the Hab progression! Onward and upward Habitants… Cheers Ian!

  262. The Teacher says:

    +23 differential. That’s the biggest margin I’ve seen in a while! How many years has it been?

    Pretty sure it was never at +20 last year.

  263. idle says:

    Have to disagree with you Ian. Although goals against are nice to keep low, the most important stat, and really the only really important stat, is points, or in the playoffs, wins.

    Cheers man

  264. Habhopeful says:

    Just To Note: Huet has played 13 straight and has gone 9-4 through those games, I’m not sure if it’s coincidence that hes not playing tonite but even if it isnt, it’s good to give huet a well rested day off and seeing as how Price is 3-0 against the Make Beliefs, it all comes together wonderfully, Huet has been playing great during this stretch, some questionable goals but altogether is a team game and his defence has let him down occasionally…To sum it up, Go Price Go, let em have it and to the rest of the habs, DO NOT! take this game lightly…

    I see someone getting a hat trick tonight…

    “I Believe…”

  265. coutNY says:

    Gazette’s Pat Hickey: Writes that HAMRLIK expected to miss 2nd straight game with the Flu and Ryder also but not by choice, illness or injury…. Read more here…

  266. The Teacher says:

    I think everyone would rather Hamrlik sit 2 games than to infect the rest of the team!

  267. showey47 says:

    i believe we were a minus last year and something tells me that we were pretty close to league worst. are u talking about goal differential or team plus/minus

  268. Ed says:

    In 2006-07 it was GF 245; GA 256; -11. The road record was a very weak spot last year (16-22-3), as compared to being really good this year. It’s interesting to note that they went 7-3-0 in their last 10 games last year.

  269. The Teacher says:

    Goal differential.

  270. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    as far as this game goes its a good decision to put PRICE in, he has played about 12 games in a row down with the Dogs…Halak is ice cold so it was ok to send him down, he started the first game he was sent down and won.

    as for Huet, the guy needs a break once every 10 games or more going down the stretch.

    and the last point….the LAFFS have played backup goalies all year, why change now!
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  271. coutNY says:

    I would go as far as pointing fingers, they’ve all (Higgi,Koivu,Ryder)had their chance with others to find there game and even work with each other. It’s a wake-up call to be benched. You need to respond… period. The Younger players A-Kost and Laten seem to have figured out a way, so Ryder can to… That is, if he isn’t broken like a beaten down mull at this point; stewing insde but with a lack of confidence.

    Yes, I agree the whole line needed to step back and figure out their strengths, as the Kovy’s line seem to do this year to bring back the fun ie Koivu should do. Kovalev was all but run out-of-town and at his age hockey for that matter after 2007 season, but instead of coming into 2008 with the “World or Hockey Mecca of Montreal” is against me attitude, he stepped back, worked with his mates to adjust from a year earlier what did not work. Now people, some of who wished ill toward him, Are calling for his captainacy!

    Gainey, CArbo, Muller, or Someone should give Koivu the same talk which seemed to inspire change in Kovalev.

  272. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    Good point on Ryder, he now must play on eggshells, even after he jumped to Higgs defense against the Isles which I thought was the turning point to Carbs good books, HE IS SCRATCHED 3 TIMES since!…any player who is not interested or going through the motions (samsonov) would have skated to the bench, not JUMPED into the FRAY.

    What Carb doesn’t understand is that 99% of this game is MENTAL.
    Doing what he’s done to RYDER is mentally destructive.

    now…if KOIVU’s line was producing at the pace of KOVY’s line, we WOULD BE CONTENDING FOR STANLEY THIS YEAR!

    and would at this point be about 8pts ahead of Ottawa.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  273. RH says:

    The secret, obviously, is to let them pot a couple of goals, then play catch-up.

    In all seriousness though, that’s almost exactly the way games went, against the leafs, last season. A goal, a penalty call against the Habs, and before you know it, the Habs were playing catch up the rest of the game. Those were the ones that gave me fits. I wouldn’t want to relive those games over again.

  274. habfan53 says:

    Off topic. Theodore had another strong game last night over his last 12 starts 1.83 gaa and .933 sv%
    I’m glad to see that he might be getting his game back

  275. The Teacher says:

    I’m not. he sucks. Funny how contract time is coming up.

  276. Maffu says:

    I’m not, just traded for Budaj in my fantasy league!

    GO HABS GO tonight. as was said before they need to stay out of the box and press the Laffs further into oblivion. Let it be them we grab first place in the conference with.

  277. The Teacher says:

    My friend in T.O. says we should be looking into Vaclav Prospal. I think he might have a point there.

    TSN Scouting Report seems like he fits what we are looking for in every way?


    -Sees the ice very well and gets the puck to an open man effectively. Plays intense hockey and doesn’t back down from a physical challenge. Can line up at both left wing or center.


    -Has lacked consistency over the years. At times, his instigating qualities can be detrimental to his team.
    Career potential Top six forward.

  278. 24 Cups says:

    Teach – are you talking about him strictly as a rental? His contract is up at the end of the year. He has had a remarkable career. He always alternates a good year with a bad year. 55-79-54-80-55-50(in 54 games). Next year is his lean year. Be careful.

    The Original 24 Cups

  279. The Teacher says:

    Nah, I don’t think so. McCabe always sucked ( a much crappier Sheldon Souray). Dion never has. Pretty safe bet to me.

  280. OldGrover says:

    Theodore has huge talent – he just didn’t use it after the first couple of years. He DOES have a Vezina. He has the talent – he just used to couple that with a great work ethic and lots of thought and research about the game.

    And then he stopped doing that. And talent alone doesn’t make you a number one goalie in this league.

    It does seem like he’s got his game back – working hard, has confidence and is getting results. I always liked him and was terribly disappointed when he went off the rails. I’m glad he’s back – I liked the guy – but I’m glad Montreal didn’t have to suffer through his recovery. Great trade by Gainey, even if he’s starting to come back the last few months of his contract.

  281. HAB-PROFESSOR says:


    “I’m sure there’s going to be enough fear in that locker-room going out to the ice that we need to compete a whole hell of a lot harder than we did last night,” said Maurice.

    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  282. moser17 says:

    I quite suspect that the gents score six goals tonight. I suspect Price allows no more than two.

  283. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    only six? and allowing two!

    be bold….I said 12-0
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  284. The Teacher says:

    Let’s goo Exxx-pooos

    soyons expositif!!!!

  285. HABZ 24 says:

    the leafs were pounded and embarressed,if they have any pride left theyll be ready tonight,so we better be ready and not take them as an easy in the bag win.higgy on the 4th line had to happen hes been struggling on the board.koivus been the same.ryder was dragging them down thats why hes out.if bobs going to make a trade it better be soon, the uncertainty hurts the players . go habs go

  286. Bean says:

    Oh, TSN . . . hyperbole is still your strongest suit.

    The breakup of the Leafs has begun as defensemen Andy Wozniewski has cleared waivers. (TSN)

    Right. Waiving a guy who’s only played bits & pieces of three seasons with the Leafs is totally BREAKING UP the team. Losing a real key piece here.

    Also, this is the beginning of their rebuild? Wake me if the real fire sale begins.

  287. moser17 says:

    Sundin is the heart of that team. Too many Laffs fans cry and moan for him to be traded. That’s smart only because it would clear cap room and bring in depth and players to build on/around, which is what Sundin himself sees. But that’s not how the fans cry and moan: from the comments on TSN and elsewhere you’d think they want the man lynched! That is no way to treat the only productive player in your hockey club. Sundin is a class act. Waiving his no-trade clause, in my opinion, is not an attempt to win a cup with a contender but in all liklihood is a selfless act to help the team he’s captained for 14 years. When HE goes, the breakup has begun.

  288. JF says:

    Dave, where oh where is this week’s puckcast?

  289. showey47 says:

    call up valentenko instead, instead of playing someone who hasn’t played defence all season.

  290. habfan53 says:

    Just listened to Murray Wilson on Hockey Central (in T.O.) and he said Ryder is definitely not playing tonight.

  291. The Teacher says:

    Couldn’t hurt to give the guy a shot and a chance to smell the big time!

    Apparently he is nasty and gritty as well?

  292. krob1000 says:

    Not enough time to get his equipment there.

  293. showey47 says:

    It would be much better than having dandy back there

    “to you from failing hands we pass the torch, be yours to hold it high”

  294. Ed says:

    Good one! I assume it’s based on Locke’s experience.

  295. Chuck says:

    I paid particular attention to Valentenko last night here in Hamilton. He like to throw is weight around, that’s for sure. He also wears the most useless visor that I’ve ever seen: 90% of it is tucked up over his helmet so that he doesn’t even have to look through it when he’s bent over. He’s an eye injury waiting to happen.

    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  296. habfan53 says:

    Chuck can you tell me if Jon Gleed has been playing? I know his +/- is up there but he has also been shuffled back and for to Cincinati.
    He was O’Byrne d-partner at Cornell.

  297. Chuck says:

    Gleed played last night. He looked to have a pretty solid game, with time on both the power play and the penalty kill.


    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  298. coutNY says:

    Chuck half the NHL doesn’t even wear Eye protection. It’s probably just enough to satisfy the rules. Komi doesn’t wear one… and leads in blocked shots. Not condoning it, but to each his own!

  299. habfan53 says:

    Thanks I’m glad to hear it

  300. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Ryder ,redeem yourself if you get the chance tonite!!!

  301. moser17 says:

    LOL! That is bold, all right. I hope you’re right! (and in truth, I would have predicted a goose egg for Price but I’m superstitious about those calls …. well, like Michael Scott, I’m not superstitious but I am a little stitious).

  302. Scotty90 says:

    I hope they score a bunch…I have 5 Habs in my Fantasy pool…. Kovy, Markov, Streit, Kosti1 and Higgy (who I just benched last week).

  303. The Teacher says:

    Yes. At any rate he’ll be better for us on and off the ice regarding the cap.

    His return value will also be less costly than trying to get a top tier player.

  304. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    Leafs TV just showed the past LEAF HAB game which the Habs clearly DESTROYED THEM….hardly let them touch the puck.

    RYDER really stood out…and so did CHIP, BOULION was hitting everything, and HAMR was solid.

    Boys better have their skates sharp tonight…
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  305. Richard B says:

    I read below that Ryder is in?
    Is that correct?
    Wonder where he will play…D?
    Hopefully they will let him play with either Higgy or Koivu.
    Please lord not Dandy and Smokes.

  306. downeast hab says:

    Ryder is sitting again, They would let someone play on crutches before Ryder would get a chance.He should soon tell them to make a choice, and stop using him as a scapegoat. He is not the worse one on the team, unless you have horse winkers on.

  307. MNaslund26 says:

    i am so confused. are we watching the hockey subway or the hockey molson? or are we watching the hockey de ford?? fan depuis 1903? 1903- remember when cars and salted meats had nothing to do with le hockey?

  308. Shiloh says:

    You are absolutely right. Ryder should be in. This must be a problem Carbonneau has with him.

  309. HJ says:

    habs better get their D playing better, and start skating, or it will be an embarrassing loss to the leafs. I fear the habs will lose this game because they took the leafs too lightly and looking ahead.

  310. Shiloh says:

    But he still goes down too quickly – or maybe that’s his butterfly style. It doesn’t look right to me.

  311. Shiloh says:

    We’ve stopped skating – we are barely touching the puck. And Price was on his knees and way back in his net when Tucker scored. Latendresse – please watch him. He can’t keep up to the play.

  312. Habitant-Kyle says:

    I say again. Get him off the team, Latendresse is an emarassment to the franchise

  313. MNaslund26 says:

    we just don’t look like we can do anything tonight. hope ottawa is having as much trouble as us…

  314. MNaslund26 says:

    apparently not. they just took the lead against the panthers…

  315. Shiloh says:

    I hope the Leafs win about 7 – 1. Carbonneau is cutting off his nose to spite his face. Ryder should dress and useless (pathetically useless) Latendresse should get his turn in the stands – or better, in Hamilton. Why do we handicap ourselves night after night by ruining a line with a guy on one of the wings who can’t keep up? He can’t score unless it’s dished to him and he is too slow to hit anybody. Koivu needs somebody with speed along side of him. Higgins looks like he’s gained weight or something.

  316. habsgod says:


  317. MNaslund26 says:

    uh, the only reason it isnt 7-1 is because of carey price. none of those goals were his fault.

  318. The Teacher says:

    umm ok. lol

    overreacting aren’t we?

  319. habsgod says:

    this is bloody pathetic losing to the laffs!we should be killing these guys!if ryder is going to play here anymore gainey get us hossa he has speed!latendresse is terribly slow get bouillon and brisebois off of this team!please hamrlik ,and o’byrne hurry back these to stiffs are killing me!!f^^^k come on guys!skate this team we are plying is slow as molasses!put the cristowal in for the third period !

  320. habsgod says:

    are you watching the game?the first 2 goals were brutal if he’s standing up on those it’s 1-1 right now!

  321. downeast hab says:

    looking like we are not going to hear that na na na song. whatever it means anyway. That bob cole would turn a horse from his oats the way he broadcasts. He must have is leafs g-string on.

  322. habsgod says:

    well right now huet is better look at the stats!higgins and koivu should play harder but if not i agree they should sit but i think unfortunately that ryder is done on this team and that’s too bad!!if that’s the case like i said earlier in my post get us hossa somebody with speed!

  323. habsgod says:

    brisebois you idiot do us a favor and retire you are a terrible hockey player

  324. habsgod says:

    nice goal kovy!!!!!

  325. PGHABS says:

    we just lost to the leafs. pathetic. our powerplay didn’t score tonight. thats the reason we lost. and brisebois

  326. HJ says:

    habs should be thoroughly embarrassed losing to the leafs! HABS NEVER EVER EVER PLAY FOR 60 MINUTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  327. Shiloh says:

    I’m done watching them for a few weeks. When Latendresse sits, I’ll tune in again. We are handicapping ourselves by favouring a very untalented player who badly needs to develop his limited skills in the minors. We have rendered Ryder virtually worthless in a trade. We have Price flopping on almost every shot and Chipchura banished when he should be up. Dandenault does not contribute – Smolinski has lost a step as well. Carbonneau is not coaching well at this time – he has to reward talent instead of carrying grudges.

  328. PGHABS says:

    we need to get a second line going, kovalev is completely carring this team offensively. higgins and koivu need to play like the stars they are.
    go habs

  329. habsgod says:

    this is bloody embrassing!losing to an a.h.l. team!carbonneau get these guys on the ice at 5 a.m.and skate them for 2hours hard without pucks!!gui laslownesse should be on the 4th line!man is this guy slow!koivu what the hell were you doing on the laffs last goal!markov tried to pass it to you and again you were a sleep!wake up koivu or ask to be traded because your brutal!!

  330. habsgod says:

    koivu should be gone what a terrible captain

  331. MNaslund26 says:

    i was logging on to say just that. with only one offensive line, this team is going to have problems.
    where is koivu and higgins? koivu hasn’t played well in weeks. neither has higgins. anyway, the panthers are tied with the sens in the third. go panthers. i guess.

  332. The Teacher says:

    We must have a really good bandwagon maker, is all I have to say.

  333. gumper says:

    A game like this always brings out the blamers. It was Brisebois, it was Koivu, it was Price. It was Carbonneau. This absolutely was a team loss. No one was sharp. Passes were lame and off the mark. Players were either mishandling the puck, or overhandling it. Point men were consistently too slow in getting the shot away. Add to that a Leafs team that was embarrassed in its last outing and a Habs team that has started to believe in its own publicity. Seems like everybody better take a long look in the mirror before hopping the bus to Ottawa.

  334. Hockey11 says:

    Dandenault barely played, he has more goals than all the other 3-4 line players, what’s your problem? Lapierre is a play murderer and he’s all we see in the third. Begin takes an idiotic penalty and gets rewarded with a shift as soon as he is out of the box, nice message coach. Dandy played the least number of minutes on the entire team and he had the same number of shots as both Kostitstyn’s combined, what did they do in 31 minutes combined vs Dandy’s 9 mins. What game are you people watching?

  335. habsgod says:


  336. The Teacher says:



  337. Hockey11 says:

    Gumper good call, the puck was no one’s friend tonite except Kovy. Lapierre had a bad game and the D struggled big time. Too much line shuffling, no rhythm, and we miss Hammer.

  338. The Teacher says:

    Jump off?

  339. T-roy West says:

    Holy crap guys. Leave your living room. Go outside. Get some fresh air. Come back in and kiss your wife, girlfriend or your boyfriend (if that is your taste) and relax. By now Gainey and Carb’s know what has to be done and I am sure that in the next two weeks they will do it. Relax, it is just one game (even though it was to the laffs) and we need to get ready for saturday. If I was Paul Maurice I would be pissed because it seems that million dollar players decide which games they want to play hard against and which ones they don’t. Pathetic! At least Montreal has been pretty consistent this year except for not playing for the full sixty minutes!

  340. tony d says:

    great blog gumper and well stated
    you win as a team, ya lose as a team
    even with the goal, players like Kovalev were trying too much, instead of keeping it simple
    too confident, I don’t know, not much help from the 4th line, very sad indeed

  341. Chuck says:

    Great shocks on this thing…

    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  342. Shiloh says:

    I’m not blaming Price – he was OK – but he does go down too quickly and too often. You’re right about the D.

  343. WestHab says:

    I only saw about half the game. The team wasn’t moving for some reason. It always sucks to lose to the leafs. But it’s just a bad game. The Habs have rebounded after bad losed before and I expect that to happen again.

  344. Chuck says:

    And the fact that we played a good solid 20 minutes of hockey.

    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  345. The Teacher says:

    I need to go into business manufacturing them! Think of all the business I’d get in Montreal with these freaking potholes.

    Our tax dollars- bob Cole, Greg millen, and 10 Montreal city workers sleeping in the back of their truck.

    (Maybe they took 10 Habs players with them today?) Blue collar mentality is right!

  346. Spartan117 says:

    Whats the point of smack talking leaf fans if the team loses to them….pitiful effort by everyone (save kovalev/plecs/kostisyn)
    comeon les boys gotta win saturday

  347. Corio says:

    Extremely embarrassing game, I can’t believe how weak we looked out there. Not sure why we sucked so bad but that was just a waste of 2 easy points..

  348. HJ says:


  349. T-roy West says:

    Teacher, you are 100% correct. Jump on, jump off, jump on, jump off. Guy’s at work were discussing habs fans and the over all concensus was that when we win were going to win the cup and win we lose one then everyone sucks and fire the coach. I couldn’t argue with them because it is true. The bright side guys is that changes will be made because management will not tolerate lazy efforts for long. Cheers!

  350. Chuck says:

    You just answered your own question. For forty minutes the Habs treated the game like it was going to be two easy points… and got burned.

    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  351. T-roy West says:

    Hey, I’ll be the first guy to say that the last game against Ottawa we would have most likely have lost if Heatley and Alfredsson had been playing. Actually I think I was the first. Saturday will be a big game.

  352. mrstewart61 says:

    lose, not loose

  353. PGHABS says:

    i’ll see you back on the bandwagon after the next win

  354. HotHabs says:

    I’m not clear on where all the jumping on and off is coming from. I think fans want a winner, but we see varying degrees of weakness in the team so we talk about them. Critique and idea swapping is not “bandwagoning” (if there were such a word). I don’t think anyone would argue that this team has it all together and doesn’t need anything more to win and go deep in the playoffs. Come on, people! Take off the rose colored glasses and realize this team is good but not amazing … yet! We point out the good points and the bad ones. So what? Does that make you a bad fan? I think not.

    This site is where we cheer together and cry in our beer together…

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  355. HotHabs says:

    Here’s what I’ll mark on my calendar this Sat.:

    “Must watch Habs vs. Sens today. Oh, and The Twill has a 50% chance of being wrong and a 50% chance of being right.” :-)

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  356. Shiloh says:

    Ok – a positive question: Should the coaching staff consider going to a 3-line rotation and only put the 4th line out to shake things up? Maybe Koivu, Higgins and Ryder would benefit from the added time and get out of the funk they’re in.

  357. idle says:

    It’s just speculation and a guess on my part but I can’t help but think if someone sat down with Koivu and asked him off the recored “what do you want” he would say, give me two linemates and a decent amount of ice time and leave us the f alone and don’t expect me to score 40 goals and 100 points a season.

    The last time Koivu was really playing well was late last season when the Habs were running for a playoff spot. He Higgins and Ryder were the line that was clicking then and scoring most of the points. But when the team was playing so badly in the middle of the season they were not producing, yet they remained together and worked through it. I am wondering if he just needs some consistent wingers to play with and to settle in. If they disappear for a few games, even a mildly lengthy slump, they just need to work through it. It seems like so many people want or expect him to be a 100 point player but he just is not and never has been. He is a 70 point guys and most 70 point guys play well and get lots of points at times but also disappear at times, that is why they are 70 point guys.

    All this line switching can make it hard to get out of a slump. I suspect some players just don’t respond well to it.

  358. Shobud says:

    Did any of you guy stop to think it might be all the line changing going on.. I watched very close tonight and other than Kovi’s line the rest are so mixed up they don’t know whos where.. They have to wait to make a pass and then its too late..Even Markov had trouble with passing tonight unless it was the Kovi line on there The rest of the guys don’t know if they are on the ice or in the box.. Compleatly lost out there..If Carbo does not leave some lines together then we are going down hill from here

  359. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    correct, it was a mistake to juggle the lines from ottawa to toronto…PURE IDIOTIC.

    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  360. The Teacher says:


    Carbo is a genius if he wins

    If we lose he should be exiled to Siberia.

    no wonder no one wants to play here.

  361. Habitant-Kyle says:

    Are you stupid, Carbo is a fantastic coach. Ya he makes little mistakes, but he will only get better.

  362. T-roy West says:

    He is a former captain of this team and a stanley cup winner and until tonight we were one game from taking over top spot in the eastern conference. Not bad for an idiot!

  363. Shobud says:

    I don’t think he is either.. He is a rookie coach and he is making mistakes.. Untill he learns to wait a bit before he makes changes this will happen

  364. Shobud says:

    I don’t think he is either.. He is a rookie coach and he is making mistakes.. Untill he learns to wait a bit before he makes changes this will happen

  365. HotHabs says:

    I think it’s more talent in development than lack of it. There’s a lot of young players on the team. They need time and experience, and juggling the lines too often will not help in the long run. Nevertheless, Carbo – much like his team for 40 minutes – didn’t show up and made some poor decisions late in the game.

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  366. RudeMood19 says:


    Realistically, the Habs won’t finish 1st. And that’s ok. They aren’t ready yet. They haven’t learned how to beat teams they should beat. They’re better than the Leafs. Everyone knows that. Leaf fans know that. The Leafs have this psychological edge over them and sometime the Habs cannot push through it.

    Prediction, I want the Habs to finish at least 4th, get home ice the first round and HOPEFULLY not play New Jersey. I’d rather face Philly than NJ.

    Big game on Saturday. Tonight’s game was heart-breaking, no doubt. But it happens. So f*** it and move on to talking about the next game.

    3 points behind Ottawa, a sh**load of games to go. As a consolation, they did play better in the 3rd.

    By the way, Price cannot be faulted for those goals. Newbury’s and Wellwood’s shots were very tough, and Tucker’s, no goalie would have stopped. That was Breezer’s fault.

    On to Saturday. GO HABS GO!

  367. idle says:

    I agree Rude. When this season started most sources were suggesting the Habs would not even make the playoffs. Us fans knew the team had a good chance but if we were honest we would probably expect them to be fighting for 6’th or 7’th place. I’m not sure at what point it has turned into the Habs having to finish first ahead of the Sens in order for this season to be a success. First place is a nice goal and good thing to push for, but I think home ice advantage in the playoffs and at very least a first round win would be a successful season for a team that did not make the playoffs last season and is growing into a contender.

    I would still be very disappointed in a second round loss but overall it would be a positive step forward.

  368. Shobud says:

    Is it just me or do I sence there are some people up tight on here LOL

  369. Xtrahabsfan says:


  370. The Teacher says:

    Wasn’t Higgins with Pleks and Akost for most of the end the year last year?

    But I digress.

  371. idle says:

    You may be right about that. I think it was the Koivu line that was playing so well at the start of the season, and maybe things were changed up after that horrible middle patch, but certainly he did not have different linemates almost every 2 games like he does now. Give him a bit of stability is my point and I don’t see why Higgins can’t stay with him for better or worse (or until a trade) since they have played very well together at least a couple of times in the past and neither seems to be able to take on new linemates and start some chemistry up.

  372. bidds55 says:

    What the heck is Koivu doing paying absolutely no attention to the play, when he is the sixth man, with the goalie pulled, with 30 seconds left in the game!??!?!?

    I hate to admit it, but I am starting to see Koivu as a concern. I don’t know if he has issues playing second fiddle to Kovalev, or if he is just getting worn down, but he has been invisible, and is starting to look like he doesn’t have it in him to work hard anymore.

    I just don’t understand what the heck Carbo is thinking sometimes. He found one good line, and everyone else is playing musical linemates – it’s awful. Everytime a line other than the Pleks – Akost – Kovy line finds a bit of chemistry, Carbo changes them!

    For those saying Latendresse doesn’t belong, you know nothing about the game of hockey – he is being misused by Carbo. When he is used properly, to screen the goalie, to work for the puck deep in the offensive end, and to finish checks on the forecheck, he does well, and scores goals. On this team, he is a second liner, and should be, because he is bigger, and stronger than any other forward on this team, except for Kovalev, and has tremendous hands around the net.

  373. Shobud says:

    Did you stop and think that might have come on his bad eye side

  374. mrstewart61 says:

    It’s not so bad, everyone. LA beat Detroit 5-3 with 4 third period goals!

  375. idle says:

    I’m goon go check out the Detroit forums to see what players are gonna be chased out of town over there. Maybe we can use some of them here.

  376. habsguy says:

    well said teacher, we have very fickel fans here..tee

  377. habsguy says:

    after watching Koivu tonight, especially in OT, do you think maybe he’s hurt or sick, it looked like he was heading off the ice when the puck was passed to him ??..just a thought?

  378. ColoradoHab says:

    Relax so called fans.

    Toronto was a very hungry team tonight and they earned a victory against one of the best teams in the league. Give them credit. They also beat Ottawa this week.
    Even Detroit loses once in a while.
    Price played great.
    Toskala played great.
    It was a great game and fun to watch. As a FAN, what more could you ask for?
    I am sick and tire of the Lantendresse bashing, he’s a Kid, and doing quite well. He is not supposed to carry the team, he is supposed to contribute and I think is is doing fine.
    I don’t know what is wrong with Koivu, I’ve always been a big fan, but he has really fallen off. Higgins is having a bad year and it continues. The effort is certainly there, but the results are not. Ryder has been blamed, but I think it has been more Koivu and Higgins. If they weren’t both struggling I think Ryder’s numbers would be where they usually are.
    Kovalev has been amazing this year.
    Plekanecs has been great this year.
    Komiserik has been awesome this year.
    A.Kostitsyn has been extremely good this year.
    Huet has been solid this year.
    Markov has been very good this year.
    Hamrlik has been steady this year.
    Streit has been good this year.
    Gorges is really starting to stand out, and he’s young.
    Also young are Latendresse, S. Kostitsyn, Price, and Lapierre.
    I’ve just mentioned 13 players. How many teams would like to have that? The only player I have mentiond above that I’ve seen criticized has been Latendresse and he is only 20 years old. Fools!!!
    Then we have Smolinski, Brisbois, Ryder, Kostopolous, Begin, Boullion, and Dandenault and they get criticized all the time. I think they are a pretty good supporting cast.

    A pretty good team has just been described above.

    But I forgot Koivu, Higgins and Ryder. Our top line from last year. If they find their way back we are not only contenders but could be among the favourites.

  379. mrstewart61 says:

    Where in Nova Scotia were you born?

  380. Shobud says:

    A very good post and very true

  381. Woah_Dana says:

    Great post.

    I am led to believe that even in a perfect hockey world where we won every single game, we’d still have people bitching about this & that.

    Don’t get me wrong – I’m a passionate Habs fan, have been following them since the age of four, & it kills me to see them lose against the Laffs.. especially since I’ve grown up & live on Maple Leafs territory. But I look at the big picture. In no way, shape or form did I expect us to be sitting in the top 4 slots of the conference/division, let alone fighting for first place! I know it’s frustrating right now, we’re all clearly very emotional when it comes to the Habs, but some people need to chill the eff out here. I’m happy to know that it’s only going to get better from here. The cup won’t be this year, but it’s not far away. So really, why cry about it?

    GO HABS!
    ~Sergei Kostitsyn, marry me!!

  382. Xtrahabsfan says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s developing another cataract and he seems to have lost his depth perception.

  383. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Price played a great game considering only Kovalev was infront of him,the kid did fine and made some great saves!

  384. HotHabs says:

    Good point. I didn’t like all the line juggling that Carbo was doing in practice (at least that’s what I read).

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  385. habsguy says:

    I thought that “vicious elbow” was awesome. Not quite as good as the one he laid out Tucker with though!!!

  386. TC says:

    I was just looking at the standings. There are currently only three teams in the NHL with more points than Montreal; Detroit, Dallas, & Ottawa.

    I think that if you would have told a Habs fan on October 1st that on February 8th that this would be the case; they would have been ecstatic.

    I think sometimes we have a tendency to place too much importance on single games in an 82 GAME SEASON. There are going to be good games, bad games, some you should win, some you should lose, some you deserve to win but don’t, some you don’t deserve to win but do.

    You can’t win all of them, and when you don’t win the sky isn’t falling. It is funny to see how some people get so high that they border on ridiculous (after the Ottawa game on Tuesday night), and then so low that they border on hysterical (after the Leafs game last night).

    It’s only one game!!!

    Don’t forget that the 76-77 Habs actually lost 8 games. Even the greatest team of all time wasn’t perfect every night.


  387. Ian G Cobb says:

    Your absolutely correct TC, there is only one who is perfect every night. And I know him best.!

  388. theflower says:

    The only thing, I want to say is this. No Hamrlik for 2 games and we have struggled in both. I think Hamrlik is a bigger dimension in this team than we think. He adds a sense of calmness on the back end that helps the whole team. We almost lost against Ottawa in the 3rd and we were outplayed for stretches against Toronto. All due to some defensive breakdowns. there is something to be said for us not having Hamrlik in the line up. Not saying it is the only reason we lost, but his presence is a substantial factor in my mind. We lose a lot of size with him not being on the ice as well.

  389. Ian G Cobb says:

    No question flower, our D is a little young yet and Hamrlic has been missed, I wonder if he plays against Ottawa.?

  390. Ed says:

    Hamrlik was -3 in the last game he played. That was the game where we led 3-0, but the Rangers acme back and won 5-3. Now, I am not saying it was all Hamrlik’s fault, but he sure did not help. Maybe he was already feeling the effects of the flu at that time, and that is why he did not play well. When he gets healthy, I am sure that he will get his A game back, and will help our Habs rebound from this mini slump we are in. Forgive my negative comments about him, because in reality, I agree with everything you said.

  391. HAB-PROFESSOR says:


    I’m so disgusted about losing to THOSE (insert derogatory, inflammatory word here) I wasn’t even going to comment…but after this article I must.

    I lifted this from the GAZETTE/ HICKEY and I believe it clearly shows the ROOT OF OUR PROBLEM.

    Christopher Higgins, who was bounced from line to line, said it was an old story on offence. He noted that one line continues to provide the scoring and it wasn’t one of the three lines he played on last night.

    “Until we get some secondary scoring from the other lines, we’re going to continue to have problems,” said Higgins, who had five shots.

    But head coach Guy Carbonneau had a different view on the Canadiens’ shortcomings. He feels they have strayed from their defensive style.

    “We’ve been allowing three goals, four goals tonight with the empty-netter, and that’s not our game,” he said. “Maybe, we’re trying too hard to get out of our slump, but if we play our game, if we concentrate on defence, the goals will come.”


    DID YOU HEAR THAT CARB!!!!!!….probably not so I’ll REPEAT.


    THATS 101!!!!!!!!!!!!! damn….

    and then it goes on to CARBS THEORY…that we have STRAYED from DEFENSE!
    does he mean his boy BREEZE has strayed from his defense position!
    we’ve won 10 of the last 13 games or something like that, WHAT DEFENSIVE PROBLEM DO WE HAVE?…he even counts the EMPTY NETTER!

    the guy is further destroying us, he already has composed 3 lines of DEFENSIVE TYPE forwards, watered down….and the only reason he doesn’t dismantle the KOVY line is because of KOVALEV, who I believe dictates that line…and their record shows it.

    Carb should be relegated to coaching 1 line….the 4th line.

    Now I understand what Lafleur was talking about…it wasn’t against the players, it was about the coaching.

    what kind of coaching did you expect from a defensive star.

    FURTHER PROOF, why is Ryder sitting and KOSTOP/BEGIN etc playing?


    Carb, some advise…yes setup a grinder checking line, but let the others go…let them skate with the wind…its not the 80’s

    thats right Carb…just let them go…let it go buddy…

    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  392. Ed says:

    Great post. Your point about Kovalev is excellent. I think that line is successful in spite of Carbonneau. It is because of Kovalev. Last year Kovalev said Carbonneau’s defensive style stifled the offensive players’ creativity. He received hell for saying it, so I think this year, he is just staying quiet, and has convinced his linemates to play his style. It sure has worked.

  393. Ian G Cobb says:

    Putting the puck in the net is but one dimension. And that is not lacking on this hockey club. Just look at last night for example, they got there goals on defensive breakdowns. Well rounded players get the big bucks. Hamrlic and Markov can do it all, paid well.!

  394. Shobud says:

    Ian…How can you know him when we have never met LOL

  395. Ian G Cobb says:

    I was referring to myself, but hot dam.! is there two of us.?

  396. ColoradoHab says:

    Do you ever have anything positive to say?

  397. idle says:

    Gees Timo, you act like the only time we get scored on is when Brezzer is on the ice. You are so narrow minded and it seems like all you can do is whine about how much you hate Carbo, Breezer and Lats.


  398. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    who cares if we let in 3 goals because we are playing a little firewagon but at the other end we score 5 or 6….thats the TRADE OFF.

    Carb has to look at THE STRENGTHS OF WHAT WE HAVE…all the way from the BELL CENTRE into the DOGS system and simply align those strengths…agendas aside as you state.

    I am convinced now that BRISBOIS has no honor…because those with Honor fall on their swords.

    He is holding up GREAT YOUNG talent. If he cared for the success of the team he would simply remain injured. Sure its a hard pill to swallow but he’s had a great run in his Hockey Career, have some class and stand behind the bench in your suit for the rest of the season.

    I don’t understand that after the ott game Carb is making headlines about shifting players around and that he is NEVER satisfied, that is BIG TIME IMMATURE TALK. Its not how you promote confidence. I am beginning to believe he has an inferiority complex, thinking that he has to TWEAK ALL THE TIME..put his PAWS on it. NO….have you ever made wine CARB?

    HAVE YOU EVER MADE WINE I SAY!!!!. you don’t go and shake it around every day….
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  399. PGHABS says:

    Some positives:
    Gorges played great
    Kovalev was completely dominating, the best player on the ice the whole game.
    Brisebois hit Tucker.
    Price made some great saves.

  400. G-Man says:

    What a crock of poo. Why are the players are never accountable? It is their lack of scoring that’s causing the problem. Why is Carbo responible for players who underachieve? He benches those who haven’t been performing, but u can’t bench the entire team save for 7 or 8 guys. The rest should look in the mirror.


  401. habfan53 says:

    Out of curiosity where in CO I have a sister outside Ft-Collins.

  402. habsguy says:

    TC…well said, exactly my thoughts..Plus if the team is this good with only one line, just imagine how good they’ll be when another one starts to click…..

  403. coutNY says:

    Thing is Kovy actually is playing great Defensively as a forward, so he is actually playing Carbo’s style of hockey. He’s been on the PK and done well for fact-sake. No one probably on any team he has ever played for could have imagined that. His puck control, vision, and disapline of not taking penalties has led to making him an all around player. He has taken his skill and has applied them to other facets of his game other than just in the Offensive zone. It may not be Carbo’s traditional tight wait for the other team to make mistakes type but more adapted to Kovy style which works for him.

    A big difference I have noticed in Koivu’s game is the Puck control area. His puck control last year was similar to that of Kovy’s, granted not as flashy granted, but as smart as I would argue. I think the lack of confidence, inconsistant line mates, and lack of line production has led other teams to pressure him more. And conversely he has been going on the Offense, taking more chances, playing the Lead BY Example role, which has led to more turnovers and more penalties. The pressure to “return to form” has only turned up the heat furthering him on that mission of becoming that one man show, which ws never his game. He’s an assist man with wingers playing their own version of the “one man show” trying to keep themselves out of hot water.

    It’s a team sport and will only find success being a team.

  404. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    not sure if he’s stayed quiet, but he sure has let the results speak!

    I’m sure there is something about that line that bugs carb but that should have been QUICKLY EVAPORATED LAST NIGHT when PLEK made that INCREDIBLE COMEBACK BACKCHECK on the laff breakaway.

    that line is the best in the NHL this season.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  405. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    Good analysis on KOVY….thats why he has now become the TOTAL player, and why i’ve declared in my signature that he is “at his PRIME”

    and I agree on your KOIVU analysis, and his puck control demise because of Confidence, rotating door linemates etc…

    why do we see this and CARB doesn’t….he must be thick headed, why doesn’t he just talk with KOIVU and see what he needs, let him pick his linemates.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  406. Bill says:

    So, the line is deliberately ignoring Carbonneau’s instructions, playing the way THEY want to and paying no attention to the coach? And that’s why they’re the only line that he hasn’t changed all year, I suppose? The idea that the team has succeeded in spite of the coach has been taken to an amazing extreme here: when you jumped off the bandwagon, I think you hit your head.

  407. Ed says:

    I never have, and never will jump off the Canadiens’ bandwagon. I am a fan forever. I did not realize that you were the type to get personal, but seeing that you think I hit my hit and this is the root cause of my problem as perceived by you, should I now call you Dr. Bill? Dr. Bill, get your eyes checked while you are at it. You say that I am saying the team is successful in spite of Carbonneau. That’s not what I said. Look again, and you will see that I referred to that line only, and you have to admit that no other line comes handy to them in offense, +/-, PP, PK, etc.

  408. showey47 says:

    Bulldogs play at home tonight, hopefully obyrne gets alot of ice down their and then flys to ottawa to play tomorrow. It was also evident last night how much we missed hamrlik and i hope he is back tomorrow. Something to think about, it was funny to watch sundin try to act like a tough guy last night against komisarek. Mats probably knows this is the last time he plays against him as a laff. Two of the last 4 games of the season are against the laffs, neither one will mean anything to either team. We will be in the playoffs and the laffs will be long out of the race.

  409. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    I wasn’t happy with the KOMI-SUNDIN incident last night….KOMI should have facewashed sundin…instead SUNDIN came out stronger for stepping in.

    wishful thinking for obryne…not CARBS style, i’m sure he’ll be down there for a few weeks or months….

    Carb has BREEZE…what does he need OBRYNE for.

    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  410. Habhopeful says:

    timo, for the past 3 games brisebois has played, he has been on the ice for one goal each game, one game against the islanders which we one 4-1, the next against ottawa where there were 3 goals scored against us and the next last night against the laffs where 4 goals were scored, so i’m guessing you have a big grudge against him, i understand hes not the greatest player on the ice but the loss last nite and the latest defense lapses were a team effort, in the last 12 games there have been a total of 32 goals scored against us and 7 of those games have been wins and 5 have been losses, now im not upset at the loss from last night, im more dissapointed which is entirely worse, what we need is MORE secondary scoring no matter who it’s from, because lately the only goals are from the PKK line and our defense (Streit and Markov) all our other lines were doing good before so im sure they could pick it up again eventually, we also need hammer and o’byrne back for big presence…Lets see how they rebound on saturday, hopefully they give it to em hard like ron jeremy on jenna jameson!

    “I still Believe…”

  411. habfan53 says:

    I think I have calmed down so that I can write sensibly.


    I guess I have’nt calmed down enough.

    How can the network of Foster Hewitt, Danny Gallivan, Dan Kelly, Don Chevrier and Don Whitman continue to employ this maroon????

    P.S. I might need a couple more hours before I can talk about the game itself

  412. TommyB says:

    Excellent piece, Robert!

  413. krob1000 says:

    I couldn’t possibly agree more with that entire article. Thank You.

  414. jrshabs1 says:

    The Hammer is the real M.V.P. of the team. If the Hammer doesn’t play the Canadiens do not play well. Bob had better trade for a couple of good tough Canadian boys if the Canadiens want to go deep in the playoffs, team Euro is flashy and quick but they go soft quick when other teams put the body to them. Price looked good lastnight, he stood on his feet alot more and looked brilliant at times.

  415. krob1000 says:

    Apparently Gainey is ruffling some Denver feathers. They stole a team and they got there knickers in a knot over this.

  416. krob1000 says:

    An old scouting report on this Trotter kid….I like what I hear although some will not because of his size but he sounds a lot like Plekanec.

    Since noone else cares to entertain right now I will also provide you folks with a link to Paul Stastny’s career stats page. Notice how similar his point totals were to Trotters just two seasons ago. This kid may end up being a steal.

  417. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    agreed, he blew it big time, he should have went beserk, there was no problem, the refs already had them tied up, so he should have facewashed and tugged Sundin to the ice, because thats all Sundin would have done anyway.

    Komi lost that tussle….and thats as bad as losing the game
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  418. 24 Cups says:

    kRob – I realize the Montreal Canadiens hold the world wide patent on small centres but I’m not sure we need another one in the immediate future. I also think it’s a little unfair to compare him to Stastny who is bigger and stronger. But the kid did come for free and we could always trade him down the road as part of a package deal.

    The Original 24 Cups

  419. krob1000 says:

    Only comparing the stats. Nothing else going on here this afternoon.

  420. Richard B says:

    did anyone else read that article on the Hossa deal? (see below)
    Very interesting.

  421. Bouleau noir says:

    This grabbing of Trotter happens only a few days after the CH hired Frank jay (director of scouting personel in OTT) from Ottawa,.. maybe Trotter had been on Jay’s hit list for a while and Gainey unlike Murray in Ottawa had good enouph reasons to go ahead about signing him.

    Trotter might have been obtained only to fill a role in the farm team,.. or maybe as a legetimate prospect for the big club….. who knows ?

    Trotter had good numbers in college but Corey lock had even better number while in Junior,… yet chances of seeing him with the CH are very slim.
    Ribeiro had better numbers while in junior than both of them and was able to display a big chunk of that potential in the NHL while with us,… its one thing for a player to have good numbers in the minors but its another thing to keep it up in the NHL…. and yet even another thing for the team who owned them to be wise about how to use them to their advantages…. I found it difficult to feel excited about some prospects when I see how our organisation can mismanage our actual rescources,… tossing Ribeiro away instantly anihilated our chances of acheiving the true scoring depth we could have had last season,… his departure is even more magnifyed now that Koivu’s efficiency is on the decline…. getting rid of Ribeiro was a waste of our own provision to compensate for such situation… it was a wreckless move by our GM and one that brought instant benefit for Dallas.

  422. krob1000 says:

    The interesting thing about the NCAA is that the players are older and stronger. The stats don’t come as easily all the time in the big schools. The kid hurt his achilles a couple years back and probably scared a lot of people off. He may never go anywhere but his write up says he is a two way player and very responsible and smart in his own end as well…..that already gives him a leg up on Locke.

  423. idle says:

    Are we watching Hockey or Wrestling? Clearly Sundin was trying to goat Komi into a penalty. If anything Sundin should have gotten a 2 min misconduct penalty. Like Bob Gainey said, at what point did it become necessary to react to every good clean hit in the game?

  424. idle says:

    How can you be so sensible in some of your posts and so out to lunch with others? A face wash? Is that what would have solved all our problems last night. Or maybe if he did go beserk like you wanted and got a penalty, maybe a suspension, I guess that would have taken the sting out of the loss? And maybe then every other player in the league would know that all you have to do to take Komi out of the game for at least a double minor is to pester him after he throws a good clean hit.

  425. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    why do you have to be so sensible ALL THE TIME…
    sometimes you have to go with the “energy posts”
    sometimes you throw logic out the window and just “Crush” the opposition!

    and losing to the leafs gets me in that frame of mind, especially when the grand daddy sundin ridicules our most potent checker…alot of the game is about reputation building, for the next opponent.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  426. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    True towards Gainey’s comment, but I don’t think Sundin was trying to lure KOMI to the box….SUNDIN was being a LEADER, and took exception to that thunderous hit on a ROOKIE, the type of hit that will side track your course in development, that rookie will think twice about free wheeling again, BUT in the back of his mind he knows that a LEADER is there for him, to back him up in rough times….THATS WHAT A LEADER DOES.

    so….there is logic even in brutality.


    remember, hockey is the most brutal sport on the planet.
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev… his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  427. idle says:

    Well just throw down like me and never be sensible, then we won’t notice the difference :)

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