Game 54: Habs hold on to close gap on Sens

Canadiens defenceman Mark Streit celebrates with teammate Alexei Kovalev after his second-period goal on Tuesday night at the Bell Centre.
Pierre Obendrauf, Gazette

Updated by The Gazette’s Kevin Mio

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It was a lot closer than it had to be, but the Canadiens managed to hold on for a 4-3 win over the Ottawa Senators at the Bell Centre on Tuesday night.

Ottawa jumped out to an early 1-0 lead when Chris Kelly scored only 2:42 into the game after Cristobal Huet mishandled the puck behind his net.

But the Habs rallied after that with goals by Andrei Kostitsyn, on the power play, and Tomas Plekanec before the first period was over to grab a 2-1 lead.

Mark Streit padded the Montreal lead when he scored with a slap shot that whistled over Martin Gerber’s shoulder for a 3-1 Canadiens lead eight minutes into the second period. Plekanec added his second of the game, and 19th of the season, at the midway point of the frame by banking a shot off Gerber’s shoulder from the side of the net.

As was the case on Sunday, the Habs let a three-goal lead slip away.

The Senators scored two quick goals in the third period to narrow the gap to 4-3. Jason Spezza scored less than three minutes into the period and Joe Corvo banked a shot off a Canadiens defender during a power play for Ottawa’s third goal.

But unlike Sunday, the Canadiens held their ground and maintained their lead.

The Sens outshot the Habs 29-26. Montreal went 2-for-4 on the power play, while Ottawa managed only one goal on four opportunities with the man advantage.

With the victory, the Canadiens close to within one point of the Senators for first place in the Northeast Division and the Eastern Conference. The two teams will meet again on Saturday, this time in Ottawa.

367 Comments

  1. N.B.habs fan says:

    Hey guys..check out The Blues on our goaldies ,,interesting.

  2. krob1000 says:

    Atlanta G.M. Waddell was at the game on Sunday http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/mtl080204.html…..so were several other scouts but given Hossa’s status I have read a viariety of rumours hinting at Hossa for Ryder, Dandenault or Bouillon and who knows what. Halak being sent down, Ryder in teh press box and Dandy being unhappy make this a possibility but there are just so many rumours now. These rumours are fun but as every day passes and we remain near the top of the standings I can’t help but think something big IS going to happen. I don’t know who but we are being linked to virtually every big name out there and there has to be some reason for that.

  3. Trashknob says:

    Thrashers just removed Hossa’s info from their website. The two GMs had a talk yesterday. I smell TRADE!!

    Hossa for Ryder and who?

    please update if you hear anything … is anyone looking into this?

    =========================================================================
    I got 40 to 1 odds they’d make it to the cup final at the beginning of the season. WHO’S LAUGHING NOW??? KO HABS KO!!

  4. Roy-Rules says:

    Does anyone have a link to be able to watch tonights game online? I live in Alberta and don’t get RDS.

  5. nick says:

    Hey – sorry to change the subject of tonights game, but i’ve been hearing alot of talk surrounding trades between Atlanta and Montreal. Originally i had hear talks of Ryder, but more and more i’m hearing Dandenaults name. Anyone hearing anything?

  6. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    Can’t believe we have Sergie Kosty locked up for 3 years at that price!
    give the kid a raise!
    ….cap room looks good moving forward
    http://nhlsalary.globesports.com/NHLSalaryData/globe/team-Mtl-salary.html
    ———
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  7. showey47 says:

    lol, good idea to do most of the drinking pre-game. My bro lives about 10 mins from the scotiabank place, if i can score some tickets i may go and have a place to crash to boot.

  8. coutNY says:

    Gets his cast off Friday probably a week or 2 over rehab there after before he will be available.

  9. Woah_Dana says:

    Exactly. I mean, if the Laffs can take out the Sens, I’d really have no fear. But Sunday instilled some fear in me & I hope it worked for the best in regards to the team.

    GO HABS!
    ~Sergei Kostitsyn, marry me!!

  10. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    I can’t believe some of the tree huggers on here saying that KOVY should have gotten a suspension!….PLAY SOME HOCKEY AND LEARN WHAT HAPPENS ON THE ICE!

    KOVY is OLD SCHOOL!
    ———
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  11. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    Go with 5 Defense.

    or SIMPLY RE-INSERT RYDER and MOVE STRIET BACK TO D.

    DO NOT INSERT BREEZE.
    ———
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  12. Habhopeful says:

    The Boxer on Emery’s Mask is George Chuvalo, an old retired Canadian Boxer, he originally had Tyson on it, but the league made him change it cause it was contraversial at the time because of his rape charges…

  13. Xtrahabsfan says:

    You can thank the Islanders for that one,spitting flu goo all over the rink.

  14. Corio says:

    I am only experiencing plain fear due to the insane loss against the Rangers.. talk about rocking the confidence foundations!

  15. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Agree 200%,that goon got his and no penilty call,lol……….

  16. Corio says:

    Where the hell is O’Byrne! :( SAY NO TO BRISEBOIS!

  17. JF says:

    RDS is reporting that Hamrlik could miss tonight’s game because of the flu. In that case I guess Brisebois would be back in the line-up.

  18. Woah_Dana says:

    Lol, pre-drinking my friend, come along!

    I’m definitely going to fill up before the game in Ottawa this Saturday, but I think I’m going to have ONE beer at the centre, just to enjoy a beer at a live hockey game. That’s if a Sens fan doesn’t throw one at me first.. :)

    GO HABS!
    ~Sergei Kostitsyn, marry me!!

  19. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    About Kovalev’s message (hullwig)….and the passion that we have to bring to the ice.

    What Kovalev did was PERFECT. IT WAS HOCKEY 101…that is what you do to those ANIMALS.

    Kovalev should get a medal for that.

    Its called defending yourself, watching on TV you don’t see or hear a fraction of what happens on the ice…and what led up to that.

    Its not the first time that KOVY has sent a message, don’t Fu** with me.

    Gainey and Lafleur did that same hit ONE MILLION TIMES in their careers.
    ———
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  20. G-Man says:

    Amen, brother.

    Gilbert

  21. showey47 says:

    lmfao, thats an expensive drunk at $9.50 a beer.

  22. Woah_Dana says:

    Probably ’cause they’re all half in the bag & can’t tell time.

    GO HABS!
    ~Sergei Kostitsyn, marry me!!

  23. Woah_Dana says:

    Habsolutely. You can’t gel as a line without figuring out eachothesr strengths & weaknesses & getting a feel for the players your skating with. If something goes wrong, you remember it for next time. How can you do that when NEXT time, you’re skating with a different crew & have to learn all over again? It’s got to be stressful on the players.

    GO HABS!
    ~Sergei Kostitsyn, marry me!!

  24. 24 Cups says:

    Dana – I would also like to see Carbo leave the lines intact for the entire game. Don’t keep shuffling the deck of cards at the first sign of duress.

    The Original 24 Cups

  25. showey47 says:

    i hate it when the bell center fans start singing that song, why can’t they just wait till the game is over?

  26. Woah_Dana says:

    That song is a jinx. We should all watch the game with hockey tape over our mouths until there are only seconds left. I’m sure it would be better for the youth surrounding us, too. I know the ‘F’ words were flying in my house on Sunday afternoon. I can just imagine the BC.

    GO HABS!
    ~Sergei Kostitsyn, marry me!!

  27. JF says:

    I think if they didn’t learn that lesson Sunday, they won’t any time soon.

  28. Woah_Dana says:

    Likewise. It would be nice if Carbo had a closed door meeting in parallel.
    Last time we *almost* beat Ottawa we got too comfortable with a two goal lead & guess what happened as a result?
    We need to skate at full speed for the full 60 minutes & Huet needs to get ready to breakdance & stand on his head.

    If Sunday afternoon didn’t serve as a lesson, I don’t know what will.

    GO HABS!
    ~Sergei Kostitsyn, marry me!!

  29. projectpete19 says:

    Here is the link http://forums.atlantathrashers.com/index.php?showtopic=17190

    Two other players will also removed so im not sure if it means anything

  30. HJ says:

    so is Brisecrap playing tonight? if he is, let the booing begin!

  31. showey47 says:

    I’m excited but also concerned that the players may take this one too lightly because alfredsson and heatly won’t be there. I just hope there was a serious lesson learned sunday afternoon

  32. krob1000 says:

    You could be very right. One of the other teams also rumoured to be interested in Hossa is the Rangers. Waddell got a two for one. I am sure there at least five serious possibilities Atlanta is looking at as you said.

  33. Woah_Dana says:

    I’m really looking forward to tonight’s game – I totally have butterflies in my stomach. Anyone else experiencing this? lol..

    We CAN & we WILL do this!!!!

    GO HABS!
    ~Sergei Kostitsyn, marry me!!

  34. Woah_Dana says:

    Oh man, I have to admit watching that video is bittersweet. It’s horrible to see little Kosti rammed into the glass by Hollweg, from behind not to mention.. but it’s so beautiful when you see all those red-clad men jump his ass! What a band of brothers! It makes me feel all warm & fuzzy inside!

    GO HABS!
    ~Sergei Kostitsyn, marry me!!

  35. Woah_Dana says:

    Tres cool! Hope you make it! Me & my dad (TommyB) are driving from the Niagara Falls area. We’re crazy. Haha.

    GO HABS!
    ~Sergei Kostitsyn, marry me!!

  36. RS says:

    I could be wrong, but I thought that he now has Muhammad Ali on his mask. But he did have Tyson before. I think at one point he had Jack Johnson on his mask. I’m not a boxing fan, but I certainly respect Ali and Johnson for more than their boxing skills. Putting Tyson in the same category is rather dubious.

  37. 24 Cups says:

    Don’t worry about it – this is just a silly story from the Sun chain of newspapers that has no validity behind it whatsoever. It was also in the Toronto Sun on Sunday. The hockey writers needed to compete for space with the Super Bowl hoopla.

    The Original 24 Cups

  38. coutNY says:

    For fact-rattling-sake Laffs facing a No. 2 goalie around 40% of their games this season.

  39. Bill H says:

    Bang on mjames. #1 – #4 are absolutely correct. BG doesn’t have a history of signing rental players or giving away draft picks. So I really don’t think we have to worry about this one.

  40. mjames says:

    Gainey should be fired if he ever made such a one way trade. This would go down as one of the worst trades ever by the Habs. If you think Nashville and Atlanta got fleeced last year this would trade would be worse.

    (1) MCDonough is your top 4 D man that every one has been screaming for. He is supposed to be a cross between Markov and Komi.
    (2)This year’s draft is supposed to be the best in years.
    (3) Higgins will be at least a 30 goal scorer during his career, plus he is a character guy.
    (4) Even if we could keep Sundin, he would ruin our salary structure remembering we need money to sign all our other UFA.

    mjames

  41. Puck Bard says:

    I wouldn’t be looking for an easy win tonight. Remember when Sid was out of the lineup?

    That went well.

  42. RH says:

    I’m not sure what you’re trying to say. Can you find a link that will show Emery’s mask? Maybe then, I could figure out what you’re point is. Or, you could just tell me.

  43. RH says:

    I hate to say it but, even I’m getting frustrated with his lack of production. Alas, my man Ryder, will ultimately be relegated to eating hot dogs again, tonight. Such a waste of a wicked shot.

  44. RH says:

    I think the freezing weather, in that city, has frozen the brains of those at the Sun.

  45. mrstewart61 says:

    IMHO, too much to give away for a rental player. Then next year Toronto will have Sundin, Higgins, McDonough and another.

  46. stephen says:

    For what could ultimately (likely?) be a rental, there is no way I would give up Higgins and/or McDonough.

    Sundin is brilliant, but he is also nearing the end of his career, and could very well sign back with the Leafs in the summer.

    Higgins, McDonough, and a 1st rounder is far too much to give up on what might amount to be a few months of Sundin’s employment. Even if, for whatever reason, Sundin were to sign an extension with the Habs, I still feel his time with the team would not offset the loss of Higgins, etc.

    The Habs in the potential sweepstakes is an intriguing prospect, though…

  47. Ironfist says:

    What does everyone think of this? Taken from Sunday’s Edmonton Sun:

    Toronto C Mats Sundin to Montreal for LW Chris Higgins, prospect C Ryan McDonough and a No. 1 pick in 2008: Leafs Nation might think this is nuts, but if Sundin approves a trade, don’t rule out the Habs being in on the sweepstakes. Interim Leafs GM Cliff Fletcher has a strong relationship with Habs counterpart Bob Gainey and wouldn’t be afraid to move the captain to a Northeast Division rival. Higgins would give the Leafs some immediate help, McDonough, Montreal’s top pick in 2007, is a strong prospect and the No. 1 pick could fill a need.

  48. rogus says:

    Nah, it’s actually EMERY! He’s reliving the moment when he ran that 60 year old man off the road last summer!

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/morrison/2007/12/ray_emery_saga_continues_on.html

  49. Sulemaan says:

    Timo, we could dress 12 defensemen and I’d still want to sit Brisebois.
    Even if it meant calling up (Carle, Valentenko, Bouchard, Subban, McDonough, Fischer and some guy from the ECHL).

  50. Trashknob says:

    I’m not normally one to give much of any credence to rumours (seriously) but this one is VERY interesting. I just heard Marinaro mention something on the Team to boot – not that that means anything either, mind you…

    For one it makes sense if the Habs have been able to speak with him to insure resigning him after this season. Gainey’s gotta be thinking about post-kovalev in addition to this year. Hossa is 28 and could be with us for the next few years as Kovy and Koivu either die down or leave. Everyone knows he’d be a GREAT fit with this team right now. Plus the Thrashers probably want to make up for last season’s trade deadline debacle. If they ain’t signing Hossa and they KNOW it – they’re DEFINITELY moving him for young talent they can keep.

    If this happens, I say look for O’Byrne, Ryder, and another prospect to be thrown in. I sincerely hope we hold on to Higgins though.

    =========================================================================
    I got 40 to 1 odds they’d make it to the cup final at the beginning of the season. WHO’S LAUGHING NOW??? KO HABS KO!!

  51. Chuck says:

    Why? He hasn’t done anything wrong tonight. If he screws up, then feel free to let im have it.
    .
    .
    .

    ______________________________________
    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  52. mrstewart61 says:

    I think it would be best for him and the team. I wish he was playing as a 30 goal scorer this year, but that doesn’t look like it’s gonna happen.

  53. Cable Guy says:

    There’s no way Gainey would make that trade.

  54. downeast hab says:

    I hope Ryder is put back in the lineup tonight,mainly to relish is last few games in a Montreal sweater.it appears in all likelyhood he will be traded by the deadline.I am a fan of the habs and also of Ryder, but I have come to relize that he doesnt fit into Carbos plans.And rather than see him dwindled down to the role that he is playing now,I would like to see what he would accomplish with a team that would give him another chance. I will use an example of another Newfoundland player by the name of Cleary. He started off good, then went into a rout, but with a different coaching system he has found is form again with Detroit.Maybe Ryder will follow the same fate.

  55. Guy21 says:

    I find it hard to believe that anyone could have the ‘Dog’ as his hero…..ie Emery using Tyson on his mask. Take your time and put all the letters in each word…(your is only four letters)……its hard for us old folks to head that kind of typing.

    GO HABS GO

  56. G-Man says:

    I don’t think there will be any danger of the Habs easing up on the gas pedal tonight. Should be a hard fought 4-2 win, but you never know with that bleeping Neil. He produces zilch against most clubs, but has multiple point games against us. I hope that Huet is ready and able, not tired and out of gas. He is just plain playing too much.

    Gilbert

  57. idle says:

    Why does Plek lose his spot?

  58. rogus says:

    Buy the french package on Express-vu, it comes with RDS. $5/month

  59. Bill H says:

    LOL Kovy and a draft pick? You’ve got to be kidding. Hossa’s playoff record is about 0.5 points a game. He is not a playoff performer. And he is a rental only. You want to trade Kovy, who is under contract through next season, and a draft pick, for a rental playoff underperformer? It’ll never happen. I’m grateful BG has more sense than that.

  60. rogus says:

    Better off putting Dandy on the line and playing Ryder…

  61. rogus says:

    Olli would surely answer many needs, but could you imagine Koivu, SK74, and Hossa on a line???

  62. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    My mistake…Streit should be on D and that opens for Latron on the 3rd.
    ———
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  63. nick says:

    I with ya – i’d love to see Jokinen in Habs red.

    Even if we end up with Hossa, Despite his offensive talent… there’s still going to be plenty of people saying we need bigger forwards/center, a more physical presence…etc…etc…etc

  64. Xtrahabsfan says:

    No Latendresse?

  65. krob1000 says:

    2 birds with one stone.

  66. nightmare_49 says:

    Seeing the game on Sunday was the only game in the NHL and being coach doesn’t give Waddell much time to scout and who knows if he was checking the Habs more than he was checking the Rangers who have a lot more to offer with names like Rosenval , Avery , Malek , Jagr to name a few who have been mentioned in trades due to their statis with the Rangers. Time will tell.

  67. krob1000 says:

    Likely…yes…..but we also thought Sergei Kostitsyn was for down the road. Brunnstrom is born in 1985 so he would be worth giving a shot for a team down the stretch. He is supposedy physically ready but there would have to be an adaptation to the North American game. Nicklas Backstrom has fit right in and he is smaller than Brunnstrom I believe.

  68. krob1000 says:

    Likely…yes…..but we also thought Sergei Kostitsyn was for down the road. Brunnstrom is born in 1985 so he would be worth giving a shot for a team down the stretch. He is supposedy physically ready but there would have to be an adaptation to the North American game. Nicklas Backstrom has fit right in and he is smaller than Brunnstrom I believe.

  69. huge_polar_bear says:

    It’s also on RDS. Second game in a row. Everyone is talking Hossa lately but I think I would prefer if Gainey went to get Jokinen. But of course Bob will do something no one forsaw as usual… or he will stand pat.

    http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/245168.html

  70. showey47 says:

    eric engels, the habs blogger from hockeybuzz.com has posted that ryder is not playing tonight. Let the speculation continue

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/boards/thread.php?thread_id=34967&page=3

  71. 24 Cups says:

    Brunnstrom would be for down the road – he wouldn’t be able to walk in and help this year. As for Hossa, if we sign him I would think it would have to be for 4 or 5 years at close to $8 mil a year. That’s not a problem right now or even next year. Eventually it would mean that the Habs would have to cut salary. One of the following people likely would be leaving town: Huet, Higgins, Kovalev, Koivu etc.

    The Original 24 Cups

  72. nightmare_49 says:

    The conducter of the Stockholm Phillarmonic Orchestra.

  73. Wops says:

    Congrats to Josh Gorges, I’m starting to like the guy. solid on the 3rd pair, and can step up is game when replacing missing D-man

    Last Game. 21.53 minutes played, 1 shot, +1, 3 blocked shot.

    and he is only 23.

    I love how he goes in the corners, he doesn’t shy away like Brisebois, he accepts the hits. Feet always moving.

    Congrats, Keep it up.

    The Rivet trade (Pacioretty and Gorges) looks better and better…

    Bob, sign him 3year 2.4-3.0 millions. Brings solid depth to the d-corps
    _______________________________________
    CH is for Chris Higgins

  74. 24 Cups says:

    coutNY – Cleary @ 3-4 mil, sorry I couldn’t see paying that much. Maybe $3 mil per year for 3 years. I’ll keep beating the bushes.

    The Original 24 Cups

  75. The Teacher says:

    Wow, I realize he’s playing good. But you’re kinda quick to throw the money around!!

  76. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    we won’t suffer through 15 years of mediocrity by losing 1 prospect and a draft pick…we are not selling the future wholesale, just looking for ONE piece of the puzzle that hopefully IGNITES KOIVU…thereby giving us 2 lines that threaten.

    And if we make a decent run, then why wouldn’t this “missing Piece” then be worked into our long term plans?, I’m sure Gainey (and the success of a playoff run) will twist his arm.
    ———
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  77. mrstewart61 says:

    I thought he should have been one of the three stars, in place of Pleks. Granted Pleks had three points, but Kovy and AK did most of the work.

  78. Forlando says:

    Ummm…Listen with the team we have, I have to admit Carbo knows what he is doing…because not many people (including myself) thought we were going to be where we presently are…of course the players have done their part (with some exceptions…ahem Ryder) but credit must be given to Carbo. He is the man of the moment.

  79. Alex Rio says:

    I love that. In Bob We Trust.

    On sunday vs the Rangers i had the best tickets in the bell. Right between the benches where the players come out…1st row behind!!!!
    This is the second time that we let another team comeback. We need more Kostitsency.

    Beat on the leafs, the sens, rangers!
    We can pick up 100pts with this rate. Its been a while!

    Alex

  80. mrstewart61 says:

    My sister’s husband’s cousin, who used to work with a guy who dated a girl whose brother worked at the Bell centre, said… ;)

  81. coutNY says:

    I would hate to see what your giveing A~Kost or Streit at the rate your given to Gorges!

  82. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    your using the analogy that KOVALEV IGNITED KOVALEV…via Gainey’s talk.

    Yes but you still need chemistry with your linemates to play your best..a SYSTEM…Koivu’s line has NO SYSTEM, hard work, yes, but NO SYSTEM.
    ———
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  83. Wops says:

    No more than Komi, Komi is at 1.4 and 1.9 next year. And will get a contract around 4millions after à la Robyn Regher…

    I said 2.4 to 3.millions for three years, that makes him at 800,000 or 1million a year.
    _______________________________________
    CH is for Chris Higgins

  84. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    ownership in LIVERPOOL…
    ———
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  85. coutNY says:

    From the sound of it, It’s a losing venture… I would have to advise against it if I were their agents..

    Apologize to the posters below… for sounding like a parrot, but at least most of us are on the same page.

  86. Wops says:

    No doubt Kostits and Streit will command lot higher than 800 000 or 1million a year.

    I don’t know if we will be able to keep streit, he is up for a big raise.

    For kostit, it is time for a long term contract, 6 years or so.
    _______________________________________
    CH is for Chris Higgins

  87. Wops says:

    Clarification for everybody who thinks I said 2.4-3 million a year for Gorges… No no no!

    I said 2.4 to 3.millions for three years, that makes him at 800,000 or 1million a year
    _______________________________________
    CH is for Chris Higgins

  88. Scotty90 says:

    If a trade will be happening…. I think Jokinen would be the best fit, and could be what Saku needs to get his play back. Two birds with one stone! and of course, if Saku starts going again… Higgy would probably follow suit.. you gotta love it. Who would we part ways with?… well I think Ryder is a good start (not that I don’t like him, but he’s not worth the money he’s paid and sitting in th epress box eating hot dogs doesn’t win games), Halak, a prospect (Fisher?) and a first round pick! That of course, if we could sign Oli to a multi year contract.

  89. Bill H says:

    No question that Jokinen is the better fit for the Habs. The more important question though, is what would we have to give up to get him? If we could get him for spare parts, we should go for it. I’d part with Ryder, one or two expendables like Dandenault, Kostopoulos or Bouillon, and one or two prospects like Perezhogin, Yemelin, Locke, maybe Grabs. But when you start talking about Higgins, I start shaking my head. He will shake the slump.

  90. coutNY says:

    Sorry, Wops that makes a hell of a lot more sense! I hope we can get that done… but there is a lot of time for to sign him. He’s a great skater and gives forwards a heck of time in front of the net despite his small stature.

  91. habfan53 says:

    Florida is not going to want a goalie the have Vokoun.
    They will want one or two skaters plus a prospect. They will probably want at least one of the following. Either Kotstisyn brother, Plekanec, Higgins, O’Byrne or 2 of the following Ryder, Latendresse,Georges, Chipchura, Lapierre plus Valitenko, McDonnagh Fisher.
    Whatever it is it won’t be cheap

  92. Forlando says:

    ouchies….Higgy will play in the 4th Line…

  93. Bill H says:

    Too much, but getting close. I’d give up Ryder and Lapierre, plus Valentenko and Fischer, but not McD. Try Locke or Grabs, then yes.

  94. krob1000 says:

    where are you getting that from???

  95. Scotty90 says:

    someone with crabs? maybe that’s what factoids’ problem is! its what happens when you’re in bed with the leafs.

  96. originalsix says:

    I heard the same thing, Higgins will be playing on the 4th line. Heard it on the Team 990 with PJ Stock about 40min ago.

    Although it’s entirely possible it may change come game day, who knows.

  97. habfan53 says:

    Bill the problem with that is Ryder is a UFA sitting in the press box,Lapierre right now is a 3rd liner, Locke can’t make it and Grabs needs more seasoning. Martin is not going to give him away

  98. coutNY says:

    I knew sooner or later someone would drop that NYR’s idiot Sean Avery, just didn’t think it would come from someone on his own team…LOL Hats off to MALIK with the TKO…

  99. krob1000 says:

    anyone know the combinations ….tell me it was ryder, kosty jr and koivu….PLEASE!!

  100. mjames says:

    I do not have problem if Koivu and Ryder are also on the 4th line. Seriously I have been silent on Carbo for the most par this year. However, if he is truly putting Higgins there, he is starting to mess with team chemistry. He is taking offense away from his team by splitting up the likes of Koivu, Ryder and Higgins. If he is thinking of putting Smolinki
    , Kosto or Dandy with Koivu and SK and sitting out Ryder then he is a bigger dolt than I thought.

    mjames

  101. Richard B says:

    I am in total agreement mr. James.
    …however, you can’t say Guy don’t make it interesting. Finding out the line up is always intreging before every game.
    You got to love a good debate on what the lines should be.

    On the other hand, they are 1 point off 1st in the East.

    Makes you wonder how that is possible with only one fwd line working.

    Not to answer my own question…but I think our four 5 star D and our 5 star goalie have something to do with it.
    lol…see if you can figure that out.

  102. Richard B says:

    Wow…that is an interesting idea
    Don’t think you will see that anytime soon though.

  103. Richard B says:

    Great point on the plus minus…
    at the beginning of the year…Ryder was being forced to improve the D…during that time the scoring slump started.

    Now every time he gets a chance on the ice he is too nervous and is always trying to force it into the net. There is no doubt in my mind…that Ryder’s lack of scoring is Guy’s fault.

    I think anyone would be nervous if they played each shift thinking that if they don’t score on this shift they may never get another chance. Its his life in the league he is nervous about…not just one bad season.

  104. habfan53 says:

    At 6’6 vs 5’10 I would hope he could hold his own.
    But like Renney said it’s now probably a dead issue. Fights in practice are normal at this time of year.
    It’s funny though 2 fights this week one with Avery the other with Emery kind of says something does’nt it

  105. mrstewart61 says:

    I agree he worked hard, but I thought Gorges was deserving of a star, so somebody would have to drop to fourth star. I guess I could give Gorges my unsung hero for the game award.

  106. Bill H says:

    LOL yes I completely agree with you habfan. That’s why I don’t think we should do a deal for Jokinen. It will cost too much. I was just responding to your post which was speculating what he would cost. McD could very well be a top 4 Dman in 4 years. The others are expendable, IMO. Ryder is worth next to nothing to us because he hasn’t made much of a contribution all year and he’d be crazy to resign with us next year. So he is gone anyway.

    Maybe I am being too conservative here. McD is only one defenseman who may or may not make the club. If he really was the difference in a trade with the above players that could bring Jokinen, maybe its worth giving up a top prospect because prospects don’t always pan out. We are deep in D-men with O’Byrne seemingly ready to be paired up with Hamrlik as a top 4 d-man. We’ve got Gorges who is developing nicely. Valentenko may be ready to join the Habs next year. Yemelin and Fischer in the pipeline.

    So with Jokinen, at age 29, possibly having many fruitful seasons with the Habs and providing a spark for Higgins and Koivu, yes, let me reconsider and put McD on my list of tradeables.

    I just believe, as I think BG does, in building through the draft and not trading away the future. I have confidence in the players in our system. But there are exceptions to every rule, and maybe Jokinen is worth it, if such a deal were possible. However, I would still not be willing to tinker with the core of the team, including Higgins.

  107. originalsix says:

    Here’s the story about the Malik vs Avery fight…for those interested.

    http://rangers.lohudblogs.com/2008/02/06/fireworks-at-practice/

  108. coutNY says:

    Or you could have clicked on Avery name highlighed in blue which is a link… from the original post?

  109. habfan53 says:

    I know. I believe in building from within as well but there is always that one piece that you need to go out and get. I love Higgins in the bleu blanc rouge and up to a month ago I thought he might even be the next captain. The other reason I would not want to trade him is the effect it might have on Komisarek, Same with the Kotstisyns.

    The reason I’m saying McDonnaugh (?) is with Markov, Hamirlik, Komisarek and O’Byrne I think our top 4 D’s are good for the next 4 years (JEEZ that sounds great 4 YEARS)

  110. coutNY says:

    To be honest, not sure I remember much of him either, but the Stats indicate he played over 5 minutes longer than Saku… Yet they also indicate he only played 1 more shift than he did, so I am maybe wrong on his 3rd period play.

  111. HABZ 24 says:

    oh we just hang on to win.phew.one rule that has to change is the neidermayer/salanne thing.oh im so good and so old now i can sit out half the season and i know theyll have me back so i can get another shot at a ring.if the ducks should win neider/salanne shouldnt get there name on the cup,its not fair to the others who bust it from training camp on.change the rule on this bettman.kovey was a man on a mission last night.id trade ryder,halak and a draft choice for jokinen, hossa’s a playoff dud,we all know it. go habs go!!

  112. Hoegarden says:

    One comment on the Koivu bashing, before going to work;
    The puzzle here about Saku is that he simply did not adjust to the New NHL, which is tailor made for players like him. His instinctive hook when he’s about to lose a player is a clear sign of fatigue and that he is no longer able to play at full speed. For the first time in his career, he played less than 12 minutes last night. And let’s face it, without the Kovy line, our underestimated defence and the goaltending of Huet, we are toast.
    Forget the “past” when talking about Koivu and concentrate on the next game. Many of the former Habs greats have ended their careers somewhere south of the 49th or “Out West”. So, if he’s to benched, sent to the pressbox or even traded, so be it, and let’s move on.

    Latendresse, on his partial breakaway, getting caught up by Richardson, probably one of the slowest D in the league, showed how his skating is a real issue.

    Let’s not take our beloved enemy too lightly tomorrow. A wounded animal is very dangerous, very dangerous.

  113. HotHabs says:

    I am pleased with the 2 points, but not so happy with how they barely hung on to those points.

    After the 4th goal, the team sat back in the neutral zone waiting for the Sens to come at them. Big mistake, and would’ve been costly had Ottawa had their 2 injured stars in the lineup. Alfie is supposedly going to be back on the ice on Saturday, so the Habs better adjust their game to not just hang on to a lead (assuming they get one) but to keep on pressing in the Sens zone.

    That Pleks-Kovy-Kosti line is one of the best in the league – wow, they are really something to watch!!! Gotta love it!!! Now if we can just assemble a potent 2nd line…

    The concern over Koivu is legit. He keeps on taking that blasted hooking penalty, and seems to do it at critical times in the game. Versus the Rangers it was a big part of the momentum swing. Again in last night’s game it could’ve been a game-breaker. It has to stop. I’m also concerned for Higgins, but I think his game will pick up.

    Breezer still makes me nervous out there. But, Boone’s man Josh Gorges has been gaining momentum and playing with lots of heart – I think he’s got management’s attention now.

    How can ya not love Mark Streit? The guy is so versatile – a tremendous asset to the team. He may not have the Souray laser, but his blast is intimidating and can beat even the best of goalies. Speaking of the former #44, I’m sure he’s keeping the Oilers’ med. & physio staff really busy! Thanks Mr. Gainey!

    Huet seemed back in form last night making some key saves to inspire his mates & guard the lead. The hockey analysts on RDS seem to think Price will get the next start against the Leafs, believing Huet will need more rest down the stretch. They are noticing some signs of fatigue and said it will be good to share the load with Price, who will benefit from some more NHL playing experience.

    RDS, Alain Chanteclair answered a fan question about trading for Hossa. He mentioned that possibly Habs D prospect Yemelin would likely be in the equation if that potential deal goes down. He also said that if Hossa became a Hab their offense would be complete and this team would very hard to slow down. Acquiring Hossa seems like a really long shot, but in Bob we trust…

    After the 8-0 drubbing at the hands of the Panthers, those hapless Leafs will want a W pretty desperately. And, if nothing else, they’ll want to prove to themselves and their fans that they can still compete. If Montreal gets an early lead, the Leafs will fold quickly from depression – coach Maurice will be pre-ordering the team’s Paxil prescription just in case.
    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  114. Bill H says:

    reposted above.

  115. Shobud says:

    I am not bashing Koivu I love him as a player, but I think he has got into a bad habit, and need to break it fast.. He is fast enough he does not need to do that.He may be small but has a great big heart, and I hate to see him doing this stuff

  116. coutNY says:

    Ottawa Sun reports: Gainey wants no part of the bidding war circus with Forsberg, but possibly looking at Hossa deal...

  117. krob1000 says:

    “kOSTITSYNCY” awesome…..stealing that for sure.

  118. mrstewart61 says:

    I think Hossa’s disappearing act in the playoffs was indicative of the team. He put up decent numbers in ’02 (10pts/12g) and ’03 (16p/18g) but one man can’t do it alone.

  119. Ed says:

    For what it’s worth, the chart at the bottom of this page shows he played 2 full and 1 partial shift with Koivu & S. Kostitsyn.

    http://www.cs.unb.ca/~mwf/habs/icetime54.html

  120. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    speaking of sister’s husband….

    the ROCKETS brother in-law was given a job at the bottom of a stairwell at the forum…and he couldn’t even see the game anymore!!!!

    man I hope they’ve taken care of that family….he put MONTREAL on the hockey map.
    ———
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  121. The Teacher says:

    I understand he’s a RFA. My point was about 2.4-3 mil a year deal. Is that the going rate for a player playing his first full season and doing well in a 6th Defenceman role? For fact’s sake :P Komi and Higgins are only making 1.9!

    They’ve had a few seasons already better than the single Gorges has put up. If we give Gorges 3 million, what do you expect us to give A Kostitsyn and Plekanec?

  122. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    on HOSSA and the Habs…
    http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/mckenzie/?id=228991
    ———
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  123. Chuck says:

    Shouldn’t Koivu ignite Koivu? All he has to do is look in the mirror to see the guy that has to get him to play more consistently.
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    ______________________________________
    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  124. coutNY says:

    Dumont ~ age 29 and similar physical characteristics
    2007-08 54 19 27 46 +9
    4 year $4 million extention

    Chris Kunitz – age 27 Smaller player
    2007-08 57 15 17 32 -1
    4 year $3.7 million average extention

    Patrick Sharp – age 25 and simlar physical characteristics
    2007-08 50 23 14 37 +11
    4 year $3.9 million average extention

    Cleary
    2007-08 55 20 19 39 +22

    Not sure if you were disagreeing or you were just stating his worth to you, but his market value is in the range is not far off what I was indicating according to league extentions recently.

  125. Shobud says:

    HotHabs I agree with you all the way except Hossa.. I don’t think he will be traded..

  126. HKisses says:

    Seriously though….Dont have to beleive me but this girl gets tickets from Komi if his parenst arn’t in town all the time……And when she went down after the game to the dressing room on sunday that is what happen……

  127. Smart Dog says:

    No way! Pleks is that good that he doesn’t look like he’s working so hard – but watch the guy, he works his tail off to get position, retrieve the puck and makes perfect little passes all night long.

    ________________________________________________________________
    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  128. habsguy says:

    One thing you guys seem to be overlooking…THIS is the team we have.

  129. coutNY says:

    give him $1.1 @ 3 years… You have him making more than Komi? Good but not that good yet, don’t get overzealous with the check book, there others that need a raise also!

  130. habfan53 says:

    If Ryder was scoring and playing 2 ways I would probably not worry about getting the missing piece. One thing that seems to be over looked is that he is only -4 in 47 games last year he was -27 maybe he is to focussed on defence.

    However seeing as the goals are not coming I still think (hope) that Bob goes after Jokinen He’s a big centre, locked in for another year, and I really think being Finninsh will help relaunch Saku.

    He’ll probably have to give up a current young roster player and either a prospect or couple of draft choices.

    I liken this situation a lot to the ’71 Habs when Pollock traded Mickey Redmond to get Frank Mahovlich for the stretch run. Then Dryden came up big in the playoffs.
    Montreal was NOT supposed to beat the BIG BAD BRUINS or the Hawks that year.

    What I did like about last night was after the 3rd Ottawa goal Huet and the rest of the team seemed to say
    NO NOT AGAIN

  131. krob1000 says:

    I haven’t heard anyone hinting at rentals on here at all. If a free agent can’t be signed then we don’t do it…that simple. As for being free in five months (we have a decent shot this year) and in the offseason they are far from free. They command more money in the offseason(Drury, Gomez, Briere) because they are so few (impact free agents). Giving away propects and draft picks who may or may not develop into anything is better IMO than giving away more money that is guaranteed to be spent. Most prospects values are actually at their highest before they ever play a game in the NHL. Most never make it. Some do and that is a chance that eventually has to be taken. Why not get a guy now via trade (they also can’t turn us down for non hockey reasons like taxes, language, weather,etc) if we go the trade route. Jokinen would be the best out there but Tanguay or Hossa aren’t too shabby either. We also need depth up front…we have depth from 7-15 but our top end forwards are thin and two are aging quickly.

  132. Wops says:

    He’s RFA at the end of the year. So we have to think about this kind of stuff.

    A.Kostitsyn is RFA too, I would sign him soon before K.Lowe busts a move.

    Other notable RFA, Lapierre, Grabovski, Halak, O’Byrne
    _______________________________________
    CH is for Chris Higgins

  133. coutNY says:

    True, but we have a lot of mid-season cap space $$$$ saved to add depth and this money cannot be saved for next year, so why not put it to good use… I agree we shouldn’t sell the farm or prospects to aquire that piece, but if the right piece at the right price comes along; why not add depth? Granted, Most rumors floating around involve a ridiculus amount of assets to aquire, but something may pop up, more likely than not it will be role players or depth in secondary positions.

  134. coutNY says:

    It’ll never happen without a trade following it… You don’t put a Captain in the pressbox.

  135. Smart Dog says:

    Hey Folks,

    A great and glorious win last night! We are the bomb, and the Sens GOT BOMBED!!

    We’re playing well and closed in on the Conference lead. Hooray for that. We need to celebrate these wins. So yeah, let’s not get down on the team. But we don’t have to be Pollyanna’s either. As fans it’s normal to want the team to continue to improve and especially to fix problems that are easy to spot.

    So to try to encapsulate what I think are realistic concerns and draw a conclusion:

    1. Koivu line. Yes, something is wrong there. Mostly what’s wrong is that it’s called the #1 line. But also Koivu is having a tough time this season and seems tired in half the games. His plus-minus is not good and his production in recent months has slowed.

    2. 60 Minutes of Hockey. For some reason this is a challenge on many nights for this team. Probably because too few guys (K-P-K) are carrying too heavy a load. During the 3rd period last night I watched Plekanic chase down a guy from in front of the opposing net to our own blue line. this is just part of why he is so good. But there’s only one (or 3?) of him.

    3. Underperforming Players. There are players who have underperformed. Ryder leads the list – those of you who think that Ryder is the ‘scapegoat’ have not been hearing people trash other players just as badly and praise Ryder for trying to do better. And you’re also just ignoring the facts. His production is terrible – you can’t blame it all on the coach. He’s not the only one. Smolinski has been soft most games and still I think has a losing face-off percentage. Brisebois has often been soft returning to what we hoped was gone. Brisebois was -1 last night, and Smolinski took a dumb penalty at a bad time… someone has shown that statistically we’re worse with these two in together in the line-up and I believe there’s something to that. Higgins has also had trouble finding the net. Carbo has tried change – probably too much change in some cases, but at this point with just ONE strong line he needs to bench, trade, or shuffle to fix this. We won’t win many playoff games with soft players in the line-up.

    4. Goal Tending. Huet has played brilliantly overall in this stretch. He’s stolen a game or two which is great – and also the team has stolen a couple back for him too. I don’t know why Carbo hasn’t figured this out yet – Huet needs to play OFTEN but not ALWAYS. He seems to get hot for a streak and then tire. Why not just rotate him out every 4 or 5 games? This is common on other teams – Carbo seems to want to ride him like a horse til he drops. And he sure does drop. Carbo needs to be smarter about over-using Huet.

    5.Injuries. This is why the problems on this team need to be solved. Look at the Sens – a one line team. Their amazing start turned totally ordinary with play around the .500 mark since Heatley went down. Plekanic or Kovalev goes down – who’s going to step in Smolinski?

    CONCLUSION: The team needs to be more well-rounded, we probably do need one more solid forward via trade, but whatever it takes, to be a solid team Carbo needs to have a first line that scores.

    PS: A side note but a bit of a concern – is it just me or is SK not the same since having his head smashed into the boards? I hope that’s just me, or one slow game and he’s not silently suffering from a concussion. He’s got that tough mentality.

    ________________________________________________________________
    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  136. idle says:

    You really think we will win two years in a row?

  137. habsguy says:

    personally I wouldn’t trade any of our young guns or draft picks, look what trading for NOW did to the leafs.
    And lets face it, the one guy who’s name is being thrown around here the most is Ryder, with the year he’s having, plus he’s UFA, what GM is going to take him unless he’s thrown into a package with prospects or draft choices.
    I don’t want some aging star to TRY to help us win NOW, then for the next 10 years watch who we traded away help some other team and wonder who was stupid enough to make that trade. ALA the leafs.
    I’d like to see them stick with who we have, promote from within ALA Chipchura, let Ryder go at the end of the season, maybe reduce Koivu’s role a little.
    We have stellar goaltending, defence looks to be the best it’s been in years, and our young forwards can only get better.
    In two years I think this is the team to beat in the NHL, maybe next year????……and with some luck maybe this year ?????? you never know !!!!!

  138. Sulemaan says:

    Agree with you 100%. Youth and development from within is the way to go.

  139. coutNY says:

    My Bad, I want to say they rolled 2 lines working in Sergie and Higgins with energy line of Lapierre nad Kostop???

  140. Smart Dog says:

    I agree with this too – but I don’t think that precludes trading Ryder (which seems inevitable and a good idea) and one other player if we could land a big center – someone who can fill in if Koivu or Plekanec goes down. To me that’s our greatest need.

    I wouldn’t mortgage the future for it – but that’s just it, we don’t have to. Imagine Smolinski replacing Plekanec. Now consider whether we need just one new shirt in the locker room.

    ________________________________________________________________
    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  141. The Teacher says:

    Man I really didn’t see Higgins on one shift in the third.

  142. Hoegarden says:

    re Smolinski. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I have yet to see him throw a check this year. All he needs to do, with his size, is get in the way, if he’s not willing to nail someone into the boards. The commentators on RDS were in shock last night when he casually\slowly skated off the ice during the last Sens rush. They rightly questioned his commitment.

    Now, guess who is the second most penalized players on the team, after Kostopoulos ? Saku. I’d say the following to Koivu if I were Carbo. “You may be struggling and we’re trying our best to fix the problem, but for now you have to stop taking needless penalties”. At least he could do that. For those who freak out when Breezer is on the ice, I now feel the same with Saku, especially when he’s caught in the offensive zone late in the game. Carbo has been more than fair with him and last night was the first time I’ve noticed him being kept off the ice in the third period. The question begs asking; which is more important, Saku’s ice time (11 min 49secs last night) or the two points ?

    http://www2.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/teams/Mon/stats

  143. the real vinnydj says:

    Hey guys, it’s been a while. You got to love the way our boys are playing right now. I just came across a very interesting stat.

    Who has the best shooting percentage in the league? (minimum 20 games played)

    You guessed it, Sergei Kostitsyn with 30%

    Kovi not far down the list at 17.4%

    As bad as it is in laff’s nation these days I still don’t want to lose to these guys. Typical leaf fan who has no clue will for sure be calling to rub it in because they don’t ever look at the big picture.

    Let’s go boys… Get that top spot

  144. johnnyhab says:

    Question who would you rather have? Marian Hossa, Olli Jokinen or Ryder?

  145. krob1000 says:

    We are so deep in prospects on the backend that we can spare one and a draft pick if it means landing a big fish. This mortgaging the future over one trade is an exaggeration that many have made on here. We are not talking about losing first round picks for years for Dustin Penner here. We are not talking about making a move like this every year like the Leafs did for several years. One more top six guy and the timing honestly couldn’t be any better to do it. Gainey will try and do something this next three eyar window is our best opportunity so we need to address the scoring forward depth. We are getting by and scoring very well but we are still vulnerable to an injury. One more legitimate scoring threat up front and we are stronger now and later if something happens and a key player goes down.

  146. RH says:

    Ryder…..but I’m biased.

  147. 24 Cups says:

    Smart Doggie – I hear what you’re saying and basically agree but I would like to add a few small points. I don’t think anyone considers the Koivu line as being #1 anymore. We basically need his line to get going as #2 so we’re not viewed as a one line team (Pleks). Smolinski was the Habs best faceoff man last night with a 9-4 record. Next best was Laps at 6-5. Boullion also took the same penalty as Smolinski did. I can live with Smolinski being a bit slow but I can’t for the life of me figure out why he ‘stands still’ so much on the ice. As for more depth up front, I think we are going to have to trade or sign a UFA because basically anyone of value in the organization (Pacioretty excluded) is already here.

    The Original 24 Cups

  148. showey47 says:

    if the price was right, jokinen. Hossa in known for disappearing in the playoffs and ryder is leaving no matter what happens. Olli is still under contract for at least another year, which is a reasonable one too boot. He is also that big scoring center that we lack and may be the guy who can light a fire under saku.

  149. 24 Cups says:

    saku 11 – Hossa is already making $7 mil this year so I can’t see him signing for anything less in his one chance as a UFA to break the bank. I figure it could be more like $8 mil a year. And if we can’t talk to his agent and work out a pre-arranged deal then I would let him go elsewhere.

    The Original 24 Cups

  150. 24 Cups says:

    Not all trades have to be for big fish. Rumour has it that Detroit may move Daniel Cleary if he won’t re-sign with them before the deadline. Ryder for Cleary works for me. He can skate, plays both wings, and is good at both ends of the rink. His attitude problems seem to be a thing of the past.

    The Original 24 Cups

  151. G-Man says:

    Time to try Higgins at center, between SK + Latendresse. Sit Smolinsky and play Saku with Begin and Kostopoulos. He was drafted as a center. It’s long past time to see what he can do.
    Saku’s big minutes games are over. He doesn’t earn them.

    Gilbert

  152. Habs_008 says:

    To get one of those 2 we would have to give up a lot. Ryder wouldnt be one of them. To be honest i dont think he will get traded…Teams will not give up anything for a Ryder. For Hossa we would have to give up Higgins, A prospect and a First rounder…too much for a guy thats UFA. For Olli prolly have to give up the same. What we need is a BIG Centre. Maybe but Saks on line 3…

  153. coutNY says:

    I agree, but I reserve the right to change my mind if Koivu or Kovalev decides to do the same after we win the CUP..LOL

  154. Smart Dog says:

    Well put – exactly my thoughts too.

    ________________________________________________________________
    Habs Fans! The FUTURE looks bright:
    Plekanec, Higgins, Chipchura, A Kostitsyn, Lapierre, Latendress,
    Price, S Kostitsyn, Komisuarus, O’Byrne

  155. krob1000 says:

    He was one of the guys wearing red shirts chasing around the guys in white shirts for the third period. He almost caught a guy around the 14 minute mark. Just kidding….sort of.

  156. coutNY says:

    I have been thinking Cleary would be a good fit, who is expected to want in upppers of a $3-$4 million dollar raise next year.. The deterants is he probably take a hometown discount to stay with Detroit and I doubt he would be available at deadline from the top contender. He is a dream playing a $600K right now. They’d be better off losing him to FA at the end of the season because they could replace him unless someone is willing to take him (a seller type team which we’re not) in a multi-player trade for some serious talent top 6 type player talent.

    WHy would they trade for anything less for a projected 30 goal scorer sitting at 20 at the moment… with only 600K in salary. Definately not Ryder who is also a FA, who may be cheaper to resign next year, but Detroit would add $750k on the cap remainder of the year, more than Cleary added the entire year.

  157. idle says:

    Good post. Just one thing though. Talk to the cube about Brezzer’s minus 1.

  158. HKisses says:

    By the way my brother works with a girl that knows Komi, and appaerntly when she was going to see him after the game George Gillete was at the game on Sunday and demanded Carbo after the game that he should havve givin Huet a rest And should have played the backup. Maybe that’s why Price was brought up…….(This happen in the dressing room)

  159. coutNY says:

    Was that other guy Gerber? Maybe that’s why we looked like we were on the PK for most of the 3rd and why we did not notice Higgi, because the camera was not focusing on that end too often… Just kidding also..

  160. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    It was a must win and we pulled it off…

    The Game Plan:
    remember that once they put in 4 goals, they will coast or bunker down defensively, thats the Game Plan from CARB…and 90% of the time it will work, just that as fans we have to watch the opposing team with most of the puck possession and hope for some quick counter attacks…not that bad of a strategy is it?…just causes heart attacks…

    The #1 Line:
    I don’t think Koivu’s line is recognized by CARB as the #1 so why keep saying it?, KOVY’s line was on the ice before Koivu’s line and in key situations where we need the firepower its always KOVY’s line…so lets make it official, KOVY’s line is the #1. (like we said about 5 months ago)

    …and what a line it is!, pure MAGIC. CHEMISTRY!…pure GENETIC CHEMISTRY to use an old phrase! its not just that they have an understanding of where each other is, but each of their strengths and weaknesses compliment each other to form the perfect line. When you assess the 3 players you see that they are each VERY DIFFERENT. the only similarity is all 3 have GOOD HANDS and a good shot… but thats where it ends….Kovalev creates room and space with his size and nifty stickhandling, enough that when he draws a few players towards him, 99% of the time Plek zips by and picks up the puck in a way rescuing KOVY, but only to give KOVY the puck back for either his patented laser shot or pass. Pleks gives us league leading speed that opens up the game, we are now being called the fastest team in the East! and its because of PLEK. Kostsr is a young version of Kovalev, with more speed and he rounds out the best of KOVY and PLEKS molded into one!

    I really love the comment from KOVY saying this is the best line he has ever played with in his career…even better than the Yagr/Straka days..

    other lines:
    I’d try to model KOIVU’s line similar to KOVY’s. first by moving HIGGS to the 3rd with Latron and LAP centering. The 4th would have Smoke with Begin and either Dandy or Kostop rotating….and that leaves KOIVU centering kostyjr and ???? the missing piece of the puzzle?, Dogs or trade…another upgrade would be CHIPS..anywhere…I’d put him on the 1st line.
    Chip-Koivu-Kostyjr = Kostysr-Plek-Kovy

    Defense:
    Solid…very SOLID without Breeze..but he is doing his job…filling in when needed. As for KOMI, he was hitting anything that moved last night!!

    Goalies:
    Huet is playing the best hockey of his career….at the right time.

    if we beat the leafs and the sens on saturday…we will be on TOP OF THE WORLD.

    ———
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your’re not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  161. The Teacher says:

    I really don’t understand the logic of overpaying for a pending UFA, especially when he will be free in 5 months. also especially when it will involve a loss of a an important player, a promising prospect, and 1 or 2 1st round draft picks in a deep draft.

    For Jokinen I might consider it, only because his salary is decent at 5.25 million and is signed for an additional year (never would trade 2 first rounders IMO, in ANY deal).

    Any trade has to be about short AND long term viability of the club. I’m not going to be happy if we go all out this year, don’t win, and then have to suffer through mediocrity for another 15 years.

    I’ll be satisfied with taking a toddler-step this year. I say this only because I believe we are entering the final stage of the rebuilding process and entering into the “yearly contender” stage. The problem with this is that we have to make the playoffs for 2 years in a row to truly be considered a “yearly contender”.

    I am not looking for a flash in the pan here. I’m looking for a strong, log-burning fire that warms and sustains the heart.

  162. hound521 says:

    Did anyone notice that Koivu got benched after that unnecessary penalty he took in the offensive zone? He came back to take the final draw (which he lost) but that was it. I didn’t see much of Higgins either. Thank God for the Kovy line. The Sens could have easily tied it up in the third period. Those were two HUGE points for our Habs. The Sens will be ready to go on Saturday night. Hopefuly the Koivu line shows up. They were brutal tonight.

  163. Shobud says:

    I am one that does not like Huet but if it was not for him we would have lost that.. Why they seem to feel the game is over because the have a three goal lead I don’t know.. Someone better speak to koivu about those stupid hooks that he is using lately,its getting out of hand

  164. Ian G Cobb says:

    Were going to Ottawa also, meeting up with DD, TommyB and others that post on here. I sure hope we learn how to close games out properly and soon. But wasn’t our big line something else ! They sure were pretty out there to-night.

  165. T-roy West says:

    I’m glad we got the win but if this game isn’t a clear indication that we need a trade badly to form a second line, because Koivu’s line doesn’t cut it, then I don’t know what is. Soon, teams are going to go after the Kovalev line and then it will get tough. On a side note – Huet, stop handling the puck because you don’t know how and bad things happen when you do. Koivu – stop taking dumb hooking penalties in the offensive zone. Your making a real habit of it and your our captain, so start leading by example.

    P.S. If Heatley and Alfredsson were playing then we most likely would have lost!

  166. joe-hab-nuno says:

    what a stupid win. I don’t know how many times i’ve asked why the hell do they try to shut down with a lead. Before Ottawa scored the first goal on the 3rd period, you could tell the habs were trying to defend that 3 goal lead with does stupid soft clearing shots. Then surprise surprise, Koivo with his famous offensive zone hooking penalty.

    We won, but we could of easily lost this game.

    Please stop trying to shut down the opposition with a big lead or lead. They have shown us that they can win easily when they don’t stop skating and try to defend, they have shown us also how easily they can lose trying to shut down.
    Go habs go.

  167. linp says:

    We don’t have Hamrlik tonight. That balances somewhat.
    Higgins needs to think pass first. Koivu’s line just doesn’t have enough team work.

  168. Ian G Cobb says:

    He is a very good goal tender, but every time he touches the puck its a nightmare. (sorry nightmare)

    Also I love Koivu, but if I was the coach, he would be in the press box next game. I’m afraid that he has lost his leadership, taking a stupid penalty every game is not what we need from him on the score sheet.

  169. RH says:

    Don’t forget the Nashville game.

  170. Gooner says:

    There is no such thing as a stupid win. You should be thankful we held on although I am not a fan of trying to protect the lead. It is too hard on my nerves

  171. Eric37 says:

    What is the story with Koivu?

    E.

  172. T-roy West says:

    Koivu’s line doesn’t have enough pure talent period. We need two potent scoring lines and only a trade will give us that. Yes, we definately missed Hamrlik tonight.

  173. WestHab says:

    The cardiac Kids are back! These games are taking a tol on my ticker.

    Lots of disappointed winners here tonight. But I do wonder how long one line is going to do it. It’s sad to see Koivu benched but at least Carbo isn’t giving him a free ride.

    We are almost at the top.

    Go Habs Go!!

  174. Sulemaan says:

    Well here are my ten cents from tonight:

    (1) The Kovalev we love is back. I thought his evil twin AK 2006-2007 had returned during the Rangers game but I was mistaken. Thank God.

    (2) Kovalev, Plekanec, A.Kostitsyn is a brilliant line. But if we are noticing the opposing teams are as well. Which leads me to…

    (3) Koivu, Higgins and whoever the hell else is the right winger. We need that line to get going or we are screwed. I think Ryder deserves to get back in the lineup as he has had success against Toronto otherwise…

    (4) Trade Ryder. No use sitting a 30 goal scorer in the pressbox. But I’m sure Gainey is working on something to provide us help in the offensive zone.

    (5) Speaking of which, the penalties Koivu is taking in the offensive zone are downright offensive. I’m a big #11 fan but he has got to stop doing that.

    (6) Speaking of ‘he has got to stop doing that, would Huet PLEASE stop venturing outside of his bloody net. It makes it tough on the defencemen.

    (7) Speaking of defencemen (or lack thereof), Patrice Brisebois filled in pretty good tonight and was only -1 which was Bouillon fault. Not bad for a fill-in position but he’s no regular six starter. When Harmlik comes back and O’Byrne does, back to the press box.

    (8) The team was 15 points behind Ottawa at one point of the season and now they are right behind them. If someone told you at the beginning of the season that Montreal had the potential for challenging for top spot in the East, would you have believed them. I have to be honest, I wouldn’t have.

    (9) Toronto got hammered 8-0 tonight. Former Canadien Richard Zednik got a hat-trick. I always liked him but he became a peripheral player after that dirty elbow by McLaren in the playoffs.

    (10) It’s going to be a hum-dinger on Thursday against the Leafs. They got humiliated tonight on home ice so they will come out playing. We better be ready. Might be a good time to put Carey Price back in action.

  175. habsgod says:

    i think we all need to relax!!they won and that’s the main thing!!we are 1 point out of first in the conference!and that is quite an accomplishment since the” so-called”experts picked us 14th!i personally never ever thought they’d finish that low i “said”that they’d finish no lower than 5th in the conference!this is also impressive considering that hamrlik was out!we have the make me laffs on thursday!and we will beat them 8-1 with carey price getting his 4th win in a row!that is the night we’ll all be the happiest,because when we all wake up friday morning and open our newspapers and look at the sports page and the standings we will see the MONTREAL CANADIENS in 1st place!!i can’t wait!also against the laffs kovalev will score his 3 goals!that line will dominate and get 12-14points between the three!higgins will break out thursday as well he will score 2 that night!I WANT TO HEAR EVERYBODY AND I MEAN EVERYBODY THURSDAY SERNADE THE LEAFS AND LOUDLY WITH THE HEY,HEY GOOD BYE SONG!!I WANT TO HEAR YOU SO I CAN JOIN IN OUT HERE WHERE I LIVE!what do you think cournoyer12!let’s all do this and let’s join in and give it to the laffs!!

  176. WestHab says:

    I’d hate to admit it but that thing about Koivu “not speaking french” may have taken a tol on him. Seems to that before that he was doing alright.
    I also wonder if not being the top dog on the team is somewhat of a problem for his pride. Kovalev is the star now. Just rambling.

  177. HJ says:

    this is no longer Koivu’s team! Kovalev should be the captain because he is the leader . If it weren’t for him, we wouldn’t be where we are near the top of the standings. Koivu has now become a liability on this team, taking 1 bad penalty after anotherin 3rd periods. In the offseason, he should be traded. his time is done, along with Smolinski, Brisebois,Begin, Bouillon(who was brutal tonight), and Huet.

  178. Ed says:

    Are you saying we need a whole new line, or part of a line? Who would we trade to get this pure talent. We don’t have anyone on the roster that would give us a return of pure talent, do we? We can always dream, but the other GM’s are not dummies. Milbury is no longer around.

  179. habsgod says:

    nice post suleman i agree with your post 100%

  180. WestHab says:

    don’t trade Begin. touch pas.

  181. RH says:

    Have to agree. The Kovy/Pleks/Kost line makes everything look so easy, while the Koivu/Higgins/? makes everything look so hard.

  182. T-roy West says:

    Hey Ed! I must have wrote my trade scenerio’s a hundred times in the last week and I’m getting tired but I’ll try to answer your question. We have Ryder, Dandenault, Halak ,draft picks and prospects. We have more to offer than alot of teams. I’m saying if it was my choice, I would have Higgins on the third line and go after Jokinen for Koivu’s line or someone with size and talent.

  183. habsguy says:

    you guys are discusting…what do they have to do to impress you, they won AGAIN and it still isn’t enough.
    They are within ONE POINT of first place and it isn’t enough…..TRUE hab fans (LIKE ME) are sitting back enjoying the ride !!!!!!!!

  184. Gooner says:

    Are you Nuts HJ ?

  185. habsguy says:

    oh and BTW, AK47 is sure making me forget getzlaf !!!!

  186. ClaytonM says:

    Comments like this belong on a leafs blog after they lose, not on this one after a win. Try and act like someone who’s first instinct isn’t “what have you done for us lately?”, everyone. Koivu may not be scoring as much, but if Higgins, Ryder and Latendresse had something going he’d be leading the league in assists. Carbo needs to keep Koivu with 2 wingers for the rest of the season and leave them alone. No more mid-period line changes, Guy.

  187. ClaytonM says:

    You’re talking to a stone wall, WestHab. Fans like this can’t appreciate the grit and heart a Begin brings to the ice and the room.

  188. Gooner says:

    You people never fail to amaze me. The team is second in the east. We won the game and you still want to trade away half of of team. What is with you people anyway? People make mistakes. that is how goals are scored. Lighten up and enjoy!!

  189. idle says:

    I’m right with you man. While some people want to trade a quarter of the team away for sucking because they make the odd mistake, the rest of us are busy up here in cloud 9 because we get to go to work each morning and talk about the points we are picking up to a bunch of people who picked the Habs to miss the playoffs this year.

  190. idle says:

    Apparently it’s not enough to win around here. You have to win pretty or it’s just not good enough.

  191. Gooner says:

    Well now that my nerves are calm again I think I will hit the sack. Good Night all

  192. 24 Cups says:

    Sulemaan (10) I saw the Leaf recap on the 11:00 sports and the Lousy Leafs used Toskola and Raycroft in net and they both let in 4 goals each. They interviewed Maurice after the game and he looked like he had just witnessed a UFO landing. Just stood there with his mouth open mumbling something that was difficult to decipher. His eyes were vacant. Not pretty. But I do agree with you the Lousy Leafs will show their typical game face against the Canadiens – it’s a tradition. Bring it on.

    The Original 24 Cups

  193. T-roy West says:

    Yes people, we are happy that we got the win but we still have to keep things in perspective. If Heatley and Alfie were playing than we probably would have lost if we played that way. We need two potent lines in order to go far in the playoffs and only one of our scoring lines is producing and it has been like that for a long time. Of course everyone is happy for the win but we are just looking at ways to improve and not sugar-coating things.

  194. Da Hema says:

    I wonder why TSN didn’t put the 8-0 loss to Florida on its front page?
    _________________________________________________________
    “The worst day of fishing beats the best day of working.”
    –Martin Crane, “Frasier”

  195. habsgod says:

    because it’s the laffs!if it was anybody else they would have!!

  196. HKisses says:

    Very good win…satisfied…….Just oone person on the ice who is worrying me is Koivu.i honestly think he isn’t puttin out 100% ,he can do more to contibute and i think its just mental preperation for him. He has to step it up…….

    By the way my brother works with a girl that knows Komi, and appaerntly when she was going to see him after the game George Gillete was at the game on Sunday and demanded Carbo after the game that he should havve givin Huet a rest And should have played the backup. Maybe that’s why Price was brought up…….(This happen in the dressing room)

  197. T-roy West says:

    Thanks! Just telling it like it is though!

  198. T-roy West says:

    I’m really hoping they go to the war room and find a way to fix the problems but I think the answer to having two potent scoring lines is not on this team yet. We are seriously one Ollie Jokinen and one Shea Webber away from being dominating. I think everyone knows what I mean by that(not these players per say, although they would be awesome, but people like them).

  199. T-roy West says:

    Don’t worry about the insults, just stay true to what you believe and have fun and enjoy this site. Nobody on this site is right all the time but they just want to put their two cents worth in like their intitled to. Cheers!

  200. T-roy West says:

    Yes very good news!

  201. showey47 says:

    no offence timo but pleky was 37% in the circle tonight, koivu was 40%,laps 55% and smokes was 69%. But none the less, i would rather have pleky’s line out there because they are also better in their own end the koivu is.

  202. Sulemaan says:

    ‘witnessed a UFO landing’…love it.

  203. rogus says:

    Maybe he can get Shelley a deal on some pain killers…

  204. Sulemaan says:

    thanks john. much obliged.

  205. idle says:

    There is always room for improvement, and no Habs fan is going to say ‘hey don’t go out and get some better players for us’. But if all we do is complain about every mistake the team makes then when do we have time to be happy and enjoy the team? There are 82 games in season and even the best teams are going to lose chunk of them and even lose some in a bad way. Even the best teams have players that their fans don’t like or want shipped out of town. Lets not this teams shortcomings distract us too much from the fact that the team is fighting for first place and take some time to enjoy what we do have rather then complain about what we don’t have.

    Having said that it seems most of us agree we are missing a top 6 forward who can hopefully make something out of our second scoring unit. Lets keep our fingers crossed that before too long Bob can make that happen for us.

    As for shipping 6 guys out of town because they make more mistakes then the others, it ain’t going to happen and there is no sense in fussing over something you have no control over and is not going to change.

  206. HNS says:

    4-3 whewwwwwwwww

  207. electazz says:

    Can’t wait for Saturday’s rematch. Got tickets for ottawa and I’m going to bug the crap out of those Sen’s Fans.WHOOOO!!!!!

  208. rogus says:

    Proline has picked the Habs to win…

  209. Chuck says:

    “Anything Can Happen, Anyone Can Win”

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    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  210. Gooner says:

    just read on TSN wbsite that Breezer is taking Hammers place tonight. Hammer sent home with the flu.

  211. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    We are dead meat….
    ———
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  212. NoTinFoilCups says:

    Single ticket to the Habs/Sabres game on Feb. 29th anybody?

    I had been scheduled to pass through Toronto on Feb. 28th and purchased a ticket online, unfortunately my schedule was bumped back a week.

    Their customer service tells me there are no refunds but it is fine for me to sell the ticket. It’s a good seat blues, row 3 seat 7. I can let it go for half price if anybody in the southern Ont. upstate New York area is interested. It cost me $176.

    First come first served. Email me pmenchions@gmail.com

    One of these years I will finally get to see my beloved Habs just not meant to be this season.

  213. filincal says:

    I enjoy the FACT you watch soo many of the Habs’ games. Maybe you can pass along some of your wisdom to your Bruins. Keep trying to figure us out buddy! I know your weakness geek,it’s called “a real team”. It’s great to be a HAB nowadays.

  214. habfan53 says:

    They could of just as easily blown last nights game too but instead tighened up and held on for the win (by their nails mind you). I would have been more concerned had they lost.

  215. showey47 says:

    hey you know what. If you get the standing from the nhl webpage and turn your monitor upside down, your laffs will be in second place and 2 points out of first. laffs lose 8-0 and didn’t play the night before and were at home resting, FACT lmao.

  216. habsgod says:

    here’s a fact your make me laffs bubble will officilly burst when we slaughter them 8-1 tommorrow and the laffs will head south because i hear they have the best golf courses there!that’s a fact

  217. Ian G Cobb says:

    I think you have noticed that you are no longer being noticed, this will be my last responce. BY.!

  218. Peter Young says:

    Well, thanks for that. I hadn’t noticed a theme since I didn’t read the rest after reading the comment on the Canadiens. And I’m glad I didn’t because that means that the comments on every other team were likely as irrelevant as the one on the Canadiens.

  219. Peter Young says:

    The Yahoo! Sports power rankings were released the morning of the Ottawa game, and the comments supposedly reflect the reason for the team’s current power ranking. The reason these comments on the Canadiens seemed particularly irrelevant to me is that Koivu, his captaincy and certainly his ethnic background have absolutely nothing to do with why the Canadiens are where they are as opposed to where they were a week ago or two weeks ago or even at the beginning of the season. I don’t mean to put Koivu, his captaincy or his ethnicity down in any way; it’s just that they have nothing to do with anything the current power rankings reflect or, for that matter, anything the current league standings reflect.

    It seems to me that the media covering the NHL have not yet come to grips with the fact that the Canadiens are back, that they are now a real threat, a force to be reckoned with. They haven’t deemed the Canadiens worthy enough to pay sufficient attention to them to gain the wherewithal to say anything useful or interesting or even relevant about the Canadiens. And so they throw out empty tripe like that which accompanied the power ranking.

  220. Chris says:

    If you read the rest of that article closely, you will notice that the Yahoo! power rankings are often themed, and this week’s theme was on leadership on the team. The ranking are based on the team’s play (and he consistently doubts the Habs, so you might as well live with it), but he then takes a look at some aspect of the team. Every team’s ranking this week includes some comment about the current captain, as well as the author peering into his crystal ball to see who the future captains on the team might be.

    Just wanted to give a bit of perspective. For example, here is what McKeon said about his #1 team, Detroit:

    “No lack of or misplaced leadership in this room – veteran defenseman Nicklas Lidstrom has set the tone since 2006 just like Steve Yzerman did from 1986-2006. Dynamic scorers Henrik Zetterberg or Pavel Datsyuk could be next in line when and if Lidstrom departs in the next couple of years.”

  221. Chris says:

    Its funny, Detroit fans were ripping Yzerman the same way for years until the rest of the pieces were there. Suddenly, he went from being a non-leader who was “never going to get them a cup” to one of the most revered captains in history.

    Thank goodness our fans are not so fickle…oh wait…

    This BS about guys not being good leaders unless they win something makes for a great rallying cry for the axe grinders. But I’m going to go WAY out on a limb and say that Ron Francis, Ray Bourque, Steve Yzerman and Rod Brind’Amour, amongst countless others, did not suddenly wake up the morning after their first Stanley Cup win with some new infusion of this nebulous “leadership” quality we all talk about…it was there the day before that Stanley Cup win too, as it turned out.

  222. Bill H says:

    Good point Chris. Even so, the writer’s comments about Saku’s Finnish nationality are not terribly relevant as he is hardly the first non-francophone captain. Mike Keene, Kirk Muller, Chris Chelios and Bob Gainey in the recent past. Predicting Latendresse’s ascent to the captaincy based on his francophone heritage is equally irrelevant, especially considering Higgins, Plekanecs, K1, and Komisarek are more likely candidates, at least at this point in time. True, the comments are meant to be taken somewhat lightly, but all the same, they suggest an unfamiliarity with the current roster, leadership and dynamics on the team.

  223. Chris says:

    I think the comment was valid, however. I remember the outrage in Montreal when Keane was named captain because he couldn’t speak any French. There was a pervasive feeling that any future captain of the team should not only be able to speak it, but that it should be their mother tongue. Turgeon and Damphousse fit the bill, but Koivu did not, and that did in fact raise eyebrows.

    And whether we care or not whether he is French or not, there is at least one flare-up per year over his deficiency in French, and these things are affecting the guy.

    As for future captains, I think K1 has no chance…he’s very shy a la Markov. Our future captains are coming from a pool of Higgins, Komisarek, and Chipchura, as near as I can tell.

  224. Bouleau noir says:

    Frank Jay just got hired by the Habs as a regular scouting agent. ( He will scout north american players until the draft in 2008).

    This is a good catch,.. Jay has been Ottawa’s scouting chief since 2001 and Murray has made changes.

    Jay was a scouting agent for 15 years with the Devils earlier on…. Trevor Timmins is thrilled to have such an experienced and talented man on board.

  225. TommyB says:

    Right on Scotty. Not to mention…and you know For Fact Sakes aint gonna mention it…we don’t need Komisarek dropping the gloves with every a**hole who “yaps”. We need him on the ice slammin’ faces into the glass.

  226. ClaytonM says:

    Except in the playoffs against Tampa when he challenged someone and pulled a turtle. That was the same game chara went after Lecavalier btw. And who won the series???

  227. Xtrahabsfan says:

    I would love Neil on the Habs, straight across trade for Ryder.

  228. Scotty90 says:

    in a flash Xtrahabsfan!

  229. Ed says:

    Ottawa would never trade Neil for Ryder. It just does not make any sense.

  230. krob1000 says:

    That would be a hell of a trade for the Sens especially seeing as though Hamrlik is out. Komi shouldn’t waste his time.

  231. The Teacher says:

    Was Scott Stevens tough?

    I do not recall him dropping the gloves TOO often?

    Hm?

    8-0, kind of laugh-able!

  232. Scotty90 says:

    “Neil rarely drops the gloves….”
    check your facts before you post!
    He does yap a lot, but he backs up his yacking! He’d look great with a Habs jersey on.
    Now if you were talking about Tucker I’d agree with you.

  233. Gooner says:

    My nerves are already twitching just at the thought of it

  234. showey47 says:

    Same here, time to go to the liquor store for some pain medication and anti-depressants

  235. Gooner says:

    I will need lots of beer tonight.

  236. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    you mean MORPHINE
    ———
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  237. coutNY says:

    RDS reported Practice lines

    Price will first game since his recall from Hamilton Monday. The rookie guard won three victories against Toronto this season.

    In addition, Saku Koivu rotated a trio completed by young Sergei Kostitsyn and Guillaume Latendresse in training on Tuesday. Christopher Higgins has for its part found with Maxim Lapierre and Mathieu Dandenault.

    Michael Ryder snuck on the fourth trio composed of Steve Bégin, Bryan Smolinski and Tom Kostopoulos. Guy Carbonneau did not confirm whether it would be removed from training for a third consecutive meeting.

    Article Click here!

  238. Richard B says:

    Finaly a demotion for Higgins, its alright considering he has not been doing any better than Ryder.

    But, if he is going to be on the third line…y not let him and Ryder play together on the third or fourth line? Truly what do you expect Higgins to prove playing with Dandy and Lapierre?

    Let Lapierre centre Ryder and Higgins. Jez…

    On a brighter note…I am sure by the third period if Latendresse has not scored a hat trick he will be back on the fourth line and higgins will be moved up again.

  239. coutNY says:

    OR fourth line for Higgins througth eyes of the La Presse:Google translated!

  240. Richard B says:

    Much trade talk here…all sounds expensive.
    I don’t see big changes coming…as Ryder and Halak are only going to get you so much.
    I am sure the top line will not be touched, and what is dandy and smokes going to bring back? Not much. Probably trade Ryder and a 5th or 6th D for a 5th or 6th forward to play with Koivu (likely a proven 25 goal scorer) and a depth D. probably a 7th D man.
    Just in case we get a D injury and Breezer an’t cutting the mustard.

    Also, is anyone concerned that any changes now are going to upset the team? Maybe we should leave well enough alone?

  241. Bill H says:

    Richard, I agree that Ryder isn’t going to get you much in a trade. But I think Halak could fetch you more. Other GMs are aware of our depth in goal, and that Halak was very strong and consistent with us last year. Having said that, I don’t think Gainey will trade him. Since it appears that his priority is to sign Huet so that he can mentor Price (not a bad situation at all) I think he will hold Halak in reserve, just in case Huet asks for too much or for too long.

    We were talking about this in an earlier thread. Huet probably wants 3-4 years at $3.5M-$4.0M. So will he sign for 3 years at $3.0M for a chance to win a Cup in Montreal? Or will he be too threatened by Price and want to sign where he has a better chance at #1 status for 4 years. I’m just speculating here as nobody knows how much Huet will want or how high BG will go to keep him.

    It seems to me that BG has a much stronger bargaining position if he still has Halak on a rope. If Huet jumps ship, BG just matches any offer sheets for Halak. He reassures Halak that he gets a fair shake from here on in. And we go into next season with 2 strong (if semi-unproven) goalies to share the workload.

    But if BG trades Halak, then he is over a barrel in negotiations with Huet. And if Huet does walk, then all of a sudden we go from much depth at the position, to scarce supply and uncertainty.

  242. Gooner says:

    We need Komi on the ice tonight, not in the penalty box.Especially since Breezzer is playing tonight.

  243. Habhopeful says:

    i cant believe people are bashing on koivu that bad, i know he hasnt been playin great but everyone knows how good hes been in the past…yes i know, he never won a cup for us but he has always done everything for the team, last year it was kovalev, this year its koivu, i would love to wonder who’ll get it next year, players have bad years and i understand that, how long before the majority of people do…we should be happy were doing so good only if we have one line, ottawa made it to the finals last year…with just one line, playoffs are different, we have solid D, we have more than enough solid D and we have good tending, , i donestly do hope koivu, higgins, ryder (albeit trade bait), we have a good team…I was at the game tonight and it was awesome until it got a little heartwrenching, i hope to god we re-sign him, he’s actually is 2 points away from 3rd in scoring……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….sorry i had a bit to drink…but i love it

  244. Gooner says:

    I know Hossa is a great player but one concern I would have is his seeming lack of production in the play-offs. This dates back to his time in Ottawa. I believe that is one of the reasons that they traded him to Atlanta.

  245. rogus says:

    It might be due to the fact that the Sens SUCK!!! Maybe they’ll re-sign Yashin and Daigle LOL Go Habs!!!

  246. Richard B says:

    I got an idea Guy!!!!
    Breezer, Hammer and Kommie for the first line.
    Lets try the brothers K and Kovalev on D for a game…
    just for kicks.

  247. G-Man says:

    Koivu was benched after his 5ooth hooking penalty in the offensive zone only to have Carbo let him take a faceoff in the last minute. He lost that faceoff so easily. It’s too bad that when the team is finally playing well that Koivu is in the tank. Habs need to replace him some way some how.
    Other than that, the Pleks line, the Smoke line, the Lap line and 2/3 of the Koivu line were doing the job.
    Without Hamrlik in the lineup we weren’t as solid on D, but, again, the guys did the job because they won the game.
    Many posters only see what the team lacks, a positive shift from the “trade the whole bleeping team” posts that were here last season. That, finally is a good sign. 67pts = 33 away from 100 with 28 games to go. Can’t bitch about that!

    Gilbert

  248. 24 Cups says:

    G-Man – I won’t comment on Koivu but here is the faceoff summary from last night.

    Smolinski = 9 – 4
    Lapierre = 6 – 5
    Koivu = 4 – 6
    Pleks = 7 – 12

    The Original 24 Cups

  249. 24 Cups says:

    I would imagine the Canadiens are still smarting over their meltdown on Sunday afternoon. Hopefully, this will act as a form of motivation and they will come out with a lot of jump. Ottawa has hit the wall lately so I’m anticipating a victory on home ice from our Habs. If we can’t beat a team that is missing it’s two best players then we’re going to have a tough time defeating them in the playoffs when they are at full strength. I’m assuming that Huet will get the start.

    The Original 24 Cups

  250. Woah_Dana says:

    I really hope Sunday’s game acts as a form of motivation also. I’m hoping Sunday’s game was supposed to happen the way it did to have the team come to some realizations. Realizations they will need to get past this next week, which is nothing but a staircase leading to slot numero un.

    Let’s get to the top!

    GO HABS!
    ~Sergei Kostitsyn, marry me!!

  251. originalsix says:

    Just heard it on the Team 990, Carey Price will be in nets for the game tomorrow against Toronto Maple Leafs.

    Michael Ryder will be a healthy scratch for tomorrow’s game as well.
    Also Dany Heatley is back, he’ll be playing in their game against Florida and should be in the lineup against the Habs in their next game…lets see if he makes a difference come that game.

    Finally just heard the Flames have signed Dion Phaneuf to a 6 year contract, worth 6.5 million a year!

  252. coutNY says:

    Also posted below from RDS cite…

  253. stephen says:

    I like Higgins on a “grinding” line. It might be good for him to really work for some goals, rather than trying too hard to finesse them. Perhaps that would boost his confidence and get him back on track.

    Mike for coach! :p

  254. Mike says:

    I think Carbo will do a great job getting the team ready. However, I would do this. I would change the lineup.

    S Kost-koivu-ryder
    a kost-pleks-kovalev
    higgins-lapierre-lats
    kostop-smols-begin

    markov-komi
    hammer-streit (don’t like this but what can we do)
    gorges-boullion

  255. Shiloh says:

    One change – dress Dandy and sit Latendresse

  256. JF says:

    I like those lines.

  257. Da Hema says:

    Timo: why do you think the Habs have a “fragile” psyche? If they were a team on the playoff bubble–and lost as they did last game–perhaps that would be true. They are three points out of first place, and one if they win tomorrow night. The players do not sound intimidated or overwhelmed after the loss to the Rangers. If anything, the loss was good for them–as Plato noted, punishment is good for people. The loss reminds them they are not yet an elite team, and if they want to win they have to play a full game. I for one am looking forward to seeing how they manage against a really good team. The players should too.
    _________________________________________________________
    “The worst day of fishing beats the best day of working.”
    –Martin Crane, “Frasier”

  258. NoTinFoilCups says:

    Forgot to mention the ticket I have for sale is in section 107.

  259. stephen says:

    So, no news thus far on any “forced vacation” for Kovalev’s not-so-subtle elbow on Hollweg?

    I thought for certain he’d get at least one game. As much of a twit as Hollweg is, nobody should be getting one of those lethal elbow pads to the chops.

    As for the game today, I am hoping Carbo employs an aggressive forecheck, and really lets the guys loose, rather than a conservative pick-your-spots approach.

    When firing on all cylinders, I think the Canadiens can rival the Wings in terms of entertainment value, if not for finish. That seems to be coming along, though. Keep giving these guys the green light to gun it, and they’ll be finishing more and more…

    Should be a terrific game!

  260. JF says:

    Hollweg got a one-game suspension. Presumably if Kovalev were going to get one, it would have been decided at the same time. I hope…

  261. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    What Kovalev did was PERFECT. IT WAS HOCKEY 101.
    that is what you do to those ANIMALS.

    Kovalev should get a medal for that.

    Play some hockey then talk….its called defending yourself,
    you don’t see or hear a fraction of what happens on the ice…
    and what led up to that.

    Its not the first time that KOVY has sent a message, don’t Fu** with me.
    ———
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  262. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    but it is posessive since “not a hab fan” describes a person who by an action will make the sentence true or false.
    ———
    1. Thank GOD we have Alex Kovalev…..at his PRIME
    2. The BELL CENTRE should be rebuilt to sit 80,000 fans
    3. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    4. We will win the CUP in 2009

  263. moser17 says:

    Professor, your third law/prediction/maxim should begin with a contraction and not a posessive (i.e. “you’re” instead of “your”). Sorry, I don’t want to cause you painful mental contractions by being possessive about rules of grammar.

  264. Mike says:

    The only was we will lose this game is if we focus on the fact that they are missing their top 2 players and become over confidant. This will not be an easy game.

  265. showey47 says:

    agreed, look what happened when we played the pens without crosby. 60 minutes of pedal to the floor effort and we will win. It will be interesting to see how carbo uses the goaltenders this month.

  266. habsgod says:

    krob why would they want halak as they have vokoun?jokinen will cost us a.kostitsyn and macdonagh!would you do that?i sure as hell wouldn’t give them either guy for jokinen!

  267. krob1000 says:

    Good point about the negotiations but if it means us getting an Olli I would package Halak. Jokinen’s under contract at 5.25 million for next year and that is about 1.5- 2 million under what seems to be market value for someone like him after last years free agent signings. I could live with that logic if it meant we got an Olli for our goalie.

  268. habfan53 says:

    Krob1000
    as I said in an earlier post the problem with packaging Halak is that they don’t need a goalie they have Vokoun. I would REALY like to see him in a HABS jersey though.

  269. krob1000 says:

    You are right I guess I had Halak in my head referring to the Atlanta talks….my bad.

  270. habfan53 says:

    What do think though If Gainey can’t sign Huet in the next couple of weeks than package Price a prospect or two and a draft pick to Florida so long as we get Vokoun back with Jokinen

  271. Ed says:

    Why should Halak believe it if Gainey tells him he will get a fair shake from now on? He has not gotten a fair shake since last year. HIO’s new blogger, Chris, pointed out that Halak could go to Russia, and I say, who could blame him. He would join Perezhogin, getting plenty of ice time, and big money.

  272. Ian G Cobb says:

    Your beating a dead horse, try a new and positive subject. You have told us before that you don’t like him.–NEXT

  273. habfan53 says:

    Ian

    Whats the link for the Hamilton game? I’m going to try to make I just want to check with a couple of buddies who are out of town.
    There’s a local kid (Jon Gleed ) who is with them.

  274. Jim M says:

    Hi Ian,

    You could say that about a few people on here, don’t you think? Tee!

  275. Ian G Cobb says:

    habfan53—Hamilton bull dog link is-www.realitycheckeyesontheprize– for the summit news. This is on Robert L’s blog site-Keep Your Eyes On The Prize.

  276. habfan53 says:

    Thanks Ian hope tosee you there

  277. kenny_galloway says:

    Excellent, with Spezza and Heatley out of the line up it should be an easy dub (win) for lez canadians. We will have our hands full trying to beat Emery tho, hes rigth pissed at lapierre

  278. The Teacher says:

    Gerber is starting

    Timo, stop following me LMAO

    These time-stamps are WRONG!

  279. showey47 says:

    With us beating the sens and the laffs getting smoked. I guess we won’t see the cage rattler or fact-sakes or whatever the troll calls himself here tomorrow.

  280. coutNY says:

    Notice he does not deny his love for the Laffs… but because his beloved team stinks so bad he has stooped to going to other team’s blogs to try to point out flaws or drum up conspiracrcy theories on how the Habs have an easier schedule than everyone else. BTW maybe he changed his name again to kenny_galloway… he was spewing nonscense of trading for Hal Gil and Racroft the other day because he was and I quote “Racroft is up there with Loungo and Brodeur”. No one but a laff fan could imagine such falicy without being followed by a PUNCH LINE.

    To be a laff fan seems to me a sad deteriating illness I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy… I wish the courage to seek the much needed help he is crying out for…

  281. Ian G Cobb says:

    Do you think you would like to tell him to his face. I wonder who would be sucking what after?

  282. Bill H says:

    Yes, the negativity is hard to take. I too skip over some of the posters that have little to say other than to whine about the play of certain players. Other than that, there isn’t much to be done. They choose to view the world in a negative way. I expect that this tendency spills over into other aspects of their lives.

  283. mrstewart61 says:

    In the beginning this site it was great. Now there are so many negative posters who never agree with other posters.

  284. Corio says:

    Seriously though, Brisebois DOES suck!

  285. idle says:

    This is the first season I have participated in this forums and it has turned out to be a pretty successful one so far. It’s hard to imagine what things would be like on here if the Habs were in 10’th spot at this point with sinking playoff hops.

    Actually maybe it’s not so hard to imagine, it would probably be pretty similar to how it is now.

  286. Peter Young says:

    Heh, one point out of the conference lead, we’re definitely back as an NHL force.

    Looked at the Yahoo! Sports power rankings. Are they clueless, or what? Here’s what they chose to say about the Canadiens, all of it worse than irrelevant:

    “5. Montreal Canadiens (28-16-9, Previous: 6) – The selection of Saku Koivu as captain in 1999 may have raised eyebrows from those in the vast majority of French-Canadian fans who were used to players such as Vincent Damphousse, Pierre Turgeon, Guy Carbonneau and the like leading them. But there can be no complaints of the native Finn’s leadership both on and off the ice where he’s battled serious illness to return as an effective player and inspiration. Interestingly, alternate captains are American (Christopher Higgins) and Russian (Alexei Kovalev). Maybe far down the road 20-year-old Guillaume Latendresse will develop into that next French-Canadian captain.”

  287. 24 Cups says:

    Peter – On another one of those weekly rankings they had the Habs 2nd and Ottawa 17th! Give me a break. The week before they had Ottawa 2nd. I take all of that stuff with a grain of salt.

    The Original 24 Cups

  288. VancouverHab says:

    What the Hey is wrong with some of us here?
    The Habs win a HUGE game and some people jump for….their cudgels.

    The scoring comes from one line? How terrible! R-i-gh-t: just like back in the 80s, all the Oilers fans were bitching mightily because the Gretzky-Kurri line got most of the points.

    First goal tonight goes to the Sens and we stick up for our team? Nope — a poster says “another soft Huet goal.” I saw the highlights and an open man in the slot with a first time shot? No soft goal.

    If Carbo walked on water, some people here (including Mr. Boone at times, I must say) would bitch that he can’t swim.

    All hail the Habs, I say. Credit where credit is due.

  289. Chris says:

    You hit the nail on the head. The tone here is so negative and poisonous some times that it really makes it hard to read through the boards. I find myself starting to skip posts by many of the long-time posters here because of their apparent need to one-up one another in bashing individual players. The sad part is that many of these same posters often have great points, but its really getting to the point of the boy who cried wolf. When only 1 post out of 10 or 20 is something other than “Koivu sucks” or “Brisebois sucks” or “Carbo sucks”, it gets a bit hard to take people seriously.

  290. Habhopeful says:

    i cant believe people are bashing on koivu that bad, i know he hasnt been playin great but everyone knows how good hes been in the past…yes i know, he never won a cup for us but he has always done everything for the team, last year it was kovalev, this year its koivu, i would love to see who’ll get it next year, players have bad years and i understand that, how long before the majority of people do…we should be happy were doing so good only if we have one line(hopefully at the moment), ottawa made it to the finals last year…with just one line, playoffs are different, we have more than enough solid D and we have good tending, , i honestly do hope koivu, higgins, ryder (albeit trade bait)start picking it up, we have a good team…I was at the game tonight and it was awesome until it got a little heartwrenching, i hope to god we re-sign streit, he’s actually is 2 points away from 3rd in scoring……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….sorry i had a bit to drink…but i love this team

  291. Habhopeful says:

    i meant to put the first one one as a preview…

  292. Habhopeful says:

    has anyone noticed huet has been playing the puck better lately ever since he ***ked a play during the atlanta game, well somewhat better tonites was boullions fault, although i hate pinning the blame on anyone, i dont get as nervous when he plays it now than when he did a couple of weeks ago

  293. kenny_galloway says:

    whats ur problem

  294. The Teacher says:

    Huh? he corrected your incorrect statements, that’s all. :S

  295. kenny_galloway says:

    LINK PLZ

  296. The Teacher says:

    oh boy..Timo?

    do we strike you as uninformed?

  297. The Teacher says:

    Anyways, welcome to the site. I’m sure you’ll enjoy it.

  298. kenny_galloway says:

    thnx whats ur msn

  299. kenny_galloway says:

    oh my mate justin hall told me it was spezza cuz he had the clap. guess he was kidding

  300. The Teacher says:

    Umm, I’d rather not give it out to half of Montreal and beyond, but you can leave me a message here anytime :)

  301. kenny_galloway says:

    do u post on the leafs message board

  302. The Teacher says:

    Well, here we call them the LAUGHS. And no, why would I, they suck to hell and beyond.

    BTW Do you know the Cage/Fact-Rattler by any chance?

  303. kenny_galloway says:

    theres an around the league place where u can talk about the habs theres tons of habs fans there do u post on the habs board or hf?

  304. The Teacher says:

    Never heard of it. Link Please.

  305. kenny_galloway says:

    forum.canadiens.com

    http://www.hfboards.com

  306. The Teacher says:

    Looks quite complicated. i think i’ll stay with this site. Gotten used to it and all.

  307. J Haul says:

    You got a problem with half of Montreal (and possibly beyond)? :O

  308. habfan53 says:

    Again you have it a little slanted Komisarek means more to the Habs then Neil does to the Sens. So there would have been an advantage.
    And Neil should have more points as Neil is a forward and Komisarek a stay at home defencemen.

  309. krob1000 says:

    http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/13259-Double-OT-Not-every-check-necessitates-a-fight.html
    A nice article provided by CoutNY on the other thread you should read this. Sounds very familiar.

  310. HotHabs says:

    Sounds like he’s back, people. Seeing the world through the bitter and dim Leaf-colored glasses!!! HAHAHAHAHA

    enjoying the high’s of being a Habs fan

  311. Robert L says:

    WRONG

    Komisarek is off for 5 minutes on a night when the Habs are without Hamrlik is a huge gain for the Senators!

  312. 24 Cups says:

    showey – please stop taking the bait. No replies will eventually lead to no future posts. It’s all about seeking attention.

    The Original 24 Cups

  313. krob1000 says:

    Cmon 24 we tried that…. he is our Avery…….we just need a Malik.

  314. showey47 says:

    i know i shouldn’t respond to the schmuk but he’s not baiting me. I just like knocking the troll around a little kind of like we do to tucker. Besides he is nothing more than a lap dog, he yaps and yaps then runs away and hides just like tucker, another fact.

  315. 24 Cups says:

    kRob/Showey – LMAO squared!

    The Original 24 Cups

  316. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Because the Sens are missing two of their top player you can count on a very ruff and intimidating style from Cris Neil”Hab killer” and his gang, especially after all the mention of Rangers physical play last game.If this turns out bad,it will wake up B Gainey and make him sharpen his silent pencil.We should beat the Sens hands down…go Habs go…

  317. showey47 says:

    its funny how we are considered small but the smallest team in the league is the red wings and are 20 points ahead of everyone else and no one ever talks about them being too small. Actually, the last time we played the flyers rds showed the stat that the habs were the same for average height and weight. Both were 6’1″ 205 lbs

  318. habfan53 says:

    Thought I would check out TSN’s Power Rankings. They have Kovalev as the 35th player overall @ 82.24 14th among wingers.
    The other Habs listed are
    Huet @ 82.03 6th among goalie
    Markov @ 80.37 7th among defencemen
    and Plekanec @ 79.12 18th among centremen this is the 1st time I’ve seen him make the list

  319. habsgod says:

    habs will win 4-2 tonight!

  320. Robert L says:

    That’s the same score I said today also!

  321. habfan53 says:

    Niece piece

    Thanks for the link

  322. Mr.Hazard says:

    Here it cooommes. Here commmeess. Here it cooommees. Here comes their eighteenth nervous breakdown.

    Ex nihilo nihil fit

  323. Canus says:

    Just out of curiosity, when Hollweg (or however you spell it) boarded Kostitsyn last game, did anyone by any chance see if the camera’s shifted over to his brother on the bench. I’m just curious, as to how he reacted. Weird question eh?

  324. projectpete19 says:

    they showed him when sergei walked past him on the bench right after he got up and Andrei said something smiling to Sergei, probably something like “welcome to the NHL bro!” in russian though

    hope that helps

  325. The Teacher says:

    Go Habs Go

  326. TommyB says:

    Chuck, you sound like you have won about as much as me. LOL

  327. Bill H says:

    LOL Okay habsfan, now that we are in agreement on what Jokinen is worth, let’s pull the trigger on this deal. Ryder and Lapierre, plus prospects Valentenko, McD and Fischer. Oh wait, we aren’t actually GMs in Florida and Montreal?? Oh well, its been fun anyway Habfan.

    Sometimes I have doubts about Higgins as well. Its certainly been a long season for him. 16G 18A 34Pts is short of our expectations for him, no doubt. But those are still not disasterous numbers. =/- is +2. He has had a lot of ice time with other players who are struggling and he has been shifted around from line to line. Sure, he has missed a lot of chances to bury the puck, but all these things contribute to his difficulties in breaking the slump. All this, and he’ll still score more than 20 goals; maybe he’ll get 25. I don’t think he’s washed up just yet. I think he’ll pull out of it soon and eventually show the promise that he dangled in front of us last season. I know more and more poeple are starting to point to Komisarek as the next captain, but who knows who will get that “C”?

  328. showey47 says:

    yeah i noticed the possible name change but who knows, i do enjoy having fun at his expense though.

  329. mrstewart61 says:

    Yeah, that’s gotta be him. That was the dumbest post I’ve ever seen on this site.

  330. Xtrahabsfan says:

    The size may be the same but Philly’s got some monster tough hockey players that can score or fight,and the big team in my mind is the Ducks”A team that does every thing well”and should be a template for the Habs.To be honest Ryders last two games were the first time I’VE SEEN HIM be physical”Brashear and the hit on Higgy”.We have a soft team and have to toughen up and win a fight and a face-off.

  331. rogus says:

    Carbo’s got to go??? The team is challngin for top seed because they finally bought in to Carbo’s methods…is that you or the gator talking?

  332. coutNY says:

    Agreed rogus… The logic that Ryder does play well in Carbo’s system, so fire the Coach! Seems like someone saying "I've got a hang-nail decapitate me, so I don't feel the pain, instead of cutting off the hang-nail." Both alleviate the pain don't they??? LOL

    A player is never more important than the TEAM. If Kovalev can adjust, than anyone can! Kovy’s playing minutes on the PK for cripe-sake!

  333. habsgod says:

    are you smoking something?to suggest carbonneau has to go!he’s the best coach we’ve had since demers!!carbonneau should be coach of the year!i think your on something to sugget that, put the crack pipe down!

  334. mrstewart61 says:

    He wants Carbo to go because of his handling of his fellow Newfoundlander.

  335. Ian G Cobb says:

    I see they let you out again, under a new name.

  336. krob1000 says:

    I agree on the not giving up on Ryder but the fire Carbo stuff when he has to be a candidate for coach of the year makes your post lose validity to everyone on here. YOu are right about Kovy as many wanted rid of him before the season and I know first hand becvasue I defended him all summer pointing to his unusually low shooting percentage last year. Chances eventually equate into goals and that is just a fact. Firing Carbo is about as ridiculous of a comment as can be posted right now though.

  337. coutNY says:

    I actually thought he played an alright game on Saturday… most notibly stick-up for Higgi after a boarding penalty which was the first I’ve seen that sort of fire from him. He took a few good shots, but still hangs out in the perimeter area looking for that perfect rebound too often… needs to get his hands dirty in front of the net and bang in some garbage IMO; Needs to establish some clean-up credibility, so Defenseman will respect him enough to cheat or at least keep an eye on him, so lanes open for others. Our top line needs to move their feet more.

  338. Chuck says:

    I think that going after someone just becaue they’re a “name” player would be a big mistake. If they’re not right for the team, who cares what their nameplate says?
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    “All bow down before the Komisaurus Rex!”

  339. Gooner says:

    I agree with you Chuck.Although he would be a great player to hae I think may Jolkinen would be a better fit for us. (pardon my spelling)

  340. Robert L says:

    For you Chuck, and those who enjoy the speculation this time of year brings!

    All Eyes On Gainey As Deadline Approaches

    http://wwwrealitycheckeyesontheprize.blogspot.com/2008/02/all-eyes-on-gainey-as-deadline.html

  341. coutNY says:

    Hollweg second offense I think?? which is an automatic game. Not sure if they are or can still add to it to send a message??? Or give Kovalev a reprimand at this point?


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