Game 50: Flyers make Habs pay for penalties

Canadiens’ Carey Price gets beaten by Flyers’ Jeff Carter during the first period on Tuesday night in Philadelphia. Paul Bereswill, Gatty Images

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• At a Glance: The Philadephia Flyers won their 1,000 regualar-season home game in franchise history with ease on Tuesday night, using the power play to dump the Canadiens 5-2.
The Flyers scored two power-play goals late in the first period to take a 2-0 lead over undisciplined Canadiens, who took three penalties within a 1:31 span to face two 5-on-3 disadvantages.
Jeff Carter scored 17:42 into the period and Kimmo Timonen scored 1:03 later to give the Flyers a 2-0 lead.
The Flyers added two more goals in the second period, one on the power play, to take a 4-1 lead.
Daniel Carcillo made it 3-0 only 23 seconds into the second period with a backhand that eluded Carey Price.
David Desharnais scored for the Canadiens 12:43 into the period to make it 3-1, but the damage was done.
Claude Giroux scored the a power-play goal for the fourth Flyers goal with 3:08 to play in the middle period, his 19th of the season.
Mathieu Darche scored in the third period, his ninth of the season, to make it 4-2 Flyers with less than five minutes to play.
Daniel Brière scored into an empty net.
Montreal went 0-for-7 with the extra skater.

• What It Means: The Canadiens fall to 27-18-5 and remain at 59 points for seventh place in the Eastern Conference.

• What’s Next: The Canadiens are off until Feb.1 for the NHL All-Star Break, playing the Washington Capitals before travelling home to take to take on the Florida Panthers on Feb. 2. After that, the Canadiens play a pair of matinees during Super Bowl Weekend with games against the New York Rangers on Feb. 5 and New Jersey Devils on Feb. 6.

366 Comments

  1. Julie H says:

    March 3rd? Darn, I totally read Feb 2nd. I work DT so I’d be more than happy to watch the game with you (the one in March).

    ♪Your cares and troubles are gone. There’ll be no more from now on. From now on happy days are here again, the skies above are so clear again. So let’s sing a song of cheer again. Happy times, happy nights, happy days are here again♪

  2. krob1000 says:

    hodgemail…re Gretzky what should he do next?

    We have Sid…who does his best…but is busy playing..but he is undoubtedly the NHL’s actingposter boy.  I would love to see Wayne not get involved for a couple of years competitively or for any one organization.  I would love to see him named League Ambassador. I think the NHL and the game in general could benefit from the Great One being accesible….to the lay people…to the kids whose families can’t afford $400 to watch a game and get a glimpse of Wayne behind a bench.  Wayne’s name still carries clout and even the young kids have an idea of who he is…but before he is too old and frail I would suggest everyone inthe NHL pitch in and have Wayne..sell the game….Wayne is a magical personality but unfortunately these superstars are not accessible while they play…taht can change once retired.  Wayne has the time right now and it would be an incredible thing….Wayne could tour like the Cup does…who in their right mind wouldn’t like to meet Wayne Gretzky…really? I think non hockey fans would take a little more interest…in the summer current superstars or local heroes from the areas he is visiting or other players could tour with him as well.  I

     know it is very basic and simple it seems dumb…but it could be Wayne’s last great sales tour…poor guy was geographically dispersed through the States intenionally to try and sell the game…but hokcey used to be about kids getting on ponds…now it is about dollars and cents……A Wayne Gretzky tour would be incredible…a wayne and friends tour even..anything…but it HAS to be accessilbe to the layman….really accessible….even a television show like Hockeyville type format but with Wayne visiting school boards that meet in a central location like a junior arena,etc…..if they are serious about selling the game and maintainig the game…then go after the average joes that are being chased away from the game…..hell they always have been and still are the game. If a television show ere made then the possibilities for events/charity dollars, NHl goodwill, NHl aawreness,etc are limitless……Wayne already walks on water…but this would be the clincher IMO.

    Wayne is plain and simpy the best there ever was…so while he still his held in the same esteem and before he gets too old…he could still reach several generations…but it has to happen sooner than later…because he no doubt wants to be involved competitvely again at some point….

  3. Gormdog says:

    100%.

     

    Nabokov had his chance to play in the NHL – last year in the offseason. He gave up his right to make the NHL his oyster when he ran off to Russia for big money.

  4. joeybarrie says:

    I really do not think that’s what happened. I think he tried to make a go of it in Russia and didn’t like the scene. He saw an opportunity with the Wings who are looking for a better back-up for a run at the Cup. Seems like a great deal.

    I think they all knew the fine print, and basically took a shot. They said he wouldn’t play for anyone else, and Snow tried to call him on it.

    He is not Pulling a Lindros, and by the way, look at how that ended. Nords went to Colorado. I do not understand why a player cannot refuse playing in a situation where they think they will not like. It’s just like any other job, do not like the company, don’t take the job. But here they are bashed and called names. I don’t know what you do for a living, but if another company came along and said, HEY we are one of the WORST in the industry right now, but we will pay you the same, want to come to LONG ISLAND? We might have half the arena filled for the BIG games…

    It’s a stupid rule. Maybe if it was after the trade deadline, but not before. At his age given the options, I would not play for the Islanders, if I were him. Where is the motivation? All he will end up doing is being miserable and making his stats worse. He has paid his dues and can afford to be picky now.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  5. Gormdog says:

    He can be as picky as he wants, but he put himself in this situation (subjugated to waivers) by passing on the best league in the world for the money (he waited for an offer that was worth his time and never got it.. THEN went to Russia, remember?). I am happy Snow, or anyone else, picked him up.

     

  6. shiram says:

    Well that doesnt really warrant much attention, its barely a nod!

  7. Say Ash says:

    just like McGuire’s GM quest

  8. Gormdog says:

    They got assets for Roloson. So they sacrifice a bit this year to get alot over the next years (Hopefully). There is a cost/benefit analysis.

     

    With Nabokov, there is no cost. So it’s a risk free way of helping your team, in the now, without having to give anything up.

     

    Building towards the future and playing well in the present are NOT mutually exclusive concepts.

     

    Geez, didn’t anyone read my posts yesterday? 😛

  9. shiram says:

    hehe nice one

  10. shiram says:

    But really how much can Nabokov help the Isles this year?

    And no I didnt read your post yesterday, i read alot, but there is tons of stuff posted on here!

  11. Gormdog says:

    Many ways.

     

    How do you think the players felt when Wiz and Rollie were traded away? THe moves might help the team in the future but certainly hurt it for the time being. It would make me very happy, as an Isle, to get a real NHL goalie playing behind me.

     

    Also, Nabo would be a good mentor (NYI bitterness notwithstanding) for the other goalies in the system.

     

    A team woefully low on seasoned vets, gets a chance, for peanuts, to add a solid goalie who has seen it all before.

     

    Agreed that Snow sacrificed this season re:playoffs (which were never happening anyways), but that doesnt mean he can’t still makes moves to help his team now (better goaltending) and for the future (veteran leadership and experience) for literally nothing but being third last place. He has NOTHING to lose, so why not?

  12. Mattyleg says:

    Sorry Joey, I don’t see it as a stupid rule at all.

    Every other player (except for rookies) are signed to one-way contracts (with very very few exceptions). Every player needs to go through waivers to pass in and out of the NHL. Players from ANY other league should be no exception. Especially in Nabby’s situation.

    Sure he can play where he wants, but he shouldn’t have been so dumb as to put himself in this situation! I’m sure plenty of players have told their coaches that they don’t want to be traded to certain teams, and that is taken into account when negotiating trades, but we don’t hear about it. I think that it just shows a poor attitude.

    Do you think that SK was right in not reporting to the Bulldogs?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  13. joeybarrie says:

    I disagree. Nabby didn’t want to do any of those things. The desire to play and help a team has to be there for a player. If not, then what is he doing there? It’s not as is, Nabby said he would not play for the Isles but would for any other team. The whole deal was to come back on the condition he play with the Wings, the team that offered him the deal. NYI simply tried to steal him, based on a particular rule.

    I have nothing againt Snow if he had of put him right back on waivers, but what is the point of suspending him? It simply shows Snow is a poor sport when he doesn’t get what he wants. Why would anyone want a player who does not want to play for your team? Snow dug his own grave by trading players away when they were starting to have some forward movement with their latest draft picks. Then they trade away Rolly and Wiz and try to steal someone they had no business with.

    HE DID NOT WANT TO JOIN THE ISLES… IN EVERY FACET OF THE WORLD, YOU SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE TO WORK FOR ANYONE YOU DO NOT WANT TO. Why is the NHL different?

    IT MAKES NO SENSE. However, Nabby CHOSE to sign in the KHL this season, and now he is paying the Price. I have no pity for him either.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  14. Lazarus_taxa says:

    I think there is a lot to bash the Isles about, but I do not understand why anyone would bash Snow for this move.  From a business perspective, any GM with cap space that passes up the opportunity to grab a decent asset FOR NOTHING is making a bad move.  When you are stuck in the basement of the league you might as well use the rare powers that you have for being there, like snatching up good players on waivers.  We can argue about his playoff performances, but the fact of the matter is, Nabokov is a proven NHL goaltender signed at a ridiculously low price.  The Isles need goaltending…. they took a chance, and now there is probably some backdoor dealing going on to get him back on waivers.  In the end, the Isles may benefit from something and they need everything they can get……or maybe Snow is just an a**

  15. Gormdog says:

    Yep. They both sort of look like numbnuts now. I think the big question is whether Snow legitimatly thought  Nabs would play for the isles (delusional/hopeful), knew he would refuse but did not anyone else to get him (douchy), or took him with the hope of parlaying Nabs into some form of asset in return (wise but tough).

    Wait… why do we care so much about this?

  16. Chuck says:

    Nabokov knew that part of coming back to the NHL would include going through waivers. He got claimed, and now he’s acting like a spoiled brat… So Garth’s told him to sit in the corner for a time out.

    What’s the big deal?

  17. Psycho29 says:

    Discussion on CKAC this afternoon concerning Kirk Muller & the Coaching sitaution in Montreal, etc….

    To Translate what Michel Bergeron said:

    “If the Montreal Canadiens cannot find a francophone head coach, don’t worry…..in a couple of years the new Quebec City team will find one.”

    I guess that pretty well sums it up…

     

  18. Mark C says:

    By suspending Nappy now, I believe there is a loop hole in the CBA that would allow the NYI to hold his rights next year.

  19. joeybarrie says:

    If SK did not want to play for the Bulldogs, then yes he was right in not reporting. He also has to suffer the consequences and right now it means playing in Nashville. Good enough team, but no real future. His quality of life had to take a huge step back, as he was in the right city to begin with. To me Montreal (outside of Hockey) is a better suited place for him. However he though he was bigger than the team. He learned his lesson and now plays in the Bible Belt to a half full arena of country music lovers. Stanley Cup???? No chance. But he did learn a lesson. Players like that are not good for a team in the long run. Now that being said, let’s remember that the MONTREAL CANADIENS picked him, trained him, developed him and put their faith in himself and his Brother. The Habs gave him many opportunities he would not have gotten with other teams, including playing in London. In my personal opinion he is an IDIOT for not reporting. He OWED the Habs.

    Nabokov owes absolutely NOTHING to the Isles. He did nothing to them, and had no interest in them either way. Thats the difference. I do not think it shows a poor attitude. Nabby has paid his dues to the league and the teams he has played for. He honored his contract with them.

    As for the rules, I think if it is before the trade deadline and a player wants to join a team from another league, WHO HAS FULLFILLED HIS PREVIOUS NHL CONTRACT. And was considered upon his departure an UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENT, and in good standing, I do not understand why he is suddenly RESTRICTED. Especially in a league where it does not work both ways, because they have no interest or need for a release from the NHL. Also of note, it is not ANY other league. It is a whole different system. If it was something within the NHL, like the AHL, ECHL, the Q, or any other league affiliated with the NHL then I can understand. But the KHL has no affiliation with the NHL and chooses not to have any…

    After the trade deadline I think it would have been fair, as no other team would be capable of doing something similar on fair ground.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  20. Mattyleg says:

    As I posted above, Snow is doing his job by suspending a player who belongs to the club who refuses to show up when asked.

    What Nabokov ‘says’ (as in “I only want to play for Detroit”) means absolutely nothing. It’s like a player saying that he will only play when the other team puts their first line on the ice. It’s so much hot air that has nothing to do with the game, the rules, or what anybody else wants.

    The rules are made by the NHL, the league that Nabokov wanted to play in, and he chose to ignore them because he seemed to think that they do not apply to him, for some reason.

    Snow is not blocking Nabokov from playing for the Wings. The only reason that Snow didn’t go for him is because he probably knew that another team would claim him off waivers! Like he did! Like San Jose did with Wellwood!

    The rule is there to prevent teams from bringing players in and out of the league whenever they want.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  21. joeybarrie says:

    By taking advantage of a rule, and blocking Nabby from playing anywhere else. He literally STOLE him and that was the risk that they took. I do not feel sorry for them, nor do I feel bad for Nabby. He made his bed when he left the NHL, but he didn’t screw anyone over. It was known from BEFORE he even agreed to terms he would not join anyone who picked him up on waivers.

    Its not about refusing to play, its about taking the offer that was given to him and then being forced by the league to go play elsewhere. It was Snow’s right to try and pick him up, and he FAILED. So he retaliates by suspending him. Nabby NEVER agreed to play for the Isles. So to me, you simply put him back on waivers, as you never invested ANYTHING in him to begin with, cause you simply tried to steal him.

    WHY SUSPEND HIM? WHAT IS THE BENEFIT THERE??? WHAT MAKES IT OK FOR SNOW TO BLOCK HIM FROM GOING ANYWHERE ELSE?

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  22. joeybarrie says:

    Sbow didn’t attempt to try to get Nabby, and if he did then he FAILED. Detroit didn’t fail to have him show up. Everything else you say, to me, shows that Snow is simply being an a-hole. It is within his rights. But it will hurt him in the long run. There is no point in NOT PUTTING HIM BACK ON WAIVERS. Nabby will not play for them. That is how he is holding him ransom. The risk was there, so FINE. It was known, but still. Ask yourself this. If you were Detroit, would you EVER deal with Snow again, unless you were screwing him over?????

    I wouldn’t. And I think that Snow will soon be GONE. Cause he did nothing here, but block a player. He didn’t get the player, he failed, then he took a fit and suspended him. Serves no purpose.

    I STILL HAVENT SEEN ANYONE ANSWER ME WHAT PURPOSE IT SERVES TO SUSPEND HIM…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  23. Mattyleg says:

    There is no ‘taking advantage of a rule’. The rules are there, and the GMs play by them.

    Snow did not fail to pick him up. He picked him up. Nabokov belongs to NYI, regardless of what he says. Suspending him does not block him from going anywhere else; owning him does. As Snow owns Nabokov. And when… (as I’ve said).

    Imagine if Snow said “Oh, you don’t want to play for us? Oh, okay, here, go back on waivers.” Then New Jersey picks him up. Well congratulations, Snow, you’ve been had.

    Snow’s doing the right thing. Every GM would agree.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  24. joeybarrie says:

    I also disagree with the NHL being different. Yes the teams compete, however they are ALL part of the same company, THE NHL… There is a company union, and director meetings and a president that presides over all teams like divisions within a certain company.

    Basically when they trade players it is as if to me a CEO decides to send his VP of Sales to become the VP of Distribution of something. If you do not want to do what the company wants you to do you have a few option depending on how you were hired, or you can simply quit and go work for a different company (LIKE THE KHL).

    Nabby was hired to become the head of the Detroit office (so he could be close to his kids as an example of motivation) and they decided to sent him to New York where he would be far from his family (again only as an example of motivation) and the cost of living is alot higher.

    To me there is no difference. He either sgrees to what the company wants to do with him, or he quits. The only thing wrong here is the VP of the North East district who wants to steal the companies new aquisition to make his area better than the North Central Division, despite the knowledge that the employee wanted to be close to his family.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  25. Psycho29 says:

    Good for Garth Snow….the rule is there to keep the top/rich teams from grabbing players who left the NHL on their own or had to leave because nobody had room for their massive contract demands.

    Maybe now he will go back on waivers and a team like Ottawa will take him. And he won’t report there and THEY can suspend him….

     

  26. Mattyleg says:

    Because it could happen to any team.

    And it’s also funny when players have hissy fits and throw tantrums.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  27. shiram says:

    So the company (nhl) via it’s rules state that Nabo should report to NYI, even though he would prefer CHI, and when he doesnt respond or show, the GM of the NYI office suspends him, or whatever else corporate lingo you wanna substitute in. It’s still the same thing, if he works for the nhl, he should work where they tell him to work.

    And the rules set in made it so he had to report to NYI, he didnt, band suspended.

  28. habs365 says:

    If I was the Habs I wouldn’t be concerned about fighting..I’d be concerned about putting points on the board..philly can put points on the board and fight..the Habs are a little behind them in that department..if the Habs defence fails..it will be an easy 2pts for Philly..offence, the Habs no match..defence Habs hands down..bring home the 2pts Habby’s……

  29. joeybarrie says:

    How has Snow been had if another team claims him? NABOKOV WILL NOT PLAY FOR NEW YORK ISLANDERS. SNOW GETS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NO MATTER WHAT. THERE IS NO WIN FOR HIM. No possibility that anything good can come of this suspension. WHAT DOES SNOW GAIN IN ANY SITUATION????

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  30. HabFanSince72 says:

    I wouldn’t bet on a Quebec City team in a couple of years – even if we stretch the definition of “couple”.

     

    They have no stadium, and no money for a stadium. More importantly, nobody who controls the sport wants another team in Canada: not the League, not the American owners, not the Canadian owners (why do you think they all blackballed Balsillie?).

  31. joeybarrie says:

    The difference between Nabby and Wellwood is simply this. Wellwood did not say to begin with he would only play for St. Louis or quit. When San Jose picked him up, they thought he would want to play with them. FAIR GAME. Wellwood went to play for San Jose. If he said NO I REFUSE TO PLAY, and San Jose chose to suspend him, then i would say NO no more dealing with SJ. Cause if he wanted to play he would have and if not the WHY NOT PUT HIM BACK ON WAIVERS. WHY CHOOSE TO SUSPEND HIM. HE MADE NO DEAL WITH SJ.

    STILL NO ONE HAS ANSWERED WHY SUSPEND HIM. Just simply stating they OWN him…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  32. Mattyleg says:

    By agreeing to come into the NHL he ticked the box saying “I know that any team could pick me up off waivers.”

    If you tick the box saying that you’d be willing to work anywhere, and then afterwards tell them (orally and un-bindingly) that you’d only work in one city, regardless of what you’d ticked when you signed your contract, they’d throw you out on your ear, and brand you as a contract-breaker. Or they’d sue you.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  33. Mattyleg says:

    Because players don’t choose where they go. The GMs choose that.

    If a player disagrees, then the GM suspends them. That’s the way it works.

    Snow’s life doesn’t change, but Nabokov is punished for breaking the rules.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  34. joeybarrie says:

    Unrestricted Free Agents do choose where they want to go. I still think the rule is ridiculous. The only thing they lose by signing a player late in the season is not having him at the beginning. AGAIN, only if it is before the trade deadline. There should be no additions after that from outside your club.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  35. Storm Man says:

    You’re on here calling someone a douche and talking about juvenile acts. Triple that just shows what you have been doing on here, You make yourself look more like a loser eachday.

     

     

    “I have never failed at anything in my life so far… TripleX 12/23/2010 16:34pm”

  36. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    The reason why they are suspending him is to get him to play. I believe that if he goes the rest of the season under suspension for not reporting, his contract will extend to next season. The Islanders will have him under contract for $500k (or so) and will be able to deal his rights to any team without him having to clear waivers.

    I could be wrong here, but I beieve that’s how it works. Either the Isles get him this year, or they get him next year. If he won’t report again next year, they have a low-contract asset to trade that doesn’t have to pass waivers. Seems like a pretty good move.

  37. J_P says:

    Yeah but all that is irrelevant because it was a Douche move for Garth to claim him in the first place. 

    I dont necessarily agree with Nabokov, but he appeared to have learnt his lesson when he signed a meagre $750K deal to sign with a playoff contender.  Obviously he was going to be claimed before he ever got to Detroit, but common, the Islanders?

    Garth probably wanted to sign Nabokov to showcase him for a trade, and now he got hosed.  If Garth actually thought Nabokov would play there he’s even more dillusional than I thought!

  38. TripleX says:

    Anyone arguing that the move by Garth Snow was just business and not the act of a childish poor sport.  This might change your mind.

    Well under the CBA, if Nabokov remains suspended he will be stuck with that small contract next season and forfeits his UFA status.

    Snow knew Nabokov would not play for his team and now he suspends him instead of trading him or puting him back on waivers.  I wonder how players in the NHL and other GMs feel about Garth Snow.

  39. slapshot777 says:

    Unless Quebec can drum up major investors there will be a no go on the team. If they think the Feds are going to pony up the dough than they can forget about the team right now. With regards to Quebec having a team that’s only helps the Habs, because Quebec will be the team everyone expects to have these francophone players and coaches and the Habs get left alone to do what they want and put  whatever player or coach they want in that position.

    It’s a win win for the Habs. The Quebecois will suffocated the Nordiques and the Habs can concentrate more on the hockey side like the rest of the NHL teams. Concentrate more on winning a cup, not which french person can we best put in that position even though he is not the best candidate for the job.

     

    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  40. Habfan4lfe says:

    Demers. Says it all. To be honest, it’s this idiocy of forcing the french language down everyone throats that has messed this club up. Instead of putting a good coach on the bench we got Martin. 97% of the Candiens players are non-Quebecois. Anyone and everyone can see how idiotic it is to say we need a francophone coach. This is the NHL, it’s not Montreal’s business. It’s Bettmans. And Demers, he should have stayed out of the NHL. He’s way passed his time and 3/4 of the time it’s just utter nonsense coming out of his big bouche.

  41. TripleX says:

    Quebec is putting tremendous political pressure on the Feds to help fund the new arena. 

    Apparently there is a billion dollars in the budget that could be used towards building sports complexes in Regina, Winnipeg, Hamilton and Quebec City.

     

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/cough-up-arena-cash-or-kiss-quebec-votes-goodbye-bloc-tells-tories/article1882526/

  42. observer says:

    Snow owes no team any “morality” as you obviously see it as. Change the rules. Too much backroom dealing by other unscupulous GMs to allow players to be moved or sent to minors. Remember when they caught Gainey with his pants down trying to send Hainsey a young #1 pick back to Hamilton – I am sure his friends were not going to claim him.

  43. Storm Man says:

    Well under that rock you come out of from time to time. I would ask you how can Snow trade Nabokov??? you may want to read up on the CBA rules. I think you need a prendre une douche as you are stinking up the site. 

     

     

    “I have never failed at anything in my life so far… TripleX 12/23/2010 16:34pm”

  44. TomNickle says:

    Childish poor sport?  What exactly is it that Snow owes to Nabakov or Ken Holland?  I don’t think Snow should have claimed him, but I’m not going to support Nabakov and Meehan in this deal.

    Nabakov went to the KHL because he wasn’t being offered the kind of money he wanted.  So now he comes back and signs to play with the Red Wings due to his desire to play for a Cup Contender.  Fact is, if he hadn’t left the NHL under the conditions that he did he wouldn’t be in this situation.  He knew the risks in signing with the Wings and having to clear waivers.  He’s willing to sit at home and pout, that’s fine too.  Is Snow an idiot because he claimed Nabakov?  Yeah.  He traded Roloson and has shipped out as many assets as possible in an effort to tank, he’s trying to lose, and that’s disgusting.  So why claim a veteran goalie on waivers?  He’s obviously doing it so that he can hold him until the deadline and wait for teams to come calling who missed out on him through the waiver wire, and that’s a shrewd move by a general manager who wants to acquire assets.  Is it right?  I don’t think so, but I don’t think losing on purpose is either.  I also don’t think it’s right to double dip.  Meaning sign in the KHL because you aren’t being offered the money you want and then come back to the NHL with this self righteous attitude that you can cure a contenders goaltending problems when the fact of the matter is he hasn’t won anything significant in the NHL himself.  This is one big circus, Snow and Nabakov deserve each other so he may as well just report.  Two peas in a pod.

     

  45. Everlasting1 says:

    Pathetic. No self respecting Habs fan would have such lofty expectations.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  46. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    How is that not “just business”? He either gets an experienced goalie for cheap this year, or gets a cheap, tradeable asset for next year. That seems like pretty good business overall.

  47. JIMVINNY says:

    Gretz is pissed at the NHL for screwing him out of millions of dollars when they took over the Coyotes.  Until that is taken care of, he isn’t going to do anything to help them out.

  48. MikeC says:

    Snow cannot trade nabokov, he can only put him back on waivers. Do your homework TripleX

     

  49. Storm Man says:

    I think you need to return that magic 8ball Triple, It’s sounds alot like when you came on here telling us all that Apple would be the number one company at the end of the year. So what happened with that????. Back to the back of the bus Triple and try again. 

     

    “I have never failed at anything in my life so far… TripleX 12/23/2010 16:34pm”

  50. punkster says:

    Lorne, I take a different view of this than you and of the others who have responded. Take it for what it is; a laughable attempt by Snow (a notrious locker room joker when he was a player) to teach both the league and an egotistical player and his manager a lesson in business. There’s been alot of that going on this season (the Kovy II deal) and I would expect even more as the CBA negotiations get close.

    It’s a game. It really is just that.

    ***Subbang!!!***

  51. TomNickle says:

    I find it much more likely that he’s trying to get into the good graces of the general managers who compete with the Red Wings for a playoff spot.

  52. GrimJim says:

    Ottawa considers paying for stadiums with unspent $1-billion

    BILL CURRY, DANIEL LEBLANC and SEAN GORDON

    Ottawa and Montreal— From Tuesday’s Globe and Mail

    Federal Conservatives are eyeing an unspent pot of more than $1-billion from the 2008 budget as a way of funding pro-sports venues without coughing up new cash.

    The only problem with tapping into the P3 Canada Fund – managed by a Crown corporation and designed for projects with other governments and the private sector – is that the rules specifically forbid spending the money on facilities “primarily” used for pro sports.

  53. punkster says:

    That too, and in fact most likely because there is profit in that position. I just find it all humourous because the rules are so full of holes. As are so many GM positions…mostly the “a” type holes 😉

    ***Subbang!!!***

  54. GrimJim says:

    So while, you are technically correct, Triple X, do you really expect a Conservative government – lead by the former head of the biggest right-wing anti-government-spending watchdog in Canada – to flip-flop on the eve of an election, while running a federal deficit and claiming that they need to cut services and jobs, to spend $1 billion on pro sports facilities?

    Put all the “pressure” you want on Harper, he’s smart enough to know political suicide when he sees it…

  55. 24moreCups says:

    So Kirk is gone after this season, because he wants to try out a head couching job.

  56. TomNickle says:

    I absolutely love that Leaf fans are piling on Senators fans right now. And I have the following bit of information for Jeff(typical Leaf fan)if he’s kicking around. The Senators have Jared Cowan, Robin Lehner and Erik Karlsson to build around, oh, and a lottery pick this coming off-season, and the Leafs have Nazem Kadri, and, and, and………..well, that appears to be all. I do like Keith Aulie but if anyone can screw him up the Leafs can.  So you can pencil the Senators in for one of Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Sean Couturier or Adam Larsson.

  57. Say Ash says:

    What a jerk, eh?

  58. WestHab says:

    Happy Robbie Burns Day!

    Just in case you needed a reason to drink scotch during the game. We are doing haggis as well so I’ll be putting the pvr to use.

    – Who will be at the Heritage Classic?

  59. Everlasting1 says:

    The real coach behind the bench.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  60. solomio says:

    Ian

     

    I really hope you’re trying to be funny with that statement.

  61. TripleX says:

    I aplologize for the error, although I don’t believe it greatly altered my overall argument.

    Why the vitriol?

  62. TripleX says:

    Perhaps, but then that only buttresses my argument that it was more personal than business.

    Practical jokes are one thing, but playing with someone’s life is a douche move.

  63. TripleX says:

    I imagine if you advised your “clients” to buy Apple stock like my father and I did last year, they would be VERY happy.

  64. punkster says:

    Fine, just stop repeating that word please. Call him an ass or a fool.

    ***Subbang!!!***

  65. Say Ash says:

    Well, it’s Tuesday. But your reason is good, too. Guess I’ll crack open the Lagavulin. Cheers.

  66. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    Posting this again because half you commenters nauseate me and I must spew something….

    This is more of a reply to the posts below than it is to the original post but people… GET OVER IT! If you live in Québec, as does the Habs organization, you live in a province with the official language of FRENCH with a culture that is RECOGNIZED BY YOUR CANADIAN CONSTITUTION AS A DISTINCT NATION, and has the right to protect its culture and promote its language as it sees fit. The Canadiens are a team in a majority FRANCOPHONE city in an overwhelmingly FRANCOPHONE province. Since DAY ONE this team has been oriented toward and supported by the FRANCOPHONE COMMUNITY. The fact that the organization chooses to have coaches that can communicate with the people who have supported this team from the bginning and from which it drew its talent that enabled them to have the past success that they have is THEIR perogative and one that I agree with. Do you know the name of this team? Do you know what it means? And no, “CANADIENS” doesn’t represent the players in the uniform, but the city they play for, just like any other team name.

    As an ubiased outsider, an American with no significant Québecois ancestry to my knowledge, I am routinely disgusted by both anglophone media and the comments from anglo-Canadians. I read more Canadian news, politics, and history than I probably should, and really do not understand what exactly your problem is, those of you who have this itch that needs to be scratched by bashing the French heritage of Québec. The truth is, without Québec and its culture, your country would cease to exist in any significant form. So go on, tell them to “go ahead and leave if they don’t wanna be there” etc etc. What a joke. Be careful what you wish for. If that WERE to happen I suppose then you can about the redneck culture of your western provinces like Alberta that control your country in order to stay “different” from us south of the border… but then you’d just be Texas North. Read some history instead of stat sheets and get over it.

    And anyone who doesn’t think Harper will do a 180 on anything to get a spare vote is nuts and or ignorant. He’s been a flip flopping joke since elected. He will change his mind on anything for poltical expedience, and there will be plenty of money for that Québec arena sooner or later, regardless of how shady the back room dealings are.

  67. Storm Man says:

    I told them to buy apple stock 5 years ago. Tell your dad he is a little behind the times.

     

    “I have never failed at anything in my life so far… TripleX 12/23/2010 16:34pm”

  68. LA Loyalist says:

    Wow. Ok. How briefly can I do this?

    1. The concept of Canada is that of an equal partnership between the French and English cultures wherein each is equal. You are entitled to be served in an Alberta government office in French. You are entitled to be served in English by a Quebec City government worker (bon chance).

    2. The majority of Quebecois are fine with this arrangement. The problem is a minority of separatists who have used their position to blackmail the rest of the country by continually threatening to leave. What few are willing to remember is Rene Levesque did not get power because of a popular support for separatism, the vote was a reaction to the corruption of the Duplessis government, but the separatists took it as a carte blanche for their agenda. So obviously your reading of Quebec history is incomplete.

    3. Do you realize how much Quebec has suffered culturally and economically since the 80’s because of the ruling class’s unwillingness to evolve past their parochial paradigm? And don’t say it’s the Anglo’s fault – the separatists don’t like the “Francais du France” either, there was  a large influx in the 70’s and 80’s to Quebec of young French people because Paris was so expensive – and many of them have moved on to LA and New York, or god forbid, Toronto, because of local hostility. I lived through this and witnessed dozens of incidents.

    4. There used to be large dynamic communities in Montreal of Jewish, Greek, and many other cultures. The whole garment industry for the country was centered around St. Laurent. These are greatly diminished now, gone to Toronto, to the loss of Montreal.

    I am an anglo-Canadian. I studied in France. I lived in Montreal for some years and became a Habs fan in 1984. I have lived in California since 2000. And I can tell you with great authority that if you don’t see a difference between English Canada and the U.S. you are not paying attention and just “spewing” (your word) some agenda I can’t decipher.

    You would be stunned by how many Anglo and French Canadians are here in Los Angeles – and I guaranty you many of us would never have left if not for Rene Levesque and his heirs.

    No one is bashing French culture or heritage. We bash a minority of blackmailers who refuse to honor their agreed obligation to treat both cultures equally. Is that clear enough for you?

     

  69. TripleX says:

    Well, if that is indeed true?  Why would I doubt you?

    Since Apple stock has increased in value by 1400% over the last five years, you and your “clients” must be quite happy.  You must work simply as a diversion and a hobby.  Yes?

     

     

  70. LA Loyalist says:

    thanks for the reminder TripleX. I sold Apple at $99 because I needed a tax loss. That makes me nearly as dumb as a Leaf fan.

  71. observer says:

    Toe Blake was French. But Bob Gainey, Bob Berry and Al McNeil were not.

  72. Storm Man says:

    You’re that dumb a person I see Triple. There is not correct usage for the term Douche when talking about someone, It shows a low act of class and only people with a short vocabulary or a low class of living use that term when talking about someone. As for the therapy sessions I hope one day they will work for you.

     

    “I have never failed at anything in my life so far… TripleX 12/23/2010 16:34pm”

  73. zak says:

    My mistake thanks for the corection

  74. Storm Man says:

    You’re pathetic and it is funny how you try and turns things around here. You’re the one who came on here calling someone a douche, So the only hypocrite on this site is you and you only. When you become correct about something I will let you know. It is unfair in the way I keep pointing out the truth about you.

     

    “I have never failed at anything in my life so far… TripleX 12/23/2010 16:34pm”

  75. JohnBellyful says:

    Nicely put. Concisely done.

  76. A. Berke says:

    I’m not an anonymous poster, my name and pic is right here (unlike yourself).

    Also, I’m not delusional (like some posters who appear to be full of themselves) and I know that Mr. Molson or anyone else in the Habs Management will not heed what I say or post; however, this is a place where I can went my frustrations and I’m doing so.

    Ali B.

  77. habs 17 says:

    yeah but the only problem is a loss is a loss got to stop them all against philly

  78. mrhabby says:

    lmao..how true.

  79. nunacanadien says:

    I think bringing Wiz helps with the scoring.  If we can find someone that Gomez can continually pass to and get an assist, I forgive Gomez.  But alas all the trades so far and PG still hasn’t found a talented scorer to pair up with Gomez.

    I say get rid of Gomez and just concentrate on scoring by crashing the net like MaxPac.  You need size to do that PG, not some 5 foot tall midget.

  80. nunacanadien says:

    What about trading Gomez and Spacek for Iginla, move a cheerleader and a penalty scoring shooter, and roughly the same dollar figures I figure with a bit of room to wiggle left over, a great deal considering just how much we overpay Gomez.

    The flames need a cheerleader, and Gomez with his pom poms would fit the bill nicely.,.

  81. shootdapuck says:

    You had to be playing Xbox or something!

    The penalties in the first period were for the most part lazy penalties by players with one hand on their sticks, out of position and chasing the Flyers around.

    The only negative thing that could be said about the officiating was that they seemed to be out of position and in the middle of the play more than in recent memory!

     

     

     

    “I only like to watch and takes notes” JM

  82. RC-51 says:

    According to above we are below .500 There’s no chance of making the playoffs now!

  83. HabsFanInTampa says:

    If it weren’t for Price, we would have lost 12-2.

  84. adam76 says:

    Are you for real?

  85. Kooch7800 says:

    I hought DD played well also.  Basically our rookies were the only ones that were noticeable.  PK didn;t look so hot though either

  86. JoeC says:

    What game did you watch? Really your blaming the refs on this? Spachek is a god damn BUM that was a TERRIBLE penalty he took to put it 5v3, that was an obvious hold, hell ive seen that kinda holding in football! and PK did highstick that short bastard Brier, but it was a penalty .  Stop blaming the refs or atleast watch the game before you guess it was the refs

     

  87. Everlasting1 says:

    The Count Censored..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Wd-Q3F8KM

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  88. The Cat says:

    Thats right he didnt get to where he is by taking advice from message boards, he got it by being born into it!

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  89. patience is a virtue says:

    I was playing pond hockey and only caught the last 30mins.  It was frustrating not to score on that string of third period PPs (which serves to balance all the ref-bias-moaning, at least for last night, doesn’t it?).  On the whole, PP+ES, Montreal outplayed Philly during the third, as should be expected when a team is trying to come back.  They got one, but couldn’t convert the follow up.  Philly scores on an open net.  Remember – that was a 4-2 game.

    I’m not sure where the impression comes from that we suck or that the Flyers were so vastly superior last night (the last 30mins, nor the shot totals, certainly didn’t reveal it).  It’s easy to be far superior playing 5-3.  That, and a couple of saves by Bobrovsky’s post, seemed to be the difference-makers in a competative game. 

    Yet, I expect fire and brimstone round here.  Most disappointing is that Boone is leading the negativity with his tact and tone in Quick Hits.  It’s not just perrenial whine-boxes like Man Apart.  I like reading those who take a dimmer view on the team, especially when they provide evidence for their opinions.  But I don’t like the atmosphere created by our fearless leader/moderator Boone preaching Habs mediocrity every chance he gets. 

    Our team has done well since coming out of their terrible slump, despite injuries.  They played the top team in the division (the NHL?) and played them hard.  Sure Philly is tougher, deeper, less-injured, on-a-hot-streak, etc. But last time I checked we are 4 points out of 5th and 2 points out of 3rd.  Not back off the bubble yet, but respectably making our way in that direction since the slump ended.

    Take advantage of the break and come back hard boys!  A good balance of tougher and weaker oponents coming in Feb.

  90. Wayne says:

    Ditto, LOL…

  91. Wayne says:

    I don’t see it either. Cut him loose.

  92. Habnofear says:

    Count Chocula,perfect….lol

  93. light_n_tasty says:

    What’s so great about Muller?

  94. A. Berke says:

    He also was the culprit for too many men penalty (4th philly goal).

    After a year and a half I’m still very puzzled for the love fest JM has vis-a-vis gomer. What is he good for anyway? What a waste of money, uniform and valuable space in the roster.

    Ali B.

  95. A. Berke says:

    It appears that Muller’s departure come late Spring/early Summer is pretty much a certainty.

    Can we peddle Count Chocula to the Sens (they need someone or two) and keep Capt. Kirk instead?

    Hellooo Mr. Molson! What do you say?

    Even a move for chocula to upstairs would be fine.

    And, Oh! yes he took the team to ECF (how could I forget?), now let’s see if he can take the team to the second round (if we can make it to the big dance in the first place).

    Ali B.

  96. light_n_tasty says:

    You don’t deal well with adversity, do you.

  97. The Cat says:

    Philly can beat a team in so many ways, Montreal just has one way really. Until Montreal gets size down the middle, they will lose 75% of their games against a team like Philly…When you break it down, philly is as good or better at every position on the ice.

     

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  98. Duracell3 says:

    Hopefully we can score in more than 2 games in the series this time.

  99. Rainrocket16 says:

    We beat ourselves tonight, and we gonna beat ourselves every game when we take stupid penalties. Yes the Refs sucked, but they didn’t suck until it was already over. Can only blame ourselves for this one. I think we need to seriously get some size ladies and gents..we get tossed around a little too much, no reason we can’t trade a small guy for a top 6 forward, it is possible. Iginla must be a thought no? we will never contend unless we get size!

  100. caper_5 says:

    Picture says it all. Jeff Carter all alone in front of Price waiting to send home the rebound. We need to get tougher on D, Philadelphia just highlights that more than other teams.

    Not calling anyone out but our best forward lines tonight were our third and fourth lines, the only time we had any sustained pressure.

    I know the penalties are questionable, but we make it too easy for the referees to call, we stop skating and reach with our sticks far too much. These Pansie slashing penalties are weak calls, but when you are slashing on the hands and not playing the puck or taking the body, it’s just an easy call for the referee to make.

    I firmly believe we are a playoff team and playoff bound, but we need to work smarter and not harder than a team like Philadelphia.

  101. Ferg says:

    Admittedly, I couldn’t watch any more after the early 2nd period penalty (Weber?) but what I did see embarassed me. The referees took control of another game and we let them do it with lazy plays. And I don’t care if every penalty was deserved, Jacques Martin has to raise hell after that 3rd penalty in the 1st period and let the refs know he is pissed. Lindy does it, Laviolette does it, but Count Chocula just stands there and takes it. He’s a professional victim. Never stands up for his team. We already lost Boucher. If Molson’s lets Muller walk and keeps this cadaver, they deserve to never raise the Cup again.

  102. AH says:

    I hope Mr. PG had a good long look tonight…there is your roadblock to getting out of the East, the Flyer Scum. So is there anyone out there who still think no deals need to be done at trade deadline? How many pp’s did we have in the third with nothing to show for it?, 3,4,5 pp’s? We need a big scorer BADLY! Then we have Hartnell absolutely PASTE DD, then did you see him pretty much daring any Hab to challenge him? Did any Hab make him pay?, nope! We need a bruiser who can make guys like Hartnell think twice about running our smallest player in a 4 -1 game. Why did he do it?, BECAUSE HE KNEW HE COULD GET AWAY WITH IT AGAINST OUR SMURF TEAM, and that is sad; Pronger throwing his weight around, Carcillo being his usual dick self etc., etc.

    It was men against boys out there again, if PG makes no changes then it’s an early exit. If he gets the right pieces then we have a legitimate shot at number 25, but IMO the road to the cup goes through Filthydelphia and that means one main requirement: truculence!

    Your move(s) PG!

  103. HNS says:

    Hope we play these scumbags in the playoffs

  104. Cool Ice Price says:

    27-28-5 WHAT?

     

     

     

    Habs Passion unites us all

  105. Laramy87 says:

    How was JM has a GM… I know he was GM in florida did he do a decent job?

    Muller coach, JM as GM???? Muller is one of my all time fav habs it would suck if we lost him

  106. theremster says:

    As usual the Canadiens barely showed up. Don’t get me wrong, im a Habs fan, but this team just doesnt cut it. Gmez is a waste of money, we have no big scorers, or authority figures. Point is, even if the Habs make the playoffs, its like driving on a dead end. Time to manage this team properly.

  107. Ton says:

    no thank you on martin as gm, muller would be a big loss……………so what if he can’t speak french give him a tranlator that follows him everywhere. muller as head coach…………

  108. HNS says:

    Oh they showed up alright. They showed up and took some dumb ass penalties. They showed up with an all choke PP. They showed up and stepped on their own wangs. Disgraceful !!!! 

  109. habs365 says:

    I think the outcome was predicted..after watching the game..when the Habs scoring percentage was 6.5 compared to Phillys at 14.3 that pretty much says it all..offence again..I know you’re gonna blame the penalties.. it didn’t help but you also have to score and we didn’t score enough..no matter what happened we’re doing good with what we have..anyone expecting miracles is gonna be left very frustrated….

  110. HNS says:

    I agree. Philthy’s luck can’t last forever. It has to be better than Booins total choke job from last year. Bring em on. Besides, they’re due for an injury riddled 2nd 1/2

  111. Bugs says:

    I’m sick of losing to these guys. I friggin hate’em. Lucky bastiches.

    The Devils won’t make it. Caners have but a wee chance. Of all the banes of our existence, only the Flyers stand in our way…

    Let us pray someone wipes’em out afore we face’em. A-ooooum.

  112. Laramy87 says:

    Actually Pacioretty jumped right in ther, but Mezaros jumped in and got a hold of him before MaxPac could get in there

  113. habs365 says:

    you must not have been on this site much..majority of the fans don’t want trades..they know the Habs are not good enough to win a cup and why waste our assets on trades..so with trades we make the playoffs..big deal..we did that last year..what do we have to show for it..more new faces..really nothing else has changed..by the time april gets here..we’ll be looking for another team to help us get 8th spot again..stay away from trades and keep rebuilding with our young assets…

  114. Ton says:

    ok we need to bank this one has a learning experience and one to build on. they are the cream of the east and one needs to build a team that will have to compete with them. just like the 76 canadiens needed to do to get by the 74-75 stanley cup champions. (flyers)keep in mind they made it into the playoff last year by the skin of their teeth therefore things can change on a dime.suddenly they have become this power house. hopefully that welcomed transition can happen to us also. we need to be realistic, pitts, wash, bos, philly, and maybe tampa are classified as better teams then us.

    i would not sell out our youth, without Gorges and Markov we will not win the cup this year. i say continue to build this year, I think we have a legimate shot to make the finals if were heathy. still we need one more solid d, (i say get him via free agency during the summer), we need one more power forward with size that can score via free agency again. Anyone have suggestions? 

  115. ZimHabwe says:

    Should we make the playoffs, I pray Philly is our opponent. Why? because it is ok to lose to the best team in the east but it is so sweet if we create an upset of massive proportions again this year. I believe we can do it.

  116. SmartDog says:

    The whole team sucked.  Gionta was invisible.  Hamrlik was awful. Wiz was worse.  And Gomez, wearing the “A” for some stupid reason showed his leadership by taking the night’s first stupid rash penalty.  I know he’s going to say “I’m a veteran, I should know better” but it was a crappy start to a crappy game that followed.

    Our best players were Darche, MaxPac and Eller.  That’s saying something, and it ain’t good.

    —-

    “It bothers me…there are old coaches in the league today that don’t know how to deal with these young personalities.” – Mike Peca on JM handling of PKS

  117. Timo says:

    This team sucks. Habs won’t have a sniff of a cup in another 17 years. What a bunch of overpaid useless bums.

  118. Timo says:

    Gomez is garbage.

  119. habitat says:

    Dreadful night, this should be a wakeup call for PG. Gomez should be placed waivers immediately. Spacek should be traded or placed waivers as well. Historically, the Montreal Canadiens could at least measure up to the opponent’s physicality, especially during the famous cup runs. The team failed miserably tonight against Philadelphia, as well as last year in the playoffs. This trend will continue until changes are made.

    If management desires to win this year, I would trade Hamrlik for Robyn Regehr and a pick, Calgary can dump Hamrlik salary this summer. Next year Montreal can resign Hamrlik for half the money if need be.  Another puck moving defense men is a must. I would resign Wisniewski before the end of the season. Gorges and Markov are keepers. 

    I believe this team has talent; however we are missing 3-4 pieces.     

    The question becomes, if we give up a pick for Robyn Regehr do we sacrifice the future, in my humble opinion not severely. Here is why, a late 1st round draft pick usually goes down to minors for 2-3 seasons and develops. I believe Regehr has 2 additional contract years beyond this year. So give up a 2nd rounder if possible and Hamrlik for Regehr. We now have a wrecking ball in Regehr on defense.

    Pick up Martin Havlat for a 1st rounder, Havlat is presently signed 2014. I think Stephen Weiss could easily replace Scott Gomez for 3.1 million a season. So we trade AKOS and a pick for Weiss, Florida can dump AKOS salary this summer if they choose. Look for a forward like Wayne Simmons who brings physicality and some scoring. If so, Moen can be traded or waived.

    We have too many non scoring small grinders and small speedy forwards on this team, and we are out of balance. As a team we will never measure up to Philadelphia possibly Boston and Western teams in an extended cup run. Gomez must go or take a huge salary reduction. Gomez is a good skater, and so was Peggy Fleming in her day. Neither score goals.   

    So Gomez, Hamrlik, AKOS are gone at 15.2+ million and change.  

    In comes Regehr 4.2 mil, Havlat 5 mil, and Weiss 3.1 12.3 million – savings of 2.9 mil and better players that fit our needs for several years. Draft picks in my opinion will not bring us a cup in the next three years, especially if Gomez is still here.

    I would waive Moen and Spacek as well, upon simultaneously finding replacement pieces – Maybe Penner is a thought he has a year left beyond this year. 4.2 Million is rather hefty but he brings size, skating ability?  Kaberle is a possibility if a trade and sign could be achieved which is big question? Who do we have that Toronto would want? Probably unrealistic but I can dream. Presumption on my part that Markov will resign for less then he makes now, probably wishful thinking, but still possible.  

    ****Moen and Spacek waived or traded 5.3 million

    ****Wayne Simmons and Kaberle  

    What draft picks in 2011 will help us now, in 2012, and 2013. The answer is none. No rental players whatsoever, we do not need another repeat of Tanguay and a wasted first round pick.

     

    In 2011

    pleks cam pac

    weiss havlat gio

    desharnais pouliot darche

    halpern eller white

     

    Markov Regehr

    Wisniewski Gorges

    Gill Subban

    Spacek Weber

    Henry for Philadelphia, Boston games

     

    In 2012

    pleks cam pac

    weiss havlat gio

    desharnais pouliot darche

    halpern eller white

     

    Markov Regehr

    Wisniewski Gorges

    Gill Subban

    Weber and Henry

     

     

  120. light_n_tasty says:

    So, Boone posted a stat the other day that the PP was at like 30% or something since we got Wisniewski or however you spell it.  But  I’m pretty sure that’s been offset by the total collapse of the PK since Gorges was injured.  My guess is that it’s running at 70% or something awful.  Anyone wannna look up for me?  I’m too lazy.

  121. A. Berke says:

    Info for all posters: I’m not the one who came up with Count Chocula, another poster whose name I can’t remember now did, but I loved the nickname and I used it and I’ll do so again (there wasn’t any “copyright” on the nickname though) LOL.

    Ali B.

  122. AndyF says:

    The Habs were all over the Flyers in the first period until the refs decided to reshape the game.   And reshape they did!   That was a completely bogus set of calls, given the crap the Flyers were dishing out.   Completely ridiculous!  

     

    If the Habs are playing in a US rink, forget fairness. 

     

    AndyF

    http://andyfroncioni.com

  123. HabFanSince72 says:

    Hellooo Mr. Molson! What do you say?

    He isn’t listening. And if he was, he didn’t get where he is by taking  advice from anonymous  internet talkboards.

    (He got where he is the old fashioned way:  through inheritance.)

  124. Kooch7800 says:

    Not just size Philly has, they are a lot deeper in Talent and are just as fast as us.  The only thing MTL has on them is goaltending.

    No one in the east can beat them in a 7 game series. 

    We were outclassed for most of the game last night.  Our rookies looked a lot better than our vets.

  125. HabsFanInTampa says:

    I’m sorry, but for this one game, I cannot blame the refs. The Habs were just simply outmanned.

  126. nunacanadien says:

    The league and the Flyers have the Habs number, all they have to do is play physical and trash talk PK and Carey Price and bang, Chris Pronger and Mike Richards have the Habs where they want them in the penalty box.  I said it yesterday.  All they have to do is play physical and the overpaid veterans start getting angry over getting hurt, the rich hate to get hurt.

    Maybe its time we consider either signing a really talented small guy like Koivu, and stop signing these cheerleaders like Gomez.

  127. habs365 says:

    Timo: I’m glad someone finally see’s the real picture….excellent comment

  128. NoTinFoilCups says:

    How’s that again? You need to elaborate more. We’re not really sure where you stand on this subject.

  129. homerbowen says:

    I agree completly. Gomez must go before we have a sniff. Big boys outplayed little boys. Every effort should be made to move some (at least 2). of our smurfs.

  130. habsfan_61 says:

    is it my imagination or is this team taking way too many too many men on the icepenalties this yr.that is a sure sign of bench mismanagement right jackie martin?

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  132. matrags says:

    yes a big  long and wet sounding fart that melts the ice under richards feet….

  133. jimmy shaker says:

    That would be priceless! 

    Shaker

  134. Guy-Guy-Guy says:

    A couple of more games and he’ll have more goals than Gomez too 😉

    Desharnais is ready to produce in the big league,  I was at the Ottawa game and he fed some awesome passes to Pouliot and Darche. On a couple of odd man rushes in the third, he set up perfect plays that the wingers just couldn’t bury.  Watch him play closely,  and you see that on a mental level he is one step ahead of the game –  he goes to where the puck will be,  before it even changes direction. He’s been winning his puck battles and faceoffs too for the most part.  Best of all, he’s shown discipline when he gets hit,  he does not retaliate and take stupid penalties that hurt the team.

    Eller is not there yet, but close.  He doesn’t have the same hockey sense as DD, but hasn’t been playing as long.  He looks like he’s chasing the play, always a half second out of position, often playing catch up.  I’d see Eller as a potential 2nd line center in our lineup when the Gomez era comes to an end.  He’s strong on the puck and has a great work ethics, just not quite as smart about the game yet, and no killer instinct to bury the chances.  

    DD will probably remain a 3rd line center / PP specialist, much like Claude Giroux in Philly last year.  I find it easy to draw parallels between the two players.  Both lit up the Q but didn’t make many waves to recruiters because of their lack of size and speed.  DD is actually a bit heavier than Giroux (177 vs 172) and plays a similar game.

     

  135. SmartDog says:

    Not blaming Price – the team is sucking.  But he doesn’t look sharp.  He’s looking everywhere for the puck. He’s in that ‘sleepy’ zone.

    “It bothers me…there are old coaches in the league today that don’t know how to deal with these young personalities.” – Mike Peca on JM handling of PKS

  136. MTLForever says:

    if he takes the time in offseason to work on it, we will see a big improvement. he already is strong on the puck, has size, keeps fighting for it. 

  137. Jonson says:

    Desharnais has been a pleasent surprise, but seriously the comparison isnt even close. Eller is gonna be a lot better than Desharnais. the guy has the whole package, its just a matter of time. Lets not forget he is NOT playing center right now. He is a lot better in his natural position.

  138. Jonson says:

    penalties kill everyteam,as long we stay of the box we can beat a lot teams. Gill has been the best pk dman all year, i think he would be on any team. And he was sick last year in the playoffs so i really dont mind giving him the minutes when it comes to shut down time. Montreal will suprise you and a lot of people in the playoffs this year. not me though. its a good team with a lot of character.

  139. deuce6 says:

    Shitting the bed…Good night..

     

    —————— Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?

  140. Mad Habber says:

    I like Eller but he has to have one of the weakest shots on the team. Ah well he is young yet, lots of time to improve.

  141. zak says:

    If Muller goes to New Jersey as RDS is suggesting JM is going to refer to his note book on what would Kirk do in this situation.

  142. RC-51 says:

    upon further review it was the Olympics and the 2nd game we lost 6-2

  143. Mad Habber says:

    Well if your going to sneak an extra man out might as well do it when your shorthanded. Hey with the incomptence of the refs, they might forget that the team was supposed to be shorthanded.

  144. LTHF says:

    HAVE THE TEAM GONE THROUGH EITHER GAME THIS  YEAR WITHOUT GETTING  AT LEAST ONE TOO MANY MEN PENALTY?    iF ANYONE GOT ANY ALLUSIONS OF THIS TEAM GOING ANYWHERE THIS YEAR  WITH GILL LOGGING  THE ICE TIME HE DOES, THEN THEY WILL  BE SADLY DISAPPOINTED.  FIRST 2 SHORT HANDED GOALS HE WAS DONE ON HIS KNEES COMPLETELY OUT OF POSITION LIKE A BEACHED WHALE AND THE THIRD GOAL WAS BACK TO THE PLAY AS USUAL IN PRICE’S FACE.  FURTHER,  A BIG MAN LIKE CARTER IS GOING AROUND HIM LIKE HE HAS HIS FEET IN 2 FEET OF CEMENT—  PATHETIC IS THE ONLY WAY TO DESCRIBE IT.

  145. SmartDog says:

    LMAO

    The Count’s failed cousin Kant.

  146. RC-51 says:

    Didn’t we lose 2 games last year going into the all star game last year? And weren’t they 2 lopsided loses?

  147. Mad Habber says:

    Yeah you’d think someone nicknamed “the count” would actually be able to count.

  148. MTLForever says:

    trying to stir the pot? i’d still take eller over desharnais

  149. LA Loyalist says:

    I don’t think we have too many men. I think we have too many passengers.

  150. MTLForever says:

    i still dont get how we managed to get too many men when we were on the PK that one game. ridiculous

  151. Muckbringer says:

    the last one was in our favor and i still dont like it.  until the nhl at least tries to regulate each game im done.  muck out.

  152. SmartDog says:

    And if anything, I’d rather see too many women.

    I think JM is going senile. Seriously.  I mean, 1, 2, 3, 4…um, 6…oh dang!

    —-

    “It bothers me…there are old coaches in the league today that don’t know how to deal with these young personalities.” – Mike Peca on JM handling of PKS

  153. JohnBellyful says:

    Too late.

     Wonder how the Leafs are doin’.

  154. jennifer1984 says:

    don’t philly just scored again!

  155. oldrrty says:

    According to the CJAD broadcast it is 9 which is the second most in the NHL

    I don’t care who wins as long as Toronto doesn’t!

  156. adam76 says:

    my god, how many “too many men on the ice” calls we gonna take this season, unreal.

  157. JohnBellyful says:

    What?!! They scored?!! I’m gonna start watching the game again, see the team roar back to victory.

  158. RC-51 says:

    • Wow the refs are doing an excellent job! It also looks like we are already on vacation
  159. LA Loyalist says:

    I know what happened! JM left his little white board on the plane, so no one knows what to do.

    There’s got to be a reasonable explanation, right? After all, this is the team with intangibles!

  160. adam76 says:

    Why not put in Auld? Price needs a rest.

  161. zak says:

    JM’s defensive system at it’s best

  162. ZimHabwe says:

    ……I don’t know.

  163. adam76 says:

    Hey – the players don’t care, why should we the fans?

     

    embarrassing effort – they are not even skating, just standing.

  164. Laramy87 says:

    How was that a penalty?!?!?!?  I guess it has been about 10 mins since out last one, we needed one.

  165. observer says:

    if this doesn’t prove to gauthier he better do something big AND NOW or this team is going nowhere then its time for him and gainey both to kindly leave but thats where they will be told to go if this team misses the playoffs.

  166. SmartDog says:

    Price is in the Land of the Lost.

    —-

    “It bothers me…there are old coaches in the league today that don’t know how to deal with these young personalities.” – Mike Peca on JM handling of PKS

  167. SmartDog says:

    Total BS.

    Time to take a REAL penalty and show the refs what it looks like.  Like flatten Richards.

    “It bothers me…there are old coaches in the league today that don’t know how to deal with these young personalities.” – Mike Peca on JM handling of PKS

  168. RC-51 says:

    At least do it to try and wake this damn team up!

  169. jennifer1984 says:

    woo. maybe this goal will help them.

  170. Laramy87 says:

    We have had more jump since about the 10 min mark of this period.

    With 2 posts and alot more solid play. Keep it up. Brobosvky is fighting the puck

  171. oldrrty says:

    Is anyone else getting sick of the team not being able to beat the Flyers? I mean we hate the leafs and Bruins but at least we can beat them or it is at least a fair fight right? PG has to build a team that will beat the flyers and then and only then can we think about a 25th banner. This is not a reactionnary post to the way the game is going, as they may come back and win this one. It is an honest statement about needing to beat a dominant team that seems to always get the best of us. I am afraid of the team getting them in the playoffs again. Remember a few years ago when the team could not seem to be able to beat the rangers? A five game win streak and oh great here come the rangers. End of streak! I think that the 6 5 comeback solved that but I am afraid that it will take more then that this time!

     

    I don’t care who wins as long as Toronto doesn’t!

  172. JohnBellyful says:

    Okay, I turn it back on. In less than a minute the Habs get a penalty. Deja vu. Flyers score. I’m outta here. I get the hint.

  173. chartraw27 says:

    I love whenever we lose that  it is some type of league wide conspiracy including the refs to keep the Habs from winning. We should fire Martin and make a huge trade to cure all of our ills. Not to mention we suck and are embarrassing to the uniform.  Who should we trade tonight or in the next week? If we suck so bad, what can we get of quality to make us contenders? if we suck tonight, I would say nothing because we wont get an all star from another team for our junk.

    Yet when we win, we have tons of character and grit and intestinal fortitude. The Flyers are first overall in the NHL are they not? Maybe, they just are better than the Habs. Nah! Couldn’t be that.

  174. MTLForever says:

    tired of seeing too many men 

    if were gunna take a penalty, it better be for totally knocking someone the f out.

  175. SmartDog says:

    Way to go Pricey.  Save it for the Allstar game!

  176. MTLForever says:

    those 5 on 3s are really the nail in the coffin right now

  177. Bugs says:

    Ummm, btw, Dezzy already has more goals than Eller (not too sure about the pts)…

    Just puttin that out there.

  178. Jonson says:

    5-5 we are the better team tonight. its really too bad for the stupid penalties. TOo many men again? maybe JM is the extra man.

  179. Laramy87 says:

    Yup, without the powerplay goals its 1-1….

  180. Mad Habber says:

    The Habs were playing better then the Flyers up until the 3 penalties. Sure they hadn’t scored yet but…

    Personally I’m not sure the refs intentional trying to keep the Habs form winning, but more often then not all the bad calls go against the Habs where the other team gets away with hit’s from behind, holding, slashings, etc. etc. It’s just plan poor refs.

    I think the game against the Ducks on Saturday, where more of the bad calls went against the oppenents then they did the Habs. (Not counting the backchecking penalty)…

    I also think the refs ruined what was a pretty good game against the Sabres last week with a cheap penalty at the very end of the game. (Gomez may have earned it, but there was alot worse stuff that happened in that game that wasn’t called)

  181. MTLForever says:

    poor calls and no calls all year round in general

  182. JohnBellyful says:

    From the Oxford Advanced Learner’s Dictionary

    System:
    – “an organized set of ideas or theories or a particular way of doing something”
    – “a group of things, pieces of equipment, etc. that are connected or work together.”

    I figured it out. JM’s not the blame. It’s not HIS system, it’s the players’. They’re the ones who on their own have come up with a “particular way of doing something” – namely, taking stupid penalties. Again and again, game after game. Sure, the refs make some dumb calls but like they say, stupid see, stupid do.

    I mean, why would you cross-check a player who’s skating back into his own zone and is no threat to do anything creative with the puck? And why would you smack your stick on the opponent’s arm when your team is already shorthanded and a play like that is not likely to cause a turnover and is sure to draw a penalty?

    Some system, guys. You’re a group of things, mere pieces of equipment, whose only connection to each other is to take turns sabotaging your own chances of winning. 

    My apologies if I seem tad miffed with the boys tonight. Maybe a rousing All-Star game will lift my spirits.

  183. Laramy87 says:

    Flyer fans sure are retarded… Chantng Subban sucks, he was not invovled in that play at all.

    and i F’IN  Hate CARCILLO with a passion, maybe more than Avery

  184. Laramy87 says:

    Dirty hit by Hartnell is anyone surprised?

  185. MattZ says:

    I hope you are not blaming Price. Other than Darche, he is the only one who came to play. It is scary to think that this game would look worse if he wasn’t there. Then again, you are entitled to your opinion.

  186. RC-51 says:

    better make it 10

  187. habsgod says:

    if we put auld in the score would be 7-2 or 8-2 he’s  abum! this isn’t price’s fault!

  188. Bugs says:

    And pray Dezzy ain’t on the other side so you don’t lose?

  189. Bugs says:

    Is it your contention that should Eller go to Hamilton, he would produce at a higher clip than Dezzy then?

    Cuz so far, Eller may well have “the whole package” actual productionwise, he’s quite lacking, I’m afraid.

  190. Duracell3 says:

    Carcillo for me, Pronger, but he’s trickeier about it. I can’t hate Coburn as I played against him until I was about twelve.

  191. Laramy87 says:

    Who do you hate more, Avery or Carcillo. And who is dirtier Pronger or Hartnell….. Wow i really hate every player on the flyers except Carter

  192. Laramy87 says:

    0 for 6….. you cannot count the penalty with 8 seconds left… but it was definately what cost us

  193. oldrrty says:

    0 for 7 enough said!

     

    I don’t care who wins as long as Toronto doesn’t!

  194. MTLForever says:

    ya that added to the pot.

  195. Laramy87 says:

    You know what killed us tonight, was out 0-6 powerplay…. with liek 4 shots

  196. MTLForever says:

    and in the end we know those 5 on 3 penalties were the story.

  197. Jonson says:

    anybody else have a strange feeling that we are gonna tie this up?

  198. Jonson says:

    this game is getting good!

  199. Bugs says:

    Waitaminnit, waitaminnit, waitaminnit, am I to understand that the only reason we’re down two goals to the Flyers is on account of some pee-drinkin garbage lucky goals that were the product of a quasi impossible three penalty call within a dang minute, the likes of which will never be witnessed again until the end of friggin time?

    The FLYERS did this??? Noooo. Not the Flyers. THAT ain’t the type of game they got. I am really, really, REALLY shocked at that. Really, really surprised. Totally unlike them. Huh.

    in case you can’t tell, I’m being as contemptuously sarcastic as I can be. Sometimes, print doesn’t express that as much as I would like it to. What I’m trying to say is that those pox-ridden, maggot-infected scumbags don’t deserve nuthin. They’re not even a real team. They’re just pee-lucky rats. Dirty grungy rats, wallowing in garbage. Eating it. Loving it. Hell, making a tradition of it. But they ain’t nuthin.

    Never forget that.

    Ptui!

  200. J Haul says:

    Can’t forget Briere! That little dirtbag totally sold the “slash” and then tried to dive near the net to get another call, after already getting 2 powerplay goals and still being 5 men to 4. Give the goof a diving penalty already!

  201. Laramy87 says:

    Versus flashed a stat:

    Flyers are 12 for 13 killing penalties in last 6 games. So basically the dirtiest team in the NHL has only averaged just over 2 penalties a game.

    This is brutual, Carcillo runs around (and dives around) like a f***in moron, and the refs don’t call shit on him. The Flyers are the new Pens of the NHL and refs will do what they can.

  202. jennifer1984 says:

    there’s no way a team like this only takes on avg 2 penalties a game. NO WAY!! i would have like to have read that stat however, watching online, the quality is quite poor tonight. i cant even see how much time is left on penalties.

  203. Lazarus_taxa says:

    Asham plays for Pittsburgh.  Great Insight!

  204. Kamal Panesar says:

    Honestly, I could see him and Asham dusting off.  Again, I don’t necessarily think he HAS to fight, I just think that he WILL fight.

    Look, a few games ago Moen was hit into the boards and White went right after the guy taht hit him.  He knows that he is the only one in the lineup willing to drop the gloves and make a little space for his teammates.

     

    I actually think he reminds me of Asham in a lot of way.  That being said, White is, as you said, a solid defensive player who can also play on the PK.  I’d prefer to see him in the lineup over Pyatt, going forward.

     


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  205. andrewberkshire says:

    Let’s hope for something realistic. Maybe a Pacioretty or Gionta hat trick, but not White.

  206. HabFanSince72 says:

    If my opinion counts, I’d like a hat trick.

     

  207. Kamal Panesar says:

    Agreed and I think he already has eight hits over two games, so that is all but a certainty.

    Like I said above, I don’t think he HAS to fight but I do think that he WILL fight.


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  208. Say Ash says:

    I’m kinda interested in the playground-style picks on Friday. Who’s gonna be picked last? Oh, the shame!

  209. shiram says:

    Yea getting picked last must be annoying, but then your on an elite team still, so you are still supposedly better than about 660 other players in the nhl…

  210. andrewberkshire says:

    I would much rather White lay several bone crunching hits than get in a useless fight.

  211. Kamal Panesar says:

    My eyes are going to be on Ryan White tonight…

    This will be a big game for him and I am all but certain that he’ll drop the gloves tonight.  This is a kid who has to show that he belongs in the NHL ahead of, say, Pyatt and/or Moen and brings something unique to the table.

    If he can show that he has what it takes, then maybe PG can move Pyatt or Moen closer to the deadline.

     


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  212. temekuhabs says:

    White is playing??What are the lineups for tonight?

  213. SeriousFan09 says:

    Who’s he going to fight though besides that dirtbag Carcillo? Shelley would likely waste him in a fight and the rest of the Flyers aren’t going to bother. He needs to be an effective checker, keep blasting into their players whenever it’s a good option.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  214. Mattyleg says:

    Stupid Flyers.

    Hope we raise our game tonight and come in with all guns blazin! Skate the arses off them!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  215. SeriousFan09 says:

    Basically the word is Muller is a hot property as a potential Head Coach of an NHL team and he’s likely going to be hearing some attractive offers this summer. Depends on how many teams sack their coachs (Looking at CGY, OTT and a replacement for Lemaire in NJ for sure) and what understanding Muller reachs with these organiations.

    Muller likely would want to know if he’s going to take over a true rebuilding effort, or he’s going to have to put up with a Burkian faux rebuild.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  216. Brown_Hab_Fan says:

    Looks like it bud :( Unless we can fire JM and keep Kirk FOREVER!! There are other teams interested in having his services as a head coach

  217. Rainrocket16 says:

    can some one please translate the Kirk Muller article, just a brief overview? is he leaving us for good?

  218. derfab says:

    Kirk did a notty no comment when asked about rumours concerning Ottawa, Calgary and Toronto making official requests to speak to him. Gagnon claims to have a reliable source.

  219. HabFanSince72 says:

    The gist is:

    Muller was already well liked for his attitude and playing experience. Now he has added two years learning from Jacques Martin, so many people think he is ready to be head coach.

    Ottawa, Calgary, NJ, and probably Toronto will all be in the market for a new head coach, and Muller will be on every team’s shortlist.

    He will obviously take a head coaching position if offered.

     

     

     

     

     

  220. observer says:

    I do – that is why I really wanted them to try to sign him here. But he was a huge disappointment here for me at the least.

  221. fbkj says:

    i guess you dont remember the habs pre-gainey

  222. observer says:

    I repeat there were many other moves and players involved then.. BUT when did I ever knock Gainey for how he managed the North Stars/Stars? I wanted Habs to sign him as GM BEFORE they even did off the job he did there. BUT the job he did here was terrible!

  223. observer says:

    That’s right a real good Dallas team won the Cup but after other parts too were added such as Hull, Zubov – fact is you all knock Burke for trading future stars for Kessel – you can’t have it both ways. This would be as dumb a move as declining to draft Savard for Wickenheiser and then at the end of his career giving Chelios up to get him. Oh and they won a Cup the final time – still as bad a trade as they ever made and they’ve made a few beauts.

  224. Jordio-oh says:

    Are you talking about that time Gainey traded away Iginla to get Nieuwendyk, who went on the win the cup with dallas in 1999 and score 21 points in 23 playoff games to capture the Conn Smyth.

    What was gainey thinking there eh? Winning a cup like that? Was he crazy?

  225. Gormdog says:

    Dang, beat me two it. Observer constantly bashes Gainey for not brining home a cup, and then, in his revisionist history, complains about a moe that was bad for the Stars future…. But won em a cup?

  226. SeriousFan09 says:

    Yes but the thing is, Burke vastly overestimated how good TOR would be and it is now costing Toronto vital pieces in the rebuilding process, Two high 1sts and a high 2nd pick were more than he was worth, it’s one thing to deal for a piece when you’re running at the Cup but Toronto was nowhere close to going anywhere and Burke’s misjudgement has set Toronto back for years while giving great strength to Boston.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  227. observer says:

    I read on some site that Burke is still willing to trade Kaberle, but to any team except Boston.

  228. fbkj says:

    so you didnt like how he brought the team back to a respected NHL franchise

    sucks to be you i guess

  229. J_P says:

    Terrible comparison.  Toronto sucks, and kessel isn’t helping.  They would be way better off with Seguin and whatever high draft they would have gotten this year than kessel. 

  230. Mark C says:

    Trading prospects/future assets when the team is a cup contender is much different than trading prospects/future assets when the team stinks. You can have it both ways, it’s calling timing, Gainey made his trade at the right time and Burke did not.

  231. observer says:

    February
    20 – NHL Heritage Classic: Montreal versus Calgary (McMahon Stadium in Calgary).
    28 – NHL Trade deadline

  232. HabFanSince72 says:

    Hockey Buzz?

    Guess we’re not after Iggy.

     

  233. Habs fan in SF says:

    i read on bleacher report that possible return for Iginla are Lars Eller and Max Pacioretty. not sure how I feel about giving up Pacioretty after lately seeing a glimpse of his potential for a Iginla rental.

  234. Storm Man says:

    Does the GM for the Flames know about this?????? Iggy coming to the Habs was like Vinny two year’s ago LMAO…

  235. habs03 says:

    His cap hit is too high and is signed for a few more years, you can’t trade for him without getting rid of a long term contract, and our biggest ones are Gomez,Cammy and Gio, all not going anywhere.

  236. observer says:

    Do you really think anyone still helped by Gainey would try to acquire Iginla who Gainey traded away with his entire future in front of him, then trade away more young talent for Iginla who is nearing the end of his career?

  237. observer says:

    Is there a trade freeze by the NHL around this coming All-Star break?

  238. SeriousFan09 says:

    Don’t see how the Canadiens could swing such a deal and not have it ruin the team’s future unless Jay Feaster’s getting advice from Milbury. Sure the Canadiens are interested in landing such a great power forward, but they’re probably interested in sending them nothing we’d miss in the deal. I like Iggy’s stats this year after a slow start, but I don’t see him over here without us terribly regretting what we sent the other way.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  239. sh00n says:

    Andy Strickland reporting on his website that we’re preparing a strong offer for Iginla and have let the Flames know about it. That, paired with the Habs wanting Regehr, I wonder what the chances are that PG pulls it off? Hopefully he can find a way to squeeze Morrison in there too. 😉

    Maybe my avatar comes true, after all! Bring on Iggy! 😀

  240. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    Sorry to burst your bubble bud, but it ain’t gonna happen.

  241. J_P says:

    Unless its Cammy, gionta or Gomez going to the other way, I think the habs should pass.  No point for the habs at add another $7million/yr for the next two years AND trade away two talented young players (who are cheap on the cap). 

  242. Ayan_SB says:

    Hmm Strickland’s actually a very reputable journalist. But the Habs would have to give up a lot. I’m sure Pacioretty and Eller would be involved.

  243. HabFanSince72 says:

    If Calgary are willing to trade Iggy, here is a deal that makes sense for both teams:

    Iginla to Boston for Toronto’s 1st rounder.

    Boston get a replacement for and upgrade on Marc Savard, and make a real push for the cup. Time is running out for the Broons with Chara and TimTom not getting any younger.

    Calgary gets a top 6 pick and they don’t send Iggy to a Western team.

     

     

     

     

  244. mrhabby says:

    unless somehow the habs unloaded Gomez for Iggy nothing else would work. i would not want to send young/cheap for iggy no way no how. not going to happen.

  245. joshua94k says:

    It won’t be easy against the Flyers tonight. There will be no Gorges, Markov or Cammalleri. But we have Carey Price. If he can keep them to 2 goals we have a good chance. Our group defence is playing well. Our powerplay is srong. Darche, Halpern and Pouliot will be key for us. They go to the net and can check the Flyer’s top scorers. With four strong lines, ther Canadiens can tire the Flyer’s defense with their speed. Let’s hope the officiating is fair tonight. Then there is no stopping the Habs.

    Overheard in a Bishop street bar:

    “What do players do to get out of a scoring slump? Pray, take extra vitamins, sleep in a bit more…..? Answer : They look at the schedule to see when they play the Maple Leafs next. That’s what Gaborik, Ovechkin and Sutter did”.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  246. Storm Man says:

    I have a better chance that Geoff Molson calls me  to offer me the new COO postion with the Habs now that Ray Lalonde was let go on friday. Iggy coming to Montreal will not happen Im 100 percent sure of that ;).

  247. SeriousFan09 says:

    At least it’s a new flavour of ridiculous trades Storm Man, and his contract length doesn’t make you want to hang yourself on the chance it does happen.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  248. Jocko says:

    Completely agree with you, Storm man.  Iginla is not going to land in Montreal.  If the Flames are not in the playoff hunt by mid February, I would expect the Flames to shop Iggy around, but I would not expect many bites.  Contract is to big and the return is not enough at this point.

    I don’t want to see Maurice tonight, I want to see The Rocket!

  249. Habs fan in SF says:

    oh is iginla not a UFA after this season? i thought he was. oops. anyways, still, iginla is on the decline – while pacioretty has many years ahead of him. then again, who knows – he could be another chris higgins.

  250. SeriousFan09 says:

    Don’t take BR for face value, it’s just a big blogging site where anyone can post a rumour. In the summer, they had Bobby Ryan for Tomas Kaberle rumours every other day.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  251. Habs fan in SF says:

    right. i kinda thought that. i don’t read too much into rumours because they rarely ever come to fruition

  252. smiler2729 says:

    No kidding! For starters, Calgary asks for PK Subban cuz this ain’t Darryl Sutter who trades crap for poo with Brian Burke, this is Jay Feaster now and he wants to make a positive splash after all the Flames’ problems. Besides there’s no way Iginla is leaving Calgary.

  253. smiler2729 says:

    Montreal 3, Philadelphia 2

    Dare to dream.

    Payback for November’s 2 goal lead collapse.

    Wiz cleans Carcillo’s clock.

    Kirk out.

     

  254. shiram says:

    And PK farts in the general direction of Mike Richards.

  255. derfab says:

    The right thing to do would be to extend Markov for another 4 years, or run him the hell out of town for not speaking French.

     

    P.S.

    Props to Gino for backing Sid. Price should fake an injury and an ear infection as he skates off after the game tonight.

  256. Mark says:

    You know what? I think Price should politely decline to attend the ASG. I mean, really, it looks good on the resume, but, one, half of the leagues other stars have already backed out, so it won’t even be that much fun anyway, two, does it really make sense to put on the extra mileage of travel, just to entertain a bunch of dumb rednecks who only really follow NASCAR and college basketball? Thirdly, why risk pulling a DiPietro and wind up injuring himself for when we’ll need him most, when we kick Philly’s ass in the playoffs!

  257. Brown_Hab_Fan says:

    I agree I think the NHL allstar game in general is stupid, just have an elaborate skills competition to show off these players skill…the Allstar game itself is meaningless

  258. LA Loyalist says:

    Would anyone want the retro All Star game where the Stars play the Cup Champs? Problem is with Chicago blowing up the championship team it wouldn’t even be representative (as future cup winners will probably have to do, also).

    I guess I answered my own question!

  259. fbkj says:

    all leagues have em though

  260. Muckbringer says:

    not all jokes are funny.  im sorry to say that includes todays nhl

  261. PrimeTime says:

    G dam f’n penalties!!!

  262. Kooch7800 says:

     Pronger cross checks and runs interference every shift but we get three penalties all at once……hmmm

  263. jennifer1984 says:

    just EFFIN great! :/

  264. zak says:

    Anyone out there know what RDS was saying about Kirk Muller

  265. chartraw27 says:

    Missed most of the first period. Three stupid penalties that were without a doubt penalties. Easy calls for refs. We make some really dumb plays. Hopefully we can it together for the second and third. Use the speed and maybe catch the goalie napping a bit. Not a good performance so far to head into the all star break.

  266. Mad Habber says:

    Your kidding right? Okay Spacek is a penalty for sure, but AK and PK where barely passible..  (AK’s)During the little highlight section you can clearly see one of the Flyers doing exactly the samething to the Habs before he rang it off the post, no penalty was called there.

    If you wanna say they are all fair calls, then they should be calling it both ways. That’s what fustrates me the most about the refs..way to inconsistent, and rarely is it in the Habs favor.

  267. adam76 says:

    embarassing

     

  268. SmartDog says:

    Flyers are makin it look easy with lotsa help from the Habs.

    —-

    “It bothers me…there are old coaches in the league today that don’t know how to deal with these young personalities.” – Mike Peca on JM handling of PKS

  269. MTLForever says:

    started off well in this game and then the penalties and now, not so much

     

    come on boys

  270. MTLForever says:

    ak one was definitely bs

  271. SmartDog says:

    Which is worse?  Being a bunch of goons (Flyers) or being anemic (Habs)?

    Tough call.

    —-

    “It bothers me…there are old coaches in the league today that don’t know how to deal with these young personalities.” – Mike Peca on JM handling of PKS

  272. RC-51 says:

    On an icing call the players on the ice cannot change. When you pull your goalie and your team finds itself in that situation technically, the goalie shouldn’t be able to come back on the ice. 

  273. MTLForever says:

    technically but they dont specify that in the rules.

  274. Propwash says:

    The Habs shot themselves in the foot in the 1st.

     

    Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat. 

  275. SeriousFan09 says:

    Hopefully that was Wisniewski’s worst game ever as a Hab, seriously, I don’t think he made one good pass tonight. Lot of bad play all around but I think he was the worst on the night.

    Habs continue to show their weakness, GAs in a disheartening way, they lose their coordination and just see their fast, skilled play fall apart. They will not be doing any better until they calm down when a bad situation leads to a goal, at the moment it’s how they’re breaking and teams are beginning to exploit that.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.


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