Game 50: Flyers make Habs pay for penalties

Canadiens’ Carey Price gets beaten by Flyers’ Jeff Carter during the first period on Tuesday night in Philadelphia. Paul Bereswill, Gatty Images

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• At a Glance: The Philadephia Flyers won their 1,000 regualar-season home game in franchise history with ease on Tuesday night, using the power play to dump the Canadiens 5-2.
The Flyers scored two power-play goals late in the first period to take a 2-0 lead over undisciplined Canadiens, who took three penalties within a 1:31 span to face two 5-on-3 disadvantages.
Jeff Carter scored 17:42 into the period and Kimmo Timonen scored 1:03 later to give the Flyers a 2-0 lead.
The Flyers added two more goals in the second period, one on the power play, to take a 4-1 lead.
Daniel Carcillo made it 3-0 only 23 seconds into the second period with a backhand that eluded Carey Price.
David Desharnais scored for the Canadiens 12:43 into the period to make it 3-1, but the damage was done.
Claude Giroux scored the a power-play goal for the fourth Flyers goal with 3:08 to play in the middle period, his 19th of the season.
Mathieu Darche scored in the third period, his ninth of the season, to make it 4-2 Flyers with less than five minutes to play.
Daniel Brière scored into an empty net.
Montreal went 0-for-7 with the extra skater.

• What It Means: The Canadiens fall to 27-18-5 and remain at 59 points for seventh place in the Eastern Conference.

• What’s Next: The Canadiens are off until Feb.1 for the NHL All-Star Break, playing the Washington Capitals before travelling home to take to take on the Florida Panthers on Feb. 2. After that, the Canadiens play a pair of matinees during Super Bowl Weekend with games against the New York Rangers on Feb. 5 and New Jersey Devils on Feb. 6.

366 Comments

  1. Julie H says:

    March 3rd? Darn, I totally read Feb 2nd. I work DT so I’d be more than happy to watch the game with you (the one in March).

    ♪Your cares and troubles are gone. There’ll be no more from now on. From now on happy days are here again, the skies above are so clear again. So let’s sing a song of cheer again. Happy times, happy nights, happy days are here again♪

  2. krob1000 says:

    hodgemail…re Gretzky what should he do next?

    We have Sid…who does his best…but is busy playing..but he is undoubtedly the NHL’s actingposter boy.  I would love to see Wayne not get involved for a couple of years competitively or for any one organization.  I would love to see him named League Ambassador. I think the NHL and the game in general could benefit from the Great One being accesible….to the lay people…to the kids whose families can’t afford $400 to watch a game and get a glimpse of Wayne behind a bench.  Wayne’s name still carries clout and even the young kids have an idea of who he is…but before he is too old and frail I would suggest everyone inthe NHL pitch in and have Wayne..sell the game….Wayne is a magical personality but unfortunately these superstars are not accessible while they play…taht can change once retired.  Wayne has the time right now and it would be an incredible thing….Wayne could tour like the Cup does…who in their right mind wouldn’t like to meet Wayne Gretzky…really? I think non hockey fans would take a little more interest…in the summer current superstars or local heroes from the areas he is visiting or other players could tour with him as well.  I

     know it is very basic and simple it seems dumb…but it could be Wayne’s last great sales tour…poor guy was geographically dispersed through the States intenionally to try and sell the game…but hokcey used to be about kids getting on ponds…now it is about dollars and cents……A Wayne Gretzky tour would be incredible…a wayne and friends tour even..anything…but it HAS to be accessilbe to the layman….really accessible….even a television show like Hockeyville type format but with Wayne visiting school boards that meet in a central location like a junior arena,etc…..if they are serious about selling the game and maintainig the game…then go after the average joes that are being chased away from the game…..hell they always have been and still are the game. If a television show ere made then the possibilities for events/charity dollars, NHl goodwill, NHl aawreness,etc are limitless……Wayne already walks on water…but this would be the clincher IMO.

    Wayne is plain and simpy the best there ever was…so while he still his held in the same esteem and before he gets too old…he could still reach several generations…but it has to happen sooner than later…because he no doubt wants to be involved competitvely again at some point….

  3. Gormdog says:

    100%.

     

    Nabokov had his chance to play in the NHL – last year in the offseason. He gave up his right to make the NHL his oyster when he ran off to Russia for big money.

  4. joeybarrie says:

    I really do not think that’s what happened. I think he tried to make a go of it in Russia and didn’t like the scene. He saw an opportunity with the Wings who are looking for a better back-up for a run at the Cup. Seems like a great deal.

    I think they all knew the fine print, and basically took a shot. They said he wouldn’t play for anyone else, and Snow tried to call him on it.

    He is not Pulling a Lindros, and by the way, look at how that ended. Nords went to Colorado. I do not understand why a player cannot refuse playing in a situation where they think they will not like. It’s just like any other job, do not like the company, don’t take the job. But here they are bashed and called names. I don’t know what you do for a living, but if another company came along and said, HEY we are one of the WORST in the industry right now, but we will pay you the same, want to come to LONG ISLAND? We might have half the arena filled for the BIG games…

    It’s a stupid rule. Maybe if it was after the trade deadline, but not before. At his age given the options, I would not play for the Islanders, if I were him. Where is the motivation? All he will end up doing is being miserable and making his stats worse. He has paid his dues and can afford to be picky now.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  5. Gormdog says:

    He can be as picky as he wants, but he put himself in this situation (subjugated to waivers) by passing on the best league in the world for the money (he waited for an offer that was worth his time and never got it.. THEN went to Russia, remember?). I am happy Snow, or anyone else, picked him up.

     

  6. shiram says:

    Well that doesnt really warrant much attention, its barely a nod!

  7. Say Ash says:

    just like McGuire’s GM quest

  8. Gormdog says:

    They got assets for Roloson. So they sacrifice a bit this year to get alot over the next years (Hopefully). There is a cost/benefit analysis.

     

    With Nabokov, there is no cost. So it’s a risk free way of helping your team, in the now, without having to give anything up.

     

    Building towards the future and playing well in the present are NOT mutually exclusive concepts.

     

    Geez, didn’t anyone read my posts yesterday? 😛

  9. shiram says:

    hehe nice one

  10. shiram says:

    But really how much can Nabokov help the Isles this year?

    And no I didnt read your post yesterday, i read alot, but there is tons of stuff posted on here!

  11. Gormdog says:

    Many ways.

     

    How do you think the players felt when Wiz and Rollie were traded away? THe moves might help the team in the future but certainly hurt it for the time being. It would make me very happy, as an Isle, to get a real NHL goalie playing behind me.

     

    Also, Nabo would be a good mentor (NYI bitterness notwithstanding) for the other goalies in the system.

     

    A team woefully low on seasoned vets, gets a chance, for peanuts, to add a solid goalie who has seen it all before.

     

    Agreed that Snow sacrificed this season re:playoffs (which were never happening anyways), but that doesnt mean he can’t still makes moves to help his team now (better goaltending) and for the future (veteran leadership and experience) for literally nothing but being third last place. He has NOTHING to lose, so why not?

  12. Mattyleg says:

    Sorry Joey, I don’t see it as a stupid rule at all.

    Every other player (except for rookies) are signed to one-way contracts (with very very few exceptions). Every player needs to go through waivers to pass in and out of the NHL. Players from ANY other league should be no exception. Especially in Nabby’s situation.

    Sure he can play where he wants, but he shouldn’t have been so dumb as to put himself in this situation! I’m sure plenty of players have told their coaches that they don’t want to be traded to certain teams, and that is taken into account when negotiating trades, but we don’t hear about it. I think that it just shows a poor attitude.

    Do you think that SK was right in not reporting to the Bulldogs?

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  13. joeybarrie says:

    I disagree. Nabby didn’t want to do any of those things. The desire to play and help a team has to be there for a player. If not, then what is he doing there? It’s not as is, Nabby said he would not play for the Isles but would for any other team. The whole deal was to come back on the condition he play with the Wings, the team that offered him the deal. NYI simply tried to steal him, based on a particular rule.

    I have nothing againt Snow if he had of put him right back on waivers, but what is the point of suspending him? It simply shows Snow is a poor sport when he doesn’t get what he wants. Why would anyone want a player who does not want to play for your team? Snow dug his own grave by trading players away when they were starting to have some forward movement with their latest draft picks. Then they trade away Rolly and Wiz and try to steal someone they had no business with.

    HE DID NOT WANT TO JOIN THE ISLES… IN EVERY FACET OF THE WORLD, YOU SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE TO WORK FOR ANYONE YOU DO NOT WANT TO. Why is the NHL different?

    IT MAKES NO SENSE. However, Nabby CHOSE to sign in the KHL this season, and now he is paying the Price. I have no pity for him either.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  14. Lazarus_taxa says:

    I think there is a lot to bash the Isles about, but I do not understand why anyone would bash Snow for this move.  From a business perspective, any GM with cap space that passes up the opportunity to grab a decent asset FOR NOTHING is making a bad move.  When you are stuck in the basement of the league you might as well use the rare powers that you have for being there, like snatching up good players on waivers.  We can argue about his playoff performances, but the fact of the matter is, Nabokov is a proven NHL goaltender signed at a ridiculously low price.  The Isles need goaltending…. they took a chance, and now there is probably some backdoor dealing going on to get him back on waivers.  In the end, the Isles may benefit from something and they need everything they can get……or maybe Snow is just an a**

  15. Gormdog says:

    Yep. They both sort of look like numbnuts now. I think the big question is whether Snow legitimatly thought  Nabs would play for the isles (delusional/hopeful), knew he would refuse but did not anyone else to get him (douchy), or took him with the hope of parlaying Nabs into some form of asset in return (wise but tough).

    Wait… why do we care so much about this?

  16. Chuck says:

    Nabokov knew that part of coming back to the NHL would include going through waivers. He got claimed, and now he’s acting like a spoiled brat… So Garth’s told him to sit in the corner for a time out.

    What’s the big deal?

  17. Psycho29 says:

    Discussion on CKAC this afternoon concerning Kirk Muller & the Coaching sitaution in Montreal, etc….

    To Translate what Michel Bergeron said:

    “If the Montreal Canadiens cannot find a francophone head coach, don’t worry…..in a couple of years the new Quebec City team will find one.”

    I guess that pretty well sums it up…

     

  18. Mark C says:

    By suspending Nappy now, I believe there is a loop hole in the CBA that would allow the NYI to hold his rights next year.

  19. joeybarrie says:

    If SK did not want to play for the Bulldogs, then yes he was right in not reporting. He also has to suffer the consequences and right now it means playing in Nashville. Good enough team, but no real future. His quality of life had to take a huge step back, as he was in the right city to begin with. To me Montreal (outside of Hockey) is a better suited place for him. However he though he was bigger than the team. He learned his lesson and now plays in the Bible Belt to a half full arena of country music lovers. Stanley Cup???? No chance. But he did learn a lesson. Players like that are not good for a team in the long run. Now that being said, let’s remember that the MONTREAL CANADIENS picked him, trained him, developed him and put their faith in himself and his Brother. The Habs gave him many opportunities he would not have gotten with other teams, including playing in London. In my personal opinion he is an IDIOT for not reporting. He OWED the Habs.

    Nabokov owes absolutely NOTHING to the Isles. He did nothing to them, and had no interest in them either way. Thats the difference. I do not think it shows a poor attitude. Nabby has paid his dues to the league and the teams he has played for. He honored his contract with them.

    As for the rules, I think if it is before the trade deadline and a player wants to join a team from another league, WHO HAS FULLFILLED HIS PREVIOUS NHL CONTRACT. And was considered upon his departure an UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENT, and in good standing, I do not understand why he is suddenly RESTRICTED. Especially in a league where it does not work both ways, because they have no interest or need for a release from the NHL. Also of note, it is not ANY other league. It is a whole different system. If it was something within the NHL, like the AHL, ECHL, the Q, or any other league affiliated with the NHL then I can understand. But the KHL has no affiliation with the NHL and chooses not to have any…

    After the trade deadline I think it would have been fair, as no other team would be capable of doing something similar on fair ground.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  20. Mattyleg says:

    As I posted above, Snow is doing his job by suspending a player who belongs to the club who refuses to show up when asked.

    What Nabokov ‘says’ (as in “I only want to play for Detroit”) means absolutely nothing. It’s like a player saying that he will only play when the other team puts their first line on the ice. It’s so much hot air that has nothing to do with the game, the rules, or what anybody else wants.

    The rules are made by the NHL, the league that Nabokov wanted to play in, and he chose to ignore them because he seemed to think that they do not apply to him, for some reason.

    Snow is not blocking Nabokov from playing for the Wings. The only reason that Snow didn’t go for him is because he probably knew that another team would claim him off waivers! Like he did! Like San Jose did with Wellwood!

    The rule is there to prevent teams from bringing players in and out of the league whenever they want.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  21. joeybarrie says:

    By taking advantage of a rule, and blocking Nabby from playing anywhere else. He literally STOLE him and that was the risk that they took. I do not feel sorry for them, nor do I feel bad for Nabby. He made his bed when he left the NHL, but he didn’t screw anyone over. It was known from BEFORE he even agreed to terms he would not join anyone who picked him up on waivers.

    Its not about refusing to play, its about taking the offer that was given to him and then being forced by the league to go play elsewhere. It was Snow’s right to try and pick him up, and he FAILED. So he retaliates by suspending him. Nabby NEVER agreed to play for the Isles. So to me, you simply put him back on waivers, as you never invested ANYTHING in him to begin with, cause you simply tried to steal him.

    WHY SUSPEND HIM? WHAT IS THE BENEFIT THERE??? WHAT MAKES IT OK FOR SNOW TO BLOCK HIM FROM GOING ANYWHERE ELSE?

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  22. joeybarrie says:

    Sbow didn’t attempt to try to get Nabby, and if he did then he FAILED. Detroit didn’t fail to have him show up. Everything else you say, to me, shows that Snow is simply being an a-hole. It is within his rights. But it will hurt him in the long run. There is no point in NOT PUTTING HIM BACK ON WAIVERS. Nabby will not play for them. That is how he is holding him ransom. The risk was there, so FINE. It was known, but still. Ask yourself this. If you were Detroit, would you EVER deal with Snow again, unless you were screwing him over?????

    I wouldn’t. And I think that Snow will soon be GONE. Cause he did nothing here, but block a player. He didn’t get the player, he failed, then he took a fit and suspended him. Serves no purpose.

    I STILL HAVENT SEEN ANYONE ANSWER ME WHAT PURPOSE IT SERVES TO SUSPEND HIM…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  23. Mattyleg says:

    There is no ‘taking advantage of a rule’. The rules are there, and the GMs play by them.

    Snow did not fail to pick him up. He picked him up. Nabokov belongs to NYI, regardless of what he says. Suspending him does not block him from going anywhere else; owning him does. As Snow owns Nabokov. And when… (as I’ve said).

    Imagine if Snow said “Oh, you don’t want to play for us? Oh, okay, here, go back on waivers.” Then New Jersey picks him up. Well congratulations, Snow, you’ve been had.

    Snow’s doing the right thing. Every GM would agree.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  24. joeybarrie says:

    I also disagree with the NHL being different. Yes the teams compete, however they are ALL part of the same company, THE NHL… There is a company union, and director meetings and a president that presides over all teams like divisions within a certain company.

    Basically when they trade players it is as if to me a CEO decides to send his VP of Sales to become the VP of Distribution of something. If you do not want to do what the company wants you to do you have a few option depending on how you were hired, or you can simply quit and go work for a different company (LIKE THE KHL).

    Nabby was hired to become the head of the Detroit office (so he could be close to his kids as an example of motivation) and they decided to sent him to New York where he would be far from his family (again only as an example of motivation) and the cost of living is alot higher.

    To me there is no difference. He either sgrees to what the company wants to do with him, or he quits. The only thing wrong here is the VP of the North East district who wants to steal the companies new aquisition to make his area better than the North Central Division, despite the knowledge that the employee wanted to be close to his family.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  25. Psycho29 says:

    Good for Garth Snow….the rule is there to keep the top/rich teams from grabbing players who left the NHL on their own or had to leave because nobody had room for their massive contract demands.

    Maybe now he will go back on waivers and a team like Ottawa will take him. And he won’t report there and THEY can suspend him….

     

  26. Mattyleg says:

    Because it could happen to any team.

    And it’s also funny when players have hissy fits and throw tantrums.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  27. shiram says:

    So the company (nhl) via it’s rules state that Nabo should report to NYI, even though he would prefer CHI, and when he doesnt respond or show, the GM of the NYI office suspends him, or whatever else corporate lingo you wanna substitute in. It’s still the same thing, if he works for the nhl, he should work where they tell him to work.

    And the rules set in made it so he had to report to NYI, he didnt, band suspended.

  28. habs365 says:

    If I was the Habs I wouldn’t be concerned about fighting..I’d be concerned about putting points on the board..philly can put points on the board and fight..the Habs are a little behind them in that department..if the Habs defence fails..it will be an easy 2pts for Philly..offence, the Habs no match..defence Habs hands down..bring home the 2pts Habby’s……

  29. joeybarrie says:

    How has Snow been had if another team claims him? NABOKOV WILL NOT PLAY FOR NEW YORK ISLANDERS. SNOW GETS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NO MATTER WHAT. THERE IS NO WIN FOR HIM. No possibility that anything good can come of this suspension. WHAT DOES SNOW GAIN IN ANY SITUATION????

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  30. HabFanSince72 says:

    I wouldn’t bet on a Quebec City team in a couple of years – even if we stretch the definition of “couple”.

     

    They have no stadium, and no money for a stadium. More importantly, nobody who controls the sport wants another team in Canada: not the League, not the American owners, not the Canadian owners (why do you think they all blackballed Balsillie?).

  31. joeybarrie says:

    The difference between Nabby and Wellwood is simply this. Wellwood did not say to begin with he would only play for St. Louis or quit. When San Jose picked him up, they thought he would want to play with them. FAIR GAME. Wellwood went to play for San Jose. If he said NO I REFUSE TO PLAY, and San Jose chose to suspend him, then i would say NO no more dealing with SJ. Cause if he wanted to play he would have and if not the WHY NOT PUT HIM BACK ON WAIVERS. WHY CHOOSE TO SUSPEND HIM. HE MADE NO DEAL WITH SJ.

    STILL NO ONE HAS ANSWERED WHY SUSPEND HIM. Just simply stating they OWN him…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  32. Mattyleg says:

    By agreeing to come into the NHL he ticked the box saying “I know that any team could pick me up off waivers.”

    If you tick the box saying that you’d be willing to work anywhere, and then afterwards tell them (orally and un-bindingly) that you’d only work in one city, regardless of what you’d ticked when you signed your contract, they’d throw you out on your ear, and brand you as a contract-breaker. Or they’d sue you.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  33. Mattyleg says:

    Because players don’t choose where they go. The GMs choose that.

    If a player disagrees, then the GM suspends them. That’s the way it works.

    Snow’s life doesn’t change, but Nabokov is punished for breaking the rules.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  34. joeybarrie says:

    Unrestricted Free Agents do choose where they want to go. I still think the rule is ridiculous. The only thing they lose by signing a player late in the season is not having him at the beginning. AGAIN, only if it is before the trade deadline. There should be no additions after that from outside your club.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  35. Storm Man says:

    You’re on here calling someone a douche and talking about juvenile acts. Triple that just shows what you have been doing on here, You make yourself look more like a loser eachday.

     

     

    “I have never failed at anything in my life so far… TripleX 12/23/2010 16:34pm”

  36. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    The reason why they are suspending him is to get him to play. I believe that if he goes the rest of the season under suspension for not reporting, his contract will extend to next season. The Islanders will have him under contract for $500k (or so) and will be able to deal his rights to any team without him having to clear waivers.

    I could be wrong here, but I beieve that’s how it works. Either the Isles get him this year, or they get him next year. If he won’t report again next year, they have a low-contract asset to trade that doesn’t have to pass waivers. Seems like a pretty good move.

  37. J_P says:

    Yeah but all that is irrelevant because it was a Douche move for Garth to claim him in the first place. 

    I dont necessarily agree with Nabokov, but he appeared to have learnt his lesson when he signed a meagre $750K deal to sign with a playoff contender.  Obviously he was going to be claimed before he ever got to Detroit, but common, the Islanders?

    Garth probably wanted to sign Nabokov to showcase him for a trade, and now he got hosed.  If Garth actually thought Nabokov would play there he’s even more dillusional than I thought!

  38. TripleX says:

    Anyone arguing that the move by Garth Snow was just business and not the act of a childish poor sport.  This might change your mind.

    Well under the CBA, if Nabokov remains suspended he will be stuck with that small contract next season and forfeits his UFA status.

    Snow knew Nabokov would not play for his team and now he suspends him instead of trading him or puting him back on waivers.  I wonder how players in the NHL and other GMs feel about Garth Snow.

  39. slapshot777 says:

    Unless Quebec can drum up major investors there will be a no go on the team. If they think the Feds are going to pony up the dough than they can forget about the team right now. With regards to Quebec having a team that’s only helps the Habs, because Quebec will be the team everyone expects to have these francophone players and coaches and the Habs get left alone to do what they want and put  whatever player or coach they want in that position.

    It’s a win win for the Habs. The Quebecois will suffocated the Nordiques and the Habs can concentrate more on the hockey side like the rest of the NHL teams. Concentrate more on winning a cup, not which french person can we best put in that position even though he is not the best candidate for the job.

     

    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  40. Habfan4lfe says:

    Demers. Says it all. To be honest, it’s this idiocy of forcing the french language down everyone throats that has messed this club up. Instead of putting a good coach on the bench we got Martin. 97% of the Candiens players are non-Quebecois. Anyone and everyone can see how idiotic it is to say we need a francophone coach. This is the NHL, it’s not Montreal’s business. It’s Bettmans. And Demers, he should have stayed out of the NHL. He’s way passed his time and 3/4 of the time it’s just utter nonsense coming out of his big bouche.

  41. TripleX says:

    Quebec is putting tremendous political pressure on the Feds to help fund the new arena. 

    Apparently there is a billion dollars in the budget that could be used towards building sports complexes in Regina, Winnipeg, Hamilton and Quebec City.

     

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/cough-up-arena-cash-or-kiss-quebec-votes-goodbye-bloc-tells-tories/article1882526/

  42. observer says:

    Snow owes no team any “morality” as you obviously see it as. Change the rules. Too much backroom dealing by other unscupulous GMs to allow players to be moved or sent to minors. Remember when they caught Gainey with his pants down trying to send Hainsey a young #1 pick back to Hamilton – I am sure his friends were not going to claim him.

  43. Storm Man says:

    Well under that rock you come out of from time to time. I would ask you how can Snow trade Nabokov??? you may want to read up on the CBA rules. I think you need a prendre une douche as you are stinking up the site. 

     

     

    “I have never failed at anything in my life so far… TripleX 12/23/2010 16:34pm”

  44. TomNickle says:

    Childish poor sport?  What exactly is it that Snow owes to Nabakov or Ken Holland?  I don’t think Snow should have claimed him, but I’m not going to support Nabakov and Meehan in this deal.

    Nabakov went to the KHL because he wasn’t being offered the kind of money he wanted.  So now he comes back and signs to play with the Red Wings due to his desire to play for a Cup Contender.  Fact is, if he hadn’t left the NHL under the conditions that he did he wouldn’t be in this situation.  He knew the risks in signing with the Wings and having to clear waivers.  He’s willing to sit at home and pout, that’s fine too.  Is Snow an idiot because he claimed Nabakov?  Yeah.  He traded Roloson and has shipped out as many assets as possible in an effort to tank, he’s trying to lose, and that’s disgusting.  So why claim a veteran goalie on waivers?  He’s obviously doing it so that he can hold him until the deadline and wait for teams to come calling who missed out on him through the waiver wire, and that’s a shrewd move by a general manager who wants to acquire assets.  Is it right?  I don’t think so, but I don’t think losing on purpose is either.  I also don’t think it’s right to double dip.  Meaning sign in the KHL because you aren’t being offered the money you want and then come back to the NHL with this self righteous attitude that you can cure a contenders goaltending problems when the fact of the matter is he hasn’t won anything significant in the NHL himself.  This is one big circus, Snow and Nabakov deserve each other so he may as well just report.  Two peas in a pod.

     

  45. Everlasting1 says:

    Pathetic. No self respecting Habs fan would have such lofty expectations.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  46. Somethingwithhabsinit says:

    How is that not “just business”? He either gets an experienced goalie for cheap this year, or gets a cheap, tradeable asset for next year. That seems like pretty good business overall.

  47. JIMVINNY says:

    Gretz is pissed at the NHL for screwing him out of millions of dollars when they took over the Coyotes.  Until that is taken care of, he isn’t going to do anything to help them out.

  48. MikeC says:

    Snow cannot trade nabokov, he can only put him back on waivers. Do your homework TripleX

     

  49. Storm Man says:

    I think you need to return that magic 8ball Triple, It’s sounds alot like when you came on here telling us all that Apple would be the number one company at the end of the year. So what happened with that????. Back to the back of the bus Triple and try again. 

     

    “I have never failed at anything in my life so far… TripleX 12/23/2010 16:34pm”

  50. punkster says:

    Lorne, I take a different view of this than you and of the others who have responded. Take it for what it is; a laughable attempt by Snow (a notrious locker room joker when he was a player) to teach both the league and an egotistical player and his manager a lesson in business. There’s been alot of that going on this season (the Kovy II deal) and I would expect even more as the CBA negotiations get close.

    It’s a game. It really is just that.

    ***Subbang!!!***

  51. TomNickle says:

    I find it much more likely that he’s trying to get into the good graces of the general managers who compete with the Red Wings for a playoff spot.

  52. GrimJim says:

    Ottawa considers paying for stadiums with unspent $1-billion

    BILL CURRY, DANIEL LEBLANC and SEAN GORDON

    Ottawa and Montreal— From Tuesday’s Globe and Mail

    Federal Conservatives are eyeing an unspent pot of more than $1-billion from the 2008 budget as a way of funding pro-sports venues without coughing up new cash.

    The only problem with tapping into the P3 Canada Fund – managed by a Crown corporation and designed for projects with other governments and the private sector – is that the rules specifically forbid spending the money on facilities “primarily” used for pro sports.

  53. punkster says:

    That too, and in fact most likely because there is profit in that position. I just find it all humourous because the rules are so full of holes. As are so many GM positions…mostly the “a” type holes 😉

    ***Subbang!!!***

  54. GrimJim says:

    So while, you are technically correct, Triple X, do you really expect a Conservative government – lead by the former head of the biggest right-wing anti-government-spending watchdog in Canada – to flip-flop on the eve of an election, while running a federal deficit and claiming that they need to cut services and jobs, to spend $1 billion on pro sports facilities?

    Put all the “pressure” you want on Harper, he’s smart enough to know political suicide when he sees it…

  55. 24moreCups says:

    So Kirk is gone after this season, because he wants to try out a head couching job.

  56. TomNickle says:

    I absolutely love that Leaf fans are piling on Senators fans right now. And I have the following bit of information for Jeff(typical Leaf fan)if he’s kicking around. The Senators have Jared Cowan, Robin Lehner and Erik Karlsson to build around, oh, and a lottery pick this coming off-season, and the Leafs have Nazem Kadri, and, and, and………..well, that appears to be all. I do like Keith Aulie but if anyone can screw him up the Leafs can.  So you can pencil the Senators in for one of Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Sean Couturier or Adam Larsson.

  57. Say Ash says:

    What a jerk, eh?

  58. WestHab says:

    Happy Robbie Burns Day!

    Just in case you needed a reason to drink scotch during the game. We are doing haggis as well so I’ll be putting the pvr to use.

    – Who will be at the Heritage Classic?

  59. Everlasting1 says:

    The real coach behind the bench.

     

    Elohim:”Let us make an Adam in our image and after our likeness.” – Genesis 1:26

    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  60. solomio says:

    Ian

     

    I really hope you’re trying to be funny with that statement.

  61. TripleX says:

    I aplologize for the error, although I don’t believe it greatly altered my overall argument.

    Why the vitriol?

  62. TripleX says:

    Perhaps, but then that only buttresses my argument that it was more personal than business.

    Practical jokes are one thing, but playing with someone’s life is a douche move.

  63. TripleX says:

    I imagine if you advised your “clients” to buy Apple stock like my father and I did last year, they would be VERY happy.

  64. punkster says:

    Fine, just stop repeating that word please. Call him an ass or a fool.

    ***Subbang!!!***

  65. Say Ash says:

    Well, it’s Tuesday. But your reason is good, too. Guess I’ll crack open the Lagavulin. Cheers.

  66. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    Posting this again because half you commenters nauseate me and I must spew something….

    This is more of a reply to the posts below than it is to the original post but people… GET OVER IT! If you live in Québec, as does the Habs organization, you live in a province with the official language of FRENCH with a culture that is RECOGNIZED BY YOUR CANADIAN CONSTITUTION AS A DISTINCT NATION, and has the right to protect its culture and promote its language as it sees fit. The Canadiens are a team in a majority FRANCOPHONE city in an overwhelmingly FRANCOPHONE province. Since DAY ONE this team has been oriented toward and supported by the FRANCOPHONE COMMUNITY. The fact that the organization chooses to have coaches that can communicate with the people who have supported this team from the bginning and from which it drew its talent that enabled them to have the past success that they have is THEIR perogative and one that I agree with. Do you know the name of this team? Do you know what it means? And no, “CANADIENS” doesn’t represent the players in the uniform, but the city they play for, just like any other team name.

    As an ubiased outsider, an American with no significant Québecois ancestry to my knowledge, I am routinely disgusted by both anglophone media and the comments from anglo-Canadians. I read more Canadian news, politics, and history than I probably should, and really do not understand what exactly your problem is, those of you who have this itch that needs to be scratched by bashing the French heritage of Québec. The truth is, without Québec and its culture, your country would cease to exist in any significant form. So go on, tell them to “go ahead and leave if they don’t wanna be there” etc etc. What a joke. Be careful what you wish for. If that WERE to happen I suppose then you can about the redneck culture of your western provinces like Alberta that control your country in order to stay “different” from us south of the border… but then you’d just be Texas North. Read some history instead of stat sheets and get over it.

    And anyone who doesn’t think Harper will do a 180 on anything to get a spare vote is nuts and or ignorant. He’s been a flip flopping joke since elected. He will change his mind on anything for poltical expedience, and there will be plenty of money for that Québec arena sooner or later, regardless of how shady the back room dealings are.

  67. Storm Man says:

    I told them to buy apple stock 5 years ago. Tell your dad he is a little behind the times.

     

    “I have never failed at anything in my life so far… TripleX 12/23/2010 16:34pm”

  68. LA Loyalist says:

    Wow. Ok. How briefly can I do this?

    1. The concept of Canada is that of an equal partnership between the French and English cultures wherein each is equal. You are entitled to be served in an Alberta government office in French. You are entitled to be served in English by a Quebec City government worker (bon chance).

    2. The majority of Quebecois are fine with this arrangement. The problem is a minority of separatists who have used their position to blackmail the rest of the country by continually threatening to leave. What few are willing to remember is Rene Levesque did not get power because of a popular support for separatism, the vote was a reaction to the corruption of the Duplessis government, but the separatists took it as a carte blanche for their agenda. So obviously your reading of Quebec history is incomplete.

    3. Do you realize how much Quebec has suffered culturally and economically since the 80’s because of the ruling class’s unwillingness to evolve past their parochial paradigm? And don’t say it’s the Anglo’s fault – the separatists don’t like the “Francais du France” either, there was  a large influx in the 70’s and 80’s to Quebec of young French people because Paris was so expensive – and many of them have moved on to LA and New York, or god forbid, Toronto, because of local hostility. I lived through this and witnessed dozens of incidents.

    4. There used to be large dynamic communities in Montreal of Jewish, Greek, and many other cultures. The whole garment industry for the country was centered around St. Laurent. These are greatly diminished now, gone to Toronto, to the loss of Montreal.

    I am an anglo-Canadian. I studied in France. I lived in Montreal for some years and became a Habs fan in 1984. I have lived in California since 2000. And I can tell you with great authority that if you don’t see a difference between English Canada and the U.S. you are not paying attention and just “spewing” (your word) some agenda I can’t decipher.

    You would be stunned by how many Anglo and French Canadians are here in Los Angeles – and I guaranty you many of us would never have left if not for Rene Levesque and his heirs.

    No one is bashing French culture or heritage. We bash a minority of blackmailers who refuse to honor their agreed obligation to treat both cultures equally. Is that clear enough for you?

     

  69. TripleX says:

    Well, if that is indeed true?  Why would I doubt you?

    Since Apple stock has increased in value by 1400% over the last five years, you and your “clients” must be quite happy.  You must work simply as a diversion and a hobby.  Yes?

     

     

  70. LA Loyalist says:

    thanks for the reminder TripleX. I sold Apple at $99 because I needed a tax loss. That makes me nearly as dumb as a Leaf fan.

  71. observer says:

    Toe Blake was French. But Bob Gainey, Bob Berry and Al McNeil were not.

  72. Storm Man says:

    You’re that dumb a person I see Triple. There is not correct usage for the term Douche when talking about someone, It shows a low act of class and only people with a short vocabulary or a low class of living use that term when talking about someone. As for the therapy sessions I hope one day they will work for you.

     

    “I have never failed at anything in my life so far… TripleX 12/23/2010 16:34pm”

  73. zak says:

    My mistake thanks for the corection

  74. Storm Man says:

    You’re pathetic and it is funny how you try and turns things around here. You’re the one who came on here calling someone a douche, So the only hypocrite on this site is you and you only. When you become correct about something I will let you know. It is unfair in the way I keep pointing out the truth about you.

     

    “I have never failed at anything in my life so far… TripleX 12/23/2010 16:34pm”

  75. JohnBellyful says:

    Nicely put. Concisely done.


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