Game 42: Habs’ Latendresse bags OT winner

Chicago Blackhawks great Bobby Hull is flanked by Canadiens Hall of Famers Guy Lafleur (left) and Yvan Cournoyer before last night’s game.
Christinne Muschi, Reuters

Updated Wednesday at 6:40 a.m. with Gazette coverage

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Through 82 years and 625 games, you’ve usually been able to count on the Canadiens and Chicago Blackhawks to serve up an entertaining game of hockey.

The Original Six rivals were true to form Tuesday night at the Bell Centre, on a special evening when the Canadiens paid tribute to their grand old competitor from the Windy City.

With a whole gaggle of Hall of Famers in the house, including Chicago legends Bobby Hull, Stan Mikita and Tony Esposito, Guillaume Latendresse sent the local fans home deliriously happy, converting a cross-ice pass from Maxim Lapierre at 3:18 of overtime to give the Canadiens a 4-3 win.

The Canadiens put a dent in their malaise at home. The Habs, 21-13-8 overall, are now 8-7-5 at the Bell Centre.

Montreal took a 2-1 lead into the first intermission, getting goals from captain Saku Koivu, his eighth of the season, and defenceman Patrice Brisebois, his second as he returned from injury, wrapped around one by Chicago’s Jack Skille.

Montreal had a chance to make it 3-1 when Mark Streit was awarded a penalty shot after being hauled down on a shorthanded breakaway, but he failed to beat Chicago netminder Patrick Lalime.

The ’Hawks tied it up then went ahead with two quick ones in the second period, goals by Robert Lang on the power play and Kris Versteeg at even strength coming 19 seconds apart.

But newly minted all-star Andrei Markov blasted home a power-play goal almost nine minutes later to again even things up heading into the third. It was Markov’s 11th of the year, and proved to be the last goal of regulation time.


It was an eventful afternoon at the Bell Centre,
Canadiens rookie goalie Carey Price and first-year forward Kyle Chipchura shipped to the farm in Hamilton with netminder Jaroslav Halak and rookie forward Corey Locke coming east.

Habs head coach Guy Carbonneau made Mathieu Dandenault a healthy scratch to make room for Locke.

The Canadiens leave later today for Boston, where they’ll play the Bruins tomorrow. The four-game road trip continues with Saturday and Tuesday stops in New York – first the Rangers, then the Islanders – followed by a contest next Thursday in Atlanta. The Habs return home on Saturday, Jan. 19 to face Sidney Crosby’s Pittsburgh Penguins.

 

Guillaume Latendresse converts Maxim Lapierre’s pass behind Chicago goalie Patrick Lalime for the game-winning goal tonight at the Bell Centre.
André Ringuette, NHLI via Getty Images

305 Comments

  1. Bill H says:

    Strangely enough Sulemaan, I was checking the Bulldogs’ schedule this morning and marked that day in my calendar. It might be fun to check out the game.

  2. Smart Dog says:

    I forgot – ABOUT CHIPS! Some French journal ranks him a C and he gets sent down? That stinks!

    Chipchura – we all know you’re an A player… Nice that your teammate Locke gets a chance, but it shouldn’t be you. The team will miss your talent and hard work.

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    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  3. Smart Dog says:

    A good period by the Habs generally. All SIX KO’s are playing well. Kovalev, Koivu, Komi, Kost1, Kost2, Kosto… Higgins and Ryder both having a good game – Boullon, Hamrlik…. I guesss that’s why we’re up by a goal!

    Locke seems nervous a little but hopefully will settle down. Great play by Lats on the first goal to win the puck on the boards and dish it to Koivu for that really nifty dance he did with it in front of the net. Sweet! Watch for that on the highlight reel. Lats should shoot more though – he missed a couple of opportunities with soft passes.

    Every notice that Andre Kostitsyn has the puck a lot? Man, that guy knows how to control the play. Wait til he gets a little older.

    Let’s hope the Habs hang in. Stand tall Huet! You da man!

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    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  4. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Negative negative negative, this site makes me sick, we win at home, something that MTL has had a tough time doing, and BAM!!! everyhone is jumping on them, Huet was good, Brisebois scored, we win with a beauty in OT and you guys are still upset, what will it take for people to be happy

  5. PGHABS says:

    cough by Locke, obvious jitters….

  6. Habs_008 says:

    I already have tickets to that game, I will be there to lend support.

  7. A. Berke says:

    Here we go again.

    Listening to the game on cjad and in the first two minutes Huet coughed up the puck twice in front of his net.

    I wish Price was given a chance today. Oh well, we shall see.

    Ali B.

  8. Sulemaan says:

    The Baby Habs are playing the Baby Leafs on Feb.9th. Maybe all the Habs fans in Toronto should go and ‘represent’. Costs a lot less than a pair of tickets at the ACC. Thoughts?

    (I’m directing this to the posters here living in Toronto like Bill H, Newfoundland Dog and others who want to make the trek to Toronto…)

    http://www.torontomarlies.com/schedule/index.asp

  9. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    YOU THINK CHIPS WASN’t MAKING AN IMPACT ON THE ICE…WINNING ALL THOSE BATTLE IN THE DEFENSIVE ZONE…

    NOW WATCH WITHOUT HIM….

    BLOODY JOKE.

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    1. In my picture you’ll find one of the keys to our success…
    2. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    3. Delenda Est Torontium….

  10. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    Huet SUCKS the quicker he is traded the better.

  11. Bill H says:

    Wow! Chipchura and Price out. Halak and Locke in. I hope both the newcomers shine while they are here.

    As for the Hawks, I don’t think there are ever any easy games for the Canadiens. If they aren’t focused, they can blow it if the other team is on their game. So let’s hope the Canadiens are motivated after dropping the last one.

    On a bright note, those of us in Southern Ontario will get to watch 3 games this week, tonight, on Thursday against the Bruins and on Saturday against the Rangers. Lots of times we don’t have any Canadiens games in a week, so this is a treat.

  12. Scotty90 says:

    Your French is correct! Brisebois will be playing and Streit playing forward. There is no mention of Jorges.

  13. ebk says:

    I know you are but what am I?

    works every time

  14. krob1000 says:

    I just tried to read the article on RDs and from what I could gather they were dressing Brisebois and moving Streit to forward. Does this mean Gorges site or are we just playing with an extra d man??? Soeone translate this for me please.

  15. krob1000 says:

    That might actually be a good fit for Samsonov. They have a lot of character that may keep him in oreder and they play offensive hockey. Last chance Sergei or you are off to play on a line with Yashin. I would actually like to see him comeback and play well (not against us obviously).

  16. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    Kiss me you fool…………..

  17. Scotty90 says:

    Has he played against Montreal since he left?

  18. Samantha says:

    I’m really hoping he’ll get to play a couple of matches. I was so dissapointed when they sent him back down after camp. I felt that he had really proved himself. I mean, he was 10-6-0 with 2 shutouts.
    I think Price was healthy on Saturday, he just played a horrible game. :)

  19. Samantha says:

    THIS JUST IN….
    Samsonov was picked up on re-entry waivers by the Carolina Hurricanes.
    Seriously.
    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=226756&hubname=

    Good luck to him! But not too much…and not against us

  20. Scotty90 says:

    Just heard Halak is being called-up because Price has the flu. i wonder if he wasn’t feeling well Saturday… could explain his performance.

  21. krob1000 says:

    I lied earlier…..I guess Havlat has returned to the lineup and played against the Red Wings. I saw pieces of that game and don’t even remember seeing him so he must not be back to form…or you notice him. Strange though because I honestly don’t remember his name even mentioned (I was flicking back and forth but odd, very odd).

  22. krob1000 says:

    Glad you weren’t in my grade 7 class cause I don’t think there is a good comeback for that……well done. LOL

  23. J.T. says:

    Not because you turn into a hallucinagen when overheated?

  24. T-roy West says:

    Amen to that!

  25. krob1000 says:

    The Mayo-man…..cause I deliver.

  26. Smart Dog says:

    I agree with Mayo-man, even though he is sometimes a knob :) but Ian, the most important thing is that the Habs build a winner, not that Hamilton does. While it’s character building and good preparation for Hamilton to be strong, it is a secondary consideration. I like that Gainey has moved people up from H. and hope that he does shuffle the goal tenders around too as he suggests he will. As you point out – the big picture… which I think involves dealing with the fact that we are deep in Goal-tending assets. Look at Garon in Edmonton – Montreal knows how to make goalies…. hopefully we’ll get something for them and keep the best ones for ourselves. Tricky, but if they never play in the NHL how can we know what we have down there.

    That said, you make a good point about trying to see what Bob is doing and why, instead of questioning his every move. I agree, he’s done much right this year. It IS fun however to try to guess the next step, or diagnose a problem and suggest a cure. And fun, as you say, is what it’s about!

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    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  27. krob1000 says:

    I agree with jist of your message Ian but who is it directed at??? I don’t see any negativity on this thread or game by game stuff other than about tonights game which is in fact what this thread is about (Candiens vs. Blackhawks). The teams priorities are not strictly long term althugh a plan is in place. They definitely care about this year given our current positioning and every game does matter to some extent. You are right about the overall picture but goaltending is the most important aspect of a hockey team and Carey Price is a kid and our best prospect. We have an all star goalie who is a free agent at the end of teh year and a guy who is regarded as a capable NHLer (arguably two in Hamilton). There is real discussion worthy substance here.

    Price’s best interest is going to be looked after but not at the expense of the team. The team comes first and unless we fall far from the playoff picture game to game performance will matter to us and management. I know what you are saying but I don’t know why now and here as normally threads are littered with borderline hateful jargon….this one isn’t.

  28. Ian G Cobb says:

    Some of you people think that there is no long term planing in this organisation of ours. Do you realy think they put our goaltenders between the pipes like dunking cookies in your milk. At the beginning of the year we had 4 goalers to place where it would serve the players and the organisation best for the long term. There was 2 starters picked, one for the Montreal club and one for the Hamilton club. At the same time 2 backups were selected for each club.

    It was a colective management and coaching dicision to go with this year. Just like bringing up the kids from Hamilton one at a time, is all in the works over this year and next.

    This is why we hire a General Manager, and his duities are planned in years going forward, not game by game. You should try to see the bigger picture and i think you will enjoy the ride to the top a lot more. And when we stand together at centre ice with Stanly over our heads and our hearts pounding, each one of us will apreaciate all the thoughtfull decisions made by pros. along the way.

    IAN

  29. krob1000 says:

    You too eh!!! I am seeing a trend lately. My last name is Mayo so I after many years of childhood torment I can live with knob.

  30. Smart Dog says:

    I agree with knob. Good that Price watches a game or three. He shouldn’t be feeling the pressure to make the team win. He’s not used to this level of play… or to being beaten. He needs to regroup, refocus, see this with some distance and come back ready and rested.

    ________________________________________________________________
    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  31. Bill H says:

    He is flying tonight. So are his linemates. This is a great game with lots of scoring chances. I hope the penalty against Montreal doesn’t take the wind out of their sails.

  32. kovy says:

    the only reason chippy is going to hamilton is becausde og his face-off percentage.At the press confrence Gainey said that the main problem was face-offs and he just solved it.

  33. JF says:

    Agree 100%. From Price’s reaction to Saturday’s game, his confidence level is way down right now; he seemed really crushed by his poor performance rather than ready to put it behind him.

  34. krob1000 says:

    Okay.. I just flagged you for the knob comment!! lol

  35. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    Huet.

    Con’s

    1. Can’t handle the puck.
    2. Can’t control rebounds.
    3. Gets easly upset and fustrated.
    4. No good in shootout’s.

    Tell me again the pro’s

  36. N.B.habs fan says:

    knob 1000,Cant agree with you more,if he played and lost ,what then………

  37. krob1000 says:

    All the more reason to not start him. He needs to be hell bent on stopping pucks because that is all that is in his control. He cannot worry about redemption and I actually think he understands that based on his audio. I still think he sounded like a young kid though and although he was saying all of the right things he didn’t sound as confident as he needs to be. A little while out of the spotlight is what he needs and his next game should not be at the Bell Centre (and likely won’t be).

  38. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    I agree AdamG.

    Can it be?

    As I write Huet makes a good save……..

    One Good save – three weak goals against… Well…….

  39. nick says:

    i really hoped Price would start tonight. He seems hell bent on redeeming himself from his last performance, i would think that playing him tonight would give him a good needed boost in confidence.

  40. Chuck says:

    The first two defnitely looked a little on the weak side. A win is a win, though. We’ll see if the plan is to ride Huet like a rented mule from here on in.
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  41. Ed says:

    If Yanic Perreault plays tonight, it should be interesting to watch him on the face offs. Even though his career is winding down, & the point production is not there, he is still really good on the face offs. He has gotten more ice time in the last couple of games, & this is possibly because of the injuries.

    http://blackhawks.nhl.com/team/app?page=PlayerDetail&playerId=8458561&service=page&tab=gbg

  42. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    All teams just love to play in Montreal. Its like practice for them……………….

    Huet, if he played any good teams his stats would not be as they are right now…..

  43. southp says:

    I would like to see a convincing home victory tonight.
    Let’s build some Bell Centre Confidence!

  44. The Teacher says:

    That was a great play by Kovy

  45. southp says:

    Can’t believe someone would still take a chance on him.

  46. AdamG says:

    meh…i think sending price down is a VERY clear signal that the’re going to ride huet into the ground. based on the early returns, that’s where he’ll take us. sorry, i’ve NEVER been a big huet fan, and i just can’t understand how poor he plays when the game is tight…

  47. AdamG says:

    maybe he should speak to his goaltenders. this is getting stupid already. same thing vs rangers. same thing vs tampa. same thing vs washington. same thing tonight. come on. you need a save sometimes.

  48. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    People got the nerve to down Price.

    Mr. Huet is back to old form. 3 soft goals tonight.

    Time to put Halak in.

    Even Bob Mackenzie said that Huet should have stopped those shots……….

  49. krob1000 says:

    I second those condolences.

  50. Smart Dog says:

    I didn’t want to say it before because I didn’t want to jinx him, but Huet just seemed a little slow on the first goal. And now on the third. It’s like he’s thinking instead of reacting. For a team with such great goal-tending our goal tending seems really iffy sometimes. Timo, am I right or am I right??

    ________________________________________________________________
    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  51. Scotty90 says:

    Wow!…. I guess it must have been a little too early for Price. I don’t understand why they are sending Chipchura back to Hamilton? Problem with the face-off work of the Habs….! Why point the finger at Chips? Koivu and Pleks used to win over 70% of the face-offs(last year).. what happened to them? don’t blame Chips!

  52. Girth says:

    Condolences to M.Dandenault for the loss of his grandmother.

  53. Bill H says:

    Well, let’s hope we find out if a 2 goal game for Koivu is enough to get him smiling.

  54. Bill H says:

    Ha ha, that’s funny. Canadiens won 61% of faceoffs in the first period. When Bob Gainey speaks, people listen.

  55. Ed says:

    Ha ha. You noticed that. He better smile if he scores again.

  56. Bill H says:

    What’s gotten into this crowd anyway? Nobody complaining that should be traded because he wasn’t smiling enough after that goal? It must be something in the water. ;-)

  57. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    Huet’s time in Montreal is getting very short…..

  58. Smart Dog says:

    Lalime did have a great game. Huet played well but was a little soft on at least one goal. You’re right about some of the posters here. Hey – we WON!! And most of the team played really well – some of those Black Hawk kids are good – and this is a team that’s beaten Detriot more than once this year. Be happy gang!
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    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  59. RiverviewCanadien says:

    truth about what, come write an intelligent paragraph about what was so wrong about this game adn why you are so NEGATIVE

  60. Naila Jinnah says:

    Quick audio posting!!

  61. RiverviewCanadien says:

    exactly

  62. Smart Dog says:

    I know. I predicted a score the first time (weeks ago)… then Ryder’s last goal. Then Chips goal right after. Weird…. maybe I should change my name to Psychic Dog.

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    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  63. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    He is a great player because he has a great MENTOR right now….

    ———
    1. In my picture you’ll find one of the keys to our success…
    2. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    3. Delenda Est Torontium….

  64. N.B.habs fan says:

    SMART DOG good luck on the car ,and the next game HUET WILL HAVE A SHUT OUT,than mabe thes fans will be happy

  65. Smart Dog says:

    Good photo up top!
    ________________________________________________________________
    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  66. N.B.habs fan says:

    ok thanks ..

  67. Sulemaan says:

    Couple of others for you (great pic by the way) which you may or may not know…

    LOL: Laughing out Loud.
    ROFL: Rolling on the Floor Laughing
    TTYL: Talk to you later
    JK: Just kidding

  68. Smart Dog says:

    If he does, then I’m REALLY getting those lotto tickets!
    ________________________________________________________________
    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  69. N.B.habs fan says:

    Great photo ..dont you just love it.I can sleep better tonight WE WON,It is like a sleeping pill to me when we win.

  70. Habs_008 says:

    Dog, pick 7 numbers for my next super 7 ticket!

  71. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I re-read the Rules on this site, but I think one more should be added:

    When MTL wins at home (or on the road), only positive posts should be allowed :)

    Go Habs Go

  72. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I’ll second that

  73. The Teacher says:

    ya ok, good luck with that one lol

  74. Vecs says:

    Ryder is absolutely terrible

  75. N.B.habs fan says:

    thanks sulmaan.I will write them down,i only knew LOL,I am new at this and I cant type to fast.

  76. Vecs says:

    Cheers to that

  77. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I was wondering where you have been Teach…just wouldn’t be the same if you didn’t jump on at least one post…

    great game eh…and Huet gets the win…very nice

  78. Vecs says:

    Ripping on our best player (Huet) shouldn’t fly either

  79. RiverviewCanadien says:

    well I guess in alot of the posters eyes, this was a terrible game, adn Huet sucked…so if we win the Stanley cup, and the game is not a shut out, will eveyrone still be pointing out all the goals let in?

  80. RiverviewCanadien says:

    cheers

  81. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    I’m thankful for the win…but…

    WHY are we experimenting with these demotions and callups at this point?…the team WAS playing GREAT, the lines were formed like CONCRETE..the CHEMISTRY was like a NUCLEAR BOMB..even PRICE being there PUSHED HUET…STRIET BACK TO D till OBRYNE RETURNED was the only change needed….WHY DO WE NEED THIS REVOLVING DOOR IDIOCRACY??

    I REPEAT:

    WHY DO WE NEED THIS REVOLVING DOOR IDIOCRACY??

    BREEZE should not see the ice until an injury FORCES HIM into the lineup.

    over the last 3 weeks I really saw a team coming together…playing for the coach and each other…sticking up for each other..SPEED GAME…and HITTING GAME…OPEN GAME…a formula that “usually” results in headaches for carb but DAMM GOOD HOCKEY and above .500 in the WIN column…heck I even changed my PICTURE BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE WE HAD TURNED THE CORNER…but tonight KOIVU WAS TOSSED LIKE A RAG DOLL…

    YEAH THATS RIGHT>> YOU DON’T LET YOUR CAPTAIN BE TOSSED LIKE A RAG DOLL AND NOT DESTROY THE IDIOT THAT TOOK ADVANTAGE TO LABEL HIM…THATS RIGHT LABEL KOIVU when HE WAS OFF BALANCE….

    SOURAY WOULD HAVE TAKEN REVENGE ON THAT INSTANTLY>..we don’t have that.
    KOSTOP GET THE HELL OFF THIS TEAM IF YOUR NOT GOING TO BE TOUGH.

    ….again: WE DO NOT NEED THIS REVOLVING DOOR IDIOCRACY.

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    1. In my picture you’ll find one of the keys to our success…
    2. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    3. Delenda Est Torontium….

  82. 24 Cups says:

    Need a typing lesson? Then you should ask kRob. He can fill a couple of pages in seconds flat:-) LOL

    The Original 24 Cups

  83. Habs_008 says:

    I agree, Huet has been the best player on this team for sometime, we are not the same team without him. Price will be that player, but he is only 20, what do you expect? Things are not like they use to be in the old days of Roy or Dryden. It takes more time to mature and be ready for the NHL, its a different game now. The Fans need to relax and be Patient. Dont Rip a WIN!

  84. The Teacher says:

    hehe I didn’t jump on it, I posted the same sort of comment you did a while back..it never happens, there are always negative people.

    As for Price, i thought he should have stayed down at the beginning of the year. As he made the team I don’t think it’s right to send him down. I also don’t feel Huet has outplayed him by any stretch of the imagination.

    Get him some work…fine, but make sure he gets called back up RIGHT after the all-star game. Halak is his backup next year. Huet will be gone.

  85. RiverviewCanadien says:

    We won, I am happy and so should every last one you out there reading this right now, we are closer to #1, which we will get before playoffs

    Lets all go to sleep knowing that the Montreal Canadiens are in great hands, with sooooo much talent

    Good night all

    GO HABS GO

  86. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I agree with most of that, but I think Huet will be here next year and Halak will be traded by deadline…

  87. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    WE HAVE 2 LOSSES (regulation) IN OUR LAST 13 games…7 of 12 wins..

    THERE WAS NO PROBLEM…WHY RIP THE GUTS OUT OF THE TEAM…
    IF for injury purposes,,then YES…otherwise DO NOT CHANGE
    and do not try to justify it…I was shocked when I logged in this
    evening and heard about chips/price….

    what kind of politics are going on…

    ———
    1. In my picture you’ll find one of the keys to our success…
    2. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    3. Delenda Est Torontium….

  88. Smart Dog says:

    Not only that but the Bruins, Rangers, and Panthers all LOST! A good night for us!

    ________________________________________________________________
    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  89. The Teacher says:

    Depends what we can get for him, and depends how much Huet wants. I’d give him no more than 3 million.

  90. N.B.habs fan says:

    SMART DOG YOU ARE TO MUCH,,ROFL…

  91. 24 Cups says:

    Hi Guy – I stated earlier in the day that I wanted 4 points in the next 72 hours so we’re half way there. Huet will pick it up in Boston and make it a competitive game against Thomas. Rangers lost to Tampa tonight and Avery’s out with an injury again so Saturday is another possible two points. A reminder that Thursday’s game in Boston is on TSN at 7:30. By the way, loved the photo of Lafleur, Hull, and Captain Cournoyer!

    The Original 24 Cups

  92. 24 Cups says:

    Best thought of the night. Kinda like a four pointer even though we were playing in the other conference.

    Smart Dog – a personal question if I may. I notice in your signoff that you don’t note Lats as part of your Future looks bright list. And reason why? And as a point of information, are you a lab or a retriever?

    The Original 24 Cups

  93. Chuck says:

    A weak looking win against a team that had lost 5 in a row… but a win nonetheless. I’m glad for the two points, but they need to put together stronger, 60-minute efforts from the goal on out if they’re going to match their success of the first half of the season. Here’s hoping that they do.

    Nice to see Brisebois pot one, though!
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  94. Chuck says:

    Calling posters unflattering names, regardless of what you think of their opinions, isn’t acceptable. If you’re sick of the site, please feel free to move on.
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    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  95. habsgod says:

    way to go guys!!2 more points 10 points ahead of the make me laffs!!let’s bury those losers !!the cristowal played great!!1 soft goal but we won that’s all that matters!price sent down will nothing but help him when he gets recalled!!!and chipchurra will be a force when he comes back!how close is o’byrne to returning?we need his size on the backend gorges is starting to be come more and more reliable back there!!markov is the best defenceman in the eastern conference!komisarek is a rock and hamrlik is awesome.kovalev i love you mann!!what an awesome show you put on!!a.kostitsyn you are going to a 30 goal man in the near future and your brother will be a very good player as well latendresse will score 25 this year!!CARBONNEAU SHOULD BE NAMED ASSISTANT COACH FOR THE ALL-STAR TEAM(EASTERN CONFERENCE)

    GO!!HABS GO!!

    GOD IS A HABS FAN!!THIS IS GOD’S TEAM
    GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE !!!

  96. joe-hab-nuno says:

    good to have a home game and an overtime win. Yes there might have had a couple of weak goals but it happens every once in a while.

    People seem to think that they have sent Halak up to showcase him for a trade. Imo, i think they have sent Price down to get as many starts as he can and stay sharp and not cool down and to keep his cinfidence up.

    Gainey on his press confrence said that talking contract during the season is different for evry player, not that he doesn’t talk contract during the season like many have posted. As I remember clearly he signed Kouivo to an extension last year or 2 yrs ago.

    I’m only speculating here, but i think he’s probably in talks with Huet now and if Huet is waiting for FA for that last big contract and doesn’t want to resign with the habs for whatever Gainey wants to offer him, he would trade Huet for something rather for nothing most probably after the all-star game in which i think Huet should be in. Same time Huet is being showcased for the remainder of his stay here. Teams wheren’t looking for goaltenders afetr 20 games in and that is why Brygolov(spelling)was given away for nothing. It’s usually after the all-star game where there is interest for goalies. Don’t get me wrong, i would love if Huet could stay here for another 2 or 3 yrs but i highly doubt it cuz he’s shopping for that last contract. This way if huet gets traded, Price is playing all the games down in Ahl staying sharp, they all know what he is capaple of already in the Nhl (as do some of the fans here on HIO), and when he comes up he’s had that many games to work on his game. Halak as some has suggested will not get traded, he doesn’t have that many games experienced to get traded. Why would a GM take a chance on him unless they are looking for a backup.

  97. joe-hab-nuno says:

    But i’m betting there are alot of teams out there that would pay 4 maybe 5 for him. Look at his numbers the last 3 yrs. I personally wouldn’t want to sign him for more then 3 or 3.5. For that reason i tink he’s a goner before the season ends.

  98. joe-hab-nuno says:

    I wish the wink was clearer. When that happened i knew the cup was ours. That and when Sunstrom was in front of roy for a good 3 or 4 second(seemed it was that long anyways) trying to find a hole to shoot at and Roy was on his knees shuffling side to side and gave him nothing to shoot at.

  99. Dru says:

    Here’s a noob question for y’all.

    I was at the game tonight, and saw something I hadn’t noticed before. Twice, Komisarek laid a bone-crushing hit on a Chicago player by skating backwards (!) into them while they were along the boards. Both hits elicited huge cheers from the crowd and a very loud rattling noise out of the boards.

    Since I hadn’t noticed this before (it occurs to me that the camera angle would have missed both hits, as the puck had just been passed), my question is this: is this a new technique, either for Komi or in general? If not, is there a name for it, and who else does it? Either way, it’s freakin’ impressive.

  100. Chuck says:

    Why do you find it necessary to call people names if they don’t agree with your point of view? It really is getting a little over-the-top.
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    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  101. Habster101 says:

    ya its been going on for a long time in the NHL, its called a hip check if hes bending down or just an excellent bone crusher check to the boards otherwise…one of my favs.
    Boullion has perfected that hit pretty well too…
    Brisebois never learned it, he was too afraid he might get hurt.

  102. habsgod says:

    thank-you!!for that (you truly wear your name well)

  103. Dru says:

    Good stuff. Thanks to all for the replies. Of course I’ve heard lots of references to hip checks, but for some reason I hadn’t yet connected the term to the deed.

  104. Smart Dog says:

    Good point. Lats should be in there. When I wrote it I wasn’t sure. You don’t want to open yourself up to criticism on here!
    ________________________________________________________________
    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  105. nightmare_49 says:

    Breezer also had a hip check last night that surprised a lot of people.

  106. 24 Cups says:

    Years ago the Soviets toured North America and played some NHL teams in an exhibition series (to make some capitalist dollars.) The Flyers came out and gave them the Broad Street Bullies treatment. Ed Van Impe, a defenseman, laidout a Soviet player with a clean but devastating hip check. It was the final straw and the Soviet coach pulled his entire team off the ice in the middle of the period and headed for the dressing room. They only came back on the ice after being told they wouldn’t get their financial piece of the pie for the game. I think Flyers won the game something like 6 to 3. One of the craziest games I’ve seen.

    The Original 24 Cups

  107. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    Your the weakest link. GOODBYE…..

  108. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    LOL…..LMAO……..LMASA…..Good one Kjdavid….

  109. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Like I said, you can’t write anything intelligent

  110. cautiousoptimist says:

    Where can I sign up for this!?

  111. rogus says:

    Kaspiritis also has been know for some dirty hips.

  112. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    YOU ARE THE WEASKEST LINK…..GOODBYE.

  113. idle says:

    The habs have not lost in regulation time (meaning at least 1 point) in the last 8 game Huet has started. If that is terrible then I hope he really sucks soon.

    Most GM’s would be happy to have a goalie that gives you a chance to win every game. I thought both Price (until his last 2 games) and Huet (with the odd exception) have given the Habs a chance to win every game. That is why there are only a couple teams in the league that have lost fewer games in regulation then Montreal.

    Our goaltending situation is not a bad thing it is one of our stronger assets. Be Happy : )

  114. idle says:

    It’s funny how much worse a goalie is when all you do is watch the goals he lets in…

  115. idle says:

    Right and if only Huet had thrown a shut out and won that game to get us in the playoffs the Stanley Cup would have been ours!

  116. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    WHAT A BLOODY MISTAKE SENDING CHIPS DOWN…WHAT A BLOODY JOKE!!!!!
    NO LOGIC!!!!!!!!!ZERO

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    1. In my picture you’ll find one of the keys to our success…
    2. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    3. Delenda Est Torontium….

  117. Xtrahabsfan says:

    We barely beat a weak team who are missing 8 regulars,a wins a win but jeeezes.Huet sucked and Ryder was Bozo the clown out there and is starting to bring Higgins down!I smell troubles a comming.

  118. linp says:

    We are watching Andrei Kostitsyn growing up before our eye. He can become the next Alexei Kovalev.

  119. von says:

    Another terrible game by Huet… A bunch of bad goals, brutal puck handling, and if that game had gone to a shoot out we all would know the end result. And it doesn’t start with a W.

    I hope Halak gets a chance to start soon… Like next game soon.

  120. T-roy West says:

    Yeah, he is definately impressing lately. Is it me or does he seem to fall down alot when he shoots the puck with someone in front of him?

  121. Habs_008 says:

    I dont think Huet played bad, besides his stickhandling and the third goal (although the D should have maybe cleared the rebound) i thought he was decent. I really like Huet, he is good goalie.

  122. linp says:

    Fully agree. Our team is stronger with Chips.

  123. Girth says:

    Medium game… for Huet.

    I suspect we’ll see Bob showcase Halak… maybe Thursday.

  124. RiverviewCanadien says:

    wow, nobody is happy with this team, even when they win.
    Geez guys, that was a good hockey game, we won!!! WTF Huet was good, he and the team got the win…

  125. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    Your point is ??????????????

  126. Hammer says:

    A close exciting hockey game. I thought oh no when Huet laid an egg in the second period, but some big saves later saved the game. Nice play by the young folks, and the Captain had a lot of jump. Good to go on the road with a win under their belt.

  127. N.B.habs fan says:

    noticed Locke did allright on the faceoffs,

  128. RiverviewCanadien says:

    yeah wins at home is a terrible thing for the Habs :)

  129. Smart Dog says:

    Okay Boys and Girls, Puppies and Kittens, here’s a summary for your amusement/disagreement/catharsis:

    1. Kovalev, A. Kostitsyn. We’ve got two guys who can control the puck. Kostitsyn looks like he could turn it up a notch with a little more time… keep watching that kid – and his brother’s got wings!
    2. Latendresse, Lapierre – both had strong games… hungry for the puck, pushing people around. Amen.
    3. Koivu. Back in old form. Why do they keep putting guys on his line who can’t score?
    4. Kostoplous. Had his best game in a long time. Amen to that too.
    5. Komisaurus, Hamrlik, Boulon. All came up with big plays. McGuire said Kovalev was his monster. No – Komisaurus is a monster on every play… I think he stole a few wallets. Grrrrr….. great to watch!
    6. Breezer. I’m going to start buying lottery tickets. I said in a post this afternoon I wanted him to score. He scored. He also threw pucks at opposing forwards in our own end. Next time I’ll have to ask that he doesn’t do that. My bad.
    7. Chipchura. Should’ve been in this game.
    8. Huet. Should’ve been in this game too. Actually he did get into it about halfway through. He’s like that sometimes. Take some Ginko Huet. You need 60 minutes of focus attack, not 30-40.
    9. Carbo. Getting angry about the right things. Good.
    10. Plekanic. Deserved more than he got out of this one. Played well, not much to show for it. Keep it up.

    oh, and 11… Ryder. Hmmmm.. I won’t touch that one.

    :)

    Arf!

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    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  130. Proudones says:

    “Rip the guts out of the team”?
    Get real.

  131. Erik says:

    Great win !!!! Way to go HABS!!!!!!!!!!

  132. N.B.habs fan says:

    I was wondering why they had brezzer in the overtime,(my nerves took a beating there)GREAT GAME THOUGH GO HABS GO

  133. Habs_008 says:

    Locke Looked Nervous, I think he will be better the next time out, Breezer gets a goal but his give-a-ways arent worth him being on the ice. I hope we sign streit to a 2, 3 or 4 year deal, he was all over the ice tonight. Kovi was excellent as usual, Lates had a good game. Ryder and Higgins were sort of invisible except for a few plays. Overall we beat a team that is on the way down. We should have had the game won before OT, but a WIN is a WIN. Is it me or does Captain K look tired, or injured, he looks like he is missing some Jump, he had a good game with a goal and all, but it looks like something is up……

  134. RiverviewCanadien says:

    really but this is getting ridiculous, Huet was really good, just watched some highlights of the saves and the goals, no weak ones there, and Lalime was good as well.

    This site has a problem, too many egos and whiners…

  135. N.B.habs fan says:

    HI THERE smart dog GOOD PERDICTION ON BREZZER,this not the first perdiction you made that came true ,do you remember?

  136. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I noticed that as well about Koivu, looks like he has run out of steam at some points…but I am happy, team effort adn they got the win

  137. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    U have issues cournoyer12………..

  138. 24 Cups says:

    Good point. His play has been great lately but he still has a lot of refining to do in terms of his offensive finishing skills. He’s a long way from being a Kovalev.

    As to your other posts concerning Brisebois. On one hand he scored a goal and logged some decent ice time. But as you mentioned, after all these years he still keeps passing out in front of his net or making the soft pass up the middle at the worst possible time. I don’t get it. With all his experience you would think he would have corrected this lapse in judgment. Unfortunately, it makes him appear worse than he really is.

    The Original 24 Cups

  139. RiverviewCanadien says:

    No you have the issues, the team wins a very exciting hockey and all you do is jump all over everyone…what will make people like you happy

  140. Habs_008 says:

    I thought I would be the only one, but YES we WON! and DOG, he is not getting a Norris, but he did put one in! Look out the window, is a car out front???

  141. N.B.habs fan says:

    I think HUET played great. 1 goal he should have had ,but he came back and did a great finish.

  142. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    NO WEAK GOALS….

    Boy do U need glasses…..

    What game did u watch?

  143. RiverviewCanadien says:

    ok Huet and the whole team sucked, is that what losers like you want…

  144. RiverviewCanadien says:

    well apparently I need glasses becuase they were ALL weak goals…they are all upset, becuase Huet came off the bench COLD, getting over the FLU and stole the show and won…nothing will make these babies happy…nobody can do anything right with is team, sorry but Lalime had a great game, he came up big for the Hawks…I am sick of this site and most of the posters, they get a win, and people jump all over them with negativity…WTF

  145. Smart Dog says:

    I’m lookin! I’m lookin!

    The last game I wished for a goal for Ryder and then Chips! I got both! Next game I want a shut-out!!! (and a car)
    ________________________________________________________________
    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  146. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    People like U to face reality and accept the truth…

  147. N.B.habs fan says:

    riverview .what does WFT stand for,just wondering ,I am trying to learn these codes

  148. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I am not allowed to post things like that but it means What The F@#$!

  149. Ian G Cobb says:

    Detroit can resign and keep all there players under the cap because the players know that they make more playoff money than regular season contract money. Keep winning and you can keep your team together ! Very simple story.

  150. Ian G Cobb says:

    Reply is above Joe-

  151. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    Since we’ve almost exhausted this thread…I offer a great link I came across.
    An interview with Robert Plant, he talks alot about his history and the present…very good listen.

    For those who are of the Dynasty years (70′s and up) and with the most recent concert they had at the O2 in London…you’ll appreciate.

    http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2005/05/11/1/a-conversation-with-musician-robert-plant

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    1. In my picture you’ll find one of the keys to our success…
    2. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    3. Delenda Est Torontium….

  152. Shiloh says:

    Todd is irreplaceable – he is simply the best.

  153. Habs_008 says:

    Lets close the book on this game, and move on to Boston…..Huet should get the start. Halak will get a start or two before he is sent back down or traded. I hope Locke has another chance to showcase his worth. I think he could be a good player in this leauge if givin the chance, maybe not a St.Louis but he will be able to put up some numbers.

  154. rogus says:

    What I meant was at 1.5 mil for Osgood, Huet must be wondering his own worth.

  155. nightmare_49 says:

    You ommitted that the Hawks won most of the battles on the boards as that is what keep the game close. The Habs were very tentative , to be nice , in that aspect of the game.(semi footsteps). The Habs played like they wanted an easy game last night but the Hawks didn’t agree. It’s still 2 points.

  156. krob1000 says:

    The only Hawk that stood out on the boards to me was that Byfuglien kid. Other than that I didn’t see it that way at all. I actually thought we killed them in their end….I think about three times Lapiere alnoe won battles behind the net and came out front with the puck. Kovy’s whole line all won battles, Koivu was o.k. until Kieth tackled him (a la kostopolous),etc. I really didn’t notice that (not saying it didn’t happen) but it couldn’t have been that bad or my wife would have gone upstairs (I am not the best guy to watch a game with live if the team isn’t working).

  157. nightmare_49 says:

    The playoff money given to players is just pocket change for them ,Ian. It’s not much money for them.

  158. nightmare_49 says:

    You didn’t see Markov and Cube bailing out (a la Brisbois) while being forechecked to name a few and even Pierre was mentioning that Muller was going crazy behind the bench about the Hab’s commitment.

  159. Hoegarden says:

    So far, so good;
    4th in the league in scoring, numero uno on the PP but we still suck big time on faceoffs and PK.
    Knock on wood, as in no major injuries this year. Look at the BlackHawks, 8 regs down.
    Minor injuries have been a blessing (young Bulldogs coming up).
    Is there an expiry date on “Get on 84′s back” ? our new Yvon Lambert ! Give it a break please.
    Kosto is our new version of old # 6 himself – Jim Roberts, hard worker, cement hands.
    Part two of the season is where boys are separated from men; do we play Smokes, Dandy etc or the kids ?

  160. Bouleau noir says:

    Keep winning helps keeping players longuer than otherwise,.. it also helps attracting specifics UFAs,.. a stable winning environment is a huge asset.

    Our organization erred last year and we missed the chance to establish 3 straight playoffs appearances in a row and thus weakenned our winning status as a franchise to a city that failed to qualify 5 time in the last 8 seasons.

    Making the playoffs this season is paramount to everything else and any decisions, trades or absence of it this year is having and will have this principle as the sole motivating force.

  161. Hoegarden says:

    well said, no playoffs, with at least one round in the bag, no UFA.

  162. Hoegarden says:

    Oh oh ! Smokes has a green light to lace’em up ! Who sits now ?

  163. Bouleau noir says:

    The only thing that matter is that our first 3 lines (put together 6 games ago) keep on going the way they did during that period,… they are at the core of our rescent success ( 10 points out of twelve) and have redefine our identity as a team ( 27 goals in 6 games),… who cares about who will play on the fourth line… all players we have are adequate to play in this role…Smo, Dandy,Kosto, Streit or what have you are all fines… as long as they remained playing on the fourth line.

  164. Ian G Cobb says:

    I beg to differ, each round won means a whole lot of bucks for players and the club. TV money alone comming in is huge playoff bucks. Most players hated to play for Scotty, he is one tough SOB, but they love him when they get there playoff checks in the summer. If you go all the way , some players make triple what tey made under contract.

  165. newbrunswick troy says:

    holy crap; does francis boullion ever look weak out their against hawks////fact is i havnt seen him play very well very often this year///maybe we should have kept robidas and let boullion go to dallas///oh wait that was gainey who seen that//when he was in the big D

  166. T-roy West says:

    Hey Troy – same name,age and province and we both share the same opinion. Boullion has a hard time clearing people from the crease and takes penalties because of it. I think if your not putting the puck in the net then you should be a really good defenceman – and he is not.

  167. habsguy says:

    24cups…I really hope you’re joking…did you even see that game…heres the so called hip check.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SweXHT8mCM0&feature=related
    Ed Van Impe didn’t know how to hip check, he was a goon period!!!!!
    (clean but devastating hip check) my butt…you really shouldn’t make stupid comments like that unless you know what you’re talking about!!!!

  168. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    WHO WAS THE BEST DEFENSEMAN HITTER that the HABS HAD post Dynasty years?

    ULANOV and MASON without a doubt were feared.

    Ulanov would come at you from NOWHERE and DESTROY YOU, HIP, FOREARM to your FACE, crushing hitter.

    MASON would stand you up and basically sucker punch you and knock you flat and never EVER GET called for it.

    Not sure how many on here remember those 2 ASSETS…but they get my call (since defenseman hitting has been brought up)

    (Komi is next to carry that torch)
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    1. In my picture you’ll find one of the keys to our success…
    2. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    3. Delenda Est Torontium….

  169. Habster101 says:

    LOL I am still rolling on the floor…..

    Love Led Zep, the two greatest things that were happening in the 70′s…Led Zeppelin and Montreal Canadiens…

    oh ya, and also, I almost forget…custom Vans

    excellent thread….

  170. The Teacher says:

    Now I know you two have never seen Cube play.

  171. The Teacher says:

    That’s not what is reported Ian. I know all the players share in and at most will make an extra 140K each MAX.

  172. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Yes it’s good to win but…the Black Hawks are a rebuilding team with a rookie D AND WHERE MISSING 8 REGULARS. And a win is a win but that team almost beat us!!!So how are we going to perform vs the Ducks or Sens and in those games can we be sure Huet will do a Roy and stand on his head in order to stop the puck?I say trade him,it’s a reality move. And Ryder,is he going to have any consistency and lead us against the real powerhouses?I see a NO-SHOW in Mr. Ryder!And Breezer&Smoke, would this not be a good time to fill their spots with up and comers in preps for the big show???I THINK SO!!!Reality is in need indeed,go Habs ..,

  173. habsgod says:

    does anyone know how carey is doing the the bulldogs tonight??what about chipchurra?

  174. habsgod says:

    i think bob gainey is working on a major trade!!i think he’s going to bring us the impact player we want but i don’t know who it will be any ideas?

  175. 24 Cups says:

    Hey habsguy – chill out man, guys from Sutton and Stouffville have to stick together. Thirty years is a long time. I thought it was a clean hit that cleared the ice after many Broad Street Bully lock and load plays. The one on the video was definitely a hit from behind/crosscheck although it appeared to be harmless:-) Was Steve Downie on that Flyer team?!

    I stand corrected (again!) but I don’t believe there have been many times when a team has left the ice and refused to continue the game. It was quite obvious that the Flyers had a hidden (or not so hidden) agenda in that game. The Cold War was big in those days. I bet they might have even had Kate Smith singing the anthem.

    Anyway, the list of names sure brings back memories of just how many tough/dirty players they had. Kelly, Saleski, Schultz, Dupont, Watson etc, not to mention you know who. It wasn’t my style of play but like it or not they won two Cups with it.

    The Original 24 Cups

  176. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    He won 3-2.

    Yeah Price…

  177. habsguy says:

    who the heck is Mason…I do remember Dave Manson AKA Charlie, but that was when he was with the Hawks, when he came to the Habs he was a pussycat, thats why he didn’t last here !!!!

  178. AdamG says:

    sweet win last night. thought it was deserved as we did outplay the hawks. huet made some nice saves and did well for the final 40 minutes of play, but he can’t keep giving up 3-4 goals per game. at some poijt, the offensive well will run dry for a bit and we’ll go through a stretch where we can’t buy a goal. it’s then that we’ll need huet to steal a game or two. no room for softies in those games, and no room for softies when we play teams like ottawa, jersey, rangers.

    still, for the life of me, can’t understand why people are ragging on gui. saw it on TSN boards, heard it on 110%. i just don’t get it. i think he’s been everything we’ve hoped for. and one day he’ll probably be a consistent 30-goal guy. he’s starting to remind me of john leclair. i remember leclair came to the team with great fanfare but wasn’t scoring 30 goals from the outset. everyone starting calling him a bust and we threw him into the recchi deal.

    as for the new guy, locke, not a good sign that he barely saw the ice. i don’t think the organization has any plans for him. he won’t be put into a position to succeed. this is one time i believe that the Habs may actually be showcasing a player for others to see if he can handle himself and keep up at the NHL level. think about it–there’s no room for locke on this team right now. there’s no point in putting him on the 4th line, he’s not that kind of player. who knows. i hope we see halak at some point on the road.

    and did anyone read jack todd’s column? what was that about? man does that dude ramble incoherently. is anyone going to replace him at the gazette? the sports section is woefully under-written as it is.

  179. AdamG says:

    yeah but ulanov would skate across the ice to do it and leave his partner to fend off 3-on-1s

  180. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Here we go again with negative posts following a win. The reason this game went into OT is Patrick Lalime. We should’ve won easily by a few goals. When we play the Sens & ducks, we’ll elevate our game to their level, don’t worry.

  181. habsguy says:

    24 cups, you’re right dude, I shouldn’t have jumped the gun like that…sorry!!

  182. Chuck says:

    The two points are great, but I’d worry more about our knack of playing down to another teams’ level, rather than forcing them to play up to ours. That trend will eventually come back to haunt us if it’s allowed to continue. The Hawks were a depleted team last night; 8 regulars out, coming off of 5 losses in a row, and their third defensive pairing benched for most of the third period. Yet, we still needed overtime to beat them. Not exactly what I’d call a strong win. Let’s hope that they can kick it up a notch for Boston.
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    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  183. RiverviewCanadien says:

    hit the nail on the head, that is the only reason because Lalime stepped his game up BIG TIME! Had nothing to do with Huet letting in bad goals

  184. Chuck says:

    So why didn’t we step up our game big time and soundly defeat a team that was ripe for the picking? If Chicago’s linup hadn’t been so depleted of regulars, and we gave the same effort as we did last night, I’m not so sure that the outcome would have been the same.
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    “Vote Saku for All-Star… or little Timmy gets it!!!”

  185. krob1000 says:

    Aside from an 18 second span I thought we did outplay them drastically. We outshot them, out chanced them, outhit them, outscored them so in my eyes we did outplay them…bigtime. The only possible area of the game that they beat us in was goaltending but Huet goes home with the W so even that can’t be argued….I am sureit will be though.

  186. 24 Cups says:

    Detroit just resigned Chris Osgood for three years at $1.5 mil a year.

    The Original 24 Cups

  187. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    WOOF WOOF WOOF…… U are so wrong Mr.

  188. rogus says:

    That must not make Huet happy.

  189. HABZ 24 says:

    Our habs win again! another 2 pts towards a playoff berth.even breezers chipping in. saku’s back on track.habs didnt totally cave in the 3rd and tied it late,shows they’re not giving up in 3rd like some other games.guy.L.is proving he belongs .price needs to play, so the farms best for him now.locke must show what he can do quick its now or never for him. go habs go!!

  190. joe-hab-nuno says:

    How the hell does Detroit always get these gys to accept so little money.

    Osgood is putting up some good numbers this year but look at the team in front of him.

    He also is not a money goalie, come playoff time we see the real osgood.

  191. krob1000 says:

    Off shore accounts!!LOL

  192. A. Berke says:

    Actually IMO, salaries in the major sports leagues have reached obscene levels and I don’t believe they can be sustainable for a long time.

    It’s about time that they came down to more earthly levels

    PS: this is not something about making Huet happy or unhappy. I’m talking salaries across the league

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  193. 24 Cups says:

    Osgood is an interesting case. He won two Cups with Detroit years ago (one as the starter, Dandy was also part of those teams) and after this contract extension he will have played in the NHL for close to 18 years, which can’t hurt in the pension fund. His total career salary will be $28 million, even if they buy him out during the third year. Not bad for a guy who was never a real ‘star’ over the years. Heck, he was even claimed on waivers once.

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  194. joe-hab-nuno says:

    For this once, yes they came down to earthly levels, but it’s not something we’re goig to see often. It’s been years I’ve been saying that athletes are ridiculously getting paid. But it’s something that is there to stay unfortunatlly. I remember back in the day when there were 2 Super super stars(Gretzky and Lemieux) egtting paid around 3 mil then the stars at 1 or 1.5 then everyone else under 1 mil. which made sense.

    Then we got to the days where a Holik got paid 8 mil. Now the super stars and stars are paid the said even average players are paid that much now.

  195. Corio says:

    Regarding last night’s game, the Habs were definitely a better skilled team out there but we are extremely weak defensively. The Habs allow the opposing team to cycle the puck around in our zone during 5 on 5 play giving them chances to put away the puck. The team really needs to narrow the gap between themselves and the opposing player with the puck instead of skating in circles. Also we REALLY need work on our penalty kill and face-offs it is to the point of embarrassment..

    Other then that I am really excited about the state of the team thus far!

  196. idle says:

    I was not singling out your post, I brought Huet and the others in because people often say so in so should not be playing because he is taking ice time away from a young player who should be gaining experience. No one is going to roll over for a younger player. These guys are fighting to keep their jobs too.

    As for golf (I’m not a fan) that is why I said to substitute golf for any other example you want. I just thought the Golf example best illustrated the point.

  197. The Teacher says:

    I agree Krob1000, although I don’t like Brisebois as a rule, I admit he has been playing fine this year. The completely unphysical play is maddening though, if you can’t play a little bit physical (maybe he’s scared of being hurt) then you shouldn’t be in the NHL.

    I agree, Komisarek has been giving the puck away a lot this year, but nobody calls him on it. Sometimes he just softly swings his stick and gives it right back to the other team. He definitely still has a few things left to learn from Hamrlik.

  198. krob1000 says:

    I saw that but then why was Gorges absolved on the first goal as he backed off his guy who just whacked home the rebound…..because he is not Brisebois. At least Brisebois scored. I still think Brisebois is not a liability and he is doing just fine. He is not an impact player by any stretch but he is not a liability as people suggest.

  199. krob1000 says:

    Not saying you absolved Gorges…just that everyone notices every little thing Brisebois does and noone comments on other guys mistakes. Brisebois played a solid game last night…as solid as an y defenseman not named Markov or Hamrlik yet he still got ripped. Komisarek had three giveaways….no mention. Brisebois had two (one was a fifty foot pass that was picked off in the neutral zone tha most guys would have just dumped out but he at least tried to make a pass). Brisebois also scored (yeah it was flukey). I know how everyone feels about Brisebois but it is exxaggerated in most cases and he is as good as Bouillon, Streit (as a defenseman), or Gorges (right now but Gorges will be better)…in my opinion which is obviously the same as either Crbo/Gainey or both.

  200. Chuck says:

    I wouldn’t worry about most of Brisebois’ detractors. A lot of folks just can’t get past their prejudices about his play to give him a fair shake and to look at his contributions to the team objectively. It’s like some people want him to fail, so they nitpick over every little thing in his game that they see as a liability.
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  201. idle says:

    So why stop there. Huet prohibits Price from getting NHL experience, Brisebois prohibits Georges, Kost. prohibits Chip., Smo. prohibits…

    Why not just sit the whole team and bring up the Bulldogs so all of our young prospects get some experience?

    You forget that this is highest level of hockey and like other sports it is a competition to get here. The top golfers make the PGA and you don’t here people saying that some of the top golfers should sit tournaments out so that younger golfers can get PGA experience. Use the same example on whatever pro sport you want. The best players in the world have earned the right to be there.

    It has been that way for years, so I say let the the younger players fight for and earn their spot the same way as the Brisebois and Huets had to when they first broke into the leauge.

  202. Bill H says:

    Sadly, you are right about this. Brisbois is a frequent scapegoat. But it isn’t just Brisbois. A recent poster stated that he hoped both Locke and Halak play poorly so that the move blows up in Gainey and Carbo’s faces. People are very passionate about the Canadiens, but I don’t see this kind of attitude as being very positive.

  203. idle says:

    It’s funny. I have tried to think of another Hab that people have singled out so heavily before for ridicule and torment. I don’t have the knowledge of the past that others on here will have but the closest I can come up with is red light Rasicot.

    I think Brisebois is an average NHL player, not great but not the mega villain he is made out to be.

  204. idle says:

    I blinked twice when I read that too

  205. coutNY says:

    I think I backed up my ‘prejudices’ as you call them ~ Chuck

    With my arguement I state we have equally as good or better players to fill the roster spot he occuppies. I agree other than roster spot (which is big) he doesn’t hurt the team outright every night, but he is mediocre player on the downside of their career on a team with an abundance of Defensman… I see him as the most expendable or having the least upside for any future plans.

    What’s a big arguement for keeping him?

  206. coutNY says:

    Because Huet adds something to the team, he is one of the best at his position. Smolinski has a no movement clause. Breeze-bye has Carbo hoping his Cup history will bring something to a young core of defenseman.

    GOLF are you kidding me… a game that involves no physical aspect and 80 year olds can play?

    Let Breezer play in the SENIOR NHL league, which is where the older PGA players go when their strength and skills dwindling beyond the PGA level!

    It also been the way that older players retire to make way for younger talent….. How did Huet get into this conversation. If Breezer was better at his position than everyone else it would be a different arguement. We have skilled players that play his role better!

  207. Chuck says:

    countNY, I wasn’t specifically referring to you, as you lay out your thoughts as to why he shouldn’t be on the team. You must admit though, that there are many that do post here whose argument against Brisebois is nothing more enlightening than “Brisebois sucks.”
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  208. Chuck says:

    Everyone has an opinion, and everyone feels that it’s their opinion that’s correct. Unfortunately, that also tends to skew peoples perspectives instead of looing at a situation objectively. It’s just human nature, but an annoying trait nonetheless. :)
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  209. krob1000 says:

    We don’t have anyone better than Brisebois right now. Who is better???Gorges??? YOu only have to put up with Brisebois for 40 more games and then four rounds of playoffs. He will porbably only play in about 25 of those games anyway. Let the man retire where he had his glory days and do so in peace. He is not hurting anything. We are no better right now with Gorges in over him so lets give our only surviving cup winner a little dignity in his courageous return to a town that ran him out. Montreal will always be his home and rightfully so….he helped us win our last cup and that may not mean something to some of the people out here but it sure as hell means something to the young defenseman tin that locker room. Let’s not forget that he is not only a veteran but a veteran with a big fat Cup ring.

  210. krob1000 says:

    PS I am curious how long it will be until someone notices that four rounds comment.LOL

  211. Chuck says:

    One can hope…! ;)

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  212. coutNY says:

    Brisebois has been playing on the second line and PP point. I argue Streit is a better pont man and Defenseman for that position. O’Byrne will return and he is better suited because of his physicality for the second pairing. And yes I would even argue Gorges plays as good or better when given regular time and plays more physical.

    So we are willing to keep him in a roster spot, even if it means moving someone or sending them to Hamilton because we owe him for winning the cup 15 years ago… What about skipping town for the paycheck in CO?

    Dandendault and Kovalev also have rings… not with the habs but they are big fat cup rings none the less!

  213. krob1000 says:

    When O’Byrne returns he will likely bump Brisebois and/or Gorges to the pressbox on a rotating absis. The job can be Gorges but he has not done anything yet to take it and until he does it will be and should be Brisebois’.

  214. coutNY says:

    That’s your opinion, I am not absolving Gorges, but he is young, teachable, and expected to make more mistakes, but also diverting the attention by pointing the finger at others does not make Breezers vetran mistakes excusable.

    …and Yes, they all make mistakes, but having him on the roster prohibits youngesters that have a future with the habs from being on the squad to learn from their mistakes. He does not add anything over these younger players in my opinion.

  215. coutNY says:

    Gorges had been doing better when playing regular shifts with Cube and I would have no problem with Brisebois and him rotating with limited time on the 3rd trio. This was what I as a fan understood as his role, but until his last 4 games his minutes were among the highest on the team with an average around 18 per game.

  216. coutNY says:

    I don’t hate the Breezer… I do admit he’s been on the wrong end of a lot of ridicule. Wait a few games and the focus will go back to Ryder..lol

    He must be up there with the Breeze in the ridicule deparment

  217. coutNY says:

    Owe I get it… I thought your were referring to 4 rounds in the habs summer golf classic… ahh just kidding!

  218. nightmare_49 says:

    Check out the replay and you’ll see that he (Gorges) was starting to lose his balance and wasn’t backing away but was trying to keep his balance and stop from falling on his butt.

  219. nightmare_49 says:

    I’ll second that , Chuck.

  220. Smart Dog says:

    The Hawks are injury depleted, without Toews as well as several veterans, and weak on special teams. The Habs need the win at home and to keep their upward movement in the standings… let’s hope they pounce on the wounded Hawks!

    One warning – the Hawks know how to come back. I hope Huet is sharp and steady.. to lose this one against a sub-500 team full of call-ups would be a motivation killer.

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  221. 24 Cups says:

    Agreed Dogman. Let’s not have any excuses, we should beat the Hawks and then pounce on the Bruins one more time. Anything less than four points will be unacceptable. These are the games we have to win on a consistent basis if we want to make the playoffs and take it to the next level. By the way, this Sharp kid is playing great for the Hawks. Kane has more assists, but otherwise Sharp leads his team in every other category. Looks like Philly gave up on him just a little too early.

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  222. coutNY says:

    Hey, Wasn’t it a team full of call-ups that got us going in December? …I know what your saying, just messing with yeah Dog!

  223. 24 Cups says:

    Both of Montreal’s midweek games are on TSN, Chicago tonight and Boston on Thursday. 7:30 start for both.

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  224. Sulemaan says:

    I think the team should let Price start. Give the kid a chance to rebound from his loss against Washington. I’m not doubting that Huet has played really strong but I just don’t want to see the young goalie lose his confidence. Give him a one-game shot at redemption and he’ll show everyone.
    But if Carbo goes with Huet, I can’t argue with that either as he has played very well as of late.

  225. Smart Dog says:

    I think I read that it’s Huet in net. I agree with you though – I think Price would come out strong… and I agree with the person who said Huet is great but not when over-worked… he seems to play well after a break. But we’re not in charge! Maybe we should be. ;)

    CNY – I KNEW someone was going to say that… but our call-ups are just BETTER. And the only veterans we’re missing… are ones we can do without!

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  226. J.T. says:

    I don’t like these “tribute to old rivals” games. It makes today’s versions of these teams proud of their history and want to bring the old rivalry back to life. On paper, the Habs should stomp the Hawks tonight. But if Khabibulin is hot and the Habs don’t skate hard and forecheck all game, it could be an undesirable result for us.

  227. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    Montreal never wins on the nights that they have tributes and such…………..

  228. Smart Dog says:

    I hope you’re wrong this time. If they can’t beat the Hawks, it’s a bad omen for showing that they’re serious about making hay and picking up points. The Hawks aren’t a great team and are full of injuries… have lost 5 straight. Hope we cream them!

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  229. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    The scary thing is:

    Chicago is due for a win. What a better way to snap thier loosing streak than a win against the Habs.

  230. Smart Dog says:

    Oy! Stop being a glass-is-half-empty kind of dog! lol

    The fact is that they’re losing because of a lot of injuries, so they may not really have the talent to stand up to a strong, focused team. We’re strong, whether we’re focused we’ll find out!

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  231. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Another home game with anothe tribute, I do agree these are not always in our favor, but I feel the team is a little upset after losing on Saturday (another home game loss), so they will ALL come out fighting hard. This game is already over, 5-3 MTL wins.

  232. krob1000 says:

    The Hawks are not a team that can be taken lightly. Their youthful makeup translates into a lot of energy and they seem to play to the level of competition. They have beat the Red Wings THREE times this year……that alone is scary. We are fortunate that they will be without Havlat and Toews but they still have plety of talent and a goalie who has been known to carry teams on his back. I am hoping we will bring our A game and win this one but I don’t want to assume anything. Sharp is dangerous and Kane is a budding superstar.

    It will be interesting to see how the team responds to Gainey and his assessment. He was very positive but there were definitely undertones that indicated he will not accept anything less than maximum effort and expects his players to take things personally on the ice. This next stretch of games could be very crucial as we approach the deadline in seven weeks. The Hawks can skate and they remind me of the Sabres of years past (just a bit younger) so anyone caught flatfooted or standing and playing a lazy trap will get burned. This team can skate with the Wings and the only thing that is keeping them from being a really strong team is their inexperience. They are my favourite to emerge as the future poswerhouse of the west along with Detroit for years to come.

    I can’t wait for tonight.

  233. 24 Cups says:

    I guess this is what happens when you stink for so many years – you keep getting to draft the top prospects year after year. Shades of Pittsburgh. Of course, that’s a luxury we could never afford – Habs fans (and the French media) would have a meltdown.
    I always thought the Hawks overpaid Havlat (6 mil) and Khabibulin (6.75 mil) but in light of recent signings who knows. If Havlat ever played 80 games the sky would be the limit. The kid I love the most is Toews. Not trying to overdo it or jinx him but he reminds me of a young Sakic or Yzerman. Time will tell.
    I realize what you and some other posters have said about being cautious over tonight’s game but I still feel anything short of four points in the next 72 hours will be classified as failure.

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  234. coutNY says:

    True, true, very true… but how are we going to keep the “the ones we can do without” from getting healthy is the question now? LOL

  235. J.T. says:

    Psstt…I know a guy…

  236. krob1000 says:

    We still have room until O’Byrne gets back so guys can travel and watch games from the pressbox. This will create a healthy competition and ensure that we are getting the best effort possible in my opinion. I have no problem with either Smolinski or Brisebois getting another chance if someone slips up or lets up. Right now we have several interchangeable players in depth positions as far as talent goes. The only way for those guys to differentiate themselves from the other guys is to work harder. This is a perfect situation for us given the nature of their roles is to bring energy and play a checking style (not Brisebois but the forwards).

    Someone else is going to get hurt at some point and we are going to be thankful for our depth when it does. Some of the seasons that Habs fans lament over and say we were terrible we were actually decimated by injuries and if my memory serves me correctly we led the league two consecutive years in man games missed ( a couple years back).

  237. krob1000 says:

    Is he a friend of a friend of Tonya Harding??

  238. coutNY says:

    O’Byrne & Begin would be good interchangable players because they add something to the team, but Smolinski and Brreze-bye could actually deflate energy because there are players that are playing better in there given positions.

    It would be hard to sit out Smolinski for an extented period, given the money invested and vetran status, but would benching Chipchura or Lapierre be a good call… doubtful even to create competition.

    Breezer, should be given his walking papers or be moved… Streit and Gorges can better perform at his position. Streit has become the PP point guy and S. Kostitysn, it seems, is being groomed for the second line PP point man with Hammer. Gorges also could play that position given the opportunity. Gorges seems very simlar to Breezer, but a younger version and full of energy. All at better prices and future potential.

    We can’t keep everyone on the roster can we? We’d have to build a bigger press box!

  239. krob1000 says:

    We will keep our 23 man limit I would assume. Smolinski and Brisebois are not playing because Lapierre, Chipchura, Dandy and Gorges are all playing well. If one of them slips (and only then)will either of these guys get in the lineup (there are other guys vulnerable too….Kosto, Ryder, Dandy, Lats, Sergei K) but both Smoke and Brisebis will see ice again if we falter….eventually someone will. If we don’t see them in the lineup again it will be because we are now sitting alone in second place (points not seeding) comfortably and rolling.

  240. N.B.habs fan says:

    I agree on the comments we should start Priceso he can have a chance to prove him self,but if he loses it could really do allot of damage to him.I have faith in him but at this point in the game mabe he should go to the minors for a little while to get some work.We need to let Haliak come up for a while to let him get some time in the NHL. this is a must win tonight after that speach yesterday.GO HABS GO..

  241. JF says:

    I hope that losing on Saturday in a game they should have won, combined with the positives and the negative undertones in Gainey’s report will motivate the team to come out really hard and play a fast-skating, checking, puck-possesion game, the kind of game that, with good goaltending, we have a good chance of winning.

    About goaltending: Huet is definitely starting and I think it’s the right decision. I don’t think now is the time to give a kid who has not looked great for a few weeks a chance to redeem himself. Huet has been playing some of his best hockey lately and deserves to start. Price has struggled and has not looked sharp. He still has a lot to learn; I think that both he and the team would be better served by his spending a little time in Hamilton and playing a stretch of games there. Right now the Canadiens have to go with the goalie who will give them the best chance of winning. We’re in a tight race which will likely get tighter. We did OK in the in the first half, but could easily have about 6 points more if some of those overtime losses had been the victories they should have been. But in recent years we’ve done better in the first half than the second, so unless we can solve some of our problems, including our late-game woes, we could be on course to pick up fewer points than we will ultimately need. One of the RDS guys predicted 37 points for this half; I can’t believe it’ll be as few as that, but we’re going to need every point we can get. Now is not the time to start a goaltender who is struggling, even if his name is Carey Price.

  242. krob1000 says:

    I wonder if he is one of the same guys who predicted we would finish 30th place this years.

    Making predictions like that is really wstupid and I am a dummy so I am going to predict that we get between 45-50 points. I just looked at the schedule and this can be a great month for us. WE have ten games remaining in January and the only two that I think our chances of winning are less than losing are in New York and in New Jersey. I know this means nothing but I would figure we should get points in at least seven of these games. I expect somewhere around 13 or 14 points for this month.

    In February we play 14 games and in my conservative (I hope) estimate I said we only get 15 points that month. We play the Senators, Rangers and Flyers all twice each in February along with a road game in Buffalo and a two game trip to Florida that will be huge for us. They usually give us trouble (tampa and Florida) but I am hoping we can bring some points back this time around. Still I conservatively estimated 15 points which I believe is very achievable as I actually expect more.

    March is also a 14 game month. Senators and Devils twice each although Ottawa is in Montreal both times (eventually we will get better at home…right?). The key to this month is going to be a four game road trip to California that used to be far scarier than it is now. I am not saying to take any of those teams lightly but only San Jose is a game that I would say we should be an underdog in with Anaheim probably being considered an even matchup in their rink. Phoenix and L.A. will be must wins. I estimated that we also get 15 points in this month (again hoping I am underestmating).

    In April we have three games ….the Sens (probably a loss in Ottawa), the lEafs and Sabres at home to wrap up the season. IF we manage four points out of these three that brings us to a grand total of 47 points that we should be able to attain. In reality I think we can get more than this but 37 points is a very gloomy forecast and looking at the schedule I just can’t see it unless several wheels fall off the bus at once.

  243. krob1000 says:

    I think Toews and Richards are going to be the best two way guys around for years to come and they will be compared to Sakic and Yzerman. They are both class acts and very cerebral. Neither backs away from traffic and each plays with an evident desire to succeed. They both see the ice extremely well and can skate. Richards will be the more physical of the two but I can’t wait to see them both wearing Team Canada Jerseys with Crosby, Lecavelier, Spezza, etc.

  244. 24 Cups says:

    We could have drafted Richards instead of Andrei K. or Getzlaf – JUST KIDDING Captain Cournoyer!!!

    It’s a bit of a surprise that Richards pushed ahead of Carter so early in their careers (in fairness, Carter has been hurt a few times) but the real question in Philly is after drafting these two young studs why did Holmgren feel it was necessary to break the bank (long term as well) for a guy like Briere? Heck, Richards will probably be past Briere by next year.

    In my dreams, I would love for Montreal to have a young franchise player like Toews, Getzlaf, Richards, Stastny, Malkin, or Spezza. Alas, we never draft that high to snag one. All the more reason to handle Price with care and have him mature at a sensible rate of development.

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  245. krob1000 says:

    Plus minus needs to be fine tuned…why are five guys held accountable for one giveaway. Unless the figures are extreme one way or another they don’t mean squat. They need to refine that stat and maybe look at assigning more blame to the responsible parties and factor inthings such as matchups. My personal preference would be to just get rid of the useless stat completely. What about the guys who play against the other teams top line….or guys who jump on or off the ice and get burned because the other guys who were on were tired or lazy and didn’t get off the ice. The stat is too arbitrary.

  246. Smart Dog says:

    Hey.. I think you’re right. “C” is for Chipchura. That’s the only way that could make sense.

    Chipchura by the way is a -1… Slowinski and Streit (who I still don’t like even though I think Pierre McGuire wants to have his love-child… must be the pinch) are -7.

    Others lower in plus-minus than Chips – and don’t forget Chipchura plays against the opposing teams best and has had his line shuffled more than a deck in a marathon poker game – are Lats, Gorges, O’Byrne, Kostopoulos, Breezer, Ryder, Grabovski.. and the team leader, Dandenault at -9.

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  247. RH says:

    I’m actually now convinced that Bob Gainey woke up one morning and thought to himself, ” you know, I’d better send Chips and Price down to Hamilton so RH can get his lazy ass out there to get autographs from these kids before they become stars!”

    Regarding Streit, I still think he’s a solid depth guy. I’m still not convinced that he’s an everyday player, but he can handle himself at both the forward and defensive positions. I’d be inclined to keep him on staff until the young blood have developed their game.

  248. 24 Cups says:

    I’ve been wondering the same thing about Streit. He’s a great addition to the powerplay but in the grand scheme of things is an average defenseman and fourth line forward. I realize it’s only his 3rd year in the NHL but he is 30 years old so I’m not sure how much upside there is with this guy. He can come back next year but please don’t ask for a ton of money. I’d also only resign him for a year.

    You know if we are really honest with ourselves, we have to admit that the Habs only have three really good defensemen at this point in time. Until all the kids fully develop we will have to live with this fact. We desperately need someone to be a solid 4th defensman who can log a lot of minutes and clear the front of the net. When does O’Byrne come back?

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  249. coutNY says:

    I think you guys are crazy. Streit is one of the most valuable players on the team… and I think he is definatly an everyday player. He is playing at $600 the last couple of years, moved back and forth from the Blue-line to forward with no complaints. He works and creates many opportunities night after night. Did you notice in overtime 4-4 he was moved back to D, to give us an offensive tilt. Yes he is a utility man and it these type of players that will add depth playoff situations. I would only dream we could resign him on the cheap…

    With that said another really great aspect is that a lot of teams are looking for a puck moving Defensman… but we’d be crazy to deal him in my opinion.

    The +/- is not everything guys, most of his points are from the PP which coming from the best in the league and not figuring into the +/- has to count for something.

  250. Smart Dog says:

    You’re right the plus-minus is only part of the picture… Power play points are important too. But plus-minus IS an important part (play 5-on-5) and if you look at the team, most of the best guys are in the plus or around zero. You look at the guys at the bottom and it’s most of the guys we gripe about.
    Streit may be able to do two things… the question is, does he do either really well?

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    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  251. 24 Cups says:

    Mike Boone just stated that we should resign him for 3 years so there is obviously a variety of opinion on this guy and his true value and future upside.

    The Original 24 Cups

  252. krob1000 says:

    No upside…what you see is probably what you get for three years. Some games he invisible others he looks like an all star. His versatility is a great asset and he has been affordable. He is not physically imposing but not a complete pushover. He is good enough to play for any team in the league right now but you are right about him peaking now. I think he can play this way for at least two or three more years and I questioned him early in the year just like I did last year and both times I was admittedly wrong. He has hands and is smart. He goes to the net, can play defensively as a forward, he moves the puck….his only weakness is exposed as a defenseman as he isn’t strong enough to fend of the power forwards around the league…..most depth defensmen can’t that’s why they are depth d-men. His versatility in combination with his good qualities easily make him an asset to anyone. The cost …well Bob will have to figure out what he is worth but it is definitely more than 600 k/season.

  253. Sakus Evil Twin says:

    I agree that McGuire was gushing a little too much over him last night, but Mark Streit has been Mr consitency for the most part this season and in the mix whether pinching forward as a defenceman or forechecking as a forward.

    True, he doesn’t make most stand up in their seats like a LaFleur or Kovalev, but he is underated as that player who gets the job done when our ‘stars’ decide not to show up.

    He’s up there for my MVP so far this season. The Habs line up would suffer without him.

  254. Smart Dog says:

    Um, except that puts him last of all players on the first PP unit. Think about it – it’s the PP that he gets his points which mostly come from other players, though he has a good shot… I don’t argue with that. Which is why his play 5-on-5 is important to look at too. And that ain’t so great.

    ________________________________________________________________
    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  255. coutNY says:

    He needs to get on the ‘Body by Higgins’ workout tapes to beef up next season… I hear they’ll be out sometime in the spring!LOL

  256. coutNY says:

    #6 in over all team points and plays on the NHL’s top PP unit… Seems to be doing something well to me.

  257. 24 Cups says:

    Great point on plus/minus.

    The Original 24 Cups

  258. JF says:

    I agree that the RDS forecast is too pessimistic; however, it probably allows for some kind of slump, which usually happens to us early in the second half. I’m hoping it won’t this year; that the solutions we’ve found to some of our problems will stick and that we can improve in the areas that are still problematic – faceoffs, penalty-killing and late-game defensive play. This should be possible, barring injuries to key players. If so, then your forecast seems fairly realistic, even as you say a little conservative; but better that than wildly over-optimistic. 47 points should see us squeeze into the playoffs; we’re capable of doing more, but whether we will is another question…

  259. 24 Cups says:

    I think it’s also fair to throw in the parity issue kRob. You don’t want to depend on the misfortune of others but with the exception of Tampa, you basically have 11 teams fighting for 5 playoff spots. (it will be interesting to see how the Lousy Leafs do on their west coast road trip).

    The Original 24 Cups

  260. Habster101 says:

    Habs-Positive!!
    you are absolutely right…first of all…the lines did not need to be changed….ya we got the two points but why change a perfect chemistry…

    Streit was missing alll over the place tonight…get back on defense…

    Brisbois? no comment, luckily he scored but still has no power/toughness…

    and the lack of response to our captain getting taken out…what a shame…

    and yes KOSTOP., what are you here for? you were not brought here to score goals, if your not going to play tough and stick up for our guys then get off the ice.,

    I agree with H-P

    on the other end…

    Gorges is becoming a stronghold back there…he hits, he moves the puck away, he sacrifices himself…unlike Brisebois by far who shakes with fear when he has to go into the corner…

    and like I said earlier….HUET is our no.1 goalie…

    Price will be in the future but not yet…

    its nice to come out with the overtime win at home this time for a change…

    excellent game!!

    and the leafs play Anaheim tommorow?? LOL they will get anialated, and I hope Toskashits is in net too…
    their saviour… LOL

  261. nightmare_49 says:

    101 – Where were you when KOSTOP saved the goal when Tommy Kane deked Huet and had the open net , i quess you were posting another negative post when it happened , have fun with your agenda.

  262. Habster101 says:

    opps!! I mean Habs-Professor has a great point!!!

  263. Proudones says:

    Are you sure you were watching the same game?

  264. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    Would it freakin kill Carbo to put Ryder on the powerplay?

    I’d love to see a new coach come next season…..

  265. Bill H says:

    Lard tunderin jee-sus b’y, wud ya stap yur gripin’.

  266. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Dru,It was a long,long time ago…but the best hipcheck I witnessed was when Larry Robinson took out Bobby Orr…that twas the one that changed the game of pro hockey for awhile and pretty well finnish Orr’s career.

  267. 24 Cups says:

    Another great clean, open ice hit on Orr was by Pat Quinn. Almost caused a riot.

    The Original 24 Cups

  268. Bouleau noir says:

    It was nice to have Chicago in the building and to play against a different team than the usual ones,.. scoring opportunitys and face pace where at the rendez-vous for both side, cant complained about that.

    The win was great and to think that we earned 10 points out of our last possible 12 is very encouraging,… this very positive strech started when Carbo came up with the 3 offensive lines…. lines that many on this site objected against….. little did they know about what was going to follow and specially about how it would be acheived…. like scoring 27 goals in the following 6 games for a scoring average of 4.5 goal a game… quite a difference over our 2.6 goals we averaged up until the thirty-second game point were I had last noticed our stat.

    So are we a different team than we were ? I think we are because the scoring hability of our team has increased over what it was earlier…. we now have an offensive ace in our game that was missing before and we will win some games which we wouln’t have before,… but more than just additional scoring,.. having 3 lines with similard agenda will simplified our overall game and that should increases the team cohesiveness beetwen defence and forwards… additional gains could also be derived from having STABLE lines…. which we never really had in the first half.

    I think the team will now average around 3.5 goals a game and will play a better team game than they have done in the first half,… there is reason to believe that this team will deliver some good hochey to be watched for their fans in the second half.

  269. LTHF says:

    Im totally at a lost to why Carbo is coming with the line combos on the PP. How desperate can a team be when they use Brisbois on the PP. I guess Ryder”s future in Montreal is getting accented more and more, how can a player produce with the ice time he is getting, 3:33 in the 2nd period and no PP ice time, guess as the TSN reporters said prior to the game “Ryder has to get out of Montreal”— unfortunately!

  270. idle says:

    Using Brisebois on the power play seemed to work didn’t it? Or did you not cheer for that particular goal?

  271. G-Man says:

    Loved seeing those faces again. Hull, Tony O, Makita. Let’s face it folks, the old NHL with less teams was longer on grit. Sure, some of the old guys couldn’t compete today because of better training and conditioning, but most were tough enough to flatten most of these wannabe tough guys these days. Only the Habs show the NHL how to celebrate 100 years. Maybe, the NHL will get it right a few years from now, in either 2015/2016 or 2016/2017.

    Decent win, but the Habs gave up a point they shouldn’t have. Soft goals and the Breezer on the ice at even strength with Koivu should never happen. He’s too much of a softie to defend anyone, let alone the captain. I still remember him earlier this season tugging weakly on the sweater of the ‘Canes Staal when the guy had crashed into Huet and landed on top of him. A proper D-man would have at least tried to punch Staal’s lights out, but not the Breezer. Tug, tug.

    Gilbert

  272. LTHF says:

    Samsonov over 20 mins ice time tonight against Bos

  273. Smart Dog says:

    The Morning After

    Good Morning Habs Comrades! A glorious win last night.

    Some reflections on our current status:

    1. We don’t stink! In fact, most of the last 8 or 10 games we’ve been pretty DARN GOOD as a team…DARN GOOD! As Carey Price, riding in his pick-up might say – “Yeehaw!” Great to see, the team seems strong… it’s been a looonggg time!
    2. We are pulling ahead of the pack. Knock a whole LOT of WOOD. If Brisebois was here I would knock his head.
    3. Chips. Where the hell is Chips? If someone knows him or knows someone who knows him, make sure he sees that WE ALL know he should be up with the bigs. Nice to see that our great defensive forwards get respect here (cough-Johnson-cough…cough-Bonk-cough). I can’t help but say it. It bothers me that he was sent down after some French rag-writer said he was a “C”. Unless C is for Captain, that’s sheer BS. Of course the same guy said Breezer was a B. Unless B is for Bum….
    4. Goalies, get your goalies here! Should be exciting to see which of our goalies goes elsewhere. All I can say is I hope it’s not the wrong one. And a little wisdom… goalies are quirky. Keep looking at the stats, and keep the faith. Ours our all good – not as consistant as we would hope, but they stop a lot of rubber so quit yer whining!
    5.The Laffs. The DO stink. And well… they make me laugh..!! hahahahahhahaha. I asked “God please make my enemies ridiculous. And he did.” I forget where that quote comes from, but it must have been written in blue and white.

    Have a great day Habs fans! Woof! Woof!

    ________________________________________________________________
    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  274. RH says:

    I think the reporter was trying to say that B is for Brisebois, but it got lost in the translation.

  275. T-roy West says:

    I know Timo, it sucks that Chips got send down. I only hope that he comes back soon and that somehow it was worth it.

  276. Gooner says:

    Timo, It seems to me that you are always whining unless things are like you think they should be. you are like a big kid. Sure huet let in a soft goal but the third was bribois fault for not taking his man . Huet also made a few stellar saves so quit your whinning. Be happy we won the game

  277. T-roy West says:

    On the third goal ” The Breezer ” passed the puck out in front of the net right to the other team and they score. How many times does he have to do that before he gets into trouble. He must be favored by the coaches for sure!

  278. RH says:

    Andre Ringuette always has great shots of the game.

  279. Ed says:

    If everybody stopped griping on here, there would be very comments to read.

  280. NEWFOUNDLAND DOG says:

    Hey Habs Fans. Don’t get your Knickers in a knot …..

    We are all Habs fans.

    We are all entitled to our own opinions even though everyone may not agree with all of them.

    I’m not here to stir the pot or offend anyone, just here to voice my comments.

    A great debate never hurt anyone.

    I have no ill feeling towards any Habs Fan Ok.

    Peace and Love to you all…

  281. FeverBoy says:

    was lucky enough to go the game last night and was not dissapointed. Lots of crazy energy in the building at times last night, great ceremony, highscoring game and expensive beer. so my quick notes, Markov really is amazing, Komisarek is a beast, and Kane is really small but really good………but whats up with the advertisement and seizure lights during every pause, i realise its all part of the buisness, but the habs home has become very comercial and its kind of annoying and at the same time sad….no complaints though, ill support the cause and eat POM bread for the rest of my life while playing my playstation, which is connected to the internet by the beavers if itll win the Habs a cup….go habs

  282. krob1000 says:

    Anyone notice how off track Mcguire was last night. I could have sworn he was watching a different game. In the pregame he commented on Andrei Kostitsyn’s hot streak and said it helps that he plays with Koivu…huh? Then he was talking about Kovalev like he was having some great game. I think the world of Kovy and he played a decent game but it was just that decent. Mcguire should see him when he is actually on.

    I did like the discussion where Barnaby acknowledged the impact of the boos from your home team crowd on the players and he directly attributed our home difficulties and goaltender issues at home to that. Most of us know it on here but it was nice to hear it from a player. The entire panel seemed to agree and they also mentioned everyone of our so called crazy possibilities about showcasing Halak, Price being a short term decision, etc.

  283. Bill H says:

    I believe he also mentioned that opposing teams also come into Montreal on an adrenaline high and get really pumped for the Canadiens because of the atmosphere in the building. I agree that booing takes its toll on the players and is probably partly responsible for our horrible record when behind at the end of 1st or 2nd period. Coming from behind is all the more difficult when the other team is pumped for the game. Too bad the booing (not to mention all the negative posts on this board) is not something that is likely to change any time soon.

  284. 24 Cups says:

    Hey kRob – I like Maguire but I think he suffers from two problems. One he feels he must comment at almost every break in the play and secondly, he speaks too quickly with way too much emotion. He could do more by doing less. (of course some may see these as strengths) He also tries to give the same amount of important and urgency to every one of his comments – which just isn’t possible. He could take a few tips from Harry Neale on the subtleties of doing colour commentary. Having said all of that, I still think that Maguire, along with Mackenzie, are two of the best hockey people on TV.

    In a related matter, http://www.thestar.com/sports/ had a feature article on what the Lousy Leafs might possibly get in a trade for Sundin. (shades of this site’s posters and Ovechkin, Vinny, and Richards;-) Anyway, most of the proposed deals were realistic and made sense, they all had some plausibility to them. That is until you got to Glen Healy’s proposed trade. It should become very interesting if he ever becomes GM of the Lousy Leafs.

    The Original 24 Cups

  285. krob1000 says:

    It finally came to me last night why Brisebois giveaways numbers are so high after watching him give a puck away and get ripped on here for it. He tries to make the big outlet passes so obviouslyhe is going to have some of these intercepted. It is effectively the same as dumping the puck up the boards only better because it at least gives us an opportunity to mae something of it. If you dump the puck off the glass and it goes to the other team in the neutral zone it is not a giveaway but if you try and make a long pass and it is picked off in the neutral zone it is dubbed a giveaway from what I can gather based on last nights stats……that would explain it.

    I have noticed Brisebois give some pucks away this year but I was shocked yesterday when I saw him giving one a game away. Markov was the only other Hab giving more than one per game away…that should have been enough to clue me in but it wasn’t until last night that I caught it. It is lioke a quarterback who throws longer passes who will obviously have a lesser completion percentage. The passes may be turnovers but they are the same as dump outs as far as results go and they only really affect him negatively on a personal level in the statistics world.

  286. coutNY says:

    It was not Breezer’s turnovers that pissed people off last night. It was him standing behind forward in front of the net spacing out until the guy pounced on a rebound to bury the go-ahead goal… Weak play infront of the net is inexcusable in this stage of his career. The guy is known for this and with age seems to have lost yet another step in his game. I would not miss him a bit!

  287. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    Gorges will sacrifice his body to make a play.
    Brisebrois will not.

    Gorges fought McGratton…Brisbrois would have called for his mommy…

    that is the bases of their games…you can extrapolate from there.
    ———
    1. In my picture you’ll find one of the keys to our success…
    2. Your not a Hab fan till you watch & UNDERSTAND “The Rocket”
    3. Delenda Est Torontium….

  288. idle says:

    Seriously man, watch an NHL game, won’t even have to be a Habs game, just any NHL game. Players miss passes all the time. It is a high speed game and an opening that you see can close in an instant. If you sit there and watch one player just waiting to see a bad pass so you can come on here and whine about it then you are missing out on the enjoyment of the game.

  289. T-roy West says:

    It’s 5:32 of the third and Breezer just coughed up the puck again. Why does he always pass up the middle and not off the glass. If that was anyone else they would get yelled at. Breezer sucks!

  290. Smart Dog says:

    Thanks for the article on Sundin. Interesting! True to form Milbury was the one that would let him go the cheapest! LOL.

    I love this thought from one of the fans:

    Sacrificing the team’s all time scoring leader and abandoning all hopes of a playoff run seem a bit premature for a team still in the middle of the standings. There’s really no valid reason to write this season off yet.
    Eric Phillion, Corunna, Ont.

    Why does it feel so good knowing the Leaf fans are so blind! We can still do iiiittttt…..!!!!! LOL

    Re. Maguire. He also loves Mark Streit. I mean LOVES. Kooky. Maybe he just loves everything, like a boy scout or a big brother. Hey, that was a GREAT shot at the net – it was so close to actually coming near the net that the goalie almost had to move for it. Good shot!!!

    ________________________________________________________________
    Be happy! At least the FUTURE looks bright!
    Plekanec, Higgins, Komi, Chips, Lapierre, O’Byrne, K1 &K2, Price

  291. krob1000 says:

    Healy is a moron…..the only pucks he ever stopped hit him in the head and now we are seeing the long term effects. Many of thsoe guys are overestimating Sundin’s value if he is a rent a player Muickler, Milbury and Bill Watters make sense and are reasonable. If the intent is to sign Sundin and there is commitment shown or a deal done before then a little more could be asked for but some of those guys are so far from reality (you have to be to be a Leafs fan). We should all pray daily that Healy becomes the GM for the Leafs.

  292. 24 Cups says:

    Hey Smart Dog – I wonder how many points the Lousy Leafs would have if they had faced the regular goaltender of the opposing team? I don’t have a stat for you but they have faced the backup goalie quite a few times this year. That may also be an indicator of how the other teams view the Leafs.

    The Original 24 Cups

  293. idle says:

    The thing that I don’t like about Maguire is how he gets on to one or two subjects during the game and just beats them to death. Like he will make an observation in the first period and then spend the rest of the game trying to convince you he is right by bringing it up constantly and showing every example he can find of it.

    He is also too extreme on people if he finds a mistake (would fit in well here on this site) and too over the top with his compliments (maybe he wouldn’t fit in too well here afterall)

  294. WindsorHab-10 says:

    I know he’s in love with Mark Streit because whenever the Habs are on tsn, he always has something positive to say about him.

  295. sag says:

    You are as drunk as Harry. You think a guy who makes Dolly Parton Jokes on national tv is someone that should be handing out advice?? McGuire may be a loud mouth and overstate everything, but at least he knows hockey and shows up to work sober!

  296. nightmare_49 says:

    One thing that really bugs me with Pierre and it’s happen a few games that Carbo throws out a different line and Pierre starts raving about how fast Carbo’s adjusting to the Nhl etc..It always happens after a powerplay and all Carbo is doing is putting out the forwards he didn’t use on the powerplay until he can get the lines back to normal. Coming from someone who coached in the NHL this really puzzles me.

  297. T-roy West says:

    Montreal was able to score the winning goal because Latendresse was able to go to the net because Streit was on the ice playing defence!!!

  298. idle says:

    Brisebois scored a power play goal. Georges would not have. Brisebois made some nice outlet passes. Georges would not have.

    You get some good and some bad with each player.

  299. Bill H says:

    Nice pass Streit to Lapierre. Good manuevering by Lapierre to get in position and then make the pass to Latendresse. Nice finish by Gui. Not exactly a flawless victory, but an exciting game to watch and 2 points nonetheless.

  300. 24 Cups says:

    I agree Bill. Our goalie was shaky and we had to go into overtime but we still came away with two points. I realize it was against a middle of the pack team (and their backup goalie) that has injuries and is on a losing streak but we kept pace in our conference standings and gave the overtime point to a team in the other conference. It was a great third period and overtime session in terms of pure entertainment. I’ll take it.

    The Original 24 Cups

  301. RudeMood19 says:

    Good win tonight, although we should have won the game earlier on.

  302. krob1000 says:

    Even we are a non playoff team teams treat us like the defending Stanley Cup champs and it was a good point they made. That was also nice to hear from a player. Barnaby was a tool on the ice but that was his job (same as PJ Stock) but he is actually a pretty intelligent guy and I like listening to what he has to say. After the game I saw the Bob MCkown sports show and they had Brian Burke on there and I am always amazed at how right that guy sounds regardless of the topic. To me he is the smartest man in hockey right now.

  303. Habster101 says:

    Ya that was great but any player skating through the ice at that moment would have been able to clear the puck…it was Kostop…good for him…where is he when are players are getting thrown around?
    answer me that.

  304. nightmare_49 says:

    First of all i didn’t see players thrown around and secondly Tommy K. wasn’t signed as a goon but as an energy player with grit who can win the battles on the boards and be responsible defensively. Carbo has stated that he didn’t want a goon and that it was a team concept so why blame Tommy K. unless Dandy (who sat) is part of your agenda. Chicago this year has the reputation of rumbling (fighting) with their 4th line as they normally play three lines and like to disturb any team that goes with four lines to equal the equation so why play into their hands. I hope that answers your question.


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