Game 17: Habs calm Hurricanes, Markov hurt

Canadiens’ Andrei Markov is crumpled against the boards late in Saturday’s game.
John Kenney, The Gazette

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AUDIO: Carey Price | Tomas Plekanec | Brian Gionta | Max Lapierre | Mathieu Darche | Jacques Martin (nearly inaudible, sorry)

• At a Glance: The Canadiens capped off what was billed as a tough week with their third-straight victory on Saturday night, defeating the Carolina Hurricanes 7-2 on Saturday night. Carey Price made 28 saves for his 10th win of the season, already closing in on the total of 13 he won all of last season. The Canadiens jumped out to a 2-0 lead in the first period thanks to goals by Tomas Plekanec and Michael Cammalleri. The Hurricanes tied the game 2-2 in the second period when Anton Babchuk scored a power-play goal 9:08 into the period. Former Hab Tom Kostopoulos scored two minutes later with a wrist shot over Price’s shoulder. But the Canadiens stormed right back, scoring three times before the period with Brian Gionta scoring his fourth of the season with a wrist shot over Cam Ward’s shoulder. Maxim Lapierre made it 4-2 when he went it alone, spun in front of Ward and slid the puck into the open side of the net. That goal marked the end of Ward’s night, replaced by Justin Peters, who was promptly beaten by Benoit Pouliot made it 5-2 with a power-play goal with less than two minutes to play. With about five minutes to go in the third period, Andrei Markov crumpled to the ice after what appeared to be a knee-on-knee hit by Eric Staal. Markov was unable to put any weight on his right knee walking off the ice, and he was seen punching the boards while lying on the ice, which could be a sign Markov knew something was wrong. Andrei Kostitsyn scored his seventh of the season while the Canadiens enjoyed a two-man advantage late in the game, making it 6-2, while Mathieu Darche made it 7-2 while Carolina was still killing off the second penalty. Montreal finished 3-for-6 on the power play and the Hurricanes have allowed 15 goals in their last two games.

• Key Moments: MIdway through the third period, Price made what could be his best save of the season when he moved across his crease to absolutely rob Chad Larose of a sure goal with a great glove save.

• What It Means: The third-straight win improves Montreal’s record to 11-5-1 for 23 points and first place in the Northeast Division.

• What’s Next: The Canadiens continue their four-game homestand with visits from the Philadelphia Flyers, Nashville Predators and Toronto Maple Leafs with games on Tuesday, Thursday and next Saturday.


  1. Former Jets Fan says:

    Boone – Carey has 6, not 16 career shutouts in the regular season.

  2. HFX-HabFan says:

    So, I’ve been away all day…did anything go down over the noontime hour at Atwater Park?

  3. kempie says:

    copied from the game blog:


    I don’t usually predict at game time like this but the reverse-jinx seems to have some power so here’s what I think. Carolina is one of those teams that makes my stomach feel funny. We should beat them, I don’t like them, classic Montreal goalie psych out stuff going on. I said before this week started that I wouldn’t be surprised if they beat Vancouver, Boston and lose an ugly one to Carolina. 

  4. christophor says:

    i’m trying to remember, other than the tampa game, has price given up a late goal?

  5. WestHab says:

    What if he never returns? He just gets away with it?

  6. WestHab says:

    I just meant your avater is more photogenic than a Sutter.

  7. db says:

    Once he’s back in the league he’ll serve that suspension. 

    I figure it’s only fair you serve the suspension in the league you earned it.

  8. ZepFan2 says:


    I was just kidding around. Couldn’t help myself. lol


    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  9. dre1744 says:

    That could be worth the price of going!!!!!

  10. WestHab says:

    yes he’s a flames Fan. like the avater and I’m a ZEP fan too.

  11. dre1744 says:

    I agree they single handidly made the Calgary Flames SUCK!!!!!!

  12. Anonymous says:

    Stop living in the past.

  13. dre1744 says:

    NHL doesn’t have too honor the AHL suspension so Kadri is good too goo!!!!!!!!

  14. Habhopeful says:

    She’s a classic case of butter face…She’s got a smokin body.., everything is hot…But’ter face…


    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!” ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  15. ZepFan2 says:

    Umm, ‘scuse me!?

    By “flaming son”, you do mean he’s a Flames fan, right? 😉


    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  16. WestHab says:

    be nice to a flames or stamp season tix holder. They get first pick. I don’t think there are any regular tix available yet. Be carefull of the websites that offer tix. I think they are scalper sites. I saw one where the worst tix started at $413.00. I think there are some scams out there.

  17. ZepFan2 says:

    Well, look on the bright side. She has a smokin’ body.

    Can’t help her with her obvious bad taste in music though. lol


    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  18. andrewberkshire says:

    He may have.

  19. WestHab says:

    You mean we’d get to meet Timo in real time!?

  20. gumper says:

    There was something fishy about it alright;)

  21. HabFab says:

    Huh, were did you get that photo of my ex????

    And her being a Deep Purple fan!

  22. WestHab says:

    I’d love that but I have have to drag my flaming son!

  23. habstrinifan says:

    Shame! Only word for it! Surprised he didnt have a ‘buddy system’ from the team.. may have kept it from happening.


    Cabbie may be looking at some sort of compensation.

  24. WestHab says:

    The Sutters don’t look good anytime.

  25. WestHab says:

    I’m only guessing but the only fair thing to do is only allow the call up after the 2 AHL games have been served.

  26. Thomas says:

    ya, me too, i’m in Calgary also…still trying to get tickets also!

  27. habs001 says:

    if the nets are soccer size tonight than pyatt has a chance to score…

  28. bertuzzisucks says:

    If San Jose want an experienced d-man we have Spacek that can fill the void. We don’t even want anything in return!

  29. ZepFan2 says:

    To be fair, we don’t see the face.

    For all we know, she looks like this…Horse’s ass


    “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”

    ~Serge Savard~

  30. WestHab says:

    Probably a case of a young guy knocking down shooters without any respect for what that can do to your mind. Stupid. And another reason why you never ask how your cabbie’s day is going unless you have 60 miles to kill.

  31. CharlottetownHabbies says:

    Lost my voice, put a hole in my wall and my wife almost left me over that “missed call”.  Kind of a risky way for Bettman to prop up a fringe market….

  32. Dintrox says:

    Kadri was suspended by the AHL for 2 games. Does that affect his call up to the laffs?

    December 4, 2009 – Elmer Lach’s jersey took its rightful place with the Rocket’s in the rafters.

  33. Dintrox says:

    You had to remind me. No penalty! that was complete carp.

    December 4, 2009 – Elmer Lach’s jersey took its rightful place with the Rocket’s in the rafters.

  34. Say Ash says:

    Hearing that made me Spacek a little.

  35. N.B.habs fan says:

    Dosen’t make the Sutter familly look to good right now.

  36. HabFab says:

    Ian, old bud! Better ease up on that pain medication. That is definitely not a horse’s ass…just saying!

  37. TomNickle says:

    You think he signed that contract with the intention of playing the full term?

  38. TomNickle says:

    Yeah.  I’ve read that section of the CBA and there, to my knowledge is no clause saying a player who signed his contract after the age of 35 cannot be place on LTIR.  In Pronger’s case, the Flyers would be granted the salary differential of Prongers’ against the the remaining cap room they have.

    So his replacement could earn up to $3.5 million annually I believe.

  39. andrewberkshire says:

    I don’t think Pronger would play ball with that, he’s a douche and I hate him, but he has way too much pride to do something like that.

  40. TomNickle says:

    Players over 35 years old can’t be put on LTIR?

    I think you’re mistaken.

  41. SeriousFan09 says:

    Over-35 means salaries can’t go off the cap regardless of where or if the player is playing going by the CBA.  They’re stuck with Pronger no matter what.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  42. TomNickle says:

    Paul Maurice teams cheat offensively.  They rarely have the discipline to keep a high man in the offensive zone and like to apply a two man forecheck in transition.

    If our defensemen are sharp and are forwards have good timing, we should pot a couple off the rush tonight.

    Look for Gionta and Plekanec, maybe even a guy like Pyatt or Pouliot to get some gifts.

  43. TomNickle says:

    That won’t happen Robert.

    Rathje and Hatcher played ball(LTIR), Pronger may suffer that fate too.

    Still burns my ass that the Flyers can get away with it but the Devils can’t.

    Then again, people can walk into the Capitals dressing room and hand out steroids like skittles without consequence, shouldn’t expect much.


  44. SeriousFan09 says:

    Eff Justin Williams for putting a stick in Koivu’s eye, we would have won that series with him.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  45. Fant-HAB-ulous says:

    wow. The taxi industry and the NHL don’t seem to mix very well! 

  46. SeriousFan09 says:

    No idea, but something’s going to have to give next season. Let them cap themselves out I say and hope Pronger has to retire in the next couple years so that over-35 contract is slapping them in the face until 2017.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  47. Say Ash says:

    Friggin’ Cam Ward! We were two up on Gerber, and then…Cam Ward. Arrhhh!!

  48. habaddict_andy says:

    Gomez on fire…Too funny.


    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  49. andrewberkshire says:

    I think the most difficult thing for the flyers will be, who on that team would you honestly even want to give up? Briere maybe, but he’s not really tradeable with that contract. Everyone else on big salaries is a damn good player, tough to trade them for prospects and picks. But they only have 1.5 million in space next season with 18 players signed. Very tough situation as far as the cap is concerned.

  50. TomNickle says:

    Good question.  Not easy to move a lot of the contracts they have.

    My guess is that they take a run at the cup and trade Pronger if they lose.  If they win, he’ll develop a mysterious injury or opt for surgery that could wait for another 10 years and they’ll put him on LTIR until his contract expires ala Rathje and Hatcher.  But that wasn’t blatant cap circumvention.

  51. andrewberkshire says:

    So… Who are the Flyers gonna trade to fit all these guys in?

  52. W35T5ID3 says:

    F the Canes.We’re gonna whoop them tonight.Just like we did the nucks and the bruins.Didnt the Canes get wallopped like 8-1 by the flyers at home in their last game???Yah,they’ll get shallacked again tonight by our boys.Gomez is on a 1 gm goal scoring streak and he’s on  fire !!!!

  53. Ian Cobb says:

    Thats a horses ass!

  54. Keith says:

    Cause it’s the laffs. They always get preferential treatment, or so it would seem.

  55. g says:

    I agree-but he’ll only be 36ish at the end

    “Long before I ever wore the jersey, I wore the jersey.” Dryden

  56. TomNickle says:

    If the current CBA stays in place the cap will go up again and they’ll get out of the hot water there.  Coburn can be moved and Leighton could be demoted to free up space this season if they need it.

    They are going to have to acquire some picks and prospects soon considering what they gave up for Pronger.  But they’re in no hurry with the core they have in place.  I pray every evening that nobody trades them a good young goalie.


  57. observer says:

    habs a better team if they show up but dont forget ward has a helluva record against montreal.

  58. observer says:

    or anyone – first you have to show up for the game and give 100% effort which this habs team is very well known to NOT do on many occasions.

  59. observer says:

    leafs  kadri called up to play for leafs tonight. today ahl suspended him an automatic 2 game suspension from something he did in his last game there BUT leafs and nhl are letting him play tonight. this is unbelievale.

  60. Chuck says:

    Habs are 7-0-0 when having one day off in between games.


    Centre Hice: New Canadiens rating systems

  61. notbigbird says:

    FYI: I’m not much into wearing logos but there are nice team sweaters at Giant Tiger (in Ontario only?) for $33.99 right now. When I say sweaters, that’s what I mean — real sweaters not game sweaters (or jerseys) for everyday wear. I got the away/white version but they had others too — along with Sens and Leafs stuff in the Ottawa area.

  62. TripleX says:

    Cap hit of 5.27 million.  Makes sense from that standpoint, hopefully Markov signs for a long term to reduce the hit.


    ‘Cogito ergo doleo’

  63. ProHabs says:

    Does Phillly ever run out of cap space.

  64. MTLForever says:

    ya, 11 years is too long.

  65. aemarchand11 says:

    11 Year contract for Carter. 5.75 Million/Yr..

    I hate these long contracts, because I like seeing teams with new players every… 6 years or so. :\

    Go Habs Go!

  66. dre1744 says:

    maybe someone can set up a calgary get together!!!!!!!  I’m down for going

  67. dasbooth says:

    A little off topic here, but I’m a HABS fan living in Calgary. Always jealous to miss the summits. What are the chances of a HIO get together during the Heritage classic 2011?

  68. nightmare_49 says:



       Teams Beginning To Think Trades

        by Bruce Rumours Garrioch.


       • Sharks GM Doug Wilson would never show signs of panic, but the word in NHL circles is he’s getting worried because San Jose hasn’t performed up to expectations. Sure, it’s early, but Wilson has been frantically combing around the NHL to find a veteran blueliner. The issue: “There are none,” said a league executive. The Sharks might be willing to deal D Niclas Wallin and D Kent Huskins.

       • While giving up a second-round draft pick was nothing at last year’s trade deadline, teams may think twice this season. The crop in the 2011 NHL entry draft is much deeper and that may give some GMs pause for thought when they look to make deals.


    via Bob McKenzie tweet,

    Jeff Carter has agreed to terms on an 11-year, $58 million contract extension with the Philadelphia Flyers. AAV of $5.27M.


  69. krob1000 says:

    way to go out on a limb

  70. showey47 says:

    We are 3-2 on saturday nights this year,both loses came on back to backs or 3 in 4 nights. But i know what you are saying,in previous seasons we seemed to play our worst games on saturday nights. I’d like to see last years records of saturday nights games and see if there is a difference between home games and road games with the friday night off. In other words,did having friday off and being able to go out in montreal friday night have a bigger effect then being off on friday and being on the road and staying in a hotel which usually comes with some sort of curfew(if there is one).

  71. dre1744 says:

    2 – 0  habs tonight  Carey will shine!!!!!!!!

  72. avatar_58 says:

    Time to beat Carolina. I’m tired of this team always winning

  73. dudurules says:

    Gunna be a typical Sat night game… 3-1 Carolina

  74. coachdoug says:

    Carolina will be beat tonight…two of the three stars in the victory will be Plek and Price…

    Go Habs Go!

    “Six more years…God Bless You Turtleneck Man!”

  75. MTLForever says:

    Have to play simple, Eric Staal always likes to burn us.

  76. samTHEman says:

    He can try. I’m confident Price will come out on top as usual.

  77. Storm Man says:

    5-3 Habs…. Ward has a little red light burn after the game.

  78. HNS says:

    Carolina goes down tonite.

  79. samTHEman says:

    OT win 3-2 Habs. I have a feeling cammi will have a great game with 2 goals.

  80. MTLForever says:

    Exactly. He’ll shut everyone down.

  81. rocketsglare says:

    Close game, but Habs win on late goal in regulation time. Price continues to impress.


    Go Habs Go!

  82. SmartDog says:

    Habs will walk away or the Canes will squeak out a win.  Sure hope it’s the former.


    Is the All-Star Game a Joke? Consider that Price isn’t there and Fleury is:
    Fleury’s STATS: |win%: .25|save%: .860|goals/game: 3.23|. In six seasons Fleury has only ONCE had a save % over .912. If he’s an all-star my ass is a hovercraft.

  83. MTLForever says:

    the all star list is a joke!

  84. Ian Cobb says:

    We are never going to win in a walk this year. All 1 goal games most of the year. The difference this year is going to be that we are coming out on top a heck of a lot more than the other way around. And we will be in many less 3 point games this year, giving us separation in the standings.

    We are watching the best played hockey by our club in the past 20 years. They are going to get a lot better also, as they pull together and work on parts of their game that need improvement.

    Hope you enjoy this one!

  85. Ian Cobb says:

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  86. Anonymous says:

    – CAR was 2-1-1 vs MTL last season, 1-0-1 in MTL
    – CAR has gone 8-0-2 in MTL since the lockout
    – Plekanec (4) has an assist in 3 straight games
    – MTL has won 2 straight and 3 of 4 going 17/18 on the PK
    – MTL has the leagues worst home PP (2/30)
    – Pitkanen (3) has an assist in back to back games
    – CAR has won 2 of their past 3 games, all at home, going 4/16 on the PP
    – CAR is 4-5-0 on the road this season, 6 of the games decided by 1G

  87. observer says:

    most of their wins lately against weaker teams for the most part.

  88. MTLForever says:

    you’re just a joke. 

  89. observer says:

    REAWOKEN!!!!!!!!! Goal of the year – Maxime!

  90. MTLForever says:

    every time we scored i have been triple low fiving my little cousin

  91. since1988 says:

    Haha thats amazing


    “When people agree with me i always feel that i must be wrong” – Oscar Wilde

  92. dre1744 says:

    well there goes my 2 – 0 prediction for the habs.

  93. punkster says:

    Told ya man, take the smoke out of that chimp’s mouth. It’ll stunt his ability to predict scores 😉

  94. samTHEman says:

    WHAT A SAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  95. MTLForever says:


  96. MTLForever says:


  97. MTLForever says:


  98. BKAK72 says:


    That #*+@! STALL ?!?!?!


    — I will not apologize for being a delirious HABS fan! —

  99. Velavok says:

    Im totally holding my breath right now. When markov punched tbe boards i felt sick in my stomach. Please oh please i hope hes ok.

  100. MTLForever says:

    GREAT WIN GUYS!!! So pissed about Markov. 


    Price’s save will be on every highlight reel

  101. lenny says:

    can we get Obyrne back :(

  102. SmartDog says:

    Is there something wrong with Markov’s body?  Or did the Habs help not prepare him properly for his return.   Cause this is just too wacked to be coincidence.


  103. MTLForever says:

    picard is better

  104. MTLForever says:

    Staal turning like that with markov’s leg caught just killed it completely. time to call in Picard from the press box

  105. says:


    They Call Me Shane

  106. observer says:

    every injury to a joint makes it even worse the next time. this was a knee on knee an already less than 100% one.

  107. SmartDog says:

    Soon I’m going to stop cursing Gomez and start calculating how much Markov makes per game.  What’s he play, about 20 games a year? 

    Freak, we need him on the PP.

  108. samTHEman says:

    Markov is just so unlucky. Last season, 1st game gets his tendon cut by Price’s skate – comes back and tears his knee ACL – comes back and injures himself again in the playoffs – misses a number of games this season, comes back and already goes out. I hope to God it’s not a serious thing, but it sure as hell looks like another 2 months without him. Recurring injures can take longer to heal. Best of luck to him.


    Canadiens are 12-3 in goals in the last 3 games with Price averaging 1 GAA. 3 games that were expected to be the toughest so far this season and 3 victories! CELEBRAATTE! TRIPLE LOW FIVVEEE A LA SUBRICE

  109. Everlasting1 says:

    Great performance all around. Price outstanding. Could be a costly win..the way Markov went down and his all too familiar reaction afterward..can’t be good.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  110. punkster says:

    I doubt it’s a simple either/or. Watch the replay and tell me any player wouldn’t have the same result in that instance. Call it a freak accident (again), call it a a pre-meditated intentional injury, call it a fluke. So many equal possiblities.

  111. j2w4habs25 says:

    Markov better be OKAY! or esle.. am gonna start bashing him out!

  112. SmartDog says:

    That sucks.  I didn’t see the play because I had to shut the tv off (letting the kids sleep in front of the fire… the game was already won)… but you’d think Markov would be protecting that knee, at least somewhat.  Especially at that point in a game we were running away with.  F-n crap. 

  113. since1988 says:

    Bring on the Flyers!


    “When people agree with me i always feel that i must be wrong” – Oscar Wilde

  114. deuce6 says:

    Why was Markov on the ice with 5 minutes left in a 5-2 hockey game?

    What was JM thinking? Markov just came back from a major knee injury, FFS..

  115. observer says:

    a sad day in toronto- did you see how burke looked like he was going to pull out his grey hair when vancouver scored on the leafs empty net?

  116. observer says:

    flyers won big tonight too. 2nd overall in east habs 3rd.

  117. SmartDog says:

    I hope Markov is okay. 

    Not that there’s any bright side but if he is down for the count, hello cap space.  With Markov on LTR we’re gonna need it.  Our PP needs a veteran QB or a bullet point man.

  118. Castor says:

    nah…the guy has been playing 24 minutes a game. He obviously has told Martin he feels 100%.

    Let’s just hope it’s minor…


  119. SmartDog says:

    Dammit! Now you’ve done it!

    That thought was hiding out in my mind… now I’m too frustrated to sleep.

    Is the All-Star Game a Joke? Consider that Price isn’t there and Fleury is:
    Fleury’s STATS: |win%: .25|save%: .860|goals/game: 3.23|. In six seasons Fleury has only ONCE had a save % over .912. If he’s an all-star my ass is a hovercraft.

  120. C3P1 says:

    PG is probably already on the phone with Gillis…see Bieksa, Kevin.  Sure as HELL hope marky is ok…it sure looked like he could but weight on his knee while he was walking down the tunnel.


    Avon Old Farms: 2007, 2008 & 2010 New England Division I Hockey Champions – #5

  121. Da Hema says:

    I hardly feel sorry for Leaf “Nation” with rats like Ron Wilson and Grabovski.

    Toronto is despicable.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  122. observer says:

    except for a few minutes in 2nd when habs fell asleep and caroline scored twice. but quickly recovered and definately the best team.

  123. jimmy shaker says:

    Didn’t look bad on Staal’s part…..not a dirty play by any means, just unlucky again, IF, Marky is hurt.  I don’t think he’s hurt too bad, but that’s just my guess.  He embelish’s quite a bit, Marky does.  What I’m wondering is…..where is his intensity?  He’s just strolling out there, not really giving 100% from what I see.  I know he’s still rusty, but I would like to see more effort and interest on his part.  Carey is on his game, too bad he’s got to keep that awful stache…..I mean he looks horrible with that thing, but it’s workin, so skate with it.  IF, Marky is done, than MAB is back again for sure 100%.  His coming back will be raised from probable to guarentee if Marky is shelved.  Stamp it!


  124. savethepuck says:

    Great week for Carey! 3-0, 1.00 GAA and 970 sve %. After the bs shun on the allstar ballot, maybe he’ll get consideration for player of the week honors, those #’s are usually there for goaltenders. We kicked a team that was down at the end of the game and padded our pp stats, hope that shuts some people up who pay more attention to stats than final scores and standings. I REALLY LIKE HOW OUR TEAM IS PLAYING!

  125. J Haul says:

    He didn’t hae much of a chance with the way Staal changed direction so quickly. Just a complete lack of respect shown from scumbag Staal. He knew he wasn’t going to get to that puck first either way and showed a complete disregard for a fellow player.

  126. SeriousFan09 says:

    Anyone know a good prayer for a knee?


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  127. samTHEman says:

    You have to be smarter than that. An injury of that magnitude to the ACL, your knee is never 100%. You may FEEL that you are 100%, and rightly so, but internally your knee is never the same, whether you notice it or not.

  128. SmartDog says:

    If you watched CBC you saw Cherry FINALLY talking about Montreal.  Oh wait – he WASN’T talking about Montreal… he was talking about VANCOUVER and how well their D joins the rush to help score goals.  And they showed Van-Mtl.. over and over… with no mentoin that they didn’t score ANY goals that game.  And no mention of Montreal in the whole stupid f-n coaches hand-job corner.

    Meanwhile, over in TSN, catch this beauty line in the article that leads in by saying that Vancouver “continues” to feast on Eastern teams… Vancouver, meanwhile, improved to 5-0-1 against Eastern opponents with its second straight win. Huh?  ZERO LOSSES?  Did I only DREAM we shut them out?  Crazy, just f-n crazy.


    I need to improve my damn French.  Or move to Toronto where I can trip some of these guys walking down the street.  Morons. 

  129. observer says:

    His save tonight was the best save of this season by any goalie I have seen.

  130. Curtis O Habs says:

    Bang on with that one. Bieksa brings some grit.

  131. J Haul says:

    Disagreed on the Staal part. The way he played that was completely unnecessary. You don’t have to intentionally do something for it to be considered dirty in my eyes. His lack of respect there is what makes it dirty. He’s a bit of a scummy player to begin with.

    Either way, I tend to agree with you on the MAB front. Although it looks like we’re finally making the PP work without the Bergeron-esque point shot lately, he’s still likely a front runner.

  132. habaddict_andy says:

    I wouldn’t be too confident against Flyers. They are a big body. They have tones of talent and we couldn’t beat them in the playlets. Should be a good game.

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  133. Seps says:

    The Habs win 7-2 in a great game and you commenting on the Leafs?  Get off this site and observe that nobody wants you here.


    Hockey is what’s called a team game.

  134. MTLForever says:

    there was NO reason to spin like that, staal knew he had markov caught

  135. avatar_58 says:

    Oh no. I liked the win, but Markov :(


    PRICE……that save was epic. That’s mah boy!

  136. observer says:

    exactly as i thought while watching and listening to the expert.

  137. savethepuck says:

    thought the same thing

  138. jimmy shaker says:

    I’ve never thought of Staal as that type of player, and really never saw anything wrong in what he did.  I thought he was just going after the puck.  And for me, ever since Marky has been back, he’s pretty much played tentatively out there, and everyone knows if your playing timidly or scared out there, more often than not your going to get hurt.  I still think he’s going to be fine, but the MAB thing should go ahead as planned anyway!


  139. mrhabby says:

    LMAO…your on a role.

  140. samTHEman says:

    I can guarantee you if Markov is out even for 2-3 months, MAB will not be back. Most likely Picard will take his spot and Weber or Carle will get a call-up.

  141. punkster says:

    Hey, they have an excuse for being dumba**. They have to live there 😉

    (No offence is intended to any and all Habs fans who reside in the Toronto area or who have relatives who reside there unless of course those relatives are themselves Leaf fans then may the a thousand flea infested camels take up residence in their spare Toronto bedrooms)

  142. MTLForever says:

    Carey’s huge save on Larose was the game right there. If that went in, would’ve been a lot different. I’m so happy about the win, when is the last time Habs scored 7 goals? However, Markov…ugh..that’s just a piss off.

  143. VancouverHab says:

    SD — the TO media don’t like us: isn’t it great!

    (In fairness to Don Cherry, (a.) two Canadian teams nationally broadcast do get featured, (b.) he has an honest reason for not liking us — I do think he respects us though. TO guys like us as little as we like them ;–)

    PS: I have French enough to enjoy RDS (& I love the bilingual chat feed on atdhe) and it is awesome for Hab fans.

  144. Seps says:

    What are you talking about?  Markov went to hit him going to the puck and it looked like Staal lost his balance and then they fell, it wasn’t anyones fault.


    Hockey is what’s called a team game.

  145. habaddict_andy says:

    I was saying the exact same things. Don Don was busy watching Toronto’s game he didn’t realize how good we played tonight. He did mention about Price. MHD thought they were going to show just the glove. They ended up showing more than just one clip and he said “oh you want to show how good he is?

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  146. floatingineather says:

    bed bugs would be much trendier

  147. slapshot777 says:

    Just finished watching the press conference with JM and he said that he don’t know anything yet on Markov. He said he hasn’t spoken to either Markov or the doctors. I uess this will be a couple of days before we get a definitive answer.


    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  148. Drive_For_25 says:

    If Markov misses one game from this that’s pathetic.  Didn’t feel he should’ve been hurt so bad from Cooke’s hit last year and now this.  If your body can’t hold up on plays like that you have no business being in this league.  TRADE HIM NOW!!!!  Subban is the future and you know you can count on him in the playoffs.  He was better than Markov before he got hurt last year anyways.  Marky is a BAND-AID!!! And not a lot of heart in the playoffs.  I think if he’s only out short term you start shopping him right away, if he’s out long term wouldn’t be worth it to trade him his value would be way down, keep him for this year’s run and let him walk or sign at a discount.  On a happier note, GREAT game tonight!!!


    GO HABS GO!!!!!!

  149. kempie says:

    Nice to get the win and spread out the scoring like that. Very good effort. Very satisfying to see Ward chased finally. He’s has our number ever since that series where he relieved Gerber. But Markov? Are you serious? Man that sure takes the fun out of a good win.

  150. Seps says:

    Guess we’re down to two on the all-star ballot… 


    Hockey is what’s called a team game.

  151. Hagar says:

    This is some kind sick joke. F$#%^&^%$@@!@#$^#^&^&^^%##

  152. scrowe21 says:

    Best game Ive ever been too. Just awesome to be there for a game like that.

  153. MTLForever says:

    Ya Picard will be in, I can see Weber being called

  154. smiler2729 says:

    Shhhhhh! Someone’s gonna get-a-hurt real bad.

  155. Habhopeful says:

    Carey Price after his awesome save…Cant help but think of it lol


    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!” ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  156. savethepuck says:

    SERIOUSLY? one of 3 or 4 guys this team would be stupid to trade.

  157. samTHEman says:

    Rofl. TSN is a joke, but it’s a business before it’s a joke. Actually I might need to have that checked out….They lose viewers if they show Habs segments. They’re more likely to show bad Habs segments than good ones as it will result in angry Leafs fans. They’re angry enough as it is LMAO. Where are those fans that were so boner’d with the Leafs 4-0 start? Not so talkative anymore huh?

  158. Seps says:

    Hey where’s dudurules tonight, he just kept on talking about how the Habs were going to lose, I just want to say I told you so!


    Hockey is what’s called a team game.

  159. Da Hema says:

    What do you people expect?

    Don Cherry? Loser. Always has been, always will be. Whatever.

    While CBC commentators may not have noticed the Leaves suck even more this year, the CBC’s management wisely recognized this in its national scheduling this year. By next year, Toronto will probably not get a nationally-televised game at all unless they are playing Ottawa or Montreal.

    Perennial sucking does have its costs.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  160. TomNickle says:

    You went to the game in Boston Thursday night and the game in Montreal tonight?

  161. mrhabby says:

    So many Cherry haters…love it.

  162. MTLForever says:

    are you kidding? from cooke, he twisted weird..any time you do that, that knee is done. tonight, staal had his leg caught, staal spinned…done. were not going to trade markov, that is ridiculous buddy.

  163. Jbird says:

    A bit of a harsh analysis. . . . Were you mad at him when couldn’t handle Price’s skate slicing deep into him? I wasn’t.

  164. scrowe21 says:

    Yep, took the bus from Montreal to Boston and the bus back the next morning.

  165. dhenry1234 says:

    No reason to sign bergeron again. Picard is a much more solid defensemen, especially when paired with PK. if Marky is injured its time for Picard to play and we should call up Weber or another defensemen from Hamilton to sit out each game

  166. Drive_For_25 says:

    He gets a pass on the skate cuttin him!!  haha  Just extremely angry that he could be out long term again and have been thinking about the upside to trading him this year if Subban came out playing just like he is now.  Could be very beneficial to our team.  COULD BE is stressed because obviously it`s always a risk giving up a guy of that caliber.  

  167. HardHabits says:

    what’s sad is handing over another lottery pick to Boston

  168. TomNickle says:

    Now that’s a fan.  Making the trip by bus for 7 hours to go to a thursday night regular season game in Boston and then going to the saturday night home game too.

  169. dhenry1234 says:

    hahahaha. whats that a reference from? sounds so familiar. Stand up comedy?

  170. samTHEman says:

    MMM…Jennifer Esposito is Yummy.

  171. scrowe21 says:

    20 hours on the train to get to Montreal too! But its been worth every mile.

  172. Danno says:

    Man I envy you. I hope they do as well when I go to see them in January.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  173. andrewberkshire says:

    Russell Peters.

  174. Jeff says:

    Sorry boys the words out, Marky is FRAGILE and over the hill, PK is your best defenceman.

    No one wants to take a chance on damaged goods even if there were some Cap space open on teams.

    Surely nobody would take him ‘as is’ hmmm possibly a used car dealer. 

    Done like dinner!

  175. VancouverHab says:

    I’m praying to St Charles Borromeo …

  176. Nina76 says:

    As far as I was concerned that was a deliberate KNEE ON KNEE!!!!! if you get tha chance watch the play. Stall knew what he was doing Good Luck Markov…SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD  GO HABS GO!!!!!!GREAT GAME LOVE IT

  177. Seps says:

    or he just lost some balance?

  178. JohnBellyful says:

    Just as I was asking myself for the umpteenth time tonight what does Lapierre bring to the table, other than dumb penalties (three games in a row now, I believe), he scores that spinarama goal to knock the Habs’ arch-nemesis out of the game. Okay, he gets to dress the next game.

    But he’s not the only offender so Monday’s team practice should focus on NOT taking unnecessary penalties. They killed the Habs’ momentum and opened the door for the Canes to get back into the game.

    Fortunately the team once again showed its resiliency in not crumbling after Carolina overcame a two-goal deficit. No more late game collapses like last year.

    And Plekanec and Price again showed by their spectacular play why they should be considered front-runners for the Hart Trophy this season.

    Yes, it was only a win against a .500 team but Carolina has had Montreal’s number for quite a while so it made for a very satisfying victory.

    Why does Markov remind me of Groundhog Day?

  179. savethepuck says:

    I think Carolina, like some other teams, have had the Habs number because usually Ward stands on his freaking head against us.  Tonight, early in the game, Carolina had all the pp chances and Carey stood on his head.  After 3 or 4 great saves by Carey on a pk, the penalty got over and Montreal went down and scored a quick goal.  That was the turning point in this game.

  180. CharlottetownHabbies says:

    When does quick hits usually get posted?

  181. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    We’re 5-3-1 at home this year, yet calls this a “rare home win” in the lead to their post-game story.  This while their team is mired in an 8-game losing streak…you have to hand it to them, they are at least audacious.

  182. Danno says:

    TSN = Toronto Sucks Network


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  183. habs_1993 says:

    I think the saying is for a win at home “against Carolina”

    Since there record before tonites game was 8-0-2

  184. Da Hema says:

    I believe TSN’s “rare home win” reference was to the Habs’s home record against Carolina.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  185. OverseasFan says:

    I’m glad to have everyone underestimating us. I don’t care what a commentator in TO says, or if absolutely none of our guys make the All-Star Team.

    All I care about are Ws that will lead us to the post-season, and then the Cup! If we do so quietly, without anyone giving us credit for it, so be it.

  186. SmartDog says:

    Isn’t that TSTN? The Toronto Sucks Toronto Network.


    Is the All-Star Game a Joke? Consider that Price isn’t there and Fleury is:
    Fleury’s STATS: |win%: .25|save%: .860|goals/game: 3.23|. In six seasons Fleury has only ONCE had a save % over .912. If he’s an all-star my ass is a hovercraft.

  187. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    I think it was referring to a rare win against Carolina. Meaning I agree with all 3 of these comments wholeheartedly

  188. Danno says:

    TSN = Truculence Shitbomb Network


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  189. Jeff says:

    Do you guys ever stop bitchin?  Your team is in first place (4 now) and are riding a high, leave the rest of Canada alone.

    Your turn for a slump is coming & soon. This bullcrap luck will not last, just as your run thru the playoffs last season, incomprehensible.

    The word is out now, every team will be UP for games against the current Eastern leader.

    BTW, do you really think the rest of Canada gives a flyin f about the Habs?

    Go down to the brasserie and start a fight or riot because you WON!   Geez…….. 

  190. MTLForever says:

    what’s hilarious is that your favourite current player is Kadri 

  191. MTLForever says:

    good for nothing leafs fan, better change your profile saying that leafs would be a playoff team starting this fall, get out of here 😀

  192. habitual says:

    Leave the rest of Canada alone?

    Who annointed you Captain Canada?

  193. saskhabfan says:

    Hey,jeff from timmins, this is the only thing that the maple leaf organization was known for.





    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  194. Jeff says:

    Here we go the rioters are out in force!  or is that farce?

  195. Jeff says:

    Sorry dimwit,  the season is early yet and the Leafs are into your backyard next week.

    Take notice!

  196. MTLForever says:

    I just do not understand why you are even here? you’re clearly a troll when you love the leafs. 

  197. Jeff says:

    Bugsy’s intolerance of English speaking Canada.  

  198. samTHEman says:

    Hey Jeff, found this in your profile:

    Habs fan since: Leafs were a non-playoff team, this will change in the Fall.


    How’s that working for ya?

    PS: To make the playoffs , it is generally a better idea to move UP the standings. Just a thought. Have a great night.

  199. Chuck says:

    You’d better hope that the Leafs don’t get up to 10 losses in a row… you’ve only got so many fingers to count on.

    Centre Hice: New Canadiens rating systems

  200. Jeff says:

    How ya doin Tommy S…… do you have a fixation on this area of criminal activity….what doe the S stand for Bud? Hmmm?

    Weather is great, Habs in 1st place and you bitch bitch bitch…give it a break!

  201. Mark says:

    So we’re due for a slump, eh? You mean one like your sad sack “team” is currently mired in? Oh, I’m sorry, is mired too big of a word for you? Sorry, I don’t speak by smashing rocks together like your captain and GM do.

  202. Jeff says:

    Aw, pauvre p’tit gar….did i upset your evening?  Habnots fan…

  203. Habhopeful says:

    This bullcrap luck will not last, just as your run thru the playoffs last season, incomprehensible.


    Of course, its not coincidence that since BG & PG assembled this team, we may not have been perfect but we compete, and to win in this league…you have to compete to beat the best, and be the best…We know there will be speed bumps…To the most knowledgeable habs fan…not the “panic button” type of fan…we understand that, but if last years playoffs and this season so far, is any indication…we will pave the path to victory ourselves through hard work…Something your Leaves lack…incredibly…Credit to Carey who has seemed to mature in an off season, his demeanor, his confidence, his team play…Jaroslav Halak’s play last year will probably be the greatest thing to happen to Carey and its something im sure he will remember…dont take what you have for granted…Cheers everone!

    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!” ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  204. saskhabfan says:

    here is the 60 year old virgin leaf fan you are responding to.





    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  205. MTLForever says:

    I never was b*tching, I am a true habs fan unlike you. I love this win and how the guys are playing. It’s clear you love the LAUGHS. It’s funny how you have to start crap here though. 

  206. Jeff says:

    Muahhhh!  U really have a curious nature..BI?

  207. MTLForever says:

    what a joke!! the leafs don’t kick the habs ass every year, that’s hilarious and so are you. I hope you enjoy being on the bottom 😉 you’ll never be in control.

  208. 24moreCups says:

    I don’t usually post but I’m drunk and you comment made me laugh so I just had to!

    First of all man it feels good to drink some beers and watch a my team play good ALL season(even they loose lol)

    Instead of having no life because my team sucks and go post on some other teams site.

    And who are you to say the rest of Canada doesn’t care about the habs?.. funny you say that because I saw a movie not to long ago about Toronto was the most hated city haha(if you don’t believe me google it, I’m not just making this up).

    And it might be really dumb to do(and I don’t agree or weren’t part of it) but at least we have reason to riot! haha


  209. Chuck says:

    The only way the Leafs will get rid of their streak is by washing their underwear.

    Centre Hice: New Canadiens rating systems

  210. Jeff says:

    Hey Charles, a great win tonite for your Smurfs.  Enjoy!

    Leafs will end the streak this week, and most likely beat the crap out of the Habnots next week.

    Are u ready?

    Are u soooo confident?

    Are u an idiot to think that this slump will continue & who cares?

    As long as the Leafs kick Hab ass every year, I’m okay with it….ABM  (Anybody But Montreal)



  211. MTLForever says:

    Hockey fan of Canadian teams only, Leafs first though!


    Interesting Jeff…Habs are a Canadian team yet you love to hate on them. Face it that your Laughs suck and that Burke screwed up.

  212. MTLForever says:

    maybe toronto should riot, may spark the players

  213. MTLForever says:

    What a garbage job :) you’re getting paid with toronto maple leafs losses

  214. saskhabfan says:

    Nope,i love women too much. I’m just wondering why some old creepy dude like yourself is here writing “luring” type posts too much younger people. It must be a leaf thing. Maybe thats why it was so popular at the maple leaf gardens.




     I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  215. saskhabfan says:

    Guess he missed the G-20 summit riots in toronto.

    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  216. MTLForever says:

    Now i am a dimwit? that’s funny. Early in the season, yes..however those are games the leafs will never get back. Face it, the line up of the leafs is not a playoff team at all. If the leafs beat montreal, i am sure you will be back here…but it doesn’t matter really…cuz toronto still will have a losing record come april

  217. saskhabfan says:

    A sperm bank taste tester?





    I think I know more than most about hockey and believe my opinions are almost always reasonable and thought out.-manapart.

  218. MTLForever says:

    it appears so!

  219. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    thanks for reminding everyone here what a fool you are Jeff.

  220. habaddict_andy says:

    I am suspecting someone is a big “L” and I’m not talking leafs.

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  221. Seps says:

    The Habs are loved across Canada man believe it!  We have people on this site that blog from Saskatchewan, Ontario and Newfoundland and more but those are the only 3 I know for sure.  (And Obviously Quebec)  And it’s pretty easy to like a winning team, so Im thinking more Canadians are staring to like Montreal more and more.  BTW your fav player is Kadri, he’s a piece of sh*t, booed his @ss all day when he came to Kitchener.


    Hockey is what’s called a team game.

  222. Jeff says:

    The main culprits were from Quebec, Montreal area.  I have Police info on this fact, it was hushed up to keep you fools from rioting again.

    Tommy sssssssssssssssssss…

  223. Jeff says:

    Well that was intelligent????  

    Am I getting too close to identifying your proclivities….Tommy Sssssssss.

    U R too sensitive, come out of that closet and wear what you want to…..Oh a HABnot sweater, yup that clears it all up!


  224. OverseasFan says:

    Aw, poor Markov. ACL surgery is serious. Athletes are not supposed to be back for 6-9 months.

    He had it in May, so they were really skating the edge (ha! pun intended) of when he should have been back.

    I’m happy for the win, but I hope he’s OK. It must be so frustrating for a top athlete to be out with back-to-back injuries.

  225. OverseasFan says:

    Aw, poor Markov. ACL surgery is serious. Athletes are not supposed to be back for 6-9 months.

    He had it in May, so they were really skating the edge (ha! pun intended) of when he should have been back.

    I’m happy for the win, but I hope he’s OK. It must be so frustrating for a top athlete to be out with back-to-back injuries.

  226. Habhopeful says:

    Poor kipper being left out to dry…iggy will get traded very soon….i would hope we try….i bet he would be able to help put us over the top…what a team already though

    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!”

    ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  227. dhenry1234 says:

    would definitely love to see iginla in a habs jersey. I think he would really get along with cammy, gio, gomer, pleks, etc. Another great leader.

  228. avatar_58 says:

    Maybe if Markov is indeed down….we could try? Bring up Weber or Carle, then hope our offence + Subban can hold things together?

  229. Habhopeful says:

    Its exactly what the team is all about!


    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!” ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  230. dhenry1234 says:

    you Sir, are correct.


    Lets go for Iggy!


    if he can assist on the golden goal he’s cool in my book.

  231. savethepuck says:

    There is a salary cap you know, so who do we get rid of?  Don’t think Calgary will take a straight up trade for Gomez

  232. Habhopeful says:

    I dont know but if they can include him the deal, all for it, no offence to gomez…he’s funny and all but even then, hamrlik with a one year contract, who knows, i dont know but i think it can happen, if PG really had the oppurtinity, which he would have to make himself…were in the east, calgary in the west, its mos def i can see PG quietly make happen, but what do i know…im not wearing any pants…


    “I went to see a fight the other night…And A hockey game broke out!” ~Rodney Dangerfield~

  233. HardHabits says:

    Michael Cammalleri is now +12, second over-all in the league.

  234. andrewberkshire says:

    Kinda makes you wonder, it looks like he’s struggling out there but the stats line says otherwise.

  235. spos080808 says:

    Jeff Schultz was also +50 last season.

    How many times do you think Backstrom, OV, Semin did their thing with Schultz having nothing to do with the play yet got a +1 on the play.

    +/- a stat that shows nothing.

    You could get a -1 for a Dman coughing the puck up on the blueline and giving someone a breakaway goal.

  236. habitual says:

    This was 5 minutes away from being a great night: 

    We win big with the PP really going.

    A good guy like Darche gets a goal.

    Carey is sensational.

    Toronto loses on the same night we win.

    Now … not so much … 3 days ago we had 8 D.  Now we have 6  … If Marky is seriously hurt we had better go out and snag someone.  If Marky’s salary doesn’t count against the cap maybe we can pry Ballard out of the Canucks doghouse.

  237. savethepuck says:

    if he’s seriously hurt, I’m sure we have someone on the farm. That’s why Hamilton is there and has been close to to best AHL team for the past several years

  238. oldrrty says:

    Did anyone else catch on the cbc’s hotstove when they were talking about carters’s new contract that long term deals are really hurting brian burke because it keeps him for building a team? i mean milbury says a lot of crap but that was ridiculous. i thought cherry was the homer on that broadcast but that is pretty close.  Burke has built a contending team, they just happen to play in vancouver and not in toronto

    I don’t care who wins as long as Toronto doesn’t!

  239. SUMO says:

    Yeah, i laughed my ass off. Like other teams are hurting the Leafs ability to go after FAs by locking up their better players. Talk abt one-sided, yellow journalism.

  240. spos080808 says:

    Actually MM HATES Toronto. He bleeds black and gold.

    He was basically making fun of Burke saying that BB’s whole plan is to throw money at UFA’s in the offseason instead of rebuilding through the draft and since teams are reupping their stars, that plan is not going to work, thus not allowing Toronto to get better.

  241. habitual says:

    Maybe.  But he is an UFA next year, and we have 2 D already in that position.

  242. Willy the bum says:

    You never heard of Alexandre Picard?

  243. avatar_58 says:

    Picard played ok, but we need either a REALLY good defensive guy or an offensive guy like Weber to off-set the mistakes. Picard is just so-so, he’s no Markov.

  244. MTLForever says:

    played ok? he was a +6

  245. avatar_58 says:

    Your point? Other than a good game or two he had many mistakes and didn’t make me feel that comfortble. I would give him a handful of games to prove he’s the guy, but think about it. We need someone who can take TOP MINUTES. Picard is the guy? I don’t think so.

    If Markov is down then Gorges needs to play more, as does Spacek/Hamr. The latter of which makes me CRINGE. Unless of course they find their form when Markov when down last year.

    Unless someone can come in and take top minutes OR score on the PP like Weber/Carle would (offense to off set lack of D) then we need to trade for someone. Can’t go months on end without Markov. We just CAN’T.

  246. habaddict_andy says:

    He is +7 and I think we can afford an ok player as long as it’s not MAB. I hope Timo’s not reading this… 😉

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  247. MTLForever says:

    picard was doing fine along side subban. i never said picard was the guy lol. so calm down a little. weber may be good at scoring but he’s not that great in the defensive zone…neither is carle..

  248. habfan53 says:

    And Weber IS??

  249. avatar_58 says:

    Which is the point. Hamr or Spacek takes his spot, while Weber/Carle scores on the PP to help keep the points on OUR side. Because lord knows minus markov the defensive side of things suffer

  250. SeriousFan09 says:

    I think Nash is more likely to get the call, Weber too often has trouble in his own zone and in the NHL that would drive JM nuts, Nash is better positionally and brings size to the equation, I think he may get a shot.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  251. MTLForever says:

    picard will play

  252. savethepuck says:

    Very very true, forgot about him. Went into panic mode like others on this site

  253. habitual says:

    Picard is #6.  My point is, we had D “insurance” 3 days ago and now we are a flu bug away from calling up someone on the farm.

    That would be the 9th D on the depth chart  …

  254. Ian Cobb says:

    What the hell was Markov out there for in the last couple of minutes of a rout?????

    This could mean everything Jacques!!!!!

  255. Ayan_SB says:

    Don’t flame me for asking this, but would Markov get a 1st round draft pick in return? A team like the Devils, Oilers or the NY Islanders could sure use a puck-moving D man. A top 3 draft pick would be great, imagine Adam Larsson or Sean Couturier. 

  256. avatar_58 says:

    Good point, but it’s not like he could have forseen such a thing

  257. spos080808 says:

    No way in hell the Oil or Isles give up their first rounder this year for a guy who is a huge injury risk and a UFA at the end of the year. Stop dreaming.

    As for the Devils, you do realize they have no cap money right? And they will NOT be a bottom feeder all season.

  258. fbkj says:

    for the first year in forever markov has been a non factor in our game


    id relax ian


    being said i cringed as well

  259. SeriousFan09 says:

    Didn’t the NJD give up their 2011 pick? I doubt the Isles or Oilers would bite though considering where they’re likely to go in the standings.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  260. savethepuck says:

    AGAIN? Why r people even considering trading our MVP over the last 5 years by far,by far, by far, by far, by far. I am dumbfounded


  261. _Habsoloutly_ says:

    Markov will be all healed up just in time for the playoffs, then he’ll get hurt again.  lol

  262. spos080808 says:

    I have no issue with Markov being out there at the end of the game.

    Not like Staal was trying to hurt him. It was a fluke play. It could have happened the 1st min or with 10 seconds left. These things happen.

    Markov needs all the ice time he can get to get back into the flow of things.

    And what would the difference have been if it was Subban out there, Gorges, Hammer, Gill. All players are just as valuable to the Habs as Markov. The Dmen had to be out there for the final shifts of the game.

  263. avatar_58 says:

    Maybe so, but less markov means MORE Spacek, Hamr and Gill. Not to knock those fellas, but they do *not* need top ice time.

  264. sh00n says:

    What? MVP? Kind of hard to be MVP when you’re made of glass and always in the press box.

    Markov’s a great player, but he’s gone from the days of being our MVP, sad to say. That honor is firmly in the hands of Pleks/Cammo/Carey now.

  265. habaddict_andy says:

    Good point, we need someone who can eat up minutes to give hammer, Gill and Spacek. Tonight was a bitter sweet win.

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  266. linp says:

    Was last operation on Markov’s right knee or left knee?

    Replay showed that Staal’s knee hit Markov’s right knee. Markov didn’t twist his knee like last time.

  267. Timo says:

    I am so f#$%%& sick of Hurricanes. Useless POS’s. Every single time we play these scumbags somebody gets hurt. I can’t stand Stall. I hope someone ends his career sooner rather than later. 

    The worst of this all was seeing Markov punching the boards – a terrible sign. Well, I guess it means Picard is back in and somebody gets promoted from the A to eat Molson hot dogs in the pressbox. That OB trade is looking just fantastic right now. 

    Other than that a totally awesome win and an absolutely ridiculous night for me in the pool. Holy I may have just shot up from the 5th into the first.

    Go Habs Go!!! (Die Canes Die!!!)


  268. spos080808 says:

    1st of all, there was NOTHING dirty about the play! Staal is one of my most hated NHL players, but he did nothing wrong here and absolutely did not try to hurt Markov. Not even close to a dirty play. No idea why ANYONE even thinks that for one moment.

    And 2nd of all, Picard would have played before OByrne so OB would have still been stuck in the press box. So the trade still have zero effect on the team with or without Markov.

  269. NightRyder says:

    Who will be the first one to mention Sheldon Souray’s name?

  270. Da Hema says:


    Spos below pretty much nailed a home run against what you pitched.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  271. Timo says:

    Apparently, you are. And hopefully the last one.

  272. Timo says:

    Where in my rant did I say it was a dirty play? I said I hate Stall and wish him a career ending injury. 

  273. Wops says:


  274. J Haul says:

    I don’t think dirty HAS to = intentional. It was dirty in that Staal showed a total disregard for another player when he knew full well that he couldn’t get to that puck first. His dance moves were completely unnecessary.

  275. Everlasting1 says:

    Pacquiao rearranged his face, and Margarito is ugly to begin with. When is that Mayweather fight gonna happen? Can those two egos come to terms on the millions?


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  276. Mothstoflame says:

    Breezer has been skating on battle of the blades,  lets bring him back

  277. habitual says:

    That is supposed to be funny?

  278. egold says:

    The Markov injury implies that Hamrlik, Spacek and Gill will eat more minutes – as I’m sure people have mentioned earlier.  While that’s a short term fix, it won’t work in the long run.  By the time January rolls around their legs will be finished…


    We need to hope Picard can come back into the lineup and provide his steady play once again, and guys like Subban and Gorges are prepared to play BIG MINUTES.


    Can a trade be on the horizon?  If Markov is placed on long term IR, I suppose the team will free up some cap space to bring a player in.  A puck moving defenseman would be what the doctor ordered, ideally a player with short term contractual obligations who can fit in for this year.  Putting all biases aside, I’d love to see Tomas Kaberle in that role (wishful thinking I know!)


    Just depressing this game even though we flourished.  This team has a lot of heart and I believe they can march on for #79.  We gotta continue supporting ’em!!!

  279. avatar_58 says:

    Who cares, Staal sucks and so does his team. This game did NOT help matters

  280. RiverviewCanadien says:

    K whoa.

    It really sucks to lose Markov, but the team can win without him.

    Plekanec is the teams MVP. No doubt about it…he is the key to the Habs success.

  281. SeriousFan09 says:

    They can win without him, but that NE Division Title race against Boston just got a lot harder. Hamrlik, Spacek and Gill piling on the minutes all season is not going to help with a playoff run and at least Markov came back halfway last season to give them a respite.

    Not to mention, Subban will be targeted more than ever with teams knowing to get him out of the game will mean a total end of the Habs transition game from their blueliners.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  282. Da Hema says:

    Timo: I think a reasonable person would have concluded from your psychotic rant that you believed Stall intended to hurt Markov. So fine, I concede my deduction was mistaken.


    An important announcement from the Government of Canada:

    Health Canada is reminding Canadians that consumption of the Toronto Maple Leafs has led to vomiting, fever, bloody diarrhea, dementia, and penile dysfunction.

  283. Seps says:

    Habsolutely 😉


    Hockey is what’s called a team game.

  284. db says:

    It was the right (or wrong) knee…

  285. Mikey_39 says:

    I feel like crying.  Markov has to be the most unlucky player ever.  What will this mean when it comes to signing him? Will management see this as Markov just being glass and not worth re-signing?  I hope not.  Markov belongs on the Habs team and I hope he finishes his career here.


    Call me sentimental, but I would have signed Plecky for double the amount and still considered this guy worth it.  What a player.

  286. Seps says:

    How about O’Byrne, oh wait he’s in Colorado.  Actually I was fine with the trade I’d bring up Weber, he almost has a point per game being a D in the AHL, he has NHL experience and could really help out the PP.  Although we went 2 for 2 on the PP after Markov was hurt, just saying.


    Hockey is what’s called a team game.

  287. jimmy shaker says:

    MAB will be meeting with PG and co on Monday and could be in the lineup by the weekend vs Toronto. A couple of games in Hamilton this week coming up then back up on Saturday on HNIC vs the buds.

    Sounds good, shake and bake and I’m gone!


  288. avatar_58 says:

    F MAB.

    Sorry but I’m tired of hearing this…

  289. jimmy shaker says:

    It’s the one true answer to the habs PP/injury fill in for Marky and a sensible cheap cheap cap hit for all his offensive help from the backend that he brings.  It won’t be going to rest anytime soon my friend.  Sorry, I know I’m only one of about maybe 6 people on here that wouldn’t mind seeing him back here, but I think it’s about 99% done after this latest injury!


  290. dhenry1234 says:

    You will never see Bergeron play with the habs this season or playoffs.

  291. jimmy shaker says:

    We’ll see who will be eating humble pie my friend, really, really soon!


  292. habaddict_andy says:

    Stall could have avoided Markov by lifting the other leg and slide on one skate. But hit kept 2 skates on the ice and decided to go right at Markov. His a #%^*n a hole and Moen should have go straight at him as soon as he had the chance.

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  293. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …REALLY pray Andrei makes a miraculous recovery …but IF We have significant cap-space to fill …I wonder whether My Man Manny Pacquiao is a Habs Fan and can He skate ? …preferably would like Him signed BEFORE We meet the Phlyers and the Weeds

    …I would wager He should change some peoples perspective of the word …’smurf’

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

  294. christophor says:

    Markov didn’t look to be in as much pain as he was after the incident with Cooke.

    Hopefully a strain and not a tear, or at least not a bad tear. He’ll need some rehab but hopefully not surgery.


    Maybe in the end he signs for cheap and never gets injured again … I can dream

  295. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Luke Richardson’s daughter Daron passed away …under the worst possible circumstances

    …and talking of ‘perspective’ …it makes much of Our problems and complaining seem comparitively like such drivel

    …I wish Luke’s family strength and faith …I wish Daron …peace

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

  296. j2w4habs25 says:

    TO MTL:  Jarome Iginla

    TO CAL: Kostitsyn – Markov – a 2011 pick

    dontcha think? wouldn’t mind Iginla playing for MTL 😛

  297. observer says:

    Not the only offspring of pro athletes to do the same over the last few years.

  298. N.B.habs fan says:


    ,I really think he will be ok,he was walking and did’t seem to be in much pain.We sure don’t need to start having injuries now .

  299. Mike D says:

    Absolutely NOT!  That’s wayyyyy too much to give up. 

    In a salary cap NHL, draft picks (that have potential) are far too important cuz they provide inexpensive talent (see: P.K.).  Markov is far too important to this team, even IF he’s out for a bit again, and he’s the perfect mentor for Subban.  I’m not a huge fan of AK46 because of his inconsistency, but a 3mil cap hit for a big winger who’ll get you25-30 goals isn’t terrible – you could do better but you could also do worse – and he seems to fit nicely with Pleks or Gomez.

    Iggy is on the down swing and has been for a little bit now due to the rough-and-tumble way he plays.  He’s still good but at age 33 and still signed for 3 years (inc. this year) at a 7mil cap hit, he’s not worth it.  He’s a heart and soul guy with great leadership and I do like him, but I’m not at all that interested in bringing him aboard….especially not at the cost you listed.

    – Honestly yours

  300. ctony says:

    Notwithstanding the Markov uncertainty, this week silenced
    all the skeptics.  Carey was awesome, the
    PP returned, Cammi, Gionta, and Gomez remembered how to score and PK was doing
    the things we love to see. 


    If we don’t get Markov back, PG cleared the cap room to make
    bring a game changer at D and if we do, then things are right with the


    I was a skeptic and I approve this post.


  301. nightmare_49 says:


       Steve Simmon’s Sunday Rant:

        … Just wondering: Why so much noise when Patrick Kane stiffed a Buffalo cab driver of change but just a muffle of sound when Brett Sutter, son of the GM, gets charged with allegedly beating up a cabbie in Arizona?

       … For those counting, 16 of the 20 players dressed for the Maple Leafs on Saturday night, not including Dion Phaneuf and Colby Armstrong, were acquired by Brian Burke in his two years as general manager. So for those who argue this isn’t his team, the facts, frankly, don’t add up.

        … Burke has succeeded in bringing better players to Toronto such as Kessel and Phaneuf, younger players, but the team still lacks something more than centres. It could use a Brian Skrudland/Doug Risebrough type or three, the kind of player who makes teams better without necessarily scoring goals.

        … In fairness, the best players at the Air Canada Centre on Saturday night — Henrik Sedin, Daniel Sedin and Ryan Kesler — were Burke draft choices.

       Read more of Simmon’s sports article …

  302. kirkiswork says:

    Before Bob blew up the habs we had a group of individuals, now we have a TEAM.

  303. habstrinifan says:

    If Begeron returns to this lineup it will be disastrous for the chemistry of the team. For one thing it will put thta little seed into the other players’ heads when they see such a soft mistake-prone and generallly useless player getting ‘huge’ ice time. It will be demoralising.

    And JM does not seem to see the flaws in MAB game so you can expect it.


  304. OverseasFan says:

    I’m sentimental, too. I see that picture of Markov and I just want to give him a hug.

  305. habstrinifan says:

    Although I would accept Souray if he were cheap rather than Begron…. no way to either right now please.

  306. habs365 says:

    everyone knocks PG….I wouldn’t want you replacing him

  307. Psycho29 says:

    That’s a nice thought….end someone’s career….

    Stay classy…

  308. Fab K says:

    who cares about the allstar game!!! i rather they rest…

  309. adam76 says:

    how many games has Markov lost in the last two seasons?

  310. smiler2729 says:

    If Calgary throws in Robyn Regher and Jay Bouwmeester, sure.

  311. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Any official news from the Habs’ organization on the extent of the injury to Markov and how long or games he will miss?

  312. Ian Cobb says:

    In the 30 team league, here is where we place
    and how we have progressed this week. Keeping in mind, some teams have
    games in hand and the season is young.



    Goals Against—36.  We are in  4th place.    Last week we were in 10th.

    Total Points—–23.  We are in  5th place.    Last week we were in   7th.

    Goals For——–46.  We are in 15th place.    Last week we were in  19th


    A nice little move up, in all major areas.

  313. habstrinifan says:

    Might just be some idiot fan spouting off… but just read in TSN’S comments section that “it’s official.. Markov out for 3 mths”. Again maybe just a blowhard braying because I havent seen news anywhere else.

  314. habsguy says:

    Why are we reading all this Leaf garbage?????

  315. Ian Cobb says:

    Does Toronto still play in the NHL ? or are they just passing through?  while hosing the full house suckers, that don’t even recognise how this game is supposed to be played.

  316. SeriousFan09 says:

    Tomas Plekanec was the 3rd star of the Night according to and is 15th overall in league scoring.

    Carey Price is tied at 1st overall for wins (10th at GAA with 2.18, 11th for save % with .923), he is statistically dominant over all netminders who have played 13 games or more as well.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  317. CharlieHodgeFan says:

    The RDS article is extremely tentative. They had to put something up because the likes of us are concerned, and concern makes money. But the extent of the injury is still not public knowledge. The medical staff may not even know.

    Markov can’t be replaced, but the team is deeper than it was thanks to Gainey. O’Byrne would not have been much help, so that’s not an issue. He seemed like a nice kid, but a deer in the headlights isn’t what’s needed. Having P.K. eases the loss a bit.

    Picard is very good, and let’s hope Carle gets to shine. Weber may be just as Swiss as Streit, but that probably won’t help.

  318. habstrinifan says:

    I would trade AK46 and a 2011 pick (very very reluctantly right now) for Iggy. Dont know if they would want Markov but if so I would include him for a depth player. As I said this would be a very very tough move to make RIGHT NOW but when I think of Iggy in this lineup and remember the mantra “dont fall too in love with your players” that you sacrifice opportunities to improve. I am in love with AK46 now as I am with say Ellers and Pouliot but geez would be second-guessing forever if I pass up an Iggy for an AK. I think Iggy can impact a team on the crest like the HABS mor ethan AK can.

    Iggy should certainly replace AK46 easily in our lineup.

    Picard and Webber and maybe another depth d-man should provide alternatives by committee for Markov who is important but injury ridden. Maybe groom Georges to be more important offensively (like Streit). Geroges has the mobility and dedication and I think willingness to do more than be a partner to Gill.

    I say go for that trade.

    More I think of it.. I am pulling the trigger.

  319. Psycho29 says:

    Disgruntled Leaf’s fan probably!


  320. habstrinifan says:

    Just wondering if you agree with my post above.. I mean give it a serious second thought. Forecast Iggy the player and AK the player over a span of a season… their impact etc. And think about habs thru some lows. Would Iggy be better than AK then? I know Iggy is languishing in Calgary but that is hugely cause of the entire Sutter fiasco there… Iggy is by no ways done. What are our guarantees re AK based on his ‘inconsistent’ history.


  321. filincal says:

    “…possibly 3 months” was said on Sportscentre last night, but didn’t say exactly who told them. I don’t think anyone could possibly know yet.




  322. habstrinifan says:

    RDS is saying 3 mths and team 999 giving validity to it. WOW! Maybe the ‘end’ of Markov as a top two D in habs thinking eh? Hope PG first calls up Webber or Carle or Nash or some prospect before making hasty trade and use Picard and prospect to ‘fill’ spot and prove themselves.

    Giving Markov his due as top D but moving on …… gotta do that. The team is too poised for greatness now to either panic or live in hopes for full-season Markov… Gotta act and act cautiously but deliberately.

  323. filincal says:

    I don’t like the fact that Marky throw his gloves off every time he’s gotten injured. What’s the purpose of it? It’s almost like it’s a routine….let’s all hope his injury isn’t that bad.




  324. habstrinifan says:

    Nice stats Ian. Intangible stat is their excitement quota… WOW they a re looking like a HABS team of the FORUM ilk eh.


  325. habstrinifan says:

    Very very sad! I tend to bury my head in the sand on this type news. Too close to home.

  326. Castor says:

    unfortunately. that picture is all too familiar.

  327. Bill J says:

    1) I’d like to see how you would react to having your knee taken out.

    2) Every time ? – Perhaps because it is fresh in your mind the other knee injury he suffered…  But only been twice now, far from “every time”.

    3) If you saw how he reacted AFTER, when he pounded the ice with his hand.  You would realize he was none too happy about it, so there was no “acting” involved.

    4) Stop reading too much into things.

  328. g says:

    ya-that the thing to focus on

    “Long before I ever wore the jersey, I wore the jersey.” Dryden

  329. Castor says:

    Dear good Lord in heaven I hope not.

  330. Bill J says:

    “to do the same” – as if the children all planned to die.

    WTF kind of incensitive type of reply was this ?

    And you wonder why people call you a TROLL.


  331. Bill J says:

    I agree with others below, when I say “Dead God I hope not”

    BUT – yeah one of the first thoughts I had when Markov went down, was “Oh God Shaker & Timo are going to be on the MAB bandwagon like never before!”

    Thanks for being consistent in your desires.  :)


  332. Puck Bard says:

    Ya, what a poor sport.

  333. mrhabby says:

    Calgary trading the face of there franchise…not likely. I think iggy now on the down side of his career a bit. seems more a perimeter player these days than a pure power forward.

  334. LA Loyalist says:

    What is the point of your pointless comment? Markov throws his gloves off? So what?

    And oh yeah, they sold some beer at the Bell Center last night. Big effing news flash. Our most important player is out again (tbd how long) and that’s what you bring to HIO. 

    Sorry, but jeez.

  335. LA Loyalist says:

    Deja vu all over again — About Streit – we were insane to let him go.

    Late last night watched the 3rd period of the 2008 Greatest Comeback Game (that DVD set is unbelievable) against the Rangers, the 6-5 thriller (we were down 5-0) where Koivu deeks Lundqvist in the Shoot out and Huet stones Jagr to end it.

    Aside from it being a VERY WEIRD experience seeing Carbo behind the bench and Kovalev working his ass off, it is very clear how important Streit was to our attack. He was used on the PP of course but he could be thrown on a forward line and he made some really slick passing. He brought a lot more than a shot to the dance, and MAB is a one trick pony. Streit also gave us another dimension that freed up Markov.

    We have not replaced him.

    BTW Gomez was on the losing end of that game. He sucked then too. Waiving his stick at guys as they stickhandle around him like he does on the habs.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  336. HabFanSince72 says:

    Anyone notice that our power play suddenly came to life this week?

    Anyone in  doubt as to the reason?

    This is a huge loss. Again.


  337. LA Loyalist says:

    How do we get Burke to take Gomez?

    With Markov out, and knowing Burke hates Kaberle (Kaberle is not Markov, but he’s better than MAB) is there a  prayer (in any known religion) to get the Boat Anchorage out of here?

  338. LA Loyalist says:

    I would take Iginla in a second – Sutter is a doink – but we can’t trade Markov when he’s injured (morally, I don’t know what the rules are) and I wouldn’t anyway, and I would not like to lose Kostitsyn the Elder now that he is finally going…

    Beyond that, offer Gomez and… someone young and good where we have a little depth…??? A bit like the Poo/Latendresse trade, 2 guys in slumps, hope the change will do them both good.


  339. andrewberkshire says:

    And the Habs would be getting massively hosed in that deal. Iginla is in major decline, playing atrocious. Markov for Iginla straight up would probably even be a bad trade for the Habs if Markov stops getting injured.

  340. LA Loyalist says:

    re-watch the 08 Game I mention above (habs/rangers). I think we have all forgotten the dimension Streit gave us. If Josh G can be developed into that it will be fantastic, but he ain’t that yet.


    “the beatings will continue until morale improves”

  341. LA Loyalist says:

    Review Iginla’s numbers up until this year – he’s been pretty consistent and also durable. I think this year is the players around him and the “Sutter Effect”. With Habs skating attack I think he would be totally rejuvanated and his overall track record justifies the risk. 


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  342. LA Loyalist says:

    Straight up for Gomez and a tray of sandwiches from Schwartz’s – and they have to throw in a case of Big Rock :)

  343. LA Loyalist says:

    Hey 365 – the guy presents a reasoned argument and you just insult him, you are too lame to even counter his argument.

    I was against trading K elder as he’s finally going well, in fact I just posted it, but on reading some of the guys reminding me of his inconsistency, I am reconsidering (not on Markov, though).

    You sell stock high and buy low. In that sense K + ? for Iginla, I’ll roll those dice. Maybe you won’t, c’est la vie. 

    But that’s the process. You don’t have to agree, you can present an alternative. But that sort of lame attack, unjustified, make this a miserable site sometimes so apologize to him and smarten up. :) Try again, you’ll be welcomed.

  344. habs365 says:

    you don’t build a team with 33 year old’s….we have enough of them now….a young team will win a cup for ya….check chicago out….gotta have a few vets maybe 3 or 4 but that’s it

    no to Iginla….they’d want to much….we’re doing just fine and it takes a few years to build a stanley cup team….you won’t see anymore 5 stanley cups in 5 seasons….it’s a money thing….and an american trying to run our sport….he should go with football or baseball….

    the Rocket said so.

  345. habstrinifan says:

    I totally agree with you. Remember the original suggestion was AK46 for Iggy. Quick response with AK’S ‘resurgence’ right now and Iggy’s difficulties right now would be NO WAY! But reviewing them as players and projecting their impact on the team (which I truly think is on the crest of something special) I agree with you…. Iggy for AK and a 2011 pick is a trade I will make. Cap hit etc etc will have to be worked out.. but player value for player value.. I would make it. And you know what the next day after the team WILL be better I think.

  346. Mike D says:

    My fellow Koivu fan, that will never happen.  Gomez is a centre and Iggy’s a RW.  If we trade Gomer, who’s gonna centre the 2nd line?  Don’t say Halpy cuz while I’ve been presently surprised by him, I don’t think he has the ability to play 2nd line minutes/role for an entire season.

    JI is 2 years older than SG and his contract is only one year shorter.  PLus the way JI has played (while I greatly admire btw), his body age is probably closer to 38.

    – Honestly yours

  347. Mike D says:

    A lot, but that doesn’t make him expendible.  If it does, then it also lowers his trade value and I’m not interested in giving any team a discount on a player of Markov’s calibre.

    – Honestly yours

  348. Mike D says:

    Hi Bill. Not trying to get in the middle of you and observer, but just thought I’d point out that the girl committed suicide, and I think that’s what he was referring to in his post. In that sense, they did plan to die.

    – Honestly yours

  349. Mike D says:

    I hope you weren’t being serious. J-Bo’s contract is a bigger albatros than Gomez’s. Not to mention your entire scenario isn’t possible due to the salary cap.

    – Honestly yours

  350. habstrinifan says:

    Streit was beautiful to watch. And would have fit in so perfectly on the team now. I remember feeling good about my assessment of Streit when he was lavishly praised by PJ on the team 990 on more than one occasion. PJ was of course not always right but he was on this one.

    The problem is habs fan and management fell for the same old fallacy. They draft (trade for a player) based on his possssing a certain skillset and turn on him because he does not play with Philadelphia Flyer like toughness. Streit was condemned for his playoff ‘softness’ unmercifully. And it expedited his being let go.

    Too bad!

    Now we try to see the same in Webber. Webber is young and may indeed develop like Streit but I dont see it. You watch a guy’s ‘presence’ on the ice and you can tell if he’s got it or not. It is the same kind of feeling I had about Higgins that I have about Webber. Just dont have it. And sad to say I am of the same opinion re Pacioretty (maybe a little less sure though). Big and hellbent on skates and industrious etc… but just aint got it to be what HABS wants him to be. Now the guy Palushaj and player like Eller and Pouliot (I am not a johhny come lately here.. I have championed Pouliot since trade happened) I think are ‘real prospects’. As I have always believed that given a more expanded(offensive) role Lapierre will be a a more important player than he has been. Which is why I am delighted he is being used with Gomez.

    Having said all that I hope PG calls up Webber if Markov is absent and JM gives him a fair chance to prove me wrong. Make it a battle between Webber and Picard to fill Markov’s spot and if they fail look elsewhere… including maybe Nash or Carle.

    And be very analytical re what we want from this ‘d-man’ and assess the kids seriously… before making a decision one way or another. Dont discard or dismiss because they are not ‘tough enough’ or dont fall head over heels for just a ‘hard point shot’ on the power play.

    This team is filling out with so much versatility and flair and skill that PG/JM need to make tough but comprehensively sound decisions re every player NOW.

    Just look at the PHD line. Doesnt that remind you of the excellence of some of the ‘second tier’ lines we had during the 70 great years. You know players like Mondou and Riseborough and Tremblay and Lambert… who served us so well as secondary players and still maintained the skill quotient of the team.

    Well this was sure a RANT. Didnt start out to be … just wanted to cry in my glass about Streit with you.

    While on this rant let me applaud the new (use of ) Gomez. Not as a big number one forward but more like a Carbonneau type forward (which I posted about a week or so ago.). If he can skate and keep the puck as long as he has over last two games I am fine. I wont ever see him as a 7plus mill forward but that’s besides the point now. We have him and if he is used as he is being used now GOOD. I know you are very low on Gomez but his great skating is an ASSET as long as you dont expect huge production from him.

  351. VancouverHab says:

    Wow, that Gomez = Carbo analogy is interesting. Remember when Carbo joined the Habs he was a speedy Russ Courtnal-type forward whom someone (coaches + Gainey) turned into…Carbo. Gomez has at least as much speed as Carbo, and way more vision. He is already a vital shutdown guy for JM — if he develops this even more ….

  352. VancouverHab says:

    Uhhm — so we’ll have swapped Markov for MAB??

    “What is wrong with this picture?”

  353. icemachine says:

    A couple medical friends opined Markov looked to have injured the LCL. Generally take a few weeks loger than ACL to recover

  354. Castor says:

    I have no medical degree and I opine that it’s simply a bad bruise. I also have changed the meaning of opine to something along the lines of ‘hope and pray’

  355. Puck Bard says:

    Here’s hoping the Islanders have a good week…

  356. 23 HABS 23 says:

    It is extremely unfortunate that Markov was injured on a knee on knee with Staal – absolutely unnecessary … but I guess that is just what Staal does.

    On a lighter more positive note … the HABS are Priced” just Right!

    GO HABS GO! (Let’s go get that elusive 25th Stanley Cup!)

  357. Puck Bard says:

    You think that was deliberate? Did you even watch the game?

  358. stephen says:

    Much as I hate to lose Markov, I didn’t see anything wrong with the incident.

    It looked to me like Staal was attempting to ‘jump’ around Markov to get to the puck and in doing so, his knee caught Andrei in a vulnerable spot.

    A freak accident, it seems to me. Just really unfortunate it has happened to one of our best defencemen.

  359. andrewberkshire says:

    Absolutely it was deliberate. You can see Staal hesitate as he realizes Markov has him beat, and he sticks his leg out specifically to slow down or stop Markov. It was a dirty play. If a Hab did it there would be a 20-30 game suspension. No question about that in my mind. That was 100 times worse than what Laraque did to Kronwall last year, at least Laraque was attempting to make a hit, Staal made contact only with his knee.

  360. HabsTrueBlue says:

    “If a Hab did it there would be a 20-30 game suspension” <– I’m not sure if *sigh* or *LOL* is more appropriate. After having time to consider things more rationally do you honestly believe that the NHL is biased and has it out for the Habs?

  361. jimmy shaker says:

    Disagree with your view, but that’s okay. I saw it as another unfortunate play involving Markov yet again. And I don’t want to add further insult to injury, but since Marky has been back, he’s either been playing scared or timid. He looks disingaged or disinterested on the ice and really lacking in intensity and hussle. Not sure if it’s nerves from the first knee injury or just rust physically and mentally. But the bottom line is, if your playing with any sense of timidity, injuries come a callin more often than not. Hoping for a quick recovery for sure though.


  362. andrewberkshire says:

    Has nothing to do with bias against the Habs, just that no Hab is considered a superstar by the NHL, so thus they won’t be treated the same as Eric Staal. Poor wording on my part.

  363. boris420 says:

    Some people understand the game of hockey…you just arent one of those people. Not everyone is against the habs and that was NOT Staals fault. He knew he was beat for the puck and did what he was supposed to: Try to poke check the puck. Markov on the other hand knows he can grab the puck but for some stupid god damn reason decides to try and hit staal as he’s poke checking the puck. Markov is a great player but that was a hell of a stupid decision and will ruin his career as an all-star D. His value just split in half last night. Good luck buddy hope you can bounce back!


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  364. Bill J says:

    Some people have class, and you just aren’t one of those people.  Who are you to judge fellow posters ?

    When so MANY seem to agree with him.

    P.S. Did you actually try and lay some blame on Markov for this injury ?  Really ?  Before judging others hockey knowledge, you may want to look in the mirror a bit.



  365. andrewberkshire says:

    A similar play to that happens every game in hockey, and the player in Staal’s position ALWAYS remembers not to drag the leg. Watch the replay again. Not to mention that Markov doesn’t try to hit Staal, he’s bracing himself to GET hit. Maybe you don’t know as much about hockey as you think you do, Boris.

    As for not understanding the game of hockey, where exactly do you get off? Just because you disagree with my assessment doesn’t mean you have to talk down to me like a ***ing jackass.

  366. HabsFanInTampa says:

    I didn’t watch the feed on RDS or CBC, so I don’t know what you saw or what angle you saw the replays. I was getting the Fox Sports feed fron NHL Center Ice and let me tell you. Staal had his knee out and it was deliberate! Sorry, but that’s what I saw.

  367. LA Loyalist says:

     I’ve been pretty annoyed with Andrew from the Berkshires on this site before, so he’s going to be stunned that I’m defending him.

    And I’m not going to comment on this specific instance – but why can’t we disagree without the personal insults and patronizing tone? Some of us know a lot about hockey and still play, there are a lot of young people on here learning, there are guys posting who were kids when we last won the cup in 93 (which completely freaks me out).

    My point is if you think someone’s argument is specious then explain why. Maybe he’ll counter with something you haven’t thought of, maybe he’ll adjust his position. I’ve changed. I ranted against Rodeo Boy all last year but he’s come through and I acknowledge that. I’ve moved on to ranting against Nowhere Man Nomez.

    There are great posters on here, Serious, the fb… guy, lots of them, it’s fun and keeps our head in the game. But the personal insults are rarely necessary. Yeah it can get heated, when anyone insults Koivu or defends Gomez I go ballistic, but I’m TRYING to do better. We all need to try, or this site is not going to be fun and people will leave and there will be nobody left to see how smart you are :)

  368. LA Loyalist says:

    Jimmy Markov is purely rust. He was out for a long time.

    I’ve had a clean broken ankle (no surgery) and when the cast came off I couldn’t walk to the door without crutches. Muscles atrophy really quickly.

    Miss one week of skating at my level (hockey dads screwing around) and you lose a bit.

    Even for an elite athlete like Markov to get back where he was in terms conditioning is one thing, but to get back his timing, his game radar, his contact reflexes, all that software/ muscle memory stuff is a lot and there is no reason to think his head isn’t fine. It’s smart to come back gradually and make sure everything is working.

    Of course all that is moot, given last night’s events and we are all really discouraged, but I assure you Markov was on his way to being the great player he was. Let’s all pray for whom or wish the best for him in each our own way.


    “The beatings will continue until morale improves.”

  369. jimmy shaker says:

    I did my ACL up real good when I used to play soccer before the children came along, and when I did come back from the surgery and rehab I can honestly say I never wore a brace or even thought about my knee whenever I was going to make a play or a tackle.  Now I know my soccer level vs the NHL is night and day difference but what I am saying is that I competed just as hard when I came back as I did before my injury, and I’m just not seeing it out there from Marky.  I understand and have been fully seeing his rust from the long layoff through his usually pinpoint accurate passes which haven’t been there yet and maybe a mental lapse in judgement here and there which is totally understandable.  My beef is his work ethic and body language out there.  He seems to be just going through the motions and really just floating out there, almost kovalev like at times.  That’s the part that really bothers me.  I know he’s not going to be sharp out there right off the bat, but the work ethic and hussle better be there shift in and shift out.  Is anyone else seeing this from Marky honestly?


  370. andrewberkshire says:

    Not surprised at all, you call it as you see it. Like I said last time we tangled, you’ve always been civil with me, so I respect you.

  371. LA Loyalist says:

    Thank you. This morning’s thread is really discouraging, aside from Markov being hurt. No one here knows anything. We’re not doctors, we don’t have an MRI machine and if we did we couldn’t read it.

    Yet we have opinion and wild speculation being posted as FACT. There are ZERO facts. Everyone has to sit and wait and DEAL.

    Let’s hope it’s a false alarm and he’s only out a few weeks.


  372. andrewberkshire says:

    Agreed 100%. I think the way Markov walked down the tunnel into the dressing room is encouraging. Didn’t look like he was in much pain.

  373. joeybarrie says:



    3 months. Just when we are starting to show the league what we can do with a healthy line up. Its so frustrating.

    Please let it be a bruise…….

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  374. HabFanSince72 says:

    Staal deliberately hit Markov. Check out the video on Boone’s side of the blog.

    Of course he won’t get suspended because he sells tickets in Carolina.

  375. ctony says:

    show of hands… if markov comes back soon, who feels comfortable signing markov to a long term contract?


    and, if we’re not going to re-sign him do you trade him or lose him for nothing after the season?


    pg is in a tough spot 

  376. samTHEman says:

    All depends on the severity of last night’s injury. Is it an ACL tear or strain? It really sucks but if he’s out for a long time than maybe it is a wiser and safer decision to trade him. No hockey club wants to have 6 mil of the cap toward a player who is on the IR. From a club perspective, it wouldn’t be a bad move by PG. You’re right he is in a very tough spot concerning Markov. He has to choose, and he’s shown that he can (need I point it out? Lol).

    But it’s absolutely out of question to let him walk for nothing. Would be losing too much. We’ve done that enough with Streit, Souray, Ribeiro, Kovalev, Koivu…etc.

    I don’t want him to be traded. He’s still our top Dman and QB on the PP. He was finally finding his synch. To whoever said Markov looked uninterested out there, you couldn’t be more wrong. He does all the small things that make him the excellent Dman he is. People don’t notice.

  377. observer says:

    if injury is bad he will not be able to play and in either case every team’s value of what theyd give up for him or pay him next year would also drastically drop. picard is a #6 defenseman on a team. if markov is indeed out for a good while habs must trade to improve the top 4 on the defense. obyrre, picard or bergeron types arent even close.

  378. Danno says:

    RDS, like many media
    outlets are basing their assessment on pure speculation. They just want
    to scoop a story that isn’t confirmed yet.

    The clip I posted on Dennis Kane’s Excellent Montreal Canadiens Blog is far more revealing and shows that Markov may not be a badly injured as some are fearing. Take a look near the end and you will see what I mean.

    the one minute mark of the clip Markov stumbles getting off the ice,
    but watch further on — he does put weight on his right leg walking down
    the hall towards the dressing room.


    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  379. Tyg says:

    Thanks for the link Danno, and I love your optimism, but I’m near the
    end of my rope with Markov spending more time on the IR than on the ice
    for the Habs. It’s like I expect him to get injured now. He’s got some
    ugly kind of jinx going when it comes to his health.

    I really hope
    you’re right, and it’s not all that serious this time. But if it is, I
    don’t want PG locking him up long-term at the end of this season.


  380. Hobie Hansen says:

    Great win but if Andrei Markov’s knee is messed up again the
    win came at a horrible cost. Markov is the one player on the Habs, and possibly
    Carey Price, that tilts the scale in Montreal’s favour. He lifts the Habs’ from
    a team that should probably make the playoffs to a team that could possibly win
    the Stanley Cup. Once our star defenseman got his game back to a high level
    about four games ago the Canadiens have looked impressively dangerous.   He’s
    the difference maker on this team’s defence and you’ve got to hope things
    looked worse than they turn out to be.   

  381. jimmy shaker says:

    I’ve still been waiting for his game to come back.  I don’t or haven’t seen him play the way he did before he got hurt, and disagree with your view of him being back at a high level.  I’m fine with him being out again, the boys actually did pretty well without him.  I think Picard will come in and be fine and probably even MAB as well.  But, yes I’m dissapointed about Marky being hurt again, but actually still feel good about the team moving forward in the season.  Marky will be our big acquisition come trade deadline day and we won’t even have to give up anything for him is how I’m seeing this whole mess.


  382. Pat8987 says:

    I think Markov is a great defensemen (top 10 in league for sure), however if this is another long-term injury PLEASE DON’T SIGN HIM!!!


    Sure, he helps when in the line-up but I would much rather spend the money on more of a dominant two-way defence let’s say someone like Shea Webber

  383. matraque says:

    You guys can say whatever you want, but Markov injury is SERIOUS.  We are talking MONTHS here.

    Good thing we have Picard… He’s no Markov, but he’s far superior to O’Byrne.


    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard

  384. Bryan says:

    And you know this, how?

    No one knows anything right now.  Wait for the MRI.


    The Habs are making me slightly less bi-polar.

  385. Mattyleg says:

    Thank God there’s a doctor on this site who can tell us exactly what is going on!

    Thank you, Matraque, for finally setting things straight!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  386. matraque says:

    You guys just wait…

    He had the exact same reaction of the Cooke hit.  To top it all, he punched the board in frustration.  This cannot be good.  But you guys are free to think what you want.


    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard

  387. Sith says:

    3 months?? pffft. Knee to knee contact. He should be out for 6 to 8 weeks, unless he requires surgery.


  388. Storm Man says:

    If AM79 felt a pop in his knee….. He is done. :(

  389. Mattyleg says:

    Great game last night, good to see us playing with confidence, some slumpers breaking their eggs…

    Feel terrible for Markov, you could see how pissed off he was. Hopefully it won’t be too long.

    Spatch played a great game, I thought. Definitely his strongest this year, and apart from a few brain-dead moments, Gomer didn’t look too bad.

    Price was amazing. Just amazing. He’s been fantastic, and I’m glad we held on to him.

    Oh, and I hate Carolina too. Williams, now Staal… they’re a pack of a$$-burners, and they should never have left Hartford, where they were a loveable bunch of non-contenders.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  390. careyprice says:

    So many positives in this game but it is still bothering me just thinking about losing Markov. 

    Carey Price was solid as usual, Tomas had a very solid game, and what can you say about that goal by Lapierre.

    Have to feel bad for Carolina though, 15 goals allowed in the last 2 games, YIKES.

    Oh, and NHL First Star of the Week for Carey? You have to think so…

    3 GP, 3-0-0, 1.00 GA, .972 SV%, 1 SO!

  391. rocketsglare says:

    The Habs attacked the net all night long and were rewarded with 7 beautiful goals. Good things happen

    when you attack the net constantly and decidedly. Carolina had no answer for the Habs rushes as the

    speed of the team overwhelmed the Carolina D. This is the type of game the Habs should excel in and

    last night was an example that speed coupled with skill and grit is a deadly and winning strategy. Give

    me more of this type of play. It’s not only exciting but beautiful to watch.


    Go Habs Go!

  392. Xtrahabsfan says:

    It’s in the N.H.L. hand book …To beat the Habs : 1) First off ,don’t do anything until about 20 game into the season,so as to make sure the Habs management feels their on the right track ,finally? 2) WHEN SCORING ON  Price  ….a)cross ice pass and shoot high..b) Go for the smaller older players on the Habs …start with Markov and take his knee’s out c) uses your bigger players to take over puck possession  forcing the Habs into a perimeter style and forcing them to shoot from the point(no point shot) d) Apply your big forwards to take control of the Habs smaller D….. E) AND TO FACILITATE ALL THIS  BEAT UP SOME HABS IN THE FIRST PERIOD!   Theirs your pre-view for the Philly game …nothing changes…Go Habs Go

  393. Corio says:

    Markov is cursed! so brutal..

  394. mchab33 says:

    Most people were saying the same before the Boston game. 

  395. Xtrahabsfan says:

    You must a tape worm which explains  why your mouth is allways in your arse !

  396. habs365 says:

    they don’t stop the war if a soldier is injuried ….they soldier on….and that’s what the habs gotta do….hey we know markov is a big part of this team….what happened—-happened….you can blame whom ever you want….it won’t change anything….injuries happen and sometimes it may cause a player his career….Bobby orr is a good example and he was the best defenseman ever….so lets get ready for philly tomorrow night.

  397. habaddict_andy says:

    There was no jumping in this incident. He kept both leg on ice.

    Scott Gomez to Montreal Media “You’re a pain in the neck, but you’re our pain in the neck.”

  398. Bryan says:

    So you’re basing the severity of his injury on his reaction?

    You could be right.  It could be serious. But the point is you don’t know.  Neither does RDS.  Neither does any blogger out there looking for an early scoop.  We know nothing until the MRI.


    The Habs are making me slightly less bi-polar.

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