Canadiens goalie Carey Price keep a close eye on a bouncing puck.
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• AUDIO: Jacques Martin | Brian Gionta | Mike Cammalleri | Mathieu Darche
• At a Glance: The Canadiens returned home from their 3-2
Friday night victory over the Sabres in Buffalo,
hoping to win their ninth game in 14 matches. But then, they hadn’t counted on
former Hab Alex Kovalev bringing his A game to the Bell Centre. Kovalev scored
twice, bringing him to within three points of the 1,000 mark, to carry the
Ottawa Senators to a 3-2 win over Montreal.
Kovalev, voted the game’s first star, got the visitors on the scoreboard first with a shot that glanced in
off him at 17:50 of the first period, eluding the stop of the 28-save Carey
Price in the Habs net. Then Zack Smith, called up from Binghamton earlier in the day, made it 2-0 at
12:15 of the second. The Senators’ checking, and the Canadiens inability to
mount much in the way of offence, didn’t augur well for the home team. But
Jaroslav Spacek finally beat Brian Elliott with a slapper from the blue line at
18:39, his first goal of the season a shot tipped in by an Ottawa defender. Kovalev made it 3-1 at 6:42
of the third with Spacek serving a minor for interference before Canadiens captain Brian
Gionta bagged his long-awaited second of the year at 15:53 to close out the
scoring.
• Key Moments: Bad, untimely penalties taken by the undisciplined Canadiens killed any momentum they night have generated. And Senators goalie Elliott was solid
throughout, making 21 saves to improve Ottawa’s
record to 7-6-1.
• What It Means: The Canadiens are now 8-5-1, their home
record at 3-3-1. Montreal has lost three of its last four games and is struggling offensively, having scored just five goals in those four.
• What’s Next: The Canadiens are home Tuesday to the
Vancouver Canucks, head to Boston for a Thursday date against Tim Thomas’s
Boston Bruins, then finish up their week next Saturday at the Bell Centre
against the Carolina Hurricanes.
Is Pat Hickey’s Honda part of the $25 all-you-can-carry deal?
2) By “played well” do you mean on the ice for both Buffalo goals?
Time to divorce G-G pair, seriously.
Please don’t forget that it was a preseason game. I don’t think Desharnais would do well in the NHL.
Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat.
Exactly, right or wrong, he made a split second decision. Sometimes, we just have to accept it and move on.
“Let the young players keep making their mistakes, that’s how they learn.”
We talked a bit on this topic on another thread. Do you really see it as “keep making mistakes,” or is it more like “one and done”? Just asking.
Eller does not look NHL ready and while thats disappointing you can clearly see the potential in him being a key player for the habs down the road , That being said we should send him to hamilton and let him get his confidence back . The next thing we should do and i gotta say it’s the right thing to do is bring up Desharnais. The guy lit up the AHL last year and he is on pace to do it again , we need players who can produce offense and this guy can. I still remember that game against Pitt last season where Desharnais and his line-mates were dominant. In his stint with the big club he created a few very good chances every game! He is small and we may not need another small player and yes he is a centre and we have a surplus of those, but i think we have to put him somewhere in the lineup.
I was also thinking that I saw some nice moves which reminded me of Pleks. Right or wrong, I think this is just the way that Montreal generally develops players. Subban is an exception as he is getting lots of time and responsibility, but he did spend a year apprenticing down there, so he’s not a complete exception. Some players do well when handled like this, and others don’t — quite a few as a matter of fact.
Good post. I said something similar on the ALN thread about JM’s handling of both Pouliot and Eller. I’m tired of this line that’s constantly trotted out that JM ruins young players. As far as I can see, the evidence for it is slim to non-existent. And I don’t see how it benefits a young player to keep being put back into situations where he makes mistakes; yet that’s what people seem to be demanding. Let the young players keep making their mistakes, that’s how they learn. Never mind if they make us lose games we could otherwise win, never mind if their confidence and morale slump because they know they’re costing us points. I think JM is being careful with both Eller and Pouliot, not putting too much pressure on them and trying to use them in situations where they can mostly be successful. I think they will gain more confidence from this than from repeatedly being put in situations where they’re likely to make costly mistakes.
Besides, the Canadiens are not a development team; they’re in the business of winning hockey games. Players are supposed to be developed at the lower levels. When they arrive in Montreal, they should be more-or-less NHL ready, although most still need easing into the game. I think that’s what JM is trying to do; I also think he’s doing it well.
Because then the Habs are paying 13$Million to 3rd liners, who DO have talent to be 2nd liners.
Not to mention the mind game you play with “these players”.
The team will be great IF Pouliot can merge with G&G again, AK46 is doing his part, I was simply proposing the above line combo to get G&G rolling again. Then move Camm back to Pleks & AK46, & Pouliot to G&G.
Halpern & Darche have been awesome, but Pouliot can easily be replaced by Boyd for a great 3rd line.
Another “more positive” spin on it.
The team is winning despite G&G’s failures.
So WHEN (and let’s be fair and at least recognize they will get back on track) they get back on track, the team will only be better for it.
Markov has been invisible since his return as well, just saying. Sometimes it takes a bit of time to get things clicking. If the team is winning despite this, I am not too concerned.
Will johnny…I’ll tell ya the way i look at it…it’s pretty bad when a player is making $8,000,000 a year and his winger is making $5,000,000 a year and they’re looking for a player to come along and get them scoring…I would be telling the coach don’t mention things like that in your interviews…just say we’re in a slump right now and we’ll get ourselves out of it…guess you don’t feel shame when you’re getting the big dollars…I don’t know how molson’s can cut a check for them…oh well they’re only letting their team down…
Yeah, baby!
(sigh)
Not gonna happen.
Spuriously furious, I swear as
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ummmm anybody hear whats going on in philly today
yeah i dont see any problems with this genius idea… then again riots can be fun
I’m generally not partial to François Gagnon. I think he’s a blowhard, which is forgiveable, and a hack, which isn’t. That’s just my opinion, mind, and not the Truth of All Things.
However, I must agree with him on one point, and that’s that Eller should AT LEAST have as many points as Halak has shutouts. He’s 1-3 behind at the moment.
Spuriously furious, I swear as
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It led to a goal…and gomez isn’t alone with the fault, Gio should have shot it, Ak fumbled in the corner, spacek tried to be pele at the blueline and price was swan diving….but it is no diff thenny other turnover at the other blueline, or a bad penalty that leads to a goal agaisnt…ultimately what started it was gomez not driving the net. I am a self confessed gomez contract basher and gainey in that deal basher but I have repeatedly said I like what i see of gomez and Ak…i think that will work…but that play…brutal…just brutal
In his first shift he made a brutal turnover inside the offensive blueline, led to a couple sabre scoring chances mand a long ustained attack agaisnt….given his age, the chance to play with Cammi,etc it probably was about the worst possible case scenario for his confidence…however, with Pleks back I think he can excel on that line. He had another weak play where he should have dumped it in, also had a blown cov’g and that was pretty well all she wrote for him. He never stopped playing hard though and that is very important to note….the desire s there, the talent is there…it iwll work out. If Pleks is back and he goes on the wing, does what he did against Columbus in the late stages he’ll be fine. Eller is the real deal and I like his game….this is unfortunately what JM does…he has a zero tolerance policy for kids making mistakes….I don’t agree with it but it is what it is.
Anyone else find Lapierre useless last night?….
He was invisible. And has been for a few weeks.
Why does this kid only play well in MTL?
“These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack
I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.
Well, maybe he didn’t realize how much time he had….
And can you blame Gomez for that? The game, and that play in particular, are played at a very high speed. If he see’s a replay, maybe he regrets doing that play and see’s that he did have time….
But, in the end he made a good play. He figured going on a partial breakaway wasn’t the smart move. So he chose option B, and he nailed it. Gionta didn’t do the finishing, and you can’t slam Gomez for that.
In the end, I’m happy that he at least found a way to make a better play for that situation, in his eyes.
Isn’t that enough, why do we need to bash Gomez for that? His bad contract?
“These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack
I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.
You could have said that about Pouliot last year, and this year too…
Benny’s been benched often, some games playing less than 8 minutes. And then, you have games like last night where he’s gonna be your best forward, and show flashes of develloping.
That’s how JM coaches, he goes with who’s hot. Like it or not, but it’s been winning us more games than any other coach in the past 15 years.
Players like Benny and Lars will not devellop in 1 game. They won’t in 1 or 2 years either. These are humans who will probably take 3 years to reach their full stride, something JM knows having been around for years.
So, there’s no need to play Eller 20 minutes last night. That one game wasn’t gonna make or break his career. And it wasn’t gonna justify the Halak trade. If that’s why people are pissed at JM, it’s wrong. He shouldn’t have to play Eller all night long just so that Halak fans can say we got something for him.
Eller’s gonna have a nice career. Let him grow, please. The kid’s 20 years old. Remember how immature we all were at 20?
JM’s using him in situations that favor his development and in situations where he knows Eller feels comfortable.
Time please, time.
“These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack
I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.
Bench Nomez and bring up Desharnais.
Kinda hard to tell if he says net or nyet…..
Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat.
Oh and the third line was sweet, obviously.
Some of my observations from last night:
1) Price was incredible and has been consistent all season
2) The Gomez line played well and had several chances to score, just couldn’t put the puck in the net
3) Gomez ad AK make a great team with G’s passing and AK’s one-timer
4) Cammy had a great game. Had 5 or 6 quality scoring chances but couldn’t put it in either. I like him on the point on the PP
5) D played well and had very few turnovers.
6) We need to take less penalties even though our PK is great.
I go to net. I get rebound. I score goal for Montrreal.
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It was not a smart play, he is a great skarter, especially off the hop and would have had a breakaway and most likely could have gotten a good shot off…at the very least he drives the net, stil takes that defender with him and still has the option of Gio trailing…..and they are closer at the same time…..there is no way around it….that play was a lack of self confidence….scott gomez may actually be the only player in the game that makes that play…..there is being a passer and being a passer upper…..and he passed us a great chance. Maybe he didn;t realize how much time he had? no matter how you slice it if he saw the replay I am sure he would say he should have driven the net….and he would not think it was a smart play. We hear over and over, get pucks to the net, get pucks to the net….well that was a partial friggin breakaway and maybe a full one give his speed…it was the furthest thing from a smart play…I still like what I see from him and AK though….Gomez seems to have chemistry with him
Love that 3rd line!
Cammy gonna get 1 or 2 tonight!
“Shoot……puck……net..”
“These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack
I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.
He played 8 mins last night, the night he was promoted to first or second line centre, whatever however you wanna number these lines. 8 mins is the lowest on the team. JM is basically destroying confidence in this kid. Imagine at work, getting a raise, then them cutting your hours in half? how would you feel.
Honestly, the kids in this organization as a whle have to go to Molson and tell them how bad our player development is, Gauthier and JM BOTH NEED TO GO.
I know what you’re saying…
But Gomez is a 10 year veteran. He’s been in those situations before. He knows that the odds are he won’t get a great shot on net, and he can create a better scoring chance by doing what he did last night.
If you ask me, he read that play perfectly. Gionta’s the one who got too greedy and didn’t take the shot that was given to him when he was all alone in the slot. He wanted to get closer to the net, and in the end got nothing. BUF actually came back to score on that same shift.
So, I can’t smash Gomez for that play. I’m not his biggest fan, but that play was a very smart one.
“These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack
I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.
One month ago, if somebody had told you that Brother Andrei would be put on a line to try to get the other guys going, what would you have said?
100% Agreed. I love his effort and positive attitude despite not getting on the scoresheet all but once.
You hear people say that the NHL is for performing, for winning. It’s not made to develop. You develop in the AHL. I think that’s so wrong. Pleks is a perfect example of a player who evolved and matured at the NHL level. Why? Because he got 3 full seasons in Hamilton. He dominated at that level and now he’s dominating up with the big club. That’s the way it goes.
I’m not worried for Eller. He’s got a great head on his shoulders.
You’re right. I thought about that too Mike. The thing is I still think rushing to the net is the right play. Don’t forget Gomez is one of the fastest skaters on our team. I was so damn pissed when that happened. It’s more Gio’s fault than Gomez i’ll give you that. He should of shot right away and AK should of crashed the net.
Cmon…keep things simple. Stop playing around the perimeter and attack the net. Good things happen when you shoot. It can deflect on a skate, a teammates stick, an opponent’s stick, the goalie’s chest, the goalie’s pads. CRASH the net and look for the rebound! Get in the goalie’s way. Bother him. Although be careful with Brodeur as he tends to dive…god I hate him with such a HUGE PASSION. I can’t explain it in words.
Why not:
Cammalleri – Plekanec – AK
Pouliot – Halpern – Darche
Plant G&G in 3rd spot until they show the same type of hunger for the puck as the line that scored all 3 goals last night does…
I think he’s going to be a star in the league, I was at the jackets game and when JM moved him up, he really responded!!!
With Pouliot hitting his stride. I kinda would like to see these two lines as the top two in the near future – just to see how well it would work.
Cammalleri – Gomez – Gionta
Pouliot – Plekanec – AK46
Oookay…
I got into an argument with my buddy regarding the Gomez play last night.
He ended up agreeing with me in the end. So see if you can too:
Why are we blaming Gomez for that play. If you ask me it was a very, very smart play. When he got the puck, he had a very small chance of going on a full breakaway or taking it to the net without being obstructed by the oncoming defenseman. It looked like a perfect breakaway, but it wasn’t. So, he saw Gio coming and perfectly attracted the d-man to him, thus making Gio perfectly open for the pass in the slot. When Gio got the pass, he was on a mini 2 on 1, and actually had an excellent shot from the slot. Problem is, he didn’t take it.
So, it’s Gionta’s fault. Not Gomez, but Gionta’s fault.
Gomez could have taken the puck and shot it once the d-man got to him. It would have been a so-so scoring chance, probably wasted if he misses the net. So, he played the odds and figured it would be best to give it to Gio who would have more time to shoot and a better angle. That’s a very smart and unselfish play.
So why is Gomez getting blamed for Gionta not taking a shot? Gio’s the one who made the poor decision not to shoot when he had a clear lane in the slot.
Are we gonna blame Gomez for everything just because of his contract? If Gionta misses chances like that every game, due to his own poor judgement, are we still gonna blame Gomez because of his contract?
I’m sorry, but IMO Gomez did the right play. He quickly looked at the situation he was in, and figured a better scoring chance would occur if he gave it to Gio, who was rushing into the zone with speed.
Gomez should not be blamed for a smart play.
“These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack
I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.
I think JM should put the 1st line back together…after last night I think we have found the right two players to play along side pouliot…now we have two scoring lines…the second line throw moen with them and let them sort it out themselves… if they wanna look like fools all year so it be…the fourth line put the kids together Eller Lapierre Pyatt/Boyd and let them have fun and they just may surprise by playoff time…at least the whole team will get use to playing together and what ever becomes of it…it will be the best Jm can do…this moving players around every game they will never gel…JM has to realize there’s not many options on this team…
Carey you’re the best…after last night they’re should be no more doubters in montreal…the third line was great…along with you carey…you guys won the game….
I’d like you all to take a very good look at Eller tonight….
Watch the way he plays. His work ethic, his speed, and his tenacity. The results aren’t there, they’re actually poor. No goals, nothing. But, I’d like to swing back time a little, and remind you all of one player who reminds me alot of Eller; Tomas Pleks.
Remember when he first came into the league?
He played the same game. Pleks was actually lucky to be older when he stepped into MTL, and was more used to the North American style of hockey.
But, when I watch Eller struggling, it remeinds me of when Pleks 1st broke into the league. When they both can’t find the back of the net, they’re still giving 100%. There’s no option to give 90% and use excuses, it’s 100 or nothing. You’ll see them both skating hard all the time, and trying to make a difference.
Remember when Lats, Dags, Chips, and all the other young players used to struggle? They’d all take shifts off, they’d pout, and they wouldn’t give that extra effort to get out of the slump or doghouse.
Well, I’m encouraged to see that Eller is more like Pleks. He won’t have the best season this year, and he will probably still not score more that 40 pts next year. But I’ll tell you one thing; Once he gets the wheels rolling, he will be a treat to watch.
The same way we enjoy Pleks, I can see the same for Lars.
“These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack
I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.
Oh no!! Price didn’t get a shut-out last night. Why, oh why did we not trade him when we had the chance.
Gomez was awful. Check out the highlights. He was on a breakaway on one point, with the lane wide open towards Lalime at the Sabres blue line. I guess he felt the D-man was catching up, or his lack of confidence, or his fat contract? lol joke, anyways…. he made no effort to even try. Instead, he turns to the left, controls the puck, waits for Gio then dishes it to him, who then holds on the puck way too long instead of shooting, then gives it to AK out of hesitation who wasn’t expecting the puck, who in turn loses it and the Sabres get a 3 on 1 and score.
Was at the Hamilton game last nice. Great game. More exciting than the score indicates. Last two goals for the Bulldogs were empty netters. Ryan White should play for the Habs. Guy works hard every shift.
Didn’t see the habs game except for the highlights but it looks like the mixed lineup didn’t work well for the top two lines. How were the new D pairings?
My morning notes:
1. Hamilton defeated the Sens at the Bell centre 5-2 last night. Perhaps a preview of tonight? =)
2. How about all the question marks surrounding AK, Pouliot and even Halpern’s signing. The 3 of them are among the top 4 scorers leading the team with Pleky. Anything can happen in hockey.That’s right, ANYTHING. Gomez can score goals! Although I’m a bit weary on that one.
3. If Pleky is playing tonight, I’d like to see our 1st line back. Better have 2 lines working (APC and PHD). Put Eller on the wing with Gomez & Gio (sigh…what a hopeless case Gomez is) and interchange Andrei and Eller through those lines.
4. Are you all ready to own the SENS TONIGHT??????????
Thanks Dawg!
Thanks and good work with the Bob Barker classic.
Good eyes Danno, kinda hard to see him, but it’s from the picture of price standing in from of his net with the spotlight on him. The photo came out earlier this year.
gagnon is just doing what he thinks is best for his own career same as mcguire is doing.
Are the schedules still done in 3 year bunches? As in… is this the 3rd year of this bunch?
The world has returned to its normal axis; start of the season the laffs were winning and LALA was visible now the stars are aligned, the Laffs are as expected loosing and LALA has ducked under the camoflage supplied by the media who keep him on the team!
“The three stars as selected by Red Fisher of the Montreal Star:
1st star: Henri Richard
2nd Star: Doug Harvey
3rd Star: Jacques Plante
Final score Detroit Red Wings 5 Montreal Canadiens 3″
Finally got back, and you probably won’t by now. Anyway, I have a feeling that they are doing okay with Eller and that Eller is okay with it. I think their plan is to ease him in, and I don’t have a problem with it. With Pac, I don’t think there was a plan or a good one — just a hope. He played, he went down, he came up, he went down.
So everyone is a fool but you? FYI – I can read. Figured that out a while back.
Seems to be suggesting just that. That, of course, is nonsense. Russ C was definitely faster but . . . . .
Anyone know the status of Plex’s illness for tonight?
DP
MAB really? Were you dropped on your head recently?
iHeart, about your avatar, the letter “I” in Price, is that a small image of him?
“Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
Kostitsyn
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Listen to the SmartDog. He knows his poop!
Third weekend out of four against the Senators. Boring.
But thanks Habs for winning on my birthday yesterday, had a blast serenading some Buffalonians. And its also nice you can go to an arena, and not have to pay 12, 15, or 20 dollars for a flippin beer. 6 bux for tall boys! Take note ACC, and Mama Bell. Not that you will. Nor care with your capitalistic ways.
BUT why then didn’t you see Gomez busting his tail to get back and recover — he crashed into his own net just missing having caught up the rush on time.
THAT’s the hard work …. (off a turnover that he was hardly ‘at fault’ for.)
last time I checked, both teams share the same ice
I like your avatar… Penguin = Iceberg = Priceberg?
Combination for success: 46-14-13
you have to keep something in mind, certain hockey markets have traditional nights they prefer to schedule their games around
for instance, montreal’s got a lot of tuesday games
buffalo is keen on friday nights
and all canadian teams gun for saturday nights
meaning.; any canadian team that is going to play in buffalo, on a friday, they are probably going to play the next day as well
this isnt entirely the nhl’s doing
Nice…
While it’s hard to book arena’s due to concerts and other events like Monster Truck BS and Dog Competitons, the NHL still manages to do a poor job on their end.
Hockey as a sport, and the NHL, is the only league in the world that all stadiums/arenas must have closed roofs. Yet, they still manage to have very, very poor ice conditions on most nights.
In a sport where a single powerplay and/or shootout can decide your playoff fate, the ice conditions better not affect the outcome of the game.
That’s something the NHL can regulate. Make sure that all arenas are not being used for other events the night before.
But wtv, it’s Saturday afternoon and I wanna b*tch just like you…
“These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack
I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.
okay im unhappy with this gomez guy as well but are you suggesting he isnt fast?
Only Russ courtnall was fast.
It’s all hilarious until I think of who else we could get for that $7.5 mil
You are surely a wit on the order of Dorothy Parker or Oscar Wilde.
Is that all you can bring?
“To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”
Dear NHL Schedulers,
I would like to begin by thanking you for doing such a wonderful job. It must be extremely difficult to schedule games in today’s NHL, where some teams play each other 3 times in a month, and other teams not at all over the course of the season.
I would like to thank you for this work, which ensures that teams do not get ‘easy’ points by playing many times against other teams which may not be as strong, or, dare I say it, “extremely weak”. I’m very happy that the Southeast Division, for example, ensures that teams like the Washington Capitals play many games against the Florida Panthers or the Carolina Hurricane, and ensure a stress-free path to the Conference Title. I’m glad that you have kept up the kind of fine scheduling you have done since the days that Detroit played countless games against Columbus, St. Louis, Nashville and Chicago for President’s Trophy after President’s Trophy.
Finally, to my point. I would like to wholeheartedly thank you from the bottom of the deep well of emotion I call “my heart”, for the two back-to-back games the Montreal Canadiens have played in the past two weekends, and the 4-games-in-6-days schedule you saw fit to dole out to our boys in the bleu-blanc-rouge. Well done. There is no way that teams can be expected to win all of those games under those conditions, and I see your wonderful scheduling as yet another ‘doff of the hat’ to PARITY. The watchword of the NHL, which some people (horrible though they are) call ‘reduction to lowest common denominator’.
Thanks again, NHL Schedulers, whoever you may be. You will always have this fan’s pride deep in the snugness of your vest pockets. If a team can’t win an ‘ambush game’ (did you know that’s what they call a game that you arrive home to play and the other team is already waiting for you, having practised and slept soundly while you were out in some godforsaken place like Raleigh banging out a meaningless 2 points against a team that will fold before the decade’s out, in front of 5,000 fans who thought that the Monster Truck Rally was supposed to be this weekend, but now that they’ve spent more money on tacos and caps and extra-giant sodas, they might as well stay and watch?) then they don’t deserve to win squat.
Yours with dripping adulation,
Mattyleg
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Great meeting you all last night, have a great time at the dinner!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
To all Summiteers,
Enjoy the city you lucky b@st@rds! May you bring good luck to our habs tonights! And don’t forget to tip the ladies generously!
I would be first in line for the riot if they were 4-8-1… but that would probably confuse a few people since I live in Vancouver now.
8-4-1. If it was 4-8-1, the struggles of Gomez and others would be magnified.
Hi guys, Just heading to the Baton Rouge for the Bob Gainey Raffle and dinner. The new Hall Of Fame tour was fantastic.
Lots of new people here this year, fun putting faces to posters from this great site.
Pictures of the summit on here in a few days.
He has become predictable hasn’t he… actually the Gomez rush reminds me of Russ Courtnall back in the day.
Since we are talking about kick starts - what’s with Lapierre these days? I think we’ve been quite easy on the guy lately. It’s not like he’s been visible these days either. Maybe a pairing with Gomez and Eller will do him some good too.
Well, Eller made several mistakes in the Ottawa game a few weeks ago, and krob pointed out his mistakes early in last night’s game. I think young, inexperienced players generally make a lot of mistakes until they’ve adjusted to the speed of the NHL. Even budding superstars have to make an adjustment; in their case, the transition is smoother and the jump from the AHL to the NHL not as great as for most players. Of course development continues once a player reaches the NHL. We saw it in the case of Plekanec, and we’ll likely see a similar trajectory for Eller. It just takes time, and to me it makes sense for a coach to ease the rookies into the game and give them the amount of responsibility they can handle comfortably. since success is all about confidence.
Agree ,even better what if Price playing like he is now ,was with Philly or St.Louis at 22 years old .
Max Pac has three goals in 11 games in the AHL this season; what would he know about top-six forward development?
While I agree that Halak is the better goaltender right now, would still having him in the lineup be enough to win a Cup this season? I don’t think that the rest of the team is good enough yet. We still need a large centre with skill and another top-six scorer, preferably also a large man with skill.
If we had those two forwards with Price in net and the rest of the lineup intact, I think we would be a real threat. I regret that we didn’t get one of our missing forwards in exchange for Halak or Price. I wonder if Philadelphia would have given up Carter for Halak/Price and others? We’ll never know.
Congratulations to Montrealer Jonathan Duhamel who will enter the final two of the World Series of Poker main event with a staggering 6 to 1 chip lead.
Should he hold on for the victory he will be the first ever Canadian to claim the main event title.
G&G should break up is dumb, dumb, dumb. Everybody should have patience ’cause Gionta can score fine. But breaking up the first line of Cammalleri, Plekanec, and Kostitsyn is really just brutal.
And it’s not the end of the world if they lost after they won the game before. They win some, you lose some. Big deal.
And I wonder, whoever on the team is most tired (more probably the D, in my opinion), why don’t they bring in rested players like Picard or O’Byrne, and maybe someone from the Bulldogs’ house. They can play more energy like they want to be in the big league, that’s the trick.
Next game is the Canucks, right? One thing they should do when facing Roberto: shoot him. A lot!!!
We scored two goals against the Sens and still lost … The Blues scored two goals (in OT) and won against the Bruins. To all those who say that goaltending is not the problem in Montreal:
Goaltending may not be the problem, but a good goaltender may very well be the solution!
Headline this morning reads Kovalev bury cadaniens, should read Gill bury canadiens, on the ice again for 2 or was 3 goals. After following this team for 60 plus years , have never seen a more confused team lead by a confused coach. Gill gotta be the worse defenceman in the league, why not use obyrne and picard, they couldnt possibly make more mistakes than Gill , and would learn as they go along, and what have Markov done since his return, gave away the puck in his one end with the goalie out in the last minute, recovered it, then made a bonehead move by icing it.— amazing! Those guys can make mistake after mistake and still martin gives them maxium ice time. Gonna be a long frustrating year.
come on now Price has played great………………….. st louis may have a better overall team than us, don’t discount this. The only questioning I am going to do about the trade is whether we got enough in return for Halak.
I went to school with his sister. He’s one lucky @$$. 1st place 9 million…he’s already guaranteed what, 800k?
He lives in Boucherville…….=) =) =)
if someone could inform me on the Gomez situation I don’t know much about his contract and the rules that go with it
How much longer do we have?
What are the repersussions of breaking his contract? How could that happen?
Do you think Montreal made a promiss to their free agents signings that they would not get traded out of Montreal if signed?
Should have added, Price dont stand a chane with the D he has in front of him, If it wasnt for Price they would have been bombed both friday and saturday.
Steve Simmon’s Sunday Rant …………………………
– Few players in history have impacted teams the way Chris Pronger has. He started poorly and so did the Philadelphia Flyers. Now he’s playing well and the Flyers are winning. Where he goes, teams win ………………. I happen to think Joe Nieuwendyk, Doug Gilmour and Mark Howe are more deserving to be in the Hall than Dino Ciccarelli, but in a game where scoring means so much, you can’t underrate the 608 goals he scored. Ciccarelli belongs, just not before Gilmour, Howe or Nieuwendyk ……………………. If Tomas Kaberle is the power-play expert he is purported to be, why have the Leafs never been above 19% with the man advantage post-lockout ………………………… Last year, Tuukka Rask couldn’t lose and Tim Thomas couldn’t win. This year, role reversal … Vesa Toskala didn’t block as many shots as the Boston Bruins players do …………………………………….. And the rest of Simmon’s Sports article … http://www.torontosun.com/sports/columnists/steve_simmons/2010/11/07/16011536.html
$5 million.
He’s got 180,000,000 in chips and John Racener has 30,000,000.
It’s down to the final two.
Watched it last night. Amazing action.
One of the final hands was the biggest pot in WSOP history.
Joseph Cheong went all-in with A7 and Duhamel called with QQ.
The queens held up and it sent Cheong to the short stack with 10,000,000 at the time. The pot was for over $170 million.
Dino Cicarelli’s accomplishments can’t be ignored when you consider that he came into the league as a fighter.
Sorry, Gilmore’s of the ice antics in St Louis should keep him out of the “hall”.
Bullspit.
Would you like some stories about Rob Blake and Joe Sakic?
They’re in the same company.
How about Bobby Hull?
The behaviour of a player off the ice should have nothing to do with his consideration for the hall of fame.
Gonna tell me Pete Rose shouldn’t be in the baseball hall of fame.
Price has played well but not nearly as well as Halak did last year.
MY TEAM does not include this coach or GM.
Bucky Gleason’s Inside the NHL (Tidbits).
– Dustin Byfuglien has had no problems moving back to defense with Atlanta after he had 16 points in 22 playoff games last season as a forward for Chicago. The 6-foot-5, 265-pounder had five goals and 12 points in his first 13 games and was tied for the scoring lead on a Thrashers team averaging three goals per game.
– Capitals veteran Mike Knuble had just four points and skated into the weekend looking for his first goal since the opener. “I’m extremely frustrated with my start to the season. I’m very, very disappointed,” Knuble said. “If it was this point last year, people would be asking: ‘What the hell did we sign this guy for?’‚”
– Read more … http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/columns/bucky-gleason/article244287.ece
The salaries that are killing us are those of Hamrlik and Spacek.
Last night one player was the first star of a win, and a vezina favorite, and the other a heatlthy scratch in a loss… You have the answer
Long term though Eller is a promising prospect. Lets not forget he’s only played 20 or so games in the NHL
- Guy Lafleur smoked between periods. Did smoking give him the relaxation he craved before scoring so many goals?
Maybe Plekanec wasn`t feeling 100% yesterday, and Gomez started the game with the big guns on the first line?
I thought he played better yesterday, at least he had a few SOGs
gill looked great in the playoffs, didn’t he? worst thing that could have happened to the habs. now they think he can actually play good hockey. we should all know by now that the only reason the habs had a good playoff run last year was because halak stood on his head. and, yes, gill did end up looking like a much better hockey player than he really is only because the caps and pens were too dumb to realize that they should have skated around gill instead of shooting pucks over and over right at the big turtle. i know many 10 year olds who can skate circles around this useless piece of crap. this big pussy should never have been an nhler. GILL absolutely SUCKS!!!!!!
I hope I’m not the only one scratching his head over the broadcasting of poker on sports channels or commenting about it on HIO.
Poker is not a sport!
How many goals did Halak score? None? Then how can he alone have won anything? It’s a team game and goaltenders get too much credit and blame.
Don’t you dare start on Doug Gilmore. Just don’t. My blood pressure just shot out my hears.
Exactly. Many Toasters here think it’s the same argument, but you are right, it’s two different ones and they lump them together like different colored playdough that ends up mush color.
We did not get enough for Halak. Period. That doesn’t make us St. Louis fans. Is that freaking clear enough for you guys?
Further, it’s not an implied crit of Price, who’s played well.
Summary: Halak made management think this team is better than it is: too small, too soft, too worn out (Gill, Space, Hammer (for the minutes asked of him, I think if he were doing less min he would be useful).
As for the poster looking for solutions about Nomez, unless there is a GM out there dumber than Gauthier (insert list here) we are royally screwed.
Sorry to be cranky but losing to Ottawa and Kovy lighting us up makes me insane
P.S. Neither is this a crit of Eller. He’s a kid, of course it will take time unless we wreck him…
“To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”
Michael Russo’s Sunday Insider: A sentimental old rascal.
http://www.startribune.com/sports/wild/106802933.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUBP7hUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr
The laffs have 1 win in their last 9 games, exact same as their start last year. … from Scott MacArthur’s twitter.
Poker isn’t a sport but a Canadian being poised to win the Main Event of the World Series of Poker is relevant considering the contingent here hailing from Montreal, Quebec and Canada.
Poker is a game, much like Chess. It is tremendously popular and I felt the post to be a relevant contribution considering the event wasn’t televised in Canada.
I wouldn’t expect a Grafton native to understand that Montreal natives would appreciate that information being shared considering Jonathan Duhamel’s place of residence.
It’s also typical of Grafton residents to scratch their heads at the thought of simple matters. When the collective amount of teeth held by the population of the town can be counted on two hands I wouldn’t expect any intelligent perspective. Just a useless post like the one you just put up.
Not for long, if he wins…
—Hope Springs Eternal—
baseball and golf are not sports either. let’s start fighting about that
Then you’re not a fan of the Montreal Canadiens.
MY TEAM includes all the greatest players ever and the best coaches and staff. Problem is, THAT TEAM is in my imagination.
…and I don’t bore other people with its details.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Post of the day
And if it wasn’t for Elliot, THEY woulda been bombed.
…with the D he has in front of’m…
Like we’re all a bunch of pee-wees in Mtl and if we had Buffaler’s or Ottawa’s D, we’d be champions of the world.
C’mon.
Spuriously furious, I swear as
L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com
Your point is legit but misses the real point – we did not get enough for Halak.
Eller is future considerations. It’s not his fault, he’s a rookie. That’s all. Don’t confuse the arguments.
The better Halak does the worse Gauthier looks.
Yeah! A good goaltender would help close down attackers and limit shots!!
You’re boring and your avatar is dumb.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
You forgot the human boat anchorage. Nomez. – whatever
“To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”
Three more years after this one; 7 mil cap hit every year.
Can’t break the contract. CAN send Gomie to minors and REMOVE cap hit but must still pay him.
No. Gomie’s contract is New York’s, not ours; we just picked it up. Stands to reason that if he was traded outta New York without any prohibitive clause in his contract, he can be traded outta Mtl too. As for VERBAL contracts? Doubtful. They are non-binding as-per-the-law in 2010. No point in making them. As Éric Bélanger can testify.
Spuriously furious, I swear as
L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com
Nooo, the title is good as is, I think.
Kovalev did more damage than Gill.
Spuriously furious, I swear as
L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com
What a wing nut
I wouldn’t bet on it.
It’s clear that you just look at the score and not pay attention to the actual play of the game. Price has played well all season so far, and has had huge saves to keep us closer in certain games. We don’t have a goaltending problem.
Doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be there.
You saw why last night, that a sniper is worth big bucks but a playmaker is not. Kovy almost single handed changed the outcome of the game, he needs NO ONE to allow him to score. Gomez actually played one of his best games but it resulted in ZERO, because he NEEDS wingers to convert the passes. Gomez was NEVER worth his salary because he does not make those around him better. Gomez needs scorers to make HIM worth the money.
Pleks can score on his own plus make plays, thus he is a bargain. Cammi is a proven sniper and will work out of his funk. Gionta? Had one great season so really no past record as a proven sniper.
Reunite the Pleks & AK it was working JM. Reunite G&G but GIVE Gomez someone who can SCORE. MOEN does not work OK? Maybe keep Cammi with G&G for a try.
‘Cogito ergo doleo’
Seriously rootin’ for the guy. Comes across like a good kid.
It’s too bad a 6:1 big stack in no-limit holdem isn’t equivalent to a 6-1 lead headin’ into the third period of a decisive Stanley Cup finals game. Stacks are almost, almost, as fickle as Hab fans.
Some fans are still on the Halak bandwagon…if he was still playing for the Habs…the bunch they have this year…3 or 4 scores a defence some games might as will stayed home…he wouldn’t be any better than price…Halak has one of the best defensive teams in the league in front of him…and they score just enough to win…that’s why he is doing good in st.louis….
let him switch teams with price for awhile and the fans would be saying…we should have never let price go…hey if it wasn’t for price the Habs would not be as high in the standings as they are now….
unfortunately…this week is where the slide begans…
The Rocket said so. and I may add that JM haven’t got a clue how to put lines together…if he did he wouldn’t have broken up the first line…Pouliot, Halpern and Gionta should be our 2nd line…Gomez should be on the 3rd line where he belongs….the hell with what you’re paying him or the rangers who cares $8,000,000 dollars…what was gainey thinking….
The Canadiens management have to face the reality. Roman, Hal and Jaro aren’t getting any younger. Besides being relatively slow, they look tired , confused, behind the play on the ice. I know we’ve heard this plenty of times. Something needs to be done. You can’t win a Cup with a. D corps composed of 35-36 year olds that are approaching the end of their careers. The 3 men are declining.
Here’s what I suggest. Play Picard with Subban regularly. They play great together. I was surprised by Picard’s play before he started being scratched.
Play Ryan O’Byrne. He’s young and will only get better, although doughtful with Martin’s doghouse coaching. The team can use his physicality and size. He needs to get ice time to regain his confidence.
Play Weber. The guy is leading all AHL defensemen in goals and points. He can help the struggling PP.
Build and develop the D corps. It’s ok if they make mistakes. They will learn. They need the fans and coaches support.
Markov-Gorges
Subban-Picard
Hamrlik-Weber/O’Byrne
Buy-out Spacek’s contract. Play Gill but not every night. An occasional sit will do him and the team some good, and I mean that respectfully.
I rather see a rookie/young player like Weber, Obyrne, Subban, Eller make a mistake, learn and move on, than a veteran who really has no future looking forward in the league with the likes of Gill Spacek and Hamr who are aging.
Look at the Blackhawks D. Seabrook, Keith…they made lots of mistakes, coughed up the puck and cost their team games early in their careers. The difference is the management continued playing them. You need patience to develop players. That’s how you get better.
Anyways. All this has probably been said before.
Gotta admit, Montreal is a tough place to develop players and to coach. One move and you’re under the radar.
That could work out…than put Halpern with ak46 and pleks
The Rocket Knows
I agree. It’s one thing to have off-ice scandals in your personal life, with your marriage etc. But Gilmour was going out with a 12-year-old child. That’s illegal, and totally disgusting. Guy should definitely not be in the Hall. Being a good hockey player should not excuse you from being held to the same standard as anyone else. Would we do this with a politician or a lawyer? Never. But because he’s a hockey player….
Good one. :-)
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It’s just a game.
I should say, in fairness to Gilmour, that he was never indicted in that lawsuit, but that the Blues shipped him off to Canada post-haste. So there is certainly still some ambiguity surrounding the whole thing. But innocent until proven guilty I guess…the whole thing has always just rubbed me the wrong way. That is a matter of opinion however, so I shouldn’t speak quite so harshly toward him. He very well might have been innocent.
Funny! Right after the trade some were crowing that now Halak’s true colours will show. Playing in the big bad West with a lousy team in front of him, Halak would be the next Steve Penney.
Revisionist history is the norm on apologists HIO. Halak was great, is great and will continue to be great. Get over it.
Halak has a save percentage OVER .940 and a GAA of 1.53 stats don’t lie.
ps I totally agree without Price this team would be in BIG TROUBLE
‘Cogito ergo doleo’
When is the final on?
and they’re not?
Just to be factual the babysitter in question was 14 at the time and Gilmour was 25. You are right the Grand Jury did not find enough evidence to go to trial and Gilmour denied any wrongdoing.
‘Cogito ergo doleo’
For the record, it’s Doug Gilmour.
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“Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”
~Serge Savard~
Well, like a Chilean Miner kind of trouble. LOL
‘Cogito ergo doleo’
actually you’re wrong.
next year the cap hit is 7 mil, but the year after it’s 5.5 mil, and the final year is 4.5 mil.
so i see the habs keeping him for the next 2 years, and then buying him out the end of next year.
so anger/frustration for 2 more years only.
he had 1 career year, that’s it. too bad GM’s give a high contract based on 1 good year.
I say let’s see how you’re doing after 2 years.
anyone can have 1 good year, but good players have consecutive good years.
we got zero return. that’s the problem.
during the offseason PG failed to address the problem of needing a scoring winger.
getting an unproven AHL player isn’t the answer. guess PG only wanted someone cheap.
here’s a question.: if habs lose 10 in a row, does JM get fired?
if so, who should replace him??(remember the coach by habs idiotic law, must be french).
and folks that’s why this team will never have a decent coach.
Are you saying the blues have a strong D?
Bottom line……Halak is great and we gave him away for nothing as with Roy, …….Price is mediocre at best. Whomever made those decisions needs to be let go. Basically we jettisoned another Dominic Hashek.
Its the hockey hall of fame, not the human hall of fame.
Price is MEDIOCRE?
There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…
Kovy’s first goal – Karlsson’s shot him. Kovalev was just traffic.
Kovy’s second goal – shoots a rebound through traffic that looked like it might have bounced off Gill.
Nonsense to say that Kovalev single-handedly changed the outcome of last night’s game because his sniper skills.
Have you guys seen this insane promotional video for the Habs? It’s great and goes through all the players.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2unSz0Q7r-0
Wow, what a joke. Price, mediocre? You are HILARIOUS. I guess you are not watching the same game as everyone else then buddy.
After a win….NOTHING, After a loss….. Halak is great Price sucks.
Any game of the season Gomez is useless to us and we are screwed because of him single handedly.
Jm is not as good a coach as Boucher (despite the Canadiens beign ahead of Tampa with our BIG players not producing)
Every loss is Gaineys fault, Every win belong to ???? no one really says.
Doesn’t matter how Price plays, if Halak played The Habs would have had 10 more goals.
GLAD TO SEE YOU GUYS HAD FUN AT THE SUMMIT.
There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…
You had me up until “Price mediocre” and ”Hashek”.
And then, it all came crumbling down in utter ridiculousness.
Spuriously furious, I swear as
L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com
Not even mediocre but “mediocre at best” LOL
that was pretty sick!
Tuesday’s encounter with the Canucks promises to be a real downer. Perhaps we can fortify our enjoyment of the contest – okay, deaden its anticipated pain – by resorting to the ever popular drinking game, as follows, using your favourite beverage:
Every time Gill gets caught flatfooted, have a sip.
Every time Gomez heads through centre with a full head of steam and veers to the left in enemy territory and comes a stop, take a swig.
Every time Montreal doesn’t score on the power play, chug-a-lug.
It occurs to me the rules of the game could lead to excessive drinking, and if continued over a week or so, result in alcoholism, so in order to encourage moderation, if not abstinence, here is an alternative set of rules.
To satisfy both the half-empty and half-full camps of Hab followers.
Every time Montreal allows a shorthanded goal, have a sip.
Every time Lapierre, Pyatt or Boyd scores, take a swig.
Every time Plekanac makes a bad pass, chug-a-lug.
Uhhh, NO, I’m NOT wrong, Hummie. It’s a 7mil cap hit REGARDLESS of his salary. Same way Vinny Lecavalier’s contract will pay him 1 mil in HIS final season (or whatever) but the CAP HIT will STILL be 7.7 mil.
Ok?
Ok.
Spuriously furious, I swear as
L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com
Price is a major reason why we are where we are in the standings, end of discussion.
Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat.
Considering the Blues were just out of the top ten LEAST scored against teams last season, and they still didn;t make the playoffs, I wouldhave ot say that, YES, the Blues have a STRONG D. They have the LEAST AMOUNT OF SHOTS AGAINST IN THE LEAGUE so far.
There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…
Good post! I agree with everything you said. I do think though that if Halak was here (and if Price /Eller/? were not) then we would probably have a better record. St Louis is much improved so far this year and I think a lot (or most) of the credit has to go to Halak. Having said that I think that Price has been great so far and I like the flashes of skill and potential that Eller has shown so far.
He was being sarcastic….hello?
double
Free country dude.
Which part of what I wrote makes you think I didn’t understand the sarcasm?
Can’t I agree with 95% of a sarcastic post?
Did you see how he had his stick? It was a deflection and he planned to do it. The second goal was a true sniper’s goal a friggin rocket launch.
Nonsense? He WAS the first star. I guess everyone in the Bell was equally delusional.
‘Cogito ergo doleo’
Price has been good. Halak’s time spent in the NHL so far has consisted mainly of being Carey’s waterboy and thus speaking his name in the same breath as Hashek is inappropriate. We got a first a first and third rounder, which is what we would have got had we let him go via free agency. The only diffference is that the prospects we got are partially developed and will be performing for us a lot sooner than the prospects we would have got using actual picks. You think Halak is gonna bring us Rick Nash?
I must have missed all those Cups Hasek was winning in his prime.
……….u had me at Hello…..
You mean losing 3 of the last 4 and barely beating Buffalo?
With Vancouver and Boston coming up this week. (Halak just beat Boston, FYI).
I love how you guys say “end of discussion”. Is that from the PriceBot fanclub handbook?
When Kovy is on form, he has a laser beam. The problem is he’s not in the mood often enough.
As for last night, unfortunately for us, he was in the mood, scored 2 goals and we lost. How is that nonsense?
Thank you. I realized that as I was typing it as I was picking it up from the previous post. But I let it go so as not to get off point. I was kind of upset.
As for the St. Louis incident, teenage girls are perfectly capable of throwing themselves at guys and then getting pissed and vengeful when rejected. Gilmour was never convicted of anything. Our system, thank god, is innocent until proven otherwise.
But I see the guys apology and it’s cool.
We scored two goals against the Sens and still lost … The Blues scored two goals (in OT) and won against the Bruins. To all those who say that goaltending is not the problem in Montreal:
Goaltending may not be the problem, but a good goaltender may very well be the solution!
I have enough of Boyd playing center. He has a team high -6. He is too weak defensively. I would send him down and bring up white. Or make a deal to get a top 6 forward.
Im a big Halak fan but thats unfair to say. A realistic appraisal of last nights game was 4-1 Ottawa. Montreal got a fluky goal, plus Price kept them in the game, habs shouldve never been in it til the end at all.
[Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.
i thought and still think the 2 oldsters traded away the wrong goalie – having said that price is doing an excellent job and cant be blamed for the poorly coached pp and worse coached pk and for all the habs top forwards going dead under the old loser coach martin – gauthiers ottawa man prior both being fired. face it the team is run by retreads who never even competed in a stanley cup final – what more does anyone expect?
I doubt it was planned and even if it was scoring off a deflection is not a sniper’s goal. Look at the replay and the comments from the game – Kovalev’s second goal went in off Gill. Scoring off a deflection from the defenceman through traffic is not a sniper’s goal.
You should really learn how to separate issues. Kovalev being named the first star of the game does not mean that he scored goals last night because he’s a sniper. Sorry the entire argument is nonsense as far as yesterday’s game is concerned. Kovalev’s skill as a sniper did not single-handedly change the outcome of yesterday’s game.
Our most pressing need is a top 30 coach. Martin would have a top 6 forward on the 4th line ater one bad game. The deployment of personnel and line combinations are bizarre.
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Did anyone notice how those Maple Leaf fans are such sheep? They support management no matter what. It’s no wonder they haven’t won in 43 years.
I wouldn’t go that far…there’s a lot of good french coaches out there….look no farther than tampa bay….they’re doing alright….and they’re gonna get better as the season progresses
The Rocket said so.
Simple.
two out of those three games ended in a shutout for the other team. Price’s fault? Newp, try again.
Calling me a pricebot isn’t going to get you anywhere, the fact that I support him is because he is a Montreal Canadien. Jaroslav Halak, as great as he’s playing these days is a St. Louis Blue, therefore he is now the enemy.
Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat.
We need 2 fire jaqcu es martin or just get him the hell outta there.What we need is a coach with a different mentality and attitudSomeone whos bold and able to squeeze out the max. outta each and everyone on this team………………
…………………………Someone like……………
…Patrick Roy!
I’m just as big of a Halak fan as the next. He’s playing out of his mind like we all knew he could. But seriously, HE PLAYS FOR THE BLUES NOW!!!! The trade is months old, yet people talk about it here as if it could be reversed?!? I’m sorry to say it, but you guys really need to get over it, or simply switch teams. Crying about it for the rest of your life will only make you bitter, and the rest of us sick. I too hope that Halak wins the Vezina for himself, but i’m not about to say that I hope he shuts us out to prove Gauthier wrong. When you break that down, I want OUR team to win, and you should too! If you’re just a troll trying to get a rise out of people, well then good for you for playing your role well. But if you’re someone who seriously wishes ill will onto the CH because X player was traded, then you’re not a fan of this team. I’m no specialist, just a realist.
Get over it people. This is our team right now.
I’m not sure if he was more in the mood than the last time he played us. He just had two bounces (one pure luck) last night that resulted in goals. It’s nonsense because you’re trying to use last night’s game as an example where a goal-scoring sniper single-handedly changes the outcome of the game when the reality is that those goals he scored where not sniper’s goals. When someone puts together a high-light DVD of Kovalev’s sniper goals I can assure you that those two goals from last night will not be in there.
Point one single game this year where goaltending lost us a game. You guys make me sick with your bashing of Price & praising of Halak. Stop making stupid posts & go cheer for St.Louis.
I understand your post and d share most of your views. I was a great admirer of Halak ( because of his work ethic and the incredible way he ‘mastered’ his craft). I think though most of the angst you see here from fans are really just people ‘fed up’ with the incompetence and mediocrity that recent management and coaching have inflicted upon this gloried franchise.
Max Pac was RIGHT! All we seem to develop and embrace are 4th liners.
You praise Price but think the wrong goalie was traded? With the mistakes this team has been making in front of Price, do you honestly think Halak would fair any better?
I agree! And the sad thin is they show no willingness to bring in help to develop their personnel. Correct me if I am wrong but do we have a defensive coach of Robinson’s or ilk. Do we have an innovative offence thinker to instill excitement. No! We have Muller… nice and good but not greatest offensive mind. And Martin who looks and acts like a panicked jailer.
Now that I completely agree with. Our coach surely does have a soft spot for vets and journeymen. I’m not saying that I don’t appreciate the smarts of Halpern et al, but give the kids a chance too. To me, Eller could be the next Pleks(in a few years), that is unless JM has something to say about it. I’ll defend the habs to the end of the world, but I won’t agree with the way he kills the confidence of an up and comer. He needs to let these kids come into their own, let them play their game and learn from the many leaders we have on our roster.
Halak is superior to Price in every single statical category (other then height). That being said, Price is playing to his petagree – and minus a couple epic “head fakes” – has played well.
I think if we actually got a decent return for Halak, folks would have an easier time. A franchise goalie for an AHL goon, and a forward who MIGHT be useful in a couple of years? Weak.
You’re right of course, but that won’t change anything. It isn’t about Halak, or Huet, or Theodore. Makes the blog lousy reading but nothing can be done about it.
Go Habs Go.
I’m not going to disagree with you Adam, but the point of getting rid of one of our netminders, was NOT taking salary back in return. I’d love to have Perron or Boyes back for Halak, but that wasn’t in the cards. Eller could be something special in the future, but he’s got alot to learn. We as fans just need to be patient with the progress. As for Schultz, he was a throw in that may or may not make a difference in the future.
Today’s poetry reading is by Percy Merriwether Esprit III:
The Montreal Canadiens
Could use a new approach
But you’ll never get to see it
With Martin as their coach
In a nutshell you will be reading these words for much of the year…”HABS INABILITY TO MOUNT MUCH OFFENSE”.
The problem is not goaltnding it’s our offensive players or quite frankly their lack of offense. Too many small, and I mean small, players to have on one team. They continually get pushed of the puck, nice guys though just too many of them and it appears that we con do very little about it.
Considering what Gomez is paid he’s a friggin joke. This guy is a waste of a good sweater, he is lazy, lacks good hockey sense and is just too small. HE MUST GO!
I agrre with a previous poster that O’Byrne and Picard should play more and we should see less of Hammer and Gill because they will not be here next year. Spacek, another joke sit him as much as you can, as these three players are not in out future.
Coaching??????????? What coaching, why does Habs management like boring, non enthusiastic coaches who are out of touch with todays game…he must not be here next year.
Fringe players like Laps as well as 4 or 5 others need to look minn a mirror and say to themselves “how the f— did I make this team?
Hey, Mike, you forgot to turn your clock back. Which you really should, considering how the team is playing. Rewind it to the ’70s.
What is your definition of a sniper? Mine is a player who can score goals period. How clean a goal really doesn’t matter dude, a goal is a goal.
Gomez could have taken the same shot a hundred times and deflection or not would not have turned on the red light. Snipers have a way of scoring key goals, on their backs, on their knees, off a deflection. off the scoreboard whatever. They score. Hence the name sniper.
Higlight real goals don’t get you into the HHOF, goals do.
My dad says Phil Esposito was the greatest garbage goal scorer of all time. Was he not a sniper?
‘Cogito ergo doleo’
That’s not good enough, berkie. You don’t trade a real-deal num1 goalie for a guy “we accept won’t be worth it one season”. Not good enough. On the contrary: you MUST try to get someone who’ll bring a semblance of the same impact the player you’re giving up produced. Or else, you’re Mickey Mouse.
Furthermore, Halak didn’t play “half” a season, ok? He’s been here FOUR years. And OUT of those four years, he’s saved two of them BY HIMSELF, and would have done so a THIRD time if Huey hadna played the leafs. So painting him as a Theodore is a little rich.
I will say this: if Eller turns into Gretzky in two years, it’ll be worth it. Until then, our pants are pulled down in the deal, and if it wasn’t for the fact that the Kid is playing absolutely FANTASTIC, we would be the laughing-stock of the League.
Spuriously furious, I swear as
L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com
Okay, Bugs–trying to see you aright through your ironies, you think we should have kept Halak.
Now, I love Halak, and it was a real downer trying to explain The Trade to my young son who finally had a Hab superstar that he could love. That one still hurts. But I’m going with the “Bob Gainey is very far above me on the Great Chain of Hockey Being, so I’ll trust him” position vis-à-vis Price.
But here’s the question: assuming that you, the Furiously Spurious One, decided to trade Halak in the past offseason, what would your trade have looked like–going out & coming in?
engage points? thats not loyalists style, he just raises talking points again when his last ones are buried in the ether of HIO
Why? Because his stock was down. But the pedigree remains.
Who cares if those sayin we coulda gotten more for Price had a brain or not? It was said; we all heard it. Giroux or Eller on the return? That’s all we had to think about.
(Of course, I’m just sayin “Giroux” cuz of Philly’s yearning for Price.)
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Let me get this straight.
Halak was the only reason we made it to the ECF (that’s what was said), yet the goalie that sat during this time will bring the better deal?
Besides, we tried to deal Price. We all know how that went.
On that note. Let’s hear who YOU think we should have gotten for the “greatest goalie in the NHL™”?
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~Serge Savard~
Bugs, you’re being unrealistic. Name a single goalie that’s been traded that’s returned a top end player. You can’t because it’s never happened. When Vokoun and Luongo were traded they were worth WAY more than Halak was, yet they yielded LESS. Look it up. You’re arguing from emotion, which never ever ever ever ever makes sense or wins.
I guess if a drunken hillbilly says I’m wrong, then I must really be right.
No, actually you’re the one whose guess is wrong.
I ALSO believe that “Mr.Bob Gainey is very far above me on the Great Chain of Hockey” and I ALSO trust his position vis-à-vis the Kid. I believe the Kid can and will become everything his pedigree says he will.
Only problem with that is that Halak is a better goalie, Couvie. Call it a crazy luck of the draw but the guy picked 271st is better than the guy picked 5th, and we would be fools to believe this did not throw a wrench in Mr.Bob Gainey’s best laid plans for the Kid.
Look, there’s no denying at the moment that Mr.Bob Gainey is being proven right about the Kid; I got nothing against that. I got nothing against trading Halak either if we had gotten proper return. If we could NOT get proper return, then yes, we shoulda kept Halak.
To answer your question à propos trading Halak: first off, I woulda automatically put his name out and auctioned him, nevermind St.Louie. His stock was sky-high, ferpetessakes! Eller and Schultz woulda been the best we coulda got outta the whole NHL? Really? Couldna done better tha two “prospects” WE NEVER HEARD OF? Honestly? For a real-deal num1 hero goalie? C’mon. No one will ever be able to make me buy that salad, Couvie. I refuse.
Ok, the Halak trade to St.Louie then? I woulda asked for Perron right off the bat. Woulda made a big stink for him; threatened to call off negotiations and put Halak’s name out there for auction instead. Whined and bitched and carried on. They woulda still refused, but at least, they’da been forced to put on their nervous hats and realize I wasn’t fooling around and that I had, or CONSIDERED myself to have, a HERO player who was worth the moon and that I WANTED said moon in return for’m. MAYBE I coulda gotten Perron, but I doubt it.
So much would I have made a stink for Perron however, that the THOUGHT of proposing Eller and Schultz, I can guarantee this, would NEVER have crossed their minds. By that same measure, I would’ve psychologically FORCED them to look at their “gold list”, start from the bottom and work their way up.
Until they inevitably mentioned Pietrangelo.
Then I woulda sighed in exasperation and said that if they added a 1st-round pick, I would accept. They would balk at that. They would also balk at a 2nd-rounder. So I would give them the feeling of a small victory by forcing me to accept a 3rd-rounder instead, thereby allowing them to retain a little sense of accoomplishment that would soothe their reticence in trading their blue-chipper.
Pietrangelo. Num 1 HERO goalie (who, make no mistake, are EXTREMELY rare) for a num 1 prospect. THAT’S a fair deal, imo.
(Of course, these grand schemes of mine have never actually been applied with my own NHL team against live general managers, but I can assure you that they work beautifully in my head.)
Spuriously furious, I swear as
L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com
And those schemes also bring delight and enlightnment to your legions of admirers ;–)
Hey, I didn’t make any of this up, Zeppy. Why are you arguing this with ME? Argue it with those who said it. Argue it with Scotty Bowman; he said it. Ask me, Price’s name and pedigree held tons of sway for other teams, I would imagine, for the same reasons we KEPT him. How the hell should I know?
The supposed Price for Vinny deal? Are you implying that that deal was nixed because they felt that they were being shafted with us keeping Halak, or that Price is “undealable” since we “tried” to deal him but the deal never got done?
Who? Look up.
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Halak is in his prime, Price has another year or so to get into the right age where goalies break out. Anyone who actually thought Price was going to be magically better than Halak this season was dreaming. That said, Price has been fantastic, and even the mighty Halak might have only one more win playing for Montreal this season. Price has been full value, better than most goalies in the NHL from the games I’ve watched this year.
Halak has also been playing above his head, and like Tim Thomas, his numbers at the end of the year won’t be anywhere close to what he has now. As the season goes on, it’s very likely that Price’s numbers will get better, while Halak’s even out. Halak will have better numbers, but it will be negligible. This is why the trade was made.
Montreal traded the more expensive, higher valued goalie at the moment in order to keep the younger, cheaper goalie as well as Plekanec, and whatever we got in the trade was a bonus. Eller is a rookie, and has alternated solid and bad games so far this season. He’s being broken in slowly by the coach, and from what I’ve seen he’s becoming a better NHL player. Won’t be long until Eller starts paying dividends.
If you look at trades involving goalies in the last 6-7 years, which is laid out for everyone on Habs Eyes on the Prize, Montreal made the best value trade on that entire list, just by virtue of Halak never playing a full season as a starter, and Eller already being in the NHL. The guy is a blue chipper, a lot like Plekanec at the same age, only bigger and stronger.
The biggest problem is the management and coaching. We are missing one top 6 forward. We need a trade hopfully invoving one Dman, Boyd and a prospect. The coach should not change the lineup continuously.
Dude, you make no sense. You say “Halak is in his prime” then you say “Halak is playing over his head” and his numbers will average out. The difference between he and Price will be “negligible”.
If you know the future so well, you should head to Vegas.
Let us know when Price is going to run 150 minutes and 3 seconds without giving up a goal. And win six in a row. I’d like to live long enough to see that.
Price is fine, but we got screwed on the trade. You can’t on one hand argue that Eller is a “blue chipper” in one sentence and in another say he was “a bonus”, the trade was worth it to keep Plex.
I still don’t buy that argument even though it’s orthodoxy on HIO that we would have lost Plex if we’d kept Halak.
You can have your opinion, but don’t bother telling us what the future is. Don’t plan the parade just yet because this team, even though we no longer have a Swiss player, is full of holes.
Um … “Halak is in his prime” and “Halak is playing over his head” don’t contradict one another. Neither do “bonus” and “blue chipper”. No need to take a side to see that one.
A player can be in their prime and playing crappy or well. He was saying Halak will likely have a better year than Price, but surely his current numbers won’t hold – good but still somewhat over his head.
Also, a blue chip bonus is just a better bonus.
Nobody on this site is more arrogant than you. Others opinions are, although differ, are just as valid as yours. Constantly you scribble the same old things and take a pot shot or” bully” others. Have you no respect?? At least the trolls show themselves for who they are and are not deceived by their own arrogance, DUDE.
Your comments are fair.
It’s just that the Toasters who annoy me the most are the ones who tell us the future with such certainty, irrespective of the facts at hand.
That’s why they play the games.
Already this year, looking back at the summer, I took a vow to lay off Price until he’d played 20 games. He’s played pretty well (though not as well as Halak) and I’m not concerned about him any more.
Who knew our offense would be in the dumpster? The future is not clear at all, but management has to be realistic about what this team can accompish and what our weaknesses are. I don’t think we have the depth to make any improvements, we’d be playing wack-a-mole, basically. The essence of the problem is Gomez’ contract. If we had that $7 mil we could get immediate help and then we could groom Eller and Poo et cie properly. That’s the problem, and there is apparently no solution available, ergo the concern.
Maybe Gomez will suddenly start playing great. Any chance?
Amen. I hope that you & the other big guns here keep up the steady salvos of fact and reasoned analysis until we have a default position of support and respect for Price — for all we know he will be the next Roy.
(And kudos to you also for declaring an empirical prediction for Jaro: I’m defending Gomez like mad but am too cowardly to make any similarly-numbers-based predictions for him ;–)
I think we’ve been civil on this site, but how about you read what I said and realize everything you took issue with is ridiculous.
Halak is playing extremely well, he IS in his prime, however that doesn’t mean he’s going to finish the season with 1 loss and a .944 save%. It’s even been done before and despite the fact that he’s an excellent goaltender, he’s not the greatest of all time which many on this site would have us believe. Price on the other hand has more wins at the same age than Brodeur had. Better stats too. If you can’t see the correlation between early success and consistent improvement becoming a better player later, then you should be looking into your own brain about whether or not you understand simple concepts instead of sarcastically asking if someone can predict the future.
Why I say the difference will be negligible, is because the difference between their statistics won’t matter by the end of the season, as both teams will likely have similar success. If you’ve been paying attention, our team hasn’t been playing well, yet we’re still leading the division. When our best players start breaking out, which is inevitable, the team will play a lot better and Price’s numbers will improve.
Price won 7 straight games in his rookie season, forget that? He’s already done it.
Pretend Halak signed here, despite what his agent BSed about on the radio, he’s not staying here without going to arbitration. He easily gets 4 mil. Where do you find 5 mil for Plekanec? How do you find the cash to sign Halpern, Boyd, Eller, Pouliot, Lapierre and others with this extra salary on the books? Trade Hamrlik or Spacek? Bull***! Who takes them? Bottom line is the team barely got in under the cap this year with Price, with Halak they’d be a worse team with a slightly better goaltender. Not worth it.
How does Eller being a bonus negate the fact that he’s a blue chipper? You’re not making any sense. READ it again.
Bottom line of what I’m saying, your criticisms of my post attempt to present contradiction where there is none, and if anything its showing a lack of reading comprehension. On top of that you came off like a bit of a sarcastic asshole. Especially this “don’t plan the parade” Bull***. Keep that garbage to yourself. Where did I say this team is winning the cup? Nowhere. Stop pretending anyone who doesn’t agree with you is some superfan who thinks the organization can do no wrong. It’s not true.
It is because we traded a premier NHL goalie, the guy who single handedly brought us to the ECF and got absolutely nothing in return. Eller has been nothing – you could take any guy from the farm and he’d have exactly the same impact on the team as Eller. Eller, will never be anything morec than a 3rd or 4th line plugger. If Gauthier HAD to trade Halak, he should ahve gotten us that missing top 6 forward. Instead he gave another ridiculous deal to Pleks (with all respect, Pleks is not worth the money he is making) and basically hasn’t changed the team for the better.
So basically, when people discuss Halak it’s not so much about the goalie – it’s the manifestation of their displeasure with Gauthier, JM and Bobo.
Huh? I acknowledge his opinion, that’s fine. What i don’t like is him telling us the future. THAT’s arrogant. That’s all.
And I’ve admitted here various time’s that I was wrong on Price. I never thought he’d straighten his head out. I was wrong and happy to be so.
If challenging someone’s psychic ability is “bullying”, sorry. Sheesh. I guess we’re all sensitive losing 3 of 4 with Vancouver and Boston looming.
Again, “irrespective of the facts at hand”.
Stupid comment. I’m sorry, I shouldn’t put it so harshly, but it’s a ***ing stupid comment. Price has shown more for a goalie at his age than nearly anyone else in NHL history, yet you still bitch constantly. He isn’t into the age where most goalies hit their prime yet, and he’s still putting up consistent performances that show he’s an elite goaltender in this league, and you still bitch.
No one is “predicting the future” by saying Price is going to be a great goalie, they’re just looking at the “facts at hand” and drawing the only reasonable conclusion available.
You know what’s arrogant? Writing off every opinion that differs from yours as “rose coloured glasses”, or a “delusional superfan” or someone who wants to “plan the parade”. You do it all the time, and it’s just a way to write off someone with an ad hominem attack so you don’t have to actually engage the points they made. It’s cowardly. There’s my opinion.
Gomez will get his usual 55+ points, he looked a lot better last night. He just needs to keep that level of competitiveness and the points will come.
Timo, no goalie in the last 10 years has been traded straight up for a top 6 forward. Stop bringing it up, it doesn’t happen. When Luongo was traded, he was the PREMIER goalie in the entire NHL, and the Panthers got a shellshocked Bertuzzi for him that was completely useless.
The return for Halak is easily one of the best of any goalie trade since before the lockout.
Try taking a breath and giving your head a shake before reacting to a post….You didn’t like the Cammy slash in the last pre-season game?? Your posts come off as the same thing!
You were doing ok until “ridiculous deal for Plecky.”
Because so far in that deal, he’s been worth every cent which means it’s NOT “ridiculous”, and therefore your entire argument, which had solid legs to begin with, disintegrates.
You shoulda just said “keeping Plecky wasn’t worth losing Halak” and that coulda been defendable. Saying his contract is ridiculous isn’t.
Spuriously furious, I swear as
L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com
Well, I apologize if you feel bullied. I enjoy a diversity of opinion and encourage it. If I’m aggressive in presenting a point it’s for one of the following very specific reasons.
1. highly speculative opinions get picked up and repeated on here to such a degree that they become orthodoxy if not challenged. They need to be challenged.
2. huge leaps of faith are presented as fact – “Player X, age 21, is going to be great” Maybe yes, maybe no. Does anyone know definitively? Hell no. I don’t, you don’t, Gauthier doesn’t. I’m old enough to have lived through Stephane Richer, our last 50 goal scorer and a total freaking head case. The guy could score almost at will, but he made Kovalev look like a consistent plugger. So when I hear crap about Eller or Poo leading us out of the wilderness, the alarm bells go off. We need half a dozen Ellers and Poos and with luck 1 or 2 of them will pan out.
3. I will not get off riding Gomez. For $7 million dollars we get a guy who doesn’t do squat and looks bad doing it. This team will not win anything until he is gone. For that money we could get a serious big winger who actually knows where the net is. And I have no problem with small guys – Doug Flutie, Mats Naslund, Henri Richard, great warriors every one.
In summary Habs problem is that Halak made the team look better than it is. We are up in the standings temporarily as we’ve mostly played crap teams. And we’ve lost to some crap teams. We are too small and too soft and I’m not even going to talk about Martin. I don’t want to have a stroke. Talk to me when we’ve beaten Vancouver, Boston and Philly and Washington.
I’ve changed my opinions about some things after intelligent arguments from fbmj (?) Serious, Nunacanadian, even Tom Nickle with whom I’ve bashed heads. I’ve posted many times that I was wrong about Price (lucky for us).
So bring it on, but make a solid argument, just don’t report the future that hasn’t happened yet.
“the beatings will continue until morale improves”
The 4th line who has been scratched and bench is the best we could do? Okeeey.
Bummer. Sorry Bugs. I will try to do better next time, ok? My most sincere apologies.
He’s a rookie, 21 years old. Spezza was scratched and benched by JM as a rookie too.
Ohhh, is that why we traded him RIGHT AWAY without A) putting his name out there or B) starting an auction?
Because we knew we wouldn’t get more for a playoff hero and Olympic titan like Halak?
Huh. That’s weird. I thought we traded him right away for peanuts to prop up the Kid.
Soooo, if Buffaler ever decides to trade Miller, they shouldn’t expect more than a guy like Eller in the return, is that it?
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Read Bugs’ reply above. For once I agree with the crazy bunny.
I don’t have loads faith in Gomez. Though, he has what it takes to turn it around.
Either he does or a hard decision will have to be made, likely not until next year though. Burying him in the minors looks terrible. It’s rarely done, but with enough precedence and terrible individual performance, it’s possible. Redden’s demotion didn’t look SO bad because he was playing like a $1mil D. If Gomez plays like a $2mil player all year, that might get him buried. If that doesn’t get him buried, maybe a terrible year and a bad start next year will. But it’s still relatively early. 14 games isn’t nothing, though. Beyond “slump”?
As for Price. What you say now sounds good but you’ve been breaking your rule.
I believe these things:
- Halak was far better last year and the Price excuses went too far (but weren’t senseless).
- Halak will have a better year this year.
- Even with the low trade value of goalies, the return for Halak could have and should have been better, but not as good as some think.
- Signing Halak does not equal not signing Plekanec, though the third and fourth lines would be filled with prospects and Pouliot might have been shown the door. Worth it? Could be.
But I also believe:
-The Habs have played below the level their record indicates and Price has been the difference.
I enjoy highlight reel saves, hate that Price has to make several of them a night, but am blown away that he’s been making them. The Kid has been STELLAR. Couldn’t say that last year. He’s hanging on to one-goal leads. His stats aren’t top of the league but his play this year is convincing me he’d be a star on a good team. For now, I can only say that he’s making a mediocre team a good one and logging Brodeur minutes with more-than-Brodeur success and acrobatics.
F***, the Kid has been brilliant. Gomez? Awful, just plain awful. Halak? Wow. I’m relieved about Price and not convinced someone else would have done his job better so far, if you know what I mean. That’s controversial, but I’m convinced … about these 14 games at least. Does that make be a PriceBot fanboy?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offer_sheet
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“Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”
~Serge Savard~
Sorry, Zeppy, what’s your point, please?
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Yeah, just realised Halak was arbitration eligible. Forgot he was an RFA.
Nevermind….
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“Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”
~Serge Savard~
Yes, should’ve gotten more, but Halak = Miller? Last year? Not quite, or at least not enough certainty. This year? Yes, and some.
Well, any team coulda given an offer-sheet to the Kid too.
Thing with the offer-sheet is: not only do you have to pay an amount the receiving team can’t pay but you ALSO give the draft picks. I think 16mil for 4 years is something we could’ve WELL afforded for Halak.
And this “not being able to re-sign Plecky” angle, you can sell that to the tourists, mate. As we well know, in the NHL, if you’re prepared to make radical decisions, you can sign anybody.
Sign both goalies? What for? Halak is a real-deal num1. We coulda TRADED the Kid. Who would’ve gotten us more in the return, so everyone says. No?
To Philly for example. Who were pining after’m what good.
And maybe WE’D be the ones signing Giroux to an extension today.
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Halak isn’t Miller. Miller won the Vezina, Halak played HALF of the season. Halak was an unproven hot goaltender that for all intents and purposes was unknown outside Montreal. Seems that St. Louis believed what Gauthier was selling, and it paid of for him. Eller isn’t going to make the trade worth it in one season, give it up Bugs. You know this.
Nice guess what ever a guess is worth….like the guess that Ellar was a good return for Halak…..Here’s the problem to your guessing,so far your DEAD WRONG AGAIN!
“Well, any team coulda given an offer-sheet to the Kid too”
Why would they give an offer sheet to a “mediocre” Price when they could offer one to the “greatest goalie in the NHL”?
Not your words, but you get the point.
Btw, I don’t know anyone with a brain saying Price would have gotten us more than Halak at the time.
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“Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”
~Serge Savard~
Except they are both winning. Wouldn’t want it any other way.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
last i checked so are price and auld
Then why are you sounding so butt hurt?
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
not but hurt
but this website is for habs fans
not bandwagon jumpers
How old are you seriously?
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
34
what does my age have to do with you being a traitor? to the leafs? then now the habs?
I’ve never ever been a Leaf fan. I’d take any team over the Laffs. You actually listen to Tom Nickelodeon? Will you stoop to his level? I’m 43 and have been a Habs fan my whole life, till now.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
So you are not a Habs fan anymore? So why do you post on this forum? Please exit the site, post haste.
“I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
- Bilbo Baggins
who is tom nickleodeon?
and love the till now part
we have enough moronic fans, blues need more
enjoy the midwest, avoid the meth
I don’t need to explain myself you control freak. You hear me bashing the Habs? I sure hear supposed fans doing that.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
No need to explain yourself, you are perfectly clear. You come on here to post about the Blues, plain and simple, you are a Blues fan, this is a Habs site, you already said you were no longer a habs fan. So why remain on this site?
“I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
- Bilbo Baggins
Drugs are baad…drugs are baad, M’Kay Eric.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
Thanks Garrison, nice to know you have nothing real to contribute to the conversation
“I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
- Bilbo Baggins
Here’s my contribution - Seek counselling. I shouldn’t weigh so heavily on your mind.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
We’ll see how Ellar, Subban endure a full season, and how a (hopefully) relative healthy year pans out.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
Do you really believe that JM got us to the semifinals last year. Geez he couldnt even have us play well enought to properly earn a playoff spot. We were darn lucky.
And then Halak extraordinary goaltending and the infusion of PK’s excitement and Cammy’s determination got us there. Sure JM adjused but he was dragged pulling and screaming by Muller and circumstances.
“ellar” lol
Gonita was funnier
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
We were missing Marky for 30 games, Cammy for 25, and Gio for 20, and he got us to 8th. Yeah, I would say he had us play “well enough”, no?
Dragged by Muller? Please elaborate.
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You’re ridiculous. An 88 point season is nothing to be proud of. Goaltending was the story in the playoffs, along with Cammy, Gionta carrying the team offensively.
”We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
88pt-season with our best player missing what, 30 games? And two of YOUR three reasons we made it so far missing 25 and 20 games respectively (or whatever), I think it’s something to be quite proud of actually.
Considering also that when they all came back, led by the “suspect coaching” you talk about, we got to the ECF, yes, quite proud.
But don’t believe me, believe the standings: 1st in the NE with all hands on deck.
Let’s do some math: 17 pts is 19% of our 88pt total of last year, yet 14 games is 17% of the total 82-game season.
We’re ahead of last year’s curve.
Simple math.
My ridiculousness included, I’m afraid.
Spuriously furious, I swear as
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It hurts to hear you say that. I’m very sensitive.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
apparantly
“WHAAAAAAAAAH THEY TRADED HALAK AND I CANT COMPREHEND WHY?
“
Hahaha, and you tried to convince me that you were a Habs fan, what a joke, get off of this site.
“I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
- Bilbo Baggins
Pleks. Got it.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
haha, nice touch about the Blues blog – you got me there. So I guess any goalie could conceivably get a shut-out on that team even Price?
heh sorry mods, my comment got deleted
anywhoo SERGIO from TORONTO
this site is for habs fans
period
I don’t speak hypothetical, but they do look poised.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
Musta missed the fine print.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
yeah you did
OK, so far your most objective answer.
Why would I waste energy convincing you of anything?
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
no it doesnt, halak was farting rainbows from the bench all night, envelopping the team in his awesomeness
They are great from top to bottom. The same comment I made at the Blues blog
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
cool
stay there
you arent welcome here anymore
How’s this for a “going to a game” story. http://dennis-kane.com/true-story-to-divert-attention-from-habs-loss/
Monsier Bugs, I feel like I was stuck in an elevator and missed something.
Please will you indulge me and explain what is the “Saku Koivu Mentality” you are referring to. I sincerely want to hear your take.
thank you.
For people here still defending the Halak/Eller trade as a good move: go and look around internet for any NHL related sites except HABS and you will find that majority of people, fans and professional writing about hockey are “laughing” about the trade – LAUGHING. Majority of fans of other teams have huge respect for Halak and the way he is playing and recognize him as a major factor for Blues success… Fans of Rangers are happy like little children that Halak is not starting tonight…
So far Blues are often winning by 1 goal and it is enough for them to score 2 and they had more OT games where they were able to steal 2 points…
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1) Feh… goons don’t win hockey games.
2) To say a player doesn’t have “heart” is a little presumptuous. I don’t know, maybe my eyesight needs to be checked but AK has been “going to the net” far more than anyone else from what I’ve seen so far this year. Trade AK for Crosby? Sure. Trade him for another Eller? Pass. He’s a horse, he can skate, has beautiful vision, and one the most wicked wristers in the League. Not to mention he’s one of our 1st-round picks and to trade him would be admitting we fudged up in selecting him. Which would have us lose face. I go back to Rule 1: we must never lose face.
3) We didn’t get Gomie to “shoot”; we got’m to “create plays” and to “pass”. You saw his shot. My sister’s pet monkey shoots harder. What’s wrong with Gomie so far is that his decision-making abilities seem to be on the fritz. But he’s a smart player and an accountable veteran. I expect him to find himself shortly and expose his talent as he did in the playoffs when it was all on the line, so for my part, I give him a pass. … For now.
As for the P.S.: I promise to shut up about Halak. Have done so actually. But when I read that A) trading him for a bath-plug and a doorstop was “smart” and “the only thing we could REASONABLY expect to get in return” or that B) we traded him because “he wanted out and asked to be traded last December”, I CANNOT shut up, Roo. Cool?
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Didn’t Theodore score an empty-net goal for us once?
Gonita lol
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
he also was pulled and had brodeur score an empty netter in the playoffs
Imagine what the team’s record would be without Carey Price and the PK?
Less than .500?
Go Habs Go!
thats debatable
what isnt, is that hes been solid every game he has played
Arguably Pitt.
But leading the league in TOI by 30 minutes. Second not even to the guy in Jersey. That’s a big bright spot. Not really a spot. More like a region.
You mean if Jeff Halpern (God bless his soul) wasn’t at the top of the scoring chart, without a minute of top-6 time?
while laughing do they type HAHAHAHA or lulz?
wow…
id love to see bell center ushers try that, hehehe
Julie, your welcome. I had a great time also. You girls fit right in and know the game well. Sure fun to put faces and personalities to your posts. Your a great hockey fan!
Imagine what the team’s record would be if our best players were playing like our best players and our PP was rolling?
Undefeated?
Go Habs Go!
I don’t believe Price stole any games thus far.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
there was kind of a flurry of those at the time, was there not? Or is memory….
Or is it more of a hohohoHOOO type of laugh, ya know like when you open that birthday present and it turns out to be a 12 year old single malt? Or the little teeheeheehee giggle/laugh when your girlfriend shows up at midnight wearing a fur coat and not much else?
Just wondering.
Actually they type something like this:
Although i would have never traded halak in the first place….its the return that they got for him that really had me in awe.
or this
I would feel that it’s a kick in the face not only to Halak himself but also the team in front of him. He played his heart out in the playoffs and deserved the spot over Price. However, MTL chose the idiotic route. Trades like this can take the life out of a team.
or this
Any word on if The Great Halak is starting tonight?
Lol Habs, nice trade guys
or this
I know what idiots. I was thinking the same thing. I would be so ticked off if I was a Habs fan
or this
I know he’s not playing tonight, but Halak’s no joke this year himself
or this
Good news that we are playing their backup. The Halakness Monster is a fun goalie to watch, and one of the best nicknames.
or this
Halak has been a force this season, should be a hell of a game. Let’s go, Ranger
or this
We won’t get any free passes because Halak ain’t in the pipes
and more to come…:)
there was a few goalies scored, hextall was the first… i THINK brodeur was the second against us in the playoffs
theo had one against the isles
…. there was one or two more but it escapes me, google it, im lazy
edit: fine i googled it
oh boy please copy paste mOAr
dude not a single thing you quoted has the p word in it, meaning, your bloviating the words of morons
lol it’s so painfully obvious..
ya the forwards are top notch.. but the days of forwards winning high end tournames are over..
so voila.. russia wins the world championship and pisses its pants everywhere else
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88 is the new 23
Gionta hit the post last night and beat Elliot…i know it’s not good enough but still..
Happy he got that goal though..as he was too.
Those last few minutes in the third i think they were holding there stick to tight.
Halpern is a douche for calling Darche a *Nerd*.
Feel free to think what you want about it…:)
The beg for Backes, Perron, Oshie, The pick that eventually scored Tarasenko, Berglund, Pietrangelo… and they settle for Ellers and Schultz. Ouch.
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=838991&page=4
the beg for backes?
Well OneTimer,you do know this is a blog site bout the Habs and not a great looking headshot of a real good looking 51 year Habs fan?…..OneTimer,well thats better than virginotimer,eh:)
can you at least man up and admit your an asshat for not realizing halak wasnt playing but you went with it anyways?
Apparently you missed the Pens game. Not surprising that you don’t see the games though, judging by most of your comments.
Yet, I don’t see anything talking about how the move was necessary to keep Plek’s on the team this year. While it is easy to laugh at MTL for making the trade without any background info, it’s a whole other matter when you look at how much an arbitration eligible goalie would have commanded.
Clearly if you are so concerned with what other pundits or from the looks of it, random posters say, then maybe you should join those sites and cheer for those teams? Consider it at least.
And regarding the return… it’s been gone over so many times now about how little even elite goalies produce in trades. Luongo being the most glaring example.. Read Chris Boyle’s column about it.. Oh yeah, that’s a rose coloured habs site, forget it, steer clear then.
New username less than 12 hours old – hmmmm……..
Nice troll there, you get A+ for form, now back to the Blues forums with you, this is a Habs website buddy. Halak = not a Hab.
Agreed with everything you said but the part about Gomez. Check Gomez’s stats career wise. He aint what Gainey or Gauthier and lots of habs fans seem to tink he is. It’s like paying P. Mondou Guy Lafleur bucks and expecting him to be Guy Lafleur. Mondou was one of my favourite players then so I am giving Gomez credit by comparing him to P Mondou.
Gomez is a great skater… period. Not a great ‘forward’. He is also not lazy or a Lats type bad effort player.
So JM should use him in situations where he can skate and twirl and cover as much ice as he wants…. and not be trying to be a top six point producer. He NEVER was.
If Martin had gonads, Gomez’s icetime would be shared in the following situations.
50 percent of his ice time he would be on a ‘checker’ line and play a la Guy Carbonneau did against Gretzky. Gomez is so effortless in skating he can keep up with anyone and he ha sthe body strength to harass any opponent.
25 percent of his ice time would be PK. Again his great skatig skill is suited to that.
25 percent of the time he would sub on top 2 lines as needed during a game.
But he is not the catalyst for a top 2 line.
I would leave Gomez on our top two lines if we had a player like Guerin.. yes he is old and maybe slow but he can bring a tough/experienced/puck-smart and strong presence to a combination like Gionta and Gomez which may make them more productive.
We can wait till hell freezes over but Gomez’s production wont significantly increase.
I dont get that first sentence. How is that not good enough? A goal is a goal.
[Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.
I thought markovs return was going to elevate the habs to the stratosphere?
[Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.
It’s the time change. Some folks misread the instructions and did calendars instead of clocks.
The pick that scored Tarasenko? So he’s a for sure NHLer? And Eller isn’t? What an unbelievably stupid comment.
Slovak is quoting from another unintelligible post on HF Boards. I think they were all talking about rumoured discussions on the Halak trade by people not remotely associated to the details. HF Boards, what do you expect.
As I see this team now:
1) An inability to consistently possess and control the puck
2) An inability to sustain any consistent cycle
3) An inability to consistently compete along the boards
4) An inability to consistently initiate an effective transition game
5) Inconsistent line play
6) Inconsistent special team’s play
7) Too many penalties
8) Inconsistent preparation and readiness
9) Too many damn inconsistencies period!
This team was expected to due more after last season’s successful playoff run, but instead seems to
have returned to some of the old habits from last year of relying on timely scoring and superlative net-
minding to win. This however, is not conducive to winning consistently in this league.
The Habs IMO simply do not have the personnel and perhaps, the coaching to take the next step in the
growth and development of this team and by their obvious struggles on offense and defense, seem very
far in taking that step. This team as it is now playing may actually be a .500 team. It would require this
team an incredible reversal in play, what it so far has not been able to perform, for me to be convinced
otherwise, that this is indeed a better club that just a .500 team. Show me Habs, by consistently playing
better than .500 hockey this month. Show me.
Go Habs Go!
I’m still of the opinion that he got the FIRST goal too.
Did anyone see a conclusive angle that shows the puck hitting the DEFENDER’S stick? Cuz from the few I saw, it looked like it hit his.
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Bet by then you will have changed your name a dozen times. So how can we reach you Mr. Member for 9 hours.
anybody here besides me NOT surprised xtra took the bait without flinching?
Lolol he is a douche for calling darche a nerd? you are a douche for even calling him a douche for that.
Relax.
The Eastern Conference is wide open save for one power-house Washington Capitals and a fairly decent roster in Boston. IMO the HABS are closer to the Bruins and certainly better than the rest. What’s missing? It’s clear the impact of a point shot on the PP is the #1 issue, consider nobody back there offers what we had with MAB in 09/10, Streit in 08/09 and Souray in 07/08. Unless we have something going on in Hamilton (please share) then a trade is required to correct.
– I will not apologize for being a delirious HABS fan! –
Lots of people who don’t understand things tend to laugh.
It’s a self-defense mechanism to sound like they know what they’re talking about.
Don’t let it bother you.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
That pretty much sums it up thus far
The Rocket agree’s
1) check
2) that’s debatable (cuz how long you wanna STAY in a cycle?), but check
3) that’s the same as #2 in the o-zone! In the d-zone, if the end result leads to NO scoring opportunity, then it was a perfect play whether the opposition has control along the boards or not
4) disagree. Our “transitioning” is excellent; it’s our POSSESSION after the transition that’s defective
5) don’t fully understand. Do you mean some lines’ efficiency goes up and down on any given night or that players playing together have adaption issues production-wise? Either/or, same can be said for every line across the League.
6) The pp ain’t “inconsistent”; it’s NONexistent; pk seems fine to me. More than fine: extremely competent. Face-offs are up and down, but it’s a small disc of vulcanized rubber that’s bouncing on the ice after all
7) disagree. We’re 8th for less penalties taken in the League
8) what are you, a phys-ed trainer?
9) so the operative word is “inconsistent” I get it? Well, we “inconsistently” made our way to 1st in the NE, soooo…
If I get this straight, by you wanting the team to show you that they can play “consistently” better than .500 hockey this month, you’re basically asking them to do what they did LAST month but with different personnel?
“You guys STINK! Jack Marty, you and the resta your coaching staff also STINK! … But keep doing what you’re doing.”
Something like that, you mean?
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I’m laughing at you. You were never a fan of the Habs, only one of its players, and don’t pretend otherwise, because you would be lying to yourself and everyone here.
All you did last season was go on like every other troll about how Price can’t win and Halak is the glue holding the team together. Well guess what, this team is doing just fine without Halak, this team is no different than it was last season, Halak is an interchangeable part.
You’ve said numerous times that you were done posting on this site about Jaroslav Halak and yet you can’t seem to stop doing it.
That guy could go O.J. Simpson double homicide and you would still claim that he’s a hero, role model and perfect citizen.
Bring back the MAB blast from the point.
I log into here, I look around through the comments wondering if I really missed something on my drive back from Montreal and no, I didn’t. Same old vitriol, trolling and other nonsense from armchair GMs, Halak fans disguised as Habs fans and I realise I had better hockey talk during any 15 minutes of the Summit.
Prospect Updates:
The KHL:
Karri Ramo had another productive game with Avangard Omsk, he made 28 stops and was 2.00 GAA and .933% in a 6-2 win.
Alexei Emelin was -1, but his club Ak Bars Kazan won their match 4-3.
Juniors:
Morgan Ellis’s Cape Breton Screaming Eagles continue to struggle, losing their 14th game of the season in the SO, Ellis had 1 assist and was -1 with 2 PIM.
Louis Leblanc’s scoring ways aren’t easing up, he had another goal and two assists on his 3rd game to help put the MTL Juniors over Baie-Comeau Drakkar 5-3, Philippe Lefebvre added his 8th goal of the season. Leblanc has now scored two consecutive Game-Winning goals. Leblanc was also caught for a 4 minute double minor for high sticking.
Jarred Tinordi’s LDN Knights dropped a 5-4 game to the Kitchener Rangers, Tinordi was -2 on the evening but had his first OHL fight and reportedly did very well, LDN Knights Twitter awarded him the decision but that’s a wee biased, but still good to see he’s willing to engage.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
So I’m reading more and more posts stating if Halak was here we would have had more wins.
Does that mean the “greatest goalie in the NHL™” would have beaten “the greatest hockey coach in the NHL™”?
Is that even possible???
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“Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”
~Serge Savard~
you paint that like a dali painting
a horrible dali painting mind you
anyone else notice markov never shoots the puck anymore, it seems hes always looking for souray or MAB to pass too instead of just driving the net with a shot for rebounds and deflections, it also seems that subban has taken a step back since markovs return.
robert were you at the summit? if so who won my friggin tix
t wasn’t about cash. Price is making 1 million less - your telling me they could not find a million (or got halak at a discount)?
This trade was never about the cap. That was a smokescreen.
it had EVERYTHING to do with the cap, look at the numbers
NICE……
There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…
Moral of the story – smoking fracks up your life.
Kind of like a Dali painting being done on mushrooms?
“Did you guys see the size of that chicken?”
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“Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”
~Serge Savard~
wont argue that, but, one of the best aspects of going to the bell center, is the trash talk that happens outside between periods
I’m speechless. The stupidity on this site is out of control.
dali doing one of his paintings on MS PAINT on mushrooms
yes
Of course it is. The saying goes: show me a good coach and Ill show you a good goaltender…
[Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.
This team has glaring problems that are there everynight to see and if not corrected soon will
come back to haunt this team later in the season. You may scoff and deem it alarmist. That’s
your right. But, I have seen the same problems over and over on this team and they simply
can’t continue to go uncorrected. These problems stem from yes, a lack of consistency in how
this team prepares and performs from one game to the next. There is no continuity of play to
take to the next game/games to build consistency and momentum. Why is this?
Could it be that the the current personnel and yes, even the coaching staff are unable to pro-
vide the needed and required consistency and continuity of a team expected of winning con–
sistently. There’s that word again. Consistency builds winners and eventual champions. Just
ask the Canadiens of old.
Go Habs Go!
Joel Quenneville might have a thing or two to say about that.
Jack Adams in 2000 but upset in first round thanks to shoddy goaltending (Turek), then wins the Cup ten years later in spite of the (just good enough on most nights but certainly not elite) Niemi-Huet tandem.
Halak has better numbers with a weaker team in front of him – not a stretch to think he would have won us one or two more then Price.
Halak is 8 and 1 – of course this will shine a light on that abortion of a”trade”.
That’s why the summit was such a breath of fresh air. Wish I could have made it back out last night to Hurleys but I couldn’t, too tired.
A weaker team in front of him. For two weeks there you actually seemed like a rational person.
Now you’re using the strength of the teams to elevate Halak’s play to greater stature.
Pathetic.
Prejudice + No objectivity = No credibility. The result: Partisan warfare is on the rise, and truth is on the decline.
What does the “greatest coach in the NHL™” have to do with the “greatest goalie in the NHL™”?
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“Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”
~Serge Savard~
well as it stands right now the blues are scoring more goals than we are so maybe you might wanna reassess where your going with this
Now St. Louis is a weak team? LOL.
Mr.Bob Gainey wanted to change the Saku Koivu mentality in the room. For this, he ABSOLUTELY had to get another playmaker/non-stop-passer to replace him so that OTHERS would join come Jul 1st.
Now, I’m not naive enough to think that so’n'so and such’n'such would rush to join us for the chance to play with Gomie in lieu of the bigger money we offered, but it certainly HELPS a scorer who IS pondering to join come to the conclusion that no matter what, he WILL get chances to score with Gomie beside’m. So, no doubt if you are a sniper, you would be appeased in that regard.
So much so, that the REAL reason we say Gomie isn’t playing up to snuff is BECAUSE his linemates aren’t getting chances to score, or not as much as they should with him on their line.
Gomie has BRILLIANT vision. Brilliant. Obviously, he hasn’t been directing it properly so far. He is also an EXTRAORDINARY passer. Better than Saku, imo, from what I’ve seen him do on OUR team only. Unfortunately, his passes aren’t connecting, and when they do, Gio, snakebit, has been whiffin on’em.
He’s a veteran. He’s a great playmaker. And he brought it when it was all on the line. We’re 1st in the NE. His crappy play isn’t making us lose so for these reasons, I give him a pass.
For now.
Spuriously furious, I swear as
L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com
You can blame whom ever you want stats don’t lie….half of the habs have 5 points or less after 14 games….if you want to call that productive….go for it.
The Rocket is not buying it.
Well, my take is…The team isnt that good, its alright, but it needs a devastating PP to get slightly above average. The problems were there last year also, but they were blessed with a touch of magic there for a while. No I wont name names lol
[Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.
I’m teetering on avoiding the site permanently. And while I’m sure it would give some trolls a great deal of satisfaction, and I wouldn’t enjoy them getting that gratification, it’s becoming quite a struggle to enjoy this place anymore with the quantity of obvious posts which are designed to incite anger from people who actually want the Habs to win.
I hear you- I’ve been away for a few days with the birth of our first child, and I come back to the same old troll-tastic threads.
Just another Sunday night on HIO I guess.
You match player to player – are you saying (on paper) the Blues are a superior team?
I had to laugh….that’s a good one
Again, the “greatest goalie in the NHL™” would have had to beat “the greatest coach in the NHL™”.
Wouldn’t that have caused a tear in the time/space continuum?
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“Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”
~Serge Savard~
I don’t mind the Halak trade that much anymore….
Price is doing fine and Halak is doing great in St-Louis.
I’m more concerned at what we got in return… Eller… that is the real problem. St-Louis are probably really laughing at PG right now. We could have got an player that would have helped the team right now, not in 5 years…
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Canadien en 5!
Never go Full Retard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svwGRJA28lY&feature=related
Congratulations. For the kid’s sanity, let him or her cheer for the Predators.
Yes. I picked them to go to the Finals with Mason as their goaltender last season.
I wonder what the Rocket would do in this situation?
you mean like what florida got for luongo?
Steven Stamkos had 4 points in his first 17 games in the NHL. Those points came in just 2 games, back to back. Not saying Eller is Stamkos, far from it, but lets wait 5 damn minutes before saying he’s a bust, because for the most part he’s been getting chances and playing damn well.
Eller needs another year in the AHL – that fact is becoming painfully obvious with every shift.
Don’t forget, we also got a goon from the blues, an a 25 dollar gift card for TGI Fridays.
Or Nashville got for Vokoun.
Aww shucks. I’m glad you liked the abstractness of it.
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“Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”
~Serge Savard~
The greatest coach most likely cannot exist if he doesnt have the greatest goalie making him the greatest coach. The greatest goalie however can exist with confidence without the greatest coach.
[Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.
I don’t think he is a bust – I just think he needs solid mins in the AHL.
i picture a sea of left handed nailclippers at dawn
Congrats man! Ours just turned 20 months – you are going to be amazed how fast time flies.
That’s what Barry Melrose said about Stamkos.
For someone “not” comparing Eller to Stamkos……
Therefore the goalie has the power to expose the greatest coach as an imposter!
[Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.
It gets better after wins.
That’s a little hard when both are on opposite teams.
Unless you know of some conspiracy theory where they share their “greatness™” on the down low!?
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“Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”
~Serge Savard~
Wow…really?
Your high is better than mine.
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“Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”
~Serge Savard~
Interesting.
Marginally, and only because those trolls don’t want to come around and eat humble pie.
It’s sickening.
Well to compare Halak and Price you have to put them with the same team, and Halak didn’t want that. The closest thing you can do is take Halak’s career with the Habs, and that includes his best period when he was older and more experienced than Price. Halak was 2.62GAA and .919. Price was younger but close to that with 2.73 GAA and .912. Not much between them. This year the Habs are slow out the gate. Price is 2.45GAA and .911 better than Halak’s career Montreal numbers at his best.
So really, right now, that is sort of the end of the issue. Price is better.
2) I agree with what you said, on the nights he shows up! Which i would say is 1/5 games. Most night he just looks like he floating out there, if you watch any of the games u have to agree
3) of course i know gomez isn’t a goal scorer!! My point is, he only shoots if he is within 5 feet of the net!
bhahahahahahah
and bring back how he couldn’t keep it in the offensive zone and his defensive lapses?
and then tampa fired melrose and stamkos developed, hmmmm…..
what about what the Islanders got for Luongo?
Hockey is what’s called a team game.
Some tough games coming up, starting on Tuesday.
Nice post. I hate you big shots and your facts!
That being said, you didn’t answer the question.
Would the “greatest goalie in the NHL™” have beaten “the greatest coach in the NHL™” if he had signed here?
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“Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.”
~Serge Savard~
I was at the game with Tinordi and his fight was probably the best I’ve seen, just toe-to-toe both players throwing punches. There was also a scary moment where he got hit from behind and was down for a bit but he seemed to be ok.
Hockey is what’s called a team game.
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Still pretty bipolar/manic-depressive. It’s amazing how hysterical people can get.
BTW, bobrovsky’s play at 7 W’s in a row fails.
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It’s just a game.
OK, so you want to know whats wrong with our team right now…. I can tell you. It’s simple.
AK 0 points in the last 5 games
Gomez 0 points in the last 5 games
Cammi 2 assists in the last 5 games
Gionta 1 goal, 1 assist in the last 5 games
Pleks 4 points in the last 5 games (this isnt that bad, but its by far our BEST top 2 line player)
__________ ? points in the last 5 games
We don’t have a 6th top 2 line forward. Pouliot is the player, but his line is so effective there is no reason to break it up.
Its nothing TERRIBLE. We aren’t going to die…. In fact it CLEARLY shows how good a job BG and PG did to give this team depth. These guys will start producing.
Our biggest problem is our players are streaky. AK, Cammi, Pouliot, etc etc…
My observation from yesterday’s game was this. We are not playing at the same speed. Gomez and his line mates aren’t connecting, the pass is either a split second early or late, and the player receiving is either a split second early or late. Same thing with Pleks’ line, split second early or late.
As soon as we get back into the same groove we will be producing.
You know each team goes thru these slumps. We should be happy we are still leading, despite the fact we aren’t playing great hockey. But people don’t realize that this is when we see how good a job a coach does. He wins games when the team isnt playing great. This is when we need our goalie to play great, and he has.
So keep comparing us to the Blues, and Lightning and whoever else you want… Always have, first it was Ryder, then AK, Tanguay, Higgins, Souray, Streit, Moore, D’Ags BALH BLAH BLAH. Really any player with some immediate success. Same people saying we should have traded them 5 month earlier… And of course, in the end we NEVER EVER get enough for the players. The Habs are the only team in the NHL that ALWAYS makes bad trades, WE CAN ALWAYS GET EVERYTHING ANY FAN CAN THINK OF FOR ALL OUR GARBAGE…
Im happy so far. We haven’t hit the high gear, and are still doing very very well…. Try to remember all you bashers didn’t think we would even make the playoffs….
There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…
kvasha ftw
You just want someone too listen too you about how much you know bout the Habs AND how little any one else knows and here’s were your problems lay….your almost constantly wrong and you find it very frustrating but when there’s a game in which can back your action(1 in 10)you go outta your way to bash and call down other fans and look for more wolves to help you go in for a vicious kill and now it’s once again back firing on you,eh? Ya, I’m gonna miss you very much….buh bye.
Who the f*ck are you to judge?
As I mentioned above, arbitration elligible.. Halak would have gotten more money if he had stayed here and gone through the arbitration process.
This is why money in fact plays a major role in Gauthiers thought process.
We had so many winners and prises Johnathan, I missed out who picked the tickets of yours, but I am going to get all the winners to post on the Summit site, what the won. I do know that they were picked first, second or third. Every time we drew a winning ticket, they went up and picked the prize that they wanted.
anybody else OCD and having a bad reaction to daylight savings lol
No better place to learn to be the best than in the NHL. He is a young rookie with lots of potential. Who cares about his production in the short term.
There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…
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cool, i just want to give a heads up to NOT listen to the ushers when they say they are better off going in by 109
108
108
Can’t disagree – we need production from the top 6. I wish they would leave a line together for more then three periods. How can you “find” chemistry after only a game?
Tom Nickle
No – but he has not cost us any – huge improvement from last season.
Wow, Looks like a few of you had no fun on the weekend. I will sit back and watch some Sunday night football and let the inmates run the asylum.
You calling me constantly wrong made my involvement tonight worth it. Easily the funniest thing I’ve read here in a long time.
I don’t believe I’ve made a generalized statement that would be supported or refuted by 1 game out of 10 or nine games out of ten as it were in your eyes.
With posts like yours, I’m motivated to stick around because they’re always good for a laugh.
Thanks, and keep it up!
Trap game for the Packers. Hopefully Clay Matthews can make it a tough night for Jon Kitna.
Pack by 10 and JJ blows his top.
I think if they only lose by 10 he’ll consider it a moral victory.
If the Bills weren’t worse you could pencil them in for Andrew Luck.
I suppose they could still move up for the pick, I imagine it would take quite a bit though.
Or do the Bills hitch their wagon to Fitzpatrick and trade out of the pick because of Ralph Wilson’s hesitation to spend big money on a first overall pick.
Man I’m glad that I’m not a Bills fan.
He has small mans syndrome – I feel bad for Tom to be honest.
Just to recapitulate in my own terms what I hear a number of the heavyweight posters saying below: we are right now in a much better situation than we were during the Saku Koivu years (and some time before.)
If I correctly sum those commentors up, I completey agree. I will take this collection of players over the, say, decade, previous to last season any frikkin’ day. I do not want those days back. I want these days. And these are the still early days of this season of these days.
I have good reason to feel hopeful about the outcome of this season. That’s good enough for me.
Yeah. Because I’ve done things like posted pictures of my children in an attempt to gain sympathy from fellow members.
I’ve gone to such lengths as to start fights and then call others bullies.
I’ve posted pictures of players of the Canadiens organization with cigarettes in their mouths and I’ve certainly accused the goaltender of depression and alcohol abuse.
Somebody who does the things I’ve mentioned above is a pathetic excuse for a human being Adam. Exploiting your own child, being the little rat in the schoolyard who runs around in an attempt to start fights and get out of the way while others are duking it out and making false accusations about others which call their mental health and stability into question. That’s what you do Adam. All of those things.
You can feel bad for me all you want. I’m proud of the person I am, I don’t need to do things like you do to make myself feel better about who I am. Your pathetic use of other people in attempts to build yourself up are pattern characteristics of somebody who is anti-social and insecure.
The comment you just posted was only an attempt to anger me. That’s how pathetic you are.
Im waiting to pull the triger on the Bills and use them for a upset pick one week like I did today with the Browns. McCoy is the real deal and I like this Hills guy. The Bills could win on November 14.
I had the Lions as my upset pick.
You notice that the Jets and Giants seem to be on the right end of almost every call in every football game they play?
My vote for post of the year!!!
I think McCoy can be a Hasselbeck, nothing more. Not that it’s a bad thing.
Hmmm McCoy has better feet. As far who the Bills will pick I see it coming down 1 out of the 3 QB’S Mallet, Luck and Locker. I still feel Locker will be the better pro when all said and done.
Locker may end up being the better professional but Luck will go #1 I think.
Think Jim Harbaugh makes the jump to the NFL? San Fran maybe?
Are you kidding me? When I first created my account – I put a pic of my daughter up. You disagreed with one of my hockey takes – and you insulted her (a 9 month old). This move showed your true colours.
The bottom line is this – You can’t debate hockey without calling people stupid and pathetic - this is nothing more then a deflection of your own lack of real world confidence / short comings. This make you an insecure a$$hole.
hal gill sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought maybe you would call me a term you used a couple of weeks ago.
What was it again Adam?
Oh right, you called somebody a stain. Not just any stain. I guess I don’t need to say anything else.
Again, you come back with the I just signed up and that bully Tom Nickle attacked me.
But before the thread had even expired people were calling you out for the very things I just mentioned.
Had a blast and a half. Thanks a million again IAN!
“I know you’re wise beyond your years, but do you ever get the fear that your perfect verse is just a lie you tell yourself to help you get by?”
So VancouverHab,what do you figure will be the outcome and score against the Canucks?
If you know my posts, you know I am a supporter… JM, BG, PG, Price, Gomez, etc, etc….
That being said, I was wondering myself last game how putting a different line out there each time is a good thing. I know in a game like the last one, when nothing is working, then throw out something different. No problem. But it is true. I am wondering if mixing and matching is the way to get the players to produce.
I say give em the time together and wait it out. Our BIG players will turn it up against tougher competition. I think playing to tougher teams will shake us out of our slump.
There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…
Unfortunate prospect news:
Louis Leblanc was injured during Saturday night’s match against the Quebec Ramparts and while he played through the injury, he will miss out on partaking in the Subway Super Series against the top Russian prospects when they match off against the best of the Q according to Shaun Starr of the Team 990.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
Same way it always goes, we beat them in our barn and we lose in theirs later in the year.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
You can’t debate hockey without calling people stupid and pathetic - this is nothing more then a deflection of your own lack of real world confidence / short comings. This make you an insecure a$$hole.
So your retort to the above is “I know you are, but what am I”. Just outstanding work. 5 star.
I figure that I have just returned from WalMart with a peck of antacids, a blindfold, earpugs, and gravol!
This is less wishy-washy than it sounds, but I think that we will either get blown away (6-1) or we will win 3-0 (incl. empty-net goal.)
Canucks are not the real thing (or, they haven’t proven themselves so) but coach & goalie have a lot to play for when in Montreal. JM could in principle put together a game-plan to neutralise their top line, and Luongo can obviously be gotten to. A statement game from Gomez & Gionta would help: and Price has Vancouver-pride to play for too.
Thanks for asking. What about you?
So he had one lousy game. Lay. Off.
“I know you’re wise beyond your years, but do you ever get the fear that your perfect verse is just a lie you tell yourself to help you get by?”
1? maybe 1 good game.
BUT hes been better then Spacek all year, and a bit better theN Hammer.
This team is a definite step up from previous years. Like 18 or so previous years. Is it a contender yet? No. Still some critical pieces to add, some upcoming CAP space to use to our advantage and some talented rookies and vets we may use as trade bait if the right opportunities present themselves. We’ve seen in the recent past how focused, successful and exciting this team can be whether sparked by stellar goaltending, solid defense or spectacular scoring. Good enough for me too.
the russians will get creamed…
until they finally develop real coaches along with a normal d-corp and a more then 1 goalie.. russia will stink it up internationally
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88 is the new 23
If you haven’t already deleted your account and started another one in embarassment, sure, I will. I love saving people’s dumbest predictions for later. See you in June, troll!
Totally agree with you about Spacek. Those of us who attended the summit and therefor happened to be at the game got to see Spacek’s first goal of this season (and the Habs first of the evening). We were stunned. And then he resumed his usual habits of falling down, missing the puck, passing to the wrong team, etc.
Can we throw Moen under the bus while we’re talking about players who aren’t playing their best?
“I know you’re wise beyond your years, but do you ever get the fear that your perfect verse is just a lie you tell yourself to help you get by?”
so Halak shutting out another team tonight, beating NYR. so will that be his 4th or 5th shutout?
oh yes Price has a grand total of 1.
yup habs definitely got the best of that deal.
Gotta love this, this guy’s more honest about Russian hockey than most of the blowhard ‘experts’ on RDS about the Q.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
Man I thought I was getting chewed on today…
“To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”
He’s quite amazing that Halak. Earning a shutout while sitting on the bench like that.
“Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
if your trolling
brilliant
if your serious
fail
You numbnuts, he isn’t even playing. Maybe it’s the Blues that are pretty good, huh? Who would have thought?
that would be his fourth shutout, but Conklin is in nets
Who suggested the habs ‘won’ that deal?
Also let’s not go into price versus halak, given NO goaltender can solve the habs current scoring drought. 10 saves, 20 saves, 100 saves – if the puck isn’t going into the other net the game isn’t going to be won.
if you’re serious
win
Out of curiosity: did anyone happen to catch the nhl.com video replay of the physical/verbal altercation that took place saturday night between Crybaby Crosby and Getzlaf? http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=35&id=81665
Crosby is lucky that he was on the bench and couldn’t be thrown into the penalty box for not keeping his trap shut.
“I know you’re wise beyond your years, but do you ever get the fear that your perfect verse is just a lie you tell yourself to help you get by?”
I was amped when we signed Moen, hard-working farm boy with a ring. I know he’s scored a few clutch goals for us (that beauty on Gonchar in the playoffs?), but I too find him to be invisible more often than not.
I’ll save you a spot on the bandwagon when he’s blocking shots with his teeth in the playoffs again. He’s the type of player that excels in the playoffs. He’s average during the rest of the year. The guy’s earned my respect, and I don’t think he’s been that bad this season
Well as much as I would love a complete thrashing of the Nucks by our blue,blanc et rouge and I haven’t seen any Vancouver game’s(all the Habs games is good nuff) I have seen their move’s to improve and feel they will be real tough on our boy’s.The Nucks forwards will be tough for our old man D to contain and god forbid they play roughhouse cus Moen vs all of em is going to be painful to watch.
I will say this …The HABS NEED TO BEAT THIS TEAM! And in order not too piss of any Hab fans I won’t mention how lopsided I figure the score on this game will go against us…. Mind you if TomNickle say’s the Nucks are going to win then my money’s on the Habs;)
Crosby get a little full of himself after that last fight? Getzlaf would have obliterated him.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
well from our perspective that would be epic win
Price is better? Price is better than expected, I am not complaining, but better than Halak? Halak just ran 150 minutes without giving up one freaking goal and he’s won six games in a row. Someone posted that Price won 7 in a row in his rookie year – and then took the next 2 years off to pat his back.
You can like Price, you can buy his jersey, you can cheer for him, hell I’m cheering for him I want him to be great. But reality, inconvenient as it is, is reality. He’s not better than Halak right now.
wait till the end of the season when Halak wins the Vezina trophy and tell me how well we did.
bet by then Eller is in Hamilton.
Nice try dear troll, but no Halak tonight!!
“I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
- Bilbo Baggins
wait till the end of the season when Halak wins the Vezina trophy and tell me how well we did.
bet by then Eller is in Hamilton.
congrats on almost being an almost 10 hour member… condolences about being from windsor
AGAIN !…..ARGggggggggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no, I’m just surprised he puts online-dating pictures of himself on a hockey forum
Gold, gold I tell ya! haha.
Ouch
You know what, as much as Gomez makes me insane you make a good point. There’s almost a tradition of scorers in their later years transitioning into more defensive type players, obviously Gainey, Carbo, Skrudland, are classic Habs examples.
If Gomez was working like that I would be ok with him (though maybe not the $7M) but it’s his stupid rushes that go nowhere and his waiving his stick at attackers like that’s going to scare them… that makes me nuts.
“To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”
question to few of u.
1: Does anyone else think we could use someone that could fight? Moen can only get beat up so much, and we all know lap can’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
2: Trade AK46 while we can get something? The guy has no heart. Look at gonita, Half his size and goes the net with the best of them. He isn;t going to resign in the off season anyways. I think Pleks could skate backwards faster then AK46 forward just on pure effort!
3: Whats with gomez? The guy needs to shoot some. He gets part-breakaways and instead of going to the net hard and getting a shot he spins off and looks for the trailer. also when he gains the zone, he will skate to the top of the circle, maybe only just get into the zone, stop look for the pass…. EVERYTIME. If i can see it, imgaine what the other teams are thinking
Comments?
PS : Everyone shut the F up about Halak, he is gone. What can we do about it now? Fire the GM, come on, the trade needs time to play out. Just count your lucky stars that he is in the west.. END OF STORY! LET IT GO FFS
Watching the Cowboys lose is just as great as watching the Leafs lose. As a Bills fan this gives me something. This Cowboys team is more pityful than the Bills are, and the Leafs are as bad as the Habs have ever been.
You bring up a good point Bugs.
But MAB’s role and Weber’s role would be very similar. Little 5 on 5 ice time, lots of PP time (as both are defensive liabilities…Weber’s still learning in that aspect of the game).
Between the 2, I’d pick MAB, so Weber’s development isn’t interrupted.
We can definitely use Weber next year when Gill and Hamrlik leave. Spacek leaves the season after that as well.
or put them on a pairing together so MAB can pass on the ol’ mantle … eek.
Sorry to burst the “Weber” bubble , but I don’t think he will ever be a top 4 d-man in the NHL. Having posted that I hope I’m wrong. BTW I watched the last 2 periods last night and was I dreaming or did PK and Laps not see much ice time in the 3rd. period?
Since when does a player have to be a top 4 d-man in order to contribute in the NHL on the pp? Was MAB a top 4 guy?? Hell no.
i was uh.. joking. not necessarily about weber though.
So what the heck is Yannick Weber for?
Spuriously furious, I swear as
L.Bugs Potter, esq. Minority Owner of the Habbalicious Bubble-Gum Emporium, Proprietor of the Flanneltop Pop Shop, and Beaming Tenant in Mama’s Basement, i.e., Habsbros Central: http://habsbros.blogspot.com
Tell that to Reverend Cherry who was happy we stuck with the loser Price and threw away our winning goalie, only time Cherry praises Montreal is when they make crappy moves. Cherry saying lets wait and see if Halak was a flash in the pan, well fans in Montreal know Halak earned his wins the hard way, the only way, by working hard. Tell that to the stats happy Pricebots.
Oh before I forget, shout-out to JasonM for slipping me one of his extra raffle tickets when it looked like I wasn’t going to get called at all for the raffle at the Summit yesterday, now I’ve got a signed copy of Todd Denault’s new book, The Greatest Game about the New Year’s Eve Habs-Red Army match.
Props man.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
dude who got my friggin tickets man why are you doggin me dog?
Another Halak shutout…….that kid is awesome…..
Check again, it was Ty Conklin, guess just about anyone can get a shutout there.
Hockey is what’s called a team game.
Enough St. Louis talk.
Louis Leblanc. 13th in scoring, and he has missed a bunch of games: http://lhjmq.leaguestat.com/fr/stats/statdisplay.php?type=top_scorers&season_id=82
I don’t know! I don’t think I really spoke to either person who managed to get Habs tickets. I’m sure they’ll come around to gloat sooner or later.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
lol thanks
Learn to add, I was 7.
Gotta love when the trolls don’t even check the stat sheet.
I snagged the Habs vs. Preds tix!
I’m wondering who picked up the signed pic of GUY that I brought. Behind the pic is a certification of authenticity!
Conklin was in nets!
Ck
If any of you care, Saku scored 2 goals and his 700th point tonight.
Paul Mara scored the winner, his first in 10 years.
“To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”
Got to love it when self professed hockey experts like you think Eller for Halak was a great deal…..
Trolls? For just reporting something, in this case erroneously. You all are a bunch of jealous idiots, for not seeing what some of us saw about Halak being a future great. Halak is what all of you fools wanted Price to be and isn’t. No matter what, we get the shitty end of the stick for Gauthiers ignorance. And to sll those who supported it, you should be ashamed and really should shut your mouths from here on out.
Troll
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
Carey’s been playing great. I’m really happy to see him doing so well and maturing into the goalie we hoped he’d be.
Now if we can give him the support he needs, the sky’s the limit.
I don’t mind seeing our guys slumping a bit offensively now. It means we’ll keep working at it, and get it right for later in the season when it’s most needed.
Who is responisble for our miserable power-play? We seem to be getting some chances, but it’s not a very organized system. We need to get that shnizz together and soon, because it’s getting boring not appealing for penalties anymore because it no longer matters if we have a power play or not.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
HEY CHRIS
those are my seats, congrats
please enjoy the game and i hope we win
just wander in like you own the place
plus the seats are in the area where habs management gives tickests to family and friends of opposing teams, so there is a lot of trash talk (ive met adam foot’s mom, nigel dawes dad, darcy tucker’s girlfriend, sam ganger’s sister and so on) so be prepared for the berrating in the area
also the ushers may tell you that going in 109 is a better option, it aint, 108 ftw
if you smoke though, leave before the last whistle or your screwed
again enjoy
Good for him!
I’m sure he’s enjoying playing with Teemu (who’s on fire!)
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Thats awesome for SAKU!
still my favorite hab of all time
Ck
manapart you are now defending crediting conklins shutout as being halak’s
are you aware you are doing this?
Booooooooorrrrrrrrriiiiiiiinnnnnnngggggg….
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Price has been decent. 23rd in save %, so nothing overly special, but good enough. The offense is very predictable. Gauthier never upgraded a team that was weak and one dimensional against Phily. I told you numbskulls that this team had major holes, but a lot of you regular delusional folks couldn’t see it. Where here you are. We got Boston and Vancouver this week, so look out.
Why is there a talk about goalies? We dont’ have a goalie problem. We have a brain dead management, a useless coach and a bunch of overpaid players who just float around and try pretty plays instead of driving the net problem.
Please don’t comment on my posts.
Name-calling is juvenile and unwelcome and you’re doing too much of it.
Grow up and change your tone.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Try with your pathetic comebacks, point is Halak is what I and others thought and Gauthier got robbed with No goal Eller. It very well may turn out to be just as bad a trade as Roy. I knew this, tried to warn you guys, but you guys no nothing about hockey just as I’ve always said. No more bs from you punks….Sorry been drinking a little lol.
I may not be sure of a lot of things, but I say this with utmost confidence, I am not, in any way shape or form, jealous of you, in any sense. You can go ahead and pat yourself on the back, fact of the matter is, it’s november 7th, way to early to say any of the stuff you are preaching. We are not fools, and we will not shut our mouths for supporting our team and our goalie.
“I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
- Bilbo Baggins
…so nice to see you.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
WHOAH pathetic comebacks? i think i spoke to you reasonably
its obvious youve been drinking because you didnt read what the f&ck i wrote
you supported the notion that conklin’s shutout was halak’s
not sure about the trade tirade
* See andrew, Tom, et al..
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
… and I know you do mean it
Sorry about calling you guys numbskulls and delusional, but I can’t help my frustration from knowing exactly what would happen and having many of you, more importantly Gauthier, not see what was so obvious. I knew this as well as gomez trade was detrimental to the team. People don’t listen and when I’m proven right (it didnt take a genius to see what I said), it’s very disappointing.
A little? Masking your personal issues with hockey issues? What have we done to you to deserve your ire? Don’t bother answering, I’m going to sleep.
get rid of ‘em all….and hire the Flames staff (much better)…*sarcasm.
how can all you clowns call yourselves fans; when all you do is covet other teams’ players and mgmt.
“our braindead” management has acheived a fourth place finish and is currently first in the division.
I can’t imagine what would have been said if we were to have switched places with Washington last spring…
Stop griping about “your” sports team and get a life.
I BLEED BLEU BLANC ET ROUGE!!!
you should really take your recommendations to Habs management. I’m sure they’d listen better than we do.
I BLEED BLEU BLANC ET ROUGE!!!
Nice~! I’m looking forward to it.
I’ve got to bring along the girlfriend so probably no shouting matches that night haha
who was hotter sam gagner’s sis or adam footes mom?!?
Ck
but considering your always wrong, about like everything, its funny that it you gets you angry that people dont join you on your always wrong bandwagon
Sorry, i better leave now. I’m a little angry and you’re a decent chap as well as almost all of you guys. I don’t mean to get personal. I’m kind of an emotional guy and am frustrated with management and their longevity more than anything. Have a nice night. Talk to you when I’M MORE REASONABLE.
TROLL
I BLEED BLEU BLANC ET ROUGE!!!
st louis is a good team, its not by any means just the halak show, conklin gets shut outs there. if theres anything to be jealous about here, its not having a narrow mind.
Burke got robbed and so did the championship GM with Byfuglien…
I BLEED BLEU BLANC ET ROUGE!!!
Right on Timo. We share the same viewpoint on exactly who is to blame for years of mediocrity. Players come and go but it is the dysfunctional and archaic management team that remains intact. Excellence like in Detroit starts at the top.
It has never been about Price vs Halak or Gomez and his albatross of a contract. They are just diversions to make the season interesting. The problem will always remain until the old boy’s club is turfed out. Maybe Geoff Molson is too much of a fan and not enough of a pragmatist. I really thought he might start fresh with some new blood. And by new blood I don’t necessarily mean young, although nothing wrong in that, but rather new ideas from OUTSIDE the Montreal organization. This team has stagnated for years and needs some thinking outside the box.
If is frustrating as a fan to witness but until ownership sees the light, mediocrity is the order of the day.
We are NOT trolls but fans who want some REAL change for the better.
‘Cogito ergo doleo’
get some sleep bro
Lets be real here. I’m way more right than I am wrong, especially about the major issues. But I digress
Good for Saku, and my pool!
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
you tried to warn us guys eh? well gosh darnit, how come none of us called gauthier “excuse me mister gauthier, but some stoner? on HIO is warning us that if you trade halak (which nobody saw coming when he did it) it will be as bad or worse than trading roy”
oh cool, you’re drunk and ranting on the internet, i bet your hand is hiding behind your zipper and your blinds are closed.
problem is, the kveching about ridiculous things that murks the waters and tripple, you dont do you or the trolls favours
Nieuwendyk for Iginla was a steal for Dallas at the time….how many would think that now.
All you geeks can only think of the now. Keep flicking your tv channels 100 miles an hour,
I BLEED BLEU BLANC ET ROUGE!!!
22nd overall pick D Jarred Tinordi from this year’s draft with the London Knights has his first OHL fight.
I’d say he took an even decision, he managed quite a few blows.
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
Don’t know Footes mom, went to the rival highschool of Gagners sis, knew her through a cousin who was a friend of hers. I can safetly say she wins.
“I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
- Bilbo Baggins
Thanks for the heads up! Saku will always be my captain even if that other fellow wears his number.
Wonder if his high priced replacement will score two goals this year?
‘Cogito ergo doleo’
as compared to Loafs, Booins, Senaturds; or 80% of other teams. I’d say not damn bad.
I BLEED BLEU BLANC ET ROUGE!!!
we were in no position to beat the caps or the penguins last season, your words man, which is brutal,
trading halak, was so we could sign plekanec, which you said wouldnt happen either
but what makes it ubergay, is you never man up
I’d say he’s done marginally better than Tom Da Bomb
ManApart
You really should stop your prattling. Do you realize how foolish you sound?
What exactly has happened? We are in the top ten overall and they have only played 14 games. There are 68 games to go and you have already thrown in the towel and quit. The word “Man” should not be used in your signature at any time. Try to use whatever common sense you were born with.
SAKU
Cheers man. Very well put.
A matter of opinion. What you may consider as ridiculous, I and some others feel is the main area of concern with this franchise moving forward.
If having a difference of opinion indicates a “troll” then I wear the moniker proudly.
‘Cogito ergo doleo’
I swear if I hear Halak compared to Roy one more time. That is an insult to Roy. The man had Cups and awards galore when he left here. Halak doesn’t have a damn thing. A trip to the ECF. Plan the damn parade! Oh that’s right! Roy got parades cause he won the CUP! Not lose in the ECF! But that’s right. When Halak was here, the team lost. When Price is in net, Price loses. Get your heads outta your asses.
You must be in your 20′s. Some of us remember the last 17yrs.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
Thanks for posting SeriousFan. It is good to see Tinordi get some experience scrapping as it is something that we have needed on the big club for some time. With Komi and O’Burn playing US hockey, they never became decent fighters and they ended up being big bodies that nobody was afraid of. Lets hope Tinordi becomes a beast.
i didnt call you a troll did i?
i said you feed into ridiculous notions
When i stated we could never beat those team, it was December with Price as the starter, and that team never had a prayer. Even with Halak, nobody thought that could happen, including you. Whoever says the contrary is a liar. So let’s not be hypocrites and say whoever said the Habs team with price in nets would have done what was done. You know that Halak for Pleks thing is total nonsense and I never stated we wouldn’t sign Pleks. I thought they would because without him, the Habs are screwed. With this management though, I was very worried.
definitely ganger’s sister, but shes like 16, still, she was a cutie
so your going to the preds, be prepared for jordan tootoo’s fam
You know what’s foolish? Saying the Gomez or Halak deal was a good one for the Habs rather than the Rangers or Blues among many, many other points I here on here. I’ll see you at seasons end, if it will take you that long to see what is so apparent.
if after 30 games eller still has 0 or two goals would it be a good idea to send him to hamilton for a 10-15 games stint?…even when camm and gion were scoring at 52 goal and 35 goal a season pace in the playoffs goals were a problem for us…we have pyatt who looks like 3-4 goal a season scorer…moen maybe 8 goals…many hoped lapps would show some scoring this year but looks like he is a 6-8 goal guy…pouliot and ak46 have played much better than last year but how sure are we that they will not stop producing for long stretches…. looks like the nhl is turning into a low scoring league…the teams that will do well in the playoff will have very solid goaltending,great pk and above average pp…we have to realize that the our forward line up will not score many goals this year…we will be in 20-23 range again in scoring…we have the goaltending and pk but need pp to have any chance in the playoffs…
thank you TripleX, which I trust refers to some exotic brew you enjoy.
I complain bitterly about Nomez contract and Gauthier and get insults and worse for it. Glad there are some realists like you and Timo and Serious (and others) who are trying to maintain a standard of excellence for the Habs. Good is not good enough.
Amen.
Halak made this team seem better than it is, that’s the joke.
If Price hadn’t turned it around, we would be in a spiral towards a top five draft pick… (insert comment here).
We are screwed until Gomez’ money is freed up. Of course what will Gauthier do with it then?
“To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”
Halak made this team seem better than it is, that’s the joke.
If Price hadn’t turned it around, we would be in a spiral towards a top five draft pick… (insert comment here).
We are screwed until Gomez’ money is freed up. Of course what will Gauthier do with it then?
“To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”
but its not nonsense and your still not manning up
ive manned up before and wow i still have a penis
The truth may hurt, but it is hardly “prattling”.
Who have we beaten that’s serious outside of Pittsburgh? New Jersey, in a world of hurt of their own, handed us our head on a plate.
We lost to the Cleveland freaking Barons and the Florida Panthers last weak. This is Montreal Canadiens. Don’t you have any freaking pride?
“To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”
trying to figure out why we hate Gomez so much. well last year MAB was our whipping boy, and the year before it was Brisebois.
but honestly, I was thinking about why I dislike Gomez so much, and of course it’s obvious. not about his lack of effort, tho he doesn’t do anything.
it’s the $$$$. It bothers me to no end that he gets paid as much as Ovechkin or Crosby, and is at best a 4th line center.
to think, what we could do with 8 million dollars! get 2 scorers. that’s what makes my blood curdle.
he is preventing this team from getting better, and we’re stuck with the shmuck.
can we take this guy for 4 more years? I know I can’t>
I want this team to improve and to do that, we need more talent, and we need top 6 forwards.
I don’t know how, but somehow with creativity Gomez must be gone at the end of this season.
If Sather was able to put Redden in the minors, why can’t Gauthier do the same with Gomez?
I’m sure it’s apparent to PG that Gomez can’t be allowed to stay.
c’mon Gauthier please get rid of him!
Ubergay? That’s one of your best ones yet (though we often disagree, and I’m more inclined to agree with Manparts, I can still admire your game).
“To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”
I’ve seen them practice together and at pre-season, it’s like they are on opposite ends of a string on the ice.
My son and I met him and he seams peaceful.
“To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”
right now we do not have any players in the ahl that can help this team with its biggest problem …scoring…gomez still has a much better upside than any ahl player we have…our next wave of young players look like they have much more scoring potential…right now we are paying for the organiztions love affair with the pyatt,moen type players that we picked up and also drafted a whole clone set of them in previous drafts.
Triple, examine the term you use, stagnate. The team is not stagnant compared to what it was in the late 90s and early 2000s, when all they had to hang their hat on was a huge upset of the Boston Bruins in 2002. The team under Gainey only missed the playoffs once, the farm has measurably improved (A big chunk of the Hamilton core is prospects, few career AHLers taking up space from young guns) and some very good junior prospects. I don’t think you were even watching when the team truly was a nightmare on the ice.
Everyone wants a quick fix nowadays after watching spectacular failure by other franchises get rewarded…
- I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
As exercised as I have been about Halak and Price and Nomez and Gauthier, there is NOTHING as horrific in habs history as the Roy disaster, maybe the Richard riots. We still haven’t recovered from that, I don’t think.
From reading your post, one can hardly tell that you are replying to my comments at all.
I was referring to the fact that you are a quitter at the very beginning of the season. Is this your approach to other matters as well? If you are so convinced that they will have a disastrous season, then why are you even bothering to watch? Seems like a total waste of time to me.
Gomez is frustrating, but he isn’t a 4th line center. He’s a second line center on most NHL teams. He’s a second liner here too, and paid like a 1st. It’s unfortunate, but it’s what we have for at least this year and the next.
Please explain Nomez “upside”?
One option (which someone else posted forgive me for not attributing) is that he become a Gainey/Carbo/Skrudland-like relentless checker and face-off god like Juneau. Did you see him lose that face-off in the offensive zone with 1:24 left the other night and he didn’t even tie up his man?
That at least would be valuable and honorable. Not worth $7m, but better then his mad dashes to nowhere.
“To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”
Says the conspiracy theorist.
We’ve actually not had good 5 on 5 scoring for years going back to the Carbo teams, BUT we always had KILLER power plays, with Souray and Street and even MAB.
If we can’t fix all our scoring, can’t we at least get a great point guy? It will cost us something, but it frees up Markov to set up stuff and prevents d’s from keying on him. It’s really important. Who do you guys think is out there? Man we should have kept Streit (leaving out of it that he’s badly injured).
“To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”
he can still put 50-60 points up…no one in hamilton has that ability …so putting him in hamilton as the previous poster suggested has no value ..there are no free agents to replace him for this year
What’s with Man Apart’s drunken tirade tonight? I rarely agree with him but he’s not usually so damn angry.
Thank you for not understanding my remarks and wasting my time on reading yours. You are consistent.
Can I change my handle to “always wrong” if I give you attribution?
Like Bruce Robinson wrote in Withnail and I “Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.”
kaberle? we could try weber but he looked physically over powered even in the ahl game that cbc showed…i still say mab has lots of hockey smarts and maneuverability but his lack of size caused many errors…his hockey IQ is very good but execution was poor many times…if maxpac had the same hockey sense mab has he would score 30 goals…
there are 29 “failures” a year. multiplied by 17….WOW!!! fire ‘em all!!!
I BLEED BLEU BLANC ET ROUGE!!!
did you gripe about his contract when Gomer tied game one with 12min left against Washington? Or how about when he backed the opposition on there heels when he skated through the neutral zone? Neither did I.
i’d love it if he were getting 2 mill a year, but what’s whining like a spoiled brat gonna do? especially when you whine to fans and not management directly.
I BLEED BLEU BLANC ET ROUGE!!!
Andrew your a young man,what born in 87…at four do you remember the Habs play-off run?No? Well you have nothing to be frustrated about cause you have nothing to compare that memory of the Stanley cup experience IN 92 WITH,so your not as prone to be emotional…But for some of us ,well we’d like to see the Habs WIN THE CUP BEFORE WE FC’N DIE! After all it’s been 19 + years ,eh…And when you see stupid moves like Halak for ? and Gomez big huge contract and 3 points or so ,as well as the Habs continually struggling your more prone to snap! If I was you I’d be worrying about ManApart going POSTAL!SO KEEP PICKING ON HIM AND LET’S SEE WHAT HAPPENS?…. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
The team is playing like no one is chasing their jobs.
No defence on the farm anywhere near ready to move up and really nowhere to put Gill or Spacek to make room.
The few guys in Hamilton like White and or Palushaj or Patch arent going to solve the goal scoring drought. The best they could do is try a little harder than guys like Boyd or Lapierre.
Which leads us to Lapierre. No effort, no energy, no toughness, no scoring. Why is he here? In my opinion Laps has overstayed his time and we are better off dishing him off for a 3rd rounder and moving White up to the big club.
Pouliot, Halpern and Darche know where they stand. Bust a gut, go north-south chip in a few and keep your jobs. Simple life when you are always on the bubble.
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I’m with you on Spatch. Picard should be in the line-up instead of him cuz A) he’s earned it and B) because it would be a shame to ruin the confidence he likely built early in the season. JM, please put Picard in for at least a few games, would ya?
Gill’s not going anywhere and I’m happy about that. He’s been caught a few times and it will likely happen again during the reg. season, but in the playoffs he’s one of the best shut-down Dmen in the league. Well worth his salary and I hope we re-sign him after this year for a 1-2 year deal.
I agree Laps needs to be better offensively and could throw a big check here and there and provide the team with a bit more energy, however, he’s one of the best pests in the game and we need someone like him to get in our opponents head and take them off their game. I don’t think we have anyone in Hamilton that can do what Laps does (at least not that I know of). At 900K he’s not hurting anyone.
The real problem is minimal offense from our top 2 lines and a terrible PP.
Boyd and Pyatt are interchangeable with the guys in Hamilton that you mentioned and I hope they get a call-up and provide a spark. Eller’s young and still needs to develop, and I wouldn’t be opposed to him getting sent down IF that’s what’s best for his development and confidence. He’s a long-term project and I’m down with anything that makes him a better player in the future.
- Honestly yours
Hope you guys had fun, Ian. Too bad our boys couldn’t take home the win on Saturday. RDS did show a shot outside Hurley’s after the game ended (I’m pretty sure).
- Honestly yours
Halak and Co. are hot hot hot! Good for him, my Ex-Hab.
No kidding! Really happy for Halak!! The Blues have their best start in they history!
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“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais
Nin Don’t pollute the water.
Wasn’t referring to Cup wins, that’s unrealistic.. it’s about the player turnovers and being a legit contender.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais
Nin Don’t pollute the water.
5 on 3 lose the faceoff and control of puck. 6 on 4 after pulling goalie lose control of puck all 3 times. notice how ottawa with 2 skaters less on ice attacked habs UNLIKE martin’s lay back penalty kill that is a useless waste just as the entire habs management is.
UNLIKE
amazing
gilmour is a better nod than lindros
and its the hockey hall of fame
not the what you do when your not on the ice hall of fame
if that was the case, carbo wouldnt get the nod by your own standards man
I didn’t think this team could get more pathetic than they did last night. 10 shots on net through a period and a half on home ice. Win or lose, the players need to kiss Price’s ass for keeping them in the game.
oh but it may be a hydra
dude chill
Wow wow wow lol What a shootout!!!
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
who are you talking to?
A goaltenders duel and Halak steals it.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
i suggest you watch the famous martin football like PREVENT DEFENSE that he uses in his own end and on penalty kills and just staqnd around and hope the other team eventually loses the puck. THEY CANT CLEAR THE ZONE! Ever see an ayttacking penalty kill but not here!!!!! just a coincidence all the undersized scorers slump at the same time OR have all the teams found out how to end their threat? i8 think the latter. gionta is being run over by everyone as oare the others. the 4th line and price are the only reasons the record still isnt bad BUT IT SOON WILL BE. Worst gms in hockey – gauthier a 30 year loser!
wow wow wow imagine if halak had this team minus pleks, as you would prefer
there should be a petition to get this moron IP banned from the site. really, he brings nothing.
clearly its markov’s fault
me?
2-1 in a shootout. one of halak’s worst performances this year. good thing habs got eller for him.
Great move by Martin to take Kostitsyn off of the line with Cammalleri and Plekanec. And yes, Gomez still sucks! Another great game for Price though.
First star tonight our best friends the refs another crooked game. I guess it’s ok to run the goalie through the back of the net. Funny how the refs miss nothing on the Habs but with a ref standing behind the net and watch Kelly run Price over. Once again Mr. Molson you team has been cheated and you stand there and count your ticket money with no back bone and a yellow strip down your back big enough to land a 747. Mr. Molson your are a coward , your a disgrace to the Canadiens not to stand up to the NHL and call out the BS this team had to deal with over the last year and this year.
poorly coached and poorly managed team. an absolute disgrace!
First star tonight our best friends the refs another crooked game. I guess it’s ok to run the goalie through the back of the net. Funny how the refs miss nothing on the Habs but with a ref standing behind the net and watch Kelly run Price over. Once again Mr. Molson you team has been cheated and you stand there and count your ticket money with no back bone and a yellow strip down your back big enough to land a 747. Mr. Molson your are a coward , your a disgrace to the Canadiens not to stand up to the NHL and call out the BS this team had to deal with over the last year and this year.
they won some playoff games without him too if you remember.
I didn’t say that but they are not playing the way they did before he came back.
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are you suggesting the owner run on down onto the ice with a foldable chair, WWE style?
also HUH?
only a moron would enjoy watching tonights game unless of course you hated the habs and want this bad management to continue here.
Just remember what you said before this year is over Halak will be expose , he too small and the flyers proved it last year .
Goalposts and crossbars were good friends to Jaro lol. That Boyes deke on Rask was golden.
Baby-face Oshie is one tough customer.. levelled Chara, Ference, Stuart, and sends Krejci to the locker room! Otherwise a hard fought win in Boston.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
Eller benched? Wow Martin that is so uncalled for. Why don’t you bench Subban while you’re at it? God forbid you bench Lapierre or Pyatt. Have you forgotten who we gave up for Eller? I don’t think I need to remind you. Bah. Boo. =(
i do now that you mention it
therefore, now that i stroke my beard, we lost cuz of markov
Kelly run over Price – excusable. No penalty.
Lapierre reacting to Kelly running Price over – Penalty.
Hmm…
how dare you say that? you should be banned. no criticism of this great hockey managed team who havent even made the cup finals in nearly 18 that eighteen years.
?? I said what?? Halak too small? He’s 8-1-1.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
what are you saying man really
my name is john, talk to me, i dont think anyone here enjoyed tonights game nor do i think most here hate the habs, BUT, you feign reaction like your unfamiliar with the sport
No relation. Dumb comment. NEXT
ill let go after you guys do
YES! Steel chair to the refs head. First victim: Chris Lee.
Halak and Co. are still running on 5th gear – No.1 of Western Conference, good for him.
as of late in second ott 25 shots habs 13 now 14 tell me if boucher was coach it would be this with the same players? better be 2-1?
And what does the left side of your Brain say?….And ya we would of lost Plecs…sure….no other options,PLEASE!
Brian Burke is that you?
No I expect the owner to say enough is enough all we ask for is to be treated equal on the ice and that is not happening. The refs don’t care about the Habs because they know they will never hear a thing . Its so easy just give the other team their powerplays and next to nothing for the Habs and the refs are good they won’t get crap on. Its just so easy the other team onwer won’t complain to the NHL and the Habs owneship will never ever say again thing against the refs. Hey the refs make a very good living don’t upset the team that will complain about you and threaten your job.
Habs can’t score with the powerplay anyways!!!!!!!
Pyatt has been scratched a few times. And you are not saying Suban and Eller are equals are you? No real comparison there. Right? Eller had played every game and has done little. He’ll get chances and he’s had chances.
So I am happy that Kovalev got the winning goal,( he is the only SENS player that I like) and I know in the 2nd period when Price made the great saves, and he and Kovi had words Kovi wished he still played for Mtl cause at leat we make it exciting! GIONTA as I called it finally scored, now all we need is for GOMEZ to get out of his contract of the fanciest skater(he thinks he is skating for the Ice Capades) and score some goals!
Keep up the good work, Georges, Price, PK, Gill, Plekanec, AK, Cammi, Hammrlik, Markov, Moen, Spacek, Darche, Pyatt, Halpern, Eller, Lapierre, Spacek, Gionata, Gomez and if I forgot anyone, they better step it up cause I only remenber the players who go the extra step!
Also coach JM should give Picard and OB a chance!
If you guys are talking 14:29 in the first, my word you guys are pansies. Subban put him into the net. The refs should have stopped the play because there was no way for Price to get up and play after that with him standing there, but the Sen couldn’t move or he would have put his skate through price’s leg. Laps dropped his gloves, probably after he was told to leave him alone by the refs. He made a choice to send a message to not touch the goalie.
I thought they played better than their last back to back games. Considering they were in Buffalo last night, it could’ve been worse.
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It’s just a game.
Splitting up Pleks and AK is the dumbest move. Our first 2 lines are a mess.
You’re not going to cry are you? It sounds an awful lot like you’re about to cry.
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Geez! Everyone is at the Summit except me and the trolls!!!!!
whats even worse is your inability to know when to use caps or where the return button is…
games still on btw
You’re awful quick at throwing around “Dumb comment” without offering any justification.
I can call you rude, you can call me an idiot, but I can back mine up. Care to back up “No relation”?
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WTF is JM doin in splitting up our only line that was producing in ak-plex and cammy??WTF SERIOUSLY
Now its just a mess.No one scores and pp is non existant.So is cammy.WAKE UP CAMMY.
GOMEZ is a dud…Gio is trying….
IM SOLD ….we need to make changes.NOW.
its like youve never seen a hockey game in your life, yes, brutal to watch, they have to get organized, but games like these happen for every team
chill out man
I’m sorry, are you criticizing the 6th top PK in the NHL?
http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?fetchKey=20112ALLAAAAll&sort=penaltyKillPercentage&viewName=penaltyKill
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I think you should lay off the crack Kelly ran Price no one pushed him.
Price played great, we had a lot of great chances throughout the game, the result could have easily gone the other way. This is just not our night.
We really really need to do something with our PP though, with PK we should at least match last few year’s output… What if we pull PK out of our PP units? lol
I just watched it on my PVR in replay at x0.5 speed five times. Subban pushed him in, every time, every angle. He’s vertical, Subban’s arm extends, he goes into the net.
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Just watching the Hotstove on the CBC and the talking about all the players that are eligible for the Hall of Fame and no one mentioned Carbonneau. HE DESERVES TO BE IN!
I don’t care who wins as long as Toronto doesn’t!
THIS GAINEY/GAUTHIER AND THEIR COACHES have ruined or messed up every single talented young habs player in the organization and why for “COINCIDENCE” Max pac said to the press purposely hed rather play all year in hamilton than(what he really meant) then remain in the clutches of by gainey and gauthier and martin – 3 old men -old losers for many years now. btw – subban is getting worse every game now. just like dags got worse. ribeiro got worse. ryder got worse. grabovski got worse. obyrnne got worse. latendresse got worse. weber should be next to come here so the oolde brains can ruin him. halak is one very lucky man.
LOL listen just put on your dress and go out with your girls I know how afraid you are to stand up and be heard. Its ok the world is a beautiful place and every one is so honest and the flower grow all year round in your garden of love.
and yet people talk lindros
I just told you lay of the crack LOL my god man Kelly ran him over i seen the replay too.
The Defensive core is weak..in attitude.
It really irritates me to see Gionta being pushed around like he is absolutely nothing..*irritates me*
The Captain of the Legendary hockey team…Montreal Canadiens. *Captain*.!!!!
I wished PG would’ve signed Aaron Asham
a saying- “close but no cigar”————- a crossbar or a goalpost is a shot WIDE of the net. thats all. close but no cigar.
Let me see if I can speak your language: “HERP! DERP!”
You’re balling about how the owner sucks and everyone is against the habs as if it’s not more likely that a team playing it’s second game in two nights including travel are gonna make mistakes against a team that got a good night’s sleep in Montreal? And you think “I’ve got the dress on”? (Classy comment, btw)
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do not like their style. watched hockey for too long – let the other team control the puck for near all 2 minutes in your endzone and bad things happen. you saw what tampa bay did to them or ottawa tonight. me i prefer the way philly for one example attacks power plays with their pk.
And Gilmour who had a couple good years in Toronto and had a liking for underage babysitters from St. Louis!
I don’t care who wins as long as Toronto doesn’t!
why did you put coincidence in quotes if you decided to all cap it?
detail other options please
im talking to you now
It’s becoming more and more apparent that maybe, just maybe, Halak asked for the trade lol
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Don’t pollute the water.
not only that but kelley made absolutely no attempt to leave the crease as he hugged the crossbar only then lapierre hit him but ref of couse only penalizes the last one involved.
Pretty bad game. Don’t understand what is wrong with Cammy… Tough schedule this week. Actually it will be extremely tough.
i dont know good or evil grammar. my first language is slovakian. you know who my fav goalie is?
Amen……. he will come back down to earth sooner or later.
Absolutely. Hitting the posts are shots off the mark..Halak left little room.
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Don’t pollute the water.
halak got the habs TO the flyers series where the great leighto shut them out 3 times as he defeated the habs. youre right halak was unable to score a single goal or for that matter assist on a single goal scored against leighton.
Frustrating game. What is really noticeable these last couple games is the fact that Subban isn’t playing like he used to.. no more rushing the puck.. that’s his style and he’s not doing it anymore. Subban and Picard were solid as a pair… might be time to bring him back.
Guy, let it go. It’s all so tiring and redundant.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
This team has been frustrating to watch ever since Markov came back. Something is not right.
Never liked this tool of a coach and never will, even if he brings us the Cup. He’s stiff, useless & overrated.
How can any line form chemistry or any kind of consistency if you keep changing them? JM never had a system & in my humble opinion SUCKS.
They should decline penalties from now on.
Two angles:
http://imgur.com/a/YlwxT/subban_pushes_kelly_1
http://imgur.com/a/iLmf5/subban_pushes_kelly_2
PK clearly extends his arm, and its almost a cross-check into the numbers.
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It’s just a game.
i know
…subby seems off as well…
man i wish boucher was behind the bench.
here here
5 things habs need to do to IMPROVE: (in no particular order)
—-GOMEZ NEEDS TO SHOOT MORE.
—-MARTIN NEEDS TO LEAVE HIS LINES ALONE AND STOP MIXING AND MATCHING,ESPECIALLY WITH THE PLEX,AK,CAMMY TRIO
—-PK SUBBAN NEEDS TO BE UNLEASHED AND JM MUST GIVE HIM FREEDOM TO DO WHAT HE DOES BEST
—-MARKOV NEEDS TO WAKE UP AND STOP PLAYING LIKE ITS IN SLOW MOTION.
—-WE NEED TO WAKE UP ON THE PP.MAKE IT SIMPLE.USE YOUR LINEMATES AND DO BE SO INDIVIDUAL AND CUTE.FFRRRIGGG.
…Alrighty im done ranting….4 now.
I hope those at the summit did not dish out big money to see this beer league hockey. Habs are simply pathetic and it’s only November. It will on be going downhill from here.. you know, the more other teams “gel” and the more physical game becomes as the season wears on. All out glorified millionaires have no answer to any kind of pressure from the opposition. Martin has no clue about anything. Is his system standing around, not skating and not providing any puck support? Thank you once again, Bob Gainey for putting this group together. Looks like money well spent.
Occam’s razor says it could just be second game in a row, with travel, not to mention Subban has done the second most ToI in total, third most in average, and plays a very physical game. I also thought last game with Plex missing the message might have been to play a more conservative game (one reason I wasn’t happy seeing Cammy on the point, and was pretty nervous when two D were in the box for the 5 on 3), and then just out of gas tonight.
Let’s see how he does on Tuesday against Vancouver and Thursday against Boston rather than panicking. There are better things to panic about than Subban.
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It’s just a game.
another terrible STAND AROUND AND PRAY MARTIN PENALTY KILL – an absolute disgrace. police should arrest gauthier, martin, gainey for charging hundreds to people to watch this BORING fraud!
Get Pat Quinn and Larry Robinson behind the bench. JM’s system sucks!!!
Let’s not hang it up on a rookie. Those not delivering the good are Gomez, Gionta, Cammillari, AK and Plelks. All these highly (over)paid players have been absolutely useless last 3-4 games. The D gets not support – and when D does recover the puck there isn’t anybody to pass it too. Price was great again. Some D plays their hearts out, albeit poorly, and the pluggers plug away, but the top guys do jacksh!t.
gauthiers ottawa coach before the 2 losers were fired!
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I will agree with you second sentence and the second part of the first. Pat Quinn? Really?
So I take my Habs heart out and watch the game pretending I don’t care who wins, I’m thinking this is pretty decent hockey tonight by these two teams. A lot of open ice, passes on the stick, good pace. If you weren’t cheering for either team and love hockey, not a bad game at all.
Now as I person with a Habs heart, I’ve got a lot of concerns about the team. Markov isn’t looking good right now but he’ll come around. Hammer and Spacek are good soldiers and played ok but these guys aren’t built for these back to backs at this pace. Our forwards are too small, big revelation. Our coach is good at helping a mediocre team play defensive hockey but doesn’t have a clue otherwise. Mike Babcock was on the radio the other day and asked what advice he would give a coach:
‘make every guy feel important’
‘make sure that every guy likes hockey more at the end of the year than he did before the year started’
It’s definitely not time to be panicking about Subban. It’s just that when he has the puck, rushes it and does his thing, good things happen. I watched him play last year in Hamilton, and I know it’s the AHL and he shouldn’t be taking as many chances in the big leagues.. but he has talent. I just hope he’s not being restrained because he’s a game-changer.
this team has a LOSING RECORD FOR THE LAST 2 YEARS NOW because of this. enuff is enuff and it aint going to improve until the heads of the snake are cut off.
Ok Robinson it is …. But hurry up.
Sadly the whole Ottawa gang is here to say for the next few years. The only person who can fire their behinds is Molson but why? Seats are filled, hot dogs are sold, beer is flowing, even Gomez jerseys probably still sell. Business is good.
ANOTHER PENALTY RFAILURE! ggod coaching jacques! amazing how many good goalies are in the nhl – at least when they play against habs 90% of the time thet look great even unheard of ones.
This is by far the hardest game to watch this season. It’s like they forgot how to play hockey. How do you score a goal again?
Oh, and Darche, Pouliot and Halpern. Those 3 know how to score goals the hard way. Props to that line as they, along with Price, Pleky and AK are a big part of the reason the Habs are still division leaders. Still, it’s like they forgot how to score goals. I really hope this drought ends soon.
Getting tired of watching these boring ass games. Somebody kill me please……I’m on my Knees!!! Pretty pretty please!! KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILL MEE!!!! I WANT TOOOO DIIIIIIIIIIIIE! PUT A BULLET IN MY HEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!
Robinson eh? How’s them New Jersey Devil’s doing by the way???
Goalies in Montreal have two roles, netminder and scapegoat.
Well, his mom bought one.
To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”
same ol’ problems. 1- can’t clear the zone – this is a very very poorly coached team. gomez, gionta and cammalleri are cold as ice. POWER PLAY- totally useless have a 5 on 3 advantage lose faceoff almost allow a break away them waste that 2 man advantage. power play was a zillion times better with schneider 2 years back or MAB last year. subban is deteriorating like all young habs players with talent as soon as t5he old losers gauthier, gainey and martin get their hands on them. disgusting!
instead of critiquing them on completed games, you should do it by period
100% agreed … And he’d better take Gainey’s adopted son with him. It’s time we get a good coach instead of just a French-Canadian one.
Halak will win the Vezina this year, mark my words. And I also hope he gets another shutout against us just to rub it in Gainey’s face.
I really wonder what’s the point for the Molsons to buy the team and then not interfere with the poor management of the franchise?
theres been a few already including habs wins that they tried their hardest to lose. this team needs new management – last y7ears playoffs an aberration.
i was talking about the first period tonight. which is as yogi said “deja vu all over again”.
You hope. Halak is the real deal, an elite goalie. Some of us got that last year We had For Sure but opted for Maybe.
When he pulled the goalie Martin sat AK and opted for Pouliot, a guy he thinks isn’t good enough to play with G&G (except on the PP).
If he brings us The Cup, he’s not a stiff. There’s no chance he brings us The Cup. He’s a stiff. There is only one reason we made it as far as we did last year. And then we got rid of that guy without even shopping him around.
So you are NOT a HAbs fan…..Thanks for coming out of the closet…
do i know u?
oh really? i didnt know, i honestly thought you were talking about the whole game, which isnt over yet and suggested you do it by period
my bad
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Can you in all honestly say the Habs would have a better record with Halak and not Price?? ….and don’t me the mystical powers of Halak makes every team member a better player. And please suggest who (specifically) we should have received in return?? Don’t just say a Top 6 forward b/c I don’t recall any being offered.
Reallly??? Because Halak would have scored more than 20? Please remind us what are our weakness this young season is so far???
From what I’ve seen so far, is spotty D and less than 2 lines clicking in any given game.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
so you agree we dont have a problem in goal?
The problem is Halak will make the 1 or 2 more saves in each and every game. That translates to MANY more wins. A one goal deficit in a playoff game is INVALUABLE.
“We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
okay well now you are debating by making fortune telling an absolute
which isnt honest
Halak is a fine goalie who plays for St Louis. There is a blog page (probably several) http://www.stlouisgametime.com/fanposts you might be interested in following or contributing to. I like the Blues as well. They score on average almost half a goal more a game than Montreal. I wish Halak and his agent hadn’t wanted out so bad but you can see what the half goal a game does to improve the stats. Smart move on their parts.
We’ll see what the numbers tell us by the end of the season.
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Don’t pollute the water.
sure
all of them
not selectively as most have done thus far
Gotta love when the same people call everyone else delusional for saying Price is only going to get better, saying they’re trying to “predict the future” and spouting such nonsense as “go to vegas if you’re so good at predicting things”, come out and say another player would have made this save, or scored this goal. BULL***. You can’t prove anything, it’s all some delusional dreamworld, the reality is that our goalie has been excellent through nearly every moment of the first bit of the season, and we still have the same people bitching.
I didn’t call anyone delusional for their opinions on Price nor made those claims.
Don’t you have Halak in your pool and not Price?
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Don’t pollute the water.
I have Halak in 1/4 pools and Price in 1/4 pools. Both are killing it for me, Halak moreso.
worlds best goalie, that is hilarioussssss
Funny how you never mentioned having Price in your pool on that Boone item. This is the internet and you can say anything.
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Don’t pollute the water.
That’s because when the interview was conducted I’d only done 1 draft, but ok. Want me to list the entire team of the pool I have Price on?
Jeff Carter, Tomas Plekanec, Steven Stamkos, Ilya Kovalchuk, Patrick Marleau, Teemu Selanne, Ryan Smyth, Tomas Vanek, David Krejci, Dustin Penner, Saku Koivu, John Carlson, Drew Doughty, Andrei Markov, Michael Del Zotto, Keith Yandle, Victor Hedman, Carey Price, Tomas Vokoun, Semyon Varlamov.
It’s a CBS sportsline league called Out to Win, 10 teams, head to head.
Happy?
Funnier still that a Leaf fan gets his profile banned under the name demi-god and comes back with an anonymous profile and does nothing but spew Jaroslav Halak praises like he’s doing a hall of fame induction speech for him.
I don’t want Halak to fail, I want Price to succeed because I am a Habs fan, unlike you, by your own admission. Why can’t you just enjoy your favourite player’s and team’s success? All you are trying to do is force your opinion on others. If you want companionship in all your ideas, you’ll find it on the Blues blog but not here. The ppl at HIO are going to be the first to b*tch if Price isn’t doing a stellar job. Don’t you think?
Conclusive proof..
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Don’t pollute the water.
Says the conspiracy theorist.
I’m not forcing, only giving opinions like everyone else. You’re telling me where to post?? Who are you?
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That’s demigod to you..
Games on. Shoo.
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Don’t pollute the water.
I got no candy for you. Nooo candy.
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You are a waste of blood Sergio.
I didn’t tell you where to post. Read my comment again.Instead of answering something directly you chose to be rude. And I’m nobody to you.
You’re telling ME? lol I don’t care if Eller scores 20 this year and the next, it’s still a horrible trade value.
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Don’t pollute the water.
The Nightmare in Green Bay…… I love it bye bye Cowboys.
I love your boobies.
Appologies. But you can’t expect us all not to watch the Blues with more interest than ever before – by thousands of miles – due to Halakasaurus. If they win the Cup you will never hear the end of the 2010/11 Blues and The Trade.
Has this become a parallax Blues site? Can we please talk about the Habs? The current Habs? Don’t give a shite about the West.
OMG ANOTHER SHUTOUT BY HALAK!!!
(for those who are going to point out that Conklin played tonight, go fu*k yourself)
definitely POST OF Du JOUR!
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Why is your avatar so disturbing?
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wow these lines actually look pretty good. i like every single one of them
My turn:
Poolio-Plecky-Gio
K Senior-Gomie-Cammy
Moen-Halpie-Darchie
Lappy-Eller-Pyatt
Marky-SpaceCadet
Soobie-The Hamr
Gill-Gorges
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difference is though, samsonov was only making what, 3 million or so? that’s chump change compared to what gomez is making, he sure he needs to start producing somehow, there are much better uses for that dough
can anyone explain to me why we havent sat out the 8 million dollar bumm gomez yet? hes our new samsonov. we thought kovey was a floater when he was here, gomer gomez is bringing bumm floater to a whole new level. theyre trying to hard, keep it simple, shoot the puck, fight for the puck, jam in the garbage goals, screen the other teams goalie.
There are many more of us out here.
Damn right Matty! Glad I’m not the only one who sees Gill’s value.
- Honestly yours
Read elsewhere on HIO that Laps should move to Gomez’s line. Poster may have be joshing but I think it’s a great idea.
Laps is a shooter and he can provide defensive help and also while not a prototypical muscle player will do dirty work in corner. I think he should be put on G&G line for least five games.
But most of all leave Pouliot and Eller etc where they are and leave the Cammillieri/AK46/Plek line together.
Stop trying to fit the whole damn team to Gomez and Gionta. The other players are gaining confidence and chemistry … leave them alone or else we will screw them up.
If Martin puts Pouliot back on G&G line (takes him off the PHD LINE… BOONE’S BRILLIANCE) then I will take next friday off and go carry a placard in front of Bell Centre calling JM an IDIOT!
We tried this crap with Koivu and Kovalev etc and messed up every other forward on those teams.
Gomez should be given a kick in the ASS period… he needs one. And GIONTA better decide to stand up RIGHT NOW and be the type of captain that Henri Richard was, friend or no friend. I have not previously voiced my concerns re his captaincy. But ever since he played the ‘good company man’ and said “NEVER HAPPENED!” to the Price/Markov incident I have been concerned re Gionta losing himself by trying to be the captain that Gauthier and Martin want. It was not him and subconsciously must have demoralised his spirit. It would have been more proper and more fortifying of the integrity of his ongoing captaincy in the room if he had said something like ” I wont answer that question because hockey matters that happen between players are private and as captain I wont allow for players to be divulging room dynamics to you folks in the press”. His “NEVER HAPPENED” answer looked so bad and unworthy of a captain and also damaged him.
For his sake and for the team’s sake I hope he resets his perspective as a captain to more suit his admirable character and integrity rather than appease the ‘batten down the hatches secretive’ mantra of Gauthier and Martin.
GO HABS GO! WIN despite JM’s which is what the team has done already on a few occasions this season.
Shooter? Defensive? Wow, you do have better hockey sense than one of the best coaches in the league! Lapierre should also be our goalie!
Lappy isn’t a “shooter”. Just because he “shoots” doesn’t make him a sniper. Everyone shoots. Ryan O’Byrne shoots. Doesn’t make him a shooter.
Agree with you on Gomie and Gio. They ain’t kids no more. Veterans. Playin together since they were 15. They know what’s what. Let’em figure it out by their own dang selves. HOWEVER…with PROPER indications to Poolio, sorta like ”Play YOUR game, kid, and SCREW tryin to please Gomie and Gio. YOU’RE the boss of the 2nd line. These other two guys are playin for YOU tonight.”, I think there are possibilities for greater success than “perfecting his defensive game.”
That being said, the kid’s producing with his actual line while the vets are struggling and we’re still winning, so it can stay as is for the moment. Sooner or later though, he has to go back. For two reasons: A) he’s the most talented/pedigreed and the most dangerous of the selection to PLAY on the 2nd line, and B) we lose face in the Tendre Guidoune deal if he isn’t on it. Can’t lose face. Rule 1: Can’t lose face.
You can’t “kick Gomie in the butt” TOO hard or he’ll squawk. And THEN, that 7mil is REALLY compromised. It’s either make do and encourage/inspire/work with him to achieve success or take a…radical decision which may affect the rest of the team’s mojo.
Gio is snakebit, not overwhelmed. Gomie’s iffy play so far ain’t helping. Think it’s a matter’o'time afore the da bursts. I don’t think Gio is pulling a Luongo.
But I’ve been wrong before.
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From time to time.
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looks like a good time so far!
jealous i can’t be there, but MAYBE next year!
hope everyone’s having a blast
I kinda lean to your way of thinking too. Too many skilled players seem to languish in our system for it to be all the players’ fault.
Check PK Subbans trajectory even this early and you are seeing a more constrained and certainly less enthusiastic and exciting player within the last few weeks. This all started in the game against Ottawa which we came back and won after they went up 3-1. Notice in the first period how JM basically had PK glued to the bench.
Then went Ottawa scored their third goal JM almost turned ghostlike and let the reins go, including PK’s.
Even look at last night’s games how little he used Subban at start of game. Georges and Markov and Spacek were overused. Pk’s fake spin and then turn brought our first power play and JM did not give him a whiff of PP time then. And that was an atrocious PP.
Last year when Eller came up for the Blues he was lighting it up for Peoria and got called up, confidence booming. A bit different when you start the year up here. Also Payne seems to be doing a bang up job in St. Louis.
Lars Eller scored 2 goals in 7 games and was +2 with the Blues last year. Coaching is suspect with the Habs, and Mtl seems to be a toxic environment..especially with young talent. Idk, but something is f–ky..
”We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin
Don’t pollute the water.
Ridiculous.
“Suspect coaching” got us further than we’ve been in 17 years. Onward suspect coaching, I say.
Yeah, very toxic environment for young talent. Look at Soobie for example, all full of toxicity this guy.
Actual TALENT has nothing to do with it; only toxic environments, yes.
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Lars Eller is a kid who may or may not pan out for any team and nothing against him “good kid”this was the worst trade ever for the Habs … giving away the worlds best goalie.THE PLAYERS WE COULD OF GOT AND THE TRADE PACKAGES THAT SHOULD OF BE MADE ARE TOO MANY ,it’s mindboggling ! Just look at our team and think ,geese where could we make improvements?
Why did the team score 3+ goals a game in the first 2 series? What happened against Philly, yes we were only halfway to the cup when we faced Philly? Halak got crushed just like Price did 2 years before that. Halak was only half our team. When the team doesn’t score, Halak doesn’t win.