Habs’ Gallagher sidelined with concussion

Coming off a 4-1 win over the Philadelphia Flyers on Saturday at the Bell Centre, the Canadiens practised at noon Sunday in Brossard as they prepare for a busy week with four games in six days.

The Canadiens play the Carolina Hurricanes Monday at the Bell Centre (7:30 p.m., TSN-HABS, RDS, TSN 690 Radio) before travelling to New York to face the Rangers Tuesday night. The New York Islanders visit the Bell Centre Thursday night, followed by the Rangers on Saturday.

Coach Michel Therrien said Brendan Gallagher suffered a concussion when he was hit by Philadelphia defenceman Luke Schenn in the third period Saturday. The Canadiens will follow   the league-mandated concussion protocol. Therrien said Gallagher felt fine on Sunday morning, but he will not play Monday night. It is the second concussion for Gallagher, who suffered one in junior hockey.

Max Pacioretty, who left Saturday’s game after he was cut by Kimmo Timonen’s skate and bruised a rib, practised Sunday and will play Monday. Ditto for Colby Armstrong, who was hit in the face with a puck Saturday.

Carey Price, who missed Saturday’s game with the flu, didn’t practise, but he’s feeling better. He’ll be the backup Monday as Peter Budaj gets another start after stopping 18 of 19 shots against the Flyers. Therrien said he wanted Price to get in a couple of practices before returning to action.

P.K. Subban was sent home after he showed up with a sore throat Sunday, but it’s possible he will play Monday. Ryan White, who has been in Therrien’s doghouse for taking undisciplined penalties and was a healthy scratch the last four games, will take Gallagher’s place in the lineup.

The Canadiens’ practice was short – 45 minutes – and featured a light-hearted game of something called hockey-baseball. Pacioretty said he had never played the game, but Andrei Markov told him it was popular in Russia. Go figure.  

In other news, Carolina Hurricanes coach Kirk Muller announced that Jeff Skinner, the team’s second-leading scorer, will not play Monday at the Bell Centre. He’s out with an upper-body injury. He hit his head against the boards after a collision with Toronto’s Mark Fraser Friday night.

Robert Mayer, who served as Budaj’s backup Saturday, was returned to the AHL’s Hamilton Bulldogs. Michael Bournival had a hat-trick for the Bulldogs in a 4-2 win over the Houston Aeros Saturday night in Hamilton. It was the fourth straight victory for the Bulldogs, with goaltender Dustin Tokarski – acquired in a trade last week with Tampa Bay – picking up the victory in his Hamilton debut.

(Photo by Pierre Obendrauf/The Gazette)

Gallagher sidelined with concussion, by Pat Hickey

Habs medical staff busy, by Pat Hickey

Budaj up to the task, by Dave Stubbs

An unexpected start to season for Habs, by Jack Todd

Gazette photo gallery from Habs practice Sunday

‘Canes Skinner injured, will miss Montreal game, by Raleigh News & Observer


  1. Adidess says:

    Guys, on IPhone at lunch break from work (can’t do direct replies). Just want to say I love the fighting rules/proposals that have been put forward.

    I actually laughed out loud reading them which prompted a couple of colleagues to react. HFS72, Mattyleg, Tharsis, I was going to say you have creative minds, but on second thought, you’re just insane 🙂

  2. HabFab says:

    HW’s grading of the 1st quarter for the forwards;

  3. HabinBurlington says:

    Non Habs question. Any IPad users here know if there is a way to shortcut scrolling all the way down to bottom of a thread? I know how to shortcut to the top, but not to bottom. Thanks!

  4. commandant says:

    The February draft rankings, post juniors and 5 nations, and in time for the stretch run of the season and playoffs.

    Part 1 today (1-10)


    Go Habs Go!
    Check out Top Shelf Prospects, my Team by Team prospect reports

    • HabFab says:

      Good work and look forward to the rest, since we are going to have to focus on the 21-30 group now 🙂

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Thanks Ben. Man I’d love to get a shot at one of those top 5’s. Holy crap.


    • scuba says:

      Thanks for these Ben, love the draft previews. I think we might see Drouin climb all the way to the top. I have never seen a player improve as much and as fast as he has this year. The last month he has dominated almost every game with highlight real plays. Also I think he is bigger than you think. Their skating styles make he and Mackinnon look different but the few times that have possed for pictures they are very similar heights and sizes.

      I can’t tell if the Habs are great or terrible because sometimes they win and sometimes they lose.

  5. SteverenO says:

    Special Teams:

    It s nice to see that the coaching staff finally did their homework, (or read this site?) and removed Bouillion from the Penalty Kill unit while promoting to Diaz to the first PK unit.

    The next move, and this one is also an obvious one, is to install Subban on the Penalty Kill. He is a far more effective Penalty Killer than Emelin and also somewhat better at killing penalties than Markov.

    Regarding the PowerPlay, there has been much debate here between pairings on defence; especially between Diaz/Markov versus Subban /Markov. Interesting that I have never seen anyone suggest a pairing of Diaz and Subban on the first wave, (if for no other reason than to reduce Markov minutes)

    The fact is that we require two PP pairings on the point. There is no question about the first three; Markov, Subban and Diaz (whatever the order), the question that needs to be answered is who should be the 4th man in the rotation?
    In my opinion neither Georges, Bouillion or Emelin should be number 4. Therfore it needs to be a forward .
    I would recommend alternating Eller and Galchenyuk on the point of the second wave of our PP unit, until one or the other either clearly shows he is more effective ,or until both of them prove to be ineffective..

    Finally I find it curious that The coaching staff utilize MArkov as the number one defensive pairing on even strength and PP and the number two on the Penalty Kill despite some obvious signs of his getting tired. On the other hand Subban, who can probably handle 30 minutes a game without getting tired, is used on the number three defensive paring even strength, the number two PP and rarely, if at all, on the penalty kill where he excels.

    Anyone else thought about this?


    Steve O.

    • Loonie says:

      I’d use Pacioretty on the right side of the second unit.

      He has a great shot, distributes well from the right side and wins battles for the puck along the boards routinely.

      In addition, in the event the puck gets by he has the speed to catch up and make a play defensively.

      Edit: Lost in all of the replies below is that the second unit of the powerplay doesn’t necessarily finish the powerplay. In most games Therrien’s put the third or fourth line on the ice with a dozen to thirty seconds left in the powerplay so that a tired unit isn’t on the ice at the conclusion of the powerplay.

    • commandant says:

      Forwards are rarely put on the point of the second wave of a PP, more likely the first wave.

      No coach wants to get caught with a man coming out of the box, and 5 on 5 with a forward playing defence.

      This is especially true in the 2nd period with the long line change.

      Go Habs Go!
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    • VancouverHab says:

      I do. Therrien coaches from a ‘book’ that has non-hockey priorities. (Like Georges Laraque.) That’s why this will all end very badly.

      You heard it here first…..

      • HabinBurlington says:

        You need to contact MB and let him know about this book. Clearly he is not privy to such information. If you can’t get a hold of him, contact John Bellyfull he has the direct line.

    • HabFab says:

      1. PK and Diaz have never jellied playing the point together going back to last season.
      2. Putting a forward with PK on the point, especially a kid like Chucky, is risky. Pleks is probably the closest but all past attempts to put him on the point have not worked out well either.

      • SteverenO says:


        1. Last year the PP was awful no matter who played on it. Not sure if there was any evidence of PK and Diaz “not gelling”
        2. Why are you assuming the forward will be paired with PK? and why do you assume that if he was it would be any more risky than pairing him with Markov? Why is Pleks “the closest”? He is good on the PP as a centerman, I never saw him do anything good as a point man. Is it because JM played him on the point (to make room for Gomez up front) that you think that Plekanec is the “closest” thing?

        Your point may be valid (about the long change during the power play)
        but I don`t believe that the chief concern while on the power play should be defending at the final moment prior to it ending. I would hope that we are doing everything we can to have the power play end before the time expires in which case there would be a faceoff (after we score) at center ice.

        If the coach is deciding who to put on the PP based on preventing the other team from scoring, this whole conversation is a waste of time.


        Steve O.

    • Cal says:

      Markov is Habs best Dman at PP. Pairing Subban with Diaz for first wave PP makes no sense as you take the best Dman away from his strength.
      PK will be around 20 minutes. Therrien noticed last year (and so did we) that often PK had nothing left when he played over 20 minutes last season. PK cannot handle 30 minutes. It’s too much.


      • SteverenO says:

        Hi Cal,

        I don;t know what”we” noticed or even who the “we” refers to ,but I noticed that PK was MUCH more effective at killing penalties than Emelin, Georges, and even Hal Gill, was last year . The only D-man who was better than Subban on the Penalty Kill last year was Diaz,

        I wonder how you know what Therrien noticed? How is it that Therrien was able to notice that PK “had nothing left” when he played over 20 minutes, and NOT manage to notice how good he was on the penalty kill?

        Subban 12 short handed goals against in 211 pk minutes.
        Emelin 10 short handed goals agianst in 87 pk minutes
        Georges;23 short handed goals against in 327 pk minutes.

        Hal Gill combination of Montreal and Nashville played 263 minutes of short handed ice time and 19 goals were allowed while he was on the ice.An average of one goal allowed every 14 minutes. Subban averaged one goal allowed every 17 minutes. Did “WE” and/or Therrien notice that?

        “Me” thinks “we” and Therrien are either not very good at noticing or perhaps watching the wrong team.

        Please Cal, if you use “we” in the future have the courtesy to explain exactly who “we” are.


        Steve O.

    • Phil C says:

      I have never been a fan of a forward on the powerplay unless they have a lot of experience doing so. Playing offensively from the point is different from up front, even on the powerplay. Without experience, the quality of the decision-making suffers. As well, the risk of short-handed goals increases significantly.

      I also believe PK is highly over-rated as a PP QB. He has a great shot, so he will produce back there, but his passing/decision-making and movement with the puck are not good enough yet. For me, PK is perfect for the second wave because they can keep it simple; just get it to PK for the shot, then scramble for the rebounds.

      As well, Diaz and Markov were producing at an incredible rate in the first 6 games with 6 and 8 PP points respectively. I see no good reason to separate them until they stop producing.

      • SteverenO says:

        Some good points, Phil. I would think that PK should NOT be the QB on the PP, I was hoping the either Eller or Galchenyuk may be be good as the 2nd wave QB.

        Your comment about having a lot of experience is invalid; How will they gain the experience of they never get the chance to do so? Experience is always helpful but it only can only be had if given the opportunity.

        My assumption, correct me if I am wrong, is that a professional hockey player, who “sees the ice well” and has good passing skills should be able to learn how to QB a power play. That is why they have practices and coaches. Its nice to play baseball/hockey and have fun sometimes, but I would hope that the majority of practice time is spent working on important aspects of the game, such as the power play.


        Steve O.

        • Phil C says:

          I was not clear in my post. By experience, I don’t just mean NHL experience or in practice, I mean the years of experience having played a certain position like defense. With experience comes better decision-making. Malcolm Galdwell’s book “Blink” is an interesting read on how we make decisions.

          When there isn’t much time to make a decision, the human brain relies heavily on intuition and instinct. We essentially know in an instant what to do based on previous experience. I have observed that forwards playing D are often faced with decisions that they are not familiar with, so they either hesitate or make a bad choice. For example, the puck is coming around the boards to the point with a defender in pursuit during a PP. Do you try to beat him there or back up to defend? If you beat him there, do you chip it back in or try to go D to D, risking giving up a break away pass? These decisions have to be made in a split-second with every situation being slightly different. I think forwards generally suck at all these little decisions because they have never played the position.

          Even with the puck on their stick in the O-zone, when their offensive skill should shine, they are seeing the ice from a different perspective, so the vision may not be as good as expected.

          But your suggestion is valid, many teams use a forward on the point with mixed results, so despite my prejudices, I recognize that there can be situations where it can work.

  6. HabinBurlington says:

    Boone is going to be flying high ( no not that kind of high ) his Liverpool Reds crushed Swansea 5- nil.

    Okay maybe that kind of high as well!

  7. HabFab says:

    From the Hockey Writers, he must be a Hab fan but it finishes good;

  8. HabinBurlington says:

    I look forward to seeing Eller play with DD. dd is very good at puck distribution, not sure Eller has had a linemate like this before. Could prove fruitful.

    • Loonie says:

      Last time they played together Eller put two goals on Desharnais’ stick and he buried them.

      V. Buffalo

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Two players with great skills, should work. Also if Dd gets thrown out of circle we got Eller there.

      • The Jackal says:

        DD’s success can be directly attributed to Eller, which is why DD scored on the SO in Tampa, and why he scored against Philly.

        • Loonie says:

          In the game that they played together, it can be, because it was a product of Eller feeding Desharnais for two great scoring chances. Scoring chances Desharnais converted on.

          • The Jackal says:

            You can say that about any player who feeds DD or any other player who converts.
            We all know Eller is good and that he deserves a chance, but let’s not undermine DD’s success over something we have no control of.

          • Loonie says:

            How am I undermining his success by saying that the last time they played together Eller put goals on Desharnais stick and that he converted them?

            The answer is I’m not. You’ve got your back up yet again regarding our little mighty mouse.

          • The Jackal says:

            Look, I like both Eller and DD, and I hope they both succeed and light it up. But you sound as if you’re implying that DD is successful because of who he plays with, whereas Eller makes those he plays with successful, which ultimately suggests that Eller is better than DD, when their performance doesn’t point to any of them performing as you suggest. And this argument comes up here every day, and it’s just unfounded. They are both good players that make and bury chances.

    • Gerry H says:

      DD/Eller together tonight? With whom?

  9. shiram says:

    Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS
    Max Pacioretty will play tonight.

    Marc Antoine Godin ‏@MAGodin
    P.K. Subban va jouer. Will play tonight

    Gally is feeling well but following the concussion procedure.

  10. Gerry H says:

    Strange. Along with four other teams, Boston has played the fewest games in the league so far, with thirteen. They only play once this week. They’ll have to pay for that in the second half of the schedule.

  11. frontenac1 says:

    Hola Amigos!Presidents Day and a full schedule of games starting at 1:00pm.
    Family Day? More like bring your Brat to the Saloon Day.

  12. Loonie says:

    Can anyone tell me what happened to Bugs?

    Please hold the Elmer jokes.

  13. Thomas Le Fan says:

    If Schenn didn’t target the head then no one ever has. I vote for suspension.

  14. deane paul says:

    what is a “trolling account”
    not my spelling that is bad, its my typing and checking before i hit “send” but thanks for the tip.

    white can play the game. watched him lead in hamilton playing for the bulldogs. his first game in montreal boychuck took a run at subban and missed. white immediately dropped the gloves and won the fight with boychuck. habs were lacking that, white adds it. period. the benching was outta line. white has hands and can contribute. very good on pk. better hockey player than moen. hope he plays smart and sticks. but he will be hesitant now to stick up for a team mate knowing the press box may be waiting for him if he does. want to look at dumb penalties. plekanec in box for snowing goalie while t.o score winner in game 1. plekanic takes a tripping penalty minute to go against tampa. plekanic trips guiy in ot against panthers. (got away with that one) tomas is playing great but stupid, and late penalties are taking by so many players in todays league. refs call everything…and if you are leading late in the third you can bet money you are getting the last penalty. never fails. white penalty was with a two goal lead, 12 mintes left in the game, sticking up for a team mate, how was he to know that ott would turtle get nothing. benched for that?? bah


    • shiram says:

      Punctuation, paragraphs and all the likes will help out alot, because right now it’s annoying to read a wall of text as you posted.
      I say this knowing full well my english is not top notch, but I try to be readable most of the time.
      I’ll disagree on White being better than Moen, although Moen has looked uninterested for most of this season.
      Plekanec has 8 minutes of penalties playing a more difficult game than White does, and White has 46 minutes of penalties, double the minors Pleks has.
      White has a discipline issue, it’s a fact, let’s hope the coach handled it well and White learns from his past experience.

    • Cal says:

      White’s problem in one sentence: “hope he plays smart and sticks.”
      We have to “hope” White plays smart. We’re never sure what he’ll bring to the game.
      When your team is leading in the 3rd period, you take the number down for another game. Revenge should be immediate, but that has to be tempered with enough sense to win the game.

    • Propwash says:

      I love that White can chuck fists, but there is a time and a place to do it. And that time and place is not when the game hangs in the balance.


  15. Gerry H says:

    With a little more than a quarter of the season gone, I have to say that my confidence in the coach is way up. MT has done an admirable job of balancing and tweaking the lines, being neither too patient with under-performing combos, nor too fiddly. The team concept has been visibly effective. As an aside, I love what Carey’s new mask says about that: all Habs imagery, no personalization.

    The discipline issue is an interesting one. Would the Habs be leading the league in PIMs without White’s brain farts? Is his long sojourn in the press box going to be part of an adjustment that puts the team on track to more disciplined play?

    I’ll be very interested to see what happens with the PP this week. It clearly has suffered since the return of PK. Again, MT gave him a decent amount of time on the first unit, but seems to have pulled the plug and returned to the more successful Markov/Diaz combo (yes, they were 0-fer last game, but the puck movement was back on track). If that pans out and the PK continues to improve, the Habs will have the kind of special teams performance that is consistent with a strong, contending season.

    One final point. There’s been a lot of talk about the performance of DD and Cole and the merits of giving Eller a better chance to contribute offensively. I think it is striking that Pacioretty has escaped much of the criticism that his two line mates have received. He is supposed to be a power forward with finish, but he has yet to find the back of the net. DD’s numbers are off not due to a lack of goals (he’s matched last year’s totals to-date), but due to a lack of assists. Max’s shot totals are not far off last year’s. If his shooting percentage was significantly above zero, DD would almost certainly be matching his point totals from last year (and that’s not even taking into consideration Cole’s even slower than normal start). My biggest bitch about DD in particular and that line in general is their poor defensive play. Maybe Eller deserves a chance to join DD and Cole (on the wing, given Larry’s face-off weakness) and Max ought to work with the kids?

    • Loonie says:

      Max deservedly escapes criticism because he returned early from an appendectomy(six days).

      An injury that normally keeps players out of the lineup for a full month. Expectations with him should be tempered.

      • Gerry H says:

        Fair enough, Tom. But my point was less that Max has let the side down than that his underperformance has at least as much to do with the line’s lack of production as any shortcoming on DD’s part. Other than the first 2-3 games, I think DD has looked every bit the player he was last year (including the defensive weakness).

        • Loonie says:

          Funny you say that cuz I thought Desharnais was very good defensively in the first half dozen games but wasn’t really doing much positive offensively until the Florida trip.

          Two of his four goals have been absolute gifts from the high slot and he was actually late getting into the offensive zone on both and really wasn’t moving his feet on either.

          Very bad coverage on those markers.

          • Bill says:

            Bad coverage, or he knows how to get open?

            Full Breezer 4 Life

          • Loonie says:

            Coasting down the middle of the ice with nobody near you is bad coverage in my opinion.

            But I’m a glass half empty kinda guy.

          • Gerry H says:

            Actually, the numbers support the notion that his defensive play was better in the first few games. My point was more about his effectiveness in the O-zone since that 5-1 drubbing from Ottawa. His production has gone up, but his +/- has indeed tanked to a team-worst -5.

            Perhaps that confirms the knock on DD, that his lack of speed/size prevents him from being effective in both zones simultaneously. I still think Lars Eller could help compensate, though perhaps displacing Cole rather than MaxPac.

          • frontenac1 says:

            My glass is always half empty.Thats why I order doubles.

          • Loonie says:

            I hear what you’re saying Gerry but Eller’s been among the team’s best players over the last 8-10 games and I wouldn’t be moving him to the wing anytime soon. I would only give serious consideration to him getting Galchenyuk or Desharnais’ spot.

          • boing007 says:

            If the center is slower than his wingers what’s the point?

            Richard R
            Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

      • Mustang says:

        While it was absolutely amazing how Max came back so soon, I am beginning to wonder if it would not have been better for him to have waited a few more days.

    • munch17 says:

      Pacs has 8 points and is even on the year.
      Pleks and Bourque are the only forwards with more points than he has.
      Goals will come – I have not seen too many chances that DD has prepared for him – in fact he gave DD a goal on a silver platter last game – maybe DD should return the favour.

  16. OMG says:

    White and Prust is listed to start with Galchenyuk tonight, 3rd line.

  17. Habfan10912 says:

    PK will play so Kabrele sits again.


  18. Habfan10912 says:

    The price for OReilly?



    • commandant says:

      “two players, a prospect and a high draft pick”

      Sounds like the Avs think they have a 6million dollar player and they are trading him away.

      Only problem is that they don’t want to pay him the 5 million he’s asking for.

      Something is off here.

      Go Habs Go!
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      • Habfan10912 says:

        I was shocked to read what they think his market value is. I admit I don’t follow Western Conference teams very closely but have I underestimated OReilly, Ben?


        • commandant says:

          It depends.

          Do you see his 2011-12 season as the start of something more? Do you see him going from 60 pts and growing into the 80 point two way centre? If so the asking price is right.

          Do you see his 60 point season as what he’ll do the rest of his career? The asking price is a tad high.

          Do you see it as an aberration, a good season on a bad team, not repeatable? Then the asking price is way too high.

          The problem here is we have one good season (at the age of 21 mind you) to judge against.

          I think its probably #2, but I’d want to see at least another season of him playing before I conclude what exactly O’Reilly is and thats the problem the Avs face in trying to pay him/trade him.

          Go Habs Go!
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          • HabFanSince72 says:

            The hotstove panel (with one exception) thought he would be taken number 2 if the 2009 draft were redone today – behind Tavares but ahead of Hedman, Duchenne, and Evander Kane.

            The one exception was PJ Stock, which only further supports the argument.

            Duchenne is a good comparison. He signed a 2-year contract for $3.5M. Same team. Same age. Same position. By any measure he has had more success than O’Reilly so far.

          • commandant says:

            I don’t agree with the Hot Stove. Higher than Hedman? I’d say no.

            I’d probably have Ekman-Larsson, Kulikov, Duchene, and EKane ahead too. So likely a top 10 pick (and much higher than the 33 he was taken, but 2nd seems high).

            Go Habs Go!
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      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Stan Kroenke Avs owner is not interested in building a contender. They have one of the lowest payrolls in the league.

        So they think that $6M/yr is his true value – they just don’t want a player of that value.

      • Cal says:

        The Avs are making sure there are no takers while they tank away the year, ensuring a high draft pick. Keeping O’Reilly out saves them bucks, too. Devious, eh?

      • boing007 says:

        Send him down to the farm club to pout.

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  19. Ian Cobb says:

    To Mr. Gallagher! This was written a few years ago by me!

    What is a concussion?, as comprehended and explained by myself.
    I have been involved as a lay person with research pertaining to neurology at a major medical university. I have picked up a lot of information working first with veterinarian pathologists when I was doing research on my fox and mink ranch with calcium. And I have been involved lately with the neurology research dept. from a major medical university. Only as the handler of the research birds involved in the study and offering some of my former findings from my own animal autopsy’s So I do not profess to be an expert on the subject pertaining to concussion, but I will try to explain, the best that I can, what happens to the brain cells that have been concussed inside the skull. And why one must stay completely resting after a concussion.

    The very soft brain cells, when violently thrown against the skull, are damaged and the neuron releases a potassium chemical out of the brain cell. Leaving a void. Calcium that is already present around the outside of the cells, seeps into the cells replacing the potassium.
    This calcium is what gives the chemical imbalance to the brain and is what causes the damage. Until all of this calcium leaves the brain cells completely, and it can take a long time, depending on how much calcium was taken on each cell.
    The patient is left extremely vulnerable to instant death upon a second bump, or at least permanent brain damage as some of the calcium solidifies upon second impact.
    Even a hard coughing spell or light exercise can cause severe pain and damage. Complete rest is needed.

    These damaged cells have to be cleared completely of this calcium before one can resume activity to avoid more serious consequences including death.
    This is very acute in young people under the age of 24 as the brain is still growing and developing.

    Please, coaches and parents know this, every severe contact to the head can cause some cells to expel potassium and take on calcium. A second, even slight bump, with the cells still containing calcium, can solidify and be even more deadly.
    Ian Cobb

    • habsfan0 says:

      Ian, is there some type of test which can confirm whether or not calcium has been completely cleared? An MRI,perhaps?

      • Ian Cobb says:

        There is, but you will have to get a neurologist to explain it. I am not trained to do so.

      • Ian Cobb says:

        If a blow to your head, neck or upper body has caused symptoms such as a headache, dizziness, nausea or loss of consciousness, you’ve had a concussion. Signs and symptoms of these injuries may not appear until hours or days after the injury. Brain imaging may be required to determine whether the injury is severe and has caused bleeding or swelling in your skull.

        Tests your doctor may perform or recommend include:

        Neurological exam
        After your doctor asks detailed questions about your injury, he or she may perform a neurological exam. This evaluation includes checking your:

        Memory and concentration
        Strength and sensation

        Imaging tests
        A cranial computerized tomography (CT) scan is the standard test to assess the brain right after injury. A CT scanner takes multiple cross-sectional X-rays and combines all the resulting images to produce detailed, two-dimensional images of your skull and brain. During the procedure, you lie still on a table that slides through a large, doughnut-shaped X-ray machine. The scan is painless and generally takes less than 10 minutes.

        Brain imaging isn’t always required after a concussive traumatic brain injury. You’re more likely to need a scan if you:

        Are an older adult
        Fell from a height of more than 3 feet (1 meter)
        Were hit by a car or ejected from your car seat in a motor vehicle accident
        Are under the influence of alcohol or drugs
        Are unable to recall the accident for at least 30 minutes after it occurred
        Have persistent trouble with short-term memory — that is, retaining new information — after you’ve completely regained consciousness
        Vomited multiple times
        Had a seizure
        Suffered bruises, scrapes or cuts on your head and neck
        Are confused or have any other neurological symptoms, especially if the symptoms are getting worse

        You may need to be hospitalized overnight for observation after a concussion. If your doctor says it’s OK for you to be observed at home, someone should check on you every few hours for at least 24 hours. You may need to be awakened periodically to make sure you can be roused to normal consciousness.

    • Dwayne33 says:

      My 9 year old nephew was at my house Saturday night watching the game with me. He is a huge Red Wings fan! He asked me if I was the G.M. in Montreal would I trade Gallagher and Galchenyuk to Detroit for Zetterberg and Datsyuk right now! Very interesting question from a 9 year old! But after thinking about it for a minute, I said no way! Too much youth and potential to trade away. But the two Wings sure would look good in red, white, and blue! Any thoughts?

  20. commandant says:

    One thing that could cause problems tonight is that Carolina has both Eric and Jordan Staal at Centre, and their size up the middle will be an issue for the Habs.

    I bet that Plekanec can handle one of them, but I think we need to keep Eller at C (and not move to Wing in Gallagher’s spot) in order to handle the other.

    DD struggles against these big centres, and Chucky isn’t ready for these minutes yet.

    Go Habs Go!
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    • 24 Cups says:

      Point well taken. Not to mention that I don’t remember Eller playing RW, it was usually LW. Like it or not, either Armstrong or White will have to take Gallagher’s place and try and generate some offense.

      Armstrong would probably be the best choice.

    • Loonie says:

      In my opinion this isn’t just a Carolina problem, it’s an every game issue. It’s just a matter of when and how often this personnel decisions bites the team in the rear.

      • commandant says:

        There are only a select few teams who have two centres the size (and skill) of Staal and Staal.

        Still I think you are right in that long term personnel decisions have to be made, which is why I think DD’s long term position on this team is LW where he will have much less defensive responsibility.

        Go Habs Go!
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      • 24 Cups says:

        Tom – Doug Murray has only missed one game this year and has averaged 17 ATOI.

        You must be thinking of someone else.

        • Loonie says:

          I read that he was scratched again since that game.

          Either way if he was a healthy scratch with his age and experience it suggests he isn’t really an integral part of what San Jose’s trying to accomplish.

          Also doesn’t change what his value to a team like the Habs is.

          • 24 Cups says:

            Despite the fast start, a few more losses and Wilson will be forced to make moves. That team is on the clock.

  21. Mark C says:

    Tomas Kaberle…was that the guy traded for a 1st, conditional 2nd, and B-level prospect a few years ago or is that someone else?

    I find this notion that he can’t be moved based solely on ones preconceived, highly biased, determination of Kaberle’s value, and not on recent trades made in the NHL (e.g. Zedlicky).

    • 24 Cups says:

      Boston overpaid on that deal (Colbourne was the prospect). Gotta give credit to Burke on that one. Kaberle didn’t do a thing until the semi-final. Having said that, he did improve during the last dozen games and the Bruins did win the Cup. I’ll trade a low 1st and 2nd rounder for a Cup any day of the week.

      The main issue with trading Kaberle is he has another year left on his contract at 4.2M.

      • Mark C says:

        Agree on all counts. I would only add that there are now ways in the current CBA to help soften Kaberle’s cap hit next year.

        • 24 Cups says:

          I guess that is a question that MB will have to answer. Does he wait out the year and get 4.2M off the cap hit, or trade Kaberle and then have part of his traded cap space eat up room next year?

          The team is bound to have an injury on defense this year so at least Kaberle acts as insurance. There will be no need to trade a 2nd rounder like in other years.

  22. HabFanSince72 says:

    I’ve come around re: fighting. But why not make it even better?

    First, fights impede the flow of the game. Second, everyone hates those stupid “staged” fights. Third, fighting on skates looks silly. Fourth, the enforcers can’t really play the game – they take up a valuable roster spot.

    So let’s solve all four problems by having the fights separate from the game.

    If a player from the opposing team gives you offence – say they injure one of your players, or you just want to send them a message – or maybe their keeper is so good he’s threatening to knock your team out of the playoffs – you send your enforcer around to their house after the game. Maybe two or three enforcers. With weapons. If they’re not home maybe you rough up their family. Just to send a message.

    You’d still have a code, just like the mafia. But you could speed up the actual game and still take care of business.

    • Loonie says:

      Not a bad idea in theory but since players can be penalized off of the ice we’d probably have to deal with guys like Kelly Sutherland dishing out instigating penalties for such actions.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Hadn’t thought of that.

        OK then. A team could send a bouquet of roses to a player’s house on Valentine’s day while he’s on a road trip. Make it seem like it is from him. His wife and kids would love the gift. They would smell the lovely bouquet every day while they waited for dad to come home.

        Little do they know that the flowers are laced with anthrax.

    • Mattyleg says:

      That’s a ridiculous idea.

      I think they should have the enforcers fight on a pedestal behind the bench, in a cage. When one team needs to send a message, their enforcer fights the opposing one.

      The game stops, and the enforcers fight it out. I see jets of flame and costumes.

      Habs could have Patriote-inspired costume – with a ceinture fleché and a tuque. Ottawa would have a gladiator, NY could have a Ranger and an Islander, etc. etc.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        The Islanders: a surfer smoking a joint saying hey man chill.

      • Chuck says:

        Oooo ooo!!! They could fight in a cage suspended 10 feet above centre ice! First one to escape the confines of the cage then climb down the ladder to touch the ice wins!

        Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.

    • Tharsis says:

      I like the idea but it could use a bit of tweeking. if there is a need for a staged fight lets go full MMA.

      Increase the roster to 24 players and each team should have a mixed martial arts fighter on the roster. They can sign them to contracts just like hockey players, you can even draft them from one of the major leagues. When something egregious happens on the ice, the coaches throw down a gauntlet, and the other coach must accept or take a double minor. Once the other coach accepts, the lights in the arena go down and a spotlight focuses halfway up the stands where there is a special caged ring. The fighters come out and fight until there is a knockout, at which point the losing team is given a 2 minute penalty and the play resumes.

      A completely difference scenario however could be where, once the gauntlet is thrown and accepted, the cameras switch to a specially built oval racing track which surrounds the outside of the arena. At which point there is a head to head nascar challenge of one lap around the track. The losing team takes the two minute penalty.

      This is not as violent but it will definitely cater to the smaller markets.


      Fate leads the willing, and drags along the reluctant.

      • Bash says:

        That would work but I’m not sure the owners are willing to give up seating or parking capacity. And an extra contract or two might count against the cap.

        What about having the coaches go at between periods while trying to avoid the Zamboni?

        What is our lineup?

        “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

    • boing007 says:

      Or send them to a telephone booth just inside the Zamboni entrance where they can fight it out.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  23. OMG says:

    Should be a good game tonight. The teams are pretty even. I see MT put a couple of tough guys with Galchenyuk. Could prove interesting. Hope we can come up with two points.

  24. Bash says:

    Orchestrated fights should revert to the manly art of fish boxing. The players stand toe to toe with a large carp in each hand and hammer away.

    “If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.” (anon)

  25. PrimeTime says:

    And this us why unrealistic fans will always be dissatisfied…..go back your comic book world of heroes and villians!!

    The Dude, 18 February, 2013
    And this my Hab friends is why the Canadiens will never do well ,not until the fan base start saying”HELL NO!” This is sposed to be the “world famous Montreal Canadiens” who have the biggest,fastest ,toughest group of Stanley Cup “year after year” winners …Who score at random and have the best core of Dmen EVER!
    Kaberle “SUCKS!”


    • FunkyCrabChairNF says:

      Tell me about it, right! I think you got the nail on the head… lotsa comic book junkie juvenile personalities ’round deez parts.

    • ed says:

      do you ever have any thoughts of your own Mr. Prime Time?

      every time I make the mistake of reading one of your posts, you are either bashing a poster here, or you are trying to ridicule the entire community of posters here.

      it might be time to add something to the discussion.

  26. Ian Cobb says:

    Here is where we place in a 30 team league compared to last week.

    Points—–—19, We are in 5th place.. Last week 13, for 11th place.

    Goals For—40, We are in 10th place.. Last week 31, for12th place.

    G. Against–34, We are in 8th place.. Last week 30, for 13th place.

    In just 1 month of hockey, we have come from the bottom of the heap last year to a 5th place hockey club. Can we keep this going?

  27. habsfan0 says:

    How come no “Family Day” or “Jour de la Famille” in Quebec?
    Doesn’t Quebec have families?

  28. commandant says:

    About Markov slowing down.

    I don’t think it has anything to do with the age and with him being unable to play big minutes anymore, I think its the natural progression of any player returning from injury.

    When a player has a long injury, he normally comes back full of adrenaline and that compensates for the poor conditioning (no amount of rehab gets you into game shape, and playing under 20 minutes a night in the KHL was not getting Markov into shape to play 25+ in the NHL).

    Now we are seeing the second stage of things in Markov, his adrenaline after the new start has worn off, and his conditioning is taking time to catch up after he adds 5 minutes per night at increased speed of the NHL.

    In a couple more weeks, the conditioning level will be there and Markov will be back to his normal self.

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  29. HabFanSince72 says:

    Which Hab has the hottest wife/girlfriend? With links please.

  30. Ian Cobb says:

    A heads up for next Saturday, on the sports page of the Mtl. Gazette!

    Toe Blake would have been 100 years old, and still no banners or recognition in the Bell Center. After he brought league championships and Cup after Cup to Montreal that has never been duplicated in the history of the game.

  31. Loonie says:

    The idea that Kaberle can’t be moved is ridiculous.

    There are 13 teams who need to acquire salary this off-season to hit the cap floor.

    He only has that one season left on his contract and can contribute significantly to a powerplay.

    Many don’t like Kaberle, but denying what his abilities are while focusing on his weaknesses is short sighted and completely ignores what his contributions and role have been for the duration of his career.

    • commandant says:


      Add to that the fact that the Habs could retain some of his salary, and cap hit (say 1million) in a trade, and still get an asset in return, instead of using the buyout, and you have a guy who could be traded.

      I’d look at Philly. That defence was brutal the other night and shows no ability to move the puck. Another candidate would be Detroit, or even Ottawa (if they don’t decide to sell instead).

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    • Hobie Hansen says:

      We can argue yes/no, yes/no, yes/no all day and night. We’ll just have to be patient and see how it unfolds. Offer stand though, I’ll eat my hat if anything other than him being bought out this summer by the Habs takes place.

  32. habstrinifan says:

    I am not inclined to blame individual players for our PP ‘woes’, if indeed it is abnormally ‘woeful’ given how our talent pool compares with lite teams with elite scoring and D men.

    Our player started off hot with Diaz and Markov, then declined, then went hot again with Markov and P.K then declined and we are back with Diaz and Markov.

    It is one thing to say that our PP must be in the top 5 for us to be successful(which I dont believe anymore once all our injuries clear) and make it a top 5 PP.

    I will admie though that our PP is too shots from the point oriented… in my humble and thus far (this year) mostly WRONG opinion.

  33. HabFanSince72 says:

    It’s a fair bet that we couldn’t get much for either Kaberle so why not keep him? Long season. Injuries likely.

    • Loonie says:

      If I could get anything for him I’d move him. But I wouldn’t be pulling out the violin if I had to keep him on the roster for the season.

    • habs03 says:

      Doubt anyone has interest now, but at the trade deadline a team might give up a pick for him. Short season, a lot of teams are going to think they are in the playoff race, a lot of buyers, and puck moving dmen are always wanted at the deadline. And with the buyout clause, maybe a rich team will take its chance. Plus look last year, Devils gave up a 2nd round pick for Zidlicky, who has a similar contract as Kaberle (at the time of the trade), and both are similar in how they have been playing last few years.

    • habstrinifan says:

      It’s the same conclusion my wife reached… re her own PP guy.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      By the time the deadline rolls around we get the pro-rated amount for the remainder of the season for any guy we pickup through a trade. I’m not a capologist but I believe that’s the story.

      We’ll just have to live with the Kaberle contract, they should probably send him home like they did with Gomez, and Bergevin should pick up a big, steady defensman as a rental or permanent player at the deadline.

    • The Dude says:

      And this my Hab friends is why the Canadiens will never do well ,not until the fan base start saying”HELL NO!” This is sposed to be the “world famous Montreal Canadiens” who have the biggest,fastest ,toughest group of Stanley Cup “year after year” winners …Who score at random and have the best core of Dmen EVER!
      Kaberle “SUCKS!”

  34. Sportfan says:

    Lol did you guys see Begin’s fight and the little flip he did, fighting doesn’t bother me, but if it evolves to people trying to flip people like it was MMA then it really needs to stop. it still is Hockey not a place to box, wrestle or MMA


    • habstrinifan says:

      Why is it unethical to flip a Chara for instance who’s pumelling a smaller guy like White for instance. I say if you allow me to fight, you must allow me all the leeway to protect myself and gain the upper hand without using sticks/skates etc.

    • Strummer says:

      Do you know how ridiculous it sounds to start making up rules for something that’s illegal in the first place?
      It’s like the so-called “code ”

      Honour among thieves?

      It’s OK for a gunman to rob a bank but he needs to mind his manners in the process.

      “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

    • sadhabsfan says:

      Hey Habs Fans, Gally’s heart and spirit from the sidelines will spur our boys on to handle the Canes tonight!

      Sad no more. That was last year! Les Canadiens sont la!

  35. Hobie Hansen says:

    I see mentions below of Kaberle getting back into the lineup or another team possibly being interested in him. I just do not see it happening.

    Simple reason, you take a forward from another team, throw him in the corner with Kaberle, 7 times out of 10, Kaberle will be out battled and lose the puck. He’s slow moving up the ice and is a complete determent to his team when on the ice.

    He’s got this lackadaisical attitude, no energy. He is completely brutal.

    He won the cup in Boston and contributed absolutely nothing to the team and they didn’t resign him. Carolina looked past that and took a shot on Kaberle and they realized they made a huge mistake and couldn’t believe their luck when Montreal came knocking.

    Now Therrien and Bergevin have seen him first hand and realized how awful he is as well.

    I would be beside myself if any team wants to pick him up, even if Montreal is able to eat some of the salary. No matter what Kaberle’s salary is, by adding him to a team you make the team worse!

    • Loonie says:

      Dan Boyle is a very similar player albeit with more size and compete level in his game.

      Kaberle’s been the same his entire career. He isn’t lazy, he’s slow. I agree he’s soft but he contributes offense.

      It’s a matter of whether or not he’s useful in your lineup. On a team that doesn’t require him to play significant minutes at even strength he’d be very valuable.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        I’ll eat my hat if any team shows interest. No GM or coach would want that lazy, slow and overpaid slouch infecting their dressing room.

        • Loonie says:

          Enough sugar coating. How do you really feel about him Hobie?

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            I honestly don’t mind him personally. I was hoping the good interviews he did prior to the season translated into good play on the ice.

            But if he’s got Diaz and Boullion beating him out for playing time, he’s got nothing to offer that another team wouldn’t make a call down to the farm for.

          • Loonie says:

            Diaz is better and Bouillon’s more versatile.

            Doug Murray’s been a healthy scratch in San Jose quite often this season but would be a great addition for a lot of clubs.

            It doesn’t make him a bum.

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            When Diaz is better and Boullion is more versatile, that would probably land you far down the depth chart on any team. Probably not in the top 6 defensen. Maybe Kaberele could squeeze in somewhere as the 6th guy but at $4.5 million a season? Even at $1.5 million a season it’s a ripoff.

            We all want him traded but we have to be realistic and not make up scenarios and repeat them over and over until you force yourself to believe it could happen.

          • Loonie says:

            You mean like you making up that he has no value?

            It isn’t like he’s on a 5 year deal Hobie. One season left.

        • Ian Cobb says:

          Gomez has a contract this year! and playing every game for a winning club! Just saying.
          No one was more critical than myself last year about Kaberle. But I was just pointing out that he did indeed lead our team in PP points last year.

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            Gomez was bought out and now makes 10% of what he used to. We can’t buy kaberle out until the summer.

          • hfotwc says:

            Since Gomez joined the Sharks 10 games ago, their record is 3-4-3. Not exactly a winning record. Coincidence?

    • shiram says:

      I think a more balanced team could probably find a spot for Kaberle, but the Habs don’t have the team to add in Kaberle without weakening themselves.
      Just gotta find that hopeful GM on a good day!

    • Propwash says:

      Kaberle was brought in to try and help kickstart the powerplay seeing that Markov was out of the picture.


    • mrhabby says:

      kaberle sucks…period. stop trying to justify his move back in the lineup other than an injury situation.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      All what you said is true, but I repeat, when not challenged, and he is on the PP he is much more productive than Emilin, Boullion or (Dias so far) he did lead our team in PP points last year. Thats all I’m saying. And our PP is not effective right now.
      To many games close together this year for older legs, Boullion and Markov.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Kaberle was the Bruins’ top scorer among d-men during the playoffs.

      We can’t use him but a team lacking a powerplay QB might well find him useful.

    • boing007 says:

      That’s why people call him Kaberlazy. Cuz he is.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  36. shiram says:

    Maybe I have not watched the hit on Gally enough, but while it was boarding, or hit from behind, it does not seem like such an outlandish hit, same kind of hits happen frequently, with maybe Gally’s positionning being the odd element in this, and probably a great factor in his concussion, well that and his previous concussions.
    Again, having some 4 minute thug in the lineup would have brought the Habs nothing else than a measure of vengeance.

    • Loonie says:

      Schenn’s hands didn’t need to be nearly as high as they were, but that check does happen routinely and the NHL has no interest in enforcing any rules that prevent hands coming up on hits by the hitter or the hit-ee.

      The worst part is that this started in minor hockey years ago. Kids who weren’t taught how to bodycheck or take a bodycheck properly began using their hands as a defense. The players being checked started bringing their hands up to deter opposing players from checking(and it isn’t called a penalty near often enough at any level) and subsequently players doing the checking began to react by bringing their hands up on most hits.

      It really is unfortunate and I feel it’s among the worst things in hockey.

      Cowardly act by the checker and cowardly act by the person being checked.

      For the safety of the game and promotion of good hockey it should be mandated that strict rule enforcement under roughing and high-sticking are called when these plays happen.

  37. mrhabby says:

    habs need to deal with the Stall brothers in order to win tonight…with no skinner it falls on those guys. stalls are beasts.

  38. habs03 says:

    Gotta say this for Kaberle tho, he has played 6 games, is a +2, with only 1 point, but with little pp time after that first game, but has not be on the ice for a goal against. I really think he can actually help a team like the Avs.

  39. Ian Cobb says:

    Our PP is sputtering,
    mostly because Markov is playing to many min. during the game, then plays 75% of the PP. He plays on the PKill as well. Therrien needs to cut back his min. for Markov to have fresher legs to be more effective for the oldest D man.

    Another large point that has been overlooked by Therrien, is our D man that produced the most points on the power play last year, Kaberle!
    Not the guy I want in 5 on 5, or clearing people from in front of Cary, but on the power play he excels! He adds more value than does Emilin, Boullion or I might even say Dias, who is coming along nicely.
    Again don’t get me wrong, I love the way Emilin hits in open ice or on the boards. But handling the puck is not Emilin’s forte. For us to go 0 for 17 on the PP, is unacceptable.

    • commandant says:

      You can’t put in Kaberle just for the PP without removing another element of a winning lineup.

      Go Habs Go!
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      • SmartDog says:

        What you said

        Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

        • Ian Cobb says:

          Kaberle is not what I want during the game, but on the power play he gets the puck on net or on someones blade. He can make plays when the heat is off. It is a real luxury to just play him on the second PP unit that we probably can’t afford. But like I said he led our team in PP points last year.

    • habs03 says:

      Problem is who to you take out to get Kaberle in? If you look at every pairing, there is a puck mover with a stay at home d-men. Kaberle isn’t better than Markov, Diaz or Subban. I mean you could put Gorges and Subban, together, and take out Bouillon but than you’ll have Kaberle and Daiz on the 3rd pair…soft as butter.

      • Ian Cobb says:

        If we played 7 D it would make Markov more effective. But I know, as soon as we do that, one of our forwards will go down screwing up our lines.

        • habs03 says:

          Markov hasn’t really played in a couple years, so I don’t think that age is much of a factor, I mean if his knee is 100%, and the amount of minutes doesn’t affect it, I have no worries him playing 24min. What I do think would make Markov better, is if MT puts Gorges and Subban back together and have them face other teams top lines, and have Markov and Emelin facing other teams 2nd lines, this way Markov might be able to create more offensive 5on5. Also get Subban back to 24 min a game, and then you’ll have either Markov or Subban on the ice for almost 50min of the game 🙂

    • showey47 says:

      I get what you are saying Ian and trust me i would like to see kaberle playing because it would make it alot easier to move him in a trade. But when our defence isn’t the most physical as it already is its tough to bring him in unless diaz struggles or heaven forbid markov gets hurt. I wonder though if MB would consider moving kaberle to ottawa with karlsson done for the year.

      • Ian Cobb says:

        Ottawa might be interested, but that leaves us to bring up another kid to early from the farm Showey.

        • showey47 says:

          I think we would still be alright. We would still have weber as #7 and st.denis as a #8. I’m looking at it as more of an oppurtunity to move a big salary without having to use the 2nd buyout. We are going to need the cap space with the cap dropping about 7 million this summer.

    • Born in a Bad Year says:

      The defencemen have stopped switching sides. Go look at the first ten PP goals, six of them were scored when the defencemen were on their off wings with their sticks to centre ice. Shots go quicker, goalies get less time to get set an look around screens. Really simple stuff, but they stopped doing it.

  40. Mattyleg says:

    Blaaaah! Wish that Gally was with us!

    Should be an interesting game tonight.
    This is such a weird season.
    Caps just went on a 3-game winning streak after being absolutely brutal, Ryan Miller turning into Mister Swearsomuch, Sharts collapsing… Us in second in our division…


    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • sadhabsfan says:

      Gally arguably our best guy playing with the most heart. Let’s hope he returns quickly and safely!

      Sad no more. That was last year! Les Canadiens sont la!

  41. HabinBurlington says:

    I don’t think MT has told White not to protect his teammates, but rather to work on picking his spots. White is still new to the NHL game and will have to learn when to make his presence felt. I mentioned before, but I hope White watched some games with Mellanby, a perfect guy to explain how to play a smart and physical role in the NHL.

    • commandant says:

      I agree.

      I don’t think they had a big problem with his fight to stick up for Gorges in the Florida game. Note that he played the very next night vs Ottawa. Therrien didn’t bench him after that penalty, no matter what the revisionist history posts tell you.

      Where he did bench him was after selfish penalties in the Ottawa and Buffalo games.

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    • Ian Cobb says:

      I think White will be more disciplined today, if not he will be done in Montreal.
      Gallagher should miss a week if he indeed had another concussion, feeling fine does not necessarily mean that all calcium has been flushed from the neurons.

    • habstrinifan says:

      100% agree in both not believing Therrien told White not to protect teammates and that he has to pick his spots. I would like White to reduce his actual fights while being always on hand to push people around. I recall a game White played against Minnesota which actually seemed to be the point at which he seemed destined to be a regular in the lineup. Then Staubitz came and he tried to compete for the ‘goon’ position I guess.
      I think he could become a very useful player although I still believe Blunden will be a better fit on tne team.

  42. ProHabs says:

    After a promising start to his tenure, shanny is just as bad as Burke and Campbell were at their jobs. Amazing that you can do such a bad job and still keep your post

  43. Marc10 says:

    Just saw the hit on Skinner. Ouch…

  44. Welks says:

    White is in. What would the best way to set up the lines based on how Cole is playing.

    I have a feeling we would see this:
    Bourque Pleks Gionta (no brainer there)
    Max DD Eller
    Prust Chucky Cole
    Moen White Armstrong


  45. HabinBurlington says:

    To all the Habs fan in Ontario, Happy Family Day. Still can’t get used to a long weekend in Feb.

    • Muckbringer says:

      Cheers bud. Nice to be able to have a few with walking dead for once!

      Conan: Almost 20 years of pitiless cumber! No rest, no sleep like other men. And yet the spring wind blows, Subotai. Have you ever felt such a wind?
      Subotai: They blow where I live too. In the north of every man’s heart.
      Conan: It’s never too late, Subotai.
      Subotai: No. It would only lead me back here another day. In even worse company.
      Conan: For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.

  46. Cal says:

    Today I definitely have Carolina on my mind:

    Now with chintzy slideshow.

  47. HabinBurlington says:

    Ryan Miller really went off after game yesterday. Don’t often hear a goalie critique how his team is playing in such a negative way. Something is wrong there, that roster appears well loaded.

  48. 24 Cups says:

    Carolina’s record so far this year is the same as Montreal’s in almost every way. The only difference will be in net.

  49. AliHaba says:

    So if we can pull out a win tonight we move into second in the conference and FIRST in the division. Who’d a thunk it!

    Tim Bozon 57 games 75 points +30
    Charles Hudon 46 59 +13
    Olivier Archambault 53 51 -4
    Brady Vail 56 45 -14
    Danny Kristo 28 39 E
    Darren Dietz 58 39 -5
    Erik Nystrom 44 31 +7
    Sebastian Collberg 58 29 +8
    Magnus Nygren 45 25 +7
    Daniel Pribyl 40 21 +12
    Dalton Thrower 43 21 +14
    Mark MacMillan 30 18 E
    Dustin Walsh 20 17 E
    John Westin 45 17 -3
    Mac Bennett 22 15 E
    Mike Cichy 31 15 E
    Maxim Trunev 41 8 E
    Josiah Didier 23 6 E
    Colin Sullivan 24 1 E

    You might notice that there’s no change in the university kids stats because they had the weekend off in preparation for playoffs. Will be interesting to see how they perform in crunch time especially the UND boys (Kristo and MacMillan) who are ranked 7th nationally. Colin Sullivan’s Boston College team is ranked 4th although he is not a go-to guy on this team as yet. Mike Cichy plays for #6 Western Michigan.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Thanks again Ali. I have to start paying more attention to Bozon. CHeers.


    • Cal says:

      Thanks for the update, Ali. Much appreciated.

    • Muckbringer says:

      ?… check stats after sat game? I thunk it then.

      Conan: Almost 20 years of pitiless cumber! No rest, no sleep like other men. And yet the spring wind blows, Subotai. Have you ever felt such a wind?
      Subotai: They blow where I live too. In the north of every man’s heart.
      Conan: It’s never too late, Subotai.
      Subotai: No. It would only lead me back here another day. In even worse company.
      Conan: For us, there is no spring. Just the wind that smells fresh before the storm.

    • HabFab says:

      Bud, don’t believe Westin belongs to the Habs any more. He had to be signed last summer and wasn’t.

  50. adamkennelly says:

    Lets not go all nancy because Gallagher got concussed by a hard hit. Contact game. Period. Game – played by men, for money.

    and yes – I think that the Habs need a true enforcer in their line-up to keep opponents a little more in check. Why the hell are we always talking about team toughness around here? it’s always in response to an incident where it didn’t work…no big deal that Gorges had to fight or Gallagher got hammered – cause we are team tough. You know who doesn’t ever talk about being team tough? actual tough teams.

    like saying, “I’m not book smart – I’m street smart”

    translation, “I’m not actually smart – I’m pretend smart”

    • remi_10069 says:

      Who is nancy? Can she fight? I hope she’s smart


    • Habfan10912 says:

      Call me Nancy if you like. This game has always been a contact game but these types of dangerous hits have become an epidemic in recent times. There is a total disregard for player saftey in fact one could go as far as saying many hits are with the intent to injure as opposed to seperating player from the puck.
      I’ll give you the fact that today’s players are in fact bigger and stronger (for reasons we’ll leave for another debate) but for the good of the game we cannot afford to lose our Crosby’s and Karlson’s to injury. The game suffers.

    • kholdstare says:

      street smart = pretend smart?

      Pretentious much? Only such wisdom can come from a suburban sheltered life. Also I dont see how that works at all in what you are saying, tough teams dont talk about being tough, not sure how that fits in your whole book smart analogy. =pretend smart

      • remi_10069 says:

        The analogy works. If you’re tough, you don’t talk about being tough. If you’re smart, you don’t talk about being smart.

        Someone who claims to be “street smart” is usually not, teams that talk about being tough, aren’t.



        • kholdstare says:

          When have the habs ever referred to themselves being tough? My mistake if they did, but thats just something I have never heard.

          Analogy only works if it is coming directly from presenter, capiche?

          • habstrinifan says:

            To be fair… they have rferred to themselves in the past as having or playing ‘team toughness’.

          • kholdstare says:

            right, okay, then I am wrong. The whole there is no such thing as street smart is moronic. That is mainly what I was bringing up. If we are going to argue semantics, then fine his awkward analogy fits perfectly in the scenario because the team has used the word tough, I am deeply sorry Adam. At least Remi qualified it and said that they are”usually not”.

      • adamkennelly says:

        wow, you couldn’t be more wrong if you tried. I’ll type slower next time so you can follow. Remi figured it out. Capiche?

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      And then there’s the kind of smart Adam is: not.

  51. Cal says:

    Shorthanded Habs facing Captain Kirk’s squad. Who will be the ‘Cane wearing red, thus forfeiting himself for the cause of a good sci-fi story?
    Lots of games this week and Habs will be missing Price, PK and Gallagher tonight. Budaj, Kaberle and White are lower quality substitutes, but they will have to do. Should be fun to see how the Staals do together. Thus far, a record equaling the Habs. Will being Skinnerless screw up their chemistry?
    Ought to be a good one.


  52. Habfan10912 says:

    From Francois Gagnon: “PK Subban comme bien du monde à Montréal, est aux prises avec les contrecoups d’une grippe. Cas douteux pour ce soir”

    Loosely Translated: PK questionable for tonight.

    • Kfourn says:

      Due to flu like symptoms

      Well, he’s kind of had it in for me ever since I accidentally ran over his dog. Actually, replace “accidentally” with “repeatedly” and replace “dog” with “son.”

      “It’s sad when our rookies have no NHL experience before they jump up to the NHL.” – nunacanadien

  53. Habfan10912 says:

    Here is a video of the hit during the Springfield game last night. The hit was actually less of a hit then Gallaghers.


  54. Habfan10912 says:

    AHL game suspended after a boarding incident seriously injures player. At least the offender got a 4 minute penalty.



    • habstrinifan says:

      That is why this nonsense about “intent to injure” and “hockey play” must cease. NHL uses these two phrases conjuctively. When they wish to minimise a borderline play(like Cooke’s or Schenn or Chara) they use the term there was no intent to injure and it was just a hockey play. By hockey play they dont mean a totally legal check or hit but a play of the unfortunate but common category found in every hockey game and which ofen goes unpunished.

      EDIT: And make fighting a non-hockey play period. I am guilty of wanting mu guy to beat their guy(like in a 6-0 loss) but I it is still wrong and useless and unnecessary.

      Define the rulebook. Define the on-ice punsihment. And call ALL players that break hose rules…period. And we will save the pure contact toughness which is part of the game and actually becomes the game.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Thanks Jane. That article is dead on as far as I’m concerned. Someone is going to be killed on the ice some day soon unless this garbage is stopped. I am afraid that it won’t until there is an NFL type suit brought against the league or god forbid someone does indeed die on the ice.


      • JF says:

        Agreed. I think the obsession in North American hockey with “finishing your check” is responsible for the thuggery we’re seeing in the game. The purpose of a check is to separate a player from the puck. Slamming an opponent into the boards or the ice after he has released the puck serves only to take yourself as well as your opponent out of the play, and could injure both. Such actions should result in an automatic penalty. As for the staged fights between goons, I’d be happy to see them removed altogether from the game.

        • Mustang says:

          Maybe it is just me but it seems like 90% of checking in the NHL today is into or along the boards. There appears to be much less open ice checking than I remember from years ago. Of course the players now wear a suit of armour so they can hit the boards at relatively high speed with no worry of hurting themselves while their elbow and shoulder pads can inflict considerable damage to the other guy.

          • Habfan10912 says:

            Thats a great point. So much of today’s game is cycle related that much of the action is in the corners as well.


        • boing007 says:


          Richard R
          Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  55. Timo says:

    In case someone is interested – Bates Battaglia is appearing in this season of the Amazing Race.

    There is a couple of pretty hot blondes too (who I’d like to think… well… bat for the other team)

    • Clay says:

      Lol I saw that. I even remember him as a player.

      ☞ The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool. ~ Richard Feynman ☜

  56. deane paul says:

    see lotta hab fans in denial. silence? ya’ll pretending you dont see the picture at the top of this site. schenn skating away. gallagher laying face down on the ice both hands holding his head? habs rookie laying there boys. first star of the game laying there boys! same player that was jumped and punched out in toronto laying there boys! ya all pretending 19 montreal canadiens and a coaching staff chose to do absolutely nothing about that. betcha gallaghers dad and family are real proud of their sons new team. dont know bout you guys but watching gallagher lasying there holding his head in both hands…..dont feel like a win to me. 2pts yea. but much was lost. pretend all ya want. i know what i saw. thumbs down on therieans 013 habs.


  57. SmartDog says:

    Hey Folks,
    Maybe lost in all the other fallout and follow-up from the game is this tidbit: Lars Eller won 10 of his 14 face-offs. I’m excited about this Eller revival.

    We’ve already had quite a few nice surprises this season, Eller finding his A Game on a regular basis would be another. That would give us TWO big centers rising out of the shadows. What did we ever do to deserve such riches from the hockey gods? I guess banishing Pierre Gauthier and Scott Gomez (0 goals, 2 points in 10 games as a Shark! LOL) put us on their good side. Yah, that sounds about right!

    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • Marc10 says:

      Benching the kid right out of the gate made him a better person… and a better hockey player.

      Credit MT 100% with that change. It’s all coach and a bit of Danish genetics…

      Sorry. Couldn’t help it! LOL 🙂

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      This is Eller’s A game? He works hard but he still can’t think when he has the puck on his stick.

  58. Boomer says:

    I want to live on a boat

  59. Mr. Biter says:

    Very important question which many posters can answer. What is the price of a 24 of beer (the regular stuff, Molsons, Labatts) in Quebec and Ontario?
    Going up in Manitoba to over $46.00 per case shortly?

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

  60. ProHabs says:

    Nice to see Steve Begin get the winning goal for the Flames. Why the heck did we ever get rid of that guy.

  61. MikeHabs says:

    I was at the game last night. Good win but unfortunate losses in terms of injuries. However, Pacioretty is to be in and Gallagher is DTD but apparently forgot his name and didn’t know he scored. It was an ugly hit and I was surprised nothing was called on the play.

    Hudon Explodes In This Week’s Prospect Update: http://www.allaboutthehabs.ca/prospect-update-110213-170213/
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  62. deane paul says:

    oh white is in now is he? hope if someone rams one of the habs rookies head first into the boards and puts him out with a concussion, i hope white will let the league know that it will not be shrugged off. oh, too late…already happened. ..when push comes to shove the habs don’t have the parts…or character. too bad for a small trooper like gallagher….had a team like the bruins drafted him there would be a war on the ice while he got checked out in the room. or it would not have happened at all. two saturday nights in a row. in your own barn. … dont rush back kid, nobody on that team has your back.

    • Mr. Biter says:

      That’s right ,it will be White’s fault if he’s in the box after standing up for a teamate and Boone will dust off the same goat’s head picture.
      Expect bad grammer next week as annual buying trip to Vegas so I’ll be joining Frontanac for early cocktails as games start at 4:30 Vegas Time. This year might even put some schekels on a couple of Habs games.
      Via Las Vegas!

      Mr. Biter
      No Guts No Glory

  63. AngryHabsFan says:

    Tough break for Gally. Hopefully it’s not a serve concussion but in saying that all concussions are obviously a horrible thing.

    On a lighter note, the Top Ten things you might not have noticed about Hockey Day in America:


  64. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …a couple impressions I had going over the photos from Our Habs last practice before departing for New York

    …it appears We have a very happy Team, and that is mostly due, (excuse Me as I bite My tongue), to M. Michel Therrien

    …no photo of Kaberle, whom may not be ‘as happy’ as the Group

    …Ryan White seems to have sprung for a haircut 🙂

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY

    Campaign to Retire Toe Blake’s Number 6 !!!

    …and, last, but not least: FREE PK !!!

  65. The Jackal says:

    Jets came close to tying it up against the stupid Buffoons, but the pieces of crap go SO lucky. How does that puck not cross the line? The Bruins have got to be the luckiest team, they are not that good.

  66. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …best column by Stu Cowen I have read to this time: ‘ Stu Cowan: We don’t know sports heroes ‘


    • HabinBurlington says:

      Good read, I have often been guilty of throwing words like hero and idol around loosely. Reminds me of when as a young kid I got my first Habs sweater for Christmas. I then took it back to store and got #10 and Lafleur on the back. My father was none to impressed and said that is not who you are and he doesn’t represent you and this family. I thought he was being ridiculous at the time. I understand now what he meant. Of course I just bought a new Lafleur jersey. 🙂

  67. habs001 says:

    Gallagher has experienced scoring a lot of goals and getting points (same with DD) prior to the NHL…I believe this experience is valuable and translates into knowing how to score..On the other hand Eller has experienced scoring goals and producing points at a much lower rate than these two prior to the NHL …I know the Eller supporters will get upset again but as of now(i hope it changes) i just dont see him having the feel to produce goals and points…

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      IDK if I buy the fact DD scored more goals in the CHL makes him more prone to being a goal scorer in the NHL than Eller. I’m sure Eller puts as many pucks in the net during practice as DD does. It’s really tough to say exactly what Eller is capable of being put on the 4th line. He would really help his cause by taking Gallagher’s spot tomorrow and playing his best.

      Do I sense a little contempt when you say “I know the Eller supporters will get upset again..” as if we’ll all start yelling rabble rabble rabble and death to DD?

  68. topher5468 says:

    Pretty PPG for Rangers vs Caps, It doesn’t get any sweeter than that

    “It’s not an obsession, It’s a way of life..”

  69. OMG says:

    Boston will win their game ….

    • habs001 says:

      Boston will make the playoffs ..it is better that they beat teams that will be fighting for playoff spots…if the Habs hope to win the division than they will probably will have to beat the Bruins in all remaining games and chances still are the Habs will be fighting more for a playoff spot than the division…

    • The Jackal says:

      I’ve been to Boston before…. it was awful.

  70. HabFab says:

    Hate the SOB but good chance it has to do with his new born baby so….

    • HabinBurlington says:

      So we’re sure he didn’t just forget his passport then?

      • Mattyleg says:

        Hey Ger, checked out the Junk Turd tweet you posted earlier.
        He’s hilarious.
        He resembles Torts so closely, you’d think they were the same person.
        Physically similar, emotionally similar, similarly ambitious…

        Only difference is that Tortorella has had success doing what he loves, and has quite a bit of respect within both his fields of expertise.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

  71. HabFab says:

    For all the golfers out there. Obama had a game with Tiger.

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