Habs’ Gallagher sidelined with concussion

Coming off a 4-1 win over the Philadelphia Flyers on Saturday at the Bell Centre, the Canadiens practised at noon Sunday in Brossard as they prepare for a busy week with four games in six days.

The Canadiens play the Carolina Hurricanes Monday at the Bell Centre (7:30 p.m., TSN-HABS, RDS, TSN 690 Radio) before travelling to New York to face the Rangers Tuesday night. The New York Islanders visit the Bell Centre Thursday night, followed by the Rangers on Saturday.

Coach Michel Therrien said Brendan Gallagher suffered a concussion when he was hit by Philadelphia defenceman Luke Schenn in the third period Saturday. The Canadiens will follow   the league-mandated concussion protocol. Therrien said Gallagher felt fine on Sunday morning, but he will not play Monday night. It is the second concussion for Gallagher, who suffered one in junior hockey.

Max Pacioretty, who left Saturday’s game after he was cut by Kimmo Timonen’s skate and bruised a rib, practised Sunday and will play Monday. Ditto for Colby Armstrong, who was hit in the face with a puck Saturday.

Carey Price, who missed Saturday’s game with the flu, didn’t practise, but he’s feeling better. He’ll be the backup Monday as Peter Budaj gets another start after stopping 18 of 19 shots against the Flyers. Therrien said he wanted Price to get in a couple of practices before returning to action.

P.K. Subban was sent home after he showed up with a sore throat Sunday, but it’s possible he will play Monday. Ryan White, who has been in Therrien’s doghouse for taking undisciplined penalties and was a healthy scratch the last four games, will take Gallagher’s place in the lineup.

The Canadiens’ practice was short – 45 minutes – and featured a light-hearted game of something called hockey-baseball. Pacioretty said he had never played the game, but Andrei Markov told him it was popular in Russia. Go figure.  

In other news, Carolina Hurricanes coach Kirk Muller announced that Jeff Skinner, the team’s second-leading scorer, will not play Monday at the Bell Centre. He’s out with an upper-body injury. He hit his head against the boards after a collision with Toronto’s Mark Fraser Friday night.

Robert Mayer, who served as Budaj’s backup Saturday, was returned to the AHL’s Hamilton Bulldogs. Michael Bournival had a hat-trick for the Bulldogs in a 4-2 win over the Houston Aeros Saturday night in Hamilton. It was the fourth straight victory for the Bulldogs, with goaltender Dustin Tokarski – acquired in a trade last week with Tampa Bay – picking up the victory in his Hamilton debut.

(Photo by Pierre Obendrauf/The Gazette)

Gallagher sidelined with concussion, by Pat Hickey

Habs medical staff busy, by Pat Hickey

Budaj up to the task, by Dave Stubbs

An unexpected start to season for Habs, by Jack Todd

Gazette photo gallery from Habs practice Sunday

‘Canes Skinner injured, will miss Montreal game, by Raleigh News & Observer

700 Comments

  1. Phil C says:

    When I look at the Schenn hit on Gallagher, it is not an illegal check to the head, because the principal point of impact is not the head. The reference to “blindside” has been removed from rule 48, so it no longer applies.

    I don’t think it is a check from behind. If you look at the video at the 19 sec mark, Gallagher has his hand on Schenn’s back in an attempt to protect himself which means he must have saw him, and unless he is double jointed, Schenn came from the side.

    I don’t think it was interference because when Schenn committed to the hit, Gallagher was trying to play the puck, he just happened to miss it, so it was not really a late hit by NHL standards.

    But I do think the hit was boarding.

    “41.1 Boarding – A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player or goalkeeper who checks or pushes a defenseless opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to hit or impact the boards violently in the boards.”

    So the main tests for this penalty is that the player be defenseless and checked violently. I think a concussion means it was violent, and Gallagher was definitely vulnerable. The call should have been 5 min major and a game misconduct due to the injury.

    I think boarding, charging, and interference (late hits) are the three rules the NHL ignores the most and that results in the most damage to players. They have been very poor custodians of the sport.

    The only way it will change is if injured players sue the NHL into bankruptcy.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …maybe the solution to lessen the serious traumatic injuries is to limit checks into the boards to hip to hip …no forward crashing with hands/forearms and sticks

      …when against the boards, play the puck, not the man

      • Phil C says:

        Anything that stops guys from getting injured is worth a thought.

        I would say there is nothing wrong with the rules the NHL inherited, they just don’t follow them. If you check violently, it’s a penalty. If the player gets hurt as a result, it’s a game misconduct. If the player doesn’t have the puck, you can’t hit him. The rules are straight forward…the NHL’s interpretation is the problem.

        I could live with the NHL destroying itself. What really bothers me is that the NHL sets the example for minor hockey so you have young kids trying big collisions just like the pros without knowing the consequences.

  2. ProHabs says:

    For those watching the Bruins game any word on the lucic situation

  3. Danno says:

    Why does an important hockey market like New York City have the absolute worst TV camera coverage at MSG?

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    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  4. Cape Breton says:

    I don’t see how that was a dirty hit on Gally. It didn’t appear to be a hard hit.
    And folks, I luvs da Habs!!!!!

  5. HabinBurlington says:

    Budaj getting back to back starts could turn out to be a blessing. Seems to me he looks rather rigid in net, worrying more about technique than feeling the play. While technique is obviously important, getting this much game action should help him feel more comfortable in our crease.

  6. HabFab says:

    TSNBobMcKenzie – Scary moments in today’s AHL game between Springfield and Adirondack. Game suspended after Falcon Wade MacLeod collapsed, convulsed on ice. Springfield Falcons news release says MacLeod “stable and alert after sufferimg seizure following a hit into the glass during 2nd period.”

    Another one, who has to die next!

  7. Hobie Hansen says:

    1-0 Jets, for those of you that are keeping an eye on games that impact the Habs. I’m hoping the Jets win so the Habs keep top spot in the division. At the same time it would be nice to see a few Bruins get their buts’ kicked in a scrap.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Was slow on the mute button and heard Jerk Edwards complaint about a non call. That man disgust me.

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      • Mattyleg says:

        It’s just a shame because it affects their fans, if they are being told constantly that the other teams are cheating. Older fans who have had the benefit of good commentary will be able to shrug it off (although in the heat of the moment it’s hard for anyone not to get carried away) but younger fans who are being brought up with him are being taught all the wrong things.

        It’s kind of sad.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • HabinBurlington says:

          As opposed to what PJ Stock and Don Cherry teach the kids? :)

          • Mattyleg says:

            You’re right!
            I’m not saying that HNIC is any better, but at least the play-by-play isn’t so biased.
            Plenty of pundits say ridiculous things, but they aren’t partisan. Generally. They won’t say that a particular team is cheating.
            But yeah, can’t wait until those two are culled from the herd.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

  8. Habitant in Surrey says:

    http://kuklaskorner.com/hockey/comments/playing-hockey-at-fort-benning

    …here’s a little article from Kukla’s Korner named ‘Playing Hockey At Fort Benning’

    …this may be interesting to those of Us who had served or are serving in the US military

    …one of the things that was a shock to My system back in the 60s while a US Marine was the total alienation from hockey it meant living in the US South …You may have as well been talking of something from Mars to one of those good ol’ boyz when bringing up the sport I loved, hockey …even those from the projects of New York or Philly drew blank in those dayz

    …hockey at Fort Benning …was something I never thought I would hear of in My Life-time

    …to deal with My athletic restlessness and competitiveness I had to learn to bend My primary mind-set to football and boxing for several years

    …which I thoroughly enjoyed, but was very relieved to come back home to once again hear the song of blades slashing the ice

    …for Myself reading about hockey being played near Fort Benning underlines the vast inroads hockey has realized in the US, and most surprising the American South

  9. Ozmodiar says:

    Another questionable hit!! Not exactly a rare occurrence.

    Hopefully Gally will be back playing later this week. Perhaps a small transfusion from Patches would help the healing. :)

  10. The Teacher says:

    Man, I love the way Gallagher plays. Hope he recovers fully and doesn’t lose any aspect of his game.

  11. Hobie Hansen says:

    A young Winnipeg Jets player on the 4th line, James Wright, just sent Chara head over heals into the boards. Nice to see.

  12. Marc10 says:

    Just watching that play again makes me angry. He hit Gally right where his jersey would have the word ‘respect’ in minor hockey… Right at the top of the numbers, just under the name. It’s such a dangerous play.

    Yemmy used to pull this crap all the time in Russia. I guess it’s OK to turn him loose again. Maybe he can permantly injure a Giroux or a Bergeron or a Crosby and get someone’s attention at League headquarters.

    It’s all fun and games until someone gets seriously hurt. I’d get ready to be sued in Civil Court Shanny. You’re playing with fire…

  13. habs-hampton says:

    I’m not defending Schenn, but if he gets a call from Shanny, then Moen can expect one as well. That said, the officiating keeps getting worse. Williams runs the Hawks goalie today with a minute left and the Kings end up with a PP. The Prust “embellishment” call last night was a joke. It just goes on and on and on….

  14. pmaraw says:

    im just glade none of the injuries are as serious as karlsson’s injury, max pac is a beast!!! just stich it up, chics dig scars and bruised ribs heal!

  15. HabinBurlington says:

    Jack Todd with some frustrations towards Torterella on twitter.

    http://kuklaskorner.com/hockey/comments/afternoon-line73

  16. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I’m too lazy to go look up his name, but this is an out-take from a Toronto journalist’s column criticizing the empty seats and absent MuppleWeeds team (still in their dressing-room) during a celebration attempting to honor the Weeds’ ’63 Stanley Cup team, including a rare appearance from Davey Keon (one of the few Weeds I have respected back in the day): “Still, it would have been far better if the gaping empty rows of platinum and gold seats that greeted the greats were actually filled with respectful throngs. It would have been nice if those throngs offered a rousing and lasting ovation. No less an authority than Keon, only the greatest Leaf, has called the 1963 champs the best Leafs team that ever was. ”

    …God, this mirrors everything I disdain about that city and organization …simply second-rate

    …if Roger’s & Bell are to turn the culture of that Mickey Mouse organization around I would free all the corporate held platinum and gold seats and put them on the market again for the general public …and warn ticket-buyers/season ticket buyers of a ‘USE IT OR LOSE IT !’ policy

    …as the Weeds are too wealthy to fear losing such corporate business because of the demand from it’s masochistic fan-base

    • punkster says:

      Christopher, as a former Leaf fan and worshiper of all things Keon-esque I have to wade in on this subject. I had thought Leaf fans to be lacking in something until I realized it’s more likely they have something extra. I believe those 500 or more extra gene segments that other mammals have, gene segments that are missing in humans, probably account for the the differences in fans of Montreal versus other cities such as Boston, Philly and most prominently, Toronto. They are as different from us as we are from the apes.

      ***SUBBANGIN’ NOW BABY!!!***

    • Mustang says:

      A friend of mine got invited to a Laffs game last year. They had really good seats down close to the ice. He told me that each section has a bar under the stands for their section so most people suck back a few instead of heading to their seats early. I have watched a couple of Laff games since he told me about this and indeed there is almost no one in the seats at the beginning of a period. They wander back to watch the game after they finish their drinks. Of course their team has been so bad for so many years, it is little wonder that they prefer to drink than to watch the game.

  17. Sportfan says:

    Ugh Luke schen of all people he’s such a turd, I know it wasn’t intent at all but someone hit him next time haha

    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/

  18. HabinBurlington says:

    So Danica Patrick wins the Pole Position for Daytona 500. Darrell Waltrip on this achievement? “She’s the first women to sit on the pole here” Gotta love Nascar!

  19. The Jackal says:

    Wow! This league is a complete joke in terms of officiating and consistency!
    The Kings just ran Chicago’s goalie – no call on a blatant contact in the crease. Oduya steps up and makes it clear to Williams that running the goalie is a no-no, yet no interference is called, but Oduya is called for slashing – TOTAL BS!

  20. habs-hampton says:

    How is that not Goalie Interference on Williams??? and Oduya pulls a Ryan White.

    • habs-hampton says:

      I’m not defending Schenn, but if he gets a call from Shanny, then Moen can expect one as well. That said, the officiating keeps getting worse. Williams runs the Hawks goalie today with a minute left and the Kings end up with a PP. The Prust “embellishment” call last night was a joke. It just goes on and on and on….

  21. frontenac1 says:

    Gally will be fine. He’s a tough bugger but for God”s sake put Prust out there with him when he comes back and not DD.

  22. frontenac1 says:

    @Santo. Goes hand in hand Amigo.Keep that Mojo going.

  23. frontenac1 says:

    At the Saloon with my buddy the Hawks fan watching the game and we have decided that a Habs /Hawks Stanley Cup Final would be in the best interest of both Clubs,the League and Humanity.

  24. frankcasting says:

    Hope Gallagher will recover quickly, but it’s time for the big boys to step up – Cole, Patch, Lars, even Prust, 4 (!) goals between them after 14 games, it’s amazing we’re 9-4-1 despite that.

    Gotta say, when NBC hockey coverage eclipses that of CBC, it’s a sad day, and that day is here, probably has been for a while.

    Thank God for RDS.

    Loving the Habs since 1965

  25. otter649 says:

    Watching The NBC broadcast with Milbury & crew from NY Central Park & Milbury wishing he was wearing gloves like the two others as he trying to keep his hands warm to no avail – Found it rather humourous……

  26. HabinBurlington says:

    Chicago continues to look good this year, while L.A. also continues to struggle. Jonathan Quick back to reality?

  27. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …this will be Brendan Gallagher’s biggest challenge in the NHL …staying healthy

    …His style of play going to the dirty areas, the front of the net, and His inherent feistiness will mean a lot of push-back from much bigger and meaner men

    …I hope He learns techniques to protect Himself, because He is exactly what We have all been feeling what is missing on Our Team

    • Mike Bone says:

      This is where it’s valuable to have a team captain who’s scored a lot of goals in the NHL while standing three applies tall. Gionta needs to have a sit down with the kid and give him some tips on how to survive the big meanies of the game.

    • habstrinifan says:

      You are right. I remember writing, long time ago when he was drafted, that he would be more durable than his size may indicate because of his barrel-chest physique, which runs in the family.

      I stand by that. Concussions though are anoher issue. Especially when he is that ‘short’, and plays that way… his head would be the contact point where a taller player shoulders would be.

      We need him… for many many more years.

  28. JoaquindaPark says:

    The same game penalizes for snowing the goalie ⛄⛄⛄⛄

  29. Sean Bonjovi says:

    That hit on Gallagher was perfectly legal, sadly.

    • Mattyleg says:

      How?
      He didn’t have the puck.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        And it was a blindside hit.

        • Habfan10912 says:

          And primary contact was the head.

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        • Sean Bonjovi says:

          I agree with both of you, but I don’t think it matters to the NHL if he had the puck, or if he got hit in the numbers. I think the league’s official position is that Schenn made the kind of good, tough play they like to see and he shouldn’t be penalized for it.

          • HabinBurlington says:

            One would think that the leagues official position would match their official rulebook. I don’t think this fits in their official good play criteria, but rather in their official we don’t give a flying fadoo category as we think it helps sell the game. It also falls into Hockey Canada’s stupid criteria of finish your check, also known as, how to slow down an opponent who is faster or better than you.

          • Habtastic says:

            Whether it’s rampant or not is irrelevant. It was boarding, possibly intent to injure, roughing, many things. That was not a good hit by what the NHL calls its standards. (Which are, of course, incredibly consistent.) I wonder if Schenn has tweeted to Gally, since apparently that’s the way to intimately convey an apology. (See: Cooke, Matt.) The whole concussions thing, and trying to minimize them is becoming the biggest joke to ever befall professional sports safety vigilance. More attention drawn to it: Yes. Steps taken to get rid of it: Hellz no. Schenn should never have made that hit. Not like that. Gally’s head was consistently so low (mostly due to height), Schenn should know better that to hit a guy like that. Disgusting.

            ————–
            The Drive for 25

          • boing007 says:

            BS. It could have been called interference or obstruction as well.

            Richard R
            Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

        • boing007 says:

          And a late hit.

          Richard R
          Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  30. Mattyleg says:

    Just Tweeted this:
    “@NHLShanahan The NHL should look closely at every hit that causes a concussion if you are serious about protecting players @BGALLY17″

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • HabinBurlington says:

      While I don’t like the hit, that is a typical acceptable hit in todays NHL. Our team may not make these hits as often, but we do make them. Until the NHL finally redefines that contact is only acceptable as a means to seperate the player from puck (which ironically is how it is written in the rules I believe) nothing will be done about hits such as this.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        What I don’t understand is that they now call interference when a d-man blocks the puck carrier if the puck has gone past. If that is interference then what Schenn did is also illegal.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Great question Paul, another of the unanswered questions to the NHL and how they determine what parts of the rulebook they choose to enforce.

        • Danno says:

          I am still confused how they called interference (Coburn) and embellishment (Prust) on the same play last night. It’s either one or the other, no?

          ________________________________________

          “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

          • Habtastic says:

            Worst embellishment call I’ve ever seen. The one of Gally was pretty bad when he got corkscrewed. It’s like the refs don’t understand physics. Diving happens, but not in those two instances. The Prust one was just ridiculous.

            ————–
            The Drive for 25

    • 123456 says:

      i hope gally did not really tweet that

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      I just tweeted this:
      “@BlondSouthAfricanChicFromLethalWeapon2 Tweet me back if you want to come over to my place later tonight.”

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Marty. That probably went into the “whiney Hab fan” folder where all our letters, calls, emails from the Chara incident went. Otherwise known as the trash.

  31. Ian Cobb says:

    Gallagher, should stay out for a couple games at least.
    Further damage is caused when the head is contacted for the second time. The calcium has to be flushed from each brain cell through rest.
    Calcium does solidifies on second contact, killing neurons that have taken on calcium after the first concussion.

  32. Marc10 says:

    Classic hit to the head of a player in a vulnerable position. The League won’t review it though. His name isn’t Crosby. If they did, they’d talk about how Gally’s body position changed and how Schenn couldn’t be blamed… Bla, bla…

    A guy like Stephane Quintal should be embarrassed to work alongside cretins like Campbell and sell-outs line Shanasham. I guarantee there will be a guy seriously hurt on their watch.

  33. Propwash says:

    Oof… Seabrook just became a soprano. Took a slapper in the junk.

    ____________________
    DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

  34. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    I said this 2 weeks ago when Boone hinted at
    some euphoric idea to ‘upgrade’ the kids with
    an “Eller” calibre over the talented protector grinder PRUST.

    I QUICKLY responded with taking PRUST away from the kids and their careers will be over within 72hrs… FACT.

    SCHEN would not have done what he did if he knew that
    PRUST would come knocking at his head.

    THERRIEN is to blame 100% for this injury.

    and BOoon etc…should be writing of their momentary idiocy…


    The N.A.G. effect remains the only path to success…
    In PRUST we TRUST

  35. Mr. Biter says:

    I actually find some of the posters wanting retribution for the hit on B Gally (head first into the boards , concussion) are the same ones including the great Boone who when White jumped a Panther player and administered retribution for the same type of hit (and got 7 min in penalties) on one of the Hab d- men and was roundly critized for defending his team mates and not thinking. Can’t have it both ways.

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

    • habs-hampton says:

      Does anyone think the 2 minute instigator penalty that we would get would be a good idea, considering how well we protect 2 goals leads in the 3rd period? If you wait until there’s only a minute left, and start a fight in the last 5 minutes, its an automatic 1 game suspension (I think). Someone can always get Schenn later.

      • Mr. Biter says:

        That’s why I posted it. We can’t be screaming for retribution (which I think is warrented) and when it is administered we can’t blame the adminisrtator if he get’s the extra 2 minutes. I realize what your saying about 2 goal or 3 goal leads being blown. Suprised that Prust did not go after Schen in last minute of game or was he kept off the ice?

        Mr. Biter
        No Guts No Glory

        • kempie says:

          I think everybody agrees that White’s heart is in the right place and that his intentions are good. He just needs to pick his spots a lot better. Don’t waste an instigator offence on a nothing play. Last night, in my opinion, would have been the right time, right place. He just has to learn that he can’t go around doing that every game.

        • habs-hampton says:

          That’s what’s wrong with the NHL. If Prust starts a fight he gets a suspension. when Lucic sucker-punched Hedman of TB with 30 seconds left in a blowout in the 2011 playoffs, he got a 10 minute misconduct.

    • commandant says:

      I never minded White defending Gorges in the Florida game.

      I did mind when White when after Ott in the Buffalo game after ott hit him. That was selfish to me. If you get hit, and you are not hurt… take a number and get that player at a more opportune time.

      Go Habs Go!
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      • Mr. Biter says:

        Not to disagree about the Orr thing and I agree about taking a number , but before Orr went after White he worked Gionta over on the same shift With of course no penalty to Orr for that either.

        Mr. Biter
        No Guts No Glory

  36. Ian Cobb says:

    Where we place in a 30 team league, compared to last week.

    Points—-—19, We are in 5th place.. Last week 13, for 11th place.

    Goals For–40, We are in 10th place.. Last week 31, for12th place.

    G. Against-34, We are in 8th place.. Last week 30, for 13th place.

    In just 1 month of hockey, we have come from the bottom of the heap last year to a 5th place hockey club. Can we keep this going?

    • commandant says:

      You’d be better off looking at point percentage, rather than points to find our true place in the standings.

      We may be ahead of the Bruins by 1 point right now, but they have the superior point percentage (And 2 games in hand) which will hurt us in the long run. We are not ahead of them yet, in my books anyway. I’d rather have their record at this point.

      All that said, still a great start for the Habs.

      Go Habs Go!
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  37. SuperHabFan says:

    Blackhawks are just ridiculous to watch. So good this year.

  38. habs-hampton says:

    With Gally out, this may not be the time, but maybe Cole should be a healthy scratch. Some think he’s out of shape, but his decisions on the ice are at a beer league level. He is hurting this team right now. I’m not sure what happened to him, but he’s going to start costing us games. I can’t believe MT is sticking with him.

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      +1, but I think the reason is his heart is out of it. He said he was considering retirement after this season. I don’t believe him when he said his mind has changed after playing again. I wouldn’t be shocked if he plays the rest of the season like this and retires in July. I guess guys like Eller and White are being held accountable for the way they play.

      • Habfan10912 says:

        I hope you’re wrong about Cole Trisomy. After the Leaf debacle Cole is getting credit for pulling the group together. That doesn’t sound like a player who doesn’t care anymore. I hope its just a conditioning thing which will get rectified shortly. At least I hope so.

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    • HabinBurlington says:

      I posted a link from TSN earlier today, after the Leafs loss, Cole gathered the troops and regathered them. He was dealing with an injury throughout most of the lockout and yes he is over 30 years old, and yes he made a comment which he later regretted.

      He is also a slow starter historically. I wish he had played better till now, but to question his heart or attitude seems wrong to me. Go to TSN and read the article where Gorges comments on Cole got the guys together and regrouped.

      I think I will pass on making him a healthy scratch at this point.

      Intangibles

      • habs-hampton says:

        I’m not questioning his heart, but something is wrong. I think he’s playing worse every game.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Stubbs wrote about Cole battling an injury he suffered during the summer, I believe he somehow injured himself in training for the upcoming season. I suspect it really slowed down his training, add to the fact he was quite involved in the lockout and i would not be surprised if his conditioning is a bit off. Having said all that, i think the last few games he has started to look better.

          He is also a natural leader in my opinion, and given our alternatives, i would rather he continue to play. I am not saying I am right, just rather my observations and thoughts.

          I also realize you weren’t questioning his heart, perhaps I directed that more at Trisomy and should have said so.

  39. Ice Storm says:

    Agh that’s no Pucks thrown… He’s good but no Rock Star….

  40. Ice Storm says:

    BGally did not return after the hit…
    No picks thrown last night as he was also the First Star….

  41. otter649 says:

    Looks like the Chicago Anthem Singer got a Stanley Cup Ring – Pretty big rock on his left hand……

  42. Timo says:

    I can recall a lot of instances when a Habs player got sidelined due to a dirty or a borderline hit by an opponent? Can someone name any recent hits (dirty or otherwise) by the Habs that resulted in an injury?

  43. B says:

    Plekanec is currently tied for 10th in the league in goals.

    –Go Habs Go!–

  44. Led says:

    Watching NBC I’m reminded of how much I like Gord Miller calling a game. He’s interesting, enthusiastic, funny, relevant and seems unbiased. Also his voice has that familiarity to it. Unlike an older familiar voice, Gord actually sees what is happening on the ice.

  45. OMG says:

    With Gallagher out my choice now for lines if Pacioretty can play would be:

    Pacioretty Plekanec Gionta
    Prust DD Cole
    Bourque Galchenyuk Dumont
    Moen Eller Armstrong/White

  46. Rightwing says:

    I’d like to hear more and in depth about this baseball-hockey game they played.

    Playing tennis with a hockey stick has been a fantastic tool for myself [sic: hockey grammar] for getting the skill to not only hit the puck out of the air, but block it, even put it down on the ice in position to then gain possession of it.

    It’s amazing to me that tennis hockey is not part of everyone’s regime. A little of that made the difference with Rene Bourque the other night.

    • 123456 says:

      i have used hockey baseball wityh my mite team. basically one guy bats by shooting the puck from one corner anywhere in the rink. he must skate around the bases, which are the four faceoff dots on the same aide of the ice. if he makes it he gets a home run. the player is out if hte defensive team can get the puck an dmake three passes and then score before the batter gets around the bases. the kids love it.

  47. jedimyrmidon says:

    Crosby-Malkin-Neal line is crazy – tic-tac-toe passing through crowded areas to get a good shot off. And then, Miller just absolutely robbed them. It was so ridiculous, they were all laughing about it after.

  48. HabFanSince72 says:

    No one hates concussions and dirty play more than me.

    But I have to say it doesn’t look like Schenn was dirty on that hit. Negligent at worst.

    It was a borderline hit for sure, but came in the heat of the action and Schenn kind of let up at the last moment.

    In any case the worrisome thing is that Gallagher could suffer a concussion after a fairly mild hit.

    On the other hand, 5 years ago that probably doesn’t get called a concussion.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Well …. looking at it again I guess it was dirty.

    • Steve C. says:

      This will sound weird to some, but not wearing a full cage means you’re exposing your face, which means that smashing your face against the glass when getting hit, however softly, hurts a whole lot more than if the player receiving a hit is wearing a full cage…that is unless he didn’t hit his face against the glass. Result is unfortunate either way.

  49. Steve C. says:

    I am reading a lot of outcry for Brendan Gallagher’s sake, and although it was a dangerous hit that was really difficult to watch, I cannot imagine that the Canadiens are the only team that has to face this. If the Canadiens players are targets, it’s because they look vulnerable and are small, not simply because it’s every other team’s goal to kill the Canadiens. One of the ways to defend against Montreal’s skill and speed is to hit them, such as L.Schenn on Gallagher. Illegal hits such as his aren’t right, but…my point is that Montreal players aren’t the sole targets.

  50. markoni says:

    Hey Folks.
    I’m spending the next few months in Vancouver. Does anyone know of a little Habs haven anywhere or maybe just a good hockey pub (Main Street Area preferred)? You would swear there was only one team in this league here.

    m

    • MasterHab says:

      Hi Markoni,

      Well I’m an ex-pat Montrealer who has lived in and around Vancouver for 20 years now. Only recently did I find a Habs-friendly watering hole. Not sure, but I suspect the owners are Habs fans because the bar, in addition to the “obligatory” Canucks crap, is also festooned with a few Habs banners. I was there a couple of weeks ago to watch the Habs game…on RDS with the sound ON!

      It’s called The Sin Bin and it’s just West of Main Street immediately south of False Creek (just below the downtown core)

      http://www.thesinbin.ca/2013/01/montreal-canadiens-116/

      Enjoy. I may see you there.

  51. HabFanSince72 says:

    Funny bit on AC last night. Dennis Gauthier was saying how these Flyers remind him of the 2006-07 team on which he played and which finished last.

    He said one of their problems in 07 is they had a lot of bad defencemen. Big but slow. He then listed them and included himself.

  52. Strummer says:

    Why stop at getting a heavyweight for roster?
    I understand there’s a condo by the river in Montreal where guys reside that can solve the problem on a more permenent basis

    ______________________________________________________
    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  53. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Attention Ryan White: Don’t screw up your 2nd chance. This team needs you.

  54. HardHabits says:

    Whenever the puck goes to a player along the boards and that player attempts to play the puck he is a fair target. Players always crash and bang fighting to get to a puck without ever actually touching it. Yes the hit was on the numbers and even looked like a borderline boarding call. The reality is Schenn is much bigger than Gallagher, never left his feet, hit him with the body and clearly without full force. The reason Gallagher got hurt was due to his being awkwardly positioned which made him vulnerable.

    Gallagher has to play smarter. I remember Koivu playing like that, leading the scoring race at the time, then pop went the knee. I’d hate to see that happen to Gallagher. Gallagher needs to develop fear, or at the very least tone down the recklessness. It’s a definite balancing act as one wouldn’t want to see him give up his enthusiasm for going to the dirty areas either.

    Could Schenn have been given 5 minutes for boarding? Yes! But there have been more questionable calls made in the past. Does it deserve a review from the league or a suspension? No!

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      Complete and utter bullshit.

    • ed says:

      do you feel better now?

      Gallagher was engaged, legally and responsibly, with another Flyer, battling for the puck.

      Schenn came in as the 3rd man in the scrum, from behind, with Gallagher completely exposed.

      The only awkwardness Gallagher showed was having his back to Schenn because Shenn was not in the original play.

      That’s not a hockey play. Actually, I guess it is, in the NHL.

    • Phil C says:

      Good post, it is a balancing act, but he has a perfect role model in Gionta who rarely puts himself in a vulnerable position despite going to the dirty areas all the time. Gallagher can’t expect the refs to keep him in the NHL.

      • Mr. Biter says:

        Things like this come with experience and B Gally will learn but unfortunatly it’s on the job training. Scheen also in my opinion cheap shooted another Hab later in the period. If we play the flyers should retribution be administered early in the game since nothing was done last night. I did see the original hit on the top corner of the screen and it did look like Scheen could have really laced Gally but did not. I had to leave after the hit but did Gally return to the ice after the hit as he played almost 13 minutes (with 3 hits)

        Mr. Biter
        No Guts No Glory

    • Danno says:

      I respectfully disagree. It was a dirty hit from behind. Gallagher was nowhere near the puck. Schenn was late coming in. If you watch the video carefully he creams Gally’s head against the glass and boards as he goes down to the ice.

      ________________________________________

      “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      HH, this looks like a good attempt to analyse the play without the fan hat on. And regrettably I think you’ve pretty much articulated how the league would view it. For perspective, the obvious comparison is Chara’s hit on Pacioretty — no suspension.

    • New says:

      There seems to be a lot of screaming for suspensions now. Most times it isn’t warranted but the screams are pretty loud. There seems to be a lot of embellishment calls this year. Frankly I haven’t seen one that I wouldn’t say was not embellishment. Some pretty big men being manhandled and collapsing in agony while putting themselves in bad positions. If you’re committed and realize you’re going to take two you might as well make sure the guy remembers why.

    • CanadienBoy says:

      He just need to move out of the way faster

  55. Habfan10912 says:

    For those that may have missed the unpenaltized illegal high hit from behind on Gallagher last night here is a video clip.
    Edit: sorry. Didn’t see the video above.
    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/habs-brendan-gallagher-concussed-being-hit-behind-flyers-185257886–nhl.html

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  56. Stuck_in_To. says:

    It might help just a wee bit if the NHL had a policy of reviewing every body contact play that resulted in a concussion. Especially, if they actually reviewed the plays and applied some harsh guidelines.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Nyc brought that up below. I think its a terrific idea. Now if we could find some impartial people to do the discipline review. Sigh.

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      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Impartial people, yes. Anyone but the league. And don’t just suspend the player, fine the owner — massively. That might get their attention.

      • Stuck_in_To. says:

        Apologies to NYC for stealing his idea.

        Bias is always going to be a problem, however, clear and detailed rules are start though everyone becomes a lawyer when applying or interpreting them.

  57. Dunboyne Mike says:

    The NHL is a business, and Bettman, Campbell and Shanahan and the owners are no more or less avaricious, inhumane industrialists than those in any other business in the last 250 years. Exact same men made small kids work 14-hour shifts in coalmines in England in the 19th century.

    All principles are sacrificed in the interests of the one ultimate concern, profit. Left unchecked, that’s the way it goes. Anyone here who thinks or even hopes that player safety will ever become more important to the NHL than profit is deluded. With Crosby, the league comfortably survived its poster-boy’s potentially career-ending concussion. As far as the league is concerned, no player safety reform beyond window-dressing need ever interfere with the drive for profit. Significant player safety reform will NEVER come from within the NHL.

    Where could it come from? I don’t know. In 19th century England, a combination of public information, subsequent public outcry and political expediency eventually led to important reforms. There was a tension between the industry and the public, and a compromise was reached. Does anyone see that happening in hockey?

    Personally, I can’t even really blame Schenn — it seemed very close to being a legitimate hit, acceptable within hockey culture as currently defined. But I felt sick seeing that beautiful kid go down — not just talented, but so enthusiastic, so obviously having the time of his life, living the dream. I felt sick.

    • habsnyc says:

      Maybe if Gallagher had the puck or if the puck was between his feet. But the puck already in the Flyers’ possession and headed up ice when Gallagher was hit. Hitting an opposing player when your team has the puck is a penalty. The hit was late, the hit was from behind, the principle point of contact was an elbow to the head resulting in Gallagher’s face hitting the glass. Pretty much every aspect of the play was illegal.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Yes, NYC, it’s good analysis. However, you could also argue that the puck being in the Flyers’ possession and the hit are very nearly simultaneous. You could also argue that there’s no contact between elbow and head. If you’re the league and you don’t want a suspension, the video evidence (that you and I have at least) would support that case.

        And then think of how far away the puck was when Chara hit Pacioretty. No suspension.

        Just to be clear, I’m not saying Schenn’s hit was clean. I’m saying it could be legitimate within hockey culture as currently defined. I wish hockey culture were much differently defined.

        Cheers

        • athanor says:

          Different year, different rules regarding the Chara hit.
          This year, that hit, even without an injury, could well have been called as interference at least.

  58. OMG says:

    It’s typical of the NHL today. When a team can’t beat you on the scoreboard. They’ll beat you in other ways. No respect.

  59. jrshabs1 says:

    Last week Gallagher had to fight because nobody else wanted to and this week he gets his bell rung and nobody even looked funny at Schenn the rest of the night. Somebody please give me the we don’t need a legit heavyweight on this team argument. The league has proven many, many times over that they are willing to do nothing in regards to very questionable conduct committed to the Habs. An on ice policeman is the only answer.

    Go Habs Go!!

    • habsnyc says:

      It was a close game and Montreal did not want to let the Flyers back in it by taking a penalty. There will be a time and a place for retribution.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

      • jrshabs1 says:

        Close game is no excuse for the games 1st star to be knocked out with a check from behind in the 1st 5mins of the 3rd period. Once this kind of stuff starts happening it’s not going to stop..every team will take liberties with the Habs once the games get serious. The Habs need a big physical answer or 1/2 their line up will be out with injury.

        Go Habs Go!!

        • Strummer says:

          Retribution on ice after an incident like this solves nothing.
          Chris Neil went after Matt Cooke after Karlsson was hurt and it made no difference.

          ______________________________________________________
          “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

          • 4loorplay says:

            But lets say…Danny brier or a-other player got concussed in the same way.

            Nirvana is earned…

        • Mr. Biter says:

          But if White gives retribution it’s all his fault if we lose according to the great Boone.

          Mr. Biter
          No Guts No Glory

  60. habsnyc says:

    It seems obvious to me that every hit that results in a concussion should require league review. When a player gets concussed and the puck was not within their reach when the hit occurs, there should be an automatic suspension.

    Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

  61. 4loorplay says:

    Nirvana is earned…Skating will do

  62. 4loorplay says:

    Hmmmm can someone teach Mike tyson to play hockey and then we can draft him for times like this.

    Nirvana is earned…

    • Danno says:

      I want GSP to put on a pair of skates and a sweater with the CH on it

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      “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  63. Hoegaarden says:

    Monsieur Bergevin,
    See what happens when you don’t protect your assets. Sooner or later the message has to register.
    May I suggest you read D.Irvin’s “The HABS 1940-80″ on how Sam Pollock went about taking care of his team. Read the section about the early 70s and especially the comments by B.Clarke on how they could not intimidate the Habs.

  64. B says:

    Checking the boxes, I see Stortini fought Matt Kassian during last night’s Bulldogs win over Houston. I wonder who won that scrap? Anyone see the game? I also noticed Paul Mara was playing for Houston.

    –Go Habs Go!–

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Check out Habfabs post earlier today as he has a link to the highlights which include the fight. Not a lot of punches landed but Stortini was the winner. The guy can’t play though.

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      • B says:

        Thanks, I will try to find that post with the link. It seems there are good reasons why neither of them are in the NHL right now. I was curious as many here posted recently about plucking Kassian off waivers, but he doesn’t seem any more of an NHLer than Stortini.

        –Go Habs Go!–

  65. Stevie.Ray says:

    One of Brady Vail’s teammates is an interesting potential draft pick. Kerby Rychel is projected to go late first round – early second. 6’1″, 200 lbs. C.
    32g, 34a in 54 games

    “One of the purest OHL goal scorers eligible for the 2013 NHL Draft, Kerby Rychel has been nothing but extraordinary over the last two years. For someone who scored only seven goals as a rookie, Rychel has surely come alive since being in a Windsor Spitfires uniform. He scored 41 goals in his second OHL season in 2011-12 and the only reason why he was not drafted was because of his birthday being in October 1994. He has been Mr. Everything for the Spitfires, playing in all situations and providing significant leadership on and off the ice. With Windsor’s veteran corps from the last two seasons reasonably dispatched, it is good to know that Rychel will be counted upon to provide guidance to younger players on the team, including Joshua Ho-Sang, Adam Bateman, Ryan Verbeek and Sam Studnicka. He is a dynamic skater and he has also shown that he can be a physical force, just like his father Warren before him. He also has incredible versatility and adaptability to any situation. Rychel will be a great addition to any team with a young forward group as he could sure come in and provide much needed assistance.”

  66. Danno says:

    I am so sick of skilled players being mugged by POS thugs on ice.

    Hoping very much young Gallagher has a full and speedy recovery but takes all the time needed to get well and be 100% on his return.

    ________________________________________

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Its a league wide problem that I’m afraid won’t get solved until the courts intervene or God forbid someone is killed. The blame is shared by all. The league for not throwing dangerous thugs such as Cooke out of the game and the players for their lack of respect for other players.

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  67. Habfan10912 says:

    PK has a sore throat. Gallagher feeling much better. Max Pac should play. News could have been much worse.

    http://www.cjad.com/Blog/HabsNews/blogentry.aspx?BlogEntryID=10505159
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  68. 24 Cups says:

    Ed – I tend to be a bit more cautious when it comes to trying to predict the future for Montreal’s prospects. I let the law of averages apply. I’ll be happy if one out of three eventually makes it as full time, productive Habs.

    I’ve been burned too many times when in the past Higgins and Komisarek would fight it out for the captaincy or the Habs had a rookie defensive core that would last a decade (only Weber remains from that group!)

    • HardHabits says:

      If they all pan out Habs are sitting pretty to either skate a cost effective team thus allowing a truly elite UFA signing or two, or they can trade assets to build an even stronger roster… or they can do both!!

      But I agree. No use counting chickens before they hatch. Even hatched they need to be nurtured to maturity.

      Lot’s of eggs in the basket though.

  69. SmartDog says:

    How is it the NHL can talk about protecting players and then let the Flyers get away with hammering guys directly from behind with no call, and no review.

    The NHL is still a piece of SH!T as long as Bettman, Campbell and Jacobs are at the wheel. And THIS is why we need a bruiser. The NHL doesn’t protect our players. If Schenn knew he’d have to take on a John Scott, he’d think twice.

    Related, WTF was Prust? Is Therrien turning into Jacques “beat them with class” Martin?

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    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • ProHabs says:

      John Scott was available over the summer and Montreal could have had him, especially since Bergevin would have known him from their days in Chicago. Instead Montreal spent the money on Armstrong??

    • 24 Cups says:

      You can add Shanahan to your list. He showed promise for about two weeks when he first took over and then was reeled back in by the GMs.

      The league, team management and the NHLPA don’t care enough to really deal with the issue and bring about a long term solution.

      MB needs to come to grips with that truth and act accordingly.

    • habsnyc says:

      The play should be reviewed. The difficulty for me is determining whether the head was targeted or whether the height mismatch and Gallagher’s body position lead to an unintentional consequence. Schenn did not leave his feet. Gallagher never had the puck. The puck was no longer within Gallagher’s reach when the hit occurred. To me, this is a dangerous, late hit from behind where the head was the point of contact.

      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

      • SmartDog says:

        Regardless of height etc. he hit him in the numbers. Back fully turned, and as you say the play was over. Ridiculous.

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        Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • kempie says:

      I don’t know about anybody else, but I know when I see a play like this and one of our guys gets injured, I’ve come to expect not even a 2 minute boarding call, let alone a suspension or review. It’s become the norm. There was a time when I’d be pretty upset about some of the crap we saw last night, but it just resulted in me being pissed off all the time. I’ve learned to accept that nothing will ever happen to legitimately protect players’ safety, especially when the player in question is wearing our colours. Pretty sad state of affairs. NHL is a joke that grows bigger and less funny every day.

    • The Jackal says:

      Amen, Dog. The NHL is a joke in many aspects of player safety and consistency.
      Think of this: high sticks are always a penalty regardless of intent. Yet dangerous plays, which is parent group of high-sticking, do not get called unless there was clear intent! What BS is that!?
      If the rationale behind high-sticking being called automatically is to protect players, then dangerous plays such as Chara’s ugly “hockey play” and Cooke’s bad attempt to pin should go punished, if only to send the message to players to be mindful about their colleagues’ safety.

      Most importantly though, the whole concussion/head injuries/brain damage file has once again been shelved to collect dust.
      Crosby is back, there haven’t been any more suicides, and they think a crappy rule will change things. What a joke! Headshots and concussions remain a problem that the league has not addressed properly, just like their crap reffing and inconsistent job in sending a message that dangerous plays should not be tolerated.

      Fakkkkk – rant over.

  70. 24 Cups says:

    The Gallagher injury is the first real blow of the season for the Habs. Another example of a careless, thoughtless play in today’s vigilante themed NHL.

    I guess White will be the replacement although Leblanc might be a better choice. I wonder what input the Hamilton coaches might have on Leblanc’s play right now.

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      When you hit someone from behind (especially when the puck is gone) it´s not a careless play. It´s a deliberate attempt to injure someone.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Agreed. I wasn’t sure how to word it which is why I threw in the term vigilante. I also refer to these plays as headhunting.

        Regardless of terms, we’re really not just talking about goons in this discussion. Players of all levels of ability are partaking in the same kind of reckless behaviour.

        It’s subconsciously accepted by managment and players alike.

        • The Jackal says:

          That’s one aspect of hockey that needs to change – the whole beat em up if you can’t beat with goals culture. The game is too fast and the players are too fit to just run around hitting players from behind, injuries will obviously occur like that, and not minor ones.

          I love the physical aspect of hockey, big clean hits are always great to see. It’s just the dirty/intimidation plays that must go. Hitting a guy from behind or blindsiding someone is just irresponsible and is a way to end a career. Hits from behind, to the head, and to players in a clearly vulnerable position should not be allowed, period.

  71. MrNax says:

    Bad new for Gally. Anyone know if the play is even being reviewed? I haven’t heard anything but it seems like a classic “guy in a defenseless position being hit from behind into the boards” type of play…

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      Penalty should have been called on the play, but I think that’s the extent of it. No word has been made about a review, which at this point, since they play tomorrow, means no sup. discipline.

  72. commandant says:

    Unfortunate that Gallagher has a concussion. I figure he’ll be out for a while as he’s had concussion issues before. Will need to make sure he takes care of it properly.

    Go Habs Go!
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  73. Habfan10912 says:

    Mayer reassigned to Dogs.

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    • MrNax says:

      Bad new for Gally. Anyone know if the play is even being reviewed? I haven’t heard anything but it seems like a classic “guy in a defenseless position being hit from behind into the boards” type of play…

  74. Stevie.Ray says:

    Day to day

  75. Stevie.Ray says:

    He finished the game last night, and was on the ice at practice this morning. He is basically Ivan Drago, and it’ll take more than Giroux to knock him down for long

  76. 24 Cups says:

    They need to sit him down long term. Better to err on the side of caution.

  77. Danno says:

    He absolutely smashed the kid from behind and crushed his face/head into the glass and boards.

    ________________________________________

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  78. The Jackal says:

    Schenn is basically another over-rated prospect that was rushed and basically ruined by the Leafs, who is now told to play “Flyers” hockey and intimidate people… what a joke. What kind of hockey is that? Try scoring if you’re losing the game, not injuring.

  79. Danno says:

    He skated today in Brossard

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    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  80. Danno says:

    No I don’t. I got the info from update on Twitter from the club’s account.

    ________________________________________

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  81. Habfan10912 says:

    Agree. Seems the league is more focused on a hand in a faceoff call then players being hit from behind.

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  82. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Well you’re probably right. I guess I hesitate to condemn Schenn because it happened at speed. What I’m really saying is that I am more sickened by the culture and the greed behind it than with the guy doing what the culture demands and allows him. And you’re also probably right that we can’t afford to wait for the league to be suddenly enlightened regarding player safety (will never happen) and so we are forced to comply with the culture and hope that Bergevin will find another Laraque whose pay-check will be based on his ability to inflict pain and injury on other players.

    Come on, kids. Let’s watch the game….

  83. Phil C says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN-rkwv85zM

    Watching the video, White over reacted, the hit was nowhere near the knees. Ott is a weasel, but not because of this hit.

  84. Willy the bum says:

    I would up Eller on 2nd, so…:

    Bourque Plekanec Gionta
    Pacioretty DD Eller
    Prust Galchenyuk Cole
    Moen White Armstrong

  85. otter649 says:

    Tell that to The Boston Bruins (Stanley CupWinner) except for a few players is mainly Canadian…..

  86. saku1133 says:

    They won because of Thomas, has little to do about being mainly Canadian. You guys are the proudest country I know, for what..really, and don’t take this the wrong way, I love your game, but c’mon now, the best players used to be canadien…not anymore. You did guys did give us RUSH, And I will always be thankful for that!!

  87. Trisomy 21 says:

    Flyers I think have the least number of Americans on the team of all NHL teams

  88. Mr. Biter says:

    Play the vidio back more and you see Ott going after Gionta.

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

  89. Trisomy 21 says:

    I can’t hear you with the 2010 Olympic gold medals in hockey ringing in my ears.

    Besides my funny, this wasn’t about who has the best players, an example was being made that not all American teams pass over Canadians for American born players.

    Counter example – look at the Habs and Leafs, they must be near the top for American players?

  90. saku1133 says:

    Keep hanging on to that one.

  91. saku1133 says:

    As a great American once said, the times, they are a changing

  92. Trisomy 21 says:

    Hanging on? The Olympics only come around every 4 years. I could understand that if I was hanging on to the one in 2002, but I didn’t even mention the gold medal we won in 2002. Salt Lake.. I didn’t mention the fact Canada won that one too…

    Now saying a team won the Stanley Cup because of one player, that’s a reach.

  93. saku1133 says:

    Since 1960 each country has won two golds. That is embarrassing for your country…isn’t it?

  94. Trisomy 21 says:

    Not really, the best Canadians in the world couldn’t play in the Olympics. Remember, no pros in the Olympics? Now how many countries have won 2 golds in this century?

  95. Habfan10912 says:

    With primary contact to the head.

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  96. Habs_4_ever says:

    To Habs fans and anyone with half a brain that’s what it is, but to the NHL it’s just “a hockey play”.

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    “Leave the gun, take the cannoli.”

  97. habs03 says:

    Disagree, White has been taking stupid penalties, he would start fighting with a guy before the other guy takes his gloves off. He did it once vs the Panthers, and MT just talked to him and gave him a pass, then he cost us the first game vs the Sens, and cost us a point vs the Sabres.

    As for Eller, issue is where does Eller play? Who does he replaces, its just a numbers game by Eller being on the 4th line, and I actually liked that MT actaully gives him some PP time with the Gally’s to somewhat try to make up for him.

    But I agree on Subban, should be getting more minutes.

  98. jols101 says:

    Maybe New Jersey will want to unite the brothers and will take Brian in a trade. His 5 million cap hit has to go, especially since Gally has made him a redundant player. Time to close the chapter on the BG/PG fiasco.

    Give the ‘C’ to the true leader of the team – Josh Gorges.

  99. Gallagher is doing really great, and I’ve got high hopes, but with just 13 NHL games under his belt, he hasn’t proven much yet at the NHL level. It may well be that Gallagher can be a consistent offensive threat throughout an entire season, and that he can handle the physical rigors of being a smaller guy in a big man’s league, but he hasn’t had an opportunity to demonstrate either of those things yet.

    Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”

  100. kholdstare says:

    It is going to take years for the BG/PG chapter to be closed. Im actually glad we had them, otherwise we wouldnt have Chucky.

  101. Cal says:

    LOL! Gally making Gio redundant? Maybe when he’s actually played a season or two, but a concussion this early on is not good.

  102. Chrisadiens says:

    I prefer to look at it this way. 3 points from 1st. :)

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

  103. Hobie Hansen says:

    @Habsolutely

    Perfect example right there! Come cheer for the Habs and don’t hate! It feels great! Sounds like you are hoping for failure?


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