Gallagher proving again that size isn’t everything

If you think Canadiens rookie Brendan Gallagher is small now, you should have seen him in bantam hockey.

Gallagher was only 5-foot-3 in 2007 when the Vancouver Giants selected him in the ninth round of the Western Hockey League draft. His father, Ian, told The Gazette’s Brenda Branswell he was probably the smallest player in the draft.

Gallagher is now all grown up – at 5-foot-9 and 178 pounds – and the 20-year-old has delighted Habs fans with his tenacious style of play and drive to the net after being a fifth-round pick in the 2010 NHL entry draft. In 19 games, Gallagher has 6-7-13 totals and is tied with Brandon Prust for the team lead in plus/minus at plus-10.

“The thing with Brendan, he’s played the same way at every level,” Don Hay, coach of the Vancouver Giants, the major-junior team that Gallagher played with for four years, told The Gazette’s Branswell.

“When he was a peewee, he played the same way and then people would say: ‘Well, he can’t do that in bantam,’ and then ‘he won’t be able to do that in midget,’ and then ‘I don’t think he can do that in juniors and then ‘can he do it in the NHL?’

“He’s just proved people wrong all the time.”

Gallagher and the Canadiens are back in action Thursday night when they visit the Carolina Hurricanes (7 p.m., RDS, TSN-HABS, TSN 690 Radio). Canadiens coach Michel Therrien skipped Thursday’s morning skate due to an intestine infection, but is expected to be behind the bench for the game.

(Photo by Richard Wolowicz/Getty Images)

Habs rookie Gallagher proves size isn’t everything, by Brenda Branswell

Price shows some emotion during optional workout, by Pat Hickey

Hurricanes a major surprise this season, by Pat Hickey

Game Preview: Canadiens vs. Hurricanes

Bell makes proposal to save TSN 690, by Steve Faguy of The Gazette

NHL players blind to eye injuries, by Cam Cole of Postmedia News

Legal look: mandatory visors in the NHL, by TSN.ca

Staal eye injury re-ignites visor debate, by Sportsnet.ca

Rangers claim former Hab Hamrlik off waivers, by The Associated Press

 

772 Comments

  1. commandant says:

    As for Matty’s suggestion that no one should be hurt by a rumor about sexual orientation.

    How about the player’s fiancee? Isn’t she hurt by hearing a rumor that the person she is preparing to marry is sleeping with other people?

    Its true, there is nothing wrong with being gay, however the rumor that suggests a player is going to come out of the closet can still be hurtful to his family as it also suggests infidelity.

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    • Kooch7800 says:

      it is like saying people who are being bullied should be ok with it.

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

      • Mattyleg says:

        Whhaaaa…??

        I never said that no-one should be hurt by a rumour.
        Rumours can be hurtful, just that a rumour about someone’s sexuality is not ‘vicious’ by itself.

        There are far, far worse things written on here and elsewhere about players, and I’m sure their family members read those things too.

        Coming out doesn’t necessarily mean infidelity, either. Just a recognition of who you are.

        And Kooch, I don’t see the parallel to being bullied. This is just another stupid rumour, which should be no more insulting than the rumour that so-and-so has given up or whatever.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Kooch7800 says:

          It is rumours like this that I just can’t stand Matty. the reason why I say it is Parallel to being bullied….how many times in high school did you hear about someone being rumored to be gay? I can bet quite a few times. P
          No one should have to answer to these types of rumours but it is human nature.
          I am sure Gorges has thick skin about this but I am also quite sure that deep down he thinks it is just stupid he has to answer to such rumours about his sexual orientation.

          “Keep your stick on the Ice”

          • Mattyleg says:

            He doesn’t have to answer anything.
            He just has to roll his eyes, like with any other rumour.
            But I get your point.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

  2. Steve C. says:

    @Garbo: Any good gathering places for Habs fans out in Vancouver?

  3. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Chris Bourque is on waivers..he’s a pretty solid prospect, no? Wonder where we are on the waiver list

  4. Bill says:

    @100 Habs: Sorry to keep responding this way, I’m on my phone. Anyway, It depends on what stats you use. But if you include bisexual men in the numbers, then you probably only would need 20 people in the dressing room.

  5. habs11s says:

    http://www.tsn.ca/other_sports/story/?id=417571

    Extremely sad story. It’s events like this that make us rethink how goonery and ‘taking runs at people’ (eg. Brown hit on Gorges) can have serious implications and should not be allowed in our game because while it is a game, it can have serious effects on a person’s life when he steps off the ice..

    _____________________________________________________________

    “How would you like a job where when you made a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?” -Jacques Plante

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      People are actually making excuses for a guy that hit another playing from behind who was skating to play the puck…pathetic.

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • Kooch7800 says:

        Did you actually see the hit? Keller was the one who actually initiated the hit. if he would have just went in the corner to get the puck he probably would have been ok.

        the video is below
        http://www.hockeyfights.com/forums/f14/hockey-player-left-paralyzed-after-hit-behind-183521/

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

        • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

          C’mon…he was vulnerable and the other guy did not let up AT ALL. This is ridiculous…I’m not debating the obvious anymore.

          “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

          • Kooch7800 says:

            That is ok to disagree but they both were going in hard and Keller should have kept going. In my opinion Keller put himself in a worse position than if he would have kept going

            Regardless the outcome is sh*tty. If they wanted to change the culture in the NHL hitting from behind would always be called a 5 minute major instead of a 2 min boarding call.

            “Keep your stick on the Ice”

          • 100HABS says:

            There was no malicious intent there, it was a fight for the puck.

            I feel bad for the injured player and his family, but I don’t feel any action should follow on the other player.

    • mdp2011 says:

      I think criminal charges are in order, that’s the only to rid of this type of dangerous play.

      • Kooch7800 says:

        On this hit? It was not a good hit and the outcome was horrible but Keller initiated contact and put himself in a worse position.
        This was almost like a freak accident.

        Hits like Kaletta the other night on Richards, yes, that was just 100% dirty and they were lucky Richards wasn’t seriously injured like this

        “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • 100HABS says:

      Yeah, sad. That’s a full-out fight for the puck, no malicious intent there.

  6. Loonie says:

    Any guesses as to how much under the table cash Chris Pronger pockets every time Ed Snider throws him in a press room and has him tell the World he intends on playing again?

    • shiram says:

      I don’t know, the last interview I saw of Pronger talked about him having constant headaches and having lost his peripheric vision. It sure did not sound like he thinks he is coming back.

      • Loonie says:

        Said today he isn’t giving up on playing. Which means the Flyers are well justified to keep him on LTIR because he doesn’t intend on retiring and subsequently provides them with cap relief for a contract that would take Pronger through age 44.

        But the NHL disallowed the first Kovalchuk deal in New Jersey, probably because they didn’t have a stable ownership situation.

    • mdp2011 says:

      Very ironic that a guy known as one of the dirtiest players in the game, and dished out countless elbows to opponents head has his career ended by a concussion.

  7. Danno says:

    We need to be sensitive to the fact that rumours about someone’s personal life may or may not be true. We need to also be sensitive to the fact that such rumours may not be appreciated by the person involved and could very well be causing them considerable distress.

    ________________________________________

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  8. Bill says:

    @100Habs: any time a straight man uses a locker room in his life he is probably showering and dressing with at least one gay man.

  9. Habsrule1 says:

    Predictions for tonight’s game?
    I saw Price plays very well and allows 1 flukey goal.
    4-1 Habs

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      None for me…last game I predicted a Price shutout…oops

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Mattyleg says:

      I don’t do hockey pools anymore because I got annoyed cheering for other teams, etc.
      But the WORST was taking Carey Price, which I always did. He always got tons of wins, and had good percentages etc. but he NEVER got shutouts. We’d be ahead 4-0, and I’d still be sweating, praying for the shutout, and when he’d let in that one goal, which he always did, I was always pissed off, and it almost felt as though we’d lost.

      So I like your scoreline. I’m with it!!

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        I took Cam Ward instead of Price this year…I’m next to last in my pool..d’oh!

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • The Cat says:

      At a sports forum I go at, everyone is betting Montreal, while MTL may win, it usually isnt a good sign cause Vegas didnt get rich by having the majority being right. 4-1 for Carolina I say.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  10. Kfourn says:

    from @SportsnetSpec: “Head coach Claude Julien will lament Canadiens disrespectful treatment of Blake Geoffrion later today”.

    What’s that all about, am I missing something?

    _______________________________________________________
    Well, he’s kind of had it in for me ever since I accidentally ran over his dog. Actually, replace “accidentally” with “repeatedly” and replace “dog” with “son.”

    “It’s sad when our rookies have no NHL experience before they jump up to the NHL.” – nunacanadien

    • Habsrule1 says:

      I can only assume they’re making fun of Julien, saying he’ll bash the Habs for something else he knows nothing and should mind his business about?

      Not sure though.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • Kfourn says:

        Ahh gotcha, I thought it was a serious post.

        _______________________________________________________
        Well, he’s kind of had it in for me ever since I accidentally ran over his dog. Actually, replace “accidentally” with “repeatedly” and replace “dog” with “son.”

        “It’s sad when our rookies have no NHL experience before they jump up to the NHL.” – nunacanadien

    • Chris1138 says:

      It’s a shot at Julien because the Bruins waived Chris Bourque, Ray Bourque’s son – treating a Bruin legend’s son shabbily some might say. Therefore, being a huge hypocrite, it’s only natural that Julien will find some way to claim the Habs have disrespected Blake. All tongue in cheek of course.

      –| Brad Marchand | Starley Cup Chanpiar 2011 |–

      • Habsrule1 says:

        Aha…much better explanation than mine.
        Thanks Chris!

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

        • Chris1138 says:

          No worries – I saw it kind of unfold on twitter after the Bourque waiving so it made more sense at the time and in context.

          –| Brad Marchand | Starley Cup Chanpiar 2011 |–

  11. Mattyleg says:

    I’m a construction mogul.
    I own every single building in NDG, except for one.
    I put a bid in to buy it.

    It has a depanneur on the ground floor.
    I am not allowed to own every depanneur in NDG because of anti-monopoly laws. If I did own all the deps, I could price-fix and charge $40 for a case of O’Keefe’s. I know this, but I don’t care.

    So I buy the building anyway, and when the council says that I’ll have to get rid of the dep or turn it into a… laundromat or cafe, I raise a big stink, and tell everyone who lives in the building I just bought that the laws are stupid and that they should sign a petition to allow poor me to be able to keep that dep open.

    Everyone gets upset and sides with me against the city council because I’ve convinced them that it’s their fault. I sit back and let other people fight my battle for me, while quietly drawing up “$40 fer a case of O’Keefe” signs.

    Any time someone questions me about whether I should try to change laws that are made to protect small businesses from people like me, I say “won’t somebody think of the children?” and watch as the critic of my completely innocent plan is torn apart.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Garbo says:

      $40 would be a bargain for a case of beer in Vancouver!

      • Mattyleg says:

        A case is 12 beers.
        Don’t tell me 12 beers cost over $40.
        Pleeeeease don’t tell me that…

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Bripro says:

          $40 for a case of O’Keefe?
          Isn’t that a collector’s item?
          Sounds like a great deal to me.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Way out here a case is a case and men are men. That would be a 24 Matty!

        • Garbo says:

          Roughly $25 for 12 and $45 for 24.

          Fortunately the prices out here are ONLY double that in Quebec.

          Boy do I miss the days of $20 two-fours at Couche-Tard.

        • Whatever says:

          A case is 12 beers in Quebec?

          I’ve only ever known a case to be 24.

          • Habsrule1 says:

            Don’t give Quebec a bad name. A case is 24 in Quebec. you’d have to be very specific if you wanted anything less than that.

            Go Habs Go!!

            “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

        • Habsrule1 says:

          A case is 24 where I come from.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

          • Mattyleg says:

            Nope, a six-pack (or a six), a case, a 2-4.
            That’s what they’ve always been called here!

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • 100HABS says:

            agreed –
            In 1989, I bet a case with a Newfie that the Habs would win the Cup. When Calgary won, I bought him a 2-4. He was happily surprised. I think if the Habs had won, there would have been a fight!

        • 100HABS says:

          I’m in Québec, and a case is a 2-4. A 12 is for 18-yr-olds who can’t afford a case for Friday night!

        • Welks says:

          A case is 24 beers. As Bob and Doug would say a “Two-Four”. 12 beers is a 12 pack. And a case of Alexander Keiths is $19.95 at the Peace Bridge duty free coming from Fort Erie to the US. Sorry to rub it in.

          • Mattyleg says:

            In the US and the rest of Canada ‘Main Courses’ are inexplicably called ‘Entrées’.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Steve C. says:

        Any Habs gathering places out there?

    • The Cat says:

      Shoot, I didnt know Okeefe was still being made.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      If I had known you had that kind of money and owned that stuff, I would have been much nicer to you at the last Summit, instead I made you wear a Gomez jersey, geez what was I thinking!!!!

      • The Cat says:

        If hes so rich, why does he get so upset over the price of beer in BC?

        [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I am at a loss right now Cat, the fact Matty refers to a case as being a 12pack has me completely disoriented. I am not sure what to make of anything he says from now on.

        • Mattyleg says:

          I want the people to be able to afford to get drunk enough to fall for my nefarious plans!

          Sobriety is the enemy!

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Interesting how all anyone took from this well thought out post was the part about the beer :-(
      Not that I agree totally with the rest, but it was well written.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Where you from, Matty? Montreal?
      I’ve never, ever heard it said like that.
      If I asked anyone I know for “a case”, I’d be asking, and expect a case of 24.
      Any other amount and I’d specifically say to get me a 6-pack or a “case of 12″.
      Interesting.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • Mattyleg says:

        Yep, Montreal.
        My circle always called 12 beers a ‘case’ and a ‘2-4′ was 24.

        Like I said above, Americans and English Canadians call ‘main courses’ ‘Entrées’, so I’m not sure what to think when they question other nomenclatures…

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • bleedhabs81 says:

        When I came to alberta a co-worker asked me to pick up a case of beer for him before a work poker game.

        I grabbed in two 12’s.

        He was like WTF? I asked for a case. I said this is a case. My boss steps in (being an Ontario boy himself) and clarifies:

        Albertan’s are P***ys. Here a case is 12. In Ontario we man up and call 24 a case and 12 a half case 12.

  12. Luke says:

    As I ponder last night’s KO, all I can equate it to is Kypreos blowing blood bubbles on the ice… that didn’t change a thing. Neither will this. People will rage about it for few days… that and visors… and then it’ll all settle back down and nothing will change.
    Sadly I don’t think it’ll be a “near miss” that’ll cause real change. It’ll take a tragedy.

    • Loonie says:

      If the NHL doesn’t respond to people dying due to injuries sustained from fighting they won’t make changes when a player dies on the ice. Like Nascar they will attribute the death to a pre-existing condition or other circumstance and absolve the violence of fighting on ice as a potential cause of death.

  13. Loonie says:

    Boston put Chris Bourque on waivers with nobody returning from injury.

    Leading to speculation they’ve acquired or are in the process of acquiring somebody.

    Ryan Clowe is the hot name.

    • The Jackal says:

      Buck Foston.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      That would be good.

      It would be good because if they get Clowe they’re not getting Iggy.

    • Kfourn says:

      That would probably be a very bad thing for the Habs, unless another big body is getting traded the other way.

      _______________________________________________________
      Well, he’s kind of had it in for me ever since I accidentally ran over his dog. Actually, replace “accidentally” with “repeatedly” and replace “dog” with “son.”

      “It’s sad when our rookies have no NHL experience before they jump up to the NHL.” – nunacanadien

    • Whatever says:

      Making room in the dressing room for Marchand’s nose. With every interview it gets longer and longer and longer.

  14. Habitant in Surrey says:

    @Mattyleg, if You have to ask such an oblivious question You aren’t as smart as You pretend

    • Mattyleg says:

      Which question?
      The one about a question about someone’s sexuality being vicious?
      In the 21st Century, questioning someone’s sexuality isn’t considered ‘vicious’. That would mean that being homosexual is a negative thing. Which it’s not.

      Falsely questioning someone’s moral fibre, falsely questioning someone’s integrity, falsely questioning the legality of someone’s actions or intentions can be qualified as ‘vicious’ because those all qualify as matters of choice, where someone has acted against societal acceptability. Sexuality is not a choice, and a rumour surrounding it cannot therefore be considered ‘vicious’.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • bleedhabs81 says:

        While I agree with you in principal, Matty, it is not as simple as that.

        Unfortunately there are still way too many people that believe homosexuality is perverse and evil. As such, asking or suggesting someone is one is percieved as an insult.

        Also, to have your sexual preferrence questioned openly for the world to see is a little malicious. It is personal and until such time as it is universally accepted, it should remain a personal choice whether you disclose it or not. It should not be something that can be solicited by strangers. It should never be a question, unless posed by someone who genuinely cares about you and is not seeking to do you damage or spread it around.

        I, for one, could care less about what team Gorges plays for and I don’t really understand why this is even a thing. So what if Gorgeous Gorges likes the men? Does that change our perception of him as a player?

        Also, I assume you were just kidding around and there should be no real offence taken with the post in question.

        • Mattyleg says:

          That’s very well put.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • bleedhabs81 says:

            Thanks Mattyleg

            Generally, I find you one of the better posters here. I may not always agree with you, but I always find you fair and reasonable.

            I usually enjoy HIS posts too, so I was a bit surprised that I logged on and found this exchange going on.

            Let’s hope the boys play a solid game tonight and all that is left for us to do tomorrow is to discuss how fabulous (said with a lisp) they played.

          • Mattyleg says:

            Cheers mate!
            Haha!

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • sheds88 says:

            it is well . it seems the only posters with the problem about asking this are the 50+ club

  15. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    How come no one has mentioned the Chucky/Gally/Prust video above? Chucky is hysterical…”maybe in two years”…LOL!

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  16. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …I wish any further member of HIO whom brings up the viciously false rumor about Gorges will be permanently banned by HIO

    …enough !

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      You just brought it up.

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        LOL!

        Anyway, I just realized that I got modded for making a joke about a rumor that I did not start or put on this site. Now you guys @HIO woke up and decided to do something?…geez

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • The Cat says:

      Laugh about it I say. By treating it like a delicate matter, youre just making it worse by lending it credibility.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Mattyleg says:

      How is it ‘vicious’?

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • shiram says:

      Comments are being deleted about it, I think it’s time we all dropped this subject.

    • Garbo says:

      Why are you so appalled by the rumour?

      The only “vicious” thing is your reaction to it.

    • 100HABS says:

      People wonder why there is a big stink about a gay player. You know, it doesn’t matter if someone is gay or not. But on a hockey team, they dress together and shower together. You don’t have to be homophobic to be uncomfortable in such a situation.

      Hence why most women prefer to change in private and not in front of men…

      • Cal says:

        Geez, is that where the women got the idea?

      • bleedhabs81 says:

        BRWWWWWAAAA.

        I think that is wrong. I think women prefer to change in private because Men, who are not used to public nudity, see it as a completely sexual thing. Let’s face it, we are very sexual creatures and the fact that we are not exposed to naked women as a normal thing only serves to re-inforce our interest in the female form.

        It is why women go to all women gyms… they don’t like being stared at like a peice of fresh meat…. well, some do. But the majorirty feel threatened and violated.

        They are also inherently more private. I had a female friend who used a dating site once and she was amazed at how many guys just assumed she wanted to see their junk. They weren’t shy about it.

        Do you really think the big tough hockey players feel threatened by having a gay male in the locker room? Have you ever been in a locker room? Chances are there was a gay man in there with you. Dangles out… feel violated now?

        The only reason you would feel violated is if you were scared and homophobic. That mentallity needs to change.

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      HIS you seem to be taking this to heart. Anytime I see the rumour you’re right there. Just let it blow over. You think it’s false, I think it’s false, it will pass.

  17. Nitroslices says:

    Someone sent me this video on Julien’s embellishment rant. I don’t if it originally came from this board but if not, it is a good laugh. I think Julien had 1 donut too many and where did RATBOY learn the triple LUTZ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6IxtxfsNWg

  18. Les-Habitants says:

    TSN is saying Yannick Weber is back in the lineup. Who is coming out?

  19. Bripro says:

    Who watched the Hawks / Avs game last night?
    The Avs were dealt a raw deal, losing that in the last 50 seconds or so.
    Matt Duchene…. wow.
    And they had him paired with…ready for this?
    Aaron Palushaj.
    I have to say, Palushaj played far better than I’ve ever seen him play while here.
    I’m hoping this isn’t another case of “I can’t believe we let that kid get away.” He was very good.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      I remember seeing him play one good game for the Habs. And he had one decent stretch in Hamilton. If he blossoms into a good player, no blame should be shouldered by the Habs, IMO.

      We have many other prospects to worry about with greater potential.

    • shiram says:

      Was he given a top 6 chance with the Habs?
      I don’t remember him getting treated like say Gallagher is being treated right now, basically putting a rookie in a situation where they can succeed.

    • ooder says:

      with the habs he played 4th line minutes on with weber and god knows who.
      hard for a kid to succeed in those types of scenarios

    • boing007 says:

      I watched all of it. Palushaj could be a young Ryder in the making. Or better. Too bad the Habs gave up on him so fast.

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  20. HabFanSince72 says:

    I would advise everyone not to mention anyone’s name in connection with rumours of sexual orientation. Even when discussing a rumour, you are putting the site at risk.

    As to whether a player coming out would be a big deal: It would.

  21. Gally27 says:

    It was a fake twitter than made it up. Burke’s son apologized for spreading it more.

  22. Bim says:

    What’s the word on Diaz’ return? Danny Kristo is just about done school out West. Does anyone think Habs will sign him before the NHL season ends? Also..any more on the Lecavalier to Montreal rumours?

  23. Habsrule1 says:

    I’m reading some of these posts about tsn690 and they are coming off as very heartless.
    Regardless of Bell (I cancelled my service with them in January), the employees of tsn690 would like to keep their jobs. They are not the ones you should take out your hatred of Bell on.

    Not to mention, I’d like to have English sports radio in Montreal.

    What does your spewing of Bell hatred have to do with that?

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Bell are the ones threatening TSN690.

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        They were threatening TSN690. The CRTC was inundated with complaints about changing TSN690 to French and Bell’s takeover was stopped. Bell now has to keep TSN690 and needs an exemption to the law to allow their takeover. Democracy worked for once. Personally, I don’t care if Bell owns TSN690 but apparently it bothers others a great deal. All I can say is that there is more to the issue than simply a debate over government regulation and monopolies…i.e., the jobs of the employees.

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

        • Mattyleg says:

          I don’t care if Bell owns them either!!

          They just shouldn’t be holding the English-speaking public ransom so that they can change the law to suit their desires.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • Loonie says:

          Blocking the takeover would have been the right move. Setting a dangerous precedent that in no way deters the pursuit of monopolization is an ugly can of worms.

    • Loonie says:

      I feel for those people, but they’re working at the top of their profession and won’t have any trouble finding work. It isn’t as if they’re doing the graveyard shift for an obscure AM station.

      Bell’s attempted monopolization of the telecommunications market in Canada is a problem for some people. Present company included.

      • Cal says:

        With 2.6% of the listenership pie, TSN690 is pretty obscure. ;)

        • Habsrule1 says:

          That shouldn’t make any difference. If the station was losing money, it would be closed. I don’t think it should be closed because of some sort of regulation.
          I feel for the employees first. It’s not like everyone working there are these well established broadcasters. I doubt guys like Melnyk, Price, and others would be out of work for long, but others may not find it as easy to find work with no English sports stations in Montreal.
          Plus, I enjoy the station a great deal.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

          • Mattyleg says:

            I’d love to see the station stay.

            But it’s not the fault of the regulation, it’s the fault of Bell.

            They have to fix this, not the government.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Mattyleg says:

      I don’t hate Bell.
      I have not issue with them at all.
      I’m not a customer, and I have no interest in them.
      My problem is that they want to have the law changed so that they can do whatever they want.

      Don’t you see that as a problem?

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • Habsrule1 says:

        In a word, yes.
        But not as much as losing the station would bother me.

        Go Habs Go!!

        “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  24. Bripro says:

    Bel posted earlier about having played with Chris Pronger.
    I played one year in Junior B and tried out for the local junior A team with Glen Currie on the roster. I was trying out as he was about to exit, having been chosen by Laval.

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=6499

    He went on to be drafted by the Capitals.
    He was so good at all levels. Every arena of every region. Every town he played in, he was lights out.
    I really don’t think people realize just how good even a marginal player, like say a Mathew Darche, really has to be to get to the NHL.

    I mean Glen was a great player. And yet he had marginal results in the NHL.
    During these Junior tryouts, I figured my best approach to impress, being vertically challenged (I was 5’3″ at that age), was to go after him.
    Being the dirty player that I was, I figured if I got in his face, then the coaches would have to take notice.
    So I chased him into the corner for the puck, and he saw me coming by my reflection on the glass.
    I went full-steam ahead, ready to lay him out, when he dropped to his knees and stopped dead.
    I went ass-over-teakettle with my skates hitting the glass, me being upside down.
    After practice, he entered the room with beer in hand, and congratulated me on my attempt. “…pretty brave Bri.”
    My reply? More stupid than brave.
    They never selected me.

    • shiram says:

      Cool story Bri.

    • bel33 says:

      Yup… since we’re telling fun stories.

      I also had a chance to play summer hockey one year with Chris (Pronger) after he was a bit into his career.. I think he was on his way to St. Louis that fall. (so long ago.. my memory sucks) His brother Sean (Ducks, Rangers, Boston) also played. We had fans watching us for a summer league game… very odd.

      Anyhow… Long story short… the team we were playing against from another small town and they were taking the game way too seriously. They were being physical and grinding out plays in the corner, when most of us were just buddies back for the summer and playing together again.

      Chris snapped… (as he sometimes did) and finally said on the bench that he’d had enough. He told Sean to pick it up on the next shift and be ready.

      From the bench I witnessed a display of a little bit of what the show was like. The other team’s hot shot (he was playing in the NCAA) was coming down on a rush and tried to go outside on Chris. Chris in one move… rubbed him into the boards, took the puck from him, turned up ice, and hit Sean with a snap shot pass up the middle. More like a rocket.

      Sean was at full speed by this point, split their D, or rather they weren’t moving and he skated past, and blasted an insane slapshop to the top right corner before the goalie moved.

      Needless to say the game returned to a less serious nature after that. Scary good how even the “worst” NHL player in your mind really is when you’re on the ice with them.

      Funny thing is after that summer, and the reaming he got from Keenan about “training” in the summer, Chris never really spent summers at home anymore and his career picked up even more.

  25. shiram says:

    @JFChaumont
    #Habs: Yannick Weber jouera contre les Hurricanes, à Raleigh.

    Weber in

  26. youngwun says:

    The question is who’s worse on D , weber or kaberle? Hopefully weber won’t get much ice time.

  27. Whatever says:

    I find it extremely disappointing.

    Disappointing that whomever created this rumour failed to mention that Gorges is in fact living with a man…and it’s a teammate (living with his female fiance too, but whatever). Very poor pseudo investigative rumour mongering. For shame.

  28. icky pop says:

    Considering that it has been reported here that Gallagher is living with gorges, and his girlfriend, I find it highly doubtful that he is gay. If he is, why does anyone care? Would it make him any less of a hockey player? If your wondering about his life off the ice so much, does anyone wonder if he wipes front to back? Or is his sexual orientation your only concern?

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Agreed and well said.
      However, inevitably there will be interest if ever it happens that an NHL player comes out. He would be the first.

    • Whatever says:

      I have a problem with the anonymous baseless rumour, not the particular content of the rumour. I would also have a problem with any other anonymous baseless rumour that involves the personal life of a player.

  29. Loonie says:

    Is Dr. Rex in the house today?

    I want to get his opinion about the Don Cherry fighting is macho mentality and the like view of how not fighting is seen as feminine when in reality it’s clear in some cases that the over zealous joy toward fighting usually presents itself in those who are closet or unaware homosexuals and the related facade presenting itself as a defense mechanism to thwart off suspicions of the sexual preference.

    I mean, Don Cherry kisses men on a regular basis, puts his pinky in the air when discussing people making pots of tea and openly admits to loving men and doesn’t specify which level his love comes from.

    I’m not judging. I just find it sad that such a large group of people are so insecure with their sexuality that they need to put on a bravado exterior to cover up who they really are.

  30. Habfan10912 says:

    Any thoughts on Weber playing tonight? Might be a good time to put him in there for Kabrele, Frankie B? The kid is rotting in the press box and I’d like to give him a shot. Am I nuts?

  31. Kfourn says:

    Price and Weber in tonight

    _______________________________________________________
    Well, he’s kind of had it in for me ever since I accidentally ran over his dog. Actually, replace “accidentally” with “repeatedly” and replace “dog” with “son.”

    “It’s sad when our rookies have no NHL experience before they jump up to the NHL.” – nunacanadien

  32. habs12 says:

    eklund’s E1 rumors are more credible…

  33. Luke says:

    This was mentioned earlier on the page, and many times by the pro-fighting pundits:

    “Fighting is a safety valve to prevent stickwork”

    Obviously it isn’t. As every Habs fan knows Emelin put the stick to Seguin with (arguably) the toughest player in the league on the ice. He was in no way afraid of using his stick, or intimdated by Chara or the rest of the Bruins. Fighting does not deter anything. Especially when you consider that real goons only fight each other.

    I love a good fight. That’s why I watch UFC. Wanderlei vs Stann was exceptional. I love good hockey. That’s why I love the NHL. Chicago vs Detroit this weekend was phenominal… but I don’t remember if there was or wasn’t a fight in it.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      You can’t make a blanket statement like this:
      “Fighting does not deter anything.”

      Will it deter some? Yes.
      Will it deter all? No.

  34. Cardiac says:

    Implications? Is that a serious question?

    How about this… They construct a third dressing room with a huge sign saying “Fags Only” so the rest of the team can put on their equipment in peace…..

    “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
    – Jerry Maguire

  35. Mattyleg says:

    This could be wishful thinking by Montreal’s gay community.

    There is no way of knowing ‘how much truth’ there is to it. If it’s true, who cares.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  36. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    Who cares about a completely unsubstantiated rumour?

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  37. Loonie says:

    He’s engaged to a woman. So if it’s true he’s had one hell of a cover.

  38. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Hoping for a win in Carolina. GO Habs!!!

  39. commandant says:

    UFA Rentals in Buffalo

    Any interest for the Habs?

    http://lastwordonsports.com/2013/03/07/cross-border-trade-deadline-shopping-sales-in-buffalo/

    Go Habs Go!
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    • Hobie Hansen says:

      I think Stafford is a UFA? 6’2″ and 50 goals combined over the past two seasons heading into this year and is only 27-years-old.

      I’d take a stab at him.

    • Bripro says:

      I don’t think MB would trade draft picks for playoff band-aids. At least I hope not. Timmens is too astute with his draft picks for the team to go that route.
      But trading one 3rd round pick and say, Weber, for Regher for me would be a fair trade.

    • Loonie says:

      It’s never a good idea to trade within your own division unless you’re hitting a homerun.

      It goes without saying but I’ll say it anyway that when you give prospects or draft picks to teams within your own division you’re potentially giving a rival a star player.

      For a rental? No thanks.

    • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

      Maybe Regher…a physical defenceman that can kill penalties. Have not seen him play a lot recently so not sure…

      “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

  40. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Friends, although a 100% Habs fan, I unmask myself NOT to be a psychotic Leafs-hater like most of you!

    But I was just reading Globe and Mail posts on last night’s McLaren fight. Yikes — so many of them write as if they’re about 13 years old. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised by the balance and objectivity of a couple of Globe threads after we beat the Leafs last time, but what I just read was pretty pathetic.

    And. I thought of all of you and felt all warm and fuzzy.

  41. Hobie Hansen says:

    That punch Mclaren derived to the face of that young Sens player last night was devastating. It was ugly to watch and I don’t enjoy stuff like that.

    The NHL is in a tough jam with fighting. The fans LOVE it. And most players who play competitively believe it to be a part of the game it and don’t seem to mind it because it adds to the overall competition level. Remember, these are young guys not old farts sitting behind a desk with no testosterone left. And if you don’t want to fight, generally you don’t have to.

    The big question, should the old farts sitting behind the desks take the decision away from the league and the players? Should the police, govenment or whoever, step in and stay enough is enough.

    Now that I’m approaching 40-years-old (testosterone decreasing) , still a few years to go :-), each fight I see like last night makes me rethink things a little.

    It’s a bit selfish of me I guess but I like seeing two guys go at it. I honestly don’t care for the staged fights, like last night, but if two guys battling in the corner flip their lids and drop the gloves, that’s great entertainment.

    When I watch a game I scream and yell when I see great goals, big hits and a fight! Removing the fight takes away a good chunk of entertainment vale from the game.

    Taking away fighting would leave a void that would take quite a while to recover from. It would change the game in more ways than people think.

    Again, last night was ugly and I hate seeing that. I’m really not sure how they handle this (fighting) going forward?

    • Loonie says:

      Hobie, not to be rude or anything but if by “fans love it” you mean that around half of the fans love it, you’re right.

      • Hobie Hansen says:

        Well there are fans that say they don’t like fights and all of a sudden they’re at the game, beer in hand, going wild when there’s a fight. The Bell Centre is rocking louder when there’s a fight over a goal on a lot of occasions.

        • Loonie says:

          Are you kidding Hobie? Garbo makes a fair point below that there’s really no data to back up any claim with regard to fighting and how it’s viewed. I’m speculating here but I’m doing so because assuming that every hockey fan enjoys fighting is naive. So that’s one thing, but now you’re doing the Ol’Grapes and telling us that people who say they don’t like fighting in hockey cheer when they see one?

          Yeah, based on a friend who did it or on the opinion of your God…..oops, I meant Don Cherry.

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            Just calling it like I see it Loon.

            Oh, and I’ve seen maybe 20 seconds of a coaches corner in the past two years btw :-)

            like Bob Cole, who I have respect for, Don Cherry is long overdue on his retirement.

          • Habsrule1 says:

            Let’s just say every hockey fan I know enjoys the fights, and I don’t consider myself, or my family & friends, barbarians. If it’s 2 guys, around the same size, and preferably, same skill level, a significant injury only occurs in 1 out of every, what….1000 fights?

            All that being said, I still consider myself on the fence about whether there should be fighting in the NHL.

            Go Habs Go!!

            “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

          • Loonie says:

            I’ll go ahead and assume the second Don Cherry reference was a joke.

            But it really is sad there’s evidence on these boards of the kind of damage an asshole like Don Cherry can do to Canada’s youth or impressionable minds.

      • Garbo says:

        I disagree.

        I doubt either of us have any data to back this up, but I believe people who don’t enjoy hockey fights are in the minority of hockey fans by a large margin.

        • commandant says:

          The numbers have shown fans to be somewhat close to 40/60 in terms of not liking vs liking fighting in polls.

          The 40% number jumps over 50% when you put up the term “Staged Fight”

          So I think there is a group.

          Nevermind the fact that its impossible to prove how many people would be fans of the sport but aren’t because they disapprove of the way the NHL treats fighting. This may be a significant number but its impossible to tell.

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          • Loonie says:

            I think there’s a direct correlation between fans in rural areas who approve of fighting because they grew up with three channels and had to watch Coach’s Corner and the counterpoint of those in Urban communities who don’t approve of it with larger choices on tube.

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            Interesting stats.
            And there must be more, perhaps classified market research figures owned by the NHL?
            Otherwise, why would the League resist calls to ban fighting?
            Either they have research to back it up or they’re going on gut feeling.
            (Obviously, it being business, there is no moral component to their reasoning at all.)

          • Hobie Hansen says:

            Those stats thrown out there are SO subjective. Next Habs game when Prust is fighting a Bruins or Leafs player, take a snap shot of the arena, or record the game. Then scan through the crowd and check the number of people sitting as apposed to standing.

            I’d say 90% are standing and interested. Maybe they don’t like fights but they’re certainly very interested to watch. And that’s what the NHL is after.

            Violence sells, big time!

            Like i said earlier, the question is, will a greater authority stand up and tell the NHL to pull the plug?

          • frontenac1 says:

            Sometimes people say things in polls and lie. Like “Do you like to watch midget porn?” Hell no,that”s awful! But put it on and bingo!Its Hilarious. Anyway,off to the Saloon for some pregame cocktails .Saludos Amigos!

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Testosterone is why the alpha males fight.

      But the ones with low testosterone in all this are the beta males hooting and hollering on the sidelines.

    • habs-hampton says:

      +1

      I used to feel that fighting had to stay in the game, but the fights used to be between 2 hockey players, not UFC dropouts.

      And on Saturday night, Don cherry will once again explain to us how nobody gets hurt in a hocket fight, and how that player in Europe wouldn’t be paralyzed from a hit from behind, if they allowed fighting over there.

    • ont fan says:

      Fighting for me is alright in the heat of the battle and between two guys that are equal. I have a hard time when a team tries to push non fighters, like an Eller for ex., into an uneven fight. Saw it to many times, growing up, when a kid just got killed.

      • boing007 says:

        Right, Chara shouldn’t be allowed to fight anyone smaller than him. The Big Bully. Hope Scott knocks the snot out of him sometime soon.

        Richard R
        Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

    • Cal says:

      No fighting in the Olympics and it’s great hockey. The NHL should be riding that wagon, and not the goon and buffoon show.

      This would require the NHL to fire Campbell and everyone else in the so-called “player safety” department.
      Then, they’d have to bring in an anti-goon regime. Only afterwards could we see the day when hockey eliminates fighting, thereby eliminating many low skill players.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Agree 100% and well said.

        • GrosBill says:

          I actually enjoy fighting in the game (muggings aside, Chara style last week). But I also would not passionately defend it’s need to be in the game. What would happen without it blah blah blah………….one answer: olympics

          All 2002 and 2010 wasn’t real hockey because of no fighting? Seems like a lame excuse to say it is NEEDED for this reason or that.

          Agree with Cal. Changes for this to happen (stopping fighting) need to take place at the top which would seem to require some key people being replaced….

  42. Mattyleg says:

    Just posting this to clarify a conversation down below that you might not see:

    Re: Bell and TSN 690.

    Bell wants to buy TSN 690 and a bunch of other radio stations run by Astral Media.

    If they go ahead with this, they would have to either change the working language of the station, or shut it down completely, because of anti-monopoly laws.

    This means that if Bell buys TSN 690, it is finished.

    BUT, Bell launches a ‘Save TSN 690!!’ campaign and paints itself as the poor victim of a naughty, naughty law.

    The law won’t allow large corporations (like…oh, I don’t know… BELL, for instance) to monopolize radio stations. Which is what they want to do, or else they wouldn’t be attempting to buy ALL of them.

    So now we have Bell saying “The law wants to shut down TSN 690!!”

    The truth, however, is that the law is there to protect smaller businesses from aggressive takeovers, like Bell is attempting.

    Shouldn’t the petition be about blocking Bell from attempting this in the first place??

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Loonie says:

      Sure should be. Speaking as someone who paid a ton of money to cancel services from Bell even though they leased land from our family business for over twenty years. The series of moves they’ve tried to make in the last year have absolutely been to monopolize the market with the understanding that the competition is gaining ground on them.

      Preemptive moves on their part. Hoping the government steps up and puts a stop to it.

      They more than any company in their industry have no regard for quality service and instead of rectifying the situation they’re trying to control the entire market.

    • Bripro says:

      The CRTC already blocked the purchase of Astral’s stations by Bell earlier this year.
      Now they’re just changing their approach.
      Poor little Bell being victimized by big government rulings.
      Let them fix my internet first, then maybe I’ll listen to what they have to say.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Exactly! Thank you.
        I don’t want to see the station go either, but I’m not in favour of changing laws designed to protect smaller businesses from multinationals.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • mdp2011 says:

      Actually, it’s not the case Matty. Bell already owns TSN 690, they are not trying to buy it. They are trying to buy Astral which owns CJAD and other stations, that is why they want an exemption.

  43. Loonie says:

    If Pierre Lebrun is correct about what Marc Bergevin’s looking for on the trade market(physicality and scoring in top six role kind of guy) and I’m not sure that Bergevin would be completely forthcoming about his wants, he’ basically in jail.

    Looking at the likely sellers around the league or teams in need of a change. Ryan Clowe, Jarome Iginla, Nik Antropov and Milan Hejduk are the only guys who really fit the criteria among the likeliest teams to send rentals away.

    Iginla is going to command a King’s ransom if he moves, Antropov and Hejduk don’t offer much physical play and so we’re left with Clowe.

    Not a bad fit and could be really effective, but nearly every playoff team is going to be after the guy. He’ll be the consolation prize for those who can’t get Iginla.

    So instead of focusing on Iginla, what about focusing on teams that need to trim cap space for next year and have rentals available?

    Vancouver and Chicago specifically have a cap crunch next season and have attractive pending UFA in Mason Raymond and Viktor Stalberg.

    Those are the guys who might fly under the radar and get plucked away

    • commandant says:

      I don’t know that I’d be trading anyone, UFA or not, if I was the Blackhawks. Go after the Cup and worry about the cap later. It worked for them in 2010. Canucks likely have a similar philosophy and they have ready made cap relief in Luongo.

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      • Loonie says:

        I don’t necessarily disagree with you regarding Chicago but on Vancouver, somebody has to take Luongo on before it can be considered cap relief. Considering they’ve been trying to move him for nearly a full calendar year with no takers I wouldn’t call it “ready made”.

        • The Jackal says:

          If teams are looking for cap relief, then who is to say Luongo will be moved?

          I know moving him provides the Canucks with the greatest relief, but with the cap coming down, and his contract, he is not exactly as attractive as before.

          I think the Canucks should move Schneider and stick with Lou. Moving Schneider provides cap relief and a good return as well. Vancouver can instantly improve without losing its strength in net.

          But this is a Habs website…. let’s not trade away future pieces for a UFA. That’s my view.

          • Loonie says:

            I agree on Luongo. Nobody in the West is going to take him and help Vancouver. In the East there aren’t many suitors. Toronto’s basically it.

            Nonis may pull the trigger but it isn’t a forgone conclusion.

          • jmsheehy19 says:

            I could see Edmonton making a move for him, or St. Louis

        • commandant says:

          All reports are that Toronto was willing to take him for Bozak and Kadri at the draft, but Vancouver wanted more.

          Obviously with how Kadri has played that deal is off the table.

          But there are teams willing to take him, its just a matter of vancouver accepting their price. Right now, no one has given Vancouver what they are asking for. That doesn’t make him untradeable, it means the asking price is too high (right now).

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          • Loonie says:

            The ask is too high or teams don’t want him bad enough?

            He’s a great goalie with an awful contract. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

    • Cal says:

      MB’s in with Chicago management could make a trade with them a little easier to do.
      I’m in the “why trade anyone right now” mode. I am enjoying this winning streak by our Habs, but it is tempered with, “Holy crap, look at what Chicago and Anaheim are doing!” Our Habs are performing way better than last season, yet they aren’t what we’d call a contender yet.
      The rebuild continues and our team is playing an exciting brand of hockey. All good so far.

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      • Loonie says:

        In my opinion Bergevin’s annual dilemma will be that if you’re a good team in the Eastern Conference you always have a chance to get to the Stanley Cup.

        And with that in mind it will be very hard for him to avoid making short term trades.

        • Cal says:

          If the Habs could get a Perry from Anaheim and a Byfuglien from Winnipeg, they’d do it. Of course, Anaheim and Winnipeg management would have to be crazy to part with players like that. However, losing prospects (that may play for 10+ seasons) for 1 playoff run isn’t worth it, imo.
          Habs won’t make any major moves this season, excepting the last amnesty buyout.

  44. Hoegaarden says:

    Good reading this morning.
    Want to stop stage fights ?
    As soon as the gloves are dropped, game suspension + 5 more. Repeat, game + 10. Third, game + rest of season.

    Bottom line is this. Until the NHLPA agrees to fully ban staged bare knuckles fights, the game of hockey is stuck with it. Owners, agents and fans do not end up with concussions, players do.

    We all know it is not going to happen but solutions are available and can be applied without asking Tom, Dick or Harry how they feel about it.

    Go Habs Go !

    • B says:

      I still say full face protection with very severe fines and penalties for taking off your helmet with that full face protection. That should take the steam out of staged fights.

      –Go Habs Go!–

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Good proposals.
      Unfortunately, the League/Owners have no desire whatsoever to lose the income they believe is generated by fighting. It’s a pity the industrialists who own the great game of hockey don’t actually believe in its ability to sell itself. That’s why they appropriate aspects of MMA/UFC — catering to society’s lowest common denominator ALWAYS guarantees coin.
      But just supposing there was a transformation in the future and the NHL chose to ban fighting, I believe your proposals would help achieve that. What would you think of imposing substantial fines (5 or 6 figures), not on the players but on the owners?

    • New says:

      You can’t really work it that way. All that will lead to is gloves in faces and spears. What you are proposing is reacting to the symptoms of a fight rather than the cause. If you want to end staged fights give the refs the power to declare “staged” plus throw out the head coach of each team and allow Shanahan to suspend for 5, 10 or the season the coach or if he feels necessary the entire coaching staff. No desk jobs, suspension, no pay.

  45. Bripro says:

    How much better do the fighter advocates think our Habs would be with a fighter of two in the lineup, and a few speedsters taken out?
    Someone asked how our team has done lately with smurfs, and puts in brackets “aside from the 2010 playoff run”.
    Well, that 2010 playoff run was loaded with smurfs, and we did just fine, thank you.
    And almost took the Bs the next year.
    And this year, they don’t seem so bad….. oh wait, they’re in first place.
    So what is really needed here?
    A fighter or a big body with talent and true ability?
    Sure, it would be great to have a Chris Pronger or Jack Johnson (whom I think are both better than Chara) in the lineup.
    If MB is a buyer, and would be able to deal for a Willie Mitchel or Skuderi (last year of his contract) to take them into the playoffs, then I would see this as a positive move.
    But if the Habs are truly in building mode, then the kids coming up, like Tinordi and Beaulieu will do just fine, over time.
    It depends on whether they truly think the cup can be achievable this year, or in a year or two.

    • bel33 says:

      I grew up with Chris Pronger… and unfortunately as everyone suspected… he’s not coming back. He’s lost a lot of his peripheral vision. Don’t see that coming back. Awesome career though.

      http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/chris-pronger-opens-loss-peripheral-vision-retiring-own-195457443–nhl.html

      • HabinBurlington says:

        While I didn’t like him playing against us, he was a heck of a player. The trades Philly made were done with the idea Pronger was still on that team. His going down to injury single handedly (sp?) ruined the Flyers last season.

        If indeed he is ready to retire, perhaps the Flyers will need to use an amnesty buyout on Pronger given his 35+ contract. I am not sure how long the league will allow Philly to keep him on I.R. in order to avoid the caphit.

        • Dunboyne Mike says:

          Good discussion of Pronger. Great combination of size, skill and hockey smarts, and an intimidating presence. His value to the teams he played on was immense.

          But too dirty for me.

          Big Bird is the paradigm.

        • commandant says:

          I think if his injury is career ending, the league really has no recourse but to let him stay on IR. If its proven he has lost peripheral vision, then he is injured. The NHL wouldn’t be able to say much here IMO.

          Go Habs Go!
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      • Bripro says:

        Thanks for the link Bel.
        I didn’t realize he was done.
        They interviewed his wife in July, and she implied that it didn’t seem he’d be coming back, but just as in this article, she never directly admitted that he’d never play again.
        I’m with Burly. I dreaded him playing against us, but what a player.

        • bel33 says:

          He’s still not saying he’s done… but it sure looks like it. I think Ben has it right (above)… I think the Flyers are fine with letting him stay on the IR as he did get injured playing for them and the league probably can’t force him to retire.

          I knew he was having issues through a mutual friend… but didn’t know about the vision problems until I saw the article.

          I knew when I played with him and he was still only 14 years old… he was the best player I had ever seen on the ice and he was going all the way. We just didn’t know how far he would get in the end.

          • Bripro says:

            You played with him, Steve?
            Was he as big then?

          • bel33 says:

            He was probably around 6’1″… but super skinny. Jesus could he skate though. Our go to move was give Chris the puck on the power play. haha.

            The next year (15yrs) he was gone… and on his way to Junior eventually… the rest is history.

  46. B says:

    So the Habs face 2 players tied for the league lead in +/- tonight. Who would have thought one of them would be Alexander Semin? (the other one is Eric Staal)

    –Go Habs Go!–

  47. HabinBurlington says:

    So Hickey tweets that Michel Therrien is suffering from an intestinal infection, seems to me I wake up with that most every day after a night at the pub. Never thought about giving it such a professional term though. ;-)

  48. habfan53 says:

    To show how big tonights game is.
    If Montreal loses and Toronto wins in overtime or shoot-out over the Bruins all three are tied and Toronto takes over 1st by virtue of wins and Montreal drops to 5th.

    Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

    • Chuck says:

      Already told my Boston fan friends that I’d be cheering against the Leafs tonight. I felt slimy, but it was the right thing to do.

      ___________________________________________________
      Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.

    • Bripro says:

      I hope they beat the crap out of each other and there aren’t enough players on either side to finish the game.
      They’ll both lose by default.
      I know, I’m dreaming, but what sweet dream it is. ;)

    • ont fan says:

      Last year, T.O. had the same amount of points after 24 games, so says my Leaf friends. Believe me, they are all holding their breath for the last 24.

    • boing007 says:

      Boo!

      Richard R
      Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  49. B says:

    That knockout was apparently a key part of Toronto winning the game, as per the blurb on TSN’s main hockey page:

    “On a strength of an ugly knockout and an early lead, the Toronto Maple Leafs won…”

    –Go Habs Go!–

  50. Chartrand1223 says:

    all this talk about fighting in hockey and that the Habs don’t need one…Bruins & Philly always rough up the Habs and there isn’t anything anyone can do, sorry Prust does not count as heavyweight, he scares no one. Habs need a fighter and a dam tough one at that. MB should inquire about getting Dustin Byfuglien from Wpg, Buff wants out and go to a contender, he would take care of Lucic guaranteed and Chara would not manhandle him like he’s a rag doll, Philly does not rough it up when they play Wpg like they do to Habs…and the worse thing of all is now the Leafs are playing the Habs like this too…unreal, John Ferguson must be turning over in his grave

    • habsguy says:

      oh come on !!!!!!, the sens had Neil sitting there, hes a tough guy, did it stop McClaren from doing what he does…NOOOOOO

      • issie74 says:

        Will McLaren take on Chara tonight?

        If that is his meaning of giving his team a boost, it would be good strategy Chara plays 25-30 mins.a game, so getting him in the penalty box now that would aid your team.

        Randy Carlyle and Claude Julien a mirror image of each other.

        NorthTOHab

        • Dunboyne Mike says:

          Chara, Lucic et al are under instructions NOT to fight goons.

          If, say, both McLaren and Chara go to the box or to the locker-room, which team wins?

    • Mattyleg says:

      Hahaha.
      That’s hilarious.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

  51. Garbo says:

    Regarding the posts about fighting.

    I read an interesting article a while back comparing pro football players to pit bull fighting. It has application here.

    Young, often-not-too-smart, males spend their whole life trying to make to the big show because they have some bit of talent and very little other options. All along the way they are encouraged to get there and there is a promise of huge payout at the end.

    That is all they know and all they are trained to do. Regardless of being an adult by the time they make it, choice has very little to do with the equation.

    They are not choosing to do so because that is what they truly want to do, but because that is what they are expected to do, and HAVE to do.

    I think relying on the argument that it is two consenting adults engaging in the behaviour is a very basic uninformed position. Any change needs to be brought about by the league and the systems they are brought up in, so that they are not expected to and do not HAVE to engage in this behaviour.

    That said, I enjoy a good fight, and ultimately don’t care that much about the well being of the players. Obviously I prefer not to see them hurt, but when they are I don’t lose sleep over it. And I love watching a good old hockey fight.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      I don’t know.
      Some of these players know they will only make the NHL by fighting on occassion and do it willingly. I think it’s a bit hypocritical to say after the fact that despite them making a lot of money, they should be felt sorry for because of the repercussions. I know that sounds heartless, but players know the risk, just like boxers, race car drivers, etc.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • Garbo says:

        I kind of agree with you.

        But the point of the article (I can’t recall for the life of me who wrote it, possibly Malcolm Gladwell) was exactly what you have pointed out. “They will only make the NHL by fighting on occasion”.

        And that is why they do it. That is what they are “bred” to do.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      That’s a very good and very provocative article, Garbo.

      Anyone interested in the issue of professional sport, violence and brain damage can hear a good discussion with Malcolm Gladwell with Michael Enright on the CBC’s “Sunday Edition” for Feb 3.

      http://www.cbc.ca/thesundayedition/shows/2013/02/03/is-pro-football-immoral/

  52. Timo says:

    Who is the little chickie pooh talking to Gallagher?

  53. habfan53 says:

    At this point in time who would you rather buy out at the end of the season?
    Kaberle 1 year at 4.5 million or
    Moen 3 years at 1.85 million for 3 years total 5.55 million

    Like the DODGERS “Wait till next year”

  54. adamkennelly says:

    would everyone be crying about fighting today if it was Lucic or Chara who got knocked out? Prolly not…

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I will admit my hypocrisy and say that after watching the game I hoped that McLaren would do the same to either of those. GUILTY as charged.

      • Whatever says:

        They play tonight.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          I know, will be curious to see how big McLaren plays tonight, given who is on the Bruins bench. I suppose a big part of what bothered me last night was that the kid from Ottawa was just starting his NHL career. He was playing his 10th NHL game and had only 2 PIM’s going into last night. I fear he never gets up to the NHL again. While he is no stranger to fights, he didn’t even have that many in the AHL yet and now gets destroyed by a big NHL heavyweight.

          I am not sure if Maclean in Ottawa had said anything to this young player about what his role is/was but I suspect his career is now hanging in the balance.

    • mdp2011 says:

      Well no, but those are the only two exceptions.

    • 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

      Consider the circumstances – Chara and Lucic make 6mil plus per year. If they choose to waste their time fighting a one shift goon at the start of the game then that’s on them.

      But they don’t.

      “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

  55. Garbo says:

    Not sure if this has been posted yet. Tragic. And bound to happen in the NHL if the refs don’t wake up soon.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/swiss-ice-hockey-player-paralyzed-after-being-pushed-into-end-boards/article9447023/>

    • Mattyleg says:

      Very very sad.
      For both players.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • Steve C. says:

      I can’t for the life of me classify this as a dirty hit. Keller was outmuscled by Schnyder. Dangerous hit? Yes. Predatory? No. I’ve seen dirty hits many times that are terrible (M. Richards on Booth, Cooke on Savard, Kaleta on B. Richards, etc…), but this wasn’t one of them. But yes, as Mattyleg said, this is very sad and very unfortunate.

      • Garbo says:

        Whether or not this particular incident is a dirty hit is rather irrelevant.

        The point is, dirty boarding-type hits happen frequently and can easily lead to this type of injury.

      • chanchilla says:

        You are out of your mind if you think this isnt a dirty hit, if you check someone 5 feet away from the boards they’re only going one place, push him forward, he’s going headfirst into the boards. From where he hit him, this was bound to happen.

        • Viruk42 says:

          Disagree. As I said earlier on this;
          It is extremely sad, and I feel sorry for everyone involved… I also hate to ask, but how much of an impact did Keller have on the result?

          As in, he clearly tries to stop and reverse quickly, in such a way to hit Schnyder, and so is thrown into the boards differently from if he had continued to pursue the puck first. Further to that, there is no guarantee Schnyder was going to hit Keller before Keller tried to hit him. It seems like a reactive hit to me, though I definitely don’t know for sure.

          I’m not trying to be a huge ass or anything here, just a bit worried that a guy is being labelled as a villain to an extreme level that isn’t deserved (he should be jailed? really?). Obviously it ruins one guys career and damages his life, but that doesn’t mean we automatically have to do the same to the other guy.

          • chanchilla says:

            I don’t think he’s a villain or that he did something terribly wrong, but at the end of the day, i think it was a dirty hit because of the length away from the board he is. If he’s a foot closer, his face hits the boards instead of the top of his head.

          • Viruk42 says:

            But I think it’s a result of Keller’s actions, in stopping to hit Schnyder behind him, that it was not a foot closer to the boards.

            Also not necessarily saying you were calling him a villain – I used the exact same wording around 9:30 where at least one guy was saying he should be jailed.

  56. Timo says:

    So… Budaj beats the Bruins and shuts out the Canes before that. Still going with Carey Price in nets tonight?

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Gotta get Price out of this funk. I like Budaj but we need Price to get things back on track.
      I definitely start Price tonight. I don’t even think he played that bad against the islanders. Most goals scored would not have been saved by very many goalies, if any.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  57. Timo says:

    That’s what she said…

    Booya!!!

  58. arcosenate says:

    From Pierre Lebrun:

    Montreal Canadiens: The Canadiens will continue to look to add size upfront. They would love to add someone of the Ryane Clowe mold. The Canadiens have three 2nd round picks this year and two 3rd rounders. LeBrun doesn’t see them trading top prospects or high draft picks on a rental player. They may look at making a traditional hockey deal that will help them in future years. LeBrun thinks they will hold onto Lars Eller.

  59. DDO_Habs_Fan says:

    With regards to the Bell petition, I happen to enjoy TSN690. I do not know another outlet where I can hear local personalities and all the major hockey analysts (McKenzie, LeBrun, Friedman, McGuire, Dreger, Ferraro, Ward, etc.). For those who say there is plenty of French programming, what are you talking about? CKAC/Corus Sports 730 AM does not exist anymore. Granted some of the programming was moved over to 98.5 FM but there is no dedicated French sports station. This leaves TSN 690 as the only dedicated sports station in Montréal. As for the French programming, the hockey broadcasts are good but the rest is forgettable. Imagine L’Antichambre on the radio…that is what it is. I prefer unbiased analysis and debate. Sorry but I don’t believe DD is the next Gretzky…

    Regardless of what you feel about the programming on TSN690, you should sign the petition on principle. If TSN690 was not viable, it would be off the air (like CKAC). What is the harm of TSN690 existing? Plenty of aspiring journalists/broadcasters have gotten their start at TSN690 and moved on to better things. How would you feel if you had a legitimate business and were told you could not operate it anymore because of some obscure regulation. People should lose their jobs if a business is unprofitable, not because of regulation.

    “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Mattyleg says:

      There’s no harm in TSN690 exisiting.
      The problem is that Bell wants to buy it and use popular pressure to circumnavigate the monopoly laws so they can acquire it.

      They say “Well, if we buy it, we’ll have to change it completely. Because of THE LAW (which is to blame for all of this, not our own sociopathic desire to monopolize as much media as possible)”

      Their other option, of course, is not buying it at all and leaving it the way it is. But it doesn’t want to do that.

      I don’t listen to sports talk very much, much like I don’t watch l’Antichambre. I generally find that there’s very little that those people can say that will enhance my enjoyment of the game, and they often create fake stories to justify their own existence, which I find annoying.

      I don’t have a problem with it being there, but I don’t think it’s a good idea to support a change to the law because Bell wants to have its megalomaniacal way. It sets a very bad, and dangerous precedent.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        I respect your economic argument but I don’t believe it justifies people losing their jobs in this case. Monopolies and oligopolies are a way of life in Canada. That is why regulation exists. I just think in this case the regulation has gone too far. There are better issues where to take a stand like cell phone, internet and cable prices. I don’t think it would be a “bad and dangerous precedent” to give people what they want for a change.

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

        • Mattyleg says:

          DDO, I don’t mean to offend or anything, but you’re missing the point about this.

          The issue here is not about keeping TSN 690. It’s about allowing Bell to buy TSN 690. People want to keep the radio station, I get it.

          But why is the issue about changing the law so that Bell can buy it? Why isn’t the issue about blocking Bell’s purchase of the (as you’ve said) economically viable radio station so that it doesn’t have to be changed in the first place?

          Bell is the problem here, not the law.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

            Don’t worry, you’re not offending me. You’re offering your opinion which you have every right to do. We just happen to be looking at this situation from different points of view. It does not bother me if Bell buys the station. It bothers me that the government over-regulates what kind of programming is offered. It goes against basic capitalism and laws of supply and demand.

            “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

          • Mattyleg says:

            The government isn’t regulating what kind of programming is offered.
            I think you’ve got it mixed up.

            In the Gazette article it says “Bell is asking the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission for an exception to its policy that limits the number of radio stations in one market that can be owned by the same company.”

            The only reason that they would be allowed to change the station to French is because neither Bell nor Astral have a French-Language AM station. But they already have English ones, which is the problem.

            Bell buying the station means that it will have to change it.
            So that’s the problem, not the regulation.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

            The government is telling you that you must have a French station. That is regulation. The language is by default a major part of the programming. I don’t see why someone can’t have two English radio stations. I believe this is ridiculous especially in the age of the internet and easy global communication.

            “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

          • Mattyleg says:

            So let’s say they’re allowed two.
            Why not three? Or four? Or all?

            This is about protecting something that is government run and regulated. Radio is not the internet. You can’t say whatever you want on the radio – there are rules governing this. Just like one company cannot own all the radio stations and decide on all the programming for them. That’s a monopoly.

            The language issue is about keeping the percentages right, which is in line with our bilingual national status. Bell’s the problem here, while the laws are about protecting smaller businesses and the national radio waves.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

            I guess we should just agree to disagree on the level of regulation that should be in the radio industry and leave it at that.

            “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

    • Habsrule1 says:

      Excellent post. I agree with every word.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • Cal says:

      CKAC was taken of the air BECAUSE of a CRTC intervention that forced the owners to make an all traffic all the time station. Not because it wasn’t viable.
      TSN690’s tiny amount of listeners 2.6% will ensure that station’s demise.
      The plain fact is that there aren’t enough English speaking sports fanatics in Montreal and environs to make them viable.
      I am all for a BILINGUAL sports station. now, that would be entertaining. I can imagine all kinds of on-air fistfights and arguments.

      2.6% taken from:
      http://www.bbm.ca/_documents/radio_market_ratings/march_7_2013/Top_Line_Radio_Reports_-_Montreal_03-07-2013.pdf

      • DDO_Habs_Fan says:

        Thanks for the clarification on CKAC. It shows that radio regulation has gone too far. If you believe that TSN690 is not viable, then let them go out of business. Don’t we still live in a capitalistic economic system? The government has overstepped their bounds in this industry. Also, don’t forget that the industry has changed in a major way since the advent of the internet. There are also online listeners as well to consider. As our communication becomes more and more global due to technology, these issues will get more complicated.

        “You’re always, always, always looking to make your team better. Always.”- Marc Bergevin

      • BJ says:

        I do miss the CKAC entertainment value. Too bad it had to go. What they’ve replaced it with is a total bore.

  60. Sportfan says:

    Man Promoting takes forever, if you like video games check out my part 2 to the Saboteur blog I wrote :D If not check out my other stuff :P

    http://nickolaisblog.wordpress.com/2013/03/07/the-saboteur-part-deux-someone-make-a-second-game/

  61. WindsorHab-10 says:

    People enjoy violence & watching others suffer. That’s the reality of the world we live in today. Morality & respect have been tossed out the window.

  62. myron.selby says:

    I think that over time Galchenyuk will prove to have more upside, but I gotta say I love Gallagher (in a manly platonic way of course).

    I like everything about him. I like that he refuses to be intimidated by anyone and continually goes to the dirty areas – anything to help his team score. I like his speed and hockey sense and his quick release and opportunism – if there is the slightest opening he’s on it, and often creates those openings where very few other players could.

    As much as anything I like the joy and zest he plays and lives with. He loves what he does and it shows.

    I can’t believe that people compare him to Marchand. They are both small and play hard but that’s where the similarity ends. Marchand is a diver. He plays dirty as his default setting – a vicious little swine who is continually looking for opportunities to injure opponents. He has zero honor. In other words he’s a Boston Bruin where Gallagher is a Montreal Canadien.

    • Curtis O Habs says:

      I see allot of Dougy Gilmour in our boy Gallagher. I`m sure that`s a better comparison.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        A few others have given the same comparison and I am in complete agreement. But then TSN goes and does a special of Kadri and claims that he resembles Gilmour. I don’t see much part of Kadri’s game that reminds me of Gilmour, but Toronto must have heard that we Habs were talking about Gallagher as Killer.

        • Curtis O Habs says:

          I don`t see that connection either. Square peg, round hole.

        • Curtis O Habs says:

          I see a guy at Walmart in Burlington from time to time, fully decked out in Hab swag. Drives a van also fully decked out in Hab swag. Could it be you?

          • HabinBurlington says:

            No, not me. I have the discreet Hab floor mats, air freshener and a small sticker on my truck window. Of course most days I am in a Habs ball cap. CHeers Curtis!

          • frontenac1 says:

            Hey Burly, My wife says my truck stinks.Where can I get one of those Habs air fresheners and will it cut through the cigar smell?

          • HabinBurlington says:

            I’ll keep my eyes peeled for when i see them again. As for cutting through the cigar smell, well good luck with that! Does she say the truck smells only when your in the truck or even when your not in it? :)

  63. frontenac1 says:

    Big game tonight amigos but beware of wounded animals! While the Canes have some key guys out , Gleason will be back. I’m worried about Prust having to take on Heavyweights every game. I am glad that Marc and his staff are looking for a decent heavyweight to help him out, but we should have gone after McGratton instead of Sestito. Here”s why. Saludos!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFpQBwx0J4Y

    • 2mins4lookinsooogood says:

      Frontenac, I appreciate that you respect differning opions and I post this in the same spirit.

      If you get McGratton he fights the other team’s fighter and takes up a roster spot. Think of the Toronto game – Orr, McClaren and Brown start the game looking for fights … the Habs say no and play their game.

      Prust doesn’t have to fight – he chooses when he WANTS to fight and that is a big difference between one shift heavyweight fighters

      “Don’t crush that dwarf Alex Henry, hand me the pliers”

      • frontenac1 says:

        Public debate and discourse should always be civilized amigo. Rude and abusive behavior should be restricted to the bedroom. At least that”s what is directed at me frequently,and I accept it as inevitable.

  64. SmartDog says:

    Re: Brandon Prust

    IMHO, Prust is so valuable as a player he’s another guy we should bring in a fighter to protect. He makes any line better with his physical play and puck protection. He draws attention and opens up ice. Which is why he leads the team in plus-minus.

    ————————————-
    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  65. bellcentre hotdog says:

    I’ve gone back and forth on the issue of fighting in hockey.

    And now my question is this: What kind of league sets out to eliminate ‘head shots’ and ‘targeting the head’ … and yet at the same time endorses fighting in which the whole point is targeting the head? Repeatedly.

    It makes no sense.

    • jmsheehy19 says:

      I’ve wanted it gone for years. But before that can happen, the league has to take disciplinary action seriously to protect the players.

      Suspensions have to be severe, and cheap shots have to result in an automatic ejection from the game.

      Even with International hockey as a successful template, the league (and some fans) don’t believe the game can exist without fighting.

    • DorvalTony says:

      On the contrary.

      Fighting is a safety valve to prevent stickwork – and street justice to protect stars players, goalies and less physical players. Makes perfect sense. You wouldn’t want John Ferguson or Bob Probert on your team? How have our Smurfs done in the playoffs without an enforcer post-Nilan? (Excluding the Halak run in 2010.)

      “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”
      William F. Buckley, Jr.

      • bellcentre hotdog says:

        I get why teams need guys like Dave Semenko.

        It’s the reality of today’s NHL.

        But why are guys like Dave Semenko not invited to the Canadian Olympic team? Or any other Olympic team? I guess it boils down to the type of game … or product you want for your customers … or fans.

        • Habsrule1 says:

          They barely check in those tournaments. No need to protect your players.

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  66. issie74 says:

    Time the league Stopped The Insanity,

    McLaren after his knockout last night,

    I was just trying to give my team a boost (his words)

    So this is how Randy Carlyle see it (I just wish the trainers would get in there sooner) his words.

    Oh Please!!!

    NorthTOHab

    • WindsorHab-10 says:

      Randy Carlyle is an idiot. Broad-street style hockey. Look at the year he won the cup with Anaheim. They lead the league in major penalties & fighting. He thrives on that & so do his teams.

    • SmartDog says:

      Carlyle showed how ignorant he is by saying “I could only think the trainers need to get there faster”.

      The damage is already done – as if a trainer is going to heal the guy by getting out there a few seconds faster. Someone should punch Carlyle in the head – with trainers standing right there to help him afterwards.

      ————————————-
      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  67. jew4jah says:

    fighting is a part of hockey and i hope it always will be. hockey is a dangerous aggressive sport.
    i’m talking about adults. above the age of 18. the same group of adults we send overseas to “protect” people,with guns.
    so if two guys want to fight, it’s their choice. it just so happens to excite the reptilian portion of my neanderthal brain too.
    what’s next? take the fighting out of UFC because an athlete might get hurt?
    and i don’t care about your kids, i’ve been watching hockey since i was a kid. loved every minute of it.

    chara = חרה

    • issie74 says:

      I understand two players angry and getting into it,but staged with one guy who will not play more than 3 minutes. Dumb!

      NorthTOHab

      • jew4jah says:

        i agree, totally dumb.
        not all fights are good, not all goals are beauts.
        without dumb in hockey, there’d be no bruins.

        maybe next we should petition for a the league to implement a height requirement for the nhl. say good bye to capt g &.&
        and segue into galligher.
        that kid is fun to watch. the whole team is fun to watch this year.

        chara = חרה

    • Danno says:

      Fighting in hockey is wrong. War is wrong too. Exciting the reptilian portion of your neanderthal brain is no excuse for maiming and murdering people.

      ________________________________________

      “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

      http://dennis-kane.com/

      • jew4jah says:

        of course war is wrong. i don’t condone it for a second. however, we live in a society that allows grown men, by their own definition above the age of 18 or in other words age of consent, to do atrocious things in the name of freedom, god or whatever reason their idealistic compass guides them to believe that murder can somehow be justified.
        so letting a couple of jocks punch it out on the ice for a bit doesn’t seem like that big a deal to me.

        chara = חרה

    • bwoar says:

      I don’t want to see fighting taken out of hockey, but I when I see comments that it’s there to “excite the reptilian portion of [your] neanderthal brain” I question whether it ought to be there at all. There’s plenty of UFC, boxing, televised martial arts and awesome Clint Eastwood movies out there to satisfy anyone’s desire for a little beat-em-up – mine included. I’d rather watch a hockey game 99.9% of the time.

      I don’t think the *most vocal* proponents of fighting in hockey are the people the sport should cater to. The NHL shouldn’t be selling the game to the most primitive people in North America, i.e. bloodlusting half-men, half-boy white-bread troglodytes with no care for anyone other than themselves.

      “thoroughbred”

      • jew4jah says:

        i don’t want to be “sold” anything.

        if we can learn one thing, it’s that different people enjoy different aspects of the game we ALL love for different reasons.

        chara = חרה

    • myron.selby says:

      The great thing about humans is that we evolve. Our behaviour becomes more civilized over time. We no longer have human sacrifices or have people fight to the death in arenas for entertainment.

      This is just one more place where we have to move to a higher type of conduct. Bare knuckle fighting appeals to the basest part of humans. It will eventually be removed from hockey, it’s just a question of when. Will it before someone gets killed on ice or afterwards? I don’t know but I’m sure that even if/when someone does get killed or paralysed from a hockey fight there will be people who will defend it by saying that the 2 fighters had a choice, that nobody forced them to fight. Well perhaps we need to remove that choice.

      I find it interesting that your handle suggests some type of spiritual sensibility, which seems to be completely contradicted by your stance on this issue.

      • jew4jah says:

        yes, now we kill in a more civilized manner. with drones, sir.
        no more blood under the fingernails for our boys, ahem, men.
        i live in israel. i am surrounded by violence. i’m 43, i haven’t thrown a punch at someone since the age of 14, let alone own a gun.
        but i will say that i am with the masses on this one, but i have found the balls to admit it. not too many sheeple turn away from a fight. we’re hardwired that way. but, personally, it doesn’t manifest itself in a violent way. entertainment baby. this is hockey not war.
        it’s a private property issue. the private property in question being the person’s body.
        next you’re going to tell me that some plants should be illegal.

        chara = חרה

        • Danno says:

          You are surrounded by violence because of the injustices inflicted on the Palestinian people. Violence and aggression solves nothing. It only aggravates the situation and escalates tensions.

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          “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

          http://dennis-kane.com/

          • jew4jah says:

            wtf are you talking about?
            definitely not hockey.

            chara = חרה

          • Danno says:

            Pardon me, but you’re the one who started talking about living in Israel and being surrounded by violence as a way to justify fighting in hockey my friend

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            “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

            http://dennis-kane.com/

          • BJ says:

            Big points Danno, I agree on your comment re. Palestine. The real history of Israhell is not a pretty one nor one I support. Go Habs Go (to keep to hockey).

        • myron.selby says:

          I don’t even want to get started on the Israel/Palestine question, absolutely the wrong forum.

          But if you want to discuss whether certain behaviours should be illegal even if the participants are willing adults, I think you’re on thin ice.

          Laws have clearly been made for years to prevent harmful behaviour regardless of whether the participants are willing or not. Fighting is one area where this clearly happens as is prostitution.

          And the argument makes about as much sense to claim private property in either case.

          I really think that you need to change your handle – you’re flying a false flag.

          • jew4jah says:

            i think prostitution should be legal, pimping not. it’s about choice and regulating the laws that protect freedoms not inhibit them. the ridiculous language laws in quebec are a fine example. (just to add another log to this fire)

            btw, prostitution is completely legal if someone’s filming it, it’s called porn.

            chara = חרה

    • Phil C says:

      Fighting is integral to MMA, it has little to do with hockey, especially at the most elite level, just look at the Olympics. Fighting is a sideshow to hockey, always has been since 1922. A respect your opinion to like fighting, you are in the majority, but you are fooling yourself if you think it is neccessary part of the game.

  68. HAB - Have A Beer says:

    About tonight’s game. Habs are the better team. If they come to play like they are. We’ll come away with 2-points. If they don’t. it will be another Islanders game a loss. Have to wait and see I guess.

  69. habsguy says:

    Ian, 100% agree with what you have to say.
    As long as we have the Don Cherry and Mike Milburys in the world hockey will be played with intimidation and violence. Saying we need a (goon) sitting on the end of the bench keeps the other team honest is just plain old stupid, every team has one, having Chara and the rest of his posse didn’t stop Emelin from hitting anyone in the bruin game with a good clean hit, the same as it hasn’t stopped the Cookes of the league from taking out someones knee.
    Why can’t everyone be honest, if you want to stop the career ending head shots, slew footing, head into the board hits, or anything else deemed as intent to injure, its simple, don’t give the offender the privilege of making millions of dollars playing this awesome game.
    More often than not it’s a repeat offender, how many players in the league have been suspended 3 or 4 times for doing the same !@#$.
    Kick them out of the NHL….

    As far as head/face protection, make visors, or even full face protection mandatory, then have players who don”t want to wear it, sign a waiver saying they understand that if they get injured where protection would have prevented it, they don’t get paid…

    • The Cat says:

      Im not sure I have sympathy for the players. You can blame Milbury, Cherry but its the players union that chooses the status quo.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • B says:

      Making full face protection mandatory is half way there. Next, add and strictly enforce very severe fines and penalties for removing your helmet with full face protection, that should take the steam out of staged fights.

      –Go Habs Go!–

  70. SmartDog says:

    Below Ed made a post about the Hawks and how they were able to rebuild after winning the cup by hanging on to the right handful of core players*. For the Habs, I think most of us could agree on 4 core building block players in Price, Subban, Galchenyuk, and Patches. What other 4 would you add? For me it’s Plekanec, Gallagher, Prust…. and Eller. Six of these are in the first 5 years of their NHL career, four of them are just getting started in what they can do… (and that includes Eller who I am sure many will replace with Gorges or someone else).

    (*Of course it helps if you pick high in the draft for a couple of years and then Hossa decides to join your ship.)

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    • Phil C says:

      Not much argument about your first four. I think you need to build from the net out, so Markov is still very important to this team. Hopefully Beaulieau will be capable of filling Markov’s role in a few years when Markov starts to fade.

      • HabsFanInTampa says:

        I like Markov as much as the next fan. But Markov has already “started” to fade. I wouldn’t include him as a “keeper” if I were to retain only 2 D-men from our roster. I would keep Subban and Gorges or Emelin.

        • SmartDog says:

          I agree. Markov doesn’t seem like a building block for the future. As a guy to show others how it’s done, sure. But it’s those other guys who we’re going to have to rely on.

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    • Habsrule1 says:

      I agree with your first 4 for sure. I love your next 4, but I still see Plekanec & Eller (grudgingly) as expendable if we can get the right return.

      The first 4, along with Gallagher & Prust I would barely consider trading.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  71. Bill H says:

    Fighting will continue until hockey fans stop supporting it. When was the last time you saw hockey fans boo when a fight broke out? Never?

    It seems rather convenient for hockey fans to blame the owner for not enforcing a strict no-fighting rule, when they stand up and cheer whenever a fight breaks out.

    For the record, I would like to see fighting and head shots banned. But the reality is that won’t happen for the foreseeable future because the fans pay to see both.

    • The Cat says:

      Speed is the real culprit of injuries, before you didnt see too many head on collisions at full speed.

      [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • issie74 says:

      I understand two guys fighting,you throw them both in the box to cool off.

      I will never understand the McLarens or Colton Orr of this league on the ice for 3 minutes a game to fight.

      The kid who was knocked out last night was a call up from the AHL, If Mclaren wants to give his team a boost,go with Chara tonight, what are the chances that will happen.

      NorthTOHab

  72. HabFanSince72 says:

    At some point during the Pittsburgh game I had a felling that it was the end of our miracle streak. I saw last year’s team again. Some definite bright spots but overall sloppy play, weak D, indiscipline, and a goalie with an almost eerie ability to give up momentum killers.

    The win against Boston was a wile.e.coyote over the edge moment – we should have lost that game too but somehow we pulled out an undeserved win.

    I might be wrong but I have a premonition that we’re going to be losing a lot of games from now on. When we end up picking 10th instead of 3rd on July 1 2013 we might rue this mirage of a winning streak.

    • adamkennelly says:

      wow…I agree that you can see the old team pop up every so often but more than anything, this team is much better coached, and that will win us enough games to make the playoffs and win a round.

    • mdp2011 says:

      You’re basing all this from one game? The fact is that this is not the same team as last year, not even close. They are better coached, more prepared and have more depth than last year. This is also a team with an entire new coaching staff and new system, with 6 day training camp and hardly no practice time. There will be defensive breakdowns and games like the Pittsburgh game, it’s all part of the process. So instead of whining about a low draft pick, why not enjoy the ride that the season is taking us on and get ready for the playoffs, cause the Habs will make the playoffs.

    • SmartDog says:

      Wow. That’s really depressing.

      I do agree about what we saw in the Pens game. Obviously last year’s ridiculousness is not far in the past, and the team still has many of the same players – so a sort of regression to last years (losing) style can happen. But I don’t think we’ll get stuck there. Therrien’s job is to show the team how they slipped and put them back on track. And I think he’ll keep doing that until they’ve washed those bad habits away.

      Two concerns about this though:
      1. VULNERABILITY. It’s been said that the Pens figured out how to break the Habs D and that the Isles did something similar. Habs need to figure out how to play the same game they were playing but react to this strategy. If they don’t, they’re sure to lose a lot more games.
      2. PRICE. Too much relies on Price’s confidence. When he’s bad, he’s really bad, and when that happens nothing can stop the slide. Not even 6 goals scored by our guys in the Pens game. That’s gotta be a team-wide frustration. But again there are components to that – how does it happen… how does the D react (or over-react and then get out of position). Budaj has played well. I wish they would play him at least 20% of the time. Share the load and have him ready. And pull Price on bad nights. Three goals in the first 30 minutes and he’s out.

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    • Habfan10912 says:

      The defensive lapses we’ve seen the last few games look familiar, eh? I’m not ready to raze the barn quite yet though, Paul. This team seems to play a much different style of game and the addition of the two kids plus Prust and Markov make this team very different then last season.

      • SmartDog says:

        To me there’s a breakdown where guys start running around. It’s largely discipline to stick with the game plan. But also, they need to have the right guys to execute it. Since Diaz went down it’s not quite the same.

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    • HabsFanInTampa says:

      I see glimpses of last year’s team, but sparingly. I think we make the playoffs, due to our fast start of the season. And hopefully go at least 2 rounds in the playoffs.

  73. Phil C says:

    Reading all the posts here, you would think that most on HIO would be against fighting in hockey, yet the poll conducted a few months ago showed something like 80% who support fighting. Even here, fighting is a guilty pleasure for most and those against it are a vocal minority. That’s why it will be so hard for the NHL to ban fighting- because it is so popular.

    I also think the arguments in support of fighting rarely stand up well to criticism, so most don’t try to argue for it. The only argument for fighting in hockey that I accept is that it is entertaining.

    A common argument in support of fighting is that it would cause an increase in other types of violence, ie stickwork or checking. I think the opposite would happen. By making the sport less violent, the culture of hockey would be effected to become less violent in general. There are cameras everywhere now, so it is impossible to get away with dangerous stickwork, so I don’t see how it could get worse. As for bodychecking, they already try to kill each other, so I can’t see it getting worse without fighting. You change the behaviours permitted, and the attitudes will follow.

  74. rhino514 says:

    I only have one observation to make regarding fighting.
    Who is the most popular player on the habs right now?
    That would be Brandon Prust. Prust is loved even by those who hate fighting. If you take fighting out, Prust becomes a marginal player. Sure he isn´t just a meathead, but he´d probably just be able to hang on on the fourth line and be pretty much a non-factor.
    We say fighting should be banned, yet we love guys like Prust. Something to chew on.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Prust becomes marginal without fighting? I’m not so sure. He can play the game.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      You bring up a very fair question Rhino. Problem is that the league as it is presently run requires a player like Prust. And while I know this sounds hyprocritical, at least when he takes a guy on, it is actually for the honourable cause of protecting his teammates. BUt you are indeed correct, that it shouldn’t have to be that way.

      I will also second HF72’s comments, Prust is an excellent forchecker, penalty killer, grinder and responsible winger. I would keep him on my team even if no fighting allowed. Perhaps his wage wouldn’t be as high, but he can play the game.

    • Kooch7800 says:

      Prust is a decent hockey player minus the fighting.

      “Keep your stick on the Ice”

    • Phil C says:

      As long as fighting is a part of the NHL, a team needs a guy like Prust, that is just a pragmatic reality, not an endorsement for fighting in hockey. If they got rid of fighting, many players would no longer be in the league. It is like when they cracked down on clutching and grabbing, a whole slew of big, slow players became obsolete and were quickly out of a job.

    • SmartDog says:

      Prust is popular because:
      1. He will fight so others won’t. He protects our guys.
      2. He’s a strong player who improves any line he’s on.

      That second point is a bit of a revelation, at least to me, but it’s pretty much what we’re seeing. BTW, he leads the Habs in +/-. And that’s not because he knows how to punch a guy.

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  75. Mattyleg says:

    Oh, and that Bell thing is such BS.
    People have to sign petitions to allow it to purchase all the radio-stations in Montreal because it’s going to do it anyway and complains that ‘its hands are tied…?’

    This is such putrid corporate manipulation. The law should be clearer, saying that you can’t buy a station and change its language of operation, for example. The law is there to avoid monopolies, but Bell wants to circumvent that by playing the “poor widdle us” game and getting Anglophones on its side so that it can continue its megalomaniacal practices.

    Pathetic.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Okay, I guess that is what I was getting at in my earlier post. :)

    • Habsrule1 says:

      As long as you sign lol
      Regardless of how evil Bell is, we still deserve English sports talk radio and the employees there deserve to keep their jobs.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • Cal says:

        I wish TSN690 was worth saving, but alas…

        • Mattyleg says:

          (there’s that too…)

          There’s plenty of excellent French-language Habs radio coverage.
          The 98.5 play-by-play is the best I’ve heard in any language. Exciting as hell.

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Habsrule1 says:

            Actually I listen to TSN690 every day, and it is well worth saving, but I guess we’ll have to do it without your signatures.
            I hate Bell, but in my mind, it’s not about that. It’s about saving the station for people who enjoy sports talk in English and also about saving some jobs in Montreal.
            Pretty simple really.

            Go Habs Go!!

            “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

      • Mattyleg says:

        Well then Bell will have to forgo its purchase.

        For Bell to buy the radio station, knowing that it will have to change it, and then blame that change on the law is nonsense. They are the ones to blame, not the laws that are there already.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—


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