Full practice follows optional game

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View from the media gallery Thursday night during warmup for the Canadiens’ forgettable home opener.

OK, I used the above headline in a Tweet. It’s fine to steal from yourself.

Canadiens practice is underway in Brossard, the Colorado Avalanche having cancelled their ice on the second sheet. Fans have gone to work and school; only a handful ringing the glass above the rink.

Jacques Martin’s lines, for this morning: Travis Moen-Scott Gomez- Brian Gionta; Lars Eller-Tomas Plekanec-Erik Cole; Andrei Kostitsyn-David Desharnais-Max Pacioretty; Mathieu Darche-Andeas Engqvist-Aaron Palushaj.

Blueline pairings: Hal Gill-P.K. Subban; Josh Gorges-Raphael Diaz; Alexei Yemelin-Yannick Weber.

Power-play units: Plekanec-Desharnais-Pacioretty-Weber-Subban; Cole-Gomez-Gionta-Emelin-Diaz.

532 Comments

  1. JayBee says:

    Are people seriously comparing AK to Getzlaf? *facepalm*

    • Matt. says:

      That’s what the Canadiens management did at the draft, and they decided that AK was just to good to pass up.

      Big centers… pffft who needs them

      • JayBee says:

        It’s funny. Loved how some posters tried to tear down Getzlaf while propping up AK. “But but AK outscored Getzlaf last year!!!”

        Getzlaf 432GP 419Pts
        AK 329GP 187Pts

        Not to mention he’s a 2-time all star, stanley cup champion and is the captain of the team.

    • AK_PK_Usay says:

      Scouting picked AK, he has been a consisten .55 pt/game player. Yes lower draft picks did better, so? Why hate him for it? Did HE pick us?

      Besides the fact that you’re pointing the blame in the wrong direction, Can you GUARANTEE me that say, Getzlaf would be as good if he played for habs? Cos its not like any of our players that left didn’t play a lot better in other markets.

  2. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …RDS reporting Markov to resume ‘skating with the Team …is this correct, or is He simply going to continue skating on His own ?

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  3. tbovs says:

    Ok sorry to break topic … but I just watched the mansbridge roundtable with elliot friedman Scott bowman CAssie Campbell and mr loves to hear himself talk Ken Dryden. WTF does cassie campbell know about fighting …. I really can’t take her seriously when she talks like she has any idea what these guys who play in the NHL go through. Women’s hockey is great … against either Midget AAA players or other women. She has no idea what it takes to fight …. I haven’t seen anyone in the NHL pull hair yet. Just another reason to hate and question CBC.

    • Duracell3 says:

      Had to look up who you were talking about lol

      +1000000000

    • RJB says:

      That’s a phenomenal and insightful panel. Sorry you thought it was a waste of time. All of them are incredibly intelligent, but also respected.

      Cassie Campbell doesn’t deserve to have her opinion heard? She knows just as much as you do in terms of the NHL, actually I dare say she knows more.

      “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
      – Bilbo Baggins

      • tbovs says:

        So you know my current nhl knowledge now do ya…hmmm…well I guess I know your NHL knowledge too…squat. Cassie Campbell is a nice lookin face cbc put on the panel. Honestly elliot friedman has sniffed more NHL quality hockey than she has. I just don’t think you need to have someone who has no pedigree with the sport in sense your talking about. She comes from a no hitting league where a fight is unheard of and passing opinions that have no meat behind them. I’m sorry but I am of the “educated opinions matter” school. If I listened to my patients tell me what there “opinions” are on there health …. they would all be on comp dying of rare diseases we only see in the 3rd world

        • RJB says:

          Her opinion is just as valid as Friedman’s. You think they just put her on there because she has a “nice lookin face?” I don’t even know what to tell you if you think that.

          “I don’t know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
          – Bilbo Baggins

  4. tbovs says:

    I love JM like the next guy but all this pent up jealousy i mean gawd. Seek therapy for your hidden and repressed love for this Romanian ancestered i.e. count , mountain of man. Strong silent type and says all the right things.

    All I know is that all you who bash him … love him… nuff said.

    Ok in all seriousness…I was hoping fro LR (Larry Robinson) when JM was hired. I really think JM is a great coached…Canada obviously thought so when he helped win gold in 2010 and in 2002. He has the respect of his peers in the game and his players. Its not his fault guys can’t score….do youreally think he is like” Blah … Brian Gionta .. don’t score Blah!!”. Shake your head in shame.

  5. ProHabs says:

    I miss the Habs having a defenceman like Sheldon Souray on the team.

    • Propwash says:

      Oh yeah, he was a real winner. Just look at his career now, all full of accolades and such and such.

    • CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

      I used to like the guy, but I don’t think he (even in his prime) would make this addition of the Habs any better. We have good shots from the D. We don’t have his physicality, but he was a pretty bad defender. We should have been the ones trading garbage for Robyn Regehr, but what can ya do…

      • ProHabs says:

        I would take Souray at 35 years old this year as our number 6 defenceman. He wouldn’t be worse than Spacek and at least would add the much needed toughness.

    • Da Hema says:

      Sheldon Souray?

      You must be very young. On a team that has had defencemen like Doug Harvey, Larry Robinson, Serge Savard, and Chris Chelios the defenceman you evoke is a pylon like Sheldon Souray.

      Perhaps I am getting old and grumpy….

  6. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    It’s covenient, easy, and even popular to jump on the Martin-hating bandwagon, and blame our ‘failure’ of a season on him and the usual suspects like Gomez and our weaklings, but how about a serving of some cold, ugly truth…

    P.K. Subban literally handed the game to the Toronto Maple Leafs, and Brian Gionta handed one to the Flames. Between PK’s terrible D thus far, and Gionta’s boneheaded penalties and fanning on empty net shots like he’s playing whiffleball, I would say these two players combined have cost us AT LEAST one victory for certain.

    If we get even an ACCEPTABLE performance from either one in either game, we are 2-1, not 1-2, and we would not all be sitting here moping. They look rusty. They’ll get better.

    And HEY! The Team of Destiny, the Sabres just lost here tonight to the Canes. I have yet to hear of anyone diving over the Peace Bridge.

    GO BILLS !

    • BMO HAB says:

      JM bothers me totally on these line shuffles. Look at today…..Eller’s on LW again….didn’t he prove last year he’s a Centre for crying out loud. Get him back in the middle so he can do that job he was designed for -> Playmaker. Put Cole/Darche & AK with him and that line is solved. You might even be able to play that line in the #2 slot and put Gomez on the # 3. I mean he is not lighting it up so far. He certainly looks like the 2010 version again. Back to JM, for a “Defensive Genius” – why do we have all of these breakdowns inside our blueline – Repeatedly. Guys running around. Fwds coming back but bypassing guys they should cover and chase the puck instead. WE look like some junior team out there at times with the missed opportunities and the way we can’t get a first pass out of our end to clear the zone. But we have all these guys here supporting him…”the Defensive Genius”. I simply don’t get it. I do understand the other title quite easily….”Offensive Moron”.

      “Reality is purely the perception of the individual mind. It follows, that since no two minds are alike, no two perceptions of reality are alike. It further follows, that what reality is to one, may seem complete madness to someone else”.

      – Yefim Novikov

  7. habs001 says:

    The biggest mistake posters make on this site and i am sure posters on other team sites is elevating their teams players to a much a higher level than they really are…eller,maxpac,dd,white, weber all have potential but basically every team in the nhl has 5 players that they believe have potential…but for now these 5 players have shown some good signs but as of now have accomplished minimal results in the nhl…again most teams can come up with 5 players like this…the veterans on the team we pretty well know what their production will be..the first year players need experience and excpectations are minimal…i believe if the bruins,flyers or leafs had our lineup the posters who think our lineup can win the division would pick those teams as struggling to make the playoffs…lets be real..if gill,diaz,emelin and weber were 4 out of 6 starting d on boston the comments here would shred the bruins d apart…i believe the last 2 years the habs have played to their talent level and probably beyond it…

    • CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

      I agree with your point, but I’ll just take this opportunity to say that I am a huge Weber fan. Not often is it that I spot a prospect and end uo being right about them, but Weber’s shown legitimacy since the 2009 playoff disaster. He was the only guy trying in that series, and it paid off with him earning of the few goals we scored. Unfortunately, we didn’t see him again until last year, but again he paid off in the playoffs. I’m gonna stick with the guy and say he’ll end up with at least 10 goals this year, maybe 15 barring injury. He’s inches away from having three already.

      also, the Vikes suck.
      GO BILLS !

      • habs001 says:

        Weber has looked better and i hope you are right about him..enjoy the bills, the vikes only hope is some good “Luck” but i am sure they will manage to win a few too many games and miss that boat…since their playoff run 2 years ago some the worst decisions made in football by their gm spielman..

        • CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

          They should have been solving their QB problems years ago, but these ridiculous ideas of Favre and TARVARIS JACKSON and now McNabb have them about 5 years off track. They’re so irrelevant Peterson is barely spoken about despite still being likely the best pure runner in the league.
          I’m not trying to rub it in, its just sad. And honestly I think the Bills are good by accident, because our ownership/management has been a joke for years. But if you haven’t heard, the rumor mill says one George Gillette (yes, that George Gillette) may be buying the Bills soon with some of his spoils from the Habs sale. He was a good owner, and if nothing else, re-legitimized the Canadiens.

    • Duracell3 says:

      Couldn’t agree more. We all know who the future stars are, guys waiting in the wings who can score 40 goals are (ala jason blake or something) extremely rare, and even more rarely last to be steady one of a kind players. These are to be good depth players, on a well rounded team (hopefully.) As good as Plekanec and Cammalleri can be at times, this team has 0 true offensive stars. This team plays very defensive with a defensive coach and all of their success has been hinged on the fact that they’ve been fortunate to be so good at the back end. There is a reason we are never picked to own the conference, we simply do not out-skill our opponents most of the time, our great success has come from smothering them where we can and brick walls in net. Hopefully those depth guys pay off in the regular season and can be playoff heroes, but to expect our top 6 to have the firepower and skill of the top team’s is not to live in the real world.

  8. Matt. says:

    Andrei Kostitsyn outscored Ryan Getzlaf last year, and he’s outscoring him again this year.

    • ProHabs says:

      Doesn’t matter. Getzlaf is still great and AK sucks. The Habs without a doubt picked the wrong guy in 2003. With AK, the Habs are a team that every year has to fight for an 8th place playoff spot. If they had picked Richards, Kesler, Getzlaf, Carter, etc. they would be considered without a doubt an elite team every year.

      Picking AK in 2003 has been the difference in the Habs being an elite team or an average team. All the AK defenders are satified with the Habs being an average team.

      • Kennedy says:

        if you think one draft pick in 2003 changed the fate of the habs your nuts ……..

        • ProHabs says:

          With the number of superstars that were drafted in 2003, that one draft did make that big of a difference on the Habs. It was the worst year to make a mistake at the draft table.

          • Kennedy says:

            i agree we didn’t draft the bast man but i don’t think thats why we are not looking so hot thees last few years

          • Matt. says:

            You nailed it…
            Skip the big centre(s) who are available and take the epileptic Belarussian !

            Oh well, at least they didn’t take Hugh Jessiman

        • Matt. says:

          He might be right actually… if the Canadiens draft Carter/Getzlaf, maybe they don’t trade for Gomez and I don’t have to continue to refer to my own team as smurfs

      • tbovs says:

        ur kind of a doorknob eh….Getzlaff isn’t going to win u a cup, neither is AK…how bout the team around them. With Getzlaff you have a 40 goal scorer i.e. bobby ryan … Maurice Richard winner and perrenial point producer with CP (not carey price) and a deep forward group and solid defence.

        We need to get some top 5 pics in the draft to get these franchise players and it ins’t going to happen. So your assesssment is based on over valuing RG and undervaluing the team around him.

        • ProHabs says:

          Getzlaf is a Stanley Cup winner, he was a major part of the Ducks winning the cup. If the Habs ever win the cup, with the way AK plays, he won’t be a major contibutor.
          Getzlaf was not a top 5 pick, he went 19th overall that year. Richards went later as did Kesler and Perry.

    • Duracell3 says:

      Yeah, AK is great, defiantly better than Getzlaf. The guy who had 1 more goal and 32 less assists in 14 more games, clearly the better player. I’m sure Yzerman wished AK was Canadian so he could choose him when he picked Getzlaf for the Olympics.

      But again had Joe Sakic come to us and been the captain instead of Saku, we wouldn’t have won jack$%&( no matter. It isn’t about one player, it’s that this team is only at best slightly above average in depth.

  9. DEANDALLEY says:

    Why can’t Martin get injured & be out for the rest of his contract!

    “Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing”

  10. habstrinifan says:

    OK! Please somebody explain to me, how, when you take everything into consideration with this team… injuries, size, need for developing a stay-at-home calming big defenseman……. how did we lose Jeff Woywitka and how did it improve us losing him.

    I kept driving around all day trying to see the sense in what has happened so far this 2011-2012 season.

    • Sheldon says:

      Management is inept buddy. Not exactly divining the “riddle of the sands.”

      • punkster says:

        And the Circle J continues on off nights here. Never fails.

        I’m just holding out for the moment JM kicks in the Electric Dual Beam Ion Thrusters before I get too worked up. Once this puppy takes off there’ll be nothing stopping it.

        ***Subbang Baby!!!***

      • BMO HAB says:

        You’rre being generous there with that rating….but it would be real nice to have a GM that does have a game plan for this team with respect to: the Draft/Trades/Free Agency. Like is that asking too much of a GM to do instead of this band-aid approach…..with a waiver claim here and there. Where is the vision for this team? When is the last time this team got creative and made some deals like Philly did this summer? Nope we just make those sizzzling 4th Line deals…I’ll trade our 4 Goal Guy for your 3 Goal Guy + 1 stick. Deal!

        “Reality is purely the perception of the individual mind. It follows, that since no two minds are alike, no two perceptions of reality are alike. It further follows, that what reality is to one, may seem complete madness to someone else”.

        – Yefim Novikov

    • SeriousFan09 says:

      And if we were building an AHL team, I’m sure Woywitka would be a calming defencemen for a team. In the NHL? Not so much. Guy had trouble in the pre-season.

      – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
      SF09 on Twitter

  11. habstrinifan says:

    The times… they are changing! Not for JM though.

    He’s gonna insist on his line wizardry! Moen-Gionta-Gomez.

    That oughta make Gionta feel real good.

    But the times are changing.

    If I am to believe Boone’s game blog.. the ‘fan base’ is beginning to take notice… some empty seats.

    Maybe we are having two simultaneous revolutions against fools in their Ivory Towers…. one on Wall Street gainst the Wall Street Barons and one at the Bell Centre against the Canadiens Morons.

  12. WindsorHab-10 says:

    Injuries or not, each player must go out & give 110%. Our leaders need to lead because points lost now may come back & bite us.

    “Hate Bruins like a sickness”

  13. Neutral says:

    HardHabits – Repeat after me, OUR FATHER and you know the rest

  14. HardHabits says:

    Now everybody relax. Take a deep breath. Exhale. Time to meditate. Think singular thoughts. Like Budaj in nets next game.

  15. punkster says:

    Anybody else hear that some Brazilian consortium was interested in buying the Habs?

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  16. Neutral says:

    If erik cole is discontented in Montreal. it’s because we don’t have any Mark Staal’s. if this is true, it was his call. he didn’t have to come to Montreal, suck it up and start playing hockey that’s what he’s getting paid for.

  17. AK_PK_Usay says:

    @ Solomio

    I agree we can’t agree, but saying we don’t live in a civilized society because martial arts exist is very thin indeed.

    The mental anguish and damage that some people cause in very “civilized” manners is more brutal than suffering an injury in a fair contest within the rules of one martial art of another.

    And I doubt spacek wanted to fight, he was assaulted and had to act in self defense, unsuccessful as that may have been.

  18. bobinsask says:

    Kostitsyn is not practicing on one of the PP units? Sometimes the logic of Martin completely escapes me but I am not surprised.

  19. RiverviewCanadien says:

    Worried, not at all. This team is FAR better than the team we had back in 07-08 when they finished 1st in the East. The game last night was a minor glitch in The System.

    I think once they get rolling, they can dominate like they did back then. Jacques is right, Special Teams win or lose hockey games. How good was their PP that season…#1. PK% has increased over the past coupel of seasons, but the PP has decreased. One BIG missing piece because of that drop…Markov.

    Just take a deep breath everyone. Let’s not fire anyone at the moment.

  20. SeriousFan09 says:

    Markov is cleared to practice with the team, wait a minute, all the experts here had me convinced he was months away from even doing that!

    And for the record, MMA like all other bloodsport is not civilized. It is two mercenaries fighting for money, ego and an interest in causing pain in some cases.

    • AK_PK_Usay says:

      While there are a lot of brutes in MMA like ALL contact sports, I find it unfair criticism to view it as a wish to cause pain. That depicts them as vile, where most just wish to make a living to the best they can.

    • AK_PK_Usay says:

      To me a real brute would be Tod Bertuzi, who belongs in jail for assault with intent to injure beyond reasonable doubt.

      AND TEAM CANADA SHOULD BE ASHAMED FOR HAVING HAD HIM ON… then again, they weren’t exactly noble in the super series…

    • VancouverHab says:

      “It is two mercenaries fighting for money, ego and an interest in causing pain in some cases. ”

      So you’ve been to a Faculty meeting in my Department, then?

      • AK_PK_Usay says:

        Hahahaha, nice one.

        I also liked your call to calm and reason, but you knew beforehand this is the wrong place to talk about either of those things.

      • Everlasting1 says:

        Touche.

        ——————————————————————-
        When the Hebrew scouts investigate the Promised Land of Canaan and return to discourage the other Hebrews from entering it..”We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.” [Numbers 13:33]

        “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    • Everlasting1 says:

      It takes the blood-thirsty segment of society to support/fuel such ‘sports’.

      ——————————————————————-
      When the Hebrew scouts investigate the Promised Land of Canaan and return to discourage the other Hebrews from entering it..”We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.” [Numbers 13:33]

      “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  21. showey47 says:

    How the hell does drew carey keep getting his own show?

  22. HardHabits says:

    I think the biggest area of concern for the Habs is their Takeaways versus Giveaways percentage. I wish the NHL tracked the differential per team as well as per player.

    The Habs are currently the worst team in the league in this regard.

    MONTREAL has 33 Giveaways versus 12 Takeaways for a -21
    DALLAS is next with 39 Giveaways versus 21 Takeaways for a -18
    Next is OTTAWA with 39 Giveaways versus 22 Takeaways for a -17

    Dallas however is winning. I haven’t been watching their games but Sheldon Souray leads the team with a +3. I had to read that twice too.

    What I’ve been seeing with the Habs though in the few pre-season games that I have watched and the 3 regular ones so far are lost pitched battles which in many cases became turnovers that have led to chances and goals against coupled with a general lack of any sustained pressure or penetration in the slot or crease area.

    From what I’ve seen in watching hockey for almost 40 years now is that you don’t win many games if you play that kind of a tentative style unless you can make the opponent pay with lethal certitude, either on the PP or the counter attack. I would also think the Habs need to develop strategies to force errors and capitalize on them.

    I see the pattern of instead giving up chances on the power play and committing errors 5 on 5 that burn them.

    • Everlasting1 says:

      “Penetration in the slot or crease area”. Giggitty. http://youtu.be/YWFW0B9EBx0

      ——————————————————————-
      When the Hebrew scouts investigate the Promised Land of Canaan and return to discourage the other Hebrews from entering it..”We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them.” [Numbers 13:33]

      “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

  23. rogieshan says:

    So Erik Cole is downplaying that he is discontent and attributing his slow start to him “feeling out and learning a new system.” My biggest beef, therefore, is why did Martin not play him more during the preseason? Why wait until the games become meaningful to ease him in?

    I’m sorry, but the Three-Phase Plan employed by Martin in training camp this year was a failure.

  24. ProHabs says:

    I think it is becoming obvious that the players have given up on JM and PG. The reason is simple. The high profile players (at least 5 that we know of and probably more) asked management at the end of last year to bring in some protection for the players.

    Instead of trying to accomodate the players, management refused (as if to say fyou) and so now the players are responding with their way of saying fyou by not playing for the coach.

    THere is no doubt that a tough guy or two would be alot more valuable to this team on the fourth line than Engvist or Palushaj are. The fourth line on this team is pathetic.

  25. Neutral says:

    Bill – what I mean by pretending. you come on here with your Bs pretending everything is ok in montreal. why don’t you face facts. so far the team has proven although it has only been 3 games they are no better up front than they were last year and they’re weaker on defence and you want the fans to be ok with this. all I have to say if any fan is ok with the way this team has performed they’re not concerned about winning a cup. after 18 years I’m sick of it. I don’t have a problem with losing some games every team does that, but at least compete. if you went to work and didn’t feel like working how long do you think you’d last, not as long as these guys.

    • Bill J says:

      No, it’s not perfect. But doom and gloom ?

      And even if I do not believe they will contend for the Cup this year, I do believe the near future will return the Cup to it’s rightful home.


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  26. zak says:

    Desimone 2 goals, Masse 1 goal and Naatinen 1 goal. Lawson SO

  27. badbalance says:

    I was at the game yesterday and pretty much called each cole
    Giveaway the moment he touched the puck on thay play they scored on us because of that

  28. Toe Blake says:

    Yada, yada, yada… Who cares? The team’s coaching staff blows donuts. The “Guy” who should be behind the bench coaches the ‘bolts and the dude they listened to, i.e. Kirk Muller, is toiling away in the “A.” Freakin’ brilliant!!! Martin sucks eggs, but let’s be honest, this squad ain’t worth “richard.” Gomez is just a total thief given his salary and the rest of the current lineup can’t score on the pre-Disney 42nd Street. Oh, we’ll all be in the trim when Markov comes back! You have to stop shitting yourselves. He is just one check away from announcing his retirement. Have a nice weekend!

  29. AK_PK_Usay says:

    @ Solomio

    The difference is very simple, it’s about the WHY and not the WHAT, and most people can’t distinguish the two.

    WHY does GSP fight? It is a sport, the rules are to win by TKO, KO, or left to the judges. Anyone interested knows the rules and has a very real choice to “play” the sport.

    Now if you cannot accept that life requires competition, that’s your problem. Competition can be intellectual or physical and they’re both as important and prevalent.

    WHY Hockey fights are happening because in the heat of the action, the players forget what their goal is, to get more pucks in the opposite net than their own. Hockey fights happen, but they are not the purpose of the game of hockey. Proper officiating would have eliminated them long ago.

    As the Asham VS GSP, that is just silly, its apples to oranges.

    • solomio says:

      ak…you’ve lost track of what we’re talkjing about.
      What you are bascially saying here is that because MMA is a sport which requires punching in the face it is civilized whereas hockey which is a sport that does not require a punch in the face, said act, when it happens in a hockey game, is uncivilized.
      Do I understand you correctly?

      “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

      • AK_PK_Usay says:

        Indeed it is.

        In one instance the players know exactly what the rules are and train for it, and by participating assume the consequences of what will happen.

        In the other instance, some players feel ANYTHING goes if it will help win, and often times players will be confronted to a situation they did not train for no signed up for.

        • solomio says:

          Nonsense. First of all enforcers in the NHL DO train to fight and Do know the consequences.
          Second of all hockey players who did not train for or sign up for fighting quite simply don’t fight.
          So I will stand by my statement that there is no difference between a punch in the face by St. Pierre or Aron Asham.
          And you can stand by what ever it is you’re saying.
          Anyway my bottom line was that we do not live in a ” civilized ” society, but of course the statement is relative.
          Peace out.

          “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

  30. JayBee says:

    It still amazes me how some continue to beat the Martin/Gauthier drum.

    For the last time. The Habs need a new philosiphy and new blood from top down or expect the same old same old.

    I wonder if Cole even lasts 2 years here.

    • Bill J says:

      I would love for what Tampa has.

      Straight up Molson, call the Tampa ownership group. Tell em free Molson beer for 10 years in Tampa Bays arena. In return, a GM and Head Coach trade!


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    • AK_PK_Usay says:

      it saddens me to say this, but the problem is that there are a few very distinct group of fans, but all come here with the same goal, to talk to people that share their passion, IN their OWN respective ways…

      but instead each group has to deal with 2/3rds of the people that simply don’t share their view.

      which brings up the “ignore” feature button, one should exist where you could add certain posters to your “ignore” or “like” lists, so that you dont have to scroll to 600 comments to see the comments from members you actually wish to read. it is not a lot to ask, but instead HIO prefers getting an inflated number of posts from redundant arguments.

      • GoGioGo says:

        Well, it would quickly get boring if everyone had the same opinion, wouldn’t it ? Personally, I appreciate reading what everyone has to say, although I do admit there are exceptions (like all the crap that happened between some posters last week).

        But people like me who don’t post often wouldn’t get a lot of “like”s and our posts wouldn’t be read by anyone.

        Anyway, just my two cents.

      • solomio says:

        AK you can actually do that, in a way, by hitting on the avatar of every poster whose comments you want to read and reply to.
        When you do that you will find a list of about 10 recent posts by that person. Don’t know if that satisfies or not.

        “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

    • zak says:

      He has a no trade contract

      • GoGioGo says:

        which doesn’t matter if he wants out of town because he’s had enough of Coach Boring.

        “That’s it, we’re doomed! The season is over!” -Most people on this site, each time the opponent scores. Almost everyone in town, when the opponent takes the lead. At least I wait until we lose our first game.

  31. HabFab says:

    Steve Quailer has obviously finished his school suspension as he has an assist tonight for Northeastern.

  32. HabFab says:

    The Bulldogs are beating the IceDogs 4- 0. DeSimone has his first two AHL goals and Nattinen has his first AHL goal. Trottier has 3 assists.

  33. Mondou6 says:

    I like that most posters here are positive, it makes me feel better about our chances.

    That being said…

    If you look objectively at our roster, which players would the rest of the NHL covet? Which of our players would be automatic starters on most other teams in the league?

    I’ve come up with Price and Subban. For those counting along, that’s “two” players.

    Do all our other players suck? No. No, they don’t. Are they guys that other teams would love to have? Meh…Um, well, I dunno. Not exactly. They’re “ok”, but not difference makers.

    And keep in mind that our two valuable players are a goalie and a defenseman, not exactly inspiring dreams of a 50 goal scorer.

    So yeah, we don’t suck. We are what we are every year: a fringe playoff team. Are we satisfied with that? The 6th-8th playoff seed, and maybe a 50-1 shot to win the Cup? Is that good enough? Because I don’t see any sort of plan or urgency to improve beyond what we are.

    I’m not trying to be negative, I’d love to be optimistic, but I can’t really see any concrete signs that we’re going to get significantly better in the next year or two. We need to acquire quite a few players who have talent above the NHL average. Besides Price and Subban, where are those players? Where are the difference makers?

    • zaq007 says:

      No love for the turtleneck? my opinion the best player on our team

      • GoGioGo says:

        Yeah, what about Pleks ? Maybe he’s not a “game changer” but I’m sure every other team would like to have him. I for one, would have been curious to see how many points he would have got if we had signed Jagr and put them together on a line.

        “That’s it, we’re doomed! The season is over!” -Most people on this site, each time the opponent scores. Almost everyone in town, when the opponent takes the lead. At least I wait until we lose our first game.

    • Bill J says:

      Hey, this year I agree. I’m open minded, and Believe in the near future, with more mature Price & Subban leading a very promising young core.

      I feel a Cup is very possible, within the next 5 years. For some that is not soon enough.


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      Go Habs Go!

    • rogieshan says:

      Remember very few thought much of Sergei Kostitsyn when he was traded, certainly not a top-six forward as he is now. Ditto Matt D’Agostini. Players with offensive potential are being stifled by Martin’s defensive-first system, while marginal guys are inexplicably given precious offensive minutes (e.g., Moen and Darche).

      I think Gallagher, Beaulieu, Tinordi, and Mac Bennett can all become the difference makers you speak of, but whether it happens under this regime is another question.

      • GoGioGo says:

        No need to worry about that. Coach Boring should be long gone by the time that bunch plays in the NHL. And the Goat as well, most probably.

        “That’s it, we’re doomed! The season is over!” -Most people on this site, each time the opponent scores. Almost everyone in town, when the opponent takes the lead. At least I wait until we lose our first game.

  34. kmachabs27 says:

    Can SOMEONE please explain to me why JM is starting these effin line juggles again?? I DONT GET IT….no wonder why we cant score every efffin season….someone explain it to me…

  35. Habanero Gomez says:

    The Good, the Bad, the Ugly and the Reality…

    When this sight first started I looked forward to “tuning in” everyday to share the passion that is “being a Habs fan”…. But seriously, this site can be depressing with all the negativity and quite frankly irrational rants…

    For those who lament the glory days and make statements like “Montreal will never win a cup again”, please consider this:
    When there were 6 teams in the league, the Habs had a 1 in 6 chance of winning the cup each year…. The reality is there is now a 1 in 30 chance each year to win the cup… The odds are not as good just based on this factor alone… The salary cap means that decisions are made as much about the “economics” of the game as they are about hockey… Gone are the days of simply calling up the best player you have available in the minors…

    Anyheew…. One factor that I personally believe puts the Habs at a disadvantage is their insistence on only hiring Francophone coaches and executives… I’m not saying that Francophones are not capable, I’m simply saying that the team should hire the best person for the job regardless of what language they speak… Besides why draw the line at coaches and GMs, why not only draft Francophone players?

    The management team(Gainey) decided that they want to have a fast, skilled team and that is what they have stuck with…. Regardless of the ultimate result, you have to respect that they took a tact and have stuck with it… We have an albeit smallish team, but we are skilled and fast…

    These “fools”, who manage the Habs, whom many here keep saying have no clue, somehow managed to ice a team which includes;
    Carey Price (arguably one of the best goalies in the game);
    PK Subban (will be a start in the league for many years to come);
    MaxPac (going to be a solid player for many years);
    Josh Gorges (wish they would have signed him long term and made him Captain);
    Diaz ( really like this guy, pleasant surprise this year);
    Eller ( he keeps improving and looks like will be a solid player);
    DD ( yes he is small, but so is Marty St. Louis…)
    and so on…

    I know, I know the “Gomez” thing…. It is what it is, and you can only hope that he contributes to the overall success of the team while we are “stuck” with him…

    The Regular season is about a few things;
    1 – it is about making money for the owners
    2 – it is about getting a team to play together, and “gell” or acquire a good chemistry
    3 – it is about the young players improving their games
    4 – it is about the veterans providing stability and mentorship to the young players
    5 – it is about how high you finish in the standings…

    This team is small, but this team is skilled and this team has chemistry and this team has heart…

    It would make me very sad if they don’t make the playoffs, which I don’t think will be an issue… But I don’t care whether they finish 1st or 8th, so long as they are healthy and playing well going into the playoffs…

    There are a number of young, talented guys on this team, including PK, DD, Diaz , Eller, MaxPac and there are going to be some long nights ahead… But having these guys and Price should make you excited that we have some great young talent and a good blend of vets…

    What we need is to be healthy and as most of the hockey pundits have stated recently… there is something about this team when they make the playoffs that makes any team nervous about playing them….

    So let us go back to the numbers above…. There are 30 teams but I personally believe we are in the top 15… So realistically we have a 1 in 15 chance of winning the cup… Not factoring injuries, and terrible reffing etc…

    Last night was not fun, but no night the Habs lose is fun… But the Regulars season is no more than a preparation period for the playoffs that also happens to make money for the owners… But that aside, there is a lot to be excited about with this team… There are as many positives as negatives and we have a decent chance to do very well…

    So all together, let us say a prayer for a healthy Markov knee, that Gomer can keep it together and not get splattered by the fans, that the young exciting players we have keep improving and that we go into the playoff healthy and on a roll…

    Cheers..

    • PrimeTime says:

      How dare you be sane on this site…….Thank you!

    • GoGioGo says:

      Wow. Finally, someone who makes sense. I raise my glass to you, Habanero!

      Errr… did I just agree with someone who posts as Gomez!?!? Just kidding, of course!

      “That’s it, we’re doomed! The season is over!” -Most people on this site, each time the opponent scores. Almost everyone in town, when the opponent takes the lead. At least I wait until we lose our first game.

    • punkster says:

      Absurd…that you could get an account on this site wearing those specially tinted glasses.

      (Please drop by more often)

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  36. Propwash says:

    Anybody listen to K-103 this morning? Around 7:10ish, a bolt of lightning flashed over the station and freaked out the lot of them on the air, pretty funny stuff to wake up to.

  37. The HonestFan says:

    Lack of toughness allows teams to take runs at ‘em. Which increases trips to the clinic.toughness does not equal goon it equals push back.

  38. HardHabits says:

    In other news, Dennis Ritchie, father of Unix and C, dies.

    Mofo you’ll like this one.


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