From Fehr to Fisher

Reports surfaced Wednesday night that former MLB players’ association boss Donald Fehr has been hired by the NHLPA. Nothing has yet to be confirmed, though.

Will Donald Fehr be the NHLPA’s next boss?

More on Fehr from CBC’s Jeff Marek.

The Gazette’s Red Fisher will be inducted into the Quebec Hall of Fame.

Former Hab Brisebois on NASCAR fast track, Dave Stubbs writes.

Ken Holland wasn’t surprised by Habs decision to trade Halak, La Presse reports.

Quebec City needs a new arena before an NHL return, Bettman says.

Canadiens to get more exposure on CBC than the Maple Leafs.


  1. habstrinifan says:

    This is an excellent idea. I am amazed that the Canadiens arent hollering to the league office in favour of it. Basically it is a floating salary cap which takes into consideration jurisdictional tax differences. It does not hurt the jurisdiction because they collect more taxes. It does not hurt the player because he essentially nets out in a salary competitive with any lower taxed region.

    And also the team could justify seeking government ‘investment’ because it is indirectly increasing the tax coffers.

    And it adds one intangible. The fans of that team will have to show their support for higher salaries by supporting the team in all revenue making areas… ticket sales/merchandise/ corporate boxes etc etc.

    Yours is a great idea. Management would have no excuses for not getting free agents to sign with the team.

    Maybe someone with connections like Boone or Todd could take this to PG and to Bettman and Donal Fehr.

    Next Hockey Summit I am getting you accreditation. You can take Brian Burke’s seat.



  2. nunacanadien says:

    Granted sure some of them were injured, that’s a given.  I’m talking about the period leading up to and during the playoffs, where the lack of scoring all but insured the habs would not have the cup this year.  We could have had it if we had a consistent goal scorer to add to Cammy.  I’m not dissing Cammy’s production, but honestly one man to score all the goals?  That’s not the case but really….

  3. nunacanadien says:

    When I commented before about nickle and dime-ing the habs to death with a lot of overpaid players, I am not talking about Gomez, who while he did not score big last year, I am sure had a role to play in our playoff entry along with Halak.  I am talking about the middle of the pack, paying rookies more than they are worth on a new contract, sure we got burnt with Perezhoigin, but honestly, it is not as if Montreal can never sign new rookies.  It is this mindset that we all expect because of taxes, no one wants to play in Quebec.  It is not so much that, it is the acceptance of not negotiating or going after the big names, because hey its Montreal.  That seems to be the modus operandi of Gainey, and I wonder to some extent Gauthier.  Trevor Timmins a few years back echoed this when he said as if Montreal could ever attract a number 1 draft pick anyway, Montreal is just not the place for stars to go of late it seems.  Stars go where they know they can win and be stars they are also attracted to winners.  If we continue to have a leadership mindset in Montreal that thinks no one wants to come to Montreal then that will be the case.

  4. mrhabby says:

    hey dave…i have always had an issue with the grit factor on our team. i have always hoped for some nasty players not stupid but nasty players that will make other players a little scared of the CH. I know the day of the goon has come and gone but seeing canadiens players tossed around and not being able to battle has frustrated me. i like asham he may take the odd dump penalty but he is very tough and i like that.

  5. JD_ says:

    Eat the rich, baby!

    That you, Jack Todd?

  6. thorandresson says:

    I think White will develop to be like Asham, (even similar stature).


    As for Darche, I think a big reason he was signed is cause he knows his role, and won’t complain about being the 13th forward (being scratched).  And he seems to bring a lot of intangibles, they say he was a really good mentor to the kids in Hamilton.

  7. punkster says:

    Ouch there MH…our dear friend Tony (in one of his many guises) put forth the same idea a few nights back, though accompanied by the usual anti-Gainey/Gauthier/Martin spew. General consensus was no if I recall. My points were that Darche works harder and takes fewer dumb penalties. And he has a way better hairdresser obviously.


  8. Exit716 says:

    The real tragedy is the NHL still propping up Phoenix.

    Hello Gary! Why should Montreal subsidize your southern market failures?


  9. mrhabby says:

    could have had asham. would have chosen him over darche in a heart beat. we still have no real tough guy and i mean more nasty grit not a goon.

  10. mrhabby says:

    Bringing in Fehr seems like a good move for the nhlpa. Clearly they need help. That being said all this fear mongoring is just plain stupid. There is no chance in hell another lock out happens..not going to happen for so many reasons that we all know…let the spinning begin.

  11. habstrinifan says:

    Your not so veiled denigration of posters who express concern re Price’s unsigned status is something of a cheapshot.

    Do you mean that ‘everyone’ in the hockey world who has written or ‘wondered’ aloud as to why Price and the team havent come to an agreement is ignorant re the fundamentals of negotiation.


  12. Mr-T says:

    The tax paid by an individual is the same money that our beloved politicians “steal” from us, unless you are referring to something else. Neither percentage number is entirely accurate and I believe the type of tax that you are proposing would not go through.                                 


    Support Carey Price         “Hypocrisy is not a virtue”                                 

  13. LA Loyalist says:

    thank you for posting the info more precisely. All I remembered was the numbers were disconcerting.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  14. HFX-HabFan says:

    Jack Layton = toolbag. 

    I’ll never forget him watching the gold medal hockey game at some restaraunt in Toronto, making sure he was front and centre for the cameras.  When Canada scored a goal, he actually forced someone else’s joyfully-outstretched arms down because they were blocking his face from being seen on camera. 

  15. LA Loyalist says:

    thank you for posting the info more precisely. All I remembered was the numbers were disconcerting.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  16. LA Loyalist says:

    maybe so, but it doesn’t negate the fact that we are softer than St. Viateur bagels when they first come out of the oven.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  17. habstrinifan says:

    Give Subban two months and I think you will have that. It’s hard to forecast players (injuries and character changes) but Subban looks like the real deal. Maybe we have finally found a player who will develop to be worthy of our history.

  18. habstrinifan says:

    Sorry no! Habs are beginning to put together a team for the future and Souray would be money wasted. And besides he is a highly overrated ( maybe not anymore cause his stock has certainly gone down) player.

    He should retire.

  19. adam76 says:

    I thought Jack Layton was a Leaf fan?

  20. Mr-T says:

    The only league Schultz will be playing in this year is the AHL.                                                                         


    Support Carey Price        “Hypocrisy is not a virtue”                                                                        

  21. showey47 says:

    I think brian burke deserves the most credit since he put bryzgalov on waivers.

  22. Mr-T says:

    ” The team paid more in municipal taxes in a year than that of the combined total of 24 based U.S teams.” The player’s are paid in U.S. dollars, therefore a higher Canadian dollar is not cost-effective to them living here in comparison to the United States.                                          


    Support Carey Price         “Hypocrisy is not a virtue”                                          

  23. RGM says:

    That’s missing some stuff – what you have there spells it out but not what it means.

    Josh Gorges for Captain!

  24. novahab says:

    I have to laugh when the media and the rightous stand up and say you can’t spend tax payers money on a new arena. Well I do agree don’t spend more tax payers money just the money out beloved politicians steal from us or the money they give to all their rich friends for business where they invest very little of their own money. 15% of the people in this country owns 85% of the money and they should dam well pay for something. A special tax on all millionares and large company to pay for the new rink in Quebec. All the money they make it time they give something back , the arena will be the pillar of the city and their ads will be all over it.

  25. adamkennelly says:

    Habs need to add a tough guy to their line-up.  Preferably one who can play every day.  That or we better have White and Schultz skating 4th line duties nightly and even that may not do it for the team we now have to face in the East. 



  26. andrewberkshire says:

    I think Bryzgalov deserves more credit than Tippett!

  27. petefleet says:

    Keep in mind that the player would lose a significant amount of the bonus as well.  It probably wouldn’t be any easier to atract players with this method. 

    Go Habs Go

  28. LA Loyalist says:

    Without pulling the numbers I think our W/L with and without Markov was the largest variable. Anyone know for sure?

    If Markov is healthy all year and PK does reasonably well that should up the production up front with the forwards we have.

    Obviously Eller and Puliot have to pull their weight.



    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  29. Exit716 says:

    The NHL needs a CBA where a team like Carolina can’t take $23 million in revenue sharing each year.

    That’s complete and total BS.


  30. LA Loyalist says:

    Yes, you win post of the day – short, hilarious, and from another planet.

    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  31. GrimJim says:

    Sorry but nope. CBA Article 50.1 (a) (i) (U) (3) Hockey Related Revenues:

    The sale or disposition of game-worn, practiceworn and other event-worn or used Player jerseys and/or equipment along with the sale of any other hockey-related items whose value is directly enhanced by an association with a Player’s personality rights;

  32. GrimJim says:

    I’m pretty sure that the league owns the licensing rights to all the merchandising products including player t-shirts and jerseys and that revenue is already included in league-wide revenues that the salary cap is based on. The only exception is when a team produces a new jersey design (like the Flames Heritage Classic jersey). I think that what I heard on Calgary sports radio was that in that case the team gets all the revenue from the first 10 days of sales and then the revenue reverts to the league.

  33. jlot64 says:

    While I agree with you that phenix got older last season it is not that mcuh older then 2 years ago when averaged 25.8 as you say.  The point of the youth movement is to let the youth grow together and suceed.  If they had kept the same roster as 2 years ago the average age today would be 27.8 only a difference of about one year , this one year can easily be explained by the signing of forty year old Lang which was applauded by most in here and rightfully so.  I just don’t really think the numbers prove that Pheonix went away from the youth. 

  34. DavidKB says:

    Sounds great in theory. 

    The first thing that came to mind from a business point of view was a scene in the movie, Jerry McGuire when a pro football player said he couldn’t sign a kid’s trading card because it wasn’t made by the right company. 

    Would players have enough integrity to not turn it into a bit of a circus? 

  35. SensFanSpezza says:

    I think this isn’t allowed under the CBA.  I remember looking into whether owners with other interests, eg. the Molsons, could legally top up a player’s salary for “services rendered” to the owner’s other companies.  For example, if Gionta or Pleks did ads for Molsons products and got so many millions in compensation.  My recollection is that any type of owner or team supplementation of salary is not allowed.

    And, Bettman and his cronies would never look at an idea like yours because a guy like Cammalleri could make hundreds of thousands of dollars on sales of his merchandise, but Lecavalier would only make tens of dollars on his.  No way the league puts their sunbelt sweeties at a disadvantage like that.

  36. pic1983 says:

    I dont think the GM in phoenix deserves credit, I think dave tippett deserves all the credit. 

  37. SeriousFan09 says:

    It’s offset some issues, but we’re still fighting American Markets that offer literally millions of more dollars than we do even when both teams are offering same cash and length.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  38. SeriousFan09 says:

    Our goal scorers missing big chunks of last season surely had nothing to do with that…


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  39. LA Loyalist says:

    Then no, that’s too rich to roll the dice. I agree.

    I love having someone on the point on the powerplay though, that can shoot it hard and low and thread the shot to cause max chaos in front of the net without being a defensive liability.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  40. LA Loyalist says:

    There is also an issue that surfaced a few years ago about municipal taxes that teams pay – Habs (at that time) apparently paid more tax than all the U.S. teams combined.

    Also hasn’t the higher Canadian dollar offset some of our problems from 8-10 years ago? Obviously these issues are complex.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  41. nunacanadien says:

    If you look at the games we lost, we lost a lot of them by very close scores.  Either this means our goal tending is just good enough to lose, or it means our forwards are scoing just enough to lose. It is a combination of the two.  If our leading scorers now cannot get us a winning streak that can get us into a good playoff position at the end of the year, then clearly they need some help.  This is what I am saying.  We need some more goal scorers.

  42. Jordio-oh says:

    are you mental?

  43. SeriousFan09 says:

    What we need is a CBA-enforced salary cap that recognizes differing tax rates and gives teams bonus cushions on their cap spending so they can sign players at the same rate as a team in a US State where the tax rate is half of what it is in Quebec. Our FA signing issues fade away besides the ones who don’t want to play here or are too greedy.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  44. RGM says:

    The $$$ are not performance-based. They’re based on the contract he signed with the Oilers that guarantees him $5.5M per season. After his current deal expires at the end of the 2011-12 season, as an over-35 player he can go on a contract that has performance incentives but even there is no way I would want him on the roster taking away the spot of someone much younger and much more versatile that could do everything Souray does better and without fear of breaking a wrist.

    Josh Gorges for Captain!

  45. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Souray has 2 years left at something like 5.3 mil.

  46. RGM says:

    The “we” you refer to is that portion of the fanbase that doesn’t understand the concept of a negotiation process. The Habs aren’t worried, Price isn’t worried, I’m not worried. Let’s get past this notion of worrying because fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you.

    The notion of moving our “midgets” to the fourth line to concentrate on scoring only underscores just how absurd this post is, and the mentality behind it. Let’s look at some numbers…

    Mike Cammalleri – 5’9″ – 26-24-50

    Brian Gionta – 5’7″ – 28-18-46

    Scott Gomez – 5’11”- 12-47-59

    Tomas Plekanec – 5’11” – 25-45-70

    Andrei Kostitsyn 6’0″ – 15-18-33

    Benoit Pouliot 6’3″ – 17-11-28

    Travis Moen 6’2″ – 8-11-19

    Yes, look at the giants up front and their majestic production numbers! Let’s give them the front line minutes so that our top 4 scorers from last year, who are shrimps, only get 8-10 minutes per night! That will show everybody! Hahahahahaaa!

    Josh Gorges for Captain!

  47. SeriousFan09 says:

    Theoretically yes, but if AK and BP hadn’t been injured, maybe they wouldn’t have lost their groove and the Habs would have pushed into the Cup Finals. Whats If can make a lot of things seem like they’ll happen.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  48. andrewberkshire says:

    That’s a massive difference. Only 4 teams have higher average ages than Phoenix. What’s even more sad is that 2 years ago Phoenix was the 3rd youngest team in the NHL with an average age of 25.8.

  49. LA Loyalist says:

    Would you guys take a chance on Souray (assuming the $ were mostly performance based) and he passed his medical, of course. I’m kind of torn on this one.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  50. SeriousFan09 says:

    We didn’t have any solid goaltending in that final series was what killed us, we had one major advantage going into that series and it evaporated.

    They have a superior team of skaters to almost anyone, but I still say their netminding will do them in like it does every other time.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  51. RGM says:

    That’s a lot of “eewwww” in that rumour.

    Josh Gorges for Captain!

  52. habs-hampton says:

    Never gonna happen. It makes too much sense. The NHL would rather let the Habs struggle to attract players, rather than let them come up with a way to equlaize the tax problem. Better to have Anaheim in the playoffs to help “build the brand” in California, then to have the Habs get in, where the brand is already built.

  53. RGM says:

    Merchandise sales would fall under the same rubric as an endorsement, so no it wouldn’t count against the cap. If it did, the likes of Crosby and Ovy would have their teams in even worse cap hell than they are at present.

    Josh Gorges for Captain!

  54. Joltin Joe says:

    I wasn’t aware they had this already in Football. I wonder how it’s turned out for the franchise and the player ?

    Trying to come up with arguments against the incentive..can’t really come up with any. If CBA doesn’t allow it, there surely must be reasons…guessing owners aren’t crazy with the idea of sharing profits ?


  55. RGM says:

    I could be wrong here but I believe that the players already do get a cut of the official merchandise that is sold with their name on it. My Cammy, Price, and Gorges t-shirts all have the NHL and NHLPA logos on them, which would leave me in that direction that a portion of the proceeds are going to that player. I would think that the same applies to jerseys. This may well be determined by some agreement formula between the League and the PA but certainly all official merchandise sales count towards the NHL’s overall revenue. The more you buy the more the salary cap increases and all of that. 

    Josh Gorges for Captain!

  56. SeriousFan09 says:

    Tavares looked great to start, than he hit a wall and Duchene, I thought he had the better overall season but it was Tyler Myers in the end who won and Jimmy Howard was the 3rd man for the Calder along with Duchene and Myers. Two unknowns to one potential favourite, Calder I find favours the guys with extra development time rather than the guys tossed into the deep end. Last 20 years, only 4 guys aged 18 or 19 have won a Calder.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  57. LA Loyalist says:

    How many jerseys do you think Gomez would sell? Outside of his immediate family, I mean.

    Seriously, it’s not a bad idea. Somehow it won’t happen because as someone pointed out because of the CBA. Several wrinkles for fun, though:

    Jerseys sell in other markets, too, e.g. Ovechkin or Crosby all over the league, not just in their teams markets. How do we handle that?

    Also it would be seen as a way of circumventing the cap – theoretically we pay Price $1.5 million and he earns another $500,000 in SWAG – does the $500k count against the cap?

    What about beer sales? If one player causes the fans to drink more heavily than other players do (i.e. Price, Latendresse, Sergei) do they participate in that revenue?

    Back before players were jillionaires they used to trade on their names for retirement or summer jobs – Eddie Shack always had a christmas tree lot, Dickie Moore obviously did great in equipment rentals, Tim Horton’s donuts (though I believe his wife was the brains behind that, Horton obviously being fairly dead) did great.

    Sadly it’s now virtually impossible to keep the core of a team together. Look at Chicago, not even getting one year to defend their title. How hard are new guys going to fight to defend it compared to the guys that were there?

    We will not see Beliveau again in our lives, and it’s sad. We were damn lucky to have had Saku as long as we did, and I’m still damn mad about that, but let’s not go there, I’m trying to keep this light.

    And then you have guys like Lecavalier that don’t want to be here. He could have come to Mtl if he had really wanted to, but no, he wants to play golf in privacy and not pay taxes. Not everybody has the personality for this place. PK sure seems to, so let’s be happy about that. And Cammy and some of the other guys.

    What would I do if I were the GM of the Montreal Canadiens? I would take the whole team or anyone I was contemplating drafting or trading for to the HHOF, make them sit in the reproduction of the forum dressing room with all those jerseys and the guys that cry get to play for the Habs.

    It’s that simple.


    “To failing hands we’ve passed the torch.”

  58. mike g says:

    I don’t know buddy, well c…

    All I know is if Emery was healthy last year, they beat the Hawks. Emery was having a solid year, and woulda re-signed and been their goaler this year.

    Too bad.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  59. SeriousFan09 says:

    Flyers wouldn’t know goaltending if it bit them in the *** and that’s been the state of affairs since Hextall’s original days there so I doubt they’d even make a good replacement choice. Addressing the issue with a capable goaltending also means a trade of assets which means a loss of depth at D/Forward and whoever’s selling that goaltender will know they have PHI over a barrel for someone who can stop a puck, not unlike Burke trying to buy Top-6 talent in trades, everyone knows he needs it more than they need whatever he’s trying to sell.

    Not anyone in the East can beat the Flyers, but the Flyers will face 3 of the 8 best teams in the East and I’m sure one of them will find a way to sending the Flyers packing if they come at them with Leighton, Boucher or whatever waiver-wire pickup they acquire.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  60. mike g says:

    Tavares and Duchesne were shot into hell holes and did just fine if you ask me.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  61. mike g says:

    Take away goaltending, and Philly still has a far superior team than us….

    That mon ami, nobody can argue it. And as we saw against them last year, goaltending sometimes don’t matter.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  62. slamtherimtim says:

    phoenix avg age 29 colorado 26 , but phoenix should have a decent team

  63. SeriousFan09 says:

    There are other good candidates around the league, Hockey’s Future gave a decent write-up of challengers and there’s always room for the unknowns but I think P.K. has a good advantage over a backup goalie, a guy being sent to the hellhole of the NHL and someone who will not automatically be a 1st-liner in BOS.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  64. mike g says:

    And ur telling me if he sucks the bag, the Flyers won’t make a move to adress it during the season?

    Were talking about the Flyers here, remember. Holmgren loves to trade, and will always find a way to fit someone under the cap. Don’t you worry, if they’re too shaky in the pipes come February, they’ll get a goaler.

    Just don’t sit here and tell me anyone in the East can beat them. We and Halak were the hottest thing to hit the pan since fried chicken last year, and they raped us. Halak went from fire hot to cold as ice, just like that. He went from playoff hero and Conn Smythe runaway champ, to running from Philly.

    Comon guys.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  65. SeriousFan09 says:

    Mike, hate to nitpick accomplishments but They made the Devils look like ****… has that really been hard to do in the last 5 years in the playoffs?

    The Flyers caught the Canadiens gassed from fighting far superior opposition than what they had faced and missing their #1 D-man. I say what happens if the Canadiens had played Devils/Bruins and Flyers had played Capitals/Penguins and lost Pronger along the way. Maybe Habs don’t win, but maybe it becomes a harder contest. The Flyers didn’t have the hardest road to the Conference Final compared to Montreal, taking on two weak offensive teams packing the best D in the East covering up the worst goalie in the Eastern playoffs.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  66. davelecave says:

    Must agree with you there, I would NEVER watch a Habs game on the CBC.  When I want to hear old cranky men complain about the Habs, I watch L’Antichambre!



    Papa Gionta!

  67. mike g says:


    So, just give the Calder to PK now then.

    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  68. andrewberkshire says:

    Colorado I agree with, but Phoenix is not a youth movement. That’s why i’ve been saying their GM getting so much credit last year is absolute crap. Say what you want about Gretz, but he was trying to bring the youth up in Phoenix together and establish a core of a team that would be like the Blackhawks. Phoenix destroyed that last year, acquired a bunch of vets and sent their young players back to the AHL or to other teams.

  69. mike g says:

    Dude, go back and watch some games of last years playoffs please…

    I don’t wanna argue with you, but the Flyers were one of the most injury plagued teams all year. Once they all got healthy, they went into the playoffs and smashed everyone. They made the Devils look like shit, and made us cry for a forward over 5 foot 6.

    And btw, they got better this year. They adressed their need for a 5 and 6 defenseman, traded Gagne who plays 20 games per year in order to make room for JVR, etc…

    I just love how Habs fans think they know everything about every other team. Just cuz Philly eliminated us doesn’t mean they got lucky or they suck. Watch some games of other teams before making a bunch of comments.

    I love the Habs more than any other team, but it doesn’t take away the fact that I still have to be honest as a hockey fan.


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  70. SeriousFan09 says:

    Bernier will only get the starts if Quick really falters in nets, LA has the benefit of a Price/Halak situation for the next couple of years so they won’t feel pressured to have Bernier play half the games or more and a Calder-nominee goalie needs lots of starts to get attention. Price put in 41 games and he still couldn’t get his name on the top-3 ballot in 2008, I doubt Bernier will crack 30+.

    Hall still has to play in EDM and that franchise is a hellhole with another new coach, a hack defence and a comedy routine in nets. Calder nomination won’t be a cakewalk and Seguin, well he has to earn his spot on a loaded lineup and Boston may give him reduced minutes with their lineup.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  71. SeriousFan09 says:

    Leighton only played half the games the Flyers actually faced in the playoffs last season. He’s a fraud, he let in the worst Cup-winning goal that has been scored since I’ve been born I’m pretty sure and he’ll let in plenty more like that next season.

    They have the best defence in the East, but the best duct tape in the world can’t cover up the fact that you have a gaping hole on the roof of your car. Leighton is a hack, someone will break him and the Flyers will exit the earlier rounds because of him.

    Great forwards, great defence but I wouldn’t take Leighton into the Calder Cup Playoffs and that’s my sticking point. I don’t see Leighton lasting through 3 best-of-7 series before someone exposes him for what he is.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

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