Frankie the Bull gives back

Francis Bouillon grew up in Montreal’s tough Hochelaga-Maisonneuve district and benefited from the sports programs offered by Usine 51, a former factory turned into a youth centre.

When Les Jeunes sportifs d’Hochelaga faced bankruptcy and the loss of the building, Bouillon and two partners stepped up to the plate to save the sports organization.

Richard Labbé has the story in La Presse

Hope for HNIC? (Thanks, nightmare_49)

Ugliest players of the last 20 years: (Guess which two ex-Habs make the list)

• What’s next for Mario Tremblay?

• Hockey News has a story on Eustace King, the only African-American NHL player agent

Hockey’s biggest contracts (no Canadiens)

• Lightning sign Marc-Antoine Pouliot, who played for Guy Boucher in Rimouski

Boucher hires Wayne Fleming, fires Jim Johnson and Cap Raeder

Sami Salo would get hurt playing poker

• Jim Kelley weighs in on Kovy II

Summer musings from Scott Burnside

And fan careyprice14782 has posted a 2009-’10 highlight mash-up



  1. habstrinifan says:

    Thanks for the link. Lots of surmising in that article. I find it written with lots of spin. Bottom line is there is  a problem. I dont think, as the article suggests, that the terms are set and Gauthier is waiting on a propitious moment to finalise.

  2. Hockey Socks says:

    He won’t sacrifice a year of UFA status.

  3. punkster says:

    Still it’s big bucks to pay for the big “if”. And the “if they truely believe” statement is, I believe, a poor reason for an expensive and/or long term commitment.

    I’ll give you an equally solid “ifs” for not offering big money and long term; “if” he doesn’t produce this season, then the Habs are out peanuts and can trade him for a bag of pucks if need be and “if” he performs well they can make a fair evaluation next year and offer a fair contract then.



  4. HOGGIE says:

    /agreed lets get all Rick Dipietro with him lol

  5. K-hab25 says:

    The post I responded to asked one simple question, do we want a guy like Wheeler on our team, my answer was yes. Do I think it’s plausible, no. You don’t like him and I do. He’s not coming here even if we did have the money, so there really isn’t a reason to discuss this further.

  6. habstrinifan says:

    We may have to pay the PRICE…and we should be ready if we are smart. If this worsens from contract talks to contract hassle to contract dispute I wonder..  <br>
    More informed minds than mine can analyse the CBA and break down why the team has the upper hand here and why we shouldnt worry about this contract because Price, they would say, has no options.
    More righteous minds than mine would be able to detail with vindication the pitfalls created by the pratfall that the GM(S) made in their handling of the ‘goalie situation’ over the last two years or so and rail their outrage.
    More fanatically optimistic minds than mine will no doubt dismiss my concerns and assure us that we will have a happy and resolved Price rearing to go with his newly minted outlook and maturity and halakian work ethic, when the ‘puck is dropped.
    But this unfestlich mind of mine is wary of another season filled with goaltending drama. It is weary with misgivings over the lack of foresight and planning and the dilatorily indecisiveness of management in addressing issues with an opportuned trade or early demotion.
    And so I ask again! Are we ready to PAY the PRICE!
    I would like to think that management is looking at this with all blinders off. And someone, nay some two or some three are sitting around a table and scouring the NHL and drawing up scenarios and player packages combinations so that if there is ANY CHANCE that we are going to start the season with an unhappy and unmotivated PRICE there are solutions being looked at.
    Solutions which show that management is ready to devise, pursue and execeute some transaction(s) which would see us PAY THE PRICE for a good combination of players/draft picks for Mr Price.
    It can be done if it needs to be done and should be done before it MUST be done for only then would it be done well. A task for better minds than mine!

  7. g says:

    YO Boone no thanks for the Ugliest players of the last 20 years-I posted this yesterday


    “Long before I ever wore the jersey, I wore the jersey.” Dryden

  8. kempie says:

    I remember in the late 1980s, I was working at a newspaper in Peterborough and I had the opportunity to interview Mike Ricci about the upcoming NHL draft. He was ranked very high after some incredible seasons with the Petes. So I sat in D1ck Todd’s office and, with the coach watching on to make sure everything was on the level, I talked to this very polite, slightly nervous extremely clean-cut kid. Ricci was selected by the Flyers and had a very respectable NHL career while he slowly morphed into what we see today. I haven’t run into him since and I’m sure he’s a very nice guy but it blows my mind to see him now looking like he could play lead for a Norwegian black metal band. I’m also reminded of a rumour that was floated in the 90s that involved Ricci and Shayne Corson drinking at the Atherly Arms, a scary dumpy strip club in Orillia, then beating a guy to death in the parking lot. At the time it seemed slightly plausible if unlikely. Turned out that the two were drinking in the bar that day and, after they left, one of the patrons collapsed and died. Crazy stuff. Anyway, I digress. I just wish I could have visited the future long enough to grab a copy of this photo to bring back to show the young Mr. Ricci exactly what his future would look like in 2010.

  9. JIMVINNY says:

    It’s too much money for a third liner.  If Macarthur got 2.4 million in arbitration, you can bet that Wheeler’s going to get more, so he’s not in our price range. 

  10. K-hab25 says:

    I don’t consider it wasting away having him play with Eller. I think it would give us potentially 3 lines that are a threat to score. On top of that our top 3 wingers all missed at least 20 games a year ago and I’d rather Eller be a center, than a winger.

  11. K-hab25 says:

    Well unfortunately in the salary cap era it’s how things are generally done. Does it turn out bad sometimes, yes, but that’s why I think you only do it for the guys you truly believe in. If they truly believe Price is going to reach that elite level, than 4 years at 3.75 is a deal. Maybe not this year or even next, but years 3 and 4 when you’d be paying him 5 or 6 mill a year, it would be a steal. Plus worse case he plays poorly this year, there still would be teams willing to take a 23 year old with Price’s talent off of our hands, thinking they can turn him around.

  12. JIMVINNY says:

    I’d have to agree, but what if Pouliot doesn’t struggle?  Then we have a fair bit of salary in Wheeler wasting away on the third or fourth line.  Anyways, if Pouliot does struggle, Eller will have his spot fairly quickly, since Eller is able to play wing as well.

  13. K-hab25 says:

    I actually posted, I’d like to see him next to Eller, then added if Pouliot “struggles” we’d have Wheeler. Personally I think Pouliot and Wheeler are very similar, big, but not physical. Very talented, but inconsistent. I do stand by the opinion that Wheeler would be a good addition to the team especially with AK’s contract ending this year and we did just trade his little brother.

  14. JIMVINNY says:

    You are correct in that there is more to playing physical than hitting, but Wheeler doesn’t do anything physical.  Gionta is more of a physical presence than Wheeler is.  Oh, and Pouliot has 24 goals in 104 NHL game, while Wheeler has 39 goals in 163 games.  Which give them nearly identical .23(Pouliot) and .24(Wheeler) goals per game.  So why are you so quick to give up on Pouliot?

  15. C3P1 says:

    the price signing will totally be set up by the auld signing.  by sigining an old, washed up goalie as the cheap backup for him, PG put himself in a position to be eaten up by price. carey is not going to be yanked around by the management.  but the guy has too much potential to just be allowed to walk away because of money. people hate him for this, that, or the other reason, but the fact of the matter is that he is a kid who has had literally the weight of an entire province and the hope of the greatest north american sports team in history on his shoulders since he was 21. jaro bided his time and waited for the ideal moment, then pounced.  there has never been any pressure on him to perform, so when he did well, he was a hero, and when he was bad, it was the “he’s the backup” excuse.  you cannot expect goaltenders to come in and be incredible in their first years in the NHL, even high draft picks. something that every price hater on this site seems to not realize is that there will NEVER be another patrick roy. ever. you look at fleury, luongo, guys who were not very good their first years in the league because they were young, inexperienced, and had awful teams in front of them. price has excellent technique, he can handle the puck, he’s big, hes a year more confident, and now he does not have someone breathing down his neck, which is when he clearly performs better. 2nd half of 08, nobody on his behind, awesome. first half of 09, nobody on his behind, awesome.  second half of 09 and all of 10, mediocre with good moments in there. this team has much bigger problems than who is in nets, most notably, who is defending said nets. give the man his paycheck and let’s see how he does when he’s the guy for more than a week a time.


    Avon Old Farms: 2007, 2008 & 2010 New England Division I Hockey Champions – #5

  16. punkster says:

    I was going to stay away from this until you got to your last 3 sentences. This is why I am opposed to paying him more than $1.5M on a one year deal. Agreeing to a contract that would guarantee him big bucks and longer term without actually seeing him exhibit that eliteness and take that next step would be foolish. I know, I know, it’s done all the time in pro sports. Doesn’t make it right.


  17. K-hab25 says:

    Only “idiots” don’t have the forsight and vision to save millions by locking up young guys they “believe” in long term, instead of paying through the nose or just watching them leave later.

  18. K-hab25 says:

    It doesn’t matter in negotiations if “the fans stuffed the box.” His #’s were just as good as the other all-stars that year and he allowed the lowest goals against in that game, so he belonged. I do agree post all-star he posted a 3.47 GAA and .890 sv% and that’s awful. The playoffs against the booins, was bad aswell 0-4 with an .880 sv%, same as Halak’s against PHI this year. This year however was not as bad a year as it was made out to be. His .912 sv%, was above average, he just got the majority of his starts in the first 3 months. The team was very inconsistent and injured, Markov and Gionta were out for instance. To top that off he played with Halak, who after mid dec when he was 6-5 with a 2.90 gaa, went on a monster tear and played at a top 5 level. So when he was compared to him, Price’s #’s looked weaker than they were. The kid is a good goalie now, it’s up to him if he’ll be an elite goaltender. Physically he has all the tools, but he’s got to get his mental game on par with his physical game for him to take the next step. As a Habs fan, I hope he does.

  19. Harani says:

    The proof that character and team spirit can bring success is our 2009-2010 Habs and their run to the finals. If everyone is ready to play their heart out for each other and give it their all, I think that is good enough for me. 

    So, to answer your question, no deal on Blake Wheeler.

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  20. K-hab25 says:

    Well I could careless where someone is born or what language they speak. If they can score 40 goals in there first 2 years, I’m interested. He’s 6’5 and there’s more to being physical than just hitting everything that moves. I’m sure AK doesn’t have a high # of hits, but when someone gets in his way, they get ran over. I get what you’re saying, the AK haters that are clamoring for Wheeler are hypocrites and I agree. I just think I’d like Wheeler on the team, the kids got skill and would look good next to Eller or Gomez if Pouliot struggles.

  21. G-Man says:

    All Star vote stuffed by Habs fans. His play since that All Star appearance has been worrisome, to say the least.

  22. G-Man says:

    No bonuses allowed. Not an entry level or over 35 years of age player contract.

    $2 mil because the morons paid $1 mil to Auld.

  23. G-Man says:

    Only idiots pay for “potential”. Pay for results. Paying him too much now sets up a pay too much later and for longer term. Until he shows it, give him a season or 2 at $2mil, seeing as the Habs are stupid enough to pay Auld $1 mil.

  24. punkster says:

    I am serious Bugs. Number 8. The great Ovi’s number. Plus a huge contract. Put the two together and who has bragging rights now? Kovy II…until the next Ruskie with a lights out dangle and lazer shot comes along.


  25. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’m going to carry this over from yesterday with a longer preface because I think it bears relevance.

    Imagine that in 2004, a Russian was drafted with the 5th overall pick by the Phoenix Coyotes. He then hopped the pond and started playing in NA so he could better accilimate to the NA ice surface and game. He ended up spending three years playing NCAA hockey, along the way he played with a Bruins draft pick who was in the same program. After 3 years, he was offered a contract by the Coyotes, but rejected it and instead signed with the Boston Bruins where he was given a extremely generous entry-level deal and to go play with his teammate from college who is also a Bruins player.

    He would then post strong numbers in his rookie season, with 21G and 24A while playing with a team that was flying high, everyone achieving and no one having a hard time, but despite standing 6’5″, this Russian is annoyingly non-physical and puts up only 49 hits. Than the bottom fell out for the Bruins in 09-10, the Russian’s numbers take a tumble, going back to 19G, 20A and falling from +36 to -4 on his differential and throwing 70 hits over the season. His post-season play is also uninspiring, posting 0 points in the 08-09 playoffs for the 8 games he played and 1G, 5A in the 13 games he played in 09-10 with a -6 rating. Now with his weaker numbers, non-physical play and uninspiring post-season stats, he’s filing for salary arbitration with the Bruins.

    Or to put it another way, what if this was exactly what good ‘ol NA-born Blake Wheeler was doing and why would we want anything to do with him?


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  26. punkster says:

    I know it’s low and probably not realistic in a pro sports environment. I have this ongoing distaste for unearned salaries granted in advance or based on potential not just in sports but in all careers. Silly me.


  27. K-hab25 says:

    I agree HH 1.5, is definitely way to low, we’re not talking about a 30 year old journey man, he’s a 22 year old, with 60 w’s and was an all-star in 2009. Whether people like it or not there are very few goalies ever that have done those 2 things by 22, especially in a hockey mad mecca like Montreal. I also agree that comparing him to Halak is legitimate, I just think we disagree on how equal they’ve been. Most people are what have you done lately, but in contract negotiations, lately isn’t the last year as much as your career vs. similar players and like it or not, Price’s #’s are similar to other guys who’ve recently signed 3/4 year deals at 3.25 to 3.75 mill.

  28. Favorite Son says:

    Wow! Dude, that was a joke post…Yikes!

  29. HabFab says:

    Price is not going to take a decrease from last contract’s $2.2 ml per year . So it will be around $3 ml for starters.

    Bonuses are only for entry and over 36 contracts.

  30. homerbowen says:

    I would like to lock him up for 5 yrs @ 1.5 – 2 – 2.5 – 2.5 – 3

  31. j2c says:

    Well there obviously is some kind of hold-up happening, but I think it has more to do with term then the actual yearly salary. I doubt Gauther would let negotiations tern “sour” or “dicey” with the future of our franchise and goaltending, which is what he basically proclaimed Price by trading away Halak. I think we will see a deal soon…hopefully.

  32. homerbowen says:

    Hopefully HNIC will douse Don Cherry because he’s outdated and simply a Laff cheerleader. He always has something to say about the Laffs even when they don’t make the playoffs. It’s time for CBC to get with it and move him out rather than wait for him to make some stupid, ignorant, racist remark that will force them to fire him. Now is the time….get rid of him.

    Last season I signed up for RDS (I can’t speak french) just to watch the Habs and even on Saturdays I found myself migrating to RDS over the CBC mostly because of Cherry’s constant Laff cheerleading. I plan to continue with RDS this season and I actually hope they hire Mario Tremblay (my favorite Hab years back when he enjoyed punching out Bruins).

  33. Hockey Socks says:

    Here’s my armchair GM offer to price.


    4 years, 9 million dollars.

    1.5 – 1.5 – 3 – 3

  34. K-hab25 says:

    Overdramatise much!! If Halak, with similar career #’s, gets 4 years at 3.75, why not Price? I know Halak was the #1 from March on, but Price was the #1 in that tandem for over 2 years. Now I’m not saying he should get that much, I think STL overpayed Halak, but from what they’ve accomplished so far and Price being 2 years younger, I could see him getting something similar. This is the Habs though and they generally give one year deals to young guys, so I see a 1 year deal around 1.8 to 2.0 mill.

  35. Hockey Socks says:

    So basically Price signs tomorrow.

  36. Mike Boone says:

    Your wish is my command

  37. Bugs says:

    This is serious business, Brewster. My sources said we could get Kovy II. Don’t wanna upset the dynamic right now.

    Besides, O’B shoulda taken num8. Takin 20 was a mistake. Shoulda been 8. “I’m the new Komo; deal with it.”

    Same way Gomie done gone did for Saku.

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assitant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory:

  38. nightmare_49 says:

    Steve – Nobody can deny your line ”  I keep saying this “. Everybody believe’s it.




     … in the entry draft in 2003 if we had ……….. SK24.

  39. HardHabits says:

    1.5 million is too low IMHHO and guaging his salary in the context of Halak’s is a very valid point.

    I think he should get no more than 2.25 million for 2 years, with bonuses, like if he wins X amount of games and does well in the playoffs etc that would bring iot no higher than 3.75 million. Maybe put in a “if you win the Calder Trophy” clause it goes to like 4.25 million.

  40. punkster says:

    Here we go again with the Price/Halak crap. This bit of info should get the opposing camps fired up yet again.

    I repeat my many previous posts on this subject: $1.5M for one year.


  41. K-hab25 says:

    As I posted below, it depends on the length of the deal. If it’s a 1 year deal, I’d say 1.8 to 2.0 mill, 2 year deal, 2.3 to 2.5 mill and a 3 or 4 year deal, 2.8 to 3.2 mill. I don’t believe Price or the team want a deal any longer then 3 or 4 years, so I’ll not speculate on anything 5 years or longer. We’re not dealing with Kovy II. 🙂

  42. HardHabits says:

    If Price gets 3.75 million for 4 years there’s going to be rioting in the streets of Montreal, if not pseudo-rioting on the pages of RDS.

    What’s the holdup on Price’s contract?

  43. punkster says:

    A bit too much? Quoting facebook messages is a bit too much Harani. Not up to your usual standards.


  44. nightmare_49 says:

        by Todd Cordell / Bleacher Report

       NHL Buzz: Saturday, July 24th

  45. Harani says:

    On the rumour that Price’s agent wants to get him at least 3.15, Eklund “reports” today that talks are getting “dicey”.

    Here’s his post:

    It’s going nowhere fast here…I am hearing, for the first time, talks are getting a bit “dicey.” The Canadiens are in an odd position here having moved Halak prior to signing Price. I am curious what you folks in Montreal think? How much would you pay Price, and for how long?È

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  46. punkster says:

    I said this on the other thread Bugs. Use your contacts and get Gauthier to offer him sweater number 8. That should do it.


  47. nightmare_49 says:

       The CBA, Cost Certainty & Why the NHL owners are Shooting themselves in the foot / by Steven Ovadia / PuckUpdate


    The CBA expires in September 2011. We’ll see what kind of case the NHL and its players make in the negotiations. But it’s certainly interesting that the biggest enemy to cost certainty in the NHL seems to be a handful of particularly wealthy owners.

    The last lockout pitted owners against players. I’m wondering if the next lockout will be owner-on-owner. 

  48. K-hab25 says:

    Actually I think it’s true, to an extent. I’ve been of the opinion that the team probably wants to get him locked up for 3 or 4 years at a low rate, 2 mill or so. While Price’s agent probably wants over 3 mill a year if his client is going to be locked up that long. I feel they’ll probably agree to a 2 year deal at 2.5 mill or a 1 year deal around 2 mill. People have to realise the longer the contract, the more it will cost per year. You’re paying for potential, something the Habs seem to never do, which is why we always sign our young players to 1 year deals. Not sure I like that strategy, because it leaves you susceptible to big years, like Pleks, then you risk losing the player if you don’t pay through the nose to keep them. If you really believe in a player, pay him good now, because if you’re right and you didn’t lock him up, you’ll be paying alot more later.

  49. fofe510 says:

    How on earth can Alex Ovechkin not make the ten ugliest players list?!  Come on!

  50. GuyDoon says:

    Thank you for that. I don’t know if its from the day my daughters were born but in the last few years, I get emotional at things like that. If only we had won one with the expos, they would still be there.

  51. JIMVINNY says:

    He’s an oiler reject.  If he can’t make that team, he must really suck.  And what do you have against Denmark?

  52. gmd says:

    I have read on a couple of hockey sites that he is looking for at least 3 million a year.

  53. 24 Cups says:

    Bryan – I keep saying this but nobody seems to believe me.  By the end of next season, Steven Stamkos will be the third best player in the league.

  54. G-Man says:

    Right on, SF.


  55. Bugs says:

    Far be it from us to stop the presses whilst in the middle of such a beautiful summer, but, well, here you go:

    Habs in talks with Kovalchuk.

    Crackin but not slackin, the card says

    L.Bugs Potter, esq. Assitant Head Honcho to what goes down in Chinatown, Big Cheese at Flannelcorp Media, and Lead Copy-boy at Habsbros Hard Data Factory:

  56. nightmare_49 says:

       a – It’s Denver Post’s Adrian Dater posts analysis, notes and minutiae on this blog devoted to the Colorado Avalanche and NHL.

  57. SeriousFan09 says:

    It’s a Facebook page, just rumour-mongering because they’re bored I would say.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.

  58. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    Salut Réjean T.!

  59. Harani says:

    I don’t know the source to this but Carey Price’s facebook fanpage just posted a message saying that Carey’s agent wants at least 3.15 million for Price and he isn’t going to budge. And that PG doesn’t want to give that much. So, it’s going to prolly be a short term contract at 1 or 2 years. 

    I don’t know how much merit this story has but nonetheless, I think anything more than 3 is a bit too much for Carey. Thoughts?

    “I gotta feeling…that tonight’s gonna be a good night!”

  60. crabvader says:

    Peux-etre parce qu’on a deja un meilleur Pouliot?

  61. andrewberkshire says:

    Puck Daddy didn’t write the list.

  62. says:

    Puck Daddy is not worth reading, and that link should be removed for the safety of all hockey fans.

    They Call Me Shane

  63. nightmare_49 says:

      Summertime Reading Around the Hockey World / Black Dogs Hate Skunks


  64. Favorite Son says:

    Tanks, le Gros!

  65. OneTimer says:

    Nice. Could use a little more quality Quebecois ’round here once in a while. You get 9/10 only because no self-respecting prof gives out full marks like candy.

  66. Mark C says:

    As a Red Sox fan, I must give my thanks to the Expos for “trading” Petey. He was a real pleasure to watch and maybe the best pitcher ever.  

  67. andrewberkshire says:

    Man, the guy who made that list is border line insane.

    Koivu over Getzlaf? Is there any GM in the league aside from Fletcher who would claim that? Koivu, Thornton over Backstrom and Staal… My mind is blown.

    Then again, his goalies list was equally if not more insane.

  68. Favorite Son says:

    Y’a-tu quelqu’un qui peut me dire pourquoi qu’on a pas signe Marc-Antoine Pouliot??! C’t’un bon gars qui vient d’la Vieille Capitale pis on l’a laisse aller a Tampa avec Guy Boucher, celui qui va ramener l’equipe a Quebec! Mais non! Sont aller chercher un osti de Danois a place calisse! J’etais completement assomme et j’en reviens pas ciboire!


  69. Mattyleg says:


    I JUST watched that, (someone posted it on FB) and got all teary-eyed! Literally!

    I was coming on here to post that, and all Montrealers MUST WATCH THAT.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  70. Castor says:

    Hey Boone!


    Post this:

    I know it’s EXPOS but it’s so emotional.

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