Fractured vertebra for Pacioretty

Canadiens forward Max Pacioretty has suffered a fractured vertebra in his neck.

Head coach Jacques Martin had this update on Wednesday:

“Max
Pacioretty has a severe concussion, as well as a fracture of the
fourth cervical vertebra, but it’s not displaced,” explained Martin.
“Max will remain at the hospital for further observation. There will be
no other prognosis for the time being, but he will obviously be out
indefinitely. The most important thing for our organization right now is
Max’s recovery. We will continue following recommendations from the
doctors and of course, Max and his immediate family would appreciate
privacy in this matter.”

Her Zurkowsky has this update from practice.

495 Comments

  1. shiram says:

    I think this is the worst of times to put some blame on JM. In his press conference you could see that he did not want to be there and asnwer the questions, and I am pretty sure he was furious at the situation, but really, blowing a gasket would not have done any good.

  2. avatar_58 says:

    Jacques Martin is an employee doing as he is told. He can’t just walk out there and say what he wants to. Not every orginization gives their employees freedom to be a jackass on camera ala Torts.

  3. TheDagger says:

    “Yes your honour, I was drunk and shouldn’t have been driving, but I didn’t intend on killing that family”.

    “Oh, well since there was no intent I can’t justify charging you to the full extent. How about I will call you later and we’ll discuss it, maybe you will get a small fine, and lose your license for a few months.”

  4. DrewCareyPriceIsRight says:

    yeah you are right…I think he he shooting for career ending vs. season ending.

    It was a very stupid play and when a play is that moronic, intent should move down a few rungs on the importance scale.  Chara is obviously not a doctor so he could not have predicted how dangerous what he did was, nor did he think how severe a high speed impact with an immovable object can be, but I am sure he does not drive around in his car slamming into brick walls either to find out.  At some point, common sense should kick in and you know something is extremely dangerous and if Chara does not know this yet, well, maybe he should take a lot of time off and go into some sort of councelling until he learns.

  5. adam76 says:

    Again – give me a robot over classless loud mouths.

  6. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    That’s better editing;-)

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  7. PattyBoy31 says:

    My vision was a crazy fan taking a tire iron to one of his knees. But thats just an idea.

  8. PureGuava says:

    This is garbage. That ogre almost kills a kid – one of our top young prospects…and he’s going to get away clean.

  9. Captain aHab says:

    Is that for hockey players who get hit frequently or for ordinary citizens? I somehow doubt that he would come back from this in 3 months.

  10. avatar_58 says:

    What was he supposed to do? In an emergency like that you must remain calm. I could see he was not comfortble at all, he’s just very professional and good at hiding it.

  11. TripleX says:

    Even if you give Chara the benefit of the doubt that he saw the stanchion coming.  To drive a player so hard to break a vertebrae indicates to me an intent to injure.  You can’t convince me that Chara  did not intend to hurt Maxpac.

  12. AndyHabs says:

    i was at the game and enjoying watching the bruins get dominated by smaller faster habs team until zdeno chara decided to try and kill a player… not only did i lose my buzz i lost all interest in the game..,, get better max!!!!!

    Mtl 514 Go habs!!!!

  13. Buster says:

    Why can’t Martin should some freakin’ emotion!?!   I can’t see Tortorella or Laviollette of Ruff reacting this way.

    Get angry for christ’s sakes!!!!  He should have called out Chara and the entire bruins organization.

     

     

    Whooooaa baby!!! WHAT is goin’ on in Pennsylvania!!?

  14. Chorske says:

    I’m trying to think of what the league can do- beyond suspensions- to penalize teams that do this kind of thing. The only things I can think of is permanent banning of players, and loss of first round draft picks. It won’t happen- but when you think of the time and effort Pax and the Habs have spent developing his career, it seems like that is the only penalty that comes close to hurting the offending team enough.

  15. revolutionnumber9 says:

    Erik Cole had a fractured vert on Mar 4, 2006. He didn’t come back until June 17 for Game 6 for the finals.

    This kind of BS has to get eradicated from the game. “This just happens” and “Intent to injure isn’t there” really doesn’t cut it. Who in their right mind would send their kid to play in the NHL?

    I agree with the suggestion to make the ice bigger. Olympic hockey should be the goal. Tough, fast and skilled.

  16. jennifer1984 says:

    poor Patches.

    it’s even trending on twitter.

    i really hope he gets better, everything aside. i couldnt imagine being his parents at the game last night and not being able to run down to the ice.

  17. sidhu says:

    I agree — we should do something, make our voices heard. 

  18. awesomerino says:

    Can someone with a better understanding of medicine explain the potential consequences of a fractured vertebrae?

  19. TheMock780 says:

    Forgetting Chara for a moment, above all else now that Pacioretty and the Habs organization know what they’re dealing with, they have to be smart about the recovery. They can’t rush Max back like the Bruins and Marc Savard did. They have to wait until that vertabrae is totally healed and strong again and until he goes through a LENGTHY period of time where he is free of concussion symptoms.

    Hopefully the Habs, Pacioretty and his family handle his recovery properly unlike teams and players have in the past. As much as we were all excited about his potential to be a dominant forward, his health obviously comes first. I hope that he can come back as the same player that he looked like he could be.

    God speed Max

  20. HabFanSince72 says:

    The Canadiens and Pacioretty need at the minimum to sue Chara, the Bruins and the league for his loss of income.

     

  21. habstrinifan says:

    I agree! No sort of reaction from the Canadiens should be criticised… it is a difficult situation for every Canadien staffer NOW.

    This poor kid gave up his College education and a very satisfying and relaively safe college hockey career to be a Canadien… and now he is in grave danger of his life being affected altogether.

    The NHL has to stop this shame!

     

  22. mrhabby says:

    how much bad luck can this team have…

    iam not expecting chara to get any more than 5 games.

    way to go bruins.

     

  23. PattyBoy31 says:

    If sub-par discipline is handed to Chara I feel like doing something. I’m just not sure what. I feel helpless, angry…. and sympathetic for Pacioretty. I am hopeful he will recover nicely, not for the organization, but for himself first.

  24. TripleX says:

    LOL

     

    I changed it like four times but it kept on coming out in support of Chara.

  25. WindsorHab-10 says:

    The SOB should miss as many games as Max Pac. This league is going down the crapper as long as they have idiots like Don Cherry & Mikle Milburry applauding such hits. Shame on you NHL.

  26. DearyLeary says:

    Phone meeting means 5 games max.  Time to fire up an e-mail campaign.

  27. DearyLeary says:

    Reckless play has to be punishable in such a dangerous environment.  

  28. Bill says:

    So close to quadraplegia or death. Just thank God he’s alive and can still walk. I can’t see him playing hockey anytime soon, which is a tragedy for him. Hope the players have good insurance.

    Lawsuit? I would.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  29. dysonsphere says:

    Luck has abosolutely nothing to do with this, or many injuries in this “game”.  The NHL has to take a good, long, deep look at its culture of disrespect among players and coaches, not to mention comentators (I’m looking at you Don Cherry).

     

  30. adam76 says:

    Chara should get 5 games.   he did not blindside him – or do i believe he intened to end Maxs season.

     

     

  31. CalgaryHabsFan says:

    It wont happen but Chara should be done for season including playoffs.

    Absolutely disgusted right now.

  32. smiler2729 says:

    You’re kidding, right?

    He blindsided him, he rode his elbow into Max and drove him into the turnbuckle (or whatever it’s called) with the same precision as a maniac timing his push of an unsuspecting victim into an oncoming train or bus.

    Ending his season? He more or less has ended Max Pacioretty’s hockey career (broken neck, see Steve Moore).

    Zdeno Chara has officially crossed the line from respected NHL superstar defenceman to dangerous offender, he’s no better than Todd Bertuzzi or Matt Cooke.

  33. sidhu says:

    I am disgusted by this.  Chara does not deserve to play the game. 

    Patches, get well soon bro!

  34. adam76 says:

    So intent should not be a factor?  

  35. Hobie Hansen says:

    If the NHL doesn’t step in and suspend Chara for AT LEAST 10 games, now that the injury to Pacioretty has been revealed, this game is a JOKE!

    We have Matt Cooke running around trying to end people’s careers, line brawls galore the last month and Chara trying to break someone’s neck!

    I love a good NHL fight but all this extra crap going on is getting ridiculous!!!!!

  36. GhostsInTheForum says:

    if the bruins ever visit the halifax metro centre again for a preseason game, i’ll be waiting with a rifle to put that dumb overgrown moose out of it’s misery. i seriously would like to see him dead or at least in a wheelchair the rest of his life with a crushed neck. to heck with any dumb suspension.

  37. HabsFanNorway says:

    Quick search for recovery for that kind of injury it seems at least 3 months. How much bad luck can a team have? Get well soon Max. Looking forward to next season with Markov, Gorges and Max back!

  38. BJ says:

    Boston Globe reports that Chara has just finished his call with the league.

  39. MTLForever says:

    http://i52.tinypic.com/vrv68m.jpg

     

    THIS PHOTO PROVES THAT CHARA FORCED HIS HEAD

  40. Chorske says:

    It’s a nondisplaced fracture (thank God), so there is a chance- a chance- he will play again. It won’t be this year, and may not even be next year. I don’t think Cole had as bad a concussion.

  41. DearyLeary says:

    I hope the league didn’t use any harsh language.  Golly gee Zdeno’s such a swell fella, he shouldn’t be suspended at all.  

    I can’t believe this isn’t going to result in a suspension worth a lick.

  42. Chuck says:

    Ironically, it’s not the fractured vertebrae that could keep Pax from returning to the lineup. The severe concussion could keep him off of skates long after his neck has healed.

  43. TheDagger says:

    Bertuzzi didn’t intend to end Moore’s career either. But it happened and a player needs to pay for his wreckless actions, regardless of what the intent was.

  44. DrewCareyPriceIsRight says:

    think of Bertuzzi’s hit on Moore…

  45. adam76 says:

    he needs to take the rest of the season off.

  46. LA Loyalist says:

    I’ve watched the video like 10 times trying to excuse Chara. I can’t.

    Chara should be gone exactly as long as Pax is gone. Not one minute less.

    I am so sorry for Pax and his family.

     

    “Where the offense is, let the great ax fall.” — William Shakespeare

  47. Buster says:

    Adam, I chose those three coaches because they FIGHT for their team!!!  Jack nearly fell asleep during the press conference

     

     

     

    Whooooaa baby!!! WHAT is goin’ on in Pennsylvania!!?

  48. DearyLeary says:

    Indeed.  I can’t believe the lack of integrity among the media.

  49. shiram says:

    How about responsibility for his actions?

  50. Bill says:

    Kudos to Pat Hickey for being the only media guy so far – I think – to state the obvious fact that Chara knew what he was doing.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  51. adam76 says:

    The three examples you gave are the most classless group of coaches in the NHL.  No thanks.

  52. HabFanSince72 says:

    He intended to hurt him. That’s all the intent needed for a harsh penalty.

     

  53. Captain aHab says:

    JM almost showed emotions last night. Almost. Pierre Boivin did.

  54. TheMock780 says:

    If not more. They need to take this slow

  55. HabFanSince72 says:

    Immediately: damage to the spinal cord, causing anything from no symptoms to complete quadraplegia.

    Long term: Instability of the neck making it impossible to play hockey. Chronic neck pain. Delayed progressive  spinal cord damage due to narrowing of the spinal canal.

    It  depends on how severe the fracture is.

  56. mrhabby says:

    a massive email to bettman.

  57. CanadienFanTrappedinNiagaraFallsNY says:

    Neck fractures sometimes are not nearly as serious as they sound. Lots of variables. The concussion could have a longer recovery time, but three months actually is possible for both. Certainly would not be suited to play hockey though.

  58. mrhabby says:

    here, here. guess they want to keep credentials.

  59. DrewCareyPriceIsRight says:

    Premeditated or not, this should factor into the suspension.  Stupidity and carelessness should not excuse the loss of a young and promising career.  We should not see Chara playing by the time the Habs face the bruins later this month.

  60. Propwash says:

    Chara knew EXACTLY what he was doing when he went after MaxPac. He has been running him ever since the game winning goal and little shove when Chara got in his way.

    An example better be made today, if not than it only re-confirms how inconsistant the powers that be in the NHL are.

  61. LNev says:

    + Koivu’s eye…

    What I remember most about Audette’s injury, was him running to the dressing room and leaping into one of the double doors and hitting the side that was locked.  They should have had a “Please use other door” sign up…

    McCleary’s injury was one of the most upsetting things i have ever seen watching a hockey game.  More then this hit, more then any cut… the sheer powerlessness of a man being unable to breathe…

     

  62. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    excellent comment and spot on.

    Chara should be suspened as long as MAX is out… if his career has ended, then so has that excrements…

    greed always self destructs. This blatant intent to injure is a strike upon all Hab fans and those who have a balanced compassion towards life.

    Chara must be banished.

  63. Habnofear says:

    Hey Justin…SHUT UP !

  64. Thenumber11 says:

    I care about the team, not hockey in general, right now too. The team for me is, and always will be, more than the sport. We’re invested. We watch these guys play a sport we love, wearing a jersey we love. They play a violent sport where bad things can hapen. Some aren’t avoidable, this was. Caring about Max right now more than anything is still caring about the team. Hardest thing to watch. It was terrifying, nothing less. Maybe I’m a puss cause I wince when I see ANY player take an awkward hit, or go down on a knee weird or hit the glass at a bad angle. 80%, or whatever it would be, of the time they’re fine but this is why I always cringe. 

    I never hated Chara before any more than I hate the average bruin. This season he was starting to get on my nerves with how poorly he reacted to a shove, and then how he went after Max in the next games. Last night was just insane. I have no idea if he’ll even be suspended, but I honestly don’t think anything they do to Chara makes me feel the slightest iota better.

    I hope he ends up making a full recovery. I’d hoped we’d see him back come playoff time, but now I just want to see him back at some point.  :(

  65. Mr.Hazard says:

    Excellent point. What bothered me is how Chara doesn’t even look back after the hit, just keeps skating. And yes, Gomez’s face reminded me of one where a father is reprimanding his child, and the child just turns away in shame & denial…

  66. Hobie Hansen says:

    Sorry, distracted with work, had to get that answer in there though…

  67. Habnofear says:

    Jacobs is most certainly Jewish and I will forgive you if you didn’t intend that to come out the way it did….

  68. PattyBoy31 says:

    I’m in

  69. observer says:

    NITWIT- BETTMAN AND JACOBS ARE CLOSE FRIENDS and this suspension or not has great consequence on the bruins you 2 IQ moron. BTW – i forgot more about hockey 30 years ago than you ever will know airbrain!

  70. The Zoo says:

    I remember Trent McCleary taking that Chris Therrien slap shot to the throat. I recall him actually getting off the ice on his on power but collapsing in the hallway to the dressing room, so I don’t think the trachetomy was done on ice. Think he was a forward too.

     

  71. Jonson says:

    trent Mccleary

  72. davelecave says:

    Trent McCleary

  73. Chris says:

    David Mulder is the doctor.

    Trent McCleary (a forward) was the player who needed the emergency tracheotomy.  Other gruesome injuries and life-threatening issues included Koivu’s cancer, Donald Audette’s severed forearm tendons, Brian Savage’s broken neck (in Phoenix, I believe), Zednik’s injuries from the Kyle McLaren hit, Markov’s severed tendon in his foot, Dandenault’s broken arm and now the Pacioretty issue.

    The Habs have seen more than their fair share of these types of injuries.

  74. OneTimer says:

    WTF you two? Why are you even going in that direction? Oh, it’s Habnofear and observer. Right. Mods, why are these two even allowed on this site again?

  75. LA Loyalist says:

    Our doctor is fantastic and thank god it happened at home. Do you guys remember the young defenseman we had in the 90′s who had throat crushed by a shot? Our doctor performed an emergency trachetomy on the ice and saved his life (though his career was done).

    Forgive me for not remembering names, I am not good at names, but our doc is great. Please post add’l info if you remember.

  76. joeybarrie says:

    And there is something about to happen in the world. It would be nice if they told me what it was, instead of simply saying. HEY SOMETHINGS HAPPENING.

    Maybe a little detail as to what is wrong would help…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  77. Hobie Hansen says:

    Wow, that post of yours is completely wrong…

  78. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I have two daughters, they will be dancing, figure skating, swinging golf clubs or baseball bats and kicking field goals. Same goes for any boys we might have.

    No hockey. Look at what happened to my homeboy Ted Stephens over the weekend. And that is at the Junior level.

    The NHL has to be the ones to set the precident, but I fear they tuck their tail between their legs on this one.

    Here are two articles on the WildCats and Titans outcome.

    http://www.canadaeast.com/search/article/1386325
    http://www.canadaeast.com/search/article/1386673

  79. Thurston says:

    If Chara didn’t know where he was on the ice at the time of the hit, he’s even dumber than he looks.

  80. VintageFan says:

    I could have sworn that they got out a defibrillator while Max was lying motionless on the ice.  Can anyone out there confirm or reject that with any certainty?  Because that would mean the Doctor had trouble finding a heartbeat immediately after the impact.

  81. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    The bigoted polorization of this league will now show its ugly dispicable face.  This very unfortunate incident has made the tide go out, and we can see all to clearly the demonic psychosis that has permeated the minds of the agenda driven bastards.

    chara must be suspended for life, he must be fined to the point of financially crippling him for life, the Bruins must also be fined and suspended, along with the owners, the coach and the NHL itself.

    that satanic excrement new exactly what he was doing, he for a moment was evil and acted evil. just for that moment he was insane, his head was up, he knew where he was going, and at the precise moment he intentionally forced MAXPAX into the solid steel pipe, breaking his neck and his ending his career.

    Chara must never play the game of hockey in North America again.

    we are at a cross roads, this incident must cause the great divide and destruction of the bigoted class, the inbreds.

    I cannot compile enough vile towards those who think this was anything but a moment of insanity with blatant intent to injure.

    I cannot understand the bias for Chara from the media, and i cannot wait to hear from the head bigot himself cherry D., because he said on the crosby hit, that the offender didn’t look back, because he knew what he had done, SAME DEAL WITH THE BASTARD…HE DIDN’T LOOK BACK.

    he just kept on skating, HE KNEW WHAT HE DID…. it was what he intended.

    CHARA MUST BE SUSPENDED FOR LIFE … AS WAS MCSORLEY

  82. HalifaxHabs says:

    oh man, I never even thought of it from that angle yet…

  83. Chris says:

    Couldn’t agree more. 

    I hate that particular hit, but this isn’t the first time nor will it be the last time it happens.  That part of the ice is extraordinarily dangerous, and I remain surprised that the NHL has done so very little over the years to address it.  An NHL rink has roughly 550 feet of boards, and there are 4 areas of extreme danger:  the five feet leading up to the ends of the two benches.  Both the attacker and the defender have to know where they are on the rink.  This was one of those fortunately rare cases where both guys either forgot or disregarded where they were and an injury resulted.

    Like you, I hope Pacioretty will get better.  He faces a long and probably frustrating rehabilitation.

  84. Kooch7800 says:

    My wife said the exact same thing when she saw the hit that our kids won’t play hockey.

     

  85. observer says:

    has nothing to do with their religion. i dont even know what jacobs religion is or if he is an atheist. i repeat jacobs is one of bettman’s biggest supporters and i heard that several times over the years on TSN. what in hell are you talking about!

  86. joeybarrie says:

    A few things to think about when deciding the suspension.

    -The Habs play the Bruins again this season. The LAST time we played them there were 150+ penalty minutes. Montreal was not the team to instigate these panalties nor did they start the fights. Boston WANTED to play tht style fo hockey….

    -This time the Habs played the Bruins, AGAIN something HUGE happened. Hopefully the league will try to address this situation.

    -There is a fair chance the Habs will see the Bruins in the playoffs, and how will that go in Montreal if Chara gets 2 games?????? I imagine there will be things raining down on him, cause we ALREADY boo him constantly.

    -MaxPac hit Chara first. However the is obviously now a WORLD of difference between shoving him a bit, open ice, after a goal, and a shove/push right into what can onle be seen in the best of lights as into the boards. This is why you are not allowed to hit after the puc is gone. There are two IRON goals out there, a puck that can travel 100 mph, there are razor sharp skates, hard ice, and a number of other dangerous obstacles and when you make a poor decision like that, you can’t take it back.

    -As far as I know, Chara has never done anything like this before. He seems to be an upstanding hockey player, but of course we want his blood in Montreal.

    -As another poster pointed out the last time  hockey player cause a spinal injury he was suspended for 20 games. However, there were other circumstances involved there including premeditated intent.

    - The idea of suspending this is to try to prevent something like this from happening again. will 5-6 games difference really do anything in the long run to stop this type of thing.

    LASTLY, for God’s sake……..We have already had our fair share if riduculous injuries. PLEASE STOP. Enough is enough. Move on to a different team please.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  87. observer says:

    he will say having that turnbuckle there is sheer idiocy!

  88. Hobie Hansen says:

    If he’s not suspended for the remainder of the season is it possible a Max Pacioretty riot could start when the Bruins are in town next? I’d probably be very tempted to walk over and dump a beer on Bettman, Campbell or whoever’s head from the NHL if they dared sit in the stands at the Centre Bell, without a massive suspension!

  89. 21273 says:

    Thanks be to God that Max isn’t paralyzed or dead…Chara’s hit was absolutely unnecessary and he should be jailed, together with NHL executives and owners who condone this style of hockey…we wish Max a fast and full recovery

    21273

  90. observer says:

    Like Attorney-General once did in Ontario to Chicherelli Quebec Attorney-General should do the same now – especially with an election coming up. This would get Bettman’s attention and Chara will soon be going back to euroland again.

  91. Gormdog says:

    They will take it down verrrry shortly once their comms dept. realizes that “tough stuff” was premeditated and almost killed a young kid.

  92. BeachHabFan says:

    lots of hate for the habs out there. worst i saw on twitter was from a supposed “expert”:

     

    Mark Spector Sports
    Chara take: It’s a man’s game. Don’t want to risk injury? Play billiards.

     

  93. EricMelvin says:

    The most telling images that I have seen from last night are these:

    - The look on Gomez’s face as he watches Chara being led away.

    -and Chara not even looking back after the hit.

     

    Gomer was disgusted, he knew what happened and he knew that Chara knew as well.

    And, damn, you hurt somebody, mistake or not, you maybe express a little concern? I’ve watched a lot of hockey and I’ve seen a player hit another, realize that something is wrong and even wave for someone to come off the bench to help. Chara could not have cared less. Did he not hear the impact that everyone in the rink heard? I don’t care what his intent was or was not; he left a fellow player unconscious on the ice as a direct result of his actions and didn’t even look back. F’ing coward. Suspend him for 2 or 200, doesn’t matter, everyone knows what he is now.

  94. craz11 says:

    How is this diff from Bertuzzi? It was just as premeditated an act, only difference is Max is very lucky not to be paralyzed!

    Here’s some food for thought:

    Exhibit A: From Jan 8, 2011 match. Establishes the motive for Chara’s premeditated action. Best view @ 2:39.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow1cw8l_rm8&feature=fvwrel

     

    Exhibit B: From Feb 9, 2011 match. Once the scrum starts Chara goes right at Pacioretty.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2XhQI3K37c

    I think actions in these 2 clips proves that this was a premeditated attempt to severely injure Pacioretty. Essentailly the same intent that Bertuzzi had when he assaulted Steve Moore. This should be treated in the same manner.

    I really should send this to the Montreal Police.

  95. Habnofear says:

    Why…because their both Jews? You should  be ashamed of yourself for even implying that shit right now!

  96. avatar_58 says:

    No kidding. It’s like the season is meaningless, just want to know his future

  97. andrewberkshire says:

    Doesn’t make you an ogre, I just can’t bring myself to care at the moment.

  98. notbigbird says:

    I am still upset and feeling sick. I am almost crying for Max. It’s a huge loss to the team as well, but I can’t get too concerned about that at the moment. I hope they punish Chara much more than I think they will.

  99. Buster says:

    I was really scared last night that he was dead, with the close-up of his face on the ice, I don’t think the network should have shown that.

    I think it will however, take a death right there on the ice for the NHL to do anything

     

     

     

    Whooooaa baby!!! WHAT is goin’ on in Pennsylvania!!?

  100. G-Man says:

    A fractured neck and a probably ended career for Pacioretty and Chara will likely get a 1 or 2 game suspension. If this does occur it is time to question the entire leadership of the NHL from top to bottom. It is long past time the NHL gets its disciplinary act together and addresses the head shot issue once and for all.

    I am sick of goon squads winning the cup. Carolina and Anaheim’s are prime examples where refs throw out the rulebook to accomodate a southern US team on their way to winning the Cup.

    Remember, Slapshot is funny because everyone watching know it is phony. Last night was far from phony.

  101. jbroderi says:

    Careless, needless, vicious!! No matter if there was intent or not, Chara’s reckless play has lead to a player out for likely a year, best case scenario.  He has to be responsible

    And Julien, the fat faced hypocrite!!  Excuse after excuse, but he hopes he is ok!  He is a violence monger who supports his thug players.  Chara is not a thug, but he made a reckless play and has to live with the consequences, which should be an even 10 games, on the minimum.  If he intedned to do that??  try 160 games!!

     

    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  102. forskis says:

    What bugs me is that some B’s fans think that he was faking it since apparently the Habs are known for theatrics…what I want to know is:  how do you FAKE running into a stanchion and how do you fake a busted vertebrae?  Was the x-ray doctored too?

    “I am guilty of using elipses…”

  103. andrewberkshire says:

    Does anyone even care about hockey right now? Let’s just hope Pacioretty’s quality of life isn’t effected by this.

  104. observer says:

    bruins owner jeremy jacobs is bettman feces best friend! end of story!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  105. mjames says:

    That is very interesting idea.

     

    mjames

  106. volcano62 says:

    I feel sick to my stomach since last night. My son started crying when he saw the highlights in the morning.

    Hope to see Max back ASAP because without him we have no chance at lord stanley’s cup. I’m not saying he is our savior but he is a piece of the puzzle we need to win it all and the B’s know that.

    I hope Chara gets freakin’ banned from the NHL.

  107. Hockey Socks says:

    I hope Geoff Molson comes down to rip the NHL a new one.

  108. adamkennelly says:

    what I find so appauling is how little credit these x-NHLers are giving themselves…Roenick, Hollik and others…saying that the game is so fast, he could not know where he was on the ice..etc..ALL BS excuses…so a Norris trophy D man doesn’t know where the bench is in relation to the blue line which is of utmost important to him playing his position effectively…its the “stupidity” defense and I’m not buying it. 

    these guys know exactly where they are on the ice and who is on the ice with him…even if Chara was just rubbing him out as part of a normal hockey play – as is the claim..he gave him a little extra – up high – to punish him for perceived wrongdoings..watching it over and over, I would personally go as far as saying he knew exactly where he was and what he was doing…..

     

  109. Habnofear says:

    Agree….

  110. Gormdog says:

    I’ve been so worked up and emotional over this I’ve been unable to post…

     

    But, I’m sorry, Zdeno knew exactly where he was, and exactly what he was doing. He is lauded as one of the smartest D in the NHL. I am at a loss to believe he did not know where he was in the rink and that his (delayed) shove would send Max face first into the “turnbuckle”.

     

    Without the history, to me, it is the definition of a suspendable offence where one player deliberatley tries to hurt another.

     

    The fact that it was Big Z on Max Pac? Premeditated to boot.

     

    It wont happen, but, I genuinely feel that Chara should be suspended for the rest of the season + playoffs.

     

    He isn’t a repeat offender, but, he is a repeat offender against Patches. Man oh man I hope he comes back strong but last nights game went from “game of the season” to “Sucking the life, meaning, and fun out of this season”.

     

    Seeing actions like that, at my ruthless core, makes me cheer for someone on the Habs making a similar vicious play on an unprotected Bruin. Then I remember, whichever way you cut it, and whatever colours are worn, most of these hockey players are young kids who don’t deserve anything of the sort.

     

    Best wishes Max.

     

    And &#*$ you Zdeno. You got your last laugh and now I hope you pay for it with 200 sleepless nights and a nice comphy bench for the rest of the season…

  111. HalifaxHabs says:

    Red Fisher’s articles are a total joke, regardless of how “great” he once was. I stopped wasting my valuable time reading him this year.

  112. rocketsglare says:

    I can only imagine what Cherry is going to say on Coches Corner about Chara’s hit. Should be very interesting.

    Go Habs Go!

  113. HalifaxHabs says:

    this actually makes me not want to watch/support the NHL anymore… if I didn’t love the Habs and hockey so much, I’d be done with it.

  114. SeriousFan09 says:

    NHL.com hits it out of the park, Chara’s attempted murder is listed under “Tough Stuff” on their headlines.

    Shows what the geniuses in charge think of that, garage league.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  115. BeachHabFan says:

    good post, i agree 100% inre: giving the benefit of the doubt to the victim. Does max get to contribute to the hearing? hard to do from a hospital bed.

    They were up in arms to get Gilles out of the league, but Chara isn’t a dirty player, so let’s cut him some slack. if matt cooke or max lapierre had done what chara did, imagine the outcry! 

    and i ditto your praise of white. well done 53.

  116. OneTimer says:

    I still care about hockey. Does that make me an ogre? The team was really starting to come together with MaxPac…

  117. observer says:

    lucic that bignose whose family got into bc somehow – still remember that piece of —- running down the ice chasing habs komisarek from behind and grabbing his face – BEHIND JUST LIKE THAT OVERGROWN MONSTROSITY – never hit anyone EXCEPT FROM BEHIND! sorta how their coach lives his life – never leaving his friends behind.

  118. HabFanSince72 says:

    Chara has never done anything like this before

     

    Did it to Grabovsky only last month.

     

  119. punkster says:

    Way too much hate here today. Guess it’s better to get it out here than elsewhere.

    Concern Number 1: Max. Hang in there and I wish you a full recovery.

     

    Everything else is secondary now. The team will find a way to fill the gap and we’ll be fine. The league will stumble through yet another near-death situation with their usual incompetence. The sun will rise again tomorrow.

    ***Subbang!!!***

  120. johnny boy says:

    I think that Boston should be forced to forfeit their upcoming 1st round draft pick as compensation for damage to Max Pac’s career.  Player suspensions have clearly not worked to deter these kinds of incidents.  Maybe if the team is punished, coaches, GMs and owners will put more pressure on their own players to clean up their act.

  121. mjames says:

    I do not know Chara and i am not a fan of the Bruins. . I am a fan of the Habs and also Pacioretty who is from the next town over from where I live. As such  I could be accused of being a little impartial . Having said that there is no doubt in mind that Chara did not intend to injure Pac to the extent that he did. He did however intend to put him over the boards. I do not agree that it was a clean play. It was a dirty play and one that  deserves punishment. I don’t care whether Chara is a choir boy or not. He perhaps ended this kids career which is dam shame. Whether the intent to injure was there or not someone was severely injured with a reckless play. As in life the person creating the injury needs to take responsibility.

    I only have to look at the picture to know that it was dirty. If you look at the picture you will see Chara’s hand on the back of Pac head as Pac’s face is crushed into  the metal pole. If Chara had boarded someone in the boards with his hand against the player’s head as he banged the guys head into the glass , it would be called dirty. The only difference here is that the object was metal (albeit padded), instead of glass.

    It really annoys me to see all the taking heads trying to find ways to absolve the aggressor. What about the victim in this matter? Why aren’t we looking out form him?

    On a side note I play hockey but I am not fan of fighting. However I was very impressed with White last night. He was right in taking action. Not to put any pressure on him but he might end up being our 2011 version of Chris Nilan. I think he earned his right to be on this team last night. I know he brings more to the team than fighting but he deserves some congratulations for taking care of Boycheck for that punk play on Subban. 

     

    mjames

  122. BeachHabFan says:

    if chara even gets a suspension, it won’t be enough, that much we know. the whole thing with boston has gotten so ugly (chara, campbell and boychuk jumping non-fighters, marchand and julien beaking off, trying to goad PK and pouliot last night, etc etc etc) that no number of wins or retribution will make right. 

    BTW – what is with red fisher complaining about white’s fight? there shouldn’t have been an instigator called, and even though there was, it was totally worth it in terms of showing some spine. Red’s gradual but inevitable decline as an observer of the game is hard to watch. sad.

  123. volcano62 says:

    Yep they should give their 1st pick to the Habs for this BS.

  124. andrewberkshire says:

    I have similar feelings, but mostly I’m thinking my kids won’t be playing the sport.

  125. Kooch7800 says:

    I think hockey has been put on the back burner. I just hope Max can play again and this doesn’t effect his life.

     

  126. Gormdog says:

    It already has been…

  127. Chuck says:

    Tell them that they can no longer have their beer.

  128. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    EXACTLY AND EXCELLENT POINT…. if it was an accident, chara would have put on the breaks and skated back immediately, waving for help…

    he is a GUTLESS P.O.S. that needs to be hung from the ROCKETs Statue….

    as well, CherryD made this same observation about the Crosby hit and not looking back, if your guilty.

  129. Captain aHab says:

    Chara said that he knew they were near the bench. That argument is null and void.

  130. Psycho29 says:

    Trent McCleary

  131. Habanero Gomez says:

    In the real world and anywhere except an NHL rink, this would fall under “aggravated assault” and Chara would have a court date to attend. He also would most likely go to jail…

    Of course, we are not talking about the real world, we are talking about the NHL. I have never been a proponent of involving the Police in NHL matters. However, given the NHL can’t decide whether to live in the past or be realistic about the future, and given they are obviously not going to take head injuries and these kinds of incidents seriously, maybe it is time to involve the local authorities.

    If this shit happened at a local rink in a recreational league, there would be charges laid…

    The Boston bruins are a classless team. For any of those neanderthals running or playing for that so called organization to stick up for Chara shows just how much class they have. None…

    They are not the most skilled team. And can’t hang with skilled teams like the Habs, Detroit etc… So what do they do… They try and turn the clock back to the 1970′s and try to bully other teams with their cheap shots and dirty play…

    The problem is this, in today’s NHL, the players are bigger and faster; the equipment is harder, the sticks are lethal weapons, the boards and glass have little to no give etc etc…

    At first, I thought, O my God, Chara killed him… Then we are all relieved to find out that he is not paralzyed or in a coma, now we hear the “good” news that he only has a “severe concussion” and a non displaced but fractured vertebrae…

    I hold no hope that the league will suspend Chara… And therein lies the problem… You have a bunch of greedy businessmen with a healthy mix of “old time” hockey guys making decisions about the direction of the game…

    Greed begets greed and violence begets violence… The only time this will change is when someone dies and there is a law suit… Sad to say, but unfortunately true…

    Maybe poetic justice here would be if someone on the Habs pulls a “Bobby Clarke” next game against Boston and shatters Chara’s or Lucic’s or maybe even better Campbell’s ankle with a slash… 

    Sorry to be all over the place with this… But this really F&)&ing pisses me off…. As a long time follower of the Habs, I can say this one really bothers me… and that is saying a lot…

    Let us all hope Max will have a normal life after this is all said and done… Because I for one will be amazed if his career didn’t end last night at the hands of Chara… 

  132. Chris says:

    The McCleary one was definitely distressing, as were the jugular cuts suffered by Zednik and Malarchuk.  I liken this one to those…it’s one of those tremendously unfortunate things where two players came together in exactly the worst possible place on the rink.  I know many think it was Chara’s intention to shove Pacioretty’s head into the stanchion, but I’m not convinced.  I DO think he was trying to “bench” him, and they just ran out of real estate. 

    I’ve brained myself on that part of the glass a couple of times over the years because you sometimes get tunnel vision focussing on one thing or the other.  Fortunately for me, I can’t skate anywhere near as fast as Pacioretty was going there, but I still went in face-first just like Pacioretty (fortunately, I also have a full cage).  Scares the heck out of you while you get your bearings and do the mental check of whether you can still control your extremities.

  133. craz11 says:

    I posted this below, but it seems relevant to your post.

    Exhibit A: From Jan 8, 2011 match. Establishes the motive for Chara’s premeditated action. Best view @ 2:39.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow1cw8l_rm8&feature=fvwrel

     

    Exhibit B: From Feb 9, 2011 match. Once the scrum starts Chara goes right at Pacioretty.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2XhQI3K37c

    I think we should petition the police, as concerned citizens, to press charges against Chara. If Bertuzzi was convicted of assault, this is equally as bad and deserves the same treatment.

     

  134. VintageFan says:

    Chara avoided a suspension in April? 2010 when he got an instigator after a game.  He is not a repeat offender only by the slimest of margins. 

  135. Mr. Habs says:

    May da fleas of a thousand camels a infest Chara’s Scrotum!

    Rest well & heal Max. May God bless U

  136. joeybarrie says:

    Bertuzzi followed him around the ice asking him to fight him. When he ignored him, Bertz punched him from behind and a number of players jumped on top of the pile. People were saying before the incident that they had a price on his head.

    There is alot of difference.

    But hopefully the similarity is not lost on the decision, cause basically a HIT after the play is always an intent outside of the competitiveness of the game, and the results can be bad.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  137. HabFanSince72 says:

    No. Playing within the rules of a sport is not illegal. So a punch in a properly regulated and sacntioned boxing match is legal, while a punch in a tavern might not be.

    Chara’s actions were not within the parameters of the game of hockey.

     

  138. joeybarrie says:

    NO PROFESSOR, not for that exact particular offense. However, I do not know if you are aware, but if you call a spade a spade, the laws don’t take into account the particulars of assault. Hit a guy into a steel post, and yeah you get arrested. Also true is ramming someone into the ground, goal, at another person, into a wall, into a players bench or into any of the other things in an arena that are Dangerous. Did you know the goals are made of iron? SO YEAH, by that token 30 players on any given team would at some point in the season have been arrested. High sticking could be considered assault with a deadly weapon. 5-10 in SING SING….

    I got punched once outside a bar, I called the police and they arrested the guy. I got hit once in a soccer game, guess what??????? No one got arrested. SAME ASSAULT, different situation, but well in the realm of our reality.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  139. HalifaxHabs says:

    actually since we’re being “realistic” there’s been a handful of events in hockey over the last 40 years where the police have gotten involved and charges have been filed.

  140. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    really? 30 players all ramming someones head into a steel post breaking their neck? WAKE UP you desensitized conformer….

  141. kempie says:

    He’s going to get 2, maybe 3 games. Life will go on and the game will continue, business as usual and the whole thing will repeat itself over and over. I’m getting really tired of having people pissing on my head and telling me it’s just rain.

  142. observer says:

    no turnbuckles next to the field in soccer to run someones head into!

  143. Bill says:

    Asked an MD and he said a non-displaced C4 fracture should heal completely and he could probably play next season. He said the severity of the concussion is a different story, though, and a lot harder to prognosticate. How he recovers from that will determine when or if he can play again, not the fracture.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  144. SeriousFan09 says:

    Word just came out, Zdeno Chara will face no supplementary discipline for assault with intent to commit bodily harm.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  145. TomNickle says:

    All I’ve read or heard from Chara apologists is that this would be an innocent play if not for the location.  My response to that ridiculous rationalization of the hit is that if Pacioretty had checked Tukka Rask into his own net and he’d broken his neck on the crossbar, would that have been nothing more than a regular two minute interference penalty with no malice, intent to injure or ill will behind it?

    You want Geoff Molson and the Habs organization to stand up to the NHL’s disciplinarian and executive offices?  Somebody should start a movement with the goal of limiting the amount of attendees at the first Bruins/Habs game next season.  Imagine what kind of message that would send if only a couple thousand people showed up to that game.

    Boychuck, Thornton, Campbell, no instigator penalties for a line brawl under 5 minutes left in a hockey game.  Ryan White gets one in the first five minutes of the following game for fighting a guy who tried to knee a star player. 

     

  146. lefreak says:

    prima facie

  147. fbkj says:

    pants buzzed

    no suspension

    this is absolute fxcking horsesh[t

  148. Ian_Habs4life says:

    The NHL has informed the Bruins that there will be no fine and no suspension for Chara ^BB from the boston bruins twitter page …. absolutely ridiculous

  149. LNev says:

    and the internet explodes in 3…2…

  150. LA Loyalist says:

    See my post below, I suggested Canadiens officially boycott the last game in Boston THIS year. Boston would lose all the concession money and have to refund ticket money. That might get their attention. Do you think Gary B would do anything if we stood up to him like that?

    Let’s see what habs leadership say this afternoon. They had better schedule a presser as soon as the official announcement comes down.

  151. shiram says:

    it is on nhl.com

    and it is complete utter garbage

  152. dh says:

    Soccer has its problems with officiating but when even a world class player headbuts an oponent we see what happens.  No “dropping the gloves” and a 5 minute rest for each.  Instead it’s a red card and the equivalent of a permanent power play for the rest of the game.

  153. Habs64 says:

    No suspension for Chara. NIce job NHL!!

  154. OverseasFan says:

    I very unfortunately have experience with someone who had a partial fracture of this vertebrae.

    The Bruins fans saying “it’s just an injury” have it all wrong. If he’s moving his limbs and talking, that’s great, but many other things can be wrong.

    The vertebrae are connected to the spinal cord.The spinal cord is the part of the body that sends messages from the brain to everywhere else.  If that’s damaged and there’s nerve damage, it can impair everything from being able to feel and, I hate to say it, going to the bathroom or other basic functions. It can affect breathing, speech, digestion, use of extremities, sensation in the lower body, etc.

    It’s not like just a knee or ankle injury.

    I’m sorry to be so negative. I hope that none of the above applies to MaxPac. I’d say that about any other player on any other team. All best wishes to him and his family.

  155. adam76 says:

    See you in a week, coach!

  156. mrhabby says:

    the rules were changed after the lockout…..less trapping , zero tolerance for clutch , grabbing, hooking, holding…habs just need a few bigger bodies..a hybrid so to speak.were not that far off.

  157. TomNickle says:

    I’m done with the NHL.  Enjoy the site everyone.  It’s been nice sharing with you for the last year and a bit.

  158. j2c says:

    I though he would get 2 games and even that is a disgrace, but to get no suspension or fine is a slap in the face to the game of hockey, to our organization, and to the player who is the most injured and might not be able to ever play again Max Pacioretty.

  159. Graves says:

    [Expletive] me. Source? Not even the two games I thought he’d get.

  160. dh says:

    Sadly we can never compete against bigger teams with the smaller players we have that have skill and in order to compete in today’s NHL, it’s “bigger is better” for the league

    We won last night 4-1.  In fact, we’ve beaten the Bruins now 4/5 times this season.  Chara’s hit on Max P wasn’t because of Chara’s size or Pacioretti’s size.  It was a bad hit, whether intentional or not, and it should be addressed by the league.  Time for Cherry, Milbury and their ilk to go the way of the other dinosaurs.

     

     

  161. adam76 says:

    Lets eliminate hitting from the game, whos with me?

  162. LA Loyalist says:

    Let’s see what the Management and Ownership of The Montreal Canadiens have to say.

    I am going to watch for it as soon as I get back from throwing up.

  163. AH says:

    I’m not even sure if I believe that anymore either..let’s just say that happens, then what would stop the NHL from still saying “it’s unfortunate the player got “paralyzed” (or “killed”), that was not the “intent” of the offender, it’s just a tragic accident”……I wouldn’t put it by them.

  164. LA Loyalist says:

    Globe and Mail: 3 articles on the hit, all 3 writers hang Chara as responsible for its excessive violence.

  165. EricMelvin says:

    I’d wager not even then, the Bettman-Bot would just wring his hands, try to arrange his features into an

    “I really do give a s4!t, I do, I do”-face, and name a f’ing trophy after the poor bastard. 

     

     

  166. OverseasFan says:

    It’s probably been posted already in these 400+ comments, but here’s a column from the Boston Globe. I don’t agree with every word, but I think it’s fair. It’s called “Chara hit difficult to defend.”

    http://www.boston.com/sports/columnists/massarotti/2011/03/chara_hit_difficult_to_defend.html

  167. AH says:

    Sad but true Kempie..the NHL is a joke.

  168. HabsChick says:

    These comments are so wrong on so many levels.  I could give a rats’ ass if Chara is a dirty player or not.  It’s a suspension worthy play, whether he meant it or not.  Only a deranged lunatic would intend to inquire an opponent to this extent.

    Why other players (from other teams no less!) are “sticking up” for Chara baffles me.  There hasn’t even been an offical prognosis yet and these guys are defending Chara.

    It’s pretty straight forward, Chara has so-called “respect” amongst players in the league and Patches is just a young kid so they’ll make those comments and not feel the slightest bit guilty.  If the tables were turned and this was Chara or some other “super star” that was injured I guarantee we wouldn’t be hearing any of these types of comments.

    It’s despicable….sticking up for the guy that caused the injury.  He doesn’t need your help.  Kind words should be sent Patches way right now.  Chara’s a grown adult.  Let him handle himself.

    GET WELL soon Patch!

  169. RetroMikey says:

    Hockey is supposed to be a game of skill….”soccer on ice” I say to showcase the skillful players from North America and other parts oft he world with players that have talent and skill.

    Sadly we can never compete against bigger teams with the smaller players we have that have skill and in order to compete in today’s NHL, it’s “bigger is better” for the league.

    The rules need to be changed. 

    Have the skill players in the NHL and leave the bigger unskilled players in the ECHL.

    Sad but true, the NHL will do nothing to resolve this issue.

    I have never been a fan of goon hockey but Bettman allows it.

    That is why I am so frustrated at our team when we have talented smurfs but can’t compete for a Cup because we are not bigger like other teams.

    So who wins in this debate?

    No one.

    As Bettman would say “drop the puck and let’s play hockey”

     

     

    “We will win the Cup one day only with ? in the nets “

  170. observer says:

    I think bettman should put a turnbuckle like pole into the ice about 20 feet in front of the net.

  171. 123456 says:

    disagree – a clean hit that results in injury is just unfortunate but not worthy of a suspension.

    chara’s hit was not clean

    best wishes to patches

  172. observer says:

    the problem also is the idiot commish who put a turnbuckle/pole right beside a long open space right next to the boards because he decided that montreal won all those cups in the past unfairly because the penalty box was on the same side as their bench. and the other team on the other side – BREAKING NEWS – THERE WERE NO POLES OR TURNBUCKLES IN OLDEN DAYS BEFORE BETTMAN.

  173. Habitoban says:

    Probably already said somewhere, but if it was a clean hit, but with the same result, does that make everything OK? Obviouosly not. There is a systemic problem with the game that is a function of player size, speed and the size of the ice surface. Stiffer suspensions, team fines etc. can’t fix that. Changes need to go deeper. And as an aside, it is an absolute disgrace that HNIC’s theme song is “Saturday Nigh’s Alright for Fighting”, playing over mostyly monster hits and fights.

  174. LA Loyalist says:

    Tagline of the day :) this is fabulous:

    I’m getting really tired of having people pissing on my head and telling me it’s just rain.

  175. habs4ever2894 says:

    Why is it so hard for me to understand how people could view the hit as clean? I want to see why people are saying the hit was just bad luck but i simply cant. Its seems like every other website besides HIO is saying that the hit was not malicious and that Chara didn’t mean to do it , but from the replays and facts i cant help but feel that this hit was pure dirtiness. Uch i dont even want to hear what the leafs have to say about the hit , ive heard enough people say it was clean.

  176. habsfaninboston says:

    That announcer would be homer Jack Edwards.

  177. HABdriven says:

    Wishing Patches a speedy and full recovery.  Don’t have much faith in the NHL to do the right thing and suspend Chara for as long as Patches is out of action, so here’s hoping that the Goons get thrown out of the playoffs in the first round.

  178. arrow says:

    I have been following the updates all day and I hope and pray that Max Pacioretty can continue his career once he has healed. I suggest that the HAB fans vote MAX the 3rd star every game until he returns!

    Get well Max!

  179. eyhp says:

    Sadly, the NHL cronies won’t do a damn thing until someone got permanently paralyzed or died in the game.

  180. 24moreCups says:

    I remember reading some where yesterday that Patchs scoring pace would equal out to something like a 32 goal season.

    He was becoming just the kid of player we were looking for, a young kid with tons of potential.

    I remember seeing that happen last night and was sickened, in the first few moments I wasn’t sure if he was paralyzed or what, it was hard to watch.

    I just wish him all the best and hope he comes back strong as ever.

    And I was just listening to the Team 990 and they played a clip of a Boston announcer I’m assuming, after Patchs gave Chara a little shove, well the announcer said some thing like “He’s a cocky little guy, number 67 mark it down next game he’s gonna get his head taken off” it was something along those lines.

  181. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    thats great news, thanks… excrement should not be immune to prosecution

  182. joshua94k says:

    The problem with players today is they show no respect.

    “I think (Chara) was trying to rub him out along the boards. It’s a normal play, it was a normal rub out,” Bozak said.

    Read the article and you’ll see why there are so many career threatening injuries unlike the past. Mario Lemieux seems awful quiet today. 

    http://www.thestar.com/sports/article/951231–leafs-don-t-think-chara-s-intent-was-to-injure

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  183. LA Loyalist says:

    Thank you. Let’s crash Gary Bettman’s server. :)

  184. Bill says:

    Haha, I wasn’t even offensive! No more than usual I mean. Just said something sarcastic about TSN or something … Can’t say I care a whole lot, McKenzie is usually a boring read anyway. And his defense of Colin Campbell and the email thing convinced me he’s more interested in access than reporting.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  185. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Apparently the hit was brought up in Question Period today. Lunn (minister of sport) wants the NHL to act.  Whatever that means

  186. Habs Proud says:

    First and foremost I sincerley wish Max Pacioretty a full and speedy recovery.

    Last night was a disgusting example of what the NHL has become, this issue could and should have been fixed long ago, its time that Gary Bettman stops kissing the asses of places like Glendale and Atlanta and starts worrying about where the game is going, he and Colin Campbell have had numerous chances to make examples of the goons like Chara but have not. I am a die hard Habs fan so I guess thats what bring this to a head, max Pacioretty is a young and very talented player who has worked his heart out, as all the guys breaking into the league have had to, for what! how does he feel today not knowing if perhaps his career has been ended or at least derailed by an idiot like Chara, how devistating is that! Its not just about this one incident there is a new one every week, granted not as serious as what we saw last night but certainly with the same possible outcomes. Chara should get at least 20 games, perhaps its time to start making examples of guys I don’t care if they are stars, captains or pluggers they all get the same justice, then and only then will not only players gain some respect but so will coaches and management, yes Claude Julien I mean you if you tolorate or condone this they you’re the problem too. Bettman and Campbell its time.

  187. SeriousFan09 says:

    Hey, badge of honour on Twitter when you get your first block.

    The people who get blocked by Halak’s agent Allan Walsh have their own t-shirts!

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  188. Ian Cobb says:

    Stand up for our game and kids where ever you are! Send a message, don’t just vent to each other, stand up to save a life and make a difference 

    NHL Head Office–Fax# 212-789-2020……E-mail gbettman@nhl.com.

     

  189. fbkj says:

    cool, following

  190. Bill says:

    magizzle (try not to laugh). I never used it much before this. I got blocked by Bob McKenzie!

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  191. A. Berke says:

    Good luck Max, I wish a speedy and full recovery and take your time to heal well.

    and I hope that chara and the rest of the bruins scumbag goons go to hell (sooner the better). I’ve never been so upset and angry in my life (and I’m 69 years old).

    Ali B.

  192. Strabo says:

    In case anyone is interested in sending a fax and they don’t have a fax machine, you can try

    http://faxzero.com

    http://www.myfax.com/free/

    http://www.gotfreefax.com/

    Tie up the NHL’s fax machines for awhile would be a nice little protest.

     

     

    “Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.” Albert Einstein

  193. SeriousFan09 says:

    What’s your Twitter ID Bill? Wondering.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  194. Bill says:

    From SeriousFan09′s twitter: “Chara apparently walks to talk to Pacioretty now. Probably wants to warn him about trying to injure himself again… ” Gallows humour, but I needed a laugh.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  195. habs4ever2894 says:

    Dear Matt Cooke,

    Let me start off by saying your a horrible person and i would love to see you out of the NHL ,

    Your hits are reckless and dirty and your a certified piece of garbage

    But all can be forgiven in one way and one way only:

    Take out Zdeno chara’s knees and end that bastards career!

     

    Seriously though , i would love to see karma bite Chara in the behind one of these days , I still cannot get over the fact that with all the replays and all the solid facts that people have brought forth there is belief that this hit was not intentional , It makes me sick!!

    Get well soon Max !!


     


     

  196. fbkj says:

    he was my first :)

  197. Bill says:

    Haha, blocked by Walsh. Did you get a shirt?

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  198. fbkj says:

    no but we should start a bowling league

  199. mrhabby says:

    this is where it has to start at the political level (not that anything will happen) and filter down to the NHL brass, owners of the teams for any action to take place. its good that somebody at that level actually noticed.

  200. Gormdog says:

    I’m suprised my laptop is still in one piece after reading the news.

     

    The REASON that the league did not give out a suspension, is because it’s like admitting Zdeno is a petty thug. Suspension = intent. If they suspend him it’s akin to saying he is responsible for a borken neck. The EXACT thing the league is trying to avoid.

     

    This whole thing is corrupt.

  201. LA Loyalist says:

    Well so what? It’s money, not a guy’s life, which will happen, sooner or later. Do you really think Bettman would have the balls to threaten Montreal Canadiens owners?

    Let’s wait on the ruling. If it is not just, we will find out about the new emperors’ clothes, if the Molsons have any cojones.

    I want PG and Bob Gainey to have a press conference. Yeah I’ve bagged on some of Bob Gainey’s player decisions but this is his chance, as the ‘eminence gris’ of the Montreal Canadiens, to use his credibility to do some good for all the players in the league.

    Otherwise this is bullsh*t.

  202. oshawahabsfan says:

    Pretty sure the team could afford it

  203. avatar_58 says:

    Thanks for proving my point further

  204. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    If there are any Mods on.. please remove this fool. You’re either a giant troll or a moron.

  205. Kain292 says:

    If there are any Mods on.. please remove this fool. You’re either a giant troll or a moron.

    Being a Habs fan is a way of life, and a great one at that.

  206. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    some people tell it like it is, they see very clearly… you don’t, you are desensitized to injury, compassion and humanity, because thats all i’m standing up for…and you are clearly against that as you insult my comments.

    go and worship your CHARAnaided excrement you fool.

  207. PrimeTime says:

    I am completely disgusted about the NHL today this year. From one bad incident to another. Does someone actually have to die for the stupidity to stop?? The instigator rule needs to be abolished! Players should not only have the means of a viscious hit to the head for “payback”. What White did last night was absolutely the best way to deal with a player going after one of your stars. Once it done, it’s over! There may be further fights but not the cheap and disgusting hits with intent to cause injury. Players do not control their emotions very well. They need a release to vent and a fight is the safest way to do so. I will very quickly put hockey aside until this is resolved. Sickening!!

  208. showey47 says:

    I don’t know how anybody could doubt this was unintentional hit. As “fun police” said i doubt he intented to cause such a serious injury but the intent to drive maxpac into the stantion was very much intentional. Go look at the picture on the “puckcast” from the previous link. Look where chara’s left arm is,directing maxpac’s head and the right arm is steering his body. Full intent IMO.

  209. Mr.Hazard says:

    I’m seriously very troubled by this news… I don’t even know how to react… I was loving him more each game, and now I’m just crushed by what this may do to his career/life.

  210. Corio says:

    I have felt like puking all day, I am so sad for Patches and I truly hope he recovers well and can come back at some point.  As for Chara I really hope the NHL sends a message but we all know they won’t..

    HORRIBLE!

  211. PattyBoy31 says:

    This might be a stretch; can the city of montreal not ban that big goof? Then we never have to see his ugly face around here again.

  212. HalifaxHabs says:

    No, I just don’t give a sh1t about t-shirt cannon’s when someone is laying in the hospital with a broken neck…

    but if you really are asking, because sponsors pay to have their t-shirts shot around, so they got shot around.

  213. observer says:

    hope pacoretty sues chara bigtime and sues the nhl biggertime for unsafe working conditions like poles amnd turnbuckles where someone could smash your head against.

  214. HabFanSince72 says:

    … Chara, because he’s a human …

     

    Humanoid.

     

  215. HabFanSince72 says:

    TV networks pulling out.

    They already have. NBS shows a few games as a favor.

  216. Ian Cobb says:

    Start with this Timo. NHL Head Office–Fax# 212-789-2020……E-mail gbettman@nhl.com

    Stand up for our game and kids, everyone. MAKE A NOISE, we pay the freight.

  217. Barts says:

    Ya, I mean that’s gotta be schtick from the Boston hosts, they can’t be serious. The Habs dive more than any team in history? What the fck are they talking about? I think they were trying to goad Tony into a war, but he was informed, intelligent and wouldn’t bite. Well done.

  218. ed lopaz says:

    timo, Boone is on record as supporting Mckenzie on this one.

    he says “its a tough call”.

    he does not believe that the suspension should be so severe.

    I doubt Boone is going to be calling any advertisers.

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  219. Bill says:

    Or just biased (Bruins and their fans) or blind or has some kind of agenda (Bob McKenzie and Colin Campbell).

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  220. NightRyder says:

    It can never happen.

    Let’s say Chara took out Tom Pyatt. If you’re the Canadiens, Tom Pyatt is going to be “injured” for three years straight.

     

  221. Mr.Hazard says:

    If that’s not sarcasm: were you at the game?

    If you weren’t, you obviously don’t know what I’m talking about.

  222. wd40 says:

    Kudos to Tony for his appearance on Sports Hub.  If that host is representative of their fan base, then this explains a lot about Bruins fans.  Tony was pure class.  

  223. NightRyder says:

    There is a difference between trying to punish an opponent, which I think Chara did want to do, and breaking his neck, which I guarantee Chara did not want to do.

    In this case, however, I don’t think that absolves him in any way, and the punishment should be severe.

  224. Bill says:

    You are never boring, that’s for sure. Chara’s not getting banished and probably will get 2-3 games, maximum. He did something awful and he’ll pay the consequences in a different way.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  225. Rudy says:

    This is such a rational idea, but it will never happen unless the Board of Governors suggest it. I also like the idea above of the team losing points for the number of games someone is suspended, that would make them think twice. But it won’t happen.

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  226. Bill says:

    I still feel bad about lots of things, that’s suffering. And I’ve certainly never seriously injured anyone, deliberately or not. He’ll suffer.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  227. HabsDiva84 says:

    I think that this should be a wake up call in the NHL in the same way that they death of Nodar Kumaritashvili was a wake up call for the luge federation. Fortunately for Max the result is much better but if Chara had done that outside of the rink he would be put in jail. Chara is a veteran of the NHL and should be aware of where he is on the ice. You can come out and say the puck was up ice, have the knowledge that Max is right next to you and then act like you didn’t see the stanchion. It’s like driving you have to be aware of what is around you at all times and when you hit someone you don’t blame them for not getting out of your way.

  228. Flabadagub says:

    Anyone who thinks Chara did not intend to hurt Max P is ignorant.

  229. Timo says:

    I don’t know Bill. Chara did not display a lot of “human” when he drove Max into the boards. I am more an eye for an eye type of person so I would rather see him suffer physically and hopefully mentally for a long long time.

  230. Drive_For_25 says:

    Hope Max Pac denies him the opportunity to try and “apologize”.

  231. sillywalk says:

    Simple way to combat that; both teams’ doctors, plus an independent doctor, have to sign off on the player’s return, majority vote. In the event that the injured player’s team doctor is the lone holdout in the decision to clear him for play, the player may continue to stay off the ice but the suspended player may return.

  232. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    never forget… thats what you do…

    wear the pain on your chest and do not be defeated, stick up vehemently for what you believe.

    do not let the bigoted class win… their compassion for humanity does not exist, they are excrement.

  233. Dansolo says:

    The NHL should suspend Chara for the length of time it takes Pacioretty to recover. Seems fair to me on any illegal hit.

  234. Rudy says:

    I hope Max REFUSES that call and instead, Max’s mother gets on the phone with Chara.

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  235. Chris says:

    Historically, the police try to stay out of professional sports.  The Bertuzzi, McSorely and Ciccarelli incidents are examples where the civil laws came into play on the ice.

    I would frankly be a bit shocked if that were the case here.

  236. Drive_For_25 says:

    I don’t easily wish ill on anyone.  This is too much for me not to.  

  237. TPlow says:

    At what point does the NHL seriously have to sit down and look at its culture? I know awful injuries happen in almost every sport (as an Arsenal fan, I still shudder at memories of Aaron Ramsay’s foot hanging off his broken leg like a pendulum last season), but I can’t think of another sport that is repeatedly in the news for this kind of garbage – McSorely, Bertuzzi, all of the high profile concussions this year, Matt Cooke, now Chara on Max. I mean, the NFL has a shocking number of players arrested every year for gun crimes and other thuggery, but even among those guys it doesn’t carry over to the field. What’s wrong with hockey? Is it the game – the size, speed, equipment, etc. – or the culture? And if it’s the culture, why can’t it be changed? Everyone says if you take the fighting out, the nonsense on the ice will get worse. How much worse can it get?

    Wishing all the best to Max.

     

     

  238. Bill says:

    My view that his conscience will bother him isn’t based on personal knowledge, obviously. I just think anyone’s conscience would kick in, except for a sociopath’s.

    Basically, Chara is the kind of guy who would drive a vulnerable opponent’s head into a steel pole; that’s what we learned last night. So he’s a bad person, yes. But bad people have consciences too, and they work.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  239. BoomBoom says:

    Does the NHL exec, players and management realize how close we came to a fatality or paralysis last night? Do the talking heads, journalists and other media (idiots like Martine Gaillard) who cover hockey realize that Max Pac is lucky to be alive and his career will never be the same. Unfortnately, most do not with the few exceptions. They blame the victim, they blame the game, they say its an accident, etc…

    Chara made a decision to hurt MaxPac, he made a decision that had severe consequences…It’s time for the NHL to step up and punish the offender and not blame the victim. Seriously next time, the player may never get up.

    P.S: I am a Habs fan. But I don’t think I am wrong that the Boston Bruins deserve full responsiblity for what has happened over the last 2 months. So the Habs win 3-2 it OT, so your response is to result to thuggery and name calling and viled threats. This is evident from the top to the bootom with Neely to Julien (ugly fatso) to losers like Lucic and Marchand to blantant a–holes like Chara. A curse on this franchise!  

  240. Barts says:

    Hey all, Team 990 Montreal Forum host Tony Marinaro (God bless him) was on the “Sports Hub 98.5″ Boston radio yesterday before the game. You can listen to it here:

    http://www.team990.com/sound_bytes/view/session/team_990_audio_clips/1/

    Warning: the low IQ level of the neanderthal hosts and their presumedly corresponding audience is in full effect.

  241. Danno says:

    A guy at work today came in wearing a Boston sweater.

    Usually you wear your team’s sweater after they win. Boston lost 4-1. What the hell is there to celebrate?

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  242. oshawahabsfan says:

    If only the NHL had someone like David Branch in charge of discipline, then we might see some appropriate suspensions dished out. In any other business a conflict of interest such as with the Campbells would not fly. I’ve talked to about this with co-workers who don’t watch hockey and they can’t believe that someone who’s son plays in the league could be in charge of disciplinary measures. After seeing what happened last night I’m sure they won’t be jumping to watch a hockey game

  243. Hobie Hansen says:

    Aside from last night’s hit, If Chara had any honor he’d he wouldn’t be going after guys like Pacioretty, Lecavallier or Latendresse. I’ve personally watched Chara hunt down those players and attack them. And those are just three examples off the top of my head. Chara fighting anyone under 6’5” and 230lbs is gutless thing to do. Did George Laraque ever chase guys like Mark Recchi or Mark Savard around the ice trying to fight or hurt them? One day Chara is going to be in a vulnerable position and someone is going to take a shot at him and I can’t wait to see it!

  244. Ian Cobb says:

    The citizens and fans pay the freight, so it is up to them to through out Bettman and Gadaffi and replace the game with hockey.!!

    We have to get a hold on this thing that is missing in the game today! RESPECT. Candy coat it any way that you want to, Game faster, players bigger, rule changes and anything else you want, to make this a more violent game that will turn the stomach of all.

    Either we have the great game of body checking hockey with shoulders and hips and respect for your opponent, or you have this type of ultimate fight hockey crap.  Which I refuse to call hockey and sport, it is criminal.

    The head was always respected in days gone by. Get respect back in the game before the game is gone forever as we know it. Worse, we are going to cause death folks. Yes I said WE, you and me are just as responsible for not taking a stand. Do it today.!

  245. Timo says:

    I was asking a similar quesiton yesterday. Can policy not investigate this? The precedent has been set with Bertuzzi and McSorley, I don’t see why not in this case.

  246. Malreg says:
    Boston Bruins
     

    Chara just met with reporters briefly in Wilmo. Hasn’t heard a decision as of yet. He hopes to get in touch w/Pacioretty soon.^
  247. Flabadagub says:

    Good’ol Sudbury boys always know what they’s talkin’ bout! Me too I’m dat and always agree with both you guys’s superior posts. Minnow Lake, Plaza rules.

  248. observer says:

    *In 1981, Dino Ciccarelli of the Minnesota North Stars was sentenced to one day in jail and fined $1,000 for striking Luke Richardson of the Toronto Maple Leafs several times in the head with his stick.

    * Boston Bruins’ 1975 player Dave Forbes was the first pro athlete to be indicted for a crime committed during play after inflicting ‘excessive force’ on Henry Boucha of the Minnesota North Stars. His trial ended in a hung jury.

    * After a brawl in Toronto in 1975, attorney general Roy McMurtry stated he’d prosecute hockey’s brutes as he would any street criminal. Commissioner Clarence Campbell issued a familiar refrain: He blamed increased television exposure and expansion for creating a perception that violence was on the rise.

  249. naweed235 says:

    I dont know if this was mentionned but take it for what its worth:  I was listening to team 990 driving home and an expert from CTV (sorry cant recall his name) called in and said his friend who is  a doctor was relieved when he heard that it was the C4 and that it was no displaced… he said the most severe case would have been C1 similiar to what happened to Christopher Reeves and that the fact that it was C4 is a tremendous news for Pax… he said that from the info that he got the doctor did not rule out a potential return in septemeber…

    that certainly eases my mind a bit but its still really sad…

  250. Fansincebirth says:

    The last game in Boston, I came close to throwing something at the TV watching Chara flatten Gio against the boards late in the game.

    Boston has taken the low road and added Neanderthals to the team because they can’t put enough skilled players on the ice. It’s a sad statement.

    Imagine if this game had been in Beantown last night….imagine the roar and cheer that would have gone up when Chara took out one of the rising stars in the league. Even worse, imagine if Gill would have done the same thing to Marchand or one of their other ‘stars’.

    Bettman sowed the seed of this league when he took over. He wanted a rock-em, sock-em take no prisoners type of league built on big hits, blood and violence and he has that.

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  251. HalifaxHabs says:

    I would have defintely had a debate, that could lead to an argument, that could lead to a confrontation, with said co-worker.

    That’s probably because I’ve been feeling really emotional about this since last night. My Fiancee’s uncle and cousin are die hard Bruins fans, next time I see them it’s going to get ugly, real quick, if they try to laugh this off.

  252. Timo says:

    The only stand Bettman will understand, Ian, is that of TV networks pulling out. So, how do we take a stand? Personally I would like to meet Bettman in a dark alley, however, that’s not gonna happen. Do I cancel my RDS subscription? Do all Habs fans? Short of revolution a-la Lybia, we are powerless.

  253. Ian Cobb says:

    We can call sponsers and advertisers to tell them that we will boycott their products. It works, if people get on board and send messages.

  254. Propwash says:

    This time someone has ben taken off the ice on a stretcher, does the next time have to be someone in a pine box before something is done?

  255. Mats26 says:

    Asides from the obvious tragedy, the habs playoff hopes have seriously dimmed. Nobody on this team score garbage goals like Max. Pouliot/Dawes etc won’t fit the bill. You need those goals late in the year and in tthe playoffs.

    This sucks. I saw a comment somewhere that said that along with the suspension, teams should lose a point in the standings for the number of games suspended. That would correct behaviour in a hurry.

    Don’t just hurt the player, hurt the team (lost playoff revenue, etc). Then a 3 game suspension actually means something.

  256. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    karma is a big word and appears in many different shapes at different times, unperceived… in fact it may not even direct itself against the “excrement” for many years, or in ways that we would ever know…

    i will not throw this to ‘karma’… compassion for justice and human dignity, human life is at stake here. this was a blatant act of violence and intent. The ‘excrement’ must be banished from the game, anything less will only foment the discord created by the bigoted class.

  257. volcano62 says:

    Agreed 100%

  258. Mr.Hazard says:

    Sorry Dan, it just makes too much sense.

  259. Bill says:

    Max seems like a classy guy and I’m sure he’ll accept the apology, which I hope and believe will be sincere. Not that the apology diminishes Chara’s actions. But Max will take the high road, as he should.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  260. Timo says:

    I don’t know Ian. I don’t disagree, but it sounds a bit idealistic. How realistic it is you think that hundreds of thousands of people will abandon watching hockey… something we’ve grown up with and that is in our blood?

    Now, I do think however that media, especially Habs friendly media (hello Stubbs, Boone, Stu et Co) should start getting that message out more.

  261. Rudy says:

    I hate the fact that there is nothing we as fans can do to get the point across that this is bullshit. How do we make a statement that could ever get the attention of the NHL? If we boycott games, that hurts the Habs,we would never buy Bruins merchandise anyway, so can’t boycott that. I really wish there was something tangible we could do, especially with the game at the end of the month in Boston.

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  262. Habnofear says:

    Chara’s knee’s should be taken out!

  263. nastyHABit says:

    Aside from what i think about a vicious,gutless,lowlife,and just plain DIRTY hit……here’s a wish for a speedy recovery Max!…..you’re tough as nails kid and i know we’ll see you back soon

  264. HabFanSince72 says:

    What’s wrong with hockey?

    1. Mafia culture. First, the Omerta that prevents anyone from speaking out (even someone with the prestige of Mario Lemieux). Second, the accepted role of intimidation. Doing physical violence to “send a message” is an accepted part of the game. Only the mob acts like this. No one else in civilized society thinks it’s OK to harm someone to “send a message”.

    2. Thug culture: from the lowest leagues all the way to the NHL, to the players and the fans. Listen to the neanderthals on CBC and TSN. You often hear that a player is too small. Have you ever heard about a thug that he’s too unskilled? Did anyone ever tell Shawn Thornton: you’ll never make it, you’re not skilled enough?

    3. Ignorance regarding the seriousness of brain injury. After everything we’ve seen – they still don’t get it.

    4. As long as the money’s good… F***ing nhl.com publicizes the violence on their website.

  265. The Teacher says:

    Shiloh made an extremely good case for it in a post somewhere..About last night I believe.

     

    And I am disappointed with Boone.

  266. HalifaxHabs says:

    really… those are good points?

  267. HabsDiva84 says:

    Georges Laraque showed more respect for the players and the game in fighting then Chara ever has. Georges never went after players in vulnerable positions, he had respect for the players he fought and he only fought with guys who knew how to fight not with the skilled guys. I’ve loved the player that Georges was since he was an Oiler. Such a classy guy especially considering the role that he was called to fill on the teams he played for.

  268. Bill says:

    I’m not sure what kind of Karma you are talking about! I will say that you should be careful about wishing ill on anyone though …

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  269. observer says:

    pk stock or pj stock whatever his name is i never heard of him though he claims he was once a great nhl player- another flunkie now an exspurt!

  270. Danno says:

    You know what — most people just ignored him — and on one level you really feel like taking a guy like that on but on the other hand it’s just too pathetic.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  271. Mad Habber says:

    Can you believe that some bruins fans are actually saying that everyone is making a big fuss over this because Plekenac appearently tired a knee shot on Lucic?

  272. The Teacher says:

    Agreed, I think the intent was obvious. He is also 6’9, there is NO reason his elbow needed to be that high in that situation. He clearly saw where Pax was heading and directed him there.

     

    I have just heard that the talk is Chara will get 2 games.

     

    If that is true, it is absolutement pathetic.

     

     

  273. HalifaxHabs says:

    I generally agree with your statement… but there is an awful lot of people out there saying “they know Chara, and they know he didn’t mean to” and you’re saying “I know his conscience will bother him … a lot. Maybe not now, but soon.”

    But the thing is, no one knows what’s in his head. It’s funny to listen to announcers say they know him… really you know him? did you grow up with him? is he in your family? no, you’ve interviewed him and watched him on TV for years… no one knows what was in his head except him… what we do know is he has a history with Pacioretty, and he guided his head into a steel pole at full speed. That’s the only thing any of us knows about the incident.

  274. kempie says:

    How crazy would it be to suggest that Max may have a case against the league as well for failing to protect its employees?

  275. Mr.Hazard says:

    Stubbs brings up two good points from last night (having been at the game):

    WHY didn’t they update the crowd on the PA about Pacioretty’s condition, and

    WHY did they send out the t-shirt cannons?

    I mean, they’re not robots, they don’t HAVE to do it. I was just sitting there feeling disturbed and empty, watching some guy drive around shooting t-shirts out of a gun, when all I wanted was to know what was going on with Patches.

  276. revolutionnumber9 says:

    Unfortunately, NR is correct. Let’s be honest this isn’t going to change unless the NHLPA changes it.

  277. Bugs says:

    NESN poll says hit was clean now. Perhaps some who haven’t yet voted would like to add their check to the tally?

    http://www.nesn.com/2011/03/was-zdeno-charas-hit-on-max-pacioretty-clean-or-dirty.html

  278. Drive_For_25 says:

    Come on Bill.  I wish nothing but pain and suffering to Chara and his family because I’m human and I know what he did.  That’s Karma.  Suprised Karma let him make it home safely last night to be honest.

  279. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    did you see what the “excrement” did to DD earlier in the game, pile drived him into the boards… he needs a stick crosschecked across his teeth and all his teeth scattered on the ice and scooped up by the zamboni and dumped in the sewer.

  280. Ian Cobb says:

    I hope the Pacioretty family and lawyers sue Chara into the ground. After 7 years the Moore family is going for over $20 million from Burtusie and is going to get it from him. He is having a wonderful life playing for an elite club while Moore is still trying to learn how to think and walk somewhat.

  281. naweed235 says:

    I think it would have been a very noble thing to punch the idiot… is he trying to say that he is proud of what happened?

  282. Bill says:

    It doesn’t matter to me if Chara gets suspended or for how long. It doesn’t fix what happened. If Pacioretty comes through this without long-term neurological damage, I will be thankful. If he ever plays hockey again, I will be overjoyed. If he plays and still turns into the player he was becoming … then everything is okay and I am satisfied.

    I don’t want the Habs to look for ‘revenge’ on Chara, because he’s a human and he knows what he did, and I know his conscience will bother him … a lot. Maybe not now, but soon. And even if it doesn’t, well, that’s what Karma is for. And I have absolute faith in Karma.

    Looking forward to hearing some good news about Max so that maybe I can start caring again soon enough to enjoy some playoffs.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  283. lefreak says:

    it would be interesting to find the Lapierre suspension thread and see how many of you defended him for breaking the rules.;)

  284. lefreak says:

    If that the dirtiest play you have ever seen in your life, guess what you need to watch more hockey and from teams that don’t involve the CH.

    There are at least 5 incidents worse than this in the NHL this year alone. Had max got up it would have been a 2 minute penalty and that is it. We wouldn’t even be talking about it today.;)

    The intent is not clear, not like Cooke or Gillis or many other atrocious plays that habs fans want to compare this to.

    It amazes me the sheer bias and stupity of some bleu blanc rougers. They let alligiances cloud their judgement. Sometimes this site has all of the stupidity of hockeybuzz and more.

     

    here guys i’ll give you a cookie so you can feel better.

     

    [Sarcasm]I was wrong and Chara should not only go to jail, but he should be hit in the head with a baseball bat so that he can feel the same pain. He should be tried in Florida so he can be eligible for the death penalty. Regardless of the jersey the injured player was wearing this is the most heinous act in the history of the nhl, and not only should Chara be punished, but the Bruins should be forced to disband and move to Winipeg. Everyone who disagrees with this is either wrong or obviously a phony habs fan that cheers for the leafs. Anyone who won’t just conform to popular opinion is not being a good fan of the team and should be barred from watching hockey games[/sarcasm]

     

    Don’t bother answering this, I won’t bother reading it. Some of the stuff I see written on this site, is exactly the reason why Habs fans are mocked constantly on every other hockey website. No it isn’t because they are jealous of us. ;)

     

     

  285. HabFanSince72 says:

    Not really. How serious does an on-ice attack have to be before it escapes the realm of NHL “justice”?

    The NHL won’t police itself, so civilized society needs to step in.

     

  286. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    anyone who blatantly pushes someone into a steel post at high speed doesnt have my respect.

    so yes if the roles were reversed, my position would be same, PAX would be a disgrace to the organization and the NHL.

  287. lefreak says:

    now i want you to tell me with a straight face that if it happened to Chara instead of MaxPac, you would be calling for criminal charges instead of cheering at how Chara got what he deserved. ;)

     

    go ahead, i won’t make comments about your nose growing longer.

  288. HalifaxHabs says:

    wow, you’re just like those talking heads who are saying “they know Chara didn’t have that kind of intent”… telling people what they believe and why

    I’ve played hockey my whole life, and that was one of the dirtiest most dangerous plays I’ve ever seen.

    I’m not saying he should be criminally charged, but you’re funny when you tell people what they think and why.

  289. lefreak says:

    have you ever played hockey? because i have never played video games.

     

    the only reason you want criminal charges is because of the jersey the guy on the stretcher is wearing…sorry.

  290. observer says:

    its been done in the past. c/p – *In 1981, Dino Ciccarelli of the Minnesota North Stars was sentenced to one day in jail and fined $1,000 for striking Luke Richardson of the Toronto Maple Leafs several times in the head with his stick.

    * Boston Bruins’ 1975 player Dave Forbes was the first pro athlete to be indicted for a crime committed during play after inflicting ‘excessive force’ on Henry Boucha of the Minnesota North Stars. His trial ended in a hung jury.

    * After a brawl in Toronto in 1975, attorney general Roy McMurtry stated he’d prosecute hockey’s brutes as he would any street criminal. Commissioner Clarence Campbell issued a familiar refrain: He blamed increased television exposure and expansion for creating a perception that violence was on the rise.

  291. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    “taking it way to far”?????????????….PARDON?

    ask MAX PAX if its too far? ask Max Pax 1 second before his head hit a steel post with chara the excrements forearm pressing against his temple? ASK HIM WHAT WAS GOING THROUGH HIS MIND and if he thought that chara was taking to too far…

    the problem is posts like your show a trait of desensitization….like you’ve played too many video games….

     

  292. RiverviewCanadien says:

    You say this “Gang jump the guy to show you are sticking up for a team mate. “, and then tell HP that his comments make Habs fans look bad, what you stated is exactly the wrong thing to do. Come on GANG JUMP him!?

    No, someone step up, yes. Maybe everyone target him all night long with hits and slapshots directly towards him is what you meant, in that case I agree.

  293. Kain292 says:

    Calling for his arrest is ridiculous.

    Being a Habs fan is a way of life, and a great one at that.

  294. lefreak says:

    with at least 27 other teams in the nhl…chara would be chased after and rightfully so.

  295. 4loorplay says:

    Give me a fn break….He rode him exactaly where he wanted to ride him….The outcome was far worse then he expected but that is something else.

     

    Chara is a P O S in my book now

  296. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    yes i have and still do, thats why i know what that bastard did… its quite clear.

  297. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    but the guy in the hospital with a broken neck, which in all probability equates to a lost career, which equates to possibly 100million in lost revenue or more for himself…. and his health or lifestyle…

    thats not ridiculous eh?…no it isn’t, there are better words than that.

  298. Bugs says:

    No suspension. No fine. The hit was peeeeeerfectly clean according to Gregory Campbell’s dad’s minions. The fact that Pac-Man was marked for death by the Bruins and ESPECIALLY Chara is merely a pure coincidence.

    The correct decision was taken for this deliberate and possible career-ending attack, imo.

  299. ClaytonM says:

    Screw that, next game they play, I want to see some wooden sticks, if not those aluminum ones Gretzky used to use.

  300. Chris says:

    I’m always amazed when I see the Timbits games at OHL or NHL games and see 6-8 year olds using composite hockey sticks.  There is absolutely no chance that those kids can generate the kind of torque required to get any benefit from those sticks.  So basically, they are just really expensive toys at that age.  :)

  301. ClaytonM says:

    geez, they can’t even spell torque yet, and any 8 year old who can explain what torque is spends too much time in the library to be any good at hockey :)

  302. LA Loyalist says:

    My kid (8) can hardly believe there was such a thing as wooden sticks. I had to show him one. :)

  303. ZepFan2 says:

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=357209

    No suspension.

    What a fcking joke league!

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  304. mrhabby says:

    zero games ..nothing..what a farce , what a freakin joke.

  305. Sportfan says:

    I am so disgusted in the NHL right now if this is true that they are doing nothing this is complete garbage he could have died if he was hit the right way, he could lose his career and instead the morons in the head office arent whilling to suspend him jesus i am so angry

  306. Captain aHab says:

    Holy shit….no suspension or fine.

    wow

  307. naweed235 says:

    thank you for saying my thoughts exactly… i’ve been feeling physically sick since last night and im definitly not an over emotional person I just find it sick that that big moron gave himself the liberty to potentially end a great young mans career… plane disgusting… I am probably the biggest fan of the game that I know and normally by this time i’d be excited about the next game… but today I couldnt even concentrate in class so i left university for a walk on st catherine with my gf and every time I saw something hockey related or hab related (ads, jerseys, etc) I literally felt sick to my stomach… I don’t even want to watch anymore…

    I really hope Max can get out and be able to live his life again

  308. Peterborough Habs Fan says:

    Nothing less than the remainder of the season plus playoffs will be appropriate. Having said that, we all that NHL managment are a bunch of gutless idiots, so my guess is a meagre 2 games.

  309. kostadis says:

    How terribly sad. How unbelievably sad. There is a lot of talk of thinking about Max’s life. But really. He was a hockey player. And if he can’t play hockey, then a large chunk of his life is over. 

    It’s an accident you say. Well okay. I don’t think Chara wanted to kill Max’s career. But then again most spontaneous acts of murderous violence are not pre-mediated. 

    This was an act of evil. Chara may have been temporarily driven insane at the idea of being undressed by Max on the blue line. And he may have wanted to hurt him. But the act was evil. It was a moment of unbelievable insanity. And right now he’s the guy who destroyed another man’s life. 

    And to have him have the right to play the game seems wrong.

    It’s just feels so unbelievably wrong.

    I don’t know if I can watch hockey again. I know I will but it might be a very, very, very long time. 

  310. kempie says:

    I’m out.

    Fuck this.

  311. adam76 says:

    see you next week!

  312. Bugs says:

    Hockey gods, we call on you now.

    Maybe an “accident” to a Bruin player next game. No ill will or anything, just on a regular hockey play. Totally innocent and without any relation to anything happening in past games, just a freak, unintentional “accident”.

    Like what happened yesterday, hockey gods.

    Thanks.

  313. adam76 says:

    Really shocked the HAbs Inside out server is still up.

    Chara should have gotten 5 games for the hit, zero is a joke.  

    Anyone remember the last time the league screwed us on a suspension?  1955?  We made the league regret the decision, lets do it again.

    Also for all you fans who are done with NHL hockey, get a grip.  You can’t just stop being a Habs fan because the league screwed up discipline again.  You who “quit” today will all be back, maybe with different alias, but you will be back.

  314. anonymoose says:

    Can people please stop calling him MaxPac now?

  315. PattyBoy31 says:

    My video spoof of the league’s spoof of a decision:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K0_1pKzXaI

     

  316. ed lopaz says:

    the fans in Florida, Phoenix and and Atlanta are the smartest NHL fans of all.

    They stopped caring about the NHL a long time ago.

     

  317. Propwash says:

    Absolute horse****!

  318. Habs4Lyfe says:

    Habs 4 Lyfe

     

     

    Players on Twitter

    Current and former NHL players weigh in on Chara/Pacioretty incident

    • GeorgesLaraque After hearing from Max Pacioretty that Chara was holding him down and Max couldn’t get out of the way, it changes everything, bad ruling!

    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/story/2011/03/10/sp-bettman-gary.html

  319. Danno says:

    This is an absolute outrage. I’m sick to my stomach.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  320. Habs64 says:

    Eklund says Chara suspended 15 games

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  324. Zenneth1967 says:

    Hockey sucks, baseball sucks, basketball always sucked and the NFL will eventually suck..

    Why? The people in charge.  The NHL..I don’t think I have ever hated a man more than Colin Cancer Campbell.  He is a punch drunk boob who has the IQ of an oven mitt. 

    I wish the worst for him and his a-whole son and I ask all of you Habs fans to do the same.  Collectively we can create enough negative energy/karma to take both of them down.  His son with a skate to the neck and his dad with violent diarrhea.  Who is with me?

     

    “Every human being is the author of his own health or disease.”

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    And at the present, I suggest we discuss the means to carry out our bloody revenge.

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It can be difficult coming up with suggestions about the right way to produce a service as giant and established as Microsoft capable to help keep speed using a rapidlychanging tech surroundings. Would breaking the business into a client agency and an enterprise organization help achieve this objective? (In some cases I believe so ….) Other thoughts about how – and when – Microsoft can grow to be significantly more modern?

  331. NightRyder says:

    A team-wide, 24-hour flu epidemic and a lineup of primarily Hamilton Bulldogs and Cincinnati Cyclones might be fun.

    You know what’s sad? A part of me would like to bring up Jimmy Bonneau, with the sole purpose of taking out Chara’s teeth with a special graphite message. This is why the league needs to fix this problem.

     

  332. CharlottetownHabbies says:

    Exactly!  That’s what I was trying to get at.  The courts are useless in these matters, but if the Bruins lost half a million in gate plus concessions things’d change fast.

  333. Captain aHab says:

    Pretty sure there is a HOOGE fine if a team does that.

  334. observer says:

    Bettman will do little. Meaningless reg season slight suspension dfor bruins who get him back for playoffs. anything less than remainder of entire season and playoffs proves jacobs is his best friend on the owners side. no coincidence no canadian team won a cup since the dwarfs first year as commissioner/robber.

  335. DearyLeary says:

    Only one game left, in Boston.  Not a bad idea.

  336. Chuck says:

    Interesting idea…

  337. LA Loyalist says:

    Scenario to be discussed:

    NHL lays down lame suspension (5 games or less) on Chara.

    My suggestion is that PG and Bob hold a press conference and announce that The Montreal Canadiens hereby decline to field a team against Boston Bruins for the rest of the season and will forfeit the 2 points per game (not sure how many we have left).

    Do you not think this will make Gary B load his diaper? If ever there was an opportunity to take the initiative on this issue and force the NHL to create – and enforce – a clear and actual standard for these hits this is it.

    Habs as the historically dominant team in the NHL has the credibility to do this. The NHL needs Montreal as one of its showcase teams. No? It’s a U.S. league now? Fine. then we can have our own Canadian league for Canadians and screw them.

    What Americans don’t understand is that we don’t have to play for $millions. We would play for a regular salary and good medical insurance.

    Hell, I’m paying to play! For me and my kid!

    Screw Gary Bettman to the nearest tree if he blows this.

     

  338. ClaytonM says:

    It wouldn’t upset me if we forfeited the March 24th game and left the bruins having to refund 20k+ ticket holders, but if we don’t have a playoff spot clinched by then, and then fail to make it to the playoffs by a point…let’s just say the commentariat would be unhappy.

    The other option is to pull a Slap Shot and dress some prison inmates for the rematch. Ogie Ogilthorpe FTW!

  339. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    pretty broad brush your painting with there propwash…

    I advocate adding some toughness to the lineup… example WHITE, last night, case closed… example MARA last night, case closed… Habs win case closed.

    how can you even suggest a shred of support towards the animal and his actions last night.

  340. Propwash says:

    Nowhere in my post did I show any shred of support in Charas hit on MaxPac, no need to put words in my mouth, or keyboard as it were. I am happy White sent a message, but I don’t recall him scoring any goals.

  341. punkster says:

    Assinine comment…again.

    ***Subbang!!!***

  342. Fansincebirth says:

    I ain’t no religious man but I’m praying for a speedy recovery for Max. To see a man’s career cut short like this would be a travesty.

    A quick shout out to the Boston trainer who helped out on the ice. At least there are some decent things lurking on that team.

    WTF was that crap by Luchump on Poo Poo at the end of the game and then the other Neanderthal on PK?

    “Without the strength of the past, the team may face a choice – to win, or to be French-Canadian?” — Ken Dryden

  343. observer says:

    ain’t no religious man either but I’m praying for disease and injury for chara and julien and each member of their families!

  344. CalgaryHabsFan says:

    Since the fracture is not displaced it is entirely possible Max could be pain free and able to play in that short a time frame.

    That being said I think 3 to 4 months is more reasonable because if he rushes back he could easily reinjure the vertebrae and have it turn into soemthing a lot more serious.

    I think the severe concussion is the more serious of the injuries though.

  345. S_Dot says:

    Any truth to the renaud lavoie tweet that says that Max only out 2-4 weeks with the fracture? 

    Pacioretty: neck fracture-out 2 to 4 weeks only for that injury. He’s got a plastic cast around the neck.

  346. observer says:

    if his career is ruined he will bankrupt the nhl in a lawsuit for having an unsafe workplace because they wanted more room for more seats – TURNBUCKLE BETTMAN’S HEAD INTO IT!

  347. HABSsince92 says:

    Totally disgusted by this………….Max Pac’s career is most certainly over. Chara is a POS as others have mentioned he knew exactly who he was hitting and where on the ice it was. This is no different than Bertuzzi and Moore. Chara was out for revenge from the previous games scrums. I hate the NHL….Bettman, Campbell need to go away forever.

     

     

    The Scott Gomez line………..where wingers go to die.

  348. Drive_For_25 says:

    This is worse than Bertuzzi on Moore.  That was a little flukey that Moore broke his neck on that play if you ask me, however Bertuzzi was trying to hurt him no doubt about it and should have been banned from the league if you ask me.  Chara is the same type of thing where he was trying to hurt him no doubt about it, probably not that bad but he was trying to hurt him.  The thing that makes this A LOT worse than Bertuzzi is the probability of being so badly injured on this type of play.  I can’t see many guy coming out of a dangerous play like that without a severe concussion or broken neck, and Max Pac has both.  Lifetime ban should be the only consequence for this type of hit, whether you intended on that end result or not.

  349. observer says:

    even the maurice richard suspension/riot happened after a bruins/ canadiens game.

  350. Propwash says:

    That’s pretty rich, coming from the guy who pretty much advocates the Habs to be a goon squad.

  351. mrhabby says:

    1..i believe the attorney general of the province has to give direction to the local police force to press charges but only if a criminal act was committed.

    2..see #1.

    3…see #1.

    iam no lawyer but thats my take on it.

  352. joeybarrie says:

    Because then Montreal would have about 30 players in jail for assault and other indictable offenses.  Same for the 30 other teams, and most of professional sports. Including Boxers and Wrestlers…… HUH….

    We need to be realistic.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  353. Bugs says:

    Excrement this, excrement that. I always knew you had poop on the mind, but this…this is Turet’s Syndrome poop.

    Damn, “professor”; pull yourself together, why dontcha, afore you go runnin after Scarlet in the burnin fields over here.

  354. lefreak says:

    come on man, give me a break please.

     

    I’m a habs fan too, but this is going way too far. Take off the Bleu Blanc Rouge glasses for a minute and smell the coffee. Many Habs fans on the internet make the rest of us look like idiots because of comments like yours.

    Don’t take it the wrong way, but sit back, breathe deep, and try and see this from all sides instead of just yours. Criminal charges? sigh.

  355. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    why haven’t the local police authorities pressed charges?

    why was chara the excrement allowed to leave the city?

    why was chara the excrement allowed to leave Canada?

    he committed an indictable offense…the “excrement”, his employers and the NHL must be held accountable for this. The mayor or governor of Quebec needs to take a stand,

    i can’t believe we let this poisonous excrement slip out of our hands..

  356. avatar_58 says:

    I’ve yet to read a single one of your posts that isn’t trollish, narrow minded or just plain idiocy. Congrats on rising to the occasion once again.

  357. Captain aHab says:

    Any way HIO posters could get a get well soon card to Max Pac?

  358. observer says:

    Its Bettman’s hands? So what would anyone expect? Especially concerning his friend’s team and their best defenseman in a year they are a contender, a contender especially so as they just ended the season for a top player on one of the worst competitors. I mean they have now lost 9 of the last 11 meetings with the Habs.

  359. AH says:

    Fractured vertebra in the neck…how close I wonder was it to being a completely broken neck resulting in paralysis or even (heaven forbid) potential death?!

     

     So folks, here we have ANOTHER defining moment (of many) in the the NHL..will they get it right or will they blow it…yet again? Sadly, I think we all know the answer.

    It’s times like this I’m ashamed to call hockey our “National Sport”

  360. fbkj says:

    actually our national sport is lacrosse

    just sayin

  361. Bill says:

    Can’t get much closer.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  362. kazmojo says:

    Very close. The spinal column runs down the middle of the spine, branching out after some of the vertebrae. Functions that control breathing and keep the heart beating start very high, maybe between the first and second vertebrae. If you damage the spinal column that high, you can very well die.

  363. Ton says:

    very good point, excellent…..i always said with hockey players playing more lacrosse has a second sport rather than soccer that it would influence it this way……

  364. fbkj says:

    as adressed below

    just sayin

  365. fbkj says:

    … oh no you didnt

  366. wd40 says:

    Thus, on May 12, 1994, Canada’s National Sport Act (Bill C-212) became law, reading: “To recognize hockey as Canada’s National Winter Sport and lacrosse as Canada’s National Summer Sport”.

    Who’s more pedantic now EH!?  :P

  367. HalifaxHabs says:

    actually we have two national sports, hockey and lacrosse

    just sayin’

  368. observer says:

    I watched the game on NESN last night. When the telecast started statements by Habs players after that last game and before this one were scrolled up the screen. About 8 to 10 of them showing each player who said it’s name – all angry at the Bruins, then the screen switched over to the icerink.

  369. wd40 says:

    They need to be like that so Bruins fan can relate to them.

  370. Hobie Hansen says:

    Another thing that has to be addressed is the group of idiots that call the Bruins games on the TV or radio. I’m not sure who they are or if I’m listening to the TV or Radio broadcast when I watch a Bruins clip on the net but man they are completely stupid.

    You’d think that the NHL would step in and tell them to clean up their act and call the game the way it is and not act like a couple guys from the WWE or UFC.  

    These guys from NESN or what have you try and make the fans from Boston believe that cheap shots and fights are the most important part of the game.

    Saying things like “Chara is going to take Pacioretty’s head off” and garbage like that is a complete joke. I’ve never heard them admit a Bruins player was on the wrong end of a fight either. Being a bit of a homer is expected but these idiots are telling complete lies and spreading hate!  

    I’m sure there are little kids from the Boston area listening to their crap and are being taught the complete opposite of honor and respect.

    I grew up as a kid playing organized and outdoor hockey and we’d have fights on the ice and at the end of the night we’d shake hands and I’d try and not hurt anyone. Part of that is because I’d hear the guys on television speaking of respecting your opponents, not picking on smaller players and so on.

    The idiots on the Television and Radio in Boston are mixing words and preaching cheap, dirty and disrespectful hockey and it’s totally embarrassing to listen to it for a second.

  371. sillywalk says:

    I’m trying to comprehend something about this hit. Everyone who says that this was clean, anywhere else on the ice it was just a brush, blah blah blah, obviously forgets a very important factor; the same can be said for any boarding or charging call where the recipient hits the wall and gets concussed. It’s a hit, made near a dangerous obstacle. They DO still suspend/fine players for those hits, right? Hello? Head-shot discussions, fines, suspensions, tough talk. These are all over the place this year because Crosby is injured. How can anyone say that Chara should not face suspension?

  372. fbkj says:

    k now explain in general

  373. fbkj says:

    why do you state obvious facts like intrepid news youve uncovered?

  374. observer says:

    i was responding to a stupid statement! yes youre right it was NOT obvious to that above poster.

  375. Chris says:

    It really doesn’t matter if you have benches on opposite sides or the same side.  You will still have perpendicular sheets of glass at both ends of either bench, meaning that there would still be four 5-10 foot danger zones spaced out over 551 feet of boards.

  376. observer says:

    PRE- BASKETBALL DWARF SHYSTER LAWYER BETTMAN – BENCHES ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE RINK! – TSN —– “when Bruins defenceman Zdeno Chara ran him into the turnbuckle that frames the glass partition between the players’ benches.”

  377. Habnofear says:

    Dude ,there was no thinking…..A full grown athlete who is 6’3″ at full-speed into a turnbuckle head first is a DEATH SENTINCE!

  378. showey47 says:

    Well said tony.

  379. fun police says:

    Did Chara intend to break maxpax’s neck?  most likely not.  Did Chara try and hit MaxPax into the turnbuckle?  I think the video shows he did?  When someone goes out and drinks and then decides to drive home, did he intend on injuring someone when he “accidently” collides with another car?  When bertuzzi hit moore from behind, did he think im going to break his neck?  Of course not, but does that even matter.  there are actions and resulting consequences.  I think chara fully intended on pushing maxpax into the turnbuckle without thinking of the full ramifications.  Chara should get a ridiculously long suspension but will probably get 3-5 games.

    let me ask you this.  Cammalari is suspended for one game for a slash to the back of a player’s leg.  i know it is apples and oranges, but a three game chara suspension would seem like a catastrophe.  

  380. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    that is his NAME… EXCREMENT… sorry if it hurt your feelings, to bad.

  381. observer says:

    attempted murder

  382. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    its called assault causing bodily harm.

  383. mrhabby says:

    yes to assault.

  384. HABSsince92 says:

    Totaly disgusted by this………….Max Pac’s career is most certainly over. Chara is a POS as others have mentioned he knew exactly who he was hitting and where on the ice it was. This is no different than Bertuzzi and Moore. Chara was out for revenge from the previous games scrums. I hate the NHL….Bettman, Campbell need to go away forever.

     

     

    The Scott Gomez line………..where wingers go to die.

  385. Topham says:

    I think I know what ds stands for.

    Moore gets his neck broken and has won a lottery? Pacioretty getting injured doesn’t give you the soap box to disparage everyone you don’t know anything about. The truth of the matter is, no player “scrub” in your eyes or not should have to worry about having their neck broken during a professional hockey game from an avoidable act. The reason for the punishment is to deter the risky and ill-advised behaviour. There is a precedent for this, it’s the law we live by in the real world.

    Topham
    Lions in Winter: http://www.lionsinwinter.ca

  386. ds says:

    Moore was a scrub who took a cheap shot on a superstar (Naslund) he got what was coming to him the next game, unfortunately it was extreme and he got hurt badly, but he did not have clean hands in the incident, he knew there would be payback, they should have just benched him, it’s not like he was a great player or anything.

     

    Look through this thread how many ppl want Chara cheap shotted, it’s the exact same reaction Bertuzzi had and now he is paying the price for it.

  387. lefreak says:

    did you see the part where i said “let’s try and look at the positives”?

     

    What is done is done, and no matter what you may or may not like we have to live with it and keep playing. Do you think the League will just say, “Chara can’t play until Pacioretty can.”.

     

    The answer is no. So instead of pot, how about i hook you up with a guy that can sell you a gram of reading comprehension really cheap.

    This kind of thing has been happening in the NHL all year, and years before that, so those of us who pay attention to the game know what is coming. This kind of thing would piss me off when it happened to players on other teams, most people here only care when it happens to us. Sorry but opinions of people like his are completely biased and therefore totally invalid in my eyes.

  388. ds says:

    There have been worse plays in the NHL, this was clearly an accident.  Chara will get suspended, is it equal to losing Pac possibly for his entire career, hell no.  Pac was really bringing his A-Game, this was a freak accident, there is no comparison to the Moore incident, but even with Moore, it’s not like he was an innocent victim, he took liberties on Naslund, so Bertuzzi took him out.  Both Bertuzzi & Naslund were stars back then, Moore was a nobody.  It’s the equivalent of some no name taking out Cammelleri so the next game Plekanacs takes him out, unfortunately the scrub gets his neck broken and has won a lottery. 

    The solution is to get rid of the instigator penalty, let teams fight it out, nobody gets badly injured in a fight, and it makes teams play more responsibly.  Last year after Cooke took out Savard, the whole NHL brass attended the next game to ensure there was no retaliation, that was not fair.

  389. Kain292 says:

    did you see the part where I wrote that Chara should be suspended for as long as Pac is out?
    No? Neither do I. Because I never wrote it.

    What I am criticising is your assessment that the Bruins losing Chara for X (probably less than 5) games is worse than us losing Pacioretty for an unknown amount of time.

    So how about instead of you referring me to someone that sells reading comprehension, you just go ahead and buy that gram for me. You enjoy it.

    Being a Habs fan is a way of life, and a great one at that.

  390. king ddd says:

    chara is a moron and people who  back up chara are morons. FFS he tried to take out Pax’s life. i was watching the game watching patch motionless on the ice almost brought me to tears. The kid’s promising hockey career is in jeopordy. Thanks a lot you big ugly mofo. I hope you are satisifed after you got what you want it. what now?

    Get well max, i hope you come back and have a great hovceky career.

     

    ** Buck Fruins **

  391. HabsChick says:

    I said an ounce and I’m only comparing him to the others on TSN.

    I just don’t see him getting more than 10 games.  Not saying he doesn’t deserve it…just saying I doubt he will.

  392. HabFanSince72 says:

    I wonder who will be the first d**k to come out and blame the instigator rule. My money’s on Ron McLean.

  393. HabFarmer says:

    I believe that Moore’s lawsuit is just about to come before the courts. The whole timing of this most recent “incident” is really kind of spooky.  I think it’s obvious that Z guided Patch’s head into the stanchion.  The replays show it clearly.  A hefty suspension is in order, although we all know the likelihood of that happening.

    I saw a TV documentary once about Z’s work for charity and how he climbed Mt. Kilimanjaro for Right to Play.  I respected him for that – not so much now.

     

    A man’s attitude… a man’s attitude goes some ways. The way his life will be. Is that somethin’ you agree with?

  394. jbroderi says:

    that was a good article.  A journalist who cares abouthe sport we love and the men who play it, not about the fact that his team might lose atheir best D am for a few games.  He gave some sobering advice and I commend him for not stating the status quo from beantown!

     

    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  395. zozotheclown says:

    Reports are saying this is an injury to the C4 vertebrae, which is bad, but thats its non-displaced, which is good. Non-displaced usually means no spinal cord injury according to google, which is great. To put in perspective Keven Everetts career was ended on a C4 injury with spinal cord damage, so this was close, very close. Thank god the injury is not worse then it is, but we’ll still have to wait for actual medical reports to come out before we know if he’ll be able to full recover.

  396. OneTimer says:

    The average Bruins’ fan reaction is just disgusting: “Clean hit. No suspension. Chara’s not a dirty player. Just terrible bad luck is all. I do feel really bad for poor Max Pac though, speedy recovery!” Thanks, *&$%#@$s.

  397. sh00n says:

    You sure about that? Zdeno’s been after Max ever since the push. I’d say the intent was there.

  398. kirkiswork says:

    There is a story on RDS about an article written in the Boston Globe in which the writer condems Chara’s actions and 60% of respondants feel he should be suspended.

    He also goes on to say that if P.K. had done the same thing to Bergeron that they would want P.K’s head.

    I am not in any way defending Boston but it just depends where you read.

    I hope Chara gets the season but I highly doubt it.

    http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/316299.html

  399. CharlottetownHabbies says:

    I just don’t expect them to, too slippery a slope based on how they choose to deal with these types of “incidents”.  What if Ovechkin or Crosby end somebodies career?

    I don’t think involving the courts would have any impact either.  Likely be hung up for years and then swept under the rug when we’ve forgotten all about it.  Quickest way to enact change is to have fans stop paying attention, losing real revenues……

  400. OneTimer says:

    Oh, I forgot a gem in the litany of excuses: “If this happened to a player on any other team, it wouldn’t be a big deal.” Can you believe these clowns?

  401. Just A Guy says:

    They shoot animals that have harmed humans.

    “Tell him he’s Wayne Gretzky.” – Oilers coach Ted Green, after Shaun Van Allen suffered a concussion and couldn’t remember who he was.

  402. LA Loyalist says:

    Weighing the prejudice to the victim is partly determinent of punishment in the Canadian/American legals systems, both of which derive from British Common Law.

    Please explain to me how the NHL is excluded from this? As a private entity they can just make up their own rules? Whatever they may be?

    Please explain.

  403. Barts says:

    So I know Tom Pyatt is waiting in the wings, but the Habs should look at bringing up LW Nigel Dawes. 33 goals in the A this year, including 6 in six games with the Bulldogs, 9pts overall since he arrived.

  404. Chuck says:

    Ok… so how do we guarantee that we meet these bozos in the playoffs?

    Oh, and Lucic needs to be kicked in the pills, too. Preferably with a sharp skate.

  405. habsfannfld says:

    Fracture of the C4 Vertebrae can lead to paralysis of the arms, legs and diaphragm. Thankfully, Max’s injury is non-displaced. We were very close to losing a great young talent last night. I just hope Max can get back to his normal day-day living as soon as possible.

  406. Shiloh says:

    Anything less than 20 games is unreasonable. Anything less than 10 is despicable.

  407. Habnofear says:

    When Chara attempted to cripple or kill Max my children and wife seen it right after I gasped and….You should of seen the fear and horror on their faces…… This hit was ATTEMPTED MURDER and  way worse that the Bertuzzi incident IMO! Ban that fk’er and DO IT NOW!

  408. TheDagger says:

    Nope… the Montreal Zoo.

  409. Ton says:

    why not, suing the nhl or the bruins is an embarrassment, think of our side, lafleur, lemieux, beliveau, gainey, prime ministers, sometimes its gloves off, americans are ruling the way we play the game, the ethics of it etc.

  410. MTLForever says:

    more intent on bertuzzi’s part. chara did force patchy’s head though

  411. Hobie Hansen says:

    I’m honestly not trying to sound like a cave dweller here but the NHL is leaving me no choice.

    If they are going to let guys like guys like Cooke or Chara get away with deliberately injuring other players and give them 5-10 game suspensions instead of 30 game suspensions or greater, maybe each team has to go out and retaliate by injuring the star players on their teams.

    We’ve had our Stanley Cup chances diminished 2 years in a row by players purposely trying to hurt our star players.

    If I’m Gauthier, I call up Conboy, Henry or whoever before our next meeting with the Bruins and I instruct them to skate right up to one of the Bruins’ star players and two hand them right in the ankle.

    If they league doesn’t do anything what are we supposed to do?

  412. rocketsglare says:

    All Habs fans are thinking of you Max and wishing for your quick and complete recovery.

    Go Habs Go!

  413. CharlottetownHabbies says:

    Don’t bring the courts in. 

     

    I’d like to see rest of the Bruins 2010-11 season/playoffs for suspension.  Not gonna happen.  2-3 games if any, the argument being they can’t link severity of injury to suspension.

     

    Get well Max, come back stronger than ever.

  414. CowtownCanadien says:

    Todd Bertuzzi didn’t mean to break Steve Moore’s neck either. Same crime same penalty.

  415. blu3chip says:

    Either ban Chara for life from NHL.

    Or this year Leafs’ 1st rounder + their 1st rounder next year.

    I’m more focused in MaxPac’s recovery.

  416. ArmyFan says:

    I just read Arpon Basu’s article and exactly like him, I also had a minute where I was convinced that Max was dead.  Sick to my stomach doesn’t even begin to describe how I felt.

    I have a lot of thoughts on Chara, most of which I held prior to this incident. I won’t share them here. Nor will I speculate on if/when Max will be back, and what it means for the team.

    Right now I am simply relieved that a young man is alive and not paralyzed.  Max – God bless and speedy recovery.

  417. blu3chip says:

    Montreal police should have come in and detain Chara.

  418. habs365 says:

    you know the excuse they’re gonna use…max-pac was shorter or the head injury would not have happened…chara would have pushed him into the boards by pushing on his shoulder instead of his head if had a-been a taller player..so we can only give him a couple of games in this situation……

  419. MTLForever says:


    Gillies gets suspended then comes back and gets suspended but if you watch the second time he gets suspended for a “head shot” which it actually wasnt then Chara best be getting suspended and not just for a few games.

  420. WarHero says:

    Simply disgusted by that hit. Just disgusted.

    I love a good hit, but never like that, no matter who the player is.

    Thoughts and prayers with Max for his recovery!

    As for the suspension … 2 – 3 games max … should be more

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  421. Gorges_the_great says:

    When should we be expecting a verdict on the suspension?

  422. Captain aHab says:

    Can’t wait to hear the justification for the slap on the wrist.

  423. LA Loyalist says:

    Boston should have to give us a player or draft pick equivalent to the value of Pax to this team or Boston should be deprived of Chara for for however long Pax is out. In law this is called prejudice, where the damage to the victim and victim’s family are weighted. 

    Chara has pretty much screwed us for the playoffs, we don’t have the depth to absorb this. We have no one equivalent to bring up from Hamilton.

    Montreal’s senior management need to draw a line in the sand here. Who else is next on our team to be targeted? Cammi, Plex? Boivin or PG and Bob Gainey need to have a press conference and read the riot act. We need to start showing some leadership and balls in Montreal. What would Serge Savard do? What would George Gillette have done, for that matter, he seemed like a classy guy. Cripes.

    I feel like puking, I can’t work. Someone herein suggested civil litigation, the problem is it’s very expensive and I think Steve Moore’s case is still unresolved.

     

  424. NightRyder says:

    The kid has a broken neck and it only merits a phone call to Chara from the league?

    Disgusting.
    I love old-time hockey but Chara had motive (he has been chasing Pacioretty since his OT celebration) and photos and video clearing show him ramming Pacioretty’s head into the stanchion.
    I hear all the apologists saying Chara didn’t mean to hurt him – the same clowns who don’t think David Steckel did anything wrong when he put Sidney Crosby, the league’s best player, out for an extended period.
    There has to be severe penalties for any hit to the head, regardless of intent. It is the only way to deal with this problem, but the league doesn’t have the balls to do it.  
    Someone is going to die on the NHL ice.
     

  425. Ton says:

    hockey is a political american industry that employs former players that are bums or wishy washy. mario lemieux is not, gretky is!!!! listening to jack edwards call for Max’s head summarizes it all, pre meditated and he knew what he was doing. listening to Boston’s GM that it was a good play says it all,  sad for our game……….the answer is criminal charges…….could you imagine, the canadiens glorified organization with the backing of lemieux, Stevie Y suing the bruins or thel league, only way NHL will change things……

  426. joeybarrie says:

    For me the severity of MaxPacs injury basically erases any kind of suspension Chara will get. 2 games, 10 games 100, honestly who cares. I don’t give a rats a** about Chara. So I don’t think i will be shocked or really care that he gets 2-3 games, which is what i expect. Intent, no intent. WHATEVER, man. I need to know about MaxPac. In the scheme of things, Chara will return and MaxPac may not. And now Chara has to live with himself.

    This I hate, don’t you know MaxPac has 4 million family members right now. The possibilities with his injury are astronomical. The potential damage is high, and what is known is so little. So its going to be a LONG road until I feel better about Max.

    EVERYONE SAY A FEW PRAYERS…. I don’t know what else to say.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  427. HNS says:

    Knowing this mismanaged league, I bet Chara’s suspension will only be a slap on the wrist. No doubt. F U Bettman u retarded dwarf.

  428. Ferguson-22 says:

    The sports world’s spotlight is shining big time on the NHL brass right now. Their disciplinary decision will make a huge statement regarding violence and player well-being in our favorite sport. If they were truly serious about getting rid of the reckless and extrememly dangerous behaviors on the ice, they could show it with a significant suspension and fine. Of course, they’ve yet to show any example of being serious about this. I’m for a long suspension and major fine to the player and team. I’d say the same thing for any player on any team that incurred this act – not just because I’m a Habs fan. Do the right thing NHL!

  429. HardHabits says:

    A piece of me died a few moments ago. Chara should be suspended for the remainder of the season and the play-offs.

    How they let Bertuzzi back in the league is beyond me and in retrospect reprehensible.

    The league better do something fast and quick and it better be severe. If this goes by unpunished or with a slap on the wrist then the NHL is a disgrace.

    Canada should draft a law that whenever something like this happens in sport the player be arrested and charged with aggravated assault.

    I would also favour a civil lawsuit.

    A suspension without pay and fine would not be enough IMO.

    It’s a sad day for hockey.

  430. habs365 says:

    I wish Max-Pac all the best and a speedy return to health…to kinda get of the subject…I’m assuming they’re gonna bring in a replacement for his line till max returns…hope JM don’t break up the lines…the team is doing really well with the four lines we have now…maybe Nigel Dawes would fit with Gomez and Gionta…just a suggestion…but whats more important right now is max-pac’s health…he was doing so good…what a way to ruin it..hope Boston is knocked out in the first round…….

  431. ZepFan2 says:

    There is some good news.

    The vertebrae is NOT displaced. This is good news. It allows to heal faster and easier. Also, this means no spinal cord worries.

    ———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~

  432. observer says:

    no that is group think! and what the media is made up of – groupthinking liberal geniuses in their own minds. and that is about what they have decided to think together.

  433. Danno says:

    Chara should go to f@cking jail for what he did.

     

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  434. Habfan29 says:

    Chara should get at least 21 games, the same amount the Dale Hunter got for Cross Checking Pierre turgeon and seperating his shoulder. I know Hunter’s rep was not as good, but Chara is no Angel, he is a dirty player…

  435. HAB-PROFESSOR says:

    intelligence????????????? 5 games?????????   is that what MAX PAX is getting?

    despicable and spineless

  436. DearyLeary says:

    Not just intelligence, but integrity.

  437. HabsChick says:

    Gord Miller: 

    @GMillerTSN: Since so many people are asking today, I think Chara should get at least five games.

    One guy at TSN that might actually have an ounce of intelligence.

  438. JustSomeguy says:

    Even if Max comes back, some piece of walking dog **** will target his head.

    Here’s the thing that gets me.

    A bunch of hockey people have said, “Anywhere else on the ice, that hit is an interference penalty.” Uhhhh … yeah?

    That’s like saying, “It ain’t a big deal being hit into the boards from behind. Anywhere else on the ice, it’s maybe a two minute penalty.”

    These are the best hockey players in the world. They have spent 20+ years on the ice honing their skills. One of these skills is knowing precisely where you are on the ice. Another is knowing how your body moves. A third is knowing where other players are. Chara is a talented players; he KNEW he was getting close to the stanchion. He KNEW Max was about to slip past him. Instead of holding Max or tripping him, he delivered a deliberate late hit. He got his hands up. He rode Max along the boards.

    My guess? Chara wanted to send Max a message (see previous posts on altercations from earlier this year). He wanted to show him who really swings the biggest stick on the ice with a li’l cheap shot. Nothing egregious.

    Only … only …

    He f***ed up. And instead of a bruised shoulder, he delivered a concussion and a fractured vertebra.

    Chara’s gotta be held accountable for his cheap shot (and it WAS cheap — no one disputes it was late). And the league, NHLPA, owners, and GMs have gotta do something to protect players from otherwise preventable head injuries. One way to do this is to punish players who deliver head shots, regardless of intent.

  439. Mad Habber says:

    Actually I thought PG was Mr. Burns or is it Smithers? And Martin was the count from Sesame Sreet…

  440. jbroderi says:

    I think he means Bettman, not PG.  Otherwise, the big Canadian market line makes no sense.  PG is the count from Sesame Street and Bettman is count chocula.  everyone knows that!!

    “I’ll take potent potables for 500, Alex” JB

  441. observer says:

    this goes back to the habs 3-2 overtime win in overtime on jan 8 and pacoretty was celebrating the gamewinner and chara went after him. JULIEN IS TO BLAME FOR EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED THE NEXT 2 GAMES BETWEEN THE TEAMS. JULIEN STILL HATES THE HABS AND GAINEY GAUTHIER FOR FIRING HIM.

  442. ds says:

    I think Chara wanted to splatter Pac into the boards, first he slashed Pac’s leg to slow him down but Pac kept going, then Chara tried to crush him into the boards but Pac was too fast and his momentum carried him into the turnbuckle.  it’s an unfortunate tragedy, and I hope Max Pac the best in life.  I don’t think Chara’s intention was for what happened. 

  443. Kain292 says:

    You really think that them losing Chara for a few games is worse than us losing our best developing forward for.. maybe ever? At best until next year?

    What kind of grass are you smoking, and where can I get some?

    Being a Habs fan is a way of life, and a great one at that.

  444. lefreak says:

    *sigh*

     

    Young player finally playing to his potential gets lambasted and now has a possible career threatening injury. Smells like Zednik all over again….I hope for Max that he can get through this, forget about hockey right now, it isn’t the most important thing.

     

    That being said fans on both sides are absolutely insane. Some of the stuff I’m reading is ridiculous in both camps. Pro tip: try watching a few games once in awhile that don’t involve your favourite teams, so that you may learn to look at things without bias.

    Chara does not deserve 0 games, but for the loonies that are saying criminal charges and the rest of the season, get a grip. No one wants to see injuries like this, and I have always considered Chara to be somewhat scum (the good kind though, the kind you want on your team.), but what happened was surely not his intent in my eyes. He will get 5 plus games (fair in my eyes…intent or not you do the crime you do the time.) It was a stupid, a dangerous, a completely unescessary play for sure….but let’s not start comparing this to the Bertuzzi incident (didn’t see that on HIO, but that case has been popping up in opinions a lot on the net.) because this incident is not even comparable. Bertuzzi’s intent was a sure thing beyond a shadow of a doubt. This isn’t the case here no matter what the history between the 2 guys or the result was.

    Let’s look at the positives here.

    Max can move his extremities. He has the absolute best care and doctors money can buy. He will be looked after and given the best treatment possible. Let’s hope and pray for a speedy recovery.

    Max has been playing really well for us for sure…but the Bruins losing Chara for a few games is a bigger loss for them. We still have a shot at the division, so this might be that little push we need to get there. Boston has a great D core, but they don’t have another Chara.

    (Hopeful positive we will see) Maybe the League will finally take a look what is happening to all of their talent and finally realize that the discipline needs to be handed out by a 3rd party mediator with no allegiances to anyone but the rulebook. I know Cambell is removed from making this decision officially, but if you think he won’t be at least consulted unofficially you are dreaming. It is time to take the guesswork out of this stuff and pronounce itself once and for all on the issue. For sure things will never be black and white, but something really needs to be done to get as close to this as possible.

     

    Get well soon Max…

     

    and i don’t care if Chara is 10 feet tall…i don’t care who is on the ice. Gang jump the guy to show you are sticking up for a team mate. Stop letting people walk in our house and walk over us. I know we were winning on the scoreboard, but “veux ou veux pas” that lack of team toughness will mean that teams will still keep doing this to us. Hell don’t even drop the gloves if you don’t want to, but in the very least do something more than just making angry faces ffs.

  445. CrashTheNetCrashTheNet says:

    Lawsuit anyone?

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

  446. Captain aHab says:

    That’s what I was thinking too. His parents should lay a lawsuit of epic proportions on Chara since the league doesn’t seem to want to do much.

  447. DearyLeary says:

    Jesus.. get well Patches and take care of yourself, don’t rush back.

  448. nick says:

    I know a few guys around the office were discussing the same thing.  

  449. Drive_For_25 says:

    You’re definitely not.  Depending on the length of suspension, or suspension at all, I’ll really consider whether it’s worth watching anything but the Habs in the NHL.  I’ll always love hockey and watch it at some level but the NHL is just ruining the sport everyday they let this shit go on and worry about a team staying in Phoenix where it doesn’t belong in the first place.  Pathetic.

  450. kempie says:

    All this has left me questioning if I really want to continue watching the NHL and I bet I’m not the only one.

  451. DearyLeary says:

    This is the most important thing.

  452. adamg84 says:

    Canadiens aside…this kid needs to fully recover and be able to enjoy a normal life, get well Patches.

  453. punkster says:

    Assinine comment.

    ***Subbang!!!***

  454. HardHabits says:

    Stick to watching Glee.

  455. G-Man says:

    Wtf do you mean by that? IS it that you want him to employ the same goon tactics as Julien? Not acceptable.

  456. NightRyder says:

    Chara vs. Pacioretty is the main topic on sports radio in Vancouver as well.

    Hopefully, the fact this happened in a major Canadian market can get Count Chocula to sit up and take notice.

  457. Natrous says:

    I thought the same thing, but like a junkie who can’t quit the needle, I can’t quit hockey. One thing I CAN do however, is stop buying NHL merchandise. That will be my contribution to boycotting Gary Bettman’s absolute farce league in the hopes that something changes for the better.

  458. CharlottetownHabbies says:

    If we all stop watching things will change.  I’m afraid we are at a point where that is the only way.  Sad really. 

     

    I don’t even subscribe to a sports package anymore because I was sick of the BS that seems to hang over the NHL (really the only pro sport league I still follow).  I get all the info and insight I need here, don’t have to put up with the third rate commmentary and never have to see the useless violence unless I choose to.

  459. KenD29 says:

    Thx for the correction.!

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  460. adam76 says:

    oh – it was from behind now?

  461. observer says:

    the league will be sued for that turnbuckle they erected! and no one in the media has said a word about the obvious!

  462. sh00n says:
    Fun tidbit: 7 years ago to the day that Todd Bertuzzi hit Steve Moore from behind. Moore had 3 fractured vertebrae and a concussion. Yesterday, Max Pacioretty was hit from behind by Zdeno Chara and suffered 2 broken vertebrae and a severe concussion. Bertuzzi got a 20 game suspension (at the time tied for 4th longest ever) and had a civil lawsuit filed against him.

    NHL – next move is yours. Everyone is watching.

  463. HabFanSince72 says:

    They shuld name the Bruins and the NHL as co-conspirators.

     

  464. Kooch7800 says:

    Because it is a conference call it won’t be a long suspension. Even though this could really hurt Max’s career the NHL will never change in how they discipline (or lack their of).

    Get well Max. You will have to take care of yourself cause Colin Campbell prefers to have the Bruins do well in the playoffs!

  465. Thurston says:

    When do we find out what (if anything) the Big Dummy will get? Wasn’t the phone hearing at noon?

  466. sh00n says:

    http://twitpic.com/47s8ub

    Sure as hell wasn’t from the front, where Pacioretty could defend himself and was aware of it, was it?

    If you’re going to troll, at least don’t sound like a complete moron.

  467. Natrous says:

    Mike Murphy.

    I don’t think Tampa’s goalie is friends with Chara enough to call him so urgently.

  468. KenD29 says:

    Hopefully this news makes it to Mike Smith since he was in a hurry to have a “phone” interview with Chara, instead of waiting until later today or tomorrow morning.

     

    Tonight we skate with them, Tonight is our night!

  469. JIMVINNY says:

    A suspension isn’t enough.  Chara doesn’t deserve the privilege of ever playing hockey again.

  470. RGM says:

    When I first saw the hit last night, I said to Mrs. RGM that he could have broken his neck. I wish that I was wrong.

    Go Habs Go!

  471. smiler2729 says:

    I just hope Max can come back next year as the same player he was BC (Before Chara), somehow I don’t think so. Man, I’m bummed and still pissed.

    Not that I care but this also affects big dumb Chara, if he is human in there, will he be the same player?

  472. SeriousFan09 says:

    I was not watching hockey in the 80s, or the 90s. I did not see the head hits that crippled the careers of Paul Kariya, Eric Lindros and others. I still remember Koivu down on the ice after getting clipped in the eye by Justin William’s stick in the 2006 playoffs. I only saw the video of the hit that likely broke Marc Savard’s career, or the one that compromised David Booth’s.

    This is the second time I witnessed a potentially career-ending injury happen to a hockey player. Even if Pacioretty’s neck perfectly heals and his concussion is not career-threatening, can he ever be the same player again, knowing his neck bone is now permanently compromised from an earlier break? Can he really play his hard-nosed style of hockey again and be a successful power forward? A shining star in the Canadiens system may have been snuffed out forever, for no reason.

     

    - I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  473. NightRyder says:

    The guy has a broken neck, and this only merits a phone call to Chara?

  474. Spider-Man NL says:

    Chara is a ******* scumbag, if MaxPac career is done then Chara’s career should be too.

     

     

    but you watch, he won’t miss one single game.

  475. moan_for_moen says:

    Max Pacioretty called for disciplinary hearing on role in hit to Zdeno Chara’s reputation

    Montreal, QC- And in one moment, Zdeno Chara’s career changed. Hustling for the puck against reputed Montreal Canadiens diver, Max Pacioretty, Chara attempted a routine check on the streaking forward to separate him from the puck- which vanished from all replays- when Pacioretty attempted to sell an interference call by flinging himself face first into the stanchion, silencing the Bell Centre and forcing the referees to eject Chara from a close divisional rivalry game with seeding implications.

     

    Pacioretty knocked himself unconscious on the play and lay prone on the ice for several minutes as students from the National Theatre School of Canada dressed up as doctors loaded him onto a stretcher before sending him to the hospital for tests. The spectators were so taken in by Pacioretty’s performance, that they immediately booed the Bruins captain, even though according to Chara’s coach and teammates, he is not “that kind of guy”.

     

    Said Chara on the hit:

    “I was riding him out and unfortunately, I leaned and he jumped a bit and he hit the extension,” said Chara. “Obviously it wasn’t my intention to push him into the partition. Things happen fast. That’s not my style. I play hard, physical, but I never try to hurt someone.”

     

    Jacques Martin, the director of the Lord Chamberlin’s Men, did not drop the act even after the referee incorrectly awarded the Canadiens a 5 minute major for interference:

    “It’s serious when you see an injury like that,” said Montreal coach Jacques Martin. “The league has to deal with those issues. It’s not the first time. It seems to be getting worse and worse. It was a dangerous hit.”

     

    Following the hit, journalists rushed to the defence of Chara, pointing out that, upon watching replays of the hit, there was clearly no intent on the part of Chara to build the Bell Centre’s arena to include the middle stanchion that Pacioretty jumped into. Equally absurd is the claim coming from certain corners of the French press that Chara’s actions were clearly premeditated as evidenced by his degree in Architecture earned from the Technical University of Košice before undertaking his hockey career.

     

    When reached for comment in the Bruins dressing room, rookie Brad Marchand, clearly disgusted with what he sees as a lack of respect for the game, commented that “The Oscar’s were last week”.

     

    Pacioretty’s act was so convincing that doctors at the Montreal General wasted valuable public resources in submitting Pacioretty to a battery of tests that, perhaps inevitably, came back negative. Obviously also supporters of the Montreal Canadiens, the doctors kept Pacioretty overnight in the hopes of the NHL’s head office suspending Chara.

     

    Only time will tell if the league office will finally put its collective foot down and suspend Pacioretty for hurting Chara’s feelings and causing him to hide in the team bus until a PR executive convinced him to meet the media post-game.

    Either way, this rivalry continues to heat up and bear out the prophetic words of Marchand: “They like to get in and shoot their mouths of and then when you hit them they’ll dive down and fall easy.” Anticipation for the rematch in Boston at the end of the month is already drawing interest from various corners of the acting community, as Al Pacino and Anthony Hopkins have been rumoured to have bought tickets immediately after hearing of the controversy.

    With files from Associated Press.my friend wrote a great satire of it

     

  476. TripleX says:

    Damn you Chara!

    The best prospective power forward I have ever seen in a Montreal uniform.  Just when the kids of Eller, Maxpac, AK and DD looked like they were taking this team into another category namely elite status.

  477. MTLForever says:

    this could really destroy patchy and he was up and coming

  478. RiverviewCanadien says:

    I posted this last night, and I don’t feel any different

    Look, playing in the NHL allows people to commit vicious attacks and get away with it, don’t get me wrong, I like a big hit and out in the real world it is assault. But hockey is a physical sport.

    Players know they will be hit every night, but they put their own lives in the hands of the opposing team, they don’t want to be worried someone will do something stupid and dirty. How many times has Pronger stepped on a leg—that ain’t hockey. How many spears have been given out—that ain’t hockey. There is a line between physical hockey and then using the equipment available as a weapon.

    These guys should not be allowed to hide from the law. In some capacity when certain actions have taken place on the ice, they should be held accountable.

    I am mad, overeacting, I don’t think so. Chara should NEVER be allowed to play this sport again…and should be charged. Re-watch that hit, what a fucking asshole.

  479. SLYDER says:

    lets just hope the full extent of his injury was delivered to mike murphy, afterall, this isnt much different from the bertuzzi incident – regarding the result anyway

     

    2-5 games doesnt make sense with a severe concussion and a fractured neck – minimum 10?

     

    i am one of those who believes the criminal should be out until the victim returns…but we live in an imperfect world

  480. Sportfan says:

    Wow the people on tsn who have no “bias” are really dumb everyone who thinks its not s suspension would haver a different opinion if there favorite player had the same thing happen to them

  481. observer says:

    Bettman’s biggest team owner supporter is Bruins Jeremy Jacobs! But having said this he also knows Pacoretti if he loses his career, will sue the @ss of the NHL for an unsafe workplace by erecting a turnbuckle right on the boards in the middle of an open space. There was absolutely nothing wrong with having each bench on opposite sides. And have even your backup goalie sit with his team. There were no turnbuckles in those days before the basketball shyster NYC lawyer slithered his way into the Commissioners job.

  482. bolder says:

    Chara is a f***ing scumbag. Would like nothing more than to see that piece of shit get his f***ing face bashed in.

  483. MTLForever says:

    im still rattled. get well patchy. youre in everyone’s prayers

  484. OneTimer says:

    Habs are winning, Bruins goon it up.

    Bruins are winning, Bruins goon it up.

    And they have the balls to say we’re the dirty team? I can’t believe these cavemen Bruins fans.

  485. Graves says:

    From Elliotte Friedman’s twitter…

    Pacioretty agent RT @aschall21 Max sounds like himself. It is going to be a lot of work to heal, but his will power is one of his strengths.

    Good luck Max.

  486. Habs64 says:

    Bettman should have called him in for this. MIckey Mouse league.

  487. adam76 says:

    Richard riot 2011 anyone?

  488. HabFanSince72 says:

    “C3 4 and 5 keep the diaphragm alive”

     

  489. Danno says:

    I can’t believe this.

    “Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”

  490. Kain292 says:

    Poor Max.. I hope he gets better, but don’t rush it!

    Chara is a , piece of sh*t. I am so mad, so sad by this.

    Being a Habs fan is a way of life, and a great one at that.

  491. smiler2729 says:

    Kypreos says it’s 4-6 months recovery if surgery is required, a lot less if it isn’t.

    Chara is scum.

  492. sidhu says:

    We play Boston again on the 24th.  The NHL will suspend Chara for enough games so that Chara isn’t in the lineup against Montreal on the 24th.  So that’s about 8 games at least.


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