Four score and four years ago

This toaster will torch the CH logo into your whole wheat. Comes with a certificate of authenticity, too, because none of us want to eat counterfeit toast.

Red Fisher turned 84 yesterday, and celebrated (as it were!) by being interviewed by Mike Boone

A feast for the eyes

The first five years of the shootout, from NHL.com

• From The Hockey News: Top 10 NHL players who left the league to play in Russia

• Pretty cool Newsy Lalonde hockey card, if you’ve got a spare quarter-million dollars

• True story that Sergei bought one of these before he left for Nashville?

425 Comments

  1. Chorske says:

    LOL, Andrew! This guy is calling me a Price apologist.

    Pff.

  2. Fant-HAB-ulous says:

    Ya me too…

  3. Bill J says:

    LOL – I know that fealing.

    and allow me to say, way to take this banter for the humour I clearly intended it to be.

    Far too much tension on here normally, and always nice to joke around – no matter WHAT we dissagree on.

    😉

  4. Xtrahabsfan says:

    Only in the morning my Habs bro ,ouch….then its all good after my first cup o joe…

  5. Bill J says:

    lol – nice one.  My turn

    At least my avatar is a thing of beauty.

    Yours ?  More of a mirror breaking living nightmare.

  6. Xtrahabsfan says:

    But if I did that it would only leave stamp lickers like you,lol

  7. Bill J says:

    Perhaps you can learn something from cv – IE remove your mug from your avatar.  Would certainly improve the “view” around here.

     

  8. pic1983 says:

    I while back someone had posted a link to an article from 1999 where pierre mcguire gave 10 players to watch over the next 10 years. Well, 10 years later, I think one player on that list is a “serviceable” nhler, none of them have turned into superstars or are even the best player on their team.

    wish i could find that link…

  9. K-hab25 says:

    Normally I don’t respond to Trolls, but what the hey. First of all, neither guy has been apart of a cup winner last I checked. Secondly Halak at 20 wasn’t good enough to play in the AHL, while Price was winning 24 games. Two less than the mighty Halak won at 24. Third, Halak started 43 games last year and Price started 39. That is almost 50/50, Halak did not start most of the games. Fourth, last year the team got 37 points in Halaks starts, they got 56 points in Price’s, so no Halak didn’t get us into the playoffs that year, Price did. In closing, I’ll “shut up on Halak”, when you “shut up on Price.”

  10. pic1983 says:

    I think this griffin guy is going to get fired…or at least he should.

    whats this out of nowhere animosity towards dave andreychuk?

  11. volcano62 says:

    Well said. I dread the next season if Price signs…what a circus it will be in montreal.

     

     

    Go Habs Go!

  12. volcano62 says:

    I bet Madden is paid a little more than most 3rd line centers in the league. Any team would not mind his experience. 2 cups with NJ and one with CHI.

    Gomez, Gionta and Gill brings this excperience to the Habs also, hence their ECF finish. Niemi would be the icing on th cake!!

     

    Go Habs Go!

  13. nunacanadien says:

    One wins, the other regularly lets floaters in, loses games when the Habs are ahead, and most of all, jeers at his own fans for booing him after a bad game when Price knows he blew it for the team.

  14. nunacanadien says:

    Geeze, so when did Price win a stanley cup for Montreal then?  Listening to you guys makes it sound like Price won the cup for three years straight so we should all shut up for questioning why Halak had to start most of the season last year?  Granted Price was hurt the year before, but really, Price couldn’t win last year so Halak played, we got into the playoffs in a meaningful exciting way, and Price even took part in that too but had to be yanked time after time.  So when Carey Price wins a stanley cup shut up won’t you about Halak?

  15. volcano62 says:

    OMGDZ I MADE A TYPO….CALL THA COPZ

     

    Go Habs Go!

  16. volcano62 says:

    Who said Price was the starter? The dipshit is not even under contract for 2010-2011.

     

     

    Go Habs Go!

  17. Mattyleg says:

    I loved her in Star Wars.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  18. nunacanadien says:

    Agreed, Price has played more NHL games than Halak, so therefore ergo, he, Price has more wins.  However, Price’s win’s are spaced out over three years, whereas, Halak’s wins are for a short time period where Halak managed to win most times he was played, and oddly enough beat the Caps and the Penguins, the best and the cup champions both, after doing well in the Olympics earlier in the year, Halak has had a great 3 years, winning most times he was allowed to play.  This last year was the best as he was allowed to play and win.  The other years, he was propping up Price, who seems to be in a perpetual slump.  There is no way but to say Price is in a slump, always seemed to have been in a slump, and we are supposed to one day watch him magically like a phoenix rise from the ashes and shine.  I don’t know how many out there have bought that, I know this past year watching Halak and Price, and noting Halak got most games played and winning many for us and the playoffs, of course has everyone in Montreal wondering, why trade Halak?  Did Price magically overnight transform yet again?  Did we miss that?  Was that why Gauthier decided to trade Halak?  Unless Gainey is still in charge and following through with the insult that was given to him last year by Halak’s agent on twitter.  But honestly, why throw away a sure winner, and for what, a mere insult, one that everyone even hockey wives knew, Halak was winning, Price wasn’t so why play Price four up and four down a couple of years back?  This insult, even if it was the truth, is not an insult.  It is an insult to Bob Gainey for not recognizing talent when it was winning for him even.  This is who we have in charge, a man who doesn’t care to win, whether you call that man Gauthier, Gainey, or any Molson.

  19. K-hab25 says:

    So basically you’re saying going 9-9 in the playoffs, makes him worth 3.75 mill. Price is worth “990,000” for playing half the games every year on 3 playoff teams, at 20,21 and 22. Halak was in the echl at 20, Price at 20, was beating BOS with a game 7 SO. Halak at 21, was in his first year in the AHL, while Price at 21 was starting an all-star game. At 22 Halak was getting his first 16 starts in the NHL, Price at 22 was getting his 128th start. Don’t try and compare the two, because there is no comparison. Price has won championships, with MVP’s in juniors and the AHL, Halak hasn’t won s**t, at any level. Halak as a 22 year old isn’t even in Price’s league as a 22 year old, based on accomplishments. Price hasn’t played his 23 and 24 year old seasons yet, but I’m confident, much like ages 20-22, he’ll be better than Halak was at the same age. Check and Mate!!!

  20. kempie says:

    I have often wondered the same thing.

  21. cautiousoptimist says:

    I’d sign Tim Kennedy for about $1.25M on a two-way contract in a heartbeat, if he can be got for that — so long as we can send him down to Hamilton and get him off the books if he doesn’t perform.

    Raffi Torres is the kind of guy who seems to always command more salary than he deserves — he’s another guy I’d bag for Travis Moen money.

    We’ve got the cap room to sign one of these guys, even after signing Price, but with Darche signed to a one-way deal, Pyatt having earned his spot, and Boyd and Eller in the lineup, I don’t see a lot of room on the bottom two lines for these two guys.  Lapierre is dirt cheap and does his job most of the time, Moen knows what his job is and does it every night, and Pacioretty is going to be challenging for a spot.  I could only see Torres or Kennedy on the third line to push Pouliot to perform.

     

    1. http://www.flickeringpictures.com – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  22. RGM says:

    I’m not really in the mood for this today – I’ll simply end this pointless discussion by stating that if you’re going to talk down to somebody on the Internet as if they’re four years old, you might want to look out for little details like spelling “years” properly and keeping in mind that Alex Auld has been in the NHL for 4 years longer than Carey Price.

    —————————————– Josh Gorges for Captain!

  23. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    $990,000??

    Bud, no starter takes less than $ 2 M.

    What goalie would accept to a $ 990,000 contract to play 60 + games a year?

  24. Xtrahabsfan says:

    A little heavy on the airbrush crabby;)

  25. cautiousoptimist says:

    To be fair, if I were Burke, I’d have declined the offer of Ribeiro for Kaberle straight-up too.  Ribs has s $5M cap hit, is signed into 2013, and scored just 19 times last year, and potted 53 points.  Sure the Stars suck, and that probably didn’t help his numbers.  But the Leafs suck even worse — and even on that lousy team, Kaberle managed 49 points as a defenceman — just four less than Ribeiro — and makes less money to boot.  I’d take Kaberle over Ribeiro any day, even if my team was already stacked with defencemen.

    1. http://www.flickeringpictures.com – not a hockey site, but still kinda neat
    2. Mike Boone: “With Gainey at my side, I’d walk into any dark alley in the world.”
  26. K-hab25 says:

    You mean it’s not Carey Fisher? Oh well, I tried.

  27. Malreg says:

    Who are the “deadbeats” you are referring to?

    I wouldn’t mind Tim Kennedy, if he was 6 inches taller.  We already have enough small forwards.  And Raffi Torres being a clutch scorer?  Didn’t he not score a goal in the final 20 games of the season after Buffalo traded for him at the deadline last year?  If I recall correctly, they may have even sat him for the playoffs…

  28. volcano62 says:

    LOL you’re comments have no value. Halak single handedly defeated the #1 team in the east and the stanley cup champions. He is worth what St.Louis gave him.

     

    BTW I said Price has been our back up since last year not the past 2 years.

  29. Mattyleg says:

    ugh.. not one thread…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  30. volcano62 says:

    First of all i said $990,000 which is more than enough for his performances the last 2 years. Second of all Price is in no position at the moment to go to arbitration.

     

     

    Go Habs Go!

  31. K-hab25 says:

    Carey Price was our “back-up” for about 3 months, not 2 years genius. Auld has more wins than Halak too, oh and so does Price. If Halak fooled someone into giving him 3.75 based on 3 months, than Price is definitely worth 2.75, based on 3 years.

  32. Mark C says:

    Even though both players had the same SV%, the player with the Cup ring is worth over three times is much as the other? 

    John Madden has 3 Cups, based on your logic he should easily be the highest paid third-line center in the league, right?

     

  33. K-hab25 says:

    If Price would’ve went to an arbiter, he would be “worth” alot more than the 900,000 you want to pay him.

  34. krob1000 says:

    http://thestar.blogs.com/baseball/2010/08/griffin-the-spin-reminds-us-we-need-to-ask-questions.html

    This was in the Toronto Star today? weird article  where this Griffin guy who usually writes about  the Jays basically says Dave Andreychuk was on roids? I smell lawsuit….it is a pretty strange thing to go to press since he says he has never met him and bases it on the fact he had a 50 goal season at age 30 and then played until 43.  If I were Andreychuk me thinks my lawyer be giving the Star and Griffin a call.

    http://thestar.blogs.com/thespin/

    I guess it wasn’t out of left field after all…more like right field since Damien Cox is wondering about Jose Bautista in today’s paper as well….I think there is a bit of a spat happening at the Toronto Star…….

  35. punkster says:

    I’m having a tough time choosing between the lowly comment and the the Zito references. Oh what the hell, they’re both gems!

    FREE TIMO!

  36. TomNickle says:

    The Leafs are quite a funny bunch, and Burke is too.

    I have to be clear in saying that I have a lot of respect for him and the way he does business.  Hockey operations on the other hand are something else.

    The best way to sum up his reign to date is to say that he has failed dramatically in acquiring young talent, whether that be by trade, free agency or the draft.  And I’m not saying that because he’s traded two first round picks.

    Hell, Brendan Gallagher would be consider HIGH profile right now if the Leafs had drafted him.  

    They acquired Keith Aulie, who is very interesting to say the least, but with close to 10 NHL defensemen on the roster, how will he ever crack their lineup?

    Brad Ross, for some reason was their second round selection.  That pick is mind blowing considering the talent they left on the board.

    If anyone at MLSE has any brains they would’ve told Burke a long time ago that Pronger, Niedermeyer and Giguere won him a Cup in Anaheim and that it wasn’t the result of a group fit for the movie Fight Club.

  37. volcano62 says:

    One of them has a stanley cup ring,,,,,that is why. Any other easy questions for me?

     

     

    Go Habs Go!

  38. volcano62 says:

    Ok let me explain this to you like you are a 4 yeard old. Price has been our back up since last season. Also please remember that Auld has more wins in the NHL than Carey Price and he is 10000 times more mature.

    Until Carey can play like the savior he’s meant to be , the #1 role is open. Agree????

     

    Go Habs Go!

  39. crabvader says:

    Thanks 😉

  40. Mattyleg says:

    Ech, i don’t know, man. Tim Kennedy… don’t know him well enough, but my memories of him aren’t stellar.

    Raffi Torres had one good playoffs. Since then… ech. He’d be just more dead wood.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  41. HabFanSince72 says:

    I’m well predisposed to any article bashing Burke, but “ Ilya Bryzgalov, one of the keys to [the Ducks’] Cup win, ” ???

    And when was Glen Sather fired?

  42. volcano62 says:

    That’s what arbitration decided he is worth so I would give him what he is worth.

    Go Habs Go!

  43. mbplekfan says:

    Which deadbeats?

    Lapierre?

    any others?

  44. Mattyleg says:

    Great avatar!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  45. SeriousFan09 says:

    If Niemi had stunk it up a bit more against NSH, CHI wouldn’t have gotten far at all.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/

  46. gohabsgo25 says:

    if we can trade some deadbeats on our team. i would love for the habs to sign tim kennedy and raffi torres.

    two players who are checkers and can score in the clutch.

     

    what do u guys think?

  47. crabvader says:

    Bad link.

  48. G-Man says:

    Optimistic, eh Ian? Hope all you want. There’s no secondary scoring right now because Pouliot and AK are still in town. This team will be struggling for a playoff spot as usual. My prediction is between 9th and 12th with gusts up to 8th to make it close. A starting goalie is too important to pee away for more of this “future potential” crap that’s going on here. Goalies should develop in the minors, not with the NHL club.

  49. nightmare_49 says:

       The Reusch Blog translated by Dmitry Chernokov

      OVECHKIN SPEAKS OUT ABOUT THE PLAYOFF LOSS TO MONTREAL

       http://thereuschblog.com/?p=2268 

  50. RGM says:

    A lot of people felt that way in the summer of 2005 when the Habs drafted some kid playing for Tri-City. Pierre is arguably just the most infamous.

    —————————————– Josh Gorges for Captain!

  51. crabvader says:

    Nice, I’m in.

  52. JD_ says:

    * Rumour has Kovalchuk a Devil by tomorrow. Should come as no surprise given this was goin’ to be the case from the get-go. Still callin’ for the last two years of the contract to be lopped off and the terminal annual salary to be raised to $1M. Cap hit should go up by some $1M per annum. Between there and here, Gary “Maxwell” Bettman managed to fashion himself a shiny new silver hammer. Hope he sent Lou a gift basket.

    * Reports have the NHL changin’ the tiebreaker system for determining regular-season standings. If two teams are tied in points, the league will back out points earned via shootout victories as the first tiebreaker. Don’t know about you, but I’m gettin’ the feelin’ the shootout, although probably in place for 2010-11, is slowly workin’ its way to the toast heap.

    * Leadin’ the bigger fight to do away with all things shootout, beginnin’ with this latest effort to dilute its impact, is Columbus GM, Scott Howson. Has nothin’, nothin’ I tells ya, to do with the fact his lowly BJs are the 4th worst shootout team since the concept was introduced some five years ago.

    * First time I can recall usin’ the term lowly in the same sentence as BJ.

    * Ostensible Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, on the unveiling of his military’s new high-speed bomber drone, “This jet, before it heralds death for enemies, is a messenger of salvation and dignity for humanity.” Well, certainly looks like Antti Niemi’s agent, and delusional freebaser, Bill Zito, has found work as a speechwriter.

    * Carey Price hasn’t signed. In other news, Red Fisher story’s a good read. Man, that guy’s been at it a long, long time. Must be some tough sloggin’. Talkin’ about his 62 years of marriage, of course. If ever there’s a biopic made, I’m backin’ late Hollywood uber-agent Irving “Swifty” Lazar for the title role.

    * From the press release announcin’ Canadian Tire’s new five-year partnership agreement with the NHL, “The NHL is a driving force in uniting Canadians around their love of hockey, and in partnering with the iconic Canadian Tire brand, we have the potential to unite them in more ways and in more places.” Such unabashed contempt for the human race. I’m guessin’ Bill Zito unwittingly, of course, had a hand in writin’ it.

    * From this b/r piece on Brian Burke, “Brian Burke. The man is past his prime. He declined a trade that would bring some offense and life into his lineup. The man is washed up. He traded away a team’s future for one player. Brian Burke should just retire before he gets traded for a promising young GM.” Ouch. Feel like I’ve been OutBurkeBashed™. Truth be told, I’d miss the ol’ punchin’ bag if he left, you know, in particular if the Loafs org were to bring in a guy who actually cares more about the team than his next appointment with the coiffeur.

  53. G-Man says:

    In 2008, after Hasek went 2-2 against Nashville (1st round), Osgood stepped up with a .920 sve pctg and a 14-4 record.

    If Huet was the starting netminder, would Chicago have won the Cup?  Answer: No!

  54. Storm Man says:

    Daft day is September 12 at 9pm EST. League name is HIO 2010 Habs Fans Only. On the ESPN site, 20 teams with a live draft format hurry up and join. Scoring is H2H points format.

  55. SeriousFan09 says:

    Pierre Mcguire and his genius prediction that Theodore, Huet and Yann Danis had our future in nets well in hand was incorrect? Shocked.

    Huet’s issue is strong for a stretch but you have no idea when that begins or when it ends. Never good enough, long enough to win a championship for a team.

     

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu.
    http://habsandhockey.blogspot.com/


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