Forecast for September: Hitting

AlexeiEmelin

As today’s featured video illustrates, Alexei Emelin promises to be a physical presence on the Canadiens’ blueline – a role the Russian will begin staking out at training camp.

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  3. SmartDog says:

    Scrolling this page I see a poorly chosen clip at the top with no journalistic merit, and a lot of stupid arguments below.
    HIO guys, if you want to see those numbers rise, skip the sensationalist twaddle. This Yemelin clip is a real piece of shite. It was the first clip about the guy I saw, until a poster here put up a good clip that showed how smart this guys is, how strong his passing and timing are.

    In simple terms: more stupid clips, more arguments, fewer visitors. Besides this, there’s nothing here worth commenting on.
    See ya.

  4. SeriousFan09 says:

    Say one thing about my job and my hours, does help me avoid the debates that make you feel like brain cells are committing Seppuku rather than have to read or argue anything like what nuna is bringing up.

  5. gK_HabsFan says:

    The most sensible thing i’ve heard on CBC about Subban
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYHJpxRUIbk&feature=related

    -GK-

    • SyntaxLove says:

      Brilliant.

      Chinchillin’

    • Rob D says:

      Beauty.

      A friend of mine who is an Oilers fan (god love him) says that he thinks Messier got the same early rap in his career because he didn’t show any “respect” for his elders. Some of you may well remember Mess faking a spear to the neck of Larry Robinson which I think occurred during the 3 game sweep of an early round best of 5 series between the Habs/Gretzky era Oilers.

      Subban is already a star on this team but he’s also got a lot to learn. But I don’t think he’s the type to genuflect in front of the stars..you stand in front of the net and you will pay a….Price….hee heee

  6. HardHabits says:

    ebb and flow

  7. PrimeTime says:

    Syntax – a guy named Brian Lillie used to own the Redwood along with his younger brother. Sold it about 20 years ago. Are they still around?

    • SyntaxLove says:

      Couldn’t tell you, PrimeTime. My parental units just purchased it this year and I’m not privy to the ownership history. It has quite a heritage though, obviously.

      Chinchillin’

  8. Marc10 says:

    Emelin hasn’t played a shift yet. Let’s see what PG saw in him. I know the Habs have been trying to bring him across for a while now. The dirty hits aren’t going to work for long on this side of the pond.

    I like his size and reports from the Worlds was that he can skate with ‘em. I hope for his sake he gets paired with a guy like Markov early on to benefit from the ‘Komisarek effect’ and get into a roll.

    But yeah, if he absolutely needs to get away with a cheap shot, then by all means anyone on the Bruins will do…

    “To be irreplaceable, you have to be different”.
    Andy Warhol

    Go PK Go!

  9. PrimeTime says:

    Goon hockey doesn’t win Stanley Cups. Even in the 70’s talent eventually reigned over the Broad Street Bullies which had more talent than most give credit. I’m not against physical players but they must have skill to survive and be a contributor in the playoffs. Could the Habs use more size up front – no doubt. But retribution doesn’t scare anyone anymore. No NHL team is intimidated by the opposition. Boston won last year with outstanding goaltending and played against an underperforming team in the Nuks.

  10. SyntaxLove says:

    Rawr! Reply limits are cruel. HIO’s had me giggling (almost) hysterically for the last hour at least & I wanted to thank all the participants, especially BigDawg for his last comment. Hockey is fun.

    Chinchillin’

  11. HardHabits says:

    nunacular logic

  12. Chrisadiens says:

    It’s getting harder and harder to not feed the trolls.

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

  13. nunacanadien says:

    The video shows Emelin (Yemelin) hitting a midget from behind. If there is any real physical player on the Habs worth mentioning, its is Subban. Of course we all know how JM turned Subban into a lame player that cost us the series against Boston last year. I wonder how long before JM turns Yemelin into a yogurt eating pacifist like some other tough guy that we had before…..we are not using our best players to the fullest in order to support a five on five concept that has never worked in any hockey team anywhere in the world, well except for world juniors where they don’t allow the nhl style of play!

    • habaddict_andy says:

      You gotta be an Ottawa fan with your consistent comments like that. Or are you just trying to get replies.

      Go! Hockey! Go!

      • nunacanadien says:

        I’m a real habs fan who wants the habs to win. Watching them get the crap checked out of them by Boston last year and the year before sucks. You must be one of those Ottawa fans yourself or a laff fan in disguise. In order to win a cup in this new NHL with crashing the goalie and removing the two line offside has changed the nature of hockey. The hit on MaxPac all but showed the changed nature of hockey.

        • SyntaxLove says:

          They won the season series and lost by one goal in a game 7 overtime. And they were constantly dealing with injuries. This notion that they were DESTROYED by Boston because they weren’t tough enough is such an over reaction. It’s ridiculous. “Gotta get tough, gotta get goons to beat Boston. rahrahrah.” Could they be more physical? Of course. Was the Chara hit caused by their lack of physicality? No. That’s idiocy.

          Chinchillin’

          • Bob_Sacamano says:

            + we lost only once in regulation against them in seven playoff games. ONCE! Just for anyone who still thinks they are better…

            BTW: Nunacanadien is a wum who should be ignored.

    • Subban cost us the series against Boston? That’s a new one. Can we award this the dumbest comment on HIO ever award?

      • nunacanadien says:

        No, what I said Andrew was that you could see after Subban got a series of penalties that JM all but forced Subban not to hit back, not to check, and you could see Subban play very careful hockey, which meant he was like any hab out there. Not able to shoot comfortably, not able to check fully, not able to check back in return like his hit on Marchaund, you know the one where the announcer said it was like a bee sting. I bet if Mohammed Ali had a phrase for the habs under JM it would be float like a balloon and don’t sting like a bee, for fear of getting a penalty…anyway, you could see Subban’s play and qualityof play go down after the press conference where JM talked about trying to get Subban to calm down and not take “stupid” penalties or something like that. Subban not being allowed to play like Subban, is sad, especially when it affected the Boston series. Sorry you got the wrong impression Andrew, if anything I applaud Subban’s physical play, in fact Don Cherry also picked up JM’s effective muzzling of Subban.

    • Mattyleg says:

      What absolute twaddle.
      Nothing in this post makes a lick of sense.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

      • I’m seriously impressed by how bereft of intelligence his posts are tonight. Even Tony242 would be shocked by it.

        • nunacanadien says:

          I’m disappointed that the mediocre stats goons are out in huge numbers like some moth around a flame. Here we want the habs to win, not to post a mediocre season that is easy to plot statistically. The only stat I’m worried about is the final stat: a stanley cup! But no, we have the Bob Gainey fans out in huge numbers….happy when the habs underperform cause its “nice hockey” to watch…..heck, as if watching the battle of Ontario is pathetic enough, we want the habs to sink down to the Laff’s level of mediocrity? We become experts in mediocre players????

    • badbalance says:

      Anything positive to say troll?

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  14. habaddict_andy says:

    As per NHL.com hit of the year.

    http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hdpid=49&id=87863&navid=mod-left1

    It never get’s old.

    Go! Hockey! Go!

  15. HabinBurlington says:

    Given all I am reading about Russians fighting let me save others the time and post Arthyukhin!

    • nunacanadien says:

      Tell me this, since when have we really seen Russians fight in the NHL even Artyukin? Hardly ever. Since when have we seen Russians help win a stanley cup? The KHL has corrupted the Russians, Gainey and company are living in the past.

      What is needed is for JM to let Yemelin be Yemelin, for Pk Subban to be the Subban that we knew in Hamilton, a physical fighting player. No, we see JM try a hockey system that doesn’t work.

      So we have players like Cammy who are used to having the physical Kopitar help to fight to get a good shot, forechecking physically. Only Gauthier and Gainey want to have the United Nations Peace Keeping of Hockey in Montreal. The hit on MaxPac showed this style doesn’t work.

      We have stringbean tall players playing alongside washed up midgets from Alaska, stars like Cammy who can’t get a decent shot cause the five on five hockey format requires the ability to hold the ground in the offensive end.

      What we see instead is our team of average size players small by NHL standards against giants like Charra and others, get shoved aside cause, hey its the repeat of Crazy Bob Gainey’s United Nations of Peace Keeping Hockey!

      The GM has changed, but hey it’s still Crazy Bob Gainey pulling the strings….heck I’m waiting to see how long before Crazy Bob brings back the mighty shrimp and the former Secretary General of United Nations of Peace Keeping Hockey here in Montreal to come back, although Koivu would work well with Subban though on the PK and PP.

      • You’re a f***ing idiot. Malkin won a Conn Smythe 3 years ago. When has Nunacanadien ever made an intelligible comment?

        • Mattyleg says:

          Not ever, I don’t think.

          …at least he’s using punctuation now…

          —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • SyntaxLove says:

            Ah, progress. I love the “Crazy old Bob Gainey” part!

            Chinchillin’

          • nunacanadien says:

            Malkin was not a factor last year, in fact Malkin only did well when there was a host of Canadian born players that year feeding him the puck and protecting his butt. Let’s get the real facts here first and foremost. What was sad was the fact that the pathetic HNIC picked up the fact that Malkin was no longer a factor cause he could not get the support of his team as the key physical players were either traded away or signed with another team as which usually happens when a team wins the cup, the year after you notice that the star that shone only did so because of his support.

        • nunacanadien says:

          Andrew I asked since when has a Russian helped with a stanley cup.

        • LA Loyalist says:

          Why can’t you just disagree and post a counter-argument? Or is that too much effort?

          That’s what this site is for, isn’t it? If you just want to type b*d w*rds and insult people, who is going to give your comments any weight? What are you – 12?

  16. HabinBurlington says:

    Hey Syntax, posting from bberry can’t reply to you directly. Had a burger at the Cedar Rail, didn’t want to sit inside, otherwise no better place to stop than the Redwood! My wife is from SouthHampton, spending our anniversary in her old town. She wants to take you up on the Redwood offer! LoL!
    Cheers my friend, say hi to the big red dog in Clifford!

  17. Habitant in Surrey says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7FaU2I1IdA&feature=related
    …link is to an Emelin vs Svitov fight in KHL …resulting in Emelin being carried off the ice on a potato-sack
    …maybe We should have signed Svitov ?

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

    • HabFab says:

      And that is why they say he can’t fight although Svitov is a big boy!

      • Habitant in Surrey says:

        …after looking at compilations of Emelin’s play in the KHL,I just come-away with impression He does not fit the mold of a Montreal Canadien, although I could be completely wrong come October
        …We do need a physical-stud whom can fight and push-back on D when appropriate, but Emelin seems prone instinctively to over-react …just feel Emelin is more befitting in a Phlyers cape rather than a CH sweater
        …whereas, I like what I see of Diaz …dynamic skating and offensive potential
        …should be some great offensive support from Our D this coming season with Markov, PK, Weber, and Diaz …and, it seems if He can stay-out of the sin-bin enough, Emelin can chip-in a little offensively as well

        Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
        http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

        • nunacanadien says:

          Look at how JM destroyed Pk Subban. Heck we might as well ask Laraques to come out of retirement and add to the stable of tough players who aren’t allowed to fight cause we have some pansy like JM or Bob Gainey wanting “gentlman’s hockey”…..note to Molsons….gentleman’s hockey doesn’t work in the NHL, never has, last time we had a gentleman hockey player was the great Beliveau but hey Gainey, Beliveau could also fight too! Maybe it is time we get rid of Gainey and JM once and for all, and sign some real pro hockey execs who know how to win….the right way!

  18. SeriousFan09 says:

    I’m watching the final scrimmage of Canada’s World Junior camp, I don’t think it even registers for Gallagher that he’s the smallest guy on the ice. He is just fearless going after that puck each shift he plays.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
    SF09 on Twitter

    • ABHabsfan says:

      It’s a real possibility that the Habs will have 3 prospects make this team. Have we ever had 3 guys on the team at the same time? From all I’ve heard about Gallagher he may be the 2nd coming of Fleury, hopefully without the bad stuff.

  19. HabinBurlington says:

    Yemelin will be fine, PG and JM will have already explained those hits will get him back to Russia or Hamilton before he gets to the penalty box. He has far more to offer than the sample size provided today.

    Hopefully if indeed Enqvist makes the team he will be doing lots of PK, he was very strong on PK in Hamilton.

    Watching the sunset in Port Elgin tonight, as good as it gets in Canada looking over Lake Huron!

    • HabFab says:

      +1

      watching the sunset…priceless!

    • SyntaxLove says:

      It’s so bizarre when people I’ve never met from the internet start referencing towns close to mine, like Port Elgin. You should stop by the Redwood restaurant in Clifford (if you know where that is.) A free meal for a fellow habs fan would lie in waiting/

      Chinchillin’

    • nunacanadien says:

      That’s the problem with Montreal they have hockey execs who don’t give a damn about pro hockey and more about making sure the rock bands have priority cause ticket sales are more important than winning a stanley cup!

  20. PrimeTime says:

    A few weeks ago Boone posted the demographic breakdown of the “Commentariat”. I called it Hogwash the and today’s comments just proves how right I am. How figgin embarrasing to read such spit from half of you. Perhaps the demographics had an off day!

  21. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …Emelin = Murray Baron redux ?
    …hope We find a PK specialist other than Pleckanec, because once again He will be only burning His energy on PKing Emelin’s brain-farts rather than maximizing His badly needed offensive talent

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
    http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=423049

  22. Neutral says:

    emelin is coming to the NHL not KHL a few hits like that and he’ll have knees like markov.

  23. Caper says:

    Nice to have someone nasty on our team for a change.

    • ProHabs says:

      Agreed. He can lay out as many of these hits against the Bruins that he wants, I don’t care if we play short handed all game. Hopefully JM doesn’t turn him into a pussee.

    • ed lopaz says:

      hitting from behind, blindsiding, is not nasty, and its not hockey.

      its an act of a coward – in every sport.

      Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

    • punkster says:

      Ya, those were the two that moved me to comment earlier. I mean if we were to base our judgment on these cherry picked “highlights” we’d really have to ask ourselves just what the heck the Habs see in this guy. Video clips are like sound bites. Meaningless and repetitive. Kind of like some HI/O posters. Ouc! Did I say that?

      ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • slamtherimtim says:

      I think this kid will be a good one , really liked the passing ability ,
      one thing i find different is the amount of time the players have the puck on the bigger ice , plays look better where i find unless there is a powerplay its mostly a rushing game from end to end, so i would like to see what he looks like at the center

  24. punkster says:

    All these videos of Emelin/Yemelin and dirty hits. Does anyone have videos providing the ultimate proof that the kid has any talent? Cherry picked video highlights of dirty hits, fights, seeing eye passes and blistering point shots are no indicator of anything other than editing skills.

    Until we see him play in the bigs and see how he handles Hab coaching instruction and team mate mentoring I’ll hold off on any judgment of the kid.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

    • Timo says:

      For once I agree with Punkster. Anyone can hit from behind. And while I don’t mind an occasional dirty hit, especially if it’s against the Bruins, the question is whether Emelin has a pair to back up his hitting from behind. If he can drop ‘em with a dirt bag like Lucic or Horton after driving Marchand’s head into the boards than he’s cool. But he can’t be too cool, because JM doesn’t like when his players are really physical.

    • HabFab says:

      Any player drafted or signed is at best a prospect or even a suspect until they prove they can play in the big show. Wither he has the right stuff or not, who knows? Hope he does make it, but I’m thinking an Odelein if he does, not a top 4 D.

    • Chorske says:

      Seriously. I mean for petes sakes, didn’t Boone link to a Pouliot highlight reel at some point? And it was, like, a couple minutes long. Made him look like the second coming of… of…

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      “Cherry picked …” –

      Did you mean that double entendre?

  25. GenerationYHabs says:

    I really don’t know what to take from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEaydH1ILlw&feature=related

  26. kempie says:

    I have a Serious question during this sloooooooow time:
    Can we get an indication of which prospects are expected to graduate to the Bulldogs this season? I really don’t know who’s expected to stay in junior and who will make the leap to the AHL and I’m very curious. Bet I’m not the only one.

  27. While I am not a fan of “dirty hits” especially when there is a real intent to injure, I have to say, that I am happy that opposing forwards will be thinking about Emelin everytime he is on the ice. Between him and Subban we just might begin to see a little respect from the opposing offence. These two guys can definitely punish when they want to. Remember when PK almost vaporized Carcillo?

    “When I was a baby I wish my first word had been “QUOTE”, then right before I die I could say “UNQUOTE” – Stephen Wright

    • Chorske says:

      And remember how Subban vaporizing Carcillo made absolutely NO difference in terms of how hard it was to play Philly? Sorry, I don’t buy into the doctrine of the big hit. For me it fits more into what Boone calls “Garbage Time”. It’s not hockey. Maybe back when Robinson was hip checking guys, it meant something. But now? This cheap hit shite is overrated. The take home message from this clip is: a key dman takes a needless major offensive zone penalty and gets booted from the game, leaving his team short. It is a stupid play, and I hope he plays smarter when he’s in MTL.

      • nunacanadien says:

        Versus watching the Habs like we have become used to, getting dirty hits against them, and the refs calling the habs on the revenge hits in return. Naw, I say, it’s the NHL, listen to the one piece of good advice from Don Cherry, it’s physical hockey and a nice team like Montreal always finishes well, early in the playoffs….I am sure the Rocket who exemplified true grit, and the real stuff, still could fight back in return. Now we just watch as some tough guy like Laraques is not allowed to fight. Or even worse, when a shining star like PK Subban is muzzled like JM did in the Boston series you could see that mentality. The mentality of not getting a penalty for fear of losing the game. Only to see players like the ones we should have let go, get the stupid retaliation penalties. It is human nature to fight back. Only JM is a robot..a cold hearted robot who doesn’t care if we win the cup for fear of getting penalties…..

  28. habby27 says:

    Why would someone put this dirty hit up here haha

  29. HabFab says:

    For the old timers, go to August 4th and there are 5 video clips on the Rocket.

    http://video.canadiens.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=66

  30. habs001 says:

    last year the habs d scored around 32 goals ….how many more goals is a realistic expectation?… will the final total be not much different?….can our d survive the physical punishment that will be given out by many teasm and can they dish it out? especially in the playoffs?

  31. SeriousFan09 says:

    Oh yes and while I’m at it, Brendan Gallagher’s highlight reel from the 2010-11 season in the WHL.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tugJQy6vT_M

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
    SF09 on Twitter

  32. Bripro says:

    OK…just back from a fabulous vacation in Cape Cod, with wife and grandson, a blown trailer tire and blown truck exhaust. Yeah!
    Now, I’m power reading through the sites and there’s really no news….truly summer hockey “non” season.
    Aside from the “wow” factor of Shea Weber’s arbitration settlement, there’s really nothing else, is there.
    Or, if so, what did I miss?

  33. SeriousFan09 says:

    NHL.com features Brendan Gallagher as well

    http://bit.ly/nchJ4h

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.
    SF09 on Twitter

  34. Neutral says:

    Gonchar can still put up decent points, but too much money, if we could trade spacek, Gonchar is the better of the two, would be worth looking at.

    • thorandresson says:

      Really Gonchar? Really? I guess you don’t remember the playoffs 2 years ago when we beat the Pens

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQBvLY30mXY

      you want that guy on the team?

      • kempie says:

        I love that goal. Couldn’t handle Moen. Travis Moen! Who says he’s not a top sixer? And from the way he waved at him going by, I’m convinced that even I could have blown by Gonchar on that play. Remember, this wasn’t a meaningless game, this was the 2nd round of the playoffs! Nice D dude. “Whoa baby! What is going on in Pennsylvania?”

  35. mike3131 says:

    Steve Hindle didn’t put emphasis on Cammalleri’s PLAYOFF stats with the Habs…

    2010: 19 GP, 13 G, 6 A – 1 PPG
    2011: 7 GP, 3 G, 7 A – 1.43 PPG

    … and with the Flames in ’09:
    6 GP, 1 G. 2 A – 0.50 PPG

    So when Cammy had his 82-point season with the Flames, he wasn’t as much of a factor in the playoffs. However, with us, he had two mediocre regular seasons but two explosive playoff outings. I don’t know about you, but I don’t care if Cammy under-performs in the regular season. As long as he is healthy and a PPG player in the playoffs, I’m happy!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      While I am generally in agreement with that (Playoffs are the ultimate importance) better production in reg. season may get us a better seeding for the playoffs.

  36. SyntaxLove says:

    So we can count on Yemelin to take stupid penalties! Yay! At least he injured the player. That’s always a plus, right? ;)

    Chinchillin’

  37. el heffe says:

    This is th video clip of Emelin’s “phyisical side” the morons that run this site decided to show. What a joke. Truly sums up all that is wrong with the hockey media mindset. Embarrassing!

    nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

    • ed lopaz says:

      that “hit” is a perfect example of what is wrong in hockey today.

      the czech player is drifting, backwards, behind the Russian net looking for a pass.

      yemelin goes to hit the player and CONTINUES the hit to the blind side.

      the czech was not protecting himself against this type of blindside hit. and its his visor collapsing on his nose and face against the glass that causes the bleeding.

      this kind of hit / penalty, got Pouliot benched by Martin against the Bruins.

      this is the kind of STUPID HIT, STUPID PENALTY, that Martin will never allow on his team.

      and after a “hit” like that, yemelin better be ready to fight anyone on the ice – because any normal player will come flying in and challenging him.

      I have mentioned this before about the video I saw of yemelin hits.

      He and Martin are going to have to figure out how to co-exist.

      The Habs do NOT support this kind of hit to the blindside, and neither do I.

      Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

      • HabFab says:

        Does this one make you guys feel better?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHwM0EhUzaY&feature=related

        Unfortunately, you will also see the other side from him. He is not only physical but can get downright dirty at times. It will be interesting with JM!

      • Bill J says:

        “The Habs do NOT support this kind of hit to the blindside”

        That pretty much sums up how out of touch you are with the Habs. If they truly didn’t support this kind of hit, why Mr. Genius did they draft him ? Why have they been trying to bring him over from mother Russia since they drafted him ? The biggest value Yemelin brings is his physicality!!! I will agree that JM has shown that he doesn’t like stupid penalties, but maybe just maybe Pouliot just sucked AND took stupid penalties. That may prove to be the key difference between Yemelin and Pouliot.


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        • ed lopaz says:

          Bill J posts,

          “If they truly didn’t support this kind of hit, why Mr. Genius did they draft him ?”

          yes Bill. you certainly know your hockey.

          you see, Bill, the Habs were over in russia scouting Yemelin, when to their great satisfaction yemelin NAILED a guy from behind!!!

          the scouts were sure at that point that they had their man!!!

          maybe they drafted Yemelin, because he can hit legally??

          because this hit – the one I posted about – is bullshit, cowardly, and stupid.

          Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

        • NCRhabsfan says:

          Really? One video and you’re having a nervous breakdown about Yemelin? Five years in the KHL, one hit, not much worse than a few Max Lapierre threw when he was still in favour in Montreal, and we’re already predicting a huge rift between JM and Yemelin?

          Stuff happens fast in hockey. He would probably admit that the hit wasn’t right. But then again, the Bruins employed this exact approach and…well, they won the SC and we didn’t. I wouldn’t condone hits like this, but having a guy that makes other teams keep looking around can’t be all bad.

          This site seems to want both physical players and physical players that don’t play physically. That seems odd to me.

    • SmartDog says:

      I have to agree.

      HIO guys, what we’d rather is a little real journalism not sensationalist crap. It’s negative in a whole variety of ways, and laziness on your part.

      Or maybe you’re just showing how stuck in the past you are. BTW, how close are you to Don Cherry’s age?

      • D Mex says:

        A link to this same video was posted here yesterday (AUG 6th) by HabFan on the ‘ Trouble on the Horizon? ‘ thread.

        ALWAYS Habs –
        D Mex

        • HabFab says:

          It’s summer time slow. Most of the posted links up top came from HIO posters.

          Edit: my posting the link yesterday was in response to someone saying that they couldn’t find any evidence of Yemelin being dirty while looking at the videos.

    • Bill J says:

      Some fans just can’t be pleased, take el heffe here for example… He would rather the Habs do not have a guy with a mean streak. Someone who will make opposing dirty players think twice…

      It’s 2011, the game has changed. And until the league makes it clear that the dirty plays are unacceptable, it will keep happening.

      Do I like dirty hits ? No! But do I like remembering MaxPac on the ice ? NO!!! So the tradeoff is the Habs have to fight fire with fire.

      Dirty hits and all.


      If you want a days count till Habs hockey, I recommend this as your home page: http://bit.ly/mTnegr

      Go Habs Go!

      • SyntaxLove says:

        In my mind there is nothing that could have prevented Chara ramming MaxPac into the stanchion. There’s no deterrent to Chara. That boarding hit from Yemelin would be a penalty every day in the NHL and deters nothing. If he pulled that with the Bruins someone would immediately fight him and the Bruins would continue on their merry way.

        Chinchillin’

        • Bill J says:

          We will find out come October … ;)

          btw, Brad Marchand still remembers getting clobbered by PK… That kind of disproves your point.


          If you want a days count till Habs hockey, I recommend this as your home page: http://bit.ly/mTnegr

          Go Habs Go!

          • SyntaxLove says:

            As long as he’s not taking ridiculous penalties in the process, I’m all for “physicality.” Obviously having a highly skilled and talented core with 4-6 tough, physical players is a winning formula. Boston’s proven that. But you have to be smart about it, and Yemelin’s hit was really dumb.

            Chinchillin’

          • Bill J says:

            Well, many young players make dumb decisions. It is not an indictment on how their respective careers will play out.

            The physicality will sometimes cause penalties, it happens.

            btw, note how you cited the Bruins who won the cup while breaking 2 players backs along the way. Where those two incidents “smart” ?


            If you want a days count till Habs hockey, I recommend this as your home page: http://bit.ly/mTnegr

            Go Habs Go!

      • el heffe says:

        Really Bill? you know me do ya? I take issue with the choice of video not the hit. Don’t assume you know what i want in hockey stranger. Keep your personal opinions about me to yourself and stick to hockey joe blow. I like Emelin as a player alot. So much in fact i found HIO’s choice of video to be insulting to the guys abilities as a puck mover and offensve force. not to mention his
        ability to also, ocasionally, make a CLEAN HIT (are we clear yet Bill). The problem is the media sensationalizes dirty hits making them the focal point of these debates and we the good little mice that we are eat it up and run thier pathetic little mazes. ring the bell Bill, keep on ringing that tiny bell.

        nobody knows the pain of being a Habs fan in a world of Habs fans…

    • kempie says:

      Wow. That is pretty sad and fairly shocking. I find it unbelievable that so many people who have, among other things, tens of millions of dollars simply cannot play it cool and just chill safe and easy with it. But I’ve never had that kind of money so who knows? Somedays I think it’s maybe a good thing that I don’t. Sad scene for Lenny though.

    • The Dude says:

      If Lenny was an N.H.L.er he’d be a Bruin,lol

  38. HabinBurlington says:

    So I love Summer and hate the winters weatherwise. But man do I miss hockey and the NFL. September/October can’t come soon enough as it pertains to sports!

  39. punkster says:

    Stu Hackel’s article on radio announcers brought back a world of memories and not just of hockey. I caught Frank Foster and George Coleman with the Elvin Jones quartet in the early 70s (check the album “The Coalition”). Thanks for the memory jarring moments Stu.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  40. 24 Cups says:

    I’ll be elated if Brendan Gallagher turns into another Marchand. Marchand may be too dirty a player for most of us, but there’s no denying how much of an impact he made during the playoffs. Every team has room for a runt such as Marchand (or Gallagher).

    Right now we have more than enough small forwards. Gionta’s “C” says it all as far as he’s concerned. Cammy is strictly a goal scorer while DD is still a work in progress. His role will probably be that of a firefly. Gomez’s game has eroded to the point where he is strictly a speed merchant who is good at getting the puck out of his own end. He had a conversation with Chara last year but is far from being a gritty player who goes to the dirty areas of the ice. When it’s all said and done, Gionta is the only small player who does that.

    Gallagher won’t be able to break into the NHL for a few years so who knows if Gomez or DD will still be here. Maybe there will be another open spot on the roster for the right kind of small player.

    • habitual says:

      Pearn is quoted as saying Gallagher’s foot speed has to get a “touch” better. You can be small and fast in the NHL and play, but not small and slow.

      • HabFab says:

        DD seems to be succeeding so far and here is hoping he continues. And that was the knock against him. At this point it comes down to “will” as Gallagher states in the article.

    • Shane1313 says:

      I”l be disgusted if Gallagher turns out to be Marchand, or any of our prospects for the matter. We have more class than that.

      • I don’t think you’re getting what Steve is saying. He’s saying he’ll be thrilled if Gallagher can be a pint sized agitator who can score 20+ goals a season. He’s not saying he wants Gallagher to BE Marchand, just be as effective. I agree with him wholeheartedly. The difference between Gallagher and Marchand is that when Gallagher chirps, he backs it up. Look at his PIM numbers.

  41. HabFab says:

    My first reaction was WTF! I then checked out the bio of the writer, you guessed it! He’s from Boosston!

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/779894-nhl-trade-scenarios-one-trade-that-each-nhl-team-really-needs-to-make/page/9

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I clicked on that link and saw Gonchar, misread it and then realized they are suggesting we pick up Gonchar. Does this writer not realize we have Andrei Markov resigned! It really is amazing the kind of suggestions these media have for the habs!

      • HabFab says:

        He’s from Boosston!

        • joeybarrie says:

          I dont think Gonchar would be a bad addition. In fact he would be a good addition. What I think is crazy is someone out there thinks that this is one of the best moves for the Habs. There are probably 25-30 better moves for us, ones we can realistically make of course.
          Finding a way to trade Spacek for Gonchar…

          There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

          • joeybarrie says:

            IGNORING GONCHAR’s SALARY CAP OF COURSE.

            There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

          • HabFab says:

            IGNORING GONCHAR’s SALARY CAP OF COURSE.
            “sigh”

          • 24 Cups says:

            JB – Gonchar has two years remaining on a 5.5M, +35, NMC contract. Not to mention that he’s close to being washed up. I’d rather trade for America’s debt load.

          • joeybarrie says:

            For an extra million and change in cap space, and we have Gonchar instead of Spacek… I can’t imagine this being a bad thing. Besides we already have America’s debt load going to Gomez….
            30 points on a crap Sens team. He can prob hit 35-40 with us. Not a solution or an answer to our Cup woes, but not a bad thing by any stretch.
            There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

          • 24 Cups says:

            JB – The only problem with the Spacek for Gonchar theory is that we would still have Gonchar on the books for another year, a year in which we need to re-sign Subban, Price, AK and Gorges.

            I say we suck it up and live with Spacek for one more season. We have lots of flexibility and cap space this season to cover the final year of his contract without hurting the overall performance of the team. The worst case scenario is that he’s our 7th Dman.

          • Mike D says:

            You’re right on the money, Steve. Agree 100%.

            In addition to the 4 players you mentioned, we also have Eller and Yemelin who will be up for contract renewal as well.

            – Honestly yours

  42. HabFab says:

    Due to popular demand (well some demand) the Habs now have a designated GOON. I hope all the HIO posters that have been calling for this are satisfied. Checked out his fight card last season and it looks like he wins about 50% of his fights. We can console ourselves that those are better numbers then TK alias “the Bomb” ever had.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/789056-the-biggest-goon-on-each-nhl-teams-roster

  43. Chrisadiens says:

    How can anyone turn down “very good web”?!

    Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

  44. SyntaxLove says:

    LET’S GO. STARSTARSTAR!

    Chinchillin’


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