And your Montreal Canadiens didn’t even have to play a game to reach that lofty position.
Washington’s loss to Phoenix dropped the struggling Caps to sixth.
AUDIO from Monday’s practice: Jacques Martin | Scott Gomez | Brian Gionta | Mike Cammalleri | Max Pacioretty | Mathieu Darche | P.K. Subban
• Cammalleri may be back in Calgary
• Toronto Sports Network on P.K.
• Reactions to Mario Lemieux’s statement

Now that Colorado’s goose is cooked, can we trade for Ryan O’Byrne back? Just undo the previous trade.
We could use a young physical presence on our bleu line!
“I need player who hate to lose” D. Irvin
I noticed you mentioned a while back that the West was in a tight race but this is ridiculous. 3rd place (69 pts.) to 10th (65 pts.) has 8 teams separated by 4 points
congrats and you need to give them a little baby haby habs outfit. . . .
i got my son a habs pacifier, bib, sippie cup, etc. . . . . but he’s a sabres fan . . . so you gotta try harder than i.
I understand, but I don’t think you can look at it that way.
As it turned out our young kids are getting a baptism by fire and coming up Aces. This is good for the development of the team.
Considering that many on here were claiming that the Habs were done after the Boston game and claiming that they were a defeated bunch…it is kinda odd to hear that many are happy and impressed that the team is upbeat and confident.
In the end, it really was just ONE game…amazing what a shutout win over the Leafs can do to morale.
“I am guilty of using elipses…”
Unless you are Komisarek
I think the players quite enjoy being booed in opposing arenas. That one is a positive I would say. They wouldn’t be booing you if you sucked.
Great audio today folks. Give it a listen. A really upbeat bunch of guys right now – they sound solid.
Especially good interview – MaxPac. Man, I love this kid. The Gomez interview is a good one too. Seriously!
Pants Buzzed
Leafs aquire aaron voros from anaheim for a conditional pic
My God man, with the deadline approaching you’re gonna have to stay home. All this pants buzzing has to be embarrassing in public.
***Subbang!!!***
not sure… looks like a 7th and hes goin to the marlies…
I was very upset after the Bruins game but I think that you are missing the point.
It wasn’t the loss. It was the type of game that it descended to that moved me and others here to anger and concern.
Courage isn’t not having fear it is over-coming it.
It wasn’t the shut-out either. It was that the Habs played a disciplined game against the Leafs and used their speed and skill to render the Leafs’ truculence and testosterone-laden style of play impotent.
That Bruins game exposed a weakness in the Habs game. At first glance it looks like the Habs need more size and grit. I can’t disagree with that. After the Leafs game it appears that the Habs can also win if they don’t let themselves get suckered into playing outside their style and into the hands of teams who employ intimidation tactics. It doesn’t hurt to score and have PP that can do damage either.
Those pants are going to be active for the next 10 days, enjoy it
“Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan
pfffff you speak like im not shameless, public pant buzzin ftw!
damn straight, its gonna be a partay!
What you describe as always been a point of contention with me, it has been disappointing to see Montreal lose players for no return. I give management a bit of a pass on this, after all how many playoff teams sell off assets at the deadline? That said, I doubt management changes course this trade deadline, I only hope assets aren’t wasted on the most marginal upgrades, e.g. Philips, Neil, Penner etc. Any trade made should have some long-term value to the team. I would be all for players like Moen or Spacek traded for a future asset.
touché
Although for Big Mike his paycheck, and being booed in Montreal are the only memories he has of the time when he was a good player. Probably nostalgic, and heartfelt for him.
And, HH, Detroit exposed a weakness in the Bruins’ game, beating them back to back with skating and great puck movement.
The Habs have 3 – 1 series lead on the (supposedly) Big, Bad Bruins. Not so bad, wouldn’t you say?
My heat went out last night, and its 47F in my apartment, I think PK might be at fault here.
TSN is going show what some of the Habs are like in their everyday lives starting in March! Could be good..
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=36387
24 …in response to your post below…I agree the Flyers are a focre…the force to be reckoned with in the East…on paper they have everything but a legit goalie and I would bet money they acquire a vet there too by the deadline. However, I would not write Pittsburgh off yet, despite losing Malkin, they played all the time with Malkin without staal, the get Crosby back, make a deal for a winger or two who can capitalize or at least let Cros bank pucks of fhem and they are legit. The BRuins are very complete too, and as tough as Philly….if those two meet whoever plays teh winner will likely be playing a very battered team ( i Guess the number 2 seed needs to make it though for that to happen). Tampa is decent too and any team t=with St Louis and Stamkos as their front end players and calls Vinny, Gagne, Malone and Downie their second tire is looking good….their concerns will be on D, is HEdman ready for primetime and the playoffs?
Montreal is a defensive team, a workhorse team, a trapping team taht frustrates teams to no end….we can however be bullied a bit as evidenced by our three years running being eliminated by PHilly/Boston/Philly….but in a 7 game stretch anything is possible. Are we a top tier team wiht no Markov/Gorges? nope…but I would nopt write us off either. And I think there are plenty of teams in the East that could knock Philly off too….sometimes there are too many chiefs…..Philly fits that bill IMO. Pronger goes down and so does phily, or if you get udner PRiogners skin he reaacts…as is the case with HArtnell and many of those guys….if a team has the balls and lack of brains to agitate them very bad things could happen…but it could led to a ton of pp time.
I think we have a decnt team this eyar and anything is possible….I don;t know about going all in on a rental or anything but if we acquire a higher end player who still has time on his contract and would be around for next eyar too…tahn I am all for it. We are at the beginning of what I see as a great three year run….this would have been a better year had Markov and Gorges not gone down long term…but…next year will be a big year so if we were to get an Iginla type I would not deem it a poor decision. I think we have plenty in the dept of youth and I think it is always worht taking a run at things…but obviously that means not ridiculously overpaying for an aging guy like Iginla(I am using this an example knowing he is pretty well untouchable right now). I fully expect however for us to add at tough winger and a stay at home dman or both for the deadline. I can easily digest non first round picks for rentals and we ahve plenty of prospects too. IF a real hcoeky trade presents itself that sacrfices the long term future for a player who will help us for the next 2 playoffs or more…I would be all over it. It would also give us options heading intot he summer as their are definitely some uncertainties with Markov and Gorges…so an asset now may seem like it is hurting the future but may actually be filpped later or make someone else expendable to address other needs later on.
I always drag things out but I guess I am saying I wouldn’t write off a deal yet…I expect us to act…probably depth moves ..but in Eklund style I am going to say that there is a good possibility that a larger deal comes along and we jump at it. It hink the Fisher and Versteeg deal are pretty intriguing……Late foirst round picks and 3rd rounders for guys with plenty of contract and use ahead…..I think the one thing the Kovalchuk and Hossa deals did is lower the values in futures trades and deadline deals. I wuold have though Versteega t thsi point in his career would be worth a higher first round pick and a prospect further along, Fisher I thought would have warranted slightly more as he is signed at a reasonable rate. I think Regehr is now off the table but Phillips would not cost much now..certainly not Pacioretty…heck I think ultimately he’ll go for a late 2nd or 3rd, Neil….proably a middle tier prospect or mid round pick as he is signed at 2 million which is about right but with that much term temas trading for him as he gets older likely have the leverage as Neil is not a guy who possesses a skill set that will age well.
So much hignes on the teams intentions with markov/Gorges/Gill and Hammer…..and that is the frustrating thing…wondering what in the world management thinks of our backend for the remainder of this eyar …but more importantly what they envision going forward…do they know something we don’t about Emelin? who knows….the deadline will be interesting but I would be shocked if we don’t make a couple of moves.
I totally agree.
Smaller Habs teams have beaten bigger, badder Bruins in the past.
Plus ca change….
Blame Subban, Blame Subban!
That’s what TSN chooses to do
And that Jerk Don Cherry too
Blame Subban, Blame Subban!
Habs call up Brendon Nash
PRESS RELEASE
MONTREAL –The Montreal Canadiens announced Tuesday that defenseman Brendon Nash has been called up from the AHL Hamilton Bulldogs. Nash will join the Canadiens in Montreal, for tonight’s game against the Buffalo Sabres, at the Bell Centre.
The 23 year old, 6’03’’, 210 lbs defenseman has recorded 23 points (3 goals, 20 assists) in 50 games with the Bulldogs this season. His three goals have all been scored on the power play. He registered 53 shots on goal and served 41 penalty minutes. Nash is tied for second on the Bulldogs with a +12 differential.
In his last season at Cornell University in 2009-10, Nash led all team defensemen in scoring with 19 points in 33 games (2 goals, 17 assists) and served 48 penalty minutes. He recorded a total of 67 points (8 goals, 59 assists) and 173 penalty minutes in four full seasons with Cornell. From 2004 to 2006, Nash registered 60 points (9 goals, 51 assists) in 112 regular season games with the Salmon Arm Silverbacks of the BCHL (British Columbia Hockey League).
A native of Kamloops, BC, Nash signed with the Canadiens as a free agent on March 30, 2010. He participated in the Canadiens’ development camp, as well as the rookie camp and the team official training camp in 2010, from which he was released on September 27, after posting a 1-1-2 record in two games.
Habs recall D Brendon Nash from Hamilton.
I wonder if they will put it online so we can see it here in the States
“Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan
Why is the Sabres/Habs game tonight the only one with no betting line?
Should we be worried about Gill?
“Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan
Pants Buz…
bah nvmnd its been said
Brendan Nash recalled from Hamilton, big body with a mean streak…..
Burke went out and acquired the same type of players that the hypocrite Lemieux did with his.
Because everbody knows the Habs are gonna win.
Which means nothing, really. Backup goalies have had the Habs numbers for years, now. No matter if it’s fifth stringers or flat out rookies. They gotta stay frosty and follow the game plan.
Yes, at least for the short-term. Sounds like he won’t be ready during the road trip.
Seriously. Are there some big names that were not known before on either team not to play?
Yes this guy is going to be great. He has the size and the skill, could be the next Robinson….
Who’s left in Hamilton??
220 pounds. this is the next/first meeting of these teams since sabres pounded the habs all game long causing all those injuries a couple of weeks back.
No point for MTL fans to boo him anymore. He’s actually a good presence on the ice when playing the Habs. the fans should cheer, albeit mockingly.
Don’t understand Farenheit.
Nor why the US continues to be the only country left in the world using it.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Gotta love the Gazette for things like this: http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/editorial-cartoons/index.html
♪Your cares and troubles are gone. There’ll be no more from now on. From now on happy days are here again, the skies above are so clear again. So let’s sing a song of cheer again. Happy times, happy nights, happy days are here again♪
when i look back at all the injuries the hab have had, and all the back up tyey have in hamilton, i say, I wonder why MR GAINEY was let go. Every move he’s made seem to be paying off,even some who have gone.
I can’t believe it!!
Brian Burke is going to try to make a BIG SPLASH DEAL in the summer??
That’s incredible.
Well, I have to say that it’ll go along nicely with all the other BIG SPLASH DEALs he’s done in the past. Lookit them!
- Jason Blake!!
- Phil Kessel!!
-Mike Komisarek!!
- Dion Phaneuf!!
When your BIG SPLASH DEALs go this well, there’s no reason to stop doing them!
—Hope Springs Eternal—
I think there’s an app for that, no?
———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~
8C
not so fast, bermuda uses it as well
Come trade deadline, you’ll have no juice left.
———————————————————————— “Young people have seen that a team can play electrifying, fascinating hockey while still behaving like gentlemen.” ~Serge Savard~
Outstanding analysis and post. We lost virtually the entire team prior to the latest rebuild. Koivu, Kovalev, Komi, each could have fetched a valuable prospect or high pick. Some of the lesser players could have been useful.
Who’s leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?
Let me get this straight, Lupul wanted a time-out so he could adjust his bunched panties before PK kicked the snot out of him. It must be hard to fight with a maple leaf embossed thong riding up the crack, no wonder he lost. Maybe Burke should look into changing the rules at the next GM meeting.
Crosby, Richards and Ovie, all think that PK doesn’t show them enough respect.
Sounds like PK’s doing his job to me. Keep up the good work.
..always with the negative waves, Moriarty, always with the negative waves..
can we get some sensitivity training here???
I got two words for Mario …. Matt Cooke.
I have to rinse my mouth now.
Philly will be in a right tight spot next year cap wise. $57.5M committed to 17 players (1 goalie, 6 D, 10 F) Leino is the only big name UFA this year. After next year the team has $44M tied up on 11 players, Van Riemsdyk, Versteeg, Carle and Coburn will all need contracts. Going for it now is the right move, Philly has to be operating on a 2 year window, this year and next, after that all bets are off.
Can we talk about Subban for a change? I mean, c’mon, the poor guy never gets center stage!
No, really folks. Here’s my thing with Subban and all the negative criticism shovelled his way. If the media (even this media right here) would please stop giving a soap box to any team, player or coach anytime Subban even breaths, all the talk would die. You may not be the instigator, Mr. Media, but you do a hell of a job of transforming a camp fire to a forest fire.
Can we please let this young man play his sport before these attacks break him? He is a mere 21 year old.
For God’s sake, leave him alone.
You and I both know Mr Subban is a bit of a showman. Do you really think he isn’t enjoying the attention?
No that there was much chance of it ever happening, but I think we can put to rest any rumours of a possible Jarome Iginla trade.
Calgary beat Colorado 9-1 last night to move into 8th place in the ultra competitive Western Conference playoff race. Iginla scored twice to run his season totals to 25/31/56/6/4 which is good for 9th place in the NHL scoring race. Alex Tanguay also returned to the line-up and tallied a marker.
Be 21 again. Be in a ‘spotlight’ position for social and hockey reason. Be unsure if your next faux pas puts you in the coach’s doghouse or gets you some disdainful look from your teammates… and tell me if you would enjoy it.
I usually agree with your take on things but I believe that you are totally overlooking the human fragility of PK in all this. And forget the assumption by many that P.K is tough mentally etc and can handle alll this… look at how long it took him to regain confidence after his sudden benching where he wasnt even counsulled (not consoled) by his coach.
Mark – I think that Philly is taking a page out of CHicago’s book from last year. You get as close as possible to a legit Cup run and then indirectly go way over the cap (in terms of the following year) to enhance your chances.
If you win (like Chicago did), it’s well worth it even though you have to sell off assets two months later. If you stumble you still have a decent core to try it again in a few years (like Chicago probably will).
Given the choice between being good for ten years with no Cup or being average overall but with a Cup……
I’ll take the Cup, no question..
OK so after the Bruins loss, I was a tad upset with the boys.
Looking at the standings today makes me happy.
We are missing a ton of talent, and in 5th place. (moving on up)
Noice!
They Call Me Shane
Amen. He’s only human and a 21 year old human.
Mr. Hickey – the real reason there is no fighting in the playoffs is because all the stupidity which normally leads up to it goes away- hooking, roughing, slashing, boarding, unsportsmanlike conduct- because players cannot afford to take the minor penalties associated with those infractions. That and the fact most teams don’t dress their “fighters” unless of course you are fighter who can play – which is exactly the type of player the Habs need two of. If we happen to get a blow out playoff game – say 4 or 5 goal lead in the third – watch out for some fights as the losing team tries to stir things up.
There’s negative attention and positive attention. When you are booed at sporting arenas (other than your own) and veterans call on you for what you say and do and put a mark on your forehead, that is not pleasant attention. This is the negative stuff I don’t like to see the media by into.
He wasn’t let go. He left. He’d had enough of the type of negativity in certain areas of the media in Montreal, and the kind of Playstation GMing that we get on sites like this.
People are still trying to villify him for having built a team that missed the playoffs once in the past six years, from a team that missed it more than they were in it. Not to mention finishing first in the East, and going to the Conference finals.
People like to complain. Makes them feel like they’ve said something insightful.
—Hope Springs Eternal—
Absolutely, what you describe might be the new model for some teams now; get as close as you can and then add as much as you can and worry about it later. Philly has been building toward this for some time now, the Pronger trade and signing, now this trade. Philly easily has one of the weakest farm systems in the league, and it will likely only get worse. It is all about winning this year or next, then hoping to make a few smart moves and get back into the race again in a few years.
I hope Montreal is like this in 2 or 3 years.
Yup, Bob G and Gauthier do deserve credit. There are a lot of rookies on this team and we are still in the thick of the playoffs.
Wasn’t he on waivers last week? I guess there’s no point in the Leaves getting something for free when they can pay a good pick for it.
I’m completely frustrated with how unlucky the Habs seem to be. Judging by our teams strong play this year and our placement in the top 10 in the league despite all of our key injuries , it has me lamenting over the post-season that we could have had. We had the potential to go all the way this year if we were able to keep this team intact but it just wasn’t in the cards. This team is still quite capable and we have shown ourselves to be giant killers on more than one occasion but with the lack of depth we have due to all the injuries its hard to consider this season anything but a lost cause.
I know that sounds bleak but we have been slowly watching a strong team get built over the last few years and I know that at least for me, making the playoffs isn’t good enough anymore. We are better than that now.
Yeah I thought about that as well. I guess thats the good thing about it is that we have been forced to give extended looks at the kids in hamilton. I’m liking the future of this team I just thought that with the right amount of luck and performance we could have been huge this season. Who knows maybe the team will surprise me come playoff time. :p
To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high…
The Canadiens are 5th in their conference and a point behind the Bruins for the division title. Most people would have written the season off in January with injuries to Markov, Gorges, Cammalleri and a disappointing December record. Now add Hall Gill to the list and the team is in more trouble.
However this team has been resilient. The management of Gainey and Gauthier deserve a lot of credit. They have built a strong farm team through drafts, trades and player development. By signing Picard and Halpern and trading for Wisniewski, they have added depth to the team. When the team was struggling, their farm team provided Pacioretty, Desharnais, White, and Webber which has helped this team tremendously.
There are others like Boyd, Engqvist, Palushaj, Henry etc waiting for their chance. Some teams have to trade away their future to salvage a season or rebuild. Gainey and Gauthier have built a strong support structure that has enabled the team to withstand losing their top two defencemen for the season and their best scorer for about a month. Credit the coaching staff also for getting the players to play within their system.
“It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri
No Miller tonight, Enroth is in nets tonight.
Get this “Brian Burke, president and general manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs, said he agreed with Lemieux in that the violence last Friday’s game was unacceptable.” Since when does he NOT support violence?
what up double post
tonight i expect a win.
i’m sitting here patiently awaiting the arrival of my new niece or nephew and since they live in Toronto, their father is a Leafs fan….and I need this baby to learn properly, from the day it’s born.
this is nerve wracking!!! COME ON BABY!!!
and let’s get a win!!!!
It wasn’t the loss to the Bruins it was that the Habs were on the receiving end of dirty play and intimidation tactics and they fell for it.
The game against Toronto showed that they can win against a team that plays that type of game by playing smart.
That is why I feel better.
If Montreal is going to be like this in 2 or 3 years, they will have to become a lot more focused on that goal. We had a glorious chance to generate some assets for the future two seasons ago, with 11 UFA’s, but made very few moves at the deadline in a misguided attempt to make the playoffs.
This summer, we’ve got a number of UFA’s (Hamrlik, Gill, Markov, Wisniewski, Halpern and Darche), RFA’s (Kostitsyn, Gorges, Pouliot, Pacioretty, White, Desharnais, Pyatt, Weber and Picard, most of whom will be looking for raises) and a couple of veterans that could be attractive to a Stanley Cup contender (Moen, Spacek).
So much of the focus here in Montreal is always on who we can add, but I’m more interested on who the Habs can exchange for some draft picks or prospects in an attempt to build for that run in 2 or 3 years. My vote is Travis Moen, who I feel is one of the most invisible players on the roster but whose name could generate some interest from a team like Boston or Vancouver or Detroit as they look to gear up for a Stanley Cup run. I doubt you could get a 1st round pick for him, but a 2nd round pick might not be out of the question depending on the market.
Philadelphia has been masterful at using their draft picks and veterans to secure new assets. I think Montreal’s management needs to be a little more aggressive in the same way. A late first round pick this season is a crap-shoot due to the weakness of the draft beyond the top-10. If you could pry another team’s RFA headache off of them with that pick, it might be worth the gamble.
It’s why they play the games. Nobody can predict the future. People can talk odds and stats and history, recent and ancient, all they want.
***Subbang!!!***
I LOVE it!!
***Subbang!!!***
seems like flyers have passed the 1st test. They have been mostly injury free for the most part of the year. point taken its still along way to go and anything can happen. that being said flyers look strong in many areas. i still hate them.
Dave – I’ve been well schooled in the world of the reverse Mike Boone jinx.
In fact, I didn’t really write that post. Mike did and then posted it under my name:-)
Nashville’s first for Fisher, Philly’s first for Versteeg. I say Murray got more value. Versteeg is younger and the Nashville pick is worth more. Way to go Burke.
Who’s leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?
Now for the next 5 months it will be wall to wall coverage of who the %&$$%ing Laffs draft with their 21 st pick.
“We interrrupt stanley cup game 7 overtime to bring you this important news bulletin. Bryan Burke just went for a crap.”
“Bob, we all do our best thinking on the porcelain throne. WHat will he be thinking about there in terms of the draft ?”
Odd thing though – what were Philly missing more than anything else? ANother 20 goal scorer to add to their 8 or a goalie?
Good heavens, Steve. The sky is falling, Flyers guaranteed the Cup and Habs haven’t a hope all because the Leafs got rid of a middling player? The guy is firmly entrenched in 96th place for points and he’s going to “light it up” (as people love to say) in Philly? (I exagerate for effect
This whole mid-February annointing of the Flyers as the 2011 Cup winner has a familiar ring to it; last year’s mid-February Cup winner, the world champion, praise be to all who sail on her, Washington Crapitols. Though something happened on the way to the forum, didn’t it?
Look, the nobody but blindly loyal fans and faith healers truly believed that the Habs were a Cup contender this season (and you do point that out, for sure). It’s a good team, an improving team, but still a few forwards short of a run for the hardware. Versteeg is a dime a dozen player and the trade, while good for the Flyers, doesn’t guarantee squat. First they have to make it to the playoffs healthy. Then they have to remain healthy in the playoffs. Then they have to not fall into the trap of taking any playoff opposition lightly. Then they have to have their playoff goaltending step up.
G&G won’t mortgage the future. They’re a smart pair.
***Subbang!!!***
I’ll give you the short version now so you wont have to worry.
Habs 3- Buffalo 1.
Habs 2-Edm 2… ovt I dunno who wins.
Habs lose in Calgary.. sorry!
Habs 5-TO 1… by then we would have made that big trade.
Know what’s funny? I remember having “no hope” against the Caps and Pens last year too!
- In Price We Trust
Amen. PG, feel free to move older assets *cough* Spacek who won’t contribute when it’s our turn to make a Cup run.
Who’s leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?
Tommy, you lucky bugger! Have a great time. Who cares about hockey when you’re livin’ the good life!
No doubt about it, the Flyers are going for it this year. They have to. They had a legitimate shot last year, only to hit the wall in the final vs. the Hawks. So much is going in their favour this year. The Penguins having serious injury troubles with star players, the Caps not looking any better than last year, and really very little else from other teams to say they could take a run at the Flyers in the East, other than maybe the Bruins. And that is still a big maybe. Not to beat a dead horse, but the league turning a blind eye to some of the goofy stuff also bodes well for the Flyers chances. This is their real shot, this year, and they know it. Unless anyone has a soft spot for Orange, better hope they fall flat on their faces in the opening round, as does frequently happen with front-running teams.
I don’t think anyone, least of all Habs brass, can honestly think the Habs have a legitimate shot this year. I agree with your assessment regarding our assets. A Cup run is not in the cards, so know when to fold ‘em. I’m not suggesting folding the tent and not compete hard. I’m just saying, like you, keep your key guys and youngsters for another day.
I mentioned the other day I was going on vacation, you asked me where I was headed but I didn’t get back on here until much later that day. I’m leaving Thursday morning for a Caribbean cruise…Half Moon Cay, Aruba, and Curacao. I’m going to miss 4 games in the eight days I’m away, including the Heritage game. I’ll be very sad about missing the western swing and another shot at the Leafs. Sad, for about 3 seconds
There will not be much chance to get any news about hockey down there, or on the ship. The sports bar on the ship will probably just have one channel, consisting of golf/soccer/tennis. Might have to purchase an internet package on the ship. I’ll see how my bar tab budget is going. Priorities, ya know.
I believe thatthe habs have the returns available, the cap space(injuries etc) and the rest of the parts to add TWO players and improve their team to where they will be better than playoff fodder and with the right measure of luck and opportuned execution achieve surprising playoffs success.
The players need must contribute the following: size/push back courage/consistent hard work/team first attitude/playoff experience/ability to play within a failry restrictive system/enough talent and skill to increase the effectiveness of the five man unit on the ICE.
My choice has already been stated. Neil/Phillips. Add these two to the team without giving away any of Price/Pleks/P.K/Pacs/Gionta/Cammy/Gomez/Gill/Wiz and I deeply believe that this team will make some major noise in the playoffs barring further injuries.
Others I would prefer to keep but will consider including if it makes or breaks a trade are DD/Pouliot/Weber.
And again my scenario is that we add TWO players… not ONE. And two who match the two I mentioned above in experience, attitude, skill and work ethic.
Good move by the Flyers in picking up Versteeg. In terms of depth, they have the best group of forwards (Briere, Giroux, Richards, Hartnell, Versteeg, Leino, Carter, van Riemsdyk and Zherdev) in the NHL, an outstanding top-5 on the blue line (Pronger, Timonen, Carle, Coburn and Meszaros) and a promising young goaltender (Bobrovsky).
I don’t see anybody in the East beating them, but upsets are the norm in the playoffs and the Flyers are the type of team that sometimes go into strange funks. How that team struggled to make the playoffs last season is a mystery, and I wouldn’t put it past them to go into another inexplicable nosedive at some point.
I’m with you that the Habs shouldn’t give up too many assets building for this season…we are a long-shot at best, and would need a significant amount of luck, as we have had the past couple of Stanley Cup wins by the Habs, in the form of other teams knocking off the teams that we don’t match up with particularly well (Boston, Philadelphia). There is no trade out there that will elevate the Habs from the second or even third tier of Stanley Cup contender to legitimate threat, so they are just as well to dance with the date that they brought to the prom and hope for some good luck.
true dat steve..if habs do what you have suggested then thats the signal realizing its not our year. i hope this is the way it goes with G/G.
PS…bruins just getting stacked..thanks burke.
The most frustrating thing is the fact that Philly’s forward core is based around players that the Habs had a chance to draft. Not to mention that guys like Richards, Carter, Giroux, even Pronger are all signed to cap-friendly contracts.
If you’re a Hab fan, the glass certainly is half empty this morning when you analyze the Versteeg deal.
The Flyers are ‘all in’ when it comes to a legitimate run at the Cup this year. Montreal was always a bit of a long shot but this deal means we have no hope of getting past Philadelphia. Pittsburgh’s injury woes and Washington’s season long funk only serve to open the door a little wider for the Flyers.
It appears that Burke will now let the laffs go into free fall when it comes to finishing out the season. This means that the Bruins’ first round pick should be a lottery choice which may allow them to grab one of the top four kids. God help us all if it’s Sean Couturier. Failing that, they will still come out of it with Hamilton or Murphy. The only saving grace might be the Bruins’ inclination to trade the pick off in an attempt to go for the brass ring.
What does this all mean for us? G&G will hopefully come to the conclusion that this may not be our year. If that’s true, then it’s imperative that we sit tight and not make any major deals. This would be the worst time to sell off a key asset in a feable attempt to win it all. I can see trading a Carle, Maxwell or a mid round pick for an over-the-hill rental on defense, but that’s about it.
I’m not throwing in the towel, just trying to be real.
The ol’ saying goes, “stranger things have happened.”
If I remember correctly back to last year’s playoffs we had ‘no hope’ of getting by Washington (121 pts) and ‘no hope’ of getting by Pittsburgh (101 pts) but we did.
Sure a lot of the success was due to guys stepping their games up at the right time, but there’s no reason why it can’t happen again.
Let’s wait and see what moves are made around the 28th….
what you should be more concerned about is having to change your name after they win the cup this year, WOOOOOOOO GO HABS GI!
Burke and the Leafs are really jerks aren’t they?
This is what he said to justify the Versteeg trade:
“Kris’s best contributions would come on a better team”
I think the guy is completely out to lunch. Big ego who got lucky with Bryan Murray and Pierre Gauthier’s team in Anaheim.
i agree
I think the Habs need to go with the horses they have.
Like many posters have said I’d also like to see Eller sent to Hamilton when Cammy returns so that he can develop his offense and regain his scoring touch.
I’d also sit Pyatt in favour of White when Darche is good to go.
As far as the Flyers are concerned, don’t resign yourself to thinking the Habs can’t beat them. It’s a long shot I agree and the Flyers look like the #1 team in the East without a doubt.
However they also look weak in 2 years as do the Pens and the Caps. That truly does represents an ideal time for the Habs to make their move to dominate the East and hence be in a position to play for the Cup.
I’ve always been against selling the future for a shot at the play-offs. In today’s NHL selling some future for a bit of today is only a good move if it means a shot at the Cup.
Keep on keeping it real!
Steve – I agree that Gauthier should not make any deals involving selling assets for rental players, but I’ve thought so since we learned Gorges was done for the season. Even before the Versteeg deal, there was no way we could have beaten Philly in a 7-game series unless their goaltending completely fell apart, which didn’t happen last year. They’re simply too deep and too well-balanced. The addition of Versteeg pushes them over the top, their only possible weakness being goaltending.
This is a good deal for Philly, less so for Toronto since the picks they acquired will be low ones, and tough, gritty 20-goal scorers are not all that abundant. The real winners, as you point out, are likely to be the Bruins, whose 1st round pick from the Kessel deal will be higher than it would otherwise have been. Boston will get better; but their rather inglorious playoff history in recent years leaves room for hope that it won’t do them much good in the long run.
How does AK compare and what do you think PG could get if he decided to move him?
Who’s leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?
PS – thanks for including my post in your ALN column a few days. I felt like Courtney Cox getting the nod to join the Boss on stage…
Who’s leg do I have to hump to get a dry martini around here?
Fisher is a better player than Versteeg. Burke got what he could get.
Same as what Burke got minus the 1st rounder?
…A caller on team990 expressed concern that after the fight with Lupul there was no banging of stick on the ice as Subban went to the bench… as is normally the case of teammates showing unison with the player who stood up .. whether it was a win or lost in the fight…
I’m not sure about RDS but CBC showed the Leafs bench after the fight and did not show Montreal’s. Typical CBC bias. On Canada’s National Hockey Day, it was the Maple Leaf show. The camera showed the Leafs leaving the ice after the loss and not Subban and Price’s end of game celebration. They cut away from the 3 stars. They had comments about Phil Kessel all night. Very sad for a show that was once a Canadian Institution with Danny Gallivan, Dick Irvin, Ken Hodge, John Ferguson etc.
“It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri
I agree.
If I were a young player I would want to play in a market where there was no pressure. NHL Hockey is all about the $$$ now, not the pride of playing for the Montreal Canadiens or any other team.
When a player leaves a team like the Ducks for example where there are 2 microphones in his face on a good day, where as there are a dozen in Montreal. In Montreal a player walks down the street with a woman who is not his wife the reports are he’s cheatin. If he’s at a club then he is pissed out of his mind. Carey Price vacations in Mexico and pics of him drinking beer is plasterd all over the net & he’s a boozer…
Just listened to the audio clip of PK and had previously heard some comments from him with Andy on team 990. While I enjoyed his aplomb and sincerity in answering, I think the journalists carried on the interview much too long trying to get answers from a rookie on things like fighting etc.
Where was a veteran to come and rescue/end the interview when it veered off into those comprehensive areas as ‘fighting in hockey).?? Where wa sthe administration?
It was the first interview I heard where something in his voice and remarks tell me that habs managament and fans better decide if they want to have this rookie’s back or have him end up with the need/desire to be out of the pressure cooker and highlight of this city.
A caller on team990 expressed concern that after the fight with Lupul there was no banging of stick on the ice as Subban went to the bench… as is normally the case of teammates showing unison with the player who stood up .. whether it was a win or lost in the fight. I cant say that I have perfect recollection but only thing I saw was a mild pat on the back as he passed Gomez. And if you subscribe to the ‘where there’s smoke there’s fire’ theory then it certainly has appeared that habs players have not gone out of their way to ‘have his back’.
I count myself as on of the habs fans dyeing to still be alive when we have our next ‘exciting, ‘look-who’s-got-the-puck’ player in the mold of the habs of the past… the last of which was maybe Richer. I dont count Kovalev as a true hab.
And I am keeping my fingers crossed that Subban is gonna be that. It would be a shame to see lack of support from the organization and tepid support from his teammates leave this young man wanting to go somewhere calmer and less under the microscope.
It would be a SHAME!
Gonna go listen to the other clips now.
“It is time, however, for his teammates and management to show more overt support.”
I agree with you 100%. I posted below re the clip I listened to then I went and listened to JM. In my opinion I would have liked JM to have been more emphatice re the support for PK.
I know people are gonna jump on my comments as further proof that I am a JM basher. But I listen to his response and to Garth Snow’s response and other coaches response and I feel let down for P.K.
PK is the player every team wants. Richards of the Flyers is a whining piece of sh!t. The fact that he started all this “controversy” and that writers around the NHL have picked it up shows how desperate the league is for star players like PK.
It is time, however, for his teammates and management to show more overt support. They should have answered Richards when he whined a couple of months ago.
With the Flyers in whine mode (following their captain), I don’t see a Cup in their future.
I agree that Philly is outright winner here.. Versteeg will fit in perfectly in that lineup and will be even more of a contributo there than he could have ever been in Toronto. He was very good in Chicago’s playoffs.
But I also think Burke did what e had to do by getting draft choices.
I dont know how Murray got as much for Fisher as he did.. maybe it was some sort of extra pressure applied on Murray by Fisher and wife to be trade to Nashville.
Philly is the clear winner of the Versteeg deal. Cox also right on the money when he says the flyers draft extremely well.
[Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.
LOL Pierre Gauthier’s team. The guy had nothing to do with the Cup winning team. He was fired in 2002 after the Ducks missed the playoffs 3 years in a row. The Ducks won the Cup 5 years later in 2007. Burke certainly had more to do with the Cup than PG. Did you see PG’s draft record in Anaheim? Terrible. PG wouldn’t know a Cup, if it hit him in the head. Murray started the build and Burke came in and finished it.
Paul – This deal makes no sense to me. Versteeg is just 24 years old, so it’s not like you’re losing out age wise. He’s a decent 20 goal scorer who can play 3rd line minutes. Maybe he can step up to a 2nd line as he matures. He’s undersized but certainly came through in the Cup run. Philly’s first round pick is likely to be in the bottom half dozen. That player may or may not turn out. It’s not a sure thing. Burke is now bragging about having 10 picks this year. While that may be true, I’d trade all of them to get back the lottery pick from Boston. Add a Larsson to Seguin and you now have two building blocks moving forward for the next 12 years.
There’s lots of buzz about the laffs loading up cap space to take a run at Richards. Richards presently makes 7.8M a season. He will be 31 this summer. Any long-term dead is going to give you three great seasons with another three or four “Vinny” like performances. The laffs will really be rolling the dice. Burke has no choice seeing that he has to turn Kessel into gold to justify the Boston transaction. The hope being that RIchards will ignite both Kessel and the PP (Phaneuf).
No matter how you slice it, the Kessel deal is exacting a huge toll on Toronto.
Picey rushed back for the All Star game last season, he was not ready & he was never the same for the rest of the season. Cammy does not want to follow suit. If he’s not 100% then stay off the ice and get 100%. If he takes a hard hit his season will be over. The Habs need Cammy if we want to beat the BROON’S GOONS & the FLYER’S GOONS in the playoffs!
Uh, I think you missed a year, dude.
How do you cope with the loss of Markov? Easy — you go out and trade for Bogosian, sign him long term, and bid audios to Markov’s brittle bones. (e6)
Jane – Losing Gorges was a tough blow. He’s not as good as some give him credit for, but his absence means that the older guys have to log way too much ice time.
I feel that the Wiz balances out the loss of Gorges in terms of manpower (even though their games are quite different) but that still leaves us without Markov. How in the world do you cope with that loss? Not only have you lost your best defenseman, but you now have to go out and utilize another asset to replace him, instead of trading for a much needed forward.
As for Boston’s infamous playoff history, that just plays into Philly’s hands all the more.
But as Chuck always states, “that’s why they play the games.”
My! You’re up early Mr. Boone!
“Hey Richard, two minutes for looking so good!”
Since I can remember, the Pittsburgh Penguins have always been about the whining, browbeating, and ironically the team had Samuelsson and now Cooke, 2 of the most putrid who shouldve had lifetime bans from the game….
Best comment I read on youtube I think it was: Any team that employs Cooke deserves all the injuries that it gets.
[Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.
I have to weigh in on Lemieuxs comments.I watched a game one time in Tampa in which Lemieux played, and the Lighting were outplaying and beating the Pens after two periods. But after the second period Lemieux cornered the refs and was complaining furiousily to them about the play of the lightening. And,sure enough in the third period the lightening were called for outrageous penalities. Lemieux was a brilliant player, but also a brilliant moaner. It seems that a lot of superstars follow the same path of complaining to refs. I think that he has tutored Crosby the trade of complaining too, because he doesnt stop. Now, I dont agree with blindsiding someone from behind, or side shots to the head. The league should look after these situations. As for PK, just play your game,Because every team in the league would love to have you on their team. Thanks
Although this has been said before… Spacek is a Hab until the end of next season as he is an over 35 player that will likely occupy a #5 D position next year on #4 Dman cap hit. The value to the Habs is if he can continue his recent solid play after the move back to the left side and contribute top 4 minutes just often enough to ensure he does not wear down to the point of being ineffective.