Fans pack Bell Sports Complex to watch final scrimmage at development camp

Fans turned out in droves–in early July, no less–to watch the final scrimmage at the Canadiens annual development camp on Friday morning.

There was no room left in the packed parking lot at the Bell Sports Complex where fans were allowed into the stands to watch the scrimmage.

There was also no shortage of action on the ice with 10 goals scored. Charles Hudon and Josiah Didier scored twice for the white team to help lead it to an 8-2 win over the red team. Patrick Holland, Christian Thomas and Jack Nevins also added goals for the white team. Michael Szmatula and Sven Andrighetto scored for the red team.

Fifty-one players, including 20 who were drafted by the Canadiens, were invited to the camp that kicked off on Monday.

Gallagher needs new digs after trade of easygoing landlord, by Dave Stubbs

Habs’ prospects get taste of their hockey dreams, by Pat Hickey

Habs prospect Lernout tempers nasty streak with a sense of humour, by Dave Stubbs

(Photo & video Pierre Obendrauf/The Gazette)



  1. JohnBellyful says:

    Yoo hoo, new thread up.
    (You might want to scroll down quickly past the photo. Some of Canada’s Least Wanted. I say that with no disrespect. I’m the one in … never mind.)

  2. Luke says:

    here’s a whole bunch of Habs report cards, if you find yourself interested. (This may have been posted previously):

  3. Un Canadien errant says:

    Dave Pratt of Vancouver TEAM 1040 asked a Winnipeg journo (Kelly Moore?) if the Canucks could pry Evander Kane out of there with a trade package consisting of Bo Horvat, Zack Kassian and a couple of picks, and was told positively no. The Winnipeg broadcaster explained that there wasn’t a fit between the two teams for a trade, that for the Canucks to get him a third team would need to get involved. The Jets aren’t looking for prospects and picks like the Sabres are, they’re looking for players to take the next step and make noise in the playoffs.

    He went further and stated that the Jets think Evander Kane’s value will only rise this season, since he’ll be playing on a line with a second-season Mark Scheifele or Mathieu Perreault, which they think is a big step up from playing with Alex Burmistrov or Olli Jokinen. Apparently he developed some chemistry really quickly with Mark Scheifele last season.

    So, we should put to rest our trade packages consisting of René Bourque, Greg Pateryn, Charles Hudon and a second-rounder, the Jets want big pieces in any trade back for Mr. Kane, not a handful of change.

    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

    • UKRAINIANhab says:

      So I think it would have to be Pac and maybe others going the other way. Ill pass!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I don’t doubt the package offered to Wpg. to get Kane needs to be stronger than Bourqe/Pateryn/Hudon and a 2nd. But if indeed Kane does want out, the challenge for Wpg is finding players who are established (ie. Max Pac, JVR etc…) and willing to go to Wpg.

      If Wpg does need to trade him, they may indeed have to accept players more on the prospect side than established.

    • HabsWin-nipeg says:

      Living in Winnipeg, and getting to see/hear lots about Kane, I don’t think he is the kind of player that MB/MT would be trying to add to the team. Kane has legitimate power forward potential, but his character is in question. I used to think that he was not a team player, but I have modified that thought. My belief is that Kane is a team player as long as the teams philosophy works for him. If it becomes contradictory in some way, he is not the kind to knuckle under and be quiet. I can’t Kane and MT co-existing well, and Kane would not be silent if there was friction between the two of them. As an example, if he was treated the same way as PK was this past season, Kane would have been in the media for all the wrong reasons. Love his skill – don’t think he’s a good fit in terms of “character” that MB is constantly preaching.

      • Paz says:

        Apparently Ryan White could give Kane some lessons on how to remain quiet.

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        The crew in Vancouver kind of bank on what you’re saying, that he’d be happy back there and things would settle down for him. The talking heads here always make the point that Evander isn’t a jerk, a sullen guy who is a cancer on a team. They explain that he’s cheerful and well-spoken, so they’re hoping that he’d be a happy and productive Canuck, as he was a Vancouver Giant.

    • Paz says:

      It was Dipsy who mentioned that Carter was traded away from Philly for Voracek, a first rounder and a third rounder.

      I think that is a fair type of return for Kane as well.

    • krob1000 says:

      That is a great article….really shows how sheltered DD has been and how underappreciated Pleks has been.

      • Paz says:

        It does not show who defends against Desharnais. Guys like Patrice Bergeron, Chara, and the like.

        Funny how quick we are to defend Plekanec because he does a great job jumping on the ice against the other teams best scorers.

        But when the other team does the same to Desharnais?


        Not a word.

        • krob1000 says:

          That is some backwards logic if I have ever heard it. Pleks matches up agaisnt the best players in the game…he plays against them. You are trying to make a case that because DD plays the other teams equivalent of Thomas PLekanec that he has it tough? HMMM…. let us now think about this. So Dd gets the favourable shown by Ukranian, DD gets the lesser shown by UKR, Pleks produces as well offensviely despite also being multipurpose as shown in article…and the only argument people have is that DD plays the toughest defensive competition(sometimes…as you are still ignoring the 41 games MOntreal gets last change and teh icings and the pp,etc,etc) ? So by this logic Pleks is the frigging man then…because other teams are terrified to line up their best players like Crosby, malkin, Stamkos against Pleks? yet at the same time Pleks is not as valuable? Then you consider Pleks puts up as many points as DD anyway? It really is a no brainer…Thomas Plekanec at his worst is better than Dd at his best …there really is no basis for any argument to the contrary that I have seen anyway….if someone has anything to show it please bring it on…I am willing to look but Ihave never seen anything yet to show me anything different.

          • Paz says:

            Desharnais does not get the lesser players. Watching the games it’s obvious that Chara and the best dmen are on the ice all the time against that line.

          • krob1000 says:

            Chara does not match up against DD…he matches up against Pacioretty. Put DD with Gionta and PLeks with Pacioretty and Gallagher and let us see where Chara is matched.

        • krob1000 says:

          Those guys are not out to defend agaisnt DD…they are out to defend against Pacioretty….and PLeks when he had DD’s role with Kovalev and Andrei K outscored DD’s best years twice….facing that competition you speak of…and all the while playing well in all three zones. If Pacioretty played with any other winger I promise that is who Chara would match up against.

    • Forum Dog says:

      It is a decent article, but I come away from it with a different conclusion. Everyone has their biases, and that article is firmly on the side of Plekanec.

      Desharnais is younger and more creative offensively. He has a lower cap hit and has good chemistry with MTL’s top sniper.

      Plekanec has been an incredibly valuable player for MTL, but I don’t see them giving him another long-term deal at $5M+/year when they have younger players coming up through the system. That, combined with the fact that he would probably fetch a better return on the trade market, makes him the most likely to move IMO.

      Having said that, I’d be surprised if he was moved this summer, or even next season. I think they’ll be cautious with moving Galchenyuk to centre, and won’t create a permanent spot for him there until he pushes someone aside. Which may not happen in 2014-15.

      • Luke says:

        Yes, I thought it was an interesting read, but rather biased as well.

        I’d have like to have seen the three centres (DD, LE, TP) compared together, instead of the “Well, we’ll just keep Eller, ‘cuz… ya!”

      • B says:

        It’s not really that difficult to select a sampling of statistics which supports an opinion.

        –Go Habs Go!–

        • krob1000 says:

          Then show us using some of your sampling how much better DD is while factoring in usage and situational play and we are all ears. I would love for someone to show me there is a valid reason for the way DD is used…it would ease my stress level during Habs games and stop htese haunting thougths I hve that the Habs are underachiving…please hit me with these selectie samples…I need them.

          • Forum Dog says:

            I have been a DD detractor, but I think Pacioretty’s 39 goals is a good validation of the way DD is used.

          • krob1000 says:

            Re below…In 2010-11 when Patches broke was NOT with DD…he scored 14 goals in 37 games…31 goal pace…..he was not the go to guy at that time but still produced at same rate. The next season he got DD…and got a whopping 33 goals…2 more thatn the pace from year before. There is nothing showing me anything other than DD is the beneficary of being best buds with a top 5 NHL scorer.

          • B says:

            Speaking of 10/11, that season rookie Desharnais without Pacioretty (I’m taking your word on that) or top wingers (a low 26.1 QoT TOI%) had .0323 points per minute played at even strength. That’s pretty darn close to his .0327 average over the last 4 seasons. FWIW, he averaged .0325 points per minute at ES in both of his last 2 seasons and .0337 in 11/12.

            –Go Habs Go!–

    • B says:

      Too bad the article declared Eller untouchable and left him out of the statistical comparisons.

      –Go Habs Go!–

  4. Harditya says:

    Good signings by Nashville today; Derek Roy and Mike Ribeiro for 2 million combined? Nice! They’re both average (maybe even below average) 2nd line centers at best, at this point of their careers, but this is a no brainer for Preds. Mike Fisher out for the near future, and their best center was Olli Jokinen. Man they need help up front.

  5. Paz says:

    I often read the argument that Desharnais gets more offensive face offs than Eller and Plekanec. Desharnais is an “exploitative center” who is expected to score points in offensive situations against weaker opponents.

    But who jumps on the ice for the other team when Desharnais and Max jump on?

    The best defensive players the other team can play.

    Top defensive dmen, and top defensive forwards, are usually Desharnais and Max’s opponents.

    I don’t often read this fact in te discussions that Desharnais’ ice time is protected.

  6. bwoar says:

    Ribeiro signs in Nashville, 1yr / 1.05M. Great contract for the Mustard Tigers.

  7. Un Canadien errant says:


    1) Apparently Sidney Crosby won’t be getting surgery after all. He’ll seek more medical opinions and try to rehab the injury.–terrible–wrist-injury-152858180.html

    2) Mike Ribeiro signs a one year, one million dollar contract with the Predators, who are desperately desperate for offence.

    It’s somewhere between a toothless attack and a vicious homage.–Paul Rudd

    • bwoar says:

      Ah ya beat me on Ribeiro by a second.

      I think the happiest guy’s gotta be James Neal.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Speaks volumes though doesn’t it regarding what other teams GM’s coaches think of Ribeiro, no? Everyone knows he can put up good numbers, the fact he had to accept a 1 Million dollar 1 year deal seems to reek of no one wants him.

        Talented player, but selfish teammate is I how I view him.

        Edit: How sad is it, that saying a player has to accept 1 million for 1 year doesn’t like much……

        • shiram says:

          It’s Colby Armstrong kind of money.
          But it’s a good deal for the Preds, if Ribs messes up he’ll be easy to remove from their team.
          And despite his lack of professionalism, he does produce.

        • bwoar says:

          He’s got a lot to prove after being uncerimoniusly removed from 2 teams. He has no excuse as Dallas wasn’t the fishbowl that Montreal is. But I’m a bit surprised he got Dany Heatley / Colby Armstrong money.

  8. Kooch7800 says:

    reasons why Weise is so much better than Diaz:

  9. HabinBurlington says:

    A review of what teams in the Atlantic Division did this offseason.


    Tim Kerr was a point a game player, hard to beat that, a 1st liner, he was also tough.

  11. Ian Cobb says:

    2014 SUMMIT GAME ACT TODAY–very little time! Limited tickets!

    Bell Center gave us very little time for you, to send me a money order and a self addressed stamped envelope. (Canadian stamp) to send you your tickets back.

    The date for the Summit is November 29th against Gionta, Gorges and the Buffalo Sabers.

    I have to have payment (money order’s only) for our HIO fan Summit event and ticket for the pre-game charity fund raiser dinner, within the next 10 days.
    Price- $83ea. and $105.ea.
    Courier is best, especially from USA.

    Meet and Greet Fri. 6pm Hurley’s pub. Watch the Hab’s at Buffalo. 1st game of the home and home game on the big screen 2nd floor. Name tags will be given out.
    Discount breakfast Chez Cora’s. Sat. morning. 8:30am.
    Bell Center and Hall of Fame tours at 10:30am.
    Pre-game dinner at the Baton Rouge and Montreal Canadiens Children Foundation raffle 3pm.
    Hab’s and Buffalo game.
    Hurley’s Pub to celebrate the win.
    Get your money orders in the mail today please. Little time before we are cut off.
    Send to me at 63 Village Dr. Belleville Ont. K8P 4K2

  12. ooder says:

    so arbitration is starting in about a week… hopefully the eller and pk issues are settled before that

  13. Chuck Kept Calm and Carey'd On ® says:

    See, this is what bugs me about the Leafs (and to a lesser extent, the Senators). It’s assuming another team’s past as it’s own.

    The Toronto Maple Leafs played their first game on February 17, 1927. They’re not to play their 100th season for another 12 years. The FRANCHISE will be celebrating it’s 100th, NOT the Maple Leafs.

    If they want to celebrate the franchise’s birthday, then fine. But then they had better acknowledge the Toronto Arenas and Toronto St. Patricks along side the Maple Leafs and give them credit for the 2 Stanley Cups that they won (1 each). It really bugs be when someone tells me, or I see it in print, that the Toronto Maple Leafs have won 13 Stanley Cups. They’ve won 11.

    It’s almost as bad as the Senators hanging Stanley Cup Banners, with their own logo on them, when the original Senators franchise stopped playing in 1934.

    Hab fans want choice! Sign the petition to give us back our games!

    • BriPro says:

      Montreal Canadiens – 24 Stanley Cups
      Montreal Maroons – 2 Stanley Cups
      Montreal “Redband” Wanderers – 4 Stanley Cups
      ….and last but no least …. the very first Cup winners,
      The Montreal Hockey Club.

      So that’s 31 Stanley Cups that have come to Montreal.
      Do we announce that to the world, or just the centre of the Universe, the GTA?

    • Kooch7800 says:

      It isn’t nice to pick on the less fortunate Chuck

    • John Q Public says:

      5:00 – Major – Actually caring about a team other than the Habs.

    • Saintpatrick33 says:

      Always wondered why the Leafs took credit for the Arena’s and St. Patricks’ cups. Stinks of a sad desperate franchise.

  14. HabinBurlington says:

    Toronto Maple Leafs turn 100 in 2016 and new CEO Tim Leiweke wants the Leafs to host everything to celebrate, wonder if this includes a Stanley Cup Parade for the team (not Leafs) that wins it?

    • Luke says:

      And Paul Ranger (the most recent of the saviour/steal/major coup signing) is off to Switzerland…

      Well… “most recent” until this off-season’s batch of saviours.

    • frontenac1 says:

      He’s that Hollywood carpet bagger,whose first order of business was to remove all the past veterans pictures from the dressing room?

    • mdp2011 says:

      “In April, Toronto city council voted overwhelmingly in favour of earmarking $10 million for MLSE’s proposed expansion of the pitch.”

      Unbelievable that the city needs to pitch in $10 mil to one of the richest sports entertainment group, so that they can expand a stadium.

      • DipsyDoodler says:

        Bread and circuses.

        Moving. Forward.

      • icemachine says:

        To be fair, the stadium is owned by the city, but operated by MLSE and the renovations are required so that the Argos have somewhere to play when they get kicked out of the Skydome in 2017

        “I can’t wait for the crowd, the noise, the energy in the building. I can’t wait to take that all away from them.”

        • HabinBurlington says:

          Based on recent attendance for Argos games, I think local Toronto High School fields should be acceptable for them.

          • icemachine says:

            It’s all moot anyway since Braley torpedoed the MLSE purchase of the Argo’s by demanding 10M and a share of future Grey Cup earnings. MLSE now just wants to renovate the stadium without factoring in the Argos. I expect the stadium being built up at York is where the Argos eventually end up.

            “I can’t wait for the crowd, the noise, the energy in the building. I can’t wait to take that all away from them.”

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      Being a magnanimous sort of fellow, I wish them as much success with their centennial as we had with ours.

  15. Habfun says:

    In other news, Archie Andrews will be shot and killed off this week while protecting his gay friend!

    It’s all about the CH

  16. BriPro says:

    3 posts since 7:00 and one since 8:00.
    Get the feeling that HIO is out in the gym training for next season?
    I won’t throw pie in the sky with trade rumours and conspiracy theories. Total waste of time.
    But I sure can’t wait, like all on here, for the puck to drop.
    My grandson either.
    He’s wearing out my living room floor with his plastic hockey stick.

    • frontenac1 says:

      Hola Brian! British Open starts Thursday. First major for Tiger after back surgery. Hoping for a good showing by De Laet . Enjoy the Cape amigo.

  17. Habfan17 says:

    The quiet “hockey days” of summer!

    Funny how a reporter’s musings about trade options suddenly become rumours. Mike Halford throws out his own suggestion that among other suggestions, the Habs may be a trade partner for Patrick Sharp. He also mentions Florida with their past trade history, and Nashville and Arizona! He never mentions there have been talks or interest and now it is a rumour!

    Ackland says his inside ‘sources” tell him the Habs and Pittsburgh are talking trade involving Pk, Pleks and Letang and Malkin. I could see Pittsburgh looking to move Malkin to add more balance to the team. A trade of Pleks, Hudon, Nygren, Ellis and a first might make sense. Malkin can play the wing and would fill that first line spot. Even Pleks, Hudon, Nygren and 2 firsts. That would free up cap space and give replenish the depth they’ve lost in recent years trading at the deadline. Nygren can probably play this season and maybe Hudon too! If not Hudon maybe Lehkonen.

    It would still mess up the salary scale in Montreal, but it would also give the Habs a legitimate first line goal scorer and right wing!


    • Paz says:

      Good morning,

      If you check out Penguins CapGeek Depth Chart, you will be in a better position to evaluate the Pens needs.

      They simply have no need for Nygren, or Ellis, because both are dmen who were drafted in later rounds and are not any better than the 5 dmen who are signed by the Pens, drafted in the first and second rounds, and are considered by most as a stockpile of depth at that position. In fact, the Pens are probably shopping dmen prospects and hoping to add wingers like they did when they acquired James Neil.

      Hudon is a winger at least, but he was drafted in the 5th round and he has not yet shown tat he can burn up the AHL, which hopefully he will do this year.

      If we wanted Malkin it would take 4 or 5 Blue Chips in return
      Think Pacioretty. Think Galchenyuk, Think Gallagher.

      Since we lack depth at the wing position, and that’s where Pittsburgh needs improvement as well, we are not a good partner to make this trade.

      Once Hudon and Lehkonen get more developed in their careers, and prove they are ready for the NHL as legit scorers, and that is not this year, then who knows what can happen.

    • Luke says:

      Malkin would not play on the wing in Habsland.

    • Dust says:

      Eklund only said that the habs and pens were talking a potential deal for letang.
      He never mentioned pk or malkin or pleks

  18. DipsyDoodler says:

    Have we signed Biggus Dickus yet?

    Moving. Forward.

  19. Habfan10912 says:

    Good morning all. Mr. Stubbs with a great piece on Gallagher and the human side of the Gorges trade.

    • BriPro says:

      Good morning Jim. Hope you’re keeping well my friend.
      3 more sleeps and we’re off to the Cape for two weeks of (hopefully) some rest, Cape Cod sunsets and fun galore.
      We just bought a new fully-equipped trailer.
      So I guess I can continue practicing my culinary talents before I invite young Sir Gallagher to come bunk with us.
      How much rent do you charge a millionaire? 🙂

  20. Cal says:

    Some Habs trivia questions- don’t google these- it spoils the fun.

    1- Who were the first and last Habs goalies to wear #1?
    2- Name the only two Habs to wear #13.
    3- What is the highest # ever worn by a Hab?
    Bonus- Who was the player that wore #10 just before Lafleur?

  21. Mavid ® says:


    Weed Wacker Grandma Smurf

  22. the subbanator says:

    1000th comment #FeelingAsenseOfAccomplishment

  23. Habitant in Surrey says:

    #RogersPetition Update

    We passed 1.600 (1,620), on way we hope to 1,700, …and hopefully soon, 2,000

    ‘Summer-time and the livin’ is easy’ ! 🙂

    Last Ten to sign:

    John Smidt, Canada
    just now

    Junior stead
    3 hours ago

    Jeff Fleming, Canada
    4 hours ago

    Roger Secord
    5 hours ago

    Cindy Stepaniak, Canada
    6 hours ago

    Steven D’Mello
    6 hours ago

    Rob Kleinman
    7 hours ago

    Brad Lenet
    7 hours ago

    Sean Spector
    7 hours ago

    sean seidman
    7 hours ago

    Again, Thanks to all


    Petition To Protest Roger’s Blacking Out Of Habs’ Games On RDS West Of Quebec

    Read and sign at;

    • Captain aHab says:

      Have you guys created a twitter account yet? Hit some of the Habs hashtags (like #gohabsgo) with that. Habs have over 600,000 twitter followers…

      Prepare to be boarded!!

  24. Chuck Kept Calm and Carey'd On ® says:

    I’ve been trying to beat insomnia by mulling over the Habs broadcast schedule at and I’m not liking what I see for those of us who live in Leaf Land and points west. Just 3 games on the tube in December (Wild, Stars and Senators…ugh) and 4 in January (including Islanders and Blue Jackets). That’s 7 games in two months.

    And the last 2 months of the regular season aren’t any better: 9 games (including Panthers, Coyotes, Islanders, Blue Jackets, and Senators) and 8 are on a Saturday, ending with another 7 games in 8 weeks, and just 1 over the last couple of weeks of the season. Enjoy that playoff push!

    And to add insult to injury to Ontario Hab fans, 3 of those final 9 televised games are against the Leafs, so we’d be able to see those games on another channel anyway.

    Hab fans want choice! Sign the petition to give us back our games!

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      Thanks Chuck :), good timing

      I think Stu, Mike, Dave and Pat should be concerned along with Us, because there will be a fair percentage of fans west of Quebec that will not be following the Habs because of the cost and complexity required.

      Therefore possibly a drop-off of 25- 40 % of the the ‘hits’ HIO now get from western Ontario to the Pacific coast.

    • icemachine says:

      As long as peer sites keep proliferating I’ll be fine. Seems like pro sports have given up on playing whack-a-mole with them lately, and it’s resulted in a noticeable boost in quality. Watched the Indy race from Iowa the other night from a euro station and it was nearly Hi-Def quality

      “I can’t wait for the crowd, the noise, the energy in the building. I can’t wait to take that all away from them.”

  25. habstrinifan says:

    Hi Friend,

    This is a great read and probably explains why Eklund has no friends among the HIO commentariat.

    May also explain why P.K and MT are deep down bosom buddies.

    “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

  26. JohnBellyful says:

    I’ve come to the conclusion that Eklund and I are a lot alike.
    He’s an echpert, I’m a pundit.
    (And as you can see, I’m as bad as he is.)

  27. Feraco says:

    I MISS THE HABS! Sending love from Croatia!

  28. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    Huh. That may be the first time I’ve been ceñš0ręð, as I referred to a fellow rëd-hëãð as bēïng 1nbřėď. Go figure. Habs ain’t no cap relief dumping ground; not with Bergevin steering the ship.

    What we need are more players whose names sound great when intoned by Michel Lacroix. René Bourque being the perfect example. Especially the playoff version of him.

  29. CJ says:

    In hockey, as in life, in the absence of information the vacuum fills with conjecture, rumours, false pretences and otherwise. The notion that PK could be traded to Pittsburgh is plausible. Because of its plausibility, folks place stock in such unfounded trade speculation. As a GM, it’s critical to the organization’s success that Bergevin keep the channels of communication open, a subject he referred to during his press conference on the afternoon of July 1st. That said, is PK being shopped, no I don’t believe so.

    In my humble opinion, worst case scenario involves Montreal accepting the arbitrator’s binding decision, and taking a two year extension. This would place the organization in a position similar to, but not exactly like, the Av’s and O’Reilly. There are still a number of pieces, around the league, that have yet to be sorted out. Given his profile, which admittedly has become worldly (Monocco with Magic, Johnny football, NHL awards, etc.), PK’s profile is among the largest in the league. Nobody gives two shakes about the situation with O’Reilly, or any other RFA. There’s PK, then there is everyone else.

    So, should we place any stock in the latest trade rumour, no. Will there be more, yes. Perhaps indefinitely. If my job was to drive visitation to my website, I can’t think of another professional sports franchise more rabid, more fanatical than those diehard Canadiens fans. So, starting a hockey buzz thread that is based on “key, inside information”, will produce the desired result. Yes we say, that makes sense. Sure, he’s always wrong, but this could be true. Folks, take a deep breath, close the computer and enjoy the outdoors. Wherever you find yourself, I can assure you it’s better then the basement of your mother’s home typing up rumours and selling fiction to a fact starved audience.

    What could possibly go wrong……just kidding.

    Cheers, CJ

  30. Frozen Village says:

    Regarding earlier posts regarding Tim Kerr. Although you cannot reduce and compare stats and come to an exact conclusion.

    If one compares TK to Cam Neely, why is one in the hall and one remembered, for well being a player for Philly.

    Kerr’s numbers were a bit better. His line mates were comparable or slightly less esteemed.

    Neely, was better at even strength. Their net contributions to their (equally supportive casts) were remarkably similar. (Stanley cup finalists)

    Yet we forget TK, and suggest that CN was the one that defined the power forward position.

    Look at the numbers and team success.

    More Swedes for the Lions in Winter

    • habstrinifan says:

      I agree. Maybe it’s because Tim Kerr ‘hung around’ to where he became like Lecavalier is now.

      I know my memeory of him is totally flawed. But I checked his stats and they were awesome.

      “Protest Rogers blackout of Habs game…sign at:

      • Marc10 says:

        Tim Kerr had a two year stretch where he was this unshakable monolith in front of opposition goals. He was a real pain. He was big, he was tall, and he didn’t move… and whatever loose puck happened to bounce near him ended up in the net. Tomas Holmstrom is probably the player that best resembles him at his best (but without the towering presence…)

        Cam Neely’s eire apparent was Todd Bertuzzi. A huge, frightening dude that could score, crash, bang and fight. A very different animal. Neely had a more dynamic game and I guess that’s why he got HOF consideration whereas Kerr has been overlooked. IMO, both players shouldn’t be in. They just weren’t dominant long enough to truly deserve a seat at the big table, but in their prime they were great during their narrow window.

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