Emelin skates wearing regular practice jersey; Desharnais on fourth line

Canadiens defenceman Alexei Emelin, who has been sidelined since last season after undergoing reconstructive knee surgery, practised with his teammates Monday in Brossard while wearing a regular practice jersey. It marked the first time he has participated in a practice without wearing a no-contact jersey.

Last week, Emelin signed a four-year, $16.4-million contract extension with the club that takes him through the 2017-18 season.

Martin St-Pierre, who was called up from the Hamilton Bulldogs on Sunday night, also took part in the practice. Travis Moen was wearing a no-contact jersey at practice along with a visor to protect a fractured orbital bone suffered on Oct. 26 in a game against the San Jose Sharks. Moen won’t be ready for Tuesday’s game against the St. Louis Blues at the Bell Centre (7:30 p.m., TSN, RDS, TSN Radio 690), but hopes to play Thursday in Ottawa against the Senators.

“Obviously it was a scary call,” Moen said of the eye injury. “I’ve had a few in my career that obviously make you really think about putting a visor on. They won’t let me play without one for at least four to six weeks. So I’ll tough it out for then and then make a decision (about keeping the visor on).”

Daniel Brière skated Monday for the first time since suffering a concussion on Oct. 19 against the Nashville Predators. No timetable has been set for his return to the lineup, but coach Michel Therrien said he is symptom free. Brandon Prust, who injured his shoulder during the same game against Nashville, also skated Monday but no date has been set for his return to the lineup. Brière and Moen both skated on the second practice rink in Brossard.

Monday was Therrien’s 50th birthday and Brendan Gallagher celebrated the occasion by giving the coach a cream pie to the face. After practice, Therrien confirmed that Carey Price will start in goal Tuesday night against the Blues.

When asked about P.K. Subban’s play this season, Therrien told reporters in Brossard: “He’s a thoroughbred, but you have to guide a thoroughbred so he’ll win you the race.”

David Desharnais, who has only one assist in 15 games and is minus-2 in the first season of a four-year, $14-million contract, was demoted to the fourth line at practice with Ryan White and George Parros.

“He wants success and we’re working with him to make sure that he’s going to get some success,” Therrien said about Desharnais. “But, obviously, the success is not there. So now we’re in a position that we have to make decisions. And we try everything with him. As a coaching staff, we met him, we showed him videos, we gave him ice time to make sure that he was able to get out of that slump. But there’s a time that as a coaching staff that we had to make some decisions and because the results are not there. Yes, we’re coaching indivduals, but in the meantime we’re coaching a hockey team as well. So we’ve got to make sure that we’re putting the best lineup that we’re thinking is going to make us win hockey games.

“We haven’t given up hope,” Therrien added. ”For sure, the results are forcing us to make decisions and we have to make those decisions.”

The Canadiens also announced on Monday that Price is the Molson Cup recipient for the month of October. Price was selected five times as the first star of the game (on Oct. 5 against Philadelphia, Oct. 12 at Vancouver, Oct. 15 in Winnipeg, Oct. 17 against the Columbus and Oct. 29 against Dallas) and once as the second star (Oct. 19 against Nashville). Price finished ahead of Tomas Plekanec and Michaël Bournival. Price had a 6-5-0 record in 11 games in October, with a 2.02 goals-against average and a .939 save percentage. He will be presented with the Molson Cup before Tuesday’s game.

Here’s how the lines and defence pairings looked at practice:

Bourque – Plekanec – Gionta
Pacioretty – Galchenyuk – Gallagher
Leblanc – Eller – Bourque
Desharnais – White – Parros
St-Pierre – Moen

Diaz – Gorges
Markov – Subban
Murray – Bouillon
Emelin – Pateryn

After Tuesday’s game against the Blues, the Canadiens will travel to Ottawa to face the Senators Thursday night (7 p.m., CBC, RDS, TSN Radio 690) and then play a rare Sunday night game at the Bell Centre against the New York Islanders (6 p.m., TSN-HABS, RDS, TSN Radio 690).

(Photo by John Mahoney/The Gazette)

You can watch a Gazette video from practice here:

Desharnais gets moved to the fourth line by Brenda Branswell

Habs vs. Blues Preview, NHL.com

Words from the room after practice (video), Canadiens.com

Habs Notebook, Canadiens.com

Therrien partly to blame for Subban’s detractors, by Jack Todd

Galchenyuk to play centre against Blues, by Pat Hickey

Blues/Habs stats, Blues.nhl.com

How Chris Chelios’s Hall of Fame career almost never happened, Yahoo! Sports

Pominville, Fleury, Chimera named NHL’s three stars of week, NHL.com

Shattenkirk rounding into form with Blues, St. Louis Post-Dispatch

Former Hab Savage bounced from Battle of the Blades, Stu on Sports blog

808 Comments

  1. slamtherimtim says:

    be nice if someone could post a youtube link with MT talking about PK from a couple years ago on antichambre

    thanks

  2. Luke says:

    The final proof of greatness lies in being able to endure criticism without resentment.
    -Elbert Hubbard

    I like criticism. It makes you strong.
    -LeBron James

    Few people have the wisdom to prefer the criticism that would do them good, to the praise that deceives them.
    -Francois de La Rochefoucauld

  3. SterlingRod says:

    I think this is the only time period in the history of the universe where a David Desharnais for Scott Gomez trade would benefit the Montreal Canadiens. Straight-up, of course. No need to sillyerize the proceedings with draft picks, etc.

  4. kirkiswork says:

    As good as PK is, he is great and I love him, he has been effin up a bit lately. It’s ok everybody effs up and it’s up to the coach to try and minimize the f ups.
    What’s the big deal.

    GOHABSGO

  5. Hobie Hansen says:

    I’ve been trying to not weigh in on the PK Subban thing because I think it’s being blow way out of proportion. Since every Montreal news outlet is talking about it I’ll add my two cents.

    Michel Therrien is old school and he likes to rule with a bit of an iron fist, he’s not racist or prejudiced against Subban. He sees Subban cracking jokes and being a bit too loose and wants him to tone it down and focus on playing defence 100%.

    I think John Torterella is a fantastic coach and he’s been tough on his players and occasionally calls them out in public. So I really don’t think it’s anything new, plenty of other coaches do it as well.

    With CH24 in the dressing room, the Team Canada talk and the massive amount of media coverage, this Subban thing is being made into something that it’s really not.

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Hobbie I think you’re right but doesn’t the coach have some culpability here? His comments appear to fuel the fire instead of putting it out.

      • The Jackal says:

        How?
        The fire is being fueled by those who buy into the story that MT dislikes PK, that’s the plain and simple truth.

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        • Habfan10912 says:

          How? Because of his mouth. It’s the words this guy is using that’s contributed greatly to this crap. Not PK’s.

          • The Jackal says:

            What words? He is not saying anything to suggest a rift or a lack of respect!

            And I don’t even like MT as a coach that much! I think he has done a decent job, but he has his flaws. Maybe like Burly said, he does not know how to handle the media. But the comments that seem to raise the ire of some are just answers to questions, and they are answers that are obvious to anyone who watched the game. “The defense did not execute well, turnovers led to a goal.” Ok, yes, PK’s mistake, but he also implied the entire the defense. I just don’t see how you take those comments to mean what you think they mean.

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      • HabinBurlington says:

        Perhaps MT’s greatest weakness is his inability to communicate properly with the Media. We have seen on 24CH that his favourite words are similar to Bruce Boudreau’s.

        As long as he and the players are getting the message and not as sensitive as many of the posters here, then who gives a rat’s ass how it is spun by the media.

        I never liked the hiring of MT, but the choices appeared limited. I still think MT is just a placeholder and that he will not be in this position for more than 3 seasons.

        When PK starts coming out with some quotes telling us how bad it is between he and MT or his agent does so, then I will get more concerned.

        The contract negotiations between MB and PK will be an excellent litmus test to show how the team feels about PK and how PK feels about the team (organization perhaps is better word).

        CHeers Jim!

    • VancouverHab says:

      But, to re-interate, Torts has been praising his star players to the skies.

      Conversely, Therrien says nothing about his star–Subban–which is not either a belittlement or a case of (reluctantly; through clenched and gritted teeth) damning with faint praise.

      So you need a valid example to make your case for Therrien. (Good luck with that.)

      Of course your location of the problem as old-school versus flamboyance is spot-on!

      • The Jackal says:

        Where do you get that MT has not praised PK?
        MT praises players, including PK!
        How is it that you can take a couple of critical comments and bad translations and then take them to mean that PK is being disrespected?

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        • VancouverHab says:

          Got a verifiable quotation to prove that?

          • Bill says:

            Probably not. Therrien hasn’t said anything good about PK that I’m aware of.

            The francophones on the site could probably point us towards a few l’Antichambre quotes where Therrien was brutal on PK, however!

            Full Breezer 4 Life

          • VancouverHab says:

            Hey–you have influence (see now top….)

        • Luke says:

          i think the problem here is that MT treats all the guys the same. PK or no PK.

          Look at him busting up Tinordi in that 24ch episode.
          Look at his comments here about DD
          Look at his Eller comment

          If someone messes up he’s not afraid to mention it.

          But at no point is he disrespectful. And so far he hasn’t been wrong in his criticism either.

          He was right. The D cost them that game. He was right, Eller should have kept the mouth shut. He was right, Tinordi shouldn’t have tried a 100 foot back hand clear around the boards. He’s right, they’ve given DD every chance to correct his play, it hasn;t worked and no he has to pay the price.

          Everything he’s said about all of these players is in the same tone and context of what he’s said about PK.

          Where’s their poo storm?

          • VancouverHab says:

            Subban made a goal and gave a way a goal. Deharnais has been doing nothing — at best — all season.

            And please let me know when Therrien says ANYTHING even mildly non-praiseworthy about The Cube. (Hint: he hasn’t and he won’t.)

            Subban is the team team stud, and he needs treatment accordingly.

            By the bye, did Dick Irvin ever say anything critical of the Rocket in public? (I assume not.) Did Don Cherry every criticise Espo or Cheevers or Orr in public?

            Any coach of Howe’s fail to uniformly laud him?

            Uhhm… No.

    • Ton says:

      understood but what many of us cannot come to terms with is that PK has not been playing well of late and slipping! the coaches will try to do there political posturing to get him going again…….when is PK at the top of his game>
      when he keeps it simply and makes the odd rush…….too many of them and he becomes predictable and prone to mistakes….. surely there is going to be some bumps in his developing….question is do we lock this guy long term and big money at the end of the year??? I’m not sold entirely but that’s me! Something is going to happen> emelin 4mill, subban 7.5, markov 5 million……..could we afford this……I’m not a cap geek!

  6. Marcusman says:

    Why no Bournival on the lines at practice?

  7. Marc10 says:

    As a side note… Glad Yemmy is nearing a return!

  8. Marc10 says:

    My two cents on PK. He’s our best player, but right now he is making bad reads that are costing us goals. The coaches are trying to weed that out of his game. Clearly they think tough love is the best way to get their message through with him… And so far that approach has worked well.

    When PK signs for 8 years at and indescent amount, we can all revise our theories as to why he’s so hated/misunderstood by his coaches.

    • The Jackal says:

      It’s amazing how some people take MT’s remarks to mean more than they do. And it’s crazy how these people’s claims rest on such ridiculous assumptions that are totally unfounded. Even if stated as their premises, they have nothing to back it up with. It’s so insane.

      At least the Halak is better than Price claims had some solid evidence to back it up.

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    • Habfan10912 says:

      Marc, I think most of us agree with that. MT is trying to improve PK’s game. Where I think some of us differ is the sheetstorm his methods seem to have created.

      • The Jackal says:

        His methods? Are we privy to the coaching plan now?
        His methods seem to have gotten PK to elevate his game, so they seem to be having a positive impact.

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  9. Max_a_million says:

    Hey my table top hockey references continue to pop.
    +1 –> me

  10. Max_a_million says:

    I have a feeling that Marc Bergevin might have said something to Michel Therrien about it. After the last game was a breaking point, and now he calls him a thoroughbred he is trying to guide. The tone has changed remarkably to high praise. I hope it stays civil, and motivational from here forward.

    • Phil C says:

      That is not the first time he used the thoroughbred analogy. I believe it was in one of his very first press conferences that he used the same line. This is nothing new.

      Edit: Here it is. At about 4:15 he talks about handling players in general. At about 5:00, he talks about how some players are thoroughbreds that need to be guided and Subban is a thoroughbred.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unKj2GzAFis

  11. Habfan10912 says:

    From the article above:

    When asked about P.K. Subban’s play this season, Therrien told reporters in Brossard: “He’s a thoroughbred, but you have to guide a thoroughbred so he’ll win you the race.”

    I gotta tell you this Therrien’s arrogance is amazing. He has to know that his mouth has created a stir among the press and fans alike and I’m guessing in his own locker room as well. And he continues to fuel the flames with this crap?

    Could he have stopped at, “PK is our Thouroughbred” and left it at that? There has been a huge amount of discussion on this issue on here and its all interesting but to me the essential point here is a coach who’s letting his own ego take center stage instead of working with his BEST player in the privacy of the locker room. This is dangerous in any industry. His arrogant method of proving who’s the boss hasn’t worked in the past and it sure as hell ain’t going to work here.

    PK will be here loooooooooooong after Coach Arrogant is gone. At least we all better hope that’s the case.

    • The Jackal says:

      Holy guacamole… they said the same shit about Carey Price, but no one called BG an arrogant prick.

      They also stated Eller had a lot to learn, hence being benched earlier, and that DD is not contributing.

      Tell me, how is it arrogant or wrong to say that players, no matter how talented, need guidance and good coaching to thrive?

      BTW, that “arrogance” on MT’s part certainly played a positive role in PK’s Norris season.

      And guys, stop assuming that what MT says is the complete picture, and for that matter, what the media says. That’s the tip of the iceberg. These guys work closely to be the best they can be, and they practice and look at video and get coached and the player gives feedback, etc.

      You say something about MT’s comments or attitude being dangerous, but what is dangerous is ridiculous comments like these, which have been getting way too much attention.

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      • Habfan10912 says:

        ar·ro·gant (r-gnt)
        adj.
        1. Having or displaying a sense of overbearing self-worth or self-importance.
        2. Marked by or arising from a feeling or assumption of one’s superiority toward others: an arrogant contempt for the weak. See Synonyms at proud.

        AND PK won the Norris in spite of his coach.

        When Gainey was talking about Price he was usually defending the player. Never once in his entire career as a player or General Manager or Coach did BG publicly call out any player. His players were always treated with the utmost respect. That is not the case here.

        • The Jackal says:

          How do MT’s comments fit the definition of arrogant? They only do so from a subjective perspective.
          They don’t meet any of the criteria in the definition above.
          Moreover, MT has done a good job so far, with the team and with PK.
          Apparently a lack of praise indicates that he is mistreating him, again, that is a huge assumption that ultimately destroys the argument being made against MT.

          And the post itself is not dangerous, it is the subject being discussed, because if it actually picks up and the media runs with it, then you have all these false allegations thrown around – it creates a distraction for the team and toxic environment, and guess what, it will ultimately hurt the team.

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          • Habfan10912 says:

            Good point but the way it’s been done it’s created a storm. Today’s comments didn’t help and they could have. My point is Therrien is the BIG BOY here. It’s his responsibility to take control of the situation. His statement today could have gone a long way in defusing it.

            I wonder how this is all being perceived in the locker room? There in lies the dangerous part.

            BTW – I love your passionate support of the coach. Me? I’ve said before I’m too tough on my teams coaches. Only three I’ve ever truly liked in my 50 odd years of sports. Bowman, Gil Hodges, and Tom Coughlin. Short list I know.

    • Cal says:

      I know MT is talking about your very favourite player, but can we tone down the reactions a little? Coaches guide players. It is what they do. Should he have said, “Pk is a great player. He is on his own and no longer requires coaching.” Now, that probably wouldn’t have caused have the storm of poo we’re reading about here today.

      • The Jackal says:

        Cal, if he had said that, there would be a shit storm on how MT is incompetent and can’t get the most out of his players.

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      • Habfan10912 says:

        True bud, as I’ve said, I’m terribly unfair to coaches. How bout today MT just said, “PK is a great player” , and left it at that.

        One other thing, when it comes to PK versus MT, don’t expect me to EVER side against PK. CHeers,

  12. CH Marshall says:

    Maybe every coach has a different style. I was definately impressed by the TV screen shots of Roy drawing all over his clipboard, taking time to talk to individual players with advice, being in communication with his team. Pan shots of MT had him in his hand on chin-resting on knee pose, something stewing in his head. Is this enough material for a new university seminar in Dialogues between French-Canadian coaches with “other” cultures? (i kid of course)

  13. Bill says:

    Is it just me, or is the site really weird today?

    Everyone take a breath.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      How about a tangent, Bill? Have you ever taught Of Mice and Men? I’m starting it this week, Grade 8 (Irish equivalent). (Murray and Bouillon?)

      • Bill says:

        Love the Irish reading standards. Of Mice and Men is a grade ten book in Eastern Canada!

        I’m doing Catcher in the Rye with my Grade Eleven advanced class, that’s always a fun read.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

        • VancouverHab says:

          What quality of greatness am I missing in “Catcher in the Rye”?

          Or, another way, what is the argument that the novel did more than merely mirror a particular and passing spirit of a limited age?

        • Dunboyne Mike says:

          We’ll see, Bill. In this particular school, there are two classes for each grade, and one of them has all the SEN kids packed into it. That’s my Gr8 class. I love them, but they are a handful. Doing OMAM because the language is straightforward, the tensions are open and obvious and the characters clearcut. And it’s 100 pages.

          I’m sure you’ll get much more out of it with your Gr11s. (I have Gr 11s for religion and we’re comparing Plato’s Cave and The Matrix. It’s fun).

          Maintaining today’s weirdness here.

    • Timo says:

      Just you. I find it as normal as always.

    • Cal says:

      Everyone’s on edge, expecting momentous news. When it doesn’t come, they’ll begin gnashing their teeth a little more.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Agree

  14. Timo says:

    Everyone is so focused on Therrien vs PK thing that you forget that Halak is better than Price.

  15. Reflektor says:

    If PK needs any additional seasoning, find a way to hire Larry Robinson. His French isn’t too bad either.

  16. Eddie says:

    Ian Cobb’s post below sums up exactly what I’ve been trying to say for a few days here, so I won’t repeat it.

    I believe Subban is now ranked against the very best dmen in the league, and there is not a coach alive on this earth who would have the nerve to tell the media that Chara, Weber, Keith, are a work in progress.

    None of those players are perfect. They all make mistakes just like
    Subban. But their coaches would never take that “I am teaching him” tone with a Chara, a Weber, a Keith, because they are already so dominant, and at the tops of their profession.

    Ian, who knows Subban better than all of us, calls it the way he sees it.

    It is time for Therrien to shut his mouth, play Subban in every key situation, and watch one of the great talents in the league carry us to the playoffs.

    • crabvader says:

      Indeed +1

    • dr. gesundheit says:

      Considering PK’s age (relative to the 3 you mention), you could make the assumption that as a very young (albeit talented) d-man, he could still learn more (to become even better). i.e. the potential (ceiling) for improvement is even higher with Subban.

    • VancouverHab says:

      “It is time for Therrien to shut his mouth, play Subban in every key situation, and watch one of the great talents in the league carry us to the playoffs.”

      That is the perfect comment. There is nothing more to say after that has been said: it certainly sums up and improves my verbose blitherings on the subject to a nicety.

      Just repost that very day until MT does just that–or until MT goes–and no-one needs to post or write anything else on the subject.

      I’ll now roll over and have a cigarette….

    • The Jackal says:

      These comments are just all wrong, they take the starting point that MT is indeed teaching PK a lesson and that that is his tone and mission. But that is false, and these commenters that jump on the PK-gate train are suffering from intense confirmation bias. MT can say anything positive about PK and they think there is a backhanded comment in between the lines.

      Subban is freaking awesome, but he is only 24, he is not even in his prime, and he has a lot of talent to give. To say that he is a work in progress means that he has not yet reached his potential – which is great because it means he can be better! The coaching staff and management recognize that PK has an extremely high ceiling, and they want him to reach it. Similarly, like you mention, other coaches would love to have the opportunity to coach PK and help him reach that. So what if MT is a harsh critic? That is because he wants PK to be the player he knows he can be, and if you know PK, like Ian does, you’d know that PK knows this to be true. There is no disrespect. A lack of praise does not mean there is a personal issue or a lack of respect.

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      • VancouverHab says:

        I wish that my wife respected and praised me as much as you respect and praise Therrien ;–)

        There are spaniels with less devotion than you have….

        (No offense intended.)

  17. Dunboyne Mike says:

    Hey VancouverHab.
    I really enjoy how you have the bit between the teeth and go full throttle (didn’t someone respectfully describe you here recently as a pitbull when it comes to defending our Prime Minister?).

    That said, I have an awful lot of trouble with a statement like this (which I’ve condense slightly, you’ll see), not with respect to how true or false it may be, but because you treat it as fact when it is all speculation:

    “Therrien’s insane (and entirely bigoted and self-aggrandising) threat that he is not going to rest until he has made Subban ‘less black and more blue-collar-francophone-old-school-NHL’.”

    Were you reading the other day when someone described frantically spinning their table-top hockey defensemen? Your sentence is like that, firing off indiscriminately in the hopes that one of your (forgive me, preposterous) allegations sticks. These include Therrien as

    - insane
    - bigotted = racist
    - self-aggrandising = prioritising his ego over the success of the team
    - old school = obsolete and therefore ineffective method/style

    Think about it. Neither you nor I would play for such a coach, nor would any Habs. At best they would go through the motions so as to collect their paycheques (cf Rangers last year, Flyers right now, Oilers etc). Nor would the organisation keep him.

    I suggest that the Michel Therrien you are railing against is a figment of your imagination.

    • Cal says:

      Geez, and I thought VancouverHab was one of my many voices in my head. Learn something new every day.

    • VancouverHab says:

      Well, pal, that’s indeed a fair criticism.

      So help me out then: the remarks against Therrien which you correctly quote from me can be supported by Therrien’s comment (verifiable on video) that he is determined to not only coach, which he should do, Subban but also, which he absolutely should NOT do, to “make Subban a better person.”

      Now, if you can interpet those remarks for me in a way that puts Therrien in a benign light, then please, please, so so.

      Because otherwise my remarks against Therrien actually let him off lightly: there are far worse available and plausible ways to read what Therrien said.

      • Dunboyne Mike says:

        Haha, VH! I can’t interpret that particular remark in a way that comes out favourably for MT. It makes me cringe! So you’re absolutely right there. I guess where I have difficulties is with what you’re finding when you read between the lines. (But please note I’m not saying not to post it!)

        • VancouverHab says:

          Well, list your own then about them, & then you’ll make me look like a better person ;–)

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            Perhaps that’s a difference between us. I reckon I’m a lot more hesitant about reading between the lines, whereas you’re happy to indulge and extrapolate. If it’s any comfort, I would lay great store by what Ian Cobb says about PK. But I won’t light a match to your Therrien straw-man because it isn’t there!

      • Cal says:

        Have you never once in your life misspoken in your second language?
        MT gets the benefit of the doubt for that remark. Of course, you can be just fooling around and stirring the pot. You write like it.

        • VancouverHab says:

          Grrr….!

          As I keep saying, if that’s the case, then please put Therrien’s remark in a way that makes him look less malevolent, self-aggrandising, condescending, and contemptible.

          Just be sure to make all his subsequent treatment of Subban–which matches perfectly the prima facie interpretation of his remarks (which, incredibly to me, it is I who keeps getting the blame here for!) –matches your promised benign translation of his remarks.

          (Best add too a confirmation that you think that Therrien is too inept a speaker to effectively translate “better person” from his first language. To my credit, I assume that he is admirably bilingual.)

          • Cal says:

            I assume he’s not 100% perfectly bilingual because I have listened to him garble English in pretty much every interview and press conference.
            Some numbnut blogger got a bit in his teeth over that remark and it’s been bounced around here ever since.

          • Dunboyne Mike says:

            I think “He cried in my arms” also lost (or gained) a little something in translation.

      • Max_a_million says:

        Good point on the better person crap.

  18. ClutchNGrab says:

    The joke that the Metropolitan division is should push the league to change that playoff format.

    Only the first team in each division should get a pass for the playoffs, the rest should fight between themselves for the 6 remaining spots.

    Top 3 doesn’t make sense anyway, why go to the first of each 3 divisions to top 3 of 2 divisions? Rivalries are created in the playoffs, not in games that lead to them.

  19. Feraco says:

    I take it back…would rather have Jagr

    • crabvader says:

      I’d rather not spend money on older guys unless they complement the team, not be heavily relied upon to produce.

      • Lafleurguy says:

        The Want Ad or whatever they call these things on Craigslist these days should have been: “WANTED: top 6 forward, age 30 to 33, ability to speak a couple of official national languages an asset.”

        “May you live in interesting times.”

  20. crabvader says:

    “castanza1

    22 mins ago

    i was in vancouver hotel where the habs stayed….desharnais is walking with extreme limp. he is not healthy and everyone bashes this guy. wow….give the guy a break….once healthy he will be fine.”

    Per someone on tsn.ca under the Dany Briere link talking about him being symptom-free.

  21. VancouverHab says:

    “’less black and more blue-collar-francophone-old-school-NHL.’
    That’s just crazy talk right there. It insults just about every race
    and culture.”

    There’s only two races and cultures in the quotation. And unless you think “black” is an insult, I don’t insult one of the two. On the exact contrary, I think that it’s a compliment. Subban is a burst of energy, fresh-air, enthusiasm, positivity, and power–just what the Habs need–heck what every team needs.

    And let me amend my punctuation to make clear that I am talking about one very specific culture on the other half: “blue-collar-francophone, [combined with] old-school-NHL.”

    And that’s Therrien to a “T”: he’s a blue collar francophone and an old-school-NHL mentality, so no problem there for me either.

    Therrien clashes with P.K.: QED.

    • slyCH says:

      OK then, we got that straight, so you’re only insulting my heritage there, am I correct in assuming this?

      • VancouverHab says:

        Fair question. Let me answer fairly.

        Quick context: I am an old-school Englishman married to an old-school Japanese woman. We have four mixed-race (obviously) Canadian kids: two boys & two girls.

        My old-school culture clashes with many aspects of my wife’s Japanese culture. And my wife’s parents’ old-old-school Japanese culture clashes–and violently–with my English culture.

        It is my belief that ‘racism’ gets tossed around immaturely and fatuously (I don’t mean by you) in this day and age (and the worst offenders–the most immature and most fatuous–are media hacks: Jack Todd certainly one immediate example, and he not alone here, alas.

        The sensible term is culture clashes: and most often, this is merely generational clashes. (I clash very heavily against my children’s culture, for instance.)

        So, I do indeed think that Therrien is an old-school francophone and that the culture there clashes with P.K.’s culture: as you know better than I, this has been a historical fact. Not alone, mind: other, non-francophone, cultures have had the same experience.

        In conclusion, this does not mean that i disrespect old-school francophone culture: quite the opposite–I admire it and enjoy reading (and teaching) its literature. That admiration–stimulated by my love of the Habs at my immigration and my perhaps deeper love for my hero, Jean Beliveau, with whom I had a life-changing epistolatory exchange, was my motivation for studying and trying to learn French.

        Best,
        VH

    • slyCH says:

      Not easy to reply to my question now is it champ. Don’t bother, I really don’t care and i’m off to work. What baffles me is the MODS leave a blatant racist and insulting remark such as this after I was kicked out for a MUCH less and innocuous comment. I guess being a Francophone on this site is fair game. Good job HIO.

    • slyCH says:

      I noticed you did some editing.

      • VancouverHab says:

        Yep: it’s a habit by vocation ;–)

        Only for spelling, grammar, syntax, or clarity: I would add a note if I changed meaning.

        We have to post so quickly here (as our recent exchange proves!) that I find I do a final proofreading pass after I post.

  22. Feraco says:

    Briere is a no risk signing. He’s not playing so others take his spit. It he plays and plays well that’s great as well. Next season they can trade him or sit him. It’s no big deal.

    UNLESS!!!!!!

    They chose him over someone else

    • shiram says:

      Except that Bergevin gave him a bonus on top of the 8 millions, a NMC/NTC.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        The NMC clause is more restrictive than the NTC. Rarely when a team tells a player they are looking to trade them, do they refuse to waive it. Perhaps he would give a list making it more difficult, but the NTC really isn’t too much of a hindrance.

        The bigger problem may be finding a team that will want him. However, once healthy I think he could help this team. This is wholly based on the fact I think he was playing hurt prior to the concussion against Nashville.

  23. Feraco says:

    Sit Deharnais is Gally is rolling at center. Leblanc can play wing. It’s not going to kill him to sit a few games and he may come back rejuvenated. It’s a long season and a long contract. Keep your centers at center and your wingers on the wing. DD is not playing center? Sit him until he can be the 3rd center

  24. jamman says:

    Was just looking over some older draft picks. Was shocked to see we drafted Kyle Chipchura 18th overall 2004. Drafted Emelin in the 3rd round 84th same year

    • Lafleurguy says:

      We had smurf-overload even back then, and Chipchura was a big kid who was in the WJIHC, and may have been the Canadian captain.

      “May you live in interesting times.”

      • HabinBurlington says:

        I don’t blame the Habs for taking Chipchura. He looked great in Junior, looked great on Team Canada (he was indeed Captain) and he fit the needs of the team. Just didn’t work out, and he had a pretty bad ligament injury I seem to recall early on with the Habs.

        Sometimes, players just don’t become what we think they will. He would actually be a nice 4th liner to have right now on the team.

  25. Lafleurguy says:

    Geez, I didn’t know Valeri Bure was a past champion of Battle of the Blades. Who, on the current roster, would you tout as future champions?

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  26. habsfan0 says:

    It’s almost 2:30.
    What happened to that press conference?

  27. Reflektor says:

    Looking forward to seeing Emelin crush that Leafs gnat Kadri.

  28. frontenac1 says:

    Hey Bripro! On election day, did you buy a round of drinks at the taverne like Duffy Leduc used to do at the Cle D”Or? All kidding aside, good for you amigo for getting involved! Best wishes.

    • Dunboyne Mike says:

      Come on, Bripro!

      “I’m really glad you asked me that. That’s a very good question.” etc

      Come on!

      And fair dues to you. Hope you had a great day.

  29. La Duke 16 says:

    I do have to say that I am against fighting – especially because I can’t remember the last fight we won!!!

    Maybe when Tinordi laid into the guy from Toronto before Parros was knocked out.

  30. jols101 says:

    Very happy to hear Briere is symptom free. No one should have to suffer with concussion symptoms. However, does anyone feel that a 36 year old Briere brings more to the team then a 22 year old Louis Leblanc ?

    I’m assuming LL will be the player sent down once Briere returns. I don’t think that makes us a better team. 7 years ago, Briere was awesome, now he is slow and on a serious decline. Not a great signing by Bergevin.

    • habs1992 says:

      7 years ago I was a child, Now i am a grown man and a stud.

      I support Carey Price
      “Habs Insider”

    • Ozmodiar says:

      If we’re talking about RW here, then they’re better off with LL in there. Great work on the boards.

      On the other hand, if they keep Chuckie on the wing, I’d say Briere would be the better option in the middle.

      /both scenarios assume DD being turfed

      • jols101 says:

        I guess that depends on if they are serious about moving Galchenyuk to center. If after his first d-zone mistake they shuffle the lines and move him back to the wing then why bother. They have to expect the good with the bad and let him make his mistakes and learn from them.

    • The_Truth says:

      You are right, Briere was a bad signing and most peole said it at the time, except for some eternal optimists. In saying that he certainly brings more to the team than Leblanc. Leblanc is still an AHLer at this point and hasn’t made an impact.

  31. frontenac1 says:

    @timo. Breezer is too busy selling tires with Marc on RDS.

  32. rhino514 says:

    Why are so many guys thinking it´s a lack of respect if Subban isn´t on the penalty kill? He´s so valuable on the PP, isn´t it smart to save his minutes for PP and 5 on 5?
    Serously, this whole thing with Subban is just getting crazy. There is probably no rift whatsoever between coach and player, people should just move on.
    Now all of a sudden if the coach has some fire, he is emotionally unstable. They are the same people who were going crazy that Jacques Martin couldn´t show a bit more emotion.
    The team has been decimated by injuries, but they will be ok.
    If they are at .500 at the 50 game mark, then ask some questions.
    Even at that point, does it send a good message to the players that any coach who treads water in Mtl for fourty games gets canned? Doesn´t that simply tell the players they can just wait out the coach?
    Things have gotten better in Mtl recently but we have to change this culture of disposable coaches IMO

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      Subban can play more than 24.30 minutes a game and I think he should. Having him not on the ice for at least three consecutive shifts (like last week at NY when we only had a 1-0 lead) is just wrong.

  33. frontenac1 says:

    Trevor Gillies is Available? Sign him Marc! I think he has more points than DD this year!

  34. habs1992 says:

    DD been cut yet?

    I support Carey Price
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  35. Bripro says:

    Amazing what a difference 6 months make.
    I was on the bandwagon saying that we should give Briere a chance.
    But I have to admit, he does in fact look old.
    Surprising, given how good he was in Buffalo.
    And although I still think MT has done quite well with our Habs, if there is in fact any racial perspective on his behalf playing against PK, then it’s time to straight trade MT for Roy. Straight up.
    I remember two years ago when so many were against acquiring Roy given his short temper (guilty as charged).
    Now, I’m sure we’d all love to have him behind the bench.
    MB will make certain that PK stays, regardless of who is coaching behind the bench.
    Now if I was given a chance to tutor PK into becoming a true stand-up separatist Montrealer …….

    • Mattyleg says:

      You might like Roy behind the bench, but do you also want him calling shots on signings and trades etc? Because that’s what he does in Col.

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • VancouverHab says:

      Glad I stayed well off the Briere bandwagon. That signing (along with the DD signing…and the MT hiring, come to think of it ) look very bad on MB.

      Hmmm…so remind me: why do we like Bergevin again?

  36. Sportfan says:

    That’s good news ! don’t rush him!

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  37. Timo says:

    I say make Breezer the coach.

  38. Lafleurguy says:

    Steven Stamkos, played one playoffs, missed four.

    “May you live in interesting times.”

  39. Bill says:

    See, every time Therrien opens his mouth he gets harder to defend: “In 18 months we’ve made a lot of progress”??

    It makes it sound like he’s taking credit for Subban’s play. It also makes it sound like PK is some kind of remedial student, instead of the best and most important player on the team, which is what he is.

    • VancouverHab says:

      Oi, Jackal: read this here: this is what I–and evidently better men than I–are noting.

    • slyCH says:

      Bill, I’m not sure if you’re being sarcastic or this is your true feelings. Kind of blindsided coming from you. I know MT’s not perfect but hey…

    • The Jackal says:

      What Sly said.
      In 18 months they have made a lot of progress. What is negative about that? PK and staff have made a lot of progress, he’s playing his best hockey and he gets the most TOI on the team. Both deserve credit, and how the hell do you infer that MT is taking credit and treating PK like a remedial student from that quote? It’s just not there, this anti-MT crowd and PK-gate nutbags just see what they want to see, it’s like the Halak is better than Price BS all over again. Hell, some still say Eller sucks.

      ______________________
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  40. rhino514 says:

    So what does everyone think happens when Moen comes back on Thursday?
    Does Leblanc stay on the top three lines, and does this mean Desharnais will finally sit? Or will they stick DD between Moen and White or Parros on the fourth line, and try to find him some extra minutes, perhaps on the wing?

  41. SmartDog says:

    It’s great that Briere is no longer dealing with concussion symptoms. Now he’s just dealing with being old and slow.

    I like the new lines at practice, but I don’t know how Bourque’s gonna play on both the first and third lines! :P

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  42. VancouverHab says:

    Via mdp2011. “Therrien on Subban: ‘We believe in his talent… ‘”

    But not enough, you know, to use him (a.) on the PK or (b.) in closing minutes of close games.

    Also “in (18 mths) we made a lot of progress.”

    Who’s this “we” you’re talking about, white man? (An old ‘Lone Ranger & Tonto’ joke). Taking credit for Subban are you Therrien? Did “we” make a lot of progress inventing the internet too?

    I hate this as much as I hated Therrien 1.0 and Mario Trembley as coach: that is, utterly and immediately.

    • slyCH says:

      WE being the coaching staff as a whole.

    • The Jackal says:

      Jesus, what are you on about?
      They did make a lot of progress, both PK and the coaching staff.
      And yeah, obviously they believe in his talent and in PK enough to give him the most TOI at even strength and on the PP.
      So what if he does not get PK time? Who says it’s necessary?
      You’re grasping at imaginary straws.

      ______________________
      Hockey sine stercore tauri.

      • VancouverHab says:

        No, it’s not Jesus (though I appreciate the compliment and agree that Jesus will be a Hab fan): it’s Vancouver Hab.

        And I’m giving lots of evidence and arguments, big fella: you don’t read them because you are a sunny optimist–and I admire and like you for it.

        It’s just that you’re wrong (it’s not pessimism if the facts support it: it’s then called ‘truth’ ;–)

        • Ozmodiar says:

          hmmm…..

          only the true Messiah denies His divinity…

        • The Jackal says:

          Ah yes, evidence, which there is none.
          All you point to are media blurbs that are abstracted from their context. You think because you saw a clip of 24CH and then some post-game remarks that what you claim must be true.
          Well, the opposite is the case, thankfully enough.

          PK is not being stifled or put down, you really think he had his best season in spite of MT? That they don’t work together to get the most out of him? Because if that were not the case, MT would have been fired already. Those two, along with the team, work together to improve their game.
          Just because he is not used in certain situations, you think that he is being shafted?

          No, you got it all wrong. You and Brian Wilde.

          ______________________
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          • VancouverHab says:

            Hey, no fair. I have openly refrained from using the blue-collar francophone dislike of Subban’s cultural flamboyance, & I didn’t use it in my post.

            And you still haven’t given me reply to my request for what you assert to be mitigating context for Therrien’s insane (and entirely bigoted and self-aggrandising) threat that he is not going to rest until he has made Subban “a better person.”

            And for “better person” you can read “less black and more blue-collar-francophone-old-school-NHL.”

            Unless you have evidence to the contrary of this prima facie self-evident interpretation…..

          • slyCH says:

            “less black and more blue-collar-francophone-old-school-NHL.”

            That’s just crazy talk right there. It insults just about every race and culture.

    • mount royal says:

      So far Parros has brought nothing. Clearly he`s too big and it is also clear to everyone now that MT is biased in favour of Americans.

    • Timo says:

      Has Therrien even been here for 18 months? (the second time around)

    • Cal says:

      Inferring a lot from such a small quote.
      What would you say if MT came out with:
      How much wood could a wood chuck chuck,
      if a wood chuck could chuck wood?
      Would you accuse him of clear cut logging?

  43. Bill says:

    VancouverHab: the bible would tell the thoroughbred that it is hard to kick against the pricks.

    Subban has to conform to the game plan as long as Therrien is coach. Which will be another year.

    I can’t see the Habs letting go of Subban in favour of Therrien. Bergevin isn’t stupid. He knows that Therrien has a shelf life.

    • VancouverHab says:

      Hey! Well noted of the reference, big guy!

      Yep: Subban is finding it very hard to kick against this particular set of pricks.

      I am warmed by your optimism. But it isn’t (in my view) that Bergevin is stupid: it’s that he hired Therrien for reasons other than coaching pedigree, and those reasons are more than enough to cause him to be complicit in driving Subban away.

      And this is not wild speculation: we have firm physical evidence of exactly this.

      Under Molson ownership a rookie GM was appointed who hired a blue-collar and less-than-stellar coach, who quickly clashed with the flamboyance of a superstar player: the owner & GM let the coach be the idiot he was and the result was that Patrick Roy was traded and we suffered for decades.

      Annoying though I know this to be, I doggedly repeat what I said Day One: this will end (and is indeed now ending) badly for us.

      • The Jackal says:

        OK prescient prophet of HIO, we all await the rapture, which will occur when PK leaves town.

        Oh wait, the rapture never happened. Could it be you’re wrong about MT and PK? Yes indeed.

        ______________________
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        • VancouverHab says:

          My guess? Two year contract this time, then outta here. Unless in the two years Therrien reaches Cunnyworth-levels of NHL ineptitude (unlikely, because we have a better team now than then).

          Otherwise MT stays & Subban goes.

  44. I am absolutely loving the results of the poll, easy question to answer and the results are not surprising. There are a lot of smart fans here. :)

    Emelin? Oh my!

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  45. Bill says:

    Really curious about how the D will look next year. Obviously Gorges, Emelin, and Subban will be back. Wondering about Markov and Diaz.

    I am certain that Tinordi and Beaulieu will be on the team next year.

    • slyCH says:

      I think Markov deserves his spot for another two years at the least.

      • SmartDog says:

        Markov would have to take a discount to stay. I don’t see that happening. It SHOULD happen… he’s played so few games the last couple of years and loves being a Hab so I think it would be easy for him to justify it to himself. But I’m sure his agent has other ideas.

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        • slyCH says:

          We’ll see. I have the same point of view as you do. Remember Markov took a discount price before becoming a free agent, then all hell broke loose health wise for the man. It’s not beyond reality he would do the same this time around.

        • Ozmodiar says:

          Markov won’t, and shouldn’t have to, take a discount to stay.

          He’s worth every penny. Look at the TOI, the points, the leadership, the comparable contracts, etc…

          There’s no way MB sits across from him at a bargaining table and tells him he’s worth less than he’s being paid right now. Dang, should I even mention the Briere and DD contracts??

    • doc359 says:

      I would love to see Markovback being paid fairly cheaply (is $4 mill abusrdly low?) and then have Beaulieu, Tinordi, and Pateryn all competeing for a spot.

    • Stevie.Ray says:

      I can see both Markov and Diaz back, and then have an overly deep D-core again.

    • rhino514 says:

      Tinordi seems to have slid a rung on the ladder; Beaulieu seems like he is about to pass him. Also, what about Pateryn? He´s big and is also putting up some great numbers in Hamilton.
      I think we´ve conveniently forgotten that defencemen can take a while to adapt to the big leagues. It may be a stretch to have 2 rookies on regular pairings next year; I hope it happens, but both kids have lacked confidence so far.

  46. Bill says:

    Tofinohab: five one-goal losses keep the stats respectable. That’s how. The Habs have actually been extremely competitive, thanks mostly to stellar goaltending and the production of a few players.

  47. habcertain says:

    after reading yesterday’s posts, I thought we would have had Therrien fired by now. come on guys/gals, lets get our backs into this!

  48. Dunboyne Mike says:

    No time to scratch, but been skimming.
    Still PK and MT….

    Commandant, thanks for the link to the Emery article:

    http://tinyurl.com/q52ctvr

    Worth the read if that episode concerned you.

    Hobie, you never acknowledged my apology!
    Fransakois, I hope I don’t owe you one.
    Jrhabs! “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for”! Brilliant!

    Everyone else, have a nice afternoon.

  49. mdp2011 says:

    John Lu ‏@JohnLuTSNMtl 14m
    #Habs Therrien on Subban: “We work really closely with him. We believe in his talent… in (18 mths) we made a lot of progress.” 1/2

    2/2 #Habs Therrien on Subban: “There’s a level that we want to bring in his game. He knows and he wants to reach the same challenge as us.”

  50. tofinohab says:

    can someone please explain to me how we can be 15th in scoring(not bad),3rd in power play %, 4th in GAA, and 8th in penalty kill %,but we are only 1 game over 500.

  51. Steeltown Hab says:

    Can Pateryn get a game in lol? Like just one, give Bouillon a rest for a night and see how Pateryn can do. Having a hell of a yr with Hamilton and is a RH shot.

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    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin – @J_Perez22

  52. neumann103 says:

    So after Gallagher gave Therrien a creampie to th face, Prust gave him a lovely Pearl necklace and Parros brought up the rear with a Dirty Sanchez

    “Et le but!”

  53. Jradicus says:

    Honestly, DD isn’ the only Hab that should be placed on the back burner for me. Guys like Moen, Bourque serve no purpose what so ever and have little to no impact on a given night. The lack of heart and deflation they bring to this team is like a cancer spreading throughout the room.
    Here’s what I’d like to see :)

    Gallagher – Galchenyuk – Pacioretty
    Bournival – Plekanec – Gionta
    Briere – Eller – Prust
    Parros – White – Bag of hockey sticks in the corner of the ice

    Markov – Emelin
    Gorges – Subban
    Bouillion – Diaz

    • Steeltown Hab says:

      No issues with Bourque whatsoever this year, and Moen looks way better than last year.

      Only guys I have issues with aside from DD is Briere who i’m willing to give another shot to, Bouillon (getting old) and maybe Diaz but he doesn’t control the amount he’s used.

      ———————————

      Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin – @J_Perez22

  54. Steeltown Hab says:

    These lines are a nice upgrade from what we’ve had going before.

    Eller between Bourque and Leblanc is a solid 3rd line. Wouldn’t of minded to see Pacioretty with Eller Leblanc, and Bourque with the kids for an even 3 line attack but seeing Galchenyuk with the 2 best wingers on the team will be a treat.
    ———————————

    Lars, PK, Galchenyuk, Gallagher, Emelin – @J_Perez22

  55. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Be interesting to see how that fourth line fares against the St. Louis Linebackers…

  56. Ian Cobb says:

    I will tell Therrien that he is as much responsible for the way our team is playing as any of the players are.
    He has been out coached most games and does not use players in the best situation possible in making them more successful.

    And I tell you this, if PK does not get anymore respect from the head coach than he is getting now. He will have to move on.
    If he is not used on the penalty kill and in crucial situations where he can excel his talent, he will not resign here for sure.

    It is now time to take measure of Therrien, old cracks are starting to reappear behind the bench!

  57. HabsFanInTampa says:

    “Daniel Brière skated Monday for the first time since suffering a concussion on Oct. 19 against the Nashville Predators, but no timetable has been set for his return to the lineup.” No need to rush Briere back into the lineup. I think we can do just as fine or better without him.

  58. DipsyDoodler says:

    George Parros should probably retire for his own sake.

    I don’t actually care that much. Sure, by all accounts he is a nice guy, but he earned a living desecrating the game I love. He can barely skate and has scored an average of 2.5 goals per season. And he seems to enjoy punching people in the face.

    But now he’s risking his health.

    Returning from a concussion, plus being in his mid-thirties, means his reflexes are probably slower. He’s going to take on young fighters and probably get hurt often, as happened against Bordeleau on Saturday.

    He’ll probably sit some games but as soon as Toronto, Boston and Ottawa reappear on our schedule he’ll be dressed and asked to fight. Yes, he’ll win some but probably lose more.

  59. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    I was going to post something about getting Ehrhoff from the Sabres….he’s struggled a bit, but still a good dman, I think, and 4 million isn’t that bad.

    Then I realized it’s 4 million for the next decade….nevermind :)

  60. Luke says:

    Oh NO!

    MT said Subban was a thoroughbred… must be trouble brewing.

  61. CH Marshall says:

    “Monday was Michel Therrien’s 50th birthday and Brendan Gallagher celebrated the occasion by giving the coach a cream pie to the face.”

    And I bet he was smiling the whole time LMFAO

  62. Mattyleg says:

    Hey!
    I’m curious as to how 163 people who visit this site (presumably Habs fans) could say that the Halak trade hasn’t worked out well for the Habs. (see poll, above right)

    …then again, maybe it’s fans of other teams in the East who would have preferred to leave Eller in St. Louis and for us to have kept Halak…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

    • shiram says:

      It’s Ian Schultz man, he did not work out so that trade is a bust for the Habs.

    • Cal says:

      Always vote against what you think. Skews their data and puts the statisticians on edge.
      So, of course the Halak trade was a bad trade.

    • jimmy shaker says:

      I would’ve been curious to see what Price would’ve captured via trade……I wanted Jaro to stay, but I think Eller is a very good player who is only going to continue to get better. I was waiting for a long time for Price to reach all these heights and potentials etc. etc. I’m happy for Jaro, happy for Carey and happy for Larry. I’m hoping for a 1-0 overtime win for carey and the habs tomorrow night!

      Shaker out!

    • slyCH says:

      It’s 165 now. People don’t like it when you tell them what to do. Remember? The Halak push has begone thanks to you bully…

  63. shiram says:

    So they called up St-Pierre and he’s going to sit? That’s annoying, I’d have plunked him down in DD’s spot and see what he gave the team.

  64. jimmy shaker says:

    With a healthy lineup who sits?

    Gally/chucky/patch
    briere (give him another shot)/Pleks/Gio
    Prust/Eller/Bourque
    Bournival/white/moen

    DD and Parros are the odd men out, as much as bournival doesn’t deserve to be on the 4th line

    Marky/Emelin
    Subban/Gorges
    Bouillon/Diaz

    As much as I like Murray, I think he’s actually slower than Gill, and I can’t see MT sitting Diaz or Bouillon who was his captain in junior and really likes Frankie.

    So I’ve got dd, parros and murray sitting

    Shaker out!

  65. Mattyleg says:

    “Emelin skates with Habs wearing regular practice jersey”

    …rather than that adorable oversized ‘sleepy teddy-bear’ t-shirt he’d been wearing.

    It’s infuriating that the draconian management has cracked down so much on individual expression that everyone must wear the exact same uniform now!!

    Totalitarianism is alive and well at the Bell!!

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  66. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    That Desharnais-Desharnais-Parros line terrifies me, unless that’s the press box line.

  67. Cal says:

    Can’t wait for the Tank and Crank show! :)

  68. aHabGrowsInBrooklyn says:

    Fifteenth and ecstatic. Love Emelin!

  69. mdp2011 says:

    I am sure glad it wasn’t PK who pied MT in the face.

    • Mattyleg says:

      Apparently PK got him a card reading: “To A Loving Coach”
      The inscription inside reads:

      Athough you’re sometimes hard on me,
      and focus on my faults,
      and though your praise of other guys
      approaches me, then halts,

      I know you want to help me out,
      and give that extra shove,
      and all your gruff reproaches are true
      symbols of your love.

      Pretty touching!

      —Hope Springs Eternal—

  70. Timo says:

    As per Renaud Lavoie

    1. Moen hopes to be playing on Thursday vs Sens
    2. Olezs is on waivers
    3. Briere skated this AM

  71. shiram says:

    Anyone have the lines with Chucky at center?
    Interested to see how they worked it out.

    Also awesome to hear Emelin is nearing a return.

    And for those that like crazy hockey, Trevor Gillis just got released from his team after only 3 games and 54PIM.
    http://www.suomikiekko.com/2013/11/hifkn-mitta-tayttyi-kohupelaaja-trevor-gilliesille-potkut/

  72. Habs_101 says:

    Celebrated by giving him a ‘cream pie to the face’…. somehow I really feel like that wasn’t the best choice of words for the phrase hahahaha

    In all serious though, I am excited about our team… we have a great core and now need to insulate them… I like our core group a lot;
    LW – Patch, Prust
    RW – Gallagher
    C – Galch, Eller
    D – Subban, Emelin, Gorges
    G – Price

    Outside of this I think ALL players and prospects are available if its for the right player… we need to get bigger and better scoring wings and a one big mean mobile defenseman, all tough tasks to order but I think over the course of the season some of these issues will be addressed, and Im excited for when they are!

    GO HABS GO!

    • Timo says:

      LOL, no kidding…

    • VancouverHab says:

      Dude: leaving Pleks off your “core” group is seriously messed up.

      • Habs_101 says:

        I just kept flip flopping with him… dont get me wrong, he is our most dependable forward, and still our best two way guy BY FAR… the only reason I left him off is because he could be very useful in a trade…

        I imagine Philly would have to VERY carefully consider something along the lines of Plekanec + Fucale + (parts) FOR Simmonds + Coburn + (parts)… certainly an interesting package if you ask me…

        Patch – Galch – Gally
        Simmonds – Eller – Gionta
        Bournival – Briere – Bourque

        Markov – Subban
        Emelin – Coburn

        This looks like a pretty deep top 9 and top 4 to me …

        GO HABS GO!

        • VancouverHab says:

          Fair enough, but Eller isn’t Pleks yet. You trade him only if you have given up hope that we’ll make a Cup run in the next two or three years.

          That said, with Therrien we don’t have any hope of a Cup run, so….

        • jamman says:

          I agree. Hopefully he continues his production up until the deadline so we can trade him for a relatively high pick. Pleks is a good player but I feel when we play tough teams he’s non existent

        • bwoar says:

          Holy crap hell no way is that gonna be a good trade.

          “thoroughbred”

      • JM says:

        101 – Don’t ever become a manager

    • desertman says:

      big scoring wingers and big mobile dmen are not easy to find… they most certainly have to be drafted. If we could somehow snag simmonds out of philli, that would just be brilliant…

      • Fransaskois says:

        Have you watched many of Simmonds’ games? He’s got a very low hockey IQ and is quite inconsistent, not to mention the fact that he’d cost an arm and a leg to acquire. He’s incredibly overrated.

        • desertman says:

          completely disagree. Hes not a crosby-esque playmaker but the guy is not an idiot. He plays a hard-nose north south game and gets to the net ALL the time. Every player whose not top 10 in league scoring has some sort of inconsistency to their game.

          Even when he isn’t scoring hes still useful, aka backchecks really heard, is super tough, can fight, and can spark his team mates. (Things our Habs could use more of)

          Hes an incredibly useful player, especially with the make of our current team.

        • bwoar says:

          VERY overrated.

          “thoroughbred”

        • kalevine says:

          he was a Habs killer in several games last year, a one man wrecking crew, but I guess that’s hardly a measuring stick is it?

          • bwoar says:

            There’s no shortage of Habs Killers. Some of them even play for the Habs!

            “thoroughbred”

  73. Habsfan39 says:

    FIRST!

    -Donovan

  74. VancouverHab says:

    Small issue, but Emelin is not a NAG, he’s a RUG, no?

  75. Ozmodiar says:

    Murray also has NAG, apparently. :)

  76. VancouverHab says:

    But he’s a SWEG. Confused…..


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