Down to seventh

The Rangers smoked the Leafs and moved past the idle Canadiens into sixth place.

On the other hand, being idle means no injuries.

Pat Hickey reports from sick bay

• Marc Antoine Godin on the imminent return of Saku Koivu

• Stephen Brunt on Crosby and head shots; Don Cherry weighs inStu Hackel’s take

Canadiens 10th in SI Power Rankings

• The Hockey News on huge goaltenders


  1. Mr.Hazard says:

    Tres true.

  2. Mr.Hazard says:


  3. Mr.Hazard says:

    That is so sad, and disappointing.

  4. mjames says:

    I read Hickey’s column today on the Habs injuries. In it he infers that AK46 and Pouliot might be moved up to play in place of Camilleri and Max Pac. He stated that while they have played as top six forward they have been plagued by inconsistent play. Hickey’s comment annoyed me. He like others, including Habs management are attracted to “labelling”. It is my view that if you are going to label people be fair and consistent and don’t employ a double standard. As an example why is it that Gionta , Gomez, and cammileri all get a pass on their play. Why is it that only these two get labelled for their inconsistent play. 

    I know we can all point to deficiencies in AK46’s and Pouliot’s play but these guys have been far more consistent that the “smurfs”. I never see the press , except maybe the French press, comment on the inconsistent play of the “smurfs”. We are paying AK and Pouliot a combined $5mm while the other three take home $19mm.   


  5. Gormdog says:

    Well played, twocents, well played….

  6. twocents says:

    Sure but I’m assuming my own unrealistic assumption and saying that Yemelin can seamlessly reproduce what he’s doing there, here.

  7. Gormdog says:

    But can Emelin handle those minutes and the NA game? Risky to take #2, known commodity for the unknown, especially when rewatching takes of Spacek shutting down Ovie down…


    I would go for #3, unrealistic and all. A physical Ryan White.

  8. twocents says:

    OOOoooo… good one. Well structured.

    Can I chose all of the above? Of course this impression is totally based on impressions, having never seen Yemelin, or for that matter Ramo, play. Not to mention that your “circa training camp” makes things unrealistic in the last choice.

    If hard pressed, based on rep alone, I’d have to say Yemelin for Spacek. The other two scenarios involve role players and the impact would be far less than having a physical D, who could drop the gloves, and be useful offensively playing the 20 minutes Spacek currently is.  

  9. Gormdog says:

    Wasn’t so much about “improvement”, more of a style question (although the way Ramo is playing it’s hard to argue that he wouldnt, at the least, give Auld a run for his money).

  10. Gormdog says:

    Hey now, theres only room for one magician in this cyber town…

  11. joeybarrie says:

    I wouldn’t, none of those replacements is an improvement. Who is Alexei Emelin?

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  12. mike g says:

    Alex Picard *pow-pow* Andrei Markov


    Yannik Vebberre *bada-bing* Josh Georges


    Andreas Enqvist *yaba daba doo* Mike Cammalleri



    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  13. slapshot777 says:

    Ryan White called up to the Habs.


    To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high.

  14. joeybarrie says:

    Don’t get me wrong, I understand how it works, and it is tight in the East. However, if you look at WINS, which is how the Stanley Cup is decided we sit tied for 5th and 1 win away from 3rd. Not too bad for this team considering the individual players we have and the injuries to Markov and now Gorges (the injuries from Tue don’t YET count)

    Coming into this season we had a few underperformers, and a few young players to still develop. We had aging Vets on their last legs, and some good consistent key players. We were always going to struggle to be in the top on the league, but were capable with a full team.

    Going forward, hoping our players stay healthy, cause we have had some bad luck in the last 3 years…

    Koivu missed 17 games

    Tanguay missed 32 games

    Lang missed 32 games

    Cammi missed 17 games

    Gionta missed 21 games

    Markov missed 41 games, and then 40 games so far. 116 total

    AK missed 23 games

    Gorges missed 10 games so far this season. 45 total

    Now these are all KEY players playing top line minutes. I don’t think any other team has had 305 man games lost out of 3 seasons for it’s top players, and that number will go up without Cammi again. I know Crosby hasnt missed 112 games in 3 seasons, so when we talk about injuries, we aren’t talking about missing Moen, or Lapierre (not that its good to have any player out).

    In the end, what i am trying to say is this. People go and bash BG, PG, JM, and anyone else who is in a position of authority in the Habs management. But in the last 3-4 years this team has moved up considerably in potential and has continued to do so with some bad luck. We can absolutely put together a top 5 team next season, we just need to work on keeping our key guys healthy for the most part. I think we will see good opportunities to win the Cup in the next 5 years, if we shake this bad luck we seem to have.

    In the beginning of the season there were people who said we wouldn’t make the playoffs… Now we are sitting safely (FOR NOW) in a playoff spot and are 3 points out of 3rd place. Without our best player, and lately without our most consistent defensive asset. WORST PART is people are saying that we are currently looking at the REAL Montreal Canadiens suffering in mediocracy. YEAH mediocre without our best players. Now it doesnt change anything because we wont get them back, and cannot really replace them. However, you have to admit PG has put together a good competitive team with a good coach and we have some real possibilities coming in the near future. With a Salary Cap and without tanking for 5 years, you have to say that it’s a job well done, and I for one am happy with my team.

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  15. Everlasting1 says:

    St.Louis 6th my a$$..when it comes to lengthy injuries to top players they gotta be #1.


    “We don’t see things as they are, but as we are.” – Anais Nin

    Don’t pollute the water.

  16. mike g says:

    No doubt he knows his stuff…

    But he’s annoying. Bottom line is, people simply can’t stand him.

    If Bob Mckenzie was annoying, I wouldn’t appreciate and like him as much. For as knowledeable as he is, I wouldn’t be able to listen to him as much as I do.

    And that’s Pierre’s problem. He often shoots himself in the foot simply by attempting to satisfy every fanbase.

    And if he was so hockey smart, why isn’t he working for an NHL team?

    He’s a guy who preaches about the will to win and just how special and incredible it is to win the Cup. He describes all the tools each player has and what it takes to win, and how each and every player will help a given team.

    So, WHY THE HECK HASN’T AN NHL TEAM HIRED HIM to use his incredible hockey knowledge to better their team, win a Cup, win trades, etc…?

    Why is everyone passing up on this guy? Theres a rookie GM sitting in MIN who got the job over Pierre. How? Why wouldn’t you want this “guru” on your side?

    My theory is that he’s not liked in the hockey community. He’s overly positive about certain players, teams and situations, but he’s also overly critical and negative about others. Also, he looks like and often sounds like a giant goofball.

    People get annoyed of that….


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

    I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  17. JF says:

    I certainly don’t hate Toronto the way some do.  I hate the Bruins, and last year’s playoffs made me hate the Penguins.  But the team I really want us to be able to beat is the Flyers.  I don’t hate them; hating them would IMO just be envy because they’re such a well-balanced team, but being able to beat them consistently would put us up there among the elite teams.  Even when healthy, we’re a step away from that.

  18. Gormdog says:

    If you could make one Hab DISSAPEAR, and have another player magically appear in his place for this season and this season only, which option would you take?


    Alex Auld  *poof* Kari Rammo


    Jaro Spacek  *ta-dah* Alexei Emelin


    Tom Pyatt  *alakazam*  Ryan White circa training camp



  19. Storm Man says:

    So let’s see it is Thursday and what can we talk about today?

    The Leafs lose 7-0 who cares….. Next.

    Maguire is a annoying douche….. Boooo Hooooo don’t watch him I don’t.

    Gustausson has less upside and someone’s sole of his shoe has more. Sell the shoe on ebay.

    Lidstrom is a -3…. OMG just think if he was playing for the Habs some on here would want to trade him.

    Tony Roma’s has a new rib called the Pacioretty with Wiz hot shot sauce.

    I guess the bottom line no Habs on tonight. Yawn.


    “I have never failed at anything in my life so far… TripleX 12/23/2010 16:34pm”

  20. joshua94k says:

    The reason why The Toronto Maple Leafs are a very bad team and show no hope for the future is that their environment allows them. Their fans do not show passion to their team as Montreal fans so. The Toronto media do not take the team to task as hard as Montreal’s media does.

    Toronto’s media overly hypes and praises the Leafs to the extent of almost brainwashing the gullible public. Whether it is TSN or CBC, they start every season saying the Leafs have a team to watchout for. When they start to lose, they say the Leafs played hard but were unlucky, they are a young team etc. This has been going on for several years.

    Montrealer’s will never allow for a poor hockey team. If the team doesn’t preform or show no signs for hope, fans will stop showing up for games and supporting the team. During the late 1990s and earlier parts of the millenium, the Bell Centre wasn’t selling out every game. The fans and media in Montreal showed their displeasure. If the team isn’t winning the coach or GM gets replaced. Players get replaced. In 2009, Bob Gainey totally transformed the team and they went to the conference finals. In Montreal a Ron Wilson or Brian Burke cannot last for how long they have.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  21. j2w4habs25 says:

    If the Habs were having there kinda season – wouldnt you think there would be more than just booing the Habs at the Bell Centre, i mean come on its only Calgary – if that team was playing for Montreal like that, Montreal would boo and throw about anything at them and swear and throw them to the wolves lol…. what kinda fans are we now?? I guess they are just fans that want their team to win lol… and tired of loosing.


    Carey Price #31

  22. Hobie Hansen says:

    Many people, especially on this site don’t like Pierre. People in Quebec and pretty much all of Canada claim to know their hockey inside out. So when you get a guy like Pierre acting a little over cocky, it bothers people.

    I don’t mind him because he knows the game, better than 98% of people on TV the last 25 years. He can get a bit annoying or over the top. However, I like learning new things about the game or the players playing it, so I give him a pass. It’s what happens on the ice that counts.

  23. shiram says:

    Maybe the cold will numb the pain?

  24. Mattyleg says:

    To be completely honest with you, I don’t get NEARLY as excited about Leafs-Habs games as I used to. We play each other to much now for any game to really make any kind of impact. That, and they suck so terribly that there are rarely stakes involved in the games.

    TO always seems to raise their game a hundredfold to play us, while we don’t care.

    I’m much more invested in Boston-Montreal, and have been for years. We never play Toronto in the playoffs because they never get there. If we went head-to-head against them in the post-season, THAT’S where rivalries come from. That’s why we’ve got such a hate on for Philly and Boston’s always so keen to get at us.

    Toronto? Meh.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  25. HardHabits says:

    You can’t get over that article either.

  26. Tremblant Habs Fan says:

    My problem with Mcguire is that he’s always quick to say:”I told you so” or “See, that’s what I said last week” and never admits when he’s wrong. MM never challenges him on his radio show, instead always giving him lob ball questions! And Pierre rarely gives props to the Habs, but that’s only because he didn’t get the GM job when it was given to BG.

  27. mike g says:

    Yea, that really sucks for him…

    Might he attempt an early return to the lineup in order to play in that game? Likely not, it’s simply not worth the risk of re-injuring it.

    But, if I bet you if he’s recovering very well and is about a week away from returning, he’ll prbably lace them up and play in it. All depends how the rehab goes. It’s such a special event and I’m sure it’s so fun to be a part of.

    Would love to see him play….


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  28. avatar_58 says:

    Anyone else pissed Cammy will miss the heritage classic? I wanted to see him light up his former team on a grand stage. Instead we have a good chance of losing horribly without another top 6. Awesome

  29. MathMan says:

    Montreal remains 6th in standing points per game, which compensates for games in hand. It has an 82-game pro-rated pace of 98 points — 10 points more than last year’s team, and 9 more than 9th-place Carolina’s. They have more wins than Washington (but not enough loser points) and are within striking distance of both 5th place and the division crown.

    Something to think about amidst the prevailing narrative that the Habs are struggling to remain in the race and are life-and-death to make the playoffs…

  30. Mark C says:

    Seeing how some people make a big deal about O’Byrne’s +13 or whatever, this must mean: O’Byrne > Lidstrom. A differance of 16 in rating can’t be wrong, can it?

  31. notbigbird says:

    Two thoughts: you may not like either.

    (1) McGuire says some pretty outlandish things, but since I don’t listen to him on the radio or broadcasting other teams, it doesn’t bother me much. For me, he is the best on-the-fly analyst during a game. He analyzes and breaks down a play almost instantly. For that reason I like him.

    (2) All of the Toronto bashing gets tiring. I think there’s a certain amount of city envy going on. You might think about poking fun at them because not too long ago, they were a much better team than the Habs, and we’re not exactly a premier team yet either. That being said, due to the historical rivalry, there’s probably no other team, I’d rather put a beating on. On second thought, there’s Philthy to consider.


  32. HabsFanInTampa says:

    MAB got hurt last night playing for the Junior Bolts and his return to the NHL has been pushed back.

  33. avatar_58 says:

    Frequently Asinine Quotes?

  34. notbigbird says:

    But that doesn’t mean we’re exactly lucky. We’ve lost two very important guys for the season. Quality of the players injured is pretty important. Crosby is a tad more significant that Halpern, for example.

  35. Mattyleg says:

    You’re right, we should’ve got rid of those guys after the injuries. Then they’d REALLY know they weren’t welcome!


    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  36. Rugger says:

    Of course he does!  Carey is already excellent, how much up side is there left?  The monster absolutely sucks, there is so much up side it approaches infinity!

  37. mike g says:

    Alright, time for a monster post…

    Let’s start off with a bang:


    Do I need to really explain more?


    Ok, this one always needs more explaining. Why do I feel that way about them? How can I possibly love that team? Well it’s simple; because they simply suck so much (which is always a huge plus for us) and see absolutely no need in doing anything about it. And you have to respect and support a business and anyone who stands by their beleafs and standars like that. I haven’t in my live seen a business who supports their philosophy so much for so long, and is still able to make the most money out of all it’s competiton. It’s such a wonderful and safe business model. No matter how the company performs, good, bad or simply being run to the ground, they’ll make more than everyone else. Immagine going to the store and buying a crappy/broken computer for 4 times the price that it was sold at 6 years ago. Outdated technology and a product that you know you simply won’t be nearly satisfied enough to justify even a quarter of the price you paid to buy it.

    So I ask you this: can you really blame them for being that bad?

    I simply can’t. As an owner and company, your job is to ensure that you’re supplying your market and the public with the best product available in order to maximize the company’s value and overall revenue. But, if your product is terrible, and has been for a long time, and your market still buys it more than any other competitons product, I ask you guys why should they as a company change their model?

    Sometimes when you’ve got something good, don’t change it. If your market is willing to pay the highest price out there for crap, where is the pressure to improve the product?

    There simply isn’t any. And there’s the reason why the Toronto Maple Leafs will be a very bad hockey team for a long time.

    Agree? Discuss…




    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  38. Rudy says:

    So nice to read a French reporter do a positive and respectful article on Saku. Saturday night will be amazing. I only hope that I get the CBC feed down here and will get to see the anthems and stuff.

    “Start the season with a clean equipment bag and a freah bucket of febreze!”-CharlieHodgeFan

  39. fbkj says:

    id explain the origin but it would bore the pants off of you

  40. twocents says:

    Nice shooting, John.

    That’s easier than pronouncing fbkj.

  41. twocents says:

    Just pulling your leg, Ian.

  42. Ian Cobb says:

    Sorry Eric ,I forgot the R. Sharp

  43. HabFanSince72 says:

    We’ve been  lucky with injuries so far. However you can’t just look at man-games lost. Markov and Gorges is a huge blow, and the man-games lost only counts the games played so far.

    ANother aspect of bad luck is that we traded O’Byrne one game before losing Marky.

    We traded Lappy 3-4 games before losing Halpern and Cammy.




  44. fbkj says:

    meh, call me johnny

  45. HabFanSince72 says:

    HA HA.

    We should set up a Pierre Maguire FAQ.

    Maybe Habs Inside/Out could host it?

  46. twocents says:

    Did you intend that for my wife… or yours?

    It’s the guy with the funny acronym whose really SHARP this morning.

  47. mike g says:

    Yea, he did say that…

    And whats funny, is that the night before when we were in BUF and being televised by TSN, he was praising and bragging how Carey Price has become one of the elite goalies in the league at a very young age after going through so much.

    He was saying stuff like how CP showed immense character, patience, how he’s so calm in pressure situations, how he makes tough saves look easy, etc….He was saying that he’s transformed himself into a very solid #1 goalie.

    And then, because it’s a Leafs game on TSN and he knows most of the viewers watching are Leaf fans, he says something dumb like that just to please the audience.

    He tried to make Hab fans happy by complementing CP, and then a night later tries to do the same thing with the Leafs. He shoots himself in the foot, and anyone who remembers what he says knows he does it so often.

    Just a loudmouth douche who will say anything to try score a few points with his audience.

    Reminds me of the kid who always sucked-up to the teacher and had no friends…


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  48. TheMostCupsPeriod says:

    I wish I had a clip, it was on the Bill Watters show after the Loafs started out 4-0. I often use this quip to bug my Loaf loving friends… Some of them believed it, for a brief while!!

  49. twocents says:

    I knew you could do it, thanks. I looked myself but couldn’t find anything. 

    My sense for the first part of the season was that we were doing really well on that front despite Markov. I suspect we’ll move up a few spots over the next month now. This team is really going to be tested.

  50. avatar_58 says:

    I would very much like a clip of this

  51. mike g says:

    I’ve bashed him many times, but some people still love him…

    All he does all day long is talk on radio shows and pick on the same players, and blow the horns of others. He mostly says positive things on each radio show that he’s on concerning their home team. Although he’s very cheap with the positive comments when it comes to the Habs.

    He marvels the rebuild and growth that the Leafs are going through, and always makes positive comments about them. He rarely speaks in a critical manner about them. Yet, they’ve been one of the worst franchises over the past 6 years. And I don’t even wanna go into details regarding their future, it’s simply not even worth my time.

    He’s a crowd pleaser. “I love him, I had lunch with him and his landscaper, he has a great family, University of Nobody Cares, etc…”

    Those are the same guidelines he uses every single day and in each interview to describe every single player.

    I’m sick of it, and have been for years. He yells and screams stupidity often, and he’s very annoying and creepy looking.

    Does he know his stuff?, sure he knows hockey. But IMO, his biggest problem is that he doesn’t know how to deliver his message to an audience without sounding or looking like an annoying douche.

    Most of the time, I try to avoid listening to him…


    “These head movies make my eyes rain” -Simple Jack

     I got AK at under 64.5 pts, with Triple X and Tom Nickle.

  52. SeriousFan09 says:

    Really? Like he didn’t make himself enough of a fool when he compared the Big Three to the Leafs Defence.

    Talk about selling your broadcast integrity for a nickle.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  53. twocents says:

    In the “what does it mean” file: Nick Lidstrom is a -3, the worst for wing defensemen.

  54. Ian Cobb says:

    Your pretty shape this morning, Eric.

  55. Mr.Hazard says:

    Are you serious? He said that? The sole of my shoe has more upside than Gustavsson.

  56. The Cat says:

    I found a link on the CBC, therefore no one can make the typical ‘french buffoon’ attack on the reporter.

    Here is glance at the most injury-plagued teams this season as well as the six Canadian teams.

    1. N.Y. Islanders – 265

    2. New Jersey – 248

    3. Colorado – 227

    4. Minnesota – 214

    5. Calgary – 207

    6. St. Louis – 153

    7. Nashville – 150

    8. Vancouver – 131

    9. Anaheim – 128

    10. Detroit – 126

    19. Toronto – 97

    20. Edmonton – 90

    26. Ottawa – 58

    27. Montreal – 56



    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  57. Mr.Hazard says:

    I am so sad I will be missing the “return-of-Captain-K” game… I won’t even be able to WATCH it…

  58. Harditya_CareyPrice says:

    If he actually said that then I’ve lost all respect for him. (If there was any before)

    What a goof.

  59. twocents says:

    Nice shooting, Tex.

  60. TheMostCupsPeriod says:

    Since we are in Loafs/Macguire bashing mode, I live in the GTA and this is my favorite quote I heard from Pierre on a show with Loaf motif…


    “The Monster has more upside than Carey Price”

    Drink much???

  61. The Cat says:

    Well yeah they showed the stats…And please I want to know who said MAB was as good as the Wiz…Good God, Ive said it once and Ill say it again, Ive seen bantam AA Dmen play better D than him.

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  62. fbkj says:

    totally comparable

  63. twocents says:

    I heard on RDS that the police were waiting to arrest three Habs players when they’re plane arrived… I heard on RDS that Saku Koivu’s contract in the summer of 2010 was signed and in a desk drawer… I heard on RDS that MAB is just as good as the Wiz and will certainly be playing in the NHL in no time…

    Sorry Cat, you gotta do better than that. Find some stats somewhere.

  64. matraque says:

    The Flames were booed last night!  What kind of fans are they?  No one should boo a team, they should be cheered.



    Canadien en 5!
    Never go Full Retard

  65. The Cat says:

    I saw on RDS that the habs were one of the teams that had the least injury troubles so far!

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  66. Cool Ice Price says:

    Hello Mr. Boone & Mr. Stubbs. You are doing a fine job with this site I see. I stumbled upon it a week ago and I must say that I am really impressed.

    This North East divsion is brutal to say the least. 5 points can separate 1st from 9th place. It certainly keeps every team on thier toes for sure. Teams can afford to take too many nights off if they want to go the the big dance.



    Habs Passion unites us all

  67. Julie H says:

    Welcome to the forum.

    I’ve noticed the point difference in recent years as well. I don’t know if it makes me wish there were one or two powerhouse teams that force the rest to scramble for whatever points they can acquire but it’s almost crazy looking at the standings sometimes. Playoff teams are separated by one, two points which in perspective is one or two games where they just fell asleep.

    ♪Your cares and troubles are gone. There’ll be no more from now on. From now on happy days are here again, the skies above are so clear again. So let’s sing a song of cheer again. Happy times, happy nights, happy days are here again♪

  68. StevieRay says:

    So much for the ” Monster “..may I suggest ..” Mouse ” Can’t say I get to interested in the Leafs except when they fall upon hard times …and they are upon hard times !!! quiet enjoyable since they regard themselves as the center of the hockey universe re,HNIC,TSN etc .
    I expect Wilson to be shown the door … he seems like a peculiar character …
    I did notice last nite that Komo was/ is teh worst Dman on the ice ..nuff said
    Will be great to see Sako back …

  69. HabFanSince72 says:

    We need another forward don’t we? Unless we go with 7 D.



    BTW: Why would anyone click  on “Don Cherry Weighs In” ?

  70. kempie says:

    I think they’re waiting to see if Halpern can go or not. That would likely affect who gets the call next.

  71. 24 Cups says:

    Unwanted, undrafted, undeterred – there are other routes to the NHL.

    Andreas Engqvist will make his NHL debut as an undrafted player.  The odds are stacked against him, but he can always gain motivation from looking at the players who did break through after not being drafted by an NHL team.

    Some examples are: Chris Kunitz, Rich Peverley, Martin St. Louis, Dan Boyle, Brian Rafalski, Jonas Hillier, Dustin Penner, Ville Leino, Mark Giordano, Dan Girardi and Niklas Backstrom.

    Speaking of the draft, there are more players in the NHL (10 games palyed this year) drafted by Montreal (31) than any other team.  The bad news is that only 7 of them are present day Habs.

    In other news, Damien Cox is leaving the Toronto Star to work full time at TSN.  He’s not everybody’s cup of tea but I always enjoyed reading his columns.  I imagine it’s not easy being a hockey reporter when you consider the dismal performance of the main attraction in town.  I wonder how many times the laffs made the playoffs during Cox’s tenure here in Toronto?

  72. Mike D says:

    Our very own Jeff Halpern was also an undrafted player.  Not quite the caliber of some of the players you listed, but worth mentioning.

    – Honestly yours

  73. JVF says:

    And let’s not forget Mr. Josh Gorges.

  74. twocents says:

    Hey Steve,

    How did you compile that list of Habs draftees with ten games, is there a handy site, and which team is second?

  75. The Cat says:

    Sean Avery was also undrafted, despite his antics, hes a fine player.


    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

  76. TommyB says:

    Those guys you named, the undrafted guys, are also among the hardest working players in the league.  And I can’t speak for the others, but Girardi is one kid who “gets it”.  He knows it was hard work that got him where he is, and he’ll continue to be that player for his entire career.  Also, back here at home, where Dan is from (and still resides in the off-season), he is quick to stand up and take part in any community fundraising activities for the less-fortunate.  Girardi is appreciative of being able to play in the NHL, he doesn’t take it for granted.  Someone took a chance on him, and he is paying that person back tenfold.  I wish he was wearing bleu-blanc-rouge, instead of the red-white-and blue shirts of Broadway.

  77. SeriousFan09 says:

    I think it’s Pacioretty they’re waiting on, with latest reports of no fracture but just bruising on his ribs he wants to see if he can go for the weekend so he’ll be attempting to skate this afternoon. Halpern seems ruled out though, Engqvist was the natural call-up to fill in for him.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  78. Mattyleg says:

    There’s no way Max will be in. I’ve cracked a rib before, and even rolling over in bed is agony.

    Even IF he can skate, it doesn’t mean that he’d be able to take a check.

    If he’s going to shy away from contact, putting him out would be a bad idea if we can call up someone like White.

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  79. SeriousFan09 says:

    Latest report is no cracked ribs though, bruised, that’s still incredibly painful but there’s no actual fracturing or breaks.


    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  80. 24 Cups says:

    Crosby, Cherry and Davidson all raise valid points.

    The main issue seems to be  a fear of diminishing physical play if hits to the head are banned.  I don’t have a problem with that if it helps clean up the game and minimizes the number of concussions.

    Could you imagine the fallout if Crosby had to retire in a few years due to concussion issues?

  81. jimmy shaker says:

    Auld tomorrow, with Price Saturday and Tues.  I think JM should do this, but for some reason I think he’s going to go with Carey in all 3.


  82. avatar_58 says:

    Might have something to do with Auld crapping the bed the last start

  83. fbkj says:

    you have to realize that the habs arent platooning their goalies jimmy

  84. stephen says:

    There’s a nice little interview with Saku up at RDS:

  85. HabsFanInTampa says:

    Much better interview with Captain Koivu on the “Jim Rome Is Burning” show right after he was let go by the Habs. I think you can see it on

  86. twocents says:

    Some posters, last night after I signed off, were discussing how they would love to see Muller take over behind the bench after Martin. I completely agree that I would love to see Kirk be the head coach of this team. However, most coaches have a very hard time making the transition from assistant to head coach directly with the same team. The relationship change with the players can be very hard to navigate.

    So, unfortunately it woulld likely be best if Muller gets his first head coaching job elsewhere and then returns, or at least has a stint as Bulldogs head coach before assuming the reins.

  87. 24 Cups says:

    Eric – Does Muller speak French?  I only ask because I have no idea.

  88. Ian Cobb says:

    I think your right Eric, The relationship changes from assistant to coach, and it takes an exceptional fellow to change rolls with the same group of players. I must say though, that the relationship between Kirk and Martin seems to be working out well.

  89. Corporate says:

    There has been debate in the last few years regarding the depth of the Montreal Canadiens. Some people are for, and some people are against. Valid arguments on both sides. Now is the time to see how good with players down the pipe. We can not replace a Cammy, even though he was not having his best year.

    Another injury that could potentially hurt us is Halpern. He was a guy that was good on faceoffs and was able to give us a goal once in a while. He was also sound defensively. I assume the recall of Enquvist is for the replacement of Hapern while he is injured.

    Now, I will sound pessimistic. If Jacques Martin is able to continue winning with this club, I would have to say he should get the Jack Adams.  It will be very difficult down the stretch and we will need our top guys to do what they are paid to do. 

    Gomez: yes he has a hot temper, always had, always will. He has started to play  a little better lately and his passes actually reach players now. 

    Gionta It has been an up and down player this year. I do not argue his grit and work ethic. but he must continue to do what he does best. Get in front of the net and put in loose pucks. 

    Pouliot: if he can play like with darche we should be fine. Unfortunately he seems to over think on teh ice when he plays with Gomez.

    Andrei Kostitsyn: Needless to say, see Pouliot for definition. 

  90. Jbird says:

    Sure, Rome does better interviews than anyone. I saw that as well –  but it was almost 2 years ago. 

  91. twocents says:

    I’m not sure, but having spent as much time in Montreal as he has, I suspect he’s picked up some and could just use a little extra brushing up to make himself acceptable.

    Come to think of it, I’ve heard him mutter a few words on RDS before.

    Maybe he could move into an office job for one season to give him a break from the roster and change the dynamics in anticipation of a promotion to head coach… is that a coronation here? 

  92. jimmy shaker says:

    I’ve heard him say “Merci” a lot.


  93. Say Ash says:

    No, I saw him on Antichambre a couple of months ago and he said everything in English. He looked like he understood all the French being spoken. Or he might have just been politely nodding to whatever Tremblay was spewing.

  94. Ian Cobb says:

    Muller speaks Kingston Ont. French.!

  95. HabFanSince72 says:

    Thsi will sound mean, but Muller doesn’t sound like the brightest guy – even by hockey player standards.


  96. Say Ash says:


    if you’re gonna criticize a guy’s intelligence, at least spell correctly

  97. joshua94k says:

    They should hire Muller to coach the team and hire a translator for the press conferences.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  98. Corporate says:

    Love the pic… Classic. 

  99. 24 Cups says:

    Eric – I lifted it from the Toronto Star.  It was in their print version but not online.  I also credited Markov and Lats even though they are both a game or two shy of ten.

    New Jersey is 2nd with 29 players.

  100. twocents says:

    Omitting the current season, not bad company to keep. ;o)

    Whose the top five if it’s handy?

  101. 24 Cups says:

    The paper is out in the bluebox but I’d have to go with the following: Vokoun, Koivu, Markov, Pleks and Price.  If Price is too young to consider, then you would look at Robidas/Beauchemin/Ribeiro.

    BTW, I think the list should have one more name.  I don’t remember Streit being on it, and that’s probably because he hasn’t played.  I bet the Habs wouldn’t mind a do-over on that move.

  102. twocents says:

    I meant the top five teams in this aspect, not players.

  103. Ian Cobb says:

    Hard work is what is missing in so many players that had natural talent and got ahead because of potential. But I know the kind of fella that I would walk into a dark alley with Tommy B.

    Character and perseverance is needed badly on every team.

  104. jimmy shaker says:

    100% understood…..but Carey cannot play every game my friend….let’s look at the big picture here.


  105. fbkj says:

    didnt say he had to either but having price go 6-8 straight starts is part of the plan

    considering auld started 2 games ago and didnt exactly hold down the fort, were gonna ride price for a while, which is completely normal

  106. jimmy shaker says:

    Just remember the 70+ game load Carey is on pace for…….which is not a good thing. 


  107. fbkj says:

    thats debatable not an absolute (it being a good or bad thing)

  108. Mark C says:

    It’s going to be fine, Auld will get his starts. 3 more games until the All-Star break, then a full week off. Returning from the All-Star break the Habs have 3 sets of back-to-back games, a few of these games vs. weak teams (NYI and NJD). Price can play the next 3 games, get some time off during the break and then use Auld vs. the weak teams in the back-to-backs. 

  109. jimmy shaker says:

    There are no weaker teams in the league anymore……The boys have just as hard a time with the Islanders as they do with philly or the wings.  Price will be busy during the allstar game as well so Auld should get the go on Friday to see him rebound from last start.  We’ve given Price mulligans during his tenure, give Auld a break too.


  110. jimmy shaker says:

    Check the stats my friend, no goalie in the last 30 yrs playing over 70 games in the reg season has ever won a cup.  The only exception is Brodeur.  Sure I would love Price to play everygame, but I know that if he does, our playoff dance will be a short one.  After 18 yrs, I think a cup is in order, not just a quick appearance at the dance.


  111. Mark C says:

    Yes Price will have to travel and play little during the All-Star week, but again Montreal plays tues. in Philly and not again until the next tues. in D.C., even with the All-Star junk, Price should be fully rested after a week off. Montreal is using a #1 and #2 system; there isn’t a #1B like last year. The number one guys gets the vast bulk of starts and is afforded luxuries, such as getting the next game following a bad start. Auld’s role is likely to get 60%-70% of his starts in back-to-back situations while playing the “weaker” team.


  112. jimmy shaker says:

    So Ottawa on Fri is a perfect fit for him!  And again, there are no weaker teams in the league anymore! Not for the boys anyways.


  113. Mark C says:

    It would be a fine time, however Price was great in the past few games so JM right ride the hot hand.

  114. jimmy shaker says:

    So that means he never plays again?


  115. fbkj says:

    no, but price is the number one goalie, hes the go to guy, auld is the backup, to be used accordingly

  116. jimmy shaker says:

    Yes, we all know Carey is the number 1 guy and auld is the backup…..this has never been an issue or a question.  Used accordingly is playing in the back to back games at the minimum and spelling price if we want another shot at the springtime dance.


  117. fbkj says:

    auld got his last start 2 games ago

    for him to get another start in the next back to back

    is platooning

  118. jimmy shaker says:

    I guess you’re not understanding me, and I’m not understanding you, so we’ll just leave it at that.


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