Beat Leafs Saturday, win Cup: history books


Jean Béliveau beats Terry Sawchuk in a 1960s game at the Montreal Forum. Leafs hoisted the Stanley Cup that decade. Honest, they did.
Gazette files

Hockey Inside/Out and Gazette columnist Dave Stubbs is filling in for Sports Illustrated’s Michael Farber with CJAD Radio-800 commentary weekday mornings at 7:55 a.m. ET, guesting with Abe Hefter.

On Friday, Stubbs and Hefter looked ahead to the Canadiens’ final regular-season game of 2010-11, a meeting against the Maple Leafs in Toronto. The Habs have played the Leafs three times on April 9 through the decades: 1959, 1960 and 1966. Montreal won all three, and went on to win three Stanley Cups. Must be a sign… right?

Stubbs and Hefter are here, with CJAD morning host Andrew Carter.


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  2. FastCentennial says:

    Well you never know what can happen no matter how good or bad your team is the playoffs is a whole new season, anyone has a chance to win the cup.

    Habsnation is still standing.

  3. 24 Cups says:

    Byran Murray jsut received a three year contract extension in Ottawa.

    Let’s have a quick review. The goalie and coaching merry-go-rounds, the spoiling of Heatley and Spezza, the trade with San Jose and the disastrous signing of Kovalev and Gonchar. Then out of the blue, a total rebuild mode when it’s way too late.

    This record deserves to be rewarded?

    Maybe it was last night’s win over the Habs that did the trick:-)

    • avatar_58 says:

      That’s why we can’t complain about Gainey too much

    • habsnyc says:

      It reads like a standard resume for the GM of a Canadian team. Reminds me of Toronto, Montreal, Calagary and Edmonton.

    • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

      I thought Melnyk looked/sounded/acted wasted when he was talking to Friedman last night. Maybe he has a “problem”, so his handlers bought the hockey team for him to play with while they ran the overall business……
      Sorry for being obnoxious, props for being generous,
      y’all down, we booze hounds, take two drinks and pass.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Are you serious? Or are you pulling our collective thing? I’m going to google Ottawa Sun, not that I don’t believe you but it’s almost unimaginable.

    • mrhabby says:

      the old boys network never ceases to amaze me..year in and year out.

      obviously murray has some pics of melynk doing something nasty.

    • Sportfan says:

      I have no problem with Murray but i have a problem with Clouston he is an awful Coach he drove away Heatley with just half a season who in there right mind would get ride of there best sniper because of that coach. Kovalev didnt play well under his system yes Kovi is a diff player but personally CLouston drives away any good scoring players.
      One of |Murrays biggest mistakes though was picking Redden over CHara i still hate the Ogre but id rather him in a Sens jersey

    • bwoar says:

      Best news of the day for the Habs. The gift that keeps giving! Next we’ll hear the JF Jr. is back with the Leafs as head scout.

      • Jeff says:

        The Sens don’t matter anyway. Murray has won nada just like Martin…wasn’t he a castoff of the Sens thru Fla?

        And you fools talk about Wilson? Haaaaaaaaaaaaa!

    • Jeff says:

      Does anyone really care about the Sens?

      The Habs are in the playoffs by the skin of their teeth, destined to meet a real contender in Boston.

      The diminutive Habs will be in for about 4 games & then play Golf with the Leafs.

      I will repeat a standard description of PRETENDER, any NHL team that clinches a playoff position in April is not a contender.

      The Leafs are moving up, your Habs are moving down, get used to it.

      So the Leafs missed the playoffs, big deal! 29 other teams will go home without a Cup too, Habs included.

      The Bruins, Philly Caps, Pens are salivating at a chance to manhandle the little ones rather than facing the Leafs who are clearly the better team at this point.

      I realize that some of you are delusional and cannot face facts but a few posters I respect, the rest of you need help.

      Habs are Pretenders and have been since 1986 !

      • _Habsoloutly_ says:

        Leafs SUCK Jeffy. Keep drinking that kool-aid. hahahahahhahahahha.

      • bwoar says:

        Why are the dumbest people in Leafs Nation always named ‘Jeff’? There are so many good Jeffs everywhere else. Hell, I know plenty of Leaf fans in Winnipeg. But not one of them is named Jeff. In fact when I asked them about it, every one of them said the same thing: “If he’s named ‘Jeff’ then just stay away. Even we can’t stand those clowns!”

      • dhenry1234 says:

        No one cares about the sens.

        Skin of their teeth? Incorrect, and even if you think so at least we’re IN the playoffs to begin with. Also, Montreal may not even end up facing Boston.

        This is the Playoffs. Anything can happen. An example is the habs run last year to the eastern conference finals.

        Is this a standard description? Says who? You? Okay then…..nice try? Also, it doesn’t matter what anyone thinks, it’s the playoffs. ANYTHING can happen.

        Leafs can’t go anywhere but up compared to their last season. If the leafs finished the season with 75 points you’d still be able to say “Well they’re moving up!” Habs moving down? Compared to last year’s season we’re a better team. That is also considering the loss of key players at key times of the season. (markov, Gorges)

        The thing i love about this is how the Habs COULD in fact win the cup. How do you know? You don’t, and I don’t. But the fact that there is a tiny chance that they can, is awsome compared to as a leafs fan you have 0 hope this year.

        How do you know what the bruins, etc are thinking in their locker rooms? And regardless of who wins the game tomorrow, the leafs still have a lot to prove if THEY’RE going to be considered anything even close to being a contender.

        I think that it is YOU that is delusional and refuses to face FACTS. You in fact need help.

        You seem to have forgotten a championship in 93.
        At least we have pictures of our championships that are in COLOUR

        You stink of mediocrity.

      • G-Man says:

        Wow- you mentally challenged?

    • AH says:

      I have absolutely no idea how him and his brother Terry have lasted in the NHL for soooo long. They both have won nothing in their NHL careers, yet they always seem to find work. I so don’t get it. And wasn’t Bryan the coach in Washington for the majority of their garbage years?

  4. habs365 says:

    myself I don’t knock other teams, a team is put together by management and if you don’t have smart management you won’t have a smart team. to have a chance to win a cup you gotta have two lines that can play .500 hockey for 82 games anything less you better have lots of luck unfortunately that’s gonna be the case for the Habs. not saying they can’t win the cup , but the luck of the irish had better be on their side. I’ve been a Montreal Canadien’s fan all my life 24 cups speaks for it’s self but we haven’t had a team that can even compare to those teams for a lot of years and like all the other Habs fans, I would like to see nothing better than winning the 25th cup….. Go Habs Go

  5. habsindepth says:

    What’s cool about the picture above is that .. look at the crowd! No body is wearing a Habs jersey! 🙂 Suits for everybody – Nice ties, hats. Oh how the times have changed!

    For those who are criticizing the “win against the Leafs and we will win the cup part” — hey! You never know! Good Karma = Beating the Laughs. That may carry in the post-season!

    Dont’ stop believing!

    “Patience is the art of hoping.” -Vauvenargues, Marquis De

    Web: – For the Fanatics
    Twitter: @habsindepth

  6. habsindepth says:

    From the number of comments on the post related to last night’s game on this site, one can tell, not many cared! LOL

    So we are off to Toronto. The Habs will want to put in an extra effort perhaps, if not for the momentum, just to get Martin his 600th victory of the season? That would be great to see that we get to the playoffs and beat the Laughs.

    Price off tomorrow? Who has any thoughts on that? Should the Habs be careful of injuries?

    I think, and hope, that the Habs will bring the same intensity they brought in the game against the Blackhawks. One shouldn’t expect the leafs to just sit down and die. They have had a really good final stretch of the season and it would be nice to finish on a high note.

    GO HABS GO!!!! Tag your tweets with #LeafsSUCK 🙂

    Game Recap for the Senators game is up on HiD: Please read and comment.
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    • joeybarrie says:

      I don’t think the PLAYERS actually think of Toronto as anything other than a Southern market team. Similar to Atlanta, Florida and Oklahoma City Barons….
      So its doubtful they will be trying harder. We hate Toronto cause there USED to be a rivalry there about 45 years ago, when the Leafs were considered a real NHL team. Today its simply the pet summer project of Toronto area teachers. Cause there is no way anyone thinks they are a serious team…

      There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

    • LA Loyalist says:

      At this point I would not play either of our two stars: Price or PK.

      After seeing Kopitar’s injury, which was a really innocuous play, I just wouldn’t take the chance? Anyway, what better insult to the Leafs to send out Hamilton Bulldogs to play them 🙂

      And just to cheer you guys up – guess who traded Teemu Selanne AWAY from the Ducks to San Jose.

      Our own Pierre Gauthier, who is persona non grata to Ducks fans ever since.

      Just a little history with a Habs connection.

      • habsindepth says:

        Two thoughts:
        1. On one side, you want to finish the season on a high note, so it doesn’t make sense to be scratching people like Subban.
        2. You do want to give these guys rest, not Subban, he can handle it, but Price has played a lot. Will resting him be optimal? If anything, the veterans, some of them like Hamrlik, Gill, should be rested before the playoffs.

        On another note, we got beaten by the Binghamton Senators last night. Sad, but true.

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        • LA Loyalist says:

          More to zero out any chance of injury.

          Rest is more a judgement call that we can’t really make because we can’t know what little tweaks and pains the guys have.

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        He also traded away Jaro Halak to keep Carey Price. Seems that worked out all right for MTL.

        When Selanne was traded, his numbers were not really in line with his top seasons and were not for the next 3 seasons, it wasn’t until the fortunate timing of the lockout that let him have his knee operated on and rehab it to where he returned to All-Star form. He wouldn’t have been the first player whose career took a permanent downturn because of bad knees.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  7. Bugs says:

    I was checkin out a few of the History Will Be Made commercials cuz I heard they’d made a batch of new ones. (didn’t find’em)
    Anyway, I came across the Patrick Roy one again and I just now realized that he’s at the bottom of the face-off circle to make the save! I mean, he’s RIGHT on the line.
    THAT’S what the “what if he played like a rookie” line is about, I reckon, and not the fabulousness of the save.
    Ok, so I’m late to the party, but I got there, didn’t I? And I brought Schnapps.

    Chillin like MacMillan, potty-boy says he’s L. B. Potter, esq.

    • HabFarmer says:

      Butterscotch Schnapps straight out of the bottle standing outside the party house, in the freezing cold and your so-called buddies are thumbing it, just so you would be so hammered that you would make a pass at that girl inside, and then they could laugh at you. Awesoime times……. .

      “No, I see. The monkey’s out of the bottle now!”

  8. SeriousFan09 says:

    NHL’s got a new History Will Be Made spot of Cam Ward taking over in nets for the Canes for the 2006 playoffs.

    Can’t believe they didn’t take time to recognize Williams for trying to poke out Saku’s eye…

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

    • DearyLeary says:

      Yeah, not like we weren’t doing well in that series before Saku went down.

      Penalty? Nonsense.

      Suspension? Preposterous…

      That missed call was atrocious.

      • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

        I will never forget seeing that black eye blood coming out from under his hand and getting angrier and angrier as I realized there would be no call. Then staying up half the night expecting the League to step in and overturn the game because of the blown call.

        I also stayed up all night the night Glen Murray slashed Kovalev and walked in and scored a couple of years before, expecting the league to step in and over rule it.

        I should mention I was over 25 when both of these events occurred…..
        Sorry for being obnoxious, props for being generous,
        y’all down, we booze hounds, take two drinks and pass.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Boy is that a rotten memory. Thanks!

      P.S. Serious did you buy a phone yet? I was in Toronto briefly last weekend and it wasn’t that cold (actually it was nice) but the cold definitely affected my new iPhone. Not as bad as the old one. And if you have a car charger it may not matter to you, but just fyi.

      • SeriousFan09 says:

        Not yet, still looking at options, trying to decide which CDN telecom company will be robbing me blind for the next few years.

        – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

        • LA Loyalist says:

          General note to ALL you guys if you travel to the states and use your cell phone: whatever plan you have doesn’t work out of country. My data bill was $550 for TWO DAYS in Toronto just checking emails and hockey scores 🙂 because I didn’t call them first and buy an out of country data plan. I yelled at AT&T when I got home and they knocked it down to $40 bucks in arrears but I am sure ROGERS is just as evil

          Be warned!

      • fbkj says:

        and for the millionth time cold affects ALL batteries

  9. SeriousFan09 says:

    Quick feature on Habs Mac Bennett and his family connections to the NHL.

    – I shall always remember Captain Koivu. Habs and Hockey.

  10. The Cat says:

    2 games ago the habs were going nowhere fast and now its talk about the cup lol

    [Disclaimer]: I’m a hockey fan. I care about the habs, but probably not as much as you.

    • Dave Stubbs says:

      One goofy remark about the Stanley Cup… and people think I’m being serious?! I fear that subtlety is not something best practised on the Internet.

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    • observer says:

      they are in 6th or 7th place where they usually are in the weaker conference. nothing great about this for a franchise with such championship history.

      • joeybarrie says:

        Better than being NOT IN THE PLAYOFFS AGAIN like the Leafs. Sorry your season ends Saturday by the way.
        At least we have won a Cup in most people lifetime… And we are also LIGHT YEARS closer than the Leafs.

        There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

        • observer says:

          i repeat i am not a leaf fan. but i do see them as a real good team next year. burke has perfectly set them up for a huge july. and maybe another parade in august!

        • G-Man says:


          • LA Loyalist says:

            I gotta jump in here if you guys are going to pile on Observer like that. Gainey had accomplished great things and deserves every honor, Price has worked out, PK is a stud for the future – BUT it’s like stocks, you pick some winners, but ultimately they have to offset against the losers and you see where you come out NET.
            Gomez was and remains a disaster, unmovable, and keeping us from being able to continue the rebuild. Gionta is Ok, but is he a Montreal Canadiens captain? Um, really? Look down the list and rank him
            On that list, he’s stick boy, sorry.
            So like most things, it’s a mixed bag and what matters is what happens this summer and how much balls Geoff Molson has. It’s going to be interesting.

          • HalifaxHabs says:

            I agree with what your saying LA Loyalist, in that he’s hit on some and missed some, and I know you’re defending Observer because he’s being piled on… but the person who needs to understand the crux of your argument is Observer, not me. BG has hit on some and missed on some, like every other GM.
            But if you listen to Observer tell it, BG & PG are the worst GM’s in history, and they’ve ruined everything.
            Day after day of the one sided opinions build up. And statements like his are going to get called out because they are so biased and one-sided.

      • HalifaxHabs says:

        How about the Leafs and their 3, 30 goal scorers? how do you think they’ll do in the playoffs this year observer?

        • observer says:

          i think add brad richards and a couple of other snipers in july and they’ll do fine next year – burke’s 3rd full season managing the team.

          • joeybarrie says:

            Funny how JM and PG are failures despite making the Conf Finals and the playoffs in both seasons, but Burke is doing a great job despite giving Boston two 1st round (1 top 5) picks and not making the playoffs at all.
            Besides, Toronto can’t afford Richards because they are paying 3 times Gomez’ salary to their stellar Defense….

            There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

          • HalifaxHabs says:

            LOL, add Brad Richards and a couple of snipers eh? wow, I have a feeling all teams would be better if they added Brad Richards and a couple of snipers.

            so in your constant compairison of the Habs to your favourite team, the Leafs, you get to play fantasy GM and add players in the future, to say they are better than the current Habs?

            and don’t get me wrong, I think Burke has the Leafs on the right track, but your Habs bashing is just so weak, it makes me wonder if I’m arguing with a 12 yr old. I need to stop responding to you.

          • mdp2011 says:

            can you enligten us about these “couple of other snipers” that Burke is going to magicaly get on July 1st? Cause looking at the UFA market this summer, it is pretty thin. Oh, and btw, Brad Richards isn’t signing with the leafs, he will sign with the Rangers.

      • joshua94k says:

        Nothing great about making the play-offs without their top two defencemen (Markov, Gorges) for the rest of the season?? Nothing great about making the play-offs without their top forward (Paccioretty) since March ?? Nothing great about making the play-offs with players called in from Hamilton to fill in for injuries ??

        Look at what happened to the Flyers after Pronger got injured recently. Look at the Leafs when they missed Phaneuf for a couple of weeks, it killed their season.

        “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  11. Ian Cobb says:

    I remember Bobby Hull going back into his own end with the puck and winding up for one of his end to end rushes. The boos would start in his end and get louder as he raced up ice. It was a respect thing more than a hate thing. All the players today realise this, booing the opposition is a way for fans to participate, but really, it is the fear of the oppositions best players, a sign of respect in a backward way if you will.

    But booing your own, is a totally different thing. And of course booing other clubs anthems is for the ignorant.!

    • ed lopaz says:

      agree 100% Ian.

      I never actually booed Bobby Hull, but I was at the Forum and heard

      many stars booed – especially Nordiques.

      Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

    • habsnyc says:

      In the 70’s the forum crowd had no problem booing opposing stars especially if they were on a playoff rival. Though, there was a certain respect and admiration for Gilbert Perreault because he was the best stick handler in hockey.

      Subban got a lot of applause at the All-Star game. He has many awards and accolades. He is no more self confident than any other skill player. But he is less self effacing which rubs some people the wrong way. He was ranked 102nd but was taken 47th in the draft. His first press conferences were heavy on confidence and light on humility. Zetterberg, Lidstrom, Toews and Perry who are aknowledged leaders and winners at every level exhibit more humility than Subban. Generally, guys who know how good they are do not need to tell anyone. Patrick Roy showed a lot of self confidence but he won his first of three Conn Smythe trophies when he was 20. Subbsn with grow both in skill and humility over time.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Hull was a class act, too. My parents met him on the train from Ottawa to Toronto and said he was really gracious. I wish I still had the autograph.

  12. giovy says:

    JM should rest both Hamrlik and Price, and maybe Pleks too, for this is a meaningless game except for the leafs. Then I am eager to get the bruins as first-round opponent

    I’m in a Montreal state of mind

    • observer says:

      martinshould rest himself for this game. he’s older than the players by double and has a lot of coaching to do next week including how NOT to be the most penalized team in the league.

  13. joeybarrie says:

    I really want to see Rangers lose to NJD and the Canes taking their spot. I would LOVE IT if they lost out on the playoffs AGAIN by one point…

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      I´d like to see the Tortorella interview after that but seriously, I absolutely can´t stand Carolina. Not that I like the Rangers but the Hurricanes? No, thanks.

      • joeybarrie says:

        But how great would it be to see the Caps lose to Carolina??????
        Plus like you said to see Torts afterwards…
        I don’t hate Carolina, their team consists of players I couldn’t really care less about. Kind of a useless team in my mind.

        There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

        • HabFanSince72 says:

          The year the Canes won the cup after gouging out Saku’s eye has turned me against them.

          Not at all a fan of Glen Sather so it would be funny to see them fail again, but I generally like New York teams, having lived in NYC and still thinking it’s the best city in N America (after Montreal of course).

          • Bob_Sacamano says:

            That´s also the reason why I can´t stand Carolina. Even if it wasn´t intentional, it was Eric Staal who ended Markov´s season btw. I actually like Cam Ward but that´s the only positive I can think of when it comes to Carolina.

    • observer says:

      only reasons they were even sitting in a playoff spot was 3 obvious tank jobs first by pitts and cooke, then by philly who lost all their effort after taking a 2-0 lead and the boston who did the same. 3 tank jobs to help bettman have a new york city team in the playoffs for nbc.

      • HalifaxHabs says:

        so Bettman talked to the GM’s & coaches of Pitt, Philly, and Boston, and asked them to make sure they lose their games to NYR so they can get in? regardless of the fact it could cost them playoff positioning?

        ok genius

        • observer says:

          maybe they just bet on those games? who knows? bettman approves of betting. allowed pled guilty bookmaker rick toccet to coach. has many owners with huge gambling ties such as jeremy jacobs or even former owner of nashville boots del baggio.

  14. Hobie Hansen says:

    My take on the entire Don Cherry thing is that he and many other members of the media, most of them being based out of Toronto and who are Maple Leafs’ fans, is that they can’t stand the transformation the Canadiens have gone through over the past year or two.

    Before last year’s playoffs and the start of this season, the Habs were a risky bet to make the playoffs. The Hockey News, based out of Toronto, picked them to finish last or whatever.

    All the Maple Leafs’ fans that work for the media in Toronto are so pissed that the Leafs are the laughing stock of the NHL that they like to take shots and pile on the Canadiens whenever they have a chance.

    PK Subban, the ole-ole-ole chant, Carey Price, the Pacioretty incident and a very exciting team that defies the odds, drives people in Toronto up the wall.

    So Cherry and many analysts at TSN and other reporters/analysts from Toronto, use every opportunity they can to put down the Canadiens because hockey in their neck of the woods has been garbage for over six years and they’re miserable.

    • ed lopaz says:

      I almost agree with you – just a slight twist.

      Canada hockey is divided over the Habs – you either love them or hate them.

      Since RDS takes many of the Habs supporters with them, the CBC feels like their audience is mostly pro-Leaf and anti-Habs.

      They have done the research, and the CBC knows who their viewers are.

      The reason why Cherry has lasted all these years, is because of the
      viewer “type” that watch the CBC telecasts.

      The Habs are “put down” because that’s what bolsters the ratings, that’s what CBC hockey viewers want to hear.

      PJ Stock is a perfect example.

      He knows that he can make a nice living criticizing the habs in Toronto,
      and even here, back in Montreal, on his radio show and on Anti Chambre.

      Its a calculated, business decision.

      hating the Habs brings in viewers and listeners, which increases the
      advertising dollars they can charge.

      Boone should do the same!!

      Bring in a hockey writer that does NOT support the Habs.

      Watch the “comments” section double with hits.

      Maybe “Tony” / “Observer’ is actually a “plant” – on the HIO payroll???

      That would make great business sense, actually.

      Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Just a slight amendment.

      Don Cherry has good reasons to hate the Habs. We essentially ruined his coaching career. OK, he sucked as much as a coach as he does as a person, but four years in a row we broke his heart in the playoffs. After the 4th loss it was too much and Harry Sinden canned him.

      The same goes for Mike Milbury. Now he’s most remembered for the shoe incident and for being the worst GM in the history of sports, but as a player his highlight reel moments were as a near-stationary spectator while a red white and blue blur skated past him (Robinson, Lafleur, etc …) on the way to goal.

      • observer says:

        The same goes for Mike Milbury. Now he’s most remembered for the shoe incident and for being the worst GM in the history of sports,


        MM? coincidence? Matt Millen former Lions GM a complete idiot as a GM and a record there the same as Milbury in hockey. As soon as he finally is canned in Detroit the team finally is turning it around.

        the co-incidence – as soon a Millen was fired he immediately got commentating jobs on 3 national networks – abc, espn, nfln. just like the milbury – even more so one in canada too , cbc, nesn, versus, nbc.

        both giving expert advice but fans of both sports know that when they had the power to run a team they were absolute failures.

    • observer says:

      don cherry is a don cherry fan! an egotist above all else.

    • observer says:

      leafs are not the laughing stock anymore. were a very improved team the last half season as islander also were. both will be playoff teams next year. toronto with all that cap space will be a contender after burke gets done in july.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Teams that have failed to make the playoffs since the lockout:

        Toronto, NYI, Florida.

        Two of those are jokes.

        The other one is on Long Island.

    • couldn’t agree more. I’m from MTL but go to school in london, ontario and experience this biased, jealous hate first-hand. The media is even more pathetic because they are SUPPOSED to be unbiased and cater to CANADA. it pains me how dumb n ignorant leaf fans are. I don’t even hate the leafs players…that much.. well i do but i especially hate their fans and media around them. just a bunch of flakes and overpaid hacks.

  15. habsguy says:

    I could care less what Cherry says about PK, besides it only tells me just how good PK is. Think about what Cherry would be saying if PK were a leaf????

  16. joeybarrie says:

    I also do not think BOOING PK is any type of concerted effort to do anything but join in on a fad.
    BOOING CHARA was a fad before the hit.
    BOOING any other player we do is something we do to get into their head. The Fans think that their voices will throw him.
    Same with PK, they just want to jump on the bus and ride along. When you got a young kid like that on a team that isnt yours and has had the most success in the league, any type of bad press you buy into. You WANT to believe that the kid is a bum, or is dirty. Just like calling CINDY Crosby a baby and a whiner. Yeah maybe its a bit true, but man can the kid play…. So we go to his worst qualities and play them up. LOOK AT HOW CLAUDE LEMIEUX USED TO ACT????

    There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

    • Miltie01 says:

      I think last night was nothing more than the SENS fans trying to drown out the cheers for PK by the Habs fans in their arena !!!

      I think as Habs fans we get a little worked up and overblow things by time because we love him so much.

      • joeybarrie says:

        As Habs fans we are guilty of the same things. Your exactly right, the same way they want to have their last game with their own fans cheering, we freak out when someone boos our boys. I mean we BOO our own freakin players…
        The truth is as Habs fans we simply think we are the MOST IMPORTANT team in the league and the only one that matters… AND WE ARE RIGHT DON CHERRY, WE ARE RIGHT…

        There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      ” they just want to jump on the bus and ride along.”

      Why is there a bus in the first place?

  17. rlinhares9 says:

    Tomorrow’s game may be useless if a certain result occurs tonight:

    Should PHI beat BUF, the Habs will face the Bruins in the first round of the playoffs. PHI will extend and guarantee their lead over BOS and BUF will have no chance of catching our Habs. That sets up a 3-6 matchup, BOS-MTL.

    I can just picture Pacioretty coming back for game 7, scoring in OT, in BOS, after outracing and deking Chara.

    Ca sent la coupe…

  18. Ian Cobb says:

    Answer to question below!

    PK reached Stardom when he was playing junior! All the players that played against him even at that level knew what a star he was. When they all progress to the NHL level, the word goes with them and into every dressing room in the league. The older players do not like a young kid making them look average.

    Do not worry, PK knows how to handle all the crap thrown at him, even by fools like Cherry, as he progresses to being one of the best players, ever to have played the game.!!

    • Miltie01 says:

      You really think it is all about PK just being really good and folks can’t handle it ?

      • J_P says:


        At the end of the day, he throws the leagues best forwards off their game night in and night out. Sidney Crosby, Mike richards, Jonathan Toews, Alexander Ovechkin…. PK lives for shutting down the leagues best.

        He’s also not the first rookie to come in to the league who’s brash, and I can’t help but feel that the color of his skin and the fact that hes a montreal canadien plays into the constant criticism he receives.

        Look at the blackhawks. They’re probably some of the biggest trash talkers in the entire NHL, but you don’t see huge stories about their team and how they have no respect. HOw about the flyers and Bruins? Two of the dirtiest teams in the league? No one complains about them other than Montreal Canadiens fans.

        • Miltie01 says:

          Other rookies came in just as brash, and they soon learned to conform. A few even found themselves out of the league really quick.
          PK is too good to be out of the league so he will either conform, or blaze a trail for the way rookies are.

        • Jocko says:

          JP, the Flyers and Bruins are THE dirtiest teams in the league. I have read all the crap about Subban, and I just wonder what the problem is with some of these NHL players. Let’s take Richards, handing out his comment about Subban freely to any moron who would listen. What was he saying when Downie was getting 20 games? Last of all, what has anyone said about Recchi and his comments about the embellishment of the injury to MaxPac? Nothing! In my opinion, I think it was classless, but what do you expect from a Bruin? I mean look at Milbury and Cherry, two ex Bruins with no class and nothing intelligent to say!

          I don’t want to see Maurice tonight, I want to see The Rocket!

      • Ian Cobb says:

        Of course!! that and trying to intimidate him, but I know him very well, one of the most polite, mature and intelligent kids that I have had the privilege of knowing.

        And believe me, I have had many live in our home and many others just hang and eat at our table, before going on with their careers and playing in the show.

        • Miltie01 says:

          See, I do believe alot is generated by how good he really is. But to me he does not conform to the established norms of how rookies behave in the NHL. Whether you or I agree with those norms is irrelevant, the fact is their is a hierachy and culture that is established and he is going against the grain. That is why he gets as much flack as he gets. What drives me nuts are those who say it is a race based reaction, as I see none of that.

          • Bob_Sacamano says:

            I guess it has to do with race, at least a little bit. How much exactly? I don´t know. How would I and how would you know it doesn´t? No one is going to come out and say: “We don´t like him because he´s black” or worse things.

            What did you think about Darren Pang´s comment btw, pure coincidence?

            I am only sure about one thing: If P.K. was a white guy playing for the Leafs, the ones like CBC and TSN would praise his tremendous talent a lot more and criticize him a lot less. “Future Norris Trophy winner” instead of “must show more respect”: That´s what we´d be hearing most of the time.

          • Ian Cobb says:

            I agree Miltie01, Hockey is a sub culture. All the players, trainers and more, know each other very well. They summer together, single guys hang out together and the family guys hang out together.

            Even guys in Europe and over here all know each other. Like I said it is a sub culture, from top to bottom.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      I think there is more to the booing of PK than simply booing the opposition’s star.

      First this is not something that happens automatically to good players. Do the Sedins or Pavel Datsyuk get booed? There is usually a reason beyond the fact that the player is good, e.g.

      Dale Hunter – a**hole on skates
      Zdeno Chara – goon
      Dany Heatley – a less than admirable human being
      Danny Briere – turned us down
      Sidney Crosby – behaviour during the Habs – Pen series.

      Second, I don’t think PK is that big a star yet.

      Third, you can’t deny there’s been an explicit campaign against him led mostly by the Toronto media.

    • joeybarrie says:

      I think the problem with PK Subban is simple. These guys are conformers. They do what they are told and have never questioned what has been taught to them. The good ol boys hockey club starts young. Your supposed to act this way. Your supposed to do things this way.
      PK is his own person. He has good and bad qualities like everyone else. The difference is he simply doesn’t care what others think of him and has very little interest catering to the so called Veterans in the league. Cindy Crosby has won a Gold medal, Stanley Cup etc, etc, etc. Well you can’t go against a guy like that as a rookie. He needs to learn his place.
      UM NO….. PK wants to try to get in his head, GREAT. Worked last season in the playoffs and Cindy is bitter.
      The other guys do not like his attitude TOWARDS THEM, and that because he hasn’t been around in the NHL he should not be stirring the pot. CRAP. They know where this kid is going and they expect him to do it a certain way. Well I am glad PK has his own expectations.
      Clearly the guys on the team like this kid. They know his desire and his nature. The players on opposite teams simply do not like him getting the crowd up on its feet with his antics. THIS IS WHAT HAS BEEN MISSING FROM HOCKEY. Look at Ovechkin and his dancing hot stick…. OH BUT WAIT, you can only do stuff like that once you have been around awhile….. BS.
      They don’t like it when he celebrates his success because it is based on their failure. GET OVER IT, GROW THE F UP and take it like a man.
      You know what goal I remember more than ALOT of others????????
      GEORGE LARAQUE. He was so happy. He (in his own mind) tried hard to be a positive influence and produce for his team, albeit not in the manner we needed, but his reaction after that was GREAT. That was a great moment. PK has that effect on me as well. Who cares if he is a rookie. Thats the kind of stuff the NHL needs.
      TRUST ME, any one of those players get traded to Montreal, they will LOVE HIM.
      THEY ARE HONESTLY JEALOUS. Cause not only does he play well, and get points, but he has the most fun doing it. And they were playing themselves down, and conforming in a certain manner that they realize now was absolutely useless…..

      There may be other teams, but only ONE Club De Hockey…

  19. BlueRecycleBox says:

    I need them to win the first cup for me!
    History will be made!

  20. habs03 says:

    Question, who holds the tie breaker between us and the Sabres.


  21. habsfan_61 says:

    here’s another along the same lines as the apr. 9 beat leafs win cup. both times canada has hosted the olympics, the host city has gone on to win the cup the season after. will it happen a 3rd time?
    76 montreal summer/77 stanley cup habs
    88 calgary winter/89 stanley cup flames
    10 vancouver winter/ 11 nucks cup?

  22. Ian Cobb says:

    With nothing on the line, our team, just goes through the motions anyway, putting another season into the books. This is the exact time when players get hurt.

    All guns will be fireing again when the play offs start, so rest the old and weary in Saturday nights meaningless game. I for one will not be watching, instead I will be taking my lady out dancing, so I might watch two more months of edge of your seat hockey without gilt.

    Our team has at least 3 more rounds of high tempo, low scoring, squirming in your seat, play off hockey to go yet. Who cares which team we play first, we can beat them all if we play our game.

  23. joeybarrie says:

    If the Sabres lose to Philly tonight the game vs toronto becomes useless again. Philly has to win if they want the number one spot.
    But what is nice is that we are in before the season ends, and Toronto has almost no chance to really do anything negative to us.
    PLUS it will be nice for fans in toronto to see a Playoff team before they head to their well worn in and usual spots in the golf course clubhouse bar. Its nice for them cause I hear their fans do not like change….
    I REALLY REALLY HOPE the Sabres lose tonight, I would love to see our boys beat Toronto 5-0 JUST FOR FUN…

  24. HabFanSince72 says:

    I noticed a few boos directed at PK last night. Now, why do Ottawa fans have any reason to boo him?

    I suspect this is an effect of what seems a concerted effort to turn PK into a pariah, an effort spearheaded by our own CBC and it’s bigoted headliner, Don Cherry.

    Your tax dollars at work.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Nah…many of the best players in the world get booed in opposing teams’ buildings…

    • Habs_are_here says:

      Hey I’m no Don Cherry fan either, and I do believe he’s a bigot.

      But as a Habs fan since 72, you must have realized that WE as fans, boo just about every other team’s best player on the ice for no apparent reason.
      We booed Chara (pre-Pacioretty incident)
      We booed Heatley
      We booed Crosby (and we’re his favourite team)
      can’t think of them all now, but we boo mercilessly as a collective.

      Point is PK is BEST! And people boo good players on opposing teams. They do it, we do it even louder!

      Not that there’s anything wrong with that…

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Yes, but PK has not reached the level of superstardom that would normally precede getting booed by the opposition.

        Do the Sens and Leaf fans boo Jeff Skinner or Logan Couture?

        • Habs_are_here says:

          Jeff and Logan haven’t attracted hostile words from players such as Mike Richards & co.

        • avatar_58 says:

          Just proves he IS a star and other teams fear it

        • Hobie Hansen says:

          Subban plays for the Habs remember?

        • Ian Cobb says:

          PK reached Stardom when he was playing junior! All the players that played against him even at that level knew what a star he was. When they all progress to the NHL level, the word goes with them and into every dressing room in the league. The older players do not like a young kid making them look average.

          Do not worry, PK knows how to handle all the crap thrown at him, even by fools like Cherry, as he progresses to being one of the best players, ever to have played the game.!!

    • ed lopaz says:


      on the one hand I have no doubt there are old time bigots in the stands, but it goes beyond that.

      you are right.

      its become almost a “battle” between the Subban admirers and the Subban detractors.

      those that blindly accept and support Cherry as some kind of Canadian hockey legend, will back everything he says.

      (there are even Habs supporters who have posted here at HIO expressing their “concerns” about PK’s behavior).

      when I was a child, maybe 10 or so, I remember going to sporting events and booing the great players on the other team.

      it was a “statement” – like saying, “hey, I know you are great, but you play for the team I hate, so i will boo you all game”.

      I remember booing Dale Hunter for sure!!

      He was an excellent player for the Nordiques, and I knew it.

      But since the Habs were having trouble with him, I supported my players in their struggle to contain him.

      Don Cherry is a joke.

      I have not watched a CBC broadcast live for years and years because of him.

      The fact that he represents “Canadian” hockey is tragic.

      Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        “The fact that he represents “Canadian” hockey is tragic.”

        The fact that he was voted a great Canadian has made me think Quebec independence isn’t all bad.

    • Miltie01 says:

      Why must there always be a boogie man behind every corner ?

      PK was booed for the simple reason that Habs fans in the arena were cheering him earlier. The Sens fans did not want that happening in their own building. Cherry had nothing to do with it, and it seems to me that the BIGOT label gets thrown around way to easy in this PC environment we live in.

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Don Cherry rose to stardom insulting European hockey players.

        This isn’t PC. It’s a fact.

        • Miltie01 says:

          That is crap, he has opinions, some you don’t like.
          PC means labeling everyone you disagree with as a bigot….that is a fact.

          Again, last nights booing of PK had nothing to do in the least with Cherry or bigotry, it was fans of the Sens trying to be louder than the very vocal Habs fans present. Nothing more, nothing less.

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            Maybe you don’t understand the meaning of the words “bigot” or “racist”.

            It is actually racist to attack people because of their ethnicity. This isn’t PC, it’s OED.

            Don Cherry’s constant attacks on European players – because they are European – is indeed an opinion I disagree with, but it isn’t just that. It’s also racism.

    • wd40 says:

      i suspect Sens fans are in a pretty lousy mood this year. peeing on our (future?) star is just something they need to do to assuage their misery.

  25. joshua94k says:

    testing to see if comments are working

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  26. dicktracy says:

    It looks smokey in there. Don’t know how they played breathing in that second hand smoke. Maybe that’s why the player are faster these days.

  27. joshua94k says:

    The Canadiens earned a point by tying the game with 11 seconds left in the game after pulling goalie Auld for the extra attacker. That’s the positve the team wants to take going forward.

    They have to play with caution. you don’t want to risk injury this time of year by driving to the net and getting hit by pucks. You don’t want to block shots and get banged up during the final game of the regular season as Andrei Markov did in 2009.

    Martin should not play Price, Subban, Hamrlik and Gill. A week off for Price will do wonders for him. He can still practice hard. Subban, Gill and Hamrlik have played long minutes this season and deserve the rest. He should let the White, Webber, and the young guys play longer minutes.

    “It’s too much for one guy to shoulder. For us, we’re going to do it as a group. It’s about sharing that responsibility win or lose.” – Mike Cammalleri

  28. smiler2729 says:


    “My second favourite team is whoever plays the Leafs”

  29. ed lopaz says:

    Now that the Habs have clinched a playoff spot, it would be utterly ridiculous to play Price in Toronto.

    Without Price in the playoffs, this team can not beat anyone.

    With Price, I believe they can beat any team.

    If Price gets hurt in Toronto and is not available for the playoffs,

    Martin would not be able to show his face again in Montreal.

    Price should not play. Period.

    Habs hockey is “smart” hockey – we play 5 man defence, not just 2 – we move up the ice as a 5 man unit, we back check with 5.

  30. Hobie Hansen says:

    Heading into Saturday’s game against the Leafs, I’m a little worried. I’m not worried so much about winning or losing but rather Phaneuf, Komisarek or Schenn injuring one of our players. They’ve got noting to play for but pride and you can guarantee that they’ll be looking to add a feather to their cap by leveling the Habs in front of their fans…

  31. Hobie Hansen says:

    Heading into Saturday’s game against the Leafs, I’m a little worried. I’m not worried so much about winning or losing but rather Phaneuf, Komisarek or Schenn injuring one of our players. They’ve got noting to play for but pride and you can guarantee that they’ll be looking to add a feather to their cap by leveling the Habs in front of their fans…
    Hopefully we skate away without injuries!

    • Habs fan in Sens land says:

      I absolutely agree with you. I was actually talking to a colleague, whose a Habs fan, about my concern a couple of days ago (when ever the leafs were officially eliminated from playoff contention, and no, I’m not talking about opening day…). Another coworker, who, unfortunately for him, cheers for the leafs, turned around and said “Don’t say that… We’re not the Bruins.” I guess he had a valid point, the Bruins tend to make the playoffs… About the post you put right above it, don’t worry about Komisarek injuring one of our players, to do that, he’d have to catch a Hab, which we all know that he can’t since his skating is soooo poor. If Phaneuf tries, he may make contact, but at least he’ll be well out of position and lead to a Habs goal. He is able to make the big hit from time to time, but when he tries to, he takes himself right out of the play. Either way, don’t play our “big” (or little, if you rather) guns, since this game means essentially nothing and will be, as it has for a few years now, the equivalent of a playoff game for the leafs.

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