Development camp begins, Lefebvre to coach Bulldogs

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The Canadiens have invited 32 prospects – including recent first-round draftees Nathan Beaulieu and Jarred Tinordi  – to three days of evaluation and training at the sports complex in south-shore Brossard.
The sessions are open to the public, and HIO will be there.
Look for updates late Wednesday afternoon.

At a 2 p.m. press conference, general manager Marc Bergevin will introduce former Canadien Sylvain Lefebvre as new coach of the Bulldogs. Hamilton coach Clement Jodoin will be interviewed for a spot on Michel Therrien’s staff.

Bergevin also will introduce Patrice Brisebois and Martin Lapointe, who are joining the team’s hockey operations staff.

The team announcements:

Montreal Canadiens Executive vice president and general manager, Marc Bergevin, announced today the appointment of Sylvain Lefebvre as head coach of the Hamilton Bulldogs in the American Hockey League.

Clément Jodoin, who completed in 2011-12 his first season as the Hamilton Bulldogs Head Coach, will meet Michel Therrien for a position of assistant coach with the Canadiens.

A native of Richmond, Quebec, Sylvain Lefebvre enjoyed a 14-year career in the NHL, suiting up for five teams, including the Canadiens in his first three seasons from 1989 to 1992. Lefebvre played 945 career games totaling 184 points (30 goals, 154 assists) 674 penalty minutes, while displaying a +108 plus/minus differential. He also participated in 129 playoff contests, recording 18 points (4 goals, 14 assists) and 101 penalty minutes. The defenseman won the Stanley Cup with the Colorado Avalanche in 1996.

Now 44, Sylvain Lefebvre spent the past five seasons with the Avalanche organization, including the last three (2009 to 2012) as an assistant to head coach Joe Sacco. He previously had similar duties with the AHL’s Lake Erie Monsters in 2007-08 and 2008-09.

Sylvain Lefebvre played his junior hockey with the Laval Titan in the QMJHL between 1984 and 1987. He then joined the Canadiens as a free agent and began his professional hockey career at age 19 with Montreal’s AHL farm team, the Sherbrooke Canadiens. He played two full seasons with Sherbrooke before making it to the NHL in 1989-90.

In three seasons with the Montreal Canadiens, Lefebvre played 200 regular season games, producing 53 points (11 goals, 42 assists) and serving 182 penalty minutes. He then appeared in 165 games with the Toronto Maple Leafs from 1992 to 1994. On March 28, 1994, Lefebvre was dealt to the Quebec Nordiques in a multi-player deal that included star forward Mats Sundin. After one season in Quebec City he followed the team when it was transferred to Colorado, playing four more seasons with the Avalanche from 1995 to 1999 (303 games), winning the Stanley Cup in 1996, his first season in Colorado. Lefebvre signed with the New York Rangers as a free agent, playing 229 games from 1999 to 2003. He spent his final season as a player with Bern of the Swiss National League in 2003-04, helping them win the league title.

Sylvain Lefebvre and his wife, Marie-Claire, have four children.

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A native of Ville St-Pierre, Quebec, Martin Lapointe enjoyed a successful 14-year career in the NHL with four different teams before he was hired as a pro scout by the Chicago Blackhawks organization in December 2009. Over his NHL career, Martin suited up for 991 games recording 381 points (181 goals and 200 assists) after being drafted 10th overall by the Detroit Red Wings at the 1991 NHL Entry Draft.

Signed as an unrestricted free agent by the Chicago Blackhawks on August 4, 2005, Martin Lapointe would go on to play 216 games with the Hawks over three seasons recording 30 goals and 32 assists before being acquired by the Ottawa Senators at the trading deadline, on February 26, 2008. Prior to joining the Blackhawks, the former Lac St. Louis and Laval Titan star forward spent three seasons with the Boston Bruins where he was signed as an unrestricted free agent on July 2, 2001. As a Bruin, Lapointe had 83 points, including 40 goals in 205 games. He made his NHL debut with the Detroit Red Wings in 1991-92 suiting up for four games. Lapointe would earn a permanent spot on the Red Wings roster in 1993-94 playing 50 games and racking up 16 points. He tallied his first NHL goal on November 21, 1993 scoring on St. Louis’ netminder Curtis Joseph. As a Red Wing, Lapointe took part in 552 games, amassing 108 goals and adding 122 helpers for a total of 230 points. He also played a pivotal role in the Red Wings Stanley Cup championships in 1997 and 1998, scoring the Cup winning goal in the fourth and decisive game of the finals over the Washington Capitals in 1998.

Now 38, Martin Lapointe started out his professional career with a Calder Cup championship with Adirondack (AHL) in 1991-1992. He began his junior career with the Laval Titan at age 16 playing four seasons with that franchise racking seasons of 96, 98, 55 and 89 points. He wrapped up his QMJHL career with 338 points, including 149 goals, in 195 games. Lapointe also played in the Memorial Cup tournament in 1992-93 and led the CHL with 30 playoff points (13 goals and 17 assists). On the international stage, Lapointe represented Canada at three World Junior Hockey Championships winning a gold medal in 1991 (Saskatoon) and 1993 (Gävle, Sweden). His combined record at the WJHC shows 9 goals and 8 assists in 21 games.

Martin Lapointe and his wife, Tania, have four children.

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Born on January 27, 1971 in Montreal, defenseman Patrice Brisebois enjoyed a successful 18-year career in the NHL, including 16 with the Canadiens, who made him their second round pick, 30th overall, in the 1989 NHL Entry Draft. Throughout his career Brisebois suited up in 1,009 games, recording 98 goals and 322 assists, for a total of 420 points. He appeared in 98 playoff contests, notching 32 points, and won the Stanley Cup with the Canadiens in 1993.

Patrice Brisebois spent the last two seasons of his career with the Canadiens during which he played his 1,000th NHL game on March 14, 2009, after suiting up for the Colorado Avalanche from 2005 to 2007. A chronic back injury limited him to 113 games during which he recorded 11 goals and 38 helpers. He enjoyed his most successful seasons with Montreal. From 1990-91, at only 20 years of age, until the end of the 2003-04 season Brisebois played 791 games, recording 342 points, including 79 goals. He ranks third among Canadiens’ defensemen for games played (behind Larry Robinson and Serge Savard) and 11th on the team’s all-time list.

Patrice Brisebois’ career was successful at all levels, starting with his junior years when he participated in the Memorial Cup tournament on three occasions, twice with the Laval Titan and once with the Drummondville Voltigeurs, being named to the Memorial Cup All-Star Team in 1991. That same year, Brisebois was voted top defenseman in the Canadian Hockey League (CHL), and earned a spot on the QMJHL’s First All-Star Team.

On the international stage he is one of few players to represent Canada twice at the World Junior Championship winning the gold medal on each occasion, in 1990 and 1991. In 14 games in those two championships he scored 3 goals and added 8 assists for 11 points. Patrice Brisebois stood out for his community involvement throughout his career with the Canadiens. He was awarded the Jean-Béliveau Trophy in 2009 for his remarkable impact on the community.

Patrice Brisebois and his wife, Michèle, have two daughters.

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The Canadiens held their own combine on Tuesday and invited five potential first-round choices, including HIO fave Alex Galchenyuk.

320 Comments

  1. HabFab says:

    Oh ya!! Well take this you bums!

    mckennaconor Gomez is amazing. How often do you see a guy maintain such a high level of form over such a long period of time?

    The irony could not be resisted…

    • Bripro says:

      Feel better, Frank? Got it out of your system?
      Take the suggestion you have me the other day.
      Go grab yourself a drink, then have one for me.

  2. Hali_Hab says:

    Habs: “Michel Therrien and Clement Jodoin will meet within the next couple of days but its pretty much a done deal he will be Habs Asst Coach ”

    Tony Marinao via Twitter

  3. HabFab says:

    In a foul mood today and was looking foe a good scrap tonight on HIO but you guys look fought out “sigh”

    EDIT; was that looking “for” or a “foe”…Freud would have fun with moi!!

  4. TomNickle says:

    With the recent additions that I’ll call, ahem, culturally significant. The following are some players that I’d be okay with Bergevin acquiring.

    Marc Edouard Vlasic
    Derick Brassard
    David Perron

    • shiram says:

      I can see Vlasic and Perron, but isn’t there enough centers already on the Habs?

      • TomNickle says:

        You don’t think personnel changes are coming?

        • shiram says:

          I know you’ll bring back the Plekanec thing, it is your leitmotiv afterall, but it seems to me it would be a lateral move, at best, and if the idea is to give the kids some TOI, bringing another center will negate that. So no, I don’t see them trading either of Pleks/DD/Eller to afterwards go get another center.

          • TomNickle says:

            It isn’t just Plekanec. And to be honest I don’t think it’s Plekanec at all since Therrien’s hiring.

            It wouldn’t shock me at all to see Eller traded, as stupid as I believe it would be there are reasons to trade a centreman and with Therrien’s hiring logic says it’s likely to be him instead of Desharnais or Plekanec.

          • shiram says:

            He does seem to be focusing alot on Quebecois, but I hope he has better judgement than to make lateral trades just to get guys from Montréal.

    • Bripro says:

      I watched Brassard play in Kahnawake when he roomed in Chateauguay (south shore Montreal) with a friend, who’s a junior scout.
      I really like this boy. Full of class and very attentive.
      He took time with my son and his friends.
      If character is your barometer, then I’m with you 100%.

    • habsnyc says:

      All excellent choices. Great when a GM can get a 24-25 year old player with solid stats who was a first round pick.

      If the Wild do not tender Latendresse, I would love to get him back in Montreal.
      Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

  5. ProHabs says:

    I agree with all the posters today.

    Brisebois loved playing for the Habs, he wanted the no-trade clause to stay a Hab, he came back and played for the Habs because he loved the team, he showed up with a smile on his face playing with the Habs. All things that made him a great guy who loved the bleu, blanc et rouge.

    But on the ice, as a player, as a defenceman for the team, the guy was just horrible.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      He wasn’t actually that bad when you take some time and look at his stats.
      His mistakes were so magnified it wasn’t funny. After every game there would be comments about his mistakes, but everyone seemed to miss all the mistakes I happened to notice by everyone else.
      I don’t mean he was a great player by any stretch. He just wasn’t as bad as many seem to think. He actually had one HELL of a career with limited talent.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • otter649 says:

      Players do not last in The NHL if they were horrible & play over 1.000 games…..

  6. RabidHabit says:

    Word out of PEI is that Gerard Gallant is on Canadiens coaching staff- most likely Assistant Coach to MT. This comes from reliable source that is family member of Gerard (who is from PEI).

    “It’s a game of inches, dick”-Steve Shutt

  7. Un Canadien errant says:

    Boone lied to us. He promised us a liveblog of the Canadiens’ combine. Would have been cool….

    Welcome aboard
    by Mike Boone June 13 at 1:31 PM

    Morgan Rielly is skating through cones.
    by Mike Boone June 13 at 1:32 PM

    More cones.
    by Mike Boone June 13 at 1:34 PM

    Renaud Lavoie and François Gagnon are in attendance. Ron MacLean is not. Have I mentioned what a colossal dick he is?
    by Mike Boone June 13 at 1:36 PM

    Still more cones.
    by Mike Boone June 13 at 1:38 PM

    Matt Dumba just came out of nowhere and demolished a cone with an open-ice hit. Just crushed it. It flew ten rows into the stands. Jessica Rusnack is first on scene.
    by Mike Boone June 13 at 1:40 PM

    Now the other cones want to fight Dumba.
    by Mike Boone June 13 at 1:40 PM

    Pierre Gauthier is admonishing Rusnack that she can have the cone, but only one.
    by Mike Boone June 13 at 1:41 PM

    Alex Galchenyuk getting warmed up on the other ice for his turn at the on-ice drills. He’s stickhandling around a cone with ease.
    by Mike Boone June 13 at 1:45 PM

    My bad, that’s not a cone, it’s Tomas Kaberle in an orange practice jersey.
    by Mike Boone June 13 at 1:46 PM

    Brenda Shanahan issues a statement that Dumba won’t be suspended for his hit on the cone since it put itself in a vulnerable position when Dumba was committed to the hit.
    by Mike Boone June 13 at 2:32 PM

    ———————————
    In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

    http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Bripro says:

      :)
      Two questions:
      Can you ask Boone why the Goat is still there? and
      Brenda Shanahan? …. either his wife is taking over or he forgot to strap them on this morning, and they’re still in his wife’s purse. ;)

    • HardHabits says:

      Hell must’ve frozen over. Not a Mister in sight. :-)

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        I was channeling my inner Boone, trying to replicate his sparse, whimsical style. With the relative urgency necessary in a liveblog, I can understand his need to dispense with the social niceties, much the same as a play-by-play man.

        ———————————
        In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

        • HardHabits says:

          Good job at that. I literally laughed my ass off. Having difficulty sitting now but that’s the price you pay for having a sense of humour.

    • Rugger says:

      You missed the fine print on Shanahan’s statement:

      **unless Dumba is drafted by the Canadiens, then of course he is suspended for 25 games, silly reporter, suspensions are for Habs**

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        No, Dumba was wearing a black jersey, he’s in the clear.

        ———————————
        In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

        http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • HabFab says:

      Friggin hilarious :D

    • habstrinifan says:

      I enjoyed this… good work.

  8. habsnyc says:

    What is the hockey operatations staff? Who will coach special teams and who will coach the goalies? And why doesn’t anyone hire Dandenault?

    Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

    • 24moreCups says:

      I’m pretty sure Pierre Groulx is still the goalie coach.

      • shiram says:

        Yes he is the only coach from last year keeping his job.

        • habsnyc says:

          Did the team have a player development coach last year? I know they let go Cunneyworth and Ladouceur. But they were behind the bench.

          Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

          • shiram says:

            Don’t think they had one last season.

          • habsnyc says:

            Maybe there was a job description in the press conference. Sounds like these are new positions. But it is not clear to me if hockey operations reports to the coach or to the general manager and what Brisebois and Lapointe are expected to do. I think it helps to have coaches communicating with players in the minors about what is expected of them.

            Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

        • ProHabs says:

          Groulx – he is the one from last year with a french name so ya, he gets to keep his job.

          • habsnyc says:

            Ladouceur has a French name.

            Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            Don’t want to try to convince a cynic, but the main factor was the good rapport he has with Carey Price and the results he gets.

            ———————————
            In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

            http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

  9. Timo says:

    So now more Breezers will be developed? Awesome, I can’t wait!

  10. TomNickle says:

    GOMEZ SCORES AGAIN!

  11. Croz38 says:

    I’ve read a lot of Brisebois bashing today. Good ol’ TomNickle again has been the voice of reason in this though. Brisebois was not a great player, but he was good. Sure he screwed up quite a bit, but he was misused as well. The thing I remember most about Brisebois was his absolute love for the Habs and playing for them. He got crapped on all the time, and came back for more with a smile on his face because he loves the team so much. Thats a guy i want associated with my team. Glad to have him back.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I never understood why he was booed so much. The guy loved being a Canadien, had a no-trade clause and enforced it, and when he had a chance he returned. I hope we get more players like him, who are happy to be a Montréal Canadien and can’t imagine being anywhere else.

      ———————————
      In the very long view, it is important that kids growing up in Québec love the Canadiens and recognize themselves in the team, and a bit of the team in themselves. There must be a strong, visceral, emotional connection between the fans and leurs Glorieux.

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.com/

    • Bripro says:

      He was also one of the most approachable and quotable guys in the room. Always a smile on his face, and never complained.
      And even when he played through his back injury and was constantly booed, we never heard him say anything out of line.
      Yes, his talent slipped over the years, but his heart was always with the Habs. So good for him.

  12. TomNickle says:

    I think the Habs should draft a guy who actually converts on scoring opportunities.

    Like this guy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJBV74Wnyvs&feature=fvwrel

    Or this guy

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVWJ6imYM8o

  13. pmaraw says:

    oh man, love this kid, hope we draft him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSA_sWGM44&feature=related
    would love to see Forsberg in a Habs Jersey.

    • TomNickle says:

      Ha. Glad I don’t want him on this team. That video makes me feel better about it too.

      That compilation is littered with offensive opportunities that he didn’t cash in on.

      Then again, for a mediocre scorer, it’s hard to find goals on video.

      • pmaraw says:

        HA! you didnt even watch it.

        • TomNickle says:

          Pretty sure I did. It’s filled with players cashing in on rebounds from shots that Forsberg took that were stopped from great scoring areas.

          You didn’t get that from the video?

      • Max says:

        Forsberg is a boss. Those compilation vids can even make Georges Laraque look like a scorer.I watch em’ all with a grain.

        • TomNickle says:

          Funny. In my experience youtube highlight videos of players are usually compilations of a player’s best offensive moments.

          Then again, when you consider that he doesn’t often score it must have been hard work putting that video together.

          • Max says:

            You have to admit that being 9th in team scoring as a 16-17 year old is pretty impressive, considering some of the other guys in front of him on the team played as many as 10 games more and ranged in age from 21-32 years old.

            The leading scorer on that team had 36 points and is 26. Forsberg was by far the youngest player on the Leksands IF squad.

            In comparison,Malkin at the same age had a mere 12 points in 34 games with Magnitogorsk and was 18th in team scoring,albeit with quite a few less games played than the leaders.

          • TomNickle says:

            His countryman Sebastian Collberg has better offensive skills and production.

            Teuvo Teravainen scored in a non relegated league at a far better pace.

            The comparison to Evgeni Malkin is laughable. Malkin in a 4th line role for Metallurg in contrast to Forsberg as a second line player with Leksands. Malkin also dominated international competition in his draft year at all levels, Under 20 and Under 18. Forsberg did no such thing. He played well in the Under 18 tournament and yet was nearly invisible at the Under 20 tournament with nothing outside of solid forechecking.

            Instead of comparing Forsberg to current NHL talent it would be wise to compare him to players in his draft class. He isn’t in the same league as Yakupov, Galchenyuk, Grigorenko or even Teravainen.

            He’s in there with Faksa, Sissons, Gaunce, Wilson and Collberg.

            Players who score at a rate as low as Forsberg rarely bring elite offense to the NHL. Pavel Datsyuk is just about the only one I can think of off hand.

            But I do appreciate the thought you put into that instead of a BS story about dozens of live sightings of him in Sweden.

          • Max says:

            I skipped that last sentence you wrote but anyway,there’s a reason as t why he’s he top ranked European based player this season. There are intangibles which the scouts have identified that other higher scoring European based players may not possess.

            Speed,mental fortitude,toughness, defensive play,and hockey sense. These attributes amongst others, cannot be broken down into simple goals and points but are oftentimes equally important when determining the worth of a player.

            We often make the mistake of rating a player simply based on point totals. We must try to analyze the complete player and bring out the best in them as they move forward.

            You must admit,there have been plenty of ridiculously high scoring junior players who were never drafted and never played in the NHL,and others who had mediocre NHL careers.

  14. mdp2011 says:

    interesting piece from Sportsnet about trading down from 1st overal. It has only been done 4 times in history, and 2 of the 4 times, Rick Dudley has been involed.

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/draft/2012/06/12/nhl_draft_2012_oilers_first_pick_trade_options_rick_dudley/

  15. commandant says:

    What a game at the Euro. Portugal comes up huge with the late goal.

    Forca Portugal.

    Go Habs Go!
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  16. HardHabits says:

    Who does this guy TomNickle think he is? Pfffft. I am calling you out TN. Just because I have decided to take a hiatus from these pages doesn’t mean you can hog the spotlight like you’re some kind of HH protégé and replacement. What’s worse is you actually know how to string together a few premises to come up with a half decent (albeit half-assed) conclusion. All that without the support of obscure statistics.

    There are dues to pay kiddo. Courses to take. Competency required. You can’t just step into the role of agent provHIOcateur so easily.

    BTW. Your Certification is in the mail.

    • TomNickle says:

      Ha.

      Don’t bloody well share that with Andrew Berkshire. It would appear I’ve fallen out of favour with him.

    • Chorske says:

      One man’s obscure statistic is another man’s actual information.

      But like someone once said, never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

      • HardHabits says:

        You mean the story that because the “facts” don’t produce the desired results, meaning that studying Fenwick/Corsi doesn’t explain why another team could still end up with a higher goal differential per game, commonly known as a wins, that it is somehow due to the team being unlucky.

        It’s more like, don’t let stats get in the way of a good argument. Or better yet, when you haven’t got a clue or an original idea, hide it with a fancy pie chart.

        Mind you, two of my favourite websites are enattendantlesnordiques.blogspot.com and threehundredeight.blogspot.com.

        Stats are not the issue. It is the conclusions that are drawn and how they are drawn that matter. Stats, IMO, should only support an argument and on their own have no legs to stand on.

        Generally as well they can only describe what happened and although they can describe trends, cannot predict the future nor can they explain things that have human elements involved.

        Same thing as saying that musical notes cannot compose music on their own.

    • shiram says:

      What? you are still here, I thought they had replaced you…

    • Habsrule1 says:

      I think this is my favorite post from you HH.
      Might be because you didn’t really write anything Habs or hockey-related.
      :-P
      Sorry….couldn’t resist.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  17. TomNickle says:

    Gotta feel for the Danes.

  18. --Habs-- says:

    Met Sylvain Lefebvre last year at the USA development camp where both our daughters were invited to. Both him and his wife are both excellent people.

  19. Ali says:

    Goldwater files suit to overturn City of Glendale’s approval of arena lease. Death knell for the Coyotes? St. Patrick is licking his lips.

    • TomNickle says:

      At this point my desire to see the Coyotes moved isn’t out of a want for a new city. It’s because of the underhanded way that the City of Glendale and the NHL have handled it. Something tells me that the Phoenix Coyotes of Glendale will no longer be funded by the tax payers of the City of Glendale.

      • Lizardking89 says:

        It was very underhanded to try and soak the tax payers of that city to prop up a failing franchise all for the glorification of Bettman’s ego. I just hope they don’t go to Quebec City. I hated those F’ing Nordiques with a passion.

        • commandant says:

          By the time this is heard in court, the timelines for a move are passed. The NHL was tight for time with scheduling and other issues last year when the Jets moved and that was nearly a month earlier.

          I cant see a Phoenix move before 2013 at the earliest now.

          Go Habs Go!
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          • TomNickle says:

            And wasn’t that the reason this was done? No city was prepared to take a team. Surely Gary Bettman and Bill Daly knew that Goldwater would take measures to prevent the agreement from solidifying.

        • Habsrule1 says:

          I hated them too….until they left.
          Then I missed the rivalry. There was and is none like it in all of sports.
          Battle of Ontario? Alberta? Yanks & Sox?
          They ain’t got nothin’!

          Go Habs Go!!

          “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

  20. jols101 says:

    TSN reports New Jersey not giving up 1st round pick this year. Weird, I would have bet that they would have considering their draft position and the depth of the next 2 years…

  21. Ali says:

    It’s weird, everyone who was hating on Roy as a choice for coach said he might ruin our young guys with his ego, temper, etc. If anyone would’ve not been a fan of a so-called “lazy” player as Grigorenko is purported to be, it would be him.

  22. rileysutherland says:

    Can’t believe the year’s over, the Kings won, and we’re already talking development camp. It’s been 2 days!!!

    Boone linked to this guy’s take down of HNIC the other day, and here’s his post-mortem on the season. Interesting, even if I don’t totally agree:

    http://thebarnstormer.com/hockeys-worst-year/

  23. TomNickle says:

    I’m saying my piece here about Filip Forsberg and then I’m done until draft day unless provoked ;)

    He is a 6’1 – 190 lb player in a professional league with a relegated team.

    He scored 17 points in 43 games with his squad in a complimentary role, nothing to sneeze at. 7 points in 6 games in under 18 competition and 1 point in 6 games in under 20 competition.

    Here’s the thing. People in love with him as a #3 overall selection point to the “scouts”(always unnamed) who rave about him having the skills and size to score at the next level. I’ve always found that argument to be funny. Maybe first he should demonstrate that he can score at a level considered to be elite in a league a little bit better than the Allsvenskan. And considering his physical attributes, it isn’t as if he’s being overwhelmed in the strength department. His league is filled with journeymen, players who were too small to make it and players who weren’t skilled enough to make it. I think that says he should be scoring at a better rate if he’s going to be considered among the elite prospects.

    He has fellow countrymen and otherwise who boast far more impressive offensive skills and production. What he brings is safe. He’s going to be a big guy who can contribute at every level of the game but will not be elite at anything(hard to be elite defensively as a winger).

    I’ve only seen him play in international competition. I’m not going to make up a story about how a friend of a friend of a second cousin saw him play because they had Leksands season tickets or that I flew to Sweden and happened to see him play a bunch of times. If he had the skills that the scouts(again always unnamed) are raving about, he would have the offensive production coupled with it.

    There’s more than this to drafting(maturity, physical development, work ethic, health) but with an elite pick, you take an elite player, not a guy who’s more likely to contribute sooner albeit with less impact.

    • Ali says:

      I just compared his stats to Mika Zibanejad, and I think Mika wass a better offensively, more physically mature player and he went 6th last year. It was also maybe a better draft overall. Obviously this is all just on paper, have not seen him play so can’t speak to him more than just what i can google.

      • TomNickle says:

        The big difference between the two players is that Zibanejad was showing promise in the actual SEL, not the relegated division.

        Zibanejad’s offensive production at the SEL level was only 5% lower than Forsberg’s in the Allsvenskan. 9 points in 26 games compared to 17 in 43.

        Zibanejad increased his production this year, and that’s to be expected, but it wasn’t a significant rise either.

        I compare Grigrenko v. Forsberg to Couturier v. Zibanejad.

        One’s looking a hell of a lot better than the other right now.

        • Ali says:

          Based on what I’ve read, I think Forsberg is likely to be a gritty top six forward, but doubt remains if he can be elite first line. Grigorenko has all the tools, but the mental side is questioned (I think a lot of this has to do with his passport).

          I’d rather go with the guy who has the tools to be elite and just needs the push to learn how to BE elite. I go with Grigorenko.

          • TomNickle says:

            Yep. Take the guy who can be elite with an elite pick. Leave the good guy for the team with the good pick.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Tom, I can’t see anyone provoking you on this site between now and draft day. ;-)

      • TomNickle says:

        Definitely a poor choice of words. Always the victim.

        • HabinBurlington says:

          No worries my friend! I agree on Forsberg, but I also have virtually never seen him play aside from the Worlds. I do trust Timmins ability to make the choice for our team. Your analysis makes sense based on the numbers. However, if end of day Timmins ends up taking Forsberg I will assume he has seen something in his game that haven’t shown up in the stats.

    • shiram says:

      Forsberg sounds like a slightly better Louis Leblanc.

    • jon514 says:

      He’s often compared to Peter Forsberg (you figure out why), but the thing is, MODO was not in a relegated league and Forsberg’s numbers were through the roof in comparison. Maybe he is young, but he is not yet in the same solar system as Peter Forsberg… I hope we don’t take him because we will ruin him.

    • LizardKing12 says:

      it is important to note however, that Forsberg is one year younger than the other players in the draft. One year can make a big difference in a players development.

      I can’t argue that it isn’t all that impressive to put up the numbers he has in the relegated SEL. I agree that all these anonymous scouts are to be taken with a grain of salt. What caught my attention though is how fond of Forsberg Timmins appeared to be in his interview at the combine. I have a lot of faith in Trevor Timmins. He is one of the best heads of amateur scouting in the league and if he thinks that Forsberg has the tools to become an elite talent in the NHL then I trust him. I would love to see Galchenyuk picked at #3 as he has shown that he can produce at an elite level in the OHL but once again I have faith that Timmins will pick the best player out there.

  24. The Dude says:

    Thank the Hockey Gods the Franco Canadiens are back and so is the french Passion! And now ,on to roster changes……tres bien!

    • shiram says:

      French passion? we don’t want no romantic diner by the candle light! :p

    • habstrinifan says:

      You dont sound very acknowleding of the contributions of any other ‘ethnic’ influences on habs history. Hope you are inclined to a variety of influences in your everyday world.

      Having said that, Sylvan Lefebvre is highy thought of around NHL circles and this seems like a great hire and Jodoin is considered a great X’ and O’s guy which Therrien is not.. so he could be a very valuable assistant.

  25. LA Loyalist says:

    Quick notes on LA Kings victory parade tomorrow if any of you are interested:

    They gave away 18,000 free tickets for the Staples Center rally tomorrow, mainly to season ticket holders, and many are already showing up on E-Bay for $100.

    The parade route promises to re-enact the route of the ’94 riots, and street closures will start at 4 am.

    It is unknown if Rodney King will come out to center ice and have his head bashed (ceremoniously) by one of the Kings players.

    The buzz over the Kings win is unbelievable, of course it helps that Lakers are out of the basketball playoffs.

    Though I am not a Kings fan, I think that the win is ultimately good for hockey in the U.S. as this is the media capital and Angelenos presume that what flies in L.A. will fly all over the U.S. – mainly because they don’t want to have to schlepp out to Minnesota or Kansas and actually have to talk to any flyover people.

    A lot like the politicians, actually.

    If anything interesting happens tomorrow, I’ll post it.

  26. Jan_pronounced_Yan says:

    I was never a fan of Brisebois, but I admit that he got a bum rap here in Montreal. He was overpaid because the organization didn’t bring in enough talent to allow Brisebois to be played as a second-pairing guy with PP time. That’s not his fault. He was a turnover machine and didn’t play a physical game at all, but he was a decent puck-mover who could contribute offensively. You don’t play 1000 games in the NHL without being able to bring something to a team.

    I will say that my respect for him grew exponentially when he came back to the Habs. After all the crap he went through, I was very impressed that he chose to come back. I think his hiring can be beneficial if he is going to help players with the off-ice aspects of playing in Montreal. On the ice, I don’t know enough about him as an instructor to have an opinion.

  27. Cal says:

    Have a look at the one the Habs traded instead of the Breeze-By.

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=1339

  28. That's-Hockey says:

    First of all I don’t have anything against the french people. I’ve been in Montreal many times and they treated me the finest, they are great people. all I hope now by going with all french coaches the team will have better results on the ice.
    regards to management. we can only wait and see how and what changes they’ll make to the team where we can compete every game unlike the 2011-2012 team. coaches don’t mean diddly squat if they don’t have players with talent. we should have learned our lesson with a team that finished in 28th place in the league and the main reason for that. a one line team can’t compete every game….

  29. EastCoastJoe says:

    Clearly these hirings are all part of MB’s master plan for drafting Nathan MacKinnon in ’13. Well done.

  30. habsguru says:

    Brisebois also mentored several young players along the way, not how to play D, but how to conduct themselves, handle media, and eat properly when on the road. Was he #19… no, but who else is? He will contribute, wait and see.

  31. issie74 says:

    Why is a drafted 6.0 considered to be too small.They are 17-18 year old boys,who are still growing.

    NorthTOHab

  32. habsfan0 says:

    I’m a bit confused. It says Clement Jodoin is being interviewed for an assistant coaching position on Therrien’s staff. What if the interview goes badly, and Jodoin doesn’t get the job? His position in Hamilton has already been filled by Lefebvre.

    • jmsheehy19 says:

      I was thinking that as well. I’m guessing the interview is going to be more of a formality, like it’s Jodoin’s job to lose, not to win.

      At least I hope so. Wouldn’t see the logic in just casting him away.

  33. Habsrule1 says:

    Brisebois had a better than average career with mediocre talent & skills. People started to have fun slagging him and it has never ended.
    In my opinion, those people have no idea what they are talking about.

    Go Habs Go!!

    “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • petefleet says:

      I was in MTL for a game one time when they were booing him everytime he touched the puck. It was disgraceful. Check his stats, I think alot of people are goingto be suprised at where Breeze By is on the all time Habs D men list. I believe he had alot of guts to play in MTL when he was treated so badly for so long. It’s not like he was Gomer or anything.

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    • New says:

      He got a bum rap. Consistently he would have a brain-fart per game, probably tunnel vision, but he was an otherwise solid performer who never played mean. If you look at the actual events you come to realize that a segment of the fanbase bullied him always. That doesn’t say much about Brisbois, other than he was all classy in his response, but it says an awful lot about the crowd.

  34. Hobie Hansen says:

    Sylvain Lefebvre, Nice!

    Classy stay-at-home defenseman. Wish Montreal never let him go back in the day.

    Wish him well as our coach in Hamilton!

  35. commandant says:

    Brisebois biggest problem was the way he was used.

    He played on very poor Habs teams, and became the #1 defenceman almost by default.

    If he was the #3 defenceman and we kept Desjardins, Schneider and Brisebois together, people would have a lot better memories of him.

    He just was a very good 2nd pairing guy, but was inadequate to be the best defenceman on a team. Forced into that role by our 90s management.

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    • TomNickle says:

      That seems to be the indictment of him. He wasn’t Robinson.

      • LA Loyalist says:

        You are right on, Tom. I would add that Robinson wasn’t “Robinson” initially either, and it would serve coaches, management and the rest of us to remember that as they groom Tinordi, Ryan Murray (SPOILER ALERT) and others – including PK, who is still developing.

        The task of building our D properly over the next 2-3 years might be the 2nd most important thing we need to do, second only to getting a stud Male #1 center.

    • Timo says:

      I will always remember him for his hair and his glorious outlet pass.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Thank you commandant. A fair and accurate evaluation of the player and the times.

      I have good memories of Sylvan Lefebvre, also. Best to him in Steel Town.

    • issie74 says:

      Brisebois was a beautiful skater.Not every player needs to be a bone-crusher.

      NorthTOHab

  36. Timo says:

    Habs invented the time machine and going back in time. Therrien, Jodoin… argh. All then need to do now is bring Mario Trembley back and voila – Stanley Cup 2098 here we come.

  37. ProHabs says:

    “No Brisebois was never effective. Opposing teams had scoring chances every time that he was on the ice due exclusively to his terrible defensive play.”

    Best quote of the day made so far courtesy of TomNickle

    • TomNickle says:

      And it took you quoting me for you to spell his name properly. Well done!

      • ProHabs says:

        At least you know how to spell his name correctly. However, more importantly, I know how to evaluate a good defenceman which Brisbois was not.

        TomNickle saying Brisbois was a good defenceman = Berkshire saying Gomez is a good forward

        • TomNickle says:

          There it is champ. You’re saying Brisebois wasn’t a good defenseman. Which by the standards reasonable people have is a statement that should be considered incorrect.

          Because a good defenseman is exactly what Brisebois was. He wasn’t great, he was good.

          • Mr. Biter says:

            I’ a little surprised the Brisebois would want to come back here they way he was treated by Bell Center Fans, but a paycheck is a paycheck. I wonder how he will be treated when they announce him as an asst. coach at the beginning of the 1st game.

            Mr. Biter
            No Guts No Glory

          • Thomas Le Fan says:

            Tom, you’re debating people who seem to actually believe that a player who got to play in the NHL for 18 years and over a thousand games was not a good defenceman. Gomez is another fraud, obviously. Probably bribed the team that drafted him. Logic has no effect on some people. Welcome to pro sports and HIO, where if you’re not the best, you’re the worst.

  38. TomNickle says:

    Please forgive me for the ill tempered rant but here it goes.

    The fairly significant group of people who were down on Patrice Brisebois when he was a Hab were spoiled to have great defensemen within this organization for the years immediately prior to his arrival.

    He earned the name Breeze-By because he was passive defensively. That by no stretch makes him bad. When opposing forwards would gain the offensive zone on the rush he would never step up to inflict a check or to take away space. He religiously kept them to the outside, and there’s the reason for the nickname.

    Hal Gill plays and has played that way. Andrei Markov, Rafael Diaz, Josh Gorges plays that way.

    Seems to me that if you aren’t landing a thunderous bodycheck regularly as a member of the Habs you’re soft or not good defensively in the eyes of the less experienced or knowledgeable fans.

    The ones who stand up and give a standing ovation for the big check that took the checking player fourty feet out of position and lead to a goal for the opposition.

    • Cal says:

      Serge Savard played that way, but he was extremely effective doing it. Brisebois never was.

      • TomNickle says:

        No Brisebois was never effective. Opposing teams had scoring chances every time that he was on the ice due exclusively to his terrible defensive play.

        Thank you for making my point by the way. When comparing Brisebois to Savard you’re comparing a good player to a hall of famer.

        So I guess Brisebois should write a letter of apology to YOU for not being one of the best defensemen to ever play in the NHL.

        • Cal says:

          Why do you defend so poor a representative of the Habs historic D corps? Everyone thought he had the pictures to blackmail the coaches the general manager while he was here (for way too long in my opinion). HIs ludicrous $4mil/yr salary was the icing on the cake. Many fans looked at his salary and found Breeze-By to be lacking in most defensive facets of the game.

          • TomNickle says:

            There it is again Cal. The weak uninformed argument born out of personal dislike. Your comments are nearly exclusive to fan perception and historical greatness at the position within the franchise.

            Will Craig Rivet go to the Hall of Fame? Hell no. Was he a bad defenseman? Hell no.

            Everyone thought he had pictures to blackmail the coaches? He contributed offensively at a terrific pace for his era of prime years and was adequate to good defensively at the time too.

            It’s easier to jump on a bandwagon than it is to evaluate a player for yourself and hold your own opinions though isn’t it.

          • Cal says:

            @TN- you ever watch him play?
            Your arguments for how well he played ring false. I saw Breeze-By’s laughable skills over a too-long career.

          • TomNickle says:

            Did I ever see him play? That’s the next argument?

            The answer to that is yes. His entire career and years well prior to him Cal.

            You may have seen Brisebois play, but judging by your opinion, you saw what you wanted to.

          • habsfan0 says:

            I guess it all comes down to how high..or how low..you want to set the bar in judging someone’s on ice performance.

    • commandant says:

      Sadly its not just Hab fans, there are a ton of Leaf fans who think Dion Phaneuf and Luke Schenn are good defensively.

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      • habsfan0 says:

        Brian Burke would heartily concur.

        • petefleet says:

          I would disagree with that. I think BB knows exactly what he’s got, and loses sleep at night because of it. Truculence, hahaha.

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    • ProHabs says:

      Please don’t say that that Brisbois played the same way as Markov or Gorges. That is craziness. Brisbois got the name Breeze-by because whenever an opposing player went to get around him, Brisbois would try to turn around or push him off the puck and fall onto the ice. If you have the ESPN Classic station or the NHL Network, go watch some of the past games and you will see first hand.

      • TomNickle says:

        First of all, their style of defending when moving backwards from a skating perspective(the most important factor) is comparable.

        Second, it’s Patrice Brisebois.

    • habsfan0 says:

      If I boo Brisebois’ selection to the Habs staff, does that mean Bob Gainey will hop on a plane from Dallas and personally lambaste me?

      Brisebois and Timo are 2 happy campers today.

      Can MAB be far behind?

    • Garbo says:

      Brisebois sucks.

    • Habsrule1 says:

      We found something we agree on Tom. Many people, including friends and people whose hockey opinion I respect were always very hard on Breezer.
      I never thought he was that bad. It seemed every mistake he made was commented on, even though other players made as many or more.
      The man played over 1000 NHL games and not just because his coaches liked him. He was not spectacular but if he was as bad as people say, he’d be about a minus 150 over his career. Being even is not great, but he played a good offensive game which translated into some difficulties defensively.
      He was a class act off the ice and I would bet his teammates liked him a lot.
      I personally feel he made one heluva career out of mediocre skills & talent.

      Go Habs Go!!

      “Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

    • LA Loyalist says:

      We, collectively, as fans, were quite unfair to Brisebois. As Tom says, he was good, not great, and he certainly had his limitations.

      But you have to look at the context in which he played. If he had had strong defensive D partners it would have been a better situation.

      We sort of have a clean sheet of paper for the new season (or at least we will after Gomez is gone and the draft decision has been made).

      A good example is RC being thrown in as coach and instantly undermined by the term “interim”. The guy was doomed, did his best on a pretty much sh*t team (remember he barely had a practice before he had to coach a game) and then gets criticized up down and sideways.

      Going forward, let’s try and be a bit more fair and look at context before we throw a rope over the branch.

  39. ProHabs says:

    You guys are funny. When Brisbois played for the Habs everyone was all over him for how terrible he was. Now, many are defending him and saying what a good defenceman he was.

    Lets not kid ourselves. Brisbois is a nice guy and congrats to him on his new position. But when he was out on the ice playing defence for the Habs, he was awful. One of the worst defenceman to play for the team.

  40. frontenac1 says:

    Agreed 100% Cal! He didn’t get the name”Breeze-by”for nothing. He sucked Big Time! I don’t believe he will cause damage in his new position,however. Hola!

  41. joeybarrie says:

    I see everyone is very excited to see Brisebois, Lapointe and Lefebvre joining the Habs.
    I am curious to why.
    Lefebvre was an assistant coach to an AHL team that didnt make the playoffs. He was an assistant coach to a team that didnt make the playoffs for the last 2 years.
    While I do seem to like this move as i like SL. I have nothing to suggest he will be a good coach, but people are so very happy with this decision.
    I guess I just dont see WHY these are such great moves, and wonder if we are simply happy with movement.
    I can’t figure out why Joe Sacco is not a good coach, but his assistant is. 6 playoff games in Sacco’s entire career.
    Maybe im just too negative today.
    Nothing bad about Brisebois.
    Im just surprised by all the optimism in here right now, especially given MT as head coach was so universally disagreed with, despite his success especially compared to the others we hired today.

    Again, dont get me wrong. I like all these additions. I am just surprised no one else has hit the panic button and said. Well there goes the season again. Mostly cause although i like the moves, I dont know enough about these guys as coaches or management to say whether its good or bad.

  42. Xkhann says:

    Could this also open the door for a potential blockbuster deal with the Avalanche bringing over one of either Duchesne or Stastny from Colorado?? Desharnais, Kaberle, 2013 2nd rounder for either or?

  43. ed lopaz says:

    the fact that Phoenix did not move to Quebec City has opened the flood gates to these hirings, especially Lefebvre. We would not have had access to all of these guys if a Quebec City franchise had been confirmed.

    My argument against Habs management these past few seasons was centred around the fact that there is no salary cap at the management level.

    therefore, it stands to reason that the rich teams, like the Habs, should hire many more qualified and experienced “suits”.

    These jobs pay peanuts compared to the 65 million in players payroll.

    These are $50,000-$100,000 per year positions.

    Maybe Lefebvre will get a little more than $100,000 I would imagine as he’s got a Head coaching position.

    So kudos to the owner for opening his wallet.

    And good work being done grabbing some local guys who can do the job very effectively.

    There is actually some common sense in the Habs front office!!

    There’s “method to the madness” and we’re on our way back up the standings!!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      If indeed Quebec does eventually get a team, I hope we are not developing a Head Coach for them Ed.

      • ed lopaz says:

        I think Roy will take that position in Quebec City because it will certainly be offered to him, along with any level of decision making he needs to make him happy.

        But Lefebvre would have probably gone with Roy in some capacity.

        Brisebois as well.

        And maybe Lapointe.

      • joeybarrie says:

        I think we are developing people for the NHL. No one should stand in the way of a person trying to make it. And timing is everything. People will come and people will go. Some will stay with us and some will move on to other positions that are open.
        In this case i guess the Avs developed a coach for our AHL team. Its got to go both ways.
        How could we have possibly kept Cunneyworth, Boucher, Muller, Jodoin, Martin, etc, etc, etc and still get more new talent?

  44. Psycho29 says:

    Great moves……I like the direction the organization is going.
    Already an improvement over the years of the Gauthier regime.
    Although I will miss him calling everyone “Mister” ;-)

  45. cuzzie says:

    Great Moves. There is no salary cap for management. The kids in Hamilton are going to be well prepared before they play for the Habs.

    Stay Thirsty My Friends!

  46. commandant says:

    Having a former Dman run the dogs is really important with Beaulieu, Tinordi, Ellis, etc…

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    • HabinBurlington says:

      Sure is nice to see the organization make decisions that appear to be well thought out isn’t it Ben? To me it feels like this team just had all the lights replaced at the Head Office and suddenly people see wow, we have all these empty desks which could have people working at.

      • Mattyleg says:

        Maybe Gillette wanted to run an economically tighter ship than we were aware of.

        —Hope Springs Eternal—

        • savethepuck says:

          And then PG was too stubborn or pig headed to surround himself with this many hockey minds. I agree that Molson seems to have no problem taking on all these extra salaries. I am sure it is something that was discussed with MB and approved by Molson during the interview process.

          “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
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        • HabinBurlington says:

          I think Gillette was a good owner in principle, but he definitely didn’t have deep pockets. He had to sell the Habs to save his other franchise interests. I liked the morale he brought. But I also think PG probably is the bigger reason for the apparant “shortage” in these areas. Hindsight has shown us, he really wanted complete control of everything, the less people the less to control.

    • shiram says:

      I get the feeling that Bergevin is stocking up the coaches shelve, with all these new people having new jobs or taking over old ones. I like this. It’s reinforcing my belief in the temporary postion of Therrien.

    • jon514 says:

      It sounds like Molson has handed a book of blank cheques to MB and said make us an organization which spends money like it wants to be the best in the league.

  47. jon514 says:

    Sorry for my ignorance guys… What does a player development coach do? Who did we have in the past in a similar role?

  48. HabinBurlington says:

    Adding to what Tom Nickle said below, I think the hiring of Lefebvre, Lapointe and Brisebois is excellent work by MB. Specifically Lefebvre, as this is MB culitivating a future head coach for the Habs.

    Given Sylvain has tremendous playing experience and has AHL/NHL Asst. coach experience, realistically he could be a candidate for the Habs job in 2 years if the need for change arises.

    With these moves taking place, my wandering mind really believes MB looked at the current coach (MT) as someone to instill hard work and development of the current roster. Seems to me MB may have long term plans with Lefebvre.

    Either way, this addition of former players who have experience from multiple different organizations seems fresh and new.

  49. Whatever says:

    Patrice Brisebois as development coach. Well, they say that those that can’t do, teach. Maybe he’s there to teach the prospects how to deal with the fans and media when they think you suck.

    • Clay says:

      Patrice was a better player than he gets credit for. The main problem is that a lot of fans in Montreal are @$$ holes.

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      • Cal says:

        I especially loved the way he’d fall on his ass at the other team’s blue line while awaiting a pass, or when an opposing forward would deke him and he’d fall on his ass, or when he’d try to clear the front of his net and he’d be pushed onto his ass. Brisebois: terrible Dman who is encrusted with teflon.
        People around here think Kaberle is bad; Brisebois was the prototype.

        • Clay says:

          As K-Hab pointed out below (one of the few things we agree on), he played over 1000 games in the NHL, with over 400 points. He is a better player than you are, certainly.

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          • Cal says:

            For a pro NHL Dman, he left a lot to be desired. Soft as putty with the small upside of getting a few points. And a +/- over his career of even.
            He may be a better player than I ever was, but so what. I was never paid the fortune he was to suck so bad.

        • TomNickle says:

          Encrusted with teflon? You as much as the most delusional seem to enjoy creating your own version of reality.

          • Cal says:

            I remember Breeze-By cost the Habs plenty of games with his soft as butter play. The following is what he should have been doing instead of playing hockey:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYCOqRu3gIA

          • TomNickle says:

            Funny I remember Brisebois scoring 6 points in 10 playoff games for the Habs in 07-08 as a 36 year old defenseman well beyond his best playing years.

            Was he a great defenseman? No. He was an excellent defenseman offensively who in his best years was good defensively as well. Not great, but good. Did he make the occasional gaff? Yes, but what player doesn’t?

            Funny I recall only a handful of members on this site who were down on Hamrlik(I was included) when he was putting pucks into his own net like THAT was his job.

            Brisebois contributed mightily to this team over the years and deserves to be employed by the organization.

            He handled fan ire with the utmost class and our prospects will be well served to learn how to deal with fair weather fans like you who turn on a player at the sight of a mistake.

        • K-hab25 says:

          You people are funny. When you get a hate on for somebody, facts are no longer important, just your distorted view of reality.

          Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007

    • HabinBurlington says:

      I know you are being a bit sarcastic (which is fine, I love sarcasm) but really, who better to help the young players with how to deal with the scrutiny of playing in Montreal. Breezer has been through it all in Montreal, and he also watched as the GM (Gainey) took to defending him to the public and media. Seems to me having input from Brisebois can’t be a bad thing.

    • K-hab25 says:

      Wow!! Over a thousand games played in the NHL, with over 400 points as a defenseman and he “can’t do.” Ya, ok!!

      Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007

    • habsavvy says:

      or maybe he’s there to show Dmen how to giveaway the puck.

  50. Kimberly2u says:

    Patrice brisebois & Martin Lapointe hired in player development and Sylvain Lefebvre named coach of Bulldogs

  51. Ron says:

    I had coffee this morning at a local Tims wth a friend that is security at the Saint John Airport here. He sat and talked to Beaulieu as he waited for his flight to Montreal. Nathan told him he was very happy to sign the entry level contract and pumped as hell to get started at the next level. He has talked to him on other occasions the last couple of years but he said Nathan was so happy this time around more so than on other chats. Sounds like we as Habs fans have a lot to look forward to from Nathan.

    My buddy also spoke to Gallant alot and when last talking to him he said he would like to be in Montreal coaching if things work out but could see himself in Dallas. Gallant did not go any further with that conversation. Heres hoping Montreal is his target.

    • savethepuck says:

      Nathan is probably pumped because singing an entry level contract makes him realize he’s a lot closer to his dream of playing in the NHL. The 900K must also be a heck of an incentive for him to bust his ass to make it to the NHL as soon as he can.
      I’m in Quispam, what part of the city are you from Ron?

      “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
      Carey Price

  52. RiverviewCanadien says:

    There is no way Crosby is in play. PIT would be silly to trade him. But damn I would give away anything to get him. Well not Pacioretty, ’cause those two guys would kick ass playing on the same line.

    Crosby will be the player he was, and then some. People are nuts to think he will never be the same.

    • K-hab25 says:

      Not Pacioretty, seriously? We’re talking about the best hockey player in the world. By Pac’s, have a safe trip to Pittsburgh. :)

      Proud Pricebot since 2006/2007

    • Clay says:

      Anyone can be traded. If he doesn’t want to sign with the Pens again (speculation, not a rumor – he may or may not want to) then they would be stupid not to move him.

      __________________________
      ☞ The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool. ~ Richard Feynman ☜

  53. TomNickle says:

    People who have been beating down the doors for a new Guy Boucher, you’ve got it in Sylvain Lefebvre.

    He’s a former Hab, obviously bilingual, he’s been an assistant in Colorado for three years and runs development programs of his own in the summertime.

  54. That's-Hockey says:

    Crosby: If you want to listen to rumors – there’s a one going around that he’s signing with Pittsburgh I don’t know for how long or how much just a rumor no confirmation….

  55. commandant says:

    Lefebvre hiring as Bulldogs coach official
    http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=634611

    Brisebois and Lapointe hirings for player development official
    http://canadiens.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=634610

    Go Habs Go!
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    • TomNickle says:

      Do I get to take credit for speculating about Sylvain Lefebvre for the Habs position if he’s hired to coach the Bulldogs?

      • Un Canadien errant says:

        Good job mentioning him as a candidate. I had no idea he was still around coaching in the league.

        He reminds me of a better time, when we used to have a bounty of defencemen in the farm system ready to be called up, we always had a Donald Dufresne or a Larry Robinson or a Lyle Odelein to add to the mix. That’s where we need to get back to.

        ———————————
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  56. arcosenate says:

    Doesn’t sound like the Habs will be in the Parise sweepstakes, which is too bad, he’s a very good hockey player. Having said that, what other UFA’s are out there we should be looking at?

    • TomNickle says:

      Physical and defensively sound defensemen. Two of them if they want to make the playoffs.

      Jay Mcclement too.

      Shane Doan.

      That’s it. If you can’t get what you want off of that list or comparable players at good prices, don’t bother wasting the money.

    • RobertAlanFord says:

      This years UFA market is a good opportunity to bulk up your bottom six forwards and last three Dmen. Which is exactly what the Canadiens need right now. No more Diaz’s or Nokelainen’s.

  57. Howe93 says:

    I really hope the draft goes well and we get a player that is really going to boost the team we still need more size and a big center would be sweet

  58. TomNickle says:

    I don’t know if it was mentioned yesterday but the Devils are opting to keep this year’s first round selection. Very odd that they’re choosing to do so, perhaps Lou’s thinking he’s going to retire soon and will do it prior to when the forfeiture takes place.

    On the development camp. Just seeing all of these blue chip defenseman, one would have to think that the Habs taking a defenseman at this coming draft in the first round would be a huge upset under any circumstances.

  59. PrimeTime says:

    Too bad these camps are open to the public. If I was MB I would restrict the Media to certain times when they will have access to these young players. MB should know better than to subject these guys to all the speculation the media will surely conjure up. The Media needs to be more controlled in this new era. I know most will not agree with me but I personally feel the players need to focus on hockey and be sheltered from “the circus”. This should also be carried through the regular season.

    • TomNickle says:

      I don’t think I understand this. You want the development camp to have no media access because the media will conjure up stories?

      The prospects aren’t a big of enough deal to the casual fan for members of the media to begin creating speculation about them in an effort to get a few new viewers or sell a few more papers. I’m not sure how it’s a detriment to the players to have the media there either. These kids do need to focus on hockey but when they’re on the ice they’ll have maybe a dozen reporters on hand, if that. It isn’t as if they’ll be interrupting a drill because they’re staring at Dave Stubbs in the stands.

      Also, any taste of the media they can get while at the development camp will only make them more comfortable down the road. It isn’t as if they’re going to be asked about anything controversial.

    • Mike Boone says:

      That’s what fans want: Less coverage. Just let the team bang out a couple press releases and call it a day. You’ve have loved the sports section in Pravda.

      Mike Boone
      Hockey Inside/Out blogger
      Gazette City columnist
      mboone@montrealgazette.com

  60. Howe93 says:

    I really hope the draft goes well the team need to continue to get bigger and stronger

    Shaun

  61. 24 Cups says:

    You would be hard pressed to find anyone who doesn’t feel Yakupov isn’t the consensus #1 pick. Everything I have read has him at the top. With that in mind, it really comes down to Columbus in terms of who will be left for the Habs at #3.

    • Ozmodiar says:

      Yeah, Yakupov isn’t sliding to 3. Mind you, if I had to pick 2 teams who were the most likely to pass on Yakupov it would be Edm and Clb. Even so, I’d say there’s no chance they both pass on him.

      I think the Habs are hoping Murray goes top 2.

      • TomNickle says:

        I think they’ll be happy with whoever they take, but having the choice between Grigorenko, Galchenyuk and Forsberg(if they’re serious about him) is probably ideal for them as you say.

  62. jon514 says:

    Hamilton is gonna be awesome next year with all the new blood.

    Tinordi seems to take longer to move up a level but dominates once he adjusts, so I look for him to play a 3rd or 4th role in Hamilton in his 1st year and on the top pair in his 2nd.

    Beaulieu and Ellis might actually start as the top 2 D next year.

    Gallagher and Holland will probably start on the 2nd or 3rd line, but I expect a rapid ascent for Gallagher in particular.

  63. novahab says:

    Word out of Cole Harbour is Crosby is in play. The Pens want to keep Staal but can’t keep all three. Problem is how will Crosby hold up, The Pens want a top draft pick to replace his lost at a much cheaper price. It would be a block buster for the new GM, but I think the risk is way to high.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Damaged goods now my friend! He will never be what he was.

      • 123456 says:

        8 pts in the first round is not too shabby – yes it’s a risk but i would do it. if he goes down long term there is cap relief. look at hte past 10 years – there are a lot of first round picks i’d trade for crosby.

      • savethepuck says:

        Damaged goods or not I’d tade our 3rd overall for The Kid in a freaking heartbeat. The problem would be making Cap room for him.

        “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
        Carey Price

        • Clay says:

          Gomez gone, problem nearly solved.

          __________________________
          ☞ The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool. ~ Richard Feynman ☜

    • 24 Cups says:

      That’s strange as another rumour has him signing a 10 year, 90M contract with the Pens.

  64. Ian Cobb says:

    Where is the draft taking place this year???

  65. HabinBurlington says:

    Hopefully this development camp gets the youngsters pumped about one day joining the Habs. I am especially happy about the fact we now have people like Mellanby around to talk to the kids. I am sure the young guys will notice a different feel at this camp from previous ones without PG and his set of rules. Hopeful that this has a positive affect on the unsigned players like Kristo, such that their desire to stay in the Montreal system and eventually sign.

    Oh yah, Go Deutschland!

  66. TomNickle says:

    I love your reply.

    “No, he was weak”. – False
    “He was French so he had a perm seat on defence” – Also False
    “Statistically as well he sucked” – Egregiously False

  67. jmsheehy19 says:

    “Statistically as well he sucked.”

    1000 games played and 420 points during a career that spanned the better part of two decades. Define “sucked.”

  68. HardHabits says:

    It turns out though that people who are crappy at a sport often tend to be the better coaches and trainers. It’s true in many disciplines not just sports. It’s like bassists. Sometimes the best bassists are frustrated guitarists.

  69. TomNickle says:

    They tend to have a firm grasp on why they weren’t successful in areas of weakness.

  70. TomNickle says:

    Classy. And I’m an Ontario resident with no French in my blood.

  71. TomNickle says:

    You replied in the wrong spot. Players who lace up for over 1000 games don’t suck.

    I just told you otherwise, what are you gonna do about it?


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