Audio: Detroit captain Lidstrom ill, game-time decision tonight

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Red Wings captain Nicklas Lidstrom.
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PREGAME AUDIO: Coach Mike Babcock

The big news out of the Detroit Red Wings’ morning skate: captain Nicklas Lidstrom skated only part of the session then left early. The team says he’s ill and will be a game-time decision.

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  1. Ian Cobb says:

    Live blogging page? says I do not have permission to access this page?????

  2. Psycho29 says:

    Posted by: HabFanSince72 JANUARY 25, 2012 AT 1:07 PM
    “Has anyone bought scalped tickets lately? How much are they going for? I hear they’re not selling out.”

    My brother in law bought a ticket from a scalper a few weeks ago 2 rows above where the visiting team exits. He paid $100; so it was probably half price.. (I’m not sure what they would go for.)
    The trick is to wait until about 5 minutes before game time, when they try to unload the unsold tickets…

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      I remember going to the Expos games with my buddies as a kid and there was often some side door wide open and we’d get in for free.

      We’d joke around all the time about the Expos games being free. If you had 15-20 bucks for the metro, hot dog and pop that’s all you’d need.

      Come to think of it, we used to walk to the upper deck and find pop machines left on and refill our pops for free too lol.

  3. HabinBurlington says:

    Okay so after reading all responses below to my Gomez point

    GOMEZ SUCKS….(weird don’t feel better having said that)

  4. youngwun says:

    Diaz going to the rookie ASG!

    MTL4Life

  5. moggs says:

    Hopefully this game goes 0 – 0 into OT!

  6. HabFanSince72 says:

    So you think we have insane sports controversies here?

    “Babies will need their own tickets to go to the Olympics… even if they were conceived AFTER parents bought seats”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2091141/London-2012-Olympics-Babies-need-tickets-to-Games.html


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  7. HabinBurlington says:

    To all the Gomez haters (99.9% of posters here I am guessing), Since his most recent return from the injured list, I think he has actually played very effectively. This doesn’t mean the team should keep him beyond this year, but it would only serve the team well if he continues with his recent stronger performances.

    I really fail to see the benefit in constantly posting Gomez Sucks (Cue the reply of “Gomez Sucks”).

    Rant over.

    • JayK-47 says:

      I think G-Love is pretty freakin’ AWESOME. That speed, those passes. If only PG had the chutzpah to trade for talent that could read Gomez, really understand him, and go to those mysterious places that he passes to, well, our Habs might finish a season 82 and 0 for once.

      If only….

      • Les Canayens says:

        LOL… to those mysterious places that he passes to (PassToNowhere™ S.Gomez©2011)

        Oh did they brought in his buddy Gionta precisely for that?

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    • krob1000 says:

      NEver disliked Gomez but knew it was the worst contract in hockey and hated the trade….from the instant it was made. I might have been able to survive it had we still had Mcdonagh and been the team also receiving the first round pick/top prospect….the cap hit as you well know has been crippling and in combination with markov the lack of performance by a a fifth of our cap hit (those two players) has been the largest contributing factors to our seasons the last couple of years.

    • soperman says:

      No, but it sucks that Gomez is being paid $7 million. I see his value, it just doesn’t match his salary.

    • shiram says:

      It’s getting redundant and childish, like all the smurf stuff, heck even the HIO staff is starting to call the Habs player smurf.

    • habs03 says:

      I don’t think 99.95 of people hate Gomez, I for one think he is a great person, seems well liked and respected in the locker-room. I would go as far as saying I really is trying his best. Heck I don’t know how you don’t call him a winner, with 2 cup rings, and up until now, he and the team that he has played for, has made the playoffs every year. BUT at some point enough is enough, at 7.3M you expect an impact player. I’m fine with Gomez staying on this team up until this point, because his cap hit hasn’t affect us, but beyond this season, teams needs to find get his 7.3M cap hit out.

      • RGM says:

        You are sadly mistaken if you think that $7.3M cap hit hasn’t affected this team. Trading for Gomez instantly took the Habs out of the Gaborik sweepstakes and allowed the Rangers to sign him. The $7M plus that is locked up means that the Habs cannot go out and sign two pretty players (a $4m and a $3m) or a really good player ($6M-$7M) during summer free agency, and instead have to settle for spare parts like Campoli. It meant that James Wisniewski was allowed to walk without an offer even being tendered. Until the contract is resolved, one way or another, it will continue to affect this team and truly hinder it from being successful.

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    • HabFanSince72 says:

      I don’t remotely hate Gomez – but I recognize that he is no longer able to perform at a very high level in this league. I would go so far as saying he ought to retire.


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • Phil C says:

      Gomez is an interesting case because even though his stats are in decline, he still seems to have all the tools (ie speed, puck handling, elusiveness, etc) that made him good in the past, and his corsi numbers support this. I just watched one of his highlight packages on youtube and the biggest thing I noticed was that he used to go to the net A LOT more than he does as a Hab. He would pass or shoot after crossing the blueline, then go to the net to get loose pucks. Sometimes he would skate through everyone to the net. He has stopped doing that in Montreal. Can you ever remember him taking the puck to the net as a Hab like Cole does? He always stops just inside the blueline and looks for the pass or he slows down looking for the pass. With so much back-checking in the game now, it is no longer an effective play. And he takes himself out of the play because even if he makes a good pass and there is a shot, he is nowhere near the net for a rebound. It is such a fundamentally bad hockey play I want to scream every time he does it. If the Habs could somehow convince him to take the puck to the net and to continue to the net after he passes, I think his production would return. A guy like Bourque would score a tonne of goals cleaning up Gomez’s garbage.

      He also needs to play with skilled players because he is primarily a playmaker. I don’t think Montreal has done a good enough job matching him with skilled players. The Habs have a bad habit of spreading their skilled guys between three lines that has continued since JM left.

  8. ed lopaz says:

    posted on the other thread

    so Donny Cape, Larry Robinson’s good friend and agent was interviewed on the radio, and here’s the bottom line:

    Robinson’s agent has already called the Habs 3 times to inquire about coaching in Montreal

    Before this season, he was told that the coaching situation was “under control” – good one!!

    He says that if Montreal – especially now that Molson is President and owner – calls Larry – he would absolutely listen to what the Habs have to offer.

    He has told Molson this directly.

    Larry Robinson is the PERFECT FIT for this team.

    Whether as an assistant or as head coach he would turn our defence into one of the very best in the league in short order.

    Especially – Subban!!

    Larry is no nonsense – bigger than life – 9 Stanley Cups – as a player, Head Coach and Assistant coach.

    I am sure that he is on the short list to be contacted once this season is over.

    It would mean that Subban and Emelin and Diaz and all the great d-men we have in our system could be mentored by one of the top d-men to ever lace them up.

    Scott Stevens on being coached by Larry: “I never knew how to play the position before he coached me” (paraphrased)

    It MUST be done!!

    • HabinBurlington says:

      That would be great Ed. Thanks for this information, please tell me they don’t screw this up again….

    • shiram says:

      I read about that but it specified the D coach position is the one he wanted.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Even Better!

      • ed lopaz says:

        that’s fine with me – d-coaching is he specialty

        thing is – he demands and is owed respect, dedication, and commitment

        like his agent said in the interview, Subban would not be skating around in little circles outside of the group while Larry is teaching them something during a practice.

        it is exactly what Subban needs for sure.

        .

    • Chester says:

      Couldn’t agree more.
      You have to go back a ways before you get to a Habs team with a ex-D coaching the defense.
      Also when did Diaz get added to the all star roster?

    • avatar_58 says:

      I don’t know how true any of the reports/rumours are, but I can’t understand why Larry hasn’t been approached regardless. He would great to have behing the bench – under ANY capacity

      • HabFanSince72 says:

        Same with Jacques Lemaire, who wanted the job when Martin was hired.

        It would seem there was some bad blood with Bob Gainey, who snubbed them both.

        But Robinson at the age of 60 might be better as a d coach.

        I note also that he coached Gomez and Gionta to Stanley Cup wins.


        Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

        • G-Man says:

          I’ve never seen any article or interview with Lemaire saying he wanted the Habs head coach job AFTER HE QUIT on his own. I have only heard him say the opposite. After he had coached the Wild, he expected to retire until Lamoriello called him. Even then, he only stayed for the rest of the season.

          One thing. If Larry Robinson calls about a coaching job, why in hell wasn’t he hired right away, with the details worked out later? You don’t ignore Stanley Cup winning coaches.

          • HabFanSince72 says:

            In 2009 both Lemaire and Robinson were snubbed.

            Lemaire stated that he was in contact with Gainey about the job, but never heard back from him until he read in the paper that Martin was hired.

            If you have a choice between the two Jacques, how on earth do you pick Martin?


            Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

          • powdered toastmann says:

            Why indeed…and good question. To me it seems beyond reason why (both) weren’t brought in when the opportunity presented itself (if possible).

    • jmsheehy19 says:

      Wold be fantastic for the D, and if they really want an ex hab to coach, I’d take him over Roy any day.

    • Phil C says:

      Larry Robinson did a radio interview in Ottawa after the Habs did not return his call. They asked him about communicating with players. I am paraphrasing, but he said you have to treat each person differently; an approach that works with one player does not necessarily work with another. Some players have to be yelled at, other should never be yelled at, and others you don’t need to talk to at all, for example. He gave some more examples that I can’t remember but after hearing him, I was convinced that the Habs mad a big mistake not taking his call.

  9. Sharks9 says:

    Diaz is going to the all-star game! Nice to have more than one guy there :P

    25 before 14

    • Les Canayens says:

      Good for him. Wonder in what skill competition will he be in.

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  10. ABHabsfan says:

    Regarding the TT issue: I’m not sure how many other Hab-fans or hockey fans in general really care about Thomas’ political views or whether it was improper to not show up. The real issue we are waiting with baited breath to learn, is whether or not this will cause the complete collapse of the Bruins. Isn’t that what we all want? Let’s hope they start having fights in practice, maybe a Catholic/Protestant issue; one can hope

    • HabinBurlington says:

      That is exactly what I hope this does. We all know it won’t, but if they happen to start a slump now, this will be pointed at, and a bigger issue made of it. That would be brilliant.

  11. Le Jadester says:

    WHy is it that no one since Kovy could do something like this on our team ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsdofWq1LHM

    He ripped Halak pretty good on that backhander.

    Either way, I do think AK 46 has the ability to pull it off, but for some reason he is never given the opportunity to play the halfwall on the PP, especially with his precision passing and that wrister of his ?

    Anyways, my point was Datsyuk is the $hit !

    Habs, OLE !

    • krob1000 says:

      It would be interesting to see himthere but typically that spot goes to a crafty and good in tight spaces player….Ak usually needs a head of steam with his bigger frame…Kovalev pulled it off but he may very well be the quickest tight turn guy in the history of the game…he could change direction so effortlessly D backed off for fear of being beaten. Kovy is one of the best pp guys I have ever seen….his vision and accuracy with both his shot and passes were elite…his ability to create mlanes and space with his little curl were incredible…Cammi tried it but couldn’t make the quick turn to esccape like Kovy did. If the rest of the pp were clicking and Ak were given a little more time because the pk had to respect the other side and other players more I can see it maybe working but with Dd or Gomez out there and NEVEr ebing a threat to shoot, Subbant asking too long to get the shots off, KAberle not having any one time passing option and being of little threat to shoot himself,etc …the pp is a work in progress (and that is a compliment)

      • rhino514 says:

        Actually, I don´t recall EVER seeing a Hab who can make as tight a turn as Gomez can. Thing is he only does it along the boards. I don´t think there are many players in the league who can make that move. He sure is an interesting case. He´s got great playmaking moves; they just don´t result in points anymore. People say he needs to have elite wingers but I´m not sure that´s the case. Seemed to do fine two years ago with the same quality of teamates…

  12. HabFanSince72 says:

    Has anyone bought scalped tickets lately? How much are they going for? I hear they’re not selling out.


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  13. John Q Public says:

    Please no more Thomas.
    He is the enemy and his opinions/actions are irrelevant to true Habs fan.
    We despise the Bruins therefore Thomas as well.
    Back to bitching about PK.
    You know I saw him tie his left shoelace First!

    • krob1000 says:

      That really irks me if true…he is a right hander but plays the left point on the pp sometimes…who does he think he is tying his left lace first? It is another example of his pompous entitled attitude….I wonder if Gill ( a lefty ..and veteran who has earned the right to tie which ever lace he wants first…but does things according to the unwritten “lace code”)…has confronted the young whippersnapper. For all we know this is what led to RC’s outburst on him…I mean if it is true is he worth having around the guys? What would happen if they all did this? Worse yet…what if they do all do this now (trying to emulate the once rising star)and it is all PK’s fault…..could his arrogance in lace tying actually be responsible for our season of gloom?

  14. Habsman1970 says:

    Great, so they will only some-what kick our a##es tonight now…

    (FYI, that was a joke.. Didn’t want that to start a witch-hunt ;) )

    ONCE A HAB, FOREVER A HAB!!!

  15. HabinBurlington says:

    My first suspicion was Lidstrom wanted to have All Star Break off, thus the illness. BUt looking at the All-Star roster, I realized he didn’t even make it this year, yah that makes sense….

    • krob1000 says:

      Both he and Selanne I believe requested to not be on the ballots and publicly asked fansnot to vote for them…they’ve done their time…now Ovechkin….that is another story

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Oh, cool good on them. Now that you mention that I recall Selanne doing that, didn’t realize Lidstrom as well.

        Yah, the Ovie thing, what a complete BS load that was. I would respect if he flat out said I disagree with suspension, therefore, I have no interest in going to All Star game. But to say I don’t feel good going cuz I am suspended, wah wah wah, to me he sounds like this:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04

  16. Say Ash says:

    Take it easy and get some rest, Niklas.

  17. shiram says:

    Whats the point in repeating the same things over and over?
    What has not already been said about Gomez, his play, his salary, his cap hit and his heritage?
    What more is there to say about Gomez?

  18. shiram says:

    You can talk about whatever you want, even criticize Gomez all day long, what I’m saying is there is no worth in doing so, as it’s all been said before.
    You say it’s worth repeating untill they get rid of him, do you really believe your posting on this blog will have an impact on the way PG manages his team?

  19. G-Man says:

    He’s a stand-up guy? ;)

  20. moggs says:

    He’s not lazy in my opinion. Decently defensively sound. Just absolutely no offensive production.

  21. Hobie Hansen says:

    Gomez is much more of a determent to his team than Redden is/was in New York and Souray was in Edmonton and they were both sent to the minors.

    If the Canadiens don’t do the same with Gomez it would be disturbing.

  22. RGM says:

    But his Calder Trophy says “I’m a player whom any authentic NHL coach will rely on to fix a game problem.”

    ———————–
    GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is probably not our year!
    “Scott Gomez, a potential Hall of Fame player, has two Stanley Cup rings and a Calder Trophy that says ‘I’m a player whom any authentic NHL coach will rely on to fix a game problem.’” – VancouverHab

    Chat with me on Twitter @TheRealRGM81

  23. Mattyleg says:

    Does this mean fans will be demanding that we trade him next year too?

    …because I don’t think I can deal with that…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  24. shiram says:

    Only if he puts on a Senators jersey.

  25. HabinBurlington says:

    hehe, I am hoping!!!

    Edit: I actually don’t care if he scores, he is a setup guy, if he gets 2 assists in a night, that is good. Evidently he clearly shares my perspective on not caring about scoring as evidenced by the past year LOL

  26. 123456 says:

    HA – my son got a pack of hackey cards last night and asked why PK had a hurricanes jersey on….. i was like WTF… until i remembered the skinner thing…

  27. 123456 says:

    seriously i have generally been a gomez supporter – but i think he is like that guy at skate and shoot – looks like a great skater, looks like a great shooter… but in a game he just can not bring it.

    i do like how gomez enters the zone with the puck but it just does not lead to offense as much as it should… and on the back check he is NOT good.

  28. G-Man says:

    The PK gaffe would have been prevented if he had actually used his eyes and looked instead of assuming. We all know what happens when we assume things, right?

  29. tbovs says:

    Prepare to be disturbed.


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