Desharnais: “You’ve just got to turn the page and learn from it”


(Photo: Allen McInnis, The Gazette)

Danny Brière made his on-ice debut as a Hab Thursday on a line with David Desharnais and Max Pacioretty during the first scrimmage at the Canadiens’ training camp.

A large crowd filled the stands at Brossard’s Bell Sports Complex to watch the scrimmage, which ended in a draw.

Desharnais, who is coming off a disappointing season in which he signed a four-year, $14-million contract extension, said it was fun to play on a line with Pacioretty and Brière.

The 5-foot-7 centreman has lost about five or six pounds, weighing in at 170 at training camp.

“It was my goal this summer to lose a bit of weight and get faster,” said Desharnais, adding he really worked on his explosiveness.

“It was a learning process,” Desharnais said of last season. “It was a short season. Of course, it’s frustrating. But you’ve just got to turn the page and learn from it and be ready for this season.”

Consistency is something he needs to work on, Desharnais said.

Desharnais is used to overcoming obstacles in his professional career. He wasn’t drafted into the NHL even though he put up more than 100 points in his last two seasons in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League. He led the East Coast Hockey League in points in 2007-08 and his point total in 2011-12, his first full season with the Habs, was third highest on the Canadiens.

“We want David to compete,” coach Michel Therrien said at his press conference after the morning sessions. “We want him to be David Desharnais. We want him to be at the net. We want him to be first on the puck, We want him to skate. This is how he’s got success. And he knows this.

“It’s not a matter of points, but usually when players compete hard, the results get there,” Therrien said.

Asked if that was lacking last season, Therrien said: “Last season was last season.”

Habs’ Desharnais looking to bounce back, by Brenda Branswell

Lashoff hopes to keep NHL dream alive with Canadiens, by Pat Hickey

Prust happy for help from heavyweight Parros,

“No excuses” again this season for Habs,

Price begins first camp with coach Waite,

Bob McKenzie’s take on the Canadiens,

The Hockey News preseason Habs prediction,

Briere has history of proving size isn’t everything, Stu on Sports blog

Shirtless Habs provide eye candy for female fans, Stu on Sports blog

You can listen to what goaltender Carey Price had to say after practice here:



  1. Ian Cobb says:

    That is what they want, squeeze them out, then hold a referendum, then civil war.!

    Marious said they lost the last referendum because of the ethnic vote.
    So they get rid of the ethnic vote by way of the most sophisticated ethnic cleansing since Hitler. And just call it something else.!

  2. JHW says:

    Habs are just a little bit better all around team than the Leafs but there’s no room for error in any of their games against each other!!

  3. shiram says:

    Someone complained about Price’s performance in the scrimmages yesterday, it could be worse!

  4. Bripro says:

    Am I allowed to rant about a non-related issue? Thank you!

    Look out, North America, here comes Marois and her french Nazis!

    I’m so sick of living in Quebec. The only thing keeping me here is The Canadiens.

    (Well that…. and my family and business.)

    • shiram says:

      You can, but only in a non-secular, french text.

      Jokes aside, I’m reading more and more about people wanting to separate Montreal from Québec… it sounds so stupid to me!
      But then again, I love, Montréal, Québec and Canada…

    • Propwash says:

      It’s all a smokescreen for how lousy the economy of this province is doing. The charter would never fly anyway.


    • Timo says:

      Umm… excuse me. Marois and her compadres are not “french”. They are not from France. They live in Canada. They are Canadian… francophone Canadians.

      At least this is what I retained from UCE’s lesson yesterday.

    • H.Upmann says:

      Marois and her ilk are infantile and immature. It’s too bad they get a paycheque to spout this crap.

    • Habitant in Surrey says:

      …I’m surviving as a Habs Fan very well here in BC Brian …there is even an excellent Montreal Smoke Meat Resto a hop skip and leap from My abode near the Left Sea 🙂

      …Westmount Moving is waitin’ fer Ya ta call as We speak !!!

      …join Norm, Me and My Kids fer a Bulldogs game in nearby Abbotsford in January …We” ll help with Your Family’s unpacking once the Westmount Moving truck begins to unload in Your new home in White Rock

      …call Me, and I’ll give You the contact for a real estate agent 🙂

  5. Sportfan says:

    St. Louis Blues sign Alex Pietrangelo to a seven-year, $45.5 million contract. This could become PKs contract as well maybe.

    Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!

    • Hstands4Hockey says:

      We wish. more like 8 years/60mil

      Rule #76: No Excuses, Play Like a Champion!

    • shiram says:

      Well 6.5 millions is the highest cap hit on the Habs right now (Price) and some claim Bergevin will hold an internal cap hit limit, it will be interesting to see if he breaks that cap hit limit with Subban.
      But this deal could be use as a precedent when negotiating.

  6. RobertAlanFord says:

    Pietrangelo just signed for $45.5 million over 7 years. $6.5 million a year so PK will most likely be looking for more.


  7. Stevie.Ray says:

    Pietrangelo gets 7 years at 6.5 million. Same as Karlsson contract.

    How does this affect Subban and his contract negotiations? Probably means he’ll get ~7m over 8 years…

  8. mrhabby says:

    HABS top 6 VS LEAFS top 6…WHO IS BETTER.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      I agree World Health Organization is better than both top 6s.

      Note to self: time to rest (sick today — maybe getting feverish)

    • John Q Public says:

      Do you have to ask, really.

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      If the Canadiens “top six” is Max-dd-Briere, Bourque-Pleks-Gio, then it’s close and the Leafs might even be better. The Canadiens 3rd line of Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher, however is young, comparable to the top two lines on either team already, infinitely better than the Leafs’ 3rd line, and within a couple season probably the best line on either team.
      No serious person would trade All of the Canadiens’ forwards for All of Toronto’s.

  9. 24 Cups says:

    Odds to Win 2014 Stanley Cup at Bodog.
    (For what it’s worth)

    Chicago Blackhawks 6/1
    Pittsburgh Penguins 15/2
    Boston Bruins 10/1
    Los Angeles Kings 12/1
    St. Louis Blues 12/1
    Detroit Red Wings 16/1
    Vancouver Canucks 16/1
    San Jose Sharks 18/1
    Minnesota Wild 20/1
    New York Rangers 20/1
    Anaheim Ducks 22/1
    Edmonton Oilers 22/1
    Ottawa Senators 22/1
    Philadelphia Flyers 22/1
    Toronto Maple Leafs 25/1
    Washington Capitals 25/1
    Montreal Canadiens 28/1
    New York Islanders 33/1
    Carolina Hurricanes 40/1
    Colorado Avalanche 40/1
    Columbus Blue Jackets 40/1
    Dallas Stars 40/1
    Nashville Predators 50/1
    New Jersey Devils 50/1
    Tampa Bay Lightning 50/1
    Winnipeg Jets 50/1
    Phoenix Coyotes 66/1
    Buffalo Sabres 100/1
    Calgary Flames 100/1
    Florida Panthers 150/1

  10. habsfan0 says:

    Will Mike Boone be live blogging any of the preseason games?

  11. Ian Cobb says:

    Summit Children Foundation Charity Raffle gets another donation!!

    Another pair of game tickets being put into the raffle by The Montreal Gazette.

    What are you donating??

    Raffle tickets will be sold at the Baton Rouge 3pm sharp.
    $20ea or 3 for $40.

  12. shiram says:

    slyCH : not Czech, but I took some interest in the team during the lockout last season, seeing as Plekanec is my favorite Habs.
    Plus the logo is just cool looking.

  13. TheDagger says:

    Pacioretty – Galchenyuk – Briere*
    Gagne – Eller – Gallagher*
    Bourque – Plekanec – Gionta
    The Muscle

    *Or any combination of the top two lines.

    This looks so much better than any combination that includes DD.

  14. HabFab says:

    I don’t remember seeing this linked earlier so here goes… nice article on the success the Habs have with their 5th round picks;

  15. Sportfan says:

    @Timo I wonder if the disturbingly rich actresses of 2013 know Roy and Tremblay haven’t spoken ! D:

    Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!

  16. Sportfan says:

    Although many of you hate the Big O and frankly it is a piece of crap, how cool would it be if the Habs played a game their with over 60 000 fans there! Although that might tear the play down 😛

    Sports and Entertainment in the link click and enjoy, clicking is fun!

  17. Luke says:

    Pro Tip:

    Never notice on a Friday that 5 months worth of data is incorrect. Your reward will be to correct 5 months worth of incorrect data on a Friday.

  18. Strummer says:

    If Pricer lets a few in during scrimmages it may be because he’s breaking in new, smaller, league-mandated pads.

    “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  19. HabFab says:

    Renaud Lavoie – Canadiens won’t make an offer to Simon Gagné for now. But that could change if key players are injured.

  20. Ghosts of the Forum says:

    Anyone know if line combos and D pairings were the same today?

    I really like keeping Bourque with Pleks, they seemed to have some chemistry going last year.

    • Timo says:

      What were they yesterday… Is there a glimpse of who will be paired with who when the season starts?

      • shiram says:

        Yesterday was…

        Also, Brière is the first Habs player to have an accent on his name plate on his jersey… the more you know!

        I think playing Bourque with Plekanec is smart, he can be physical when needed, as a nose for the net and can play a decent 2-way game, which is required on that line.

        • Timo says:

          Sorry… meant the D pairings.

          • slyCH says:

            My haha brought vomit to my mouth. Somehow I kept it in.

            C’est une Joke… by the way….

          • shiram says:

            For timo and Phil C, according to Gélinas… those were yesterdays line/pairings.

            Bourque-Plekanec-Thomas (Gionta once healthy)
            Prust-White-Moen (Parros en santé)




          • Timo says:

            Thanks Shiram. Markov-Diaz pairing has disaster written all over it.

          • HabFab says:

            Tinordi was paired with Patteryn today. Probably Ellis was in with Drewiske.

          • slyCH says:

            It’s only pre-season Timo. Really. Chill. That pairing is a hell-match made in hellven but we all know this is only scrimmage. Anyway.

            Hey Shiram, I notice you have the Kladno logo as your avatar, I have many Czech friends and almost married a couple Czech beauties before realizing I’m actually quite happy as a single man….

            Are you of Czech descent? Very cool people in my book.

        • Phil C says:

          Has Leblanc been playing centre or wing?

  21. Lafleurguy says:

    David’s stats before Goliath struck back:

    2007-08 Cincinnati Cyclones ECHL 68 29 77 106 18 38 22 9 24 33 18
    2007-08 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 4 0 1 1 6 -3 — — — — —
    2008-09 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 77 24 34 58 20 12 6 1 3 4 4
    2009-10 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 60 27 51 78 34 30 19 10 13 23 16
    2009-10 Montreal Canadiens NHL 6 0 1 1 0 -1 — — — — —
    2010-11 Hamilton Bulldogs AHL 35 10 35 45 24 14 — — — — —
    2010-11 Montreal Canadiens NHL 43 8 14 22 12 -3 5 0 1 1 2
    2011-12 Montreal Canadiens NHL 81 16 44 60 24 10 — — — — —

    “Where’s the Beef?/What’s the Beef?”

  22. Lafleurguy says:

    Players Recalled To Hamilton (AHL)
    Stefan Chaput
    Peter Merth
    Joe Stejskal
    Philippe Lefebvre
    Adam Ross
    Daultan Leveille

  23. Propwash says:

    Anyone know if they’re doing another season of 24h CH?


  24. slyCH says:

    Look, I’m guilty of throwing DD under the bus, I’ve been somewhat harsh on DD since coming back on this board but truth be told sarcasm doesn’t “read” as well as spoken, so I’ll type my thoughts on him as succinctly as I can and be done with.

    I want nothing more then to see this kid succeed. He is after all a Hab.

    The contract he received was…not his fault.
    Is it deserved? Not after last season.
    Over priced? Not so much, if he redeems himself this season.
    Can he do better? We’ll see, only time will tell.

    Point is he will not get taller anytime soon and his loss of weight in the off season does not, in my mind, equal speed. Keep in mind I do not discriminate talent from height. It’s the DD intangibles I wonder most of.

    I told a poster earlier that his loss of “fat” was irrelevant, fat weighs less than muscle, so, what does DD losing 7 ponds in the off season have anything to do with him losing anything less but muscle? Nothing. Absolutely nothing! Think about it. DD was not 7 pounds of “fat” heavier last year but 7 pounds of muscle heavier.

    Look at PK, his progression has been well documented, he keeps getting bigger (not taller or fatter) bigger and fitter. And we all see the results on the ice. He is an athlete.
    I saw DD floundering on the ice like a fish out of water more then any fish caught in a tournament here in Key West. He was brutal(y) crashed to the ice with ease. Easily muscled off the puck. Easily eased away from threat when it came to the corners in the offensive zones. He was out-matched in face-offs. He was… a sorry sight all season and don’t tell me you weren’t on the edge of the couch watching him on the PP… for all the wrong reasons.

    I just had an epiphany, my writing this was not a justification on my unwarranted disdain of DD and his play or contract. Nor is it a last ditch at redemption for perhaps hidden animosity toward what may be perceived as an under-qualified athlete on mine or anybodies part. My point comes from a gut feeling. He’s too f2ck!ng small for this team! If the Habs had a roster of giants then DD would be free to roam like the road-runner Cournoyer back in the 60′s and early 70′s.

    Sadly it’s not the case.

    Click to Edit

  25. Mark C says:

    Habfab – this nonsense about Moen from below.

    HIO where Occam’s razor never gets sharpened.

  26. Say Ash says:

    It turns out we’re going to win this year! Xbox doesn’t lie:

    • TheDagger says:

      Anaheim pulling the goalie down 7-3 with 30 seconds to go haha

    • Hstands4Hockey says:

      >Parros on the Ducks
      >Ducks pulling Goalie down 7-3
      >Cube is black?
      >Where is PK? (or alternatively, why is he white?)
      >Player#61 on the ice defending a lead
      >Gionta taller than Getzlaf
      >Why is Gary Bettman suspiciously tall and handsome?
      >Budaj not in team photo
      >Price is wearing illegal 2012/13 pads
      >Markov making in threw an entire playoffs without blowing out his knee
      >Not being able to here Pierre McGuire ruin the moment by saying “I CAN”

      I feel this may not be real.

      Rule #76: No Excuses, Play Like a Champion!

  27. Mark C says:

    So let me get this straight, a pending UFA re-signs for under $2M a year and people believe a rumor that he was expecting top-6 minutes. Does this make any sense?

    • Cal says:

      None at all, but that’s all part of the fun here at HIO.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Only insofar as he was very close to the July 1st free agency kickoff when he re-signed, and got a No Trade Clause out of Marc Bergevin. I can see how it might fit the narrative that he may have gotten assurances when the deadline loomed and the pressure was on that he wouldn’t just be a 4th liner/fighter, that he’d get opportunities to move up the roster on the forward lines, and may have been bitter when it didn’t come to pass, but we have no credible source stating this was the case.

  28. Hobie Hansen says:

    Thank god Gauthier isn’t the GM anymore or we’d probably have Brendan Morrow and Simon Gagne in the lineup and Alex Gallchenyuk and Brendan Gallagher would be sent down.

  29. twilighthours says:

    Is someone here at the scrimmage today and might be able to share some thoughts?

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Dave Stubbs ‏@Dave_Stubbs 4m

      One minute to play; Whites need a miraculous comeback to tie this. Fucale pulled for 6th skater, for heaven’s sake!

      Dave Stubbs ‏@Dave_Stubbs 12m

      Not one centreman has been thrown out of a faceoff circle yet. That’s coming soon enough… #Habs

      Pat Hickey ‏@zababes1 19m

      Alex Galchenyuk scores spectacular goal to give Reds 3-1 lead early in second period at #Habs scrimmage

      Dave Stubbs ‏@Dave_Stubbs 24m

      Ready for 2nd period of #Habs scrimmage; Mayer now in goal for Reds, Fucale for Whites

      Pat Hickey ‏@zababes1 37m

      Rookie Martin Reway (pronounced re-vie) beats Price with backhander to give Reds 2-1 lead at #Habs scrimmage.

    • HabFab says:

      Luc Gelinas – Among the kids, Leblanc and Tinordi were the best. Reway was really good today.McCarron can skate RT @ernie12345: who impress you so far?

  30. Propwash says:

    Apparently, Chucky just scored a beaut. I can’t wait to see him in action again.


  31. youngwun says:

    Where do I go if I wanna buy tickets to the red vs whites game tomorrow? Couldn’t find on site . Please help.

  32. HabFab says:

    The weigh in from Thursday… in French but numbers are the universal language;

    EDIT: IMO the only important numbers here are the middle one from Thursday’s weigh in. The others are old data the writer collected for his story. Case in point, PK was 206 when he started playing pro and 216 last season so he didn’t put on 11 pounds over the summer. Tinordi was 205 when he was drafted and 212 last year. He has put on 15 lbs not 22.

  33. HabFab says:

    Leblanc and Reway continue to impress among the non NHLers.

    • Timo says:

      No matter how impressive they are, nobody, with an exception of maybe one dman, will be making the big club out of this camp. The starting roster was pretty much set before the camp even began.

      That doesn’t mean of course these players should not be trying but just sayin’… they are all going back to their respective clubs.

  34. Hobie Hansen says:

    Dave Stubbs ‏@Dave_Stubbs 3m

    End of 1 period, 2-1 #Habs Reds. Bourque, Reway for Reds, White for… Whites. Prust now out there coaching or heckling a Zamboni driver

  35. HabFab says:

    Dave Stubbs –
    End of 1 period, 2-1 #Habs Reds. Bourque, Reway for Reds, White for… Whites. Prust now out there coaching or heckling a Zamboni driver.

  36. Phil C says:

    Let’s say the average NHL forward is 6’1″ and 200 lbs:

    Above average

    Pacioretty, Bourque, Eller, Galchenyuk, Prust, Moen, Parros, (Blunden)

    Plekanec, White,

    Below Average
    Briere, Gionta, Gallagher, Desharnais, (Dumont)

    Factor in that guys like Gionta and Gallagher are tough players who go to the net and play in traffic, I don’t think it is that bad up front, from a size and toughness perspective.

    • habs-fan-84 says:

      It really isn’t. Frankly, it something that now just seems to perpetuate itself in the media.

    • Hobie Hansen says:


      They could probably benefit from getting a little larger up front but their defence is bigger now and their 4th line is starting to look intimidating! It was awful when they were undersized and under aggressive everywhere!

      And regarding Prust, some places have him listed @ 6’2″ which is an error. He’s 5’11” or 6′ tops! But still tougher than most guys who are 6’4!

    • Timo says:

      I would put Gallagher in the above average category. I hope he can keep it up this season but I think he needs some support. I don’t think anyone can take that kind of pounding for 82 games.

      • Marcusman says:

        It’s definitely going to be a long season…we should be paying more attention to depth than average size…last yr we simply ran out of decent players..combine that with tanking goal tending and we were sunk..the officiating with the kicking the puck in thingy hurt too.

  37. ASH says:

    Goal-tending will be the Habs ticket to a good season. Poor
    goal-tending will take the Habs down!!

  38. sweetmad says:

    Just read the piece about Darren Dredger,made me laugh,like yesterday on OTR,Lansburgh was at the Leafs camp,and asked some players what they thought of the hoopla about Kadri signing.He asked them if it could ever happen anywhere else like that,he has to be joking,what about last year with PK,why was every one saying that Kadri should take a PK kind of contract.
    Landsburgh lost a lot of respect from me,after that program yesterday,he didn’t seem to have his nomal makeup on, but his nose was certainly brown.

  39. ASH says:

    Moen is a 4th liner. Always was, Always will be. He wants top 6-minutes. He doesn’t deserve bottom 6-minutes. A guy that doesn’t play tough anymore, won’t fight. Time for new blood!!

  40. habs-hampton says:

    This may already have been asked and answered, but is Mike Boone live-blogging again this year? What about exhibition games?

  41. Marc10 says:

    After last year’s success with Eller, Bourque, The Kids, and PK, I can’t wait to see MT’s Personal Development Program work its magic on Price, Moen and DD.

    Weekend is kicking off here so I’ll throw out a couple SD style questions.

    1. Will we make the playoffs?
    2. Will the Wings?
    3. Who gets more pts: Crosby, Malkin or Tavares?
    4. Does Stamkos win the Rocket Richard? If not… Who?
    5. Will Team C win gold in Mother Russia? Bonus: Who will be the goalie?
    Bonus 2: Does PK make the team?

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      People we going nuts last year over Michel Therrin’s early season handing of Subban and Eller. What happens, they both have the best seasons of their careers. Hopefully he can do the same again with a few players this year!

      1) will go down to the wire
      2) Yes
      3) Crosby
      4) Stamkos
      5) Canada wins gold, Price starts and PK is on the team.

      • Eddie says:

        Subban and Eller will be great players for years to come. Coaches who don’t use Subban on their penalty kill will be working for RDS in short order.

      • bwoar says:

        Louis Leblanc would be my darkhorse pick for being that guy. Don’t know that there’s room for him on the roster yet though.


      • slyCH says:

        MT has what it takes to turn those young one’s around.

        Can he evolve that practice from young one’s to the vets into success? Not sure. My first time questioning the coach I think. Was not a fan bringing him back last season but he moderately had success until the playoff. He managed the personnel well to a certain extent, I guess. This is a new season. A full season. Not only are the eyes of MTL on MT but so are the eyes of Canada. MT would be a great assistant coach in my eyes. He’s the head coach so, I follow.

    • Cal says:

      1. Nope. 2. Yup. 3. Crosby. 4. Yes. 5. Nope. Luongo. PK makes it; Price chills out for two weeks.

    • DAVE. N says:

      1 yes
      2 no
      3 Malkin
      4 no Malkin or Crosby
      5 No….bonus1…they don’t know, and neither do I Bonus 2…yup

    • SmartDog says:

      1. Yah baby!
      2. Yah baby!
      3. Tavares. I don’t think the Pens will have a great year.
      4. Sure – Stamkos.
      5. Gold baby. Luongo in net. (For better or worse.) with PK flying.

      PS: Good job! But where’s the funny question (there’s usually a funny/humorous/or contentious question… )?

      Can you smell what the dog is sniffin?

    • Bigdawg says:

      1. playoffs? probably – our young stars are more experienced
      2. Wings? 50/50 great team but on the decline
      3. most pts? neither – time for new blood and not Tavares (though he was great last year)
      4. rocket? not stamkos…Ovi
      5. gold for C – longos in net. PK is MVP

  42. HabFab says:

    I notice the Habs web site is copying Mavid, Ron, UCe etc in their countdown;

    Good stuff gang!!

  43. HabFab says:

    @24 Cups – Bouillon was born in the US to a Quebec mother, who moved back to Montreal when FB was 2 years old. He would have dual citizenship.

  44. HabFab says:

    We are told Beaulieu’s shoulder injury is not serious but this makes 5 injured now.

    Luc Gelinas – Pour Beaulieu, on parle d’une blessure à une épaule. Rien de sérieux nous dit-on. #RDS On compte donc 5 blessés maintenant

    • slyCH says:

      What it comes down to is…Beaulieu is AHL bound. Nothing more. Nothing less.
      Beaulieu will be NHL caliber next season, after seasoning and maturing. Can’t wait!

    • Hstands4Hockey says:

      I am also concerned that injuries are piling up, regardless that most seem “minor”. Not good.

      Rule #76: No Excuses, Play Like a Champion!

  45. DAVE. N says:

    I’ve noticed a continuous discussion about DD and his failings vs talents, and I think we all agree that last season wasn’t his finest, so we as fans are taking a wait and see attitude….however, can someone please explain why Travis Moen is on this team? I’ve heard rumours he was expecting top 6 minutes, didn’t get them, so he just went through the motions last year. With the type of talent that is coming along, are we going to see a change, or a floater?

    • slyCH says:

      Down the thread is a link interview between Marinaro, (or whatever his name is) and MB. The subject of Moen was briefly broached. Entertaining INT. Give it a listen.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      Hi Dave, Moen is not a top 6 forward for sure, if he was,. then this team is in a pile of trouble. But I believe he is a large asset when he plays his game and understands his value. Last year was a screwed up year from the get go for the whole league. This year we will start to see the new flavor from the new management appear on the ice.

      • slyCH says:

        Very true Ian, I said the same (somewhat) lower in the thread. This year will show the true colors of the team thus giving a better understanding of what is needed on ice. MB will be locked on the team and will load accordingly.

        Ughhhhh. Yeah. That’s what I think.
        Of course….

  46. Old Bald Bird says:

    Brain Wilde’s analysis of a few players from yesterday:

    I found this amusing: “Hudon has had back issues but told me today that they are behind him.” I mean, where else would back problems be but behind him? Sorry, I have a weird and sometimes bad sense of humour. This is perhaps par for the course for some anachronistic English guys.

  47. Luke says:

    Some of the fine folks here may enjoy this little Darren (Toronto GM Dave Nonis’s cousin) Dreger article:–nhl.html

    It’s a bit of a head spinner, though, as they catalogue the double talk and contradictions… so enjoy.

    • HabFab says:

      And here I thought Ryan Lambert was hard on the Habs.

    • Trisomy 21 says:

      Thanks for the read, quite interesting.

    • Morenz7 says:

      Head spinner is right. Is he saying Dreger’s a shill for MLSE, or not? He does, however, nicely expose how scattershot the guy’s “analysis” is.

      Dreger can be quick breaking news via Twitter, but I’ve long felt that his “Insider” reports amount to hyped-up conventional wisdom (unlike McKenzie’s). Really: who didn’t know that Kadri’s deal was going to come in around $2.9M per? Once the Leafs made it clear it was bridge contract or nothing, it was fait accompli. No way he was getting more than Subban.

  48. sweetmad says:

    Hey Trini I just saw your post,I did see my post being quoted, your right I do have an eye for talent,and I will take talent over size any day,thats speaking from experience.

    But like most men that are obsessed with size,most of the hockey fans are too,but you just have to look around the league, to see the most talented players are not the biggest.Who would you rather watch,a small guy giving his all and getting it done,or some neanderthal,beating some one around the head,no contest as far as I am concerned.

    I would much rather watch St louis or Gally,make a fool of some big guy,and get a goal,than the alternative of watching a couple of fools get their lives ruined.

    If people want to watch fighting, they should turn on the news some day,and see kids killed and maimed because of fighting,displaced and starving women and children,lives ruined with no hope for a future.

    There is no entertainment value in fighting,skill and finesse,pure guts and detemination,are so much more exciting,and you get to win games.Nobody wins in a war.

    • Maritime Ronn says:

      May I ask why size and toughness is always confused with goonery?
      One has nothing to do with the other.

      Take Brian Bickel this past playoffs

      6’4-233 – only 14 penalty minutes in 23 playoff games and was the 2nd highest playoff scorer for the Hawks with 9 goals-17 points.

      He ‘battled’ Chara hard/wore him down, and was a KEY factor to the Hawks winning the Cup – not the only factor (see Kane-Crawford-Sharp-Hossa-Keith-Seabrook-Hjalmarsson) but a key that won many puck battles and would not be pushed around in the tough areas.

      It’s all about Balance.
      You never win with only goons, or with only a small, soft, fast, speedy team.

      • habs-fan-84 says:

        Great stuff Ron.

      • bwoar says:

        Ronn, as soon as the meme “MOAR bigger” started to be tossed around here, it became clear that rather than discuss balance, the merits of toughness, or important matchups like you Bickell-Chara example, a ton of folks are content to have non-discussion and simply reduce the argument to ‘cavemen’, ‘size queens’, etc. etc.

        Not saying that was sweetmad’s point in particular, but I’ve noticed that the “skill wins over size” crowd is getting particularly reductive and hand-waving rather than admit the obvious.


        • twilighthours says:

          That happens less on this site than on others, Bwoar. But it is getting polarizing, for sure.

          • bwoar says:

            I hear ya. It’s kind of disappointing. Also, there’s no single right way to build a Cup winner, but some would have you think that there is.


        • neumann103 says:

          Well MOAR Bigger was fully deserved as a response to the frequent
          “why don’t the Habs acquire Insert Name of Random Player listed on hockeydb at over 6′ 2″ and 200 pounds?”

          Size in and of itself does nothing. Size and skill and how much skill you trade off for how much size is a reasonable discussion.

          The flip side to the “He is 6’2″, lets get him” meme is the “He is under 6′ and therefore a Smurf” nonsense, as though there is some magical dividing line somewhere between 6′ 1″ and 6’2″ where suddenly everything changes. That is definitely worth all the mockery it gets.

          Hockey is a physical game and it is difficult to imagine success at the NHL level with a team dominated by 5’7″ skaters. But having a bunch of 5’11”, 195 pound guys is not an issue at all when they have skill and/or insane compete levels.

          On toughness, a player who can bring some physicality and take a regular shift on the third line or better is gold. That is why Bergevin (smartly) overpaid for Brandon Prust. (that 5’11 3/4″ 200 pound Smurf). Your example of Bickell is valid, but he is a guy who worst case is a 3rd line forward who could do spot duty on Top 6 when needed. Knock 4 inches and 20 pound off him and he is still an NHL regular.

          And it has been pointed out ad nauseum that the Chicago Blackhawks were among the smaller teams in the NHL last year (29th in height and 20th in weight) and Boston was a bottom third team in both categories as well.

          Part of that is that they don’t play particularly small. we can debate the intangibles of toughness, but the fact is that a statistic like height or weight does not automatically make players or teams tough. And these stats are often flawed. Just find the listings for Brandon Prist at 6’2″.

          At base there are some of us who don’t think a team needs a face puncher and unless as a coaching/management decision you are using that roster spot to play a Parros 5 minutes a night to immunize Prust from goon duty and make an opportunity to double shift Prust, Eller or Galchenyuk in exploitation spots it doesn’t make sense.

          I also think that while you ideally would like to be prepared to play any style of game, a team that is built around certain competitive advantages like speed, possession and a strong breakout from offensive defensemen generally will not be helping themselves if they play their opponents games. Here in Toronto during the playoffs there was a lot of talk of how the Leafs answer to being better in the playoffs against the Bruins was substantially founded on seeing the Bruins have trouble keeping up with the speed, transition and aggressive forecheck of the Habs.

          Sometimes getting more physical just means getting off your game

          “Et le but!”

    • slyCH says:

      Well, there you go. Height does not equal talent. Sure enough.

      Do you classify DD in the category you denounce? Uh, reproach? Let me rephrase, abhor??? No really, let me get my thoughts in order…

      D O E S D D C O M E A C C R O S S A S T H E T Y P E O F P L A Y E R T H A T C A N T A K E A T E A M S U C H A S T H E H A B S T O T H E N E X T L E V E L I N A N Y P L A Y O F F I N A N Y G I V E N Y E A R!!!!!!!

      AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA! I’m just glad to be back!

      Decipher…It’s pretty easy. But put down in writing and I swear, as a Catholic, I will buy you all the beers at next year’s summit. Whomever.


  49. Sportfan says:

    Just bought 13 baseball tickets for both days I can’t wait but my credit card hurts a lot.

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    • slyCH says:

      The Jays at the big O PRE-SEASON games for next season?

      Shoot sporty, shoot.

      • Sportfan says:

        Yup the Exhibition games lol both games actually first game I’m in the upper deck, second game homerun section. I get to bring my little brother who never saw baseball in Montreal unfortunately.

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        • slyCH says:

          OK sport, don’t listen to them, Ian was obviously part of the problem for the SPO”S exodus…

          In 94 I lived in Massachusetts, traveled countless times to visit my family (maman, pappa, 5 bros and sis) and catch the spo’s in town. Actually, there was no way in hell I would visit without the spo’s playing at the big-O. If I knew one of my siblings would be MIA It made no difference to me. I took my dad to a few games and we were on our way to the series…until

          I have not followed or watched baseball since the move to DC

  50. nunacanadien says:

    Today’s Gazette kind of gives me a sense that we are trying to get tougher, but sadly we have signed players who are just not tough enough. We signed them to be fast skaters like Briere.

    When are the habs going to learn after the strike and lockout that speed does not witn games in the tough NHL crash the net style and the physical play that comes with that and the terrible toll it has on our defense.

    Why are we signing defense that can skate fast but can’t clear people from the nets. And we all know now that Price is a washout prima donna who wasted his talent cause of lack of confidence and poor coaching.

    It was bad enough when Markov broke his own knee skating. Now we have habs hurting themselves just skating again. WTF?????

  51. John Q Public says:

    HIO Preseason

    The assumptions and foretelling of how players will execute is in fullswing.
    Certain players are already in the doghouse while no games have even been played.
    Evaluating players based on their salary, not on their skill level.
    Predictions abound how we won’t do much this season.

    HIO come for the crap, stay for the Links.

  52. Phil C says:

    One of the reasons the constant demand to get bigger, tougher, and more physical bothers me is because it represents Boston Bruins culture. Montreal Canadiens culture is about speed, skill, and puck movement. While any Championship team needs a physical element, it should not define your team if you are wearing the red, white and blue.

    Just because the Bruins lucked into a Cup a few years ago does not validate their style. The Markov-less Canadiens took them to overtime in game 7 that year and actually deserved to win the series without any toughness at all. If Kesler doesn’t blow out his hip in the WCF, the Canucks would have wiped the floor with the Bruins, just like Chicago did this year.

    Speaking of Canadiens culture, guess who helped build the Chicago teams? Scotty Bowman, arguably the guy who was handed the Canadiens torch to hold it high. Chicago have won two Cups in the last 4 years playing a style way closer to Montreal Canadiens hockey than to Boston Bruins hockey.

    After winning the Cup this year, in a post-game interview on the ice as they were celebrating they asked Scotty what he thought was the key getting the team back on top. I am paraphrasing, but he said even after they blew up the team in 2010, they retained a very solid core of key players. In addition to having a core group, he said the acquisition Oduya (6′, 190) and Rozsival (6’1″, 212) was the key to taking their team to the next level. That those two players gave them a mobile and puck-moving group of defensemen. Right off the cuff, Scotty thinks mobility and puck moving skills are the key to success. THAT is Montreal Canadiens hockey.

    So I prefer to listen to Scotty Bowman and hope that the Canadiens continue to build a team that is defined by their ability to skate and move the puck. That’s the type of hockey I like to watch. That’s why I like the Briere signing and why I like DD and Diaz on the team.

    • ABHabsfan says:

      Very well said. The speed and skill of the Habs is why most of us are fans in the first place. However, smallish players that play well and make a difference are considered to have big hearts. Small players that stink it out or are even average, are smurfs.

      “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
      Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

      • Phil C says:

        Yes, I don’t like it when players like Gionta and Gallagher are called smurfs when they play most of their game in the dirty areas and go to the net harder than most wingers in the league of any size.

    • slyCH says:

      Scotty Bowman was a great coach, excellent coach, but it took him years to become a good GM. Look at his stay in Buffalo right after getting overlooked as GM in MTL for Grudman. It was not good. While in MTL as coach he keept insisting on getting rid of players, Pollock (GM extraordinaire) kept the ship afloat. It took years after Bowman’s slight to get things right. Love the man. But he was not ready as a GM for any club at the time. Ego’s come in many forms.

      • Phil C says:

        You are probably right, but I just don’t see how Irving Grundman was a better choice. Scotty had little to work with in Buffalo. It would have been interesting to see how he would have done inheriting a 1st place team with many draft picks in the bank.

        • slyCH says:

          Ya, I keep wondering if he’d have picked Savard over Wickenheiser (God rest his soul)
          The goat we call Mario Tremblay (for the obvious fiasco) used to say Wick was the best scrimmage player he’d EVER seen but come game time? He was a no show. Sad. Sad story the Wick is. But his (cousin?) was an excellent performer in the world stage and is now in the Canadian Hockey hall of fame. Good for her.

          • Maritime Ronn says:

            At the time, Wick was a consensus #1 and interestingly enough, Denis Savard was not 2nd overall but 3rd overall.
            Winnipeg chose Dave Babych in the #2 spot before Savard.

    • Maritime Ronn says:


      It’s all about having balance
      If you look back at all the past Cup winning Habs teams, they all had great goaltending, great speed and quickness, yet also possessed some very good size and toughness when needed.

      The recent versions of the Habs lacked the size toughness – not to be confused with goonery.

      As for the Bruins lucking into a Cup, one thing is certain was that they were fortunate concerning injuries….and they did have some great talent in Patrice Bergeron Krejci, Recci, Ryder coupled with the physical presence of guys like Lucic and Horton – Thomas in nets, and dislike as much as you wish, Chara.

      • Phil C says:

        I agree that luck is a key factor. Both the Kings and the Blackhawks made it all the way with the same 6 defensemen. Very lucky considering the number of blocked shots and high level of exertion.

        Prust, Moen, Murray, Bourque, Parros, Emelin, Subban vs Briere, Gionta, DD, Gallagher, Bouillon, Diaz. Is this not balance?

        Edit: I will not say I like Chara, but I love defensemen who can play both ends of the rink AND be physical. Larry Robinson was my favorite player.

    • Cal says:

      When the Habs were winning Cups, they were more skilled AND they were as tough or tougher than any other team in the league.
      Skill and speed were balanced with team toughness.

      • Phil C says:

        Agree, those 1970s teams were certainly tough enough, but defined by their skill.

        If we need balance as you say, do we not need guys like Diaz and DD?

        • Cal says:

          Not when the Habs have a plethora of small softie toffees. 4 of the Habs top 9 forwards are under-sized. 3 of the Dmen last season- Diaz, Drewiske and Weber played too soft. This season I expect Diaz and Drewiske to be soft.
          Balance means a better combination of size and skill. Right now, the Habs have 2 too many small forwards. Imo, adding Briere for 2 years and extending DD for 4 seasons are 2 mistakes. However, MB had to replace Ryder with somebody, I guess.

  53. 24 Cups says:

    Here’s a neat summary of the great prospect series that EOTP has been running this fall.

  54. 24 Cups says:

    A few quick words on DD.

    It seems pretty obvious to me that eventually DD will have to move on, especially if Galchenyuk and Eller become the 1-2 punch down the middle. I can’t see Desharnais on the wing so he’ll probably have to be traded in a year or two.

    In terms of asset management, fans have to remember that DD is a total freebie, an unsigned, undrafted free agent who cost the Habs nothing. Once the cap is re-established, his contract will be easy to move. His value will be a decent draft pick or a role player to fill a hole. Not bad for a guy who cost nothing.

    In terms of the game on the ice, I just hope MB and MT can ease up on the French factor and give guys like Eller and Galchenyuk their due. Especially on the PP. My gut tells me that won’t happen this year but I feel there will be no choice by 2014.

    • Old Bald Bird says:

      Oh dear! You said “French” and not Francophone Quebecois Canadian. Beware.

      Seriously. You make a good point that we should remember.

      • HabinBurlington says:

        Was going to mention that, but figured someone else would catch it also. Of course what do I know, coming from a Kraut! 🙂

        • Eddie says:

          As an English Quebecer I can tell you that no one I know would care if you called francophones , French , or Anglophones ,English.

          • Mattyleg says:

            As an Anglophone Quebecer, I see the terms ‘French’ and ‘English’ (instead of Anglo(phone) and Franco(phone) as anachronisms used mostly by people of my parents’ generation.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • 24 Cups says:

            Mattyleg – It was a mental slip, plain and simple.

          • Mattyleg says:

            No issue with you, 24!
            Just a response to Eddie.

            —Hope Springs Eternal—

          • Eddie says:

            re: french, english, or francophone, anglophone, here’s an article written Oct 2012 in the Gazette.

            Census 2011: StatsCan does away with ‘francophone,’ ‘anglophone’ and ‘allophone’

            (here’s the key paragraph in the article)

            “Now, Statistics Canada has updated its language terminology again. You won’t find the words anglophone, francophone or allophone in the 2011 Census results. That’s because as our linguistic reality has become more complex, a lot of people don’t fit in one or the other of those categories, Corbeil said.

            Instead, the federal agency has used mother tongue, the language people speak at home, people’s knowledge of French and English, and the First Official Language Spoken (FOLS).”


            So if you want to call Quebecers who speak English, English, and those who speak French, French, I think you can go right ahead. StatsCan would agree with you.

      • slyCH says:

        There is NO reprimand using the word French to describe a person. None whatsoever. It’s just the context in which you use the term. That is all…I guess.

    • Maritime Ronn says:


      Not sure if I get the ” I just hope MB and MT can ease up on the French factor..”

      Of course the locals want their home growns to do well, yet on the flip side, when they don’t, they are booed mercilessly.
      They did it to Lafleur.
      They did it to Savard and so many others.

      The beauty of this Internet thing is that one can surf around and get a flavor – perhaps not a Habs fan consensus, but at least a flavor of sentiment from Habs fans.

      Perusing some sites such as RDS or La Presse, shows anything but total love for Desharnais.

      What is said here, is also said there.
      They really hope he does well, yet will not tolerate a repeat of last year, or where it’s obvious he is in the way of Eller/Galchenyuk to make the Habs a better team.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Ronn – I live in Slowville so I can assure you that my “French” reference was an innocent slipup.

        DD was the only French-Canadien on the team last year. Did that give him any special status? Hard to tell but then again look at what the team has to go through when they hire a GM or coach.

        Secondly, would the Habs have signed Danny Briere is he wasn’t French-Canadien? Here’s a guy who is on a +35 contract and gets 8M. In a day and age when most guys in his predicament have to go to camp on a tryout basis. There’s also his recent history of injuries. I think his birthplace had a lot to do with his signing.

        • Maritime Ronn says:


          Bouillon was there also.
          I don’t know how much of a factor that was in the Briere signing.
          Perhaps only ownership and management know and may never tell.

          On the other hand, the Habs needed to replace the Ryder goals and experience.
          All reports show that this time, Briere really wants to be here.
          Most also mention he is a great pro and maybe our younger guys will have a great mentor and learn both on ice/off ice professionalism.
          He knows how to settle things down when panic sets in.
          If so, the price is good.

        • Eddie says:

          Have to agree 24. I see it the same way from here in Montreal, and I’m bilingual.

          RDS and especially Anti-Chambre are extremely sympathetic and supportive of Desharnais. Even when Desharnais struggled last season he was never really held accountable. Michel Bergeron and Gaston Therrien particularly support Desharnais no matter how he plays.

          And when the Habs signed Briere, RDS stopped their regular programming and aired a 2 hour special about the signing. Briere is not an aging, often injured player who might be done. Briere is a STAR.

          When Briere steps on the ice he will be given an extended standing ovation for several minutes. If his name was Bryant I doubt that would be the case.

    • Sportfan says:

      He could be gone if he repeats last season, not the amount of points, but if he slows down and doesn’t go in the areas where they need him to be effective. I’m wondering if they tell DD to be more like Gally lol?

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    • slyCH says:

      The extended PP time for both Gally’s and Eller this season are inevitable, regardless of race, creed, language, sexual orientation, political, art, creed or politically correct stance that may be “imaginary” within the populace. Yes, MT will use personnel according to talent as the season progress.

      If not and MT persists on using DD if ineffective as last season?????

      Big trouble ahead. Mark my frog words.

  55. HabFab says:

    In case you are still looking for tickets!

    Dave Stubbs – New limited selection of #Habs single-game tickets going on sale tomorrow.

    • HabFab says:

      So we have to be a wildcard team… who ever thought we would use that terminology in regards to the Habs making the play-offs.

      Just like Hickey doing video, us old dogs can still learn new tricks.

      • 24 Cups says:

        Frank – Let’s face it, the Habs have been life and death to make the playoffs most years. The two excepts that I remember would be last year and the year we finished 1st overall in the conference (just before the centennial?). Even then we got our asses kicked in the playoffs.

        I’m hoping that MB is building a team that can truly contend for an extended period of time. I’m fed up trying to finish 7th or 8th.

        • Habfan10912 says:

          I think we all would like that. Those of us a bit long on the teethe recall the glory days. Seems we’ve been joined by a group just desperate for a spot in the playoffs.

          A couple seasons ago HH among others began to tout the idea of tanking in order to begin a rebuild with substance. I don’t see any more tanking seasons in the clubs future so MB’s going to have to build around PK and Galchenyuk.

          I’ve left “you know who” off that list as to not cause more problems between L and I but he really is the key to this franchise. As fans we ALL better hope he’s the deal. If he isn’t MB, I shudder.

          • 24 Cups says:

            “You know who” better pick it up a bit seeing the D that is going to be in front of him to start the season. I still think our defense is the team’s biggest concern going into October. On the other hand, that could all change by the new year.

  56. Maritime Ronn says:

    Good Morning morning crew

    As a Habs follower, I’m OK (??? 🙂 )with giving Desharnais a mulligan for last year, yet still believe that on a VERY serious Cup contending team, there is absolutely no way he is a Top 6 Center/1st Unit PP.
    On a serious Cup contender, he is a 3rd line center with little to no PP time.

    From reading and watching the words and body language of Coach Therrien, it appears the leash will be much shorter this year as MT now knows what he has (Eller-Galchenyuk) and has several new options that he did not have at the beginning of last season.

    Some on here quote stats from 2 years ago, yet those stats were compiled on a 28th placed team with 2 wingers that played extremely well that year in Cole and Max.

    Those stats were accumulated during the season – not during the playoffs where the hockey becomes MUCH more physical and referees don’t call the minor stuff.
    Desharnais has played 10 NHL playoff games with 0 goals and 2 assists.

    From here, if Desharnais can keep up with the play this year – if he can stay on his skates and not end up on his butt because of any type of physical contact – if he can better protect the puck and win a few battles – if he can be better in the faceoff circle (48% last playoffs) and not get thrown out putting pressure on others…

    • Habfan10912 says:

      Morning Ronn. As long as he’s wearing a Hab’s jersey I’ll be rooting for him. He was the least of the clubs problems last year. My big issue was I would have liked Eller to get his power play time. That’s on the Coach not DD.

      • Maritime Ronn says:

        Hi Jim

        In a little defence of Coach MT, Eller wasn’t exactly burning it up to start last year, and let’s not forget he was even benched.

        Of his total 8 goals and 22 assists, 4 goals/ 7 assists were scored in the last 10 games…and we’ll never know how MT would have used him in the playoffs.

  57. Cal says:

    At long last it is the Friday before a game on Sunday. Woohoo!
    To celebrate, here’s a silly song about Habs GM Bergevin:

  58. Mavid says:

    The Cabot Trail was amazing…were off the the Alexander Graham Bell museum today and then Sydney to finally get to the chick a lick, or lick a chick..that chicken place my hubby has been obsessing over..

    Weed Wacker Gramda Smurf

  59. Mavid says:

    2…2….2….2….count em 2

    Weed Wacker Gramda Smurf

  60. SmartDog says:

    Man that Pat Hickey is a natural in front of the camera!
    It’s fun watching his eyes move all over the place!

    Can you smell what the dog is sniffin?

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Ya I think the old timer forgot to turn his mic on in the above video. Still the preseason for him too I guess.:-). We love you Pat!

      I like the new handle btw way SmartDog!

    • slyCH says:

      AHHHHHHHHHH MAN! I did NOT want to point that out, but since you did. I still find his input informative and appreciated. But he is awkward in front of the camera. God bless you Hickster!

  61. rhino514 says:

    Every year there is a general conception that gets propagated on a daily basis which is either false or exagerated. I really don´t get the harping on Desharnais.
    The drop off in his production was entirely due to the poor performance of the second power play unit. If that unit performs just average, DD´s numbers would have been equal or maybe even higher than the previous year´s numbers.
    As it was, he was only a few points off his pace. His goal production per 82 games was actually higher (17 to 16) than the previous year. One big game and the stats would look about par.
    The habs are in a great position at centre, DD isn´t a guy that´s supposed to carry the team. They just need him to put up between 50 and 60 points.
    I wouldn´t have signed him long term given the team´s situation at centre, but he´s not a bad little player; he´s hard working a local boy. He´ll be fine to have this year while Chucky is still learning.

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      My problem with DD is: We just don´t need him in my point of view. Plekanec and Eller are much better and I don´t know why Galchenyuk wouldn´t be ready to center the 3rd line. Don´t forget we also have White, Dumont (also small but a completely different player) and Bournival.

      I´m not obsessed with size as others and I really like Dumont to center our fourth line but DD? He gets so easily pushed away from the puck, it´s sometimes painful to watch and I think it would be better for Pacioretty to play with Plekanec and Bourque/Gionta than with DD.

      I also think that three small forwards among your top 9 is the maximum you should dress and we also have Gallagher, Gionta and Briere…

      • on2ndthought says:

        ” He gets so easily pushed away from the puck”… when he gets caught or trapped. The times he evades or finds open ice he has dangerous vision (not a talent easy to find in hockey). Give him the linemates and he will rack up points. This year should be interesting if he stays with Briere, two guys with great vision, some sniping ability and with MaxPac.

        “a cannonading drive”

    • zephyr says:

      I agree. I believe dd outscored getzlaf by quite a bit in his rookie season. getzlaf bounced back. dd is young & just starting his career. I don’t like the fact that the habs have 4 smurfs in their top 9 either but u have to figure only 3 will be playing at any 1 time. briere is here for 2 yrs & gionta is a ufa after this season. only dd & gallagher are going to be around. I have a feeling gionta will be traded this season.

    • JUST ME says:

      Negative people just need someone to spit on. With Gomez gone he is your perfect target . Cole was traded,Pacioretty played injured and we are still wondering why D.D. did not do better than he did the year before. This guy only knows one way to play and most team would like to have a guy like this who always has to prove himself that he belongs.

      Luckily we have Carey Price who will take center stage for the negatives as soon as they lose a game. Win as a team ,lose as a loser i guess…

    • Marcusman says:

      DD finished last year with 5 points less than Plekanec. His only sin was get comfy….after having to prove himself for the last 10 yrs in hockey…he coasted after signing a cushy contract that tied up his dream for him.

      This kid sees the ice very well…fantastic play maker….great hands around the net…

      He’ll score 25 this yr…

    • slyCH says:

      Look, I’m guilty of throwing DD under the bus, I’ve been somewhat harsh on DD since coming back on this board but truth be told sarcasm doesn’t “read” as well as spoken, so I’ll type my thoughts on him as succinctly as I can and be done with.

      I want nothing more then to see this kid succeed. He is after all a Hab.

      The contract he received was…not his fault.
      Is it deserved? Not after last season.
      Over priced? Not so much, if he redeems himself this season.
      Can he do better? We’ll see, only time will tell.

      Point is he will not get taller anytime soon and his loss of weight in the off season does not, in my mind, equal speed. Keep in mind I do not discriminate talent from height. It’s the DD intangibles I wonder most of.

      I told a poster earlier that his loss of “fat” was irrelevant, fat weighs less than muscle, so, what does DD losing 7 ponds in the off season have anything to do with him losing anything less but muscle? Nothing. Absolutely nothing! Think about it. DD was not 7 pounds of “fat” heavier last year but 7 pounds of muscle heavier.

      Look at PK, his progression has been well documented, he keeps getting bigger (not taller or fatter) bigger and fitter. And we all see the results on the ice. He is an athlete.
      I saw DD floundering on the ice like a fish out of water more then any fish caught in a tournament here in Key West. He was brutal(y) crashed to the ice with ease. Easily muscled off the puck. Easily eased away from threat when it came to the corners in the offensive zones. He was out-matched in face-offs. He was… a sorry sight all season and don’t tell me you weren’t on the edge of the couch watching him on the PP… for all the wrong reasons.

      I just had an epiphany, my writing this was not a justification on my unwarranted disdain of DD and his play or contract. Nor is it a last ditch at redemption for perhaps hidden animosity toward what may be perceived as an under-qualified athlete on mine or anybodies part. My point comes from a gut feeling. He’s too f2ck!ng small for this team! If the Habs had a roster of giants then DD would be free to roam like the road-runner Cournoyer back in the 60’s and early 70’s.

      Sadly it’s not the case.

  62. JohnBellyful says:

    And you thought Marchand was ugly. THIS is ugly.
    (But he did make the Top 5.)

  63. habsfanforever7631 says:

    Great interview with Tony Marinaro and Marc Bergevin.

    This guy says it like it is, he doesn’t shy away, or try to skate around questions.
    My favorite part of the interview
    Tony: When are you going to join Twitter?
    Bergevin: What is that?

    • slyCH says:

      That was hilarious.

      Also liked the Price bit and MB’s misdirection answer.

      Marinaro did a great job asking questions I would ask myself and MB answered masterfully.

      • habsfanforever7631 says:

        Yeah you could tell that MB got uncomfortable when it came to Price.
        When he was rating the character, speed, and depth, I didn’t expect him to give actual numbers. That was cool.

        He will answer any question you ask him to the best he can. I like that about him.

        And yeah amazing questioning by Tony!

    • SmartDog says:

      Nice to see Marinaro get a some praise.

      No question he’s a bit of a tool but his interviews (like this one) are sometimes very good because he’s a little whacky and will ask less conventional questions.

      Can you smell what the dog is sniffin?

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