Canadiens sign St. Denis, assign new numbers

St. Denis
The Canadiens have signed defenceman Frédéric St. Denis to a one-year, two way contract.
Smen who remain unsigned are RFAs P.K. Subban and Raphael Diaz (who filed for salary arbitration on Thursday), plus UFA Chris “He’s So Outta Here” Campoli, whose Canadiens’ jersey number has been reassigned.
Unsigned forwards are RFAs Lars Eller, Blake Geoffrion and Aaron Palushaj.

Brandon Prust becomes the only Canadien wearing a single-digit jersey number. He has been number 8 throughout his career and will keeep that number with the Canadiens.

Francis Bouillon was number 51 during his first stint with the team, but David Desharnais has that number. So Frankie the Bull becomes number 55.

Colby Armstrong was number 9 in Toronto, but the lifelong Canadiens fan knows that ain’t happening here. So he’ll wear number 20.

And Rene Bourque will be shedding number 27 to become 17, the number he wore with some success in Calgary. Campoli won’t be needing it anymore … at least not in blue-blanc-rouge.

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St.  Denis’s 17-games with the big club included the Canadiens final seven games of the season.

His ToI  during that stretch varied betweens 14 and almost 20 minutes, including service on the PK.

The team announcement:

Montreal Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin announced today the signing of defenseman Frédéric St-Denis to a one-year, two-way contract (2012-13). As per club policy, financial terms of the agreement were not disclosed.

St-Denis, 26, completed his fourth season in professional hockey in 2011-12. The defenseman notched three points (1 goal, 2 assists) in 17 games with the Canadiens, including his first NHL game on November 16 against the Carolina Hurricanes. He recorded 11 shots on goal, seven hits, 21 blocked shots and served 10 penalty minutes. St-Denis maintained a +3 plus/minus differential while averaging 14:31 of ice time per game.

The 5’11’’, 182 lbs defenseman finished tied for first among Bulldogs’ defensemen with 28 points (3 goals, 25 assists) in 58 games with Hamilton during the 2011-12 regular season. Two if his goals were scored on the powerplay. St-Denis led the Bulldogs’ defensemen in assists (25). He also collected 114 shots on goal and served 18 penalty minutes.

A native of Greenfield Park, Quebec, St-Denis signed with the Canadiens as a free agent on July 1, 2010.

Who’s who in the CBA negotiations

This is very cool

396 Comments

  1. DorvalTony says:

    2911

    And what of Staubitz, what of Staubitz?

  2. boing007 says:

    Alex Galchenyuk, Sebastian Collberg, Tim Bozon, Charles Hudon, Erik Nystrom.

    Let’s hope that they all make it to the big show in Montréal and bring back consistent, winning ways.

    Richard R
    Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  3. Un Canadien errant says:

    So if I’m Gary Bettman, I’m an abhorent toad, a disagreeable little twerp who got to be that way because in school I got bullied constantly, because back then I was a toad and a little twerp. But that’s neither here nor there.

    So if I’m Gary Bettman, I’m currently spending every waking hour scheming against the players, preparing for a lockout to hammer down the players from a current 57% share of the revenue down to 50%. I’m doing so with no real justification, after all league revenues are growing every year, money is pouring in, but my hero/buddy who never returns my calls David Stern did it to his bunch of selfish crybaby millionaires, so I want to show him I can do it too.

    But if I’m Gary Bettman, what I really should be doing is working in partnership with my partners the players, like I said I would, to grow the game and the revenue pie so that everybody wins, the owners, the fans, my partners the players… They’re my partners, I said so after the lockout back in 2005. When I say something I mean it. Look past the smarmy rictus that I pass off as a smile, and you’ll see I’m being honest.

    So if I’m Gary Bettman, I trundle into the boardroom at the next General Managers meeting, reach way, way up with my briefcase and just manage to slide it onto the table, then hop up on a footstool which allows me to jump onto my chair at the head of the table. I reach into the box of pastries with both hands and pull out a Timbit, which I proceed to take huge bites of while I exchange pained, rote pleasantries with GM’s in the immediate vicinity, waiting for everyone to file in and take their seats. Once they’re all settled in, I clear my throat and address the crowd.

    “Okay I asked to address the General Managers at these meetings because we need to take the game in a new direction. You guys are in charge of reviewing the rules of play, and you tinker and you finagle, but while you’re fiddling Rome burns. Hockey is growing, but a lot of that is due to social media and the zillion channel universe and the PVR. Live sports on TV as a whole are growing, but we’re not growing as fast as other sports grow, so we need to address that.

    “I’m going to give you some clear direction of where I want you to take NHL hockey. The objectives I will give you will be clear and measurable, and you will achieve them or…

    “Burkie! Stop messing with your tie! Leave it on or take it off! Decide and stick with it!”

    A voice from the back of the room is heard: “I have a pretty good tie that used to be highly prized, it’s barely out of fashion, if he’s interested I can let him have it for…”

    I interrupt: “Chiarelli, stop messing with Brian. He’ll rent a barn for you just as soon as he’d rent one for Kevin Lowe.

    “Anyway, as I was saying, I want to increase the popularity of the game, and I want you guys to make it happen by reaching these targets.

    “First, the average goals scored per game per team was around two and a half. I want that north of four, so that by the end of the 2013-14 season, we have at least one eighty-goal scorer a season, a couple of seventy-goals scorers, and at least half the teams in the league with a fifty goal scorer in their lineup. I don’t care how you make it happen.”

    “Um, I don’t know how that’s possible,” says Dale Tallon, scanning his reserve list and annual budget.

    “Look,” I say, “whenever I watched a period this year, I’d see lots of shooting, but nothing going in the net. Hell, there was this guy Cal Gill, played for the Devils I think, I’d see him lying on the ice during the penalty kill. Make him stop doing that. Make the guys who shoot able to shoot more and score more.”

    “It’s not that easy,” says Chuck Fletcher, “some teams are coached with a philosophy to stop goals from being scored, instead of trying to generate goals. These teams usually don’t have the talent to compete with the skilled skating teams, so they…”

    “Well stop them from stopping so many goals. Hell the other day, I came across this book.” I pause theatrically and snap open my briefcase. I rummage through the mass of documents, contracts between Jeremy Jacobs and Ed Snider and me, envelopes with pictures of Brendan Shanahan and Alyonka Larionov, and pull out the NHL Rulebook and hold it up triumphantly.

    “So I was flipping through it, and I don’t understand, but a lot of the stuff that’s in here and is supposed to be illegal, it happens all the time when I’m watching games. I don’t know if I’m catching the wrong five minutes, but it says there’s no tripping allowed, but I see players tripping each other all the time. During the five minutes I’m watching. Same goes for holding, lots of holding going on. Boarding, elbowing, spearing, that’s all I see, but what I don’t see is your referees enforcing the NHL Rulebook.

    “The thing is, Mr. Bettman,” says Director of Officiating Terry Gregson, breaking the uncomfortable silence in the room, everyone acting as if I’d sopped up the drool on Colin Campbell’s chin with the rest of my Timbit and popped it into my mouth, “with respect, uh, to your full grasp of the nuances of the game of hockey, what the referees do is try to strike a balance between offence and defence, and not inject themselves too much into the game…”

    “Defence? We’re trying to strike a balance for defence? You morons, what other sport out there favours defence over offence? Football is all about the long bomb to wide receivers! Who’s the stars in football? Cinco de Mayo, and T.O., the Jerry Rice of Wide Receivers, those guys are the stars. Not the guys who try to stop them, not the guys who do the tackling. I was talking to David Stern, and he was saying when they were changing rules, they were writing them with Magic and Jordan and Bird in mind, not Bill Laimbeer. Who the hell buys a ticket or tunes in to watch Bill Laimbeer? So why do we want to balance it out? I say tilt the balance in favour of Magic and Bird, that’s what you guys are going to do, and get me an 80 goal-scorer.”

    “I think I understand what you’re saying,” Steve Tambellini says, “and we’re actually moving in that direction. For example, we’ve been discussing the hand pass for a couple of seasons now, and I think we have it settled that…”

    “Tambellini, you ‘understand’,” and here I do the air quotes with my fingers, and I really slay him, “as well as your team does in the standings! Hand pass?!! Enough with the handpass! You guys are killing me with the handpass! I’ve had it. My nephews are always asking me about the handpass, why it’s not allowed but everyone’s grabbing the puck, why there’s never a penalty, and I don’t know what to tell them. All those guys have sticks, why don’t they use them? It’s so simple: touch the puck with your hand, you get a three minute penalty….

    “What’s that Terry? Two-minute penalty? Fine, fine, whatever, the thing is back in the day when I couldn’t score a Knick ticket and watched a Rangers game, there was this guy with curly hair, kind of a dude, he dated supermodels, Steve Vickers was his name I think, and he’d take the puck out of the air, but drop it on the ice and play it with his stick right away, and that was cool, everyone got that, but…

    “What’s that Glen? Ron Duguay? Whatever, the thing is, enough with the hand pass and tinkering, I want you guys to think big. Get me some goals. Work on things like offsides. Whenever something cool is about to happen, some guy is skating fast with the puck and I tell myself that ‘Hey, hockey can be pretty exciting’, something happens and the whistle goes and apparently it’s offside or something, and I change the channel to the Heat game . My nephews always ask me, what’s offside, what’s a delayed offside, and I don’t know what to tell them. Why don’t we relax about the offsides. Let these guys get going instead of making them stop at all those lines everywhere, and have these boring faceoffs that take forever.”

    “Well, Gary,” George McPhee tries to explain, “if we didn’t have the offside rules, some guys who don’t play hockey the way it should be played might be tempted to just loaf in front of the opposite goalie and not backcheck, and just wait for the puck there. So the offsides force those guys to come back into their zone, and then the whole team has to break out as a unit.”

    “Again with that thing about backchecking. You guys are obsessed. We build big building with big ice, yet you guys want everyone clumped together like a frigging dogpile. Whenever I tune in, I see a couple of minutes of a cluster in the corner, and then it moves into the other corner, and then the goalie freezes the puck and now there’s a cluster in front of the goalie, and then I see a lot of cross-checking and spearing and punching, but never a frigging penalty. So instead of backchecking and dogpiles in the corner George, why don’t we try to use the entire 500 ft of ice we have and pay for?

    “What’s that Terry? 200 ft? Anyway, if you want to prevent someone from loafing in front of the other team’s net while the puck is in his end, why don’t you write a rule about that, instead of these stupid offsides that always stop the play. When I watch the Penguins, I want to see Crosby and Malvechkin racing down the ice and catching long stretching passes, not whistles and faceoffs. I want to see long bombs from the quarterback, not mucking in the corners.

    “I was talking to David Stern, and he says their rule on illegal defences works like gangbusters. Why don’t we do that, have an ‘illegal offence’ rule, we see a guy loafing, that’s a penalty, and we actually call the penalty, Terry.

    “Another thing that made me spit up my Yoo-hoo when I was reading your ‘rulebook’,” and I do the air quotes again, ’cause I’m really on a roll, “is that you guys allow slashing, as long as it’s not too bad. I couldn’t believe my eyes. I had to read it again, but there it was, plain as day, Rule 61.1. I’m going to read it to you guys, so you know what I’m talking about. It says: Slashing is the act of a player swinging his stick at an opponent, whether contact is made or not. Non-aggressive stick contact to the pant or front of the shin pads, should not be penalized as slashing. Any forceful or powerful chop with the stick on an opponent’s body, the opponent’s stick, or on or near the opponent’s hands that, in the judgment of the Referee, is not an attempt to play the puck, shall be penalized as slashing.

    “You guys are all nodding like this makes sense! I just told you I want more scoring, and you’re going to allow players to slash each other? And have Terry’s group of talented, dedicated refs,” and I nail it, I say it with a straight face, “make the decision whether it’s aggressive or non-aggressive? Don’t these guys struggle with all the rules already? Shouldn’t we lighten the load? Isn’t it easier to just say the stick is for playing the puck? If it touches the other player that’s not allowed? How simple is that? Won’t that make Crosby and Stamkhouse and all the other great players I could name off the top of my head score more goals if they’re not getting slashed constantly? Because if I watch a game for five minutes, and believe me I do, that’s all I see, is these guys getting slashed and diced. Get rid of that interpretation. Get me some goals.”

    Everyone is quiet, they’re taking it in. Dean Lombardi looks a little pale. Garth Snow is agitated, his hair in tangles, he’s wiping his shiny forehead on his threadbare lapel.

    “Everything okay Garth?”

    “Uh, sir yes sir, Mr. Commissioner, your highness. It’s just that, uh…”

    “Spit it out son.”

    “Um, shouldn’t we talk to the owners about this?” He’s frantically typing on his cellphone. Holy crap, is that a Palm Treo? I think it’s got duct-tape on it!

    “Garth, I have the full support of ownership on this. They want more revenue, as long as that happens, they wouldn’t care if we started playing lacrosse.”

    “I don’t know if it’s possible,” says Jim Rutherford, doubtfully, looking at me anxiously, “to increase scoring this much, without doing something crazy like making the nets bigger.”

    “Well let’s make the nets bigger, for crying out loud! I don’t care if they are!” Rutherford is crushed. Doug Armstrong looks like he’s about to faint. I decide to pile it on.

    “Actually, it’s probably high time we made them bigger. Just the other day, I was introduced to Anil Francis, apparently he used to play goal for the Rangers. The guy is tiny, a pipsqueak, he barely towers over me, and the guy was a pro goaltender. Have you seen the size of goalies nowadays? Pecker Reenay looks like Shaq! He’s three times the size of goaltenders from the fifties, when hockey was invented.

    “In baseball, they move the mound back or forward if the pitchers or hitters have too much of an advantage. Well in our game, the goalies have too much of an advantage. Let’s move the goalposts out a bit.”

    The room is stunned. I can hear the air coming out of the HVAC system. Snow is having a meltdown. I continue while I have the floor.

    “Anyway,” I continue, “the second thing you guys are going to work on is injuries. This season we just finished up, we lost 1700 man games due to head injuries. On 90 players. That’s way, way high. And you know what, the guys sitting on the sidelines don’t come cheap, there’s guys like Chris Pronger, Sidney Crosby, Bryan Miller… Cripes, Mark Savant is still on the Boston payroll, he hasn’t played in years.

    “Garth, you were asking about the owners, well they don’t like paying salaries to guys who are sitting out. So you and your colleagues, you’re going to slash that number by half. So we say 1700 man-games, half of that is 850, and let’s round down to make it an easier number to work with, so let’s say 800. 800 man games is your objective gentlemen, make it happen.”

    “How are we going to get that done?” It’s David Poile, and he’s livid. “It’s not an achievable target. Hell, I tried to do my part, I cut Tootoo loose, but Ken Holland here just goes and snaps him right up, and now we have to play against him and his friggin’ elbows. I mean, I love the kid like a son, after all he’s been through, but he plain can’t play hockey!”

    “Look, you’re just going to have to make it work. I don’t want to see Keith Duncan going after one of the Sundin twins again, that was kind of dodgy, and I don’t know if we convinced everyone that we handled it properly Brendan. Brendan? Brendan! Put the camera down, pay attention! So we have to edumacate the players, make sure they understand, the point of the game is to put the puck in the net, not to separate the other guy from his brain.”

    “Well Gary,” says Bryan Murray, and I try to keep a straight face, even with his lisp, “we can bring down the games lost due to concussions, but the suspensions will spike up like crazy, we’ll have problems putting a team together with all the guys suspended. So we’re just robbing Peter to pay Paul.”

    “Geez, I know GM’s are mostly former players, you’re not like rocket scientists and economics majors. Right Réjean? Réjean?… What’s that Bill? He’s not here anymore? Who? Mark? Marc? Since when? Pierre who?…

    “Anyway, like I was trying to say, figure it out, Einsteins. If a star player is out injured, that’s $5M or more in salary that the owner is paying for a guy who isn’t on the ice and not drawing in viewers and spectators and selling hotdogs and jerseys and beers, and so on. But if a player is suspended, it’s most likely a chump who’s pulling in a million or less, one of those ‘checkers’ you guys are so fascinated with somehow, no one cares, the fans still watch. And that chump’s salary is paid into the Former Players Emergency Assistance Fund,” and I do well here, I catch myself and don’t do the air quotes.

    “So we don’t care if players get suspended, we want fewer injuries in general, and fewer head injuries in particular. Go to town gentlemen, on this one you don’t have two seasons, you have one. Next April, we’ll have less than 800 games lost due to head injuries, and if it means a zillion suspensions and a zillion in fines, that I don’t care about. Got it Brendan?”

    “I don’t know if that’s going to be enough Mr. Bettman.” It’s Scott Howson. Somehow, he seems perched precariously on the chair, like he’s about to be unseated. He’s grimly, barely hanging on. “It will take a time to change players’ habits.”

    “Look, you guys are the experts, you’re the ones in charge of the rules, you come up with the answers. There’s other things to try. Bob Cherry was snarling at me the other day about soft padding on equipment. That makes sense to me, don’t have the guys’ elbows wrapped in steel and dunked in concrete, maybe they don’t swing them around so much. Try that. Shouldn’t take you too long.”

    “Shouldn’t we contact the owners on this?” Garth Snow again. He’s in a flop sweat. “I’d hate to make a decision. I mean, we’d hate to make a rash decision. We should really call the owners. Let’s call the owners…” He’s put down the pieces of his Palm, and now is reaching for the house phone on the wall behind him.

    “Garth, Garth, I’ve spoken to Charles personally, and he told me to tell you that you don’t need to do anything, I’ve already got his okay, I’ll cast his vote for you.”

    He slumps back in his chair, relieved. He takes out a Bic pen and a Texas instrument calculator out of his crumpled paper shopping bag and starts to write stuff down on a curiously large stack of hotel stationery.

    “Okay, the third thing is you guys as a group are going to get me is a 20% increase in TV ratings in three years. I think this one’s a gimme for you guys. If you do the first two things I asked you, this one will follow automatically. But I want you to show me your plan for an increase in eyeballs, irrespective of the increase in excitement due to more stars actually being on the ice and scoring more.

    “I want you guys to showcase the stars. I want someone going after Wayne Gretzky’s records, and the same hype there was for Mark McGwire when he went after Roger Maris’ record. I want you to make these guys household names in the States like they are up in Canada.

    “I was talking with David Stern the other day, and he was raving about meeting a nice young man, Jarome Iginla. I wrote the name down, found out apparently he plays for Calgary. Anyway David couldn’t stop raving about what a great kid this rookie is. Pipe down Bill, let me finish! Anyway, David said this kid had a good posture, clean cut, handsome face, nice smile, firm handshake, well-spoken, and anyway he was jealous of us, can you believe it, the guy envies us that we have a great young player like that as a representative of our game. He went on and on about how after Steve Nash and Grant Hill and Dirk Nowitzki, it’s pretty slim picking in his league, it’s all tattoos and tough guy attitude and gangbanger wannabes.

    “So I asked around, ’cause this kind of twigged me, and everyone kind of agrees, everyone I ask, that NHL players are the good guys, the nicest guys of any team sports. So why don’t we promote that? We should have these guys front and centre, on every show. If our guys are scoring a bunch and the games are exciting and there’s a buzz around hockey, we’ll have our guys on Carson instead of baseball players.

    “So that’s it boys, there’s your mission. I want scoring to increase to greater than four goals per game per team on average, so we have one 80 goal-scorer in the league as a minimum in two seasons time. I want head injuries to drop below 800 man games lost by next season. And I’m giving you three years to increase our TV ratings by twenty percent.”

    “Or else what?” barks Brian Burke pugnaciously. He’s been fulminating belligerently all meeting long.

    “Or else, you guys aren’t in charge of the rules anymore, I’ll hand it over to a committee made up of Viktor Tikhonov, Ken Dryden, Roy McGregor and Cassie Campbell.”

    “Help me down,” I say to Bill Daly while the room pulses with cries of anguish and howls of outrage, “and hand me my briefcase. If I hurry, I may be able to catch David at the office before he heads out to lunch. I don’t know what it is, I get there earlier and earlier every day, but somehow I always miss him.”

  4. Timo says:

    Man, this is really going to be boring between now and late Sept, isn’t it?

  5. RobertAlanFord says:

    I have nothing against Bourque. For the money he’s a darn good deal. I think the issue everyone is having is he’s not the kind of player that any of us have in mind when completing a trio for Plekanec and Gionta. Bergevin has bulked up the bottom six a bit so fans would expect to swap Bourque and change for a more offensively renowned player.

    The inner armchair GM tells me that Dallas would be a good first doorbell to ring and inquire about Eriksson’s availability. But that’s just me.

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  6. neutral says:

    you’re trying to convince yourself we have a better team because we brought in a couple of tougher guys that Boston or Philly won’t be scared of. nice to make the team tougher agree 100% a couple of more would even be better but if we don’t get more scoring up front it’ll be a joke like last year. not sure where we’ll end up but it won’t be a playoff position…..

  7. SlovakHab says:

    “…Bourque is returning to the number he wore for three seasons in Calgary when he racked up 75 goals and 148 points in 211 games…”

    Everybody has been saying that he sucks – but 148 points in 211 games are pretty decent numbers! The potential to be a good top-6 or a high-end 3rd liner with size is there, I see no reason to throw him under the bus without giving him a full season until stable management and decent coaching.

  8. RobertAlanFord says:

    Looks like Luongo is headed back to FLA

  9. commandant says:

    I was kinda hoping PK would grab his old Belleville #6 as it is now available with Spacek gone.

    But if we want to push to retire Toe Blake’s number I’m down with that too.

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  10. Chuck says:

    Regarding the posts below about retiring Toe Blake’s number: absolutely. And even if you don’t think his playing days are worthy of the honour, then his coaching days certainly are. How about a BLAKE banner hanging from the rafters with a fedora on it?

    And while we’re talking number retiring, why doesn’t Vezina have a banner with his #1?

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  11. krob1000 says:

    If we are looking for a stay at home tough guy….Jim Vandermeer fits the bill….

  12. HFX-HabFan says:

    See if Nashville would take Kaberle off our hands.

    Send one of our (three) second rounders or a later round pick and Weber to San Jose for Murray or Vlasic (preferably Murray).

  13. “It’s going to be team first,” he said. “He’s going to give a lot to the guys who work their ass off. He doesn’t like the lazy guys or the guys who think they have good skills and they don’t have to work. He likes the rough game, and if you don’t play rough or don’t show up and want to win, he’s going to play somebody else.

    “He’s pretty intense in everything he does … he wants to win,” Bouillon added. “He was my pick (for Canadiens coach). He’s got character, and I think right now what they need to bring that team back on the right track is a coach who has character and who’s going to put all the boys together and believe in his team.”

    Dear Francis, you’re 36, lick lick lick, time to give it up, lick lick lick.

    How I missed you coming back goes to show how much interest I put into this season’s signings.

    OK back to my island vacation :)

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    • What is with the licking?????

      At first I thought it was a typo for tick tick tick as in father time catching up, now I’m just weirded out LOL.

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      • D Mex says:

        Weirded out ? Tell me about it.

        The insinuation is that Cube is kissing up to Therrien, and it’s ludicrous. Bouillon is a character player – diminutive in stature but 200% on the heart and guts scale. My read of the quote is that he knows what to expect from Therrien, and is looking forward to delivering.

        I really admire when guys come on here and post things about players that they would never say to their face : it talks to their own character and is the absolute antithesis of what Francis Bouillon is all about.

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      • boing007 says:

        Like a puppy dog licking his master’s face.

        Richard R
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    • Marc10 says:

      Nothing out of place with those comments. Cube and MT go back a long way. They’ve won together…

      I would say it’s a very accurate assessment of how MT will run the ship. Bergevin is also of that mindset. Get ready for some accountability and a bit more grit.

      • boing007 says:

        And more boring hockey. Oh boy, dumping the puck in the zone, grinding in the corners, digging out pucks, cycling the net. How about a few more skilled players? Crisp passing and lightning quick breakouts, 2 on 1s, 3 on 1s that actually score? Beginning to look like Goon hockey is what MB’s plan is all about. Grumpy, no?

        Richard R
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  14. LA Loyalist says:

    When are we getting Prust’s brother, Marcel?

  15. boing007 says:

    Rocket Richard:
    Height 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m)
    Weight 180 lb (82 kg; 12 st 12 lb)

    Toe Blake:
    Height 5 ft 10 in (1.78 m)
    Weight 162 lb (73 kg; 11 st 8 lb)

    Smurfs? Vote now.

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    • LA Loyalist says:

      The whole world was smaller then.

      The TV was black and white. Drinks were 8 ounces.

      Sticks and soccer players were straight.

      Beer came in stubby bottles.

      Can it be that it was all so simple then?

      Or has time rewritten every line?

      Men were men and sheep were nervous…

      … sigh, think I’ll go watch another episode of Mad Men.

      • shootdapuck says:

        No! drinks were 6 oz and came in glass bottles.

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      • boing007 says:

        Men were men and sheep were nervous…

        You got that one from Monty Python, right?

        Reminds me of a Playboy cartoon that I saw over 40 years ago. A pastoral scene showing a shepherd just buttoning up his pants and a sheep standing just beside him asking sheepishly ‘when will I see you again’?

        Richard R
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    • HabinBurlington says:

      ?

  16. harrow15 says:

    So is Galchenyuk, Collberg, Thrower and Bozon playing for Hamilton next season or still with their respective clubs? Not sure how it works, but I imagine Hamilton could use their help.

    • commandant says:

      They will stay with their clubs.

      Simplified rule (with some exceptions) most guys will not play in the AHL until they are 20

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    • SlovakHab says:

      Nope.
      Actually, Hamilton will have too many young players graduating to play in AHL and they definitely don’t need any more youngsters.

      Moreover: Galchenyuk cannot play in AHL
      Collberg has said he will stay in Sweden for 1 more year.
      Bozon and Thrower certainly can use 1 more year in junior.

  17. EasternOntarioHabsFan says:

    We should really take a long look at signing Paval Kubina or Trading for Erskine, it really is a crying shame that it has not happened yet. It would make us a playoff team in my opinion, these moves mean a clear crease, and a focused and unharmed Carey Price, both of which would go a long way.

    Like this:
    Pacioretty – Deharnais – Cole
    Bourque – Plekanec – Gionta
    Moen – Eller – Armstrong
    Prust – Nokia – White
    Blunden

    Markov – Emelin
    Subban – Georges
    Erskine/Kubina – Boullion
    Kaberle

    Price
    Budaj

    Next year, we roll into Boston with this lineup and run the Bruins out of their own building.

    end of story.

    • Insomnius says:

      Alright! Someone who see the Habs lineup like I do :)

      Consider me delusional but I think Gionta is going to light a fire under Bourque – I would not want to be on the bench after dogging it for a shift or two and have one of the smallest players in the league getting in my face – which is exactly what I would hope Gionta would do. I hope for better things from Bourque this year. Also – I think our 4th line might involve Gomez at some point…

  18. thehabsfan29 says:

    I really think the habs should look into signing brett clark
    has had really solid numbers over the past 7 seasons and he shouldn’t be that expensive. (really think it should be a priority to try and sign him and hopefully find a way to trade kaberle)
    i would take clark over diaz,kaberle or weber any day.

    if we were looking to add a forward the two that stand out are wellwood and huselius.

    Mueller is very injury prone and not worth the risk at all

    Thoughts?

  19. Ozmodiar says:

    Our D is pretty much set for this year.

    Gorges/Subban
    Markov/Emelin
    Kaberle/Frankie
    Diaz/Weber

    If there’s a move I think it will be a trade involving Weber. His replacement will be St.Denis, a rugged depth d-man, or they’ll just go with 7.

    I suspect they’ll keep Kaberle for a while until they know Markov is healthy. I can see him being moved at the deadline. Hopefully he’ll put up some points in the meantime.

    I see the obvious problems with this D, but i think this is what they’ll go with in 2012/13.

  20. Rad says:

    I have to believe Bergevin is going to acquire a couple of rugged defensemen before the season starts. Probably this will happen via trades, and the names going out of Montreal will be usual suspects Bourque, Kaberle, Diaz, Weber, even Kristo and Gionta. Longer term, we have some size on D coming up with Tinordi and Greg Pateryn.

  21. Habitant in Surrey says:

    …well, not much significant happening …so, if Y’all do not mind, I would like to broach a subject I have long felt overdue
    …Our younger members likely don’t give a hoot one way or other, but for Us older Cary Grant-types out there in the Hab Universe, I have been bewildered WHY ??? Toe Blake’s Number 6 has not had the clamor or honor to be retired as was Elmer Lach’s
    …Toe was an NHL scoring leader, a key component on Our Habs ‘Punch Line’ with Maurice and Elmer
    …Toe was a ‘heart & soul’ Player as well Our Coach at the cusp of Our Golden Era
    …Toe was the coaching genius that brought it all together at a time that took the history of Our Team to another level, separating Us conclusively from the pack of other NHL teams
    …the totality of His meaning to Our history seems taken for granted, and His number 6 has equal relevance to any numbers hanging today from Our rafters, short of the numbers 9 and 4
    …Dave Stubbs did whatever He could to see Elmer Lach’s number honored, and at the time, I wondered ‘gee, Toe deserved it as much as Elmer’
    …I know the in-the-present is what ??? UFA, RFA or trade will come down next …but, I think there is one thing of the past that needs to be made right too
    …retire number 6 !!!

    Habitant means PASSIONATE HOCKEY
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    • Chris says:

      I think that Blake absolutely deserves to have his number retired. He led the Canadiens in scoring six times during his 13-year NHL career. His point-per-game average is right there with Elmer Lach, despite having the misfortune to start his career during the REALLY lean years of the mid 1930′s to early 1940′s, when the Canadiens routinely missed the playoffs or lost in the first round of the playoffs.

      Even without his coaching, he probably deserves it. But when you factor in his coaching career, he deserves some sort of banner in the rafters.

    • Ian Cobb says:

      I buy it completely Chris! He is a man that will live in infamy. Be nice to see someone pick up the slack on his contribution to great times.!

    • LA Loyalist says:

      agreed. I don’t mind our numbers looking like a football team :-)

    • sprague cleghorn says:

      Totally agree. His number should hang from the rafters and so should his fedora!

  22. Chuck says:

    Heh… looks like #27 has been freed up for Galchenyuk, just in case he needs it sooner rather than later. :)

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    • Bill J says:

      He won’t be wearing 27, he wears 94.


      #OperationGomezTirePump
      #OperationSubbanDeflatedSalaryExpectations

      Tweet it, talk about it. Let’s get rid of Gomez and sign Subban for cheap!
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    • RiverviewCanadien says:

      Nope.

      For the return of l’Artiste ;-)

      • Bill J says:

        Bite your tongue, and then bite it AGAIN!


        #OperationGomezTirePump
        #OperationSubbanDeflatedSalaryExpectations

        Tweet it, talk about it. Let’s get rid of Gomez and sign Subban for cheap!
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        • RiverviewCanadien says:

          I would take Kovalev on a short term, cheap contract, any day.

          Sue me, I was a big fan of his.

          • Bill J says:

            As I said earlier. I would sooner take back Andrei Kostitsyn.


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            Tweet it, talk about it. Let’s get rid of Gomez and sign Subban for cheap!
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          • Heisenberg_ says:

            Sue me? Better Call Saul!

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          • RiverviewCanadien says:

            Never would I take Andre over Alex. That’s just nuts.

        • commandant says:

          At this point in their careers I’d take Andrei too

          What is nuts is wanting Kovalev who has been a big zero for three years.

          Washed UP!

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  23. TomNickle says:

    The question of how Marc Bergevin has done so far is obviously premature but it’s near unanimous what this team has needed if it’s going to be dangerous for quite some time.

    1. More goal scoring.
    2. More rugged defensemen capable of preventing goals.
    3. More physical presences.

    The physical presence issue has been addressed at forward, but not on defense. This team was in the top third of the league in goals for and against during the first and second periods of hockey games last season. This despite the injuries. They were beaten and worn down. The team’s goal scoring woes could easily be solved by a healthy season at forward and more skill available at the professional level to compensate for injuries(Leblanc, Gallagher, Bournival) but Marc Bergevin hasn’t begun to address the weakness on defense.

    The biggest reason that this fan wanted change at the front office level was my perception regarding the previous organizational philosophy that the majority of the team’s defensemen be puck movers.

    I don’t see a change in this philosophy under Bergevin. He has Markov, Kaberle, Subban, Gorges, Diaz, Weber, Emelin and Bouillon.

    There is one player among that group who can actually keep opposing forwards out of Price’s face(Emelin).

    Not nearly enough. This team might give the majority of us false hope with good regular season results though that’s unlikely. If the playoffs are the goal, some big changes are needed on defense.

    Start with Subban, Gorges, Markov and Emelin. Trade or demote the rest and build around it.

    The biggest problem with this of course is that the free agent market is now stripped clean.

    I’m not holding my breath, for the changes in personnel or in the standings.

    • HabFab says:

      I agree…with your last sentence. The rest is under consideration, glad to see you back but really…such a long post :)

    • habstrinifan says:

      Hey Tom! How are you doing?

      Agree re need for tougher and reliable stay at home D-type. If this is not addressed then Bergevin must receive a minus on this item.

      Although people like Brookbank, Carle, O’Brien are gone there are still some reasonably good big tough and ‘inexpensive D men out there as UFA’S but we gotta act soon I think.

      Eminger from NYR is there (maybe not tough enough).
      Huskins from St. Louis is there. I think this guy is flying under the radar… has great plus minus stats.
      Scott Hannan from Calgary.
      Kurtis Foster from Minnesota is also available.
      There are others!!

      • TomNickle says:

        I actually think the ship has sailed on the UFA defensemen. I would however be looking at Kristian Huselius on a cheap one year deal if I were Bergevin.

        Fortunately for Bergevin rugged stay at home defensemen aren’t very expensive via the trade market. Hopefully he decides to change the guard.

        I’m doing great by the way. Thanks for asking.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      welcome back Tom. I agree 100%

      I don’t think we had the ponies to play in the free agent pond. Have to be patient!

    • TomNickle says:

      I heard Brian Wilde on the radio the other day. He sure seems to be investing a great deal of emotion into that season. I hope that Bergevin isn’t doing the same. Building for one year instead of sustained success is foolish and a recipe for failure. Like the Chicago Blackhawks for instance.

      • HabFab says:

        Never listen to him but his blog sounds like he is heading towards where your line of thought was heading…merging of the minds so to speak.

        • TomNickle says:

          I don’t necessarily agree with that philosophy though Frank. There were and remain stop gaps to be had which could make this team successful before the kids are ready.

          I can’t imagine that Douglas Murray and Mark Stuart or players like them have very expensive pricetags attached to them.

          Quick fixes.

    • HardHabits says:

      That article sounds familiar.

      It’s funny how the Internet is shaping attitudes and perceptions. Today, with technologically savvy people, it is much easier for new ideas to be put forth allowing for them to be either accepted or discarded. Nobody would have said let’s wait 2-3 years to build a contender 10 years ago. Now people actually know who the prospects are.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      Transparent, reckless plagiarism by Mr. Wilde. My factor shall be calling upon his factor.

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2012/06/is-there-method-to-canadiens-drafting.html

      • HardHabits says:

        What are you going to use as evidence? All my posts that you used as your source material!!

        Just kidding as you probably already know. BTW. Excellent article. I like how you explain the timeline between landing a goalie and building the defence next and supplementing it with the forwards at the end to allow for all the parts to coalesce at the same time. Kind of like timing one’s cooking with the rice first, the meat next cooked slowly and the veggies steamed for not too long so that it is all ready to eat at the same time with none of it under or over cooked.

        I also enjoyed reading your article more than I did Brian Wilde’s. And not a Mr. in sight!!! :-)

  24. Ozmodiar says:

    St. Denis signed, Diaz to arbitration. Kinda makes me wan ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz….

  25. habstrinifan says:

    OK … call me stoopid but I dont understand AK46 filing for salary arbitration.

    I thought salary arbitration applied only to RFA’S. I mean if you are UFA what’s the purpose of filing for salary arbitration… the club has cut you adrift?

    Rules eggheads (oops guys)???

  26. HardHabits says:

    I can’t wait until some Internet researcher, another in the long list of people who have too much time on their hands and spend much of it at a computer, present company excluded, churn out a long range analysis of all the best young prospects’ Corsi and Fenwick ratings throughout their careers from midget right on up to the NHL with graphs and pie-charts and much analysis with comments like, “to the uninitiated this might seem a foreign language” and “don’t take my word for it, you can ask my Twitter buddies” and “anybody who understands advanced statistics will also agree” to drive home the data. All this of course will be written in a new language called Corsi-Fenwick which only a few people will understand. The 10-20 people that read the article will be very impressed.

    • HabFab says:

      I thought they already did that next door?

    • Bill J says:

      All I was able to read was blablablablabla… But I detected a strong smell of sarcasm and humour :D

      I fully agree with ya Dave, so sick of advanced stats, corsi, and fenwick too. Why can’t we just watch the games, and make up our own minds. When did ultra geeks become “better Hab fans” because they could crunch numbers to “predict” the future.

      Argh!


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    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I can understand the instinct to dig deeper into received hockey wisdom, seeing as that was pretty effective with baseball and Moneyball. The problem with hockey as I understand it is that there is a lot more subjectivity in how the stats are awarded. In baseball, there will be some argument about whether a play was a hit or an error, but that’s about it. In hockey, I guess different rinks regard a giveway or a bodycheck with different standards. So I approach the subject with a suspicion that prevents me from really absorbing and understanding the material.

  27. Un Canadien errant says:

    Hi guys. All you need to know about waivers is contained in the two links below. Bookmark them and refer to the when needed.

    http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2009/11/26/1174855/waivers-101-a-guide-to-the-nhl

    http://habsprospects.hockeyhq.net/ (look for the ‘Waivers’ heading in the left hand column)

  28. frontenac1 says:

    Yee-ha! St.Denis signed! Ah what the Hell! Throw me another Sweet Cap Rosie,and make my next a double!

  29. EasternOntarioHabsFan says:

    Buying a Prust jersey tomorrow…………………..

    • Bill J says:

      Corsi, advanced stats, now advanced draft rankings.

      Aaaaaaarrgh!


      #OperationGomezTirePump
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    • ed lopaz says:

      so these guys take 1995 birthdates and check each league to see who had the best results.

      no offence,. but anyone can compile a list like that.

      of course, the Quebec list misses out on Jonathan Drouin who started his season in Midget AAA – by choice – and then moved up to Halifax in mid season.

      Since Drouin will play the entire next season with Mackinnon, and on many evenings it will be Drouin carrying the load, watch for his stock to shoot up the charts.

      Write the name down. he’s 1st round material.

      Anthony Duclair is dynamite as well. He’s on the list.

      Duclair is 3 zones, disciplined, and extremely talented. no weaknesses.

      I happen to know Wil Carriere quite well; very happy to see the young man doing so well.

    • Chris says:

      Can’t say I’ve seen anybody outside of the OHL, so I’ll just limit my comment to the Guelph Storm, who I see regularly:

      Jason Dickinson has a good chance to shoot up that second list. He came on strong in the second half and had a very good playoff. He grew quite a bit over the season and has speed, a great shot and doesn’t mind traffic.

      Not listed, but worth watching, is Hunter Garlent. He is not likely to become an offensive dynamo at the NHL level and his size (5’8″ and 159 pounds at the start of last season as a 16 year old) might continue to be an issue. But the kid never, ever stops working. Wonderful skater, and he’ll have a much bigger role on the Storm this coming season. He actually scored at a better rate than Dickinson last season, although mainly because he got more ice time early in the year. Garlent also has a very nice defensive game…could see him becoming a Mike Peca type player in the NHL if his offence doesn’t translate.

  30. kempie says:

    Dave Stubbs ‏@Dave_Stubbs
    #Habs Diaz files for salary arbitration

  31. HabFanSince72 says:

    OK, time for your Thursday evening debate.

    Does Mats Sundin belong in the NHL hockey hall of fame?

    In my opinion, it’s a ‘Nej’.

    Sundin was never nominated for a major award such as the Hart. Never was a first team all-star. Obviously never won the cup.

    I’d place him in the same category as a Jeremy Roenick or a Dave Andreychuck, or a Pierre Turgeon or a Bernie Nicholls (none of whom are in the Hall). Long consistent career, but never outstanding or dominant.


    Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • steve17 says:

      NO!!!!

      Habfan17

    • habstrinifan says:

      Based on hockey career .. not ahead of Shanahan no way.

      Based on hockey impact not ahead of Henderson no way.

      Comared to some already there… I am not gonna call it blatantly wrong.

    • Chris says:

      Well, I already posted my piece on his induction a week or two ago, but I’ll reiterate that I think Sundin is a Hall of Fame player.

      Put him on Colorado or Detroit or Dallas or New Jersey, and he’s got Stanley Cup rings and personal accolades.

      Conversely, throw Sakic onto the Leafs with the linemates that Sundin had to endure and I’m not sure that his career looks much different than Sundin’s. I think Sakic and Sundin were actually very similar players…Sakic was a no-brainer for me, and Sundin is not too far off.

      Sundin averaged 34 goals and 82 points per year (using an 82 game season as a base), compared to Sakic’s averages of 37 goals and 98 points per year. I don’t think Sundin gets to 98 points per year even with Sakic’s teammates, but he’s not far off. I do think he scores more than 37 goals per season.

      Sakic was a better passer, Sundin was more of a bull that you couldn’t easily stop. Both were classy players that let their play do the talking for them.

      Sakic’s teams did nothing when he had a comparable supporting cast to what Sundin had most of his career. His last five seasons saw the Avalanche: miss the playoffs once, lose in the first round once and lose in the second round three times. In his first seven seasons, his Nordiques teams missed the playoffs five times and lost in the first round twice. During the Avalanche’s successful window, he had Patrick Roy and Peter Forsberg as co-superstars on the team and a strong supporting cast of players that included (at various times) the likes of Claude Lemieux, Valeri Kamensky, Alex Tanguay, Rob Blake, Ray Bourque, Sandis Ozolinsh, Chris Drury, Milan Hejduk, Adam Deadmarsh and Adam Foote.

      That’s not to denigrate Sakic…he was one of the best players in the game. But I think the context of an elite player’s linemates is very important when one considers their careers. And on that front, Sundin was woefully supported by the Maple Leafs, much like Jarome Iginla has been with the Calgary Flames.

      But even if one doesn’t take his NHL accomplishments to be enough, Sundin’s international accomplishments, which rank as amongst the top-5 in the modern era (since the NHL has started sending professionals to the Olympics), are enough to cement his standing.

    • Un Canadien errant says:

      I have an anti-Maple Leaf bias, because I get sick of the hype. Everyone remember the Carlo Colaiacovo hype, we’d hear so much about this guy and what he would accomplish, and he’s now he’s a UFA, having not received a qualifying offer from the Blues.

      So when I analyze whether Mats Sundin ‘deserves’ to be in the Hall of Fame, my gut says no. He was not a dominant player, didn’t do anything singularly well. He was always overshadowed by other, better centres and scorers on other teams, but benefited from the Toronto spotlight trained on him.

      Having said that, when a repugnant human being of very doubtful talent such as Dino Ciccarelli is already in the HOF, then all of the above considerations go out the window. If a worm like him can pass the bar, then by all means, a true gentleman and dedicated player like Mats Sundin should waltz in on the first ballot.

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2011/10/does-sundin-deserve-to-have-his-leafs.html

      http://relentlessineptitude.blogspot.ca/2012/02/game-56-montreal-5-toronto-0.html

  32. Ian Cobb says:

    We now have much smarter management than that my friend. Would have been a huge blunder to sign him. The room is being put together with character and team players, not a fella like Jagr, who would destroy the room.

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    • Clay says:

      Ian, all accounts tell of Jagr being a great teammate and a hard worker. I don’t know how this translates to him destroying the room.

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  33. thehabsfan29 says:

    if jagr “really wanted to play in montreal”
    do you think that he would have accepted a 1 yr/1.5 or 2 mil deal if bergevin made the offer?

  34. gp52 says:

    mistake not signing jagr. he would have lit up the joint. Big deal so they would’ve had to overpay him a million or 2 for a year . they would’ve got that back 5 fold in hockey sweaters , caps and mug sales
    bergevin reminds me more and more of gauthier. 3 cheap signings, but nothing to indicate he has any balls or vision. Also not addresing our need for scoring.

  35. steve17 says:

    Speaking of numbers, That is one thing that the Leafs do better than the Habs. They hang numbers in honour of players and they do not retire them. If Geoff Molson wants to do something to restore tradition to the Habs, he should adopt the same remembrance as the Leafs do and hang the jerset’s in honour, with the exception of the Rocket’s number 9. It does not take away or tarnish the careers or memories of our past heros. Having a bunch of fottball numbers on the ice does take away from tradition. The management would still have the say on number assignments. Do you think it would hurt the family of Doug Harvey if Subban wanted to wear number 4 if Harvey was his hero? What about Serge Savard if Beaulieu really wanted to wear 18? Number 12 is retired for two players, does that diminish what they meant to the Habs or their accomplishments? NO! What about number 29 for Price? It is time to change this before the only numbers available are numbers over 40!

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      The Leafs haven’t had any players worthy of a Canadiens style retirement in ages. Sundin? Clark? Gilmour? Come on!


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • ZepFan2 says:

      Problem is, Beliveau wore #4 and NO WAY should it be worn by anybody else.

      Fyi, Harvey wore #2

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    • Price07 says:

      I agree, i find it would be more exciting to see new young stars wearing jerseys that were made famous in the past and continue on the tradition by being the modern version of those former greats. Every generation would have their own number “10″ they loved for example. I mean I’m interested in the habs history but I don’t need the numbers to be retired in order for me to look this stuff up. And as much as tons of older people think that number 10 (just an example) could only be worn by Guy Lafleur who they fell in love with all those years ago….well my generation (and al the subsequent ones) never saw him play. We know about him, we’ve heard great things, we know who he is! But we’ll never have the same love for him as those who watched him play. I would like to let a new generation of kids make these popular numbers famous again.

      • ZepFan2 says:

        So you’d be okay with someone like Gomez donning Lafleur’s #10?

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        • Bill J says:

          Tsk, tsk!

          wjc, our resident Gomez lover would tell you. If a retired # was to be stained by Gomez’s name. It would be #19.


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    • drivefor25 says:

      The Habs do tradition much better, with more class, than the Leafs. Doesn’t seem like you’re much on tradition, with your reference to Doug Harvey’s #4. #4 is and always will be Jean Beliveau’s number!

      Fan since ’71

      • steve17 says:

        drivefor25 – Sorry, had a brain cramp and I am very much big on tradition, hence the mention that the one thing the Leafs do better. Hockey has been traditionally numbers 1 to 30, 1 and 30 reserved for goalies. Montreal does do tradition better, that does not mean it can’t be improved. I have also been proud that the commentators and the announcers in Montreal always did their best to pronounce the names of the players correctly, with the exception of Dick Irvin.

        I may have poor typing skills and hit the 4 key instead of the 2 key, but I grew up a Hab fan and have read more books on the Hockey and the habs and I was in the Snowdon Brass when Doug Harvey hung out there, so maybe you think I am not much on tradition, but that is a poor assumption on your part. At least I am open to change and not stuck in the past. Seeing their jerseys hanging in the rafters would have the same significance even if the current players could wear them on the ice.

        Imagine 8 years form now, Subban has been a first team all start 4 times and has won the Norris the previous year. It is the first home game and during the anthem, he is looking up at number 19 hanging in the rafters and feeling the electricity knowing he shares that number and now Canadiens history with his hero.

        Habfan17

    • commandant says:

      I disagree, I love the honour given to our legends that no one else will wear their number.

      Who really cares if the new players have high numbers

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      • habs fan from st louis says:

        i am a life long habs fan here in st louis….i alwars enjoy reading your comments…..speaking of numbers, i hate that gomez took #11….he does not deserve to wear the same number as koivu, who was all heart.

      • steve17 says:

        That is the great thing we all are intitled to our opinions. I for one. don’t want to watch a bunch of players skating around wearing football numbers. That is part of what sets hockey apart.
        When you were a kid playing hockey, didn’t you want to wear your hero’s number? If Galchenyuk does indeed become a superstar, what harm would it cause if he wore number 12? the answer is none. Does it diminish the honour bestowed on Cournoyer and Moore because they have both had number 12 retired for them? No one else has had to share a retired jersey! Are there not other players who may have worn the numbers that are retired that should also be honoured up there with them?

        I don’t think you or I could answer that with any credibility since we didn’t see any of the players who played in the first 30 years of the team’s history.

        Toronto does this one thing better to me!
        Habfan17

    • Davery12 says:

      I totally agree….always thought that was one thing the leafs could do correctly…though i think #4 is as important s #9. :)

      • steve17 says:

        Yes, you have a point and I agree. Number 4 should also be left retired, Le Gros Bill is one in a million and means so much. When I played minor hockey in NDG, Belliveau came when we were doing a skate-athon and he skated with us. He made a point of taking time to skate and talk with each of us on the ice. He is a very special person!!

        Habfan17

    • JUST ME says:

      Do not worry about this being a problem. Do you see anyone wearing a Habs jersey or having worn the bleu-blanc-rouge in the last 20 years that will one day see his number retired ?
      This era is long gone !

    • Whatever says:

      New fan?

    • francbiss says:

      You probably are a Leafs fans to speak in such a way!!! every one in Habsland knows #4 is Beliveau Harvey is #2

    • commandant says:

      We can all agree that the Habs need more goal scoring, so how does trading a player who led the team in goals 2 of the last 3 years (and was injured the third season) help that? We need to add a 4th top 6 winger, not take one away.

      Go Habs Go!
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    • habstrinifan says:

      I prefer our method. I mean really… some of those numbers retired are verging on sacred. No way should they be worn again.

      Maybe 50 yrs from now they could do some sort of ‘reclamation’. Like they do with cemeteries or is that a gross analogy.

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      “Speaking of numbers, That is one thing that the Leafs do better than the Habs. They hang numbers in honour of players and they do not retire them.”

      This disgraceful comment demonstrates an ill formed understanding of the traditions of the Glorious Montreal Canadiens Hockey club.

      The retiring of sweater numbers is how we distinguish the “Guy Lafleurs” from the mere “Steve Shutts”

      The Toronto Maple Leafs employ a system that would see players like Saku Koivu receive the same honour and recognition as players like Jean Beliveau. The Toronto Maple Leafs need to paper over a long losing tradition by honouring good players as though they were great players.

      If and When the traditions Montreal Canadiens become as Pathetic as those of the Toronto Maple Leafs the CH will no longer have my support. I’m disgusted that you don’t recognise the significance of the honour bestowed a hockey by having his Jersey number retired by the Montreal Canadiens, never to be worn again by another player on that team.

  36. jedimyrmidon says:

    I, for one, am glad that MB is being patient in acquiring UFAs and doesn’t appear to put too much stock on last season’s individual player performances what with all the internal chaos and lack of vision pervasive throughout the organization.

    I believe the idea of acquiring pieces like solid 4th liners like Prust that are not coming up through Hamilton is a good idea and addresses an issue from last season in an immediate and relatively cost effective fashion instead of going straight for the Top 6 forward or for an expensive and lengthy D man signing.

  37. Bill says:

    This team could actually do some damage as it is, providing it doesn’t have another cursed season in terms of injuries.

    Nearly everyone here ignores just how badly injuries damaged the Habs’ season last year: they led the league with 440 man-games lost. Teams just don’t succeed when that happens.

    Injuries happen every year, but with an average number of injuries, this team could be good. All of the top four wingers are capable of 25 goals or more. Plekanec had a streak of five straight 20-goal seasons until last year. DD probably won’t hit 20, but he’ll be making the plays to Cole and Pac that led them both to career years.

    So that’s a lot of offence on the top two lines. Scoring depth is a concern, but Eller should hit 15 goals on the third line, and Armstrong has had some strong offensive years in the past. Along with Moen, it’s at least a big, tough line that plays from end to end and will chip in with some dirty goals.

    Prust, Nokia, and White give zero offence on the 4th line, but that’s not their job. Nokia wins face-offs, White and Prust chip it out and hit people all night.

    Markov, Subban, and Kaberle provide offence on the blueline, while Gorges, Bouillon and Emelin keep it real.

    Price will stop about 92% of the shots he faces, which should do the trick.

    If they can stay healthy, that’s actually a pretty decent roster. But if they lose another 400 games to injury, we’ll be eye-balling Nathan MacKinnon. That’s how it goes.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • Bripro says:

      “Nearly everyone here ignores just how badly injuries damaged the Habs’ season last year”

      I don’t think anyone forgets.
      It’s more a case of not overstating their chances, as many did last year, yours truly included.

      With the previous seasons’ playoff runs, most of us felt that we had the team to do it.
      This year, the roster isn’t much stronger, if at all…considering the loss of Cammy and AK.
      As well, including Kaberlazy in your choices for me…. well, I don’t think he’s very good.
      Fine he puts up numbers because he gets monster minutes on the PP.
      But in our zone, he’s weaker than Diaz. And he doesn’t hit.
      I’m glad they signed St Denis and I hope he takes up Kaber’s place.
      You’re right though. Injuries will make a difference. And if they can somehow stay healthy, for a change, then there’s a chance they’ll make the playoffs.
      But even with Carey, don’t expect them to go deep.
      We’re still missing a power wingman – or two – for Pleks, and a number one D-man.

    • steve17 says:

      Yes, with the chaos that the Ghost created and the crazy number of injuries, how can anyone really evaluate last years team. How could players play well wondering if they may be the next guy to be pulled off the ice, or stopped at the gate at the airport and told to go home and wait for news! There have been some bizarre stories in the NHL, but none compares to the Gauthier Gong Show~!!

      Habfan17

    • JUST ME says:

      I agree 100 % with your comments. They say injuries are part of the game but those took us out of the game even before the season began.

      I am not saying we have a powerhouse but if players like Gionta,Markov,Bourque,Gomez and others produce as they are able to, the ending will be totally different.

  38. Malreg says:

    Ya, we were Jagr’s first choice… Bullshit.

    Remember when he was in the KHL and he said he would come back to the NHL to play for Pittsburgh at the league minimum salary, beacause he owed it to Mario Lemieux?

    Of course then he just used Pittsburgh AND Montreal last summer to get more money from Philadelphia.

    • JUST ME says:

      The Jagr story is full of crap. If Mtl is such a historical team for him then why isn`t he playing here ?
      He is a master of manipulation to get a better deal elsewhere. Not the first time he uses Montreal as a negociation tool…

      4.5 mil ? No way, not worth it even with all his up sides !

  39. Bill J says:

    Hey Frank aka HabFab. You jokingly posted something earlier today. Made me think.

    Your not taking a hiatus again during the season this year are ya? And common…. Get a damned gravatar account!


    #OperationGomezTirePump
    #OperationSubbanDeflatedSalaryExpectations

    Tweet it, talk about it. Let’s get rid of Gomez and sign Subban for cheap!
    Go Habs Go!

  40. Bripro says:

    Did anyone bother reading who’s on the CBA negotiating committee?
    Did you notice how there’s not a single Canadian in the group?
    Our game, eh? Not according to Buttman!
    Give us back our game, ya little twerp!
    Start your own league of misfits!

  41. toinz says:

    From the New Jersey Star-Ledger

    With Zach Parise officially out of New Jersey and in Minnesota, the question becomes who fills the gap?…
    Brian Gionta
    He has two years left at $5 million each. Would the Canadiens be willing to part with him and send him back to New Jersey?

    http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2012/07/devils_who_fills_the_gap_left.html

    Question: Would you listen to offers for Gionta? And what would you expect in return from the Devils?

  42. sreuel says:

    Jagar said on sports net he never got a offer from Montreal. He wanted to play for us . Makes you think

    • Bill J says:

      …that when Bergevin said when he heard Jagr’s salary expectations he didn’t bother… He was telling us the truth!


      #OperationGomezTirePump
      #OperationSubbanDeflatedSalaryExpectations

      Tweet it, talk about it. Let’s get rid of Gomez and sign Subban for cheap!
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  43. ProHabs says:

    Would love to see Gomez go back to #91. That would be awesome.

    • habsfan0 says:

      Personally, I’d rather see him wear “00″.

      That way, he’ll stand out on the ice even more than usual.

    • Bill J says:

      nm that, I would love for him to go back to one of the following instead:

      - Alaska, one way ticket.
      - NY Rangers, Sather should suffer this albatross cap hit as compensation for having rapped the Habs of McDonagh.
      - The Devils


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      #OperationSubbanDeflatedSalaryExpectations

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    • sprague cleghorn says:

      it’s available in Hamilton.

      • Bill J says:

        And sprague sneaks in the winner!

        :D


        #OperationGomezTirePump
        #OperationSubbanDeflatedSalaryExpectations

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  44. habsnyc says:

    With four consecutive 30 goals seasons, a .144 shooting percentage and great size and durabilty, Bobby Ryan is a better and more consistent scorer than anyone who has played in Montreal in recent memory. Parise, who scored 30 or more in five of the last six seasons, received contract offers from 16 teams. 15 of those teams could use Ryan. I assume the bidding war will include draft picks and young talent. I am not sure if the time is right for Montreal to trade for him.

    Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

    • Bill J says:

      Hey was just reviewing your signature, just my two cents here.

      But since the red and white part is bang on.

      The blue part technically means Quebec/French. So at the very least, refer to it as “Blue for Schtroumph” no ?


      #OperationGomezTirePump
      #OperationSubbanDeflatedSalaryExpectations

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      • habsnyc says:

        good point. The question is did they get bigger or smaller for next year? They gave up Gill, Kositsyn, Darche, Staubitz and got Armstrong, Prust and Bouillon. The new players are smaller but more physical. I am not sure if I need to change the signature.

        Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

        • Bill J says:

          Huh?

          Umm, did you hear a 747 fly over your house just now ?

          Schtroumph = French version of Smurfs.

          #OperationGomezTirePump
          #OperationSubbanDeflatedSalaryExpectations

          Tweet it, talk about it. Let’s get rid of Gomez and sign Subban for cheap!
          Go Habs Go!

          • Un Canadien errant says:

            Actually, Smurf=watered down, Americanized version of les Schtroumpf, with none of the wit, charm and delight making it through the process.

            Les Schtroumpfs= perfectly baked fresh baguette

            Smurfs=stale, mouldy Wonderbread

          • Bill J says:

            I agree – but that seemed a bit much to explain the Key reason for my suggestion.

            I will never forget the first time I saw a English Smurfs episode on TV… I was like WTF (prolly about 7-8 years old) changed the channel to watch Goldorack instead.


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            #OperationSubbanDeflatedSalaryExpectations

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  45. LA Loyalist says:

    Do Habs have “Ice Girls”? I was at Kings’ practice rink a couple of weeks ago and they had the tryouts for the 12/13 “Ice Girls”. Lots of top-heavy failed actresses who can’t skate.

    And for the record, Ducks Ice Girls are way better looking.

  46. SmartDog says:

    5 -SERIOUS- QUESTIONS:

    1. With a healthy Markov, Gorges, Subban, Emelin, Diaz, St. Denis, Kaberle – is this an above average NHL D unit?

    2. I believe Bourque will bounce back with a 25 goal season. Yeah he will disappear some nights, but he’ll show up enough to earn a paycheck. Agree or disagree?

    3. Given that Bergevin and Therrien are both passionate, no-BS lunch pail guys, is there ANY way that Gomez WON’T get permanently parked in Hamilton this year? Or am I being optimistic?

    4. Who is more deserving to wear a Habs sweater, Darche or Frankie B? Does signing Frankie B make sense, or is this a local-boy-comes-home story the Canadiens management likes?

    5. How confident are you that the following guys within 2-3 years can be of REAL help to this team: a) Ghallager b) Tinordi c) Leblanc d) Beaulieu e) Galchenyuk

    SD

    ————————————-
    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      1. No – still shaky in the defensive zone.
      2. I feel there is a good chance Therrien will get Bourque motivated.
      3. Gomez will get a shot to make the team this year
      4. Bouillon makes sense as a 6 or 7th defenseman for a year.
      5. Tinordi, beaulieu will be REAL help and Galchenyuk will be HUGE. Keeping fingers crossed for Leblanc and Gallagher.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      1. You forgot Frankie the B. If Markov is the Markov of old, this is a pretty good D.

      2. No evidence exists to make me think that. Dude stopped caring a long time ago.

      3. No idea.

      4. The Bouillon signing is odd.

      5. All will be NHLers.


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

      • SmartDog says:

        2. For evidence (Bourque)
        a. he had back-to-back 27 goal seasons before coming here – he’s capable
        b. he arrives last year in a sh-tstorm mess – most players would not be their best in that situation
        c. new year, new coach, new tough guys… better energy

        The proof is in the pudding but I think we’ll see a decent player who sometimes is frustrating but some games is great.

        ————————————-
        Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

      • habsfan0 says:

        I’m afraid the Markov of old will be replaced by an old Markov.

    • Bill J says:

      1- below average for now. I don’t believe Bergevin is done.
      2- agree, I actually believe Therrien can turn Bourque around. Bergevin also knows Bourque from Chicago.
      3- I think saying no more Gomez ever again, is a bit optimistic. I give him 5 games TOPS. Wether we are speaking of training camp or regular season, hat remains to be seen.
      4- Frankie is American, so the local boy (Darche) was let go. To answer your question, Frankie is a great influence on the youth. And a true warrior.
      5a- very
      5b- extremely
      5c- not very
      5d & e- no question about it.


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    • JUST ME says:

      1- I think it is a decent d-squad but their fate lies in the offense`s lack of production.Pressure was put on the D to protect the few leads we could have.

      2-1 agree . With Bourque,Gionta,Gomez,Markov scoring more goals it should be a totally different picture. 25 for Bourque may be a tad optimistic though…

      3- Gomez will have a chance with the Habs but not sure how long his leash will be.

      4- the D needed more Bouillon than the offense needed Darche. Love them both though…

      5-I am a fan and think all of them will have a carreer in MTL Can`t wait to see Galchenuyk. What if we had a real star player can you imagine ? Don`t know if it would not be a good thing for Leblanc to go back to Hamilton to build his scoring confidence.

    • toinz says:

      1) I’d say our D is average with these 6.

      2) It’s fair to expect 20-25 considering he had 18 in a horrendous year last year.

      3) If he fits under the cap and is one of the 13 best players (edit: forwards) on the roster when camp is over, he will likely be on the team.

      4) Deserving based on team need? Bouillon.

      5) All 5. Leblanc will never be top 6 but can be a 3rd liner.

      Note on Galchenyuk. He will be one of the players strongly competing for the LW position in the top 6 that Bergevin says is open. In the past few years, it is not uncommon to see players picked that early jump into the NHL. Methinks he might get the 9 game tryout…

    • Habilis says:

      1. Hard to answer till Markov and Emelin play a few games. They are the question marks imo. Markov for his effectiveness and Emelin for his progresion. If all is well, I think this is a top 15 D corps. Maybe even top 10 if someone like Diaz can have a breakout season.
      2. Agree
      3. I really hope that you’re not being too optimistic. If he starts the year with the big club I may thow up in my mouth a little.
      4. I don’t think one is more deserving than the other. Both give their all every shift, can’t ask for more than that. For the money, I like the Bouillon signing.
      5. b,e – Very confident
      d – Confident
      a,c – Not sold yet

    • stevieray says:

      it’s about time Dog !!
      1- above average puck movin’..but lacking ability to clear the crease and protect Price
      2- I think he’ll be Ok …20 goals at least
      3- they’ll give him ..ANOTHER…chance
      4- no contest..the Bouillion Train
      5- very !!

      • Ian Cobb says:

        Hey Steve, you got to get to the Summit this year Bud.
        Its the only way you are ever going to finish that beer that you have had in your hands for a very long time.!!!!!

        • stevieray says:

          Hard times in the Maritimes this year my friend …but it’s on my bucket list ! ..gonna have to nurse that beer for another year ..but keep at me !!!

  47. Habilis says:

    All this trade talk got me thinking… Why aren’t Anaheim and Columbus talking to each other? Maybe they are and it’s just not public yet but to me it seems like they could probably work something out.

    Then again I’ve read that Howson’s asking price is through the roof so he’d probably want Ryan plus a prospect and a pick. Plus he turned down the entire NYI draft so he could get Murray. Overvalue players much?

  48. Bill J says:

    OK, I don’t mean to scare anyone here. In fact I want you guys to give me reasons I’m wrong. I’m scared!!!

    So first of all, Gally will not be wearing 27. It was a random jersey number given at the development camp. He’s quite likely to wear 94 in the pros.

    Now the reason for my fear, we had a 27 not too long ago. Wanted to retire a Hab. Recently expressed interest in returning to the NHL.

    Please tell me AK27 is not coming back!


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    #OperationSubbanDeflatedSalaryExpectations

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  49. ed lopaz says:

    for Chris (and others) on Bobby Ryan,

    why would the Ducks trade Bobby Ryan?

    because they have many. many holes in their lineup, and Ryan gives them a chance to close a few of those holes at once.

    because Ryan is unhappy in Anaheim, has come out publicly stating so.

    because the free agent list of excellent forwards is so thin that several teams have come up empty, therefore, it stands to reason that Anaheim can drive the price much higher for Ryan then they previously thought possible

    to me, these are 3 very good and very plausible reasons why (excellent source Bob Mckenzie) Ryan could be traded.

    you conclude that short of offering Subban we might as well forget it??

    why?

    did pittsburgh get skinner in the staal deal?

    no.

    they got 3 players instead and plugged several holes in their lineup at once.

    and of course there are many, many other examples of excellent young players being traded 1 for 3 instead of 1 for 1 stud for stud.

    will we get Ryan?

    very unlikely.

    But I think there’s enough talk out there to conclude that for the right price Ryan is available.

    • HFX-HabFan says:

      While I agree with most of what you said, two of the three pieces that Pittsburgh got back for Staal won’t likely be playing with the Penguins this upcoming season. Sutter is essentially replacing Staal, the other two are nice additions to an already-deep pool of D prospects. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Penguins snag Ryan because they have so many D prospects to offer.

      • ed lopaz says:

        not every “piece” has to be ready the season immediately following the trade, right?

        some trades are done with a view to the medium or longer term.

        I should have been more clear, you’re right.

        “plugging holes” could also mean medium and longer term holes.

      • toinz says:

        Ed, Staal had one year left and would be a lost asset at years end.

        Ryan has 3 years left.

        The Pens still got a 8th overall and a legitimate 3rd line center. A coup for Ray Shero considering the circumstances.

    • Phil C says:

      When Kyle Wellwood is the best UFA centre remaining and 37-year-old Saku Koivu is your current option as a number two centre, I find it very plausible that the Ducks have an interest in Plekanec, especially since they have improved their defense through free agency.

      • LA Loyalist says:

        They just gave Koivu a $500,000 raise. They love him here and he is on a string with Selanne when they are out there. I see them quite often.

        That said, he will need to be replaced, but that would be someone younger and cheaper than Pleks to replace Saku.

        NOTE TO MOLE PERSON FROM PREVIOUS THREAD:
        My Bad, Mole person. I didn’t mean Pleks was soft and overpaid at all, I meant our team in general last year. Pleks is one of the few guys I’d keep unless the deal is over the moon. My point was Ducks don’t need him because they have Saku, and we don’t have the depth to trade with Ducks without giving up kids.

      • ont fan says:

        Ryan will probably end up in Detroit.

  50. JUST ME says:

    Of all the players that were called back from Hamilton last year, and god knows there were plenty, St- Denis is the one who made the best impression.

    Maybe because as a d-man we notice more his game and maybe also we were in deep s***…with Markov gone and all but still.

    All the other ones the Blunden,Palushaj,Engqvist,Nash and other are all forgettable players . I may be unfair cause we did need them with the injury situation in MTL but still they did not make the difference . At least i would expect one of them to shine but i did not see any real long term project in them. St- Denis is the only one that i found usefull and reliable.

    That brings me to say that i see a total different picture with the kids in the minors. Galchenyuk,Gallagher,Tinordi and quite a few others look very promissing. But to go from junior to Ahl, from Ahl to Nhl is two steps. Let`s not rush them and make the same mistakes all over again.

    • HabFab says:

      Nash was out all of last year with an injury in training camp and follow up surgery. Otherwise you probably would have never seen StDenis.

    • ed lopaz says:

      I think brendan nash is much better then St denis, and much more likely to help the habs going forward – if he stays healthy

      nash had shoulder surgery last september however and missed the entire season.

      nash is also a bigger body at 6’3 and 215 lbs.

      • PeterStone says:

        i saw Nash play a few pre-ssn games a couple of years back, and frankly, i was impressed. No panic at all in his game, very simple, but was really effective. Of course, it was the pre-season, so, who knows.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      My thought is we start with a clean sheet of paper with respect to the Hamilton guys. Martin had no touch with the young ones, so let’s see what Therrien can put together (and I’m no one who wanted Therrien, I wanted Carbo and Big Bird).

      That said, and many of you have posted it, let’s not rush anyone. Let them learn their trade and if we have to go another year or two with inexpensive journeymen in a few spots, incest la vie.

      I wouldn’t complain about another decent draft pick if it helps us build an elite, solid team with depth here and in Ham town.

  51. PeterStone says:

    I am not sure why MA Gragnani wasnt tendered an offer from VAN .. i understand he had some tough times, but, 600K$ for a 6’2″ 25 yr old DMan seems like its worth the risk. Oh, franco from Montreal.

    I am going to guess, if they wanted to, the Habs could probably trade Kaberle now … maybe even to Detroit, who could use a Dman or 2.

  52. mksness says:

    If you send gomez to the minors woul you look at targeting other players via trade to replace the salary? part two is what prospects are you willing to part with to get that potential player.

    If this is team is going the way or rebuilding with youth are you okay with being 7M under the cap but with gomez in the minors.

    • Bill J says:

      Next Year’s UFA class looks to cost more then what’s left over right now.

      Unless its a trade, I don’t see the Gomez cap space used for anyone else.


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  53. HardHabits says:

    The sad thing is in the list of St. Denis, Diaz, Weber, and Kaberle, the best of the lot is Kaberle. Habs have a lot of depth when it comes to 6th or 7th defence men. Just like they are really deep with career AHLers.

    • mksness says:

      i thought weber was a 4th line forward :-p

      • Bill J says:

        Speaking of thoughts, I thought Carboneau and Martin didn’t coach the Habs anymore.


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        Tweet it, talk about it. Let’s get rid of Gomez and sign Subban for cheap!
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  54. Ian Cobb says:

    Hope there is enough money left for PK, Eller and Dias!! There might not be now.!!

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    • Bill J says:

      Hahahaha, funny Ian.

      You are joking right ?


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  55. Ian Cobb says:

    The cupboard is nearly empty!

  56. frankcasting says:

    Good signing; I think we learned last year, can’t have too many NHL-ish D’s ready in the wings – See Kabarle, T. (ugh).

    Loving the Habs since 1965

  57. 24more says:

    Here’s another hint that Campoli won’t be coming back: the Canadiens’ press release about the numbers that the new players will wear also said that Rene Bourque will be swapping number 27 for number 17 (Campoli’s number).

  58. kempie says:

    I just read that Borque is switching his jersey number from 27 to 17. I hope he called BGL to make sure he was okay with that.

  59. HFX-HabFan says:

    Prust to wear 8
    Armstrong to wear 20
    Bouillon to wear 55 (dangit, another number that makes us look like a football team)

    • krob1000 says:

      ? hard not to look like a football team when the hockey numbers are all retired…there are 16 numbers retired in total….numbers left under jersey no 20 are 6,8, 11,13,14,15,17….football it is!

      • HFX-HabFan says:

        25, 27, 28, 34, 36, 37 etc all available

        • krob1000 says:

          most of those could easily be said to be goalie numbers… Galchenyuk appears to have 27 marked as his future number.

          • Bill J says:

            The prospects camp numbers were random, he’s more likely to keep using 94 his birth year.


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            #OperationSubbanDeflatedSalaryExpectations

            Tweet it, talk about it. Let’s get rid of Gomez and sign Subban for cheap!
            Go Habs Go!

          • HFX-HabFan says:

            Goalie numbers tend to be 1, 30, 31, 35…the occasional 29, 40, 41, and a few other random ones…interestingly, very rarely do you see a goalie with a jersey in the 30s that’s an even number (aside from 30 itself)…random observation from over the years

    • HFX-HabFan says:

      Bourque also switching from 27 to 17 (explains why Galchenyuk wore 27 at dev camp)

      • HabFab says:

        Read an interview with Gally after the camp and it sounded like the trainer gave it to him but he will probably ask for 94 come training camp.

      • savethepuck says:

        Campoli won’t be needing #17 this year

        “They don’t hang Conference Championship Banners from the rafters here”
        Carey Price

      • Sean Bonjovi says:

        Sidney Crosby Wore the #9 at at least one junior tournament and at one point said that #9 would be his “international number” not his usual #87. Then his handlers pointed out that it was to his financial benefit to build the #87 brand by wearing #87 for Canada, so that’s what he does.
        For young hot-prospects like Galchenyuk, no matter how hard-working/ team-first/ good-guy he is, it would be stupid for him to choose a “hockey-number” over a unique number his people can build into a brand.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Notable Number 8′s

      Ralph Backstrom
      Dick Duff
      Mike Komisarek
      Sylvio Mantha
      Mark Recchi
      Doug Risebrough
      Mathieu Schneider

      and … (bet you didn’t know this ) …

      Jean Beliveau.


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

    • HabFanSince72 says:

      Notable Number 20s

      Ralph Backstrom (again?)
      Jean Beliveau (OK this is ridiculous)
      Guy Carbonneau (WTF???)
      Kjell Dahlin
      Phil Goyette
      Bronco Horvath
      Robert Lang
      Peter Mahovlich
      P.J. Stock
      Richard Zednik


      Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.

  60. HabFab says:

    The pessimists are now up to 24%. At this rate, we will not be making the play-offs by months end

    • Bill J says:

      lol!

      Damned advanced stats, go f-yerself Mr. Corsi!


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    • HardHabits says:

      It’s because every time I get booted I vote “No” before logging back in.

  61. krob1000 says:

    Anyone see much of JIm Vandermeer last season? of all the UFA dmen he jumps out to me as one of the toughest and most serviceable that would be affordable. I know he has a history fo injuries but he is tough as nails and was always supposed to come around but never seemed to catch a break….

  62. Ali says:

    I hope the Habs take some steps to protect Markov a bit this year, perhaps they should do what the Wings used to do with Lidstrom?

    Whoever his partner was (usually Stuart) was the one who went into the corner to retrieve the puck, no matter what side of the ice it was on. That shielded Lidstrom from the wear and tear of being pounded by opposing forecheckers. Just a thought…

  63. krob1000 says:

    CraigJButton: Per @NHLAdamK it must be nice for Dallas Stars to hear Jagr say, “Montreal was my 1st choice but they weren’t interested.”

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      It’s actually nice to see Montreal say no to a stupid idea and not be on the receiving end of a sucker deal for once.

    • Bill J says:

      Isn’t that what Kovalev said only 2-3 days after signing with Ottawa ?


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      • HabFab says:

        The old farts just wanted to be around the young hotties in Montreal…

        • Bill J says:

          The hotties in Dallas must be epic!


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          • HabFab says:

            Silicone melts at 105 F :)

          • Bill J says:

            Explains their (hotties) attraction to NHL rinks, ;).


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          • Un Canadien errant says:

            They’re NFL and NBA hotties.

    • habstrinifan says:

      I agree. Seems like he tried to make habs mngmnt look clueless… then on the other hand maybe just an innocent remark siad at the wrong time.

  64. Ali says:

    The epitome of why I hope to God we get rid of Kaberle is an enduring image I have of him from last year. Last minute or so of a game, we’ve pulled the goalie for an extra attacker, he has the puck in our own zone, and knows he is about to get hit by the forechecking forward. What does he do? Tries to shoot from his own zone by the faceoff circle and ices it.

    Bring him back? No thank you. I hope one of the gazillion people Bergevin has hired watched that too, and dumps him in the minors. He has his uses as a PP specialist, but he has no willingness to get dirty. Markov will (and has) taken hits to make plays. Gorges, Subban, Emelin all do it too. nothing to do with being a Euro, but has more to do with having no desire.

  65. Hobie Hansen says:

    I’m wondering if Bergevin is even going to sign Diaz…small defenseman with a tad of offensive upside? I doubt he’s in a rush.

    • shiram says:

      I think it would be unwise to just let him slide, he is still a RFA afterall, at worst try to flip his rights for a pick

      • Ali says:

        just letting him go for nothing is a Gauthier/Gainey move.

        • HardHabits says:

          He’d have to be an UFA to be let go for nothing.

          As a RFA Gauthier/Gainey would trade him for an AHL journeyman, after which he’d become an NHL regular on the team traded to.

      • chemic says:

        he will sign with the habs or get back to switzerland to his old club. he will not sign a two way contract with the habs or anywhere else.
        there is still an agreement with his old club.

    • HabFab says:

      Suspect PK gets signed before Diaz and Eller.

      • Bill J says:

        What gives you that impression ? St Denis was signed before Soobey-Doo.


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        • HabFab says:

          Listen here bub! Did I give you a hard time when I used to take the winter off and come back in the late spring? Huh? And who gave you the idea of taking sabbaticals in the first place?Huh?

          And in case you were serious, disregard above. St Denis is a depth AHL player…sorry.

    • chelseafan says:

      2 way contract- maybe…

  66. mrhabby says:

    A good player for Hamilton to keep and never make his way to the show.

  67. jols101 says:

    Thank God the Habs signed him. Not because I love him as a Dman or think he addresses what the Habs really need on D, which is size and toughness, but Thank God just so we do not have to look at the picture of the Cretin that is Therrien…

  68. The Jackal says:

    Saint Denis is a decent D, a good depth guy who can make the 3rd pairing. I would take him over Kaberle, but it does not look like we are gonna get rid of him any time soon.

    • TorontoHabsFan says:

      Kaberle had 22 pts in 43 games with Montreal (43 pts over 82 games).
      St Denis had 3 in 17 (14 over 82 games).

      • Ali says:

        MA Bergeron had 34 pts in 60 games two years ago with the Habs. Should we have kept him?

        • TorontoHabsFan says:

          According to MANY here, his success in TB last year was further proof that Montreal’s management was/is inept.

          • Ali says:

            Offense isn’t everything. On a team that was so thin defensively like Tampa, but employs the 1-3-1 the gaps in his defensive game aren’t as obvious, but we saw what they were here. It’s no coincidence that our comeback against Washington during the last playoff run started with the fact that Muller convinced JM to stop playing MAB on a regular shift and stick to him only on the PP (His ice time plummeted from over 20 mins a game to around 10 i believe).

          • TorontoHabsFan says:

            Be that as it may, I remember reading screed after screed about how MAB was finally living up to his potential under a “real” coach. Is he useless or amazing? Or is he only useless when he’s a Hab but amazing when he’s a former Hab?

            Back to Kaberle, the Habs finished 20th in the league in goals last year. Like it or not, Montreal is in desperate need of Kaberle’s offense. You may not like the way he plays defence, but his offensive contributions are crucial to Montreal’s success this year….unless you think that Emelin, Gorges, Boullion, or Weber are about to start scoring 40 pts a year.

          • shiram says:

            The four of them combined will. :p

        • Ali says:

          I think a healthy Markov will more than make up for Kaberle, and I would rather give the ice time to Weber instead Kaberle. At least Weber will shoot once in a while.

  69. commandant says:

    I liked the way St. Denis played for us.

    I think he’ll clear waivers and be a nice leader for the young kids in Hamilton, and could be called up to play spot duty if a lot of injuries hit.

    Steady Freddy is a solid AHL player.

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  70. Bill J says:

    Given the choice between Kostitsyn and Kovalev.

    I’d take Kostitsyn!


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  71. HabFab says:

    Looking at this roster,I think we are going to miss AK46 this winter.

  72. Bripro says:

    THANK YOU!!!

  73. ZepFan2 says:

    Heavy duty wacky-tabbacky.

    I think Heisenberg has been spreading his blue cheer around this place a little too much. :smile:

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    Hot fun in the Summertime

  74. Bill J says:

    Him & “The Dude”


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  75. ZepFan2 says:

    The Dude or the Dud as I like to call him is most likely puffing on B.C. bud. Kills the brain cells faster. :wink:

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  76. Rozz says:

    Hey it’s been proven that Marry Jane does not kill brain cells and in fact is the only thing that has shown any signs of promoting new brain cell growth..

    Don’t blame an innocent plant for peoples obvious mental deficiencies.. Blame whatever they are lacing it with!

    .. Or their parents genes lol

    “When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.”

    Mark Twain.

  77. habaholic68NJ says:

    Cannabinoids bind reversibly and stereo-selectively to the cannabinoid receptors in the brain. Hence no brain damage.

    *Listen to my instrumental tribute entitled “Habs at War” at http://petertoliasmusic.site11.com/Music_Site/OtherOriginalMusic.html

  78. steve17 says:

    I liked Diaz considering he was new and he came in when Gauthier lost his marbles. I like him better than Weber! he had to get used to the smaller rink, a new team, a new culture and a dysfunctional team!

    Habfan17

  79. HabFab says:

    Don’t tell Matt Carle that!

  80. Mr. Biter says:

    Diaz over Weber any day. AP should also be long gone by now. Had so many chances with the Habs and never clicked with any line. I wonder what $$$$$’s PK wants.

    Mr. Biter
    No Guts No Glory

  81. habstrinifan says:

    Took me a while to figure out AP.

  82. habstrinifan says:

    My bad I thought I saw AK’s name as having filed for salary arbitration with Nashville. Read newer posts and it was clarified that it was SK who did, which makes sense.

  83. habsavvy says:

    looks like SJ are the front runners for Nash.
    wish habs could land a top 6 scorer.
    what a boring team, all 4th liners.

  84. Clay says:

    http://instantrimshot.com/

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  85. Rozz says:

    LMFAO

    “When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.”

    Mark Twain.

  86. neutral says:

    They meant 2035

  87. boing007 says:

    And ticket prices already went up another 2.5%. One goalscorer. Please!

    Richard R
    Price is an oyster. Unfortunately not all oysters produce pearls.

  88. Ian Cobb says:

    Not so my friend in the Ukraine. A friend of my is a grain farmer there, and a huge Hab Fan.

  89. Cal says:

    Yup, Cole and Pac and DD are all 4th liners all right. Why do I even bother, notsohabsavvy?


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