Canadiens practice in Florida

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The sun rose in Sunrise on your last-place Montreal Canadiens.
Tomas Plekanec opened his heart to Jean-François Chaumont of the Journal de Montréal.
And our friends at TSN 990 were kind enough to pass along some audio.
Same lines at practice as played in Washington.
Mathieu Darche wasn’t skating but Andrei Markov was, in a no-contact jersey.
Injured captain Brian Gionta says “it’s nice to be around the guys and kind of going through what they’re going through”.

But would he and Markov be joining their teammates if the Canadiens were in Winnipeg?

Brian Gionta | Randy Cunneyworth | Peter Budaj

406 Comments

  1. Mavid says:

    For those of you who think Neil is what we need you better watch more sens games he is a weasel nothing more, he and calkner were running around all night yapping, hacking and yet when challanged they skated away Neil did not take on Chara he had no choice it was time to pay up, I hate the Bruins and Chara as much as anyone but this guy is a turd and an embarrassment.

  2. The Jackal says:

    2 solid parts of the team – not part of the problem – for an overpaid winger and a dman, so a contract as bad as Gomez, plus a huge void in goaltending. No thanks sir.

  3. chilli says:

    The only thing we can look forward to is keeping the Leafs out of the playoffs. Those last Leaf games are the 2012 playoffs for the Habs.

    Tre

  4. The Jackal says:

    Right HH, they say the additive will ensure people come back to the bell even if its just for the beer, that allows goat to stay employed and continue his experiments. On the bright side if teaches other NHL teams what not to do.

  5. The Jackal says:

    Vanejorg is posting shortly after a week long binge of substance abuse, so excuse his delirium, its only natural.

  6. JayK-47 says:

    vainborg, Are you CRAZY???

    You use a d-man to get a forward, THEN a goalie to get a d-man.

    [smh]

  7. Kimberly2u says:

    Im not even watching the game…same old thing..skating around and no one scoring

  8. vanejorg says:

    Les Canadiens are still in the playoff race. So everybody just shut up, and let them play. Acquire Rick Nash and Steve Mason, using Carey Price as bait. Then acquire Shea Weber, using P.K. Subban as bait. Make it to the playoffs this year and give it a good run….see what can be done to upset a few teams. If they can’t do it this year, then win the Stanley Cup next year. That’s it. To help this process along Molson should:

    1. Fire himself as president, and hire Ken Dryden
    2. Fire everybody in management, and coaching
    3. Hire one of Pierre McGuire, or Vincent Damphousse, or other
    suitable candidate, as GM
    4. Hire Patrick Roy as coach.

    The key is that everybody, including several players, should be gone, with the exception of possibly the head scout. No situation can be worse that what they are in now. So for those that disagree with the candidates above…suck it! Remember if this experiment fails,(and I can’t possibly see how these candidates will be any worse than the ones they have now) they can always fire them too.

    • gordon bombay says:

      I think Psychic Nickie would be willing to go out on a limb and say she would eat her muff if all this came true. This is absolutely insane! Montreal would not be a better team because of these trades – Carey Price is the only reason we aren’t mathematically out of the playoffs already. MMW – Price will be the starting goalie for team Canada at the next Olympics and PK Subban will also be on the Olympic team. Last time I checked, they don’t put AHLers on Team Canada.

      • JimBob says:

        I really doubt he’s serious with those ideas, and he’s gotta be trolling.

        No one’s brain could be that damaged from drug abuse that they think any of that is possible, or even desirable.

        • vanejorg says:

          You have to stop thinking that Price and Subban are the second coming of Dryden, and Robinson. It’s just NOT so. By age 25 Dryden had already won the Stanley Cup three times(he also won the same year he was called up). Larry Robinson had also won the Stanley Cup by Subban’s age. Price, and Subban would be playing in the minors if this was 1972. That is why they should be shipped off to Columbus, and Nashville respectively, since they are a lot like minor league teams. GM’s still believe the nonsense that these two are greater than they actually are. Therefore, use them to acquire players that are actual proven, NHL players. It’s not rocket science kids. It’s time to channel a little bit of that Sam Pollock philosophy. Who can forget when he gave away nothing, and was able to acquire Guy Lafleur, when he had no business picking that high in the draft. That’s what we need now. Proactive thinking!….or proactive fleecing if you will!

      • tophab says:

        price is part of the reason we are not in a playoff spot .too many weak goals. first shot of game is most of the time a goal and when we are leading he can’t stop a beach ball.he cracks under presure.
        we should trade him and ak and a couple of other guys we don’t need for nash and mason.

    • alwayssunny says:

      I think these are all sensible, carefully thought out propositions.

      • vanejorg says:

        Now here is a person with some sense. There appears to be at least a few people who understand that Nash, Weber, and Mason,(and a whole new management team)make this team a whole lot better….and in a hurry too, than with Price, and Subban in the line up. I’m not saying trade Price, and Subban for slouches…..but Weber, and Nash, and Mason……get that done! Some have said that Montreal is NOT on Nash’s list. Let’s do an experiment then.
        Call the Columbus GM, and tell him Price, and others are available in exchange for Nash, and Mason(because we need a goaltender back obviously). He’ll probably leave a trail of fire(as the road runner used to do to the coyote) in his haste to get to Nash’s agent, to get him to get Montreal on the list.

  9. gp52 says:

    I would limit all players salaries to 2 million. The money they are throwing at these guys for showing a little bit of good performance is ridiculous. Five to 10 year deals at 5 tp 10 mill per year depending on the player. Then after they sign the performance trails off. How stupid are these GM’s anyways.

  10. alwayssunny says:

    I don’t know about you guys but I feel like a kid on Christmas Eve. What are you going to bring us Mr. Gauthier? Not to mention a Sunday afternoon game Habs vs. Panthers. Does it get more exciting than this? Crunchtime baby, time for a big crunch.

  11. sreuel says:

    Check out TSN blog Molson says PG is still in charge of any deal that maybe made on Monday if any.

    • alwayssunny says:

      He is our General Manager, why wouldn’t he be? He has been given the green light by Geoff Molson and no less of of a hockey mind than Bob Gainey so I say go crazy Pierre.

    • shootdapuck says:

      Sure and his spending limit without Molson’s personal approval is $1.00. US

      There’s lots of ways to handcuff an incompetent manager if you don’t want to come out and say that he’s fired as of COB!
      =================================================
      The cerebral insight of PJ Stock:

      “Le problem est Markov n’a pas jouer un seul game cette annee”
      “Louis Leblanc est un kid locale”

  12. DorvalTony says:

    Halak first star, stopped 39/41 shots and won in the shootout for the second time this week. http://www.nhl.com/ice/boxscore.htm?id=2011020915

    “Okay everybody take a Valium.” – Rene Levesque

  13. Toe Blake says:

    What a joy. The Habs in FLA at 5:00pm. Let’s all take a walk on the wild side!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEULfRigR3g

  14. AH says:

    Just watched highlights on the Score…Chris Neil..wow…hammers Boychuk with a crushing hit, and then takes on ape Chara for the garbage retribution fight, and handles himself more than well and could have hammered Chara after he had him down, but didn’t!

    Boy, could we use him on this fricking bunch of softies we have.

  15. Bill says:

    Amazing how ineffective both Cammalleri and Bourque have been.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • DorvalTony says:

      Bourque was best CH with the DD line against Dallas and even better the next night against Caps, even Boone said so. Or was it Hickey? I smell a whipping boy. Aim for Gandhi Goatier will ya?

      “Okay everybody take a Valium.” – Rene Levesque

  16. HardHabits says:

    It is rumored that Sony Pictures is working on a new horror/fantasy film entitled The Montreal Canadiens.

    It’s about a mad scientist, Dr. Frangainsteiney, and his assistant “the Ghost” who team up with a vampire know as “the Count” and his assistant “the Cunneywolf”. It is a tale of four monsters run amok in an ancient kingdom that is but a remnant of its former self. They wreak havoc on the population of the mystical kingdom called Habland by devouring the most talented young children and forcing parents to send them away to other lands with little in return.

    It’s a dark tale where a once proud kingdom has had its newly crowned boy-king unable to save his citizens from the misfortunes and destitution caused by the ravages and the haunting of these 4 evil antagonists.

    The dark story takes a turn for the better though. The boy king gets a help from magical forces. A chosen one that will save the Kingdom is foretold by the high priestess of the Holy Temple of the Entry Draft. The boy king breaks the spell from the poison nectar that has been fed to him by the priests of the Molsonic Court of the Dark Light.

    Free from the spell, the Chosen one lifts the Holy Chalice as foretold by the prophets and the boy-king finds the magical pot of gold in the hidden vault located beneath the secret room in the Bell Tower Castle.

    The story ends with a big parade and celebration.

  17. Timo says:

    Scott Hartnel just scored his 30th.

    Scott Gomez… not so much.

    • Toe Blake says:

      Hey, Gomez considered scoring thirty goals this year. However, realizing he would be paid whether he scored or not, he passed!

      • HardHabits says:

        Gomez, being the generous player that he is not only passed, but he passed to no-one, thus coughing up and ensuring prophet for the opposition. He spreads the wealth around. If you count all the goals scored against from errant passes you’d see that Gomez is actually scoring at a 20 point pace ahead of what his actual statistics speak.

        Not only that but Gomez has created a new statistic called the Pirouette, It’s kind of like a hit but without the physical contact. When an opposing player goes for the puck Gomez fakes a hit and then instead spins like a top thus disorienting his adversary even more than if he bounced off of him.

  18. alfieturcotte says:

    FIRE GAUTHIER, FIRE GAUTHIER, FIRE GAUTHIER

    Panthers picked up low cost potential high reward player in Wolski; paid very little in return — 3rd rounder. Tallon is a real GM, unlike our Mickey Mouse of a GM.

    Meanwhile our GM picks up liabilities like Kaberle, Campoli, Markov salary, and gives up quality assets like Moore, SK74, O’Byrne.

    Time to redo the team, fire GM and Coach. How sad to end the season with no playoffs to look forward to. How far our might franchise has fallen…..

  19. chilli says:

    As much as I dislike many of the current realities of our Habs, there are other insanely stupid contracts out there. The mega longs never work out. Why do GM’s and owners agree to them?

    LaCave, 8 more years at 8 per? NY still paying the long term they gave Redden. He’s playing in the minors at 6.5 mil per for 3 more years. Brian Campbell, 5 more years at 7 mil per. The Devils owe Ilya $100 mil from now until 2025. Briere, 4 more years at $6.5 per. Pronger, 6 more years at $5 mil per. Hossa, 10 more years at $5.3 per.

    And the real killers: Bryzgalov, who is terrible, 9 more years, $51 mil. Dipietro, 15 more years at $4.5, Ovie and his -9, 43 points $9.54 cap hit and locked-up until 2021. Oh and 4 more years of Islanders paying Yashin.

    And anyone still wondering why Jagr chose Philly instead of us?

  20. songles says:

    I really hope the Habs get one of the top two picks. A big Malkin-esque centre like Grigorenko is exactly what the Habs need. Get a guy like that and suddenly the team is back in playoff contention.

    • nickster13 says:

      Id rather get Forsberg, those swedes always play a smart, smart game, and Forsberg has size and talent to boot.

      Also, to be honest, i dont trust the “Q” right now, id much rather pick an OHL guy or a guy playing in the Swedish Elite league than the Q. Much safer bets.

    • chilli says:

      I want a top 3 pick but it won’t change much for the next few years. Columbus had 2 world class players and dead last. Edmonton has had the best picks of the last 3 years and still no playoffs. Islanders got Tavares and still not even close. Tampa has 3 world class players – Stamkos is leading the lead in scoring (was before tonight). Anaheim has 3 world class players, including last years MVP. Nail and Grigor have been compared to superstar Ovechkin…well, Washington has the real Oveckin (and a few other stars) and won’t make the playoffs.

      Our team needs NHL ready D.

      Tre

    • third generation haber says:

      We’re most likely to finish 3rd from the bottom, so winning the lottery is the only way we can get Grigorenko, he’ll go 2nd overall. Habs will draft Forsberg with the number 3 pick.

      If we finish with the 4th pick, we will have a dilemma, picks 4 and 5 are D-men before we get to Galchenyuk, the Amercian center who hasn’t played all year due to a torn ACL.

      After that it’s 2 more D-men!
      This was not the most opportune time to tank.

      *On a brighter note we also have 2 2nd rounders, and a third round pick this year.

      j.p. murray

  21. Rainrocket16 says:

    Sorry, I do not speak French too well or read it. Can anyone tell me what Pleks opened up about? Thanks! I saw Pleks’ face after Kaberle didn’t play the man on the first Goal of the Caps game, man, he did not look happy with Kaberle. I mean who can be happy with Kaberle, I think this guy should go soon! I am sure Gomez isn’t going anywhere and I am fine with that, he really is a wonderful skater, if only that could get us points. But Kaberle is looking like a complete jackass with the Habs!

    • alfieturcotte says:

      Pleks should look closely at his own stats. His bad season is one of the reasons for our failure this year.

      Trade Pleks, AK46, Moen, Kaberle, Bourque, and FIRE GAUTHIER….

  22. SmartDog says:

    I agree with those who say Molson’s not going to tell the media (and other GM’s) “yes, Gauthier is a lame duck – don’t deal with him, just call me”. That’s not what you do. And the Goat may be dumb enough to hang his coach out to try but that takes a special kind of insensitivity/stupidity. Molson has to say exactly what he said, regardless of the truth. It means exactly nothing.

    I don’t agree with those who say we need a ‘complete rebuild’, as if we’re starting from scratch. In fact a complete rebuild would be a huge mistake. We have a lot of strong D in the pipeline. In 2-3 years we’re gonna have our pick and have good spare parts to trade. What we need – is a big scoring center and better bottom six. With some good youngsters, and draft picks we should be able to get that big center somehow (finally) over the next 2 years (or draft him this year if we have a really high pick which we may). But the base is good and the pipeline is rich. We don’t need a complete rebuild, we need to fortify our veterans and goal-scorers. And we need a really, a REALLY good coaching staff and GM.

    ————————————-
    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • christophor says:

      Molson could’ve said nothing. He didn’t need to entertain Bobby Mac or the Twitterverse to clarify (falsely).

      I expect he’s telling the truth, or something near it, since otherwise I would have just expected nothing as usual. And that ‘as usual’ bit speaks to Molson going out of his way on Pierre’s behalf.

    • TorontoHabsFan says:

      It was Molson, not Gauthier, who released a statement stating that “it is obvious that the ability for the head coach to express himself in both French and English will be a very important factor in the selection of the permanent head coach”

      Gauthier apologized if anybody was offended by the hiring of Cunneyworth.

      If anybody threw Cunneyworth under the metaphorical bus it was Molson, not Gauthier.

    • nickster13 says:

      Amen. Lets draft Forsberg and then hire Carlyle as head coach, and hire the best man for GM job. Also, in free agency, acquire a couple defensemen and a 3rd line center and we are set for next season.

  23. shootdapuck says:

    Anyone who remotely believes that Geoff Molson would air executive level dirty laundry on facebook no less should also be waiting for Nash to arrive at the Bell Centre for the next 7 years.

    Impossible!

    =================================================
    The cerebral insight of PJ Stock:

    “Le problem est Markov n’a pas jouer un seul game cette annee”
    “Louis Leblanc est un kid locale”

    • SmartDog says:

      Mais oui!

      ————————————-
      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • TorontoHabsFan says:

      Not sure how responding to questions from a respected hockey journalist (Bob McKenzie) can be equated with “airing executive level dirty laundry on facebook”.

      • shootdapuck says:

        Is facebook the forum to air executive strategy and personnel moves?

        Especially an organization that moves in secrecy rivaling the CIA!

        Come on!

        =================================================
        The cerebral insight of PJ Stock:

        “Le problem est Markov n’a pas jouer un seul game cette annee”
        “Louis Leblanc est un kid locale”

  24. Mavid says:

    just came back from the Bruins/Sens game..Chris Neil is an A hole and i hope and pray that he never, ever blemishes the CH..he did not take down Lurch..not even close..Lurch lost his footing and fell..they showed it it slow mo after..Neil never even came close to touching Lurch..but he came close to knocking out a couple more of those teeth of his out..and then he has the nerve to skate around flayling his hands in the air as if he actually did anything..what a complete goof…he also layed out a nice hard hit on Boychuck..except that he hurt himself more..and stayed on the bench for a long time after in considerable pain…it was 4-1 with 7 minutes left…and in typical sens fashion they bail…like rats abandoning a ship..only to have their stupid team almost tie it…there was alot of Boston fans at the bank tonight too…at times almost out cheering the Sens fans…I hate the Bruins no doubt but Sens fans are the absolute worse..bar none

    • ProHabs says:

      Chris Neil is exactly what this Habs team needs. He would be a welcomed addition to the CH. That is how 3 and 4 line players are supposed to play. NOt like the pussycats this management team has put together on the Habs.

    • Bill says:

      Neil nailed Boychuk and then answered the bell against Chara … I mean how many guys agree to fight Chara?? He scored the take-down no matter how you want to analyze the video, and let’s face it, when you fight Chara, not getting your face re-arranged is a victory. That guy is way tougher than I thought.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • SmartDog says:

      I agree. Neil is a nasty piece of work. As much as we need more toughness, I wouldn’t want him.

      ————————————-
      Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

    • habstrinifan says:

      You are wrong. If Habs had Chris Neil we would have been a much much better team. And Neil has faced Chara before and did take him down but showed lots of class by not hitting Chara while he was on his knees. Chara even gave Neil a pat for that at the time. I think it was on Chara’s return to Ottawa with the Bruins for the first time.

    • NCRhabsfan says:

      Mavid,

      I don’t know what you were watching, maybe you were the guy that got into a fight after the game and got tossed. Neil absolutely drilled Boychuck, who left the game and did not return, with a perfectly legal body check. Neil did return, even though he himself took a hell of a shot on that hit and could probably have justified watching the rest of the game, he still went out there to face the music from that complete goon Chara. Now in case you didn’t notice, Chara, unblemished from any hits, has about 6 inches and 60 pounds on Neil, started the fight, probably won it (no surprise, he only fights guys he can beat as he is a filthy coward) but still ended up getting tossed to the ice by Neil and had to rely on Neil being a better person that he (Chara) is not to punch his lights out while he was helpless on the ice. Neil didn’t hit him when he had the chance, because Neil is 500 times the man Chara will ever dream of being.

      If only the Habs could find a guy like Neil. We should be so lucky!

  25. slapshot777 says:

    Price is going nowhere, he will be signed long term and the new GM forward will want to lock up the key pieces of this team to build around.

    He doesn’t want to make the same mistakes as previous GMs.

    Price loves it in Montreal, right now it’s not good for anybody Price included, but once this team is winning there is no better place to play. You are considered gods when the team is winning the layers seem to grow a couple of inches and their confidence grows. The media treats everyone differently and you can go out in public and be warmly greeted and mobbed at times.

    Lose and your life in this city can be a miserable hell. This is why some players don’t like to come to Montreal, they can accept the good but can’t handle the bad.

  26. Toe Blake says:

    Watching the Flames/Flyers. You want to know where Price is headed to moment he can? He’s going to Philadelphia. No doubt about it.

  27. munch17 says:

    On oct 31 the Leafs were 5 points ahead of us in the standings.4 months later,as bad as we have been, and without Markov and our captain, they are 7 points ahead. Yet no-one talks about how bad THEY are!!

  28. Mattyleg says:

    Holy sweet Moses.
    “The Wrath of Grapes”??
    The Don Cherry Story II???

    This is truly the end of days…

    —Hope Springs Eternal—

  29. Toe Blake says:

    The fans won’t stand for a proper rebuilding? Please, put the damn bong back in the closet with yer tie-dyes. They pack the Bell and fork over money like sailors on leave to watch a last-place squad ply their trade. You could serve these people frozen crap on a stick and they will pony up to chew on it!

  30. Shane1313 says:

    Gill, even though he didn’t really fight came in to any scrum and you had to respect his size. I hope someone else will do that too.

  31. Toe Blake says:

    Even I would have found practicing at this point a waste of time. I would have just let the boys don their speedos (I tip my hat to Chris Nilan) break open the stoggies and get a head start on their tans. The one exception would be Gomez. I would have him stay in his room working on tax shelters.

  32. third generation haber says:

    My fellow Hab fans, please stop the insanity.

    We’ve tanked one season, after making the playoffs 4 straight years. I needn’t remind u that we were exciting in the past 2 playoff runs also.

    It’s not like we haven’t played a play-off game since the second round of 2004. It’s not like we haven’t got a single roster player on our current team from that last play-off game.

    It’s not like our ownership group is blocking the rest of the province from getting a franchise.

    It’s not like our GM has a monsterous ego and traded away our lottery pick for a one demensional guy who is unpopular with teammates.

    It’s not like our arena is filled with suits who can’t make it back from the martini bar at the start of each period.

    It’s not like we’re about to make it 8 straight years without a trip to the play-offs!

    It’s not like our fans think Darcy Tucker was an all-star.

    it’s not like we haven’t won a cup in close to 50 years!!!

    Judging by the posts and media these days, I’d think that most of us could not survive one day as a leaf fan. Man! they have some serious mental toughness!!!

    The glass is half-full!!!!

    j.p. murray

    • The Jackal says:

      He’s right – in other words, at least we’re not the Laffs!
      I agree, but this season has revealed some weaknesses that were glossed over by a strong PP. I hope we can strengthen the team over the summer and hopefully Markov can still be a good player for us – if this happens then we’ll be much better next season.

    • Shane1313 says:

      That’s all true!

    • RH says:

      ….AAAANNNDDDDD, my wife and I were at the Habs/Leaves game in January at the hanger,(free tickets don’t you know. Sometimes, working in construction actually pays). Leave fans are such a bore. If it weren’t for the Habs fans that made up half the freakin’ building, you woulda’ thought the house was empty. It cost me the same to park as it did to buy a bag of freakin’ popcorn damnit!

    • Le Jadester says:

      Nice post.

      Habs, OLE !

  33. Bill says:

    Leafs have lost 8 of last 9, yet only three points out of playoffs. Wow. The standings barely move somehow.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • The Jackal says:

      We had an opportunity to make a push for 8th when we won 4 straight, when we started to lose after that, so did the other teams and for a bit we were not so far behind… so we had a chance to win while the other teams lost but we could not pull it off.

  34. Timo says:

    Man, Jagr still looks good. Definitely better than anything we’ve got.

  35. Timo says:

    Watching Philly – Flames game. Man, Philly needs a goalie. Brizgalov is absolutely brurtal.

  36. Timo says:

    This organization is such a circus.

  37. aj says:

    Watching UFC 144 right now. Anyone here watches and likes MMA?

  38. The Jackal says:

    Did anyone catch the highlights from the Sens-Goons game? Neil took down that Chara punk, and Flopper flipped out when the sens almost tied it! It was great, too bad they lost, but its nice to see the Bruins are not that great/tough – Ottawa is not too far behind them in the standings, IMO their a better story this season than the league-protected Bruins.

  39. Les Canayens says:

    This Kostitsyn goal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahPGO8iuMvM
    Although not quite coast to coast, it is almost comparable to the Malkin goal against Tampa today. He has the physique and skill to pull off Malkinesque or even Ovechkinesque stuff. All humans not being equal, he’s only missing the mental part to lay it out night after night.

    ▭ ◌ ▭ ◌ ▭ ◌ ▭ ◌ ▭
    Scouting is subjective.

    • third generation haber says:

      That was Kostitsyn pre-concussion. He has not been the same since his concussion. He missed about 30 games! Essentially, he stopped rushing the puck and stopped busting to the net.

      Last season, his drop in offence caused the team to emphasize hitting. There u have it, a once electrifying player has become a banger who still possesses a great wrist shot.

      And as u put it, it’s not happening “night after night”. Inconsistency has become his middle name. He will need elite linemates (not on Habs) to be an impact player.

      We should shed his cap hit. He’s payed to score 25-30 goals per year, but he’s nowhere close.

      j.p. murray

  40. aj says:

    Geoff Molson’s words in his Twitter account: (http://twitter.com/#!/gmolsonchc)

    “Les rumeurs du congédiement de Pierre Gauthier sont fausses. Rumours of Pierre Gauthier’s firing are false.”

    BTW, I’m wondering what’s the possibility for the Habs to acquire Dustin Brown from the Kings come Monday?

  41. punkster says:

    Good finish to the Br00ns-Sens game so far.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  42. HabsFanMTL says:

    Man how we could have passed up on chris neil, i just saw him take on Chara AGAIN………he battles chara all the time and chara never clearly wins……….man if he isn’t afraid to tackle on chara he ain’t afraid of ANYONE……….i’d grab that guy soon as he is free or trade for him he is the definition of FEARLESS

    • CanadienBoy says:

      Still got it but is to old for us

    • Les Canayens says:

      As I and another HIO member pointed out, guys like Neil, Scott Thornton who are tough, capable players and stick up to teammates, are loyal to their teams due to being there many years. Once traded they’ll have to adjust to new teammates who were their former foes, thus will loss their edge. These type of players we’ll have to groom in house. Look how tough Moen was in Anaheim where he started. Our hope for now rests on White.

      ▭ ◌ ▭ ◌ ▭ ◌ ▭ ◌ ▭
      Scouting is subjective.

    • Bill says:

      That was beastly. And ridiculous that he should have to fight over a good, clean hit like that. He’s tuff.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • There aren’t many around like him that’s for sure

  43. Bill says:

    Amazing game between Manitoba and Alberta in Tournament of Hearts tonight … had to measure twice to determine winner in the 11th end … wow.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  44. Bill says:

    Boone, Stubbs, Mio: when is someone going to fix the poll question??

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  45. aj says:

    I’ve been reading right now Bob Mckenzie’s Twitter page and TSN regarding this report: (http://twitter.com/#!/TSNBobMcKenzie)

    so far, he did spoke to Geoff Molson about this report. As he stated on his twitter account:

    I asked Molson if hockey decision-making process/protocol with MTL any different now than at beginning of season? His response: “No.”

    Follow-up: So are you saying there’s been no change in power structure? Response: “No change.” On Molson being de facto GM: “Not true.”

    So, we could either follow Marinaro’s blockbuster news on CTV or we could wait on the official announcement that may take place soon by Molson himself.

    • Captain aHab says:

      I mean even if the rumour is true, what’s Molson going to do, confirm it? Even if he wants to change him on Monday, he said what he had to today. I mean how many times have you seen the vote of confidence a day or 2 before a firing?

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      Roy for Coach!
      Sh*t for Brains!

      • aj says:

        a vote of confidence of what? Reporters just spill the beans on what’s new like ‘gossip’. CTV Montreal w/ Marinaro turned their station into like Perez Hilton or TMZ.com buzz!

        For me though, Molson should confirm this. But, as of what he said to Mckenzie, these are just rumours. However, we could have the benefit of the doubt since these guys have inside sources (if there are) that are reporting what goes inside this organization’s management.

  46. saskhabfan says:

    Is there any talk of yzerman being fired? I mean if pg is going to be canned 2 years in as a g.m. for missing the playoffs you would think yzerman can’t be far behind considering he also has only been a g.m. for 2 years with tampa. His team sucks just as bad despite having the leagues leading goal scorer on it.So much for guy bouchers 1-3-1 system providing endless goals,shutting down the other teams best players.Nevermind the well documented boucher super psychological abilities to mentally turn all players into superstars.

    • Bill says:

      Boucher’s stock has certainly fallen! He was the flavour of the month there for a while … but his team sucks harder than it should and you have to think he’s a big part of the problem.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • Les Canayens says:

        I think Boucher is suffering from the effects of being on a pedestal early in his career. Much like prospects drafted into big markets having difficulty breaking in.

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  47. Chuck says:

    Well, at least the Leafs are falling…

    • Lawrencetown Liquor Pigs says:

      A sure sign Spring is around the corner.

      ______________________________________________________
      Lost a bottle of Kraken during this debacle of a season. Better gettem next year.

    • third generation haber says:

      So long as the leafs are on record for blocking the rest of southern-Ontario from having a hockey team, I hope they finish 9th for the next 500 years.

      We all talk about Gauthier being fired, how many lives does Burke have? At what point does it become “his team” and not a group he “inherited” from JFJ?

      I can’t wait for the magnitude 7.8 of his ego hitting the ground when they miss the playoffs for the 7th time!

      j.p. murray

  48. HabsFan82 says:

    We would have to win all of our remaining games to tie last years wins. Guess we know that’s not happening. at best we may finish with 30-32 wins. Lets Hope we do better in 2012-2013.

  49. durocher says:

    Gainey shouldn’t be advising the Canadiens. He is responsible for one of the worst trades in Habs history, perhaps the worst second only to the Roy trade.

    He also is responsible for the Gomez-Gionta-Cammy experiment, which has failed by all accounts.

    • Bill says:

      Failed is putting it kindly. Gomez-Gionta-Cammalleri is probably the worst team-rebuild in modern NHL history. 18.5 million bucks and not one of those guys did anything this year.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

    • BeachHabFan says:

      you’re right they never got to the playoffs and…. no wait, they never got past the first round of the …. no, wait they never won the cup (like 28 other teams didn’t over the past three years). whatever…. one man’s failure is another man’s three rounds in the playoffs one year and 3 ot goals short of upsetting the stanley cup champ the next…

      • durocher says:

        Riding Halak one year out of his 5+ year plan doesn’t mean his plan was at all successful.

        Indeed, one significant measure of a GM’s job is to not only be competitive in the short-term, but to keep the team in good shape in the long-term. You are witnessing Gainey’s almost total failure to give the team long-term viability.

        We can argue about semantics all day if you want, but the results speak for themselves. If you want to classify the Habs as something other than a “failure” and protect Gainey’s reputation in doing so, be my guest. It seems to me that the results are an indictment of Gainey’s decisions with the team.

        • BeachHabFan says:

          it is a question of both semantics and perspective, and pinning it on Gainey avoids both. bottom line for me is that a healthy markov/gionta/cammy/gomez over the course of the last two years would have made a huge difference in the team’s performance; if not for decent farm-hand support, they would have been in the cellar last year too. to lay this year’s performance on Gainey or Martin (remember him?) or any one factor ignores a host of other ones, and conveniently ignores immediate success (i.e., playoffs) and longer-term accomplishments (price, subban, cole acquisition, etc.).

          • durocher says:

            Your hope and conclusion relies on a big “if” — the fact remains that the players weren’t/aren’t healthy. Could Gainey have predicted these health issues? No. He is, however, the “but for” reason Cammy-Gio-Gomez were/are with the Habs.

    • ont fan says:

      There are tons of terrible trades out there…how many times have we got to hear about it..like it’s news

  50. slapshot777 says:

    Ever notice when the Leafs are on and they get scored on the camera never pans the crowd to show the visiting teams jerseys in the crowd cheering for their team.

    Yet they do it all the time when showing Habs games.

  51. habs1966 says:

    Maybe Marinaro’s scoop is just wishful thinking on his part but not many people would really want PG still in charge.

  52. novahab says:

    MVP of baseball caught red handed and still gets off. Just goes to show you, dosn’t matter if you have drug testing they still do it. So with absolutely no drug testing in the NHL we are to believe nothing is going on. Ovie is sucking because he not taking the juice. With all the money he making he afraid of the long term use.The 3rd and 4 th liners on a lot of teams are juicing to keep their place in the NHL. Anyone who thinks there no doping going on in the NHL is just plain stupid.

  53. Chuck says:

    I wonder if a GM has ever tried to trade himself.

  54. novahab says:

    How is it ever Saturday night the Leafs are at home, the team they are playing, played the night before. This team is such a loser, even when they soften teams up they can’t win. Not to mention how many penalties they get away with. The NHL is such a joke . It is time for Gary the crook Bettman to go.

  55. manu07 says:

    Seems like a back peddling act to me. Molson is just as bad as PG. where there is smoke there is fire. And if it was tweeted that Molson is in charge I don’t see wht it would be made up.

  56. Trisomy 21 says:

    Bob McKenzie ‏ @TSNBobMcKenzie
    I asked Molson if hockey decision-making process/protocol with MTL any different now than at beginning of season? His response: “No.”

    Follow-up: So are you saying there’s been no change in power structure? Response: “No change.” On Molson being de facto GM: “Not true.”

    Marinaro’s “scoop” just fell out of the cone

  57. TorontoHabsFan says:

    “I asked Molson if hockey decision-making process/protocol with MTL any different now than at beginning of season? His response: “No.” Follow-up: So are you saying there’s been no change in power structure? Response: “No change.” On Molson being de facto GM: “Not true.” – Bob McKenzie.

    Between Tony Marinaro and Bob McKenzie, I know who I’ll trust. Every. Time.

  58. edmond says:

    If Serge Savard is interested he would be a good VP Hockey Operations with complete authority to rebuild the organization. He would hire a new GM and he could groom a young GM such as a Joel Bouchard. He and the GM can then look for a coach, some candidates already mentioned such as Carbo or Roy would be good choices. He could then clean out pro and amateur scouting by hiring new managers and staff for those areas. Savard should also hire a manager of player development to follow prospects from the draft on through to the NHL, a candidate could be someone like Eric Desjardins. Bottom line is that the org needs a complete clean up starting with thanking Bob Gainey, Mr. Gauthier, and Cunny for their services. Savard would be the right man for this job but I do not see him as day to day GM given his age. He would however be an excellent VP and leader.

    Ed.

    • frozengolf says:

      Excellent post, I agree 100%!

      _________________________________________________________
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    • kerrgte says:

      Serge was great in his day.

      He couldn’t do it anymore. He’s been out of it so long and he is not a young man.

      Wait for the summer. In the meantime. the good news is that PG is being managed.

      It must be really tough to be a GM today. Every GM is trying to improve his team, make the best deal, get the best draft selection, get the best coach, etc. Noone gets a steal anymore, every GM is pretty hockey smart and well educated.

  59. HardHabits says:

    Did PG try to trade Price?

  60. Rad says:

    So we have a lame duck Coach and a lame duck GM. Wonderful way of running a multi-million dollar business.

  61. Bill says:

    Molson tweets “rumours of Pierre Gauthier’s firing are false”.

    Weird tweet. No-one was saying Gauthier was fired.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  62. SmartDog says:

    It makes sense that Molson (or someone besides PG) is calling the shots. After the Kaberle trade, if you’re the owner, you’d be a moron not to take over soon after.

    AND… when you consider the return on Gill was actually GOOD… well, that’s not PG.

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    Listen to the Smart Dog. He knows his poop!

  63. Psycho29 says:

    Marinaro just tweeted that what he said on TV was not his big news.

    The blockbuster is:
    “Mama-Mia Bakery on Dollard Avenue in Lasalle just took the cannolis out of the oven. They will cool down in 5 minutes.”

  64. Bill says:

    Toronto doesn’t get short-handed much, despite all that emphasis on “truculence” … I wonder what percentage of NHL referees are from southern Ontario?

    Full Breezer 4 Life

    • Mad Habber says:

      Have you seen the core of the team, not a lot of “truculence” there. The only place that might have it is their defense, and that is the worst part of the team.

    • saskhabfan says:

      I’ve read in some tsn comments section a while back that it was almost 50% so i went to the nhl.com website and went to the nhloa section and it turns out he/she was right. It like 17 out of 38 or something like that. You would think it would be some kind of conflict of interest or something.

  65. aj says:

    By the way things are happening at the moment, it seems that all of this Buzz going on is too soon to be validated as true. If Molson does seems to make 100% of all the decisions in Habs Management, then we could be hearing (and seeing) him doing most of the Phone Call work on Monday. But, we don’t have more concrete proof and Gauthier might still yet have to play a role in the decision making come deadline. Plus, this is late February and April is 6 somewhat weeks away.

    We need to be cautious on these sources IHMO. We’ll just have to wait and see what Molson will announce soon…..

    • Psycho29 says:

      I guarantee Molson won’t be doing the grunt work on Monday. Gauthier will still be making the calls, but Molson will give his approval. (If what Marinaro said IS true)…

    • kerrgte says:

      no way he can get so directly involved, he’s got a multi-billion $ company to run, and this is just one of them.

      he’ll be there though for any big decisions. PG will be on a short leash.

  66. temekuhabs says:

    Shack was a hoot..

  67. Captain aHab says:

    So who was at the press conference and what did they say?

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    Roy for Coach!
    Sh*t for Brains!

    • otter649 says:

      Google CTV Montreal & go to their video player. The segment was taped a few hours earlier as the background shows daylight as I kind of doubt Mariano could do anything in a single take……

  68. temekuhabs says:

    2-0 Caps 3min in

  69. HabinBurlington says:

    So the big scoop is PG is on Double Secret Probation minus the secret part?

  70. punkster says:

    Reimer ain’t no Bower.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  71. solomio says:

    Lets face it Markov is not the answer. He is part of it though. Once he shakes the rust off and gets back into the swing of things he is a ( I’m not going say very good )a good defensemen and will be a big plus for the power play.
    So speaking of defence first here’s how its shaping up.
    I’m thinking Habs will not be able to move Kaberle.
    Going to have to move him to the right side and pair him with Markov. Sorry its the only way I can see to save Kabby’s butt.
    I like Emelin – Subban. Diaz will have to move to the left side and will play with Gorges on the right.
    Weber and Campoli are gone.
    D will look like this : Markov – Kaberle / Diaz –Gorges / Emelin –Subban

    On the offence: Until proved otherwise the # 1 line is Pacioretty / Desharnais and Cole.. The weakness here is at center where amongst big, rough,tough D’s, Desharnais will be getting smashed big time, especially in a playoff scenario. He may have to be moved to a wingers position.
    The # 2 line will be Leblanc / Plekanec / Gionta – the weakness here is Leblanc- he’s naturally a center and he’s a rookie. Habs may want to look at bringing in a power type left winger.
    The #3 line will be Kostitsyn / Eller / Bourque. I think Kostitsyn will remain a Hab ( and I think that’s as it should be ). Him and Eller did have good chemistry. I know with Bourque & Kostitsyn it could be no show nights too often however Eller does play an energy game and those two guys won’t be able to slouch as Eller will keep them moving and active.
    The #4 line will be Moen ( Blunden ) / White / Palushaj – Well most say Moen will be dealt. Who’s going to replace him? Moen will be difficult to replace. The 4 th line is very very important. White at center is a natural but do Blunden and Palushaj have what it takes. In all good conscience you could not throw that line out there. You need some experience, grit and some scoring ability on either side of White.
    Who’s out ? Darche, Gomez,Nokelanen.

    In goal we need a much better, experienced player who can take a lot of the work load off Carey while contributing victories.

    “I figure PG has one or 2 moves left to bring the Habs that extra step closer to perhaps being the best in the league.” – Einstein

    • adamkennelly says:

      that team will suck again…

    • Bob_Sacamano says:

      Kaberle needs to go. We need a big physical dman with experience to play on the third pair with Diaz. Subban and Emelin on the second pair, Markov and Gorges on the first. A pretty decent D if Markov, well we all know… Weber, Nash, and Beaulieu would provide the depth.

      DD is not a first line center. It´s amazing how many would like to trade Pleks whom we couldn´t replace btw. Leblanc should play RW on the third line centered by DD, Moen or Bourque LW here. I would then have a big second line with Eller and Cole and Kostitsyn, Bourque or a “new” player and Plekanec on the first with Pacioretty and Gionta.

      As for the fourth line: You forgot Geoffrion. I think Blunden – Geoffrion – White could be a pretty decent checking line. Depth is provided by Engqvist, Schultz, Palushaj and Gallagher.

      With a decent head coach this team could look relatively good. Not a contender but not worse than the current Senators who are pretty much a lock for the playoffs with 20 games left. Please keep in mind, I have only included one definite new player. I think we´ll make more changes and possibly also have our 2012 first round pick ready for some NHL action. Things aren´t looking that bad if we get a good GM and Head Coach. Unfortunately that´s a big “if”…

      • J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

        Yup. Big, physical d-man would be at the very top of my shopping list. Fill that requirement, and we have a very solid d-corps going into the season.

        I remember Dec. 31, 1975

    • J.Ambrose.OBrien says:

      I agree that Bourque will end up on the 3rd line. And management will certainly be looking to find another top-6 forward because LL isn’t going to do it.

      I doubt that our 4th line will be as you imagine. I think building a true 4th line will be near the top of the new GM’s To-Do list. That starts with a good, tough, face-off proficient centerman.

      As for Kaberle, I hope you are wrong, and they find a way to repair that horrible Gauthier error (one of his many!) and get rid of him somehow.

      I remember Dec. 31, 1975

  72. kerrgte says:

    I bet PG’s real review will come in the summer when the pressure is off. It would be impossible to find a replacement now. Who would be suicidal enough to want the job with the team in this state?

    In the meantime, PG is being managed.

  73. punkster says:

    OK, now this is fun!

    Johnny Bower, Eddie Shack, Dick Duff, Bobby Baun, George Armstrong…the ’62 Cup champs.

    I was 10 years old and these guys were my heroes. Missing, of course, my number 1 hero…Dave Keon.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  74. twilighthours says:

    This is my first experience with marinaro. I suspect it will be my last.


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