Canadiens hold afternoon practice


The Canadiens chartered to Edmonton after Tuesday’s 5-4 loss to the Flames in Calgary.
They held a Wednesday afternoon practice at Rexall Place.
Scott Gomez and Aaron Palushaj were back, and Louis Leblanc and Andres Engqvist were dispatched to Hamilton.
The Canadiens have signed Patrick Holland to a pro contract.

The club announcement:

In 66 games with the WHL’s Tri-City Americans, Holland ranks sixth in the league and third on the
Americans with 101 points (24 goals and 77 assists). He ranks first in the WHL in assists (77) and tied for
second in the league in shorthanded assists (5). The 6’00’’ and 175 lbs right winger displays a +37
plus/minus differential and served 44 penalty minutes.

A native of Lethbridge, Alberta, Holland, 20, has recorded 199 points (62 goals and 137 assists) in 197
games since his junior debut with Tri-City in 2008-09. He was drafted by the Calgary Flames in the seventh
round, 193rd overall at the 2010 NHL Entry Draft. Holland was acquired from the Flames last January 12 with
Rene Bourque and a second round draft pick in 2013, in return for Michael Cammalleri, Karri Ramo and a fifth
round draft pick in 2012.

In other news, Joffrey Lupul suffered a shoulder separation against the Bruins and is out of the Toronto lineup for four weeks.

Say goodnight, (the other) Randy.

The videos begin on a whimsical note.

Leaving the ice surface at Rexall Place after a spirited practice, Randy Cunneyworth and his players signed the jersey of a kid at the Zamboni entrance.


  1. habitunts1 says:

    Is Roy a lock to get the coaching job next season? And will Markov be able to play again times running out on him


  2. 44har48 says:

    Guys, no tanking….this is the pros. These guys have pride and more importantly are pros, paid to do a job. I understand some less classy organizations have tanked in previous years and teh Habs are not so classy this year, but come on…

    Play the kids, give budaj a start or two, look to the future, but play hard every shift and try to win with what’s on the ice.

    More importantly, let’s turn the corner and get a little momentum for the offseason and next year.

    • Natrous says:

      Taking only works for teams with a weak fans base who don’t pay insane amounts of money to watch their team fail (i.e. Columbus, NYI, Atlanta of old, etc.). If the Habs were to truly tank, we would see riots in the stands.

      Instead, what we get to see these days is sheer ineptitude. Rookie mistakes on the back-end, blatant disinterest on the front end – of course there are exceptions, but for the most part the team knows the season is over and the passion just isn’t there.

      We’re not tanking – we’re losing due to under-average compete level and below-par skill.

  3. H.Upmann says:

    Never thought I’d say this: but perhaps the way we’ve shipped out players or mishandled a few is a sign of extreme arrogance on the part of management over the last few years… Maybe this is karma

    • 44har48 says:

      I think in a nutshell, we have lacked serious talent for many years. Now this team or these leaders have a style of play they demand to have on the ice but the talented players they acquired to execute it, appear to not fit that style.

      Why have we picked up so many goal scorers over the years, by trade or draft, only to have them come here and struggle to score goals?

      • Natrous says:

        The answer to your question is obvious – we’ve played a system that fosters defense first, offense second. Until we get an organizational re-alignment that shies away from Gainey/Martin-style hockey and looks to generate offense, we’re going to keep with the same old stuff.

  4. The Dude says:

    By now you all know what I loath Gauthier and Gainey for what has happened to something I’ve been watching now for over 50 years .The destruction of The Montreal Canadiens est un job fait complete. But I will give the Boob and the Goat this…..If you ever want your team to Tank for many years to come ,these are your GUY’S! They can magically make every other team in the NHL ,KHL and Ahl look magnificent …and that makes them fk’n special .( Hey , they will even give you the players to do it for nada,lol)

  5. H.Upmann says:


  6. JIMVINNY says:

    It kinds of bothers me that me and my whining about refs used to be one of the biggest problems on this site. Operative words being “used to be”. Now that the terrible moves of the last 5 years have finally caught up with us, the doomsayers are out in droves, and my b*tching about the refs is nothing compared to them.

    Oh, for a 91 point season again…..

    • RGM says:

      Even if we go 15-0 the rest of the way we can only hope for 90. LOL

      I think that the incompetence of NHL refereeing is just something that we have come to understand as being part of the game. Some call it a conspiracy but really, let’s be serious, these boobs don’t have the intelligence to orchestrate something so majestic as to rig an entire League’s outcomes. They are just terrible.

      GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is probably not our year!
      “Scott Gomez is an elite NHL player” – VancouverHab

      Chat with me on Twitter @TheRealRGM81

  7. Stev.R says:

    If the leafs lose 5 of their last 15 games they are almost certainly out. Right now their chances of making it in are only 8%

  8. The Dude says:

    We be kicking the tires in 2016….watch out Stanley!

  9. Dulljerk says:

    Dated, but you catch the drift. Draft picks in quantity are a better solution. Trade for them.

    1. Mark Streit, New York Islanders: Streit was drafted 262nd overall in the 2004 NHL Entry Draft by the Montreal Canadiens. The Swiss-born defenceman arrived in the NHL during the 2005-06 season, and hasn’t looked back. Since his arrival, he’s played in 205 games, scoring 25 goals and 84 assists while providing steady play on the blueline. He was signed this summer by the New York Islanders to a five-year, $20.5 million free agent contract. Not bad for 262nd overall at all.

    2. Martin Gerber, Ottawa Sentators: Gerber was drafted 232nd overall in 2001 by the Anaheim Mighty Ducks. In 200 NHL games, Gerber has put up respectable numbers for the Ducks, Carolina Hurricanes, and Ottawa Senators. He has a career GAA of 2.60 to go along with a career save percentage of .911 while compiling a 100-64-7-13 record. He helped Carolina win a Stanley Cup, and returned to the finals with Ottawa.

    3. Henrik Lundqvist, New York Rangers: Lundqvist has already put together an impressive resumé. Drafted by the Rangers 205th overall in the 2000 NHL Entry Draft, Lundqvist broke into the NHL in 2005-06 in style by winning 30 games in his rookie season. He also helped Sweden win an Olympic gold medal that year. He hasn’t slowed down in the last two years. In 195 NHL games, Lundqvist has a record of 104-58-0-27 (no ties), 17 shutouts, a GAA of 2.27, and a save percentage of .917. The Rangers made sure to keep him as a Blueshirt, signing him to a six-year deal this past season.

    4. Henrik Zetterberg, Detroit Red Wings: Zetterberg might be the epitome of the kind of player you hope to find at the bottom of the pile. Drafted 210th overall in 1999 by the Detroit Red Wings, Zetterberg went from unknown to superstar. He broke into the league in 2002-03, and racked up 22 goals and 22 assists to start off his career. Not impressive, but not shabby. Five seasons later, look at these numbers: 355 games played, 152 goals, 180 assists, a Stanley Cup, a Conn Smythe Trophy, and an Olympic gold medal in 2006. That’s how a star is made.

    5. Tomas Kaberle, Toronto Maple Leafs: For a Toronto team that has perennially been thin on the back end, drafting Kaberle has to stand-out as a major highlight. The Buds drafted Kaberle 204th overall in 1996, and he’s been a mainstay on the Toronto blueline since the 1998-99 season. The savvy veteran defenceman has been a highlight year in and year out for the Maple Leafs. In 681 NHL games, Kaberle has scored 69 goals and added 333 assists while playing on the top defensive unit. The three-time NHL all-star has won an Olympic bronze medal for the Czech Republic.

    6. Evgeni Nabokov, San Jose Sharks: The Russian goaltender was drafted 219th overall in 1994 by the Sharks, but had a lot of trouble establishing himself as the go-to-guy in San Jose. His rookie season was officially in 2000-01, and he has played in the majority of San Jose’s games since that time. In 430 NHL games, Nabokov has a GAA of 2.37, a save percentage of .911, 40 shutouts, and a record of 208-150-29-19. However, Nabokov really took the reins last season, playing 77 games and going 46-21-8. Nabokov became the first European-born goalie to score a goal on March 10, 2002 when he shot the puck from the top of his crease into Vancouver’s open net. Nabokov also won the Calder Trophy as best rookie in 2000-01, and won a gold medal in the World Championships in 2008. Impressive, to say the least.

    7. Kimmo Timonen, Philadelphia Flyers: Timonen was drafted 250th overall in 1993 by the Los Angeles Kings, but he never got to spend any time in southern California. On June 26, 1998, the Kings dealt Timonen, along with Jan Vopat, to the Nashville Predators for future considerations. It was in Nashville, under the watchful eye of head coach Barry Trotz, that Timonen became a solid offensive defenceman. He signed a six-year deal with the Philadelphia Flyers in June 2007 after being traded with Scott Hartnell from Nashville for a first-round pick. Timonen broke into the NHL in 1998-99 and has not looked back. In 653 NHL games, Timonen has scored 87 goals and 258 assists. He has represented his country of Finland in 1998 and 2006 at the Winter Olympics, winning a bronze medal and a silver medal, respectively. Timonen is highly regarded, and plays the defensive side of the puck as well as he does the offensive side.

    8. Nikolai Khabibulin, Chicago Blackhawks: The man known as the “‘Bulin Wall” was drafted 204th overall by the Winnipeg Jets in the 1992 NHL Entry Draft, and Khabibulin has certainly shown his value. He spent two seasons with the Jets before the franchise moved south to Phoenix. He spent three more seasons in the desert before he was traded to the Tampa Bay Lightning along with Stanislav Neckar for Mike Johnson, Paul Mara, Ruslan Zaynullin and a second-round pick in the 2001 draft. After four seasons in the Sunshine State, Khabibulin was signed by the Blackhawks in a free agent deal. However, it was his time in Tampa Bay where he’ll be remembered. In 2003-04, Khabibulin and the Lightning won the Stanley Cup. Khabibulin also won a bronze medal at the 2002 Winter Olympics. For a guy drafted in the ninth-round, he’s played in 586 NHL games posting a 251-239-58-11 record, a 2.69 GAA, and a .908 save percentage with 36 shutouts.

    9. Igor Larionov, retired: The Russian superstar was originally drafted 214th overall by the Vancouver Canucks in 1985 due to the political issues that faced Russian players attempting to defect to North America. He finally reached Vancouver for the 1989-90 season. Larionov played three seasons for the Canucks before he was claimed off waivers by the San Jose Sharks. The Sharks swapped “The Professor” and a conditional pick to Detroit for Ray Sheppard. After signing with Florida in 2000, the Panthers traded Larionov back to Detroit for Yan Golubovsky. Just listen to this list of achievements: 1979 and 1980 World Junior Champion; 1981 Canada Cup Champion; 1984 and 1988 Olympic gold medalist; 1982, 1983, 1986, and 1989 World Champion; 1997, 1998, and 2002 Stanley Cup Champion; 2002 Olympic bronze medalist. In 921 NHL games, Larionov notched 169 goals and 644 assists. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg in terms of his hockey prowess. Larionov might be the greatest 200th overall pick in the history of the game.

    10. Dominik Hasek, retired: The flamboyant Czech goalie was drafted 207th overall by the Chicago Blackhawks in 1983. Hasek was selected at his low position due to the Communist regime in Czechoslovakia at the time, the same reason as Larionov’s low position. Hasek’s rookie season was officially in 1991-92, nearly eight years after he was drafted. Playing backup to Ed Belfour didn’t last long as Hasek was dealt to the Buffalo Sabres for Stephane Beauregard. It was in Buffalo that Hasek’s legend grew to superstar status. After nine seasons in Buffalo, Hasek was traded to Detroit for Vyacheslav Kozlov and a couple of draft picks. After a short stint in Ottawa that was riddled with injuries, he returned to Detroit to finish his career. His legacy is unquestionable: 1998 Olympic gold medalist, 1997 and 1998 Hart Trophy winner as NHL MVP, and 2002 and 2007 Stanley Cup Champion. And let’s not forget how he developed his unorthodox style of goaltending known as “the flop”.

    11. Dave Taylor, retired: Taylor was drafted 210th overall by the Los Angeles Kings in 1975. Taylor broke into the NHL in 1977-78 with the Kings, and became the face of the franchise for many years. Over 17 seasons with the Kings, Taylor played in 1111 NHL games, scoring 431 goals and 638 assists. He won both the King Clancy Trophy and the Bill Masterton Trophy in the NHL, and played in the NHL All-Star Game four times. He also has the distinction of being selected by the Houston Cougars of the WHA’s Amateur Draft in 1974. The closest that Taylor got to a Stanley Cup was in 1993 when the Montreal Canadiens defeated the Kings in the final. However, in 1995 – one year after he retired – Taylor had his number retired by the Los Angeles Kings, the third in team history.

    “Is the little dog going to yap, or is he going to bite?”

    • nickster13 says:

      Things in common? Basically all Europeans, goes to show you how little scouting goes on there even to this day. Most teams have about 1 scout for places like eastern europe or sweden, etc. But there are oodles of good hockey players there, that many more scouts should be there.

      “I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”

      • Bill says:

        Things in common … all highly anomalous cases. The vast majority of late picks are never heard from again.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

        • Les Canayens says:

          Indeed. One can make a list 150 times longer with all the late round picks, describing their lives as lawyers and real estate agents after their time in the AHL or ECHL. Or junior for those who never turned pro.

    • The Dude says:

      It was going great until 5) Craperlay and his floor hockey stick…

  10. Laramy87 says:

    I know its prospects and not all prospects turn out like david fischer – – I urged you to look at that link, what did Habs management see in him. What is more depressing is in the first round of that draft Claude Giroux went two picks after fishcer, Lucic in the second round and marchand in the 3rd.

    However that being said, Habs have 2 prospects in top 20 scoring in the WHL in Holland and Gallagher and 2 in the top 10 defence scoring in the Q in Bealieau and Ellis.

    Heres hoping our future turns out well. I am glad Leblanc is back in Hamilton, get him more minutes and next year he should have a full time position. I get to see him play on Saturday too, so thanks for sending him back.

    • podbay says:

      The Habs drafted Fischer and Ryan McDonaugh out of Minnesota, and for while it looked like they would both make the team. We know what happened to McDonaugh. It’s a pity Fischer wasn’t able to continue to develop his high school magic into a pro career.

  11. HardHabits says:

    Tankers are winners.

    We win. You lose. Thanks for playing.

  12. Montreal1993 says:

    I just don’t get it, all this talk about pride and not supporting the habs etc… the team has not reached this low point in decades, and yes this season has been painful to watch, but to turn some sort of positive out of this season is a high draft pick, put pride aside and relish this moment, the habs have a chance of drafting some great talent this draft, picking top 5 in every round is a gift in disguise. If anybody thinks that next season will be any different, you might be right, on the other hand it could be replicated as this season. Healthy markov and gionta wont bring us that much closer to the cup, one could only hope that the development of patches, eller, subban, price, will only do us good. In terms of free agency this coming summer, i dont see the habs making any impact, only supplementing role players, no parise etc, but who knows maybe a yakapov, grigorenko, galchenyuk, forsberg, might help us out long term. My main and only concern is drafting a top talent forward, we have three defensive prospects due for hamilton next season. Lets lock this bitch down and get us some elite talent (one could only hope)

  13. aj says:

    By the way, who’s the best golfer at this lineup? I’m probably sure they might be shining those golf clubs early just in time for the summer.

  14. habs17 says:

    Habs resign Holland 3 years, he leads league with 77 assists

    I SUPPORT (every1 knows who i support)

  15. Dulljerk says:

    Loser talk all around on this site. Wanting a team to tank. Shame. Not only do the players have no honour or pride, apparently neither do the fans on this site. Maurice Richard would be very disappointed in this lot.

    “Is the little dog going to yap, or is he going to bite?”

    • habs17 says:

      no he wouldn’t

      I SUPPORT (every1 knows who i support)

      • Dulljerk says:

        Oh yes, I forgot, he was a notorious tanker.

        “Is the little dog going to yap, or is he going to bite?”

        • HardHabits says:

          He was what made the Habs turn from a Tanking Team to a Champing Team. The Habs need another one. They don’t come around often and usually are taken in the first few picks. Deal with it and embrace it. Let go of your pent up prejudices.

          • Dulljerk says:

            Will do, Mr. Gauthier.

            “Is the little dog going to yap, or is he going to bite?”

    • belle_moustache says:

      Ah come on Dulljerk! What do you want the team to do? To win all its remaining games and still miss the playoffs and have a lower draft pick?

      We want this team to tank because WE CARE about this team. We’re tired of being a middle-to-bottom-of-the-pack team, and we realize that the best way to go back to the top is to start with a high draft pick.

      “Loser talk all around on this site”. What do you want us to do??? “Go Habs Go”, “you’re the best, you can do it Habs”?? Wouldn’t that sound a little hollow considering the season we’ve had?

      • makka83 says:

        DullJerk isn’t a Habs fan. It’s painfully obvious he either cheers for a pathetic team like the Leafs or Oilers and hates the Habs. Just watch what he says on the site.

        • Dulljerk says:

          I have been a Habs fan for 55 years Mokka, makka, or whatever you’re calling yourself this week. I’ve seen the best of the Habs and the worst, but I would never want a team to tank. The psychological damage to a professional athlete’s and team’s code of ethics is easily damaged. They are professionals who are paid to win, not tank. Sorry. Trade some slugs for draft picks. Not all superstars come in the top 5 picks. The secret to the draft is to have as many high picks as possible, not necessarily the number one pick.

          “Is the little dog going to yap, or is he going to bite?”

          • HardHabits says:

            Try explaining that to the Habs. They let Streit and Souray go for nothing. 11 UFA’s before he smurf summer signings. 1st and 2nd pick for Tanguay.

            Tanking is only part of it. But keep trying to focus on one thing and make it seem ignoble. It isn’t. You are just some kind of moralistic close minded person who can’t see an opportunity for what it is.

            Oh the shame. How awful for Habs fans to want the Habs to stay in the cellar.

            You want psychologically damaging? Look at the whole Koivu-Kovalev rift. How about the Price-Halak situation. Look at all the players the Habs ship out for peanuts.

            I don’t care how long you have been a Habs fan for. As far as I can tell you are caught up in preconceived notions and rigid and inflexible thinking.

            Draft high
            Draft often
            Draft well in the late rounds
            Take the time necessary in developing players via the system including coaching, physical and mental training, nutrition and mentoring
            Free agency

            That is the order of steps needed to build a winner and they are ordered by importance.

            Thanks for playing.

  16. habstrinifan says:

    Wonder why LeBlanc was sent down and not Geoffrion. LeBlanc has shown more.

    • Bill says:

      It’s better for the Habs to have a serious prospect like Leblanc playing 18 minutes a game in Hamilton instead of Geoffrion.

      Also Geoffrion is one of Gauthier’s Major Acquisitions, so it’s better PR to keep him on the big club.

      And finally, having Geoffrion around gives reporters a chance to focus on distracting things like the past.

      That about covers it.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • aj says:

        It’s pretty clear that by the time this season will be over, the ‘goat’ will do the same old scenario of blaming the head coach by just removing (and congratulating) Randy Cunneyworth in order to not take the blame. He knows that by doing this, both him and Gainey will still be keeping their jobs and the guy who’s acting like the idiot here for keeping up with the team’s misfortunes is Mr. Molson himself!

  17. Bill says:

    Jennifer Hedger … wow.

    Only on mute, of course.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  18. Cal says:

    Laffs fall to Pitts 3-2 in regulation. 🙂

  19. punkster says:

    Excellent. Leafs blow too.

    ***Subbang Baby!!!***

  20. The Gonk says:

    Regarding Dietz. For Bill or anyone else who knows, why can’t Dietz be play in the AHL next year? What’s the CBA rule? Just want to know.

    • Bill says:

      Not a CBA rule: it’s an agreement between the CHL and the AHL. If you are a junior-drafted player, you can’t play in the AHL until the year you turn 20, or until you have played four years in junior, whichever comes first.

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • The Gonk says:

        Thanks for probably stating the obvious!

        • Bill says:

          Not obvious at all! Like I said, it’s just an agreement they have. And just to be clear, I could be wrong, but that’s my understanding of things.

          EDIT: I just look at the birth year of the player and add 20. If it adds up to the current year, they are AHL eligible. So this year, anyone born in 1992 could play.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

  21. BKAK72 says:

    Who are the 554 traitors that want the LEAFS to make the playoffs?

    Stupid question for a HABS site!


    • HardHabits says:

      The best thing for them is to make the play-offs. It will be as a last seed. It will be with a 1st round exit. It will be a futile endeavour for avid and rabid fans but it will be a cash grab nevertheless. All that with a crappy draft pick and no future for the organization.

      If they miss the play-offs they accept that they are bad and might even consider a rebuild and end up doing so bad that they too get a high draft pick. Screw that. I want them to suffer.

  22. billylove says:

    Watched the Oilers beat the Sharks last night. It was more a matter of the Sharks continuing their free fall rather than the Oilers playing a strong game. Everyone praises the Oilers for all their young talent and granted they do have young talent but they are a very shaky bunch with plenty of holes. Looks like a tossup to me.

  23. Kimberly2u says:

    Leafs are losing….yeah

  24. Bill says:

    Carolina picks up loser point to move five points up on the Habs and they are now even in games. Last in the East with a bullet!! No way we’re picking worse than third.

    Full Breezer 4 Life

  25. showey47 says:

    sabres win again,2 points out of a playoff spot.

    • Yep, too bad the Habs couldn’t have made that one key move to get in a ringer and get back on track. The Sabres were behind us before they folded tent and pulled poll.

      Tanking is for losers, and right now that’s all they are.

      I hope everyone is happy.

      This place has never sucked so bad in the 5 years we’ve been here.

      Back to watching movies with the kids 🙂 Thank god for my little family, it’d be a long few weeks without them.

      They Call Me Shane
      “They never asked to be Canadiens, they were Chosen.”
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  26. anotherhab says:

    rumor has it Randy’s taking the boys out bowling tomorrow morning — can anyone confirm this??

  27. otter649 says:

    The Leafs maybe on their way to another loss against the Pens as they only have two wins in their last 13 games against the 28th & 29th place teams (Habs/Oilers)……….

  28. ont fan says:

    Hamilton is probably going to be an interesting place this fall. I know nothing about the coaches. Will they get differant ones or are they here to stay. Anybody?

  29. The Gonk says:

    Must say when I read Boone’s post I had that nano-second wishful thought that Gomez had been sent to Hamilton. I also thought this is would be poison to our prospects in the minors. In a rational word, logic dictates he’ll be bought out. But this is Habsworld and Gauthier might actually stick around. Perish the thought, but alas.

    • HabFab says:

      Mac Bennett on his kid sister; When asked how she chirps while playing hockey, my sister said “I say real f*cked up things like I’m gonna kill your family” #psycho
      Hopefully he too has some of that jam. I can remember his uncle Curt fighting.

  30. The Gonk says:

    Good to see Holland signed. Let’s see how his game translates in the minors. Beaulieu has to be signed, he’s the real deal. The Bulldogs will be stacked with fresh prospects next year. Pateryn has to be signed too by this summer. The other American college kids like Quailer, Kristo and Bennett could be in Hamilton as well. It will be interesting to see if guys like Avitsin and Engqvist stick around next year.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      We’re all hoping for a quick turnaround next season, which isn’t beyond the realm of possibility. More likely, we’ll be waiting for the Bulldogs to spit out some pretty impressive prospects that will start arriving in Hamilton next season.

      • The Gonk says:

        I think 2013-14 will be a good season for the Habs. There’s too many moving parts and I believe a lot of wistful thinking that next year will make for a sudden turnaround. We’ll be better I think, but we’re so bad now and the ownership/management stability and vision issue before us is a huge wildcard. But I remain hopeful.

        • Bill says:

          I know no-one believes this, but this year has been an anomaly. The Habs are not this bad: they’ve had an unusual number of key injuries and a ton of plain bad luck.

          The Habs are actually what they’ve been for the past few years: a low-seed playoff team.

          They will be that again next year. And actually, if they have an average number of injuries, they could be better than that. Subban has emerged. Price is entering his prime. Pacioretty is now a bonafide 30 goal man, and Cole has been added as well. Desharnais contributes significant offense, and Plekanec will rebound. Gorges has never played better and also has entered his prime.

          No reason to think the Habs will be this bad again next year at all. Unless, of course, they have another freakish injury season.

          Full Breezer 4 Life

          • HabFab says:

            I agree! Some what! Maybe or at least they should have done better. Team had about a dozen question marks or big IF’s going into the season. Unfortunately not many turned out positive.

          • The Gonk says:

            That could be true. That’s a reasonable prediction. Provided that we have good coaching in whoever that new person is. To me, the wildcard still is management. I can’t envision Gauthier staying but I could be completely wrong. If he stays can he be rational and buy out Gomez and Kaberle (who in IMHO can’t be on this team going forward)? Can he dip in to the FA pool and sign a vet D-man and someone like Parenteau to play with Plekanec? What happens to Moen? What dollars are given to Price and Subban?

          • neumann103 says:


            This is a #6-#8 Eastern conference team that had a bad year. Yes they have played like complete crap for long stretches but this is not a team in need of a complete rebuild.

            They will not get a lot of help from the kids in 2012-2013. Most of the intriguing prospects will need at least a year in Hamilton

            “Et le but!”

    • Just A Guy says:

      Those NCAA guys are screwed up and should be considered projects, according to I think Qualier can make the jump, Kristo has to do another year apparently and Bennet another two.

      Regardless, with Beaulieu, Tinordi, Dietz and Ellis probably going to the AHL next season on D, Gallagher, Bournival and Holland up front, I think the major retooling in Hamilton won’t be so difficult. Bulldogs have a serious amount of RFA’s going into the offseason this year.

      • The Gonk says:

        I bet Dietz stays another year in the WHL. I think you are largely right though – those American college boys are projects, but Pateryn definitely has to signed now or else we lose his rights.

      • HabFab says:

        Dietz has another year of Junior but Pateryn is graduating from College.

      • Bill says:

        I don’t think Dietz is eligible for the AHL next year … too young unless I miss my guess. But that will be a very interesting team for sure.

        Full Breezer 4 Life

        • The Gonk says:

          Dietz has be signed by 2013. I think the Bulldogs will have too many new prospects on D to warrant his signing this year, but you never know.

          • Bill says:

            Regardless of signing, he can’t play in the AHL until 2013. He’ll spend the year in junior.

            Full Breezer 4 Life

    • dorvalhabsfan says:


      Go Habs Go

  31. Albatros says:

    Do any of you guys know when Bettman will give the Habs their “participant” trophies for this year?

    • nickster13 says:

      He’ll always give us high fives as we bring in a significant chunk of NHL revenue, even when we suck

      “I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”

      • Bozo McBozo says:

        Jeff Molson has just announced that to make this year’s squad feel special, there will be a “participant” banner raising to start the 2012-13 campaign.

  32. Albatros says:

    If I was Jeff Molson, I would put a bounty on any guy who scores in Edmonton!

  33. Albatros says:

    Just swooped in to see if we have made any more progress in landing the #1 pick in the draft. Come on boys! Don’t give up now! Have a little faith, we can catch Columbus. Coach start the B-man for the rest of the season. Gomer, this is yer chance to earn some of that coin and help the franchise. Return to the lineup with all speed. Campoli, handle the puck more. Hell, rush it all the way if you have less than three guys covering you. No dumb penalties, we can kill those off. We need to play at even strength to accomplish our main objective. Pleks, keep up the D-zone faceoff fadeaways! Even the Leafs can pot one of those!

    We’re on the verge of eternal greatness this year. Stay the course! Stay the course!

    • HabFab says:

      May a panzer run over your foot and the Phillies win the World Series.

      • Albatros says:

        It’s ours baby, just dust it off! The Skate for 28 begins in just a few weeks time! Woo woo!!!

        • HabFab says:

          Have you seen any of these? What a talent Wayne Gretzky, even years later I’m amazed!!

          • kholdstare says:

            I know his greatest assist ever.

          • Albatros says:

            Stay on topic! The only greatness I am willing to discuss is in the Bronx. Used to be in Montreal this time of year, but the wheels came off the Zamboni.

          • kholdstare says:

            Yankees fan? Seriously, how can you be a yankees fan? The only people that should be yankee fans are people who live in New York, and even then they should probably cheer for the Mets.

          • HabFab says:

            Sorry, a pretty face and viola! What where we saying?
            Oh yeah, pin strips come October huh! Not sure, although it just dawned on me how your 25 game rule came about. It just about matches World Series time, so not a studied decision but a Yankee inspired disinterest until that time. Ummmm!
            Actually haven’t paid that much attention to base aballa since my beloved Expos died, so cannot give you a good debate here bro.

          • Bozo McBozo says:

            Bombers look tough this year. Bobby Valentine skippering the Bosox? I remember when he managed the Mets in the last Subway Series. He gushed so much over the Yanks, ya’d think he was a fan.

          • HabFab says:

            They are classics when they occur BUT so much choke out of teams from bean town.
            Never have so many come so close for naught!

        • boing007 says:

          If you chose your name to honour the sea bird, it needs one more s on the end.

          Richard R

  34. durocher says:

    RE: the huge hit by Kronwall on Voracek:
    I am not upset at the hit, but I’m disappointed at how the Flyers could just let Kronwall skate back to his bench after delivering that huge hit. Clean hit or not, the Flyers should stick up for their injured player and make Kronwall pay. What kind of Flyers squad doesn’t jump Kronwall?

    • nickster13 says:

      Clean hit, I hate all this retribution stuff after a clean big hit. Voracek was not injured really, he was just a little dazed. Im glad the flyers didnt make a scene of it like goofs like Malone would do.

      “I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”

      • HardHabits says:

        Malone was reacting after Emelin layed him out illegally. Malone wasn’t carrying the puck when Emelin hit him. Emelin should learn not to do that again because anybody would want to take his head off for it.

      • Albatros says:

        Rest assured it will never happen on this Habs squad. They don’t have the nuts God gave squirrels.

    • zak says:

      You want players to pay for clean hits???

      Hire the best regardless of language

    • Malreg says:

      I’m tired of this concept that there has to be a fight after every single hit.

      It’s a clean hit. Play on, keep your head up next time. Take the guy’s number, and next time he gets the puck, hit him back, legally.

      It’s like how every other fan base complains that Emelin won’t fight(because he can’t health-wise). Why should he have to fight if the hit is clean?

      • Just A Guy says:

        in reference to the Malone hit, I think Malone thinks he’s made some sort of goon aristocracy or something. He makes a dirty and illegal hit with no call on the play on Emelin in behind his net. So Emelin goes and lays him out with a clean though illegal hit and gets called for it. Malone then uses that as an excuse to go after him again. But I think the NHL can use Emelin’s situation as a springboard for why you can lay a good hit and not have it turn into a debacle afterwards. Take his number and try and one up him fercrissakes, I’m sure he would say the same thing.

        and yes, look up Emelin’s “fight” with Svitov in the KHL. He has a plate in his orbital bone because of it and it holds the shattered bone in place now, if he breaks it again he might do some severe damage to his eye.

    • Bill says:

      I think players have to accept that a clean hit is a fair play. It’s stupid to go after guys for hitting cleanly … why don’t they start attacking players for scoring goals too??

      Full Breezer 4 Life

  35. joedacrabb33 says:

    Apparently Gauthier came pretty close to dumping Gomez to the isles at the trade deadline? Is this true? just wondering, if he did, he would have gone from the laughing stock of the NHL to a hero…

  36. LA Loyalist says:

    A general observation for the commentariat to chew on:

    This year I’ve been to about 10 Kings and Ducks games with good seats, and I’ll tell you there is NO freaking room out there on the ice.

    The players are bigger than ever, they are faster than ever (the BIG players are faster than ever), and they are better coached than ever (not Habs, but that’s another story).

    My point is that the players for our future need to be mentally smart and quick, physically tough and durable, and faster than ever. Special teams are going to be ever more important because that’s the only time you get any empty ice.

    Our next GM (g*d help him) needs to have the vision to conceptualize the game 3-5 years out, and build accordingly.

    Yeah we should have gone to Olympic ice 20 years ago, but unfortunately, my time machine is broken (got it at Canadian Tire, what does THAT tell you).

    P.S. see “Goon” – go early, go often.

    • nickster13 says:

      I really really want olympic size ice. It would do wonders for the game. And I still remember how amazing 2002 olympics hockey were.

      “I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”

      • LA Loyalist says:

        No one will give up 5 or 10 rows of seats to do it. The window was when the ACC Center and the Bell Center were built.

        We should have at least done it in Canada, but no vision, no leadership.

        One would hope Jeff Molson will become some kind of leader in the hockey community and bring something for the future.

        Or maybe he’ll just sell beer. I don’t know the guy. I guess all we can do is hope.

        • nickster13 says:

          It’s never too late… Plus when its for the greater good of the game, in terms of playmaking ability and player safety, it will pay in spades later on. Plus then the whole world would play on the same size sheet, so it would be more fair and global! Costs money but the benefit is also high.

          “I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”

      • Malreg says:

        Watch a dozen or so games from the European leagues, who play on olympic size ice for the most part, and let me know if the game is any better.

        It actually makes it much more boring. Everybody just clogs up the middle since there’s too much ice to cover, and all of the play is on the outside. It’s trap trap tap.

        The highest scoring team in the Swedish Elite League averaged 2.74 goals a game. The leading scorers routinely are just above a point-per-game.

        The average goals scored in the KHL this season is 2.76. The whole larger ice surface = more offense is a myth.

  37. KLear says:

    Many here wish to blame PG and BG for what has transpired. But look carefully at what the NHL promised coming off the lock-out. Bettman and Co. promised a league focused on speed and skill, with clutching/grabbing/goonery to be eliminated. Showcase the talent they said. And so we built a team, as Gainey commented, around the perceived future of the league. And then along came Anaheim who physically, but legally, pounded Ottawa into submission.

    And then along comes Jeremy Jacobs, who recognizes he can’t win with speed and skill. But intimidation? Well that he could muster. And so the Bruins punch, cheapshot, and fight their way to a Cup. The league ? It turns a blind eye as the most influential owner tells them its okay. And so the thought of speed and skill being the hallmark of the NHL disappears. And the Habs were caught in the worst position. A small skilled team that should have been the poster child of the new era is poorly positioned. I don’t blame PG or BG – I blame the NHL for allowing Jacobs to derail the league. And so we roll the team over to a more physical style of play. We move forward.

    But we were not the only ones caught off guard. The Canucks thought they could use skill to win – that retaliation and after-the-whistle cheapshots would be punished. Not so, as witnessed by a 4th line bit player punching an MVP with officials looking on. And so now we have the Leafs with Rosehill, and the Rangers with Jon Scott, and the habs with Staubitz, and on and on.

    The only solace I take in this affair is that the Bruins thought they were the toughest show in town when the opposition didn’t fight back. What they didn’t recognize is people didn’t fight back because of the fear of penalties and league punishment. And now that teams have figured it out, they have reloaded. And the bruins now have to fight willing combatants who play as dirty as they do. And they will have to do it every night. No one cares if Thornton has stitches – he will have to go with Rosehill because Carlyle says so, because the Leafs have figured it out. And then it will be Janssen, and then Reaves, and then Scott, and then Konopka,…..

    The Bruins, and the NHL, have created a monster they can no longer contain.

    • nickster13 says:

      Problem is all the guys making the rules or in management played the game at a time where all that was acceptable. So it was silly to expect short term drastic change. Look again in 15 years and you will see European-trained coaches and a more skill game!

      “I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      That is a very accurate comment and I couldn’t agree more.

    • montreal ace says:

      Your right I blame the NHL too, I am getting some satisfaction that teams have reloaded, and the goons are getting some of what they gave out. I am glad you brought this aspect of the NHL into focus again, I sometimes forget about the changes they wanted.

    • caladin says:

      Very well said. The problem is that the game is now in flux, with the rules as enforced on the ice changing year by year. Is size going to dominate over speed 5 years from now?
      What the NHL so desperately needs now is some integrity. Dryden for commish!


      Keep Hope Alive

    • ABHabsfan says:

      Really good post. I agree with what you’re saying. You can’t fault BG for not having a plan, he did. And it was a progressive plan that should have worked if what the NHL said would be the new style was actually executed. Only trouble was that there was no back-up plan, no escape-clause. Long term contracts for guys that could not move around as freely as thought, when the plan didn’t pan out there was no flexibility.
      The Bruins have gone the other way and clearly it worked last year. However they still have trouble with speedy teams. Teams that try to out-muscle the Bruins get whupped, but they have had their difficulties with the faster teams. Carolina for example

      “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
      Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

    • DT says:

      I’m sorry, but I do blame Gainey. How many players did he give away or let walk and get nothing in return? How many of them were considered small and skilled? Kiovu, Ribeiro, SK, Grabs… to name a few. Then there’s Kovy, Ryder and Tanguay, not as small but certainly skilled and they all walked with nothing in return. Add a few defencemen to the list, like Streit and Souray and you get the picture.

      If giving away players for nothing wasn’t bad enough, how do you explain the logic of hiring a bunch of UFAs, all small, speedy and skillful and then hiring JM, a coach known for his defensive style of hockey? It didn’t make any sense to me then and it doesn’t make any sense now.

      As for the rock’em sock’em style of hockey that’s emerged, well, it’s always been around with the likes of teams like Boston and Philly. The tough guys need skilled players and skilled guys need the tough ones. Gainey’s mistake was signing too many skilled smurfs all at once and when he realized it, along came Laraque — but injured and not so tough anymore.

      Gainey is a nice person, was a great player and ambassador for the sport. He may even be considered a good coach but he’s not anywhere close, in my books, of being forgiven for the mess he made as general manager of les glorieux.

      • JF says:

        Agreed. Gainey’s free-agent spending spree in the summer of 2009 is proving to have been a gigantic blunder. When you add to it all the players he’s let walk for nothing and all the draft picks he’s pissed away, it’s hard to forgive him. Just looking at our three Belorussian players – the Kostitsyn brothers and Mikhail Grabovski – they total between 60 and 70 goals a season. All we now have to show for those three players is Greg Pateryn and one second round draft pick. Throw in Michael Ryder, Ribeiro, and Koivu, for whom the return was nothing, and there’s another 80 or so goals. Meanwhile, most of the guys we have can’t score to save their lives. Gainey bears the chief responsibility for the trainwreck the team has become; Gauthier has actually made more good moves than bad, but hurt the team by the moves he didn’t make over the summer (not replacing Hamrlik, not signing a big, physical fourth-line centre). They’ve both done enough damage that they should lose their jobs, but there are no signs yet of that happening.

  38. blu_blanc_rouge says:

    Anyone on this site that supports Gauthier to remain as GM should follow a team like Columbus, Carolina etc where losing is accepted. Where there is no history or tradition.
    Any company, organization, political party or sports club would change their leaders when they fail.

  39. L Elle says:

    Bourque, AK, among others.

    Most of us have no choice but to get up every morning and go to work.

    I know I’m underpaid and overworked…thank God I love my job.

    No matter the salary, I give it all I’ve got every day. For years my boss would tell me I could do more, and I would. Most recently, he says I do too much????

    What the hell is wrong with these guys who have sooooo much talent, but can’t bring it every night, like Cole?

    What a waste. A guy like bourque, not only is he denying himself, but his teammates, who need him to win games.

    Whoever the next coach is, I hope he is an a$$ kicker.

    • HabFab says:

      LL superstarrrrr!

    • nickster13 says:

      Can i ask what your job is?

      “I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”

      • L Elle says:

        Why you’ve got a better offer? 🙂

        project accountant

        • nickster13 says:

          haha, no. Im just curious because im 23, working in Korea, and wondering why some guy said he loves his job, as im looking for a new one in a year!

          “I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”

          • HabFab says:

            My eldest son and his “wife” did 3 years there and 2 years in Argentina.

          • L Elle says:

            The great thing about my job is I work on different projects with different teams for short periods of time. I get to travel sometimes for months working in different environments. No boring 9 to 5 in front of a computer for me.

            But some of my colleagues hate it, so there you go.

          • nickster13 says:

            9-5 sucks!

            “I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”

          • LA Loyalist says:

            Take it easy on the soju, dude. 🙂

          • nickster13 says:

            You mean that paint thinner tasting stuff? I prefer the plum wine 🙂

            “I don’t wanna see Maurice tonight, I want the rocket!”

        • kholdstare says:

          You project accountant too much?

          You sir are a hero, crunching more numbers than neccesary. Broke the mould when he made you.

          • L Elle says:

            As I said, I’m not a great writer. If I sounded snotty, I apologize. Geez

          • kholdstare says:

            Jokes. Its jsut you had me going there thinking you were like the most interesting man alive, working a double shift of awesomeness and then you bust out project accountant.

          • HabFab says:

            Well, she isn’t the most “interesting man” alive, however

          • L Elle says:

            Hey it’s more glamorous than you think. How often do you get to fly on a 6-seater airplane in a windstorm, being the only female? LOL

          • kholdstare says:

            Sorry about the gender mishap not being sexist or anything, you still cant project accountant too much.

    • Stuck_in_To. says:

      I grew up working for my father. He put me to work at the age of 8 loading cars at a garden centre, unpaid. Most of the items I handled were bigger than I was or heavier. By the time I was a teenager, I was working 12 to 14 hour days. On one particular 18 hour day, the last job I did was to load 65 88lbs. pails into a truck by hand.

      I know to dog the puck relentlessly. I know to go to the net. But some games, I still find myself sliding into the empty spaces trying to anticipate the puck so I can take a short cut to glory.

      Mental discipline is a rare bitch.

  40. Timo says:

    An autograph from Cunnyworth – there is a moment to cherish for the rest of his life. 🙂

  41. dorvalhabsfan says:

    I think we put too much blame on a bad season on PG…
    At the beginning of the season we were contenders, with our fears lying in our unproven defence..while everyone here blames Gainey or Gauthier for taking us off the skids, i remember being godawful while Savard was our GM.. I remember everyone was excited with all the acquisistions..

    You cant blame management for a horrendous downturn in one persons..this was as predictable as Zetterberg turning into an all star.. his acquisition brought in many respectable players.. gionta cammalieri… at that time we also acquired Hall Gill…

    Hindsight is a beautiful and to say I knew better and hated the trade from day is in most cases a lie…

    We can look at other moves…

    People are now saying firing JM was classless and desperate… but 95% of the posters here could not stand JM as head coach and all of you called for his dismissal… now I’m not for or against it personally it was a matter of time he got fired. but to turn around and bash that move because it didn’t work out is lunacy. I worry more over how he was tagged interim and ot so little defence from his boss…

    The Cammi trade was also a matter of neccesity.. to be one of the “leaders” on the team and one of the highest earners on the team to go out and throw not only your team but coaching staff under the train by saying “we practice like losers” is unacceptable.. you need to show your team that some things are not acceptable.. this wasa statement meant for in the locker room or an office and not for the media… we picked up a big guy who can hit and play gritty… we traded him away for a small skilled speedy forward… both of them were coasting on their previous team so what were you expecting?

    the small moves (moores nokelainens) these are detrimental… moore would not have gotten us in the playoffs…

    Wiz is god awful this season and i dont think he would have helped us out much more then markov… i would rather show loyalty anyways so we can expect the same from our players…

    the team is not as bad as our record shows… we have a good young core, we’re moving in a more physical and larger sized direction and we have a high draft pick, an all star goalie, 30 goal scoring PF and a futre all star D.. everyone wants moves to be done NOW, but who are we to say firing Gauthier will make our t eam better? who will be the new GM? I dont see why we should alter the direction the team is making and i dont think we should panic by changing everyone around.. new coach new gm doesnt solve everything …

    With that being said i think Gauthier has one more summer to turn it around as he has not had ALOT of time to make this team.. he was hired less then 2 years ago giving him bassically 1 1/2 seasons WE need to be patient and see where it takes us

    Lets be construtive and not waste 50% of the day pointing fingers.. the players didnt perform.. Gauthier did (in the off season acquired Cole and Emelin) and during the season (signing #26, trying to help the PP by acquiring Kaberle..which was made with the right intention and didnt have to give up toooo much)

    Lets give credit where credit is due

    Go Habs Go

    • Mustang says:

      While I cannot disagree with much that you have said, I get the feeling that our GM does not have a master plan. If he does, he keeps it well hidden. I may be very wrong but he seems to make it up as he goes along. However, firing Gauthier is of little use if a better GM cannot be hired. If Gauthier does stay on, I sure hope that he has learned his lesson and doesn’t sign any more older players with big long term contracts.

      • LA Loyalist says:

        Yeah Dorval, what’s the master plan? Who are we? The Flying Frenchmen?

        The next coming of the New Jersey Devils? 1970’s Phlyers? Who?

        It’s fine to defend PG, go crazy, but make a clear case.

        • dorvalhabsfan says:

          what? quite clear, maybe you should read it… your response is confusing and has nothing to do with what i wrote

          Go Habs Go

          • LA Loyalist says:

            You said we shouldn’t alter the direction the team is taking.

            What direction? Really, we’d love to know, because the current direction reminds me of the Titanic after it hit the iceberg.

    • zorro says:

      This team has gone from Conference finalists, to last place in the conference in 3 seasons. How has management improved this team? Don’t team managers make deals to improve their team? Someone has to be held accountable.

    • jmsheehy19 says:

      + infinity, and beyond.

  42. alwayssunny says:

    Now that our hopes are just about dashed for this season, all there is to do is look at the positives going in to next season.

    I think us Habs’ fans underestimate the loss of Markov. We hardly ever even mention it. There is a chance he will come back and be the same player he once was. I, along with many of the writers here, feel his presence on the blue line alone makes us a legitimate Stanley Cup contender. It certainly gives us one less excuse.

    We have a decent, if shaky, goalie in Carey Price. He is closing in on 300 games so I think we have a pretty good idea of what the future holds there. We are going to have an ok goalie for many years to come so no worries at that position.

    Our young superstar defenceman, P.K. Subban. Sure he took a huge step backward this year but he improved in other areas. He has already perfected the slew foot and the turtle at this early point in his career. He has also become a real pest on the practice rink with 6 scraps this season. That is the sort of player everyone wants on their side. I don’t think we have had a clearer candidate for future Captain since Chris Higgins.

    We have prospects, just like every other team and every other year. I know ours are always better so hopefully we might see some of them as regulars in the NHL some day, just as highly touted Yanic Weber is. It’s early but our number one pick, Louis Leblanc, looks like he might have a chance to be a decent 3rd liner. Rafael Diaz has a year under his belt. Our two best NHL-ready AHLers, Engqvist and Palushaj, got some good experience this year that they will grow on next year. You can’t just let fruits like them rot on the vine. Look for them to get a lot of ice as there is noone else ready.

    We have an owner who is so committed to winning that we know he will settle for nothing less than the best francophone coach available.

    And lastly we have two shrewd hockey executives performing the GM duties, Bob and Pierre. Our roster is stable, they saw to that. There isn’t a lot of room for movement. Other GMs in the league don’t see the beauty in Gomez and Bourque and Kaberle, to name just a few, that Bob and Pierre see. There might be a couple of free agent signings but I don’t foresee anything major. Essentially we will have the same team and I for one can’t wait.

    • jhab93 says:

      talk about looking on the brightside of things…

      Thats the way the cookie crumbles

    • HardHabits says:

      Hope you have patience. Because this team will be out of the play-offs next season, with or without Markov, and if lucky enough will be in the draft lottery again.

      Look at Anaheim. They missed the play-offs every year for the 3 years PG was GM there. Once they dumped him they won the Cup.

  43. eric says:

    Alex Galchenyuk complete scouting report on: and he won’t jump to the KHL

    • Yeowch! Imagine if that tall tale comes true next year. I think I’ll burn my Habs cap and shirt! What must you be drinking at this fine hour of the day?

      Promote the Youth, Support From The Veterans and Remember the Heritage!

    • jedimyrmidon says:

      Wow, that’s a pretty glowing report on his abilities. Hopefully Timmins is keeping an eye out on him. Work ethic + elite talent? Sounds good to me.

  44. habstrinifan says:

    Heard on TSN990 that PG is very likely going to return! If there is a GOD in Heaven please let this NEVER happen.

    PG should be taken to the outskirts of the city and told never to return!

  45. habstrinifan says:

    OK Everyone dont look now but something tells me AK46 is gonna put a hurting on our APRIL/MAY/ETC.

    Just saying!

  46. habitunts1 says:

    What team will pick up PK’s brother Malcolm in the draft. I’m seeing the Islanders may want to grab him. I would love to see them both on the Habs


  47. Clay says:

    That 4 game winning streak last month is coming back to haunt us. 8 points less and we would be seriously competing for first overall 😀

    ☞ If I agreed with you we’d both be wrong. ☜

  48. eric says:

    google: 2012 nhl draft prospects….. for a run down on the top 60 prospects

  49. Bripro says:

    That little guy standing there throws me back 10 years ago.
    Sometime in early 2002, we were invited to a Canadiens’ family day practice on the ice with some of the players. While we were there, we met a young man who was intellectually handicapped, but sharp as a razor. He was also responsible for corralling the physically disabled who were in wheel chairs into the Bell centre and onto the platform where all wheel chair travellers are “seated” for the game.
    He and my son Mat got to talking, mostly about Koivu, who was still out, recovering from cancer. He told me boy, while looking up at me making certain that I had heard, that if he presented himself to the ticket office on monday morning and asked for a specific individual, tickets would be waiting for him to enter, and go watch them practice.
    I feel guilty in saying this, but I was somewhat skeptical because, for one thing, I didn’t know at the time that he was the individual responsible for the handicapped.
    On top of it all, by the way he was dressed, with his torn winter coat which hadn’t been washed in a long time, it just seemed a little far fetched.
    But my 8-year old was hooked. “C’mon dad! Why would he make that up?….Look he’s here in the Bell centre on family day. That’s gotta mean something!” The kid had a point.
    So, on the monday morning, I rescheduled my calls and I took him to the Bell Centre, paid for parking and strolled up to the ticket office.
    Sure enough, upon announcing his name, the guard presented Mat and I with two stickers to put on our lapels and asked “Is there anyone else with you?” I could have brought the son of my host from the day before and I never even thought of it.
    So in we went and were guided to the area where the zamboni entered.
    The players were already on the ice and down by the player bench stood Saku Koivu.
    Mat, not wanting to impose but subtly be noticed, meandered up a couple of rows and walked 10-12 fee in that direction.
    Then he’d stop, turn around and look at myself and the security guard who was with me, both of us standing with sheepish grins on our faces.
    “Go on…” I motioned, and slowly, he made his way over to the player bench. As he got close, Saku still with his back turned, disappeared into the players’ hallway. Mat stood by the hallway, in the second row, and some of the players started to come off, signing his Habs jersey.
    Zednick, Juneau, Brisebois, Quintal, Souray, the list went on.
    A few players stayed on, and Jeff Hackett was sitting on the bench.
    The trainer asked him something and motioned to my Mat. He reluctantly agreed to sign his jersey, so the trainer picked him up and sat him on the players bench while the other players signed his jersey as they exited.
    Mat stood up and was about to be hoisted back into the stands when (I heard it from the corner) someone yelled “Ho! Wait! Hold on a second!” Koivu came out of the hallway and motioned for Mat to sit down on the bench. Koivu sat next to him and they talked for 20 minutes. He signed his jersey, hoisted him back up, and as Mat ran back to me with a HUGE smile on his face, Saku looked in my direction and sent me a wave.
    It’s a day I’ll never forget, and I caught the whole thing on tape.
    The day they chose not to re-sign Saku, Mat became a Bruins’ fan.

    • New says:

      Yeah it’s pretty easy to sit in the weeds and snipe at these guys. Then you see what they do for fans and in the communities. Hockey players are the 2nd best folks in the world. People who make time for friends and family are number one.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      Thanks for telling us that, wonderful! Except the part where Mat becomes a Bruin fan 🙂 .

    • Mike D says:

      That’s a wonderful story Bripro – thank you for sharing! Very kind and classy guy that Saku. The team should have re-signed him and he should have retired as a Hab.

      Too bad about your boy being a Bruins fan now though. Hopefully you can bring him back over from the dark side.

      – Honestly yours
      Twitter: @de_benny

      • Bripro says:

        I’m not sure how much of a Dark Side fan he really is, because these days, he’s pretty disgusted with our team. But he still wears those god-awful hoodies and caps, with that ugly B logo.
        If that’s the most grief he gives me now, I’m good to go.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      Great story Bripro, almost brings a tear to my eye!

    • Perfect story, about time something
      worth reading popped up!!


      They Call Me Shane
      “They never asked to be Canadiens, they were Chosen.”
      Shane Oliver
      Twitter @Sholi2000
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    • JohnBellyful says:

      Loved the story. Very genuine. Stirs the emotions, which hasn’t happened often on the ice for fans this season. This kind of tale helps supporters keep the faith.

    • L Elle says:

      Great great story. How impressionable we are as kids.

      I remember meeting Ken Dryden as a kid. I had to bend my neck all the way back to see his face. He gave me his stick. I had it for years, but damn, don’t know what happened to it.

      Maybe my mother threw it out, along with my rookie cards of him and Lafleur. ;(

    • shiram says:

      Thank you for sharing that!

    • kempie says:

      Wow. Cool. Goosebumpy.

    • LA Loyalist says:

      Thank you for that. My son met Koivu on the Ducks when he (my son) was 7. His room has the signed Jerseys, “Montreal” stick, etc..

      My son is 9 now, plays center and wears #11 like Saku, back checks, plays special teams and leads his team in scoring. He protects the smaller players and encourages everyone.

      There’s a lot of bagging on Koivu on this site because he wasn’t Beliveau, but in the end hockey is a team game and no one guy can do everything. Look at Kovalchuk, Ovechkin, Iginla – none of them are going to win the Cup this year.

      Koivu gave Habs character and pride, win or lose. And an MRI machine, and a tremendous example of courage coming back from a cut eyeball and cancer.

      Thank you for your story, sorry your son went over to the dark side, but I can’t blame him. What a great memory he has 🙂

  50. habsfan0 says:

    With yesterday’s loss and Edmonton’s SO victory, Oilers are now only 2 points behind the Habs in the race(?) for best overall lottery pick. Tomorrow’s Habs-Oilers 4 pointer promises to be a nail biter.

    This is actually getting exciting.

    However, a new entry into the race for last overall appears to have emerged.

    With the loss of Jeffrey Lupul for 3 weeks, the Laffs are really up against it now.

    Hopefully, the Habs will do everything to prevent the Laffs from overtaking them in the standings to secure the overall #1 pick in the draft.

    Columbus, we’re coming for you!

    • Sean Bonjovi says:

      Drafting right after Brian Burke is exactly like drafting right before Brian Burke.

      “Patch the holes, ride it out, Play for 2015”
      – Sean Bonjovi

    • jon514 says:

      Maybe we can trade our top 5 pick to toronto for their 1st round picks this year and next year. They’re gonna be in the basement again next year and maybe we Can steal Nathan MacKinnon from under them?

      “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

    • LA Loyalist says:

      I’m not superstitious, but Lupul apparently had a bad relationship with Carlyle on Ducks. Carlyle shows up and Lupul goes boom. Was he distracted worrying about Carlyle?

      Don’t know, but it’s a weird coincidence.

  51. secretdragonfly says:

    OK, that kid is damn cute – did anyone get more than a 14 second clip, for crying out loud?

    • Chuck says:

      He wasn’t waiting just for a Randy Cunneyworth autograph, was he? 🙂

      Being a Hab fan is like buying real estate: only over the long-haul will you appreciate the true value of your investment.

  52. Dennis says:

    For a second there I thought that kid was Brian Gionta.

  53. chilli says:

    I did not know that Pleks has the 4th worst minus in the entire league. I just wasn’t looking at that stat… and here I was defending him all year by saying “but he’s great defensively”.

    4 players have a worse minus. That sucks!


    • ABHabsfan says:

      Never would have guessed that would be the case

    • Mike D says:

      Pleks is still good defensively regardless of what his plus/minus is. He’s one of our key PK guys and we have the best PK in the league.

      I will say that Pleks isn’t having his best season though.

      – Honestly yours
      Twitter: @de_benny

    • New says:

      That’s the funny things about stats. They show things you don’t notice. Then you add in the stupid penalties. Then you see it all = frustration. The question is the frustration over the on ice situation or contract.

  54. Hobie Hansen says:

    So if we draft Forsberg he’d be too young to play in the AHL correct?

    He’d have to play another full year of junior or stick with the Habs, which is highly unlikely.

    I have no issue with that but the people hoping our early first rounder will jump in right away and make a difference could be a little bummed.


    • ABHabsfan says:

      I am not sure about that rule myself, however Patch played in Hamilton at 19 so I think if a guy wants to be a pro instead of going back to jr, that is his choice. The Club can strongly suggest where they would like a prospect to play as well if not on the parent club. If sent to Ham, he would need to be signed to a contract. Though I don’t know where Forsberg plays right now, is he already a pro?
      Conversely, Beaulieu cannot be returned to jr if he is cut from the Habs even though he will be only 19 as he has played for 4 years already and that is the max in the CHL so he will be in Ham if not on the Habs.

      “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
      Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

      “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
      Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

      • HabFab says:

        Patches came from the NCAA so could, also an European player coming over like Avstin and AK46 can play in the AHL. A player from the CHL (Juniors) cannot play in the AHL until he is turning 20.

        • ABHabsfan says:

          Thanks for clarifying all that. You learn something new everyday!

          “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
          Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

      • rnnoble says:

        It’s not their choice up to an extent. If they play in the CHL, they have to stay in the CHL for 4 years, or until they’re 20. Pacioretty played American University, so he could graduate to pro earlier than, for example, Beaulieu. So if the Habs draft Forsberg, he can go directly to the AHL. But if they draft Grigorenko or Yakupov, they have to go back to the LHJMQ or OHL if they don’t stick in the NHL.

      • Mike D says:

        Max-Pac came from US College hockey though. That’s why he was allowed to play in the AHL as a 19 year old.

        I’m not sure what the rule is for players who play overseas.

        *Nevermind – I see Frank (HabFab) beat me to the punch and clarified everything.

        – Honestly yours
        Twitter: @de_benny

  55. Say Ash says:

    Guess what a goal differential six worse the Habs gets you? Third place.

    • Strummer says:

      Our goal differential up until last month was around -7 at one point.
      A couple of bounces or timely goals and we “coulda bin a contenda”

      “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  56. PeterD says:

    Leblanc sent down…Meh…no big deal. This guy has been invisible and sorry to say this but he is not the great Franco hope that many think he is, neither is Geofrion by the way.
    Both players have some skills but right now no higher than 3rd line potential on this current version of a very sad team.
    They both need another full season in Hamilton with out the pressures of the expectation that they will be the Habs saviours.
    Maybe then they will develop into second line potential.

  57. jon514 says:

    The defensive pairing of Camp Kab does not make anyone feel like singing show tunes… Why not call up Alex Henry to have an, I don’t know DEFENSEman playing D?

    “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

    • bellcentre hotdog says:

      Maybe someone could explain this to me, but I could never understand why Henry never got a chance with the Habs.

      He’s a big, mean, stay at home defenceman. He’s also a leader and wears the C in Hamilton.

      • HabFab says:

        Not fast enough.

      • alwayssunny says:

        “Maybe someone could explain this to me, but I could never understand why Henry never got a chance with the Habs.

        He’s a big, mean, stay at home defenceman. He’s also a leader and wears the C in Hamilton.”

        You just answered your own question. These are not the attributes that Pierre and Bob look for in players

    • ont fan says:

      We like everyting just the way it is. A big 4 pointer coming up with Edmonton.

    • Strummer says:

      That’s what Kaberle needs as defensive partner- a big -hard-hitting -stay -at -home-type.
      The anti-Campoli
      “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  58. Timo says:

    According to tweets Leblanc and that swede guy are sent to Hamilton.

  59. bellcentre hotdog says:

    I had an opportunity today to talk with Shane Malloy about the upcoming draft and Habs prospects.

    Malloy is a scout himself. He is a broadcaster. And he has a book called The Art of Scouting. He knows more about prospects than I do.

    And for what it’s worth … here’s his take:

    Yakupov the definite number 1.
    Murray (Everett Dman) number 2 and NHL ready.
    Grigorenko a solid player … but despite his size and immense talent, has questionalble drive and will. Grigorenko could be a roll of the dice.

    Gallagher and Beaulieu will need at least a year in the AHL. Tinordi may be NHL ready. He likes Leblanc a lot.

    • HabinBurlington says:

      So all this talk of Grigorenko and his attitude, is this all on the player or does any of the blame fall on his current junior coach whom many are calling to be the Habs next coach.

    • Hobie Hansen says:

      There ya go! Great post with a link to a valid and reliable source.

      I’ve been saying all year that there’s a good shot of Tinordi sticking with the Habs next year.

      He is so big that you don’t have to worry about him getting injured and he’s probably better than Campoli, Weber and Diaz by this point already. Better than Kaberle defensively for sure.

    • deuce6 says:

      Galchenyuk is better than Grigorenko, IMO..


      Yes, I’m a Hab fan..Wanna fight about it?

    • Ehabs9 says:

      Everywhere I’ve read Murray is slotted in at #3, with Grigorenko or Forsberg in the 2 spot. Edmonton is the obvious destination for Murray, so I think it should be a pretty clear cut choice of Forsberg for Montreal.

  60. shiram says:

    Engqvist and Leblanc back to the Bulldogs.

  61. CalgaryHab says:

    Every year I attend the game when the habs come to town and as usual it was disgusting.
    But more than other years this team is awful. PG and BG should be held on treason charges for what this team is. I watch a lot of Calgary games and the Flames are not good team but look fantastic against us. I’m a Price suppporter and he does see a lot of rubber and quality scoring chances but something needs to be done about his puck handling. He has had more pucks end up in his net because of his antics than most goalies have had in their entire careers.
    That said, we do have some exciting pieces and with some re-tooling and a quality draft we will be much better(it can’t get worse when you’re in last)
    PG cannot be here for this! Dismiss him now so he can’t mettle with any draft decisions, stupid signings or anything that affects the habs – including menu items at a restaruant for a team lunch.

    It takes a smart man to know when he’s stupid – Barney Rubble

    • boing007 says:

      Occasionally Price handles the puck very well, reminding me of Brodeur. Other times there seems to be a lot of miscommunication with his D. Maybe they should spend some more time getting him and his D in synch, to take full advantage of his skills.

      Richard R

  62. HabinBurlington says:

    It doesn’t appear that the Leaf players were designed for the Re-Truculation which Carlyle and Burke want.

    • sprague cleghorn says:

      Perhaps they never “ma-truculated” from high school.


    • Bill says:

      Burke is always saying he wants a rought team, and gave the infamous “Testosterone, belligerence, truculence, and pugnacity” sound-bite … but he picks up players like Kessel and Lupul and Connolly and Gardiner, signs Grabovski … these guys are all cupcakes.

      So he says one thing, does another … has a soft, skilled team and hires Conan the Coacharian. What’s his plan?

      Full Breezer 4 Life

      • HabinBurlington says:

        It will be an interesting summer in the GTA, I look for Burke to make some trades. Carlyle is going to walk in his Burkes office after the season and say I need some grit. Colborne and Kadri won’t bring anything different to the table either. You are bang on Bill.

    • Strummer says:

      Did Brown break is hand the other night on Staubitz’ noggin?

      Armstrong leads with his nose and Seidenberg uses it as a speed-bag.

      Way to take one for the Burkie boys!

      “It’s just an opinion – I could be wrong”

  63. C-Sword says:

    Season is crap, but I’d be happy enough if Max Pac scores his 30th and Eller his 20th.

  64. duffy says:

    Numerous comments last night put all the blame on the D for Prices poor play at times. My question is, exactly what D are responsible for the seven shootout loss”S Seven extra points would put them in a lot better position at this point.

    • shiram says:

      If the D had scored before the shootouts, then the shootouts would not have happened.
      Hence, blame the D.

    • Psycho29 says:

      Maybe if the Habs’ players could hit the net in the shootout (instead of 9/40 or whatever they’re at) it doesn’t come down to Price having to stop everything. Has he been good in shootouts? Not always. But he’s not the reason entirely for the shootout losses. Our shooters go 0 for 3 and the opposition goes 1/3, and its a loss.

      BTW…You might want to check the spelling of your “All Time Fav Player”…
      Beliveau has only one “L”

    • JoeC says:

      Your right, its all Prices fault that montreals skaters cant score in hte shootout later

      Im so sick of this stupid, uneducated bashing of players when the person doenst know jack shit about the team other then there pure hatred of a player.

      Duffy, watch a hockey game for once, and if you want, i can help you with the basics of this sport. Or if you “think” you know what you are talkign about, find another sport.

    • Marcusman says:

      The d- that didn;t score in the shoot. Our forwards were to blame for the shoot out losses. our top 3 guys should never go 0-3 on breakaways…never

  65. habsnyc says:

    Lupul back in four weeks. The IIHF Worlds are in eight weeks. I wonder if Price will play, considering he does not have a contract for 2012-13. The Canadian team could feature several Oympic team members and hopefuls at forward. Stamkos, Eberle, Nugent Hopkins, Skinner, Tavares, Pommenville and Hall could join Iginla, Heatley, Getzlaf, Perry, Cole and Nash. This year, with a new format, the preliminary round is seven games per team.

    Canada is very shallow in nets. If Price does not play, the next available choices might be Curtis Sanford, Mathieu Garon and Cam Ward.

    Blue, blanc et rouge. Red and White for Canada. Blue for Smurfs.

    • Mike D says:

      I think every Hab player that’s healthy and good enough to be selected by their respective countries should play at the tournament. It will remind a lot of them what meaningful hockey feels like and hopefully leave them with that appetite to bring into next season.

      Price and Subban for Canada (JG and DD likely wouldn’t make it)
      Cole, Max-Pac and Gio (if healthy) for USA
      Marky and Emelin for Russia
      Pleks and Kabs for Czech Rep.
      Diaz and Weber for the Swiss
      Eller for Denmark

      Get out there boys!

      – Honestly yours
      Twitter: @de_benny

      • ABHabsfan says:

        I think JG will be selected. Eller is a shoe-in! Is denmark in this tourney?
        It would be great if DD goes, if even for the 1st couple games, imagine DD with Eberle? Likely not enough spots though for DD

        “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
        Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

    • Willy says:

      I think you meant Staal and not Cole but anyways. Gotta believe Price is going to play and Cam Ward will be the other goalie. Maybe Reimer(not bloody likely) gets the other spot again.

  66. chilli says:

    This may have been posted already. Anything sound familiar: From when the Goat got fired from the Ducks.


    • Cardiac says:

      “He was not part of the community in any noticeable way. He was anonymous. He tended to make statements that weren’t true, in the sense that soon after he’d said something wouldn’t happen, it happened.

      For instance, Gauthier said he wouldn’t think about firing his coach. Then a month later, Craig Hartsburg was fired.”

      My head hurts…

      “There’s genius everywhere, but until they turn pro, it’s like popcorn in the pan. Some pop… some don’t.”
      – Jerry Maguire

      • jmsheehy19 says:

        I don’t know why GM’s get flack for keeping their cards close to the vest.

        Whether they are considering firing a guy or not, their answer to that question absolutely should be “No.” Unless they’ve already 100% decided to do so and are firing them the next day, in which case they shouldn’t address the media at all until it’s over.

        If they say something like, “well we’re 70% behind our guy,” all they’d be doing is creating extra distractions among the team, as well as alienating their coach and crippling any possible future relationship.

  67. Mike D says:

    I actually wish Lupul didn’t get hurt because all that will do is give laff fans an excuse for why their team didn’t make the playoffs.

    – Honestly yours
    Twitter: @de_benny

  68. Ozmodiar says:

    Leaf fans are falling off the bandwagon and landing on the tank wagon.

    • ABHabsfan says:

      Listening to TSN 1050 (TO) today and the host Hayes, I think, was wondering if they can tank low enough to “catch” the Habs. Leafs always set goals they can never realize.

      “man, I love winnin’; you know, it’s like better than losin’?”-
      Ebby Calvin “Nuke” Laloosh

    • otter649 says:

      Leafs are burning their callups from the AHL and if they get anymore injuries they may have to play shorthanded in a few games……

  69. jon514 says:

    We wanna know about Markov please. When will he play and for the love of everything holy take Campoli out of the lineup.

    “Let’s be clear on the facts…”

  70. habs17 says:

    Well Peyton Manning is a free agent, P.G should give him a call

    I SUPPORT (every1 knows who i support)

  71. HNS says:

    Practice???? This team needs to be having a Seance to see why the spirits assassinated their season!!!!

  72. Maksimir says:

    Well that pretty much ends the Leaf’s playoff hopes. It will be nice watching that last game where the only thing at stake is a better draft pick for the loser.

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